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[KBY]

Game wasn't shown in Canada so I didn't see it. Did anyone here catch it?

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[Thinking Plague]

Like you say, who knows what there is after this leg of the journey.

If Christ is Lord, then He knows something about resurrection.   

[When questioned by the Sadducees (who say there is no resurrection)…]

Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. - Matthew 22:29

But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’?  God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” - Matthew 22:31-32

Actually Job, David (in the Psalms), Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Paul and others wrote quite a bit on the topic. 

They would all have to be wrong and Christ would have to be a liar or a lunatic (if there be no resurrection of the dead).

If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. - 1 Corinthians 15:19

[exmachina]

TP: The question is whether we are talking something that could better be called "resurrection" or "transition." There is a moment in time when sperm meets ova (amusingly dramatized in a Woody Allen movie) and when the heart stops. What's less clear to me is whether life and death are absolute states or aspects and extensions of a creative universe (what one might call "God"). We sleep, we wake, we dream, we die, but the universe goes on.

"Dust unto dust" refers to the physical manifestation of humanity. The capacity of humans to exist out of time, out of body and imagine infinity and immortality is a source of both joy and pain; fostering contradictions that religion and philosophy have struggled with at least since we have had language to mediate our thoughts.

In my book, "Notes in Passing," I posited five kinds of immortality: gods, vampires and other beings either real or imagined not governed by human limits; historical and artistic figures who live on in the memory of their accomplishments, even to the most modest and prosaic obituaries; heavens and hells according to various beliefs where life goes on in a different form; the long chain of DNA that connects our species to past our future through procreation; the composting of our bodies in burial or the addition to the atmosphere through cremation by which we are environmentally restructured.

These days, I'm opting more for a dialogic universe where God and humans play with the stuff of creation, exploring new iterations even unto the destruction of an ecology that will support life as we know it. I'm ambivalent as to whether being part of a creative universe is comforting or just is. I'd love to get my mother's perspective - or perhaps I am. Cheers.

[Aintitashaman]

TP: The question is whether we are talking something that could better be called "resurrection" or "transition." There is a moment in time when sperm meets ova (amusingly dramatized in a Woody Allen movie) and when the heart stops. What's less clear to me is whether life and death are absolute states or aspects and extensions of a creative universe (what one might call "God"). We sleep, we wake, we dream, we die, but the universe goes on.

"Dust unto dust" refers to the physical manifestation of humanity. The capacity of humans to exist out of time, out of body and imagine infinity and immortality is a source of both joy and pain; fostering contradictions that religion and philosophy have struggled with at least since we have had language to mediate our thoughts.

In my book, "Notes in Passing," I posited five kinds of immortality: gods, vampires and other beings either real or imagined not governed by human limits; historical and artistic figures who live on in the memory of their accomplishments, even to the most modest and prosaic obituaries; heavens and hells according to various beliefs where life goes on in a different form; the long chain of DNA that connects our species to past our future through procreation; the composting of our bodies in burial or the addition to the atmosphere through cremation by which we are environmentally restructured.

These days, I'm opting more for a dialogic universe where God and humans play with the stuff of creation, exploring new iterations even unto the destruction of an ecology that will support life as we know it. I'm ambivalent as to whether being part of a creative universe is comforting or just is. I'd love to get my mother's perspective - or perhaps I am. Cheers.

Woody Allen once wrote:



"It is impossible to view one's own death objectively and still carry a tune."

[godot]

Like you say, who knows what there is after this leg of the journey.

They would all have to be wrong and Christ would have to be a liar or a lunatic (if there be no resurrection of the dead).

If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. - 1 Corinthians 15:19

One has to have faith (belief) that Constantine and his minions did not alter the manuscripts they assembled.  Difficult for me to believe of any "ruler".

Quantum physics suggest that atoms (whatever they are) are never destroyed; they only reassemble.  So it is quite possible for one of the billions of atoms that went to make up Jesus is in each of us.

The mind and its imagination is the most powerful tool in my known universe (my belief), and is capable of believing anything. (The human capacity for self delusion is endless).

So, in the end, I can only state the obvious, "Nobody knows, it's a mystery".

I'm really enjoying the mystery in the latter stages of my life.

[The 100th Idiot]

Quantum physics suggest that atoms (whatever they are) are never destroyed; they only reassemble.  So it is quite possible for one of the billions of atoms that went to make up Jesus is in each of us.

Godot, LMGTFY. You're quite conservative. Let's assume the average human, and Jesus, weighs about 70 kg. Then a person consists of about 7*10^27 (or 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) atoms. Using standard estimates about the biomass of the planet, Jesus's share of the biomass today, assuming no permanent resurrection, would be about 1.75*10^-15 (or 0.000000000000000175). Also assuming the average human ingests about 2 kg of biomass a day, that means each of us ingests about 2.7*10^11 (or 270,000,000,000) atoms of Jesus each day. That's 270 billion atoms of Jesus entering our bodies each day (not counting fast days, as in Ramadan).

Thinking Plague (quite the nom de plume), those calculations don't include all the bread and wine that's been transubstantiated into the flesh and blood of Jesus and eaten by Catholics.

Chip Stern, we humans are all fucked up in part because we try to find patterns in randomness. What was a useful strategy (better safe than sorry) in the savannah makes us idiots in Savannah today. And no, as we approach the Tower bombings, there were no WMDs to find (a reminder of the reaching you did on this site's parent).

To the rest, the Russian kid looks much faster than Magic Lamp, someone I would not touch with a seven-foot Pole.

[kidcarter8]

I'm sorry but I would start Mason instead of Tony D or Walker day 1.  Just my opinion.

Gotta start Chandler if Kelena is not ready.

Just DEAL with the tough matchup defensively - pay them back on the other end (as someone much smaller must check Wilson)

[theng]

Here are some Timofey's highlights in the Russia vs USA game, courtesy of TKB.

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/09/10/mozgov-vs-team-usa-highlights/

Love his agility...Damn, that nasty block against Rose...and above all...
Love his fiery attitude, and the way he plays... reckless abandon

[connectivity999]

One thing i do know is Nature is the law...

A church or priest gets blown away by the hurricane just like everything else.

A hungry vegan will eat meat before starving...its only natural

the laws of nature, like what goes up must come down are the only real laws that seem to prove fact.

See the Law of survival...it trumps everything

quantum physics as in the example of the Sun = the nucleus in a cell,  
same concept....2 different living existences, one BIG one small

existing in perhaps different time zones....when you think about other life forms existing out there
an atom or cell with a nucleus and protoplasm orbiting, could be a universe , just like our planets orbiting our sun. and our sun orbiting a bigger sun

I like how in Men in Black there was a mini universe existing in a locket attached to a doggies collar.

The Minuture Life-forces in that mini locket universe couldn't possibly over-stand time in the doggies or mans universe, its outside his comprehension,,,,just like us....nobody knows!

I would also assume that women came first,,, not out of a rib.  makes sense

from life to dust back into the environment is "what comes around goes around" is a natural law

or if you drive to many time with a suspended licence eventually you will get a ticket
Law of Odds!

I do believe in an All Mighty God....but not a God where they tell me Im more special than anyone else and if another person does not believe what i believe he is going to hell...that's a special tactic

that breeds hate,,,,there will never be equality in a system like that

some preacher will burn a holy book and the mosque will say see, i told you they where the devil
when in actuality the koran is very similar to the bible and was plaguarized after...

Man is responsible for his brothers and sisters as well as the animals and the planet it self

if we were all responsible for each other making it, we would all be better off.

we can do anything we can conceive, making us a type of creator

Its written in the Bible  "Ye are Gods and all children of the most high....
Lets act like we have some sense and save each other and the planet,,,we can do it,,its what we where put here to do

Rant over...

Go Knicks

[Aintitashaman]

Here are some Timofey's highlights in the Russia vs USA game, courtesy of TKB.

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/09/10/mozgov-vs-team-usa-highlights/

Love his agility...Damn, that nasty block against Rose...and above all...
Love his fiery attitude, and the way he plays... reckless abandon

I don't know what Timofey's Hoops IQ is, but one thing he does that is something of a lost art is moving without the ball. 

Moving without the ball was hallmark of Red Holzman Knick teams. 

He seems to have a predilection, if not an actual instinct, for playing screen and roll...nothing?  Re-set, screen again. 

He finishes strong when he has position in the blocks, with pretty good agility and a surprisingly dainty touch when called for.  I thought he had pretty good technique for a big guy in shooting free throws.  I should like to see what he has when shooting those short jumpers that Earl Barron was connecting on last season. 

Somebody pointed out that because of his constant screening and rolling, he will sometimes not be in optimum position to grab rebounds. 

This is true, however, it also means that he will not be bringing the offense to a grinding halt by planting himself in the box a la Eddy during his salad days in the low post.  Potentially this means that Amare has room to operate down low, with a kick out option to Timofey off of double teams, let alone to Gallinari on the wing. 

I will be interested to see how Timofey reacts when Amare is not in the box per se, but wandering out from 12-18 feet.  Will he be as effective rolling to the hoop, and will he develop some acumen in boxing out, and establishing position, a la our last center, brother Lee. 

Whatever else his rawness and defensive awkwardness betokens, the kid likes to run, runs well, seems to be in pretty decent basketball shape, plays with some fire and plays hard.  I soiled my shorts when I saw that block on Derrick Rose...never mind the body contact, but that he ran the floor with one of the fastest motherfuckers in the NBA, and that he got after that ball with a modicum of attitude. 

Clearly he is a project, but not as much of a tabula rase as all that.  Against a pretty representative squad of NBA elite, he competed, competed with some fire and desire, and made his presence felt. 

He played hard, he played hungry, he played like he was coach-able. played like he wanted floor time and like someone who is going to make it hard for MikeyD to banish him to Darkoville. 

As per all of the relativity regarding his upside, and how he is a career scrub at best, blahblahblah? 

Does he appear to have enough size, talent and athleticism to give us what say Robin Lopez brought to Phoenix or Gortat to Orlando? 

I think so, and that is a positive.  A big positive. 

Might he give us something akin to what Noah brings to the Bulls?

That is a stretch, but not as preposterous as all that. 

Still, I welcome the bemusement of the Kam-Biz-Rembee Axis as per my Durant-Gallinari, Rondo-Felton metaphors. 

PS: Dear Carmelo.  Shut your fucking mouth, stifle Leon and WWW, play out your season in Denver and give the fans there something to cheer.  Work on your footwork and man on man defense, your outside game and on creating off of a first step from 20-25 feet out, suggesting skills more readily associated with a 2-guard.  Then come on down to a stacked-stocked Knick team with a year's experience under their belts, and a solid young core of talent.  Otherwise, look for Denver to ship you to the Timberwolves.  Your wife might like the Tyrone Guthrie Theater, then again, she might not. 

[kidcarter8]

Stretch?

Hell, that one's here to IS-TAN-BUUUUUUUUL.

Noah rules.  We should be so lucky to have anyone close.  (JJ, Hill our best bets - and....................................SEEYA)

[rembee]

Kam-Biz-Rembee-Kiid Axis?  Who would have thought.

Otherwise, look for Denver to ship you to the Timberwolves.  Your wife might like the Tyrone Guthrie Theater, then again, she might not. 

Not sure what the latest Melo news is that preceded these comments, but….It isn’t New York or nothing.  That misconception persists, and may be the reason some here oppose giving up real assets in a trade for a top ten player, rather than offering Denver a 2nd rounder.

First, Melo has issued a list of desirable locations to Denver staff that is at least 4 teams deeper than Knicks, Knicks, and Knicks.  And Minnesota isn’t on it, I’d wager.  Second, Carmelo isn’t going to be traded anywhere he doesn’t want to go.  His contract is up at the end of the year, and no team is going to give up something real for a one year rental.  That doesn’t mean Denver doesn’t manage to trade him somewhere else, of course, but given that they are insisting they get something significant for their franchise player, it seems unlikely.

Who knows what will happen, but I have a couple of senses about the way things are going; Walsh is not in the driver’s seat.  Gallinari alone (plus Eddy and whatever) probably won’t be enough to get Melo.  And Knicks fans sniffing the air and saying “who needs him anyway” should probably know that this will be our best and possibly last chance of pairing Amare with another top NBA player before his 3 to 4 year window closes.
 
Bulls reportedly mulling an offer that may include Joakim Noah.  Maybe we could include Mozgov to trump that, right Chip?

[bodiddley]

Only saw some fragments of the consolation games.
Vasquez and Llull made big plays in the 4th Q for Spain.

Mozgov with a double-dub.  10 & 11 (and 5 fouls).
Was boarding better, even ripped down a few in traffic.
Didn't hurt that Oberto last jumped in 2006.
Monya played well until Scola tagged a handful of fouls on him.
Wonder why Khryapa (ex-Blazers and Bulls) wasn't with the team?

I can't see any reason that Mozgov can't be handling 10-15 minutes a night while learning the NBA game.  Probably already better than half the backup C's in the League (er, I'd need to check that).  I'd prefer Mozgov to Oberto or Brezec, who were also on Final 8 teams and have NBA jobs.

[Kam]

I'd trade the whole team (save Amare) for Melo.

[theng]

I'd trade the whole team (save Amare) for Melo.

And I am thankful that you are not the GM...