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Question: Who would you select as coach of the Knicks?
Larry Brown
Mike Fratello
Phil Jackson
Nate McMillan
Eric Musselman
Brian Shaw
Jeff Van Gundy
Mike Woodson
Michael Malone

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Buddy the Leper
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« Reply #90 on: April 26, 2007, 04:01:41 PM »

Its starting to feel like home in here

All we need now is:

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kidcarter8
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« Reply #91 on: April 26, 2007, 04:07:59 PM »

"Brown wanted to trade Frye.........."

And why is it you are not open to the possibility that this could have helped us?
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kidcarter8
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« Reply #92 on: April 26, 2007, 04:08:55 PM »

LB now rumored to Memphis, by the way (sorry if this was posted already)
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Buddy the Leper
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« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2007, 04:10:24 PM »


I can't help you if you didn't catch many games last year.


I was busy at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center having my prostate enlarged.
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rembee
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« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2007, 05:07:47 PM »

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/knicks/2007/04/dolan_full_of_excuses_and_some.html

Brown wasn't convinced that Channing Frye could be a big-time power forward.

This is the recent piece I was referring to, but I would have to dig deeper to reference the dispute Brown and Isiah had over trading him.  I’ll have to do that later.

And of course, kiid, one can’t dismiss the possibility that trading Frye last year might have helped, certainly in the short run and probably if the rumored Frye-Odom trade was true.    The point was made in reference to Brown being overrated as an educator…he’s more like a Texas school principle, kicking out the problem kids to improve his graduation rates. 

You can trust his ability to evaluate young talent (and it could still turn out that Frye is an all-out dud)  Problem is Brown has been wrong more times than right in the past (just ask Orlando how Milicic and Ariza have worked out for them) so I don’t think you should take Brown’s opinion of a rookie as a given after half a season.  That’s all.
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kam
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« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2007, 05:09:03 PM »

Where is Mister.Earl? Where is Chipstern? Where my boys at?
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kidcarter8
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« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2007, 05:10:12 PM »

".....kicking out the problem kids..."

If only Bird thought of this sooner.

AS OPPOSED TO COLLECTING EM, EH? 
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rembee
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« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2007, 05:10:36 PM »

The Principal is your pal.

Sorry, I was educated in Texas.
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rembee
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« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2007, 05:12:20 PM »


If only Bird thought of this sooner.


Channing Frye...Ron Artest.

Sorry, don't see the connection.
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rembee
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« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2007, 05:18:49 PM »

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/knicks/archives/2007/04/by_marc_berman_7.html

Frye’s trade value has plummeted. I will give Brown kudos on that one – he told Isiah last season Frye’s trade value may never be higher and he tried to make a handful of deals that featured the rookie, including one for Lamar Odom....Marc Berman
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badblkman
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« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2007, 05:23:17 PM »

I'll take my slap like a man Rem.  But it does seem once again that LB was a sage.
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rembee
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« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2007, 05:33:05 PM »

But it does seem once again that LB was a sage.

Once again?  Like with Ariza you mean?

Sorry, but I can't give the guy credit for possibly being right (still early to make that call i think) for just doing what is his MO, seeking to trade guys that in his opinion don't get it, won't ever play the right way (ie his way).  Not when that attitude sunk Philly by sending away guys that turned out to be real talents, not when that attitude had solid players on the bench like Milicic in Detroit and Lee here in NY.  Not when that led to a disastrous Francis for Ariza trade that we are going to be paying for down the line.

A sage?  no.  And not a teacher either.  The guy knows his basketball, but he is an impatient task-master with an itchier trigger finger than Isiah's.  And we all know that’s saying something.


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Buddy the Leper
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« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2007, 06:18:23 PM »


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But everyone who hears these sayings and believes them, will be like a foolish man who built his forum on the silicon: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that forum; and it fell.  And great was its fall.
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kam
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« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2007, 06:22:07 PM »


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But everyone who hears these sayings and believes them, will be like a foolish man who built his forum on the silicon: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that forum; and it fell.  And great was its fall.

A good point was brought up.... i forget who it was who said it...  the NYTimes brought a steady trickle of newcomers to the forum due to the perpetual "Discuss the Knicks" link on the sport page.  I wonder if this place will continue to grow.  Will Nagel, Emann et all eschew Elba for a nation divided?
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kidcarter8
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« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2007, 06:27:47 PM »

"seeking to get rid of guys that will never play the right way (ie - his way)........"

Had a 5 year deal.  Don't kill him for wanting those years to be as productive as possible

Or maybe a coach with his resume should have asked his boss how to coach the current personnel
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