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chipstern

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« Reply #315 on: August 20, 2018, 10:42:37 PM »

Of course Enes wanted a long term contract. 

Knicks were not inclined to given ANYBODY a long term contract. 

Enes tested the market, and found what the THREE D's--DeAndre and DeMarcus and Dwight--discovered. 

With the exception of Kristaps, Kevin, Frank and Mitchell, everyone is on the clock. 

I think it is premature define Enes as in or out. 

The trading deadline will mean pins and needles for EVERYONE, not just Enes.  A lot of one and done contracts.  And there will be a lot of give and take between the Knicks and their free agents, as players are taking a chance on the Knicks, and Knicks are taking a flyer on players.  You have to think there is some understanding between players and the Knicks going forward.  Not that anyone is making guarantees to each other.  Just open lines of communication. 

In any event, Enes has considerable passion about remaining a Knick. 

Prove it, kid.  Prove it Enes.  Make your case.

Ditto Baker, Mudiay, Burke, Trier, Hicks, Hezonja, Vonleh...

That's SEVEN players besides Enes with expiring contracts (or, as with Mudiay, the Knicks can choose to pick up his option...or not).  Significantly, yes, Enes' contract is for what, $19 million?  Thus all of the conjecture and scenarios. 

We shall see. 
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #316 on: August 20, 2018, 10:43:15 PM »

Riiiiight - then after losing all those close games the following year you start to win them

heh

Close losses suck.  Want the kids that w ill be with us to know how to close.

I expect .500 record or better in games decided by 4 or less.  THAT - not looking at a roster - will show promise.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #317 on: August 20, 2018, 10:52:21 PM »

Id just say that Hardaway is as close as we have to a locked in starter at this point.

Based on his abilities......or based on his contract?
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #318 on: August 20, 2018, 11:00:17 PM »

Both

By ability to put the ball in the hoop nobody is close.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #319 on: Today at 12:18:32 AM »

Though he'll also lead the team in airballs ...
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« Reply #320 on: Today at 01:26:08 AM »

Hes also our most prolific pouter/sulker. Theres a non-zero chance he doesnt stay on Fizzs good side or slumps his way from starting to the bench.
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« Reply #321 on: Today at 06:22:02 AM »

Happy thoughts about Hardaway. Lets give him some stability at PG for a while, along with steady health and see how he performs.

Now to extend some cap space.

Im assuming Noah is stretched regardless & we have an eye to giving Lance his million and free agency in a year the cap jumps at least 8 million. We my keep Lance for 2019-20 & pay out the stretch if we dont like our options with free agents and trades next summer.

To create some more space we could offer Lee, Baker, and Burke for Shumpert and Zach Randolph.

This saves Sacramento about 4 million this year, but costs them Lees salary in addition to the 30 something million the currently have committed (to 9 guys, which is pretty damn good). So theyd still be in double-max territory.

Lee would be the sole productive vet of any league tenure on the Kings. As a floor stretcher, diligent defender, and passionate competitor who takes care of his body and has been remarkably consistent throughout his career, he can mentor Jackson, Bogdonovic, Artis, McLemore, and Hield. It would be similar to what weve asked and would ask of him if he stays in NY. Hed get more minutes backing up Buddy than Tim most likely. Tim has actually had some career molding already and is more of a finished product. In addition, Burke would be an upgrade to backup pg over Frank Mason, who theyd be able to keep as 3rd pg unless he beats out Burke.

Wed be down to 15 contracts. Id also cut Shump who I dont believe is really healthy and get Shabbaz Mohammed for a 2 year minimum deal, or 1 year with team option.

Kanter Kornet  KP
Vonleh ZBo Robinson
Knox Hezonja Thomas
Hardaway Dotson Mohammed
Ntilikina Mudiay Allen 

Next year it would be

KP
Robinson
Knox Mohammed
Hardaway Dotson
Ntilikina

With QOs to Kornet & Mudiay, a first and second round pick, and about $60 million to work with under the cap.

This year wed have more positional depth and balance.

Not sure if its more or less likely than Arbines and Singler.

Id be willing to add a 2nd rounder in 2020 or later to either of those deals.

 
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