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kiiidcarter8

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Re: Luka
« Reply #2715 on: December 11, 2018, 10:25:05 PM »


DAL v. HOU.  Doncic was having a messy game.  lot of effort, but not getting much done.  Good plays mixed with bad.  But then down 8 with under 3 mins left, Luca popped in a wide open corner 3.  Then did a step back straight on 3 over Capela!  Hit a short midrange shot getting free in the paint.  then another stepback 3 over Capela.  A Doncic 11-0 run (helped that CP3 missed a pair of FT's in the middle), and DAL won.  Crazy.  Doncic really has a knack.  He works hard and tries all the time, and when he gets hot even questionable shots work.  The guy has that special something.  It will be something when he tightens up his game, but the razzle is part of his package.  Having a terrific season.

DONCIC, that’s the guy I wanted. Pity that ship has sailed!

As far as I know we never tried to deal up for him.
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Re: The double-double machine
« Reply #2716 on: December 11, 2018, 11:32:49 PM »

We don't NEED much from a 23-29 win team.

How much did we NEED Kyle O'Quinn?  Or Michael Beasley?  The Forum wanted to keep both.

Enes is a much better player than those two. Why you want an automatic double-double out of town? Just make a reasonable offer and see if he accepts.

I don't know... i think the value of the "walking double double" is overrated in today's game.

A) With faster space and scoring up there are more possessions and shot attempts taken - so more opportunities to get 10 and 10.
B) He would probably need to average 20 and 15 to make up for the lack of defense
C) Can't shoot threes, or even the standard Kurt Thomas /  David Lee 2-Pt Set shot. 
D) Needs to score off of misses.  Has limited low post game against good defenses.
e) double double in Pt/Rebs is the easiest type of double double to find a replacement for.  He is big and near the rim.  Not an exclusive skill. 
f) He is an "Elite" rebounder on the offensive glass.  Not much else in his game.  Not a slick passer.  Average IQ.  Clueless on D though effortful.

What's that worth?  A Mario Hezonja type deal maybe.  But I wouldn't prioritize Enes this summer and he will probably take an offer before we get around to him.

I actually think the value of the "walking double-double" is underrated. We have to adjust to what we have, not necessarily to what almost everybody else is doing.

and B) a 20-15 average for Kanter is very doable, given enough minutes and continuity.


Kam, your breakdown on Kanter is spot on. You might be overvaluing him. Baker money is the most I’d pay.

Fac, don't be so cheap. You'll regret it.

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Re: Luka
« Reply #2717 on: December 11, 2018, 11:34:59 PM »


DAL v. HOU.  Doncic was having a messy game.  lot of effort, but not getting much done.  Good plays mixed with bad.  But then down 8 with under 3 mins left, Luca popped in a wide open corner 3.  Then did a step back straight on 3 over Capela!  Hit a short midrange shot getting free in the paint.  then another stepback 3 over Capela.  A Doncic 11-0 run (helped that CP3 missed a pair of FT's in the middle), and DAL won.  Crazy.  Doncic really has a knack.  He works hard and tries all the time, and when he gets hot even questionable shots work.  The guy has that special something.  It will be something when he tightens up his game, but the razzle is part of his package.  Having a terrific season.

DONCIC, that’s the guy I wanted. Pity that ship has sailed!

As far as I know we never tried to deal up for him.

So? We didn't have anything to offer other than KP and that wasn't gonna happen. The ship sailed when our pick was #9.
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Re: KKK [Free Agents, Summer 2019]
« Reply #2718 on: Today at 12:36:26 AM »

Be interesting to see if any of the free agents we are interested in are actually on the move. 

Kawhi, Kevin, Kemba. 

I think they all stay put. 


I think at least one of them bounces. Probably Durant.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2719 on: Today at 12:37:14 AM »

We don't NEED much from a 23-29 win team.

How much did we NEED Kyle O'Quinn?  Or Michael Beasley?  The Forum wanted to keep both.

Excellent point. Forumites fall in love every year with replacement-level players (in the case of Beasley, sub-replacement-value players).
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2720 on: Today at 01:53:45 AM »

I’d much rather have O’Quinn than Kanter. I’d rather have Beas than Kanter and see what we can get out of Kornet. But untradeable Kanter was the price for getting out from under Anthony. So be it.
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