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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2007, 01:24:08 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r2WueJDD7c

To watch him shoot jumpers, This link is better
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2007, 01:25:27 PM »

Only Isaihs team could get blamed for losing despite only having 40% of his starting lineup. [/color]

Most of his starting line-up gone[/color]

40 % my rear end. By my reckoning he had 80% of his preferred starting lineup for most of the pathetic finish including BOTH his franchise (list price paid) players : Marbury, Francis, Jeffries, X, Curry. And if you add in Snacks as X (who the budding hall of fame coach seemed to prefer over Lee) that makes 100%.

p.s. welcome to the new home BBLK
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2007, 01:28:37 PM »



Question for you draft gurus - Any dead-eye shooters within range of our 23rd overall pick?

Italy's Marco Belinelli
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-A4N9-ti8&NR
NBA Comparison: Ray Allen

And then there's this Morris Almond kid,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxABT1q1V4I
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2007, 03:07:25 PM »

Talk about just like home! I just lost my first post!

Let's try again!

improvement as you seem to be?  23 wins was this team's ceiling according to some, then it became 33, with injuries just a lame excuse.  What about next year?

This is lame.  Because it fails to, as Jaq said, look at the whole picture.  Sans last year's debacle, what's the franchise’s record since Isaiah came onboard?  The answers is around 33 wins.

So Isaiah took an old, unathletic, overpaid, poorly coached (since the coaches were fired this is a safe assumption) roster turned it over twice and produced an athletic overpaid, properly coached (again, an assumption) roster with the same win total?  Is there something wrong with this picture?

I'll give to Zeke, his drafting is amazing and that's not what's held back this franchise.  It's his trades and free-agent signings (yes ALL of them) that are killing us.

Case in point, Mardy Collins.  Mardy showed us this season that he's got all the tools and could be a great two-way player.  But what do we do with him next year? How many minutes is he going to get on the guard-heavy (expensive guards at that) roster?

The dreck is chocking the franchise.

A vast majority of those dismissing the injury talk as "lame excuses"

It probably wouldn't be view as lame if it didn't come on the heels of excuses like, Post-Traumatic LB Syndrome, our schedule was too hard and my personal favorite, the FANS.

an identity on offense

Nice try!  But you do know that there's a whole 'nother part of the game called D.E.F.E.N.S.E. right?

Nah, you're probably right, all is well, nothing to complain about.

Let's just practice patience!  FOR ANOTHER SEASON!
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2007, 03:18:10 PM »

So is our pick fixed at #23 or is it incumbent upon Chicago’s performance in the playoffs?
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2007, 03:34:53 PM »

p.s. welcome to the new home BBLK

Thanks Les!
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2007, 03:44:12 PM »

Salut tout le monde.

I feel bad posting here because FWK has put in a lot of work over on knicksmecca. He deserves credit. I'll probably pull double duty until emann's site is up.

Who runs this joint? Is there moderation? Can I go to the Middle East section and ask questions like "Did we ever determine who was at fault, the Arabs or the Israelis?" just to see what happens?

I agree with that bad black man, there is too much dreck on this rostor. It holds the yutes back. Snacks should not play ahead of Randolph Morris next year. And Francis should not be allowed back in the home dressing room in New York.

Nate failed to impress at any point this season. He's gone.

My gut tells me Frye is gone too. But these players will NOT get traded: Curry, Lee, Steph, Jamal. Plus Q cannot be moved, and it is unlikely that Snacks, JJ Slim can be moved or that Humpty or Mardy would be moved. I think Malik and Morris are gone if there is a blockbuster. Irrespective of what Isiah says, he will try make exploratory calls about superstars...unfortunately, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, and Lenny Wilkins are the people to call. And they are all probably loathe to return Isiah's calls. Same with whoever runs the joint in Denver, where there is one high-priced big too many.
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2007, 03:44:17 PM »


40 % my rear end. By my reckoning he had 80% of his preferred starting lineup for most of the pathetic finish including BOTH his franchise (list price paid) players : Marbury, Francis, Jeffries, X, Curry. And if you add in Snacks as X (who the budding hall of fame coach seemed to prefer over Lee) that makes 100%.


Some strained math there, dawg.  I was gone, but seems like we didn't have Marbury for the last 8-10 games really.  If Francis was Isiah's preferred starter then why didn't he start him when he was "healthy"?  He gave it a shot, then moved on, leading to Franchise’s mysterious season ending (but then not) arthritis.  Or don't you remember that?  Crawford was starting and leading the team in scoring.  Jeffries was the projected starter before the season, but usually started the game on the bench when Richardson was healthy.  Isiah preferred snacks to Lee?  Guess that’s why he played him 4 minutes to Lee's 33.  

I get the argument that you want to make...if it wasn't for injuries and suspensions forcing Isiah's hand, that would be our starting line-up and we should have expected to play at a 2-15 clip all season.  I don't buy it, and I suspect you don't either.  But I get why you are trying.

Kind of like the argument that if we hadn't let Rose and Taylor go (or hadn't made it clear that they wouldn't get the PT leading them to request an out) then we would be a 23 win team again.  
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2007, 03:44:53 PM »

Pick is fixed.



(This is a test to see how the modify function works.)
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2007, 03:51:21 PM »

Badblak  a team doesn't just rebound right away after trading away their franchise player historically, look at chicago took them years to get back into contention, the celtics, detroit and a few more teams. I guess my point is rome wasn't built in a day and when Isaih first got here fans like you was putting the pressure on to win now hence the bad trades and mle signings but now he realize thats not the way to go so against your better wishes we're allowing the youth to play gain experience allow the dreck to come off the cap.  Isaih is a young GM who came in gun happy but have since learned a lesson and is approaching the job with patience and diligence.  
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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2007, 04:02:34 PM »

Badblak  a team doesn't just rebound right away after trading away their franchise player historically, look at chicago took them years to get back into contention, the celtics, detroit and a few more teams. I guess my point is rome wasn't built in a day and when Isaih first got here fans like you was putting the pressure on to win now hence the bad trades and mle signings but now he realize thats not the way to go so against your better wishes we're allowing the youth to play gain experience allow the dreck to come off the cap.  Isaih is a young GM who came in gun happy but have since learned a lesson and is approaching the job with patience and diligence.  

WOW!  Now it's my fault?

jaq, Letting the dreck come the cap is exactly what I wanted.  Even after he turned over the roster the first time I wanted him to stand pat and let the team gel.  Alas, Zeke wanted to put his stamp on the team and get rid of every vestige of the Dim Layden era, no matter what the cost.
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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2007, 04:05:37 PM »

Salut tout le monde.

I feel bad posting here because FWK has put in a lot of work over on knicksmecca. He deserves credit. I'll probably pull double duty until emann's site is up.


Welcome aboard.  FWK's work was indeed crucial in holding us together since the Yahoo site held so little appeal.  I don't feel bad though.  I contribute to both forums.  I posted a link from here to FWKs site and a link from his site over to this one. Whichever one takes off is the one i'll visit more. I think this place is more of what we're accustomed to but i wasn't averse to the blogs either.  Ultimately its up to the quality of posts.

 
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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2007, 04:09:03 PM »

I like FWK's site.  But, it's just a little too much for my taste for posting purposes.
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« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2007, 04:09:56 PM »



Celtics ditch Telfair.

"I wanted to let you know that we have removed Sebastian's nameplate from his locker in Waltham. The facts and circumstances of his case have not been determined but he does not have a Celtics locker and we do not anticipate that he will," Celtics managing partner Wyc Grousbeck wrote in an e-mail to the Boston Globe on Tuesday.

Why?

"The players on the Celtics have been explicitly warned, this year, to obey the team and league gun prohibition as well as state laws. We take this very seriously and will act accordingly once the facts have been determined,"

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« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2007, 04:23:06 PM »

Thats it we dump Francis and scoop us Telfair let him and Mardy battle for the starting job.
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