Knicks

[bodiddley]

Say what?

- Artest is a headcase and has messed up his last two teams badly.  And these days he's no longer content to just D up, but wants to be featured with the ball and jack threes.  Pass.

- Nash on the bench might have had something to do with the 30 point lead.  Besides he did his night's work already, dropping 14 dimes in 25 minutes.  Barbosa is what we wish Crawford could be.

- Blake has a pretty shaky outside shot.  He is a good distributor and hustles though.

[connectivity999]

bodiddley

We need defense... Is Jared the answer?   No!

Artest will do what his main man and guy that will restore his career Isiah says!  I have not seen a player that Isiah can not reach.  I dont blame Artest for what happened in Detroit...he did not want to fight Ben Wallace...and nobody could save the Kings by the time he arrived out there.   Living in a place like sacremento will mess up any marriage when you are from the city... Rons attemps at 3 ptrs would be stopped by Zeke... I honestly believe Ron Artest could find a home at the Garden where they reward hard work defense.  But the Knicks cant stop anyone right now...if they could stop NJ or orlando or Toronto or milwaukee they would be a shoe in to go to the playoffs...Thats all the knicks are missing...

I listened to this forum taught up Channing Frye...what a bust.  now you pass on Ron Artest the toughest SOB in the league?   Dumb...ask Oakley what he thinks I bet he says get some defense.

connect out.

[trains1]

You got to admit, that trade that Indy made was just awful. I can't believe they brought in those scrub pushovers. J Oneil was pissed at the time and if he does want out, surely Isiah would be the answer. Zeke has turned into a pretty cool players coach.

If Zeke has a choice of where to trade his assets, it has to be with Indy. Maybe they'll take Frye and package for Oneal. I can live with Balkman/Q/Jeffries at the SF spot, I can't be happy with Frye though. He's just too laid back to be Curry's sidekick. Its possible even this Morris kid was nabbed as trade fodder to Indy, they'll want low priced potential. My two favorite yutes on this team are Lee and Balkman, hopefully we can keep those two because they are hustle guys who play above the rim.

And yes, Artest is the easier acquisition, he's also riskier and provides less.

[rembee]

OK, I admit I like Carlisle because of the Cavalier connection but take a look at this and let me know your thoughts...

http://knicksmecca.blogspot.com/2007/04/carlisle.html

Would never happen, of course, and I think Isiah retains both hats as long as he is in NY.  But like I said, I like Carlisle.

[rembee]

Funny to think about the connections....Carlisle gets passed up for the Pacers coaching job for Isiah...Carlisle takes head coaching job for Isiah's former team the Pistons...Carlisle builds up the Pistons only to be replaced by one Larry Brown...Carlisle replaces Isiah on the Pacers when Bird becomes GM..........to be continued?

[trains1]

Potential early trade scenerio

http://mvn.com/nba-knicks/2007/04/25/trade-speculation-starts-early/

We move Frye/Crawford/Jeffries for Oneal

I'd do this trade instantly. We get better defensively underneath, we add an underneath scorer, and we get better defensively on the perimeter by subtraction. If this goes through, I hope Clyde is working overtime on Mardy Collins. I think Marbury could be a solid SG...

[thebizneverloses]

Indy will be insistent that any deal for O'Neal will have to include Tinsley. And Crawford can't be moved. Let's say Frye/Francis/Jeffries/Nate for O'Neal/Tinsley/Greene. They save bit time money.

Then let's trade Malik and Morris for Artest, since Sacto is desperate to unload Ron Ron.

We would need to replace Malik's interior defense and leadership, and I like Dale Davis. He's tough and he's experienced.

And I think Carlisle is a brilliant Xs and Os guy. Nice post Rembee, I'm with you.

So...Coach Carlisle will be able to trot out a very familiar lineup of Tinsley/Q/Artest/Davis/J'Oneal. I say Q because he offers the outside shooting and tenacious D that Stephen Jackson might have provided.

[kidcarter8]

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[connectivity999]

Who said no bad apples?

You guys act like you putting together a boys chior.

This is basketball....defensive respect is needed in this game...


Read my lips!

We need some STOPS!    wouldnt it be nice if the GARDEN CROWD WAS YELLING DE - FENCE! , DE - FENCE! AND THE KNICKS ACTUALLY CAME THROUGH?

Read any blog from the players in the playoffs now....All they are saying is we need to get some STOPS!!!   If we can hold them to 80 points we can win.... If we can contain this player or that player we would win?   The Knicks need defense and or a real Star like jermaine ONeil or Ron Artest....

Ok whats the worst that can happen he beats up a few guys....Isiah has his back

Artest when he was in favor in Indiana...was loved big time....he will not back down...The Garden is one of those places that would bring the best out of Ron Artest because the fans ask so much from you....Ron would go the extra mile for the team...he would be a protector for Curry...he would be a rebounding maniac...along side w/Lee the Knicks would rule the boards...If you double on Marbury or Curry or Crawford...Ron can hurt teams offensively also...

ONeil is a great choice but my choice is Ron...he actually was better at times than jermaine when they played together...    We need stops! Put artest on JKidd or Vince or those soft ass Chicago Bull guys...  We would shut up all that chatter from Skiles and jason Kidd and that soft ass jefferson.

I cant wait to beat NJ.

[kam]

David Lee should start and both Q-rich and Jefferies need a change of scenery.  Check out the top unit in terms of +/- for the Knicks.  The units that play the most, were the worst performers except in one scenario:  When DLee and Frye join Curry in the frontcourt.

http://knicksmecca.blogspot.com/2007/04/best-5-man-unit-that-plays-most-starts.html

[badblkman]

I have to agree with c9.

There's no REAL fight in this team.  Getting down by 25 and then scrambling to come back and lose by 6 is fools gold.  We need someone that's going to get into the opposition's drawers and in the face of any teammate that won't do the same.

How times would Steph let the opposing pg blow past him before Ron-Ron is up in his grill?

[kidcarter8]

First thing we do is make Mardy Collins the starting PG.  15-6-6 with a defensive ethic is enough proof for me.

[badblkman]

That's cool, but but who sits?

[kidcarter8]

In reality - noone

Isiah will continue his open player policy - allowing for each guy to NOT know a role, but think there is LIGHT for them.

He will NOT deal from excess, NOT thin the herd to a manageable number.

He likes his ASSETS too much for his own good.  He is INCAPABLE of deliveringbad news to a player, thus will not curtail anyone's playing time any more than he needs to.

And we will again be a MESS.

Oh, you menat what would I do?  Let's not get into that again.

[rembee]

How times would Steph let the opposing pg blow past him before Ron-Ron is up in his grill?

How long are we going to have to hear the old, and never really true, chestnut of guys "blowing past" Marbury?

Here is an update for those who missed this season...1) Marbury wasn't guarding the opponents pg, but usually their sg, 2) He was at numerous times this teams best back-court defender, putting in effort that was usually respectable and sometimes spectacular (see his defensive performance against Ray Allen) and 3) It was Marbury who was "up in the grill" of his teammates when effort or focus was lacking.  Really, with Crawford and Francis to pick on, the continued obsession with Marbury is telling.

We need better defensive players, period, starting with a shot-blocker.  We don't need an Artest getting all up in playas grills.  We saw where that got Indiana, and it didn't seem to do much for the Kings.