Escape from Elba
Exiles of the New York Times
April 22, 2018, 02:10:39 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: As you may have noticed, this is a very old backup, I'm still working through restoring the site.  Don't be surprised if you post and it all goes missing....
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Poll
Question: World Series  (Voting closed: October 24, 2017, 11:59:40 PM)
Astros in 7 - 0 (0%)
Astros in 6 - 2 (50%)
Astros in 5 - 0 (0%)
Astros in 4 - 0 (0%)
Dodgers in 4 - 0 (0%)
Dodgers in 5 - 0 (0%)
Dodgers in 6 - 1 (25%)
Dodgers in 7 - 1 (25%)
Total Voters: 4

Pages: 1 ... 1270 1271 [1272] 1273 1274 ... 1306
  Print  
Author Topic: American League  (Read 84723 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
MrUtley3
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 7644

X'Cessive Mercenary


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19065 on: November 22, 2017, 06:39:10 AM »

The Braves have always been a suspect organization. This is inexcusable and really bad for baseball, because it reminds everyone of the tawdry history MLB has of exploiting foreign players and their families, particularly in places like the Dominican and Venezuela. It doesn't look good for the Yankees, either, as Coppolella learned his craft in their organization. And as the article states, the Boston Red Sox have had their own problems in this area. The Phillies actually signed a player that Boston had to give up, due to their rules infractions in this area of the baseball business.

I'm guessing the message to the rest of the teams might be heard, now, given the lifetime suspension for Coppolella. "Might".

After all, the big money teams have always had a way of circumventing the rules. Good to see the Commissioner addressing the problem seriously, and it appears to be an attempt to level the playing field for the other teams. Time will tell.


http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21506598/ex-atlanta-braves-gm-john-coppolella-placed-mlb-banned-list-team-loses-prospects

Logged

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
MrUtley3
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 7644

X'Cessive Mercenary


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19066 on: November 22, 2017, 06:45:31 AM »

Gabe, the New Age Manager in Philly:

It’s understandable if you listened to Kapler at his introductory press conference two weeks ago and came away thinking him a little bit much. The line between sage and charlatan is often difficult to distinguish in the present moment, and Kapler wouldn’t be the first person in the internet age to turn himself into an expert simply by acting like one. Absent a track record of success, one can do worse than to look the part and speak in vaguely defined abstractions. It’s not what you know that’s important, but what you make people think that you know. Quackery can become wisdom in the hands of the right salesman, and it’s pretty clear that Kapler knows how to sell.

Yet there is plenty to suggest that Kapler’s hiring is more than a case of wishful thinking. Beneath his polished appearance and proselytizing tone, there is a bedrock of substance. Take, for instance, the emphasis he placed on authenticity when explaining his communication style.

“More than anything else,” he said, “I am who I am, and I’m authentic, and our players today follow authenticity more than anything else, more than any other characteristic.”

This claim is not merely anecdotal. Studies in the social and corporate sciences increasingly identify authenticity as one of the more important attributes for a leader in any organization. Bill George, a senior fellow at the Harvard Business School and a former CEO of Medtronic, has spent much of the last two decades conducting research on the topic, including hundreds of hours of interviews with executives from a broad cross-section of organizations that support the notion that the 20th century’s command-and-control is a paradigm best consigned to history’s paper shredder. A baseball manager is one of professional sports’ most enduring archetypes, a grizzled, old-school, establishment figure who operates as if respect is a commodity that is his alone to award.


“In business, that grizzled guy would be a guy with gray hair and a big barrel chest who is 6-foot-2 and puts every one down and dominates everyone around him,” said George, whose work includes two books: 2003’s Authentic Leadership and 2007’s Truth North. “That’s not what people are looking for. They’re looking for someone who is real, someone who makes them feel like they know where they stand.”

One characteristic common among frauds is a rigid insistence on the supremacy of one’s personal orthodoxy. This is a trait whose manifestations, while subtle, are difficult to disguise, because any expression of dissent is an implication of fallibility, and thus results in an almost compulsive need to contradict that dissent, so central is the presumption of infallibility to that person’s self-identity. If gods answered letters, they would no longer be gods.


From that perspective, one of the more encouraging moments of Kapler’s introductory press conference occurred when he explained his philosophy on building a coaching staff.

“Quite simply and directly, I believe in building diversity,” Kapler said. “I don’t want seven people in our dugout that think just like me.”

This is an illuminating statement on a couple of different levels. Regarding the manager, it suggests an abundant of self-awareness (because no man is omniscient) and an enduring self-confidence (because no man likes to acknowledge he isn’t omniscient), both of which raise hope that Kapler can avoid the kind of impudent bullheadedness that has presaged the fall of many intelligent men....Professional sports are no longer the domain of wildcatters and traveling salesmen. The games are still the games, but those games are now won and lost in a complex economic arena in which billion-dollar companies compete against each other for the same fixed pool of talent, the scarcity and sophistication and transparency of which have drastically diminished the ability to find value through traditional means. Maybe there’s a kid on some farm in Nebraska throwing cow pellets against the barn at 105 mph, but, chances are, the local travel ball team is going to find him first, and by the time your flight arrives in North Platte, he’ll be playing at a showcase in front of 31 other scouts.

Information is the original currency. Power has always flowed to those who possess it. Once upon a time, possession was primarily a function of access. If you knew what you were looking for, and where to look, the advantage was yours. Now, everybody has access to the same information. The advantage goes to those who have the best understanding of what that information means, of what it says about the optimal way to position defenders, to pitch to hitters, to allocate payroll dollars, to treat and prevent injuries, to prepare for games, to travel, to sleep, to build strength and ingest nutrients. It goes to those who can glean from it lessons on the relative importance of physical characteristics, from heights and weights and ages to skill sets.


http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/gabe-kapler-manager-phillies-make-bold-statement-organization-future-20171121.html

Murphy is the best baseball writer out there. Very much in the style of the great Gary Smith, he assumes you have a brain, and that is genuinely refreshing.
Logged

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
MrUtley3
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 7644

X'Cessive Mercenary


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19067 on: November 22, 2017, 07:10:52 AM »

Joe Morgan, defender of the Hall:

Joe Morgan is serious about baseball’s standards of excellence. The Cincinnati Reds legend and baseball Hall of Famer wrote a letter to the Baseball Writers’ Association of America on Monday in which he implored Hall of Fame voters not to induct known steroid users into the sport’s most hallowed place. Esteemed baseball writer Joe Posnanski shared Morgan’s letter on his blog, and the Baseball Hall of Fame sent it to a wider audience. “We hope the day never comes when known steroid users are voted into the Hall of Fame,” Morgan writes on behalf of himself and other Hall of Famers, whom he declined to identify. “They cheated. Steroid users don’t belong here. “Players who failed drug tests, admitted using steroids, or were identified as users in Major League Baseball’s investigation into steroid abuse, known as the Mitchell Report, should not get in. Those are the three criteria that many of the players and I think are right.” Morgan emphasizes the deliberate nature of steroid use makes players’ cheating so abhorrent and threatens he and other Hall of Famers will no longer attend induction ceremonies in Cooperstown, N.Y., if steroid users are admitted into the Hall. “If steroid users get in, it will divide and diminish the Hall, something we couldn’t bear,” Morgan writes.

Read more at:

https://nesn.com/2017/11/why-joe-morgan-wants-to-keep-steroid-cheats-out-of-baseball-hall-of-fame/

It's an interesting take, because it seems that there are more than a few sportswriters* who are thinking it's now okay to put in the cheaters, because Bud Selig is in the Hall. And that makes sense, too. Baseball was in big trouble after that strike in the early '90's, and Selig and the owners were thrilled with the MacGwires and Bonds and Sosas and A-Rods at that time.

How can you admit to the Hall the guy who knew about the steroid abuse and oversaw the expansion of the game in that era, but not include the players who helped him bring about that success---the success that helped create the game we have today, with 6 divisions instead of 4, the added Wild Card, emphasis on long ball in smaller, more fan friendly ballparks, etc?

How can you keep out Bonds or Clemens when Joe Torre and Bobby Cox and Tony LaRussa are in, based on their managing records or wins garnered by the PED users they managed on their teams? Bagwell is in, Piazza is in, Pudge Rodriguez, and each was linked to PED use?

Morgan has thrown a wrench into the works for the BBWAA, an organization who once honored a known child molesting sportswriter by enshrining him in the HOF**.









* http://www.courant.com/sports/baseball/hc-jacobs-column-hall--bonds-clemens-1215-20161214-column.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/bud-selig-bonds-clemens-hall-vote-article-1.2899196


**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFpdsouboTw

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/2014/04/01/last-days-bill-conlin/

The Hall has some permanent stains on the floors of its Cooperstown gem, and it looks like Morgan wants to keep it from getting worse. In this era where nothing-is-wrong-if-everything-is-right, I think the gutless BBWAA will unfortunately keep him, his bucket, and his mop locked away.

He's already lost the war.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2017, 07:13:15 AM by MrUtley3 » Logged

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
kidcarter8
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 9157


View Profile Email

Ignore
« Reply #19068 on: November 22, 2017, 08:05:33 AM »

So ......... lets see that list of players that should be permanently banned from the Hall.
Logged
NYKnicks12
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 928


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19069 on: November 22, 2017, 06:15:00 PM »

Joe Morgan, defender of the Hall:

Joe Morgan is serious about baseball’s standards of excellence. The Cincinnati Reds legend and baseball Hall of Famer wrote a letter to the Baseball Writers’ Association of America on Monday in which he implored Hall of Fame voters not to induct known steroid users into the sport’s most hallowed place. Esteemed baseball writer Joe Posnanski shared Morgan’s letter on his blog, and the Baseball Hall of Fame sent it to a wider audience. “We hope the day never comes when known steroid users are voted into the Hall of Fame,” Morgan writes on behalf of himself and other Hall of Famers, whom he declined to identify. “They cheated. Steroid users don’t belong here. “Players who failed drug tests, admitted using steroids, or were identified as users in Major League Baseball’s investigation into steroid abuse, known as the Mitchell Report, should not get in. Those are the three criteria that many of the players and I think are right.” Morgan emphasizes the deliberate nature of steroid use makes players’ cheating so abhorrent and threatens he and other Hall of Famers will no longer attend induction ceremonies in Cooperstown, N.Y., if steroid users are admitted into the Hall. “If steroid users get in, it will divide and diminish the Hall, something we couldn’t bear,” Morgan writes.

Read more at:

https://nesn.com/2017/11/why-joe-morgan-wants-to-keep-steroid-cheats-out-of-baseball-hall-of-fame/

It's an interesting take, because it seems that there are more than a few sportswriters* who are thinking it's now okay to put in the cheaters, because Bud Selig is in the Hall. And that makes sense, too. Baseball was in big trouble after that strike in the early '90's, and Selig and the owners were thrilled with the MacGwires and Bonds and Sosas and A-Rods at that time.

How can you admit to the Hall the guy who knew about the steroid abuse and oversaw the expansion of the game in that era, but not include the players who helped him bring about that success---the success that helped create the game we have today, with 6 divisions instead of 4, the added Wild Card, emphasis on long ball in smaller, more fan friendly ballparks, etc?

How can you keep out Bonds or Clemens when Joe Torre and Bobby Cox and Tony LaRussa are in, based on their managing records or wins garnered by the PED users they managed on their teams? Bagwell is in, Piazza is in, Pudge Rodriguez, and each was linked to PED use?

Morgan has thrown a wrench into the works for the BBWAA, an organization who once honored a known child molesting sportswriter by enshrining him in the HOF**.









* http://www.courant.com/sports/baseball/hc-jacobs-column-hall--bonds-clemens-1215-20161214-column.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/bud-selig-bonds-clemens-hall-vote-article-1.2899196


**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFpdsouboTw

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/2014/04/01/last-days-bill-conlin/

The Hall has some permanent stains on the floors of its Cooperstown gem, and it looks like Morgan wants to keep it from getting worse. In this era where nothing-is-wrong-if-everything-is-right, I think the gutless BBWAA will unfortunately keep him, his bucket, and his mop locked away.

He's already lost the war.

“Chicks dig the long ball...”
Logged
MrUtley3
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 7644

X'Cessive Mercenary


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19070 on: November 22, 2017, 07:02:50 PM »

So ......... lets see that list of players that should be permanently banned from the Hall.

 We know some already. Bonds. Sosa. Clemons. Ortiz. Arod. MacGwire...
Logged

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
kidcarter8
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 9157


View Profile Email

Ignore
« Reply #19071 on: November 22, 2017, 07:05:26 PM »

Hey, Big Fan -

it's Clemens

and McGwire
Logged
kidcarter8
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 9157


View Profile Email

Ignore
« Reply #19072 on: November 22, 2017, 07:06:11 PM »

I can tell you right now - Joel Sherman is voting for David Ortiz.
Logged
MrUtley3
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 7644

X'Cessive Mercenary


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19073 on: November 23, 2017, 09:23:47 AM »

Hey, Big Fan -

it's Clemens

and McGwire

Not on my phone. ; )
Logged

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
bankshot1
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 5978


A non-card carrying citizen of RSN since 1957


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19074 on: November 23, 2017, 10:20:25 AM »

Happy Thanksgiving to the Elbaese

Logged

"Hank Steinbrenner?
What a bunch of
(expletive) that is!"

-Red Sox Nation
MrUtley3
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 7644

X'Cessive Mercenary


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19075 on: November 23, 2017, 10:16:00 PM »

Baseball Thanksgiving:
http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2014/11/27/102512850/baseball-used-to-be-played-on-thanksgiving-day
Logged

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
MrUtley3
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 7644

X'Cessive Mercenary


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19076 on: November 27, 2017, 12:23:26 PM »

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2017/11/mlb_trade_rumors_could_yankees_land_orioles_manny.html#incart_river_home_pop

Duquettishness: Trading Machado within the division to New York would be a tough sell to the O's fan base, but the Yankees are a perfect fit for Machado, given that they don't have a long-term solution at the hot corner and will likely be a front-runner for his services next year when he hits free agency. If the Yanks would part with shortstop Gleyber Torres, the No. 1 prospect in the game who is coming off Tommy John surgery, that would make it enticing for the Orioles. Both sides would be equally uncomfortable in a deal like that, which usually means it makes plenty of sense.
Logged

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
yankguy
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 3471


View Profile Email

Ignore
« Reply #19077 on: November 27, 2017, 12:32:55 PM »

Despite his having kind of weird season last year, Machado's still going to get better.  If I were the Yankees, I'd make that trade (though I'd like to see who/what else besides Torres it costs)
« Last Edit: November 27, 2017, 12:42:22 PM by yankguy » Logged

I hope your brother's El Camino runs forever.....
bankshot1
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 5978


A non-card carrying citizen of RSN since 1957


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19078 on: November 27, 2017, 01:12:55 PM »

I hope the Os can resign Machado unless they can get some real high-end can't miss guys. He's a  Face of the Franchise type guy plus he's a good guy to root against.
Logged

"Hank Steinbrenner?
What a bunch of
(expletive) that is!"

-Red Sox Nation
MrUtley3
Superhero Member
******
Posts: 7644

X'Cessive Mercenary


View Profile

Ignore
« Reply #19079 on: November 27, 2017, 01:35:22 PM »

ICYMI, Jeff Passan on why he ain't voting for the HOF. Thanks to Joe Morgan's letter:

My ballot will arrive this week. I will not fill it out. I will not participate in this charade where the shepherds charged with telling the story of baseball want to avoid telling the ugly parts. I will not even though players like Edgar Martinez really could use my vote. Sorry, Edgar. Blame Joe Morgan’s sanctimony for this one.

All of baseball struggles with having honest, forthright, frank conversations about performance-enhancing drugs — not about what players use but why they use it and where it exists on the spectrum next to legal options and what they use it for and the million other questions that exist in a more granular, intelligent debate. It always devolves into the same lowest-common-denominator mess, wherein the aggrieved side bleats “cheater” and nothing ever gets accomplished.

People like Joe Morgan, and institutions like the Hall of Fame, prefer to retreat to the place best embodied by the postscript of the letter: “Families come to Cooperstown because they know it’s special. To parents, it’s a place they can take their kids for a uplifting, feel-good visit.”

Look, nothing says uplifting quite like the story of Cap Anson, who played an important role in keeping black players out of Major League Baseball. And if you want to feel good, how about Tom Yawkey? Not only did he resist integration, he hired a man who for years molested young, black boys at Red Sox spring training.

The most sacred place in baseball? Nah. It’s just a museum. That’s all it ever was. That’s all it ever will be.


https://sports.yahoo.com/giving-hall-fame-vote-joe-morgans-letter-144738128.html

He fails to mention how the BBWAA inducted Bill Conlin, though.
Logged

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Pages: 1 ... 1270 1271 [1272] 1273 1274 ... 1306
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!