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ponderosa
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« Reply #450 on: April 11, 2008, 11:56:53 AM »

Rats. Can't quite wrap my head around that one. I'm thinking Philip K. Dick. Or is it Joseph Wambaugh? Don't see the Lovitz connect, though.
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« Reply #451 on: April 11, 2008, 12:10:03 PM »

I may not be back today, so here's the film....

http://imdb.com/title/tt0405336/


....at which you can peek (and then you can google the phrase "Flow my tears" if you wish), if you remain stumped.

Big hint:  the film is a futuristic political satire, and a huge godawful mess....but this director's fans think it's brilliant.

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« Reply #452 on: April 11, 2008, 12:21:50 PM »

Yeah, I've yet to read that one and haven't seen the film, but hey, dystopia, the apocalypse and, and porn stars! Can't be all bad. And I like Cheri Oteri. Always thought she was one of the best of the latter day SNL crowd. I wonder why she doesn't get more film roles.
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« Reply #453 on: April 11, 2008, 01:17:43 PM »

Me too.

Well, I am back, so I can add that the film is not ALL bad -- the ensemble is loaded with talent -- Dwayne Johnson spoofs himself in a sometimes funny caricature of his more usual action hero roles, Wallace Shawn delivers a few LOL worthy lines, John Larroquette manages some comic presence, and various youthful stars play bizarrely against their usual typecasting, e.g. Sarah M-Geller and Mandy Moore.  But none of this saves it from being, IMO, an ugly sebaceous ooze of weirdness.

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« Reply #454 on: April 11, 2008, 01:24:41 PM »

But none of this saves it from being, IMO, an ugly sebaceous ooze of weirdness.

I am soooo there!  This sounds like a must-find, based on the diverse cast alone. 


Committing a cross-topic post sin here, but ponderosa, your avatar reminds me of my favorite Vonnegut movie, Mother Night -- which also featured Alan Arkin, who was discussed in the regular movie forum.  Just couldn't contain myself, sorry.  I really love that flick.
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« Reply #455 on: April 11, 2008, 02:54:38 PM »

Haven't read enough Vonnegut myself. Mother Night sounds interesting though. The film would make a great twin-bill with Lives of Others. I dig Alan Arkin.
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« Reply #456 on: April 11, 2008, 11:20:22 PM »

Followed up on "flow my tears" and even found some youtube renditions. Beautiful stuff. Thanks.

I thought Southland Tales might be based on PKD's book, but is merely referenced via Lovitz' dialogue.

One for the weekend...

"I love you, Walter, but sooner or later you're gonna have to face the fact that you're a goddamn moron." The Dude

In what film does Jeff Bridges' character use the line, "No, I think you're a moron, and I don't want to get in trouble."

Coincidentally, the reputed moron later says "I love this guy!"



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« Reply #457 on: April 11, 2008, 11:20:52 PM »

PS. Happy weekend all.
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« Reply #458 on: April 12, 2008, 09:35:05 AM »

Haven't read enough Vonnegut myself. Mother Night sounds interesting though. The film would make a great twin-bill with Lives of Others. I dig Alan Arkin.


Ponderosa,

Although there is nothing like Slaughterhouse Five to flip you out while watching this at home, and asking yourself,"What did I get into here?", by
the time you get to Valerie Perrine as Montana Wildhack  you'll have no doubts that you came to the right place.   

Personally, I think that Vonnegut tells you, going to war can split a man's consciousness in two and he'll never be the same again.

But though, like harrie, Mother Night is my favorite flick based on Vonnegut and it is very heavy, Arkin's role is the ultimate CIA agent in a kinder,gentler time before the CIA was really developed as such or as we know it today and wish we didn't. To convey this, Alan Arkin dresses in much  softer wardrobe, wool tweed overcoat and fashionable hat right down to the little feather in the hat-band, and as  (George Kraft) says things like this:

" The Brotherhood of the Walking Wounded. It's the largest organization in the world. You don't even know it exists until you're in it. You get your membership card when you lose the one thing that gives your life any meaning, the thing that binds you together. The thing that holds the group in one piece is the fact that the members are absolutely incapable of speaking to one another."

So unless harrie tells me that Alan wasn't really the OSS man but that was someone else I'm used to seeing from the Golden Age of Television like Martin Balsam, and that Arkin really was the Soviet Spy who dressed in an outfit like Art Carney in the Honeymooners on the Jackie Gleeson Show (and I've got to believe harrie because she is the ultimate Alan Arkin fan), I'll confess, this was not whom I was watching in this film. I will have to watch it again to clarify the Arkin input and this is ultimately difficult to do because this is a heavy movie, much heavier than most Americans even want to think about.

Which is why I  would not recommend it as a double bill with Das Leben der Anderen. Now that you've pointed out to me, yes, these are two films on a similar theme, spying and/or who spies on us, very apropo to the time in which we are living at present because the good guys lose.

Yes, I'll confess, I was watching Nick Nolte, who is the bonafide best actor to convey what it is like to be a German-American passing for ein Deutscher in residence during the Third Reich doing his duty for the Fatherland; a case of real double-duty.
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« Reply #459 on: April 12, 2008, 10:22:21 AM »

RE the Jeff Bridges question:

For some reason, I'm thinking of Bridges in "The Fisher King" -- the lines could have been part of his dialog with the schizo guy played by Robin Wms.  But I don't think he would have said "moron" but more likely "psycho" or similar.  So my WAG isn't a very good one.

Or it could be that film where his friend is the crippled Vietnam vet.

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« Reply #460 on: April 12, 2008, 10:25:40 AM »

Yeah, I'm changing my WAG to "Cutter's Way" -- John Heard, the crazed vet, wants to expose this wealthy guy he thinks is the killer of this young woman, and Bridges initially doesn't want any part of it.  And I can see Bridges calling him a moron, and Heard saying I love this guy. 

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« Reply #461 on: April 12, 2008, 03:40:01 PM »

barton, you know that adage about your first instinct being correct 99% of the time? It might apply here.  Don't know exactly why I think so, but I just don't hear Cutter telling anyone he "loves this guy."  Or (loves) anyone, for that matter.
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« Reply #462 on: April 12, 2008, 03:44:36 PM »

madupont, I'm not the ultimate Alan Arkin fan;  I just enjoy his work and used to count his change back to him.  Didn't Arkin play the Soviet guy who outs Nick Nolte?  It's been a while, so I should probably look it up.  I'm no fan of Nick Nolte, always thought he was way overrated; but I thought he was excellent in Mother Night. Surprised the crap out of me.
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« Reply #463 on: April 12, 2008, 05:59:36 PM »

Harrie, it just seemed like Cutter, who wouldn't say "I love this guy" too freely, you're right -- does say it, maybe drunkenly, about Bridges.  Aw heck, I don't know....seems like a blind squirrel will find a nut once in a while.

I should rent Mother Night.  Don't know how I've missed it.

 
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« Reply #464 on: April 12, 2008, 07:18:48 PM »

Trust your first instincts.
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