Popular Music

[kidcarter8]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/27/mia.music.video/index.html?hpt=Sbin

I have never heard of this artist - and unlike the sheep that will follow along (increasing her popularity off something so vile) - I will strike her from my memory ASAP.

[knoxharrington]

Youtube yanked the MIA video.  I can't judge the video, not having seen it.  One thing, though -- if it's a brilliant subversive political statement, why does she sing it in English -- sounds like it's being aimed at an American audience.  Which sounds more like making money than being subversive?

 

[madupont]

knoxharrington,
"Austerlitz pointed out that the video's director is the son of Costa Gavras, a noted filmmaker whose work has also blended politics and entertainment".

I've posted on her previously in the music fora.

[madupont]

http://motherjones.com/politics/2009/02/mia-has-baby-boy-gets-called-terrorist

[madupont]

kidcarter 8    It is the genocide of the people of Ceylon that is terrible.

Here's my original post:

madupont
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/02/mia-has-baby-boy-gets-called-terrorist#comments

Who was doing the calling "Terrorist!" of this Sri Lankan native? Why none other than our friendly former posting host The New York Times. I can understand how they broke it off, between the managing editor and the insipidly non-committal Public Editor that WSJ either forced upon them or, had not-screened(?)--or, was the Times just imploding when not getting their facts straight about the invasiveness of the fiscal interests taking them over, nor their inability to identify with accuracy the connections whenever some inept staffer got a mad on.
But when they allow themselves the gratuity of labeling someone a terrorist, I try to identify a familiar name to be sure the cast of characters makes sense from the heir-apparent's lineage in a family that has been more supportive of Manhattan and contributive in a way that The New York Times would seem to be utterly blase about.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bronfman,_Jr.

                           or, you  can read this version, if it seems simpler; I think wiki gives you the gritty on the money aspect far better but to each their own.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1808820656/bio

or, try this:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0108226/bio

(Yes, I know, she only made but one movie but she is the grandmother who is the mother of M.I.A.'s husband Ben [whether you are used to calling him Mr. Brewer or Mr. Bronfman; whether you are a music fan or just cognizant of the family social linkage beginning in Montreal via Manhattan to L.A.] )

Here's The New York Times article that started it all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/world/asia/11mia.html

http://community.nytimes.com/article/comments/2009/02/11/world/asia/11mia.html?s=1&pg=1

 
 
   
 
 
 
 

 

[madupont]

kidcarter8

I believe I wrote to you about this writer before, probably in another forum here at EFE.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0648546/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0648546/bio

Note the remark about his school mates calling him: Kip
Which was the name he gave to the character of the Sikh sapper in,
The English Patient.

This portrayal in TEP should appeal to you if you followed the after-talk about post-Oscars, about that other Canadian* James Cameron whose wife Katheryn Bigelow won for The Hurt Locker, a story-line which resembles the sapper incidents that occur in The English Patient where Kip lost his  British cohort during a detonation in an Italian village as they are moving to take back Montecasino from the Germans (one of whom is played by Raf Fiennes/The English Patient who is amnesiac from a plane crash and does not remember that he is  Hungarisch Count Lazlo de Almasy, former North African explorer and cartographer(and spy fo the Germans). His nurse, played by Juliette Binoche, is a Canadian nurse whom Ondaatje wrote into his short novel:The English Patient, when he lived in the same Ontario as James Cameron, after leaving Sri Lanka where he was considered a Dutch half-caste.

However,'Awarded the Kiriyama Pacific Rim Book Prize, the Prix Medicis, the Governor General's Award and the Giller Prize for his novel, "Anil's Ghost" '

This was read at the nytimes.com in Book Forums, shortly before I got there, I believe; and it would tell you more about the situation of the long ongoing war that motivates Mia's work.

There is another very popular (at least with musicians) Tamil singer who is completely a beauty by comparison to Mia; very exotic and provocative in the traditional Asian style of the Sub-continent and its Ceylon island appendage.  She's popular with a younger generation out on the West Coast, those in about their mid-thirties,etc.  When I remember her name, will get back to you because actually  she sings jazz and other more  downbeat style of music written by her husband who is (as "they say") Caucasian.

[madupont]

Youtube yanked the MIA video.  I can't judge the video, not having seen it.  One thing, though -- if it's a brilliant subversive political statement, why does she sing it in English -- sounds like it's being aimed at an American audience.  Which sounds more like making money than being subversive?

 

Actually, she doesn't have to make money, as the wife of a Bronfman heir.
Youtube yanked it because "we" are not supposed to support indigenous revolutionary movements against former Colonial regimes in Asia and those other indigenes who "conservatively" support their former Colonial masters whose role they inherited( a kind of Goldman Sachs role to ravage the money); whence they supply terrorism against the other indigenous attempting to liberate their country who get called/labeled "Terrorist" for their efforts.  If Rush Limbaugh knew about this long drawn out and ongoing liberation movement, he would be on the side of the suppressors.

My remarks February, a year ago were referring to the fact that the Bronfmans supplied the first money to pull Manhattan out of the previous teetering on the brink of oblivion which the then owners and management of The New York Times would not recognize since they think of themselves as independently wealthy (in which case, we would still all be over at the defunct site posting instead of here since the take over by Rupert Murdoch).

Bronfman money was infused where it was directed by the analyst who saved Manhattan from going under and then retired before the Conservative administrations of the US government stole or lost any more wealth under the watch of that senile old man,Alan Greenspan, who turned a blind eye to what the Street got away with under Bush 2 Junior version which fought "charge account" Wars for which we will have to pay the accumulated interest. This of course is exactly what MIA.s message is fighting against repeating the massive deaths such as Kissinger brought to that other colony further east known as East Timor (Timor L'este) under the replacement White House administration that followed the  Nixon impeachment when we needed a puppet regime in this country under the guise that it was Democratically elected  for the Nixon administration in the form of his V.P. who became President Ford.

[barton]

Maud:  Youtube yanked it because "we" are not supposed to support indigenous revolutionary movements against former Colonial regimes in Asia....

I suspect Youtube yanked because it shows a child's brains being blown out, and similar graphic violence.   I'm not saying you're wrong, that there couldn't be a political subtext regarding her pro-Tamil Tiger opinions and polemicism -- just that YouTube has squeamish policies about real people getting snuffed.  If I submitted a video of me strangling my neighbor, the one with the new subwoofer, it might be a useful social commentary (not to mention a real service to society!) but they still wouldn't accept it.

     

[madupont]

Maud:  Youtube yanked it because "we" are not supposed to support indigenous revolutionary movements against former Colonial regimes in Asia....

I suspect Youtube yanked because it shows a child's brains being blown out, and similar graphic violence.   I'm not saying you're wrong, that there couldn't be a political subtext regarding her pro-Tamil Tiger opinions and polemicism -- just that YouTube has squeamish policies about real people getting snuffed.  If I submitted a video of me strangling my neighbor, the one with the new subwoofer, it might be a useful social commentary (not to mention a real service to society!) but they still wouldn't accept it.

     

Exactly. Now, if you could only sing.  Congratulations on your daughter's talent, by the by; am I to assume that she inherited that from her mother whereas the literary lyric talent is your contribution?

[Yankguy1]

Lowell George was almost Duane's equal on the slide guitar.

[Kam]

In late August 2008, Madonna covered Pantera's "A new level" at the end of one of her songs.  
Insane.  The crowd probably had no clue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5coRmYYAlY&NR=1

It was a few days after the birthday of the deceased Pantera guitarist... who was killed on stage when a deranged fan got up on stage and shot him point blank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimebag_Darrell#Death

[jbottle]

Re-watched SNL last night and saw the Vampire Weekend again, their second song ("Cousins" is great) was even better, "Giving Up the Gun," if you have any interest in indie pop with some lyrical depth, check it out, beautiful song.

[Kam]

That's why i'm easy
I'm easy like Sunday morning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv9UM4zis1M

[Lhoffman]

Re-watched SNL last night and saw the Vampire Weekend again, their second song ("Cousins" is great) was even better, "Giving Up the Gun," if you have any interest in indie pop with some lyrical depth, check it out, beautiful song.

Good song...but I don't get the video.   The girl as tennis player is a distraction because it's clear that she doesn't play tennis.   If you hold your racquet that way, you hit into the net and you get a big bruise on your forearm.   Maybe the point is that she sucks but she keeps going on, but for me it doesn't work.

On the other hand, their video on Cape Cod is very funny.   Guy's vacationing on cape cod with a bunch of preppies  (lyrical references to the Colors of Benetton) when his goth girlfriend shows up.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wHl9qRsMzw&feature=related

[barton]

I rarely watch 2 1/2 Men, but caught last night's and noticed that the actual band members of ZZ Top made a cameo appearance, beards and all, as themselves.   


(Knox -- your ZZ Top mention, over in Film, reminded me...)