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« Reply #585 on: August 26, 2007, 12:45:13 PM »

lulu,re:#596

I fondly remember Miss Odetta, at the time, although in the late Fifties, she was married to her manager(and then,after 1961, went to see her play--Nancy Mannigoe, directed by Tony Richardson[who may or may not have been Vanessa Redgrave's husband at that precise moment but at some point before he did,Charge of the Light Brigade].  I didn't recall Yves Montand at all, isn't that strange? I disliked Lee Remick and Bradford Dillman too much to spit.

This was of course back then the most recent production of Sanctuary, by Faulkner.
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« Reply #586 on: August 27, 2007, 01:17:43 PM »

LULU--glad but not surprised that you are enjoying Washburn. Haven't had trouble grasping her lyrics, but to me those are icing on the cake in any event.

Odetta--the woman has a voice, but her stylings come across to me as stitled and boring.
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« Reply #587 on: August 27, 2007, 03:13:17 PM »

First time I've heard anyone call Odetta boring.  I like her earlier recordings better, but was pleased with "Lookin' for a Home."
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« Reply #588 on: August 28, 2007, 10:30:25 AM »

re:#585 spinoff from Martha Graham who studied at Denishawn (so did Louise Brooks) with Ruth St.Denis and Ted Shawn who bought what was to become Jacob's Pillow,in 1931.  Here is what it originally was:

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/08/20/arts/20070820_WINGS_SLIDESHOW_6.html

A safe-house on the Underground Railway, today known as Perry Farm
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« Reply #589 on: August 28, 2007, 11:41:08 AM »

dzmas--just goes to show you...there is a first time for everything. The lady bores me to tears...just contrast her with Sweet Honey, Ruthie Foster, or any other number of singers who inject true spirit into their presentations!!
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« Reply #590 on: August 28, 2007, 11:48:26 AM »

dzmas--just goes to show you...there is a first time for everything. The lady bores me to tears...just contrast her with Sweet Honey, Ruthie Foster, or any other number of singers who inject true spirit into their presentations!!


I think that is mostly because she sings an "older style", less upbeat, more mournful, none the less a style of "spirituals" from church singing that later became incorporated in the Blues as keyed to it or vice-versa; but, I know what you mean, if you are used to one thing,the other thing won't do.
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« Reply #591 on: August 28, 2007, 12:50:37 PM »

Its not that madu. I like lots of older style singers. It is because she is so overly meticulous and fussy in pronouncing every damned syllable of every damned word. She robs the music of its power and vitality.
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« Reply #592 on: August 28, 2007, 12:53:52 PM »

Now you've gone too far.  To say that Odetta robs music of its power and vitality is just plain nuts.  Obviously, you don't like her cinci, but don't put her down like that.
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« Reply #593 on: August 28, 2007, 04:36:00 PM »

Hmmmmm....your command is my duty? Yeah, right. She is second rate, at best. You like her, fine.
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« Reply #594 on: August 28, 2007, 10:10:31 PM »

My PBS station had a special on Stax Records a few weeks ago and I'm just getting around to watching it. Wonderful, wonderful stuff. Otis Redding was just a lucky pickup for them; he was a roadie for some other artist and begged for a chance to do an audition. Wow'ed them.
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« Reply #595 on: August 29, 2007, 03:42:48 AM »

Sad hearing all the bad news surrounding Amy Winehouse. The young woman has loads of talent and I think Back in Black is one of the best albums of 2007, but it seems heroin has taken its toll on the young British star.  However, I was appalled to hear Blake Fielder-Civil's father (Amy's father-in-law) this morning on BBC pleading with listeners to boycott her concerts, not that any are currently scheduled, and not buy any more records.  He has even asked the British music industry to snub her at the Mercury awards.  Whatever Amy's and Blake's problems are, she doesn't deserved to be snubbed. 
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« Reply #596 on: August 30, 2007, 08:09:24 PM »

Jacobs:

We agree to disagree (rare) but I love Odetta.  So, there.


 Smiley

Hope all is well.  Everyone have a great Labor Day and don't labor.
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« Reply #597 on: August 31, 2007, 04:38:51 AM »

Miriam Makeba's breakthrough album,



http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000023ZGH/ref=ord_cart_shr/203-2286297-0228752?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
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« Reply #598 on: August 31, 2007, 04:39:41 AM »

Same to you, lulu. 
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« Reply #599 on: September 01, 2007, 05:47:18 PM »

Jacobs:

Listening to my  favorite folk show, Gene Shay, and some great stuff:  Leo Kottke (Vaseline Machine Gun) with great guitar playing; Taj Mahal (one of the all-time greats) Cakewalk into Town, Fairport Convention.  Nanci Griffith, Boots of Spanish Leather.  One of my favorites, Vincent Black Lightning 1952.  Thompson is one of the all-time great songwriters.  Patty Loveless did a great job on his "Keep  Your Distance."
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