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« Reply #1110 on: July 16, 2007, 05:07:42 PM »

barton, 

Just between you and me, the only reason that LotR could possibly be much better than Potter(which I too was forced to watch as a good hostess) is one main ingredient the other does not have going for it.
Vigo Mortensson.  But it is much more voyeuristic to watch what sounds like a stupid role because of the title: The History of Violence.  And, to think that people around here who praised William Hurt are not aware of what a dumb role he played  by living in Chicago, makes some people hopeless.  At least Vigo had the ability to change his major scene in life; in character of course.

I only say this because Raf Fiennes was a major disappointment as Mordimer.
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« Reply #1111 on: July 16, 2007, 07:19:24 PM »

Funny, I just heard the radio promo for "I now pronounce you Harry & David"  or whatever the names are...  (the new one with Adam Sandler and Kevin James)   and the theme music in the background was Mika's  Grace Kelly   ...not sure what they're getting at there.
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« Reply #1112 on: July 16, 2007, 07:31:19 PM »

Ok...Jason Bourne...Hit or Miss?

I had no expectations whtsoever when I saw the first one -- hadn't heard a word about it, I just found myself in the theater because my wife likes Matt Damon.

I loved it. 

It starts out with some good mystery nuggets that have you interested but not necessarily "hooked."  Somehow his stature does not lead you to see him as particularly menacing, but I felt they totally had you believing after the scene when he disarms the Polezei in the Park in Berlin.  I distinctly recall sitting up straighter in my seat as if to say "now you've got my attention."

I still whip out the video just to watch the one scene where he takes out "The Professor"  (Clive Owen) in the snow covered meadow. "Do you ever get the headaches?"

I had a bit of trouble with Franka Potente, but that was my only complaint and it is Franka ly a minor one...  Smiley

Big Hit in my household...we are all anxiously waiting for #3
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« Reply #1113 on: July 16, 2007, 07:38:47 PM »

I was nervous about the sequel, but was pleasantly surprised.  One of the best examples of matching music to mood in this genre that I can remember.

How about when he's talking to Pamela Landy (Joan Allen) and casually asks if that girl that used to work on Treadstone can be the agent to meet him on the bridge.  Ms Landy says,  "I don't know if I can find her" and Borne says, "Sure you do, she's standing right next to you"  and the whole room full of people spin around to look out the window, realizing for the first time that he has been watching them the entire time they've been on the phone.

He is The Shadow and James Bond rolled into one.
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« Reply #1114 on: July 16, 2007, 08:29:37 PM »

I liked the first 2 "Bourne"s and the 3rd one has Paddy Considine in it, so mark it.  I liked "Dead Man's Shoes" a lot, and he was funny in "Hot Fuzz", so I'm glad to see him get a good opportunity like this.  Hopefully he won't be under-utilized or whatever like the great Jean Reno was in "Ronin".   
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« Reply #1115 on: July 16, 2007, 09:06:19 PM »

So, "Captivity" seems like an encouraging summer flick, I mean, "torture porn," yeah, I'll have a Milk Duds, Large FIZZBEV so I can, uh, go watch the new torture porn movie because that is the GENRE THAT I'M INTO.  Nevermind that I'm thirtysomething and don't have a date or even a BUDDY MOVIE FRIEND.  No, it's not quite that GENRE.  This is a genre, not fully understood for the REALLY ALIENATED, like central casting for a serial killer movie, all in acid-washed jean shorts, old metal tees, high tops.  It's a FILM FOR AND ABOUT WINNERS, and really what not a lot of people understand are the CATHARTIC MOMENTS where we AS A SOCIETY PURGE ourselves of a lot of negative energy.  Finally, Hollywood has found a GENRE FOR ME, this new creative tableau known commonly as TORTURE PORN.  This is too much of an art movie to be a blockbuseter, but at least somebody in HOLLYWOOD is BALLSY.  I mean, when you have a cave underneath your otherwise normal looking suburban home, where is that movie for you?  Harry Potter?  HARDLY.  Transformer?  I already have a TRANS AM AND SKV ("serial killer van," my own joke, you know, the WHITE VAN WITH NO WINDOWS and MAGNETIC BUSINESS SIGN), uh, "Ratatouille," no thanks.  Finally, with a serious mainstream art director like Rolang Joffe, Hollywood has discovered a new genre, like BUDDY COP, or SUSPENSE/COMEDY, but in this case it's more artistic, and it's TORTURE PORN.  Whip out those AIR JORDANS, muscle tees, and don't worry about showering or anything, we'll all be there, you know, 35, never had a girlfriend, voted most likely to shoot up the high school, yeah, you know, real marginal types that come out of the woodwork for real ART.  So, I'll see you there, I'll be the one in the FRONT ROW.  You'll be the other four.
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« Reply #1116 on: July 16, 2007, 09:31:08 PM »

Oh, yeah, and "Beerfest" is pretty funny, or REALLY FUNNY depending on if you thought "Supertroopers" was pretty funny or REALLY FUNNY or if you thought Broken Lizard's [Whatever the Island One], can't think, long day, but yeah, Beerfest celebrates it's threadbare plot, has boobs every 15 min. and otherwise pleases the middle-aged or so FRAT-BOY SENSE OF HUMOR, no but really, it's as wise a send-up of the t(*)(*)ty-beer movie as we are likely to see, but the main fun is how they don't stick strictly to a formula the way more disappointing the last gag was...if you are a fan of the genre, you know that the setup for a bad joke can be as disappointing and boring as it gets, but in "Beerfest," the jokes come fast and furious, whether they work or not, but it looks like everyone is having fun and "Farva" figures in prominently, but all of them are funny...anyway, it's that Spring Break Formula of SAVE THE PRISTINE PARTY LODGE from EVIL DEVELOPERS, except it revolves around a BEER FORMULA...anyway, there are worst ways to spend and hour and a half and I should know.
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« Reply #1117 on: July 16, 2007, 09:37:44 PM »

No, I really should know...

It's all permutations of make out with good looking/ugly chick

.....have epiphany or alienate friends and family.....

.....puke on your housepet or declare your candidacy for Governor at every wedding reception.....say "yeah, but are those two things really mutually-exclusive?" before passing out in the driveway.....

Three acts......not necessarily in that order, shuffle, repeat......

Please know that whatever the squall,

I am your huckleberry, dear chasm,

Sincerely yours,

jbottle.
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« Reply #1118 on: July 16, 2007, 10:15:32 PM »

Not at all, I think both films plow a lot of the same ETHICAL TERRITORY.  I'm looking forward to the next TORTURE PORN FILM FROM ROLAND JOFFE the way the pubescent teen circles the building for HP.  Sure, it's a newer genre than FANTASY, but hey, if Hollywood weren't creating new audiences how would the cineplex quit hemmoraging movies, "Music & Lyrics," uh, no.  Not that TORTURE PORN is about to become as ubiquitous as the CHICK FLICK, too arty, think of the evolution INDEPENDENT FILM had to take in order to morph into MAINSTREAM FARE, same way TORTURE PORN WITH ROLAND JOFFE, it's the way Hardee's made meat sexy again, you know, for the kids.
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« Reply #1119 on: July 16, 2007, 11:25:17 PM »

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2007/CAPTV.php

So, "Captivity" does $4M over three days in 1,000 theaters, and supposedly horror fans are already dialed in.....WTF???

A $400 per theater Sunday...can you imagine that crowd, that's basically four shows and 10-12 people per show. 

I'm tempted to actually go, but as a journalist, not that I'm a journalist, but I'm not the type to go see TORTURE PORN, I mean, did you see the way everyone felt dirty just seeing the ROLAND JOFFE FILM???

I almost feel slightly filthy just writing about it and not even seeing it.  As soon as I leave this keyboard I am going to literally take a shower because "Captivity" makes me feel dirty just from reading about other people going to see it.  I mean, this is the new cultural dividing line:  Those who felt like taking a shower after seeing or reading about someone seeing "Captivity," and those who wallow in the grime and smut and degredation, I think this may be the best cultural dividing point since "60 Min." and "America's Funniest Home Videos," I mean, dial in Elisha Cuthbert's rasberry, and imagine the rasberry on Roland Joffe's face!!!  Idiots.....some people don't know art when you slap them right in the face with it.....this is what Joffe understands and what TORTURE PORN AFICIANADOS accept with dirty fingernails and unkempt couture, hair, Jordan's, etc.
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« Reply #1120 on: July 16, 2007, 11:27:56 PM »

Did I just call myself a TORTURE PORN AFICIANADO???  Damn, that feel good, I mean, to you know, belong to something.
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« Reply #1121 on: July 17, 2007, 01:04:39 AM »

Oilcan, your new avatar is much more pleasant to look at.

No problemo, bosox.
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« Reply #1122 on: July 17, 2007, 01:07:21 AM »

Did I just call myself a TORTURE PORN AFICIANADO???  Damn, that feel good, I mean, to you know, belong to something.

The horror of it all.
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« Reply #1123 on: July 17, 2007, 10:40:35 AM »

Oilcan, Whisky, Jose Feliciano -- ya got no problems.   The dubbing for tv version has some pretty funny substitutions, which has the kidnappers conversing at times like the Hardy boys.  I'd never heard the word "fooze" or "foozling" before seeing the dubbed version.

"Little Children" arrives in the mail today.  Aside from seeing some Winslet skin, I have no agenda in renting this. 





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« Reply #1124 on: July 17, 2007, 10:53:42 AM »

Oilcan, Whisky, Jose Feliciano -- ya got no problems.   The dubbing for tv version has some pretty funny substitutions, which has the kidnappers conversing at times like the Hardy boys.  I'd never heard the word "fooze" or "foozling" before seeing the dubbed version.

"Little Children" arrives in the mail today.  Aside from seeing some Winslet skin, I have no agenda in renting this. 


Speaking of Ms. Winslet, she and Leonardo DiCaprio are filming around here, too -- a flick called Revolutionary Road (at least, right now that's what it's called).  No big sightings, though -- this film company isn't as outgoing as some of the others.  If I do run into Ms. Winslet, barton, I promise to pass along salutations -- though I believe Sam Mendes is directing this one. 
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