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harrie
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« Reply #1305 on: July 27, 2007, 01:05:28 PM »

And I know everyone's lukewarm on Raising Arizona, but I like it a lot. 
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« Reply #1306 on: July 27, 2007, 02:09:55 PM »

Raising Arizona is fine ... for twelve year olds. Just kidding. Fourteen, maybe. Wink

Speaking of Johannsons, what about Ingemar, the boxer. He was Swedish, wasn't he?
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« Reply #1307 on: July 27, 2007, 02:22:21 PM »


>>I am a firm believer in the star system, but I prefer the five-star system with halves included, basically a ten point scale that runs from ZERO STARS or TURKEY to *****.


I dislike 10-point systems. We have a local reviewer to goes from A+ to F-, which is actually a 12-point system. I have trouble getting a handle where the movie is when you there are so many stops. A movie rater ought to take a better stand. I prefer a four-point system where halves are used, but only sparingly---for a tiebraker, say.  Or a 5-point system and a substar for anitpathies. That's six stops, should be plenty to make up one's mind about a film, IMO.
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« Reply #1308 on: July 27, 2007, 04:25:18 PM »

I think they ought to have at least 5 stars in at least 5 different categories, with 1/4 point intervals and a half caf with a twist...

that way you know where they stand and why ... sort of ... and you can stay awake ...but just long enough to finish the review
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« Reply #1309 on: July 27, 2007, 04:32:44 PM »

i'm actually old enough to remember seeing the ingemar johannson-floyd patterson fight [or was it rocky marciano who fought the smokin' swede?].
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« Reply #1310 on: July 28, 2007, 12:55:17 AM »

Trojanhorse, I read something remarkable out of the corner of my eye about Springsteen, and his sidekick Gus Van Zant(or is that Van Sant?) and have no idea where  but it explains much, like for instance, The Sopranos. Bruce and Gus both have Italian mothers but Dutch names. I guess this might have been par for a certain era in New Jersey but who would have guessed?
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« Reply #1311 on: July 29, 2007, 09:06:30 AM »

I'm sorry, but I have to -- 

Steven Van Zant = freaky-looking musician and distinctive-looking actor

Gus Van Sant = director (Good Will Hunting, Psycho [the color version])
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« Reply #1312 on: July 29, 2007, 01:22:05 PM »

Raising AZ is suitable fare for all ages, provided that, when it comes to funny-shaped balloons, you think that round is funny.

Saw Hairspray and enjoyed immensely.  Haven't seen the stage version, and I guess the couple of songs not in the film but played during the credits ("He's Got Cooties" was one of them) were performed in the stage version.  Though the film is too fluffy and cute to really deal with political and social issues surrounding racial integration, it manages to sweep you up in a big warm interracial hug anyway and, going by the crowd I watched it with, a fine time was had by all.  The younger members of the audience may not have recognized John Waters as the neighborhood flasher in the neighborhood song at the opening, nor been much aware that the fat mom was played by the star of Grease and Sat. Night Fever and Battleship Earth, but they heard some fine music and lyrics and saw some stunning dance numbers.  No doubt they may have cringed, or averted the eyes, when such ancients as Michelle Pfeiffer and Christopher Walken went into a clinch, ditto Walken and Travolta, but some of them, through a cage of fingers, may have noticed that the man who secreted a wristwatch in his ass in  Pulp Fiction seems little worse for wear and dances gracefully.  As for the ingenue Nikki Bronsky...fat Jewish chicks rule! 

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« Reply #1313 on: July 29, 2007, 02:51:13 PM »

Yeah but skinny Jewish chicks are better, I am still a torch-bearer for one in grad school, not too skinny, and shapely, and lovely with a beautiful smile and voice, it give me the ouch to this very day.

But anyway, I guess Glenn Ford was the biggest thing in Hollywood for about 4-8 yrs., and I liked the Mexican treasure adventure called "Plunder the Sun" which I couldn't find in my five-star (read appropriate) movie book.  It was on TMC I thing which on occasion unearths treasures that had been previously in the vault, which is I guess what happened here.  It a perfectly enjoyable Warner's Bros. entertainment and had some economical and therefore complicated shots that got a lot done in 40 seconds when they really didn't have to go to all that effort except I think there was a point where moving a camera around for a well orchestrated shot made more money-sense than moving a camera around to accomodate the scene making sense.  Continuity is harder obviously when you are editing shots together, but I just make this observation because now it seems like directors get patted on the back making people talk through a two minute scene, whereas, that's there job, and with Jack Warner breathing down your neck why would you let everybod go on break for 15 (read45) min. when you can orchestrate a shot and nobody cares whose cigarette is long or short, but most importantly whether the mood and feel of the scene makes sense. 

Also:  I like Glenn Ford even though he has a sort of placid and boring romantic hero quality; he's not Bogart in terms of being interesting-looking, but I guess chicks dig him as he's clasically handsome, but anyway I'm looking to the IMDB to investigate the film further and to see whether the Simpsons movie doubled what the Guru, Gitesh Pandya, predicted, and came in closer to my number.  I'm guessing inbetween, because as a number-muncher you have to give the Guru some credit on a large-budget film not to be completely wack, but there I go again using hip-hop slang from the mid-80's.
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« Reply #1314 on: July 29, 2007, 02:59:49 PM »

Nevermind.  He "Costnered" (read arrow splitting arrow in "Robin Hood" w/midwestern accident no apology being the greatest WTF, pleasure, and respek for KC when in such an '80's way, I like to think, was arrogant enough to assume that nobody knows who Robin Hood is anyway, so I'm going to talk the way I TALK, lol) the number if I recall as "Simpsons" did in the 70's, this round goes (curtsey and bow) to the number muncher and self-proclaimed "Box Office Guru Gitesh Pandya. 

It's a tough game, and it takes it's toll on a body.  So, nice work Gitty, see you in the next frame Tesh.
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« Reply #1315 on: July 29, 2007, 03:09:20 PM »

Actually he said 54 instead of 72 actuals and I said 117 so he missed by 18 and I, going with a mere wetted finger to the air adjudging popular whimsy among fizz and slurp crowds, missed by some $36M.

I would be embarassed exept for the disastrous prediction made by an NYTFF supposed "hollywood insider" where he said Inspector Gadget would tank and I said that it would open at around $100M.

I was right, and private joker's credibility and respect was irrevocably damaged.  I did catch a bit of the crud on "Scooby Doo," in fact I still have nights where I sit up straight in bed and scream "Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!" and the sigboth says "Scooby Doo again, baby?" and I shiver and say "Maybe I got too greedy baby..."  And then I take an X-snack (read Xanax) and go back to bed.
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« Reply #1316 on: July 29, 2007, 03:14:05 PM »

I'm sorry, but I have to -- 

Steven Van Zant = freaky-looking musician and distinctive-looking actor

Gus Van Sant = director (Good Will Hunting, Psycho [the color version])

Mark it Townes Van Zandt - sang the cover of "Dead Flowers" that plays over the end credits of "The Big Lebowski", of some renown as a songwriter, not exactly a lightweight, etc.





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« Reply #1317 on: July 29, 2007, 03:52:12 PM »

So,oilcanboyd23.

Is somebody with a name like Townes van Zandt inevitably Italian on his mother's side? JUST CURIOUS
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« Reply #1318 on: July 29, 2007, 04:32:00 PM »

harrie  re:#1334

"read something remarkable out of the corner of my eye ", so don't be sorry.  It inevitably makes more sense in your version than the story I repeated, accounting for the way Van Zant and Springsteen met as musicians;since, they had a garage band(vz's garage), before they played The Stone Pony in Asbury Park.

Here my mind opted for Gus, sure, why not, Augustus Van Sant; after all I knew a nice Kerry Blue Terrier by that name who was bought by a guy from Bergen County,New Jersey named Fazio.

Somehow, Stefano Van Zant seems just about right  to be retailored into Steven with mark-down suits who gets set up by a director to take the fall of being the actual killer of Adriane(Christopher Moltisanto's girl-friend who ends up shot in the woods).  Personally, I stayed out of my woods, when I lived behind Bay Head on the way to to Brick at what was apparently the farthest northerly scrim of the Pine Barrens but I did have an interesting visitor named Rocco who stopped because I was gardening like Sylvana Mangano. So I phoned my"godmother"at first opportunity and asked her what to do with my persistent visitor. Della said,"Call the police". That worked, they traced his license plate.

Now,personally I can't think Gus Van Sant is much of a director,considering those two films; and my idea of a"freaky-looking musician and distinctive-looking actor" would be Nicholas Cage.

I did draw the line about entertaining any notion of stopping in for a drink at The Stone Pony simply because the feeling is you are supposed to genuflect before you get up on your bar stool, simply because this is where it all began.

I'd much rather put on my black light wool with a spritz of Coco Chanel and go shopping at the green-grocer in Colts Neck, where Springsteen has to buy his produce too but usually he sends his old lady and the big white dog in the jeep.

Now, moving on....
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« Reply #1319 on: July 29, 2007, 05:12:28 PM »

barton re:#1335

"Though the film is too fluffy and cute to really deal with political and social issues surrounding racial integration, ..."  and, " The younger members of the audience may not have recognized John Waters ..." and,
" dances gracefully". You are referring to Christopher Walken, of course? I never thought much of Travolta,the dancer, whereas Walken is a professional. Ever notice the     timing   of his   lines?

The theme of Hairspray from the original Waters was because John growing up in Baltimore was really upset about the strict line of segregation that prevailed while he was deciding his sexual orientation. Believe me, I had my General Motors aunty to fall back on about such choice tidbits and for  a reality check, because Baltimore was her favourite place to live, even compared to Central Park West since she didn't know about that yet and Baltimore was a step up(she never forgot the white stoops) from Little Rock.

It made sense to me because I had a grade school friend who looked very much like John Waters but nothing that plain and straight-forward in a name; it had to be considerably more affected to sound like JW looks. Waters was apparently very affected by American Band Stand and what the dances looked like, depending on whether the Baltimore dancers were white or black. Enough said.

By the way, the first John Waters film that I ever saw was mistakenly considered to be an Art Film by a Midwestern art museum that relied on a local artist for inside information on Film and I think they may have been really surprised at what popped up on screen although they waited it out because they could claim it as, "classical art", with many "classic" nudes reclining about in various poses which used to be called,"flagrante delicto". Nobody copped to it but just sat it out as an interesting exposure to pornographic art that made it look like Waters had understudied with director Passolini. Maybe he had, for all we know. Or, maybe somebody just slipped another reel into the can, by way of a joke.
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