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« Reply #2235 on: October 19, 2007, 11:12:21 AM »

I am about to put Bug in the player.

And I have to say -- even though the redbox thing was part of what killed my beloved Tommy K's (the old local rental guy), they aren't half bad.   A buck a night to rent, and you can pick up at one location and return to another. So far, nothing too bad about them.
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« Reply #2236 on: October 19, 2007, 12:26:04 PM »



Many of us didn't really yet know who she was, at the time.

yeah, no, I remember her from when I first saw Dead Calm.  She's not someone you tend to forget.  Did she play the role of the girlfriend of the gangster?  I'll be darned but I just don't remember it being her...



As Nicole said in character as Drew Preston, "I'm not his girl, he's my gangster." That is the Nicole Kidman whom we "didn't really yet know...at the time". She appeared to be quite different than we'd previously seen her appear. As Drew Preston, she is very elegant, soignee but uninhibited to say the least; not entire strange because she comes from an immensely wealthy family, with good legal and political connections, which fosters this aloofness quite often in their young; she has more or less acquired Dutch Schultz as her "toy".

I recall having seen,Dead Calm, on tv -- or, maybe, I just think that I saw it, that long ago. But the image that Nicole Kidman presented in those two Tom Cruise picts, where she got a lot of publicity from the tv "magazines, was this "home-spun girl on the frontier", albeit with the stunning red hair and mischievous eyes.

Suddenly this very sophisticated film role, having been offered to her, is just lying there on her plate.

To the viewer, just following where the visuals take you from your seat in the audience, suddenly you are in the position if not exactly that of a peeping-tom but of one who accidentally glimpses what they know they weren't expected to observe much less expecting to see; and this has a weird psychological effect of repressing the memory of ever having seen it. Likely, when viewed again currently, it wouldn't be as surprising anymore. 

Quite a few directors have since taken advantage of her ability to do this; I believe it was done in the theater when she appeared in:The Blue Room(?) as well as Stanley Kubrick's film,Eyes Wide Shut, which sent me running for a reread of Arthur Schnitzler's,"Traumnovelle".  The latter was a physician friend of Sigmund Freud who used to get together with him in their Vienna coffee house days, and Schnitzler would discuss his cases in family-practice, treating sexually transmitted diseases, and would discuss the deleterious after-effects with Freud for his opinion. Schnitzler, however, also was a writer and he wrote plays based on this material; which, believe it or not, Nicole Kidman naturally gravitated toward as theatrical roles. The Blue Room may have been one of his creations but I'm not sure.  I know that she surprised Broadway.

Dr. Schnitzler has a lengthy list of film and tv credits as a writer,other that his theatrical credits, with Eyes Wide Shut being just one of them updated to our period of time and place.

Now, I am getting interested in going back to that E.L. Doctorow book(he's best known for,Ragtime) which kind of suprised me as being the source of Kidman in the film, it just didn't seem like Doctorow on first glance although I recall the book's publicity. I am now quite curious about some aspects of the part played by Kidman, that are momentarily referred to in the reviews at imdb but then dropped. There is one Frenchman at the Sorbonne in Paris whose review is explicitly different than the American viewers and who points out her husband was gay with reference to Nicole's Drew Preston aquiring Dutch Schultz as a gigolo. For the period in the 1930s, it seems reasonable.

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« Reply #2237 on: October 19, 2007, 02:22:26 PM »

Okay, desdemona, I've seen Bug.  When bart's ready, I'm ready.  And anyone else, of course.  (Though I have to admit, it was a little easier to take a hit for the team by watching Hooper a couple of years ago.)

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« Reply #2238 on: October 19, 2007, 03:41:27 PM »

Haven't walked out of a movie since Addam's Family....

Wow - I thought "The Addams Family" was great.   I thought there were like 50 or more funny jokes in there, and everyone seemed to be on the same page, at the center of which was Raul Julia's charismatic and energetic performance. 
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« Reply #2239 on: October 19, 2007, 03:42:36 PM »

(Though I have to admit, it was a little easier to take a hit for the team by watching Hooper a couple of years ago.)

QUINT

Chief - start that chum line again, willya.

BRODY

Let Hooper take a turn.

QUINT

Hooper drives the boat, Chief.
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« Reply #2240 on: October 19, 2007, 03:46:30 PM »

If only it were that Hooper!
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« Reply #2241 on: October 19, 2007, 04:40:29 PM »

Haven't walked out of a movie since Addam's Family....

Wow - I thought "The Addams Family" was great.   I thought there were like 50 or more funny jokes in there, and everyone seemed to be on the same page, at the center of which was Raul Julia's charismatic and energetic performance. 


I musta been high. Let's see, 1991? Yeah, that was it.

I'll make sure to rent it soon.
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« Reply #2242 on: October 19, 2007, 04:42:30 PM »

I like "Hooper," but "Gator," now that was fun, haw-haw-HAW...

The opening to "The Longest Yard" where he slaps the actress he's sleeping with, makes a drink and then drops her Maserati into the bay as "oooooh that smell..." (I think) is playing, now that is some vintage Burt.
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« Reply #2243 on: October 19, 2007, 04:46:00 PM »

I like "Hooper," but "Gator," now that was fun, haw-haw-HAW...

The opening to "The Longest Yard" where he slaps the actress he's sleeping with, makes a drink and then drops her Maserati into the bay as "oooooh that smell..." (I think) is playing, now that is some vintage Burt.

That actress was one of Bob Barker's Price is Righters, if I do recall correctly.
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« Reply #2244 on: October 19, 2007, 05:27:02 PM »

trojanhorse,

http://tinyurl.com/2vvcne
Ben Brantley's review of --The Blue Room

in The New York Times, Dec.14th.1999
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« Reply #2245 on: October 19, 2007, 05:41:14 PM »

I saw Raul Julia on TV the other night in Moon Over Parador.  I sat and watched it just because I haven't thought of him in so long.

I miss him...
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« Reply #2246 on: October 19, 2007, 06:04:25 PM »

That actress was one of Bob Barker's Price is Righters, if I do recall correctly.

Yes, that was Anitra Ford; she was also rumored to have done a fair share of pornos. 
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« Reply #2247 on: October 19, 2007, 06:45:13 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anitra_Ford

Didn't confirm the porno, but if she has a "S.W.A.T." credit and got slapped by Reynolds, she's a star in my book.
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« Reply #2248 on: October 19, 2007, 07:27:18 PM »

From IMDB:
(Anitra)Ford gave a funny and spirited performance as cheery and sassy free-spirited nymphomaniac actress Terry Rich in Jack Hill's delightful babes-behind-bars romp "The Big Bird Cage." Anitra was likewise excellent and impressive as the alluring Dr. Susan Harris in the fantastic drive-in exploitation classic "Invasion of the Bee Girls." Ford was also memorable as the ill-fated Laura in the offbeat and atmospheric zombie horror shocker "Messiah of Evil."

The porn rumor probably came from her doing some of the above roles -- just B stuff, it looks like.  My brother is/was (who knows any more? I don't) wild about her.
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« Reply #2249 on: October 19, 2007, 11:33:40 PM »

I saw Raul Julia on TV the other night in Moon Over Parador.  I sat and watched it just because I haven't thought of him in so long.

I miss him...

I liked "The Addams Family" and he was my favorite thing about it.

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