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« Reply #3150 on: January 11, 2008, 06:24:23 PM »

Why....why, she's bee-youu-tee-full.  But I'll never get why women with injected lips don't realize how silly they look.
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« Reply #3151 on: January 11, 2008, 07:44:47 PM »

I like how the fashion designer was inspired by the canvas Converse, but other than that (ahem), she looks too skinny.  Crazy thing is the girl had great natural curves, but then, it's LA.  It's like she almost wants to bite the sword that feeds her.

I thought it was funny in the "The ONION" interview how Nina Hartley, who I was photographed with on accident of being on a bachelor party at the same time she was the celeb draw in 1997, it was twenty bucks and we were drunk, we had, literally, Polaroids from going to see Nina Hartley, wait, maybe it wasn't a bachelor party, yeah...but I have only been to strip clubs less than 25 times, and that's not really that bad...

...but I was wondering how that guy from the Polaroid, still getting his "KODACHROME" on..., was still rocking the hard plastic, I had to respect the brother (white guy), but anyway, yeah, I guess the computer has ruined the aspirations of stupid people to write scripts like where there is an evil sci-fi boss who orders his Mars slaves to have sex with dumb guys right off the bus from THE MIDWEST, where the sets and lines are bad, etc., but there is some semblance on non-regression into transgressive monkey sex...it was a moment in time where an idea badly executed was at least an idea...

Hell, once the teen sex comedy came along, which was above board, the guy delivering pizzas to older women, etc., the porn industry had to be like, "they fucked us," that was the bread and butter that we cut our teeth on, FUCK..."

So, we get the cycle of devolution to where now to get aroused I can only watch INDIAN DONKEY PORN when not cashing the checks of a fairly respectable chain of martinizing ventures.

I will not be here at the Ramada Inn, if there still is one, all week.

The worst plastic surgery that I ever saw was the transformation of Mickey Rourke into an older guy trying to be a younger guy by, what, CHEEK IMPLANTS and HAIR SOMEHOW??  I never got it because he was so handsome, why not be a legitimate character actor, because he would've had such a great face for that and I like him.  But I guess it points to the fact that he felt like a beauty object for sale, that when he ceased to be beautiful, wouldn't sell.  Dang, but then when he went whizzing by on his Vespa at 2PM, I just figured he's been out all night and crashed for a second and is going for beers--"bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzttttt"--hilarious. 

In SC, if you have a DUI there seems to be a provision in the law where you can still whizz by on a (non-Vespa) moped with a plastic milk/bev crate on the front and (if you're, lucky?) one on the back, when I lived in questionable neighborhoods, you would hear that faint buzz then full on, and then peer out of the blinds and sure enough, the guy was going to the Indian store for his 12. 
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« Reply #3152 on: January 11, 2008, 09:28:57 PM »

I am watching "9 to 5," what a way to make a Fryunday, but no, it's amazing the parallel, love, that Mike Judd must have for this film, it's also got a lot of long indulgent, Scorcese type shots, in a basically women's lib film with a revolting pig like Dabney Coleman, who, is funny in every thing he does, he looks like something that everyone reviled in the 80's, some arrogant guy in his early '50's or whatever, I love Dabney Coleman.

And then they smoke "Maui Wowee," and we hit the dream sequence, put it in the time capsule with "Modern Problems," you know you want to, and after all, what is dirty if space is dust??
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« Reply #3153 on: January 11, 2008, 10:59:44 PM »

...put it in the time capsule with "Modern Problems," you know you want to...

Best Dabney Coleman:

1. Hot To Trot (broke out the gap-toothed thing)
2. Clifford
3. Modern Problems

And by "Best", I don't mean number of minutes on screen.  I think he's only in "Clifford" for about 3 minutes.   By "Best", I'm looking at the degree to and intensity with which this performance, this role, this moment - just says, "Dabney Coleman".
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« Reply #3154 on: January 11, 2008, 11:12:38 PM »

Oh, and mark it "Hot To Trot" if you catch it on TBS or whatever.

Bobcat Goldthwait plays this loser who inherits a horse named Don, and it can talk.  It's voiced by John Candy.   I think he also inherits an investment company, which is run by Dabney Coleman.

The horse advises Bobcat to invest in this company that makes great oats, and the stock goes through the roof.  I don't remember much else, except that Virginia Madsen is in it, and Dabney Coleman tries to bilk Bobcat out of his stock in the investment company.   Dabney really seems to relish the opportunity to work with the gap-toothed thing. 

It's got a strange score by Danny Elfman.  I'll always watch the end credits just to listen to the music.  Oh, and a young Jim Metzler is in it (evil yuppie who works for Dabney Coleman), so need I say more, etc.

Rabes gives it a nice treatment, even though he fails to acknowledge the Metzler sighting, or the inspired Dabney Coleman work:

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/23738
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« Reply #3155 on: January 11, 2008, 11:28:32 PM »

As much as I like "My Year Of Flops", I think I like "Films That Time Forgot" even more.

Case in point:  http://www.avclub.com/content/node/50985
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« Reply #3156 on: January 12, 2008, 10:31:49 AM »

Isn't it strange how much avclub resembled our own attempt at exiled elbans to have a higher tier of authority in that field>Forgotten Movies,brought to you by Midnight Snacks and your host, Alias Comings?
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« Reply #3157 on: January 12, 2008, 11:38:22 AM »

Saw "Romance and Cigarettes" last night and am really unsure if this quasi-musical comedy from John Turturro is just awful or somehow crazily brilliant.  I certainly can't fault fine perfs from Kate Winslet, James Gandolfini, and Susan Sarandon (plus another droll appearance of Christopher Walken with some of the moves he was polishing in Hairspray) and if you just want to go for the actor's showcasing, it might be worth the ticket.  Winslet plays a mistress, a lewd and crude-mouthed Cockney girl, and shows that she can dance and sing pretty well  -- no progress was made in diminishing my now decade-old crush.  Gandolfini is a blue-collar guy who lives in NYC right at the edge of JFK, and lives in cramped and seedy bungalow with wife (Sarandon) and several daughters who include, somewhat improbably in terms of casting, Mandy Moore.  Various subplots of romance and disaffection ensue, with philosophical chats between Gandolfini and coworker Steve Buscemi.  Various observations about female pudenda and other anatomical matters issue regularly from several characters, and the pros and cons of circumcision are explored.  Not a script for the delicate of sensibility. 

All of the individual elements of this film would make it seem to be a must-see event for indie film fans, as well as Coen brothers fans and, in general, aficionados of the Weird -- yet somehow, I found it not quite adding up, lurching along in its quirky way as interesting failures often do, not quite bringing into focus the gritty lower-class life it's aimed at.  Various scenes, such as the girls in their garage band (well, it plays in the yard, against the backdrop of a vacant field at the edge of a JFK runway), have the feeling of vignettes that perhaps a more experienced director might have cut or somehow remolded.

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« Reply #3158 on: January 12, 2008, 02:58:31 PM »

I think you should take a look at the film that he directed in 1998, Illuminata (about the theatre). And probably,the excellent opera impressario that he played in 2000 released: The Man Who Cried.

Just for the comparison to see what he is getting at and where he is coming from.  It's part of his cultural schtick.  The French have been doing this break-into-song trip for awhile  now, and usually I just hate it because I don't think it does well in French as repartee. But if Michael Gambon and Roberty Downey, jr. could bring it to the screen, singing Pennies from Heaven, then it is worth a try to do a working class comedic opera buffo  on film.

Skip Michael Gambon, I thought that he was in The Singing Detective with Downey!  Christopher Walken did his bit in Pennies from Heaven with Steve Martin and Bernadette Peters.  These film plays were both Dennis Potter.  It's a particular genre, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.  I was surprised it was 2005, if it shows up on my tv, then you were absolutely  probably right about this number. They have all worked together on this madcap nonsense before, Sarandon was willing to do that many times over, particularly good in White Castle, less memorable perhaps in--The Hand that Rocked the Cradle. Gandolfini working with Brad Pitt. Aida Turturro regularly working with brother John or Gandolfini or Sarandon and others in casts with them all round ensemble actors.

Now that I know that Dennis Potter is no relation to Harry Potter, except via Michael Gambon as a link to their last names, I still had to wonder about Sally Potter who enjoys this kind of fling as well because she began as a dancer. No relation as far as I know. She's responsible for Orlando, one of my faves for many different reasons, the star Tilda Swinton of course as well as Quentin Crisp and the author of the original material Vita Sackville-West.

But try and catch her production of: The Tango Lesson, sometime, and you'll see what I mean.
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« Reply #3159 on: January 12, 2008, 03:41:06 PM »

barton, your description is of Romance and Cigarettes is intriguing -- since I enjoy films that are just awful as well as (and sometimes more than) those that are crazily brilliant, this sounds like a must-see.  IIRC, Walken comes by the song and dance routine honestly; I believe he started out with aspirations of dancing, then went into theater.  Or not, maybe it's one of those urban legends.  Plus, I've been watching a lot of Coen brothers lately, and I just enjoy Turturro more every time I see him, whatever the role.
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« Reply #3160 on: January 12, 2008, 05:10:55 PM »

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100604/
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« Reply #3161 on: January 12, 2008, 05:13:45 PM »

Weird, by the same director as "Alan Smithee," but somehow, intrigueing...:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120237/
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« Reply #3162 on: January 12, 2008, 06:28:36 PM »

Short Time was just on -- I'll have to see if it comes around again so I can catch it.  That other one reminds me a bit of good old, faithful http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416243/
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« Reply #3163 on: January 12, 2008, 08:54:27 PM »

LOL...I don't know why that joke gets me every time, I was thinking, wait, what movie is like "Short Time"??, and whammo, nice work.
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« Reply #3164 on: January 12, 2008, 09:05:38 PM »

I think the tempting thing about the submarine film is that, hey, we only have to construct a small set, relatively, so we're in the tank for around $400,000, but then you have to pay Baldwin same thing, and then it really doesn't give you that same claustrophobic or acting theatrics of Washington/Hackman in "Crimson Tide," which is really good and I saw it again recently.

I tried to hate Tony Scott after "Top Gun," because I knew that it was cool to hate "MTV style editing," or whatever, but hell, I like Tony Scott a lot, from CT to "The Last Boy Scout" to, especially, "True Romance," and I grew up to realize that I really don't like Cruise/Wagner, and it has nothing to do with Tones.
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