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« Reply #3285 on: January 24, 2008, 09:25:57 AM »

http://tinyurl.com/38zhs9

Forever young: Heath Ledger and Hollywood's other fallen stars                                                                                 
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 24/01/2008

Heath Ledger asked to be woken next morning

By Mark Chipperfield in Sydney and Tom Leonard in New York                                                                                                                                     
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/24/wledger124.xml#form

This article reveals that the British are a lot more sensible than the New York of East Coast America. Thank God!   It was appalling to read the nytimes and witness that we had finally comes to this hateful level and that it wasn't just the forum trips we have become accustomed to but a whole civilization gone kaput because of criminal insanity.


http://tinyurl.com/3ckx97 Heath Ledger obituary: An actor of promise


http://tinyurl.com/2xt7kp
                                       Heath Ledger dies of 'drug overdose' at 28


http://tinyurl.com/2xlxry

This would appear to be the best video thus far released

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« Reply #3286 on: January 24, 2008, 09:36:59 AM »

True about Sandra Bullock, madupont; she also showed that in Crash.  Like I said, I can't do a fair compare/contrast because I haven't seen both flicks (Capote and Infamous).  Though I like both actresses and most of their work, I'm just accustomed to Keener consistently nailing her characters, using teeny little nuances, etc.  Plus, hers is the performance I have seen.
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« Reply #3287 on: January 24, 2008, 11:59:13 AM »

In "Newhart" Pleshette finally found her place in the pecking order. 

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« Reply #3288 on: January 24, 2008, 12:53:55 PM »

BTW (speaking of tasteless humor), has anyone seen Mr. Woodcock?  If so, would be interested in your take...am looking to deal with winter blahs by means of adding more low-to-middlebrow farces to my netflix queue.

 
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« Reply #3289 on: January 24, 2008, 01:55:31 PM »

...low-to-middlebrow farces to my netflix queue.

Some Low-To-Middlebrow Farces I Liked:

"Captain Ron" - uptight Martin Short inherits a sailboat, spaced-out Kurt Russell skippers it.

"Brain Donors" - modern Marx Brothers-type comedy, with Turturro as Groucho.  It's not a Groucho "impression" or anything, but Turturro is the fast-talking leader of the 3 main characters.  Look for the great Nancy Marchand as the millionaire lady Turturro sweet-talks.

"Clifford" - Martin Short is a 10-year old pain in the ass for his uncle, Charles Grodin.

"Kingpin" - My favorite Farrelly Bros movie, by far, sort of a spoof of "The Color of Money".  I never liked Woody Harrelson much, but he was great in this as the mentor, with Randy Quaid as the prodigy, and Bill Murray was hilarious in a small part as a scumbag pro bowler.

"Drowning Mona" - Nick Gomez directs an ensemble piece about low-lives in a small rural NY town in which everyone had a reason to kill Bette Midler. 
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« Reply #3290 on: January 24, 2008, 02:44:36 PM »

I've seen Captain Ron and, of course, Kingpin, and can endorse that part of your list wholeheartedly.  The Marxbrotherish one sounds like one I'd rent, given my admiration for Nancy Marchand and Turturro.  It puzzles me that I haven't seen Drowning Mona, so I'd probably better add it to my queue, too.  I try to see any decent participle-noun movie that comes along.  Or is it gerund-noun?  No, I think the gerund is when the verb stands alone as a quasi-noun, as in "Tipping is a good idea in restaurants" or "the decline of reading."  In my case, it's the decline of grammar, because now I'm confused.



 
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« Reply #3291 on: January 24, 2008, 03:04:37 PM »

The Marxbrotherish one sounds like one I'd rent, given my admiration for Nancy Marchand and Turturro.   

I read an interview somewhere in which Turturro said he signed on to do "Brain Donors" because he liked the idea of doing a MarxBros-inspired comedy, but he was disappointed in the final product, it missed its mark, etc.   I respectfully disagree with him there, because I thought "Brain Donors" was very funny. 
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« Reply #3292 on: January 24, 2008, 03:11:27 PM »

This was much funnier than I thought it would be, but has the same comic beat as "Ghost World," sorta.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364955/
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« Reply #3293 on: January 24, 2008, 03:24:52 PM »

And oil, enjoyed the terse description of the films you cite, don't think I've seen all of "Brain Donors," though.  Yeah, I've always thought that Woody Harrellson is channelling Paul Newman in "Kingpin," with some of the expressions and non-verbal gesturing.  If I recall the Farrelly's also do the Scorcese move of I guess, backing the camera up while you go from long focus to where the actor's face is in close up as a sort of dramatic reaction shot, but I could be making that up.
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« Reply #3294 on: January 24, 2008, 03:30:19 PM »

If I recall the Farrelly's also do the Scorcese move of I guess, backing the camera up while you go from long focus to where the actor's face is in close up as a sort of dramatic reaction shot...

Good call.  There's also a shot of Harrelson (before he lost his arm) and Bill Murray going down a flight of stairs after their first hustle, which is right out of TCOM.
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« Reply #3295 on: January 24, 2008, 05:11:41 PM »

There's something very funny about the earnest way in which Harrellson mentors a goofy Quaker "natural," like, the kid's got it, and then you sort of imagine a poofy-haired confident Cruise that has to have his brashness in check with a sort of clueless Quaid, it's definitely playing well to our expectations of the Cruise formula as well as specifically to TCOM.  And yet, like with the best of the Farrelly efforts, and the gross-out and poor taste jokes aside, there is still a sweetness in the bond between the two principals that plays almost as heartwarming as straight drama, somehow, as in "There's something about Mary," where Stiller is charmingly goofy despite essentially being a stalker, and Mary winningly charismatic and sweet when sexually desirable was all that was really required, in other words, these movies when they work almost stack the deck against any earnestness with throwaway jokes and bathroom humor, and somehow get there anyway.  What it boils down to I guess are guys who can joke around all day but can't get away from the fact that they are deft at storytelling without pandering to an audience, and genuinely like people.  I think it was Ebert or I read him quoting someone else who said that you can divide directors into categories of those who like and who do not like people.  If it's true, there's no doubt that the Farrelly's have instant karma in spades, and it spills over onto the screen invariably when they are at the top of their game. 
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« Reply #3296 on: January 24, 2008, 07:44:04 PM »

Stallone has endorsed McCain, which brings up the inevitable question, could Stallone handle Chuck Norris (having endorsed Huckabee)?  Yeah, no way.

AvP?

So, is Seagal deep in the DOJO awaiting the call from Guliani??  He did clean up the streets of Chicago and New York, I think, he threw a bunch of vaguely Latina males and Jamacians and Brothers into LIQUOR STORE DISPLAYS or CONVENIENCE STORE REFRIGERATOR DOORS.  If there is anybody to snap McCain's arms again it's Seagal, and with only Sly to defend him??

It's all getting very weird, like to be a Republican you need an ass-kicker, man, YEAH!!

I heard that [THE JEWISH CHUCK NORRIS WHOSE NAME ESCAPES ME] is leaving the door open in case BLOOMBERG ENTERS RACE.

Denny Kucinich has the (rumored) support of:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1078479/

...along with the guy who put the "GRRRRR" in "green":

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000893/

Christopher Dodd was prepared to...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000620/

And John Edwards in naturally courting the support of...

http://www.rfgolds.com/
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« Reply #3297 on: January 24, 2008, 08:51:52 PM »

well, I know the first thing I ask myself when I enter the voting booth is which presidential candidate is being endorsed by which actor.... Wink
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« Reply #3298 on: January 24, 2008, 10:59:33 PM »

The first thing I think is why am I here and what is this machine.
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« Reply #3299 on: January 24, 2008, 11:09:20 PM »

Key for Hillary:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119173/
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