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« Reply #3525 on: February 11, 2008, 01:06:25 PM »

"Juno" reminded me of Napoleon Dynamite+Superbad

I agree, bottle.  Should win best screenplay
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« Reply #3526 on: February 12, 2008, 12:06:44 PM »

Gosh, that ol' Internet is running kind of slow these days.  Something is afoot in cyberspace.  A Yahoo group I frequent has been sporadically down for almost a week now and a couple dialup folk I know seem to be MIA.  What news I've read is that a major undersea cable was cut, halting Net service to areas of the Middle East, and some other glitch is plaguing Canada.  Wonder if this is spinoff from those...
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« Reply #3527 on: February 12, 2008, 01:11:05 PM »

Who is cutting the world's cable connection undersea?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120237/

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« Reply #3528 on: February 12, 2008, 01:13:52 PM »

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416243/

I knew I blew the punchline.
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« Reply #3529 on: February 12, 2008, 01:16:39 PM »

You've plumbed the depths, Jbottle.
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« Reply #3530 on: February 12, 2008, 01:27:35 PM »

"I should've been a pair of claws..."
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« Reply #3531 on: February 12, 2008, 02:11:55 PM »

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120237/

So it's not the tale of a part-time teacher who's in over her head?  I was enjoying the C- list cast when I noticed an Alan Smithee director credit.  This movie has everything!  I may have to find it.
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« Reply #3532 on: February 12, 2008, 04:47:15 PM »

This movie has everything! 

Including Chris Mulkey!!!   If you have not seen "Patti Rocks" then find that one, too, and you'll be in the Chris Mulkey fan club fo-sho.
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« Reply #3533 on: February 12, 2008, 04:50:59 PM »

I noticed that in "Sub Down", Baldwin plays "Rick Postley".   I think there was a 1980's pop singer named "Rick Astley", who sang "Never Gonna Give You Up" or something like that.

I like when a movie alters a semi-famous person's name for a character's name, like "Waymon Tinsdale" or, well, I can't think of any others right now but it will be fun when I do think of another one, because I know there are many more, and I know I know several of them but just can't think of any at the moment. 

I know QT does it all the time with pro ball-players' names, e.g., Clarence Worley in "True Romance", Marsellus Wallace in "Pulp Fiction", Freddy Nieuwendyk (for the NHL fans) in "Reservoir Dogs", but there are others besides QT's.
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« Reply #3534 on: February 12, 2008, 04:53:27 PM »

It has that intriguing "plink, plink, plink" noise that you know they will use a million times.....it has all the markings of an unremarkable film, agreed.

But then I think "Ticker" is better than "Saving Private Ryan," and that "The Party Animal" is better than "American Beauty," and that even the oilcan fave "O.C. & Stiggs" crushes "Forrest Gump" in scope, imagination, and laughs.....I'm pretty sure that "Submerged" was a joke on the fact that two completely different ideas or pieces of movies were "merged," it's clear especially when you look at the evidence:  Seagal working with the same director a few times in a row, maybe financing falls through on the one shoot-'em up international espionage thriller, whaterver, we blew stuff up and it goes SOMEWHERE.  I'm fully convinced that the way it came together is that the script was re-written when they found a sub they could use for a week and every other logistical problem that they solved to assemble a barely-coherent narrative about fire and patriotism, and something about mind-control.  It's an absolute mess that is somewhat redeemed by the notion that they literally made one movie out of what started as two movies, or something.  Much more interesting than "A Dry White Season."
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« Reply #3535 on: February 12, 2008, 06:08:12 PM »

Thought of participants here during recent reread of Joan Didion's The White Album which has an essay "In Hollywood" (written in 1973, the year of, among other things, the first The Heartbreak Kid--I enjoyed that one and can't imagine going to remake)  Anyway, the piece made me wonder what you would think of her view of the world of the Hollywood studios as "the last extant stable society." 
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« Reply #3536 on: February 12, 2008, 06:30:00 PM »

The phrase standing alone sounds like bullshit, haven't read the essay, but if you mean the very clear pecking order or food chain from pornstar-rockstar-tvstar-filmstar; and the various parasites and predators as you will, it was probably the PLACE TO BE IN '73 from what I've read, but I sure wouldn't want to live there now and discover where I fit into that social construct.  I would have to buy a Prius and lose 20 lbs. for starters.

What did she mean?
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« Reply #3537 on: February 12, 2008, 07:08:26 PM »

Well, the essay isn't long (14 pgs. in the Farrar, Strauss paperback), if you want to sneak a peak next time you're in a library or bookstore and want decide for yourself.  It helps to know that Didion was a product of and lived among people of privilege, not the kind of writer that would have been on the recent picket lines.  The system and people she describes may be relics of a bygone era (replaced by what you describe as 1970's era moviedom, even?) or the kind of so-far-behind-the-scenes-as-to-be-invisible powers-that-be that still wield enormous influence. I'd be very interested in your view.
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« Reply #3538 on: February 12, 2008, 07:14:49 PM »

Oh, the "studios," no idea, I went straight to what I percieve as "Hollywood," not really ever having lived there.  But yeah, it seems more like a fiefdom type of social structure, where for example, Warner only allowed New Line to get so big before deciding to re-plate New Line properties as Warner and demote New Line (coming up in the world too fast w/Ring Series) back to the dirty work of horror films.

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« Reply #3539 on: February 12, 2008, 08:29:09 PM »

I see I was right in thinking you'd have way more specific info than I do.  Still, I never doubt that behind-the-scenes powers-that-be still exist and will continue to do so in any field of endeavor.  Whether that makes me a realist or a fatalist is for others to decide.
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