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« Reply #3750 on: March 18, 2008, 10:31:21 AM »

  With Nicholson, it's the charisma that transfers, women would want to have sex with Jack Nicholson even if he didn't have any money because he has that glint of the troublemaker that's attractive,

I dunno, to me he's just an old bald guy with a pot belly and probably really bad breath.  But he was hooked up with Lara Flynn Boyle for a few yeasrs, so I see what you mean.


I interpreted Matt Damon's lack of emotion in The Good Shepherd as a function of his character, not necessarily a lack of acting ability.  I thought the stoicism, coldness or whatever was passed on from his father, and Damon passed it on to his son.  But I probably read too much into it, wouldn't be the first time.  Still liked TGS a lot, though.
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« Reply #3751 on: March 18, 2008, 10:39:10 AM »

Jack --so not hot -- c'mon -- even  when young the appeal was the roles --Five Easy Pieces , Chinatown and (maybe) Reds.
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« Reply #3752 on: March 18, 2008, 11:19:05 AM »

Yeah, Nicholson built his career on those early roles -- he gives us the outsider.   Don't forget "The Passenger." 


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"They came over and cleaned his apartment."  I think it's time I started to cultivate a glint of the troublemaker.

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« Reply #3753 on: March 18, 2008, 11:31:34 AM »

Barton --

Then that would make you an Easy Rider? -- which really should be included with the aforementioned roles Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3754 on: March 18, 2008, 01:31:19 PM »

harrie:  I meant when he was a younger guy:  Lara Flynn Boyle was about the dough I imagine, but that chick is way too skinny.  I just mean that he has ordinary looks but a personality and a mischevious grin and everything that make him a star, the same thing that makes him hold the audience is why I imagined him to have an appeal to "chicks" regardless of not looking like Warren Beatty did, that's all. 
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« Reply #3755 on: March 18, 2008, 01:39:35 PM »

Whoooops, sorry jbottle.  Okay, Jack in Five Easy Pieces for example, I can see that.
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« Reply #3756 on: March 18, 2008, 04:30:30 PM »

Great movie, Karen Black is great in that, and it's a pathetic arrangment because his sexual attraction for her is equalled by his intellectual and snobbish contempt for her, and it makes her all the more vulnerable and pitiful.  I haven't seen that one in a long time, you kind of forget that Karen Black was a huge star at one time, sort of who you went with if you couldn't get Faye Dunaway.
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« Reply #3757 on: March 18, 2008, 07:21:20 PM »

How soon is the "I chose to watch this" series on "The Onion" to "Ticker" or "Submerged," that's what I want to know.
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« Reply #3758 on: March 18, 2008, 08:21:24 PM »

Barton --

Then that would make you an Easy Rider? -- which really should be included with the aforementioned roles Roll Eyes


It was. It could not be left out because in this strange male over-estimation of being somebody like Fonda or Hopper, Jack was "the Square" who came from a job in a hardware store or a drugstore or something that told you why he was out there when invited by the "guys". Then being a patriotic film (of sorts), they all end up dead.  Very edifying for the era.    I managed to block that part out when I originally saw it because I was captivated by the New Orleans footage.    Then when I happened to see it on tv, I was blown away by what I had blocked from consciousness and became aware,"How could I have done that?"

jbottle, confession, I also know where he went to high-school, makes it feel more like all in the family, used to pass the school every day biking to the beach when the tourists left following Labor Day. Nobody who went to my grade school or high school ever got into the movies, as far as I recall but a lot of my home-towners did for some very strange reason. Maybe not strange? Maybe it was the kind of "small city" that drove young women to New York, television,LA. Everyone of them were blondes.

Kitinkaboodle, re: Reds      Do you know who Eugene O'Neill was?  His connection to Jack, and Jack to him, is as plain as the nose on your face. Although he seems to have done more drinking.  Also appearances, when you take a look at Nicholson in  early films, and then look at a photo of O'Neill you have to wonder. Strangely enough, whether he liked it or not, having been a merchant seaman who drank, for awhile Gene O'Neill walked the beaches just down the road  to the south by a few towns from where Jack was born which begins to thicken the plot but I wouldn't put too fine a point on it when a coincidence of that kind is bypassed.

I've written a story or two about what it was like when your wife drags you off to live there to get you out of a bar in Lower Manhattan and your father is the most famous actor in America and possibly several other countries but your mother is a drug addict, and your daughter will run away and marry Charlie Chaplin who is as old as you are.  And then you take a walk, stop at a Jersey diner for breakfast, walk over to the beach and run into the ghost of a girl whom Ezra Pound dumped.  She collects sea-shells.  Any questions?

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« Reply #3759 on: March 18, 2008, 08:28:58 PM »

harrie,re:#3772

"I interpreted Matt Damon's lack of emotion in The Good Shepherd as a function of his character, not necessarily a lack of acting ability.  I thought the stoicism..."

I did too but I thought it came as a result of his father's suicide.

Anyway, some latest news:Ford, Tom Ford.
Daniel Craig suits up for new James Bond flick
Monday, March 17, 2008
(NEW YORK) Tom Ford's highly-anticipated leap onto the big screen may very well come in the form of Daniel Craig. The dashing actor, who's set to play James Bond in November's Quantum of Solace, will be entirely clad in a Ford-designed wardrobe. Craig has reportedly already ruined forty bespoke suits during filming, confessing to the British press, "It's really a crime; it makes me weep every time." Brioni outfitted Craig in Casino Royale, and the Italian company's wares were featured exclusively on Pierce Brosnan in his three Bond films. It appears that whatever Ford's doing, he's doing right. Last year, Craig arrived on set at a GQ photo shoot in a new bespoke suit designed by Ford. "Our fashion department showed up with an entire rack of beautiful ones for him to try," said the magazine's style editor Adam Rapoport. "But ultimately, he felt none of them fit as nicely as his TF. So he said, 'Thank you very much, but I'll stick with my suit.'"



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« Reply #3760 on: March 18, 2008, 10:37:14 PM »

harrie,re:#3772

"I interpreted Matt Damon's lack of emotion in The Good Shepherd as a function of his character, not necessarily a lack of acting ability.  I thought the stoicism..."

I did too but I thought it came as a result of his father's suicide.

You got me, madupont.  Guess I have to watch TGS a couple more times.
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« Reply #3761 on: March 19, 2008, 12:34:24 AM »

harrie,

I recall it as being rather at the beginning some place but I easily lost track as there were so many exciting ideas presented in such quick order.

You may not recall it as readily but close your eyes and remember the little boy standing there after he has walked into his father's study where he has the ship-in-a-bottle that the grown up Matt Damon is handling or working on when he goes into this harsh reverie of entering the room just as his father shot himself.
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« Reply #3762 on: March 19, 2008, 12:53:29 AM »

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/film-and-tv/news/oscarwinner-minghella-dies-after-cancer-op-797403.html
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« Reply #3763 on: March 19, 2008, 11:22:15 AM »

Way too young -- a bit shocking.

Also, RIP the original writer behind "2001" films, Arthur C. Clarke.  Also a founding father of the subgenre called Hard Science Fiction ("hard" as in speculation with a rigorous adherence to principles and methods of science).  Also, did that Strange World series on tv in the 80s, about paranormal and oddities around the world.  Also, cohosted some of the NASA launches with Cronkite, IIRC. 
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« Reply #3764 on: March 19, 2008, 01:49:57 PM »

"Doomsday"

Apocalypse?  Viruses?  London?  Though I have to confess feelings for Rhona Mitra and her insanely hot voice (from her stint on "The Practice" and "Boston Legal"), I'm really wondering how many apocalyptic Brit virus films the audience can bear. 

Thinking WFV on this one.

 
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