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« Reply #4305 on: June 02, 2008, 02:31:17 PM »

  Thanks, Harrie!  

I missed bottle's post -- personally enjoy Downey's work -- his Chaplin was superb -- hoped/hoping that Ironman isn't a waste of time... seems there's more a postive than negative buzz.

Yes, that's it Hocus Pocus.  Bette Midler great too...

Loved the first Indy -- but from most reports -- think I'll be passing on this one.
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« Reply #4306 on: June 02, 2008, 03:16:31 PM »

I have never feared the genesis of weird trivia questions.

I do fear ever having to watch films like Sex and the City.   BTW, I have to ask this, but what is the appeal of Sarah J. Parker?? I mean, I've never watched that series or much of anything else with her, except LA Story and a few film trailers for romantic comedies, so maybe I just haven't had enough SJP exposure to get her whole mystique.  Is it that she seems to be the only actress around who has the guts to leave a prominent proboscis untouched by the scalpel?  If so, that is worthy of admiration.  I mean, yeah, if some day she turns up looking like a shikse, that would be disappointing. 





Her primary appeal is to the younger generation of women who finds great whining to be great acting, great clothes to be substance, and having the right drink in hand a modicum of success.
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« Reply #4307 on: June 02, 2008, 05:34:03 PM »

MrUtley, You just have to -- get over it! I did see Blazing Saddles but some of us went to see Cleavon Little because that was where Mel was at (at the time); the rest of us went to see Lili Von Shtupp who was another of Brooks' favorites for casting.  Now, there's a lady whom I felt died too young. I liked everything that Madeleine Kahn did; always looked forward to her performances.

And granted how long ago that film was, I can't remember any of the shtick so Hedley Lamarr  is rather vague to me at this point other than all his stints on with Lawrence on tv.   

Ps. When somebody says Korman/Corman...? I just naturally think of early Jack Nicholson.                   
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« Reply #4308 on: June 02, 2008, 05:54:40 PM »

Harrie:  Yeah, I think the "buzz" has propelled the sustained revenues in IM while the reviews and buzz on IJ4 have been mixed, so if you weren't an "I'm so, like, there..." person, then you probably didn't go this weekend.  As anecdotal evidence, I went to see IM because I figured we would have the theater to ourselves, almost, there were like 25 people there at a  7PM show, so anyway, it was a toss-up between that and INDY. 

What I am getting to is that this was an EVENT MOVIE for girlfriends, and I think SJP is cute but that the whole Darrin Starr enterprise is too much for me, but I am male, so I think that it's not a reflection on the fact that Indy will be around for a while and may overtake S/C next weekend again, you take away the girl, and there's a repreive for guys, "Y'all have fun..." [drinks, works on train set, paints Confederate figurines, orders pizza and drinks, etc.]

No I think that Indy has "less legs," to use a malapropism but you know what I mean than IM, but will have sustained business and it's more likely that S/C falls precipitiously because, and I opened the door for four thirty-something chicks after I opened the door for the sigboth, and said "Something tells me 'Sex and the City,'" and one was like "How'd you guess?," they all were dressed up for the pre-Cosmo or two, and then I got the look of "Nice [of you to flirt with the S/C patrons..." and I was all like "I wasn't going to close the door on them, I was trying to be courteous..."

Oh, and yeah, the emoticon started out as a colon and three smile/parens, and the first emoticon was accidental, I like how instead of "emoticons" that you can type, you now can't type and you have to use or are forced to use the emoticons above which of course you fall into accidentally or have to do the time consuming mouse and click, so anyway, now I wasted more time talking about it.

It did look like they tweaked the "Hulk" ads to "humanize" and focus more on Norton's face and less on CGI, which I think was wise (and which I advised here).

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« Reply #4309 on: June 02, 2008, 05:56:27 PM »

jbottle,re:#4291, Iron Man, G.Paltrow/Pepper Pots; Jon Favreau?Huh

Told you so!   My sister offered me a pair of those shoes, that were actually mine, about 12 years ago.  I just looked at her, feeling sorry for the poor girl, being so young that she didn't yet realize that I'd barely three years earlier attended a wedding of the at-home variety, to which I wore some of the greatest Spanish made shoes that I'd ever invested in but only to realize as soon as I put them on that I'd definitely have to lean on a strong arm of an escort to walk in the dang things that had once been no trouble at all!

Which means, she has just about reached the age where she's found out for herself, if not a tad earlier, what it means to have to give up high heels which instantly make  you glamorous.   (and I had an edge, with a dancer's training, I had thigh power that would make Iron Man jealous.)

Those shoes of course were what gave Pepper, "the walk". They need to have that little black ankle strap. I loved the scene where she escorts and then is escorted, running back and forth with Agent Coulson and the rest of the guys from Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division. (it was a real division; which, yuk, means it still exists. Check it out. By looking up Agent Coulson....)
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« Reply #4310 on: June 02, 2008, 05:56:59 PM »

Oh, and harrie, SJP was in "Striking Distance," so she's got that going for her as well, I mean it's not a good movie, but there is no other Pittsburgh Boat Police serial killer movie where all three rivers have about 10 red herrings swimming around, but you should've seen the red herring that got away.
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« Reply #4311 on: June 02, 2008, 06:01:28 PM »

jbottle,  "Darrin Starr enterprise", why didn't you tell me? but, I guess there was really no way you could have gotten out of going to this....harrie will explain it to you, unless you made the mistake of looking at Melrose Place, which should have given both you , and I, a clue?
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« Reply #4312 on: June 02, 2008, 06:01:59 PM »

"Those shoes of course were what gave Pepper, "the walk"."

I take your word for it but I still consider it "an acting choice," I mean, I think she would've walked like that in shorter heels, it was a practical small step walk like a high-profile highly-organized administrative person might use, but I give credit to Paltrow for making a joke:  I was laughing at "the walk" as a joke in and of itself.
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« Reply #4313 on: June 02, 2008, 06:07:58 PM »

Maud:  I can't go see S/C without being gay or unprincipled, I'm a moral featherweight but this is a sticking point, and they don't want me there, the significant bother or any other gay male or consumerist bitch female in the audience, see how they wouldn't like me laughing at the wrong time.

So, I went to see I/M this Sat., but noticed the sizable S/C crowd, but let's be clear:  I did not see S/C, and only heard the horde of anorxia neurvosa babes heaving popcorn and skittles as I went to go pee beer out of my penis.
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« Reply #4314 on: June 02, 2008, 06:08:29 PM »

I was going to cite Striking Distance as a non-whiny, decent performance by SJP, but I thought I'd be called on defending her excessively, so let it go. But I actually liked her in SD, without the shoes, clothes, etc.  

That's funny about holding the door; I guess it's true that your neck of the woods is always on top of the Polite City list. When we lived in Greenvuuuhll, at first we got ticked at the way people would squirm inside a closing door so as to not have to hold it for the next person; it was an absolute feat of rudeness.  But then we started making a point of holding doors for people (which we do anyway, but we'd really wait for people to mosey along) and getting a laugh from the look on their faces as they went through and we beamed at them.
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« Reply #4315 on: June 02, 2008, 06:12:30 PM »

madupont, jbottle doesn't need the Darren Starr/SatC thing explained, the bottle knows. I don't think he's nursing a stash of Iron Man ticket stubs or anything.

Skittles and Cosmos?  I'm feeling queasy just thinking about the combination
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« Reply #4316 on: June 02, 2008, 07:13:48 PM »

harrie,  You'll be very sorry if you see Sharon Stone in her version of Diabolique. Haven't you noticed, name Simone Signoret, is a match up of their initials
more so than what SIMONE looked like in the Fifties, when she had a kind of puffed up water retention (no pun intended) appearance.

Sharon should stick to her forte, with or without panties. She was at the top of her form when she played opposite RDN in Casino but so was he. Her entrance in that film was spectacular.  

But I was not kidding that her acting should have got some kind of mention in, Bobby. (Best acting:Freddy Rodríguez) (worst acting.... without a doubt: Christian Slater) But this was a cast of Casts, is one way of putting it; giving work to everybody.

Back to the real movie, Diabolique!   For some weird reason,Henri-Georges Clouzot, is given credit for the Sharon Stone version which is an incorrect assessment on somebody's part because his is a name that remained in everybody's mind for making the original.  By 1963, Peter Sellers had impressed everybody as Inspector Clouseau, a sound alike name.

I may have forgotten a 1970s movie's Korman in the cast of a Mel Brooks because I simply can't really picture any of the scenes, but the scenes of Clouzot's film remain permanently imbedded in the brain. I had been living with my friend Lucienne, her American husband, and two little boys at the time, so perhaps I was culturally wired for this film when it arrived.  It is as startling for its own audience as was the shower scene at Norman Bates Motel.

It builds so beautifully, the apartment within the school premises, with its shadowy dark corners. The set-up (which believe it or not, sans murder, was pulled on me about 8 years later without my catching on, getting the drift, oh, I got it all right, I just couldn't feel it); I think it is perfectly written for screen-play.

The apparition in the school window, when the class photographs are taken. This is so well handled, that I never once doubted it was a spectre, so now you have to deal with this, the cinematography has now also set you up to be in absolute fear  to believe the horror of what has happened and of what will happen yet to come.

Years later, years and years, Simone makes another film from a Romaine Gary novel that plays on the emotions which you never suspect, none of it with the impact of the visuals given by Diabolique but  played out entirely within the mind of the viewer.  Directed by a relatively unknown director, you might want to see, Madame Rosa, when you are feeling in a really upbeat mood with all your equilibrium in top form.

Okay, now, for the oddly enough factor. If Sharon Stone was believed to be the Golden Girl who would replace Marilyn Monroe (although Sharon is a Stone independent outrageous personlity when she comes on the scene), it was Marilyn Monroe who was directedly responsible for what Simone Signoret looked like for quite awhile. I don't know when her husband first met MM but the film Let's Make Love first brought it to  Arthur Miller's attention that Yves Montand was sleeping with his wife.

Montand and Signoret remained married.  He was still talking about making it up to her in his last films with Depardieu, and Daniel Auteuil, which were made at the time of her death or immediately after, the Jean de Fleurette films from the books by Marcel Pagnol.

"In 2004, Catherine Allégret, Montand's stepdaughter and Signoret's daughter from her first marriage, published a book titled World Upside Down (Un monde à l'envers ISBN 2-253-11442-1) in which she contended that Montand had abused her sexually since she was five years old."

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« Reply #4317 on: June 02, 2008, 07:21:48 PM »

"Those shoes of course were what gave Pepper, "the walk"."

I take your word for it but I still consider it "an acting choice," I mean, I think she would've walked like that in shorter heels, it was a practical small step walk like a high-profile highly-organized administrative person might use, but I give credit to Paltrow for making a joke:  I was laughing at "the walk" as a joke in and of itself.


Nope, you can't walk in those shoes without your glutes protruding as you are confined to relatively short steps, which is what made the mad-cap "we are the cops" chase scene as funny as they used to be in early films. This takes nothing away from Paltrow's professional performance as office-wife amidst what are implied Downy's perpetually available pickups, while she looks distinctly not like Eve Arden as Our Miss Brooks.
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« Reply #4318 on: June 02, 2008, 09:12:12 PM »

Again, I think it was her funny joke, and I didn't go to the shoe movie, I went to the SUPERHERO MOVIE, but I do own a pair of that gay guy who went to prison in Europe Londoner, but I was in Miami, and I also own a pair of Sketchers, which RDJr. is a pitch (fuck, vs. "catch"?) man for, and don't wear because, oh, anyway, shoes, no, acting, no, mother, sister...
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« Reply #4319 on: June 02, 2008, 10:24:29 PM »

At the risk of overloading on shoe talk and bringing on more Carol Burnett-related mayhem, when the secretary walk, shoes causing it, etc. are discussed, I can't help thinking of the recurring sketch with Tim Conway as Mr. Tudball and Carol Burnett as Mrs. Huh-Wiggins-uh.  Okay, got that out of my system.

And madupont, don't worry -- I wasn't exactly going to hunt down the Sharon Stone Diabolique.
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