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« Reply #180 on: June 18, 2007, 10:51:28 AM »

Is it possible that off the top of his head, the poster of this statement meant to say something else? Is he among the ranks of the people who simply does not believe there is a Mafia?

"Dude, you're doing a great job of perpetuating the myths of Jersey."

Or, does this mean,he just doesn't know any Italians?  I did make the on-line acquaintance of a very friendly woman with a lovely personality(she was the moderator of the Western European forum, but not at this venue, until she retired)who was from one of the upper northeastern states facing out along the Atlantic, if I recall correctly. What we had in common was that while she was at university in my home-state, she met and later married a man from my home-town.

Another mutual friend at some point mentioned by e-mail that the former moderator did not think there was any longer a Mafia as far as she had noticed thus far in our home-town in common. I  answered our mutual friend's e-mail letter that it was actually nearly impossible not to meet "connections" when you really stop to think about it and, that over the years , one thing leading to another,  you accumulate a rather large "acquaintanceship" for a lifetime.

I then explained to her what you work out for yourself as the social-conventions  required,  your  own personal requirements as a concession in which you retain an acknowledged status of never having been informed of anything that should have remained private during any other kind of personal transaction, until such time as it is entirely a matter of public knowledge anyway; which is always years down the line.

But that's all right, I certainly have met  'Medigani who moved from elsewhere to my home-town and thought that all those tv shows and movies were made up because there really wasn't a Mafia.

Here is some future material that we can look forward to being adapted to the screen without a doubt.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Mob-Trial.html

Updated:2007-06-17 20:37:06
Chicago's Biggest Mob Trial in Years Set
By MIKE ROBINSON
AP


                                 
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« Reply #181 on: June 18, 2007, 11:10:26 AM »

Continued from above.

I think that I should include a few excerpts of interest from the article that begins:

CHICAGO (June 6)
..."U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald"...(for those of you who recognize the name but can't quite place it, he prosecuted the Scooter Libby indictment. I was particularly crestfallen to find James Carville among those writing in favor of Libby copping a pardon).

"...14 mob murders including that of Tony "The Ant" Spilotro, known as the Chicago Outfit's man in Las Vegas. Spilotro, who inspired the character played by Joe Pesci in the movie "Casino," and his brother were beaten to death and buried in an Indiana cornfield in 1986."

"... Crime buffs speculated that Lombardo was hiding out in the hills of Sicily or enjoying a life of ease in the Caribbean. In fact, after nine months on the run, FBI agents nabbed him in a suburban alley one frosty night in January 2006."

"In the 1980s, Lombardo was convicted in the same federal courthouse, along with then-International Brotherhood of Teamsters President Roy Lee Williams, of attempting to bribe Sen. Howard Cannon of Nevada."

"Experts say the Chicago crime syndicate is so deeply entrenched that it won't be decapitated even if the government gets a clean sweep of convictions."

Enough said.




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« Reply #182 on: June 18, 2007, 12:06:45 PM »

So, you are biased against Italians.


I get it.

Now come back to reality.
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« Reply #183 on: June 18, 2007, 01:53:21 PM »

"John From Cinncinnati" continued to suck last night as the acting and writing are terrible and there's no reason to like any of the characters.  Sure, they are all quirky, I'll grant you that, but breaking the kids neck in the second episode is about as gimmicky as it gets, hell we don't really even know him that well yet.  I'm now engrossed for all the wrong reasons:  I have to see if it continues to suck harder every week, Ed O'neill, who normally acquits himself well, looks like a fool in this one, but I'm along for the ride and will be amazed if I begin to like it in earnest.  "Entourage" started out pretty lousy and then in the second season the writers started to get their footing and realize that Ari and Kevin Dillon were the stars and the humor of the show.
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« Reply #184 on: June 18, 2007, 02:54:02 PM »

There is a wonderful pbs channel in Virginia that shows European mystery series and a few are from Italy and the Italians definitely do shows on the Mafia.  Nearly every detective show from Montalbano and Beretti (I think that's his name, from Donna Leon books) deal sooner or later with the Mafia.  The Italians even did a series on the Mafia and attempts to deal with them.

If the Italians know there is a Mafia, there is no sense in denying it.  The time has long since gone when Americans confuse Italians with Mafia.  The Mafia is Italian but Italian doesn't mean Mafia. 
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« Reply #185 on: June 18, 2007, 08:00:49 PM »

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"(I think that's his name, from Donna Leon books)"  I gather you have read some of her mysteries.  They are mind benders. I think that I first saw her reviewed in maybe Bas Bleu? (Not sure.) The rumor is that she never leaves Venice; but she fills you in on a lot things you will never suspect in your imagination of what the place is like -- especially if you just go by the film version, Henry James, Wings of the Dove, which shoots minimal exterior setting, conventional:Bridge of Sighs;possibly Murano, to indicate how burials/funerals are handled in Venice.

For instance, although I have forgotten what title it was where she developed this scene, it is uncanny how she develops the feel of a local so that you get the dimensions and the atmosphere and learn that actually there is a train-station which is very involved or rather the depot is with tracks coming in and going out  to and from all parts of Italy. From there, she has her detective go to a very arid, drab, working class area outside the city where he goes to a working-class bar to see if he can pick up information about a truck load of dead women that went off the road descending from a mountain pass from the war areas around the curve on the other side of the Adriatic.


As to the other films being made, I recently saw some remark re: the past week, that we have Mussolini to thank for booting out the people from the South with his version of Socialism but I think that may be an exaggeration given the timing for two reasons, one, I had a neighbour in Princeton where I lived in the old east side Italian quarter where they first came when they did the stone-work for the buildings on Princeton campus.  He told me quite clearly that he came over between 1921 and 1923 as a stoker on trans-Atlantic voyages. Twenty years ago,he was still mowing  the lawn of his "rental property ( he referred to my land-lady as "your Boss", in English, by which he meant my patrone, so I knew he came from the south); and the topper was when on occasion, I would catch a glimpse of him walking down the slope from the sidewalk, in his cap and jacket (of the kind worn in the country), on his way back from the "men's business association meeting in town where you went down an alley and then down to a basement restaurant.  He would pick up a loaf of long bread on his way home, and he carried it cocked in the crook of his arm as he came down hill. You had to look twice to be sure of what you were seeing, as it is the usual carriage when you disengage the barrel of a gun from the stock in hilly terrain.

Two, I had a landlady in New Orleans many years ago who came as a bride from Italy and eventually told me the story of how she was widowed.  Her husband kept a stable up Rue Ursulines, and she explained to me how he dressed when he went out to a meeting, same time period back in the Twenties, then he didn't come home. Only in those days, they still referred to it as "the Black Hand" rather than ma-fia.

I would tell you how this all got started in my own life, but I have probably timed out. It was at that age when you develop a crush and... I decided to develop a case of hero worship on the most unlikely to be found.
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« Reply #186 on: June 18, 2007, 11:58:38 PM »

Most of my favorite TV shows of all time were cancelled in the first season...some lasted a few more.

Representative Examples:
Q.E.D.
Max Headroom
Briscoe County Jr.
Sledge Hammer

Lately I think my sense of humopr is becomeing more popular -- or there is just more room on cable.   Monk is now 5 seasons old and it is a show that I actually like.  Last season, Psyche came out -- in the same vein...also excellent


Except of course when I was young and all I knew were the shows that were hits - of those the ones I would still stop to watch...

Alias Smith & Jones
Wild Wild West
Get Smart
Gilligans's Island
I dream of Jeannie
Bewitched


I do like Magnum PI also - which someone else mentioned...though it is nopt holding up as well as I would have hoped...
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« Reply #187 on: June 19, 2007, 12:00:20 AM »

I forgot

The Munsters
Adams Family



Did you ever notice how shows used to do that..  One would come out and be successful and another network woudl immediately rip themn off...

Boy, I'm sure glad they don't do that any more...   ;>
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« Reply #188 on: June 19, 2007, 12:55:22 AM »

I always thought that there was an uneasy connection between "Cop Rock," and "Manimal," in that sort of "ah, fuckit, let's go for it..." in a sort of perverse Kenny Loggins way, but, it's hard to find confirmation from the management, etc.
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« Reply #189 on: June 19, 2007, 03:53:35 AM »

I recently bought the two seasons of The Addams Family (1964-66) on DVD, which is nicely boxed and great fun to watch.  The kids are enjoying the show immensely.  I did this after they started showing a more recent television version on Lithuanian TV which was truly horrible:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0172031/
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« Reply #190 on: June 19, 2007, 04:01:18 AM »

Speaking of having fun with feuding Italian families:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087072/

There was also an amusing episode in the final season of Northern Exposure about rival Italian familes in Cicely.
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« Reply #191 on: June 19, 2007, 10:45:38 AM »

Poor Cicely!

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« Reply #192 on: June 19, 2007, 10:50:09 AM »

Trojan, I was also one of the few, the proud, the viewers of Max Headroom.  I got a chuckle from learning that the series title resulted from one of the writers being in London and noticing a sign in the tube station that said "Max. Head Room...."
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« Reply #193 on: June 19, 2007, 10:50:23 AM »

"John From Cinncinnati" continued to suck last night as the acting and writing are terrible and there's no reason to like any of the characters.  Sure, they are all quirky, I'll grant you that, but breaking the kids neck in the second episode is about as gimmicky as it gets, hell we don't really even know him that well yet.  I'm now engrossed for all the wrong reasons:  I have to see if it continues to suck harder every week, Ed O'neill, who normally acquits himself well, looks like a fool in this one, but I'm along for the ride and will be amazed if I begin to like it in earnest.  "Entourage" started out pretty lousy and then in the second season the writers started to get their footing and realize that Ari and Kevin Dillon were the stars and the humor of the show.

Continued to suck?

Jeez - let it evolve.  The story's not even begun yet.
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« Reply #194 on: June 19, 2007, 11:18:46 AM »

Trojan, great list.   

I loved Briscoe County, Jr. too.  My favorite scene was in the episode with the bumbling lady sheriff; they riffed on the Psycho shower scene, the "blood" being a spilled cup of coffee swirling down the drain.  Or maybe it was when Briscoe rode the giant rocket in a mock-up of Dr. Strangelove.  That show was great.   

Trivia:  A featured character from Briscoe County Jr. showed up as an eventually  regular character on Lost.  (Both produced by Carlton Cuse)  Anyone care to name the actor, or which character he played on either show?

I don't know which came first, but I prefer The Addams Family to The Munsters.  The Addams humor is more pointed, less broad - and some of it stands up remarkably well.  I still like that show - love their Christmas episode.

Alias Smith and Jones should have an asterik, though -- in our house, anyway, the Peter Duel episodes are the "real" ones.  Any of the post-suicide, Roger Smith as Hannibal Heyes episodes are bogus; and I think the actors even thought so.  They just seem to be going through the motions to get paid. Maybe the same things is true of the Peter Duel episodes -- because it is just 1970s television after all -- but I just don't notice it as much. Unfortunately, AS&J hasn't held up well over the years.  Now if we catch it, it's mostly to rag on for a few minutes before continuing flipping.

Get Smart is just genius.  If I come across an episode, which doesn't happen much any more -- I will drop what I'm doing to watch it.  Even when I know the lines and can say them along with the characters, it just doesn't get old.

I would add Rocky and Bullwinkle and WKRP in Cincinnati to my list of favorites.
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