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« Reply #450 on: August 21, 2007, 11:33:33 AM »

Where is it moving? USA network?

What happened here? NBC finally decided to lighten it's L&Oad and they tossed away the most leasest or the least mostest of the three?

And why did USA go and spoiler the show on top of it all. I for one was wondering if D'onofrio was going to come back. Overall I have to say that he is my favorite dramatic actor on all of television (not that I watch all that much drama on... well.. on anything, save real life.) I feel like we're getting to watch one of the great actors of our time perfect his craft each time I watch the show. Maybe I'm overstating, but mark that up to not knowing what I'm talking about. Perhaps it's just a personal preference.

I can't say that I bought the contrivance of the season ender that shattered Bobby's world (and, no I don't mean Deal Or No Deal). And what I particularly liked about L&O:CI was that it wasn't about anybody's private life, at least not more than the glancing reference, as it is in L&O as they refer to Jack's taking the gals home for some "down time fun and games".
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« Reply #451 on: August 22, 2007, 12:33:14 PM »

Where's Lulu?

I need your assessment of this week's Damages!
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« Reply #452 on: August 23, 2007, 04:30:35 PM »

Did someone call me?  I thought my ears were burning.  Grin


Spoilers for those who haven't seen it:

Damages was better than last time.  I still can't figure out Hewes.  I know she's bad but I never know where she is going (brilliantly written).

And trying to make Frobisher the poor victim doesn't fly.  He's a bastard.  He's in cahoots with the speaker for the plaintiffs who keeps saying they should take the offer from Frobisher and get rid of Hewes.

Then Patty's former assistant decides he wants to go on his own or take a position with another law firm where he can become partner and then decides to go it alone with the plaintiffs after they drop Hewes.  In the end, Hewes gets him back, after she tells him he's not partner material.

And Rose is still strutting after Hewes while trying to stick with her fiance.  I'm really curious about what did happen to her fiance.  It gets curiouser and curiouser and I'm sticking around to the end of the season.  It won't be on next week and I'm sad.

And I'll be even sadder when Philip Bosco leaves; he's guesting and he's wonderful in whatever he does.

Did you know that the producer (or one of them) is Allen Coulter of Six Feet Under "fame?"
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« Reply #453 on: August 23, 2007, 05:20:34 PM »

Coulter then has something to do with over all production values. Six Feet Under did manage to always pick up threads from past episodes which at first seemed solo episodes but the continuity became incredibly good and I miss most of those people including the mainly "liberated" Kathy Bates who came out as a nude, time after time and again when ever any director or producer gave her an opening to just take it all off.

Everybody's thematic problem,pose or hang-up was checked into at some further development.  Probably the people whom I miss most were the wholesome homosexuals who didn't come on as racist or misogynist, or ridiculous, or egocentric, etc.
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« Reply #454 on: August 23, 2007, 06:01:58 PM »

Ps. lulu

I'm going to be truly annoyed if we find out the guy who killed her boyfriend is the same one who has attacked her in the living room for the last three weeks while the dog can't rescue her, and whom she believes that she killed.  Okay, so there were two perps; one in the living room and one in the bathroom of the great apartment found for them by "Patty".    We know it wasn't the pigeon.   Of course, it could have been; when you look back and remember all the blog commentators who couldn't decide if the pussy cat on the wall wasn't really a tom cat and therefore not Adrianna but Moltisanto.    www.nybooks.com has just done a coverage,Aug.16th.praising David Chase for being the greatest thing since grated Parmesan cheese for hooking us and convincing us that criminality exists in America.

The reviewer also indicates that Chase was getting back a little bit for, just what, I forget? Because David Chase says, in college, he majored in Rolling Stones albums.  Etc.   He also pointed out to me that I apparently missed a couple of episodes by the way he describes them which I simply don't recall and now sound frightfully interesting. I think however his take on Carmela is only half right. He feels sorry for her but then goes on to describe her growth (which is very funny looking back into their home movie theater as she catches up with WASP culture hits of the past; but then reviewer describes Italian-American women as outside of the mainstream culture in a somewhat exaggerated way) finalizing his judgment of her as that, she settles for her status as a well to do middle-class suburban gangster's wife. 

Settles would not be the way I'd described those well-to-do middle-class suburban gangsters' wives who ask me, instead of Father so and so, what they ought to do since divorce is unheard of while your old man is in the joint.

Of course, the thing about Carmela was (along with that I would never have believed the first time that I saw her performance in something like early Law and Order, on one of those Labor Day all day marathons, or maybe it was Homicide: Life on the Streets/Baltimore to be exact, that she would come up with the character that she created for The Sopranos. Just goes to show what ensemble acting will do for the development of an actor), oh, yeah, West Caldwell was nothing like that as I recall from my earlier New Jersey past(episodes 1 and 2) nor upon meeting anybody from there in between in around the 1960s when I opted for people who seemed in-between two worlds, Chicago, where Pa came from, and Las Vegas where Pa sent them to take care of whatever he sent them there to take care of. But, hey, yeah, I think it was a good thing, she didn't go back to Italy with Furio.

But this son of a b, who reveals unknowingly that he does read what we write in the nytimes.com, has the nerve to say he thought up to the last moment, and/or hoped that Carmela would blow Tony away and that would have been the surprise ending.    What a dope. Which is why, I say, she didn't settle. She just did what every well to do suburban middle-class gangster's wife, to my knowledge, does.

Now, about that Frobisher.   You can't help loving him since he is Ted Danson(whom I also thought was great in Gulliver's Travels. Or, not just Sam?) What I caught in the last episode, was his throwaway lines, spoofing the new or forever US society, in which he cons his former employee into doing a few more favours for him while offhandedly promising much, just as before, with no guarantee anything he says is real.

[further ps.: also liked how
"witness' boyfriend got his come uppance by being picked up in a bar and escorted into a dark street or alley without lighting to get beaten to a pulp.  Just proving that justice is mensa-mensa. Equivalency wise.]
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« Reply #455 on: August 26, 2007, 06:15:47 PM »

Harrie and Earl,

I noticed there was some sort of Outer Limits-ish series on Friday nights (9 PM CT) on ABC, called "Masters of Science Fiction" which seems to consist of free-standing shows written, presumably, by masters of the genre.  This Friday, Terry O'Quinn starred in an episode dealing with alien invasion, so if you were missing "Lost" it was kind of fun to watch him play the role of a skeptic.  Also had William Davis, the "Cigaret Smoking Man" of X-Files fame.  I don't have cable, so this may be something that was originally aired on the SF channel or elsewhere.





Hey Bart,

I've been looking for this ever since you mentioned it two weeks ago and I finally noticed it last night on the ABC affiliate at 10:30. The episode starred John Hurt, Brian Dennehy and that guy who plays the plumber on Deperate Housewives. I enjoyed it even though I'm not totally sure what happened at the end. (Why did home base really need the mutants' blood since it didn't seem to be for the reason given?) The show had a jazzy, mellow, noirish musical score, too, which didn't seem to fit with what was happening on the screen, but was still nice to hear.
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« Reply #456 on: August 27, 2007, 11:38:54 AM »

I've seen two of them, the one with "Locke" and the last Friday's, which seemed relatively a misfire, though it bore the stamp of Harlan Ellison upon it, who is much admired in sci-fi circles, both as a short story writer and a screenwriter, not to mention outrageous personality at conventions and such.  This episode seemed like a kind of rehash of mutant themes culled from a fairly cobwebby sector of the genre and, as you noticed, not too skilfully put together.  (I liked the mutants more in the Phildickian film,  Total Recall...)

I'm not sure, but I think Ellison may have cameo'd as one of the mutants early in the show.

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« Reply #457 on: August 27, 2007, 11:42:43 AM »

In fact, I'm pretty sure it was Ellison, the more I reflect on it:  it was a short stocky Jewish guy who had that look of a non-actor delivering his one and only line.
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« Reply #458 on: August 27, 2007, 12:11:54 PM »

barton,

It was probably Harlan. My best friend, like a sister to me, until she became my husband's mistress, went out there earlier into the studio system for her make-over and promptly glommed on to Ellison.

But is that the Real John Hurt, or just John Heard, or Bill Hurt or some other rascal who hasn't half the ability to hold a camera as John Hurt?

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« Reply #459 on: August 27, 2007, 12:47:31 PM »

The man in the picture has overtones of Montgomery Cliff and James Dean and one of the, the, oh hell, I can't think of their last name--that family of brothers that seem to pop up everywhere--they have pouty lips.
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« Reply #460 on: August 27, 2007, 12:58:16 PM »

If you mean the Wilsons, I don't think it's one of them.  I'm thinking David Lynch, maybe?
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« Reply #461 on: August 27, 2007, 01:29:47 PM »

What are you all talking about?  What picture?

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« Reply #462 on: August 27, 2007, 01:35:29 PM »

No, their last name starts with a "B" I think.  Sheesh.  It's right on the edge of my mind, poor old used up thing that it is.

Your picture, Barton.  The one you have posted under your screen name.  We're tryng to decide who it is.
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« Reply #463 on: August 28, 2007, 09:38:24 AM »

It might be

http://imdb.com/name/nm0188882/

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« Reply #464 on: August 28, 2007, 11:27:25 AM »

So I guess nobody ever heard of "right-clicking" with their mouse?  If you right-click, you get a little menu (in Windows, anyway) and at the bottom there's a choice called Properties.  Click on that, and the URL of the picture is often....informative.

Somehow, that pose does obscure what he usually looks like in pictures.



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