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« Reply #540 on: September 11, 2007, 12:50:00 PM »

Took talent to get her there in the first place
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« Reply #541 on: September 11, 2007, 01:31:55 PM »

Took talent to get her there in the first place

Worded as to leave room for speculation about whom it was that was talented. Was it Brittany? Or was the talent "Owned" by the person that got her there?
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« Reply #542 on: September 11, 2007, 01:34:22 PM »

Don't try to look smarter than you are.
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« Reply #543 on: September 11, 2007, 02:04:45 PM »

As is so often said to me "You're smarter than you look. Pretty much would have to be though wouldnja?"

Other than that I don't know what prompted your snarkiness, Your Snarkiness.
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« Reply #544 on: September 11, 2007, 02:07:13 PM »

As is so often said to me "You're smarter than you look. Pretty much would have to be though wouldnja?"

Other than that I don't know what prompted your snarkiness, Your Snarkiness.

Maybe your insistence on kicking Spears.
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« Reply #545 on: September 11, 2007, 02:28:25 PM »

Talent is a relative thing.

When I listen to the music that my children listen to and then I listen to the music of people at the same age from an earlier time it is clear to me how low the talent bar has been dropped.

You want to compare the "talent" of Brittany to Cass Elliot? To Joni Mitchell? To Joan Baez? To Grace Slick? To Janis Joplin?
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« Reply #546 on: September 11, 2007, 02:55:22 PM »

These are not pop stars you have mentioned

How about the Archies?

Your dad would tell you Baez couldn't hold a candle to Ella.  Times change.


This is not a musical great, this Spears.  Of course not.  She's been more of an entertainer.   That's what so much music is these days.

Guys like us still prefer the music minus the fluff (seeing Little Feat the end of this month.  I don't expecta  light show or a huge jumbotron)
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« Reply #547 on: September 11, 2007, 02:59:15 PM »

You guys should move this conversation to Celebreality...

In fact I'll put my thoughts over there now in order to do so...


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« Reply #548 on: September 11, 2007, 03:00:12 PM »

Yeah, God knows we are getting in the way of alot of TV talk.
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« Reply #549 on: September 11, 2007, 03:58:51 PM »

Not to mention that we're talking about something that happened on tv and we're not talking about the gossip/hype that surrounds BS but rather her reality.

Give someone a name like Trojan, they start trying to protect the world from pricks like me!

Kid,

We could veer off into the ditch by asking each other to define the difference between Pop and Rock or folk or whatever.

If you want to compare Brit to The Archies, or the Partridge Family, then let's also include The Osmonds, The Jacksons, the Supremes, Melanie, Donovan, Madonna, Prince, Patsy Kline... any number of talented people who got to where they were by dint of raw talent and determination, be that the determination of the artist or the artist's nutjob father.

The Disney machine spat Brittany onto the scene fully formed. Yes, she had to have been more willing and have more twinkle than the other girls that Disney was also sending through their meat grinder. But that doesn't mean that her product was the result of artistic talent.

The other day I was listening to Satanic Majesties Request and having the old Beatles v. Rolling Stones debate within echoing canyons of my mind. It wasn't really the Beatles or the Stones, it was George Martin v. whoever mixed the SMR record. It's the promotion people who propel the stars of today even more than before (not taking anything away from Colonel Parker) and it was plenty plenty then to start off.

Brittany Spears will prove that she is a talent when if she can come back on stage, knowing what she now knows, and raise her game to meet and exceed the expectations.

(Just an aside about Sinead O'Connor... Why? Because I was listening to Tull the other other day wherein he's tearing the pope a new one all over Aqualung, which is a great album once you stop listening to "classic Rock Radio". I thought, how are the same people who sang along now all in a tither because she ripped up his picture....)

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« Reply #550 on: September 11, 2007, 11:16:03 PM »

MSNBC's two-hour show of 9/11 is basically loaded with baby-wipe and make your dick hard commercials along with the rest of the pharma and ordinary fear-mongering that accompanies the nightly news.  I'll never watch NBC's network nightly news shows again and consider the commercial exploitation of 9/11 in this particular manner, with all the favourite ad-time purchasers, extremely disrespectful of the victims of 9/11, and consider NBC corporate's underestimation of the American Public disgusting.  You are nothing but Fox Noise tonight, thanks a lot, assholes, and so long.

Is that really going to be the way you have YOUR story told?

Fucking pathetic, ordinary, and typical.

There is literally a scare drug every five minutes accompanying, wait, here's "Depend's," now "Tide Pure Essentials," now "Downy," now Morgage freak out, now CVS Pharmacy helping an old lady with "no family," "I guess I'm her son, now," says the pharmacist as he helps her pick out a drug plan...

"9/11" has now been used wrongly by NBC for profiteering that is not too far removed from what the Bush Administration has done.....you can't have it both ways and they don't get it and I'm washing my hands of NBC out of the lack of respect and disgust and disdain they have shown for the American people for not running the coverage uninterupted by ads, however welcome they might seem from the ignorant and ordinary patter of an understandably dumbfounded Couric, Lauer, weatherman.....

.....extraordinary disgust, this shouldn't be WWII war channel material yet, it's clearly exploitative and just in my mind so wrong.....

.....especially the clear connection between fear-mongering ads and really fearful cherry-picking of recent bad news, but this is different from nightly news because it's wearing a disguise, a lie, again...

FUCK NBC.
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« Reply #551 on: September 12, 2007, 01:18:38 AM »

Jbot, my sentiments, exactly, if I had watched the show, which I didn't.  I try not to watch anything on the Big Three.  The constant barrage of commercials--same ones, over and over and over--drives me to do and say things that make me socially unacceptable outside my home.

Not that I NEVER do.  There's something coming up on ABC near the end of the month called Dirty Stinking Money or some such title that, from the trailers, I'm afraid I'm going to like.  I also watched all those fat younguns walk 500 plus miles to earn $40,000.  So I guess I won't be growing wings anytime soon.

But you really nailed the gross commercialism of--what? You name it if it can be exploited.
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« Reply #552 on: September 12, 2007, 04:43:20 PM »

I remember 9/11 like it was yesterday!
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« Reply #553 on: September 12, 2007, 04:46:14 PM »

I remember 9/11 like it was yesterday!

Post this to the Comedy forum next time.

 Roll Eyes
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« Reply #554 on: September 12, 2007, 10:13:26 PM »

Last time there was a comedy forum, and I made comments about 9/11...well I don't like to remember it!
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