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bosox18d
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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2007, 12:03:29 AM »

Whiskey,Is there any way to move a pic from my documents into that spot.I just firured out how to do these things in my blog and now this.Maybe I'll look for a pic with a shorter URL.Teddy I'm getting the Ducks-Canucks on a local station from down in Orange County.
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teddy174c
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« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2007, 12:15:52 AM »

Also, I was the fan of Gaddis who kept trying (and failing) to get his A Frolic Of His Own read by others--can't recall what was so off-putting about it to others, but I was probably obnoxious in some way.    I've only now gotten to my second Gaddis, Carpenter's Gothic, which I posted about in Fiction.  Still have The Recognitions to look forward to.  

  

NY - Profuse apologies but I can't remember you recommending Gaddis! -- I'm thinking of about 1999 when Whiskey had just noted in I think the Books Suggestions forum - possiby pre-Meander - that he'd read an obit of Gaddis and went on to talk about Frolic -- anyway, I didn't read too clearly. 

I did try it and at that time there was a discussion on punctuation as it occurs in fiction through the centuries and Laurence Sterne's use of the dash was talked about -- and Gaddis likewise used nothing but dashes for punctuation.  It was, as (shoot -- Ducks just scored on the weary Canucks yet again) - noted above, a tale of a lawsuit and minute legal ins and outs -- but I only got to about page ten.

Bleak House also is a tale of legal ins and outs but mainly encapsulated in first sentence -- then on to the story.

No offence to Gaddis -- I'm pretty certain the lack was in self.

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bosox18d
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« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2007, 12:18:47 AM »

Teddy the name Adam Gopnick rang a bell and indeed he is the author of"Paris to the Moon" about his and his familys years in Paris when he wrote "Paris Journal" for The New Yorker.If I'm not mistaken he has written one recently about his New York neighborhood of recent years.I actually picked up last weeks copy of The New Yorker cause a friend said the article on Manny Ramirez was interesting and it was.I loved the cartoon about the Shotgun Bar Mitzvah.
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teddy174c
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« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2007, 12:20:11 AM »

Whiskey,Is there any way to move a pic from my documents into that spot.I just firured out how to do these things in my blog and now this.Maybe I'll look for a pic with a shorter URL.Teddy I'm getting the Ducks-Canucks on a local station from down in Orange County.

Bo - It's pretty sad so far and to add insult to injury some jerk down the hall blows a horn everytime the Ducks score and yells "go Ducks" (wise guy I guess).

If I were to make excuses, I'd say the Ducks were very well rested, whereas the Canucks only had one day to rest after gruelling seven game series.  But I don't make excuses -- by all logical accounting the Ducks will win, and indeed look to handily take this first game.
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2007, 12:25:08 AM »

Teddy the name Adam Gopnick rang a bell and indeed he is the author of"Paris to the Moon" about his and his familys years in Paris when he wrote "Paris Journal" for The New Yorker.If I'm not mistaken he has written one recently about his New York neighborhood of recent years.I actually picked up last weeks copy of The New Yorker cause a friend said the article on Manny Ramirez was interesting and it was.I loved the cartoon about the Shotgun Bar Mitzvah.

(What's excellent about these new forums is the allowance for editing -- I've managed to nip in and clean up a couple of things after posting in the last few seconds -- )

Bo-  I always enjoy Gopnik's writing as well as of course movie critics Anthony Lane and David Denby.  There's another writer == Jane Kramer is one of my favorite contributors to the NY  - most recent article "The Pope and Islam".

I'm going to have to thumb through to find the cartoon - can't remember seeing it!

On the books front, there was an indepth article on deceased Chilean writer Roberto Bolano's "The Savage Detectives" by Daniel Zalewski (I'm checking as I write this).  If I'm going to read a new writer - it may well be him if I can find the book.
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bosox18d
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« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2007, 12:30:21 AM »

Well Clean my Pigsty! The issue I have is the Adam Gopnick on Kinglsley Amis one.I just picked it up two days ago and have only read the Manny story so far.I was busy finishing Edith Wharton  last night.
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teddy174c
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« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2007, 12:35:31 AM »

Well Clean my Pigsty! The issue I have is the Adam Gopnick on Kinglsley Amis one.I just picked it up two days ago and have only read the Manny story so far.I was busy finishing Edith Wharton  last night.

Bo -- Well I think you might enjoy that article!

Excellent that you're reading Wharton -- an author I've never read.

Well, time to log off and lick wounds re this game -

I note that I was inadvertently logged on for a couple of hours while watching the game -- and it advises every (just scored again - dagger in heart) one how long each individual has been logged on -- I wonder if LiquidSilver could kindly remove that shaming feature.

5-1 first game defeat.  Vancouver must re-group.

Goodnight.
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« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2007, 10:59:38 AM »

Bosox, I credit Gopnik's "Paris to the Moon" for most of what I know about the French (along with "Fifty million Frenchmen Can't Be Wrong".)  I read the New Yorker online and always read anything Gopnik writes, and am never disappointed.

When I click "next" I am taken to the end of the next page of posts, not the beginning.  Of course I'm still learning my way around this site.  Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
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bosox18d
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« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2007, 11:04:11 PM »

All those emoticans have been red x's the past two days on my screen also Bingle.
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teddy174c
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« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2007, 11:28:40 PM »

Teddy; I didn't mean to imply that I brought up Gaddis & A Frolic Of His Own
first, but I do remember my enthusiasm about it and being surprised at the general  lack of same...no matter, I can see how Gaddis's writing can be off-putting because one must always, always read between the lines, which are usually lines of dialog that proceed by stagger--people going from thought to thought in incomplete sentences, interrupting themselves, etc.  In Frolic  much of the story of a man who ended up suing himself had to be gleaned from parsing fictional court documents, even a Supreme Court decision.  I thought it was all a splendid joke on lawyers and the law that I wanted to share. 

The beauty of the ever-proliferating web is that one can always find somewhere others who want to follow any particular thread.  (I was, and am, also a fan of Barbara Kingsolver...'nuf sed about that!)

Condolences of the athletic variety...






NY -- Well - you've inspired me again to read it -- I've got the same pleasant to the touch soft back - and now at bedside again.  I think key may be to making it through to 1/4 point and then free sailing.



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« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2007, 11:30:37 PM »

Oy, Teddy (smacking my forehead)  I can't see the pix next to "Smiley" "Wink" etc., but if you can, please apply "Embarrassed" to me! It took me until this afternoon to realize that at the time Gaddis & Frolic were being discussed, I had a different screen name--no wonder no one recalls me that far back.  (Choosing to believe that's the only reason...)

Dunno if it had anything to do with b'day observance, but last night's final Jeopardy! answer was "Nabokov"--all 3 contestants got it right, all 3 misspelled it.  (Clue had to do with him teaching the works of his countrymen at Cornell.) 



NY -- I think you're being more than a bit hard on yourself .  Regardless of name -- had you recommended this in MWM I should remember.  The key is -- had you by any other name recommended it in any other forum but MWM -- I may well not have seen.
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teddy174c
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« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2007, 11:31:45 PM »

Oy, Teddy (smacking my forehead)  I can't see the pix next to "Smiley" "Wink" etc., but if you can, please apply "Embarrassed" to me! It took me until this afternoon to realize that at the time Gaddis & Frolic were being discussed, I had a different screen name--no wonder no one recalls me that far back.  (Choosing to believe that's the only reason...)

Dunno if it had anything to do with b'day observance, but last night's final Jeopardy! answer was "Nabokov"--all 3 contestants got it right, all 3 misspelled it.  (Clue had to do with him teaching the works of his countrymen at Cornell.) 



Just found this ... http://www.williamgaddis.org/frolic/index.shtml
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Dzimas
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« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2007, 07:41:46 AM »

Good to see you too, grobin.  I've been catching some of the NBA games, if I'm up that early in the morning.  The West Coast games better suit my timetable.  Much of the buzz here in Vilnius surrounds Chicago and Clevelend, where Songaila and Ilgauskas play.  Kleiza, another Lithuanian, plays for Denver. 

Bookwise, I started Murakami's Underground, but haven't really gotten into it yet.
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Dzimas
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« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2007, 07:48:06 AM »

Well I'll be damned, I see that Songaila is a Wizard now. Shows you how much I've been keeping up with the NBA.  Chicago picked up the tall lanky Andriuskevicius.
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whiskeypriest
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« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2007, 08:19:47 AM »

Teddy; I didn't mean to imply that I brought up Gaddis & A Frolic Of His Own
first, but I do remember my enthusiasm about it and being surprised at the general  lack of same...no matter, I can see how Gaddis's writing can be off-putting because one must always, always read between the lines, which are usually lines of dialog that proceed by stagger--people going from thought to thought in incomplete sentences, interrupting themselves, etc.  In Frolic  much of the story of a man who ended up suing himself had to be gleaned from parsing fictional court documents, even a Supreme Court decision.  I thought it was all a splendid joke on lawyers and the law that I wanted to share. 
Splendid joke on lawyers, eh?  Careful - it doesn't cost us anything to sue the likes of you!

I abandoned Frolic in large measure because it was starting to look very much like a busman's holiday.

The beauty of the ever-proliferating web is that one can always find somewhere others who want to follow any particular thread.  (I was, and am, also a fan of Barbara Kingsolver...'nuf sed about that!)
Oooh!  Wonder if the mention of The Scottish Author will have the same effect here.  Do you really think it is a coinkidink that as soon as we started seriously considering a discussion of one of her books the NYT closed down everything?  The whole of the forums, kingsolvered at one fell swoop.
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