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« Reply #2430 on: June 22, 2008, 03:49:03 PM »

pugetopolis,re:#2402

Funny you should mention it. Since Meandering's minds are listing their Summer reading following Bin Ladens (plural) An Arabian Family in the American Century. I shall begin with The Golden Age by Gore Vidal. My favorite writer as the only realist in America.

He has written openly upon his sexuality (and that of several other folks on occasion)but he did it right from the start with his first published work,known as the one that The New York Times refused to review.

Incidentally, Dick Cavett said a strange thing in his this week account of attending his class reunion at Yale, where greeted by an even smarter classmate from fifty years ago who regaled him with the anecdote from the days when Dick didn't known what gay was.   

As his friend realized after mentioning to Cavett that he had just run into Will Gear on campus. Since Cavett and Gear have both been "actors", he asked if his classmate had actually talked to Gear?

Oh,yes, was the reply, "I asked what he was doing here on campus? To which he replied, 'Oh, just looking over the boys'."

It occurs to me now, Cavett must have had a very sheltered life but I think he once said that he came from Kansas or Nebraska.

Funny thought occurs to me now, mosca once told me he didn't think he would bother reading Auchincloss after asking me about Hugh, although I probably told him about Louis, and here's why he couldn't bother:

"A Novel Of Complex Family Ties Sets Off Guessing", New York Times, April 17, 1981. Retrieved on 2007-06-21. "Nina Gore Auchincloss Steers Straight's memories of her half-brother, Gore Vidal, though fragmented, are vivid. A photograph of me as a teeny baby, a fat thing sitting on Gore's lap. Then I never saw him again until I was 13 or 14, a bad speller, a bad grammarian, and he started me reading. I remember him shaking his finger and telling me, Now I want you to read Virginia Woolf and Thomas Hardy." 

Mosca thought that the cult of Washingtonian society interrelationships, as soon as you mentioned Jackie Bouvier Kennedy, in relationship to the Gores via the Auchincloss financiers,canceled out the literary ability of any of the members of the extended family. He just couldn't be bothered with some of the finest writers in America.
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« Reply #2431 on: June 22, 2008, 05:18:00 PM »

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Reading is good on the flight over, but I'll be surprised if (all) your noses are in books during the daylight hours while there.  Beauty everywhere !  Enjoy, enjoy!

Thanks much, kit.  Was last there with different family in 1977 after college graduation.  One day the newspaper we got to read on the beach had a headline story about the school I had just graduated from: Kent State (article was about decision in lawsuit over students killed/wounded in May 4, 1970 events and/or plans to build gym/complex on the site of same).  I recently dug up books I read before going then: a volume of Hawaiian myths & legends, a "literary chronicle" series of stories/essays, and Gavin Dawes's history A Shoal of Time (I think it was this one that gave me an attack of haole guilt).  This time will try to do as you suggest and focus on the natural beauty--I'm crazy about waterfalls, among other phenomena.   
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« Reply #2432 on: June 22, 2008, 07:38:50 PM »

There's a name I haven't seen in awhile.Gavin Dawes is the author of"Prisoners of the Japanese" a very disturbing book about the WW2 POW camps I read about ten years ago.I  Know he has an interest in things Pacific Islands.
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« Reply #2433 on: June 22, 2008, 07:43:19 PM »

  
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  Hiking, then swimming in those waterfalls, doesn't get much better than that...  Have visited the islands a handful of times -- each time more traffic -- Oahu in particular -- though "Turtle Bay" is quiet; I recommend staying there to anyone interested.

Fewer bird sightings on Kauai than ever last visit.  Heading west too this summer, but a bit more north, BC -- but (always) looking forward to that next island visit.  Kauai is so uniquely noncommercial, at least it was, it's been nearly five years for me. Since your last visit you're going to find it even more built up by comparison, but hopefully still unspoiled enough...
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« Reply #2434 on: June 23, 2008, 02:01:46 AM »

RIP George Carlin.
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« Reply #2435 on: June 24, 2008, 10:50:28 AM »

Thank goodness we are back in service.  I keep thinking about the benevolence of liquidsilver for keeping these boards up.
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« Reply #2436 on: June 24, 2008, 10:56:30 AM »

See my post today in arts/tv thread, with some Carlin quotes.

Seinfeld's obit in the NYT was terrific -- read it if you get the chance.  


He was about to receive the Twain Award -- I can't think of anyone who more earned one than Carlin.  And many of my internet taglines over the past decade would have been empty space were it not for him.  

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« Reply #2437 on: November 29, 2017, 04:40:05 PM »

Greek Olympic Marathon hero Spyros Louis did it all to impress a girl

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« Reply #2438 on: December 05, 2017, 12:02:07 PM »

French is a peculiar language (as are, sometimes, its native speakers).  For example,

blaireau means both "badger" and "shaving brush." 

This raises the possibility, at least for me, that a shaving brush used for badgers would be a:

blaireau de blaireau

If there are any native Francophones around, is this possible?  Answer whenever is convenient, I won't badger you about this.

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« Reply #2439 on: December 29, 2017, 01:29:56 PM »

But you may get in a lather.

Meanwhile, could it be because a shaving brush is made of badger fur? Entendre, je blaireau le blaireau pour marche une blaireua du blaireau. En garde blaireau!

Ich bein ein Berliner?

Because those darned French (and this is Elba, after all) the Word Napoleon refers to both a Naples derived tall pastry and a Elba banished short General.

Just goes to show you that George Carlin was better than Steve Martin. Because so many stupid things that Carlin said turned out to be smart, while Steve Martin said smart things like "Those French! They have a different word for EVERYTHING!" and that turns out to be stupidly wrong!
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« Reply #2440 on: January 05, 2018, 04:29:37 PM »

I am reading "The Prince" by Machiavelli. 

I am at the part in the book where he is saying that a prince who rises because of the love of the people is the best prince to be, and that the more you do for the people then the more they will love you. Then, when you need defended, the people rise up and defend you. And you tell them that the suffering is short and that conditions will improve, and then when conditions improve they love you more, and those who lost much will love you even more for what they have sacrificed to help you.

So, if one were to be a prince, then a prince who is loved by his people is the best prince to be, though you must maintain your relationship with the people by helping the people in good ways.

Nabis, Prince of the Spartans, is listed in the book as one of the princes who ruled wisely with the love of his people. 

Then of course there is progressive entrapment, and justification of effort, where people will love you more for having sacrificed to help you.

So, the more you do for your people then the more they love you, and the more that your people do for you then the more they will love you. It really is a case of people needing to love their neighbors, to create a better world, and the more that people share love then the more they get love.

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