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« Reply #16530 on: March 06, 2018, 06:08:59 AM »

National headline news yesterday in bambuland;

"US set to break promise made by Donald Trump to Malcolm Turnbull last July in Germany, that Australia would be exempt from any tariffs in the US on steel and aluminium imports."

Obviously Trump's word is not worth 'a Jatz cracker.'

https://www.arnotts.com.au/products/jatz/

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« Reply #16531 on: March 06, 2018, 07:05:24 AM »

seems like a vicious threat to me

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nra-video-threatens-journalists-gun-laws-us-florida-shooting-twitter-dana-loesch-a8240341.html

likely to incur a South American like response to media. better get a good body guard, Mika, Joe, Stephen, Jimmy, etc.
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« Reply #16532 on: March 06, 2018, 10:28:24 AM »

Think it's bad under Trump...it's worse under Turnbull.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/the-cancer-stricken-town-where-residents-are-left-to-rot-and-die/ar-BBJV7Ek?li=AAgfLCP&OCID=AVRES000

The cancer-stricken town where residents are left to 'rot and die'

“If I can put it as plainly as possible they're being left here to rot and die,” says Jarrod Sansom of the residents in his old home-town in New South Wales's Hunter Valley.
Jarrod was the sixth generation of Sansoms to live on Cabbage Tree Road, Williamtown.

He has fond memories of his childhood growing up in the semi-rural town. He recalls games of cricket on the lawn, jumping in the creeks, and picking lemons straight from the tree.
But now, walking through the old Cabbage Tree Road property brings him pain and anxiety. This five-kilometre stretch home to just over 80 houses has seen more than 50 separate cases of cancer, some of them quite rare.   

The anomaly has since been linked to the contamination of Williamtown properties surrounding the local RAAF base. For 40 years the nearby RAAF base used a firefighting foam - with suspected carcinogenic chemicals - which leached into the town's water supply.


 

We have that here in Jersey (old Dupont site)
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« Reply #16533 on: March 06, 2018, 10:44:40 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/asia/north-korea-summit-intl/index.html
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« Reply #16534 on: March 06, 2018, 11:19:34 AM »


Great news!

Its funny how Trump just could not resist making it seem as though he was personally involved in the negotiations to create the talks.

He wasn't:

http://theweek.com/speedreads/759197/phone-call-trump-said-north-korean-regime-actually-south-koreas-president
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« Reply #16535 on: March 06, 2018, 11:27:49 AM »

Trump White House quietly issues report vindicating Obama regulations

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/3/6/17077330/trump-regulatory-agenda-omb

As it happens, though, we know something about the costs and benefits of federal regulations. In fact, Trump’s own administration, specifically the (nonpartisan, at least for now) White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB), just released its annual report on that very subject. (Hat tip to E&E.)

The report was released late on a Friday, with Congress out of session and multiple Trump scandals dominating the headlines. A cynical observer might conclude that the administration wanted the report to go unnoticed.

Why might that be? Well, in a nutshell, it shows that the GOP is wrong about regulations as a general matter and wrong about Obama’s regulations specifically. Those regulations had benefits far in excess of their costs, and they had no discernible effect on jobs or economic growth.

OMB gathered data and analysis on “major” federal regulations (those with $100 million or more in economic impact) between 2006 and 2016, a period that includes all of Obama’s administration, stopping just short of Trump’s. The final tally, reported in 2001 dollars:
•Aggregate benefits: $219 to $695 billion
•Aggregate costs: $59 to $88 billion

By even the most conservative estimate, the benefits of Obama’s regulations wildly outweighed the costs.

According to OMB — and to the federal agencies upon whose data OMB mostly relied — the core of the Trumpian case against Obama regulations, arguably the organizing principle of Trump’s administration, is false.


Good stuff here.

Its a simple concept that Republicans I am sure understand but pretend they don't; a regulation may be there for a reason.  You can not take the stand that "all regulations are bad" or remove a regulation without doing some cost-benefit analysis.

No, for Republicans, regulations are all about who is paying the cost (donors) and who is benefiting (voters, who can be easily hoodwinked into thinking what is good for big business ie. those donors, is good for them.)  That's the only formula they care about.  

But here is proof that regulations actually create economic benefits.  And the Trump Administration will, of course, ignore it.
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« Reply #16536 on: March 06, 2018, 12:13:25 PM »


Right - and he has nothing to do with N Korea thinking maybe its time to give up the nukes

Gotcha.
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« Reply #16537 on: March 06, 2018, 12:35:07 PM »

It’s all theater.

He’s making noise about being a “Stand Up Guy” before he spills to Mueller.

Fuck him. I hope he gets steamrolled by Mueller...
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« Reply #16538 on: March 06, 2018, 12:42:21 PM »

he's not on Fox



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« Reply #16539 on: March 06, 2018, 12:46:26 PM »

Trump White House quietly issues report vindicating Obama regulations

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/3/6/17077330/trump-regulatory-agenda-omb

As it happens, though, we know something about the costs and benefits of federal regulations. In fact, Trump’s own administration, specifically the (nonpartisan, at least for now) White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB), just released its annual report on that very subject. (Hat tip to E&E.)

The report was released late on a Friday, with Congress out of session and multiple Trump scandals dominating the headlines. A cynical observer might conclude that the administration wanted the report to go unnoticed.

Why might that be? Well, in a nutshell, it shows that the GOP is wrong about regulations as a general matter and wrong about Obama’s regulations specifically. Those regulations had benefits far in excess of their costs, and they had no discernible effect on jobs or economic growth.

OMB gathered data and analysis on “major” federal regulations (those with $100 million or more in economic impact) between 2006 and 2016, a period that includes all of Obama’s administration, stopping just short of Trump’s. The final tally, reported in 2001 dollars:
•Aggregate benefits: $219 to $695 billion
•Aggregate costs: $59 to $88 billion

By even the most conservative estimate, the benefits of Obama’s regulations wildly outweighed the costs.

According to OMB — and to the federal agencies upon whose data OMB mostly relied — the core of the Trumpian case against Obama regulations, arguably the organizing principle of Trump’s administration, is false.


Good stuff here.

Its a simple concept that Republicans I am sure understand but pretend they don't; a regulation may be there for a reason.  You can not take the stand that "all regulations are bad" or remove a regulation without doing some cost-benefit analysis.

No, for Republicans, regulations are all about who is paying the cost (donors) and who is benefiting (voters, who can be easily hoodwinked into thinking what is good for big business ie. those donors, is good for them.)  That's the only formula they care about.  

But here is proof that regulations actually create economic benefits.  And the Trump Administration will, of course, ignore it.


Look!  Barbara Streisand cloned her dog!  TWICE! 
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« Reply #16540 on: March 06, 2018, 01:07:23 PM »


Right - and he has nothing to do with N Korea thinking maybe its time to give up the nukes

Gotcha.

Good. You are catching up.
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« Reply #16541 on: March 06, 2018, 01:13:07 PM »

Right - and he has nothing to do with N Korea thinking maybe its time to give up the nukes

Gotcha.

I didn't say that.  I said that Trump was falsely claiming to have brokered the talks.  He did not.  This is fact.

I wouldn't know what is bringing North Korea to the table, and doubt its any one thing, but I imagine the combination of sanctions and back channel negotiations that the Trump Administration has continued from the Obama Administration is working.  And if there is a significant détente and a real deal that has North Korea giving up their nukes, Trump will deserve credit for that, as any President would (regardless of how personally involved they were.)

But we've been here before.  And North Korea is hard to pin down.  Luckily, there is little chance the opposing party will undercut the deal, as Republicans did to Clinton, and to Obama (re: Iran)
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« Reply #16542 on: March 06, 2018, 01:28:18 PM »

Wasn't it Robert Gates who liked to say (re NK and disarming), "I'm tired of buying the same horse twice." 

The main thing is to keep Trump out of the process as much as possible.  And keep smuggling those bootleg dvd copies of Mad Men across the northern border. 
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« Reply #16543 on: March 06, 2018, 01:47:25 PM »


Exactly.

Why cover real news about a witness in a special investigation who is publicly stating he will defy a subpoena for evidence, when you can do an evening making fun of Hollywood liberals?

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« Reply #16544 on: March 06, 2018, 02:00:26 PM »

The whole thing was a farce - and MSNBC/CNN willing particpants.
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