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« on: April 16, 2007, 08:57:47 PM »

Discuss the national drug policy.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2007, 05:19:31 PM »

I just got back from Jamaica. 

We took a tour and asked the guide about Marijuana policy.

"No one goes to jail for Marijuana"

what about growers?

"If ya neighbor a stiff-neck and call the police on you, and you is growing nothing but ganja crops, then YES, you're in a likka hot water.Bbut if they come and see some ganja plants but you're also planting the yellow yam, and other crops, they don't mess with you and get angry at your neighbor for causing them the trouble."
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2007, 02:21:57 PM »

I just got back from Jamaica. 

We took a tour and asked the guide about Marijuana policy.

"No one goes to jail for Marijuana"

what about growers?

"If ya neighbor a stiff-neck and call the police on you, and you is growing nothing but ganja crops, then YES, you're in a likka hot water.Bbut if they come and see some ganja plants but you're also planting the yellow yam, and other crops, they don't mess with you and get angry at your neighbor for causing them the trouble."

Do they grow good stuff down there?
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2007, 02:32:29 PM »

I just got back from Jamaica. 

We took a tour and asked the guide about Marijuana policy.

"No one goes to jail for Marijuana"

what about growers?

"If ya neighbor a stiff-neck and call the police on you, and you is growing nothing but ganja crops, then YES, you're in a likka hot water.Bbut if they come and see some ganja plants but you're also planting the yellow yam, and other crops, they don't mess with you and get angry at your neighbor for causing them the trouble."

Do they grow good stuff down there?

It depends.  On the street you can get "Bush weed" or you can get "High Grade".  Of course, everyone calls what they're selling high grade.  The stuff you can get (as a tourist) is not what Americans expect in terms of high grade stuff.  It has its share of seeds.  Its not perfectly cured.  It may even be a little wet from the humidity in the air (difficult for spliff rolling). Its green and good, but not the kind of hydroponically grown, indoor nugget that is distributed by your local college campus hippie.  This is the herb grown locally on the island outdoors by farmers who want to supplement their income to build houses.  The home lending rate is over 40% so you can't just take out a loan to build your house.  Many homes are built out of pocket over the span of many years.  The nicer homes that sprout quicker are usually the home of a farmer who was taken to growing the Marijuana plant.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2007, 06:06:27 PM »

I just got back from Jamaica. 

We took a tour and asked the guide about Marijuana policy.

"No one goes to jail for Marijuana"

what about growers?

"If ya neighbor a stiff-neck and call the police on you, and you is growing nothing but ganja crops, then YES, you're in a likka hot water.Bbut if they come and see some ganja plants but you're also planting the yellow yam, and other crops, they don't mess with you and get angry at your neighbor for causing them the trouble."

Do they grow good stuff down there?

It depends.  On the street you can get "Bush weed" or you can get "High Grade".  Of course, everyone calls what they're selling high grade.  The stuff you can get (as a tourist) is not what Americans expect in terms of high grade stuff.  It has its share of seeds.  Its not perfectly cured.  It may even be a little wet from the humidity in the air (difficult for spliff rolling). Its green and good, but not the kind of hydroponically grown, indoor nugget that is distributed by your local college campus hippie.  This is the herb grown locally on the island outdoors by farmers who want to supplement their income to build houses.  The home lending rate is over 40% so you can't just take out a loan to build your house.  Many homes are built out of pocket over the span of many years.  The nicer homes that sprout quicker are usually the home of a farmer who was taken to growing the Marijuana plant.

I suppose that might also be the case for some farmers in America as well.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2007, 06:11:57 PM »

I just got back from Jamaica. 

We took a tour and asked the guide about Marijuana policy.

"No one goes to jail for Marijuana"

what about growers?

"If ya neighbor a stiff-neck and call the police on you, and you is growing nothing but ganja crops, then YES, you're in a likka hot water.Bbut if they come and see some ganja plants but you're also planting the yellow yam, and other crops, they don't mess with you and get angry at your neighbor for causing them the trouble."

Do they grow good stuff down there?

It depends.  On the street you can get "Bush weed" or you can get "High Grade".  Of course, everyone calls what they're selling high grade.  The stuff you can get (as a tourist) is not what Americans expect in terms of high grade stuff.  It has its share of seeds.  Its not perfectly cured.  It may even be a little wet from the humidity in the air (difficult for spliff rolling). Its green and good, but not the kind of hydroponically grown, indoor nugget that is distributed by your local college campus hippie.  This is the herb grown locally on the island outdoors by farmers who want to supplement their income to build houses.  The home lending rate is over 40% so you can't just take out a loan to build your house.  Many homes are built out of pocket over the span of many years.  The nicer homes that sprout quicker are usually the home of a farmer who was taken to growing the Marijuana plant.

I suppose that might also be the case for some farmers in America as well.

In Mexico maybe but I don't think so here.

I doubt any of the "professional" grow operations are done by farmers, at least outdoors.  Most of the "high grade" that is consumed in the NorthEast comes from Canadian indoor hidden greenhouses.  Some is grown domestically, but again mostly indoors (thats why we don't find too many seeds) and on a much smaller scale due to the surveillance that the "War on Drugs" has brought on in America.

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2007, 06:39:19 PM »

I just got back from Jamaica. 

We took a tour and asked the guide about Marijuana policy.

"No one goes to jail for Marijuana"

what about growers?

"If ya neighbor a stiff-neck and call the police on you, and you is growing nothing but ganja crops, then YES, you're in a likka hot water.Bbut if they come and see some ganja plants but you're also planting the yellow yam, and other crops, they don't mess with you and get angry at your neighbor for causing them the trouble."

Do they grow good stuff down there?

It depends.  On the street you can get "Bush weed" or you can get "High Grade".  Of course, everyone calls what they're selling high grade.  The stuff you can get (as a tourist) is not what Americans expect in terms of high grade stuff.  It has its share of seeds.  Its not perfectly cured.  It may even be a little wet from the humidity in the air (difficult for spliff rolling). Its green and good, but not the kind of hydroponically grown, indoor nugget that is distributed by your local college campus hippie.  This is the herb grown locally on the island outdoors by farmers who want to supplement their income to build houses.  The home lending rate is over 40% so you can't just take out a loan to build your house.  Many homes are built out of pocket over the span of many years.  The nicer homes that sprout quicker are usually the home of a farmer who was taken to growing the Marijuana plant.

I suppose that might also be the case for some farmers in America as well.

In Mexico maybe but I don't think so here.

I doubt any of the "professional" grow operations are done by farmers, at least outdoors.  Most of the "high grade" that is consumed in the NorthEast comes from Canadian indoor hidden greenhouses.  Some is grown domestically, but again mostly indoors (thats why we don't find too many seeds) and on a much smaller scale due to the surveillance that the "War on Drugs" has brought on in America.



I have friends with a large farm and they grow a few plants each year for their own comsumption.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2007, 08:40:14 PM »

The War on Drugs claims a few more lives.

ATLANTA (April 26) -- Two police officers pleaded guilty Thursday to federal and state charges, including manslaughter, in the death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched drug raid in which 39 gunshots were fired into her home and marijuana was planted there to cover up the crime.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/two-cops-plead-guilty-in-fatal-shooting/20070426093309990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2007, 05:53:00 AM »

The War on Drugs claims a few more lives.

ATLANTA (April 26) -- Two police officers pleaded guilty Thursday to federal and state charges, including manslaughter, in the death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched drug raid in which 39 gunshots were fired into her home and marijuana was planted there to cover up the crime.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/two-cops-plead-guilty-in-fatal-shooting/20070426093309990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001




Thank  you for this story.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2007, 08:10:13 PM »

Former President Bill Clinton announced agreements with drug companies Tuesday to lower the price in the developing world of AIDS drugs resistant to initial treatments and to make a once-a-day AIDS pill available for less than $1 a day.

Good for Clinton.  The Clintons are great, civic minded people.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2007, 03:46:55 PM »

$1 a day sounds good, til i remember in developing countries you might be lucky to pull down $30 a week to feed your family.  Still..  progress it would seem.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2007, 08:12:50 PM »

$1 a day sounds good, til i remember in developing countries you might be lucky to pull down $30 a week to feed your family.  Still..  progress it would seem.

I don't know this for a fact, but I believe that most of these drugs are paid for through grants and donations from charities like the Gates Foundation.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2007, 09:01:45 PM »

Discuss the national drug policy.

Do we actually have one?
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2007, 12:42:47 PM »

Discuss the national drug policy.

Do we actually have one?

Sure, sell more.
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2007, 09:15:27 AM »

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Most of the "high grade" that is consumed in the NorthEast comes from Canadian indoor hidden greenhouses.

kam;
 Wow. You seem to be very well-informed about this marijuana subject. Of personal interest to you or just part of your 'casual' reading?

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