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Question: Do you think the government should or should not spend the money that would be required for research and possible development of a defense system against nuclear missiles?
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« on: April 16, 2007, 08:59:28 PM »

Discuss issues of national security
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2007, 06:21:44 AM »

I feel far less safe in this country than I did on 9/10.
Fortunately, 1/20/2009 isn't THAT far away.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2007, 07:16:09 AM »

Cap,

What is the significance of 1/20/09? Oh, that is when a new president will be sworn in. It's pretty obvious that a Democrat will be elected, but which one, and whether it is someone who will make a difference, or be just another flavor of the same old, remains to be seen.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2007, 01:00:59 PM »

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What is the significance of 1/20/09? Oh, that is when a new president will be sworn in. It's pretty obvious that a Democrat will be elected, but which one, and whether it is someone who will make a difference, or be just another flavor of the same old, remains to be seen.


That's the day the new president will be inaugrated.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2007, 08:30:31 AM »

My hero, Dr. Suzanne Gratia Hupp, was not allowed by Texas law to carry her handgun into Luby’s Cafeteria that fateful day in 1991, when due to bureaucrat-forced unarmed helplessness she could do nothing to stop satanic George Hennard from killing 23 people and wounding more than 20 others before he shot himself. Hupp was unarmed for no other reason than denial-ridden “feel good” politics.


No one was foolish enough to debate Ryder truck regulations or ammonia nitrate restrictions or a “cult of agriculture fertilizer” following the unabashed evil of Timothy McVeigh’s heinous crime against America on that fateful day in Oklahoma City.

No one faulted kitchen utensils or other hardware of choice after Jeffrey Dahmer was caught drugging, mutilating, raping, murdering and cannibalizing his victims.

Nobody wanted “steak knife control” as they autopsied the dead nurses in Chicago, Illinois, as Richard Speck went on trial for mass murder.

Evil is as evil does, and laws disarming guaranteed victims make evil people very, very happy. Shame on us.

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2007, 08:36:49 AM »

While the Muslim Brotherhood’s Western enablers mount an Islamist charm offensive in the US, doing their best to portray the world’s most pervasive Islamic supremacist group as “moderate” and “non-violent,” back home in Egypt the “general guide” of the Brotherhood, Muhammad Mahdi ‘Akef, is calling for attacks against the US and Israel.

And liberals will continue to sit back and patiently wait, like the sheep that they are, for something nasty to happen here---and then blame bush or republicans for whatever happens. Pathetic.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2007, 09:02:53 AM »

While the Muslim Brotherhood’s Western enablers mount an Islamist charm offensive in the US, doing their best to portray the world’s most pervasive Islamic supremacist group as “moderate” and “non-violent,” back home in Egypt the “general guide” of the Brotherhood, Muhammad Mahdi ‘Akef, is calling for attacks against the US and Israel.

And liberals will continue to sit back and patiently wait, like the sheep that they are, for something nasty to happen here---and then blame bush or republicans for whatever happens. Pathetic.

So, your proposal would be to attack Egypt with nuclear weapons?
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2007, 09:11:33 AM »

While the Muslim Brotherhood’s Western enablers mount an Islamist charm offensive in the US, doing their best to portray the world’s most pervasive Islamic supremacist group as “moderate” and “non-violent,” back home in Egypt the “general guide” of the Brotherhood, Muhammad Mahdi ‘Akef, is calling for attacks against the US and Israel.

And liberals will continue to sit back and patiently wait, like the sheep that they are, for something nasty to happen here---and then blame bush or republicans for whatever happens. Pathetic.

Last I checked it was Bush that was Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces -- what is he doing to address this issue exactly?
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2007, 10:49:34 AM »

While the Muslim Brotherhood’s Western enablers mount an Islamist charm offensive in the US, doing their best to portray the world’s most pervasive Islamic supremacist group as “moderate” and “non-violent,” back home in Egypt the “general guide” of the Brotherhood, Muhammad Mahdi ‘Akef, is calling for attacks against the US and Israel.

And liberals will continue to sit back and patiently wait, like the sheep that they are, for something nasty to happen here---and then blame bush or republicans for whatever happens. Pathetic.

Last I checked it was Bush that was Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces -- what is he doing to address this issue exactly?

Nothing.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2007, 12:54:29 PM »

The Christian right has lured tens of millions of Americans, who rightly feel abandoned and betrayed by the political system, from the reality-based world to one of magic -- to fantastic visions of angels and miracles, to a childlike belief that God has a plan for them and Jesus will guide and protect them. This mythological worldview, one that has no use for science or dispassionate, honest intellectual inquiry, one that promises that the loss of jobs and health insurance does not matter, as long as you are right with Jesus, offers a lying world of consistency that addresses the emotional yearnings of desperate followers at the expense of reality. It creates a world where facts become interchangeable with opinions, where lies become true -- the very essence of the totalitarian state. It includes a dark license to kill, to obliterate all those who do not conform to this vision, from Muslims in the Middle East to those at home who refuse to submit to the movement. And it conveniently empowers a rapacious oligarchy whose god is maximum profit at the expense of citizens.

This sounds like the thinking of our resident neocon, NGC.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2007, 03:12:59 PM »

The mainstream media, clearly "biased to the left," is relentlessly negative about the United States and all things pro-American.

So, too, are the congressional leaders of America's leftist Democratic Party. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D.-Nev., days ago declared that the current U.S. military enterprise in Iraq had lost, a shockingly partisan act of political opportunism that cannot help but harm the morale of American troops still risking their lives in the field there.

This is yet more evidence to support those critics who say that the Democratic Party, having bet all its chips on an American defeat in Iraq, must now do everything in its power to undermine whatever might lead to even a marginal victory there.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2007, 03:16:06 PM »

Twenty-eight percent of college students in a recent game experiment were strongly predisposed to penalize those who earned considerably more money than they did, even when this gained the 28 percent nothing and cost them dearly.

One possible reason for this, wrote University of California San Diego political scientists Christopher T. Dawes, James H. Fowler and colleagues in the April 12 issue of the British science journal Nature, could be that "inequality itself arouses negative emotions."

"[F]inding that humans have an innate tendency toward enforcing a norm of income equality," wrote science journalist Ronald Bailey about this research in the April 20 issue of the libertarian magazine Reason, "would explain the persistent attraction of communism, progressive tax rates, the demand for universal government-supplied health care, minimum wage laws, and other such destructive modern leveling ideologies and policies."

Liberalism IS simply pathetic---whatta buncha losers!!
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2007, 03:56:25 PM »

The mainstream media, clearly "biased to the left," is relentlessly negative about the United States and all things pro-American.

So, too, are the congressional leaders of America's leftist Democratic Party. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D.-Nev., days ago declared that the current U.S. military enterprise in Iraq had lost, a shockingly partisan act of political opportunism that cannot help but harm the morale of American troops still risking their lives in the field there.

This is yet more evidence to support those critics who say that the Democratic Party, having bet all its chips on an American defeat in Iraq, must now do everything in its power to undermine whatever might lead to even a marginal victory there.


Reid was only telling the truth.  The war in Iraq has been lost.  The president is in a state of denial.  Even the military will tell you this.  Open your eyes, oh blind neocon.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2007, 06:17:10 PM »

Iron sneer in place, Max Factored rosy cheeks aglow with outrage, Mister Cheney raced to the nearest microphone to accuse Senator Reid of....of...of everything bad--to include, but not be limited to, wanting America To Lose, wanting to Let Our Troops Down, etc., etc.  Desperate times summon the Veep and like the magic mill of legend, he continues to grind it out.  He's eager to provide talking points for the drive-time AM talk brigadiers, and in about a 24-hour news cycle, Cheney's hasty & ruinous response to Reid will become Received Truthiness...and News.  The manful efforts made by Republican politicians who have "gone to Iraq" [kevlar jammies, guards, choppers waiting to whisk them to safety] and come back with wonders to relate--well, they may discover that loyalty like that may let them down on election day.  For their own good, shouldn't they stay away from microphones?  I mean, talk about pitiful!
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2007, 06:23:40 PM »

Iron sneer in place, Max Factored rosy cheeks aglow with outrage, Mister Cheney raced to the nearest microphone to accuse Senator Reid of....of...of everything bad--to include, but not be limited to, wanting America To Lose, wanting to Let Our Troops Down, etc., etc.  Desperate times summon the Veep and like the magic mill of legend, he continues to grind it out.  He's eager to provide talking points for the drive-time AM talk brigadiers, and in about a 24-hour news cycle, Cheney's hasty & ruinous response to Reid will become Received Truthiness...and News.  The manful efforts made by Republican politicians who have "gone to Iraq" [kevlar jammies, guards, choppers waiting to whisk them to safety] and come back with wonders to relate--well, they may discover that loyalty like that may let them down on election day.  For their own good, shouldn't they stay away from microphones?  I mean, talk about pitiful!

LOL...yes, pathetic.
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