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Voting closed: November 24, 2018, 07:55:14 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #105 on: August 01, 2018, 12:48:10 PM »

Re:  "gun groups logic"

- and of course you will attach this to an entire nation of Trump supporters, Republicans.....

Where are you at on home brewed automatic rifles?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #106 on: August 01, 2018, 01:24:36 PM »

Same as I am with homemade bombs.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #107 on: August 01, 2018, 01:30:14 PM »

Same as I am with homemade bombs.

Home made bombs are a favorite tool among many of trumpís fringy supporters. Are you in support of the right to make homemade bombs?
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« Reply #108 on: August 01, 2018, 01:59:55 PM »

Regardless - they paint a picture that every border case is a lost kid situation. 

No, they didn't. They painted the picture that over 3,000 kids were unwillingly separated from their parents, which is number provided them by the administration.

Do you expect the border patrol to decide case by case which parent/kid combinations get to enter and stay, no questions asked?  To let everyone in?  What, exactly?

They could, I don't know, do what they did before the Trump Administration instituted a zero tolerance policy this spring that they knew full well would result in kids being taken from their parents.  But for Trump the cruelty is the point.  They saw the separation policy as a deterrent. 

That you would argue that they had no choice makes clear that you either aren't following the story, or that you have no interest in discussing this in good faith.

Children were put in foster care under the Obama administration after parents were deported.  And others, like now, were able to be placed with relatives in the US.
Except with the deportation there is notice and time to arrange matters before the current were placed, usually with families. Forcible separation and immediate detaining in what are in all but name prison camps is a different matter.
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We are trying to LOWER the entries at the border.  Please - make a better effort in understanding this.
The deliberate infliction of cruelty is the issue. The means matters, regardless of the end. If you favor permanent loss of a child as punishment for seeking asylum, admit it and take the heat. Or find another policy that meets your end.
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The "3000" are the unfortunate who have been temporarily caught up in the changing system.
They were not "caught up." They were targets and examples for the enforcement of the policy.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #109 on: August 01, 2018, 02:17:09 PM »

Same as I am with homemade bombs.

Home made bombs are a favorite tool among many of trumpís fringy supporters. Are you in support of the right to make homemade bombs?

I support what is legal.

I think they frown upon even the making of an explosive device.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #110 on: August 01, 2018, 02:41:31 PM »

Re:  "gun groups logic"

- and of course you will attach this to an entire nation of Trump supporters, Republicans.....

Where did you get that,  from what I posted?   Many GOP are opposed to the extreme position.  Ghost guns are already illegal,  a policy with strong bipartisan support.   In an age with 3D printers,  banning the dissemination of blueprints for them is common sense enforcement. 

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #111 on: August 01, 2018, 03:23:20 PM »

You need an ID card to buy milk now?
No, but if you are an idiot and  have no filter between whatever thought passes into your brain and your mouth, and have probably never set foot in a grocery store your entire adult life, you might SAY an ID is required to buy groceries.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #112 on: August 01, 2018, 04:11:20 PM »

I am clearly missing some context for this anecdote.   Are you self-identifying as an idiot grocery virgin who lacks a filter,  or was your anecdotal reply in response to an earlier post from said idiot, and of a satiric nature?   Or,  more alarming,  did you experience some kind of trauma that erased all grocery protocols from your mind? 

OK,  guess you mean Trump.  I sometimes forget what forum I'm in.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #113 on: August 01, 2018, 04:13:35 PM »

I am clearly missing some context for this anecdote.   Are you self-identifying as an idiot grocery virgin who lacks a filter,  or was your anecdotal reply in response to an earlier post from said idiot, and of a satiric nature?   Or,  more alarming,  did you experience some kind of trauma that erased all grocery protocols from your mind?   Or did you just mean you forgot your wallet and realized you would have to drive very carefully on your return trip?

Trump said you need an ID to buy groceries.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/01/politics/trump-grocery-shopping-id/index.html
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #114 on: August 01, 2018, 04:19:46 PM »

Yeah, man - hate those fuckers that never have to buy groceries.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2018, 04:26:06 PM by kiidcarter8 »
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« Reply #115 on: August 01, 2018, 04:28:12 PM »

I am clearly missing some context for this anecdote.   Are you self-identifying as an idiot grocery virgin who lacks a filter,  or was your anecdotal reply in response to an earlier post from said idiot, and of a satiric nature?   Or,  more alarming,  did you experience some kind of trauma that erased all grocery protocols from your mind?   Or did you just mean you forgot your wallet and realized you would have to drive very carefully on your return trip?

Trump said you need an ID to buy groceries.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/01/politics/trump-grocery-shopping-id/index.html

Thanks.   I went back and modified my post,  and then saw yours.   

Wow.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #116 on: August 01, 2018, 04:32:05 PM »

Re:  "gun groups logic"

- and of course you will attach this to an entire nation of Trump supporters, Republicans.....

Where did you get that,  from what I posted?   Many GOP are opposed to the extreme position.  Ghost guns are already illegal,  a policy with strong bipartisan support.   In an age with 3D printers,  banning the dissemination of blueprints for them is common sense enforcement.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #117 on: August 01, 2018, 04:50:52 PM »

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

TRUMP back up to 48%

51% his high water mark for the year
59% his high water mark overall
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #118 on: August 01, 2018, 05:21:46 PM »

I am clearly missing some context for this anecdote.   Are you self-identifying as an idiot grocery virgin who lacks a filter,  or was your anecdotal reply in response to an earlier post from said idiot, and of a satiric nature?   Or,  more alarming,  did you experience some kind of trauma that erased all grocery protocols from your mind? 

OK,  guess you mean Trump.  I sometimes forget what forum I'm in.
No! NO! Our Peerless Leader is Incapable of Error!

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399916-sanders-defends-trump-claim-that-grocery-stores-require-id

Does she have any credibility left?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #119 on: August 01, 2018, 05:45:25 PM »

Yeah, man - hate those fuckers that never have to buy groceries.

I don't think anyone asserted that.

So...one should love/excuse a guy who is demonstrating how disconnected he is from the common American's experience?

Hardly a very American thing to do. We don't have royalty in this country.

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