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« on: April 16, 2007, 09:04:40 PM »

Discuss Western European politics.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2007, 07:10:21 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2007, 10:42:17 PM »

How about a discussion of the French Elections?
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2007, 02:42:45 PM »

If Royal does indeed intend to appoint Bayrou as her PM, I'd prefer her to Sarkozy, whom I fear will cause too much social upheaval to bring about the necessary economic reforms. Bayrou would have been an ideal candidate.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2007, 08:05:26 AM »

An end of an era as Blair announces he will step down as PM.  It was interesting to hear that Gordon Brown, the heir apparent, is largely responsible for the British economic revival, not Blair, but then Blair has done some pretty amazing things these past years, including pushing through devolution resulting in independent parliaments and finally a semi-autonomous government in Northern Ireland.  However, Iraq will continue to hang around his neck like an albatross.  It was interesting to hear Fischer note that Blair missed a golden opportunity in forging a stronger EU by going along with the war in Iraq.  Instead, the EU became ever more deeply divided, and seems it will remain so with conservatives like Sarkozy rising to the fore.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2007, 03:51:05 PM »

Bush is more alone than ever....
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2007, 04:00:37 PM »

He still has Armenia....
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2007, 12:54:33 AM »

At this point, I don't think Bush cares.  He struck the bilateral agreements he was looking for, including the recent ones that allow him to deploy his so-called missile defense system in Eastern Europe.  He also has pretty much been able to sidestep the International Court with numerous bilateral agreements that would allow for the extradition of any Americans brought up on charges.  What gets me is how Bush has been successfully able to play the East against the West, and even divide the West like he did during the build-up to the Iraq War.  His administration also had his fun and games with the dollar in trying to break the euro. Pure Machiavelli.  I suppose history will reward him as a shrewd tactician if nothing else, but this is more a result of the nexus of neo-cons that influence his administration (like Wolfowitz and Pearle) than it is Bush who probably couldn't name all the members of the EU even if he had a map of Europe in front of him.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2007, 12:55:36 AM »

Extradition being the wrong word there.  I meant safe passage out of Europe.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2007, 06:57:04 PM »

Surprise.

Sarkozy proposed to several former socialist ministers to be ministers in his government : Claude Allègre (former Education minister), Hubert Védrine (former foreign minister of Mitterrand and Jospin), Bernard Kouchner (former Health minister, who founded the NGO Doctors Without Boundaries -MSF)

It's only a political tactic, but very clever.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2007, 03:39:21 PM »

I wonder how many of those Socialist and Centrist ministers stay after the upcoming legislative elections?

Also, can we start a pool on the first banlieu riots now that Sarko is in power?
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2007, 12:54:59 PM »

Should be right about now, this summer, when the better provided leave on their vacances.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2007, 05:15:48 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2007, 10:09:14 PM »

Hi Fabrice and everyone.

Here is a short student film that I did at USC Film School:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ2wBMgs-lQ

I hope you are all doing great.

Salute,

Tony V.
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2007, 11:21:53 AM »

Tony,

Fabrice never left Paris or Western Europe, except for his summer vacations to Montecarlo (he sent some wonderful photos of his June 2007 vacance downloaded of the entire region like St.Jean les Pins,etc.)and, although, he also gets around to islands off Italy, for religious ordination of a friend,etc. , or to the countryside overlooking Ludwig's Bavarian Castle, he remains at the Labor Bureau overlooking the Luxembourg Gardens.  I last "saw" him, theoretically, on-line while he was campaigning in France's Spring Election for his party and he wanted to know the results coming in of opinion in a forum that he began, so I "babysat" on-line (isabel_k was there, so you know how that goes).

So although he signed up here and is on the membership list, and told me to sign up and possibly a few others, he has never posted as far as I've noticed.

Other than the immediate above remarks.
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