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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Hamilton Samuels

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56760 on: November 12, 2020, 08:31:39 AM »

Paywall. But good analysis of McConnell-Biden potential for cooperation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/where-biden-and-mcconnell-can-agree-11605031093
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56761 on: November 12, 2020, 09:43:25 AM »

Is bodiddley Chinese?

He's posted many times about being from New Jersey.   

Catching up here - some good rebuttals to Red's red-baiting. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56762 on: November 12, 2020, 09:46:06 AM »

I dont dispute Biden won.
I point out the democrats lost the war



Nah...

I ain't buyin that

Presidency is a terrific win, if they get it

Sort of like an NFL team winning a game that would have eliminated them from playoffs - but losing their top receiver in the game

If Trump takes it in court - there went the All Pro QB
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56763 on: November 12, 2020, 09:51:44 AM »

Is bodiddley Chinese?

He's posted many times about being from New Jersey.   


Could be both
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56764 on: November 12, 2020, 09:56:06 AM »

Paywall. But good analysis of McConnell-Biden potential for cooperation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/where-biden-and-mcconnell-can-agree-11605031093

Cut/paste, bro.   The WSJ paywall falls instantly and no Ken Jennings thumb move on the stopload button will thwart it.   
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Re: Community policing
« Reply #56765 on: November 12, 2020, 09:59:59 AM »



Communities that have reformed and improved have created partnerships between the police and key members of the community who have influence. Together, they've defined "protect and serve" as protecting the citizenry and serving the community as being the responsibility of the police AND the people.


See no sign that Josh would disagree with this.   All this in response to him making a Twilight Zone joke?   
« Last Edit: November 12, 2020, 10:05:17 AM by barton »
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Re: Democratic Messaging
« Reply #56766 on: November 12, 2020, 10:14:50 AM »

"Defund the Police" needs to give way to "Fund our Communities" and "Re-train the Police"

How about if the police and the community sit down and have a chat about what this phrase means, first: "Protect and Serve".

Is that by the same author as "To Serve Man?"

The question is a valid one. Every community needs to determine, first, what it means for its police to "protect and serve" that community.

That you want to dismiss that question do readily tells us you aren't serious about examining the complex issues that surround policing communities effectively and with the collaboration of a given community.

That you want to pretend that my comment was a serious response is on you, not me.

Dodge and duck, Josh. It's what you do.

Ignoring the truth is what you do whenever it is inconvenient.

If you didn't get the joke, it's okay, Ham.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56767 on: November 12, 2020, 11:15:30 AM »

https://www.ajc.com/politics/trump-hires-election-lawyers-who-were-supposed-to-defend-georgia/WNCZZOIDZFEF3PYKEV3IROORRI

Is it appropriate for a law firm that is defending the state's election practices in one suit to work against them in another?!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56768 on: November 12, 2020, 11:19:37 AM »

https://twitter.com/ragingina/status/1326622687112933376

No wonder that Amy McGrath lost so badly!
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« Reply #56769 on: November 12, 2020, 11:33:37 AM »

It's hard to parse an argument out of Red's non-sequiturs.

So here's a simple quiz:

1) Which country had a better overall response to the Coronavirus, the USA or the PRC?
Sweden
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2) Which economy will grow more this year, China or the US?
China, its lockdown was used to bury the humans
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3) Was the lockdown in China effective?
No one will ever know-the Central Peoples Government only lies to everyone
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4) Are masks an effective and useful means of blocking and reducing viral transmission?
At the margins- USA mask wearing now is at its largest level with no discernible positive effect
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5) Why did the US have 250K confirmed CV-19 deaths and over 10M infection cases compared with China's roughly 5,000 CV deaths and under 100K infections?
LOL   Because both counties are lying.  The US cases have to be at least 90 million.
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6) Have CV-19 infections been reduced to a negligible amount in China -- one or two dozen new imported cases per day now as China reports  -- or is there some sort of large outbreak possibly on a European or American scale that China is hiding?
China hides everything

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56770 on: November 12, 2020, 11:51:28 AM »



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4) Are masks an effective and useful means of blocking and reducing viral transmission?
At the margins- USA mask wearing now is at its largest level with no discernible positive effect.    FACT CHECK NEEDED

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #56772 on: November 12, 2020, 12:19:48 PM »

Florida has obscured the true extent of its pandemic by using a misleading measure of positive cases to justify reopening schools and businesses, state data indicates. While the state has publicized that its positivity rate has regularly fallen below 5%, other health organizations are publishing data that shows the rate may be dramatically higher.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-florida-coronavirus-wednesday-november-11-20201111-3dzmu5sj75eu7f4uxywmibhrgi-story.html



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« Reply #56773 on: November 12, 2020, 12:21:44 PM »



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4) Are masks an effective and useful means of blocking and reducing viral transmission?
At the margins- USA mask wearing now is at its largest level with no discernible positive effect.    FACT CHECK NEEDED


The fact check is long since done Ward's lying at least as much as he says China does.

But he's right that the US is lying, even if his claim about what is absurd - not that they wouldn't, but given the number of tests done, his number is pure fabrication.

And masks are ineffective, when they aren't worn.

Germany scoffs at Ward.
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« Reply #56774 on: November 12, 2020, 12:23:21 PM »

Florida has obscured the true extent of its pandemic by using a misleading measure of positive cases to justify reopening schools and businesses, state data indicates. While the state has publicized that its positivity rate has regularly fallen below 5%, other health organizations are publishing data that shows the rate may be dramatically higher.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-florida-coronavirus-wednesday-november-11-20201111-3dzmu5sj75eu7f4uxywmibhrgi-story.html

We've know Florida was lying for months - since August, at least.

Again, homicide is a crime and somebody should be charged and tried.
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