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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17295 on: February 25, 2021, 10:53:49 PM »

yeah very nice game....dispiriting 3Q but the 4Q, oooh...very nice! 
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« Reply #17296 on: February 25, 2021, 11:45:30 PM »

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« Reply #17297 on: February 26, 2021, 12:58:38 AM »

I'm getting the impression Chip thinks I'm mean.

I don't think so. I just prefer some players over another player.*

Why can't I think that?

Yes, tonight was a DELIGHT.


* A player who fits in incredibly poorly with rest of our starting lineup

** Welcome back, Frank!!! (Guess my new fave backcourt combo)

** Stick to shooting those in-rhythm 3's, Alec, and we're good

Happy for you Dawg. 

Not EXACTLY what you wished for, but an interesting change of pace and reshuffling of the deck. 

How'd the Stones put it, something about not getting what you want but getting what you need. 

Thibs broke up the Rose/Quickley tandem. 

Instead of getting Quickley to start we got Rose. 

We got Rose-Barrett-Bullock-Randle-Noel

We got Quickley-Ntilikina-Burks-Obi-Taj

Oh, and obviously we got Julius with both units. 

Still.  Rose & Quickley, two ball dominant facilitators, who can create their own offense, and DEMAND COVERAGE.   


Not sharing the ball with each other, seemed to LIBERATE BOTH.

And seemed to, in turn, liberate both Barrett and Ntilikina.  Dig that. 

GOD BLESS THIBS.  We put up 140 and he's focused on how we gave up 121. 

Thibs WAS almost smiling. 

I WAS FUCKING SMILING

Fizdale was a great talker. 

BUT THIBS BACKS HIS SHIT The Fuck UP. 

To wit. 

All of that talk about whether or not you are part of the ten man rotation, practicing hard and purposefully, still putting in the work, let alone the extra work, hunkering down with coaches on the floor after practice, and in the film room...REMAINING READY. 

TO WIT. 

Frank hadn't played since what, sometime in December? 

The pairing with Quickley as the off guard was inspired. 

Frank was 3-6, with 3 steals and 2 assists in 23 minutes, but what was really impressive to me was his level of intensity.  Frank's motor was grinding much faster than I recall, more aggressive, but more focused and under control.  Thibs said STAY READY, BE PREPARED, and by God, FRANK WAS READY AND PREPARED. 

SIDE NOTE: Kevin got a glimmer of light in garbage time, and BANG, hit his only shot, a corner three.  SWEET. 

But after three or four desultory games, Derrick and Immanuel were DOPE.  Rose set a brisk pace to start, and really brought the fire to Fucks and Hell with 18-3-6.

And while Haliburton was VERY imoressive, Quickley was MORE IMPRESSIVE.  Yes, yes, I know, the threes, but what got me was his pace and aggression.  He had his flloater recalibrated again, and, AND, he hit a short midrage jumper, a trad pull up and pop.  Cool.  COOLER?  He was 12-for Fucking-12 from the FT line with 3 assists and 2 steals, and 25 points in 20 minutes. 

FUCK ME. 

And boy did Stella Burks ever pick the right night to get her groove back; 24-4-2, 5-8 from trey in 25 minutes.   

Finally, another double-double for Julius, 21-14-4 in 31 minutes, with Obi logging 17 for a +10 and doing things other than pad the box score.  Good to see Thibs scaling back ever so slightly on Randle's minutes.

And overall Thibs was very very calculating in divving up minutes and keeping everyone fresh in his 10 Man Rotation.

Randle, 31
Bullock, 20
Noel, 23
Rose, 28 [7-11, 2-2 from trey, 6 assists]
Barrett, 25
Toppin, 17
Gibson, 24
Ntilikina, 23
Burks, 25
Quickley, 20


Finally, well, more finally, as up and down as we have been, THIBS keeps us on a path towards winning. 

The Lottery?

Fuck the Lottery, that's for Dallas [15-16]

God forbid we beat the Pacers, a tough match up for us, on Saturday night.

We would be 17-17, in sole possession of the 4th seed in the East. 

In THIBS We TRUST 
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« Reply #17298 on: February 26, 2021, 01:01:37 AM »

What must Austin Rivers be thinking? 

Now, how does Thibs accomodate his man Elfrid when he is ready to play again?

Who sits?  Who starts?  Who is paired with WHOM? 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17299 on: February 26, 2021, 01:09:37 AM »

The only player out I’m in any kind of hurry to see back playing is Mitch.

This is close to what our roster looks like in its optimal lineup configuration.

Keep riding these guys.

Does Orlando need a pg? Would they take Payton or Rivers for Mo Bomba? Would we need to add a sweetener?
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« Reply #17300 on: February 26, 2021, 01:12:33 AM »

Now, how does Thibs accomodate his man Elfrid when he is ready to play again?

Who sits?  Who starts?  Who is paired with WHOM?

U asking Les?

I’m sure my doggie has some ideas about that.

Nice doggie! 🐶
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« Reply #17301 on: February 26, 2021, 01:13:26 AM »

Process over playoffs?

Playoffs over process?

Both?

Both is ideal. But is both realistic?

Just think about what goes into winning every day and building the right habits,” Thibodeau said before the game.

“We’re getting there,” he’d say after, twice.
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« Reply #17302 on: February 26, 2021, 04:04:17 AM »

I’m going to expand on the Orlando conversation.

We send three guys, they send three guys. Two guards get second stints with their new teams. A promising but underutilized kid from Harlem goes to New York while a player of similar description returns to his old stomping ground. Two vets valued more for their big game experience than their big number production also swap lockers.

Bomba, Aminu, and Chasson Randle for Payton, Rivers, and Knox if Payton agrees.

We’d have

Mitch Noel Bomba
Randle Obi Taj
Bullock Burks Aminu
RJ Frank Iggy
Rose Quickley Randle

That to me is a roster more Thibs friendly and more worthy of the second half of the schedule.

Orlando will be glad to see this more mature and aggressive Elf return, especially if it means less load on MCW and possibly Fultz insurance down the line as his Bird rights would convey. They’ll love Knox and plug him right in.

Win win win.
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« Reply #17303 on: February 26, 2021, 09:13:13 AM »


Bomba, Aminu, and Chasson Randle for Payton, Rivers, and Knox if Payton agrees.

I wouldn't trade Knox for Bomba.
I wouldn't trade Elf for Aminu
I wouldn't trade Rivers for Chasson.

So you can guess what I think of the package.
You must be a giant Mo Bomb fan.


ORL doesn't really need a PG.  MCW is filling in for now.  Cole Anthony has a dinged up rib will be back in a few weeks.  Fultz out for the year.  They could use the PG help until Cole returns, but they aren't going anywhere.  Elf or MCW?  Kind of similar fellers.

Aminu is barely back from missing a year of basketball.  Played only 24 games last year.  Only 6 games since Jan 1 2020.
Played 5 minutes first game back then had to sit out 3 games with knee soreness.  Returned for the Knix game on a minutes restriction.  Played 5 games in his return.  NKY would have to wait a few weeks to see if he is functional.  RegBull is better.

That leaves The Bomb.   
Knix have Mitch-Nawlins-Taj.  Randle-Obi.  Already we don't get enough of ObiT.
Mo Bombs as future project.  Is he better/more intriguing than Knox?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17304 on: February 26, 2021, 11:06:39 AM »

I look at it the other way

I dont think Orlando is dealing Mo Bamba for fluff.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17305 on: February 26, 2021, 11:13:44 AM »

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« Reply #17306 on: February 26, 2021, 11:46:54 AM »


Not sharing the ball with each other, seemed to LIBERATE BOTH.

And seemed to, in turn, liberate both Barrett and Ntilikina.  Dig that. 


Yep, sure looked that way, at least against Sacramento

I also like the way Obi's transition from I don't have a clue defensive liability to, hey, he's kinda doing some good things on that end is progressing, bodes well for what happens with a less compressed season and more practice time

If we were targeting Magic bigs, which I don't think should be any kind of priority, I prefer some kind of buy-low on Jonathan Isaac to a move for Bamba, really liked watching him last few times I saw him play.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17307 on: February 26, 2021, 01:52:37 PM »

I'm somewhat partial to Khem Birch as a burly backup C.
Magic are the SacKings of the East ...


Taj has been playing real well lately.
Game before, Rose and Taj had some nice connections.  They know each other's games.
Then Taj was setting good screens for Burks last game.
And Taj has played very solid D the last few games, with good boarding.
Taj in a groove.
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« Reply #17308 on: February 26, 2021, 02:21:16 PM »

That fueled my thinking about Bamba (not Bomba, my bad). Birch and Vuc deserve to play and contribute to the Magic success. That doesn’t leave a lot of room for Mo. they can use a larger wing to develop w Anthony and Isaac with Better defensive tools than Fornier. Knox, who’s developing well behind a log jam, should appeal to coach Cliff.

We’d trim our log jam and get a highly talented big just finishing puberty.
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« Reply #17309 on: February 26, 2021, 02:34:57 PM »

Love you dude, but that trade seems utterly pointless. 

Let's sunder our chemistry to obtain Mo Bamba? 

So he can reproduce his role of sitting on the bench in Orlando to sitting on the bench in NY? 

Let alone the earthly remains of Aminu and, cough, CHASSON RANDLE? 

And for this we give up our starting PG, a serviceable vet and Kevin Knox? 

SERIOUSLY? 

Aminu?  A 31 year old career scrub coming off injuries with a 10 million player option for next season.  To sit behind Bullock and Burks. 

Randle?  A G Leaguer.

Bomba obviously intrigues you.  Hey, me too. 

If perchance, Noels were not to return for 2021-2022, then the OFFSEASON would be the time to ponder such a move, where he would have a summer to work with coaches and acclimate to the system.

But in the middle of a playoff run? 

Again, due 7.5 next season, and his option costs us 10 million the year after. 

For someone who would be our 4th stringer behind Mitchel, Nerlens and Taj. 

Come on, bro. 




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