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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: Today at 02:43:53 AM »

November 29, 1947: The UN General Assembly passes UN Resolution 181, which calls for the partition of Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state.

November 30, 1947: Palestinian Arabs ambush a bus carrying Jewish passengers near Lod (Lydda), an attack often cited as the start of the civil war in Palestine.

December 2, 1947: The Arab Higher Committee, the leading organizer of the Palestinian Arab nationalist movement in Jerusalem, announces a three-day strike against the partition plan. Riots break out in the city, and violence between Arabs and Jews escalates.

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Well there you go.
Simple really.
If only...
Oh well, they didn't, so the wars began.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 09:16:06 PM »

So, in the absence of the stating of their solution/s for the whole Israel, Palestine, Hamas war etc, it must be assumed that those forumites here don't have one.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 09:14:12 PM »

Quod erat demonstrandum

If you're a fan of the Brown Berets and the other Hispanic leaders' diatribes.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 08:17:57 PM »

Going back in time to strangle Gavrillo Princip in his crib. Which is more workable than yours.

Then let's hear your workable solution.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 07:17:17 PM »

Then what, exactly, is your solution?

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.

So your only problem with "From the river to the sea" is who is chanting it. Good to know there are some genocides you support.

Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Your ignorance of history is boundless. Something like 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948. Why would, or should, they accept a solution that normalized and approved that? Would Australia? Would anyone?

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

Not if you take subjugation of Palestinians as a starting point.

Relocating Palestinians to other Muslim Arab nations would not be genocide.

No other Arab Nation would take them unless Hamas is wiped off the earth.

What makes you think the Palestinians would accept the mass deportation from their homeland? They are already pissed about the part they were expelled from in 1948. The only reason to think that deporting Palestinians is a "solution" is if you do not think they matter as human beings at all.

The real reason Arab nations would not accept the arrangement even if Hamas did not exist is the cultural destruction of the Palestinian people is not in their interest, and would be stabbing the Palestinian population in the back.

Then what, exactly, is your solution?
Your solution to the whole thing?

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 06:51:19 PM »

I vote everyone here states their solution/s for the Israel, Palestine, Hamas war.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 06:08:59 PM »

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.

So your only problem with "From the river to the sea" is who is chanting it. Good to know there are some genocides you support.

Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Your ignorance of history is boundless. Something like 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in 1948. Why would, or should, they accept a solution that normalized and approved that? Would Australia? Would anyone?

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

Not if you take subjugation of Palestinians as a starting point.

Relocating Palestinians to other Muslim Arab nations would not be genocide.

Don't like my solutions?
What are yours?

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 05:35:04 PM »

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

Bambu is following the dictates of his white vs. brown world view.

Not at all.
This is obviously a religious war.

The 'Hispanic Leaders Speak Out' article sure opened my eyes though.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 04:33:23 PM »

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.

You are arguing that Israel should create an Israel "from the river to the sea".

That's one solution, with the Palestinians relocated to Muslim Arab nations.
Problem with that idea is that no Muslim Arab nation seems to want them.

If the US abandons Israel because it won't accept redrawn boundaries in a two state solution, from where will Israel then get its weapons for self defence?
There was a two state solution in 1948, but the Palestinians never accepted that, so they probably won't accept it today.

Looks like the perpetual war continues...no solutions possible.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 01:46:04 PM »

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

Which is quite sensibly the last thing Israel wants. Unless they want to paint huge concentric red circles on the backs of the overseers and inspectors.

Well a two state solution is what the US, the UN, and most everyone else are in favour of.
The pro-Palestine protesters worldwide seem to hate the Jews/Israel and want them gone, with a new state of Palestine being "from the river to the sea". They are demanding it all.
With Israel basically being the 'Jews last stand' I can't see them agreeing to that.
Israel is left with no choice but to keep on destroying every Hamas hiding place/weapons storage facility in Gaza, while trying to free the hostages.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 12:53:41 PM »

Wouldn't a "Palestinian state...run and secured by Israel" actually be Israel?

Not necessarily.
Think of it as 'overseen', 'inspected'.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 10:04:47 AM »

What US should be saying to Israel, regarding freeing the hostages and wiping out Hamas...

"Go get 'em"!

No, we should be telling them their current course of conduct will accomplish neither. Diplomatic blank checks are a bad idea. Just ask Wilhelm II.

But it will accomplish both.

N9, it will not. The hostages that have been freed have only been freed in the type of prisoner swap Hamas has always agreed to through diplomacy. And everywhere Israeli troops have been but currently are not, Hamas has returned.

Which means that Hamas is much of the people.
The borders will need to be sealed, all the tunnels destroyed, the whole of Gaza flattened to bare earth, and every one of the people disarmed.
Then if a two state solution is proposed, the Palestinian state must be run and secured by Israel so that history doesn't repeat itself and Hamas or other Islamic terrorists take over the new Palestinian state.
Or a UN army runs and secures it.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 16, 2024, 06:05:34 AM »

What US should be saying to Israel, regarding freeing the hostages and wiping out Hamas...

"Go get 'em"!

No, we should be telling them their current course of conduct will accomplish neither. Diplomatic blank checks are a bad idea. Just ask Wilhelm II.

But it will accomplish both.
In "Screams Before Silence" (the screams of Jewish women and girls being tortured to death)...the young woman shown being released from a car in the first hostage swap tells all...all about how 'Muhammad' repeatedly raped her ... saying to her "I was good"?   the first time, she turned her head away, he then got angry and said "no food"...so every time he raped her she had to tell him he was good, to get food. She said others were also being raped.

That simply cannot be allowed to continue, it must be stopped, one way or another...and will be.
Hamas will be wiped out in Gaza...by Israel, no one else wants the job, or it will just resume attacking Israel from Gaza forever.

Sky News (skynews dot com dot au) 28th May 2024...Josh Frydenberg's new documentary 'NEVER AGAIN: The Fight Against Antisemitism' is being shown/streamed.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 15, 2024, 05:31:00 AM »

Bambu, your advice is truly fucking terrible even for advice coming from an avowed complete and total moron like yourself. Please flush your andvice and yourself down the nearest open sewer before you do yourself any more reputational harm. I guarantee we will all think better of you for it once you do.

Have you watched "Screams Before Silence"?
No?
Then I suggest you do so, you might just change your attitude.
Antony Blinken is urging Israel to try to limit civilian casualties.

No one else will be sending anyone to free the hostages and kill/ capture Hamas terrorists.
Not South Africa, the UN, or anyone else.
Hamas could end the war tomorrow, but won't.
It's all up to Israel to go in and get them, the hostages and their torturers.

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Biden Administration / Re: News in General

« on: May 15, 2024, 12:41:25 AM »

What US should be saying to Israel, regarding freeing the hostages and wiping out Hamas...

"Go get 'em"!