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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #16995 on: July 20, 2019, 09:35:20 AM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.


Huge majorities is right. Republicans from Poppy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford all swore Medicare was gonna be the end of western civilization.

House   —— Democrats 289   Republicans 136

Senate. —— Democrats 65         Republicans  35

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #16996 on: July 20, 2019, 11:42:31 AM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.


Huge majorities is right. Republicans from Poppy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford all swore Medicare was gonna be the end of western civilization.

House   —— Democrats 289   Republicans 136

Senate. —— Democrats 65         Republicans  35
Still doesn’t jive with your contention that in the 60’s that the moderates were the fringe.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #16997 on: July 20, 2019, 12:40:12 PM »

Poor stupid Red

He would rather twist all words and opinions far beyond any reasonable meaning, and create false narratives, rather than concede he is mistaken.
And in his twisting, he got it backwards.

It seems what was considered radical in the 60s is now common place and generally adopted by the poulace as a whole.

But the nut-job right is fighting like to hell to push us back into the '50s. Or maybe the '20's.
 
The point seemed to be that Dems in general since FDR seemed to be the party pushing for social change. In the above example Medicare, while the Republicans have been the party fighting change.

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« Reply #16998 on: July 20, 2019, 01:06:43 PM »

It’s why the best thing any municipality or state can do is to vote out its republicans and never let them return to power. It why one should always vote to ensure no republicans make it to federal office. In addition to being reactionary and authoritarian, the republican party is the nexus of organized crime in The United States.

The less republican your life is, the higher it’s quality can become.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #16999 on: July 20, 2019, 01:31:39 PM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.

Yes, that was Larry's point.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17000 on: July 20, 2019, 01:44:46 PM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.


Huge majorities is right. Republicans from Poppy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford all swore Medicare was gonna be the end of western civilization.

House   —— Democrats 289   Republicans 136

Senate. —— Democrats 65         Republicans  35
Still doesn’t jive with your contention that in the 60’s that the moderates were the fringe.

Since that wasn't his contention, it is unsurprising they would not align.

He said today's so-called fringe would have been considered moderates then.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17001 on: July 20, 2019, 02:04:27 PM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.


Huge majorities is right. Republicans from Poppy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford all swore Medicare was gonna be the end of western civilization.

House   —— Democrats 289   Republicans 136

Senate. —— Democrats 65         Republicans  35
Still doesn’t jive with your contention that in the 60’s that the moderates were the fringe.

Since that wasn't his contention, it is unsurprising they would not align.

He said today's so-called fringe would have been considered moderates then.
Try some reading comprehension classes. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17002 on: July 20, 2019, 02:13:16 PM »

Bindi spline torque weevil much?   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17003 on: July 20, 2019, 02:41:47 PM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.


Huge majorities is right. Republicans from Poppy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford all swore Medicare was gonna be the end of western civilization.

House   —— Democrats 289   Republicans 136

Senate. —— Democrats 65         Republicans  35
Still doesn’t jive with your contention that in the 60’s that the moderates were the fringe.

Now you’re just being an asshole.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17004 on: July 20, 2019, 02:43:45 PM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.


Huge majorities is right. Republicans from Poppy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford all swore Medicare was gonna be the end of western civilization.

House   —— Democrats 289   Republicans 136

Senate. —— Democrats 65         Republicans  35
Still doesn’t jive with your contention that in the 60’s that the moderates were the fringe.

Since that wasn't his contention, it is unsurprising they would not align.

He said today's so-called fringe would have been considered moderates then.
Try some reading comprehension classes.

Now you’re just being an asshole AND you should sue your school district.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17005 on: July 20, 2019, 03:41:52 PM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.


Huge majorities is right. Republicans from Poppy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford all swore Medicare was gonna be the end of western civilization.

House   —— Democrats 289   Republicans 136

Senate. —— Democrats 65         Republicans  35
Still doesn’t jive with your contention that in the 60’s that the moderates were the fringe.

Since that wasn't his contention, it is unsurprising they would not align.

He said today's so-called fringe would have been considered moderates then.
Try some reading comprehension classes.

Now you’re just being an asshole AND you should sue your school district.
You made the assertion. Which is ridiculous.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17006 on: July 20, 2019, 03:59:48 PM »

It’s why the best thing any municipality or state can do is to vote out its republicans and never let them return to power. It why one should always vote to ensure no republicans make it to federal office. In addition to being reactionary and authoritarian, the republican party is the nexus of organized crime in The United States.

The less republican your life is, the higher it’s quality can become.

While I aprpreciate and understand the sentiment and your characterization of the GOP is dead-on, we need at least 2 parties to keep the party in power sort of in check. Without the threat of a competing party, even if its a dog-shit bunch of spineless cowards and thiefs like the McConnell Graham crime family. Its that absolute power/corruption model. We saw it in play when the Repubs had the White House, Senate and House. The motherfuckers stole us blind when they had a monopoly in DC. Thankfully Trump was too inept to harness the power and monopoly he conspired with the Russians to get.

We may not be so lucky in 2020.
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« Reply #17007 on: July 20, 2019, 04:01:49 PM »

The fringe left is entertaining but not appropriate and to me dangerous.


I can agree with this

But how much danger is there really with no actual power?

What’s funny is those called the ‘fringe left’ these days would have been moderates in the 60s.
Moderates in the 60’s were calling for Medicare for all, a shutdown of private health insurance, “ free” college tuition, wealth taxes, a shutdown of energy from fossil fuels, and so on?

Moderates called for Medicare and rightwing conservatives called it socialism that would destroy the fabric of the country. Some things never change, huh?
And Medicare was passed easily with huge majorities in the House and Senate.
It was hardly a “ fringe “ issue.


Huge majorities is right. Republicans from Poppy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater and Gerald Ford all swore Medicare was gonna be the end of western civilization.

House   —— Democrats 289   Republicans 136

Senate. —— Democrats 65         Republicans  35
Still doesn’t jive with your contention that in the 60’s that the moderates were the fringe.

Since that wasn't his contention, it is unsurprising they would not align.

He said today's so-called fringe would have been considered moderates then.
Try some reading comprehension classes.

Now you’re just being an asshole AND you should sue your school district.
You made the assertion. Which is ridiculous.

Oh come on, Red. Now you’re just shit piling.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #17008 on: July 20, 2019, 04:17:08 PM »

Happy Birthday to Colombia!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_Declaration_of_Independence

Pastrana, Uribe, and Santos, have all been great, and Iván Duque Márquez is doing a fantastic job.

Colombia has made a lot of progress.

And they have the world's largest variety of plants and wildlife.

Salute,

Tony V.

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« Reply #17009 on: July 20, 2019, 04:37:01 PM »

Shakira is from Colombia, and she has a charity in Colombia to build and run schools for the children in Colombia, the name of her charity is The Barefeet Children's Foundation.

https://fundacionpiesdescalzos.com/en/

Shakira is awesome.

Salute,

Tony V.
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