Testing, testing, 1...2...yankees suck....
Good win. Snaps L streak. Shoulda been a sweep.
Next time.
One of the leaders, and certainly for the pitching staff. Believe it or not, the kid Hoskins is the leader in that young clubhouse.Good win. Snaps L streak. Shoulda been a sweep.
Next time.
Arrietta is clearly Phils leader.
They say you cant lead from an every fifth day situation, but its worked in the past with some teams.
I wonder if Evvie felt any compassion with the Nats humiliation of the Mets last night.
Yanks still need [A STUD] starter...
Resilience.
The capacity to recover quickly from difficulties; toughness.
The key to winning the marathon that is a baseball season.
JOSH -
Just a heads up....
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Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
I don't remember the earlier game, but Pedro was Pedro and when he threw a game like that, while it was appreciated it was not quite as surprising as seeing "Cy" Porcello do it.
A lovely game to see. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
The Red Sox’ powerful lineup, which leads the majors in OPS (.796) is a tough first assignment in the big leagues for any pitcher, let alone one making his big league debut.
Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
I don't remember the earlier game, but Pedro was Pedro and when he threw a game like that, while it was appreciated it was not quite as surprising as seeing "Cy" Porcello do it.
A lovely game to see. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
The Pedro game was the best game I've ever seen a pitcher pitch, with the Chili Davis hr (RF-yankee stadium) the only hit Pedro gave up that night.
17ks no walks.plunked Knobby.
Porcello not nearly as overpowering, but very efficient, and just throwing strikes.
real nice game.
The New York Daily News made this observation about Chase Adams' start tomorrow at Fenway:QuoteThe Red Sox’ powerful lineup, which leads the majors in OPS (.796) is a tough first assignment in the big leagues for any pitcher, let alone one making his big league debut.
Their editors must work in the Department of Redundancy Department.
Los Angeles has the best baseball team, the Dodgers, the best basketball team, the Lakers, and the best football team, the Rams.
And the best new boxers are coming from California.
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Salute,
Tony V.
Yanks need to do everything now to set up for the wild card game, including figuring out who they want to pitch
Right now without any doubt it is TANAKA, if they are thinking straight
I'm excited to see ADAMS, who I would have taken as a Met - today.
Who questioned that trade? Heh.
You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
Actually, I guess we'll never know. Troll.
Perhaps you can find it on my Twitter account.
You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
Say what, Cash?
https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/red-sox-send-message-yankees-brian-cashman (https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/red-sox-send-message-yankees-brian-cashman)
White Sox, Astros, Twins, A's. Phils, Mariners all play Sox tougher this year than NY
You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
I thought the Red Sox needed Eovaldi.
Didn't you?
What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
Actually, I guess we'll never know. Troll.
Perhaps you can find it on my Twitter account.
I always acknowledge and reject that argument. I don't think any team is good enough and wise enough to focus on another team's needs at the expense of their own.What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
I agree the Ys did not need Britton, they needed a starter, just like they did before the season started, so I assumed a part of Cashman's reasoning for acquiring a guy they did not need (Britton) and could afford, was to keep a needed asset from his competitors.
I do not recall you stating it was a compelling argument, but I do not possess perfect recall.
I always acknowledge and reject that argument. I don't think any team is good enough and wise enough to focus on another team's needs at the expense of their own.What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
I agree the Ys did not need Britton, they needed a starter, just like they did before the season started, so I assumed a part of Cashman's reasoning for acquiring a guy they did not need (Britton) and could afford, was to keep a needed asset from his competitors.
I do not recall you stating it was a compelling argument, but I do not possess perfect recall.
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Now I'm confused, you've said you found it a compelling argument and now one you reject.
But I agree focusing on your own team's needs, and addressing them is a simpler and more effective strategy than to try and out-maneuver what an oppponent may do.
But I also think Cashman feels he's playing chess while everyone else is playing with themselves.
The compelling part of the argument is "look how good the Sox would be with Britton. We have to do something to stop it." The rejection is "let the Sox have him. Let's get what we need."
The compelling part of the argument is "look how good the Sox would be with Britton. We have to do something to stop it." The rejection is "let the Sox have him. Let's get what we need."
Eovaldi's first impression with his new team has been about as good as possible. He hasn't allowed a run over 15 innings in his first two starts for the Sox. The last time a starting pitcher was unscored upon in his first two starts for Boston? Vaughn Eshelman, who did it in 1995.
https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544 (https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544)
https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544 (https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544)
Whew - this one's on Cora.
Price needed to be done on the Gardy single.
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
They got 3 closers.
As you might have noticed in this series they needed a starter more.
Or maybe you didn't
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
They got 3 closers.
As you might have noticed in this series they needed a starter more.
Or maybe you didn't
I was agreeing and teasing Kiid.
Uh oh.
The Yankees have trimmed the lead down to 9 and they still have two games in hand!
Beat me to it.Uh oh.
The Yankees have trimmed the lead down to 9 and they still have two games in hand!
1978.
heh
'78 was a great season, and a great race, and has become the St. Jude of baseball seasons to some to pray to.
But it was more like a crucible preparing the soul for the real trying times like '86 and '03
fwiw I and most other sportsfans call upon Saint '04 when the night is at its darkest and the task at hand seemingly impossible
I think I read the intended purpose into "1978" accurately and and responded appropriately.
I think I read the intended purpose into "1978" accurately and and responded appropriately.
No. You didn't.
You fucked up.
And now that you know the intent behind the original post, you try to save face.
You haven't won shit, yet, so calm down.
John Axford, a dreadful pitcher, had 46 saves one season. Finding a closer shouldn't be that hard.
I'm not sure I said that proven good closers are available, but rather guys become good closers out of a sense of desperation all the time.
Delusional banks showing he's worried Bosox will blow up in post season. Little early for that kind of panic.
Heh
Talk about being misunderstood!I thought his name was Grady.
My comment was harkening back to the mindset of Bostonians everywhere when we knew our team could and would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
When every minor issue was proof that Chicken Little was right!
It was one year ago today that Rhys Hoskins left triple-A Lehigh Valley and joined the Phillies for a four-game series at Citizens Bank Park against the New York Mets. He went 1 for 13 in that first series. Things, of course, improved in a hurry as he hit 18 home runs in his next 30 games to become the fastest player to 18 home runs in major-league history.
In his first calendar year of Major League Baseball, Hoskins has hit .258 with 35 doubles, 40 home runs, 120 RBIs, and a .918 OPS. His big-league career did not start until he was 24, but it’s still fun to compare his first calendar year to some of the other active stars in the game.
Here’s a look at how Hoskins compares to five of the game’s premier sluggers:
Player G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB K BA OBP SLG OPS
Rhys Hoskins 155 551 101 142 35 40 120 103 153 .257 .379 .539 .918
Aaron Judge 138 478 97 129 16 39 88 94 194 .270 .394 .523 .967
Bryce Harper 162 616 115 175 31 31 77 68 133 .284 .356 .518 .874
Giancarlo Stanton 156 552 78 142 34 35 92 58 181 .257 .332 .520 .852
Mookie Betts 126 480 71 133 29 13 52 45 67 .277 .341 .440 .781
Nolan Arenado 159 590 63 161 35 14 66 26 85 .273 .303 .417 .720
Note: Mike Trout was not included because he started the 2012 season in the minors after making his major-league debut in July 2011, and that tainted his sample size.
It was one year ago today that Rhys Hoskins left triple-A Lehigh Valley and joined the Phillies for a four-game series at Citizens Bank Park against the New York Mets. He went 1 for 13 in that first series. Things, of course, improved in a hurry as he hit 18 home runs in his next 30 games to become the fastest player to 18 home runs in major-league history.
In his first calendar year of Major League Baseball, Hoskins has hit .258 with 35 doubles, 40 home runs, 120 RBIs, and a .918 OPS. His big-league career did not start until he was 24, but it’s still fun to compare his first calendar year to some of the other active stars in the game.
Here’s a look at how Hoskins compares to five of the game’s premier sluggers:
Player G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB K BA OBP SLG OPS
Rhys Hoskins 155 551 101 142 35 40 120 103 153 .257 .379 .539 .918
Aaron Judge 138 478 97 129 16 39 88 94 194 .270 .394 .523 .967
Bryce Harper 162 616 115 175 31 31 77 68 133 .284 .356 .518 .874
Giancarlo Stanton 156 552 78 142 34 35 92 58 181 .257 .332 .520 .852
Mookie Betts 126 480 71 133 29 13 52 45 67 .277 .341 .440 .781
Nolan Arenado 159 590 63 161 35 14 66 26 85 .273 .303 .417 .720
Note: Mike Trout was not included because he started the 2012 season in the minors after making his major-league debut in July 2011, and that tainted his sample size.
With thanks to Bob Brookover:
http://philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/rhys-hoskins-has-40-hrs-after-one-calendar-year-in-majors-extra-innings-20180810.html (http://philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/rhys-hoskins-has-40-hrs-after-one-calendar-year-in-majors-extra-innings-20180810.html)
So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
Look at the BB's, R, and RBI.
So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
Look at the BB's, R, and RBI.
0 HR last 16 games of 2017
0 HR last 10 thus far this year
Tiiiiiireeeed.
Beckham is an atrocious shortstop.
You SUCK, Tendi!
You SUCK, Tendi!
How did Benny hurt you kid?
10D is top 10 OPS, top 15 WAR, and you think he sucks?
Did you find out his people chain-migrated?
its funny I stick a toe in the water, and the dumb fuck troll shows up.
TFF
or it would be if he wasn't an indecent stalker
Sox play day/nighter in B'more could be a long day made longer by rain/lightening, and neither team has a BP after last night..I'm going with my daughter to the night game. Left field nose bleeds. It sounds like the rain might be a hit or miss thing.
Sox play day/nighter in B'more could be a long day made longer by rain/lightening, and neither team has a BP after last night..I'm going with my daughter to the night game. Left field nose bleeds. It sounds like the rain might be a hit or miss thing.
Gonna need somebody if Sale is not ok.
Even 4th playoff starter, if needed, is up for grabs.
- this in response to the Wright post
So......................appears that on the days MLB Network has Yanks scheduled as their main game - we dont get an alternate game (today it could be Sox-O's so I can see Price pitch) - although when an out of town game IS scheduled for MLB Network we SEE IT even when a local game is running opposite on another network
A semi-blackout rule, I suppose.
So I will be seeing reruns of whatever on MLB while Sox play, forced to watch the LynnYanks take revenge on TX.
OY!
The full package, by the way, rest of the year, is just 59 bucks if anyone is interested.
This is very odd. I'm now both Yankguy and Yankguy1. And "Yankguy1" ignored my latest "Yankguy" post. Strange. I'll stick with Yankguy1, but if push comes to shove I'll go with "Bluestateward" or "ESPN+".
I presume that Sale was taken out for purely precautionary reasons, after coming off the DL.
I hope that was why!
Maybe we will get a Phils update today.
heh
looking forward to deGrom-Severino/Better Call Saul twinbill tonight
looking forward to deGrom-Severino/Better Call Saul twinbill tonight
Twinbill?
Todays quiz:I imagine Ruth is the easy one and also that he did that more than twice.
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
Norm Cash is my guess from those unmentioned.
I figured Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, and Bonds.
George Brett would be a long shot.
Rogers Hornsby?
Todays quiz:
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
Cobb might have snuck in.
.650 slugging. He was .029 short in 1911.Cobb might have snuck in.
And did - not even sneaking.
.420 .467 .621
47 doubles, 4 triples, 8 homers
I would bet the Williams, Mantle and Bonds are also on that list.
.650 slugging. He was .029 short in 1911.Cobb might have snuck in.
And did - not even sneaking.
.420 .467 .621
47 doubles, 4 triples, 8 homers
Nap Lajoie?
That was a career year along the lines of a Brady Anderson career year. Expansion = peds?
That was a career year along the lines of a Brady Anderson career year. Expansion = peds?Cork.
Kimbrel makes an interesting game a little more interesting
good game
Todays quiz:
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
ataboy
https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html)
In other words, the Red Sox are the personification of Betts, who is threatening to join an elite group: Players who have finished a season with at least a .350 batting average, a .425 on-base percentage and a .650 slugging percentage. The last to do it was Albert Pujols and before that Barry Bonds. Others include Babe Ruth (eight times), Lou Gehrig, Rogers Hornsby, Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, George Brett, Stan Musial, Joe DiMaggio and, of course, Larry Walker twice.
Never did like Passan (though in fairness he did say "including")
Oh well - gave you idiots something to do
Who said that?
Scherzer is close to "Pedro in his prime" territory.
I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.That's how I read it and why I didn't mention the 2001 Mariners.
I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.That's how I read it and why I didn't mention the 2001 Mariners.
I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.1995 Indians. 100 wins in 144 games. Shut down in the World.Series by umpires deliberately expanding the strike.zones for Maddux and Glavine just to spite me
I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.
You SUCK, Tendi!
If one believes in such things there must be a nice reunion taking place in heaven with Duane Allman.
Diamondbacks 5, Padres 1: If you placed money on “Some time in 2018 Clay Buchholz will pitch a complete game, allowing only one run on five hits, getting the win for a playoff contending team” before the season began you would’ve been arrested for suspected time-traveling and/or placed in a rubber room so you could not do any harm to others or to yourself. Yet it happened. He got five runs of support in the first inning, thanks in part to a David Peralta three-run homer, and other than allowing a Hunter Renfroe solo shot in the eighth, he was lights-out. Not too bad for a guy everyone thought was burnt toast not too long ago.
its the dry-heat.
its the dry-heat.
It's the heat, not the humility?
QuoteDiamondbacks 5, Padres 1: If you placed money on “Some time in 2018 Clay Buchholz will pitch a complete game, allowing only one run on five hits, getting the win for a playoff contending team” before the season began you would’ve been arrested for suspected time-traveling and/or placed in a rubber room so you could not do any harm to others or to yourself. Yet it happened. He got five runs of support in the first inning, thanks in part to a David Peralta three-run homer, and other than allowing a Hunter Renfroe solo shot in the eighth, he was lights-out. Not too bad for a guy everyone thought was burnt toast not too long ago.
Speaking of resilience.
I'm glad for Clay, but I sure wonder what changed for him! Maybe the heat of the spotlights in Boston and Philly was too much, but with nobody paying attention in AZ, he's thriving?
An A's- Phillies World Series...now, there's something to ask the baseball gods to bring us all!
What Fall Classic would be complete without a football field lined out on the diamond?
Pop-up to the 30-yard line--can the SS call for a fair catch?
Save Billy Hamilton, Bader on the Cardinals might be the fastest player in baseball. He's a blur.
Save Billy Hamilton, Bader on the Cardinals might be the fastest player in baseball. He's a blur.
Have you seen the Mighty Roman Quinn, yet?
Today's quiz (not given by Jeff Passan)
12 players have spend their entire career with the same MLB team, minimum ten big league seasons
Now give me the top 5, based on number of years
Today's quiz (not given by Jeff Passan)
12 players have spend their entire career with the same MLB team, minimum ten big league seasons
Now give me the top 5, based on number of years
Today's quiz (not given by Jeff Passan)
12 players have spend their entire career with the same MLB team, minimum ten big league seasons
Now give me the top 5, based on number of years
Now I know the correct answer.
And your number is wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Unless you meant to include the word "active" in your post, of course.
just 12 guys on the same team for 10+ years can't be right.
Sox LF from 1939-1989 take up 3 spots.
just 12 guys on the same team for 10+ years can't be right.
Sox LF from 1939-1989 take up 3 spots.
Like I said - he has to have meant active players. That way, while it is more than 12, 12 would be close.
current players........
Need 12
then a top 5
Bauer is already throwing.We can afford to wait on him, just.get him tuned up.
I will say mid September if not sooner
One of my current favorites. Great back story.
Alexei Ramirez?
Price with another great outing.
8 innings 3 hit 7ks 0 BBs
totally in control
I think Ryan Zimmerman is one of the missing quiz answers. Surprised you all missed that one.
Lots of good NL story lines. Sorry to see Nats lose yesterday. That was pivotal. But still plenty alive.
0I think Ryan Zimmerman is one of the missing quiz answers. Surprised you all missed that one.
Lots of good NL story lines. Sorry to see Nats lose yesterday. That was pivotal. But still plenty alive.
Here, let me help.
I saw Zimmerman, after I had already posted my choices.
0I think Ryan Zimmerman is one of the missing quiz answers. Surprised you all missed that one.
Lots of good NL story lines. Sorry to see Nats lose yesterday. That was pivotal. But still plenty alive.
Here, let me help.
I saw Zimmerman, after I had already posted my choices.
Help?
most kids add muscle and pounds as they grew into their bodies.
As you mature from kid to adult you may experience that change.
And my hope is that you stop worrying about winning every fucking game
As long as Shane Robinson and Neil Walker are getting regular OF time, I'm not willing to run with a 1978 comparison. Yet.
No doubt. Those things are unpredictable. What's more concerning to me is the length of time it's taking you to post J.D. Martinez' Instagram musings. You're losing whatever fastball you had left.
Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
No argument.Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
But he is choosy as to who grabs him.
The Hamels trade the Cubs made was the bigger move, I think.
Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
Joey Bats claimed by Phils.
https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html)
We'll see.Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
Bryant's back this week
Joey Bats claimed by Phils.
https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html)
....but Mets playing hardball - want a half decent prospect
I'm not sure you can win uglier than that.
but
AWINZAWIN
Nola is brilliant. He throws any pitch in any count in any situation. Remarkable.
That said, the Phillies aren't ready yet. They play terrible defense, run the bases poorly and have a crummy bullpen. Tonight Kapler has to stay with a clearly gassed Nola.
obsssesion has taken hold of the clueless troll.
obsssesion has taken hold of the clueless troll.
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
As you said, Mr. Utley, Roman Quinn can fly.
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
Congratulations. You named one reactionary (I don't know enough to claim he is a fascist, but he may be), one bigot, out and out, and one pro-gun person who was misinformed about the Hitler quote and policies.
And one "etc" without any substance to it.
I could make the same claim about the Phillies, with Ben Chapman, Jim Bunning, and Mike Schmidt. Mostly, players have the wisdom to not put their politics out in the public eye.
Ben Chapman stained the team while he was with it. Bunning and Schmidt did not.
And, of course, we both shared Jonathan "Obama wants to take our guns" Papelbon.
Your comment was horseshit.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html)
to the arguably greatest hitter who ever lived
*
Bonds - as a Giant - vs tougher pitching - .477
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
Congratulations. You named one reactionary (I don't know enough to claim he is a fascist, but he may be), one bigot, out and out, and one pro-gun person who was misinformed about the Hitler quote and policies.
And one "etc" without any substance to it.
I could make the same claim about the Phillies, with Ben Chapman, Jim Bunning, and Mike Schmidt. Mostly, players have the wisdom to not put their politics out in the public eye.
Ben Chapman stained the team while he was with it. Bunning and Schmidt did not.
And, of course, we both shared Jonathan "Obama wants to take our guns" Papelbon.
Your comment was horseshit.
Fenway, a "Whites Only" park, is not only hitter friendly, with J.D. Martinez on the team, it's Hitler Friendly!
another bolt of late inning lightening for the visiting Sox.
nice to see Mookie hitting again
heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.
I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.You just root for these things, seemingly.
heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
Red?
just another of your weak non-rebuttals to a discussion you were lost in
LOL
And it always ends the same way
SSDD
heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
Red?
just another of your weak non-rebuttals to a discussion you were lost in
LOL
And it always ends the same way
SSDD
What's the same every time is your complaining after your assessment has been kicked to the curb once again. Which it was.
Why would I root for this?I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.You just root for these things, seemingly.
heh
Pretty good SS Yanks gave up. Look forward to seeing him succeed Crawford.
Look at bankshit chase his own tale.
Dude can't handle defeat.
No Grady Little to blame fir his stupidity.
Ha!
Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html)
to the arguably greatest hitter who ever lived
Happy 100th Ted
nice article by Shaughnessy
They should say hello, Willie would say "Hey", to the greatest hitter in the game on the anniversary 100th birthday
Agree on Mays
Disagree on Aaron
IMO Williams and Ruth were the best hitters
then maybe Gehrig, Bonds* Foxx, Aaron
How hard is it raining?
Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
Ruth was not the focus of the discussion.
But I generally agree with your post.
Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
Ruth was not the focus of the discussion.
But I generally agree with your post.
I wasn't wasting my breath arguing with Utley. He knows better, but it doesn't matter - he came here for an argument. Or just a contradiction of anything you say (almost). Or abuse.
I was belatedly disagreeing with Mays, which both of you (whomever the other one was).
Ruth never had to hit Koufax or Gibson or Drysdale. Aaron.
You lose again.
This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
Figures the Boston Cartel would work this hard to defend the Whites Only Era of baseball.
Aaron. Better hitter than Williams. Played in tougher league, tougher era. Third in all-time hits, Williams 77th. First in all-time Homers presteroid and body armor era.
The best hitters hit. Aaron had the most hits of anyone you've mentioned
You lose, again.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
and the troll unintentionally proves the obvious point, as he knows little of the game.
Singles hitters are just not in the conversation for "greatest hitters".
Figures the Boston Cartel would work this hard to defend the Whites Only Era of baseball.
Aaron. Better hitter than Williams. Played in tougher league, tougher era. Third in all-time hits, Williams 77th. First in all-time Homers presteroid and body armor era.
The best hitters hit. Aaron had the most hits of anyone you've mentioned
You lose, again.
An irrelevant argument for Ruth.
An erroneous argument for Williams. Spin it any way you want to. If Aaron had been the Boston player and Williams played elsewhere, you would be defending Williams, pointing out that he went to war, twice, slugged and hit better, etc. Whatever, Utley.
A waste of perfectly good used electrons.
But you're only slightly more likely than Red to admit being wrong. (Or should I call him E in here?)
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
and the troll unintentionally proves the obvious point, as he knows little of the game.
Singles hitters are just not in the conversation for "greatest hitters".
Since when was Hank Aaron a singled hitter?
LOL
Williams doesn't show up at all on that list.
And for total hits career? Aaron is third. Williams???
Well, well out of the running.
Because truly great hitters like Aaron hit for power, and they have 200+ hit seasons.
In other words, to be a great hitters...get hits.
Back to your barstool, you've lost another.
Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.In 4500 more abs.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
Yet surprisingly for all the reasons given, most observers rank Ruth and Williams #1/2 when ranking the greatest hitters in the game.
So back to the gutter troll, and own your latest humiliation.
Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.In 4500 more abs.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
Yet surprisingly for all the reasons given, most observers rank Ruth and Williams #1/2 when ranking the greatest hitters in the game.
So back to the gutter troll, and own your latest humiliation.
A lot of people eat at McDonald's. Doesn't mean it's good food.
And Mays was better than Williams, too.
And neither Willie or Henry could hide being black, but the Spoiled Splinter HUD being brown.
Beatings will continue.
See ya, loser!
200 hit seasons.
Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.In 4500 more abs.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
HEH
page not found (404 Error).
So typical of the troll.
As is his continued misunderstanding that William's, a classic pull hitter, and subject to the first shift (Boudreau) against his pull-power, played half his games in the ballpark with a one of the biggest right-fields and did not play to his stubborn strengths.
In fact, in a well known story, in 1947, Tom Yawkey and Yankee owner Dan Topping, met at Toots Shor's and over several cocktails agreed to trade Williams for Joe D, with the thought of the reunting the Dimaggio brothers in Boston with Joe attacking the Monster while Williams would take advantage of Yankee Stadium's short-porch in right and resume where Ruth had left off.
Sober heads and presumably coffee prevailed the following morning, and the trade never happened.
And the real band box is in Philly, but its not lyric, as there is no music nor charm, its just a small ballpark, built for small-minded dolts.
This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
HEH
page not found (404 Error).
So typical of the troll.
As is his continued misunderstanding that William's, a classic pull hitter, and subject to the first shift (Boudreau) against his pull-power, played half his games in the ballpark with a one of the biggest right-fields and did not play to his stubborn strengths.
In fact, in a well known story, in 1947, Tom Yawkey and Yankee owner Dan Topping, met at Toots Shor's and over several cocktails agreed to trade Williams for Joe D, with the thought of the reunting the Dimaggio brothers in Boston with Joe attacking the Monster while Williams would take advantage of Yankee Stadium's short-porch in right and resume where Ruth had left off.
Sober heads and presumably coffee prevailed the following morning, and the trade never happened.
And the real band box is in Philly, but its not lyric, as there is no music nor charm, its just a small ballpark, built for small-minded dolts.
No, he's right - Ted hit far better at home than away:
I BA OBP SLG OPS
Home .361 .496 .652 1.148
Away .328 .467 .615 1.082
Aaron was about the same home and away, overall (and not bothering to compare Milwaukee vs. Atlanta)
I BA OBP SLG OPS
Home .303 .379 .557 .936
Away .306 .369 .552 .921
But Ted Williams' weaker performance still blows Aaron's performances away. Or home.
Sox keep rollin'
nothing flashy good night for Pearce and Porcello and pen
just played some good hard-ball.
in a year of strange and compelling games that one might be the game of the year
and today Brandon Phillip's became a Rd Sox
in a year of strange and compelling games that one might be the game of the year
and today Brandon Phillip's became a Rd Sox
That was a stunning game in so many ways.
Wow.
Wow. Look who's number two: http://highheatstats.blogspot.com/2012/01/50-most-overrated-batters-in-baseball.html (http://highheatstats.blogspot.com/2012/01/50-most-overrated-batters-in-baseball.html)
And guess who's not on the list?
You lost again. Sorry you can't handle the truth.
You lost again. Sorry you can't handle the truth.
The beatings will continue...
Of course, in 15 or so years, you have yet to understand the game.
Heh
Its 7-0 in the 5th, and if the Ys CFBW it, they will steal win of the day from the Sox.
I'll have to be surprised by the score in the AM.
You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
It's probably true.
He's trying to traffic in facts and reason.
You're just stirring the pot to get a reaction.
Different games. But since he doesn't care about losing yours and you don't care about losing his, it makes the interchange even stupider.
You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
It's probably true.
He's trying to traffic in facts and reason.
You're just stirring the pot to get a reaction.
Different games. But since he doesn't care about losing yours and you don't care about losing his, it makes the interchange even stupider.
Still winning.
same old lame tricks, Utley.
Sometimes I wonder why I ever worried about you when I thought you were suicidal.
Asshold.
Wow.
I think you should delete this. Please.
same old lame tricks, Utley.
Sometimes I wonder why I ever worried about you when I thought you were suicidal.
Asshold.
Locus of control in action.
Wow.
I think you should delete this. Please.
Okay.
that was a pretty good game in a pretty decent series that felt like play-off ball.
that was a pretty good game in a pretty decent series that felt like play-off ball.
A little heart-pounding.
While not the weekend series I might have hoped for, effective overall.
Not sure I liked the call on the play at the plate.
Yeah...AL playoffs will be awesome this year, whether we see A's or Yanks joining Astros and Indians.
Had my +250 bet on HOU from preseason so I will stay with that.
Sox with some late inning lightning notch win #99
last time Sox won 99 games was in '78.
its funny considering I've watched this game for over 60 years that from time to time I still see something I've never seen before.
Perhaps you had seen it before. I thought you were a younger man.
Perhaps you had seen it before. I thought you were a younger man.
I was a younger man.
Now I'm not.
The 100th win?
Sox 55 games over for first tome in 106 years.
Congrats to the Red Sox on a great season. That World Championship is becoming the norm at Fenway, isn't it?
Wait.
The season's not over?
No playoff games have been played?
Okay.
Well congrats for making the playoffs, despite the weak division, of course.
True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.
or the most famous example 1954 Indians.I will gladly trade last year's win streak for Houston's rings.
But the premise its "only flags count: is BS.
Most of us are watch and enjoy a sports where our teams rarely win a championship.
but we keep on watching, knowing there is only a modest chance of a champioship.
IMO its the game, skills, real drama, unscripted suspense and the sport.
The flag is a bonus.
it's a.thin line between stupid and clever. I had me a brain fart in memory of the late, great Ray Oyler.True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
The team that won the 2001 World Series didn't beat the 116 game winning Mariners. The team that lost that World Series did.
it's a.thin line between stupid and clever. I had me a brain fart in memory of the late, great Ray Oyler.True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
Maybe. But I think that because the Yankees were going for their 4th WS in a row that season (and 5th of 6), I think most baseball fans remember well that it was them that knocked the Mariners off.But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
The team that won the 2001 World Series didn't beat the 116 game winning Mariners. The team that lost that World Series did.
Good point. Oops!
But nobody knows who that was, either, the vast bulk of the time.
The Mariners are more deeply embedded in our memories.
Well....
I think what Utley means is
CONGRATS for making 100 wins a thing.
Yawn.
Its flags that count.
Well....
I think what Utley means is
CONGRATS for making 100 wins a thing.
Yawn.
Its flags that count.
It don't mean a thing, if you don't get that ring!
Not the single most captivating performance by a Red Sox team this year.
Trust me - check out til Monday
GLS starting early this fall.
You bet PITCHERS and consider hot/cold offenses and home/away.
Mets are hot - but lose the other 2. Better spots for my cash.
I do figure Oswalt to be able to navigate the first inning. Thus a small bet there at even money.
GLS starting early this fall.
Oh?
You're blaming Kapler for the Phillies' implosion?
Mets fans in force at Fenway
they all were away blue colored coordinated
it was nice
as was the bipartisan chanting in the 8th
heh
JBJ got jobbed
but alls well that ends well
good win
Bogaerts another off day
Frozen computer prevented this before game time, but...
my prediction for today is that the Red Sox score more than 3 runs against DeGrom.
Trust me - check out til Monday
Nola has cooled off a bit, I think, and if it's about stats I think Scherzer got the edge everywhere (last I checked and I could be way off there). If it's about the incredibly subjective "who's a better pitcher" test I think Scherzer still has the edge.
Shoe on other foot, Dems bury itWrong thread, dummy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/keith-ellison-domestic-violence-accuser-says-democratic-party-doesnt-believe-her-story.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/keith-ellison-domestic-violence-accuser-says-democratic-party-doesnt-believe-her-story.html)
Pitchers duel in the Bronx.
now that's was a helluva way to clinch the division
Congrats to Sox fans.
Congrats to Sox fans.
Congrats to Sox fans.
Thanks - you're more than likely to get into the post-season, yourselves, so it is quite unclear that the Sox have seen the last of the Yankees for 2018.
pretty good game
deGrom is good, but I'm not sure if I'd vote him NL CY.
Who in history?
30 2b
35 hr
100 runs
100 rbi
125 bb
for a season.
Sorry - you are one HR short :)
Even your insults are stupid.No insult. He was just pointing out what a sharp guy you are.
Sorry - you are one HR short :)
And 11 more runs produced. But I chose a simpler year.
The best thing about your example was the even 100 runs and ribbies.
Sorry - you are one HR short :)
And 11 more runs produced. But I chose a simpler year.
The best thing about your example was the even 100 runs and ribbies.
All numbers should of course have a + after them.
IIRC my preseason picks for the series was Astros-(Nats or LADs-don't remember which), with Astros repeating.I have all my picks saved somewhere. I will repost them, though it may take me until the end of October to find them. I expect uncanny accuracy.
Pretty sure I had
AL div winners
Sox
Tribe
Astros
WC-Yankees (don't remember 2nd team, maybe Seattle)
NL
Nats
Cubs
LADs
WC-don't remember
Still think Astros should be favored.
Preseason picks are cool, if you want to go back (we all had WAS, CHI, LA - I am sure)
But picks this coming Monday - after we have the teams all set - would be a nice contest (number of games per series as a bonus)
I will post mine if I remember
(FTR, I believe I had a HOU repeat - over Cubs - but could have been over Nats)
- Still mulling a +240 Cubs bet for the NL title. Worried about their bullpen. Staying way away in the AL. thoug best looking $$ would be CLE
If my math is correct, if Boston wins out and Baltimore loses out, Baltimore will set a Modern Era record by finishing 66 games back, beating the 1909 Boston Doves by half a game, and the AL record 1939 St. Louis Browns 64.5 by 1.5 games. The playoff era record - Detroit 2003, a measly 47 GB? Shattered.Well piss on that. Thanks a lot, Red Sox.
The all time record, set by the egregious Cleveland Spiders in 1899 - 84 GB - is out of reach. Better luck next year, Orioles!
Almost makes me want to root for the Red Sox for the rest of the year.
Dodgers looked pretty solid. Braves did not.
Awinzawin.
And I'll take it, especially given the dire predictions for the day.
Stanton's 9th inning at-"bat" might go down in history as the worst ever.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Steven_Wright_1994.jpg/220px-Steven_Wright_1994.jpg)
Sore knee to sideline Steven Wright for ALDS
GLS . Begin.
Pedro had every right to be in that game, but maybe Grady should have let Martinez take himself out - and risk his legacy that way.
heh
Price was hooked quickly - as was Happ - sign of the times.
When the great are tasked to BE GREAT and it doesnt work out............ kill the manager/coach.
Its sports. Pedro gave it up that day. Makes him no less the hero. Could just have easily have NOT gotten beat.
Now - about McMamara pulling Schiraldi........
I stay with my ace at 5-2. Into the NINTH - you have a case - but not with six outs left - and like with the 1986 Buckner situation - Red Sox fans' SURETY that we'd have won had Pedro been removed - is irrational.
Red Sox hitters will tell you they should have scored more than 1 run in innings 5-11 vs the likes of Mussina, Heredia, Nelson, Wells and a (supposedly) tiring Rivera. And one really has to wonder - what the hell was Mariano doing in there up to 48 pitches?
heh
What was "his job"?
Who pitches the eighth and who closes?
What was "his job"?
Who pitches the eighth and who closes?
Seriously?
Re-read my posts, its all there.
or check the box scores from the 3 Sox wins in that series.
What was "his job"?
Who pitches the eighth and who closes?
Seriously?
Re-read my posts, its all there.
or check the box scores from the 3 Sox wins in that series.
I knew you wouldnt answer
Yanks had Nick Johnsonleading off, then it was the heart of the lineup.
Give me the moves.
Most important - who closes? Wakefield?
Ir wasnt a good bullpen that year. Not sure why you remember it as such.
Kid knows things.
What was "his job"?
Who pitches the eighth and who closes?
Seriously?
Re-read my posts, its all there.
or check the box scores from the 3 Sox wins in that series.
I think a good guess sees Nick Johnson get on vs Timlin, then we are in the soup anyway with Jeter up, Giambi looming later that inning.
Well, you had the adoring masses and (eventual series) results on your side.
Congrats - and watch out for that peel in the future.....
Hall of Famer
Wanted the ball
There's your logic, dickie.
Angel is what 1 for 5 tonight?
tough nite
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
Hey Banks -
Notice any posts making fun of Benintendi tonight?
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
GLS.
Graceless.
Still haven't won anything, douchebags.
I think when all is said and done a baseball manager really has one thing to do: knowing when to pull a pitcher.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
GLS.
Now that's a rejoinder Red State Ward would envy.
Brief, meaningless, and largely irrelevant to the discussion.
Most baseball fans, pundits, kibbitzers, basically anyone with an understanding of the game, understand the 2nd guess as a part of the baseball experience.
But for reasons unknown, you don't.
SSDD
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
GLS.
Now that's a rejoinder Red State Ward would envy.
Brief, meaningless, and largely irrelevant to the discussion.
Most baseball fans, pundits, kibbitzers, basically anyone with an understanding of the game, understand the 2nd guess as a part of the baseball experience.
But for reasons unknown, you don't.
SSDD
GLS...and the game isn't over, yet:
https://www.mlb.com/news/cc-sabathia-struggles-in-game-4-of-alds/c-297518200 (https://www.mlb.com/news/cc-sabathia-struggles-in-game-4-of-alds/c-297518200)
Sabathia left the game after allowing three runs on five hits and two walks, striking out one batter and hitting another. With their season on the line, the Yankees went to their bullpen to open the fourth, but some will surely wonder whether Boone should have had a quicker hook in an elimination game.
Poor sports.
Bottom line, you lose because the other team was better.
You couldn't handle losing and blamed Grady Little, and this guy and others can't handle losing, and are already blaming Boone.
Sad.
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
Hechevarria has to tag on that
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
Better team won that series.
Hechevarria has to tag on that
The fly to left?
He would have been a dead duck at 3rd.
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
GLS.
Now that's a rejoinder Red State Ward would envy.
Brief, meaningless, and largely irrelevant to the discussion.
Most baseball fans, pundits, kibbitzers, basically anyone with an understanding of the game, understand the 2nd guess as a part of the baseball experience.
But for reasons unknown, you don't.
SSDD
GLS...and the game isn't over, yet:
https://www.mlb.com/news/cc-sabathia-struggles-in-game-4-of-alds/c-297518200 (https://www.mlb.com/news/cc-sabathia-struggles-in-game-4-of-alds/c-297518200)
Sabathia left the game after allowing three runs on five hits and two walks, striking out one batter and hitting another. With their season on the line, the Yankees went to their bullpen to open the fourth, but some will surely wonder whether Boone should have had a quicker hook in an elimination game.
Poor sports.
Bottom line, you lose because the other team was better.
You couldn't handle losing and blamed Grady Little, and this guy and others can't handle losing, and are already blaming Boone.
Sad.
Troll you're just a clueless obssessed troll
Fans talk about the game, because its fun to talk about games
you just try to suck the fun from it
but you can't
you just suck
GO FUCK YOURSELF
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Pre-season the Astros were +500 +600 or thereabouts.
I've no idea or recall if you made the +250 bet or not. I suspect you're bullshitting again.
However I do recall you recently said you liked the Indians for the pennant at +1000 .
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
Cora had brass balls, and every button pushed seemed to work.
I was nervous about that one though.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Pre-season the Astros were +500 +600 or thereabouts.
I've no idea or recall if you made the +250 bet or not. I suspect you're bullshitting again.
However I do recall you recently said you liked the Indians for the pennant at +1000 .
I didnt bet on either.
The model that I was running - where I was betting (starting at 30K) games every day - I had 800 on HOU at +250.
The Indians info was that it was good odds on that team.
I have always been on the Astros to repeat, win it all.
Be good now.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
Cora had brass balls, and every button pushed seemed to work.
I was nervous about that one though.
Just you.
You want to talk strategy -and this is what you offer?
Good Lord.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Pre-season the Astros were +500 +600 or thereabouts.
I've no idea or recall if you made the +250 bet or not. I suspect you're bullshitting again.
However I do recall you recently said you liked the Indians for the pennant at +1000 .
I didnt bet on either.
The model that I was running - where I was betting (starting at 30K) games every day - I had 800 on HOU at +250.
The Indians info was that it was good odds on that team.
I have always been on the Astros to repeat, win it all.
Be good now.
I know you didn't bet it, but you pretend you do, and always manage to mention after the fact, just winners you picked.
Its pretty funny, considering in all the contests we've had over the years, you generally end up in or near dead last.
You pretty much suck at predicting.
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Pre-season the Astros were +500 +600 or thereabouts.
I've no idea or recall if you made the +250 bet or not. I suspect you're bullshitting again.
However I do recall you recently said you liked the Indians for the pennant at +1000 .
I didnt bet on either.
The model that I was running - where I was betting (starting at 30K) games every day - I had 800 on HOU at +250.
The Indians info was that it was good odds on that team.
I have always been on the Astros to repeat, win it all.
Be good now.
I know you didn't bet it, but you pretend you do, and always manage to mention after the fact, just winners you picked.
Its pretty funny, considering in all the contests we've had over the years, you generally end up in or near dead last.
You pretty much suck at predicting.
So I PRETENDED the $800 at +250?
Yeah, OK, pal.
As for sucking/not sucking - like all bettors (real $$ and not) I have my moments. But Utley is right - taking the fun out of things is YOUR sport
heh
Remaining teams and their preseason odds to win it all (from one source, dont get picky):
Brewers - 55/1
Dodgers - 7/1
Red Sox - 13/1
ASTROS - 21/4
I highly doubt Houston was anywhere near 5-1 to win the AL, being that they were right around there to win the WORLD SERIES. But please - continue being so sure of yourself, Dickie.
Remaining teams and their preseason odds to win it all (from one source, dont get picky):
Brewers - 55/1
Dodgers - 7/1
Red Sox - 13/1
ASTROS - 21/4
I highly doubt Houston was anywhere near 5-1 to win the AL, being that they were right around there to win the WORLD SERIES. But please - continue being so sure of yourself, Dickie.
Kid I posted that preseason the Astros were +500 or +600, and your post above shows them at +525.
But you had them at +250 when you made your $800 bet?
Remaining teams and their preseason odds to win it all (from one source, dont get picky):
Brewers - 55/1
Dodgers - 7/1
Red Sox - 13/1
ASTROS - 21/4
I highly doubt Houston was anywhere near 5-1 to win the AL, being that they were right around there to win the WORLD SERIES. But please - continue being so sure of yourself, Dickie.
Kid I posted that preseason the Astros were +500 or +600, and your post above shows them at +525.
But you had them at +250 when you made your $800 bet?
AMERICAN LEAGUE.
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
Cora had brass balls, and every button pushed seemed to work.
I was nervous about that one though.
Just you.
You want to talk strategy -and this is what you offer?
Good Lord.
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
We've had this discussiuon on this board several times, the facts and context are well known and perfectly clear.
Only a troll and moron and Grady would let Pedro, with a known history of weakening after 100 pitchs, and after he struggled to get through the 7th, FACE 5 MORE batters, the heart of the Yankee line-up for a 4th time in the 8th, with 100 already on his arm, with a tested and solid set-up guy and reliever in the pen.
Managerial malpractice that most fans understand.
And I understand that you don't understand.
As you are a dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
We've had this discussiuon on this board several times, the facts and context are well known and perfectly clear.
Only a troll and moron and Grady would let Pedro, with a known history of weakening after 100 pitchs, and after he struggled to get through the 7th, FACE 5 MORE batters, the heart of the Yankee line-up for a 4th time in the 8th, with 100 already on his arm, with a tested and solid set-up guy and reliever in the pen.
Managerial malpractice that most fans understand.
And I understand that you don't understand.
As you are a dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Poor Little Richie.
STILL doesn't get the idea of what it means to be beaten by another team because they were better than you when it counted the most.
ALWAYS needs an excuse.
SAD.
What a dumbfuck!!!
LMFAO!!!
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Sale's career numbers against Houston are significantly better than Price's
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Sale's career numbers against Houston are significantly better than Price's
not when you include postseason
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
We've had this discussiuon on this board several times, the facts and context are well known and perfectly clear.
Only a troll and moron and Grady would let Pedro, with a known history of weakening after 100 pitchs, and after he struggled to get through the 7th, FACE 5 MORE batters, the heart of the Yankee line-up for a 4th time in the 8th, with 100 already on his arm, with a tested and solid set-up guy and reliever in the pen.
Managerial malpractice that most fans understand.
And I understand that you don't understand.
As you are a dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Poor Little Richie.
STILL doesn't get the idea of what it means to be beaten by another team because they were better than you when it counted the most.
ALWAYS needs an excuse.
SAD.
What a dumbfuck!!!
LMFAO!!!
Wrong again troll.
and rather that address the issue, you run from it.
What a fraud you are.
The only thing amusing and which draws a laugh is that when you are confronted with an opinion supported by several facts and repeated for you to once more digest, your rebuttal remains a fact-free declaration of "GLS".
I understand your brief and empty retort is the only way you have to go, as there is no credible way to rebutt my position, as its wholly supported by facts and generally accepted baseball strategy, and management strategy, none of which you seem to grasp.
Poor pathetic troll "GLS" is not much of an essay.
But to help you out and give you the guidance you sorely need, I'll give you one more letter that captures completely the summary of your RedStateWard-lite attempt to evade anything remotely close to an adult response.
F
I hope this helps in the future, but I find it unlikely as you really are just a pathetic dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
We've had this discussiuon on this board several times, the facts and context are well known and perfectly clear.
Only a troll and moron and Grady would let Pedro, with a known history of weakening after 100 pitchs, and after he struggled to get through the 7th, FACE 5 MORE batters, the heart of the Yankee line-up for a 4th time in the 8th, with 100 already on his arm, with a tested and solid set-up guy and reliever in the pen.
Managerial malpractice that most fans understand.
And I understand that you don't understand.
As you are a dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Poor Little Richie.
STILL doesn't get the idea of what it means to be beaten by another team because they were better than you when it counted the most.
ALWAYS needs an excuse.
SAD.
What a dumbfuck!!!
LMFAO!!!
Wrong again troll.
and rather that address the issue, you run from it.
What a fraud you are.
The only thing amusing and which draws a laugh is that when you are confronted with an opinion supported by several facts and repeated for you to once more digest, your rebuttal remains a fact-free declaration of "GLS".
I understand your brief and empty retort is the only way you have to go, as there is no credible way to rebutt my position, as its wholly supported by facts and generally accepted baseball strategy, and management strategy, none of which you seem to grasp.
Poor pathetic troll "GLS" is not much of an essay.
But to help you out and give you the guidance you sorely need, I'll give you one more letter that captures completely the summary of your RedStateWard-lite attempt to evade anything remotely close to an adult response.
F
I hope this helps in the future, but I find it unlikely as you really are just a pathetic dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Spin, spin, but you just can't win. You have always been a poor sports, and an insignificant pimple on the butt of a jackass. And you remain so.
But go ahead and throw more lies and monkey shit.
Loser.
Spin, spin, you still can't win. Lie some more in your horse manure.
:) :) :) :)
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Sale's career numbers against Houston are significantly better than Price's
not when you include postseason
Yankees need starting pitchers badly. Probably worst staff of the contenders. No ace, Happ is probably a two. Severino bombed out in the second half.
Yankees need starting pitchers badly. Probably worst staff of the contenders. No ace, Happ is probably a two. Severino bombed out in the second half.
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Sale's career numbers against Houston are significantly better than Price's
not when you include postseason
It's true.
Sale still has an advantage,
2.54 ERA for Sale.
3.19 ERA for Price.
Combine that with Price's problems starting in the post-season and Sale starts under any circumstances. Honestly, Price's post-season record starting is bad enough for that conclusion regardless and I don't know what the hell you are thinking.
Thinking 2.54 is a bit off........
Adding 9 ER and 9 2/3 innings (last year vs Stros postseason) to the 54 regular season innings, you get..........
Yankees need starting pitchers badly. Probably worst staff of the contenders. No ace, Happ is probably a two. Severino bombed out in the second half.
Tanaka is the ace
18 ER in 32 innings overall since 2016.
Just 3 starts for Red Sox ns HOU (13 ER over 15+)
Shall we look at Price's recent work?59
Ga'head - bet that ranch on HOU
I am not touching any bet vs a prideful Price this series.
We're playing Houston.
Very good numbers for Price vs Astros in a Sox uni.
Enjoy.
16.2
ER × 27 ÷ outs
Very good.
Damn. No idea how Price even shows for the next game.
Heh.
Price has to find a remedy for Yankee RH sluggers no doubt.
But worth reminding you....
A) the walk to Gardner was bullshit
B) McCutcheon then hit a fly ball to left
C) the hook was quick.
Quick hook by Counsel.
74 pitches
2 hits allowed.......for Miley
Sale-Verlander
great match-up on paper
I hope Kate got to Justin this afternoon and got to him for a couple
and hope Sale got his fastball and stamina.
Head says "Stros
they're probably the best team in baseball
Heart says Sox in 7
GO SOX
the internet sleuths have video that Pearce's ball hit scraped the wall before Kemp caught it.
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/boringimpartialamericancicada (https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/boringimpartialamericancicada)
slow it down using the left arrow to .125X and you can see the ball scrape, change drop angle.
modern techology.
the internet sleuths have video that Pearce's ball hit scraped the wall before Kemp caught it.
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/boringimpartialamericancicada (https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/boringimpartialamericancicada)
slow it down using the left arrow to .125X and you can see the ball scrape, change drop angle.
modern techology.
That's a NO for me.
One more win and we get to
DAVID PRICE pitches the ALCS clincher
One more win and we get to
DAVID PRICE pitches the ALCS clincher
I expect Sale in game 5, Kiid.
David Ortiz's reaction while on the FS1 set, to Jackie Bradley, Jr.'s homer in Game 3 is pretty embarassing
I hope the Sox find a 3rd baseman by then, although tomorrow would be ok too.
I hope the Sox find a 3rd baseman by then, although tomorrow would be ok too.
Holt/Xander/Kinsler/Pearce would be bold.
Machado is the new Arod. Astros caught with Spygate II. Boston brings out the worst in people.
I think that's an incorrect call.Replay automatically review “ boundary calls”.
Really?
I dont think they needed that view at all.
Will be discussed for a while, surely
Poor Joe West. He was applauded for yesterday's excellent strike zone.
I know the replay rules. I believe West made the incorrect call.Then so did replay.
You're asking me? I hate replay.I know the replay rules. I believe West made the incorrect call.Then so did replay.
Which only begs the question why do we need it?
James is a beast.
James is a beast.
As is JBJ.
Betts is specatacular
and so don't get why Kimbrel is pitching the 8th
Betts is specatacular
and so don't get why Kimbrel is pitching the 8th
Seemed pretty curious to me, too.
But maybe Cora knows something we do not know.
I do not understand why Price was up.
If he was getting up, why wasn't he pitching the 8th. Or the 9th. Or after a baserunner. Or... whatever!
But Benny!
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U can’t say definitively that he reached over the fence. There is no angle that shows it. Fans see what they wanna see. I see a guy whose body hadn’t hit the wall yet, glove well ABOVE his head and multiple fans leaning and reaching out. Can’t overturn call on the field. Period
One more win and we get to
DAVID PRICE pitches the ALCS clincher
I expect Sale in game 5, Kiid.
It looks to me as if the fans' hands are over the wall and in the field of play.
(https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44197834_10101730138550278_257576120818335744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&oh=80cec30cb398c9471e255a4176f56121&oe=5C5CF2EA)
Kennedy assassination photo:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpwRzFUUcAA_tZJ.jpg:large)
Kennedy assassination photo:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpwRzFUUcAA_tZJ.jpg:large)
My 2nd favorite ALCS security guard.
I understand that the Astro's had enough cameras in the park, but unfortunately for them they were al focused on the Sox dugout.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-vs-astros-fan-involved-in-mookie-betts-interference-play-says-its-about-the-worst-call-hes-ever-seen/?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-vs-astros-fan-involved-in-mookie-betts-interference-play-says-its-about-the-worst-call-hes-ever-seen/?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e)
Fix is in. Horrible calls in the series, all going cheating Boston's way.
Sad.
One more win and we get to
DAVID PRICE pitches the ALCS clincher
I expect Sale in game 5, Kiid.
Heh
Betts' glove extended way back into the stands. (Imagine the play by play call if he had caught it)
This cannot be refuted and was the reason the call was so easy.
Take the break and move on. They should even out.
Josh justifies cheating, when it favors his desired outcome.
Which is why he never talks about Bill Clinton.
Why not leave Eovaldi in to pitch the 9th?
Why bring Kimbrel in?
Fire Cora! (jk - said for a certain somebody's benefit)
Why not leave Eovaldi in to pitch the 9th?
Why bring Kimbrel in?
Fire Cora! (jk - said for a certain somebody's benefit)
Sox dismantled a scary good team
3 on the road
JFC
that was an impressive win
Congrats dudes.
Congrats to my Red Sox fan from me sitting on a park bench in Ann Arbor.
Boy, tbe umps' stealing those two runs from the Astros Wedensday had real consequences.
Cowboy Joe almost had as good of a series as the Sox did.
His call held-up to not only to MLB replay but the angles/pics that were not shown at the time.
Boy, tbe umps' stealing those two runs from the Astros Wedensday had real consequences.
I laugh at your humor.
But I know full well that if they get those two runs it is very hard to predict how things would have gone from there.
Alert fans know what happened. Fix was in. Commissioner is a fraud.
Shamball.
Masshole with bad beard and bitter divorce whines.
STFU, Josh, you pussy.
Masshole with bad beard and bitter divorce whines.
STFU, Josh, you pussy.
Pretty funny.
Thanks for proving my point.
You cannot keep a promise and you get petulant when called out.
Mind you, you also make up shit, just like you always have.
Masshole with bad beard and bitter divorce whines.
STFU, Josh, you pussy.
Pretty funny.
Thanks for proving my point.
You cannot keep a promise and you get petulant when called out.
Mind you, you also make up shit, just like you always have.
Mind you, school marm, you're still a pussy. Proved that point with the abject panic you went into about a year ago.
So fuck off, Masshole.
Good game by the Brewers - the Dodgers never recovered from the bottom of the 1st inning.
Game 7 tomorrow (their time)!
Guesses on who wins?
I'd be comfortable with the idea that Betts is as good at second as anybody else they could put out there.
Good game by the Brewers - the Dodgers never recovered from the bottom of the 1st inning.
Game 7 tomorrow (their time)!
Guesses on who wins?
Sure. LA wins with the rocket armed kid - but its their last win this year - as THE FIX IS IN
Beat LA will once again be the battle cry in the bi-coastal war for baseball supremacy.
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Yay!
A good game. Winning when Sale only goes 5+
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Yay!
A good game. Winning when Sale only goes 5+
or even 4+.
He's not right. might want to double check the belly button ring in the off-season.
Quite the pinch hit at bat by Nuñez.
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Nice to see the OPS likely won't again be sub 600.
Solid offensive skill set
Still shouldn't have put on the 30 lbs.
Happy to hear Brandon Nimmo (4.4 WAR) is an All Star. Yankee fans I am sure will be proud of Aaron Hicks' (4.7) All Star Year as well.
Masshole with bad beard and bitter divorce whines.
STFU, Josh, you pussy.
Pretty funny.
Thanks for proving my point.
You cannot keep a promise and you get petulant when called out.
Mind you, you also make up shit, just like you always have.
Mind you, school marm, you're still a pussy. Proved that point with the abject panic you went into about a year ago.
So fuck off, Masshole.
I haven't denied despising your threats to post my private information, Utley. Having had people like you interfere in my life from here and other sites, I find the threats, whether aimed at me or at others, to be chilling.
But while I haven't denied objecting to your posting information and/or a picture of me, neither have I broken promises that I have made to stop making personal references to off-line identity, which you have done repeatedly - repeatedly promising to change and repeatedly breaking your promises.
I may be a pussy, but you remain a Boston-obsessed, lying asshole.
I'd rather be a pussy, given your definition of it.
And yeah, Utley, you are exactly who you seem to be in your posts.
The troll has proved time and time again he's an indecent sociopath, with an inability to conform to societal norms. He plays at provocative, but he is not. Stalking and revealing private information is not provocative, its an invasion of privacy, and is used as his defense when his pea-sized brain feels overwhelmed and threatened by other more informed posters who show him up for the pathetic loser he is.
Troll you should apologize to Josh, and never post here again.
Good game by the Brewers - the Dodgers never recovered from the bottom of the 1st inning.
Game 7 tomorrow (their time)!
Guesses on who wins?
Sure. LA wins with the rocket armed kid - but its their last win this year - as THE FIX IS IN
Oh, look - Utley has a new username.
Quite the pinch hit at bat by Nuñez.
Roberts let Hill throw to Noonie? Or had Hill been brought in for Devers?
Sox played about as beautiful a game of baseball as I can imagine.
Great starting pitching
timely hitting
great defense
and great relief pitching
that was beautiful
He looks lost out there
Sox played about as beautiful a game of baseball as I can imagine.
Great starting pitching
timely hitting
great defense
and great relief pitching
that was beautiful
It was quite a game.
I am very happy for David Price and I hope it means he doesn't opt out of his contract.
I am happy to see Kimbrel pitch the way he has his last 3 outings.
And I look forward to the games in Los Angeles.
Sox played about as beautiful a game of baseball as I can imagine.
Great starting pitching
timely hitting
great defense
and great relief pitching
that was beautiful
It was quite a game.
I am very happy for David Price and I hope it means he doesn't opt out of his contract.
I am happy to see Kimbrel pitch the way he has his last 3 outings.
And I look forward to the games in Los Angeles.
Sox played about as beautiful a game of baseball as I can imagine.
Great starting pitching
timely hitting
great defense
and great relief pitching
that was beautiful
It was quite a game.
I am very happy for David Price and I hope it means he doesn't opt out of his contract.
I am happy to see Kimbrel pitch the way he has his last 3 outings.
And I look forward to the games in Los Angeles.
Kimbrel got a call from Eric Gagne - that he was tipping his pitches.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wmpcns.jpg)He needs to straighten out that back leg. Horrible form.
some grace, beauty and Air 10D can clear the air of troll shit.
I wanted to vote Sox in 6, but the poll closed. Anyway, may the team that abandoned its home city receive its turn on the wheel of karma.My least and fourth least favorite teams in baseball. I am rooting for small and highly localized earthquake in the Chavez Ravine area.
I wanted to vote Sox in 6, but the poll closed. Anyway, may the team that abandoned its home city receive its turn on the wheel of karma.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wmpcns.jpg)He needs to straighten out that back leg. Horrible form.
some grace, beauty and Air 10D can clear the air of troll shit.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wmpcns.jpg)He needs to straighten out that back leg. Horrible form.
some grace, beauty and Air 10D can clear the air of troll shit.
https://twitter.com/LouMerloni/status/1055608316733411328 (https://twitter.com/LouMerloni/status/1055608316733411328)
.......with a negative DWAR.
AB is in the top three - be happy - and he may just get it - sometimes the new guy stands out -
I never said he was a bad OF
Has a popgun arm - and yeah, I know - 11 assists.
The other 2 guys are obviously top notch.
For the record - I was thinking Moreland and Betts - we shall see.
yeah - looked up tendi and gordon - got em mixed up on the assists
Well documented throwing problems for Andrew. Eye test doesnt lie
Helluva game
Wow.
Sort of the opposite of Kinsler's trip around the bases, before getting nailed at home.
Holt's journey combined with Nunez' painful journey to first base in the 13th have been quite something.
Can it hold up? (Can the Sox score more this inning?!)
The Dodgers need to get the runners in when they get runners on base, especially with no outs, they need to bunt, and do sacrifice flies, etc, to get the runners in. Buehler did a great job pitching tonight, but the Dodgers need to get runs, they cannot afford to leave runners on base, they need to get those runners in. Every swing does not need to be a home run, sometimes a bunt is all you need.
And the same with Ryu, and Kershaw, they pitch great, but the Dodgers need the batters to get runs in. They cannot be champions of the world if they keep leaving runners on base, they need to get those runners in.
Salute,
Tony V.
and fuck
what a game.
The Dodgers need to get the runners in when they get runners on base, especially with no outs, they need to bunt, and do sacrifice flies, etc, to get the runners in. Buehler did a great job pitching tonight, but the Dodgers need to get runs, they cannot afford to leave runners on base, they need to get those runners in. Every swing does not need to be a home run, sometimes a bunt is all you need.
And the same with Ryu, and Kershaw, they pitch great, but the Dodgers need the batters to get runs in. They cannot be champions of the world if they keep leaving runners on base, they need to get those runners in.
Salute,
Tony V.
Maeda is amazing, these Dodger pitchers are awesome. They need for the Dodger batters to get more runs.
Salute,
Tony V.
Wow. Longest post-season game, in elapsed time, as well. 7 hours, 20 minutes.
They should take a day off, push the schedule back.
Wow. Longest post-season game, in elapsed time, as well. 7 hours, 20 minutes.TV and radio would veto that quicker than you could say "Jack Robinson". (While that expression did not come from the ballplayer it's always appropriate when the Dodgers are involved).
They should take a day off, push the schedule back.
Wow. Longest post-season game, in elapsed time, as well. 7 hours, 20 minutes.
They should take a day off, push the schedule back.
Wimp.
Wow. Longest post-season game, in elapsed time, as well. 7 hours, 20 minutes.TV and radio would veto that quicker than you could say "Jack Robinson". (While that expression did not come from the ballplayer it's always appropriate when the Dodgers are involved).
They should take a day off, push the schedule back.
The fix is in!
And it can't be said enough, but Manny Machado is a fucking cheap shot piece of shit.He's the Mr.Utley of baseball
Nunez is a decent player, but I think the Red Sox are doing the other team a favor if they pkay him rather than Devers.
With a win tonight Sale snatches the World Series MVP honor from Price - with Pearce then likely having claim.
Havent looked at the composites - not sure who else might factor in
With a win tonight Sale snatches the World Series MVP honor from Price - with Pearce then likely having claim.I think if Boston wins tonight, the series MVP is clean Ryan Madson.
Havent looked at the composites - not sure who else might factor in
Another title for the Hub of the Universe. America's city of champions
Well, at least the Dodgers brought the World Series to Los Angeles.
Congrats to the Red Sox.
Salute,
Tony V.
Thank God that shit is over. The single most boring season in the history of bsseball. What a fucking yawnfest.
Bought and paid for.
Fix. Was. In.
The sport is now on life support.
When the Red Sox scandal of 2018 is exposed, it will die.
HEH
You'd figure that a lifetime of being a pathetic loser that the troll would handle one more humiliating loss that exposed his idiocy a little better.
I mean whats one more loss atop of the thousands he's already swallowed?
Poor schmuck I guess each one stings as much as the last.
Thank God that shit is over. The single most boring season in the history of bsseball. What a fucking yawnfest.
Bought and paid for.
Fix. Was. In.
The sport is now on life support.
When the Red Sox scandal of 2018 is exposed, it will die.
What's the outlook for the Phils next year?
Who leaves? Who is brought in?
Thanks
HEH
You'd figure that a lifetime of being a pathetic loser that the troll would handle one more humiliating loss that exposed his idiocy a little better.
I mean whats one more loss atop of the thousands he's already swallowed?
Poor schmuck I guess each one stings as much as the last.
Try dealing in reality, once in a while. I haven't lost a thing. While you keep chasing the illusion that your life will somehow be far less miserable and meaningless if a baseball team you support buys a "championship".
Sad, pathetic, wannabe.
Congrats Sox fans. Phenomenal season.
It was quite a series, despite the lopsidedness of it.
No, Banks, the Red Sox did not beat three 100-win teams, unless you count not only the post-season, but the Dodgers' win against them.
Stunning stat of the day, to me? "The Red Sox are the 13th team ever to post MLB's best record and then win the World Series."
Now, I understand that from '69 on that it has taken more than one round to make it into the playoffs, but before that there were more than 60 World Series and I would have thought that at least a quarter of the time, if not half the time, that the team with more wins would have won! But that seems not to have been the case.
And of course nobody watched it or cared outside the two participating cities. That must be why Fox won prime time for every night the World Series was being played, right?
Still, a 7th game pulls a ton more folks than a series ending with game 5. If the fix were in, then the series would have gone 7, but why let reality stand in the way of bad sport grousing?!
Of course, buying the championship must be it, not the fix! There's the ticket!
So what if the winners of the World Series over the last 4+ decades have been in the top 5 in payroll just over 50% of the time?!
https://www.surepayroll.com/resources/blog/do-giant-payrolls-win-world-series-titles
Fortunately, this is all old news to those who've been paying attention, rather than only caring selectively when they need to try to drag others down.
Boston Obsession Syndrome lives on in the heart of Utley. It's pretty funny to watch.
But not nearly as much fun to watch as the 2018 Red Sox have been.
I wonder what 2019 will bring!
p.s. thank you to the non-Boston (actual) baseball fans for your graciousness which stands in sharp contrast to the whiner from Philly.
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
Meaningless discussion.
Then again, you're still getting your ass kicked, and gave yet to figure out why .
No one outside Beanfarttown gives a flying fuck.
Richie.
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
Well, at least the Dodgers brought the World Series to Los Angeles.
Congrats to the Red Sox.
Salute,
Tony V.
https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-red-sox-stack-up-to-1998-yankees/c-299967748
The argument in favor of the 1998 Yankees as the best of the era is hard to counter, IMO.
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
Meaningless discussion.
Then again, you're still getting your ass kicked, and gave yet to figure out why .
No one outside Beanfarttown gives a flying fuck.
Richie.
Troll Seeing that you are ill equipped to participate in a conversation about baseball history, I understand why you feel threatened by it and labeled it "menaingless" However I supplied a link to an article and quote from the NY Times regarding the subject, if you want a primer on the topic, you might want to read it.
If not that's fine, as I've had other discussions on the subject elsewhere, so feel free to shit in your pants, drool uncontollably, and otherwise occupy your time as you generally do here.
No one expects you to conribute anything of value here.
SSDD
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
Meaningless discussion.
Then again, you're still getting your ass kicked, and gave yet to figure out why .
No one outside Beanfarttown gives a flying fuck.
Richie.
Troll Seeing that you are ill equipped to participate in a conversation about baseball history, I understand why you feel threatened by it and labeled it "menaingless" However I supplied a link to an article and quote from the NY Times regarding the subject, if you want a primer on the topic, you might want to read it.
If not that's fine, as I've had other discussions on the subject elsewhere, so feel free to shit in your pants, drool uncontollably, and otherwise occupy your time as you generally do here.
No one expects you to conribute anything of value here.
SSDD
Sorry, Richie. You're still losing.
Worst baseball season ever. Homers and Ks, horrible officiating, and snoozeball in between. Attendance down a commish committed to ensuring highest payrolls win, and a guy whose in morality is in question, in an era of sports betting being legalized, and a sport whose leaders now think all it needs is rule changes.
It's a meaningless and hollow victory in a downwardly spiraling era of the game.
Get help. You're still losing.
Every post of yours insures another defeat.
On the bright side I can now abandon this forum until March and let Utley and banks piss all over each other for 5 months and 300 pages.
On the bright side I can now abandon this forum until March and let Utley and banks piss all over each other for 5 months and 300 pages.
boz
i piss on on the indecent stalker troll, only because he's an indecent stalker troll, however he just dribbles a weak stream down his leg.
but I understand your desire for forum decorum.
But how 'bout them Sox?
and while you didn't get an earthquake in LA, you did get a 7-hr+ game 3 that was as close to torture as MLB, or the Geneva convention sanctions for civilians.
but it was also one of the greatest games in WS history.
Great Day for a parade.
Link?
and troll if you find baseball boring, you should find something that entertains you.Soft head. Doesn't get it. So sad.
Why hang out in a baseball forum, if it holds nothing for you?
ah well, there will always be stupid asshole trolls who try to suck the joy from life.
SSDD
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/28/sports/trump-tweets-dodgers-manager.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fbaseball&action=click&contentCollection=baseball®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=6&pgtype=sectionfront (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/28/sports/trump-tweets-dodgers-manager.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fbaseball&action=click&contentCollection=baseball®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=6&pgtype=sectionfront)
LOS ANGELES — Every baseball manager expects to be second-guessed; it comes with the job. And the bigger the stage, the greater the scrutiny.
Even so, Dave Roberts, the Los Angeles Dodgers manager, seemed startled after Game 4 of the World Series on Saturday to learn that President Trump had joined his chorus of critics. Roberts had just pulled his starter with a four-run lead and watched his bullpen collapse in a 9-6 defeat to the Boston Red Sox, putting his team one loss from elimination. In his news conference, Roberts learned that the president — who rarely tweets about baseball — had blamed him./i]
Extreme GLS: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-trump-criticizes-dodgers-pitching-moves-world-series-game-4-040525846.html?bcmt=1 (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-trump-criticizes-dodgers-pitching-moves-world-series-game-4-040525846.html?bcmt=1)
Hours after mass murder of American Jews in their house of worship, this is your president's greatest concern.
Sad.
I'm still sitting shiva for the death of baseball.
I'm still sitting shiva for the death of baseball.
I'm still waiting for the obit (or at least the citation of those who were saying it besides Mr. Utley).
I'm still sitting shiva for the death of baseball.
I'm still waiting for the obit (or at least the citation of those who were saying it besides Mr. Utley).
Could be a long wait.
The troll has been in mourning since August, over the Phillies. Seems they choked on cheese-steak, with.
In the meantime have some corned beef, its lean, and chopped liver is just like mom's.
Miss the point, much?
Miss the point, much?
Troll
Baseball ratings have been in general decline for over 30 years, this is not new. Yet you feel compelled to focus on 2018 to complain about the demise of baseball and how its boring.
Three months ago, when the philllies were over .500, your posts, when they won, were of the young exciting phitin' phils.,
And when the collapsed in early August so did your posts and enthusiasm.
But your trolling and meaningless and joyless existence continues, independent of anything.
You try but fail to suck the fun from sports.
I think you're the only one who consistently misses the point, as you never understand the point.
SSDD
Troll
You also suck at Monty Python.
If you don't like baseball or find it boring you would really be better off finding something you like or understand.
And troll, perhaps you should read the articles, many of which are repetitve about the declining ratings, or written well before the '18 post-season was played, so they can hardly be critical of the quality of play of the post-season teams.
So feel free to google "baseball dead" to define your terms, and your feeling about baseball, and I'll re-watch and re-enjoy the classic games of the '18 post-season, like Game 4 of the '18 ALCS, which was a gem of a baseball game, an all-time classic, or the 18-inning marathon Game 3 of the '18 World Series. a true epic baseball battle for the ages.
And you can go choke on a cheese-steak, wit or witout, you sad envious loser asshole troll.
Troll
when the phillies were winning, you were all about the exciting vibrant "Phitin' phils, yet when they gagged in August you stopped posting about them and by season's end you were all about baseball is dyin and is boring.
no one has denied baseball has some issues about the game and has had issues for years.
But what you miss is your blatant hypocrisy.
Whats funny is that the Sox played exciting baseball', they put the ball in play, played hit and run, stole bases, hit for power, played very good defense and had reasonably good pitching,
and proved they were the best team in baseball.
and they were fun and played with an attitude and are young.
If you had a clue about baseball or really liked it, you would recognize those Facts, but instead your head is so far up your ass and your prjeudice and obsession so pronounced you miss the fun and the sport of the sport.
And if you don't like baseball as it is, find something else until the phillies miraculously save the game.
in the meantime at least you have your cluelessness and hypocrisy to insulate yourself
SSDD
Joke award. Proof? Ian Kinsler.
'Nuff said.
Meanwhile, curious to see what MLB does regarding it's trade deadlines.
Joke award. Proof? Ian Kinsler.
'Nuff said.
Meanwhile, curious to see what MLB does regarding it's trade deadlines.
3-time pennant winner Kinsler adds World Champ to resume
Will surpass 200 hits next season. 4 time All Star
2 GG
1850 runs produced in 1800 games
100 runs six times
20 HR 5 times
30 HR 2 times
.775 SB %
57.3 WAR
40.4 WAR7
Hall?
Cool stuff about JD helping other Sox hitters
But even THAT shouldnt get him 2 Silver Sluggers in one year.
Jeeeeeeeez
Ohtani-San!!Acuna.
Congrats to Osuna as well.
But he probably has his name mispelled more often than any other candidate.
I probably would have gone with Scherzer than deGrom.
But congrats to DeGromme and the Ray's Blake Snell.
Without diving into numbers the way Kiid does, it strikes me that if these same voters were choosing in the AL in 2016, Verlander (or Kluber) would have gotten the nod over Porcello.
throwing hundreds of millions of $$$ in a dead sport?
that might be a definition of being "a little bit stupid"
Hopefully for the Phillies and their fans sake baseball like is not all dead, but only mostly dead.
RIP William Goldman
throwing hundreds of millions of $$$ at a dead sport?
that might be a definition of being "a little bit stupid"
Hopefully for the Phillies and their fans sake baseball is not all dead, but only mostly dead.
RIP William Goldman
throwing hundreds of millions of $$$ at a dead sport?
that might be a definition of being "a little bit stupid"
Hopefully for the Phillies and their fans sake baseball is not all dead, but only mostly dead.
RIP William Goldman
I see you still have a diminished capacity to comprehend what was clearly put forth.
You're brain is dead.
throwing hundreds of millions of $$$ at a dead sport?
that might be a definition of being "a little bit stupid"
Hopefully for the Phillies and their fans sake baseball is not all dead, but only mostly dead.
RIP William Goldman
I see you still have a diminished capacity to comprehend what was clearly put forth.
You're brain is dead.
What you put forth?
you made it perfectly clear
1-Baseball is a dead boring sport
and
2-the Phillies hope to be only a little bit stupid this year.
As opposed to presumably the crushing penalty of Utley-level stupid they've labored under for years.
SSDD
Mets history with aging second basemen is not good.
Mets history with aging second basemen is not good.
That's the current mythology, yes.
No.
They added Segues when they could NOT get Machado.
Sources? The ones saying Phil's will try to convince Manny to play third?
Yeah. That's what killed it.
If they were anywhere close with Manny Segura deal would have been put way back burner.
I still see Harper with the Nationals or Yankees.
I think the Yankees are entering a not caring about (PROSPECTS) stage at this point.
RSox rumored to be close to resigning Eovaldi
4/68 was the # mentioned.
His selection strengthens Dwight Evans candidacy if you care.Not sure why Baines over Will Clark or Joe Carter, let alone Evans or Albert Belle. Well, ok, Baines was never a solid gold ill-hearted full bore asshole, but still.
% when eligible isnt pertinent.
These committees were formed for that reason - to find overlooed guys
Was Edgar on the list of players/managers/execs for this particular committee to vote YES on?Martinez is still on the real ballot.
Not sure he was. BELLE was - might better use him for your point.
These new committees will certainly slant toward the Hall becoming more inclusive.
Like I said - hate the fact the committees even exist, if you so choose.
Syndergaard to Yanks setting NY afire...
Well...there you goWas Edgar on the list of players/managers/execs for this particular committee to vote YES on?Martinez is still on the real ballot.
Not sure he was. BELLE was - might better use him for your point.
These new committees will certainly slant toward the Hall becoming more inclusive.
Like I said - hate the fact the committees even exist, if you so choose.
Good back and forth today on High Heat, between Chris Russo and Tony LaRussa re: Baines
Huh? Eddie Murray's in the Hall-of-Fame and made it on the first ballot. And was the opposite of a kiss the writer's ass type of guy.Good back and forth today on High Heat, between Chris Russo and Tony LaRussa re: Baines
Heard it. Wish he would have asked LaRussa this, especially after LaRussa referenced statistics.
Um, Tony, how do you feel about being in the HOF, when you had all those players who used PEDs? Was your winning percentage as a manager as good as managers who never had those types of players? And Tony, now that MLB is taking money for gambling operations, should Pete Rose be allowed into the Hall?
Bottom line, I have no issue with guys like Baines in the Hall of Fame, since it's always been a kiss-the-writers'-asses situation. Just ask Eddie Murray and Dick Allen.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Yes the writers hated him. But they voted him into the Hall-of-Fame. Your suggestion was that the writers were using their love/hate of certain players, you used Allen and Murray as examples, to keep them out of the Hall. That wasn't the case with Murray.
And I agree. I don't think news, i.e., Hall of Fame selection, should be made by people who are supposed to report on the news.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
Baines selection is going to lead to never-ending "whataboutism".
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
We disagree.
Big surprise.
Writers as a diverse population are more objective and less conflicted than owners, managers, past teamamates.
Case in point Jerry Reinsdorf, and Tony LaRussa championed and persuaded Baines-era players to elect Baines.
Only 6% of the BBWAA writers/voters who watched him play thought thought him a good candidate.
There was no Baines conspiracy to kee[ Baines out, No one really thought he was a compelling HoF player.
Listening to most callers/pundits for the past couple of days, Baines election is getting killed.
the consensus: Nice guy, good player but he doesn't belong in the Hof.
And troll the only thing you clarified was you were wrong again.
Another guy way shortIf you say so.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
We disagree.
Big surprise.
Writers as a diverse population are more objective and less conflicted than owners, managers, past teamamates.
Case in point Jerry Reinsdorf, and Tony LaRussa championed and persuaded Baines-era players to elect Baines.
Only 6% of the BBWAA writers/voters who watched him play thought thought him a good candidate.
There was no Baines conspiracy to kee[ Baines out, No one really thought he was a compelling HoF player.
Listening to most callers/pundits for the past couple of days, Baines election is getting killed.
the consensus: Nice guy, good player but he doesn't belong in the Hof.
And troll the only thing you clarified was you were wrong again.
There you go again, with insults. You do that whenever you know you're either wrong, or have overstated your case. In this case, you've done both.
I've already proved why it's wrong for writers to create the news.
But here's more. They should not be involved in award giving.
The writers are impacting what players earn., Both on and off the field.
Can you "conflict on interest"?
Don't just take my word for it.
Others recognize this wrong you are too willing to defend: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65)
Thanks for playing, but you lost another one.
Another guy way shortIf you say so.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
We disagree.
Big surprise.
Writers as a diverse population are more objective and less conflicted than owners, managers, past teamamates.
Case in point Jerry Reinsdorf, and Tony LaRussa championed and persuaded Baines-era players to elect Baines.
Only 6% of the BBWAA writers/voters who watched him play thought thought him a good candidate.
There was no Baines conspiracy to kee[ Baines out, No one really thought he was a compelling HoF player.
Listening to most callers/pundits for the past couple of days, Baines election is getting killed.
the consensus: Nice guy, good player but he doesn't belong in the Hof.
And troll the only thing you clarified was you were wrong again.
There you go again, with insults. You do that whenever you know you're either wrong, or have overstated your case. In this case, you've done both.
I've already proved why it's wrong for writers to create the news.
But here's more. They should not be involved in award giving.
The writers are impacting what players earn., Both on and off the field.
Can you "conflict on interest"?
Don't just take my word for it.
Others recognize this wrong you are too willing to defend: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65)
Thanks for playing, but you lost another one.
Troll
Pointing out you are wrong is not an insult but rather an amply supported fact.
Objectivy and knowledge about the game are to me the needed criteria for HoF voters. IMO the BBWAA supplies both those better than any other single voter group.
The Baines election was pure cronyism by voters with varying degrees of conflicts of interest and personal interests.
This tainted election process has been mocked the last few days as its obvious flaws exposed for most to see,
A diverse group of 500 reporters and writers voting five (5) plus years from the candidates retirement have no such direct conflicts or biases.
In general they bring knowlwedge gained from years of watching the game and modest side issues which could cloud neutral assessments.
I understand that you do not understand, but trust me when I say your intellectual short-comings and inability to construct a coherent argument supporting your postion should not be a permanent barrier to you learning.
Asking questions might be a good way for you to to start.
And troll if you bothered to read the article you lnked to
here was the most important sentence in the article.
There may not be a more qualified group (BBWAA) to vote on players’ credentials for the Hall or for MVP, Cy Young honors, etc.
I don't believe the argument that sportswriters shouldn't be voting (which is more of an argument about journalism) is an argument that a special select committee of the type selecting Baines should be. I think the silliness of Baines' choice is obvious. I also think that the large group of sportswriters who believe that that they know who used PEDs and/or can thread the needle in determining how much such PED use enhanced a players' candidacy are, in fact, biased, and ignorant of the games' history where cheaters often prospered.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
We disagree.
Big surprise.
Writers as a diverse population are more objective and less conflicted than owners, managers, past teamamates.
Case in point Jerry Reinsdorf, and Tony LaRussa championed and persuaded Baines-era players to elect Baines.
Only 6% of the BBWAA writers/voters who watched him play thought thought him a good candidate.
There was no Baines conspiracy to kee[ Baines out, No one really thought he was a compelling HoF player.
Listening to most callers/pundits for the past couple of days, Baines election is getting killed.
the consensus: Nice guy, good player but he doesn't belong in the Hof.
And troll the only thing you clarified was you were wrong again.
There you go again, with insults. You do that whenever you know you're either wrong, or have overstated your case. In this case, you've done both.
I've already proved why it's wrong for writers to create the news.
But here's more. They should not be involved in award giving.
The writers are impacting what players earn., Both on and off the field.
Can you "conflict on interest"?
Don't just take my word for it.
Others recognize this wrong you are too willing to defend: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65)
Thanks for playing, but you lost another one.
Troll
Pointing out you are wrong is not an insult but rather an amply supported fact.
Objectivy and knowledge about the game are to me the needed criteria for HoF voters. IMO the BBWAA supplies both those better than any other single voter group.
The Baines election was pure cronyism by voters with varying degrees of conflicts of interest and personal interests.
This tainted election process has been mocked the last few days as its obvious flaws exposed for most to see,
A diverse group of 500 reporters and writers voting five (5) plus years from the candidates retirement have no such direct conflicts or biases.
In general they bring knowlwedge gained from years of watching the game and modest side issues which could cloud neutral assessments.
I understand that you do not understand, but trust me when I say your intellectual short-comings and inability to construct a coherent argument supporting your postion should not be a permanent barrier to you learning.
Asking questions might be a good way for you to to start.
And troll if you bothered to read the article you lnked to
here was the most important sentence in the article.
There may not be a more qualified group (BBWAA) to vote on players’ credentials for the Hall or for MVP, Cy Young honors, etc.
Your feeble attempts to belittle me, as a result of you being schooled once again as to why writers should be disqualified from any voting are as lame as your belief system that you are anyone else's superior.
That said, you've revealed that
you didn't read it completely, or you would have likely comprehended the MAJOR PART OF THE PIECE.
Likely, though being as dense as you are, you may not fully grasp what has been so well defined.
But here's your last chance to gather in what is so plain for any normally functioning individual to understand:
The Washington Post has a long-running policy preventing its writers from voting on any and all awards. Other organizations — including the New York Times, Los Angeles Times and Baltimore Sun — have similar policies. So while these decisions were taken out of my hands for me, let’s follow a couple of examples of why we all need to pull ourselves out of these processes.
Hall of Famers, of course, make more money in retirement than really good players do. Speaking engagements, card signings, potential endorsement deals — they’re all impacted by whether a player is in the Hall. “Hall of Famer Johnny Bench” simply earns more than “former Reds catcher Johnny Bench.”
If that doesn’t seem like a direct link between a writer voting and a player’s earning potential, look at current players’ contracts. Carlos Gomez is a veteran major league outfielder who, this offseason, signed a one-year, $11.5 million contract to return to the Texas Rangers, with whom he had revitalized his career. This wasn’t a marquee signing, and it barely made much of a ripple outside of Arlington, Tex.
What also didn’t make a ripple because they’re so mainstream: clauses in Gomez’s contract that would pay him $250,000 for winning the American League MVP award, $200,000 for coming in second, down to $50,000 for placing fifth — in voting performed by two members of the BBWAA in each AL city.
Should Gomez be named the World Series MVP, he would receive $150,000. Should he be the MVP of the American League Championship Series, that’s $100,000. Both of those postseason honors have BBWAA members as part of the voting panel, joining broadcasters. Given he hit .231 and slugged .384 while splitting time between Houston and Texas in 2016, Gomez would be a candidate for comeback player of the year in 2017. That would be worth $150,000, and that, too, would be voted on by baseball writers.
So Gomez could earn $650,000 in awards voted on by the people who cover him. And he is just an example.
In some ways, these kind of pay-for-performance deals should be praised because they reward players for what they accomplish, not what they might do. The problem lies in how those accomplishments are determined. Think about it: Part of a Rangers beat writer’s job is having at least a working relationship with Gomez. What’s to prevent Gomez, at the end of a strong season, from approaching a reporter and saying, “Hey, you thinking about me for MVP?”
...the current setup assigns responsibility where it does not belong.
Part of a sportswriter’s job is to debate the historical merits of Guerrero, Rodriguez, Bagwell and the other candidates up for the Hall or argue whether Daniel Murphy or Kris Bryant should have been the National League MVP last season. Affecting the livelihoods of athletes, either during or after their careers, most certainly is not.
What you excuse, and attempt to paint as competence, is indeed NOT part of a sportswriter's job--an assertion put forth by a professional sportswriter.
You apparently don't even know what the discussion is, or you'd have the sense to shut your pie-hole, dim one.
Once again, you missed the clearly stated arguments being against writers being involved in the HOF or for any awards for athletes.
I didn't support Baines selection, nor did I oppose it. Don't confuse the two issues.
And admit when you're wrong.
As you were again.
The beatings and your abject humiliation will continue, so best you learn to get used to it, Igor.
Nice recovery, Junior. You've revised your opinion.
But it doesn't change the point that writers are peddling influence of cash flowing to athletes during and after their careers, and that is just wrong.
My view is that the bias among the writers has become more pronounced. I think it will ease over the years. Which is certainly not an argument for special committees. At the same time any discussion inevitably leading to a discussion about the issue of PEDs is probably not worth having.Nice recovery, Junior. You've revised your opinion.
But it doesn't change the point that writers are peddling influence of cash flowing to athletes during and after their careers, and that is just wrong.
there is no revison whatsoever.
Some bias is inherant in any human endeavor.
That you do not understand basic human psychology just adds to the list of stuff you don't have a clue about.
SSDD
My view is that the bias among the writers has become more pronounced. I think it will ease over the years. Which is certainly not an argument for special committees. At the same time any discussion inevitably leading to a discussion about the issue of PEDs is probably not worth having.Nice recovery, Junior. You've revised your opinion.
But it doesn't change the point that writers are peddling influence of cash flowing to athletes during and after their careers, and that is just wrong.
there is no revison whatsoever.
Some bias is inherant in any human endeavor.
That you do not understand basic human psychology just adds to the list of stuff you don't have a clue about.
SSDD
My view is that the bias among the writers has become more pronounced. I think it will ease over the years. Which is certainly not an argument for special committees. At the same time any discussion inevitably leading to a discussion about the issue of PEDs is probably not worth having.Nice recovery, Junior. You've revised your opinion.
But it doesn't change the point that writers are peddling influence of cash flowing to athletes during and after their careers, and that is just wrong.
there is no revison whatsoever.
Some bias is inherant in any human endeavor.
That you do not understand basic human psychology just adds to the list of stuff you don't have a clue about.
SSDD
I'm thinking we've broken through some barrier. The Orioles new manager is named "Brandon". I sense the days of skippers named "Doc" are long gone.
I'm thinking we've broken through some barrier. The Orioles new manager is named "Brandon". I sense the days of skippers named "Doc" are long gone.
How many years did Jeter have a 6+ WAR?
That is correct.
And half as many as ALAN TRAMMEL.
Trammel, Barry Larkin and Jeter have almost identical career WAR. (Nomar not close, of course)
Passing on a question from MLB Twitter:Probably Ken Griffey Jr., Alex Rodriguez or Frank Robinson. For.pitchers, Randy Johnson. I also saw Verlander's MLB debut.
Who is the best player you have seen in person?
PeakUh... I realize he is a New England icon, but he is kind of in a non-jock holding relationship ship with the other three. It.would be like listing Kaline.
ARod
Frank Robby
Griffey Jr.
Yaz
PeakUh... I realize he is a New England icon, but he is kind of in a non-jock holding relationship ship with the other three. It.would be like listing Kaline.
ARod
Frank Robby
Griffey Jr.
Yaz
PeakUh... I realize he is a New England icon, but he is kind of in a non-jock holding relationship ship with the other three. It.would be like listing Kaline.
ARod
Frank Robby
Griffey Jr.
Yaz
Yaz?
I mostly threw him in for old-time and conversational sakes. But you may want to take a gander at his stats and WAR in the '67-'70 period. He AVERAGED 9.5 WAR in those 4 years, and during a time when pitching was dominant,
AND his '67 season was the single greatest year I've seen any player have in watching the game 60 years.
In terms of this discussion he belongs.
Yastrzemski hit .326 to go with 44 home runs and 121 RBI, 112 runs and 189 hits, all leading the league. As a result, he was a no-brainer for the MVP award that year, and a massive 12.2 WAR was thanks to great defense as well. In 1967. Total bases 360. Ops 1.040. A great season.
Joe Morgan in 1975, led the league with 132 walks while batting .327 with 67 stolen bases, 17 home runs and 94 RBI. That and a WAR of 12 led to his first of two MVP awards. 1.020 ops. A great season... because...
Morgan won the World Series, too.
Yaz?..uh, no. Never won.
I guess you missed early Doc
Yastrzemski hit .326 to go with 44 home runs and 121 RBI, 112 runs and 189 hits, all leading the league. As a result, he was a no-brainer for the MVP award that year, and a massive 12.2 WAR was thanks to great defense as well. In 1967. Total bases 360. Ops 1.040. A great season.
Joe Morgan in 1975, led the league with 132 walks while batting .327 with 67 stolen bases, 17 home runs and 94 RBI. That and a WAR of 12 led to his first of two MVP awards. 1.020 ops. A great season... because...
Morgan won the World Series, too.
Yaz?..uh, no. Never won.
Arguing that to be a great player, one had to have won the championship?
I think it safe to say the poster who made the WS argument doesn't understand that baseball is a team game, and one where pitching has a much greater impact of W than any single player.
Yet holding Yaz accountable for Sox failures in the WS ('67 and '75) and diminshing him for that, but not holding Trout to the same standard, seems hypocritical.
IMO the Sox facing two juggernauts in the 60s Cards and 70s Reds were huge underdogs but took both series to 7 games. And who knows maybe if Tony C played in '67 or Rie in '75, events would have turned out different.
Our dumbfukk poster should probably take a look at Yaz's WS #s, they are better than his regulat season #s. The guy performed pretty well on the big stage.
But he may be correct the Trout may be the next best player.
If he can manage to put a 10.6 WAR year in '19, he will match the 4-year average WAR (9.5) Yaz compiled in '67-70.
there was nothhing personnel-I agreed with the poster who characterized your opinion as a "dumfukk" take,
and nothing you've posted since would change my mind.
btw with your recent name change you may be Elba's first 5-troll poster
or now that I start recalling them, it might be 6, 7 or 8
heh
there was nothhing personnel-I agreed with the poster who characterized your opinion as a "dumfukk" take,
and nothing you've posted since would change my mind.
btw with your recent name change you may be Elba's first 5-troll poster
or now that I start recalling them, it might be 6, 7 or 8
heh
You seem to be under a lot of stress. Hope you get the help you need. Tough time of year for those dealing with depression.
Good luck.
Oh, and get a spell check app. Might help you be better understood by others.
Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?
Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.
In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090 (https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090)
Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?
Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.
In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090 (https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090)
HEH
wrong again troll
I'm not pissed but amused by your idiocy.
you got challenged by several posters on your irrelavant inclusion of a team statistic, when the topic was individual performance, so you got defensive and decided insults were the way to go.
you made the wrong choice moron.
SSDD
Goose Goslin
heh
Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?
Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.
In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090 (https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090)
HEH
wrong again troll
I'm not pissed but amused by your idiocy.
you got challenged by several posters on your irrelavant inclusion of a team statistic, when the topic was individual performance, so you got defensive and decided insults were the way to go.
you made the wrong choice moron.
SSDD
Goose Goslin
heh
Yes, that was an error of deletion. But nice if you to ignore the actual argument that trumped yours.
Obviously, you remain confused.
Addled easily.
The insults were all yours in the making.
AMT. It really can help.
Good luck, addled one.
Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
No that's not a fair assessment.Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
So...he choked. Would that be a fair assessment?
Meanwhile in Game 7 of 1975 Series, Joe Morgan delivered the GWRBI.
No that's not a fair assessment.Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
So...he choked. Would that be a fair assessment?
Meanwhile in Game 7 of 1975 Series, Joe Morgan delivered the GWRBI.
No that's not a fair assessment.Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
So...he choked. Would that be a fair assessment?
Meanwhile in Game 7 of 1975 Series, Joe Morgan delivered the GWRBI.
Of course it isn't fair. But we all have seen players villified for failing in a big spot. Carlos Beltran watching strike three go by to end a playoff series comes to mind.
My point is that no one here knocked Yaz as not being a great player. Just others are/were better. And that isn't a subjective analysis, whereas judging a "choke" would be.
No one villified Yaz. But someone here with a dime view if reality flipped out when he found out Yaz was not as good a player as others.
At the very least that's abject immaturity. At best, it's delusional thinking.
Moron
the question posed was "who was the best player you saw in person?"
And I gave my answer to that and with reasons why.
You are either clueless or tone deaf to think you can tell me who I should rank where and when as for the most part my universe is alot different than yours.
for example I did not see in person a lot of NL stars, but I saw some.
similairy I'm not going to waste my time telling you about a guy who I probably didn't see in person (Morgan) or why his best year was highly unlikely to come close to Yaz's best year, as its irrelevant to the discussion.
that you fail to grasp this is not surprising as you 1) think everything is about you 2) you're a fucking moron
Would have likely happened any way-for reasons unknown, the troll enjoys his roll as village know-nothing d-bag.
He is however an expert on Goose Goslin and copy and pasting.
To the extent my comments on Yaz led to the last few page pissing match, I apologize to the forum.
Moron
the question posed was "who was the best player you saw in person?"
And I gave my answer to that and with reasons why.
You are either clueless or tone deaf to think you can tell me who I should rank where and when as for the most part my universe is alot different than yours.
for example I did not see in person a lot of NL stars, but I saw some.
similairy I'm not going to waste my time telling you about a guy who I probably didn't see in person (Morgan) or why his best year was highly unlikely to come close to Yaz's best year, as its irrelevant to the discussion.
that you fail to grasp this is not surprising as you 1) think everything is about you 2) you're a fucking moron
you are indeed the loser you would like to paint others as being.
Moron
the question posed was "who was the best player you saw in person?"
And I gave my answer to that and with reasons why.
You are either clueless or tone deaf to think you can tell me who I should rank where and when as for the most part my universe is alot different than yours.
for example I did not see in person a lot of NL stars, but I saw some.
similairy I'm not going to waste my time telling you about a guy who I probably didn't see in person (Morgan) or why his best year was highly unlikely to come close to Yaz's best year, as its irrelevant to the discussion.
that you fail to grasp this is not surprising as you 1) think everything is about you 2) you're a fucking moron
you are indeed the loser you would like to paint others as being.
heh
awesome rebuttal.
Its so sad that the point had to be spelled out several times for you and your rebuttal is all but muffled out by your tears of resignation.
You really are very stupid.
Thanks
Hadn't heard.
A Stanton deal would have to be similar to what LA just did, but in reverse. With Tanks getting virtually nothing in return.
consensus seems to be when the ball drops in Time Sq. tonught
Machado will emerge in pinstripes
and take out Anderson Cooper's knee
Boston Red Sox Writer: The guy who is number one in post-season pitching for games, WHIP, ERA, and Saves, with the MOST INNINGS PITCHED, is NOT a HOFer.
https://www.telegram.com/news/20181222/bill-ballou-mariano-rivera-not-getting-this-writers-hall-of-fame-vote (https://www.telegram.com/news/20181222/bill-ballou-mariano-rivera-not-getting-this-writers-hall-of-fame-vote)
And again, writers should not be voting for the HALL.
Particularly, the obvious home team supporters among them.
My thought on the Hall of Fame is that it is more than numbers, that its members must have the kind of presence that would make somebody buy a ticket — not hometown fans, but general baseball fans — just to say they saw him play.
Rivera fits that description. He is a larger-than-life performer whose character is impeccable. He has had a long career, albeit in a role I do not value, a role I equate with a PAT kicker in football or a shootout guy in hockey.
Robertson inks two year deal with Philadelphia.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-reportedly-sign-reliever-david-robertson-two-year-23-million-deal-184125107.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-reportedly-sign-reliever-david-robertson-two-year-23-million-deal-184125107.html)
Ballou's argument is that the closer's role has been overblown and is very limited.
He may be right in that regard, and probably accounts for that only six (I think) relievers have been elected to the HoF.
I'd vote for Rivera. Some guys deserve the Hall and Rivera is one of them.
Ballou's argument is that the closer's role has been overblown and is very limited.
He may be right in that regard, and probably accounts for that only six (I think) relievers have been elected to the HoF.
I'd vote for Rivera. Some guys deserve the Hall and Rivera is one of them.
That was the argument he presented, Banks, but it is not what he stated the Hall was about.
Using his own stated standard, he is just a dick.
Not to mention that it is not as if Mariano is the first one in, either.
Meanhile rumors build that Manny and Sox are serious.
Sox are white.
and Phillies considering Harper to go with Robertson.
They can have the last 2.. I think the reported Philly plan is to get Harper, sign the Keuchel, and secure Mike Trout next season.
Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF"A part time player. 100"?"
and Mo gets 100%.
Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF"A part time player. 100"?"
and Mo gets 100%.
- Idiots everywhere.
Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF
and Mo gets 100%.
Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF
and Mo gets 100%.
Could have sworn somebody - oh, right, the Worcester writer - said he wouldn't be voting for Rivera!
Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF"A part time player. 100"?"
and Mo gets 100%.
- Idiots everywhere.
Clemens and Bonds inched up, Mr. Catsup soaked sock took a 9 + point leap.
Omar up 5%. ManRam holds steady.
He said he wasn't going to cast a ballot at all which perserved the 100%.Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF
and Mo gets 100%.
Could have sworn somebody - oh, right, the Worcester writer - said he wouldn't be voting for Rivera!
Part - time player is a little bit of an anachronism. These days your starting pitcher might only go 5-6 innings every 5 days and thats considered ok.
Edgar, Halladay, Mussina, and Mo in the HoF"A part time player. 100"?"
and Mo gets 100%.
- Idiots everywhere.
Clemens and Bonds inched up, Mr. Catsup soaked sock took a 9 + point leap.
Omar up 5%. ManRam holds steady.
Only 34 wins came before age 30. Let that sink in. 235 wins after turning 30. That is artistry.
I'm not sure the HR thing is a great argument AGAINST Moyer when you note who comes right after him.
Only 34 wins came before age 30. Let that sink in. 235 wins after turning 30. That is artistry.
Had he played more for the Red Sox, you'd be claiming it was steroids, not artistry!
You are too funny.
He does still lead the majors in one career category: most home runs given up.
Only 34 wins came before age 30. Let that sink in. 235 wins after turning 30. That is artistry.
Had he played more for the Red Sox, you'd be claiming it was steroids, not artistry!
You are too funny.
He does still lead the majors in one career category: most home runs given up.
Thanks for demonstrating your ignorance of the game.
Guess Spahn, Roberts, and Jenkins were lousy pitchers,, too. Oh wait, none of them pitched in the DH Steroids ERA of baseball.
That, and consider how you have to pitch a long, long, time and a lot of innings. Do that in small parks, too. Like Wrigley, Fenway, CBP, and Colorado.
Again, wins after age 30. Stunning company he keeps.
Stat of the dayWell, yeah. Everyone ran on his arm.
In his final season as a fulltime OF (40%)of his overall games played were as an OF), Harold Baines threw out FIFTEEN baserunners.
Being popular doesn't mean being good. Longevity matters, especially in pitching. With each post, you show you know booklearning, but not baseball.
Goodbye.
This Sixto Sanchez must be some arm.
At least a few publications feel Phils got hosed.
I feel sometimes when that one piece is dangling out there that fits so perfectly - that a slight overpay is just fine
So best of luck to young Mr Sanchez - if he is a Hall of Famer this doesnt mean Phils should not have acted. Gonna hate seeing J T in that Phils lineup as Mets try to stack up.
NL East becoming best division in MLB?
Lots of people think that competition still creates valuable and the best form of entertainment. Guess you aren't one of them.
Negabostonadouche.
Lots of people think that competition still creates valuable and the best form of entertainment. Guess you aren't one of them.
Negabostonadouche.
I think the problem here is that you are shifting the definition of "best" to whatever suits your argument at the moment. Normally, you mean the one that fields the strongest teams (more than one) - that could be expected to have the best record vs. other divisions.
But since that doesn't fit the NL East, you are choosing instead that competitiveness within the division is what you mean by "best." Good luck selling that definition outside of your own head.
Lots of people think that competition still creates valuable and the best form of entertainment. Guess you aren't one of them.
Negabostonadouche.
I think the problem here is that you are shifting the definition of "best" to whatever suits your argument at the moment. Normally, you mean the one that fields the strongest teams (more than one) - that could be expected to have the best record vs. other divisions.
But since that doesn't fit the NL East, you are choosing instead that competitiveness within the division is what you mean by "best." Good luck selling that definition outside of your own head.
You fail to recognize that 4 teams in that Division are projected to win 85 or more games. There is no other division rated as such. Therefore, it's the best.
That you can't handle that situation indicates your own weakmindedness, Professor Dimwit.
You do understand the difference between a division vs am individual team, don't you, Master of Arts in Education?
Which are the 120 win baseball teams?
NL East 4 teams (rounded off) at 90-70
AL East has 2 teams 120-40 and then Tampa wins 100?
Heh.
You're not that dumb
Your 12-4 bit is whack. 10-6 would have worked. 2 teams 10-6 = 2 teams 102-60 in baseball
But if you can easily make it match up - YES - simple intelligence would say that you would
12-4 = 120-40
This one was beyond easy for Bankie
I think you are overly optimistic about their burgeoning strength
Why? Have you actually looked at the talent that each team in the NL East, save the Marlins, added? Each of those teams plugged holes they had.
Machado to the Padres.
Machado to the Padres.
dirty player
I'm glad he's out of the AL E
there's no reason to believe a sewer dwelling shit covered brain-damaged troll might castigate the dirty style of play that Machado has exhibited.
or fail to appreciate a how good a player Pedroia is/was.
the troll just doesn't know any better, and never will.
there's no reason to believe a sewer dwelling shit covered brain-damaged troll might castigate the dirty style of play that Machado has exhibited....a shit-for-brains cretan like yourself...
or fail to appreciate a how good a player Pedroia is/was.
the troll just doesn't know any better, and never will.
Ciao, dummy.
there's no reason to believe a sewer dwelling shit covered brain-damaged troll might castigate the dirty style of play that Machado has exhibited.
or fail to appreciate a how good a player Pedroia is/was.
the troll just doesn't know any better, and never will.
In other words, you can't argue the point. Machado is a complete player who still has a little old school to his game, something not seen in Boston in years.
Then again, a shit-for-brains cretan like yourself hasn't figured out that Pedroia is Nomar II. Lots of early praise, but in the end, not durable, and seriously greatly overrated.
Ciao, dummy.
Guess Willie Mays was a dirty player.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2019/02/21/veteran-globe-baseball-writer-nick-cafardo-dies/2ApW3rmk8q7I5qfeOmOjfL/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2019/02/21/veteran-globe-baseball-writer-nick-cafardo-dies/2ApW3rmk8q7I5qfeOmOjfL/story.html)
Nick Cafardo, the Boston Globe’s nationally recognized and widely respected baseball columnist, died Thursday in Fort Myers, Fla. He was 62. Cafardo’s love of baseball and commitment to his craft compelled him to report to JetBlue Park, the spring training home of the Red Sox, on one of his rare days off. He was apparently stricken by an embolism at the park, and members of the Sox medical team were unable to revive him.
62 is too young.
Nick took over the Sunday Notes column and you could tell he loved the game.
RIP
(https://sports.cbsimg.net/images//visual/whatshot/McRae-takeout-slides-1-2-030816.jpg)
Hal McRae...dirty player?
Red Sox. Dirt bag cheaters: The Boston Red Sox were caught by baseball’s authorities in a scheme to use the Apple Watch to steal signs from New York Yankees catchers.
Investigators confirmed accusations by the Yankees that a Red Sox trainer used his Apple Watch to receive messages from the team’s video room about upcoming pitches, and then passed those messages to the dugout, where they were signaled to teammates on the field.
That's way worse than sliding hard into second and making Pedroia cry.
Big Papi, steroids user. Defended vehemently by Boston Cartel members. No explanation. Expelled from school.
You think a lot of things. Doesn't make them reality.
Hardball. A different game than the one Richie and Joshie coach their little "special friends" to play.
https://youtu.be/8C4aNME9Q1I (https://youtu.be/8C4aNME9Q1I)
I know you can't handle banks getting beat at his own game, but don't feel compelled to try to always protect him. If he's a man, he doesn't need you.
Just walk away, Joshie.
Uh, huh, sure.
I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong. For example, I was wrong about you being fairminded .
But the bottom line, I'm rarely wrong.
Looking like a shit year for the AL forum
Sad that you dicks have hijacked it.
NYK forum all that bears visiting these days.
Enjoy the year, idiots.
Aw, Joshie. Admit it. You're exactly the same stubborn mule as anyone else. The difference is, that whenever you get frustrated, you label anyone who disagrees with you as a racist or a bigot.Uh, huh, sure.
I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong. For example, I was wrong about you being fairminded .
But the bottom line, I'm rarely wrong.
You're the second-to-last to admit when you are wrong.
And you have zero ability to evaluate whether anybody else is fairminded.
But I will admit freely to biases, Piggy. Hypocrites who attack others' fairmindedness when they illustrate prejudice on a regular basis are among those I am biased against. Just one example.
Looking like a shit year for the AL forum
Sad that you dicks have hijacked it.
NYK forum all that bears visiting these days.
Enjoy the year, idiots.
Looking like a shit year for the AL forum
Sad that you dicks have hijacked it.
NYK forum all that bears visiting these days.
Enjoy the year, idiots.
Tell banks. He is the source of all the horseshit that stains this forum. Had he accepted an honest mea culpa years ago, this would have ended.
Looking like a shit year for the AL forum
Sad that you dicks have hijacked it.
NYK forum all that bears visiting these days.
Enjoy the year, idiots.
Tell banks. He is the source of all the horseshit that stains this forum. Had he accepted an honest mea culpa years ago, this would have ended.
Sadly, his perverse pride has impeded that circumstance, and you, sir, are merely his collateral damage.
Mostly, I'm not worried.
That doesn't mean that what you cited might not be issues, but we survived Pedroia's absence, I know what the stats are for closing out games overall, and while I would prefer to have a healthy Sale, if we don't our fate will hang on other pitchers' health. Wright is among the bullpen arms that could and would shift at need to starting.
https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1099762153186361344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1099762153186361344&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnesn.com%2F2019%2F02%2Fred-soxs-fenway-park-voted-best-ballpark-in-major-league-baseball%2F
According to MLB on Fox fans, Fenway Park is the best ballpark in the majors.
predictions on objections?
Harper gets bakers dozen with the Phillies.What is the over/under for the date the first D Battery is thrown at him by Phillies fans?
13/330 no opt outs.
According to Jeff Passan
"Bryce Harper’s deal with the Philadelphia Phillies will be for $330 million, a new record for overall dollars, topping the $325 million of Giancarlo Stanton, league sources tell ESPN."
whether this is "stupid money" remains to be seen.
Harper gets bakers dozen with the Phillies.What is the over/under for the date the first D Battery is thrown at him by Phillies fans?
13/330 no opt outs.
According to Jeff Passan
"Bryce Harper’s deal with the Philadelphia Phillies will be for $330 million, a new record for overall dollars, topping the $325 million of Giancarlo Stanton, league sources tell ESPN."
whether this is "stupid money" remains to be seen.
That's a good team. NL East is a bear.
Just took a look at the Sox schedule, they open the seaon with 11 road games (West coast).
Just took a look at the Sox schedule, they open the seaon with 11 road games (West coast).
Preseason whining is bad form.
Harper gets bakers dozen with the Phillies.What is the over/under for the date the first D Battery is thrown at him by Phillies fans?
13/330 no opt outs.
According to Jeff Passan
"Bryce Harper’s deal with the Philadelphia Phillies will be for $330 million, a new record for overall dollars, topping the $325 million of Giancarlo Stanton, league sources tell ESPN."
whether this is "stupid money" remains to be seen.
Is that where he went? I remember him jumping to a shitty team somewhere, but we replaced him with Pronk, so that was ok.Harper gets bakers dozen with the Phillies.What is the over/under for the date the first D Battery is thrown at him by Phillies fans?
13/330 no opt outs.
According to Jeff Passan
"Bryce Harper’s deal with the Philadelphia Phillies will be for $330 million, a new record for overall dollars, topping the $325 million of Giancarlo Stanton, league sources tell ESPN."
whether this is "stupid money" remains to be seen.
Still smarting from Thome going to Philly, I see.
Sad.
Harper gets bakers dozen with the Phillies.
13/330 no opt outs.
According to Jeff Passan
"Bryce Harper’s deal with the Philadelphia Phillies will be for $330 million, a new record for overall dollars, topping the $325 million of Giancarlo Stanton, league sources tell ESPN."
whether this is "stupid money" remains to be seen.
Supposedly it is his dlgoal to finish his career with one team. Though I suspect Phillie fan may get him to change his mind.Harper gets bakers dozen with the Phillies.
13/330 no opt outs.
According to Jeff Passan
"Bryce Harper’s deal with the Philadelphia Phillies will be for $330 million, a new record for overall dollars, topping the $325 million of Giancarlo Stanton, league sources tell ESPN."
whether this is "stupid money" remains to be seen.
A dumb-ass deal. He turned down 300 over 10 years for this? 180 over 4 years for this??
Harper gets bakers dozen with the Phillies.
13/330 no opt outs.
According to Jeff Passan
"Bryce Harper’s deal with the Philadelphia Phillies will be for $330 million, a new record for overall dollars, topping the $325 million of Giancarlo Stanton, league sources tell ESPN."
whether this is "stupid money" remains to be seen.
A dumb-ass deal. He turned down 300 over 10 years for this? 180 over 4 years for this??
Its a bad deal for Bryce unless he plans to just get lazy and stop trying. Then it's a great deal for Bryce. Bad deal for the Philistines.
a little early for me to declare a 13 year deal good or bad, but it seems the Phillies have secured their future DH
Yeah. Bad deal for the Phillies:Before the Bryce Harper news broke yesterday, the #Phillies had sold roughly 200,000 more tickets than at this same point last year. They have sold about 100,000 tickets since, #Phillies senior VP of ticket operations John Weber said. Hard to say, but it might be a 1-day record.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-sold-100000-tickets-in-less-than-24-hours-after-signing-bryce-harper-195043717.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-sold-100000-tickets-in-less-than-24-hours-after-signing-bryce-harper-195043717.html)
Amazing:
https://twitter.com/Fanatics/status/1102342868398567424 (https://twitter.com/Fanatics/status/1102342868398567424)
That is why he got paid. Nothing to do with regular baseball stats. Already ringing that cash register for the team.
I'll be happy if he plays well, and the team competes down the stretch. But the team has to be over the moon with the dollars he is already generating.
Sorry, Kam, but that's why he was "worth it".
Chris "Not On" Sale starts lobbying for an LTC: https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/why-chris-sale-believes-he-built-long-haul?utm_source=dlvr.it (https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/why-chris-sale-believes-he-built-long-haul?utm_source=dlvr.it)
I just skimmed that article and probably missed the great rationales, but moving the mound back seems dumb and risky.
Why would a knuckleball pitcher roid up?
Why would a knuckleball pitcher roid up?
Baseball balls have now been phased out, even in the intercontinental league, the last and most traditional of the three leagues. All pitches are virtual and stats are kept on velocity, exit angle, brexit angle, and Adam Engel.
Bases are no longer necessary as running has been deemed an "injury-risk" that Amazon insurance refuses to cover. All baserunning will be done via computer based on 40 yard sprint speeds held at the Baseball Combines every year. Speeds will accrue 1.5 degrees of age-related air-resistance per season the batter has in the major leagues. A season is defined as 40 games out of the possible 162 games.
Baseball will always be 162 games. They will just be 45 minutes long.
I totally forgot about the Japanese winter ball MLB opening day.
Welcome to 2019.
Looks like I was right on -Yes, other than missing on the years and dollar value, right on in your prediction for the years and dollar value.
Said 6-168
Looks like I was right on -Yes, other than missing on the years and dollar value, right on in your prediction for the years and dollar value.
Said 6-168
heh
kid's after the fact predictions are almost prescient
heh
kid's after the fact predictions are almost prescient
......and your constant assumption someone is lying is quite sad.
NLE-Phillies
NLE
Nats, Phils, Braves, Mets, Fish
ALE
Yanks, BoSox, Rays, Jays, O’s
ALC
Twins, Indians, ChiSox, Royals, Tigers
ALW
‘Stros, A’s, Angels, Mariners, Rangers
NLE
Nats, Phils, Braves, Mets, Fish
NLC
Cubs, Cards, Brewers, Pirates, Reds
NLW
Dodgers, Rockies, Padres, D’backs, Giants
Wild Card winners: Bosox, A’s. Phils, Cards.
AL Champions: Astros beat NY
NL Champions: Dodgers beat Nats
WS: Astros beat LA
ALE-Sox
ALC-Tribe
ALW-Astros
NLE-Phillies
NLC-Cubs
NLW-LADs
WC NYY Mariners Nats Brewers
AL Champions: Sox over Astros
NL Champions: Cubs over Dodgers
WS: Sox over Cubs
Cubs -114 at Texas
Toronto -140 vs Detroit
St Louis +100 vs Milwaukee
Colorado -131 vs Marlins
Arizona +150 vs Dodgers
Cubs -114 at Texas
Toronto -140 vs Detroit
St Louis +100 vs Milwaukee
Colorado -131 vs Marlins
Arizona +150 vs Dodgers
Yankees
Cubs
Phillies
Dodgers
Red Sox
The lead ESPN announcer demonstrated his ignorance tonight.
After watching the 7 runs that Chris Sale gave up, he observed, "Nobody is going to panic about 3 innings in the opener."
He clearly does not know Boston fans!
Sale's ERA. 21.00.
Grady Little's fault.
Going with 4 road teams today
Colorado
St Louis
Houston
LA Angels
You get a good look at Kikuchi today.
Josh 3/29
Total +$5.96
Kid8 3/29
Total +$149.70
Satuday 3/30 picks
Milwaukee, Cleveland
Sunday 3/31 winners
Cincy
Colorado
Atlanta
Houston
Chi Cubs
Sunday 3/31 winners
Cincy
Colorado
Atlanta
Houston
Chi Cubs
Orioles OWN the Yankees.
4/1 picks
Mets,
Yanks,
Astros,
Red Sox,
Indians
Kid8. 4/1
+76.92
+45.45
+64.52
+58.82
-100
----------
Total. +245.71
Josh. 4/1
-100
-100
-100
-100
+68.97
---------------
Total. -331.13
Kid8. -82.70
Josh. -371.46
Anyone else playing?
4/2 picks
Miami
Minnesota
Seattle
You can let me pick first every day. Doesn't matter.
Most Home Runs Allowed in a Season
AL - 241 homers given up by the 1996 Detroit Tigers
NL - 258 homers given up by the 2016 Cincinnati Reds
4/3 picks
St Louis
Toronto
Colorado
good CFB win
Anytime somebody says something like that my first thought is always "why?".
Anytime somebody says something like that my first thought is always "why?".Little Red Evan hates Philly. Especially because the Mets don't spend money.
good CFB win
No argument here. And good to see Brasier handle the 9th.
But if we spent a few games not getting behind, just scoring first and most, I would not mind at all!
good CFB win
No argument here. And good to see Brasier handle the 9th.
But if we spent a few games not getting behind, just scoring first and most, I would not mind at all!
We got half of that recipe...
4/6 picks
Red Sox
White Sox
Braves
Indians
Astros
Yankees
Dodgers
Braves
Indians
Astros
Yankees
Dodgers
Is this for Sunday?
4/7 picks
Baltimore
Chi Cubs
Colorado
Tampa Bay
Washington
Braves
Indians
Astros
Yankees
Dodgers
Is this for Sunday?
4/7 picks
Baltimore
Chi Cubs
Colorado
Tampa Bay
Braves
Indians
Astros
Yankees
Dodgers
Is this for Sunday?
Assuming it is.
Josh 4/3
+53.19
+72.99
-100
----------
+26.18
Josh 4/4
-100
-100
+45.45
+50
----------
Total -104.55
Overall
+26.18
-104.55
-235.48
-371.46
------------
Total -685.27
Totals
Josh -693.50
Kid8 -254.31
Sunday slate:
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
I will let you keep your own slate if you like.
Braves - 58.82
Indians - 62.50
Astros - 52.63
Yankees - 55.56
Dodgers - 58.82
Kid8 overall
-389.36
Seeking Creative Excuses Department:
https://sports.yahoo.com/red-sox-woes-continue-as-toddlers-eye-poke-sends-key-player-to-injured-list-223033118.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/red-sox-woes-continue-as-toddlers-eye-poke-sends-key-player-to-injured-list-223033118.html)
Seeking Creative Excuses Department:
https://sports.yahoo.com/red-sox-woes-continue-as-toddlers-eye-poke-sends-key-player-to-injured-list-223033118.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/red-sox-woes-continue-as-toddlers-eye-poke-sends-key-player-to-injured-list-223033118.html)
I understand he's been suspended for 4 games, pending an appeal.
4/9
Mets
Indians
Rockies
4/9
Mets
Indians
Rockies
San Diego -100
Houston + 50
Texas - 100
Milwaukee - 100
4/8 picks
Yankees - 100
Oakland - 100
Tampa Bay + 58.83
San Diego +123.00
Josh overall
-693.50
+288.33
-405.17
4/10 picks
Seattle + 64.52
Arizona -100
LA Angels +155
Oakland + 55.56
4/11
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
My picks:
Oakland + 66.67
Seattle + 69.93
If you make edits after a game (Seattle) is played - hit quote rather than modify. Looks more kosher that way.
Nice run.
4/11
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
My picks:
Oakland + 66.67
Seattle + 69.93
I decided I did not want to bet against the Sox tonight.
- 498.26
+136.6
- 361.66
Closest I've been to breakeven since March!
Dodgers - 100
Mets +52.64
Indians -100
Athletics +55.56
Diamondbacks -100
4/11
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
Light slate....
Braves -100
Pirates -100
Orioles -100
Mariners +69.94
Red Sox +54.06
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/12
Washington
Cleveland
Minnesota
Picks for 4/12
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
LA Angels -100
Washington -100
Seattle -100
Chicago WS +185
Tampa + 67.57
4/13 picks
METS
Astros
Red Sox
Cubs
Diamondbacks
4/13 picks
METS
Astros
Red Sox
Cubs
Diamondbacks
New I should have done these last night, as I wasn't going to get home from work before the afternoon games started.
Blue Jays +180
Phillies -100
I'd have taken the White Sox, but oh well. (and would have lost!)
Gonna start tallying at end of weeks.....
Gonna start tallying at end of weeks.....
Is the "end of weeks" after Friday games, after Saturday games, or after Sunday games?
4/14
Detroit -100
Houston + 52.64
LA Dodgers + 71.43
NY Mets -100
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
Dodgers
Padres
Red Sox
Go, O's!
Meanwhile, the NL East is living up to its billing. it will be one of the greatest seasons of all time, if all those teams stay healthy.
Go, O's!
Meanwhile, the NL East is living up to its billing. it will be one of the greatest seasons of all time, if all those teams stay healthy.
Oh, those mighty Orioles, a whopping one game ahead of the incredibly lame Red Sox.
And that amazing NL East gathering has a total of one team with more wins than losses over a team with a winning record.
They need to do better than that to be a great season, let along among the greatest. They were better at this point last year than they are now.
I think the NL East is going to be great this season and save Florida, it appears the teams are all very good and very even-matched. Nothing that's taken place so far has disproven that.
I think the NL East is going to be great this season and save Florida, it appears the teams are all very good and very even-matched. Nothing that's taken place so far has disproven that.
Agreed.
The entire NL is a horserace. Which is cool. Signs are that SD may sign Keuchel. Big park, West coast, one year.
We'll see. Meanwhile, Kimbrell still unsigned. Maybe Boston wants him back, since their record so far is worst than 28 NL teams.
Go, O's!
Meanwhile, the NL East is living up to its billing. it will be one of the greatest seasons of all time, if all those teams stay healthy.
Oh, those mighty Orioles, a whopping one game ahead of the incredibly lame Red Sox.
And that amazing NL East gathering has a total of one team with more wins than losses over a team with a winning record.
They need to do better than that to be a great season, let along among the greatest. They were better at this point last year than they are now.
I think you don't really understand baseball.
Go, O's!
Meanwhile, the NL East is living up to its billing. it will be one of the greatest seasons of all time, if all those teams stay healthy.
Oh, those mighty Orioles, a whopping one game ahead of the incredibly lame Red Sox.
And that amazing NL East gathering has a total of one team with more wins than losses over a team with a winning record.
They need to do better than that to be a great season, let along among the greatest. They were better at this point last year than they are now.
I think you don't really understand baseball.
I don't pretend to understand your idiosyncratic view of it.
But I am unconcerned with your estimating of my understanding of it.
The Red Sox spent all of last year saying how great Leon was with the pitching staff. Can't understand why they chose Swihart over him in the first place.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/16
1-2 for week
Rays
Braves
Twins
Padres
White Sox
The Red Sox spent all of last year saying how great Leon was with the pitching staff. Can't understand why they chose Swihart over him in the first place.
Leon is the better defensive catcher, and game caller, but he was no hit. Swihart made the team for his bat potential, but he was trade bait during ST, with no takers.
While totallly agree that Swihart has been given the time and opportunity to suceed, this early-season DFA seems a little desperate.
Go, O's!
Meanwhile, the NL East is living up to its billing. it will be one of the greatest seasons of all time, if all those teams stay healthy.
Oh, those mighty Orioles, a whopping one game ahead of the incredibly lame Red Sox.
And that amazing NL East gathering has a total of one team with more wins than losses over a team with a winning record.
They need to do better than that to be a great season, let along among the greatest. They were better at this point last year than they are now.
I think you don't really understand baseball.
I don't pretend to understand your idiosyncratic view of it.
But I am unconcerned with your estimating of my understanding of it.
Thanks for confirming the original assessment.
Give you credit for being a real fan, though, being here when the Sox are losing, and operating far below expectations. The rest of the cartel, and its loudest braggart are in hiding still. Kudos to you, Joshie.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/16
1-2 for week
Rays
Braves
Twins
Padres
White Sox
Pirates + 97.09
Astros + 64.52
Rangers + 85.47
Blue Jays +140.00
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/16
1-2 for week
Rays
Braves
Twins
Padres
White Sox
Pirates + 97.09
Astros
Rangers
Blue Jays
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/16
1-2 for week
Rays
Braves
Twins
Padres
White Sox
Pirates + 97.09
Astros
Rangers
Blue Jays
Again - not a good look here with the 9:54 edit.
2-3
3-5 week
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/17
Minnesota
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
Chi (A)
2-3
3-5 week
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/17
Minnesota
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
Chi (A)
Miami -100
Arizona +155
Toronto -100
Baltimore -100
Alex Cora's approval rating in Beanville has drop 20% since opening day.
Heh
4/18
Yankees -100
Rays -100
Twins -100
0-1
5-8
Lets see what the system has today
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
St Louis
Pittsburgh
Chicago (N)
Tampa Bay
. Comparing a first year manager and fans' disenchantment with a guy who just won you a World Series and his "fans" rejection is pretty weak, Joshie.Alex Cora's approval rating in Beanville has drop 20% since opening day.
Heh
Fortunately, he is not up for reelection anytime soon. Plenty of opportunity to improve it. I remember what happened to Kapler's in Philly at the start of last year.
0-1
5-8
Lets see what the system has today
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
St Louis
Pittsburgh
Chicago (N)
Tampa Bay
Red Sox + 90.91
Rangers -100.00
Nationals -100.00
If it wasn't for me, you'd still be in hiding, loser.
Sales a mystery.
I think there is likely some ailment preventing him from being Sale (missing power and command) and fatigue from last year is probably the most benign explanation.
2-2
7-10 for week
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
Rays
Pirates
Cubs
2-2
7-10 for week
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
Rays
Pirates
Cubs
Arizona +122
Philadelphia + 71.43
San Diego -100
Toronto +135
Seattle +109
Wham, bam thank you Pham.
Bets for 4/21
Boston +100
Toronto +138
Seattle -100
Philadelphia -100
May change before gametime.
Productive week-end at the Trop.
Productive week-end at the Trop.
It was quite the turn-around compared to what we've been seeing since the start of the year. No promises that it will keep going, but far more positive a look, despite the relief adventures.
System says take Red Sox, Pirates and Astros.
9-13 week using system
Backing off it for this week
Monday 4/22
Royals
Angels
Astros
Rangers
Bank's right - cant just pick faves.
9-13 week using system
Backing off it for this week
Monday 4/22
Royals
Angels
Astros
Rangers
Bank's right - cant just pick faves.
betting money line favorites is stacked against the average bettor, and the payouts reflect the public's tendency to bet favorites
to break even you need to be right about 55-60% of the time.
You anywhere near 60%?
My analysis says you "can" win $ by betting value heavy underdogs, but you need to play a porfolio of them and be willing to bankroll the losers.
Seems it has to be closer to 66% if you are betting solely faves, especially if a portion of them are BIG faves.
This is my first time working with baseball betting models. Seeing what works and doesnt. In real world of course parlays and betting with runs comes into play.
Predictions for 4/22:
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
Pirates
Brewers
Nationals
Rangers
9-13 week using system
Backing off it for this week
Monday 4/22
Royals
Angels
Astros
Rangers
Bank's right - cant just pick faves.
System - 0-2
Me - 0-4
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/23
System picks Red Sox Game 1 - and if they win - again in Game 2.
Also - Cubs, Rockies, Indians
My picks are -
Mets, Brewers, Atlanta, Oakland, Minnesota
System - 0-2
Me - 0-4
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
4/23
System picks Red Sox Game 1 - and if they win - again in Game 2.
Also - Cubs, Rockies, Indians
My picks are -
Mets, Brewers, Atlanta, Oakland, Minnesota
The system is silly if it doesn't consider pitchers.
But I would pick the Rockies, too.
Rockies -100
Dodgers -100
Rays + 54.06
Astros + 66.67
Rangers -100
Josh - do as you wish, but I can handle my own business, thanks. I am sure yiou will note when I miss a comma.
System picks
Rockies, Cubs, Blue Jays
My picks
White Sox, Yankees, Phillies, Blue Jays, Nationals
Don't lie.If it wasn't for me, you'd still be in hiding, loser.
hiding? heh
I've been here (etal) with all too great a frequency and consistency for over 20 years
good games games bad games good years bad years.
you're the punk who runs away and hides when it gets too hot in the kitchen.
troll you assign a value to your stalking?
you're a socio-path stalker asshole with nothing of value to add.
You try to suck the joy from sport, but instead you just suck.
Don't lie.If it wasn't for me, you'd still be in hiding, loser.
hiding? heh
I've been here (etal) with all too great a frequency and consistency for over 20 years
good games games bad games good years bad years.
you're the punk who runs away and hides when it gets too hot in the kitchen.
troll you assign a value to your stalking?
you're a socio-path stalker asshole with nothing of value to add.
You try to suck the joy from sport, but instead you just suck.
Wait. That's all you ever do.
Heh
System picks
Rockies, Cubs, Blue Jays
My picks
White Sox, Yankees, Phillies, Blue Jays, Nationals
My picks for 4/24
Mets -100
Red Sox + 45.46Indians
Cubs +106
Tweet of the day
https://twitter.com/VladGuerrero27/status/1121210485934821377
Not sure the Mets care - though many of our dumbass fans surely do.
System gets a winning day
2-1, 3-6
Me - 2-3, 4-10
4/25
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
System picks Cubs
My picks -
Seattle
Houston
Boston
Add - Yankees
Miami
System gets a winning day
2-1, 3-6
Me - 2-3, 4-10
4/25
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
System picks Cubs
My picks -
Seattle
Houston
Boston
Add - Yankees
Miami
Josh's picks for 4/5
Seattle.+ 71.43
Detroit -100
Philly -100
Cinci + 74.08
3-2 last night - including a nice hit on underdog Marlins
7-12 overall
4/26
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
SYSTEM (3-7) has
Kansas City
St Louis
LA Dodgers
Arizona
My picks
St Louis
Toronto
Texas
Chi W Sox
Minnesota
3-2 last night - including a nice hit on underdog Marlins
7-12 overall
4/26
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
SYSTEM (3-7) has
Kansas City
St Louis
LA Dodgers
Arizona
My picks
St Louis
Toronto
Texas
Chi W Sox
Minnesota
Pittsburgh -100
Oakland -100Boston
Texas
San Francisco
My picks
Nationals
Mets
Rockies
Red Sox
Rangers
My picks
Nationals
Mets
Rockies
Red Sox
Rangers
Dodgers + 45.46
Diamondbacks -100
Brewers +125
Angels -100
Mariners -100
4/28
System
Toronto
Minnesota
St Louis
Dodgers
Arizona
My picks
KC
Minnesota
Tampa
Giants
Cleveland
Picks for 4/28
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
Cardinals + 71.43
Dodgers + 54.06
Twins + 47.62
Red Sox -100
Yankees + 79.37
Josh
Are you maintaining a historical data of your picks by 1) H/A 2) Fav/Dog or by specific teams and how they do both straight win losses and against the ML?
For example home dogs (you've bet) have won (for example 45%) and returned XX% of money wagered?
Cody Bellinger on a pace to hit 84 home runs this season. Check his bat.
Josh
Are you maintaining a historical data of your picks by 1) H/A 2) Fav/Dog or by specific teams and how they do both straight win losses and against the ML?
For example home dogs (you've bet) have won (for example 45%) and returned XX% of money wagered?
"Maintaining" is probably too strong a term. The information is there, if I decide to crunch it. I am not doing anything about runs, however. Mostly, I am not that interested. If I ever decide I want to consider playing for real instead of this hypothetical crap, then I would actually track all of that.
As it is, a part of me thinks that for this we ought to be staked to a certain amount of money and then for each day determine how much we wanted to put on which games, tracking our totals that way - and when we go through our funds we go through our funds.
But I am not going to do that alone.
My picks
Milwaukee
Mets
Sobering stat for RSN. Of all teams in MLB history to have played .400 baseball in April, only 8 have made the playoffs.
. Tom Verducci said it on MLB TV, last night. But he elaborated. Besides the difficulty of making such a comeback, the Sox have to do it in a division with the Rays and the Yanks, each 90+ projected win teams. Makes for a very bumpy ride ahead.Sobering stat for RSN. Of all teams in MLB history to have played .400 baseball in April, only 8 have made the playoffs.
No explanation for your last stat, huh?
And yes, though that it is as high as 8 is heartening!
SYSTEM 4/30
White Sox
Twins
Red Sox
Rangers
ME
Padres
Dodgers
Mariners
+114.87SYSTEM 4/30
White Sox
Twins
Red Sox
Rangers
ME
Padres
Dodgers
Mariners
Twins -100Rays
Dodgers + 68.97
Cubs + 76.93
Diamondacks + 68.97
5/1
SYSTEM picks
Twins
White Sox
Red Sox
Diamondbacks
Rangers
ME
Giants
Blue Jays
Phillies
Rays
5/1
SYSTEM picks
Twins
White Sox
Red Sox
Diamondbacks
Rangers
ME
Giants
Blue Jays
Phillies
Rays
Josh's
Cards +130
Dodgers -100
Twins +132
White Sox -100
Indians -100
Yeah..........didnt specify on Rays so eliminating that pick.
And had they won?
I am not taking a loss for a game where I would not have been credited with the W.
. Tom Verducci said it on MLB TV, last night. But he elaborated. Besides the difficulty of making such a comeback, the Sox have to do it in a division with the Rays and the Yanks, each 90+ projected win teams. Makes for a very bumpy ride ahead.Sobering stat for RSN. Of all teams in MLB history to have played .400 baseball in April, only 8 have made the playoffs.
No explanation for your last stat, huh?
And yes, though that it is as high as 8 is heartening!
THats the point. You DO have an idea - since I just told you. But had TB won the Stanek game you would have not credited this.
Small potatoes......
THats the point. You DO have an idea - since I just told you.
Just for fun
Angels
Red Sox
Rays
- not to be included in tally - just to see if we can run a clean slate.
Just for fun
Angels
Red Sox
Rays
- not to be included in tally - just to see if we can run a clean slate.
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/04/28/report-cubs-privately-threatening-writers-who-criticize-addison-russell/ (https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/04/28/report-cubs-privately-threatening-writers-who-criticize-addison-russell/)
https://youtu.be/3qQ17UnJk_Y (https://youtu.be/3qQ17UnJk_Y)
Not good.
Red Sox newest version of Grady Little: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/05/02/endgame-reeling-red-sox-ban-fortnite-clubhouse/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/05/02/endgame-reeling-red-sox-ban-fortnite-clubhouse/)
Weak.
Just for fun
Angels
Red Sox
Rays
- not to be included in tally - just to see if we can run a clean slate.
You should stop picking the Red Sox.
Didnt realize Rays game had already started, so won't include that one. Looking for 7-0.
Maybe you can go in his place.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-manager-alex-cora-will-not-make-white-house-visit-cites-trump-administrations-handling-of-hurricane-maria/
Fuck him.
My picks 5/6
Washington
St Louis
San Diego
Arizona
Baltimore
Its all over now in the NL
Mets land Wilmer Font from Rays.
My picks 5/6
Washington - 100
St Louis + 80
San Diego +105
Arizona - 100
Baltimore +150
+135
Yankees + 73
Royals -100
Twins +105
Braves -100
Using that estimate if Sox went 102-60 you'd win about 1200.
heh
My model -
39 wins = X
3300-X=net loss
Havent done the math yet. But if the average win was $75 then the loss is about 400 bucks.
Trending up, of course.
5/3
My picks
Braves + 63.30
Yankees + 66.67
Indians + 71.43
Pirates -100
Rangers -100
ME
Mets + 55.56
Padres +137.00
Nationals + 66.67
Twins + 89.29
Rockies +110.00
5/1
ME
Giants +120
Blue Jays - 100
Phillies + 41.67
Rays - 100
ME
Padres + 98.04
Dodgers + 68.97
Mariners -100.00
My picks
Milwaukee + 92.60
Mets -100.00
Well, no - I haven't lost anything.
I save that for the occasional poker event.
Well, no - I haven't lost anything.
I save that for the occasional poker event.
You set up a game where you set the parameters around winning $ (real or imaginery) and the unit you chose was $100 a game.
Initially you provided an accounting and the early results had you losing about $1500.
You stopped providing your cash results, and then changed your reporting to "system" bets and "your" bets, and after a couple of weeks as I recall, your results were just as poor. But that was just a guess.
Now you claim you are winning, but when pressed admit you've lost an additional $400 in a true accounting.
I'm glad you're not betting, but just having fun, as a $4,000 loss so early in the season can't be that much fun to someone who needs to pretend to strangers that they are winning.
and kid you did lose something.
What little credibility you thought you had..
You couldn't even play your own game without changing the rules.
Well, no - I haven't lost anything.
I save that for the occasional poker event.
You set up a game where you set the parameters around winning $ (real or imaginery) and the unit you chose was $100 a game.
Initially you provided an accounting and the early results had you losing about $1500.
You stopped providing your cash results, and then changed your reporting to "system" bets and "your" bets, and after a couple of weeks as I recall, your results were just as poor. But that was just a guess.
Now you claim you are winning, but when pressed admit you've lost an additional $400 in a true accounting.
I'm glad you're not betting, but just having fun, as a $4,000 loss so early in the season can't be that much fun to someone who needs to pretend to strangers that they are winning.
and kid you did lose something.
What little credibility you thought you had..
You couldn't even play your own game without changing the rules.
I'm pretty sure he is well under $4000 in losses. He's had a pretty good run recently, as you can see above.
Well, no - I haven't lost anything.
I save that for the occasional poker event.
You set up a game where you set the parameters around winning $ (real or imaginery) and the unit you chose was $100 a game.
Initially you provided an accounting and the early results had you losing about $1500.
You stopped providing your cash results, and then changed your reporting to "system" bets and "your" bets, and after a couple of weeks as I recall, your results were just as poor. But that was just a guess.
Now you claim you are winning, but when pressed admit you've lost an additional $400 in a true accounting.
I'm glad you're not betting, but just having fun, as a $4,000 loss so early in the season can't be that much fun to someone who needs to pretend to strangers that they are winning.
and kid you did lose something.
What little credibility you thought you had..
You couldn't even play your own game without changing the rules.
I'm pretty sure he is well under $4000 in losses. He's had a pretty good run recently, as you can see above.
Well, no - I haven't lost anything.
I save that for the occasional poker event.
You set up a game where you set the parameters around winning $ (real or imaginery) and the unit you chose was $100 a game.
Initially you provided an accounting and the early results had you losing about $1500.
You stopped providing your cash results, and then changed your reporting to "system" bets and "your" bets, and after a couple of weeks as I recall, your results were just as poor. But that was just a guess.
Now you claim you are winning, but when pressed admit you've lost an additional $400 in a true accounting.
I'm glad you're not betting, but just having fun, as a $4,000 loss so early in the season can't be that much fun to someone who needs to pretend to strangers that they are winning.
and kid you did lose something.
What little credibility you thought you had..
You couldn't even play your own game without changing the rules.
I'm pretty sure he is well under $4000 in losses. He's had a pretty good run recently, as you can see above.
Thanks
Long season
You may recall I was about a +40 in games won in NBA when I stopped that exercise.
Well, no - I haven't lost anything.
I save that for the occasional poker event.
You set up a game where you set the parameters around winning $ (real or imaginery) and the unit you chose was $100 a game.
Initially you provided an accounting and the early results had you losing about $1500.
You stopped providing your cash results, and then changed your reporting to "system" bets and "your" bets, and after a couple of weeks as I recall, your results were just as poor. But that was just a guess.
Now you claim you are winning, but when pressed admit you've lost an additional $400 in a true accounting.
I'm glad you're not betting, but just having fun, as a $4,000 loss so early in the season can't be that much fun to someone who needs to pretend to strangers that they are winning.
and kid you did lose something.
What little credibility you thought you had..
You couldn't even play your own game without changing the rules.
I'm pretty sure he is well under $4000 in losses. He's had a pretty good run recently, as you can see above.
Kid had 2-week stretch after his initial report of a $1500 loss, that mirrored his $1500 loss run. And he said he lost around $400 in his recent 39-33 "winning" period (which I think included his recent "good run"
But as I don't track his bets, I've no idea.
So iI ballparked the cumulative loss at $4,000 to account for kid understating bad results.
The 39-33 SYSTEM (now up to 43-34) is separate from "my picks". Bank's feeble old brain cant seem to track this.
As far as early efforts in any season, they SHOULD be expected to improve - and have been on MY side. Also - Josh can attest - early season was weird this year - as many aces started slowly and FAVE bettors suffered duly. Leveling out now.
I think you mean shouldnt....
My picks 5/7
Nationals -100
Phillies + 86.96
Cubs + 60.61
Braves -100
Jays -100
4/28
My picks
KC -100
Minnesota + 47.62
Tampa +120
Giants -100
Cleveland -100
My picks
Nationals -100
Mets -100
Rockies +100
Red Sox -100
Rangers + 91.75
4/26
My picks
St Louis -100
Toronto + 80
Texas -100
Chi W Sox + 75.19
Minnesota + 52.64
4/25
My picks -
Seattle +71.43
Houston -100
Boston + 43.48
Add - Yankees -100
Miami +175
My picks
White Sox, Yankees, Phillies, Blue Jays, Nationals
-100 +87.72 +74.63 -100 -100
4/23
My picks are -
Mets, Brewers, Atlanta, Oakland, Minnesota
+78.13 -100 -100 +68.97 -100
9-13 week using system
Backing off it for this week
Monday 4/22
Royals -100
Angels -100
Astros -100
Rangers -100
Bank's right - cant just pick faves.
Pirates -100
Cubs + 92.60
Rays -100
Pirates + 76.93
Cubs -100
St Louis +105
Pittsburgh - 100
Chicago (N) + 61.35
Tampa Bay - 100
4/18
Tampa Bay -100
4/17
Minnesota + 62.50
Atlanta -100
Tampa Bay + 40
Chi (A) -100
4/16
Rays + 40.00
Braves - 100
Twins - 100
Padres - 100
White Sox + 86.96
Dodgers + 54.06
Padres - 100
Red Sox - 100
-389 to start week
-1600 lost bets
wins
+59 (TB Monday)
+74 (Indians Tuesday)
+109 (Mets, A's) Wed
+124 (Mariners, Red Sox Thu)
- Fri
+53 (Astros Sat)
+162 (Phils, Red Sox, Astros Sun)
+581
------------------
-1408
I need to invest in MLB TV. Without it, I'm treated every night to either the Orioles and the Nationals announcers complaining about how bad their injuries are.
My picks 5/8
Padres +80
Rockies rain
Tigers +88.50
Rays -100
My picks 5/7
Nationals -100
Phillies +86.97
Cubs +60.62
Braves -100
Jays -100
My picks 5/6
Washington -100
St Louis +80
San Diego +105
Arizona -100
Baltimore +150
My picks 5/9
Pittsburgh -100
Cincinnati +157
Washington +140
Colorado +60.61
5/10
www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/scoreboard/
JBJ saves it with his glove
10D wins it with his bat.
hello .500
JBJ saves it with his glove
10D wins it with his bat.
hello .500
and hello 1-game over.
Erod with another pretty decent start and the bats were alive
Lots of people think that competition still creates valuable and the best form of entertainment. Guess you aren't one of them.
Negabostonadouche.
I think the problem here is that you are shifting the definition of "best" to whatever suits your argument at the moment. Normally, you mean the one that fields the strongest teams (more than one) - that could be expected to have the best record vs. other divisions.
But since that doesn't fit the NL East, you are choosing instead that competitiveness within the division is what you mean by "best." Good luck selling that definition outside of your own head.
You fail to recognize that 4 teams in that Division are projected to win 85 or more games. There is no other division rated as such. Therefore, it's the best.
That you can't handle that situation indicates your own weakmindedness, Professor Dimwit.
5/10. My picks
Mets +57.14
Indians -100
Phillies -100
5/10. My picks
Mets +57.14
Indians -100
Phillies -100
- 142.86
For week about +173.
My picks 5/7
Nationals -100
Phillies +86.97
Cubs +60.62
Braves -100
Jays -100
Phillies divides to 0.869565217, which rounds to 86.96, not 86.97.
Cubs divides to 0.606060606, which rounds to 60.61, not 60.62.
I understand this is all play money, Kiiid, but I don't get why you are bothering to screw around.
Or perhaps you just don't care to be precise.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
5/12
Happy Mums Day
System picks
Red Sox w
Twins l
Astros w
Cubs w
Mets rain
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
5/13
System picks
Yankees rain
Phillies w 68.97
My picks
Phillies +68.97
Tigers -100
Twins -100
White Sox +145
Mariners +86.97
Great CFBW last night for the Phightin' Phils to start off a most challenging stretch of their season playing 4 against Brewers at home. Later this week, they have 3 vs Rockies, then on the road for 3 vs Cubs, 3 in Milwaukee; then home for 3 against St.Lo, and following that with a 6 game West Coast road trip to LA and SD. And all of that in the league where they still play real baseball.
If they win 11 of those 22, they'll be okay. If they win +11, they'll be a team to reckon with all season long.
Play ball, boys!
My picks 5/14
Mets +69.93
Phillies -100
Marlins -100
Padres -100
Twins +78.74
http://www.vegasinsider.com/mlb/odds/las-vegas/
System picks 5/14
Yankees rain
Red Sox l
Kansas City w +70.42
San Francisco l
Phillies l
Dodgers w +63.69
Atlanta l
ahhh....bloody hell, Cubbies...
glass half full game for Sox
tough loss in 11
Sale looked like good Sale through 7
glass half full game for Sox
tough loss in 11
Sale looked like good Sale through 7
And a good win the next night.
ahhh....bloody hell, Cubbies...
Why blame them versus the other two losing teams?
System picks 5/15
Yankees - w
Yankees 2 - w
Red Sox - w
Kansas City - l
San Francisco - w
Dodgers - w
Atlanta - w
My picks 5/15
Pirates -100
Cubs -100
Braves +76.34
Orioles (Cashner vs German game) -100
Rays +55.56
My picks 5/15
Pirates -100
Cubs -100
Braves +76.34
Orioles (Cashner vs German game) -100
Rays +55.56
System picks 5/16
Indians
White Sox
Braves
My picks 5/16
Mets
Royals
Twins
System picks 5/16
Indians w
White Sox w
Braves w
My picks 5/16
Mets l
Royals l
Twins w -107
-451.95 total for week. About matching last 2 weeks earnings
Day off for me
System picks 5/19 (3-3 yesterday)
Yankees
White Sox
Indians
Angels
Braves
Rangers
17-11
81-52
-451.95 total for week. About matching last 2 weeks earnings
:'I go out of town for three days? Three losses.
Your staying off the internet would be a win for humanity.:'I go out of town for three days? Three losses.
I stay home for three days? Three wins.
And now for 3-more against the Astros.
should be a challenging week-end.
I assume the Ys wil be playing the Os for the forseeable future.
And now for 3-more against the Astros.
should be a challenging week-end.
I assume the Ys wil be playing the Os for the forseeable future.
Catching the ball has suddenly become challenging.
that was an annoying game
The Sox are playing just bad enough to lose.
Just can't put it together.
sad new.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia)
RIP Bill Buckner
sad new.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia)
RIP Bill Buckner
Like you and any other Beaneater really care.
That anyone had to "make up with" Buckner is the sad part.I agree with this.
Yeah, it is not like he's Jose "Useless Pile of Horse.Excrement" Mesa, or something.That anyone had to "make up with" Buckner is the sad part.I agree with this.
Sure. Then why'd he have to move out of Boston? It's only because of Steinner sports and the Mookie and Buckner tour, and only after the Sox finally won the WS, again that he was "forgiven by most Boston fans".
Compare that to the equally egregious mistakes made by Garry Maddox in Philly.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1978/10/08/maddox-error-hurts-phils-in-10th-4-3/7a914b24-d8ed-410f-bbd6-5298e2022d48/?utm_term=.fc091636dcf6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1978/10/08/maddox-error-hurts-phils-in-10th-4-3/7a914b24-d8ed-410f-bbd6-5298e2022d48/?utm_term=.fc091636dcf6)
Maddox never went thru what Buckner had to endure. Never.
Troll gonna troll.
Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Billy did choke. This is not to be debated. The issue is how he was initially treated.
Like BARTMAN, I'd say.
Sad.
Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Billy did choke. This is not to be debated. The issue is how he was initially treated.
Like BARTMAN, I'd say.
Sad.
He had to move his family from Boston. Very sad.
Even Ralph Branca didn't have to leave NY.
But we are getting the soft peddling of the abuse he suffered from the usual source of all lies here.
An ugly game in the Fens.
An ugly game in the Fens.
that 9th was brutal
Says the fan from the city that pelted Santa Claus with snowballs.Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Billy did choke. This is not to be debated. The issue is how he was initially treated.
Like BARTMAN, I'd say.
Sad.
He had to move his family from Boston. Very sad.
Even Ralph Branca didn't have to leave NY.
But we are getting the soft peddling of the abuse he suffered from the usual source of all lies here.
Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Billy did choke. This is not to be debated. The issue is how he was initially treated.
Like BARTMAN, I'd say.
Sad.
He had to move his family from Boston. Very sad.
Even Ralph Branca didn't have to leave NY.
But we are getting the soft peddling of the abuse he suffered from the usual source of all lies here.
Says the idiot whose small-town, small-time, and miniature-minded fans caused their team to forfeit after rioting on ten cent beer night. AND later, did THIS:Says the fan from the city that pelted Santa Claus with snowballs.Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Billy did choke. This is not to be debated. The issue is how he was initially treated.
Like BARTMAN, I'd say.
Sad.
He had to move his family from Boston. Very sad.
Even Ralph Branca didn't have to leave NY.
But we are getting the soft peddling of the abuse he suffered from the usual source of all lies here.
Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Billy did choke. This is not to be debated. The issue is how he was initially treated.
Like BARTMAN, I'd say.
Sad.
He had to move his family from Boston. Very sad.
Even Ralph Branca didn't have to leave NY.
But we are getting the soft peddling of the abuse he suffered from the usual source of all lies here.
Not sure why he feels he has to defend all his Boston brethren.
poor sad pathetic troll is so obssessed he turns an RIP condolence into food for his disease.Nooe. Just called you out for lying. It's what you do. Among other misdeeds.
Those were Rangers.fans.Says the idiot whose small-town, small-time, and miniature-minded fans caused their team to forfeit after rioting on ten cent beer night.Says the fan from the city that pelted Santa Claus with snowballs.Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Billy did choke. This is not to be debated. The issue is how he was initially treated.
Like BARTMAN, I'd say.
Sad.
He had to move his family from Boston. Very sad.
Even Ralph Branca didn't have to leave NY.
But we are getting the soft peddling of the abuse he suffered from the usual source of all lies here.
Those were Rangers.fans.Says the idiot whose small-town, small-time, and miniature-minded fans caused their team to forfeit after rioting on ten cent beer night.Says the fan from the city that pelted Santa Claus with snowballs.Troll gonna troll.
True, but I happen to agree with him about Buckner's treatment. It's just less uncommon than he would have us believe.
Most people think Buckner was unfairly scape-goated.
But the troll looks for any excuse to exercise his sick obssession.
In this case he is using and abusing Buckner to satisfy his disease.
The troll's pathetic.
Billy did choke. This is not to be debated. The issue is how he was initially treated.
Like BARTMAN, I'd say.
Sad.
He had to move his family from Boston. Very sad.
Even Ralph Branca didn't have to leave NY.
But we are getting the soft peddling of the abuse he suffered from the usual source of all lies here.
We could talk about Dick Allen if you want. But this is the point: Some fans of every team are ignorant assholes. Sometimes, for every team, en masse. Which is why it makes no fucking sense at all to seriously criticize one team's set of fans for behaving the same way your team's fans do.
It's not like they made an entire Oscar nominated movie about what psychopathic assholes Philadelphia fans are, or anything.
Dick Allen has a smoke bomb for you.
JD's got as nice resume to go with the killer name. I could see him as their closer in time.
JD's got as nice resume to go with the killer name. I could see him as their closer in time.
Cora = Farrell
:You might say he is more media friendly.
You didn't like Farrell then? Why not?
Great CFBW last night for the Phightin' Phils to start off a most challenging stretch of their season playing 4 against Brewers at home. Later this week, they have 3 vs Rockies, then on the road for 3 vs Cubs, 3 in Milwaukee; then home for 3 against St.Lo, and following that with a 6 game West Coast road trip to LA and SD. And all of that in the league where they still play real baseball.
If they win 11 of those 22, they'll be okay. If they win +11, they'll be a team to reckon with all season long.
Play ball, boys!
Bottles strikes me as an excellent nickname.My bad. It is "Barrels".
Afternoon games are fun.
Afternoon games one's team wins are more fun.
Now if we could just convince MLB to institute one old-fashioned doubleheader per team per season.
Afternoon games are fun.
Afternoon games one's team wins are more fun.
Now if we could just convince MLB to institute one old-fashioned doubleheader per team per season.
lets go for maximum fun today and hope the home team wins the afternoon game.
and it lets the boys from Tampa see trhe sun when they play, a rare occurence for those guys.
and we got a double-header too.
its not the old-fashioned kind, but...
lets hope for tons of fun.
What the fuck are you talking about?
David Ortiz was apparently shot during an attempted robbery in the Dominican Republic. Report from his father says he was taken to the hospital, but have no status.Shot in back, bullet passed thru stomach. Very serious. In surgery.
David Ortiz was apparently shot during an attempted robbery in the Dominican Republic. Report from his father says he was taken to the hospital, but have no status.Shot in back, bullet passed thru stomach. Very serious. In surgery.
Stable.
Conscious and speaking.
11:15 pm
don't start
Per USAToday: David Ortiz is expected to be flown from the Dominican Republic to Boston on Monday afternoon for further treatment of a gunshot wound, and answered yes and no questions from family members, according to one of his associates.
Leo Lopez, Ortiz's assistant, told USA TODAY Sports that Ortiz's family is hopeful he will be on his way to Boston by 4 p.m. ET on Monday, via a plane sent by the Red Sox. Lopez said doctors were examining Ortiz early Monday afternoon to determine whether his condition was sufficiently stable to travel.
"Just yes or no. Not a lot of words, but he can talk," Lopez said of Ortiz.
Ortiz was shot in the "lower back/abdominal region" at a bar in the Dominican Republic on Sunday night and underwent surgery at a local hospital.
"The bullet went through his stomach," Felix Durán Mejia, a spokesperson for the Dominican National Police told CNN.
The Red Sox said in a statement that they "offered David's family all available resources to aid his recovery." He is expected to receive further treatment at Massachusetts General Hospital.
Do they deal with a lot of gunshot wounds at Mass Gen? One would think they'd want to bring him to a place where they are used to doing so, like Stroger Hospital in Chicago.
Per USAToday: David Ortiz is expected to be flown from the Dominican Republic to Boston on Monday afternoon for further treatment of a gunshot wound, and answered yes and no questions from family members, according to one of his associates.
Leo Lopez, Ortiz's assistant, told USA TODAY Sports that Ortiz's family is hopeful he will be on his way to Boston by 4 p.m. ET on Monday, via a plane sent by the Red Sox. Lopez said doctors were examining Ortiz early Monday afternoon to determine whether his condition was sufficiently stable to travel.
"Just yes or no. Not a lot of words, but he can talk," Lopez said of Ortiz.
Ortiz was shot in the "lower back/abdominal region" at a bar in the Dominican Republic on Sunday night and underwent surgery at a local hospital.
"The bullet went through his stomach," Felix Durán Mejia, a spokesperson for the Dominican National Police told CNN.
The Red Sox said in a statement that they "offered David's family all available resources to aid his recovery." He is expected to receive further treatment at Massachusetts General Hospital.
Do they deal with a lot of gunshot wounds at Mass Gen? One would think they'd want to bring him to a place where they are used to doing so, like Stroger Hospital in Chicago.
A rare backhanded compliment to Boston.
As for where to take him, why not choose some place in the "top" 25 for murder rates in the US instead of Chicago?
Per USAToday: David Ortiz is expected to be flown from the Dominican Republic to Boston on Monday afternoon for further treatment of a gunshot wound, and answered yes and no questions from family members, according to one of his associates.
Leo Lopez, Ortiz's assistant, told USA TODAY Sports that Ortiz's family is hopeful he will be on his way to Boston by 4 p.m. ET on Monday, via a plane sent by the Red Sox. Lopez said doctors were examining Ortiz early Monday afternoon to determine whether his condition was sufficiently stable to travel.
"Just yes or no. Not a lot of words, but he can talk," Lopez said of Ortiz.
Ortiz was shot in the "lower back/abdominal region" at a bar in the Dominican Republic on Sunday night and underwent surgery at a local hospital.
"The bullet went through his stomach," Felix Durán Mejia, a spokesperson for the Dominican National Police told CNN.
The Red Sox said in a statement that they "offered David's family all available resources to aid his recovery." He is expected to receive further treatment at Massachusetts General Hospital.
Do they deal with a lot of gunshot wounds at Mass Gen? One would think they'd want to bring him to a place where they are used to doing so, like Stroger Hospital in Chicago.
A rare backhanded compliment to Boston.
As for where to take him, why not choose some place in the "top" 25 for murder rates in the US instead of Chicago?
Maybe you should look up Stroger Hospital.
Instead of tapping into your usual knee-jerk BS.
I'll be there this weekend for a graduation and to see the Yankees vs. White Sox on Dad's Day.
I think he will be in there for quite some time. Not just a routine folluwup.
I think he will be in there for quite some time. Not just a routine folluwup.
Given my experience with abdominal surgery and associated nastiness, even given advances in surgical techniques, medicine etc, the body and organs need to recover and regain functionality. IIRC it took me about 2+ weeks of hospital time to be strong enough to get released. Then about 6 weeks to get over most of the effects of surgery.
I think he will be in there for quite some time. Not just a routine folluwup.
Given my experience with abdominal surgery and associated nastiness, even given advances in surgical techniques, medicine etc, the body and organs need to recover and regain functionality. IIRC it took me about 2+ weeks of hospital time to be strong enough to get released. Then about 6 weeks to get over most of the effects of surgery.
So, he's pretty much done for the rest of the season, but might make it back into shape for the playoffs?
As do I. I would move there if offered a job.I hated living there, though I always loved visiting it.
I'll be there this weekend for a graduation and to see the Yankees vs. White Sox on Dad's Day.
Entertainingly, "David Ortiz shooting suspect says baseball legend was not his intended target."
So much for your ongoing bullshit, Piggy.
Do, you want your team to have a head start? Amazing!
Josh -
Any idea why I can post from my kindle but am banned for life from my cell phone?
Yesterday. Sprint.Josh -
Any idea why I can post from my kindle but am banned for life from my cell phone?
Sure.
Any idea the last time you managed to post from your cell phone? Who's your carrier?
Yesterday. Sprint.Josh -
Any idea why I can post from my kindle but am banned for life from my cell phone?
Sure.
Any idea the last time you managed to post from your cell phone? Who's your carrier?
Now I am fucked on all platforms.
Poster formerly known as.Now I am fucked on all platforms.
boz is that you?
its looks like you but you put on a few letters.
Poster formerly known as.Now I am fucked on all platforms.
boz is that you?
its looks like you but you put on a few letters.
Now I have to do captcha every time I want to post, and answer a question. Note to self: The answer to the question "what rhymes with wham and is why I have to answer this question" is not "Rectal Exam".
Keeps.telling me I have timed out.Poster formerly known as.Now I am fucked on all platforms.
boz is that you?
its looks like you but you put on a few letters.
Now I have to do captcha every time I want to post, and answer a question. Note to self: The answer to the question "what rhymes with wham and is why I have to answer this question" is not "Rectal Exam".
Should be fixed, except for what to do about the perpetual spammers at the same IPs.
Keeps.telling me I have timed out.Poster formerly known as.Now I am fucked on all platforms.
boz is that you?
its looks like you but you put on a few letters.
Now I have to do captcha every time I want to post, and answer a question. Note to self: The answer to the question "what rhymes with wham and is why I have to answer this question" is not "Rectal Exam".
Should be fixed, except for what to do about the perpetual spammers at the same IPs.
I had the same problem just now. Kept saying I was a guest and kicking back my log in attempts until I clicked on my full log in info and logged in.Unfortunately it keeeps rejecting my password and.i have long since abandoned whatever email i registered from. So I set up a third login to see if that would at least end the captcha issue. No such luck.
73 pitches
He took himself out?
Just had to login again. What in the wide wide world of sports is going on
Just had to login again. What in the wide wide world of sports is going on
Update on the hit on Ortiz, a position first taken here by me, and quickly denied by the RSN, who will never admit they were wrong:Kid and Ham both!
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/suspected-money-man-named-attempted-hit-red-sox-193900179--abc-news-topstories.html (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/suspected-money-man-named-attempted-hit-red-sox-193900179--abc-news-topstories.html)
Big Papi got sloppy, so they decided to pop he.
I know things, people. I have better sources than you. Wake up.
Just had to login again. What in the wide wide world of sports is going on
kind of slim pickens, down to mostly baseball for the next couple of months.
Just had to login again. What in the wide wide world of sports is going on
kind of slim pickens, down to mostly baseball for the next couple of months.
No Womens's World Cup for you?
My kid played travel/HS soccer with a very talented kid who was a pretty good Div 1 goalie, and who has logged time with the Irish U-17 (?) Last I heard she was on the US U-23 team.
I remember watching this kid as a 5 year old playing rec soccer and her instincts for the game were astounding. The kid at 5 was a great athlete
My kid played travel/HS soccer with a very talented kid who was a pretty good Div 1 goalie, and who has logged time with the Irish U-17 (?) Last I heard she was on the US U-23 team.
I remember watching this kid as a 5 year old playing rec soccer and her instincts for the game were astounding. The kid at 5 was a great athlete
Yeah, she's alright. Takes a certain type.
https://www.mlb.com/news/rays-tampa-bay-montreal-split-season
What do you folks think of the idea of a split season between Tampa and Montreal?
The stated goals of such a move would be to keep baseball in Tampa, while improving the team's revenue.
I'm skeptical that it would improve their finances, rather than eating into them.
My kid played travel/HS soccer with a very talented kid who was a pretty good Div 1 goalie, and who has logged time with the Irish U-17 (?) Last I heard she was on the US U-23 team.
I remember watching this kid as a 5 year old playing rec soccer and her instincts for the game were astounding. The kid at 5 was a great athlete
Yeah, she's alright. Takes a certain type.
Do you know the player I was referring to?
Good come from behind win for the Jays.
Almost went to the Phils game today.
Glad I didnt - as I may have been caught clapping during bottom 9 Phil-ure.
heh
Bryce Harper has to be the most overrated ballplayer in the history of the sport. A .249 hitter!
sadly our resident troll is too stupid to understand click-bait in the ultra-competitve world of on-line blogging
SSDD
funny after a philly win he hasn't given up hope, yet just a day ago he had Gabe on death watch
even Grady Little chuckles at the troll's idiocy
My kid played travel/HS soccer with a very talented kid who was a pretty good Div 1 goalie, and who has logged time with the Irish U-17 (?) Last I heard she was on the US U-23 team.
I remember watching this kid as a 5 year old playing rec soccer and her instincts for the game were astounding. The kid at 5 was a great athlete
Yeah, she's alright. Takes a certain type.
Do you know the player I was referring to?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Murphy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Murphy)
My kid played travel/HS soccer with a very talented kid who was a pretty good Div 1 goalie, and who has logged time with the Irish U-17 (?) Last I heard she was on the US U-23 team.
I remember watching this kid as a 5 year old playing rec soccer and her instincts for the game were astounding. The kid at 5 was a great athlete
Yeah, she's alright. Takes a certain type.
Do you know the player I was referring to?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Murphy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Murphy)
Interesting how some folks like to brag, but then when caught exaggerating, they claim up.
TFF
My kid played travel/HS soccer with a very talented kid who was a pretty good Div 1 goalie, and who has logged time with the Irish U-17 (?) Last I heard she was on the US U-23 team.
I remember watching this kid as a 5 year old playing rec soccer and her instincts for the game were astounding. The kid at 5 was a great athlete
Yeah, she's alright. Takes a certain type.
Do you know the player I was referring to?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Murphy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Murphy)
Interesting how some folks like to brag, but then when caught exaggerating, they claim up.
TFF
To my knowledge I've never seen that young woman play soccer, so there is no reason I shouild comment about her.
Troll-you stalked the wrong player and only proved you're just an indecent stalker.
and there was no exaggeration in any of my comments.
you're just an indecent insecure asshole.
My kid played travel/HS soccer with a very talented kid who was a pretty good Div 1 goalie, and who has logged time with the Irish U-17 (?) Last I heard she was on the US U-23 team.
I remember watching this kid as a 5 year old playing rec soccer and her instincts for the game were astounding. The kid at 5 was a great athlete
Yeah, she's alright. Takes a certain type.
Do you know the player I was referring to?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Murphy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Murphy)
Interesting how some folks like to brag, but then when caught exaggerating, they claim up.
TFF
To my knowledge I've never seen that young woman play soccer, so there is no reason I shouild comment about her.
Troll-you stalked the wrong player and only proved you're just an indecent stalker.
and there was no exaggeration in any of my comments.
you're just an indecent insecure asshole.
No. She's the right player. You were lying then, and you're lying now.
But, that's what you do.
troll -you're nothing but a cancer on this forum
Yeah but since 80 - 90% of the time he is being a racist ass hat, it is just not worth the effort anymore.
troll -you're nothing but a cancer on this forum
About 10-20% of the time, he manages to forget either antipathy for all things Boston or to attack one or another of us personally.
On those occasions, he makes useful comments, posts thoughtful observations, and shares worthwhile links. He's even been known to do so for months at a time.
Yeah but since 80 - 90% of the time he is being a racist ass hat, it is just not worth the effort anymore.
troll -you're nothing but a cancer on this forum
About 10-20% of the time, he manages to forget either antipathy for all things Boston or to attack one or another of us personally.
On those occasions, he makes useful comments, posts thoughtful observations, and shares worthwhile links. He's even been known to do so for months at a time.
Really bad bullpens rule in NL East. Have to figure the Nats have the best one with the addition of Fernando Rodney (where's the sarcasm button?).
Phils sweep anyway
Rapinoe got balls
two big ones
Rapinoe got balls
two big ones
Did you watch her growing up, too?
Couple of local products were the Jamaican goalkeeper tandem - one from Jersey, the other from Jamaica, Queens. Quite a few US players with eligibility for other nations are taking their shot.... with the US club of course so tough to make.
And troll this was the post in context that I responded to.Couple of local products were the Jamaican goalkeeper tandem - one from Jersey, the other from Jamaica, Queens. Quite a few US players with eligibility for other nations are taking their shot.... with the US club of course so tough to make.
kid mentions a couple of local kids playing for other countries. Which was the situation of the young woman I watched play from the ages of 5-17.
And troll this was the post in context that I responded to.Couple of local products were the Jamaican goalkeeper tandem - one from Jersey, the other from Jamaica, Queens. Quite a few US players with eligibility for other nations are taking their shot.... with the US club of course so tough to make.
kid mentions a couple of local kids playing for other countries. Which was the situation of the young woman I watched play from the ages of 5-17.
You said she played for Ireland, then team USA, right?
And troll this was the post in context that I responded to.Couple of local products were the Jamaican goalkeeper tandem - one from Jersey, the other from Jamaica, Queens. Quite a few US players with eligibility for other nations are taking their shot.... with the US club of course so tough to make.
kid mentions a couple of local kids playing for other countries. Which was the situation of the young woman I watched play from the ages of 5-17.
You said she played for Ireland, then team USA, right?
Two huge comebacks in 1-game?
Best hope is for a downpour of Biblical proportions PQD.
Ys winning the Battle of Britain F&S.
But this game turned into Y-batting practce after ERod left. and the BP took over.
DD-wake thre fuck up
I'm just thankful it was an exhibition game, like the soccer guys call a "friendly" :)
I'm just thankful it was an exhibition game, like the soccer guys call a "friendly" :)
That would explain whyBud SeligRob Manfred sent over the juiced baseballs.
I dont wear MLB hats, but thanks
I'd put a little responsibility on Rick Porcello going 1/3 of an inning and opening the Sox's Pandora box of relief pitching.
6 fucking runs in 1-fucking-third of an inning.
an ERA of 192.00
That was the greatest non-decison of his lfe.
And I blame Grady Little.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/heres-ex-red-sox-closer-214529048.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/heres-ex-red-sox-closer-214529048.html)
Miss him, now?
Nola is fucking ON tonight
No game on the 4th. Disgusting.
If you told me in March we would be 5.5 back of the Twins going into the break I would have been in despair. As it is, despite nearly everything going wrong that could go wrong, I'm hopeful.
Carlos Carasco has been diagnosed with a form of leukemia but still expects to pitch this year.
Nola has found his groove.
Josh hates competition. Sees it as a weakness. Not unexpected from an extreme leftist.
Season over, yet?
I haven't watched the HR Derby in severa;l years, but Vlad Jr. and Pederson was pretty good tv.
Way to go! Your picks have been submitted.
Round 1 - Matt Chapman (1) vs. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (8)
Matchup Winner: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Round 1 - Alex Bregman (4) vs. Joc Pederson (5)
Matchup Winner: Joc Pederson
Round 1 - Pete Alonso (2) vs. Carlos Santana (7)
Matchup Winner: Pete Alonso
Round 1 - Josh Bell (3) vs. Ronald Acuña Jr. (6)
Matchup Winner: Josh Bell
Round 2 - Winner of 1/8 vs. Winner of 4/5
Matchup Winner: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Round 2 - Winner of 2/7 vs. Winner of 3/6
Matchup Winner: Pete Alonso
Final
Champion: Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Pick the player who will hit the longest home run in the 2019 HR Derby, as measured by Statcast
Josh Bell
Pick the distance of the longest home run hit in the 2019 HR Derby, as measured by Statcast
483
Pick the total number of home runs hit in the entire 2019 HR Derby by all 8 MLB players (221 in 2018)
247
Pick the total number of home runs hit by the winning MLB player in the entire 2019 HR Derby (45 in 2018)
51
Season over, yet?
Struggling with the meaning of "is," are you? 2nd coming of Bill Clinton, huh?
Do you think it's going to change or are you just grasping at straws?
Season over, yet?
Struggling with the meaning of "is," are you? 2nd coming of Bill Clinton, huh?
Do you think it's going to change or are you just grasping at straws?
You should be more concerned with the lice in your beard, twit.
I haven't watched the HR Derby in severa;l years, but Vlad Jr. and Pederson was pretty good tv.
MLBPA: Baseball doing poor job promoting BettsHe should concentrate on performing better.this year. That would help.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27159004/baseball-doing-poor-job-promoting-betts (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27159004/baseball-doing-poor-job-promoting-betts)
MLBPA doing their job, promoting Betts. LOL
But I have to agree that MLB should always hype their stars as much as possible.
the way its going MLB will find its platform to promote its product and stars will grow smaller as its core baby-boomer fans age and die off.
kids don't have the time or inclination or attention span to continually watch a 3 1/2 hr game
Promotion is great, but IMO MLB has to find a way to get more baseball into the game.
HRs and Ks are great within reason, but guys going 1st to 3rd and maybe getting gunned out by the RFer with a cannon is better.
A DP has more than 2X the entertainment value of 2 ks.
I might get rid of the shift, (or limit its use) and it would probably lead to more hits, more runs more possibility for action.
put more baseball back into the game.
Sox makin their run.................
Please start the "Price sucks" malarchy so that he can stick it up your butts, like last year
Please start the "Price sucks" malarchy so that he can stick it up your butts, like last year
If that's what it takes...
But we had a warning that tonight might not be a good night before the game.
Sox makin their run.................
21-12 run. Have to believe we will outlast A's and Rays.
Depends.Okay. So I assume you think they won last year despite him.
But no - I dont like him.
c) Play with the lineup a little
d) Insist we see more minor leaguers before September
Nope. It takes every guy on the roster and coaching staff. They got it done - cant take that away - ever.
Nope. It takes every guy on the roster and coaching staff. They got it done - cant take that away - ever.So if it they don't get it done this year, it's just Cora (and maybe the GM) not being good enough, not everybody on the roster and coaching staff. Managing is a tough gig, I guess.
Nope. It takes every guy on the roster and coaching staff. They got it done - cant take that away - ever.So if it they don't get it done this year, it's just Cora (and maybe the GM) not being good enough, not everybody on the roster and coaching staff. Managing is a tough gig, I guess.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/farrejo03.shtml
Nope. It takes every guy on the roster and coaching staff. They got it done - cant take that away - ever.So if it they don't get it done this year, it's just Cora (and maybe the GM) not being good enough, not everybody on the roster and coaching staff. Managing is a tough gig, I guess.
If they dont get WHAT done?
I'd consider an appearance in the divisional round to be a success for Boston in 2019. I picked the Yankees to win the WS.
You tell me. "If Cora is any good at all he gets it done" is your line.Nope. It takes every guy on the roster and coaching staff. They got it done - cant take that away - ever.So if it they don't get it done this year, it's just Cora (and maybe the GM) not being good enough, not everybody on the roster and coaching staff. Managing is a tough gig, I guess.
If they dont get WHAT done?
I'd consider an appearance in the divisional round to be a success for Boston in 2019. I picked the Yankees to win the WS.
I sense Cora's not getting it done re the WH visit has shaped kid's opinion of him as a manager.It's entirely Cora. He got dumb in the off-season.
I mostly blame Sale/Porcello/Betts/JD's fall-off in performance, along with a slumping 10D, and no bullpen, as the primary reason for the Sox decline this year.
Most of these factors are beyond the managers control.
I sense Cora's not getting it done re the WH visit has shaped kid's opinion of him as a manager.
Very open minded of you.
But I'm not sure I'm ready or need to fall in love with him.
Nice dodge btw the discussion seemed to be why and when you had a problem with Cora.
I posited it came after he won a WS and told Trump to shove it.
Btw, eyeballing the schedule it looks like the Sox have the hardest schedule (# of games against "good" team) of the WC teams: Tribe (30), Rays (17) , As (22) and Sox (31).
Very open minded of you.
But I'm not sure I'm ready or need to fall in love with him.
Nice dodge btw the discussion seemed to be why and when you had a problem with Cora.
I posited it came after he won a WS and told Trump to shove it.
Btw, eyeballing the schedule it looks like the Sox have the hardest schedule (# of games against "good" team) of the WC teams: Tribe (30), Rays (17) , As (22) and Sox (31).
And I told you it was long before that
Nobody here needs a history lesson. Show some respect.
Nobody here needs a history lesson. Show some respect.
Not a Cora fan
If he wins another title, I will change my tune.
Boone's winning this one
I already responded re: the politics of Cora.
That was in fact some icing on the cake. But I was anti-Cora prior to this unpatriotic act.
Will you be repeating this many more times?
You criticized Cora during the Astros series (ALCS)
Actually you said "many on the other site" were calling for Cora's firing.
I assume that was SOSH.
Cora's weird maneuvers quite nearly put the KI-bosh on what was one of the great seasons in Red Sox history. At the time you were not in his corner.
I do not recall any serious criticisms of Cora managing last year., and have no recollections at all of posters calling for his firing this year.
This forum, pages 50-60 might shed some light.
LAST year, as I already noted.
If you put him in based only what you he's done so far then you'd have to put Johan Santana in, too.
Still, and all, Jess Haines is in, so I'd have no problem with Price.
Agreed. But if Price is an HOF guy as of today, then so is Santana.
Now that was funny.
Tanaka find your tanto.
Sox makin their run.................
Any Red Sox offers to propose for Syndergaard?
Yanks also on the trail.
Mets would certainly lean heavily to Yanks if they offered Garcia.
Terrible loss as Cora allows Bradley to bat in the eighth
Happy TD Day. Mets driving the train.
Happy TD Day. Mets driving the train.Short trip.
Another great job by the coaching staff getting Porcello right
Astro's just hi-jacked the train with the Grienke deal.
That's a championship winning trade.
Astro's just hi-jacked the train with the Grienke deal.
That's a championship winning trade.
I remind you of 2011.
Disappointing.
Inconsistency has has been the only constant with this team.
Tried to get into the forum all day but it wouldn't allow me to login. The site must've picked up some kind of virus. Maybe sweepitis? Seems to have lasted for about 14 and a half hours.
Mets 10 of 11....
Mets 10 of 11....
PLUS 1
RED SOXI worry about Pedroia.
Matt Barnes: "BARNESY"
Andrew Benintendi: "BENNY"
Mookie Betts: "MOOKIE"
Xander Bogaerts: "X-MAN"
Jackie Bradley Jr.: "JBJ"
Andrew Cashner: "CASH"
Michael Chavis: "CHIEF"
Rafael Devers: "CARITA"
Nathan Eovaldi: "NITRO"
Darwinzon Hernandez: "HERNANDEZ"
Brock Holt: "BH"
Brian Johnson: "BJ"
Sandy Leon: "NOAH"
J.D. Martinez: "FLACO"
Mitch Moreland: "2 - BAGS"
Steve Pearce: "PEARCE"
Dustin Pedrioa: "PEDEY"
Rick Porcello: "PORCELLO"
David Price: "X
Eduardo Rodriguez: "EL GUALO"
Chris Sale: "THE CONDUCTOR"
Josh Taylor: "TAYLOR"
Sam Travis: "DR. CHILL"
Christian Vazquez: "COLO"
Marcus Walden: "WALDO"
Ryan Weber: "WEB"
Brandon Workman: "WORK"
-Bor-ing!!!
All teams
https://www.mlb.com/news/2019-mlb-players-weekend-nicknames
Last time I watched much Sox baseball, it was "Yaz." Then, interest briefly rekindled, in the oughts, when there was "Big Papi."What about... Oil Can?
"Pedey" is better than "Pedo."
Last time I watched much Sox baseball, it was "Yaz." Then, interest briefly rekindled, in the oughts, when there was "Big Papi."
"Pedey" is better than "Pedo."
He'll never play pro ball again.
Last time I watched much Sox baseball, it was "Yaz." Then, interest briefly rekindled, in the oughts, when there was "Big Papi."What about... Oil Can?
"Pedey" is better than "Pedo."
Last time I watched much Sox baseball, it was "Yaz." Then, interest briefly rekindled, in the oughts, when there was "Big Papi."
"Pedey" is better than "Pedo."
Pedey is now toast. He underwent more knee surgery, it was called "joint preservation procedure".
He'll never play pro ball again.
I hope he gets to run and play with his kids.
MLB and Field of Dreams
Ys @ WSox in Iowa 2020
https://www.mlb.com/news/yankees-white-sox-game-at-field-of-dream-site (https://www.mlb.com/news/yankees-white-sox-game-at-field-of-dream-site)
Perhaps as part of the massive marketing campaign for the event, MLB and the Hall of Fame can make a simultaneous announcement just before the game, that Shoeless Joe will be inducted into the HoF.
Toronto hopping on us early.
All tied up.
Fast and the Furious 10-Commuting From DarienGood thing he is white.
https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/connecticut-cops-swarm-brian-cashman-with-guns-drawn-after-mistaking-him-for-car-thief (https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/connecticut-cops-swarm-brian-cashman-with-guns-drawn-after-mistaking-him-for-car-thief)
Brian Cashman was swarmed by a group of Connecticut police officers who drew their firearms on the Yankee general manager Friday when he was apparently mistaken for an armed car thief, The Post has learned.
First Met game I have watched beginning to end all year. Good win.
Cora keeps starting him
Workman's the closer.
Make your argument for why Cashner's failure to perform is Cora's fault and who you would have him starting, instead.
Key move in fantasy. Looking for steals and batting average picked up Tauchman for Upton. 8 game week for Yanls. PPassed for now on Romine. May use Gore in September
Workman's the closer.
Thank you, Captian Obvious.
Tonight he worked in a non-closing role, as he has done along the way.
I'd consider it. Given his success in his current role, it is hard to take that away from him.
So, I repeat my earlier, since dodged, request. Kid:QuoteMake your argument for why Cashner's failure to perform is Cora's fault and who you would have him starting, instead.
What? The production from Cashner, Cora’s fault?
While I do believe the best coaches/managers can affect a pitcher in a positive manner.... of course the key is where the manager uses the player
Workman's the closer.
Thank you, Captian Obvious.
Tonight he worked in a non-closing role, as he has done along the way.
I'd consider it. Given his success in his current role, it is hard to take that away from him.
So, I repeat my earlier, since dodged, request. Kid:QuoteMake your argument for why Cashner's failure to perform is Cora's fault and who you would have him starting, instead.
What? The production from Cashner, Cora’s fault?
While I do believe the best coaches/managers can affect a pitcher in a positive manner.... of course the key is where the manager uses the playerCora keeps starting him
And, again:
Who you would have him starting, instead?
You can't just take a pitcher out of the rotation. You have to put somebody else in.
Key move in fantasy. Looking for steals and batting average picked up Tauchman for Upton. 8 game week for Yanls. PPassed for now on Romine. May use Gore in September
I'd imagine it's Cleveland.
Cashner has TEN quality starts this year, though just 1 in 6 Sox starts
I am sure this is enough for Cora to stay with him
Franconia? Sounds like a country in a Marx Brothers movie.I'd imagine it's Cleveland.
Yep. 41-17. Too bad Franconia left Boston.
Franconia? Sounds like a country in a Marx Brothers movie.I'd imagine it's Cleveland.
Yep. 41-17. Too bad Franconia left Boston.
Franconia? Sounds like a country in a Marx Brothers movie.I'd imagine it's Cleveland.
Yep. 41-17. Too bad Franconia left Boston.
It's a real place. Germany.
Cora!!!!!!
Could be the Red Sox lack leadership from the player front as well.
We will need to wait and read the book some Boston scribe likely pens on the lost season
Maybe AC knew the season was lost anyway so continues to go with the big stiff.
Its like asking what 2+2 is
I am not playing your idiotic game.
Please - try to bring more to your forum.
Looks like Cora woke up with a fucking ideaWhat, to have Dever.go 6 for 6 with four doubles?
(CNN)A man died Tuesday night after participating in a taco eating competition at a minor league baseball game. The competition took place last night at Chukchansi Park in Fresno, California, during a game between the Fresno Grizzlies and Memphis Redbirds.
Little League World Series once again has a black eye
The New England rep, from Rhode Island has been accused of stealing signs throughout the event.
Gentlemen - really?
https://www.espn.com/llws/story/_/id/27385397/manager-accuses-llws-team-stealing-signs
Ahhhhhh-guh-Mets!
Braves have some pen problems
Solace in that I decided not to bet the game. Mets had looked good at +132.
1st and 2nd, 0 out, down 2, Alonso, Ramos, Conforto coming up.
Fail.
Mets are hanging in
Cora blew up Sox year
I don't generally gamble on sports.
Ahhhhhh-guh-Mets!
Braves have some pen problems
Solace in that I decided not to bet the game. Mets had looked good at +132.
1st and 2nd, 0 out, down 2, Alonso, Ramos, Conforto coming up.
Fail.
Well.....
I did answer
Not sure what your problem is
Last time I was truly active as a bettor was NFL season - and Steelers killed me. Not taking that plunge this year but I do keep track of the numbers
-451.95 total for week. About matching last 2 weeks earnings
-451.95
+58.82 (Phils)
+90.91 (Astros)
-300
-602.22
- total for week
System finishes 3-3 3rd straight day and 20-14
84-55 total
Onward.
Maybe some years shit happens and scapegoating the manager just results in watching him win pennants elsewhere.
Little League World Series once again has a black eye
The New England rep, from Rhode Island has been accused of stealing signs throughout the event.
Gentlemen - really?
https://www.espn.com/llws/story/_/id/27385397/manager-accuses-llws-team-stealing-signs
The Sox are making it look as if they have life in them.
It's a great illusion.
Well.....
I did answer
Not sure what your problem is
Last time I was truly active as a bettor was NFL season - and Steelers killed me. Not taking that plunge this year but I do keep track of the numbers
Yeah, and Trump never settles a lawsuit, either.
Just give the lying a rest, Kid, would you?-451.95 total for week. About matching last 2 weeks earnings
-451.95
+58.82 (Phils)
+90.91 (Astros)
-300
-602.22
- total for week
System finishes 3-3 3rd straight day and 20-14
84-55 total
Onward.
The Sox are making it look as if they have life in them.
It's a great illusion.
Yet we keep on watching...
Well.....
I did answer
Not sure what your problem is
Last time I was truly active as a bettor was NFL season - and Steelers killed me. Not taking that plunge this year but I do keep track of the numbers
Yeah, and Trump never settles a lawsuit, either.
Just give the lying a rest, Kid, would you?-451.95 total for week. About matching last 2 weeks earnings
-451.95
+58.82 (Phils)
+90.91 (Astros)
-300
-602.22
- total for week
System finishes 3-3 3rd straight day and 20-14
84-55 total
Onward.
You missed when I was CRUSHING NBA
You all wanted me to stop - so I did.
Do you see any posts after that early season stretch?
You all wanted me to stop - so I did.
Do you see any posts after that early season stretch?
How much did you lose?
You all wanted me to stop - so I did.
Do you see any posts after that early season stretch?
Nobody asked you to stop, Kid.
You've got problems.
NL Wild Card
(38 left)
Nats
Cubs 1.5
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Mets 3.5
Phils 3.5
Brewers 3.5
C'mon Phils - I had you in the Series!
You all wanted me to stop - so I did.
Do you see any posts after that early season stretch?
Troll
WTF are you babbling about?
Why do you insist on compounding your idiocy?
Or is this just another of your desperate cry for attention?
kid stopped posting his baseball picks not because anyone told him to, but rather after losing about $2500 in a month, he stopped keeping track of his results, and then stopped making picks.
Troll-go dry your tears elsewhere.
Nice folks shouldn't act like jerks here.
whats the money line?
?Nice folks shouldn't act like jerks here.
Maybe this is the only place they can. Take you, for example.
What kind of person would bet on a Little League game?whats the money line?
NJ a huge favorite at -1200
RI is +600
http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/2019-Little-League-Baseball-World-Series-Game-Odds_P35790.html (http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/2019-Little-League-Baseball-World-Series-Game-Odds_P35790.html)
What kind of person would bet on a Little League game?whats the money line?
NJ a huge favorite at -1200
RI is +600
http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/2019-Little-League-Baseball-World-Series-Game-Odds_P35790.html (http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com/2019-Little-League-Baseball-World-Series-Game-Odds_P35790.html)
"Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back..."
I liked the Phillies' manager when he played, not just for the Sox. I like him as a manager. If we can't get to the World Series, I hope he can.
He is fortunate that the WC competing teams' records are so much worse than in the AL!
Bad 1st, bad 9th, game over.
Turned on the game and it's Being aSick Kid to the Booth Night.
Weak.
Turned on the game and it's Being aSick Kid to the Booth Night.
Weak.
Troll.
Brock Holt!
Best game of the year
I think most, if not all, of the Orioles games allow kids 9 and under free admission.
Their attendance has been terrible.
10 Cent Beer Nights tend to go well.I think most, if not all, of the Orioles games allow kids 9 and under free admission.
Their attendance has been terrible.
They might try 2-for-1s on beer
According to this article, the vibe was so good at Fenway, they may try something like it again.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/08/22/red-sox-considering-a-regular-open-house-day-with-free-entry-for-kids/ (https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/08/22/red-sox-considering-a-regular-open-house-day-with-free-entry-for-kids/)
The game still counted in the standings, but the environment at the century-old ballpark on Thursday afternoon was unlike anything the Red Sox have seen before.
With dollar hot dogs, largely-reduced food prices and free tickets for children while adults could gain entry with just a $5 donation to the Jimmy Fund, Fenway Park was filled with people who might not otherwise get a chance to watch the most expensive team in baseball at one of the most expensive venues.
“It was one of the coolest atmospheres that we’ve had here,” said Brock Holt, who hit a walkoff single 12 minutes into the suspended game to capture a 5-4 win over the Royals. “Just how many people showed up and how excited they were. The music was loud pregame and everyone was dancing and seemed to be into the game.”
Watching all the children fill the park was such a success on Thursday that Red Sox president Sam Kennedy was feeling confident the club could one day soon introduce an “open house day,” when kids enter free for select games on a regular basis.
“Could we have an open house day, where we put aside 10,000 to 15,000 tickets just for kids on an ongoing basis free of charge? The obvious answer is yes,” Kennedy said. “There’s a market for that. We need to challenge ourselves to see if that could be a possibility. We’ve talked about that. On lower demand games you might have an opportunity to do that. It really is an investment in the future.”
GREAT IDEA.
That would be a wonderful idea, as so many kids are probably priced out of the Fenway experience and only see them on TV. A Thursday afternoon get-away game a few times a year, as a lossleader to build the fan base for the future is smart business.
Cant catch the A's
Cora bollocksed it up good this year
Cora ruined another one tonight.
Mind you, it is easier to sweep a team when you're only playing two!
Yet another day off tomorrow.
3 games under Pythagorean record
Cash (TB) is a game over
Boone (NYY) is SIX over.
Melvin (A's) even, as is Francona (CLE).
Just JOEY under the line.
I have attempted to impose a ban on the poster known as HamiltonIII.Good!!!!!
As we all know, sometimes people can work around the bans because I cannot broadly ban many a given IP address without impacting others among you. I have attempted to address that, as well, but we will see whether that effort is successful.
If you see a new post from somebody that you are pretty sure is him, flag it and I will take a look as soon as I can.
Regretfully,
Josh
Nats and Mets just played the most incredible game ever.
Dodger Stadium to undergo $100-million renovation this off season
https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2019-07-22/dodger-stadium-outfield-renovation
Video with Vin Scully narrating...
https://youtu.be/VgmEg--a32Y
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A winning team needs a winning ballpark.
Go Dodgers!
Salute,
Tony V.
Damn
that game sums up the Sox 2019
Or fuck the starting pitching of the Sox.
I look forward to the deep analysis from Kid explaining how "Joey" screwed this game up, too.
Mad Dog: "This is about personalities. You dont fire a guy 6 months (?) after winning a World Series."
I have attempted to impose a ban on the poster known as HamiltonIII.
As we all know, sometimes people can work around the bans because I cannot broadly ban many a given IP address without impacting others among you. I have attempted to address that, as well, but we will see whether that effort is successful.
If you see a new post from somebody that you are pretty sure is him, flag it and I will take a look as soon as I can.
Regretfully,
Josh
This team is going to age me.
Helluva win for the Ys.
This team is going to age me.
Helluva win for the Ys.
The Sox overall stats are not all that bad. They could easily have a dozen or more wins with the stats they have. Just a weird bad season for them.
Shows why Price was team MVP
Fell apart when he isn't whole
They will ride Sale while missing Price. Will definitely pay for a closer.. But may not be pretty for a while.
I have attempted to impose a ban on the poster known as HamiltonIII.
As we all know, sometimes people can work around the bans because I cannot broadly ban many a given IP address without impacting others among you. I have attempted to address that, as well, but we will see whether that effort is successful.
If you see a new post from somebody that you are pretty sure is him, flag it and I will take a look as soon as I can.
Regretfully,
Josh
I'm not in favor of banning. But I'm not in charge around here I just post.
Hammy however I will not defend at any time anywhere.
is that what your sources are teling you?
As the season's over there's no need to rush him back, but I read Cora hopes to play him this week, after seeing the Dr.
Bottom 7 for Cubs - down a run
2 on, none out
NO BUNT
Short fly to center
Followed by deep fly to center
Joe sleeps, Chicago weeps
Recently the Mets fans mantra was "play meaningful games in September" - and this has also been a negative cry vs management when that goal is not met.
Happy that "play meaningful games the final week" is in full swing under the new management team.
Hoping WC standings in NL read after today:
MLW
WAS
NYM -4
CHC -4
PHI -5
- Phils likely need all 5 vs WAS (play one double dip). Mets all 4 vs MIA
- not counting on MLW sliding at all
And Mookie is playing tomorrow - yay
I guess he wants his 30 HR and 100 BB
Ah, fuck it. I have better things to do with my October.
Postseason picks upon usI will take "Who Cares" to win it all.
I still have my preseason Yankees WS pick alive, though the Phils as the opponent didnt come through
https://www.mlb.com/postseason
Wild Card polls are up in each league.I was going to ask for a "Who Cares?" option for the poll, but realized that asking for the option is really a contradiction in terms.
Baseball league, for the clueless and pedantic among us.
Wild Card polls are up in each league.I was going to ask for a "Who Cares?" option for the poll, but realized that asking for the option is really a contradiction in terms.
Baseball league, for the clueless and pedantic among us.
Speaking of who cares...
Love Scherzer but I think Brewers take it. Strasburg should be getting the ball. Hader the key for MIL, who may use Woodruff just 4 innings. Hiura likely plays an offensive role.!
4-3 Milwaukee
Love Scherzer but I think Brewers take it. Strasburg should be getting the ball. Hader the key for MIL, who may use Woodruff just 4 innings. Hiura likely plays an offensive role.
4-3 Milwaukee
Postseason picks upon us
I still have my preseason Yankees WS pick alive, though the Phils as the opponent didnt come through
https://www.mlb.com/postseason
Tonight -
Morton (Rays) over Manaea/Fiers (A's)
Rays 3, A's 2
7 men came to bat in the bottom of the first for the Dodgers.
ONE put the ball in play.
That is not what we call exciting baseball.
Conversely, the 9th inning in the Cardinals vs. Braves had bunches of balls put in play and was quite exciting!
I enjoyed the Nats-Dodgers game quite a bit. Good tension down to the last pitch.
I don't expect Washington to win this series, but I would love if it they did!
Big game for Stros. Already lose Verlander for Game 1 v Yanks. Need to keep Cole, Greinke from being necessary in a game 5.
Braves fans should shelve the chop and start the rain dance.
There were some changes during the Atlanta Braves game Wednesday after the team announced it is taking steps to "reduce" the Tomahawk Chop, an arm movement done by fans to cheer on the team.
It comes after St. Louis Cardinals' rookie Ryan Helsley, who is a member of the Cherokee Nation, called the chop disrespectful.
...
"Out of respect for the concerns expressed by Mr. Helsley, we will take several efforts to reduce the Tomahawk Chop during our in-ballpark presentation today," a spokesperson for the Atlanta Braves told CNN.
"Among other things, these steps include not distributing foam tomahawks to each seat and not playing the accompanying music or using Chop-related graphics when Mr. Helsley is in the game."
Helsley expressed his concerns after Game 2 of the National League Division Series on Friday.
"I think it's a misrepresentation of the Cherokee people or Native Americans in general," Helsley told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "It's not me being offended by the whole mascot thing. It's not. It's about the misconception of us, the Native Americans, and it devalues us and how we're perceived in that way, or used as mascots."
Well..............Cards lookin good to go through
Need Buehler tonight.
ahhhhhh...the cast-aside Joe Kelly.
Agreed. I was shocked.
Who was it - Showaler - that lost a series with his closer docked?
Similar here.
It may all be unfolding nicely for the Yanks - who may bypass not only the Dodgers but the Astros as well.
Has Roberts been let go yet?
And why should roberts be fired?
I'm sort of rooting for the Nats to win the whole shebang.
we've all seen the Astros, Ys, and Cards win the WS, but never a team from DC.
So with that,
GONATS
Last night's result portends a 7-gamer
Time for Adam Wainwright to squeeze some ketchup on a sock!Last night's result portends a 7-gamer
Tonight's result portends a 4 or 5 game series.
Congrats to the Nats and their fans.
Congrats to the Nats and their fans.
Best Washington baseball franchise ever!
Congrats to the Nats and their fans.
Best Washington baseball franchise ever!
heh
HOMESTEAD GRAYS, dawg.
MOST in DC - when they won the Negro League World Series for the third time - in 1948
As you were.
12 Hall pf Famers......and yes, the team did start in PA, as the Nationals began in MTL.
The Homestead Grays (also known as Washington Grays or Washington Homestead Grays) were a professional baseball team that played in the Negro leagues in the United States.
You have been corrected, though I am sure you have more to say
Be good now, Smokey Joe.
MOST in DC - when they won the Negro League World Series for the third time - in 1948
As you were.
12 Hall pf Famers......and yes, the team did start in PA, as the Nationals began in MTL.
As attendance at their games in the nation's capital grew, by 1943, the Grays were playing more than two-thirds of their home games in Washington.
Pretty much what I said
3 Negro League Series wins mostly played in Washington, where they are still the best team to have ever played/represented.
HOMESTEAD GRAYS, dawg.
Washington Homestead Grays. Washington Grays.
What don't you understand?
11 years played in DC - exactly
They were a DC team - and won their 3 biggest titles there.
Nationals didn't start in DC either. Are they still a Montreal team?
Its OK - you didnt know the Grays were WASH when you made the initial comment - get over it.
From 1940 until 1942, the Grays played half of their home games in Washington, D.C., while remaining in Pittsburgh for all other home stands.[1] As attendance at their games in the nation's capital grew, by 1943, the Grays were playing more than two-thirds of their home games in Washington.ETA: I missed this quote when Banks posted it.
Jesus son of Joseph could we maybe discuss Eli Manning's Hall of Fame chances? Please? I mean, anything else?
Neither starter has looked sharp thus far, for all that one of them has had more damage done against him than the other.
Go Houston!
Balls get juiced when pitchers miss location.
Astros should start Cole vs Yanks "bullpen game"
heh
Here come.......the YANKS
Astros must go to Cole for the 11th
It helps if I unlock the voting on the poll, I suspect.
OPS+ of 138 vs 136 for KGJOf course none of that counters my opinion that Soto is better hitter at 20 than Griffey was at 20.
Next 4 years Griffey shoots up to 155, 149, 171, 171
Then he has the injury in '95 (down to 122 OPS+) - but of course beats the Yanks in first playoff round (1.488 OPS - heh)
Juan got his work cut out for him.
Houston may have a problem.
I was thinking of the '86 Sox as the Nats were pounding away tonight.
Verlander now 0-5 in WS starts.
Go figure.
I was thinking of the '86 Sox as the Nats were pounding away tonight.
Verlander now 0-5 in WS starts.
Go figure.
6 starts...
Is hard to figure, except that he has faced strong pitching from the other side
2017 for instance - 12 innings, 5 hits 2 bb 14k and doesnt win?
23 year old rookie his first 2 outings in '06
Girardi to manage Phillies.
Always liked Girardi.
I was thinking of the '86 Sox as the Nats were pounding away tonight.
Verlander now 0-5 in WS starts.
Go figure.
6 starts...
Is hard to figure, except that he has faced strong pitching from the other side
2017 for instance - 12 innings, 5 hits 2 bb 14k and doesnt win?
23 year old rookie his first 2 outings in '06
I like Verlander, I'm not mocking him, its just a weird stat on an otherwise pristine 1st ballot HoF resume.
Not the best start for Corbin. Will he bounce back?
Good game for/by the Astros and now they get to come back to their aces, if they want to. But... Verlander sure would make me nervous, the same way Price did until he didn't and Kershaw does.
Good game for/by the Astros and now they get to come back to their aces, if they want to. But... Verlander sure would make me nervous, the same way Price did until he didn't and Kershaw does.
Gave you the numbers but you still do not learn
Game 5 seems inconsequential to me - HOU wins either way
I actually hope Washington wins tonight. Terrible, historic home fold if they do not
“Strasbourg will be excellent. Verlander- not so sure”
- Michael Kay
Ridiculous.
Just another idiot too lazy to research the starts
Bettors seem to believe Verlander may snap his WS losing streak.
Astros are a big favorite at -175 or about 63% win probability
Bettors seem to believe Verlander may snap his WS losing streak.
Astros are a big favorite at -175 or about 63% win probability
Maybe they think he will get bombed then Stros come roaring back
Heh
if Strasburg goes 9. the Nats win?I wonder the last time a pitcher went 9 in a World Series Game without getting the win. Gibson in '68? Probably since then but I will wager not since the rise.of.the modern bull pen, and not in a National League park.
Thats a limb grown on a 500 year old Sequoia and could support a 5 bedroom 5 bath house with a swimming pool and tennis court in the back.
you should be very comfortable on that limb.
Who do you like to win the game? ASTROS
Which starting pitcher will do well? BOTH
Which bullpen more likely mucks it? NATS
What else you need?
if Strasburg goes 9. the Nats win?I wonder the last time a pitcher went 9 in a World Series Game without getting the win. Gibson in '68? Probably since then but I will wager not since the rise.of.the modern bull pen, and not in a National League park.
Thats a limb grown on a 500 year old Sequoia and could support a 5 bedroom 5 bath house with a swimming pool and tennis court in the back.
you should be very comfortable on that limb.
if Strasburg goes 9. the Nats win?I wonder the last time a pitcher went 9 in a World Series Game without getting the win. Gibson in '68? Probably since then but I will wager not since the rise.of.the modern bull pen, and not in a National League park.
Thats a limb grown on a 500 year old Sequoia and could support a 5 bedroom 5 bath house with a swimming pool and tennis court in the back.
you should be very comfortable on that limb.
Well, basically what I am saying is you have to be nuts - or up against a specific circumstance to take the guy out tonight
I understood that. That was a factual inquiry. I thought about Smoltz, but he only went into the 8th in 91 game 7.if Strasburg goes 9. the Nats win?I wonder the last time a pitcher went 9 in a World Series Game without getting the win. Gibson in '68? Probably since then but I will wager not since the rise.of.the modern bull pen, and not in a National League park.
Thats a limb grown on a 500 year old Sequoia and could support a 5 bedroom 5 bath house with a swimming pool and tennis court in the back.
you should be very comfortable on that limb.
Well, basically what I am saying is you have to be nuts - or up against a specific circumstance to take the guy out tonight
Yeah, CIRCUMSTANCE (pitch count) would have gotten Ol Rog by the sixth anyway. He stunk.
I understood that. That was a factual inquiry. I thought about Smoltz, but he only went into the 8th in 91 game 7.if Strasburg goes 9. the Nats win?I wonder the last time a pitcher went 9 in a World Series Game without getting the win. Gibson in '68? Probably since then but I will wager not since the rise.of.the modern bull pen, and not in a National League park.
Thats a limb grown on a 500 year old Sequoia and could support a 5 bedroom 5 bath house with a swimming pool and tennis court in the back.
you should be very comfortable on that limb.
Well, basically what I am saying is you have to be nuts - or up against a specific circumstance to take the guy out tonight
Just another idiot too lazy to research the starts
Not sure how else a batter-runner is supposed to get to the bag.
Not sure how else a batter-runner is supposed to get to the bag.Via the runners lane where the rules provide him safe harbor from an interference call.
How could they have pitched to Soto there. Even with Kendrick up next.
So cool-4 road wins to win a championship
Congrats to the Nats and theirs fans
JD not opting out.
Drew?
I let in the 'roid guys who were generational HoF worthy talents when supposedly clean - Clemens and Bonds, Manny waits a bit - along with the two HoF worthy short stops, Vizquel and Rafael Furcal.
I let in the 'roid guys who were generational HoF worthy talents when supposedly clean - Clemens and Bonds, Manny waits a bit - along with the two HoF worthy short stops, Vizquel and Rafael Furcal.
The minute he left Cleveland.
The minute he left Cleveland.
Well...
the Cleveland Manny was a 33-115-.313 player, on average
How is this not at least the equal of the pre-steroid Bonds?
So if "convicted" what kind of punishment should the Astro's get?
They should be forced to FOREVER BEAR THAT FUCKING APSTROPHE YOU ADDED TO THEIR NAME AS A BADGE OF SHAME.
So if "convicted" what kind of punishment should the Astro's get?
Depends
Does MLB have bigger balls than NFL?
I'm fake NEWS.
I can never tell if Kid is joking.
8-300 for Cole?
For Gerritt fucking Cole?
Good Lord.
Best value
Yankees - 36 mil Cole
Phillies - 24 mil Wheeler
Braves - 18 mil Hamels
Twins - 10 mil Pineda
Giants - 9 mil Gausman
Mets - 3 mil (10 with incentives) Wacha
8-300 for Cole?
For Gerritt fucking Cole?
Good Lord.
9/324
Mon Dieu
Will AJ Hinch ever manage again?Or Cora? MLB will wait until after they finish with the blatant cheating of the Red Sox, but reports have him on the hook for something substantial.
And Beltran will skate.Beltran can forget the Hall of Fame.
Why wouldn't he?
Mets silence and lack of support ifolr Beltran s deafening.
One has to wonder that as MLB said it wouldn't go after players in this matter, if MLB wants the teams to do the dirty work,
That ice Beltran's skating on may be melting on the warm January day.
Mets silence and lack of support ifolr Beltran s deafening.
One has to wonder that as MLB said it wouldn't go after players in this matter, if MLB wants the teams to do the dirty work,
That ice Beltran's skating on may be melting on the warm January day.
Speaking of shortstops -I think A-Rod was a better glove at SS than both.
Not sure who it was but an MLB Radio analyst said this about JETER yesterday
- never the best SS in the game at a particular time
- a lesser defI Iender than Nomar
YeahYes, but Nomar or Jeter?
The shortstop did it.
YeahYes, but Nomar or Jeter?
The shortstop did it.
Red Sox won;t be relevant again for ten years.
So, who are the #4 and 5 starters as of today?Plesac and Civale. Maybe Plutko.
Cole 4 hr allowed to 2 players in 2 inningsYep. Next up the inevitable "...arm stiffness, but not expected to miss much time" press release the Yankees are so good at.
Cole 4 hr allowed to 2 players in 2 innings
Attaboy
just giving us news we already have access to
I would probably give you Verlander instead if you give me Freeman in place of Rizzo.Starling or Ketel?
Your top ten keepers are
Mookie
Bregman
Freeman
Marte
Mondesi
Corbin
Morton
Rizzo
Gallo
Correa
MLB shutting down.
Thanks China.
😁😂Thanks China.
MLB Commish Manfred was informed the source of Coronavirus was Chinese bats.
I heard he will issue an executive order that only American bats made in the U-S-A will be authorized for official MLB baseball.
FUCK CHINESE BATS!
Can the Sale deal be seen as "worth it", given the one title?
Can the Sale deal be seen as "worth it", given the one title?
Sure.
It can also be seen as not worth it, given only one title.
From the viewpoint of those teams that have not won in decades, they would tell you it was totally worth it. From a Yankees fan perspective, I don't know.
But there are two Sale deals. The first I would say was worth it, but the second sure looks like the foolish expenditure that many thought it was at the time.
2020 and 2021 are gone. Will Sale return from TJ surgery as many (but not all) have, even faster than he was before? Will he "merely" regain his former level? Or will he never have a complete season again?
Can the Sale deal be seen as "worth it", given the one title?
Sure.
It can also be seen as not worth it, given only one title.
From the viewpoint of those teams that have not won in decades, they would tell you it was totally worth it. From a Yankees fan perspective, I don't know.
But there are two Sale deals. The first I would say was worth it, but the second sure looks like the foolish expenditure that many thought it was at the time.
2020 and 2021 are gone. Will Sale return from TJ surgery as many (but not all) have, even faster than he was before? Will he "merely" regain his former level? Or will he never have a complete season again?
First and second deals are tied together. Never any thought in Boston to not inking Sale long term - unless there had been an earlier injury.
I think it's a fail (see Moncada, Kopech as part of analysis) - but the banner is nice.
That's what medicals are for
237 K in 158 innings, 2.11 ERA - all you need to know.
Only a "get me out of this town" stance would have seen Sale not get the extension.
Your Moncada statement is too out there for me to even bother with
A truly great player (probably the second best ever from Baltimore) and to the extent that a Hall of Famer could be underrated he was. Arguably, Clemente's equal, but never talked about in such hushed tones.
Compiler.
Well.... they accused Yaz of the same.Who did, other trolls?
I think Kaline was very, very good at literally everything except defense, where he was exceptional, and stealing bases and staying healthy, where he was not. If that makes him a compiler, so be it. He remained a solid contributor in terms of WAR and OPS+ until the end of his career.
I think Kaline was very, very good at literally everything except defense, where he was exceptional, and stealing bases and staying healthy, where he was not. If that makes him a compiler, so be it. He remained a solid contributor in terms of WAR and OPS+ until the end of his career.
Well, the question is if they'd still go ahead if the union vote is YES but 20% of the players say no and will opt to stay home.You think 20% of baseball players do not want/need the paycheck?
My guess is sure - just wondering how much of a pay cut they decide on for each player.
If no Palmeiro, no Bonds
I have no idea why you felt the need to compare Barry and Raffy.
If no Palmeiro, no Bonds
That statement is not comparing them.
It is my opinion. If Bonds is in, so is Palmeiro. Says nothing of Palmeiro being Bonds equal any more than saying Jack Morris is the equal of Sandy Koufax. Just both Hall of Famers.
Heh - how about that proposed Atlantic division?
Boston, Tampa, Yankees in with Nationals, Phils, Mets
Atlanta gets to go to Midwest?
Booooooo......
But games July 1? ounds great, yep.
You can't be infuriated if you had the chance to take a better deal.The players already accepted that better deal. Ownership came back for more. You can be infuriated that your negotiating partner reneged on a good faith agreement about how to adjust salaries due to the pandemic.
Owners have the hammer. They can just say FUCK IT - we will play 48 games and have just ten playoff teams.The owners have the right to start the season when they want. The issue is the owners trying to pull back more money than they agreed.to in "good faith". But then, there has been a toxic labor relationship between the parties, which tends to color matters.
Seems to me this was collectively bargained.
You can't be infuriated if you had the chance to take a better deal.The players already accepted that better deal. Ownership came back for more. You can be infuriated that your negotiating partner reneged on a good faith agreement about how to adjust salaries due to the pandemic.
Owners have the hammer. They can just say FUCK IT - we will play 48 games and have just ten playoff teams.
Seems to me this was collectively bargained.
2) pay players zero $ for the post-season (players have traditionally only gotten paid by playing in the post-season, and only get a modest % of the game revenues)
I dont think this is part of the package - no.
2) pay players zero $ for the post-season (players have traditionally only gotten paid by playing in the post-season, and only get a modest % of the game revenues)
I dont think this is part of the package - no.
So the owners have proposed a proportional pay scale (ie 48/162) which accounts for just the regular season, and pay a fraction of their labor costs, but want to reap almost all the revenues of the higher rated and far more valuable post-season TV package, and which most players would not be comensated for (and there is no gate receipts for the palayers to divvy up) ?
If that's correct you might say that was unfair to the players on its face.
Let's not forget - organizations have had overhead all this time, with little/no revenue - including paying minor league salaries.All organizations and most people have fixed costs, mortgage, car payments, utilities, etc, have no revenue.
and there will not ba any gate this year.
Playoff shares were part of the latest proposal.
You can't be infuriated if you had the chance to take a better deal.
Let's not forget - organizations have had overhead all this time, with little/no revenue - including paying minor league salaries.
Let's not forget - organizations have had overhead all this time, with little/no revenue - including paying minor league salaries.
Let's see their books. Oh? They won't show them to you? But they'll tell you how much they pay each player. There's the issue.
Only if you just need controversy
Sad, you are.
Only if you just need controversy
Sad, you are.
What are you Yoda-lite?
I don't need controversy, nor want it, but as long as MLBPA doesn't trust the owners, and why should they after the years of being lied to, cheated and illegally conspired against by the owners. As long as they think the owners are short-changing them getting to yes will be a problem.
So some transparency for the players might be helpful, and yes it might cost the owners more.
Again have TV contracts been modified to reflect a shortened season? I think the players who are being asked to forgoe their contracts have a right to understand what the owners have given up and what they haven't given up.
Indians took Carson Tucker and Tanner Burns. Following my long standing rule of only drafting players whose names sound like a third rate screen writer's idea for a baseball player's name.
“I must have misinterpreted your June 6th letter,” Halem tells Meyer. “I thought the letter reflected a willingness on the part of the Association to discuss in good faith the economics necessary for the Office of the Commissioner to waive its right under the March Agreement to resume the 2020 season only when there are, among other things, no restrictions on fan access. After reviewing the Association’s counterproposal, I stand corrected.”
Not until the third page does Halem detail what he calls the league’s “Final Counterproposal for 72 games,” in which the players would receive 70 percent of their prorated salaries for the regular season and up to 80 percent if the postseason is completed. The financial guarantee of the offer is the rough equivalent of the guarantee the players would receive if commissioner Rob Manfred exercises his right to impose a season for as few as 48 games at full prorated salary.
If the postseason is completed, the players can earn approximately $300 million more under the league’s proposal than they would in a schedule of 50-odd games. But the union almost certainly will reject the offer because of the similarity of the guarantees and its insistence on receiving 100 percent of the players’ prorated salaries.
Though Friday’s proposal was not necessarily a final overall offer, it might well mark the last time MLB is willing to consider a season as long as 72 games. Each passing day potentially cuts into the length of the schedule, particularly given the owners’ insistence that the playoffs be completed on schedule, citing the potential for a second wave of COVID-19 in the fall and the reluctance of broadcast partners to reschedule their October postseason windows.
In his letter, Halem takes exception to what he calls, “the Association’s rhetoric that players ‘remain opposed to any further pay cuts,’” saying the players were never entitled to be paid in the first place because Manfred had the authority to suspend all contracts once President Trump declared a national emergency on March 13.
Responding to Halem, a PA spokesman said: “Mr. Halem’s self-serving letter is filled with inaccuracies and incomplete facts. We will respond to that and the league’s latest proposal in short order. It should not be forgotten however that even MLB admits that our March Agreement does not require players to agree to further pay cuts. Indeed, as Mr. Halem agreed in a May 18 letter to Tony Clark: ‘The Association is free to take the position that players are unwilling to accept further reductions.’ Pat Houlihan, MLB legal counsel, similarly acknowledged in his May 22 letter to the Players Association. ‘We agree with the Association that, under the Agreement, players are not required to accept less than their full prorated salary.’’
"it appears further dialogue with the league would be futile," ...
.
Ya think?
heh
The owners never wanted to settle.Uh... wrong.
uh... wrong
They continued to better their offer - the last time without first getting a counter from players
Players drew a firm line in the sand
Play ball!
Or fucking strike if you want.
I couldn't give 2 shits right now
Youth/college baseball - u bet.
Only if you just need controversy
Sad, you are.
What are you Yoda-lite?
I don't need controversy, nor want it, but as long as MLBPA doesn't trust the owners, and why should they after the years of being lied to, cheated and illegally conspired against by the owners. As long as they think the owners are short-changing them getting to yes will be a problem.
So some transparency for the players might be helpful, and yes it might cost the owners more.
Again have TV contracts been modified to reflect a shortened season? I think the players who are being asked to forgoe their contracts have a right to understand what the owners have given up and what they haven't given up.
If only that ball that Clark hit in Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS didn't hop the fence......
“We are disappointed that the MLBPA has chosen not to negotiate in good faith over resumption of play after MLB has made three successive proposals that would provide players, Clubs and our fans with an amicable resolution to a very difficult situation caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. The MLBPA understands that the agreement reached on March 26th was premised on the parties’ mutual understanding that the players would be paid their full salaries only if play resumed in front of fans, and that another negotiation was to take place if Clubs could not generate the billions of dollars of ticket revenue required to pay players. The MLBPA’s position that players are entitled to virtually all the revenue from a 2020 season played without fans is not fair to the thousands of other baseball employees that Clubs and our office are supporting financially during this very difficult 2020 season. We will evaluate the Union’s refusal to adhere to the terms of the March Agreement, and after consulting with ownership, determine the best course to bring baseball back to our fans.”
- Office of Major League Baseball
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/13/sports/mlb-strikes-billion-dollar-tv-deal-with-turner-sports-report-says/ (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/13/sports/mlb-strikes-billion-dollar-tv-deal-with-turner-sports-report-says/)
Just as the talks between Major League Baseball players and owners are reaching a crescendo of bickering and disagreement, along came a New York Post report Saturday afternoon that could not have been more poorly timed — for the owners.
The Post reported that MLB has wrapped up a deal worth a billion dollars with Turner Sports to extend a playoff package that includes one of the league championship series.
After a week in which one owner, Bill DeWitt Jr. of the Cardinals, told a St. Louis radio station that “the [baseball] industry isn’t very profitable,” the reported new deal also comes not long before prolonged negotiations between the owners and players are expected to wrap up.
Reaction from players was swift and sarcastic.
From Trevor Bauer of the Reds: “Oh good so ... we can play now, right? Seems there is plenty to go around here. Seems there is plenty of money being made by the league and the teams. Given tha(t) players are the product, I’m sure some of this can be distributed to them, right? Yay for baseball.”
What was I saying about how the MLBPA didn't trust the owners and some transparency might help?
Oops.Only if you just need controversy
Sad, you are.
What are you Yoda-lite?
I don't need controversy, nor want it, but as long as MLBPA doesn't trust the owners, and why should they after the years of being lied to, cheated and illegally conspired against by the owners. As long as they think the owners are short-changing them getting to yes will be a problem.
So some transparency for the players might be helpful, and yes it might cost the owners more.
Again have TV contracts been modified to reflect a shortened season? I think the players who are being asked to forgoe their contracts have a right to understand what the owners have given up and what they haven't given up.
Yankee sign-stealing could damage Joe Girardi's reputation.
https://www.nj.com/sports/2020/06/mlb-rumors-phillies-joe-girardi-stands-to-be-biggest-loser-in-new-yankees-sign-stealing-scandal-opinion.html (https://www.nj.com/sports/2020/06/mlb-rumors-phillies-joe-girardi-stands-to-be-biggest-loser-in-new-yankees-sign-stealing-scandal-opinion.html)
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/06/resolving-this-player-owner-dispute-should-be-easy.html
Yankee sign-stealing could damage Joe Girardi's reputation.
https://www.nj.com/sports/2020/06/mlb-rumors-phillies-joe-girardi-stands-to-be-biggest-loser-in-new-yankees-sign-stealing-scandal-opinion.html (https://www.nj.com/sports/2020/06/mlb-rumors-phillies-joe-girardi-stands-to-be-biggest-loser-in-new-yankees-sign-stealing-scandal-opinion.html)
"And we eventually caught it" would have made far more sense had he not started that explanation with, "I was part of a system..."
Yankee sign-stealing could damage Joe Girardi's reputation.
https://www.nj.com/sports/2020/06/mlb-rumors-phillies-joe-girardi-stands-to-be-biggest-loser-in-new-yankees-sign-stealing-scandal-opinion.html (https://www.nj.com/sports/2020/06/mlb-rumors-phillies-joe-girardi-stands-to-be-biggest-loser-in-new-yankees-sign-stealing-scandal-opinion.html)
"And we eventually caught it" would have made far more sense had he not started that explanation with, "I was part of a system..."
Well, maybe it was with the Cubs. Or the Rockies. Or with Tony LaRussa--famed cheater.
I like Tony Clark
https://twitter.com/MLBPA_News/status/1272659761155248131
but this does not help
Yeah, just shut up and let Manfred do it the way he wants to, Tony! None of this standing up for the players crap.
Well, no - they declined all the Manfred overtures.
That's what Manfred says. It's not what they say.
uh... what?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/georgia-clayton-county-teens-police-video/index.html
Excellent police work
Ridiculous CNN headline
16 team playoffs
DH in both leagues
Seems players will now push for similar agreement but with more games.
AD SPACE to be sold on MLB uniforms as part of agreement (I'd think somewhat similar to NBA, not NASCAR)
Unless it is Philadelphia maybe? Because if it is Cleveland winning it all your asterisk can go directly up your... asterisk.16 team playoffs
DH in both leagues
Seems players will now push for similar agreement but with more games.
AD SPACE to be sold on MLB uniforms as part of agreement (I'd think somewhat similar to NBA, not NASCAR)
So, if the 60 games brought you 16 teams in the play-offs last season, the Nats don't even make the play-offs, and certainly don't become World Champions.
Yes, it will be the 2020* season.
Unless it is Philadelphia maybe? Because if it is Cleveland winning it all your asterisk can go directly up your... asterisk.16 team playoffs
DH in both leagues
Seems players will now push for similar agreement but with more games.
AD SPACE to be sold on MLB uniforms as part of agreement (I'd think somewhat similar to NBA, not NASCAR)
So, if the 60 games brought you 16 teams in the play-offs last season, the Nats don't even make the play-offs, and certainly don't become World Champions.
Yes, it will be the 2020* season.
Really? Looks like a period to me, although I also used a question mark and elipses.Unless it is Philadelphia maybe? Because if it is Cleveland winning it all your asterisk can go directly up your... asterisk.16 team playoffs
DH in both leagues
Seems players will now push for similar agreement but with more games.
AD SPACE to be sold on MLB uniforms as part of agreement (I'd think somewhat similar to NBA, not NASCAR)
So, if the 60 games brought you 16 teams in the play-offs last season, the Nats don't even make the play-offs, and certainly don't become World Champions.
Yes, it will be the 2020* season.
You have punctuated your remarks with negativity.
Really? Looks like a period to me, although I also used a question mark and elipses.Unless it is Philadelphia maybe? Because if it is Cleveland winning it all your asterisk can go directly up your... asterisk.16 team playoffs
DH in both leagues
Seems players will now push for similar agreement but with more games.
AD SPACE to be sold on MLB uniforms as part of agreement (I'd think somewhat similar to NBA, not NASCAR)
So, if the 60 games brought you 16 teams in the play-offs last season, the Nats don't even make the play-offs, and certainly don't become World Champions.
Yes, it will be the 2020* season.
You have punctuated your remarks with negativity.
60* games 16 teams competing for the WS.
Hmm, excepting the lost 94 money losing regular season games, this could be 1960!
60* games 16 teams competing for the WS.
Hmm, excepting the lost 94 money losing regular season games, this could be 1960!
More like 1981.*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Major_League_Baseball_strike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Major_League_Baseball_strike)
Really? Looks like a period to me, although I also used a question mark and elipses.Unless it is Philadelphia maybe? Because if it is Cleveland winning it all your asterisk can go directly up your... asterisk.16 team playoffs
DH in both leagues
Seems players will now push for similar agreement but with more games.
AD SPACE to be sold on MLB uniforms as part of agreement (I'd think somewhat similar to NBA, not NASCAR)
So, if the 60 games brought you 16 teams in the play-offs last season, the Nats don't even make the play-offs, and certainly don't become World Champions.
Yes, it will be the 2020* season.
You have punctuated your remarks with negativity.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1OCE3fh2dgReally? Looks like a period to me, although I also used a question mark and elipses.Unless it is Philadelphia maybe? Because if it is Cleveland winning it all your asterisk can go directly up your... asterisk.16 team playoffs
DH in both leagues
Seems players will now push for similar agreement but with more games.
AD SPACE to be sold on MLB uniforms as part of agreement (I'd think somewhat similar to NBA, not NASCAR)
So, if the 60 games brought you 16 teams in the play-offs last season, the Nats don't even make the play-offs, and certainly don't become World Champions.
Yes, it will be the 2020* season.
You have punctuated your remarks with negativity.
We were just discussing the solar elipses in tother forum!
And any final sentence that is discussing Cleveland's winning it all has to be considered positivity, not negativity! Downright ebullient optimism!
Owners reportedly pissed that the players countered with 70 games to their 60-game proposal.
uhhhh, yeah
10 games poorer
But if these games (70) fit into the time frame MLB was OK with from the start - let's go.
Anything making the playoffs end after 10/27 is problematic.
60* games 16 teams competing for the WS.
Hmm, excepting the lost 94 money losing regular season games, this could be 1960!
More like 1981.*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Major_League_Baseball_strike (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Major_League_Baseball_strike)
There's no strike this year, not yet, and I was going for the 16 team competing for a WS.
Owners reportedly pissed that the players countered with 70 games to their 60-game proposal.
Really? Looks like a period to me, although I also used a question mark and elipses.Unless it is Philadelphia maybe? Because if it is Cleveland winning it all your asterisk can go directly up your... asterisk.16 team playoffs
DH in both leagues
Seems players will now push for similar agreement but with more games.
AD SPACE to be sold on MLB uniforms as part of agreement (I'd think somewhat similar to NBA, not NASCAR)
So, if the 60 games brought you 16 teams in the play-offs last season, the Nats don't even make the play-offs, and certainly don't become World Champions.
Yes, it will be the 2020* season.
You have punctuated your remarks with negativity.
We were just discussing the solar elipses in tother forum!
And any final sentence that is discussing Cleveland's winning it all has to be considered positivity, not negativity! Downright ebullient optimism!
MLB moves toward cancelling season. Will not consider anything beyond 60 games. Taking the weekend to finalize their next action.
I wonder if the owners have business interuption insurance to cover losses in the event... and what the deductible might be.
They do not
Owners make more money at 60, given other provisions - than they would have at 50.
But sure - call it a win for Clark
Seems he may not take it.
Players Association vote today on latest MLB proposal.
38 votes. 20 yeah needed. But the 8 members of committee all expected to be nays. Thus 20 of the 30 team votes will be needed for approval.
Players Association vote today on latest MLB proposal.
38 votes. 20 yeah needed. But the 8 members of committee all expected to be nays. Thus 20 of the 30 team votes will be needed for approval.
The yeah vote - a form of grudging agreement, not to be confused with a "yea" vote.
Hey big man Trout - hey - Bauer the clown -
what happened to "tell us when and where?"
Hey big man Trout - hey - Bauer the clown -
what happened to "tell us when and where?"
That's what's going to happen.
Nu?
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/sports/alex-rodriguez-jennifer-lopez-mike-repole-mets
Arod and JLo buying the Mets?!
60*
All games should be outdoors. Are there still teams who play in a dome with no retractable roof? The twins?Tampa's roof isn't retractable. Minnesota doesn't have a roof.
All games should be outdoors.Tampa's roof isn't retractable.
Another "sun kills virus" voice heard.
Always a chance restrictions lifted by that time - but yes, since players are being tested it also could be that Rays players can play in NY anyway.
For example, there's an empty stadium in Pawtucket that could accomodate a MLB team like, the Blue Jays, who might need to relocate out of Canada.
Another "sun kills virus" voice heard.
Responding to YG
Yup. So it may be a moot point. Covid is nasty and insidious and has little regard or respect for our national pastime. I'm pretty sure its a Phillies fan.
I can see delays and covid-postponements, (like rain-outs, but with coughs, but no highlights of the seasons past to kill time). But 60 games or 6, somehow the owners will manage to justify and play the post-season.
Another "sun kills virus" voice heard.
Another "sun kills virus" voice heard.
It's not about the sun, it's about the open air being a safer environment than being inside the circulated air of a dome.
Another "sun kills virus" voice heard.
It's not about the sun, it's about the open air being a safer environment than being inside the circulated air of a dome.
I doubt he can hear you any better than he could hear me, but we can hope.
Another "sun kills virus" voice heard.
It's not about the sun, it's about the open air being a safer environment than being inside the circulated air of a dome.
I doubt he can hear you any better than he could hear me, but we can hope.
His post, though incorrect, leads me to wonder if they will even bother with day games. With a limited # of games i would guess that evening games would be best to maximize ratings and revenue.
On a related note, was there any thought to playing doubleheaders to get the number of games up past 60?
Not that simple to just change the end date to 10/2.
MLB gave the framework on dates.
Players fucked the fans (and themselves) out of expanded playoffs ($$), All Star Game and HR Derby.
You say that as if Manfred could not have just ordered those things to happen.
correct
Fenway should ban racist assholes and trolls and make sure they ban sticks.
Perhaps they can take a page fom Elba. Once someone is IDed for repeated reprehensible anti-social behavior here, the repeating offender gets banned.
Fenway should ban racist assholes and trolls and make sure they ban sticks.
Perhaps they can take a page fom Elba. Once someone is IDed for repeated reprehensible anti-social behavior here, the repeating offender gets banned.
We haven't banned the racist assholes and trolls. And our ability to make the ban stick is... variable.
Only a dope would ever think they give a crap about any of their employees.
I recommend the fall collegiate baseball in your area
There's probably a lot of guys who'd love a shot to jump from AA, AAA to AAAA ball
Let me know when a meaningful player decides not to play
Did Snell decide officially yet?
No shortage of guys ready to hop in.
If a game goes into extra innings, teams will start each half-inning with a runner on second base — a move that will likely lead to more scoring when teams are tied after nine innings. Also, any player may appear as a pitcher at any point in the game.
I imagine if the runner scores that this would count as an un-earned run, right?
Scratch Landis.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29387969/mvps-say-pull-landis-name-plaques (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29387969/mvps-say-pull-landis-name-plaques)
If a game goes into extra innings, teams will start each half-inning with a runner on second base — a move that will likely lead to more scoring when teams are tied after nine innings. Also, any player may appear as a pitcher at any point in the game.
I imagine if the runner scores that this would count as an un-earned run, right?
If a game goes into extra innings, teams will start each half-inning with a runner on second base — a move that will likely lead to more scoring when teams are tied after nine innings. Also, any player may appear as a pitcher at any point in the game.
I imagine if the runner scores that this would count as an un-earned run, right?
Which runner? How is that determined?
And does the last part mean a pitcher can be removed and then put back in?
If a game goes into extra innings, teams will start each half-inning with a runner on second base — a move that will likely lead to more scoring when teams are tied after nine innings. Also, any player may appear as a pitcher at any point in the game.
I imagine if the runner scores that this would count as an un-earned run, right?
Which runner? How is that determined?
And does the last part mean a pitcher can be removed and then put back in?
I think Kam got it wrong, I think the rule change is aimed at allowing position players to pitch only in extra-innings or blow-outs (+6/-6 runs) . In a regular 9-inning non-blow out game only pitchers can pitch.
If a game goes into extra innings, teams will start each half-inning with a runner on second base — a move that will likely lead to more scoring when teams are tied after nine innings. Also, any player may appear as a pitcher at any point in the game.
I imagine if the runner scores that this would count as an un-earned run, right?
Which runner? How is that determined?
And does the last part mean a pitcher can be removed and then put back in?
I think Kam got it wrong, I think the rule change is aimed at allowing position players to pitch only in extra-innings or blow-outs (+6/-6 runs) . In a regular 9-inning non-blow out game only pitchers can pitch.
Kam's comment is verbatim from an article.
Players have to meet certain criteria to qualify as two-way players -- in either the current MLB season or the previous one, they have to pitch at least 20 innings in the Majors and start at least 20 games as a position player or DH where they bat three or more times.
From the MLB article
The two-way player designation for 2020 also allows players who met the requirements in 2018 to qualify this season. So Ohtani, who didn't pitch last year because of Tommy John surgery but did pitch as a rookie in '18, can still be named a two-way player for the Angels right away.
The Ohtani clause.
The Central Division teams have a far easier time this year than East or West.
The Central Division teams have a far easier time this year than East or West.
Pretty much true most years..
https://theathletic.com/1909001/2020/07/03/cleveland-indians-ready-to-discuss-changing-team-name/ (https://theathletic.com/1909001/2020/07/03/cleveland-indians-ready-to-discuss-changing-team-name/)
After 105 years, the Cleveland Indians’ nickname might be on borrowed time.
With the NFL’s Washington Redskins launching an internal review of their team nickname this week, the Indians have initiated plans to further examine and consider the future of their own. The topic made the rounds in the Indians’ front office on Friday, the first full day of spring training workouts at Progressive Field.
“We are committed to making a positive impact in our community and embrace our responsibility to advance social justice and equality,” the team said in a statement sent to The Athletic on Friday evening. “Our organization fully recognizes our team name is among the most visible ways in which we connect with the community.
“We have had ongoing discussions organizationally on these issues. The recent unrest in our community and our country has only underscored the need for us to keep improving as an organization on issues of social justice.
Predictions for new names for the Indians?
The Braves?
The Cleveland Naps.
He'll have until the 2021 season to get better.
He'll have until the 2021 season to get better.
He has to survive the night first.
David Price is opting out of the season.
Mad Dog Russo and other. apologists for this piece of crap commissioner can shut up, now:
https://sports.yahoo.com/rob-manfred-admits-mlb-never-intended-to-play-more-than-60-games-223213827.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/rob-manfred-admits-mlb-never-intended-to-play-more-than-60-games-223213827.html)
“The reality is we weren’t going to play more than 60 games no matter how the negotiations with the players went..."
Sham Commissioner.
All these athletes testing COVID-positive
Doesn't seem to be much concern that any of them will die.Wow
Just reading now that Landry Shamet may die.
Tough times.
All these athletes testing COVID-positive
Doesn't seem to be much concern that any of them will die.
All these athletes testing COVID-positive
Doesn't seem to be much concern that any of them will die.
Really is zero concern.
It's m-COVID.
- Qiu Jun (72), Chinese bodybuilder, died on February 6 in Wuhan
- Italo De Zan (92), Italian cyclist, died on March 9 in Treviso
- Francisco Garcia (21), Spanish football coach, died on March 17 in Malaga
- Luciano Federici (81), Italian footballer, died on March 18 in Carrara
- Innocenzo Donina (69), Italian footballer, died on March 19 in Bergamo
- Jose Maria Candela (59), Spanish sports journalist, died on March 20
- Tomas Diaz-Valdes (78), Spanish sports journalist and amateur pilot, died on March 20 in Madrid
- Benito Joanet (84), Spanish footballer and coach, died on March 22 in Alicante
- Mohamed Farah (59), Somalian footballer, died on March 24 in London
- Azam Khan (95), Pakistani squash player, died on March 28 in London
- Pearson Jordan (69), Barbadian sprinter, died on March 28
- Jose Luis Capon (72), Spanish footballer, died on March 29 in Madrid
- Angelo Rottoli (61), Italian boxer, died on March 29 in Ponte San Pietro
- David Hodgkiss (71), Chairman of Lancashire County Cricket Club, died on March 30
- Pape Diouf (69), Senegalese journalist and former president of Olympique de Marseille, died on March 31 at Dakar
- Daniel Yuste (75), Spanish cyclist, died on March 31
- Goyo Benito (73), Spanish footballer, died on April 2 in Madrid
- Zaccaria Cometti (83), Italian footballer, died on April 2 in Romano di Lombardia
- Arnold Sowinski (89), French footballer, died on April 2 in Lens
- Tom Dempsey (73), American football (NFL), died on April 4in New Orleans
- Roger Chappot (79), Swiss ice hockey player, died April 7
- Donato Sabia (56), Italian athlete, died April 8 in Potenza
- Miguel Jones (81), Spainish footballer, died on April 8 in Madrid
- Francesco La Rosa (93), Italian footballer, died on April 8, in Milan
- Ho Kam Ming (95), Macanese-born Canadian martial artist, died on April 9in Toronto
- Francisco Aritmendi (81), Spanish athlete, died on April 12
- Baldiri Alavedra (76), Spanish footballer, died on April 13
- Zafar Sarfraz (50), Pakistani cricketer, died on April 13 kin Peshawar
- Cyril Lawrence (99), English Footballer, died on April 14
- Norman Hunter (76), English Footballer, died on April 17
- Lukman Niode (56), Indonesian swimmer, died on April 17
- Bob Lazier (81), American race car driver, died on April 18
- Urano Navarrini (74), Italian football player and manager, died on April 18
- Steve Dalkowski (80), American baseball player, died on April 19
- Josep Sala Mane (82), Spanish casteller, died on April 20
- Dave Bacuzzi (79), British footballer, died on April 21
- Teruyuki Okazaki (88), Japanese karate master, died on April 21
- Henk Overgoor (75), Dutch footballer, died on April 23
- John Rowlands (73), English footballer, died on April 26
- Francesco Perrone (89), Italian athlete, died on April 27
- Dick Lucas (86), American Football player, died on April 29
- Fernando Sandoval (77), Brazilian water polo players, died on May 1
- Jim Cross (83), American ice hockey player, died on May 2
- John Ogilvie (91), English footballer, died on May 2
- Roy Lester (96), American Football player, died on May 3
- Shobushi (28), Japanese sumo wrestler, died on May 13
- Marv Luster (82), American Football player, died on May 25
- Celio Taveira (79), Brazil footballer, died on May 29
- Riaz Sheikh (51), Pakistani cricketer, died on June 4
- E Hamsakoya (61), Indian footballer, died on June 6
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/05/sports/terry-francona-comes-out-favor-dropping-indians-name/?event=event12 (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/05/sports/terry-francona-comes-out-favor-dropping-indians-name/?event=event12)
CLEVELAND — Cleveland manager Terry Francona won’t sidestep the hot-button topic any longer. He believes the Indians need to change their contentious nickname.
“I think it's time to move forward,” Francona said Sunday.
I like the Cleveland Fellers, it recalls a storied player, an all-time great, but might be viewed as excluding the gals.
Cleveland Rocks would tie Cleveland's famous Hall of Fame and famed slugger Rocky Colavito, but Colorado might get pissed.
The Cleveland Harders might make a few fans happy, but some could pervert it and the logo might present an issue.
How about Cleveland Steamers, an ode to the city and region's industrial past and chest-thumping pride?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/05/sports/terry-francona-comes-out-favor-dropping-indians-name/?event=event12 (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/05/sports/terry-francona-comes-out-favor-dropping-indians-name/?event=event12)I own the copyright on Cleveland Harders.
CLEVELAND — Cleveland manager Terry Francona won’t sidestep the hot-button topic any longer. He believes the Indians need to change their contentious nickname.
“I think it's time to move forward,” Francona said Sunday.
I like the Cleveland Fellers, it recalls a storied player, an all-time great, but might be viewed as excluding the gals.
Cleveland Rocks would tie Cleveland's famous Hall of Fame and famed slugger Rocky Colavito, but Colorado might get pissed.
The Cleveland Harders might make a few fans happy, but some could pervert it and the logo might present an issue.
How about Cleveland Steamers, an ode to the city and region's industrial past and chest-thumping pride?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/05/sports/terry-francona-comes-out-favor-dropping-indians-name/?event=event12 (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/05/sports/terry-francona-comes-out-favor-dropping-indians-name/?event=event12)I own the copyright on Cleveland Harders.
CLEVELAND — Cleveland manager Terry Francona won’t sidestep the hot-button topic any longer. He believes the Indians need to change their contentious nickname.
“I think it's time to move forward,” Francona said Sunday.
I like the Cleveland Fellers, it recalls a storied player, an all-time great, but might be viewed as excluding the gals.
Cleveland Rocks would tie Cleveland's famous Hall of Fame and famed slugger Rocky Colavito, but Colorado might get pissed.
The Cleveland Harders might make a few fans happy, but some could pervert it and the logo might present an issue.
How about Cleveland Steamers, an ode to the city and region's industrial past and chest-thumping pride?
And I AM not alone in wanting that name.
https://thespun.com/more/mlb/cleveland-spiders-nickname-change-idea (https://thespun.com/more/mlb/cleveland-spiders-nickname-change-idea)
They could also be the Spidermen!!
the 40 games against their AL East foes -- 10 games each --will not be evenly split. For example, the Sox will play the Yankees in New York seven times and the Rays in Florida six times. Conversely, Toronto will visit Fenway seven times and the Orioles will be here for six games.
Quotethe 40 games against their AL East foes -- 10 games each --will not be evenly split. For example, the Sox will play the Yankees in New York seven times and the Rays in Florida six times. Conversely, Toronto will visit Fenway seven times and the Orioles will be here for six games.
What's with that?!
Quotethe 40 games against their AL East foes -- 10 games each --will not be evenly split. For example, the Sox will play the Yankees in New York seven times and the Rays in Florida six times. Conversely, Toronto will visit Fenway seven times and the Orioles will be here for six games.
What's with that?!
It would have been too simple to schedule the 4 division rivals 5H 5A for 40 games
and the other league disvision (NL E in this case) 5 teams 2H 2A for 20 games.
Not that its going to matter, but the Sox play the Ys 7 times in NY before their first series against them in late Sept
*
Quotethe 40 games against their AL East foes -- 10 games each --will not be evenly split. For example, the Sox will play the Yankees in New York seven times and the Rays in Florida six times. Conversely, Toronto will visit Fenway seven times and the Orioles will be here for six games.
What's with that?!
It would have been too simple to schedule the 4 division rivals 5H 5A for 40 games
and the other league disvision (NL E in this case) 5 teams 2H 2A for 20 games.
Not that its going to matter, but the Sox play the Ys 7 times in NY before their first series against them in late Sept
*
And 7 times in NY and 3 times at Fenway.
It makes no sense.
Quotethe 40 games against their AL East foes -- 10 games each --will not be evenly split. For example, the Sox will play the Yankees in New York seven times and the Rays in Florida six times. Conversely, Toronto will visit Fenway seven times and the Orioles will be here for six games.
What's with that?!
It would have been too simple to schedule the 4 division rivals 5H 5A for 40 games
and the other league disvision (NL E in this case) 5 teams 2H 2A for 20 games.
Not that its going to matter, but the Sox play the Ys 7 times in NY before their first series against them in late Sept
*
And 7 times in NY and 3 times at Fenway.
It makes no sense.
Agreed.
I heard on talk radio (so take it with a big grain of whatever) the imbalance was to reduce travel.
no idea if its true
Intuitively it seems unfair on its face.
Quotethe 40 games against their AL East foes -- 10 games each --will not be evenly split. For example, the Sox will play the Yankees in New York seven times and the Rays in Florida six times. Conversely, Toronto will visit Fenway seven times and the Orioles will be here for six games.
What's with that?!
It would have been too simple to schedule the 4 division rivals 5H 5A for 40 games
and the other league disvision (NL E in this case) 5 teams 2H 2A for 20 games.
Not that its going to matter, but the Sox play the Ys 7 times in NY before their first series against them in late Sept
*
And 7 times in NY and 3 times at Fenway.
It makes no sense.
Quotethe 40 games against their AL East foes -- 10 games each --will not be evenly split. For example, the Sox will play the Yankees in New York seven times and the Rays in Florida six times. Conversely, Toronto will visit Fenway seven times and the Orioles will be here for six games.
What's with that?!
It would have been too simple to schedule the 4 division rivals 5H 5A for 40 games
and the other league disvision (NL E in this case) 5 teams 2H 2A for 20 games.
Not that its going to matter, but the Sox play the Ys 7 times in NY before their first series against them in late Sept
*
And 7 times in NY and 3 times at Fenway.
It makes no sense.
Waaaahhhh!!!
As an aside in doing copious research how the fuck did Tim Keefe go 6-6 with an 0,86 ERA? He must have had some shitty defenders behind him
Hate to lose a good kid like this -What position did he play and who was he playing for?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/politics/vindman-retiring-alleged-white-house-retaliation/index.html
Paging Dr. West! Paging Dr. West! Dr. Joe West!
The MLB umpires union distances themselves from one of its oldest, dumbest members:
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/07/09/mlbua-releases-statement-regarding-joe-wests-covid-19-comments/ (https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/07/09/mlbua-releases-statement-regarding-joe-wests-covid-19-comments/)
A-Rod, bidding for Mets, wants players to accept cap systemFucking hilarious.
A-Rod, bidding for Mets, wants players to accept cap systemFucking hilarious.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2900652-daniel-bard-makes-rockies-opening-day-roster-7-years-after-last-mlb-appearance?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Several S.F. Giants players and coaches -- including manager Gabe Kapler -- knelt for the national anthem Monday ... and Donald Trump took aim at them afterward, calling it all a "great disrespect."
"Looking forward to live sports," Trump said, "but any time I witness a player kneeling during the National Anthem, a sign of great disrespect for our Country and our Flag, the game is over for me!"
Not so sure Trump watches much baseball
Looking forward to FAUCI tossing out the first pitch
Perhaps if the Jays play in Pitt, they should call themselves Grays as homage to a former Pitt-based ball club.
In other news rumors building LAD and Mookie doing something big.
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/ (https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/)
Boston radio station WEEI and Lou Merloni are reporting that Mookie Betts, one of the biggest stars in the game, will not hit free agency this offseason as expected, and will re-up with the Dodgers on a 10-year deal worth something in the $350 to $400 million range “within the next couple days.”
I'm guessing a pandemic might have shaded his thinking about long-term security.Perhaps if the Jays play in Pitt, they should call themselves Grays as homage to a former Pitt-based ball club.
In other news rumors building LAD and Mookie doing something big.
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/ (https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/)
Boston radio station WEEI and Lou Merloni are reporting that Mookie Betts, one of the biggest stars in the game, will not hit free agency this offseason as expected, and will re-up with the Dodgers on a 10-year deal worth something in the $350 to $400 million range “within the next couple days.”
If he was going to do that, why didn't he do it here?!
pouts!
Perhaps if the Jays play in Pitt, they should call themselves Grays as homage to a former Pitt-based ball club.
In other news rumors building LAD and Mookie doing something big.
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/ (https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/)
Boston radio station WEEI and Lou Merloni are reporting that Mookie Betts, one of the biggest stars in the game, will not hit free agency this offseason as expected, and will re-up with the Dodgers on a 10-year deal worth something in the $350 to $400 million range “within the next couple days.”
If he was going to do that, why didn't he do it here?!
pouts!
Perhaps if the Jays play in Pitt, they should call themselves Grays as homage to a former Pitt-based ball club.
In other news rumors building LAD and Mookie doing something big.
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/ (https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/)
Boston radio station WEEI and Lou Merloni are reporting that Mookie Betts, one of the biggest stars in the game, will not hit free agency this offseason as expected, and will re-up with the Dodgers on a 10-year deal worth something in the $350 to $400 million range “within the next couple days.”
If he was going to do that, why didn't he do it here?!
pouts!
LA is more friendly to people of color? Just a guess.
Perhaps if the Jays play in Pitt, they should call themselves Grays as homage to a former Pitt-based ball club.
In other news rumors building LAD and Mookie doing something big.
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/ (https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/)
Boston radio station WEEI and Lou Merloni are reporting that Mookie Betts, one of the biggest stars in the game, will not hit free agency this offseason as expected, and will re-up with the Dodgers on a 10-year deal worth something in the $350 to $400 million range “within the next couple days.”
If he was going to do that, why didn't he do it here?!
pouts!
LA is more friendly to people of color? Just a guess.
Could be but LA has a history of very strained race relations as well. And far more violent than anything experienced in Boston.
You may not he old enough to recall, or suffer from selective amnesia, but LA burned in the Watts riots in '65 , and the Rodney King riots in '92, and more recently the riots surrounding the George Floyd murder.
Lotta angry people out there.
Seeing as Mookie has mosltly experienced LA in quarantine and isolation, and given covid-19 is now revisting LA with a vengenance, Mookie might not meet his next door neighbor for months. So he might have to wait on judging the friendliness of LA for awhile.
I'm guessing he signed for money and forever security.
Perhaps if the Jays play in Pitt, they should call themselves Grays as homage to a former Pitt-based ball club.
In other news rumors building LAD and Mookie doing something big.
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/ (https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/)
Boston radio station WEEI and Lou Merloni are reporting that Mookie Betts, one of the biggest stars in the game, will not hit free agency this offseason as expected, and will re-up with the Dodgers on a 10-year deal worth something in the $350 to $400 million range “within the next couple days.”
If he was going to do that, why didn't he do it here?!
pouts!
LA is more friendly to people of color? Just a guess.
Could be but LA has a history of very strained race relations as well. And far more violent than anything experienced in Boston.
You may not he old enough to recall, or suffer from selective amnesia, but LA burned in the Watts riots in '65 , and the Rodney King riots in '92, and more recently the riots surrounding the George Floyd murder.
Lotta angry people out there.
Seeing as Mookie has mosltly experienced LA in quarantine and isolation, and given covid-19 is now revisting LA with a vengenance, Mookie might not meet his next door neighbor for months. So he might have to wait on judging the friendliness of LA for awhile.
I'm guessing he signed for money and forever security.
But the players say they don't want to play in Boston, which has nothing to do with Rodney King, and everything to do with the bigots in the stands at Fenway.
Nice try at deflection, though.
Perhaps if the Jays play in Pitt, they should call themselves Grays as homage to a former Pitt-based ball club.
In other news rumors building LAD and Mookie doing something big.
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/ (https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/07/22/report-mookie-betts-closing-in-on-monster-extension-with-the-dodgers/)
Boston radio station WEEI and Lou Merloni are reporting that Mookie Betts, one of the biggest stars in the game, will not hit free agency this offseason as expected, and will re-up with the Dodgers on a 10-year deal worth something in the $350 to $400 million range “within the next couple days.”
If he was going to do that, why didn't he do it here?!
pouts!
LA is more friendly to people of color? Just a guess.
Could be but LA has a history of very strained race relations as well. And far more violent than anything experienced in Boston.
You may not he old enough to recall, or suffer from selective amnesia, but LA burned in the Watts riots in '65 , and the Rodney King riots in '92, and more recently the riots surrounding the George Floyd murder.
Lotta angry people out there.
Seeing as Mookie has mosltly experienced LA in quarantine and isolation, and given covid-19 is now revisting LA with a vengenance, Mookie might not meet his next door neighbor for months. So he might have to wait on judging the friendliness of LA for awhile.
I'm guessing he signed for money and forever security.
But the players say they don't want to play in Boston, which has nothing to do with Rodney King, and everything to do with the bigots in the stands at Fenway.
Nice try at deflection, though.
No deflection at all. As you seemed to believe that LA was a friendly local for a man of color, I gave you a brief refresher course in LA's riot-scarred history of race relations over the past few decades.
You're welcome.
And as you have no idea what Mookie's motivations were I'd suggest a 14 year deal worth some $380 million is as likely a motivator as a friendly neighbor he has yet to meet.
NEW YORK (AP) — Taking a chance to review instant replay, Major League Baseball doubled the isolated cameras available for video reviews to 24 this year.
MLB also arranged for high-frame rate cameras to stream directly to the new replay operations center and ballpark video rooms, and for MLB-controlled 4K cameras with zoom lenses to be installed at high locations behind home plate.
A new replay hub about twice the size of the old one was constructed as part of the move of Major League Baseball and MLB Advanced Media to a combined office space in Manhattan, across the street from Radio City Music Hall.
“We think that the product of all these items is going to result in a much more rapid review process, so that we’ll be getting video available much more quickly to the umpires, who will be making decision more quickly,” Chris Marinak, MLB executive vice president of strategy, technology and innovation, said Monday. “The same will be true of the replay personnel in the ballpark, who are helping their manager make a decision on whether to challenge.”
Each manager will have 20 seconds to decide whether to ask for a video review of a call subject to a challenge, down from 30.
https://apnews.com/0fce0b88dade1af5e131fada8308d414 (https://apnews.com/0fce0b88dade1af5e131fada8308d414)
More cameras, less time to look before making a decision to challenge.
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1286042491171504130 (https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1286042491171504130)
Jeff Passan tweets
Outfielder Mookie Betts and the Los Angeles Dodgers are in agreement on a 12-year, $365 million contract extension, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN. Combined with the one-year, $27 million deal he’s currently under, the total is 13 years and $392 million.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-regular-season-home-pittsburgh-1.5639983
Not Pittsburgh.
Players prefer not Buffalo.
60 game road trip seems like a bad idea.
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1286042491171504130 (https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1286042491171504130)
Jeff Passan tweets
Outfielder Mookie Betts and the Los Angeles Dodgers are in agreement on a 12-year, $365 million contract extension, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN. Combined with the one-year, $27 million deal he’s currently under, the total is 13 years and $392 million.
It will have to do.
https://twitter.com/abigailmarone/status/1286351366894518272Wrong thread for this post. But it'll be idiotic wherever it winds up.
Joe Biden destroyed millions of Black American lives
says the tweet
SOTO out
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
I wonder if Biden has it in him to throw something resembling a strike from ~ 55-60" maybe the O's could ask him to drop by.
I wonder if Biden has it in him to throw something resembling a strike from ~ 55-60" maybe the O's could ask him to drop by.
Except his team is Philadelphia, about 30 minutes from his Delaware home.
I wonder if Biden has it in him to throw something resembling a strike from ~ 55-60" maybe the O's could ask him to drop by.
Except his team is Philadelphia, about 30 minutes from his Delaware home.
Didn't know Joe was a Phillies fan-maybe they can get him out of the basement and grab a little fresh air.
Well...they're catchers. They catch things!
https://sports.yahoo.com/braves-lose-both-their-catchers-hours-before-opening-day-because-of-coronavirus-symptoms-163005338.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/braves-lose-both-their-catchers-hours-before-opening-day-because-of-coronavirus-symptoms-163005338.html)
Braves lose both their catchers hours before opening day because of coronavirus symptoms.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/indians-wear-road-uniforms-with-cleveland-on-the-chest-on-opening-day-as-team-name-discussions-continue (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/indians-wear-road-uniforms-with-cleveland-on-the-chest-on-opening-day-as-team-name-discussions-continue)
The Cleveland Indians hosted their Opening Day game against the Kansas City Royals on Thursday. Beyond the lack of crowd, there was one other noticeable change going on in Cleveland's ball park: the home team was wearing their road uniforms.
This change was a conscious decision that the team made in support of those pushing for the ball club to go away from the team's current name, the Indians. Team owner Paul Dolan met with manager Terry Francona this week to discuss the potential change.
Cleveland's road uniforms have a dark blue top with the block letters "Cleveland" across the chest in red. In contrast, the home uniforms have white tops, and the block letters say "Indians."
It seems the "Indians" have played their last game.
Joe Girardi watch has begun in Philly.
Joe Girardi watch has begun in Philly.
They must have Grady Little syndrome, huh?
Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.....
As long as the books dont show a much greater loss he'll be OK.
Businessman - not baseball man.
As long as the books dont show a much greater loss he'll be OK.
Businessman - not baseball man.
I haven't read where the chain broke-ie who decided to let the players make the medical call to play despite being infected.
You havent read anything, including the stuff you posted like gospel.
Former Cleveland Indians manager John McNamara, well known for his excellence in managing late game defensive replacements, has died.
Former Cleveland Indians manager John McNamara, well known for his excellence in managing late game defensive replacements, has died.
RIP Johnny Mac
"Thanks to the new extra-inning rule, LA beat Houston on a leadoff 2-run homer in the 13th."
Former Cleveland Indians manager John McNamara, well known for his excellence in managing late game defensive replacements, has died.
RIP Johnny Mac
He let Buckner take the hits from the rabid Bostonians looking for a scapegoat in '86.
A good manager would have taken the blame himself for blowing that Series.
Former Cleveland Indians manager John McNamara, well known for his excellence in managing late game defensive replacements, has died.
RIP Johnny Mac
He let Buckner take the hits from the rabid Bostonians looking for a scapegoat in '86.
A good manager would have taken the blame himself for blowing that Series.
I'm giving this "season" another two weeks.Yep.
Postponement streak is up to 6 games in Philly. Anyone know the record for most games postponed in a row in MLB history?
And here come the Cardinals to try to make their own mark:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html)
Postponement streak is up to 6 games in Philly. Anyone know the record for most games postponed in a row in MLB history?
And here come the Cardinals to try to make their own mark:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html)
Clearly a different or additional playoff system need to happen for the teams that play the fewest games or have the fewest available players. Like the old 3 on 3 types of contests! Pitcher, catcher, fielder.
Postponement streak is up to 6 games in Philly. Anyone know the record for most games postponed in a row in MLB history?
And here come the Cardinals to try to make their own mark:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html)
Clearly a different or additional playoff system need to happen for the teams that play the fewest games or have the fewest available players. Like the old 3 on 3 types of contests! Pitcher, catcher, fielder.
They are exploring playing either two 7-inning games or one 9-inning game and one 7-inning game for make-up doubleheaders.
But they may end up playing home run derby. Your best pitcher who is still healthy vs our best hitter who is still healthy.
Postponement streak is up to 6 games in Philly. Anyone know the record for most games postponed in a row in MLB history?
And here come the Cardinals to try to make their own mark:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html)
Clearly a different or additional playoff system need to happen for the teams that play the fewest games or have the fewest available players. Like the old 3 on 3 types of contests! Pitcher, catcher, fielder.
They are exploring playing either two 7-inning games or one 9-inning game and one 7-inning game for make-up doubleheaders.
But they may end up playing home run derby. Your best pitcher who is still healthy vs our best hitter who is still healthy.
7-inning double-headers were approved yesterday by the MLB and the players union.
I understand they will be separate non-admission double-headers
good question about the string of postponements.
IIRC Game 6 of the '75 WS was delayed by 3 days of rain
And after the 9-11 attack I think games were postponed for a week.
in any case there wil be no escaping the *this year.
10 day earth quake delay in 1989 World Series. 3 straight postponements in 1962 World Series. Both times in San Francisco...Postponement streak is up to 6 games in Philly. Anyone know the record for most games postponed in a row in MLB history?
And here come the Cardinals to try to make their own mark:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html)
Clearly a different or additional playoff system need to happen for the teams that play the fewest games or have the fewest available players. Like the old 3 on 3 types of contests! Pitcher, catcher, fielder.
They are exploring playing either two 7-inning games or one 9-inning game and one 7-inning game for make-up doubleheaders.
But they may end up playing home run derby. Your best pitcher who is still healthy vs our best hitter who is still healthy.
7-inning double-headers were approved yesterday by the MLB and the players union.
I understand they will be separate non-admission double-headers
good question about the string of postponements.
IIRC Game 6 of the '75 WS was delayed by 3 days of rain
And after the 9-11 attack I think games were postponed for a week.
in any case there wil be no escaping the *this year.
10 day earth quake delay in 1989 World Series. 3 straight postponements in 1962 World Series. Both times in San Francisco...Postponement streak is up to 6 games in Philly. Anyone know the record for most games postponed in a row in MLB history?
And here come the Cardinals to try to make their own mark:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/sports/baseball/cardinals-twins-coronavirus-mlb.html)
Clearly a different or additional playoff system need to happen for the teams that play the fewest games or have the fewest available players. Like the old 3 on 3 types of contests! Pitcher, catcher, fielder.
They are exploring playing either two 7-inning games or one 9-inning game and one 7-inning game for make-up doubleheaders.
But they may end up playing home run derby. Your best pitcher who is still healthy vs our best hitter who is still healthy.
7-inning double-headers were approved yesterday by the MLB and the players union.
I understand they will be separate non-admission double-headers
good question about the string of postponements.
IIRC Game 6 of the '75 WS was delayed by 3 days of rain
And after the 9-11 attack I think games were postponed for a week.
in any case there wil be no escaping the *this year.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/rob-manfred-warns-2020-mlb-season-could-shut-down-without-improvement-in-covid-19-containment-per-report/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/rob-manfred-warns-2020-mlb-season-could-shut-down-without-improvement-in-covid-19-containment-per-report/)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2020/07/31/rob-manfred-mlb-2020-season-covid-19-coronavirus/5559458002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2020/07/31/rob-manfred-mlb-2020-season-covid-19-coronavirus/5559458002/)
Manfred is positioning to blame the players for MLB shutting down, which it will within a week.
QuoteJose Altuve, Alex Bregman and George Springer are hitting a combined .184 with a .677 OPS to start the season.[/size]
Turns out hitting is way easier when you know what is coming.QuoteQuoteJose Altuve, Alex Bregman and George Springer are hitting a combined .184 with a .677 OPS to start the season.[/size]
Turns out hitting is way easier when you know what is coming.QuoteQuoteJose Altuve, Alex Bregman and George Springer are hitting a combined .184 with a .677 OPS to start the season.[/size]
https://www.newser.com/story/294661/pitcher-got-lethal-fentanyl-from-team-employee-charges.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top
Tyler Skaggs' death may have been from fentanyl he got from a non-medical professional with the team.
https://www.newser.com/story/294661/pitcher-got-lethal-fentanyl-from-team-employee-charges.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top
Tyler Skaggs' death may have been from fentanyl he got from a non-medical professional with the team.
Hardly engenders empathy, when one is so stupid.
https://www.newser.com/story/294661/pitcher-got-lethal-fentanyl-from-team-employee-charges.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top
Tyler Skaggs' death may have been from fentanyl he got from a non-medical professional with the team.
Hardly engenders empathy, when one is so stupid.
I agree.
But I have even less sympathy for Eric Prescott Kay.
I have some for the other folks that Kay sold to, as I suspect that their lives are all about to be taking a sudden turn. OTOH, perhaps it will save their lives.
Or when one has Trumpian levels of personal empathy. With opiod addiction, "stupidity" is usually not the issue.https://www.newser.com/story/294661/pitcher-got-lethal-fentanyl-from-team-employee-charges.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top
Tyler Skaggs' death may have been from fentanyl he got from a non-medical professional with the team.
Hardly engenders empathy, when one is so stupid.
Tyler Skaggs' death may have been from fentanyl he got from a non-medical professional with the team.Technically he aspirated his own vomit. He had oxycodine and alcohol in his system as well.
... and from CHI-NA.
Boone continues to have his head up his ass by bringing Holder out again.
I see Horace Clarke died last week. I am reminded of the poster on the old NYT fora from India who talked of his love for the greats of Yankees past "and especial Horace Clarke" with great Yankee fans like puddinhead6 on one rainy NE Ohio Saturday when I was really bored and felt like dicking around.
RIP Horace. One of my favorite Yankees from my favorite Yankee era.
Well, that was the joke in "O. P. Chandrashekar" referring to him as a Yankee fan.I see Horace Clarke died last week. I am reminded of the poster on the old NYT fora from India who talked of his love for the greats of Yankees past "and especial Horace Clarke" with great Yankee fans like puddinhead6 on one rainy NE Ohio Saturday when I was really bored and felt like dicking around.
RIP Horace. One of my favorite Yankees from my favorite Yankee era.
Amen.
Kenney
Clark
Sanchez
Blomberg
Michael
Hansen
The wonder days of Yankee infielders
(but Puddinhead would love it if I reminded you - he's a Mets fan)
Indians option Cleavinger and Plesac for Trumpish behavior.
Pivoting away from the problem doesn't solve it, banks.
You'd rather talk about the Mets than the fact that the Sox abandon minorities on their "team", leaving them on an island of despair and discomfort.
SSDD
Pivoting away from the problem doesn't solve it, banks.
You'd rather talk about the Mets than the fact that the Sox abandon minorities on their "team", leaving them on an island of despair and discomfort.
SSDD
Betts left for the cash, pure and simple
No other reason, number one.
These things have a way of catching up to an organization.
Statement win today:
https://mobile.twitter.com/home (https://mobile.twitter.com/home)
https://mobile.twitter.com/home (https://mobile.twitter.com/home)
Was there a particular reason you wanted me to look at my own Twitter page?!
https://mobile.twitter.com/home (https://mobile.twitter.com/home)
Was there a particular reason you wanted me to look at my own Twitter page?!
Should have linked you to Ken Rosenthal and his tweet about Trevor Rosenthal going to the Pads.
Sox trade Mitchy 2-bags for infielder Hudson Potts and outfielder Jeisson Rosario.[/b]
Sox trade Mitchy 2-bags for infielder Hudson Potts and outfielder Jeisson Rosario.[/b]
I'll miss him, for all that I will enjoy seeing Chavis more than we did.
Are they any good, Banks?
heh
https://mobile.twitter.com/jaysonst/status/1300611564345712641 (https://mobile.twitter.com/jaysonst/status/1300611564345712641)
Workman needed the work.
Real as in potential top shelf players or real is an "not Sidd Finch"?heh
which part of the post made you "heh" kid?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/08/30/sports/red-sox-trade-mitch-moreland-padres/ (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/08/30/sports/red-sox-trade-mitch-moreland-padres/)
this has some info on the two prospects-although its not as funny as my post
heh
In Potts and Rosario, the team believes it accomplished that, acquiring players who one N.L. evaluator described as “two real prospects.”
One no average, one no power = 2 stiffs
You have to at least get one arm in that deal if you are Sox
For the Padres: A
The Padres have one of the best offenses in baseball, but it's been relatively weak at designated hitter. That's where Moreland, who bears a 1.177 OPS and eight home runs, figures to slot in. To boot, he has a $3 million club option that could keep him in San Diego next year.
Both Rosario and Potts are legitimate prospects, but neither was among the best of San Diego's loaded system. So as win-now trades go, this is a good one.
For the Red Sox: A
Though neither Rosario nor Potts placed highly in San Diego, they now rank as Boston's No. 16 and 20 prospects on MLB.com.
That's a good haul for Moreland, and one that the Red Sox were right to pursue. Though they could have kept him through 2021, his up-and-down nature gave them a good excuse to sell high.
TOM SEAVER
RIP
https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/mlb/mets/2020/09/02/tom-seaver-ny-mets-legend-dead-covid-dementia-complications/5699265002/ (https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/mlb/mets/2020/09/02/tom-seaver-ny-mets-legend-dead-covid-dementia-complications/5699265002/)
Tom Seaver, arguably the greatest New York Met ever, died early Monday at age 75, per multiple reports.
Tom Seaver died today. So terribly sad.
TOM SEAVER
RIP
https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/mlb/mets/2020/09/02/tom-seaver-ny-mets-legend-dead-covid-dementia-complications/5699265002/ (https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/mlb/mets/2020/09/02/tom-seaver-ny-mets-legend-dead-covid-dementia-complications/5699265002/)
Tom Seaver, arguably the greatest New York Met ever, died early Monday at age 75, per multiple reports.
The Trump Virus claims another victim.TOM SEAVER
RIP
https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/mlb/mets/2020/09/02/tom-seaver-ny-mets-legend-dead-covid-dementia-complications/5699265002/ (https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/mlb/mets/2020/09/02/tom-seaver-ny-mets-legend-dead-covid-dementia-complications/5699265002/)
Tom Seaver, arguably the greatest New York Met ever, died early Monday at age 75, per multiple reports.
Seaver passed peacefully in his sleep of complications of Lewy body dementia and COVID-19.
I guess there are no newspapers in Philly worth reading. But i wouldn't know as I don't waste my time searching for shit to troll others with.
In any case.
But he Seaver) also pitched the final games of his career for the Boston Red Sox in 1986. And if he hadn’t hurt his knee in Toronto in late September, he would have started Game 4 of the World Series against the Mets instead of Al Nipper. With Seaver in the rotation, I believe the Red Sox would have won that haunting World Series.
For a team-up 2-1, playing at home in Game 4, having Seaver, a tested WS veteran, and who had pitched pretty well for the Sox, (3.80 ERA) would have been an big upgrade over Nipper, who pitched to a 5.38 ERA in '86, and was making his post-season debut.
That doesn't seem a wild speculation about Seaver or the '86 series.
I guess there are no newspapers in Philly worth reading. But i wouldn't know as I don't waste my time searching for shit to troll others with.
In any case.
But he Seaver) also pitched the final games of his career for the Boston Red Sox in 1986. And if he hadn’t hurt his knee in Toronto in late September, he would have started Game 4 of the World Series against the Mets instead of Al Nipper. With Seaver in the rotation, I believe the Red Sox would have won that haunting World Series.
For a team-up 2-1, playing at home in Game 4, having Seaver, a tested WS veteran, and who had pitched pretty well for the Sox, (3.80 ERA) would have been an big upgrade over Nipper, who pitched to a 5.38 ERA in '86, and was making his post-season debut.
That doesn't seem a wild speculation about Seaver or the '86 series.
Defending the continued whining from 1986.
Too fucking funny!!!
Red Sox fans are the losingest team in all of MLB.
Still losing.
Ernie Broglio
Milt Pappas was an excellent pitcher.
MLB today had a discussion on Seaver and Brock, discussing how linked their careers were, noting among other things that nobody pitched to Brock more often than Seaver and nobody hit against Seaver more than Brock.
I could not quickly find what batter/pitcher combination had happened most frequently.
Anybody have a good way to find that?
Mine was an inherited from my dad Bobby Shantz glove.Ernie Broglio
My Macgregor "Ernie Broglio" glove was probably my most important possession from age 9-13
WTF is going on with the Ys?
I saw they were up 6-2 against the Buffalo BJs and figured game over.
But the BJS put up a 10 spot.
This last 3 weeks they can't get out of their own way.
They were huge favorites to meet the LADs in the WS, and they might, but WTF is going on?
I may have to start paying attention and swap the Sox for schadenfreude.
Checking in on my adopted NL team Philadelphia today (Nola on the hill, Realmuto back)
Miami 28-26
Philly 27-27
Who'd have thought?
It looks like Grady Little Syndrome has kicked in again at Fenway as Ron Roenicke is let go. Ron wasn't as good a cheater, it seems, as CHEATING CORA:
“As manager, he showed poise and leadership in navigating an extremely challenging year. We are grateful for all of his contributions in our uniform.”
Roenicke replaced Cora in February after Cora and Boston split following MLB’s report on the Astros’ cheating during the 2017 season, when Cora was Houston’s bench coach. Roenicke had previously served as bench coach under Cora. Cora was later banned by MLB for one season.
Multiple reporters added fuel to Cora’s potential return on Twitter Sunday. MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reports Red Sox ownership “was among [Cora’s] biggest supporters. So do not rule out a return.”
Yep. They love to cheat up there in New England.
Cora really should have been banned for life, but I guess his Boston connections saved his ass.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/ (https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/)
It looks like Grady Little Syndrome has kicked in again at Fenway as Ron Roenicke is let go. Ron wasn't as good a cheater, it seems, as CHEATING CORA:
“As manager, he showed poise and leadership in navigating an extremely challenging year. We are grateful for all of his contributions in our uniform.”
Roenicke replaced Cora in February after Cora and Boston split following MLB’s report on the Astros’ cheating during the 2017 season, when Cora was Houston’s bench coach. Roenicke had previously served as bench coach under Cora. Cora was later banned by MLB for one season.
Multiple reporters added fuel to Cora’s potential return on Twitter Sunday. MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reports Red Sox ownership “was among [Cora’s] biggest supporters. So do not rule out a return.”
Yep. They love to cheat up there in New England.
Cora really should have been banned for life, but I guess his Boston connections saved his ass.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/ (https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/)
Roenicke's firing was predicted in the middle of the 6-18 start and it is well earned.
But you knew that.
It looks like Grady Little Syndrome has kicked in again at Fenway as Ron Roenicke is let go. Ron wasn't as good a cheater, it seems, as CHEATING CORA:
“As manager, he showed poise and leadership in navigating an extremely challenging year. We are grateful for all of his contributions in our uniform.”
Roenicke replaced Cora in February after Cora and Boston split following MLB’s report on the Astros’ cheating during the 2017 season, when Cora was Houston’s bench coach. Roenicke had previously served as bench coach under Cora. Cora was later banned by MLB for one season.
Multiple reporters added fuel to Cora’s potential return on Twitter Sunday. MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reports Red Sox ownership “was among [Cora’s] biggest supporters. So do not rule out a return.”
Yep. They love to cheat up there in New England.
Cora really should have been banned for life, but I guess his Boston connections saved his ass.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/ (https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/)
Roenicke's firing was predicted in the middle of the 6-18 start and it is well earned.
But you knew that.
Because the plan was to bring the better cheater back to Cheatsville?
Could be.Meanwhile, Josh, you might want to tell your little puppy dog to go shit somewhere else.
This is where we discuss baseball.
Well put: "Goodbye to baseball in Boston for 2020. It is not a fond farewell."
https://www.sunjournal.com/2020/09/27/on-baseball-cant-blame-mookie-trade-for-all-this-mess/ (https://www.sunjournal.com/2020/09/27/on-baseball-cant-blame-mookie-trade-for-all-this-mess/)
It looks like Grady Little Syndrome has kicked in again at Fenway as Ron Roenicke is let go. Ron wasn't as good a cheater, it seems, as CHEATING CORA:
“As manager, he showed poise and leadership in navigating an extremely challenging year. We are grateful for all of his contributions in our uniform.”
Roenicke replaced Cora in February after Cora and Boston split following MLB’s report on the Astros’ cheating during the 2017 season, when Cora was Houston’s bench coach. Roenicke had previously served as bench coach under Cora. Cora was later banned by MLB for one season.
Multiple reporters added fuel to Cora’s potential return on Twitter Sunday. MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reports Red Sox ownership “was among [Cora’s] biggest supporters. So do not rule out a return.”
Yep. They love to cheat up there in New England.
Cora really should have been banned for life, but I guess his Boston connections saved his ass.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/ (https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/)
Roenicke's firing was predicted in the middle of the 6-18 start and it is well earned.
But you knew that.
Because the plan was to bring the better cheater back to Cheatsville?
Could be.Meanwhile, Josh, you might want to tell your little puppy dog to go shit somewhere else.
This is where we discuss baseball.
If only you practiced what you preach, Ham.
It looks like Grady Little Syndrome has kicked in again at Fenway as Ron Roenicke is let go. Ron wasn't as good a cheater, it seems, as CHEATING CORA:
“As manager, he showed poise and leadership in navigating an extremely challenging year. We are grateful for all of his contributions in our uniform.”
Roenicke replaced Cora in February after Cora and Boston split following MLB’s report on the Astros’ cheating during the 2017 season, when Cora was Houston’s bench coach. Roenicke had previously served as bench coach under Cora. Cora was later banned by MLB for one season.
Multiple reporters added fuel to Cora’s potential return on Twitter Sunday. MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reports Red Sox ownership “was among [Cora’s] biggest supporters. So do not rule out a return.”
Yep. They love to cheat up there in New England.
Cora really should have been banned for life, but I guess his Boston connections saved his ass.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/ (https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/alex-cora-speculation-begins-after-red-sox-fire-ron-roenicke/)
Roenicke's firing was predicted in the middle of the 6-18 start and it is well earned.
But you knew that.
Because the plan was to bring the better cheater back to Cheatsville?
Could be.Meanwhile, Josh, you might want to tell your little puppy dog to go shit somewhere else.
This is where we discuss baseball.
If only you practiced what you preach, Ham.
Said the pot to the kettle.
So the Marlins have a good chance, then, based on the latitude theory. Got it.
And there, I thought you were a baseball fan, not a spectacle fan.
I found the games exciting that I watched yesterday, despite the piped in noise.
And there, I thought you were a baseball fan, not a spectacle fan.
I found the games exciting that I watched yesterday, despite the piped in noise.
Your desperation is noted.
And there, I thought you were a baseball fan, not a spectacle fan.
I found the games exciting that I watched yesterday, despite the piped in noise.
Your desperation is noted.
Your failure to comprehend other humans' emotions is noted, yet again.
I am sorry that it takes other people watching for you to derive pleasure from the game.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30078282/hall-famer-whitey-ford-new-york-yankees-all-wins-leader-dies-age-91 (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30078282/hall-famer-whitey-ford-new-york-yankees-all-wins-leader-dies-age-91)My youth is dropping like flies, or rather, fly balls withing the general area of Glenallen Hill.
Whitey Ford, a Hall of Famer for the New York Yankees who won more World Series games than any other pitcher, died at the age of 91, the Yankees announced Friday.
RIP Chairman of the Board
They just don't nickname players "Whitey", anymore.I was watching the original Seven Days in May not too long ago and noted that Kirk Douglas's character was nicknamed "Jiggs" and I thought, nope.
Few better movie actors than Frederic March.
Chapman Chokes.
Mr. Boone could be gone.
Chapman Chokes.
Mr. Boone could be gone.
Grady Little Syndrome, huh?
I'd like to think that managers would be given a break because of the weirdness of the season, but I'm not sure that sentiment is one that owners have.
I'd like to think that managers would be given a break because of the weirdness of the season, but I'm not sure that sentiment is one that owners have.
If anybody has any interest in Stanton (I hear all sorts of laughter) they're welcome to him.
How many years u got left with the duo?
I do think they should let Boone chime in if they are thinking of dealing one of them, rather than just firing him.
How many years u got left with the duo?
I do think they should let Boone chime in if they are thinking of dealing one of them, rather than just firing him.
And now Joe Morgan.
And now Joe Morgan.
If I were a former baseball start in my 70s, I am not sure I would go anywhere without my physician.
Fixed.And now Joe Morgan.
If I were a former baseball start in my 70s, I am not sure I would go anywhere without my physician.
Black ballplayers getting it worse. Brock, Gibson, Morgan.
RIP, Joe, the best all-around second baseman we will likely see in our lifetimes, other than Roberto Alomar.
Fixed.And now Joe Morgan.
If I were a former baseball start in my 70s, I am not sure I would go anywhere without my physician.
Black ballplayers getting it worse. Brock, Gibson, Morgan.
RIP, Joe, the best all-around second baseman we will likely see in our lifetimes, other than Roberto Alomar.
You forgot the spit on an umpire thing.Fixed.And now Joe Morgan.
If I were a former baseball start in my 70s, I am not sure I would go anywhere without my physician.
Black ballplayers getting it worse. Brock, Gibson, Morgan.
RIP, Joe, the best all-around second baseman we will likely see in our lifetimes, other than Roberto Alomar.
RIP, Joe, the best all-around second baseman we will likely see in our lifetimes, who never used PEDs, never quit on the team (see: Alomar, NYMets), or beat his wife. Clarified.
Fixed.And now Joe Morgan.
If I were a former baseball start in my 70s, I am not sure I would go anywhere without my physician.
Black ballplayers getting it worse. Brock, Gibson, Morgan.
RIP, Joe, the best all-around second baseman we will likely see in our lifetimes, other than Roberto Alomar.
RIP, Joe, the best all-around second baseman we will likely see in our lifetimes, who never used PEDs, never quit on the team (see: Alomar, NYMets), or beat his wife. Clarified.
Fixed.And now Joe Morgan.
If I were a former baseball start in my 70s, I am not sure I would go anywhere without my physician.
Black ballplayers getting it worse. Brock, Gibson, Morgan.
RIP, Joe, the best all-around second baseman we will likely see in our lifetimes, other than Roberto Alomar.
RIP, Joe, the best all-around second baseman we will likely see in our lifetimes, who never used PEDs, never quit on the team (see: Alomar, NYMets), or beat his wife. Clarified.
Morgan took "greenies".
Now THIS I did not know about:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-04-30-me-1104-story.html
Manuel Margot's big Game 2
Manuel Margot slugs a three-run homer and makes an outstanding catch on a foul ball in right field in a big Game 2 performanc
The one that got away, Sox fans.
Heh
If only the plan was to keep Betts and Jackie blossomed you would have a point.
Larry posted about Margot in spring of 2019.
Margot Robbie.
I see Dusty avoided getting dusted. Maybe I will watch game 5.
Talk this morning of TONY LARUSSA returning to manage the White Sox, 35 years after he departed.
And of CORA returning to Boston.
I see Dusty avoided getting dusted. Maybe I will watch game 5.
Talk this morning of TONY LARUSSA returning to manage the White Sox, 35 years after he departed.
And of CORA returning to Boston.
I see Dusty avoided getting dusted. Maybe I will watch game 5.
Talk this morning of TONY LARUSSA returning to manage the White Sox, 35 years after he departed.
And of CORA returning to Boston.
The Cora rumor was floated the same day they fired Roenicke. It would not be the worst idea they ever had. I understand he did a good job in his last MLB position.
Sox got one of the best closers in the game for a AA OF who was serially blocked in Boston.
Are you saying that after the Betts deal the Sox couldnt use Margot right now?
There was also a bit more to the deal.
Would he be blocked now in Boston or not?
Horrible trade. Padres got scooped by the Rays. Not sure why banks made it all about Boston. Must be like I said. He doesn't read well.
Horrible trade: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/12/sports/former-red-sox-prospect-manuel-margot-finally-puts-talent-display-tampa-bay/ (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/12/sports/former-red-sox-prospect-manuel-margot-finally-puts-talent-display-tampa-bay/)
Horrible post.
perhaps you should explain who made the horrible trade, and why it was horrible, as the article doesn't say that.
Horrible trade. Padres got scooped by the Rays. Not sure why banks made it all about Boston.
Horrible trade. Padres got scooped by the Rays. Not sure why banks made it all about Boston.
heh lol
Horrible trade. Padres got scooped by the Rays. Not sure why banks made it all about Boston.
heh lol
Banks has trouble with truth.
Now take it back over to Uno's forum, the both of you.
Now take it back over to Uno's forum, the both of you.
Will do.
Josh-perhaps you can set up a Red-specfic troll forum so you two guys can rag on each other and clean-up the Trump forum.
and we gotta Game 7
and we gotta Game 7
And that makes two of them!
We're getting our money's worth, at least!
And it was nice to see Mookie performing.
that half-inning was the epitome of what's wrong with baseball
3 walks
3 strikeouts
0 balls in play
0 baseball action
and we gotta Game 7
And that makes two of them!
We're getting our money's worth, at least!
And it was nice to see Mookie performing.
and we gotta Game 7
And that makes two of them!
We're getting our money's worth, at least!
And it was nice to see Mookie performing.
Okay, so I can't count.
and we gotta Game 7
And that makes two of them!
We're getting our money's worth, at least!
And it was nice to see Mookie performing.
Okay, so I can't count.
Prescient!
and we gotta Game 7
And that makes two of them!
We're getting our money's worth, at least!
And it was nice to see Mookie performing.
Okay, so I can't count.
Prescient!
Sure, I'll take credit for that.
Or as I was about to say, "Now we have two game 7s!"
its pretty cool how many great plays Mookie makes
its pretty cool how many great plays Mookie makes
Fun to watch, regardless of the uniform.
And this is a good game at the tail end of a good series.
Figured you'd be kind enough to describe it
Maybe I will catch it somewhere.
Sucks to be a Braves fan - but I am fine with that. heh.
heh
Yeah - big mistake by Riley.
I have to assume, without hearing analysis, that the CONTACT play was on.
No, the contact call would be a manager decision. I assume Bobby Cox wanted to be aggressive. (I also perhaps erroneously assume Bobby Cox is still the Atlanta manager.) The base runner on second would not have gone on contact and should never have been between the bases: either go to 3rd or back to 2nd.heh
Yeah - big mistake by Riley.
I have to assume, without hearing analysis, that the CONTACT play was on.
Well, THAT would be STUPID.
Bottom line Lonnie Smith feels better now..He blew the WS, but he was only ONE player who didn't know how to run the bases. Last night, we saw THREE players who fucked up in one play!
Braves blew the game, right there.
Go, Rays!
I think you are supposed to get in a rundown, to give the runner on 2nd a chance to advance.
I also think a contact play, for the runner on 2nd, does not involve a ball hit in front of him.
Not a good night for the Rays, though fortunately for them no matter how much they lose by, the next game starts 0-0.
Mr Roberts can at some point explain to Big Papi and the masses why he didn't use Buehler on customary 4 days restIn fairness, he kept calling his name but Buehler never answered.
Papi sort of tore his ex teammate a new one on Fox postgame last night.
(For the record, Frank Thomas and A Rod defended the LA manager).
Mr Roberts can at some point explain to Big Papi and the masses why he didn't use Buehler on customary 4 days rest
Papi sort of tore his ex teammate a new one on Fox postgame last night.
(For the record, Frank Thomas and A Rod defended the LA manager).
Who do you use for an interpreter when Ortiz is attempting to communicate.
Jeez - you racist fuck.
Dodgers, 2 games to 1.
Dodgers, 2 games to 1.
It's going at least 6 games.
This game is a dilly
No * tonight
This game is a dilly
No * tonight
A Double-dilly
I WAS WRONG THAT WAS A TWO ASTERISK GAME
**
pulling Snell was the play of the game
When I was a boy....
Remember when Luis Tiant threw like 165 pitchs in a complete game 4 win in '75 WS
we'll never see that again.
It was a 2020 season of unprecedented challenges for all involved -- right up until its final game, when the World Series champs' starting third baseman, Justin Turner, was pulled prior to the eighth inning after receiving the results of a positive COVID-19 test midgame.
Oh?
*
What did Manfred know and when did he know about the Justin Turner's smoking covid test?
I think he found out pre-game and that's when he started drinking.
As for a fine for Turner-for what, season's over, he was a civilian at that point.
And I'n being little facetious.
If there is a breach in covid protocol, and there obviously was, its on the Dodgers and MLB.
why was Turner still in the stadium an not in a safe quarantine area?
MLB fulfilled the contract, delivered the product and got paid, at that point, they could give a shit about player safety.
1 year suspension for Turner - or you are not near serious.Maybe something that has a chance in Hell of surviving review by an independent Arbitrator instead.
Maybe it is just me but I have a hard time conceptualizing 32 years between Championships * as a "drought".
Welcome back Alex.
I think the Sox were waiting for PA to turn blue.
from Jon Heyman
https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1324717318262411264 (https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1324717318262411264)
Breaking: Alex Cora is back as Red Sox manager
I thought the Cora news dump right after PA went blue was pretty funny
Whatever happened to that guy? He was like a supernova with the Red Sox, MVP and all. I don't believe I heard a word about him in 2020.
Whatever happened to that guy? He was like a supernova with the Red Sox, MVP and all. I don't believe I heard a word about him in 2020.
Fan for 45 years.
Flushing it - yep.
I think they should keep the invite open even if Joe should lose in the courts
For years of meritorious service to his ..ahem.....state.
NL ROY wins after playing only 27 innings. Fuck this era of baseball and its dependency on analytics. Dopes.
The show to date, is disturbing as hell in its portrayal of the cruelty and inhumanity, it probably makes Mike Pence hard, and Amy Coney Barrett giggle. but I digress.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2918439-theo-epstein-to-step-down-as-cubs-president-will-be-replaced-by-jed-hoyer?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Content warning:. Racism, violence
Heh
Sorry to spoil your party - I think 38 gets into the HOF soon.
Sorry to spoil your party - I think 38 gets into the HOF soon.
Given who else is in there with political foibles, it's hard to see a consistent reason to keep him out.
Not that I find the HoF voters to be especially consistent.
Sorry to spoil your party - I think 38 gets into the HOF soon.
Given who else is in there with political foibles, it's hard to see a consistent reason to keep him out.
Not that I find the HoF voters to be especially consistent.
And there's the rub. NO SPORTSWRITER should be involved with putting players in the HOF.
Especially those who can not see that putting someone as indecent a person, as bigoted, as racist, and as narcissistic as this one. The excuse of saying "given who else is in there" is just that. An excuse. There is no need to perpetuate mistakes that have been made in the past.
I'm sure there are far worse people than Curt Schilling in the HOF.
I'm sure there are far worse people than Curt Schilling in the HOF.
https://www.pitcherlist.com/why-curt-schilling-has-no-place-in-cooperstown/ (https://www.pitcherlist.com/why-curt-schilling-has-no-place-in-cooperstown/)Ty Cobb?
Excellent piece on why "Red-light" Schilling needs to be allowed by the BBWAA to fade to black. Unrepentant racists have no place in the HOF.
https://www.pitcherlist.com/why-curt-schilling-has-no-place-in-cooperstown/ (https://www.pitcherlist.com/why-curt-schilling-has-no-place-in-cooperstown/)Ty Cobb?
Excellent piece on why "Red-light" Schilling needs to be allowed by the BBWAA to fade to black. Unrepentant racists have no place in the HOF.
UNO reading baseball stuff from grad students now
heh
RIP Dick AllenA ton of talent.A shame he had to play in front of those racist fans in Philly in the 60'S
RIP Dick AllenA ton of talent.A shame he had to play in front of those racist fans in Philly in the 60'S
RIP Dick AllenA ton of talent.A shame he had to play in front of those racist fans in Philly in the 60'S
Dealin' Dave D reportedly Philly bound to run base ops.
Spiders seems to be the gaining traction on the internet
its got baseball history and the logo (above) is cool
Although I just read that some guy in DC front-ran the name last year and applied for a Cleveland Spiders trademark;
If the Cleveland Baseball Team (poetic-rolls off the tongue) can get around that issue, and go with Spiders,
I wonder if one of the legs hold a tomahawk?
Can't be in Filly. The Rock hall honors to many African Americans for a racist city like Philadelphia.Spiders seems to be the gaining traction on the internet
its got baseball history and the logo (above) is cool
Although I just read that some guy in DC front-ran the name last year and applied for a Cleveland Spiders trademark;
If the Cleveland Baseball Team (poetic-rolls off the tongue) can get around that issue, and go with Spiders,
I wonder if one of the legs hold a tomahawk?
I suggest, too...the Cleveland Rock, capitalizing on the RocknRoll Hall of Fame that really belongs in Philly.
You are correct sir😁😁Can't be in Filly. The Rock hall honors to many African Americans for a racist city like Philadelphia.Spiders seems to be the gaining traction on the internet
its got baseball history and the logo (above) is cool
Although I just read that some guy in DC front-ran the name last year and applied for a Cleveland Spiders trademark;
If the Cleveland Baseball Team (poetic-rolls off the tongue) can get around that issue, and go with Spiders,
I wonder if one of the legs hold a tomahawk?
I suggest, too...the Cleveland Rock, capitalizing on the RocknRoll Hall of Fame that really belongs in Philly.
While that cap is cool AF, I am not sure the Spiders have a historical record of success.
Can't be in Filly. The Rock hall honors to many African Americans for a racist city like Philadelphia.Spiders seems to be the gaining traction on the internet
its got baseball history and the logo (above) is cool
Although I just read that some guy in DC front-ran the name last year and applied for a Cleveland Spiders trademark;
If the Cleveland Baseball Team (poetic-rolls off the tongue) can get around that issue, and go with Spiders,
I wonder if one of the legs hold a tomahawk?
I suggest, too...the Cleveland Rock, capitalizing on the RocknRoll Hall of Fame that really belongs in Philly.
While that cap is cool AF, I am not sure the Spiders have a historical record of success.
Actually Cleveland got the Rock Hall because of tax breaks, money from local businesses, exposed, swollen government teat, the usual. Alan Freed was window dressing.Can't be in Filly. The Rock hall honors to many African Americans for a racist city like Philadelphia.Spiders seems to be the gaining traction on the internet
its got baseball history and the logo (above) is cool
Although I just read that some guy in DC front-ran the name last year and applied for a Cleveland Spiders trademark;
If the Cleveland Baseball Team (poetic-rolls off the tongue) can get around that issue, and go with Spiders,
I wonder if one of the legs hold a tomahawk?
I suggest, too...the Cleveland Rock, capitalizing on the RocknRoll Hall of Fame that really belongs in Philly.
While that cap is cool AF, I am not sure the Spiders have a historical record of success.
Isn't the reason Cleveland and rock n roll are associated is because Alan Freed a DJ, took payola to play RnR?
I think Memphis probably got rooked.
I heard the team soon to be nameless is holding on to the Indians until next year.
They still got stuff in inventory they got to move!
https://www.mlb.com/news/negro-leagues-given-major-league-status-for-baseball-records-stats (https://www.mlb.com/news/negro-leagues-given-major-league-status-for-baseball-records-stats)
Major League Baseball has long celebrated the legacy of the Negro Leagues. But for the first time, MLB is officially recognizing that the quality of the segregation-era circuits was comparable to its own product from that time period.
Addressing what MLB described as a “long overdue recognition,” Commissioner Rob Manfred on Wednesday bestowed Major League status upon seven professional Negro Leagues that operated between 1920 and 1948. The decision means that the approximately 3,400 players of the Negro Leagues during this time period are officially considered Major Leaguers, with their stats and records becoming a part of Major League history.
“All of us who love baseball have long known that the Negro Leagues produced many of our game’s best players, innovations and triumphs against a backdrop of injustice,” Manfred said in a statement. “We are now grateful to count the players of the Negro Leagues where they belong: as Major Leaguers within the official historical record.”
I'm not a Manfred fan, but this decision is a home-run.
Black records matter too.
as do CDs tapes and...
The impact could be sweeping. For example, Ted Williams has for eight decades been recognized as the last man to hit .400 in Major League Baseball. His .406 batting average for the Boston Red Sox in 1941 is a statistic permanently etched in the fabric of the sport, standing for generations as one of the pinnacles of athletic achievement.
However, Josh Gibson, the Hall-of-Fame catcher known for his time with the Homestead Grays, hit .441 in 1943, according to the Seamheads Negro League Database, a key source MLB used in reaching its decision. That means that Gibson not only tops Williams, but surpasses Hugh Duffy’s .440 for the 1894 Boston Beaneaters for the best ever.
---WSJ.com
The impact could be sweeping. For example, Ted Williams has for eight decades been recognized as the last man to hit .400 in Major League Baseball. His .406 batting average for the Boston Red Sox in 1941 is a statistic permanently etched in the fabric of the sport, standing for generations as one of the pinnacles of athletic achievement.
However, Josh Gibson, the Hall-of-Fame catcher known for his time with the Homestead Grays, hit .441 in 1943, according to the Seamheads Negro League Database, a key source MLB used in reaching its decision. That means that Gibson not only tops Williams, but surpasses Hugh Duffy’s .440 for the 1894 Boston Beaneaters for the best ever.
I think mashing the records together is a mistake.
Separate and equal may be the right answer.
There are AL records. NL records, MLB records, and Negro League records, recognize them all, but in a context that makes sense.
I'm all for analytical pursuits and closely examaning and comping stats. Its basically what I've done for decades.
I just think dumping the Negro League stats into the MLB stats is a poor methodology and in most cases will lead to irrelevant conclusions.
And Jamie Moyer was not in my opinion a Hall of Fame major league pitcher pitcher.
But rather a very old one
if you want to celebrate his age that's fine.
So send him a card.
There really isnt a case for Moyer
Tommy John.
Jamie Moyer was similar to Tom Glavine?
This is what you are going with?
Jamie Moyer was a good pitcher who had a unique back end to his career. Being great compared to other 45 year old pitchers is not the same as being great. At no time was he ever elite. He was never one of the 10 best pitchers in baseball. He does not deserve a plaque.
And when I think of baseball scribes drinking, the image that comes to mind is a dim-lit dive and with shots and beers. Not merlots, syrahs or cabs.
well maybe the one they are too drunk to hail after last call.
Hey Charlie, another round.
Wild Turkey pair well with a 3-2 extra inning nail-biter home town loss?
Or maybe a shot of Fireball, that SOB was bringing the heat tonight!
and Charlie pour one for yourself!
Yeah, give me those two. I can find a Jamie Moyer later.
probably Pedro
then Koufax
Pedro because of his relative longevity and excellence
YMMV
Yeah, give me those two. I can find a Jamie Moyer later.
If he's doesn't have NYE plans, he can proably give you a couple of innings tomorrow.
btw, the 3rd guy in Utleys FMK, was Kaat.
Need the era.
Pitcher 1 - on face.
For instance on Kaat - his ERA+ was just 1.08
(For the record, Moyer 1.03, one of the slight edges JK gets)
probably Pedro
then Koufax
Pedro because of his relative longevity and excellence
YMMV
See? You couldn't do it. You had to go look up WHO the stats were from. And not sure how "relative longevity" comes from Pedro?
probably Pedro
then Koufax
Pedro because of his relative longevity and excellence
YMMV
See? You couldn't do it. You had to go look up WHO the stats were from. And not sure how "relative longevity" comes from Pedro?
HEH
Did what?
forget what I knew?
I didn't need to look up stats.
When you mention Kaat a couple of days ago I looked at his stats, so the 3 pitchers you decided to comp were known.
Its not my fault you suck at presenting a persuasive argument.
probably Pedro
then Koufax
Pedro because of his relative longevity and excellence
YMMV
See? You couldn't do it. You had to go look up WHO the stats were from. And not sure how "relative longevity" comes from Pedro?
HEH
Did what?
forget what I knew?
I didn't need to look up stats.
When you mention Kaat a couple of days ago I looked at his stats, so the 3 pitchers you decided to comp were known.
Its not my fault you suck at presenting a persuasive argument.
I didn't make an argument. I posed a question to the group.
Most would understand the difference between an argument and a question.
But you? Maybe not.
Good work bozI edited because I realized who C was. I would have made.E C... C.
there's a tell on that question.
and E probably will be, but lets make it clear he's no Jamie Moyer!
Good work bozI think 3000 k gets you in, unless you are either a PED user or a raging asshole. Like C.
there's a tell on that question.
and E probably will be, but lets make it clear he's no Jamie Moyer!
3000Ks is a shit load, but Ks have gotten cheaper, a lot cheaper, over the past decade.V got his 3000th last year.
But the offset is starters are only going 6+ innings
I imagine Verlander and Scherzer are there or getting close
Maybe Bart Colon
3000Ks is a shit load, but Ks have gotten cheaper, a lot cheaper, over the past decade.V got his 3000th last year.
But the offset is starters are only going 6+ innings
I imagine Verlander and Scherzer are there or getting close
Maybe Bart Colon
As for the one I would most want, it would be the guy in the Hall. He was always a forget the E.R.A. stuff, watch him pitch guy.
Though if I could have just one year of any of their careers, give me A in 1968.
One of 7 pitchers in the 20/20 club. 20 wins and 20 losses in back to back years. Ah, life in the Land during the Curse.As for the one I would most want, it would be the guy in the Hall. He was always a forget the E.R.A. stuff, watch him pitch guy.
Though if I could have just one year of any of their careers, give me A in 1968.
That guy was an artist.
One of my favorite pitcher's ever.
IMO he's a HoF guy.
One of 7 pitchers in the 20/20 club. 20 wins and 20 losses in back to back years. Ah, life in the Land during the Curse.As for the one I would most want, it would be the guy in the Hall. He was always a forget the E.R.A. stuff, watch him pitch guy.
Though if I could have just one year of any of their careers, give me A in 1968.
That guy was an artist.
One of my favorite pitcher's ever.
IMO he's a HoF guy.
probably Pedro
then Koufax
Pedro because of his relative longevity and excellence
YMMV
See? You couldn't do it. You had to go look up WHO the stats were from. And not sure how "relative longevity" comes from Pedro?
HEH
Did what?
forget what I knew?
I didn't need to look up stats.
When you mention Kaat a couple of days ago I looked at his stats, so the 3 pitchers you decided to comp were known.
Its not my fault you suck at presenting a persuasive argument.
I didn't make an argument. I posed a question to the group.
Most would understand the difference between an argument and a question.
But you? Maybe not.
And I answered your question
Pedro, Koufax and then Kaat.
Utley you've been making an argument for Moyer for years.
and have persuaded no one.
a few days ago you promoted his artistry and charitable works and outstanding character as reasons to promote his HoF candidacy.
It was not a very strong argument for his case.
And you comped him to Kaat.
Katt as posted was a far better pitcher and a case can be made for him in the HoF.
I took your 1,2,3 comp as a rhetorical device to further your beliefs.
An ulterior motive as it were.
Which is fine.
But I answered your question.
Kaat was a pretty good pitcher, maybe a HoF pitcer, but he was not remotely as talented as Pedro or Koufax. He's not in the same discussion as those guys.
YMMV
And fwiw, in a small community that is populated mostly by reasonably knowledgable baseball fans many of whom watched baseball in the 60s, those stats were suffficent to ID Pedro and Koufax, two of the greatest pitchers ever.
again, YMMV
Good work bozI think 3000 k gets you in, unless you are either a PED user or a raging asshole. Like C.
there's a tell on that question.
and E probably will be, but lets make it clear he's no Jamie Moyer!
probably Pedro
then Koufax
Pedro because of his relative longevity and excellence
YMMV
See? You couldn't do it. You had to go look up WHO the stats were from. And not sure how "relative longevity" comes from Pedro?
HEH
Did what?
forget what I knew?
I didn't need to look up stats.
When you mention Kaat a couple of days ago I looked at his stats, so the 3 pitchers you decided to comp were known.
Its not my fault you suck at presenting a persuasive argument.
I didn't make an argument. I posed a question to the group.
Most would understand the difference between an argument and a question.
But you? Maybe not.
And I answered your question
Pedro, Koufax and then Kaat.
Utley you've been making an argument for Moyer for years.
and have persuaded no one.
a few days ago you promoted his artistry and charitable works and outstanding character as reasons to promote his HoF candidacy.
It was not a very strong argument for his case.
And you comped him to Kaat.
Katt as posted was a far better pitcher and a case can be made for him in the HoF.
I took your 1,2,3 comp as a rhetorical device to further your beliefs.
An ulterior motive as it were.
Which is fine.
But I answered your question.
Kaat was a pretty good pitcher, maybe a HoF pitcer, but he was not remotely as talented as Pedro or Koufax. He's not in the same discussion as those guys.
YMMV
And fwiw, in a small community that is populated mostly by reasonably knowledgable baseball fans many of whom watched baseball in the 60s, those stats were suffficent to ID Pedro and Koufax, two of the greatest pitchers ever.
again, YMMV
Some people have to work at missing out what's in front of them. But you don't. You miss things pretty much all the time.
SSDD
Good work bozI think 3000 k gets you in, unless you are either a PED user or a raging asshole. Like C.
there's a tell on that question.
and E probably will be, but lets make it clear he's no Jamie Moyer!
How about 4500 IP? Seems to me that should be a lock for the HOF. Sure, it doesn't have that joyous fascist ring to it that 3000 K's has as an individual accomplishment, but it sure means a helluvalot to the TEAM; preserving the pen, lengthening out the use of starting staff, adding value to the franchise, etc.
Which one is the Hall of Famer?The one who hit the dramatic World Series Home Run!
Player X WAR 36.5 AB 7755 H2016. HR138 BA.260
R769. RBI 853 SB 27
OBP.299 SLG .367 OPS.667 OPS+ 84
OR...Player Y WAR 68.2 AB 8058 H 2170 HR 126 BA.269
R 1338 RBI 885 SB 232 OBP .366 SLG .377 OPS .743 OPS+ 99
OR...Player Z. WAR 55.4 AB 8498 H 2461 HR 377 BA .290
R 1320 RBI 1518 SB 94 OBP .356 SLG.500 OPS .855 OPS+123
Which one is the Hall of Famer?The one who hit the dramatic World Series Home Run!
Player X WAR 36.5 AB 7755 H2016. HR138 BA.260
R769. RBI 853 SB 27
OBP.299 SLG .367 OPS.667 OPS+ 84
OR...Player Y WAR 68.2 AB 8058 H 2170 HR 126 BA.269
R 1338 RBI 885 SB 232 OBP .366 SLG .377 OPS .743 OPS+ 99
OR...Player Z. WAR 55.4 AB 8498 H 2461 HR 377 BA .290
R 1320 RBI 1518 SB 94 OBP .356 SLG.500 OPS .855 OPS+123
The Hall is not exclusively an offensive award.
Which one is the Hall of Famer?
Player X WAR 36.5 AB 7755 H2016. HR138 BA.260
R769. RBI 853 SB 27
OBP.299 SLG .367 OPS.667 OPS+ 84
OR...Player Y WAR 68.2 AB 8058 H 2170 HR 126 BA.269
R 1338 RBI 885 SB 232 OBP .366 SLG .377 OPS .743 OPS+ 99
OR...Player Z. WAR 55.4 AB 8498 H 2461 HR 377 BA .290
R 1320 RBI 1518 SB 94 OBP .356 SLG.500 OPS .855 OPS+123
Which one is the Hall of Famer?The one who hit the dramatic World Series Home Run!
Player X WAR 36.5 AB 7755 H2016. HR138 BA.260
R769. RBI 853 SB 27
OBP.299 SLG .367 OPS.667 OPS+ 84
OR...Player Y WAR 68.2 AB 8058 H 2170 HR 126 BA.269
R 1338 RBI 885 SB 232 OBP .366 SLG .377 OPS .743 OPS+ 99
OR...Player Z. WAR 55.4 AB 8498 H 2461 HR 377 BA .290
R 1320 RBI 1518 SB 94 OBP .356 SLG.500 OPS .855 OPS+123
The Hall is not exclusively an offensive award.
Which one is the Hall of Famer?The one who hit the dramatic World Series Home Run!
Player X WAR 36.5 AB 7755 H2016. HR138 BA.260
R769. RBI 853 SB 27
OBP.299 SLG .367 OPS.667 OPS+ 84
OR...Player Y WAR 68.2 AB 8058 H 2170 HR 126 BA.269
R 1338 RBI 885 SB 232 OBP .366 SLG .377 OPS .743 OPS+ 99
OR...Player Z. WAR 55.4 AB 8498 H 2461 HR 377 BA .290
R 1320 RBI 1518 SB 94 OBP .356 SLG.500 OPS .855 OPS+123
The Hall is not exclusively an offensive award.
Actually X and Y are both in the Hall, while Z likely won't get in because unlike X and Y he didn't kiss the writers' fat, freeloading asses.
The real problem with the HALL of BASEBALL WRITERS FUCKING THINGS UP is that there are no standards for selection. NONE.
There are guidelines, but no standards.
Kind of like the way Trump hands out pardons. You get a pardon, and you get a pardon, and not you. You get in the Hall, and you, but not you.
Consider how Clemens and Bonds still might get in, but Manny Ramirez basically has no shot.
It's the same thing. The Hall of Bullshit.
And I am being kind.
The writers are the most objective, least conflicted, and most diverse voting body and you've never nominated another better process than 400 independent voices voting.
ASk Jim Rice about their "objective" nature and their "conflicted" nature and their "diverse voting body".
And I HAVE nominated a better process in the past, here, but I am not taking the time to go back and find it, since that was long ago and before this place had its technical revisions.
The FACT is that I nominated a process that clearly delineated a rubric for induction for each position on the field. If players knew exactly how to get in the Hall of Fame, it would be on them and their actual performance that got them in, not the same old bullshit that passes for "objectivity".
The comparison to Trump is that didn't use a legitimate process for his pardons, because they don't have a legitimate process for induction because they don't have any real standards for what makes a HOFer and what doesn't.
That's not debatable.
In the mean time...
I wish a happy new year to you and to yours, jackass.
Ozzie Smith was a solid offensive talent
The HOF simply has no true standards for admission; an irrefutable fact.
You know banks has had his ass kicked when he posts 3500 off topic words laced with insults regarding posters who aren't even in the conversation.
Heh
The HOF simply has no true standards for admission; an irrefutable fact.
The HOF simply has no true standards for admission; an irrefutable fact.
Which still doesn't obscure the fact that Jamie Moyer's record doesn't match up.
You know banks has had his ass kicked when he posts 3500 off topic words laced with insults regarding posters who aren't even in the conversation.
Heh
The HOF simply has no true standards for admission; an irrefutable fact.
Utley the reason you have posted under a few hundred different names is that I've kicked your ass under each one and you needed a new one.
And I need new shoes that aren't covered in troll dung and vomit.
You're just butt sore you got bested again in the same debate you insist on losing.
And no shit there is no standard, its up to 400 voters to decide on an individual basis to detemine whether a player is HoF worthy.
what standard would be applicable for a mediocre pitcher like Moyer to qualify for a Hall that extols excellence in the profession?
And fwiw the 5 guys I listed (1 Hof, 1 likely) were all vastly superior pitchers to Moyer.
And I had high hopes for 2021
SSDD
You know banks has had his ass kicked when he posts 3500 off topic words laced with insults regarding posters who aren't even in the conversation.
Heh
The HOF simply has no true standards for admission; an irrefutable fact.
Utley the reason you have posted under a few hundred different names is that I've kicked your ass under each one and you needed a new one.
And I need new shoes that aren't covered in troll dung and vomit.
You're just butt sore you got bested again in the same debate you insist on losing.
And no shit there is no standard, its up to 400 voters to decide on an individual basis to detemine whether a player is HoF worthy.
what standard would be applicable for a mediocre pitcher like Moyer to qualify for a Hall that extols excellence in the profession?
And fwiw the 5 guys I listed (1 Hof, 1 likely) were all vastly superior pitchers to Moyer.
And I had high hopes for 2021
SSDD
thanks for proving my point. You could just admit when you're so confused. Who said that standards would put Moyer in?
Not me.
That's on you. Seeing things that aren't there. Do you hear voices, too?
Lots of counsel for that in your area, Rich.
The HOF simply has no true standards for admission; an irrefutable fact.
Which still doesn't obscure the fact that Jamie Moyer's record doesn't match up.
Don't let others confuse you. Of course, you can't match up to a standard-less arbitrary system.
The HOF simply has no true standards for admission; an irrefutable fact.
Which still doesn't obscure the fact that Jamie Moyer's record doesn't match up.
Don't let others confuse you. Of course, you can't match up to a standard-less arbitrary system.
I responded on my own days ago with comparison stats that highlight that Moyer doesn't belong even in the somewhat but not totally arbitrary Hall.
And it's not totally arbitrary, even though you say it is.
The HOF simply has no true standards for admission; an irrefutable fact.
Which still doesn't obscure the fact that Jamie Moyer's record doesn't match up.
Don't let others confuse you. Of course, you can't match up to a standard-less arbitrary system.
The standard
2. Electors: Only active and honorary members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, who have been active baseball writers for at least ten (10) years, shall be eligible to vote. They must have been active as baseball writers and members of the Association for a period beginning at least ten (10) years prior to the date of election in which they are voting.
3. Eligible Candidates -- Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:
A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning fifteen (15) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.
B. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3(A).
C. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.
D. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.
E. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
4. Method of Election:
A. BBWAA Screening Committee -- A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.
B. An elector will vote for no more than ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.
C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election)
There is basically one standard- 10 years of MLB service.The standard
2. Electors: Only active and honorary members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, who have been active baseball writers for at least ten (10) years, shall be eligible to vote. They must have been active as baseball writers and members of the Association for a period beginning at least ten (10) years prior to the date of election in which they are voting.
3. Eligible Candidates -- Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:
A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning fifteen (15) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.
B. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3(A).
C. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.
D. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.
E. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
4. Method of Election:
A. BBWAA Screening Committee -- A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.
B. An elector will vote for no more than ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.
C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election)
Those are not standards. When I say standards, I am looking for an evaluation system that employs something similar to this:
Evaluation standards identify how the quality of an evaluation will be judged. They can be used when planning an evaluation as well as for meta-evaluation (evaluating the evaluation).
Many organizations have guidelines which address issues of quality and ethics together. For example, the UNDP (United Nations Development Programme) Norms for Evaluation state that evaluation in UNDP should be:
Independent — Management must not impose restrictions on the scope, content, comments and recommendations of evaluation reports. Evaluators must be free of conflict of interest.
Intentional — The rationale for an evaluation and the decisions to be based on it should be clear from the outset.
Transparent — Meaningful consultation with stakeholders is essential for the credibility and utility of the evaluation.
Ethical — Evaluation should not reflect personal or sectoral interests. Evaluators must have professional integrity, respect the rights of institutions and individuals to provide information in confidence, and be sensitive to the beliefs and customs of local social and cultural environments.
Impartial — Removing bias and maximizing objectivity are critical for the credibility of the evaluation and its contribution to knowledge.
b) Moyer definitely does not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame and there is no effective argument available to you.
Saberhagen more deserving
There is basically one standard- 10 years of MLB service.The standard
2. Electors: Only active and honorary members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, who have been active baseball writers for at least ten (10) years, shall be eligible to vote. They must have been active as baseball writers and members of the Association for a period beginning at least ten (10) years prior to the date of election in which they are voting.
3. Eligible Candidates -- Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:
A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning fifteen (15) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.
B. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3(A).
C. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.
D. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.
E. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
4. Method of Election:
A. BBWAA Screening Committee -- A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.
B. An elector will vote for no more than ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.
C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election)
Those are not standards. When I say standards, I am looking for an evaluation system that employs something similar to this:
Evaluation standards identify how the quality of an evaluation will be judged. They can be used when planning an evaluation as well as for meta-evaluation (evaluating the evaluation).
Many organizations have guidelines which address issues of quality and ethics together. For example, the UNDP (United Nations Development Programme) Norms for Evaluation state that evaluation in UNDP should be:
Independent — Management must not impose restrictions on the scope, content, comments and recommendations of evaluation reports. Evaluators must be free of conflict of interest.
Intentional — The rationale for an evaluation and the decisions to be based on it should be clear from the outset.
Transparent — Meaningful consultation with stakeholders is essential for the credibility and utility of the evaluation.
Ethical — Evaluation should not reflect personal or sectoral interests. Evaluators must have professional integrity, respect the rights of institutions and individuals to provide information in confidence, and be sensitive to the beliefs and customs of local social and cultural environments.
Impartial — Removing bias and maximizing objectivity are critical for the credibility of the evaluation and its contribution to knowledge.
There is basically one standard- 10 years of MLB service.The standard
2. Electors: Only active and honorary members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, who have been active baseball writers for at least ten (10) years, shall be eligible to vote. They must have been active as baseball writers and members of the Association for a period beginning at least ten (10) years prior to the date of election in which they are voting.
3. Eligible Candidates -- Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:
A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning fifteen (15) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.
B. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3(A).
C. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.
D. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.
E. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
4. Method of Election:
A. BBWAA Screening Committee -- A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.
B. An elector will vote for no more than ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.
C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election)
Those are not standards. When I say standards, I am looking for an evaluation system that employs something similar to this:
Evaluation standards identify how the quality of an evaluation will be judged. They can be used when planning an evaluation as well as for meta-evaluation (evaluating the evaluation).
Many organizations have guidelines which address issues of quality and ethics together. For example, the UNDP (United Nations Development Programme) Norms for Evaluation state that evaluation in UNDP should be:
Independent — Management must not impose restrictions on the scope, content, comments and recommendations of evaluation reports. Evaluators must be free of conflict of interest.
Intentional — The rationale for an evaluation and the decisions to be based on it should be clear from the outset.
Transparent — Meaningful consultation with stakeholders is essential for the credibility and utility of the evaluation.
Ethical — Evaluation should not reflect personal or sectoral interests. Evaluators must have professional integrity, respect the rights of institutions and individuals to provide information in confidence, and be sensitive to the beliefs and customs of local social and cultural environments.
Impartial — Removing bias and maximizing objectivity are critical for the credibility of the evaluation and its contribution to knowledge.
And then nothing else which is what I've said all along and for years.
It is a system that is arbitrary in nature, and will remain so, until someone decides that journalists should report instead of creating news.
Same with who makes an All-star, and why, and who gets the Cy Young, etc, etc...
While I understand you may like the current system, it is a system that is and has been corrupted by the lack of firm standards for admission since its inception.
And you can talk all day about all that other shit you keep throwing up about Moyer, but it's just you trying to escape the topic at hand, or you not having the ability to read and comprehend what's been clearly written.
I've no ideaLMAO
Yes, Muddled One, you have no idea. Because you still can't grasp the simple, it's not likely you'll ever grasp the more complex.
I can only surmise.
Yes, because you've shown you can't read, especially when you compound your incomprehension by writing you have never provided any alternatives that is better...
Get help.
Without standards, as has been proven, the HOF is merely an arbitrary process. So-called journalists are "creating news", not reporting it.
When you can actually comprehend the truth, you might be able to form an opinion worth anyone's time.
Bye, dope.
There is basically one standard- 10 years of MLB service.The standard
2. Electors: Only active and honorary members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, who have been active baseball writers for at least ten (10) years, shall be eligible to vote. They must have been active as baseball writers and members of the Association for a period beginning at least ten (10) years prior to the date of election in which they are voting.
3. Eligible Candidates -- Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:
A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning fifteen (15) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.
B. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3(A).
C. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.
D. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.
E. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
4. Method of Election:
A. BBWAA Screening Committee -- A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.
B. An elector will vote for no more than ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.
C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election)
Those are not standards. When I say standards, I am looking for an evaluation system that employs something similar to this:
Evaluation standards identify how the quality of an evaluation will be judged. They can be used when planning an evaluation as well as for meta-evaluation (evaluating the evaluation).
Many organizations have guidelines which address issues of quality and ethics together. For example, the UNDP (United Nations Development Programme) Norms for Evaluation state that evaluation in UNDP should be:
Independent — Management must not impose restrictions on the scope, content, comments and recommendations of evaluation reports. Evaluators must be free of conflict of interest.
Intentional — The rationale for an evaluation and the decisions to be based on it should be clear from the outset.
Transparent — Meaningful consultation with stakeholders is essential for the credibility and utility of the evaluation.
Ethical — Evaluation should not reflect personal or sectoral interests. Evaluators must have professional integrity, respect the rights of institutions and individuals to provide information in confidence, and be sensitive to the beliefs and customs of local social and cultural environments.
Impartial — Removing bias and maximizing objectivity are critical for the credibility of the evaluation and its contribution to knowledge.
And then nothing else which is what I've said all along and for years.
It is a system that is arbitrary in nature, and will remain so, until someone decides that journalists should report instead of creating news.
Same with who makes an All-star, and why, and who gets the Cy Young, etc, etc...
While I understand you may like the current system, it is a system that is and has been corrupted by the lack of firm standards for admission since its inception.
And you can talk all day about all that other shit you keep throwing up about Moyer, but it's just you trying to escape the topic at hand, or you not having the ability to read and comprehend what's been clearly written.
There is basically one standard- 10 years of MLB service.The standard
2. Electors: Only active and honorary members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, who have been active baseball writers for at least ten (10) years, shall be eligible to vote. They must have been active as baseball writers and members of the Association for a period beginning at least ten (10) years prior to the date of election in which they are voting.
3. Eligible Candidates -- Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:
A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning fifteen (15) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.
B. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3(A).
C. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.
D. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.
E. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
4. Method of Election:
A. BBWAA Screening Committee -- A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.
B. An elector will vote for no more than ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.
C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election)
Those are not standards. When I say standards, I am looking for an evaluation system that employs something similar to this:
Evaluation standards identify how the quality of an evaluation will be judged. They can be used when planning an evaluation as well as for meta-evaluation (evaluating the evaluation).
Many organizations have guidelines which address issues of quality and ethics together. For example, the UNDP (United Nations Development Programme) Norms for Evaluation state that evaluation in UNDP should be:
Independent — Management must not impose restrictions on the scope, content, comments and recommendations of evaluation reports. Evaluators must be free of conflict of interest.
Intentional — The rationale for an evaluation and the decisions to be based on it should be clear from the outset.
Transparent — Meaningful consultation with stakeholders is essential for the credibility and utility of the evaluation.
Ethical — Evaluation should not reflect personal or sectoral interests. Evaluators must have professional integrity, respect the rights of institutions and individuals to provide information in confidence, and be sensitive to the beliefs and customs of local social and cultural environments.
Impartial — Removing bias and maximizing objectivity are critical for the credibility of the evaluation and its contribution to knowledge.
And then nothing else which is what I've said all along and for years.
It is a system that is arbitrary in nature, and will remain so, until someone decides that journalists should report instead of creating news.
Same with who makes an All-star, and why, and who gets the Cy Young, etc, etc...
While I understand you may like the current system, it is a system that is and has been corrupted by the lack of firm standards for admission since its inception.
And you can talk all day about all that other shit you keep throwing up about Moyer, but it's just you trying to escape the topic at hand, or you not having the ability to read and comprehend what's been clearly written.
List for us the "standards" you would see enacted that would put Moyer even on the CUSP of Hall induction.
Thanks
There is basically one standard- 10 years of MLB service.The standard
2. Electors: Only active and honorary members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, who have been active baseball writers for at least ten (10) years, shall be eligible to vote. They must have been active as baseball writers and members of the Association for a period beginning at least ten (10) years prior to the date of election in which they are voting.
3. Eligible Candidates -- Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:
A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning fifteen (15) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.
B. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3(A).
C. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.
D. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.
E. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
4. Method of Election:
A. BBWAA Screening Committee -- A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.
B. An elector will vote for no more than ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.
C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/rules/bbwaa-rules-for-election)
Those are not standards. When I say standards, I am looking for an evaluation system that employs something similar to this:
Evaluation standards identify how the quality of an evaluation will be judged. They can be used when planning an evaluation as well as for meta-evaluation (evaluating the evaluation).
Many organizations have guidelines which address issues of quality and ethics together. For example, the UNDP (United Nations Development Programme) Norms for Evaluation state that evaluation in UNDP should be:
Independent — Management must not impose restrictions on the scope, content, comments and recommendations of evaluation reports. Evaluators must be free of conflict of interest.
Intentional — The rationale for an evaluation and the decisions to be based on it should be clear from the outset.
Transparent — Meaningful consultation with stakeholders is essential for the credibility and utility of the evaluation.
Ethical — Evaluation should not reflect personal or sectoral interests. Evaluators must have professional integrity, respect the rights of institutions and individuals to provide information in confidence, and be sensitive to the beliefs and customs of local social and cultural environments.
Impartial — Removing bias and maximizing objectivity are critical for the credibility of the evaluation and its contribution to knowledge.
And then nothing else which is what I've said all along and for years.
It is a system that is arbitrary in nature, and will remain so, until someone decides that journalists should report instead of creating news.
Same with who makes an All-star, and why, and who gets the Cy Young, etc, etc...
While I understand you may like the current system, it is a system that is and has been corrupted by the lack of firm standards for admission since its inception.
And you can talk all day about all that other shit you keep throwing up about Moyer, but it's just you trying to escape the topic at hand, or you not having the ability to read and comprehend what's been clearly written.
List for us the "standards" you would see enacted that would put Moyer even on the CUSP of Hall induction.
Thanks
I know you've been duped by the smokescreen of a blithering banks, but I did not make the argument that there was a standard for his admission.
The one standard the HOF has.. of playing 10 years in MLB, though, he's met 2.5 times.
WHAT standards would you like to see for third base? SS? 1B? etc...
That's the essential question being ignored by the ignorant bankshithead.
List for us the "standards" you would see enacted that would put Moyer even on the CUSP of Hall induction.
Thanks
I know you've been duped by the smokescreen of a blithering banks, but I did not make the argument that there was a standard for his admission.
...
WHAT standards would you like to see for third base? SS? 1B? etc...
That's the essential question being ignored by the ignorant bankshithead.
Unless you're going to do an entirely statistical evaluation[/b]...
List for us the "standards" you would see enacted that would put Moyer even on the CUSP of Hall induction.
Thanks
I know you've been duped by the smokescreen of a blithering banks, but I did not make the argument that there was a standard for his admission.
...
WHAT standards would you like to see for third base? SS? 1B? etc...
That's the essential question being ignored by the ignorant bankshithead.
And by you, as far as I can tell. You were asked a direct question.
You could have made it an answer to what standards you would like to see for pitcher, regardless of Moyer, but you chose not to.
You could have answered the question you asked, about standards for the position players. You chose not to.
I will take a pass at it at some point, perhaps, but since you are the one who is complaining about them and who keeps insisting that Moyer belongs, it would have seemed like the sort of thing you would answer, not just ask.
Is D J LeMehui on the HOF track right now, in your opinion?
(.300 5 times, 2 batting titles, WAR 7 is sub 24 - but sure to improve - will be 32 this year)
edit - add 3 GG and 2 top 10 MVP
He's a guy who could regress late in career but hang on for those 2200, 1300 numbers
See my latest post to clarify that my problem is about the HOF process of selection
Is D J LeMehui on the HOF track right now, in your opinion?
(.300 5 times, 2 batting titles, WAR 7 is sub 24 - but sure to improve - will be 32 this year)
edit - add 3 GG and 2 top 10 MVP
He's a guy who could regress late in career but hang on for those 2200, 1300 numbers
Only time will tell. Does Kirby Puckett get in without his tragedy?
I understand the key to the trade was Amex Rosario. Big things expected.
If you do not love watching Frankie play you do not love baseball.
I understand the key to the trade was Ame(d) Rosario. Big things expected.
If you do not love watching Frankie play you do not love baseball.
If the BBWAA takes seriously is character clause for admission to the HOF, this should disqualify this candidate:Which part of his tweet do you think was more offensive: that protests against police violence and the extra judiciary killing of African Americans was not about shit that mattered, or white people storming the Capitol to try to overturn a fair election and subvert the democratic process was?
In two weeks, three-time World Series champion Curt Schilling will find out if he will be inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame. For his sake, it’s a good thing the ballots had to be submitted by the end of 2020.
Following Wednesday’s riot at the U.S. Capitol Building, Schilling tweeted his support for those who participated in the insurrection.
“You cowards sat on your hands, did nothing while liberal trash looted rioted and burned for air Jordan’s and big screens, sit back, stfu, and watch folks start a confrontation for shit that matters like rights, democracy and the end of govt corruption. #itshappening”
Schilling sent out the tweet at 11:52 p.m., hours after the Trump supporters were cleared from the Capitol and Congress resumed the certification of the Electoral College votes. (By the way, did anyone see Schilling’s new handle on his verified Twitter account? “President Elect Curt Schilling.”
https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/01/ex-red-sox-ace-curt-schilling-defends-trump-supporters-who-trashed-us-capitol.html (https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/01/ex-red-sox-ace-curt-schilling-defends-trump-supporters-who-trashed-us-capitol.html)
A total fucking asshole.
RIP Tommy Lasorda.
RIP Tommy Lasorda.
Just came to post that.
He, along with Scully, was the face of the Dodgers for decades.
And we went out with his beloved Dodgers winning the World Series.
RIP Tommy
If the BBWAA takes seriously is character clause for admission to the HOF, this should disqualify this candidate:Which part of his tweet do you think was more offensive: that protests against police violence and the extra judiciary killing of African Americans was not about shit that mattered, or white people storming the Capitol to try to overturn a fair election and subvert the democratic process was?
In two weeks, three-time World Series champion Curt Schilling will find out if he will be inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame. For his sake, it’s a good thing the ballots had to be submitted by the end of 2020.
Following Wednesday’s riot at the U.S. Capitol Building, Schilling tweeted his support for those who participated in the insurrection.
“You cowards sat on your hands, did nothing while liberal trash looted rioted and burned for air Jordan’s and big screens, sit back, stfu, and watch folks start a confrontation for shit that matters like rights, democracy and the end of govt corruption. #itshappening”
Schilling sent out the tweet at 11:52 p.m., hours after the Trump supporters were cleared from the Capitol and Congress resumed the certification of the Electoral College votes. (By the way, did anyone see Schilling’s new handle on his verified Twitter account? “President Elect Curt Schilling.”
https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/01/ex-red-sox-ace-curt-schilling-defends-trump-supporters-who-trashed-us-capitol.html (https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/01/ex-red-sox-ace-curt-schilling-defends-trump-supporters-who-trashed-us-capitol.html)
A total fucking asshole.
RIP Tommy Lasorda.
Just came to post that.
He, along with Scully, was the face of the Dodgers for decades.
And we went out with his beloved Dodgers winning the World Series.
RIP Tommy
Beating your wife and feeding her to your starving kids?If the BBWAA takes seriously is character clause for admission to the HOF, this should disqualify this candidate:Which part of his tweet do you think was more offensive: that protests against police violence and the extra judiciary killing of African Americans was not about shit that mattered, or white people storming the Capitol to try to overturn a fair election and subvert the democratic process was?
In two weeks, three-time World Series champion Curt Schilling will find out if he will be inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame. For his sake, it’s a good thing the ballots had to be submitted by the end of 2020.
Following Wednesday’s riot at the U.S. Capitol Building, Schilling tweeted his support for those who participated in the insurrection.
“You cowards sat on your hands, did nothing while liberal trash looted rioted and burned for air Jordan’s and big screens, sit back, stfu, and watch folks start a confrontation for shit that matters like rights, democracy and the end of govt corruption. #itshappening”
Schilling sent out the tweet at 11:52 p.m., hours after the Trump supporters were cleared from the Capitol and Congress resumed the certification of the Electoral College votes. (By the way, did anyone see Schilling’s new handle on his verified Twitter account? “President Elect Curt Schilling.”
https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/01/ex-red-sox-ace-curt-schilling-defends-trump-supporters-who-trashed-us-capitol.html (https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/01/ex-red-sox-ace-curt-schilling-defends-trump-supporters-who-trashed-us-capitol.html)
A total fucking asshole.
Which is worse? Beating your wife or starving your children?
Ban Cole, and other cheaters?
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/fired-angels-employee-says-gerrit-cole-justin-verlander-and-others-used-his-illegal-pitching-substance-193107171.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/fired-angels-employee-says-gerrit-cole-justin-verlander-and-others-used-his-illegal-pitching-substance-193107171.html)
Major League Baseball does not plan to mandate that fans provide proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test result before entering a ballpark this year.
In a memo sent to teams Monday and obtained by the Los Angeles Times, the league outlined what it called its “minimum health and safety standards” for the 2021 season. The league noted that state and local authorities could mandate more restrictive standards and that all policies are subject to change as the public health situation in the United States changes.
The league completed its 2020 regular season without fans in attendance, because of the coronavirus pandemic. Monday’s memo was intended to help clubs plan “safely welcoming fans back to ballparks in 2021.”
In the memo, the league said teams could decide whether to require proof of vaccination, a negative COVID-19 test, and/or temperature checks but that MLB did not intend to mandate any of those steps. During the 2020 postseason, when MLB admitted a limited number of fans for the World Series and National League championship series in Arlington, Texas, the league did not require temperature checks.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2021-01-11/mlb-fans-vaccine-coronavirus-dodgers-angels (https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2021-01-11/mlb-fans-vaccine-coronavirus-dodgers-angels)
Individual municipalities will likely rule this situation.
I can't imagine going to a game this coming season.
Speaking of the Mets:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/sport/jared-porter-new-york-mets-firing-spt-intl/index.html
Porter was fired because of inappropriate texts he sent to a reporter in 2016.
In his "defense" he explained that the dick pick wasn't really him. It was stock footage.
Oh, so much better.
JOEY LUCCHESI
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lucchjo01.shtml
a nice alternative for NYM
144 hits in 163 innings in 2019 for the 2016 4th round pick
I am sure he will not be inserted right away, will have to battle to be in the rotation. But happy with this, surely.
JOEY LUCCHESI
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lucchjo01.shtml
a nice alternative for NYM
144 hits in 163 innings in 2019 for the 2016 4th round pick
I am sure he will not be inserted right away, will have to battle to be in the rotation. But happy with this, surely.
So, kid, I see you're back to being a Mets fan, having now abandoned the Red Sox.
Kinda sad that you're such a frontrunner.
JOEY LUCCHESI
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lucchjo01.shtml
a nice alternative for NYM
144 hits in 163 innings in 2019 for the 2016 4th round pick
I am sure he will not be inserted right away, will have to battle to be in the rotation. But happy with this, surely.
So, kid, I see you're back to being a Mets fan, having now abandoned the Red Sox.
Kinda sad that you're such a frontrunner.
Well, son...
Kind of immature for a guy my age to live and die with the wins and losses of any group of millionaires.
Sort of like when you get to the point in life when you stop wearing player jerseys.
Fan of the sport. Follow the Mets. And yes, still an eye on the Sox, who have lost their way
Also following the college game more closely this year if anyone cares.
JOEY LUCCHESI
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lucchjo01.shtml
a nice alternative for NYM
144 hits in 163 innings in 2019 for the 2016 4th round pick
I am sure he will not be inserted right away, will have to battle to be in the rotation. But happy with this, surely.
So, kid, I see you're back to being a Mets fan, having now abandoned the Red Sox.
Kinda sad that you're such a frontrunner.
Well, son...
Kind of immature for a guy my age to live and die with the wins and losses of any group of millionaires.
Sort of like when you get to the point in life when you stop wearing player jerseys.
Fan of the sport. Follow the Mets. And yes, still an eye on the Sox, who have lost their way
Also following the college game more closely this year if anyone cares.
So, banks, did you play a lot of pool when you were a young man?
So, banks, did you play a lot of pool when you were a young man?
I used to shoot some stick.
I was decent.
So, banks, did you play a lot of pool when you were a young man?
I used to shoot some stick.
I was decent.
Is this my cue to say...
Chalk one up for you!
So, banks, did you play a lot of pool when you were a young man?
I used to shoot some stick.
I was decent.
So, banks, did you play a lot of pool when you were a young man?
I used to shoot some stick.
I was decent.
I played well, when I was young. Now, I can't see!
But I remember making tuition payment with money I'd win in bars, playing in 5 and 10 or 20 dollar games. Not a lot of money now. But at that time minimum wage was about $2.65 an hour.
I have that card!
RIP. He braved a lot of death threats as he approached Ruth's HR record.
I have that card!
Better put it in your will.
"Bob" and "Richie" and "Hank".
His career was a few years longer but Dick Allen is sort of similar to Albert Belle - a great player who had... issues that adversely effected how their careers are perceived. Belle's career was too short for serious HoF consideration, but I suspect he would have had the same issue with the BBWA."Bob" and "Richie" and "Hank".
Two Hall of Famers and a Dick
His career was a few years longer but Dick Allen is sort of similar to Albert Belle - a great player who had... issues that adversely effected how their careers are perceived. Belle's career was too short for serious HoF consideration, but I suspect he would have had the same issue with the BBWA."Bob" and "Richie" and "Hank".
Two Hall of Famers and a Dick
And if Dick Allen were white he would have been a "fiery competitor" and in the Hall of Fame. Discuss.
(someone please apologize to Lou Whitaker).Fuckin' A bubba.
His career was a few years longer but Dick Allen is sort of similar to Albert Belle - a great player who had... issues that adversely effected how their careers are perceived. Belle's career was too short for serious HoF consideration, but I suspect he would have had the same issue with the BBWA."Bob" and "Richie" and "Hank".
Two Hall of Famers and a Dick
And if Dick Allen were white he would have been a "fiery competitor" and in the Hall of Fame. Discuss.
Even with Nightengale's impassioned defense of his idiocy, it remains mind-boggling that somebody actually thought LaTroy Hawkins worthy of Hall of Fame admission.
So, who we got this year?
https://baseballhall.org/discover/2021-hall-of-fame-bbwaa-ballot
Schilling
Clemens
Bonds
Helton
Kent
Ramirez
Even with Nightengale's impassioned defense of his idiocy, it remains mind-boggling that somebody actually thought LaTroy Hawkins worthy of Hall of Fame admission.
He's no Jamie Moyer!
Is that a real book?
If so I will check it out
Adolph Schilling has asked the BBWA to remove his name from the ballot for the HoF next year. Given that two plahers who are obviously paper qualified to have been first ballot Hallcof Famers cannot get over the bump due to PED allegations,.and that the two best qualified additions to next year's ballots are also PED tainted, will we go two years on a row without the writers electing anyone to the Hall?
Maybe, but he's not getting in next year. Nor is Omar, even if he stops beating his wife.Adolph Schilling has asked the BBWA to remove his name from the ballot for the HoF next year. Given that two plahers who are obviously paper qualified to have been first ballot Hallcof Famers cannot get over the bump due to PED allegations,.and that the two best qualified additions to next year's ballots are also PED tainted, will we go two years on a row without the writers electing anyone to the Hall?
Not if they look more carefully at Jamie Moyer's records.
Seriously, Scott Rolen is a HOFer.
Maybe, but he's not getting in next year. Nor is Omar, even if he stops beating his wife.Adolph Schilling has asked the BBWA to remove his name from the ballot for the HoF next year. Given that two plahers who are obviously paper qualified to have been first ballot Hallcof Famers cannot get over the bump due to PED allegations,.and that the two best qualified additions to next year's ballots are also PED tainted, will we go two years on a row without the writers electing anyone to the Hall?
Not if they look more carefully at Jamie Moyer's records.
Seriously, Scott Rolen is a HOFer.
This is the wrong zeitgeist for.that kind of accusation.
And as much as he was 99-100000030709339 of my favorite players, Omar's 2800 career hits is a Moyerish qualification. He was comparatively better in his prime than Moyer was, though.
So my fat thumb hit 9 instead of o and autocorrect gave me 99-100000030709339 as an option, when I meant "one", just from a 9. Why? Is that a common number to have typed? I don't think I have ever typed that, let alone typed it enough to be, like my frequent typo tbe, a learned option. So it must be the program itself.
Adolph Schilling has asked the BBWA to remove his name from the ballot for the HoF next year. Given that two plahers who are obviously paper qualified to have been first ballot Hallcof Famers cannot get over the bump due to PED allegations,.and that the two best qualified additions to next year's ballots are also PED tainted, will we go two years on a row without the writers electing anyone to the Hall?
Adolph Schilling has asked the BBWA to remove his name from the ballot for the HoF next year. Given that two plahers who are obviously paper qualified to have been first ballot Hallcof Famers cannot get over the bump due to PED allegations,.and that the two best qualified additions to next year's ballots are also PED tainted, will we go two years on a row without the writers electing anyone to the Hall?
No
I think cooler heads will prevail and Schill gets in next year.
Adolph Schilling has asked the BBWA to remove his name from the ballot for the HoF next year. Given that two plahers who are obviously paper qualified to have been first ballot Hallcof Famers cannot get over the bump due to PED allegations,.and that the two best qualified additions to next year's ballots are also PED tainted, will we go two years on a row without the writers electing anyone to the Hall?
No
I think cooler heads will prevail and Schill gets in next year.
You think they will ignore his request to be dropped?
IMO only injuries keep him out of the HoF.
Sure.
Ditto NOMAR
NOMAR had a WAR6 of 40+ (add top 6 WAR years), which is top level for a middle infielder. His 7th best year was just a 2.8, so the WAR7 is about 43.i used baseballref. for WAR and got some different values WAR 6 and 7
Pedey was at WAR7 40, I think.
i used baseballref. for WAR and got some different values WAR 6 and 7
Nice. Now go back and add again.
It's a solid comp, no matter the math.
Two, maybe three less Boston Hall of Famers. Not sure we deserve that.
What team do you suppose has the most "marginals"?
I guess Sox have at least 5, with Manny/Evans added.
Dustin Pedroia to retire
one of my favorites.
played hard every game, played with a lot of swagger there was a lot of ballplayer in that little guy
Pedey was so much fun to watch play, he always had the dirtiest uni, he busted his ass and looked like he loved doing it.
IMO only injuries keep him out of the HoF.
Thanks Dustin
It's a solid comp, no matter the math.
Two, maybe three less Boston Hall of Famers.
Four, actually - including Manny
That you dont think Nomar or Pedroia make the Hall if they hadnt the injuries (if this IS what you are saying)
Four, actually - including Manny
That you dont think Nomar or Pedroia make the Hall if they hadnt the injuries (if this IS what you are saying)
Not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that given the careers as they ended, if they make the Hall it will be a surprise to me.
Four, actually - including Manny
That you dont think Nomar or Pedroia make the Hall if they hadnt the injuries (if this IS what you are saying)
Not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that given the careers as they ended, if they make the Hall it will be a surprise to me.
I agree. But IMO Pedroia has a shot, IMO he was the best fielding 2nd baseman in baseball for about 10 years, a .300 hitter, and had the resume to support a vote.
Four, actually - including Manny
That you dont think Nomar or Pedroia make the Hall if they hadnt the injuries (if this IS what you are saying)
Not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that given the careers as they ended, if they make the Hall it will be a surprise to me.
I agree. But IMO Pedroia has a shot, IMO he was the best fielding 2nd baseman in baseball for about 10 years, a .300 hitter, and had the resume to support a vote.
He's no Chase Utley.
Four, actually - including Manny
That you dont think Nomar or Pedroia make the Hall if they hadnt the injuries (if this IS what you are saying)
Not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that given the careers as they ended, if they make the Hall it will be a surprise to me.
I agree. But IMO Pedroia has a shot, IMO he was the best fielding 2nd baseman in baseball for about 10 years, a .300 hitter, and had the resume to support a vote.
He's no Chase Utley.
It's true.
How many Gold Gloves did Utley win?
How many MVPs?
I can't quite remember.
Interesting. Nothing about defense there. I must have missed it I guess. I'm kind of surprised that a guy who yells and screams that using the DH isn't "real baseball" leaves out defense in his "analysis" of who's a better player.
If Utley could've played his career in the Bronx, with days off to just DH, you'd be singing a different tune.
What tune am I singing? I like the DH. Utley was a mediocre second baseman far below Pedroia's class.
The initial point re Pedroia was the impact on his counting stats caused by his injuries. Basically he was done by age 33, Utley accumulated stats until he was close to 40.
Pedroia was the better hitter, fielder and player.
Utley hit more HRs.
The initial point re Pedroia was the impact on his counting stats caused by his injuries. Basically he was done by age 33, Utley accumulated stats until he was close to 40.
Pedroia was the better hitter, fielder and player.
Utley hit more HRs.
Sure. Uh huh. Just ignore the WAR Stats in the ALL TIME LIST.
Homer.
Interesting. Nothing about defense there. I must have missed it I guess. I'm kind of surprised that a guy who yells and screams that using the DH isn't "real baseball" leaves out defense in his "analysis" of who's a better player.
If Utley could've played his career in the Bronx, with days off to just DH, you'd be singing a different tune.
It's defense was fine. But his leadership, ability to endure, hit for power, etc, are superior to Dustbin's.
The initial point re Pedroia was the impact on his counting stats caused by his injuries. Basically he was done by age 33, Utley accumulated stats until he was close to 40.
Pedroia was the better hitter, fielder and player.
Utley hit more HRs.
Sure. Uh huh. Just ignore the WAR Stats in the ALL TIME LIST.
Homer.
And speaking of homers Utley played half his games in the park typically ranked the easiset for HR.
Actually if you look at their WAR #s through age 33 (Pedroia's real end point) you'll find the WAR #s pretty close as Utley added 12.6 WAR points from 33-39, while Pedroia lost 0.7 in his last 2 injury shortened seasons.
So if you make that adjustment:
Pedroia 51.6 +0.7= 52.3
Utley 64.4-12.6 = 51.8
Through a like period Pedroia's WAR was slightly higher.
HEH
The discussion was the better player.
And Pedroia was the better player.
Although Chase Utley had an edge in the 33-39 age time period.
From 2005 to 2011, he had 47.8 Fangraphs wins above replacement. The next-highest player, Dustin Pedroia, had 24.7. During this time, Utley also ranks first in OPS (.896) and wRC+ (134), second in home runs (173) and runs batted in (616), third in hits (1095), sixth in stolen bases (104), and seventh in batting average (.293).
Utley performed well in two World Series berths with the Phillies. He hit two home runs and drove in four runs in 2008.
Utley’s best playoff performance came in the 2009 World Series when he tied Reggie Jackson for the most home runs in a World Series with six. Even though his team lost, there was still talk of naming him the series MVP anyway.
From 2005 to 2011, he had 47.8 Fangraphs wins above replacement. The next-highest player, Dustin Pedroia, had 24.7[/size]
So far you've shown no evidence to support your assertion that Dustbin was the "better player", other than to snip a portion of the careers to compare.
God but I yearn for tne days of Nomar/Jeter debates.
Legitimate NL contenders if Bauer signs
And at any price this is good enough for me
1-40
3-100+
More years
whatever.
Cant miss TV times 2, with DeGrom. I would expect in their 60 starts we win 36-42 of them.
No doubt. Every team in that division can win it.
Baseballs are not inflatable.
Nor yours. Which was my point.Baseballs are not inflatable.
Humor is not your thing.
Nor yours. Which was my point.Baseballs are not inflatable.
Humor is not your thing.
Typical comeback from you, REDSTATEWARD.Nor yours. Which was my point.Baseballs are not inflatable.
Humor is not your thing.
Thanks for proving MY point.
Typical comeback from you, REDSTATEWARD.Nor yours. Which was my point.Baseballs are not inflatable.
Humor is not your thing.
Thanks for proving MY point.
https://www.mlb.com/news/jonathan-villar-mets-deal (https://www.mlb.com/news/jonathan-villar-mets-deal)
Throughout the past decade, the Mets have often invested relatively little in their bench, leaving them exposed to injuries and other maladies.
Not so this year. Days after agreeing to terms with veteran outfielder Albert Almora Jr., the Mets struck a similar Major League agreement with utility man Jonathan Villar, according to a source. The Mets have not confirmed the contract, which is worth $3.55 million plus incentives.
When it becomes official, the deal will give the Mets needed depth behind their starters at second base, third base, shortstop, left and center field. Villar has played all those positions throughout his eight-year career, serving mostly as a middle infielder but providing versatility elsewhere.
I am going to guess he doesnt throw upper 90s.
Handled in house at the time.
Handled in house at the time.
By "handled in house", you mean swept under the rug.
Got it.
I am going to guess he doesnt throw upper 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0Sjva5rIo&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0Sjva5rIo&feature=emb_logo)
You have to like the movement on his pitches.
Handled in house at the time.
By "handled in house", you mean swept under the rug.
Got it.
Now write, 100 times, "I will not get caught harassing female employees again."
Employee was disciplined and went to counseling
Handled in house at the time.
By "handled in house", you mean swept under the rug.
Got it.
Now write, 100 times, "I will not get caught harassing female employees again."
Employee was disciplined and went to counseling
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2932981-kevin-mather-resigns-as-mariners-president-following-inappropriate-comments
The stupid comments on international players are probably not the things that will have the longest ramifications for MLB that Mather talked about. Rather, it will be his admission to manipulating service time.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2932981-kevin-mather-resigns-as-mariners-president-following-inappropriate-comments
The stupid comments on international players are probably not the things that will have the longest ramifications for MLB that Mather talked about. Rather, it will be his admission to manipulating service time.
Good news! https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2933828-orioles-trey-mancini-gets-standing-ovation-in-1st-at-bat-since-cancer-recovery?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2933828-orioles-trey-mancini-gets-standing-ovation-in-1st-at-bat-since-cancer-recovery?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial)
And what's the Story with Trevor Story? Will he end up a Marlin?
Dont know. How good is Kim Ng?
fify.And what's the Story with Trevor Story? Will he end up a Marlin?
Dont know. How good is Kim Ng?
Today's shortstops want to play for their hero, Mr.Jeter.Benjamin.
Amazing stat of the day
Who are the top 4 players in MLB slugging percentage through age 21?
Hint:. #4 is a current guy and recent.
Amazing stat of the day
Who are the top 4 players in MLB slugging percentage through age 21?
Hint:. #4 is a current guy and recent.
Deciding on fantasy baseball this yearWell, I am.stl there dammit.
It allows me to keep track of players, surely. But of course time consuinmg if you want to be competitive.
I guess GGHF is cooked. Good 20-year run- of which I am proud,
Juan Soto. Yep.
,557 SLG over 3 seasons (though less than 320 games)
Had a higher batting average, on base AND slugging than all 4 guys ahead of him in the MVP voting
BoSox new owner: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31076745/source-lebron-james-becomes-part-owner-boston-red-sox-joins-fenway-sports-group-partner (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31076745/source-lebron-james-becomes-part-owner-boston-red-sox-joins-fenway-sports-group-partner)He was always adamant he is from Akron. And a Yankees fan.
Guess he didn't want to be in Cleveland.
BoSox new owner: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31076745/source-lebron-james-becomes-part-owner-boston-red-sox-joins-fenway-sports-group-partner (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31076745/source-lebron-james-becomes-part-owner-boston-red-sox-joins-fenway-sports-group-partner)He was always adamant he is from Akron. And a Yankees fan.
Guess he didn't want to be in Cleveland.
BoSox new owner: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31076745/source-lebron-james-becomes-part-owner-boston-red-sox-joins-fenway-sports-group-partner (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31076745/source-lebron-james-becomes-part-owner-boston-red-sox-joins-fenway-sports-group-partner)He was always adamant he is from Akron. And a Yankees fan.
Guess he didn't want to be in Cleveland.
Well, then this will be a test of his loyalties.
Re: IndiansWell, our outfielders blow. Gimenez, Hernandez and Ramirez have the infield sewn up, so the more positions he can play the more his chances to play.
I flip on the game today - good expected duel - Canning vs Bieber
And some cat named ROSARIO muffs a 2-out fly ball to center allowing Ohtani and Trout to score - and messing with the Shaner's workload.
Hadnt heard AHMED was being used in the OF. Big BOOOO from here.
Gimenez, Hernandez and Ramirez have the infield sewn upWell, Ramirez was an MVP candidate at third and they aren't paying Hernandez to sit. And IIRC Gimenez beat out Rosario last year too. Why the surprise?
Wow - really?
And whoever says playing CF is the easiest outfield position to learn to play, never played outfield, let alone CF.Actually, he played over 200 games in the outfield in a 9 year MLB career. In addition to being a pretty successful manager everywhere he has been outside of time spent managing in an east coast shit hole with a drunken, violent, racist, Santa Claus hating fan base.
Which is no surprise. Ignorance of the game runs is endemic to the Cleveland fan base.
RE: "all that money" and HernandezFor the Indians, that is a lot of money.
not sure if Whisk was trying to be funny but its a 1 year 5 mil pact with a team option
I'll go with
ALE 1. Yanks 2. BJ's
ALC. 1.White Sox. 2. Twins
ALW 1. Angels. 2. A's
NLW 1. LAD. 2. Padres
NLC. 1. Cards. 2. Brew Crew
NLE. 1. Braves. 2. Nats
WS--- Padres over ChiSox
Ahhh...I knew we'd flush one out. Any predictions for the so far unasterisked season, banks?
Cole blows lead, Yanks lose.
BOMB by T Hernandez on a hanging breaking pitch delivered by Cole, who was very impressive.
And they may take him out....
sick.
Matt Harvey tomorrow. O's 1-2 punch - heh
MLB pulls ASG from Atlanta
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31183822/mlb-moving-all-star-game-atlanta-georgia-voting-law (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31183822/mlb-moving-all-star-game-atlanta-georgia-voting-law)
Major League Baseball announced Friday that it is moving the 2021 All-Star Game out of Atlanta in response to a new Georgia law that has civil rights groups concerned about its potential to restrict voting access for people of color.
"Over the last week, we have engaged in thoughtful conversations with Clubs, former and current players, the Players Association, and The Players Alliance, among others, to listen to their views," Manfred said in his statement. "I have decided that the best way to demonstrate our values as a sport is by relocating this year's All-Star Game and MLB Draft.
"Major League Baseball fundamentally supports voting rights for all Americans and opposes restrictions to the ballot box. In 2020, MLB became the first professional sports league to join the non-partisan Civic Alliance to help build a future in which everyone participates in shaping the United States. We proudly used our platform to encourage baseball fans and communities throughout our country to perform their civic duty and actively participate in the voting process. Fair access to voting continues to have our game's unwavering support."
MLB got it right.
Manfred:
"Over the last week we have engaged in thoughtful conversations with clubs, former and current players, The Players Association, and The Player's Alliance (??).... to listen to their views. I HAVE DECIDED......"
Listened to both sides, did ya?
Braves would be one example of the other side
Did Manfred speak to them before deciding?
I love Curtis Granderson, but they are being dicks on this issue.
Phils-Braves
FS1 4 PM
Harvey beating Sox. Reallll long season ahead.
Had the big hit
Manfred:
"Over the last week we have engaged in thoughtful conversations with clubs, former and current players, The Players Association, and The Player's Alliance (??).... to listen to their views. I HAVE DECIDED......"
Listened to both sides, did ya?
I would like nothing more than Mets being 3 games up in loss column to Braves
But it can't be a sweep, right?
ATL -115 Anderson over Eflin
Happy Easter, all.
I would like nothing more than Mets being 3 games up in loss column to Braves
But it can't be a sweep, right?
ATL -115 Anderson over Eflin
Happy Easter, all.
You lose. Phils sweep. Alec Bohm plays hero in the 8th, Hoskins scores the winning run. Eflin goes 7IP, 1R, 1BB, 8Ks.
So, pinch me, but the Phightin's start the season with a sweep of the favorite to win the Division, get great starting pitching from all 3 starters, and limit the Braves to 3 runs in 3 games.
They're reward is now facing Jacob deGrom tomorrow night (and the mighty Mets), as his start was postponed since Thursday, after Covid killed the Mets series with the Nats.
And the might Orioles sweep, too, and start their season 3-0.
Peace and happiness has broken out all over the Delmarva Peninsula!
Your assumption that all former and current players view things from one side is entertaining.
What the everloving fuck are you talking about?
MLB said they talked to former and current players.
You challenged, "did they talk to both sides?" as if to suggest that they did not, but in your usual mealy-mouthed way to avoid owning your own words.
I know they talked to Players Alliance guys - that would be former and current players
Did MLB talk to all 30 teams in a conference call - get that input?
Even talk at length to Braves front office/ownership?
Providing Manfred with the FACTS would be the first step.
Ol Rob just went with what Dems put forth
Very likely a high level Dem himself. I will listen if you know otherwise.
That the decision seemed unilateral is also disappointing.
Providing Manfred with the FACTS would be the first step.
Ol Rob just went with what Dems put forth
Very likely a high level Dem himself. I will listen if you know otherwise.
That the decision seemed unilateral is also disappointing.
What FACTS can you prove that "Ol' Rob" did not consider?
Providing Manfred with the FACTS would be the first step.
Ol Rob just went with what Dems put forth
Very likely a high level Dem himself. I will listen if you know otherwise.
That the decision seemed unilateral is also disappointing.
What FACTS can you prove that "Ol' Rob" did not consider?
Manfred went with incorrect information put forth by the Democratic Party - sadly including the (acting) President of the United States.
MLB said they talked to former and current players.
You challenged, "did they talk to both sides?" as if to suggest that they did not, but in your usual mealy-mouthed way to avoid owning your own words.
I know they talked to Players Alliance guys - that would be former and current players
Did MLB talk to all 30 teams in a conference call - get that input?
Even talk at length to Braves front office/ownership?
Very likely a high level Dem himself. I will listen if you know otherwise.
Republican talking points? Or counters to the Dems malarchy?
Ask Biden if voters waiting on line can be given water.
What, Joe? I didnt hear you.
Fucktards.
Republican talking points? Or counters to the Dems malarchy?
Ask Biden if voters waiting on line can be given water.
What, Joe? I didnt hear you.
Fucktards.
MLB said they talked to former and current players.
You challenged, "did they talk to both sides?" as if to suggest that they did not, but in your usual mealy-mouthed way to avoid owning your own words.
I know they talked to Players Alliance guys - that would be former and current players
Did MLB talk to all 30 teams in a conference call - get that input?
Even talk at length to Braves front office/ownership?
They talked to former and current players as well as the Players Alliance, according to their release.
But whatever.
You want evidence someone didn't do something?
Baseball BLM
You want evidence someone didn't do something?
Heh
Great forum.
You want evidence someone didn't do something?
Heh
Great forum.
No, asshole.
I want evidence of THIS:
"Very likely a high level Dem himself"
"'There are good people who think this (new Georgia) law is right, good people who think it is wrong...baseball brings people together. We will not get bogged down in other people's politics'. That is the only thing Baseball (MLB) should have done"
- The always brilliant Ari Fleischer
Jerseys like that should be worn when there are kegs and styrofoam coolers strategically placed near the foul lines.
Hey, ASSHOLE!
Shhhhh....
Red Sox getting a new uni to honor the Boston Marathon.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/pass-or-fail-red-sox-to-wear-yellow-uniforms-as-tribute-to-boston-marathon-150022133.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/pass-or-fail-red-sox-to-wear-yellow-uniforms-as-tribute-to-boston-marathon-150022133.html)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyS7vaYU8Akr9c1?format=jpg&name=medium)
Looks like they're leading the Tour de France!
SOX!!!!!!
Good team.
Garrett Richards is not impressing me.
Or, rather, he is, but not in a good way.
Garrett Richards is not impressing me.
Or, rather, he is, but not in a good way.
That worked. Now the bullpen...
Has UNO checked in yet on the Phillies' - ahem - win?
heh
nice win
I know you dont think your team is very good
8th inning walk off.
Cool.
9
Another no hitter last night, a HBP away from being perfect.There is a potential for a no hitter anytime the Indians take the plate.
Congratulations to Carlos Rodon and the White Sox.
I wonder if we will see an above average number of them this year!
First game of the Duo-Sox doubleheader went White, unfortunately, but it was a good game.
I still hate the 7 inning short-form games.
Don't know where the rest of the game will go, but today's game has certainly gotten off to a different start than either game yesterday!
Life's good when the Sox are good.
HehWhy the edit? Did you spell "heh" incorrectly?
Seattle sacrifices runner to third
THANK YOU - finally we will see how this works out
(Would love to see numbers as we get deeper in season - how many teams that are tied into the tenth and BUNT the runner over as away team go on to win the game)
(Would love to see numbers as we get deeper in season - how many teams that are tied into the tenth and BUNT the runner over as away team go on to win the game)All of them. Well, unless the batter cannot bunt.
So at least we agre in agreement the Sox move off of Tendi as a major buldling block was positive
Boston can hope the kid pitcher Winckowski amounts to something
DeGrom is at Pedro-level greatness.
Meanwhile, here come the Yanks (winners of 4 in 5)
DeGrom is at Pedro-level greatness.
Pedro didn't ask out of games.
So you could have a perfect game - but with runners having been on base (start 8th, start 9th).
Interesting
Monday night, Ohtani was the first pitcher to start a game while leading the majors in home runs since Babe Ruth in 1921, says the news. (Ruth lead the AL in homers in 1930, when he started, but not MLB.)
Monday night, Ohtani was the first pitcher to start a game while leading the majors in home runs since Babe Ruth in 1921, says the news. (Ruth lead the AL in homers in 1930, when he started, but not MLB.)
Let's see how long that lasts. IMO, if they stay in the race, they should restrict him to pitching only, once we get to mid-August and going forward. That way he can focus on where he can help the team most.
A 2-hitter
Mets took JDG out at 93 pitches - deserve to lose.
Best teams in baseball -
KANSAS CITY, followed by SAN FRANCISCO
Love it
Ha!
Have to admit I enjoyed this
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/05/phillies-andrew-mccutchen-base-path-rule-umpires-mets?csp=trueanthem&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1I5vHhu0Eb3Ndd8y9zO6vM6DO09hCj-tf0wfBkAtiekKRLgPjKqX1xSpY
Orioles' Means has no-hitter thru 7.
sloppy shit-show of game at Fenway today
Happy 90th Say, Hey.
INDIANS ARE NO HIT BY MILEY.
Indians, if my math is right, are on pace to be no hit 10 times this year. Which is in the realm of possibility.INDIANS ARE NO HIT BY MILEY.
Good game by Miley!
(Why can't we get players like that?!)
INDIANS ARE NO HIT BY MILEY.Do tell, "Buckwheat".
BAD NIGHT FOR THE RACIST NAMED BASEBALL TEAMS OF MLB!
Indians, if my math is right, are on pace to be no hit 10 times this year. Which is in the realm of possibility.INDIANS ARE NO HIT BY MILEY.
Good game by Miley!
(Why can't we get players like that?!)
Rolling, rolling, rolling
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/13/sport/yankees-test-positive-covid/index.html
7 vaccinated Yankees have tested positive for COVID-19.
That is a frightening piece of news.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/13/sport/yankees-test-positive-covid/index.html
7 vaccinated Yankees have tested positive for COVID-19.
That is a frightening piece of news.
Better stay indoors and away from the window, then, wimp.
Did they get the vaccine? Or were they among the group who thought they were "invincible"?
You gotta give it to MLB they found a way to devalue both HRs and no-hitters
heh
check other teams' injuries in the division
Phils healthy players are failing.
heh
check other teams' injuries in the division
Phils healthy players are failing.
Heh...try keeping up.
heh
check other teams' injuries in the division
Phils healthy players are failing.
Heh...try keeping up.
Heh
I think what you are saying is you cant win series without your catcher.
Be a better fan, admit to a rough patch and expect more from your earners.
On a related note, for all that a 474ft. homer is impressive (and it is), I still don't understand why the Red Sox think Franchy Cordero is the answer to anything.
I never thought BOS figured Franchy to be an answer to anything, except "what can we get for this overrated puss-armed lefthanded hitter that thought it wise to balloon himself".
On a related note, for all that a 474ft. homer is impressive (and it is), I still don't understand why the Red Sox think Franchy Cordero is the answer to anything.
I never thought BOS figured Franchy to be an answer to anything, except "what can we get for this overrated puss-armed lefthanded hitter that thought it wise to balloon himself".
We'll see what comes of those 3 P2BNL folks, but knock Tendi all you would like, Franchy makes him look like a HOFer.
**May 27: OF Franchy Cordero optioned to Triple-A Worcester
**Though his last swing in a game before this move -- taken on May 23 in Philadelphia -- resulted in a mammoth 474-foot homer, Cordero’s overall body of work simply hasn’t been good enough to keep him on the roster. In 34 games and 102 plate appearances, Cordero is slashing .179/.228/.274 with 37 strikeouts and just the one homer. Without much playing time available for him in Boston, perhaps Cordero can work out his issues with regular playing time.
Miserable night for baseball at Fenway.
So far, a wonderful night for baseball at Fenway.
Sox rained out.
Chances are they'll fall another 1/2 game behind the never seem to lose anymore Rays.
long time between wins in da Bronx.
long time between wins in da Bronx.
May the next wait be roughly 24 hours...
And I thoroughly enjoyed tonight's game, but the Yankees should have had one more at bat in the 9th, for sure.
Why is that?
"I think it’s tiring when losses are blamed on umpires calls because there is so much that goes on before and usually after..."
That's all Kay had to say. The Yankees are poorly constructed team and their lack of success is entirely their own doing.
For some reason I handle the dysfunction and incompetence of the umpires better than I handle the dysfunction and incompetence of the team I root for."I think it’s tiring when losses are blamed on umpires calls because there is so much that goes on before and usually after..."
That's all Kay had to say. The Yankees are poorly constructed team and their lack of success is entirely their own doing.
True, except the quality of umpiring has truly gone downhill all across the league(s). And in 9th inning game on the line, a pitch that far off the plate on a 3-2 count should NEVER be called a strike. The fact that it was called a strike effectively killed an opportunity to extend the home team's traditional advantage, an advantage now mightily muted by Manfred's malicious and murderous meddling in major league baseball.
Worst of the umps, 2021, starting in the METS home opener: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7sjmjeFvg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7sjmjeFvg)
And these are horrible as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXT6D3PvA_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXT6D3PvA_U)
Sometimes when you see a pattern of dysfunction, it's a pattern of dysfunction.
For some reason I handle the dysfunction and incompetence of the umpires better than I handle the dysfunction and incompetence of the team I root for."I think it’s tiring when losses are blamed on umpires calls because there is so much that goes on before and usually after..."
That's all Kay had to say. The Yankees are poorly constructed team and their lack of success is entirely their own doing.
True, except the quality of umpiring has truly gone downhill all across the league(s). And in 9th inning game on the line, a pitch that far off the plate on a 3-2 count should NEVER be called a strike. The fact that it was called a strike effectively killed an opportunity to extend the home team's traditional advantage, an advantage now mightily muted by Manfred's malicious and murderous meddling in major league baseball.
Worst of the umps, 2021, starting in the METS home opener: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7sjmjeFvg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7sjmjeFvg)
And these are horrible as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXT6D3PvA_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXT6D3PvA_U)
Sometimes when you see a pattern of dysfunction, it's a pattern of dysfunction.
I’m at Camden Yards. Social distancing without trying.
ICYMI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlT3gyPOiw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlT3gyPOiw)
Sox are going to need an epic comeback to make this one close, or an epic torrential Biblical downpour immediately to escape this ass-kicking.
Sox are going to need an epic comeback to make this one close, or an epic torrential Biblical downpour immediately to escape this ass-kicking.
Too late now for the downpour, unless it washed out the season - and I will pass on that, thanks.
Not just epic, but record-tying comeback.
GO SOX!
Sox are going to need an epic comeback to make this one close, or an epic torrential Biblical downpour immediately to escape this ass-kicking.
Too late now for the downpour, unless it washed out the season - and I will pass on that, thanks.
Not just epic, but record-tying comeback.
GO SOX!
Phils sweep.
Nice.
I think Boone's in trouble. But this is Cashman's baby.
For many dog owners, just making it to Westminster is a thrill — even for baseball’s all-time home run leader, Barry Bonds, who was cheering on a miniature schnauzer he owns with sister Cheryl Dugan.Does Westminster ban HGH?
The dog, Rocky, didn’t win his breed, but the slugger said he was proud of Rocky simply for qualifying for the champions-only show.
“We won because we got here. That’s all that matters,” Bonds told Fox Sports. “I’ve been to a lot of playoffs, and I’ve been to the World Series, and I’ve never won. But for 22 years, I kept trying.”
https://apnews.com/article/dogs-sports-c14bc59b70a0b9b5c4a1fa0aab2e77c6
Prime Peke! Wasabi the Pekingese wins Westminster dog show
For many dog owners, just making it to Westminster is a thrill — even for baseball’s all-time home run leader, Barry Bonds, who was cheering on a miniature schnauzer he owns with sister Cheryl Dugan.
The dog, Rocky, didn’t win his breed, but the slugger said he was proud of Rocky simply for qualifying for the champions-only show.
“We won because we got here. That’s all that matters,” Bonds told Fox Sports. “I’ve been to a lot of playoffs, and I’ve been to the World Series, and I’ve never won. But for 22 years, I kept trying.”
https://apnews.com/article/dogs-sports-c14bc59b70a0b9b5c4a1fa0aab2e77c6
Prime Peke! Wasabi the Pekingese wins Westminster dog show
All knotted up in the 3rd quarter.
Yankees playing a home game in Buffalo. Don't think that MLB didn't know that was going to happen.
Sawamura a real findWell, the Sox are 4 up on us, and we are one Aaron Civale blister away from a pitching staff comprising nothing but relie ears, so I'd say it is a safe bet.
Can Sox - as mediocre as they are - hold on to a playoff spot?
Baseball karma would say no, we'll see
Yankees playing a home game in Buffalo. Don't think that MLB didn't know that was going to happen.
I'm sure they did, but what was the alternative?
Don't you think there would far more people in Nashville rooting for the Yankees than were rooting for Toronto as well?
Yankees playing a home game in Buffalo. Don't think that MLB didn't know that was going to happen.
I'm sure they did, but what was the alternative?
Test market in Nashville would've worked.
sports fans in Atlanta are having themeslves a night
I hope one comeback is sufficient
Tough day for de Grom - K'ed 8 of the first 9, then out of the game w/a shoulder injury.
Wheeler was a Mets mistake - as I said at the time. Made less so by the work of M Stroman and emergence this year of T Walker.
Phils on outside looking in
Wild card hopefuls
NL
Mil
St Louis
Cincy
LAD
SD
AL
Boston
NY
Cle
Hou
Pretty sure LA will make some moves as well
SD? Maybe.
Good division
NL East? Not so much as advertised.
How much did it hurt Philly when that kid CF retired? That was sad to hear.
Oh, wait - he's back
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/adam-haseley-reinstated-phillies-40-man-roster-rafael-marchan
Nice job by Yanks. Clearly a baserunning mistake by the young Bichette.
Conversation in one of my Facebook groups going on right now of how young players, even the elite, just do not know basic baseball skills.
Where is Bichette going? It's hit back to the mound for Christ sake.
How? Bichette was trapped. If not its 2nd and 3rd one out.
LeMahieu then threw it to shortstop Gleyber Torres in the middle of the infield, who quickly sent it to catcher Gary Sánchez, sensing Marcus Semien was in no-man's land between third and home plate. The backstop threw it to third baseman Gio Urshela, who tagged Semien out.
If Semien stays home, then it's a runner on third with two outs. If when they go after Semien, Bichette goes back to 2nd, it's a runner on 2nd with two outs.
But that would be dumb.
No. Going off the base to try to save Bichette was dumb, as demonstrated by the play. All if did was get him out instead of the runner on 2nd. Which would you rather have? The runner on 2nd with two outs or the runner on 3rd?
You would rather the run down be between third and home than between second and third.
Bichette's second mistake was not getting to 3B in time. Bichette on 3rd, once he made the initial mistake - with 2 down - should have been the worst outcome for Jays if done properly. Best of course being Semien scoring.
If you see that play 20 times, 20 times you will see the player leave 3B.
The trail runner's job is to get to third.
The lead runner tries to score on a botched rundown or obstruction by the defense.
Yes. Most times after a bonehead gaffe such as Bichette's there will be 02 men out when play is over.
Note:. The one lifeline Bichette has in this is if the contact play was on. If it was then Semien should have just dashed home (on contact = as soon as ball is struck on the ground) and got hung up allowing batter to get to second and Bichette to third
No charge for the lesson
The trail runner's job is to get to third.
The lead runner tries to score on a botched rundown or obstruction by the defense.
Yes. Most times after a bonehead gaffe such as Bichette's there will be 02 men out when play is over.
Note:. The one lifeline Bichette has in this is if the contact play was on. If it was then Semien should have just dashed home (on contact = as soon as ball is struck on the ground) and got hung up allowing batter to get to second and Bichette to third
No charge for the lesson
Thanks, Coach.
So, yes, you are saying you prefer there be a rundown between 3rd and home.
And defensively you teach to change the rundown to whatever is closest to home if 2 guys are off base
Which is exactly what Yanks did.
And defensively you teach to change the rundown to whatever is closest to home if 2 guys are off base
Which is exactly what Yanks did.
Which is why you teach the players to not to leave 3rd base when the idiot runner left 2nd and got picked off.
And defensively you teach to change the rundown to whatever is closest to home if 2 guys are off base
Which is exactly what Yanks did.
Which is why you teach the players to not to leave 3rd base when the idiot runner left 2nd and got picked off.
Yeah. The he's dead, ain't nothing I can do" maneuver. Sheer fucking brilliance.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31639015/tampa-bay-rays-say-ace-right-hander-tyler-glasnow-partially-torn-ucl-flexor-tendon-strain
Somehow, I think blaming the fact that MLB is going to start enforcing a rule that has been around for a long time for your injury isn't wise.
Disappointing ending to the weekend in KC.
Go Seattle!
THAT WAS A FUCKING JOKE NOT A SUGGESTION!Sawamura a real findWell, the Sox are 4 up on us, and we are one Aaron Civale blister away from a pitching staff comprising nothing but relievers....
Can Sox - as mediocre as they are - hold on to a playoff spot?
Baseball karma would say no, we'll see
After 10 innings, this game (Bos at TB) is just nuts.
On to the 11th.
I like seven inning rule. Other than being a traditionalist, not sure why one would argue.
I like seven inning rule. Other than being a traditionalist, not sure why one would argue.
Well, why 9?I like seven inning rule. Other than being a traditionalist, not sure why one would argue.
Why 7? Why not 6 or 8 or 5?
Well, why 9?I like seven inning rule. Other than being a traditionalist, not sure why one would argue.
Why 7? Why not 6 or 8 or 5?
I like seven inning rule. Other than being a traditionalist, not sure why one would argue.
Why 7? Why not 6 or 8 or 5?
Why not allow a scheduled 7 inning game to be a no-hitter?
Why not change all the games to be 7 innings?
Why shorten it to 7 innings instead of making double headers take 2 strikes for an out and 3 balls for a walk?
Hey, make extra innings have fewer fielders! That will increase the runs, just like running 3 skaters in OT.
Kid, all the rules are based on tradition. Why not ditch any that make the game take longer?
I like seven inning rule. Other than being a traditionalist, not sure why one would argue.
Why 7? Why not 6 or 8 or 5?
Why not allow a scheduled 7 inning game to be a no-hitter?
Why not change all the games to be 7 innings?
Why shorten it to 7 innings instead of making double headers take 2 strikes for an out and 3 balls for a walk?
Hey, make extra innings have fewer fielders! That will increase the runs, just like running 3 skaters in OT.
Kid, all the rules are based on tradition. Why not ditch any that make the game take longer?
You, sir - are a fucking moron.
Kid, all the rules are based on tradition. Why not ditch any that make the game take longer?
Shortening a long DAY, not just a game.
And focused on player health/overall wellness.
Consecutive hits for the Yankees. The ball should go to Cooperstown.
Holy shit - the GIANTS!
How the hell are they doing this?
9-1 last 10, 50-26 overall
Holy shit - the GIANTS!
How the hell are they doing this?
9-1 last 10, 50-26 overall
Boone cant survive the AS break, can he?Ys looked dead today.
Boone cant survive the AS break, can he?Ys looked dead today.
I posted elsewhere at 6-0, that the Ys had Boonie's back today.
The old man probably would have fired him by now, and no one would complain.
Cleveland Ballet in Right Field yields gruesome injury: https://news.yahoo.com/clevelands-josh-naylor-hospitalized-after-gruesome-ankle-injury-220721522.html (https://news.yahoo.com/clevelands-josh-naylor-hospitalized-after-gruesome-ankle-injury-220721522.html)
Cleveland Ballet in Right Field yields gruesome injury: https://news.yahoo.com/clevelands-josh-naylor-hospitalized-after-gruesome-ankle-injury-220721522.html (https://news.yahoo.com/clevelands-josh-naylor-hospitalized-after-gruesome-ankle-injury-220721522.html)It is bad enough we now have no.starting pitchers, we are now in danger of completely running out of Naylors! I would note that our lack of starters is self inflicted - we have traded a shit ton of really good starting pitching the last few years - but of the four we traded, Cleavinger and Carrasco have not pitched all year, Kluber is toast, so only Trevor Bauer would really be able to help us now. Well, we also traded Plutko, but he does not count as "really good starting pitching".
shaky start
strong finish
good CFBW
its crazyshaky start
strong finish
good CFBW
All that.
But do we have to win so many games CFB?! About half our wins have come that way.
its crazyshaky start
strong finish
good CFBW
All that.
But do we have to win so many games CFB?! About half our wins have come that way.
but they're fun to watch and you sense they feel they're never out of it.
"Joey" is doing a nice job
heh
its crazyshaky start
strong finish
good CFBW
All that.
But do we have to win so many games CFB?! About half our wins have come that way.
but they're fun to watch and you sense they feel they're never out of it.
"Joey" is doing a nice job
heh
Put him in the HALL!
Ohtani had a very short game today, out before the 1st was over.
That the game went into rain delay in the bottom of the 3rd doesn't change that he gave up 7 runs.
And, of course, left them without a hitter to lead off except with pinch hitters.
Brutal loss in da Bronx. An all timer kick in the nuts game.
Brutal loss in da Bronx. An all timer kick in the nuts game.
Wow!
I'd given up on the game at 8-4.
My mistake.
Is Aaron Boone still managing this team after the All Star break?!
In Boone's defense, what was he to do?
...
I'd be interested to hear what Chapman thinks - if he has changed his usage of pine tar/whatever since the new MLB mandate. Ohtani as well.
In his last eight appearances, Chapman has allowed 11 earned runs, three home runs and he has walked eight. In his first 23 appearances, Chapman was practically untouchable, allowing one earned run over 23.1 innings pitched.
German has allowed 17 earned runs over 15.1 innings pitched in his last four starts. The slight 28-year-old has racked up 76 innings this season, after having missed the entire 2020 season serving his 81-game suspension under the MLB/MLBPA joint domestic violence policy. Even back in 2019, when German had his breakout 18-win season going until he was suspended, there was concern about his durability. He was gassed in the second half of the season and was being transitioned to the bullpen for the playoffs when he was suspended.
The spin rate on Chapman's fastball was down 129 rpm. His fastball velocity was also down 2.3 mph overall. But that wasn't all. The spin rate on Chapman's slider was down 184 rpm. CBS Sports, Jun 11, 2021
I think this is all on Cashman.
I think this is all on Cashman.
I think Cashman has generally done a good job in making the Ys competitive for 20+ years. But he's had the advantage of signing big checks that most GMs don't. IMO he's put together a beer league line-up of mashers, who if not hitting dingers, are not all that good at playing baseball.
I thought his one bit of inspired GMing was trading the BP (Miller and Chapman) and restocking the farm
As I recall the idea of firing Girardi, who I thought was a good manager, was for the new guy to be more of a conduit for the thoughts and strategies designed by the GM and the analytical dept. So if we believe that rationale was accurate, Cashman is responsible.
But Boone is probably more exposed to the whims of Hal, and what to get George for his birthday.
Looks like Trevor Bauer has developed a devastating back door slider.😁😂
Hal clearly wants everybody to get along. Good guy, totally. So is Cashman. So is Boone. But you wonder how many more World Series the Red Sox have to win before Steinbrenner the son wakes up, and finally shakes things up on 161st Street.
If Lupica is arguing that the Red Sox should be a model I think he’s correct. If he’s arguing that the Yankees should make personnel decisions based on what the Red Sox are doing or may be doing, he couldn’t be more wrong.
Lupica lauds Henry's approach (he calls Henry the best owner in baseball) which I will define as Henry's openness to taking new paths, and accepting the risk in change.
As a Sox fan I've enjoyed the numerous successes, but at times felt whiplashed by seemingly constant change, from starting 9 to front-office. Say what you will, but its dynamic.
IMO, and just throwing this out, perhaps Henry's success and abilities as a hedge fund manager gives him a solid framework for assessing risk and reward and the trade-offs he must accept.
Lupica lauds Henry's approach (he calls Henry the best owner in baseball) which I will define as Henry's openness to taking new paths, and accepting the risk in change.
As a Sox fan I've enjoyed the numerous successes, but at times felt whiplashed by seemingly constant change, from starting 9 to front-office. Say what you will, but its dynamic.
IMO, and just throwing this out, perhaps Henry's success and abilities as a hedge fund manager gives him a solid framework for assessing risk and reward and the trade-offs he must accept.
It is as good a theory as any, Banks, and better than any I have had.
I wish the Red Sox would stop trying to steal with Gonzales and Santana late in games.
Never in sports history has such a mediocre team occupied so much space in non-fans minds.
Holy shit that was fun.
Wow, the Yankees are bad.
I take it you think it's a good pick?
Had Leiter also been available, would you have taken Leiter, instead?
It's a cost-saving move, they will replace him with Shohei Otani, who seems to easily play multiple roles.
Alonso's ballin'
Where's the "see ya next year" in the poll?
Now why would you do that?
A foreigner, not fluent in English, is awarded the MVP in America's past time.😂😂
Stephen A. Smith will not be happy.
He will however be quiet.
Who watches the ASG?
Sox-Ys game called due to covid-19.
at least 3 Yankees test positive
Hadnt heard about Judge
It was Peralta, Loiasiga and one other (edit - Cortes)
- reported on TMKS
Hadnt heard about Judge
It was Peralta, Loiasiga and one other (edit - Cortes)
- reported on TMKS
And three others not then named.
Good win to start post AS game.
Pretty decent start by ERod and nice 3-inning mop-up by "Goose" Houck.
Ys are hurting, but awinzawin
Privacy, after all.
clown show of a shit show in da Bronx.
2 nights offense was shut down. Just hope it doesn't continue. Can Yankee bats wake to some level of consistency? And will they add a stud? Getting interesting.
2 nights offense was shut down. Just hope it doesn't continue. Can Yankee bats wake to some level of consistency? And will they add a stud? Getting interesting.
I think the "woke" Yankees present a real change.
2 nights offense was shut down. Just hope it doesn't continue. Can Yankee bats wake to some level of consistency? And will they add a stud? Getting interesting.
I think the "woke" Yankees present a real change.
Do you mean challenge?
2 nights offense was shut down. Just hope it doesn't continue. Can Yankee bats wake to some level of consistency? And will they add a stud? Getting interesting.
2 nights offense was shut down. Just hope it doesn't continue. Can Yankee bats wake to some level of consistency? And will they add a stud? Getting interesting.
The Sox O struggled a bit a week before the AS break. Hopefully they'll snap out of it, soon.
As posted before the Ys line-up reminds me of a beer league softball team that can mash, or k a lot.
But beer league teams generally don't play good baseball, but they hit monstrous homers.
Yesterday with a bunch of 4A guys they played a decent game against a very listless Sox team.
My guy Duran must have done something, no?
My guy Duran must have done something, no?
Tatum went yard in the 1st.
heh
Go, Ben!
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/wife-ben-zobrist-divorce-coaxed-him-return
I'm pretty sure that mandated vaccines would be an issue for collective bargaining.
I think the NFL and its union did reach an agreement.I'm pretty sure that mandated vaccines would be an issue for collective bargaining.
Okay, I'm not sure why it is not a requirement in the NFL, then.
But... while it would be a matter for collective bargaining for MLB, I think they're nuts.
And if MLB went the way of one other league, with forfeits from lack of players due to COVID-19, that might fix the problem
I'm pretty sure that mandated vaccines would be an issue for collective bargaining.
She has no claim on potential future earnings, not even with a contract in place, as the contract allows him to stop.
OK, counselor.
As I watch the O's at TB, I am reminded of the TB manager's writing career:
https://www.amazon.com/hell-William-Loeb-Kevin-Cash/dp/B0006CJUY4
Kriskie may not be the answer to WTF do we do with Chapman?
good win.
According to the stat guys
The Yankees' Brooks Kriske is the first pitcher in MLB history to throw 4 wild pitches in a single extra inning.
According to the stat guys
The Yankees' Brooks Kriske is the first pitcher in MLB history to throw 4 wild pitches in a single extra inning.
A game for the ages.
Oy.
Kriskie may not be the answer to WTF do we do with Chapman?
I expect an OF to be added (to Yanks) soon - along with a reliever. Starter? Anyone's guess.
The Cleveland Guardians.Technically, named in honor of the locally iconic Gaurdians of Traffic statutes that mark the entrances to the Hope Memorial Bridge. They could have done worse.
eh
sounds like a brand of rubbers.
when you need the protection in a tight spot-Guardians!
The Cleveland Guardians.Technically, named in honor of the locally iconic Gaurdians of Traffic statutes that mark the entrances to the Hope Memorial Bridge. They could have done worse.
eh
sounds like a brand of rubbers.
when you need the protection in a tight spot-Guardians!
Actually, I think they went with Gaurdians because it was cheaper, since they are keeping the font. Just paint over or unstitch the "In", add "Guar". No reason to go to the expense of new uniforms and logos!
I am totally stealing that one.
The Cleveland Guardians.
eh
sounds like a brand of rubbers.
when you need the protection in a tight spot-Guardians!
Real nice emergency relief work by Valdez to hold the line, and Devers with a pair of bombs.
that was a good win
Evo was in total command and it seemed all but over. Strange game. May get stranger.
Wow
today was like a mirror image of yesterday.
Gerrman was brilliant and deserved better.
But that 8th inning comeback was awesome
no-no gone
shutout gone
lead gone
lead taken
game over
3 out of 4 is right.
BOSTON -- Domingo German was simply dominating the Boston Red Sox. Never more so than in the seventh inning, when the Yankees right-hander struck out stars J.D. Martinez, Rafael Devers, Xander Bogaerts and rookie Jarren Duran.
Sounds like a tangled web for lawyers to get unstuck.
Seems someone in the sport biz is already using Guardians in Cleveland.
Women's Roller Ball.
Somewhere on a banked track Joan Weston is laughing and elbowing someone in the mouth..
http://www.clevelandguardians.com/ (http://www.clevelandguardians.com/)
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-gio-urshela-covid-return-20210725-ufmgqdosQuoteBOSTON -- Domingo German was simply dominating the Boston Red Sox. Never more so than in the seventh inning, when the Yankees right-hander struck out stars J.D. Martinez, Rafael Devers, Xander Bogaerts and rookie Jarren Duran.
Always an odd phrase, that.
Cleveland Guardians....From a man whose favorite team is female horsies.
Sounds like a security outfit that patrols your local mall.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-gio-urshela-covid-return-20210725-ufmgqdosQuoteBOSTON -- Domingo German was simply dominating the Boston Red Sox. Never more so than in the seventh inning, when the Yankees right-hander struck out stars J.D. Martinez, Rafael Devers, Xander Bogaerts and rookie Jarren Duran.
Always an odd phrase, that.
So, he struck out 4 batters in one inning? I guess those extra outs really help out the Sox. over the course of a game.
Cleveland Guardians....From a man whose favorite team is female horsies.
Sounds like a security outfit that patrols your local mall.
Cleveland Guardians....From a man whose favorite team is female horsies.
Sounds like a security outfit that patrols your local mall.
Why do you hate so much?
As far as loyal fans I don't think anyone beats banks or myself. We are here thru thick or thin.
I happen to really be a huge fan of Women's Beach volleyball, but as its under-televised, and not part of my cable offerings, baseball became my fall-back sport.
I happen to really be a huge fan of Women's Beach volleyball, but as its under-televised, and not part of my cable offerings, baseball became my fall-back sport.
I think they do far more fall-back in beach volleyball than baseball, but you would probably know better.
I don't hate. I just find your bile sputtering occasionally amusing to respond to.Cleveland Guardians....From a man whose favorite team is female horsies.
Sounds like a security outfit that patrols your local mall.
Why do you hate so much?
Yesterday's game wasn't lost in the 8th inning. It was lost by runners getting picked off and the continued inability of Stanton to drive in runners from third with less than two out.
You, sir - are a fucking moron
As far as loyal fans I don't think anyone beats banks or myself. We are here thru thick or thin.
Except when you take off for months at a time and come back as somebody else, denying your prior identity for a few more months.
And... nobody wants to beat you, Piggy. You may continue doing that for yourself.
What are the odds of the only real baseball fan knowing nothing about the sport he professes to be the only real fan of? They must be astronomical.
Hey shithead, let's see if you can pull off one post without a lie (I despise the Nationals). I'm rooting for you!! I know you can do it!
As far as loyal fans I don't think anyone beats banks or myself. We are here thru thick or thin.
Except when you take off for months at a time and come back as somebody else, denying your prior identity for a few more months.
And... nobody wants to beat you, Piggy. You may continue doing that for yourself.
Youve been deluded. Unlike you, some of us have a life.
Another by the book CFBW
Sox are making this look easy.
Which means there's a bad burn comin'
Another by the book CFBW
Sox are making this look easy.
Which means there's a bad burn comin'
You couldn’t do it, could you?
Tyler Anderson coming to Philly.
https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1420108931838382092?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1420108931838382092?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
Tyler Anderson coming to Philly.
https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1420108931838382092?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1420108931838382092?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
Is this big news?
Tyler Anderson coming to Philly.
https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1420108931838382092?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1420108931838382092?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
Is this big news?
And is it bigger if that is not where Anderson is going?
Another by the book CFBW
Sox are making this look easy.
Which means there's a bad burn comin'
This 8th inning mojo is lovely, but I sure hate having to rely on it!
Leader of the Party retires
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/jared-kushner-investment-firm/index.html
Do you have an opinion on it?
Yanks add Joely Rodriguez. Nice.
Do you have an opinion on it?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31914214/new-york-yankees-finalizing-deal-acquire-first-baseman-anthony-rizzo-chicago-cubs-sources-say (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31914214/new-york-yankees-finalizing-deal-acquire-first-baseman-anthony-rizzo-chicago-cubs-sources-say)
So Yanks picking up Gallo and Rizzo.
Gallo & Rizzo. Sounds like a restaurant you'd find on Arthur Avenue in the Bronx.
Waiting for Piggy to talk about how badly Terry Francona is letting everybody down and how he's a quitter.
I think there's a huge difference between the situations.
Not his fault your team fired the best manager they've had since Arthur Irwin. Get over it.Waiting for Piggy to talk about how badly Terry Francona is letting everybody down and how he's a quitter.
He's already got the rep.
Asshole.
Mets get Baez?Well, I guess they need a shortstop...
Cool.
Yankees might finally be in a position to DFA Gardner but might be waiting for the return of Elsbury to do so.
Mets get Baez?Well, I guess they need a shortstop...
Cool.
Does anybody other than NL pitchers even practice bunting anymore?
I doubt that
And I am hoping that Robles pitches better than our last new acquisition did last night.
And I am hoping that Robles pitches better than our last new acquisition did last night.
Doubt creeping in ...
Along with Cole whose positive test was announced yesterday, Jordan Montgomery is now positive. Not to put to too fine a point on it, I believe that the Yankees' claim that 85% of their team has been vaccinated is a lie.
The Yankees history of covering up and lying about injuries (Don Gullet will be back next week!!), albeit for other reasons, makes me very cynical about anything they say.
Until these widespread outbreaks occur in teams other than the Yankees and Nationals claiming 85%, I'll consider their claims very suspicious.
Along with Cole whose positive test was announced yesterday, Jordan Montgomery is now positive. Not to put to too fine a point on it, I believe that the Yankees' claim that 85% of their team has been vaccinated is a lie.
Given close quarters and what happened in Nantucket, I have no trouble believing that 85% of them are vaccinated, Yank.
I wonder how many more will test positive.
And the as yet undiscussed thing is that while almost nobody is dying from the breakthrough Delta variant, about 20% of those who do catch it seem to be having the Long Haul version.
p.s Lindsay Graham tested positive, too. He's not pitching for the rest of the season...
Along with Cole whose positive test was announced yesterday, Jordan Montgomery is now positive. Not to put to too fine a point on it, I believe that the Yankees' claim that 85% of their team has been vaccinated is a lie.
Given close quarters and what happened in Nantucket, I have no trouble believing that 85% of them are vaccinated, Yank.
I wonder how many more will test positive.
And the as yet undiscussed thing is that while almost nobody is dying from the breakthrough Delta variant, about 20% of those who do catch it seem to be having the Long Haul version.
p.s Lindsay Graham tested positive, too. He's not pitching for the rest of the season...
OVERTESTING
Vaccinated + no symptoms = no need to test
Cole likely has so little in his nostril, simple trace - that it becomes ridiculous to sit him down
Earlier this week, the CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, also said that new data had revealed that people who are vaccinated and test positive for the virus can carry the same viral load as people who are unvaccinated and test positive for the virus. This research found that cycle threshold (Ct) values in samples from 127 fully vaccinated people and 84 unvaccinated people were similar.
Along with Cole whose positive test was announced yesterday, Jordan Montgomery is now positive. Not to put to too fine a point on it, I believe that the Yankees' claim that 85% of their team has been vaccinated is a lie.
Given close quarters and what happened in Nantucket, I have no trouble believing that 85% of them are vaccinated, Yank.
I wonder how many more will test positive.
And the as yet undiscussed thing is that while almost nobody is dying from the breakthrough Delta variant, about 20% of those who do catch it seem to be having the Long Haul version.
p.s Lindsay Graham tested positive, too. He's not pitching for the rest of the season...
OVERTESTING
Vaccinated + no symptoms = no need to test
Cole likely has so little in his nostril, simple trace - that it becomes ridiculous to sit him down
The Yankees history of covering up and lying about injuries (Don Gullet will be back next week!!), albeit for other reasons, makes me very cynical about anything they say.
Until these widespread outbreaks occur in teams other than the Yankees and Nationals claiming 85%, I'll consider their claims very suspicious.
"This is a pandemic of CASES, not a pandemic of illnesses"No, it is a pandemic of fucking idiots.
- Overheard yesterday on one show or another.
<i>I still think that the way to solve this problem is by forfeiting games, if it is shown that any one person who is linked to it was not vaxxed. Then the clubhouse will respond and be sure that these dopes all get jabbed.</i>
I like the idea. I doubt the union will. And I believe such a policy would probably have to be negotiated.
I think they discussed it with the union.<i>I still think that the way to solve this problem is by forfeiting games, if it is shown that any one person who is linked to it was not vaxxed. Then the clubhouse will respond and be sure that these dopes all get jabbed.</i>
I like the idea. I doubt the union will. And I believe such a policy would probably have to be negotiated.
I believe the NFL is putting this in.
<i>I still think that the way to solve this problem is by forfeiting games, if it is shown that any one person who is linked to it was not vaxxed. Then the clubhouse will respond and be sure that these dopes all get jabbed.</i>
I like the idea. I doubt the union will. And I believe such a policy would probably have to be negotiated.
I believe the NFL is putting this in.
https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/2020-tokyo-olympics-team-usa-baseball-defeats-dominican-republic-moves-a-win-away-from-gold-medal-game/amp/ (https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/2020-tokyo-olympics-team-usa-baseball-defeats-dominican-republic-moves-a-win-away-from-gold-medal-game/amp/)
Team USA defeated the Dominican Republic by a 3-1 score as part of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics baseball tournament on Tuesday night. As a result, the Americans will now advance to play South Korea on Thursday with a spot in the gold medal game vs. Japan on the line.
Team USA jumped ahead early, staking out a 2-0 lead in the bottom of the first inning thanks to a two-run home run by Boston Red Sox first base prospect Triston Casas. Neither team scored again until the bottom of the fifth, when the Americans' advantage swelled to 3-0 thanks to a solo home run by Tyler Austin. (Austin had also scored as part of Casas' homer.)
On the pitching side of things, Team USA was paced by veteran southpaw Scott Kazmir. He delivered five shutout innings for the Americans, holding the Dominican Republican to just two hits and a walk. Kazmir struck out five of the 18 batters he faced and threw 80 pitches overall. The Americans then received four shutout innings from a combination of four relievers: Brandon Dickson, Scott McGough, Anthony Gose and David Robertson.
Holy smokes! Turned off White Sox at Cubs entering bottom 7, Lance Lynn with the tidy 3 hit shutout going - Sox up 2-0.
Final was 8-6 White Sox
Meanwhile Latino idiocy rules the night for Sox
Sox could have used an injection of something
they've been listless for awhile now
lots of time left but they better schnapp out of it
PDQ
No Sox snap in Game 1
and no crackle or pop
no runs either.
Have I mentioned how much I dislike Marwin Gonzalez and Franchy Cordero?!
Instead of dividing people refusing vaccines into Republican/Democratic camps, can’t we just use moron/non-moron?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/yankees/2021/08/08/anthony-rizzo-covid-19-yankees/5530581001/
Rizzo refused the vaccine with the Cubs.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/yankees/2021/08/08/anthony-rizzo-covid-19-yankees/5530581001/
Rizzo refused the vaccine with the Cubs.
Likely BS from this pay site
“I love my teammates. I love this franchise, and I do everything I can to win here. But with this stuff, this is bigger than baseball," he said in June. "This is a life decision. This isn’t a career decision right now.”
Fun first day
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 2
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 2
5-5 after 10
Well...
It took many many decades....
Tonight I start following/pulling for the NY/AL club.
Rough week for a Sox/Mets fan.
kid is Elba's Suzyn Waldman, except not as hot.
or smart
or loyal
Fandom, true fandom, is like the Hotel California, you can check out anytime you like, but can never leave.
Chuckling at Bankshot thinking Waldman is hot.
No. Ham (finally heard from with fervor on Phils) - I am still with the Mets, though I do not like the MGR.
that was a helluva 9th.
A corny Hollywood ending but it worked for me
Not good form, Brett Anderson
https://dodgersway.com/2021/08/16/dodgers-brett-anderson-buries-trevor-bauer-in-perfect-tweet/?a_aid=01234&fbclid=IwAR1Jg95XsXJn8B0xJuVIiST_d8VDGI5mw5SIlQWdcWCF5CbwJq5ZMG-xwIw
Nice bullpen management today by JOEY
Red Sox had two nights in a row without losing. Probably won't lose on Sunday or Monday, either. And if they don't shift tomorrow's game earlier, which they likely won't, we might make it 5 days in a row without losing a game.
Sure, only one will have seen a game get played, but... Saleand ERodand pray for rain? Somebody has been praying really hard!
Aaron Nola pitched a gem, until...
Ugh.
Aaron Nola pitched a gem, until...
Ugh.
Until for some reason Girardi tried to let him finish
Whitlock!
Joey - wising up.
Wasnt complaining that it was Whitlock
Your inability to follow even the basics of the game is stunning.
It didn't go down tonight.
I guess 90 pitches (season high) was the magic number for HOUCK. Joey took his win away.
More importantly - couldnt get the winning run in from 3rd in the ninth - with one out.
But....
WELCOME, SCHWARBER.
More importantly - couldnt get the winning run in from 3rd in the ninth - with one out.
But....
WELCOME, SCHWARBER.
Not to replay a hypothetical game, but if Vaz runs on anything with two out, rather than losing track of the outs, Schwarber's 2-run dinger is the walk-off game winner.
Verdugo's AB was pretty bad, just hit a fucking flyball, but Vaz base running brain fart was brutal, if he was paying attention he scores 100% of the time.
More importantly - couldnt get the winning run in from 3rd in the ninth - with one out.
But....
WELCOME, SCHWARBER.
Not to replay a hypothetical game, but if Vaz runs on anything with two out, rather than losing track of the outs, Schwarber's 2-run dinger is the walk-off game winner.
Verdugo's AB was pretty bad, just hit a fucking flyball, but Vaz base running brain fart was brutal, if he was paying attention he scores 100% of the time.
What play are you talking about? What inning?
Sox bounce back with a walk and a lot of runs in the park win
12-2
that was a damn fine CFBW
reminded me of WBW in May
Ohtani HBP on pitching hand. Doesnt look good.
Ohtani HBP on pitching hand. Doesnt look good.
Oh no!
That's terrible. I hope he's okay or recovers swiftly.
looked like a win
smelled like a win
quacked like a win
Sox should have ducked
ducking ugly loss
I guess you don't like the Chavis deal...
Most consecutive games reaching base safely, players age 20 & under (since 1901):
1956 Frank Robinson: 43
1951-52 Mickey Mantle: 36
1932 Arky Vaughan: 33
1929 Mel Ott: 33
1928-29 Mel Ott: 30
2021 Wander Franco: 29*
* active streak extended today
Another stellar game on the mound and defensively by the Sox.
TB better watch out!
Another stellar game on the mound and defensively by the Sox.
TB better watch out!
this is a test
no this is a test
you're both wrong this is the test
sorry Elba but something weird just happened in a post, so I'm testing
I may be wrong but I think Ward/Red hasn't voluntarily read my posts since 2015.this is a test
no this is a test
you're both wrong this is the test
sorry Elba but something weird just happened in a post, so I'm testing
Ward is censoring your baseball posts.
I may be wrong but I think Ward/Red hasn't voluntarily read my posts since 2015.this is a test
no this is a test
you're both wrong this is the test
sorry Elba but something weird just happened in a post, so I'm testing
Ward is censoring your baseball posts.
My problem post was in the Biden forum earlier this afternoon.
Rosenthal: Red Sox, other teams with lower vaccination rates may be jeopardizing postseason chances as well as health
You hear it all the time from players:
Well that was fun.
So what's a little late inning whiplash?
Nothing like having your starting pitcher put on the COVID-19 list right before the game he was going to start and giving a pitcher a chance to make his MLB debut in the middle of post-season chase.
Nothing like having your starting pitcher put on the COVID-19 list right before the game he was going to start and giving a pitcher a chance to make his MLB debut in the middle of post-season chase.
But hey, he only gave up 4 runs.
Cashman has done a fine job with developing young pitchers this year but Rizzo replacing Voight is crazy. Luke is batting over .400 last few weeks while Rizzo will never see the mendoza line again.
Another stellar game on the mound and defensively by the Sox.
TB better watch out!
Watching the Sox play defense this year, it has become abundantly clear, and the stats bear me out, that unfortunately the only thing they are good at catching is covid.
Sox getting Iglesias - sweet
Another stellar game on the mound and defensively by the Sox.
TB better watch out!
Watching the Sox play defense this year, it has become abundantly clear, and the stats bear me out, that unfortunately the only thing they are good at catching is covid.
Today echoes your sentiment.
HOLY COW! Here come the Blue Jays! Won 5 straight, 7 of 8Theoretical possibilities. Not even Cyber Ninjas can cook those books.
Crazy game - even Indians are in it
voit has 8 homers and 31 rbi Rizzo 4 and 13 as yankees this year.
voit has 8 homers and 31 rbi Rizzo 4 and 13 as yankees this year.
voit has 8 homers and 31 rbi Rizzo 4 and 13 as yankees this year.
voit has 8 homers and 31 rbi Rizzo 4 and 13 as yankees this year.
Voit has twice as many ABS as well.
voit has 8 homers and 31 rbi Rizzo 4 and 13 as yankees this year.
Voit has twice as many ABS as well.
Voit led the majors in homeruns last year and does not need replacing. Luke is on the bench because Cashman made a useless trade. Rizzo got a few bloops recently.
whatafucking(ren)throw!
Missed it by that much.
OTOH, the Yankees and Toronto (and TB) lost.
Congratulations to Cleveland's record setting offense!
A gut check fucking ugly but weirdly awesome CFBW game
You know what else is stunning? Zach Plesac was theCongratulations to Cleveland's record setting offense!
Pretty stunning.
A gut check fucking ugly but weirdly awesome CFBW game
Quiz for today.....
Top 20 all time Dodgers in franchise history - ranked by WAR (wins above replacement player)
17 are from 1950 on - dont expect you to get the other 3. Order not important, though the guy on top is a bit of a surprise
Quiz for today.....
Top 20 all time Dodgers in franchise history - ranked by WAR (wins above replacement player)
17 are from 1950 on - dont expect you to get the other 3. Order not important, though the guy on top is a bit of a surprise
Naming 20 Dodgers over history is tough enough! 20 Yankees or Orioles would be much easier. Could probably do 20 Pirates more easily, Cards, too.
Snider
Wills
Koufax
Garvey
Cey
Drysdale
Campanella
Piazza
Hodges
Reese
Smith (Reggie)
Davis (T)
Davis (W)
Bellinger
Mota (No, I do not expect him to be on the list, but he is somebody I remember, if more for pinch hitting than anything else.)
Nobody liked my last trivia question.
Try this one:
When did MLB last have four teams that lost 100 games in a season?!
This kind of inexplicable fall off for young non-pitchers is pretty rare. Usually, I assume, injuries are involved, but I don't really think that's the case with Torres. I guess it happened similarly with Carl Crawford (no injuries) and if I had any patience I'd look for some more.
Matt Barnes returns from the gulag
Entering today - by games above .500
AL
Boston 20
Toronto 18
New York 17
Oakland 14
NL
Los Angeles 41
St Louis 9
Cincinnati 5
Philadelphia 4
San Diego 4
YES! Yanks gain a game.
Didn't they gain a game on Toronto?
YES! Yanks gain a game.
Half a game, Kid.
Really having a tough time keeping track, are you?
YES! Yanks gain a game.
Half a game, Kid.
Really having a tough time keeping track, are you?
No. A game.
Yanks were out of playoffs before yesterday by 1.5 games.
Big loss for A's who would have been just a game out
Did Kiermaier do anything wrong?
https://www.mlb.com/news/rays-blue-jays-kevin-kiermaier-pitching-card
Sure, he did
And knew so as soon as he got to his dugout.
Dont put words in other's mouths.
There's class in this game - and there is trash
Keirmeier lies in between.
You're addled.
Is that an insult? I forgive you.
You're addled.
Is that an insult? I forgive you.
Evo had nothing last night and he and the Sox got pounded.
Here's hoping they bounce back today with a better effort and a W.
and their traditional home whites.
I didn't mind the UCLA/San Diego Charger California mellow yellows.
But as the eminent baseball philosopher Crash Davis once sagely opined,
"never fuck with a winning streak"
Evo had nothing last night and he and the Sox got pounded.
Here's hoping they bounce back today with a better effort and a W.
and their traditional home whites.
I didn't mind the UCLA/San Diego Charger California mellow yellows.
But as the eminent baseball philosopher Crash Davis once sagely opined,
"never fuck with a winning streak"
Looks like the Ukrainian baseball team!
Unprofessional look, for sure.
Evo had nothing last night and he and the Sox got pounded.
Here's hoping they bounce back today with a better effort and a W.
and their traditional home whites.
I didn't mind the UCLA/San Diego Charger California mellow yellows.
But as the eminent baseball philosopher Crash Davis once sagely opined,
"never fuck with a winning streak"
Looks like the Ukrainian baseball team!
Unprofessional look, for sure.
This is probably before your time, but almost 50 years ago, the 1972-74 Oakland As wore similarly striking bright gold and green uniforms in an otherwise fashion drab MLB.
And they won 3 World Series in such fashion forward garb.
BTW I'm not familiar with Ukrainian baseball.
Phils may be the worst playoff team since the '73 Metropolitans
They punched the right one last night
They got the left one tonight.
Nice umping Cowboy Joe.
AL wild card win totals
89
88
87
86
85
2 get in - anything can happen with 6 left
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2021-09-25/woman-and-child-die-after-fall-at-petco-park-before-padres-game (https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2021-09-25/woman-and-child-die-after-fall-at-petco-park-before-padres-game)https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5WWVBnBMnqc
Did she have help?
AL wild card win totals
89
88
87
86
85
2 get in - anything can happen with 6 left
Jays will prevail.
I wonder if Kid actually thinks that calling Alex Cora by his brother's name is amusing.People who make personal in jokes that amuse only themselves and run them into the ground are pathetic.
Six playing Russian Roulette to start the bottom of the 9th😀😀Sox stupid word thingy
And the gun doesn't go off. Where has that Matt Barnes been??????
We really need to teach our athletes (and others) anger management.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/29/us/brewers-pitcher-devin-williams-wall-punch-injury-spt/index.html
We really need to teach our athletes (and others) anger management.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/29/us/brewers-pitcher-devin-williams-wall-punch-injury-spt/index.html
We really need to teach our athletes (and others) anger management.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/29/us/brewers-pitcher-devin-williams-wall-punch-injury-spt/index.html
Yeah!!
What about college professors?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hut3VRL5XRE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hut3VRL5XRE)
Give me a Sox guy to have a big weekend
Verdugo? Kike?
hehGive me a Sox guy to have a big weekend
Verdugo? Kike?
Never mind - couldnt get either player. Need an outfielder to replace Nimmo for 3 (make it 2) days - holding on for dear life to a 7 RBI lead. Nimmo has 2 in September I think. Heh.
"Her diptheria, she's been here ten years now."
Are balls and strikes worse than they used to be two or three years ago?
Are balls and strikes worse than they used to be two or three years ago?
Thats a good question.
I remember WBW when umps had more predictable strikes zones, a strike was a strike and a ball a ball, I took my girl friend to the game. And I kissed her on the strikes and she kissed me on the balls. Great game.
Speaking of great games, Houck goes 5 perfect innings, Sox nurse a 1-run lead, until the shit lits the fan, but LSS, the bats explode in the 9th for 4 and a real good win.
Not dead yet.
So we need Boston and NY to lose, and Seattle and Toronto to win for maximum chaos?
So we need Boston and NY to lose, and Seattle and Toronto to win for maximum chaos?
So we need Boston and NY to lose, and Seattle and Toronto to win for maximum chaos?
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHATAFUCKINGWIN!
Joey took a team that was predicted as an 81-win team, work in progress, not ready for the post-season rebuilding team and got them to the year-end invitation only party.
He did ok.
From Todd Zolecki at MLB.com on Bryce Harper:
He finished the season slashing .309/.429/.615 with 42 doubles, one triple, 35 home runs, 84 RBIs, 101 runs, 100 walks, 13 stolen bases and a 1.044 OPS. He is the fourth outfielder in baseball history to have at least 100 runs, 100 walks, 40 doubles and 35 home runs in a season, joining Babe Ruth (1921, 1923), Stan Musial (1949) and Barry Bonds (1998).
Between the anti-Cora voice of The Kid and the misanthropic tones of Hamilton, you would think that Eeyore and Marvin the Paranoid Android were posting instead of humans.
Between the anti-Cora voice of The Kid and the misanthropic tones of Hamilton, you would think that Eeyore and Marvin the Paranoid Android were posting instead of humans.
Happy to see class acts like Bogearts and JD Martinez make the post. And the kid VERDUGO, the only way to stomach losing Betts, come up big in key spot.
Future bright? Not so sure - but Boston has the NOW.
Nice poll
How do you vote?
MLB.co "experts" picks
8-2 in favor of Dodgers
7-3 in favor of Yanks
https://www.mlb.com/news/2021-mlb-playoff-expert-predictions
All ten of them?
You're such a fool. I was simply lining them up as our tallies were being recorded - for comparison.
Do you have any links to articles picking the Yankees in the 2018 ALDS? The Red Sox were pretty solid favorites, they won 8 more games than the Yankees that season and the Yankees ace, (such as it was) wasn't going to pitch until Game 3 of that series.MLB.co "experts" picks
8-2 in favor of Dodgers
7-3 in favor of Yanks
https://www.mlb.com/news/2021-mlb-playoff-expert-predictions
They also predicted that Houston would win the WS in 2018 and that NY would beat Boston in the ALDS. Oh, and the Dodgers would not make it to the World Series.
Thanks for the link.
It is in G Cole's hands, I believe
I would like to see more off speed stuff - for Cole to pitch a little backwards - and not just vs JD, Xander and Devers
2 outs into the seventh (6 2/3+) with 2 runs or less - or Yanks lose.
Pulling for the guy.
It is in G Cole's hands, I believe
I would like to see more off speed stuff - for Cole to pitch a little backwards - and not just vs JD, Xander and Devers
2 outs into the seventh (6 2/3+) with 2 runs or less - or Yanks lose.
Pulling for the guy.
Cole has yet to show the stones to warrant your faith in him.
Do you have any links to articles picking the Yankees in the 2018 ALDS? The Red Sox were pretty solid favorites, they won 8 more games than the Yankees that season and the Yankees ace, (such as it was) wasn't going to pitch until Game 3 of that series.MLB.co "experts" picks
8-2 in favor of Dodgers
7-3 in favor of Yanks
https://www.mlb.com/news/2021-mlb-playoff-expert-predictions
They also predicted that Houston would win the WS in 2018 and that NY would beat Boston in the ALDS. Oh, and the Dodgers would not make it to the World Series.
Thanks for the link.
DeRosa? One guy hardly makes a "they" (gender fluidity pronoun revisions aside). As I said the Red Sox were pretty substantial favorites over the Yankees in 2018 and turning that team into a "little engine that could" to make a point about this season's predictions makes no sense.Do you have any links to articles picking the Yankees in the 2018 ALDS? The Red Sox were pretty solid favorites, they won 8 more games than the Yankees that season and the Yankees ace, (such as it was) wasn't going to pitch until Game 3 of that series.MLB.co "experts" picks
8-2 in favor of Dodgers
7-3 in favor of Yanks
https://www.mlb.com/news/2021-mlb-playoff-expert-predictions
They also predicted that Houston would win the WS in 2018 and that NY would beat Boston in the ALDS. Oh, and the Dodgers would not make it to the World Series.
Thanks for the link.
Toyota.
https://www.mlb.com/video/mlb-central-playoff-predictions-c2513796483
DeRosa? One guy hardly makes a "they" (gender fluidity pronoun revisions aside). As I said the Red Sox were pretty substantial favorites over the Yankees in 2018 and turning that team into a "little engine that could" to make a point about this season's predictions makes no sense.Do you have any links to articles picking the Yankees in the 2018 ALDS? The Red Sox were pretty solid favorites, they won 8 more games than the Yankees that season and the Yankees ace, (such as it was) wasn't going to pitch until Game 3 of that series.MLB.co "experts" picks
8-2 in favor of Dodgers
7-3 in favor of Yanks
https://www.mlb.com/news/2021-mlb-playoff-expert-predictions
They also predicted that Houston would win the WS in 2018 and that NY would beat Boston in the ALDS. Oh, and the Dodgers would not make it to the World Series.
Thanks for the link.
Toyota.
https://www.mlb.com/video/mlb-central-playoff-predictions-c2513796483
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10013654-106-win-wild-card-dodgers-should-be-final-straw-for-mlbs-broken-playoff-format
Who is first up after Nate?
A-Rod still doesnt know that if Nevin held Judge its FIRST and third, not second and third
And this after seeing a great replay of Stanton holding up after rounding first.
So that 3rd strike that was called a ball and resulted in a walk leads to a run.
Shame.
So that 3rd strike that was called a ball and resulted in a walk leads to a run.
Shame.
Not the first time that has happened.
And the balls and strikes suck.
A-Rod still doesnt know that if Nevin held Judge its FIRST and third, not second and third
And this after seeing a great replay of Stanton holding up after rounding first.
Yes, first and third. You're right. But on the road, down runs, you don't send Judge.
Fucking glorious!
Like Christmas in July.
I didn't like pulling Evo but Joey (heh) managed a helluva game.
Good game Joey!
Will Sox wear those piss yellow unis in Tampa?
Fucking glorious!
Like Christmas in July.
I didn't like pulling Evo but Joey (heh) managed a helluva game.
Good game Joey!
Out of hiding?
Frontrunner.
I like being right. I hate that the game sucked. Maybe tomorrow.
Besides the poor umping, what made it a shitty game?
It wasn't an all time classic, by any means, but it was a close game through 6 and a half innings. And having watched the Yankees hang a 4 spot on the Sox in late innings more than once in the 2nd half of the season to overcome deficits, it is not as if the Yankees were out of it.
The announcers kept discussing the bullpen as Boston's weak spot.
It turned out not to be as easily exploited as they suggested it might be, but that doesn't make it a shitty game.
I also wonder if Gallo being up next was part of Nevin's thought process.
I also wonder if Gallo being up next was part of Nevin's thought process.
I heard this earlier on a FaceBook page
It's utter nonsense.
If Judge reads the hit and cuts the bases like Bogaerts he likely scores.Always the contrarian, Kid knows things.
kid does hot takes real well,, not so much on facts.If Judge reads the hit and cuts the bases like Bogaerts he likely scores.Always the contrarian, Kid knows things.
I DO know things, Yankguy. And I know what to look for. Alex Rodriguez is stealing a check - and Vazgergian is allowing it.
We all know things. But most of us know enough not to confuse opinion with fact.
That's not what I was referring to. The FACT is that I've long known I know as much baseball as you do, but don't presume to know what goes on in a third-base coach's head.We all know things. But most of us know enough not to confuse opinion with fact.
It is not OPINION that if Nevin holds Judge then Stanton is not on second base. He simply isn't. Someone should clue in Rodriguez - and you as well, evidently.
That home plate ump was brutal early on with a strike zone seemingly determined by whim or coin flip.
Casual fans often thrown off by the TV box.
That home plate ump was brutal early on with a strike zone seemingly determined by whim or coin flip.I don't know the commentary on ESPN last night, but I saw the many replays of strikes outside box which ESPN chose to show and heard the home plate ump getting skewered on 'EEI for bad calls for both teams t I know the home plate ump had a very inconsistent zone last night. So kid drop your know it all bullshit as most here know you are a hot take moron.
Casual fans often thrown off by the TV box.
The one thing A-Rod did allude to that was right is that umps have different - and unique zones - Alex citing how this particular guy would not call the high pitch on the inner corner to a lefty but WOULD call it on the outer corner. Showed he did some homework.
Now if he calls the same pitch in the same location 2 different things in the same inning - you got him.
Maybe this was a B- game for the HP. But I'd be surprised - as these assignments are doled out on efficiency.
I think the marginal chance of Sanchez' maybe running into a pitch wasn't worth the gamble of an OF of Stanton, Judge and Rizzo.
I don't expect Boone to be back, but this year's team was Cashman's.
I think the marginal chance of Sanchez' maybe running into a pitch wasn't worth the gamble of an OF of Stanton, Judge and Rizzo.
I don't expect Boone to be back, but this year's team was Cashman's.
You are going by the box, right?
Not this year.I think the marginal chance of Sanchez' maybe running into a pitch wasn't worth the gamble of an OF of Stanton, Judge and Rizzo.
I don't expect Boone to be back, but this year's team was Cashman's.
I thought Sanchez had good numbers vs Sox.
Five of us thought Red Sox, one Yankees.:-X
Dont be embarrassed, YG
Five of us thought Red Sox, one Yankees.Hey, dummy. I picked the Red Sox. And when I explained why you found it stupid.
Dont be embarrassed, YG
Dodgers do not look sharp so far!
Red Sox and Dodgers.
Dodgers do not look sharp so far!
Quite the ending!Sort of with an *
Dodgers go on to the next level - Giants vs. Dodgers, the rivalry finally getting to be head to head in the post-season!
Quite the ending!Sort of with an *
Dodgers go on to the next level - Giants vs. Dodgers, the rivalry finally getting to be head to head in the post-season!
yes and no. Check out 1962.Quite the ending!Sort of with an *
Dodgers go on to the next level - Giants vs. Dodgers, the rivalry finally getting to be head to head in the post-season!
Why?
Did I miss something?
yes and no. Check out 1962.Quite the ending!Sort of with an *
Dodgers go on to the next level - Giants vs. Dodgers, the rivalry finally getting to be head to head in the post-season!
Why?
Did I miss something?
Hate the Dodgers, but that was a great baseball game, last night.Yes, because there is nothing so exciting as watching a pitcher bat, except maybe the staggering managerial genius and sublime beauty of a well executed double switch.
NL baseball is so much more entertaining!!
Hate the Dodgers, but that was a great baseball game, last night.Yes, because there is nothing so exciting as watching a pitcher bat, except maybe the staggering managerial genius and sublime beauty of a well executed double switch.
NL baseball is so much more entertaining!!
So, three sac bunts and 60 times he flailed pathetically at the plate, including one instance where thanks to the law of averages he hit the ball hard enough to get it to the outfield? Excitement!Hate the Dodgers, but that was a great baseball game, last night.Yes, because there is nothing so exciting as watching a pitcher bat, except maybe the staggering managerial genius and sublime beauty of a well executed double switch.
NL baseball is so much more entertaining!!
Both pitchers got a sac bunt down last night. Either could have led to a hugely important run.
Amazing stat on Scherzer though
0 for 59 with 3 sac bunts and a sac fly for the year.
Hate the Dodgers, but that was a great baseball game, last night.Yes, because there is nothing so exciting as watching a pitcher bat, except maybe the staggering managerial genius and sublime beauty of a well executed double switch.
NL baseball is so much more entertaining!!
Both pitchers got a sac bunt down last night. Either could have led to a hugely important run.
Amazing stat on Scherzer though
0 for 59 with 3 sac bunts and a sac fly for the year.
They can go find a league that doesn't use the DH. If there is one.Hate the Dodgers, but that was a great baseball game, last night.Yes, because there is nothing so exciting as watching a pitcher bat, except maybe the staggering managerial genius and sublime beauty of a well executed double switch.
NL baseball is so much more entertaining!!
Both pitchers got a sac bunt down last night. Either could have led to a hugely important run.
Amazing stat on Scherzer though
0 for 59 with 3 sac bunts and a sac fly for the year.
This year is an anomaly for him - he used to be an above average hitter as pitchers go. He was no Max Fried, but you still had to pitch to him.
He's among the NL pitchers on record as not objecting to the switch to DH for their league.
I imagine the purists are just going to be stuck watching reruns.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/tv-ratings-tuesday-oct-5-2021-1235026752/ (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/tv-ratings-tuesday-oct-5-2021-1235026752/)
ESPN (7.12 million) and ESPN2 (573,000) combined for 7.69 million viewers for the AL wild card game, the most for any wild card matchup since 2015. It was also the biggest audience for a wild card game on ESPN since 1998 and was up 67 percent from the last time ESPN and ESPN2 had the AL wild card in 2019 (4.54 million).
I guess marketing Bucky F Dent nostalgia over rode the glaring omission of pitchers striking out or the intricate beauty of the double switch and goosed WC ratings.
Hate the Dodgers, but that was a great baseball game, last night.Yes, because there is nothing so exciting as watching a pitcher bat, except maybe the staggering managerial genius and sublime beauty of a well executed double switch.
NL baseball is so much more entertaining!!
Certainly don't know/appreciate strategyAn 8 year old can figure out the strategy of a pitcher's at bat. Hell, Mayo Smith could do it.
It was cool seeing Dave Roberts let Pujols swing 3-0
Given analytics growing role in managerial decisions, and how to approach the game and the game inside the game (match-ups, or how to deal with the 3 batter rule) has negated the purists objection to the DH as a serious argument. With starters going 3 or 4 innings being more common and openers being used more and more, analytics in all of baseball and strategic decisions regarding when to pull the starting pitcher dwarfs the dh role in the game.The game evolves. The rules evolve. And after the new CBA, Forrest will need to move to a city with a team in Japan's Central League to watch what he considers real baseball because they will be the only league without the DH. Or he could just sit on a rocking chair boring local kids with rants about how much better things were in the old days when pitchers batted, you could make racist comments without getting called out and you could throw snowballs at Santa with impunity. Now get off my lawn!
And kid, the last defender of Grady's gaffe, arguably the dumbest managerial fuck-up ever, lecturing about not understanding strategy is pretty fucking funny.
That's not really the issue for me but you could expand in the thought and I will listen
So you wanted Pujols vs Gallegos? That's cool. I have to search a little, see if I can find an article re Schildt decision
Nevin hits back at A-Rod
https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-yankees/yankees-third-base-coach-explains-controversial-decision-to-send-aaron-judge-home/?fbclid=IwAR3oLAV3zR8XYBK57y7QpKefDvrrK4IbFlCr4Zs_seS11Y1RfNv5bdg09uQ
Rays are real good
Too much Arozarena and too much shit for luck BABIP
let's try some hit 'em where they ain't in G2
the sun will come out tomorrow
damn shame the Sox won't see it in that fucking dump.
Rays are real good
Too much Arozarena and too much shit for luck BABIP
let's try some hit 'em where they ain't in G2
the sun will come out tomorrow
damn shame the Sox won't see it in that fucking dump.
Not an inspiring game for the Red Sox.
"Devers and Martinez can benefit from being injured because in the post season less is more"
The great ALEX RODRIGUEZ
Nevin hits back at A-Rod
https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-yankees/yankees-third-base-coach-explains-controversial-decision-to-send-aaron-judge-home/?fbclid=IwAR3oLAV3zR8XYBK57y7QpKefDvrrK4IbFlCr4Zs_seS11Y1RfNv5bdg09uQ
He's attacking ARod, but his defense of his decision is pretty weak.
Rays are real good
Both sets of Sox got laundered last night, each a little more pale this morning---and in Chicago, that's saying something.
I like the best of 5's, though. They really put a lot of pressure on both teams to play their best baseball.
The All-time greatest best of 5 series, for any fan of real baseball was the 1980 Phillies-Astros NLCS, with Game 5 being one of the best play-off games ever to be played.
The Phillies series featured 4 extra inning games, all of which took considerably less time to play than the LAD/Cardinals game the other night.
Game 5, an 8-7 Championship clinching win for the Phillies, was a 10 inning affair, lasting 3 hours and 38 minutes, well less than that Dodgers 9 inning game the other night. The Astros had won a one-game play-off against those Dodgers, btw, to get into the play-offs. Nolan Ryan started the game vs rookie Marty Bystrom, at home in the Dome, and it certainly looked like Houston would have the edge going into the game.
The game was tied 2-2 going into the bottom of the 7th, when the Astros scored 3 runs to take a 5-2 lead. Ryan was still pitching when the Phillies answered in the top of the 8th, loading the bases and getting a walk by Rose off Ryan to make it 5-3. Then relievers Joe Sambito and Ken Frosch failed to hold the Phils down, and they scored 4 more runs to take a 7-5 lead.
In the bottom of the 8th, the Astros came right back and scored 2 to tie it off of Tug McGraw (who was being asked to get a two inning save, having already pitched in the previous 4 games).
At 7-7, in the 10th, Del Unser and Garry Maddox both doubled to give the Phils an 8-7 lead. Dick Ruthven retired three Astros hitters in the 10th, and the Phils went off to the World Series, their second in franchise history, and the first they'd ever win since 1888, when the losingest franchise in all of sports began it's strange history.
Nolan Ryan called the game the biggest loss I've ever had...and...more emotional than any game I have ever been in.
Both sets of Sox got laundered last night, each a little more pale this morning---and in Chicago, that's saying something.
I like the best of 5's, though. They really put a lot of pressure on both teams to play their best baseball.
The All-time greatest best of 5 series, for any fan of real baseball was the 1980 Phillies-Astros NLCS, with Game 5 being one of the best play-off games ever to be played.
The Phillies series featured 4 extra inning games, all of which took considerably less time to play than the LAD/Cardinals game the other night.
Game 5, an 8-7 Championship clinching win for the Phillies, was a 10 inning affair, lasting 3 hours and 38 minutes, well less than that Dodgers 9 inning game the other night. The Astros had won a one-game play-off against those Dodgers, btw, to get into the play-offs. Nolan Ryan started the game vs rookie Marty Bystrom, at home in the Dome, and it certainly looked like Houston would have the edge going into the game.
The game was tied 2-2 going into the bottom of the 7th, when the Astros scored 3 runs to take a 5-2 lead. Ryan was still pitching when the Phillies answered in the top of the 8th, loading the bases and getting a walk by Rose off Ryan to make it 5-3. Then relievers Joe Sambito and Ken Frosch failed to hold the Phils down, and they scored 4 more runs to take a 7-5 lead.
In the bottom of the 8th, the Astros came right back and scored 2 to tie it off of Tug McGraw (who was being asked to get a two inning save, having already pitched in the previous 4 games).
At 7-7, in the 10th, Del Unser and Garry Maddox both doubled to give the Phils an 8-7 lead. Dick Ruthven retired three Astros hitters in the 10th, and the Phils went off to the World Series, their second in franchise history, and the first they'd ever win since 1888, when the losingest franchise in all of sports began it's strange history.
Nolan Ryan called the game the biggest loss I've ever had...and...more emotional than any game I have ever been in.
Good memory
Would love to see that 8th inning - particularly the Rose at bat. Not just for the drama but to hear how analysts handled Ryan still being in the game at the beginning of the frame - as it progressed and when it got to Rose's spot with bases juiced.
As if ARod was the only one to criticize the send. That is not the case. It's not a good read, it's not a good play, Phil. Only one team had more players thrown out at home than the Y's this season in the AL---KC.
I side with Nevin - and again note Judge's hesitation and poor path to home
Fans want to assume Yanks score again there if Nevin holds Judge - and forget they still had a chance to after Aaron was gunned down. Very "fannish".
And A-Rod still thinks Stanton ends up on second. Heh. (Glad the article I linked to had Giancarlo on FIRST had Nevin helf Judge)
As if ARod was the only one to criticize the send. That is not the case. It's not a good read, it's not a good play, Phil. Only one team had more players thrown out at home than the Y's this season in the AL---KC.
I side with Nevin - and again note Judge's hesitation and poor path to home
Fans want to assume Yanks score again there if Nevin holds Judge - and forget they still had a chance to after Aaron was gunned down. Very "fannish".
And A-Rod still thinks Stanton ends up on second. Heh. (Glad the article I linked to had Giancarlo on FIRST had Nevin helf Judge)
So...
are White Sox too young to give Astros a go?
Is it all on the pitching - LYNN wearing the goat horns Game 1?
I figured this for 5 - but the way McCullers threw the ball looks almost like CHI had better win three straight now
You side with Nevin because you hate ARod.
I have posted favorably on Rodriguez
So...
are White Sox too young to give Astros a go?
Is it all on the pitching - LYNN wearing the goat horns Game 1?
I figured this for 5 - but the way McCullers threw the ball looks almost like CHI had better win three straight now
If they win the next game, it's back to Chi-town tied. Which is usually the goal.
Goals count more than goats after GAME ONE.
We do assume that they would have had two shots at getting him in from third rather than one shot at getting Stanton in from 2nd.
Right
But assuming a high success rate is the folly.
So...
are White Sox too young to give Astros a go?
Is it all on the pitching - LYNN wearing the goat horns Game 1?
I figured this for 5 - but the way McCullers threw the ball looks almost like CHI had better win three straight now
If they win the next game, it's back to Chi-town tied. Which is usually the goal.
Goals count more than goats after GAME ONE.
Right
At which point they would then have to win the next 2 - given how McCullers looked. What I said
Not that Lance is '86 Mike Scott - but quite impressive, yes.
We do assume that they would have had two shots at getting him in from third rather than one shot at getting Stanton in from 2nd.
Right
But assuming a high success rate is the folly.
I side with the notion that your team is on the road, down in the score, in an elimination game, and needs to put pressure on the other pitcher and to silence the crowd, and first and third with one out is better than 2nd with 2 outs and a crowd screaming because you just gave them an out at home plate. Risk/reward is greater with holding Judge up than sending him. All of that should have been considered by Nevin PRIOR TO THE GAME. He should know what he's going to do in that situation well before Stanton comes up.
Exactly as Nevin said - your analysis is outcome-based.
Judge acted poorly
You havent commented on this - and I guess see no need to.
You've played the game.
Find the video and see for yourself.
Actually the slide almost made him safe, which is why I laugh at those who say it wasn't close. Poor jump, hesitation around second, wide path second to third, hesitation at third. Still almost safe.
You've played the game.
Find the video and see for yourself.
Sez the poster who wished he could see something that Ham posted about, rather than finding the video himself.
Actually the slide almost made him safe, which is why I laugh at those who say it wasn't close. Poor jump, hesitation around second, wide path second to third, hesitation at third. Still almost safe.
"Almost made him safe..."
Which is why we laugh at you.
The "poor jump, hesitation around second, wide path second to third, and hesitation at third" are reasons that Nevin should not have sent Judge.
It's great to have John Smoltz to second guess things.I think something isn't right with Sale again. Two starts in a row where he hasn't pitched like his healthy self
OTOH, it is an ugly first inning.
Actually the slide almost made him safe, which is why I laugh at those who say it wasn't close. Poor jump, hesitation around second, wide path second to third, hesitation at third. Still almost safe.
"Almost made him safe..."
Which is why we laugh at you.
The "poor jump, hesitation around second, wide path second to third, and hesitation at third" are reasons that Nevin should not have sent Judge.
Nevin gave perfectly good reasoning
And refuses - as any good coach - to blame the player.
Gave credit to the opposition, another excellent trait of a coach and stand-up man.
Nevin hits back at A-Rod
https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-yankees/yankees-third-base-coach-explains-controversial-decision-to-send-aaron-judge-home/?fbclid=IwAR3oLAV3zR8XYBK57y7QpKefDvrrK4IbFlCr4Zs_seS11Y1RfNv5bdg09uQ
He's attacking ARod, but his defense of his decision is pretty weak.
SMOLTZ:
"This came could be 10-8"
It could be 5-4.
You will see that Boegarts is catching the ball as Judge hits the bag (with the wrong foot). From there he is a dead duck, but your boy Phil is waving him home.
You dont even know what you are watching
Judge was half way between third and home when Xander got the throw
Whoever had Matt Barnes coming in to pitch the 9th play the lottery😀😀
Logan Webb with a well-deserved round of applause.
It is still a tight game, as he leaves, at 3-0. Can his relief match what he did?
Logan Webb with a well-deserved round of applause.
It is still a tight game, as he leaves, at 3-0. Can his relief match what he did?
They did just fine.
Now the Giants just have to hope not to suffer the same fate in game 2 that the Rays did after their shut out of the Red Sox.
Kopech when it was 4-2 made a lot of sense, prior to the walk and the game tying hit, righty vs lefty
Later on, the move to Kimbrel, one of the best, at 5-4 down, cannot be criticized.
Gotta get two at home, with Kopech fresh and certain to be used.
So you would have gone to Kopech not Kimbrel?
So you would have gone to Kopech not Kimbrel?
Yes.
So you would have gone to Kopech not Kimbrel?
Yes.
Extreme disagree. At 5-4 down the game becomes Kimbrel to Hendricks - and hope the comeback happens.
Wanna change gears when it hits 9-4 no problem
Lets see how Tony does the rest of the way. Like I said Game 5 will be very tough without an absolute Lynn gem.
Check yourself - its extreme tomfoolery, your thought process.
You simply do not make a deal like that for a Kimbrel then leave him on the shelf.
Fried out - 81 pitches
I dont like it
I expect a shutout. May lay some sheckles on it.
Yeah - books heavy, heavy on LA. Thanks for the quotes
II am just going to assume everything that came after the apostrophe was brilliant.
Heh
Fuck Robles and his quick pitches
Whitlock saves everyone's bacon, I see - at least for now
That play never happens in MAJOR LEAGUE STADIUM.
That play never happens in MAJOR LEAGUE STADIUM.
Hahahahaha.
No, they must have come up with that rule just for Fenway.
But come up with it they did.
Hahaha. Poor Ham.
That play never happens in MAJOR LEAGUE STADIUM.
Hahahahaha.
No, they must have come up with that rule just for Fenway.
But come up with it they did.
Hahaha. Poor Ham.
But what I said, ass-wipe.
That puny fence doesn't belong in a MLB park.
You should be relieved.
GIFTED game after it was BLOWN.
Proving your stupidity, again, Josh?That play never happens in MAJOR LEAGUE STADIUM.
Hahahahaha.
No, they must have come up with that rule just for Fenway.
But come up with it they did.
Hahaha. Poor Ham.
But what I said, ass-wipe.
That puny fence doesn't belong in a MLB park.
You say that as if there were a rule that applies to it.
There isn't and no amount of your belly-aching is going to change it to assuage your sour grapes.
You would have said nothing if that had gone the other way and bounced off a Rays player, denying the Red Sox a run and we all know it, even if you cannot bring yourself to admit it.
Of course, the bullpen wall isn't the shortest at Fenway, but it also isn't the 2nd shortest wall in the majors.
But why let reality get in the way of a good pout, Ham.
You are too fucking funny.
The Tuck Rule.
Umps got it right.
I can certainly understand the Rays feeling jobbed.
That was a great game.
Why the Sox pitched to Arozarena in the 8th was a mystery to me. Should have IBB him.
and the Sox would have won it in 9.
Did I mention how great a game that was?
That play never happens in MAJOR LEAGUE STADIUM.
Hahahahaha.
No, they must have come up with that rule just for Fenway.
But come up with it they did.
Hahaha. Poor Ham.
But what I said, ass-wipe.
That puny fence doesn't belong in a MLB park.
Proving your stupidity, again, Josh?That play never happens in MAJOR LEAGUE STADIUM.
Hahahahaha.
No, they must have come up with that rule just for Fenway.
But come up with it they did.
Hahaha. Poor Ham.
But what I said, ass-wipe.
That puny fence doesn't belong in a MLB park.
You say that as if there were a rule that applies to it.
There isn't and no amount of your belly-aching is going to change it to assuage your sour grapes.
You would have said nothing if that had gone the other way and bounced off a Rays player, denying the Red Sox a run and we all know it, even if you cannot bring yourself to admit it.
Of course, the bullpen wall isn't the shortest at Fenway, but it also isn't the 2nd shortest wall in the majors.
But why let reality get in the way of a good pout, Ham.
You are too fucking funny.
The rule allowed the defensive error to benefit your team. That you don't grasp what is in front of you shows your homerism.
A game the Sox had blown was gifted to them
That's inarguable.
Meantime, the White Sox- Astros game is also crazy
Well at least you know understand that it was the correct call.
So you "understood that yesterday" when you said: "Holy crap that's a horrible call!!! It's TOTALLY the fault if the Sox player that the ball went out of play. Tampa should play the game under protest from this point on." ?
They're calling for a rewrite!
https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/ (https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/)
They're calling for a rewrite!
https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/ (https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/)
Some of "they" are calling for a rewrite.
The umpire they quoted likes the rule the way it is - it simplifies his life.
I think this "automatic" double should get a rewrite, too. But I have felt that umpires have been screwing up ground rule doubles for decades, by not exercising their placement options.
And their refusal, the overwhelming bulk of the time, to enforce the HBP rule that allows them to not give the hitter the base has irked me forever, even before some hitters became fully armored - but now?! Wikipedia notes, "If the batter does not attempt to avoid the pitch, he is not awarded first base, and the pitch is ruled either a strike if in the strike zone or a ball if out of the strike zone. Umpires rarely make this call." Perhaps a rewrite to make it a strike or even to have the batter be out would change hitters' conduct.
Some of the unchallengeable plays need to become challengeable.
Getting rid of the 3 batter minimum and limited mound visits rules seems called for, given that this season, the average MLB game took three hours, 10 minutes and seven seconds to play, a new record high with those rules.
And get rid of the runner on 2nd base in extras if it isn't good enough for post season play! Or ditch those two prior rules for post season play, if you are going to make it different, anyway.
Sure, change the pinball rule before next season. I have no objection, but it is hardly the only one that needs some tweaking.
Excellent point: https://twitter.com/joe_sheehan/status/1447399516852871169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1447399516852871169%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin.com%2Fembed%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1447399516852871169autosize%3D1 (https://twitter.com/joe_sheehan/status/1447399516852871169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1447399516852871169%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin.com%2Fembed%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1447399516852871169autosize%3D1)
Lindsey Adler @lindseyadler
They're calling for a rewrite!
https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/ (https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/)
Some of "they" are calling for a rewrite.
The umpire they quoted likes the rule the way it is - it simplifies his life.
I think this "automatic" double should get a rewrite, too. But I have felt that umpires have been screwing up ground rule doubles for decades, by not exercising their placement options.
And their refusal, the overwhelming bulk of the time, to enforce the HBP rule that allows them to not give the hitter the base has irked me forever, even before some hitters became fully armored - but now?! Wikipedia notes, "If the batter does not attempt to avoid the pitch, he is not awarded first base, and the pitch is ruled either a strike if in the strike zone or a ball if out of the strike zone. Umpires rarely make this call." Perhaps a rewrite to make it a strike or even to have the batter be out would change hitters' conduct.
Some of the unchallengeable plays need to become challengeable.
Getting rid of the 3 batter minimum and limited mound visits rules seems called for, given that this season, the average MLB game took three hours, 10 minutes and seven seconds to play, a new record high with those rules.
And get rid of the runner on 2nd base in extras if it isn't good enough for post season play! Or ditch those two prior rules for post season play, if you are going to make it different, anyway.
Sure, change the pinball rule before next season. I have no objection, but it is hardly the only one that needs some tweaking.
Yes, I agree we should tweak other rules, too, most importantly the DH, which should be either eliminated or put into the NL so that each league plays the same fucking game.
However, to keep to the topic, this rule takes an error by the defense and rewards the defense for that error. That's fundamentally unfair.
What other sport has that kind of thing in place? .
They're calling for a rewrite!
https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/ (https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/)
Some of "they" are calling for a rewrite.
The umpire they quoted likes the rule the way it is - it simplifies his life.
I think this "automatic" double should get a rewrite, too. But I have felt that umpires have been screwing up ground rule doubles for decades, by not exercising their placement options.
And their refusal, the overwhelming bulk of the time, to enforce the HBP rule that allows them to not give the hitter the base has irked me forever, even before some hitters became fully armored - but now?! Wikipedia notes, "If the batter does not attempt to avoid the pitch, he is not awarded first base, and the pitch is ruled either a strike if in the strike zone or a ball if out of the strike zone. Umpires rarely make this call." Perhaps a rewrite to make it a strike or even to have the batter be out would change hitters' conduct.
Some of the unchallengeable plays need to become challengeable.
Getting rid of the 3 batter minimum and limited mound visits rules seems called for, given that this season, the average MLB game took three hours, 10 minutes and seven seconds to play, a new record high with those rules.
And get rid of the runner on 2nd base in extras if it isn't good enough for post season play! Or ditch those two prior rules for post season play, if you are going to make it different, anyway.
Sure, change the pinball rule before next season. I have no objection, but it is hardly the only one that needs some tweaking.
Yes, I agree we should tweak other rules, too, most importantly the DH, which should be either eliminated or put into the NL so that each league plays the same fucking game.
However, to keep to the topic, this rule takes an error by the defense and rewards the defense for that error. That's fundamentally unfair.
What other sport has that kind of thing in place?
.
So you "understood that yesterday" when you said: "Holy crap that's a horrible call!!! It's TOTALLY the fault if the Sox player that the ball went out of play. Tampa should play the game under protest from this point on." ?
Yes, I did.
REACTING to a play in the instant that it took place. As no one else here did.
They're calling for a rewrite!
https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/ (https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/)
Some of "they" are calling for a rewrite.
The umpire they quoted likes the rule the way it is - it simplifies his life.
I think this "automatic" double should get a rewrite, too. But I have felt that umpires have been screwing up ground rule doubles for decades, by not exercising their placement options.
And their refusal, the overwhelming bulk of the time, to enforce the HBP rule that allows them to not give the hitter the base has irked me forever, even before some hitters became fully armored - but now?! Wikipedia notes, "If the batter does not attempt to avoid the pitch, he is not awarded first base, and the pitch is ruled either a strike if in the strike zone or a ball if out of the strike zone. Umpires rarely make this call." Perhaps a rewrite to make it a strike or even to have the batter be out would change hitters' conduct.
Some of the unchallengeable plays need to become challengeable.
Getting rid of the 3 batter minimum and limited mound visits rules seems called for, given that this season, the average MLB game took three hours, 10 minutes and seven seconds to play, a new record high with those rules.
And get rid of the runner on 2nd base in extras if it isn't good enough for post season play! Or ditch those two prior rules for post season play, if you are going to make it different, anyway.
Sure, change the pinball rule before next season. I have no objection, but it is hardly the only one that needs some tweaking.
Yes, I agree we should tweak other rules, too, most importantly the DH, which should be either eliminated or put into the NL so that each league plays the same fucking game.
However, to keep to the topic, this rule takes an error by the defense and rewards the defense for that error. That's fundamentally unfair.
What other sport has that kind of thing in place?
.
NBA and NFL
NBA A defender gets beat so he grabs a guy to prevent an easy basket. Depending on the foul situation its either side out, or making the offensive player shoot two free throws to get what he likely should have gotten without the foul.
NFL-a cornerback holds a guy who's about to streak by him, for a 5 yard penalty and 1st down rather than give up a bigger play, maybe a TD.
EXCEPT those two examples are intentional fouls, Renfroe committed no foul or error, but merely played the game and the umps called the play as per the rule book. The Rays were unlucky.
Last night I was posting elsewhere with Sox, Tampa and Y fans and not surprisingly many of the Rays supporters called for umpire judgement to send the runner home and place Keirmeier at 3rd. Do we really want judgement calls on whether a guy would have scored from first on a "GR double"?
I also heard new rules written on the fly to fit the preffered outcome.
The rule, benefitted the Sox, but in over 60 years of watching baseball, I never saw that play before. Although I understand a very similar play took place a couple of years ago in Tampa.
And they got the same call the Sox got last night.
Which may explain why Cash wasn't so pissed.
He knew the umps made the right call.
This inning isn't bad.
A few more like it would be lovely.
They're calling for a rewrite!
https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/ (https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/)
Some of "they" are calling for a rewrite.
The umpire they quoted likes the rule the way it is - it simplifies his life.
I think this "automatic" double should get a rewrite, too. But I have felt that umpires have been screwing up ground rule doubles for decades, by not exercising their placement options.
And their refusal, the overwhelming bulk of the time, to enforce the HBP rule that allows them to not give the hitter the base has irked me forever, even before some hitters became fully armored - but now?! Wikipedia notes, "If the batter does not attempt to avoid the pitch, he is not awarded first base, and the pitch is ruled either a strike if in the strike zone or a ball if out of the strike zone. Umpires rarely make this call." Perhaps a rewrite to make it a strike or even to have the batter be out would change hitters' conduct.
Some of the unchallengeable plays need to become challengeable.
Getting rid of the 3 batter minimum and limited mound visits rules seems called for, given that this season, the average MLB game took three hours, 10 minutes and seven seconds to play, a new record high with those rules.
And get rid of the runner on 2nd base in extras if it isn't good enough for post season play! Or ditch those two prior rules for post season play, if you are going to make it different, anyway.
Sure, change the pinball rule before next season. I have no objection, but it is hardly the only one that needs some tweaking.
Yes, I agree we should tweak other rules, too, most importantly the DH, which should be either eliminated or put into the NL so that each league plays the same fucking game.
However, to keep to the topic, this rule takes an error by the defense and rewards the defense for that error. That's fundamentally unfair.
What other sport has that kind of thing in place?
.
NBA and NFL
NBA A defender gets beat so he grabs a guy to prevent an easy basket. Depending on the foul situation its either side out, or making the offensive player shoot two free throws to get what he likely should have gotten without the foul.
NFL-a cornerback holds a guy who's about to streak by him, for a 5 yard penalty and 1st down rather than give up a bigger play, maybe a TD.
EXCEPT those two examples are intentional fouls, Renfroe committed no foul or error, but merely played the game and the umps called the play as per the rule book. The Rays were unlucky.
Last night I was posting elsewhere with Sox, Tampa and Y fans and not surprisingly many of the Rays supporters called for umpire judgement to send the runner home and place Keirmeier at 3rd. Do we really want judgement calls on whether a guy would have scored from first on a "GR double"?
I also heard new rules written on the fly to fit the preffered outcome.
The rule, benefitted the Sox, but in over 60 years of watching baseball, I never saw that play before. Although I understand a very similar play took place a couple of years ago in Tampa.
And they got the same call the Sox got last night.
Which may explain why Cash wasn't so pissed.
He knew the umps made the right call.
The problem with your NBA and NFL examples is that the defense is still punished, anf not rewarded as Boston was last night.
It's a bad rule.
Got it right on that call at third base.
Got it right on that call at third base.
Hand never came off.
But not enough to overturn it.
Got it right on that call at third base.
Hand never came off.
But not enough to overturn it.
Ok, Homer.
Boston can redeem themselves, now.
Boston can redeem themselves, now.
It would be nice if they manage to win it.
"Redeem" has nothing to do with it.
It's still a bad rule, regardless of how it exists in other sports
Except it doesn't exist in other sports.
Got it right on that call at third base.
Hand never came off.
But not enough to overturn it.
Ok, Homer.
/laughs/
There is a reason you have a folder just because of your anti-Boston posts, Ham.
You are far more anti-Boston than I am pro.
Put him on!
Got it right on that call at third base.
Hand never came off.
But not enough to overturn it.
Ok, Homer.
/laughs/
There is a reason you have a folder just because of your anti-Boston posts, Ham.
You are far more anti-Boston than I am pro.
I'm justrealisticself-deluded, Homer.
Put him on!
And they should have, but Cash chose not to.
It's still a bad rule, regardless of how it exists in other sports
Except it doesn't exist in other sports.
Like I said, I gave you an example. You ignore it like you always do.
So predictable.
Put him on!
And they should have, but Cash chose not to.
How long do we have to wait to find out how Alex Cora has been cheating at Fenway this season?
November? March? Next summer?
Time will tell.
They're calling for a rewrite!
https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/ (https://theathletic.com/2881684/2021/10/11/rosenthal-strange-play-in-game-3-of-red-sox-rays-shows-rule-needs-to-be-adjusted/)
Some of "they" are calling for a rewrite.
The umpire they quoted likes the rule the way it is - it simplifies his life.
I think this "automatic" double should get a rewrite, too. But I have felt that umpires have been screwing up ground rule doubles for decades, by not exercising their placement options.
And their refusal, the overwhelming bulk of the time, to enforce the HBP rule that allows them to not give the hitter the base has irked me forever, even before some hitters became fully armored - but now?! Wikipedia notes, "If the batter does not attempt to avoid the pitch, he is not awarded first base, and the pitch is ruled either a strike if in the strike zone or a ball if out of the strike zone. Umpires rarely make this call." Perhaps a rewrite to make it a strike or even to have the batter be out would change hitters' conduct.
Some of the unchallengeable plays need to become challengeable.
Getting rid of the 3 batter minimum and limited mound visits rules seems called for, given that this season, the average MLB game took three hours, 10 minutes and seven seconds to play, a new record high with those rules.
And get rid of the runner on 2nd base in extras if it isn't good enough for post season play! Or ditch those two prior rules for post season play, if you are going to make it different, anyway.
Sure, change the pinball rule before next season. I have no objection, but it is hardly the only one that needs some tweaking.
Yes, I agree we should tweak other rules, too, most importantly the DH, which should be either eliminated or put into the NL so that each league plays the same fucking game.
However, to keep to the topic, this rule takes an error by the defense and rewards the defense for that error. That's fundamentally unfair.
What other sport has that kind of thing in place?
.
NBA and NFL
NBA A defender gets beat so he grabs a guy to prevent an easy basket. Depending on the foul situation its either side out, or making the offensive player shoot two free throws to get what he likely should have gotten without the foul.
NFL-a cornerback holds a guy who's about to streak by him, for a 5 yard penalty and 1st down rather than give up a bigger play, maybe a TD.
EXCEPT those two examples are intentional fouls, Renfroe committed no foul or error, but merely played the game and the umps called the play as per the rule book. The Rays were unlucky.
Last night I was posting elsewhere with Sox, Tampa and Y fans and not surprisingly many of the Rays supporters called for umpire judgement to send the runner home and place Keirmeier at 3rd. Do we really want judgement calls on whether a guy would have scored from first on a "GR double"?
I also heard new rules written on the fly to fit the preffered outcome.
The rule, benefitted the Sox, but in over 60 years of watching baseball, I never saw that play before. Although I understand a very similar play took place a couple of years ago in Tampa.
And they got the same call the Sox got last night.
Which may explain why Cash wasn't so pissed.
He knew the umps made the right call.
The problem with your NBA and NFL examples is that the defense is still punished, anf not rewarded as Boston was last night.
It's a bad rule.
How much are the Astros favored over the White Sox?
They are still a bigger favorite to get to the World Series than the Red Sox are, even though they have not won their series!
The Brewers are going to have to scramble tomorrow.
The Giants are going to have to scramble tonight.
Players on both the Rays and Yankees admitted the effect of the crowd on the game. The sentiment from those around the team -- from the Fenway Park security guards to the players to the coaches to the front office executives -- remained the same across the board: The crowds in Boston are at another level this postseason, a near-legendary status.
I ain't gonna lie, I did not expect the Sox to win this series, Tampa looked too solid all the way around.
But the Sox are resilient SOBs, who can hit and have an ability to come from behind and Cora managed through a mine field.
Its been house money for awhile, but the stack just got bigger.
GO SOX
QuotePlayers on both the Rays and Yankees admitted the effect of the crowd on the game. The sentiment from those around the team -- from the Fenway Park security guards to the players to the coaches to the front office executives -- remained the same across the board: The crowds in Boston are at another level this postseason, a near-legendary status.
Joon Lee, ESPN
Hamilton Samuels would like to remind everybody that he HATES the Red Sox and their fans!! Just in case we aren't paying attention.
I'll only talk baseball with people who know something about it. Sorry.
Have fun though!
I do appreciate the toughness you bring; the fight through the muck and the mire; the hard-nosed take no-prisoners, speaking truth to power approach you take on an Internet message Board, tough guy. You're certainly no one to be trifled with.
I've been challenged to a duel!! Pass.
I only represent myself in these matters, though I suspect many Sox fans hold a similar belief that the Sox are a resilient team as proven by the inordinate # of CFBW they pulled off this year. In the Rays series the Sox got pounded in the first game, 5-0, and were down 5-2 after their 2nd game hope Chris Sale was abused in the 1st inning for 5 runs. They were in a huge hole, but for various reasons, including some awesome bullpen work, and a savage offensive attack, they won the game. The last 2 games were nail-biters and very good games for baseball fans to watch. But yes the Red Sox got lucky with a bouncing ball.
Imagine that a game where the bounce of a ball comes into play hundreds of time, the Sox got lucky on a bounce?
And as to your non sequitor example, which was stupid and was irellevant, the '86 Sox lost and the '86 Mets won for a variety of reasons, far too many to discuss in a post to a idiot troll.
btw you should probably shit your pants in private, your embarassing yourself and your starting to smell like shit.
Hamilton Samuels would like to remind everybody that he HATES the Red Sox and their fans!! Just in case we aren't paying attention.
Sometimes you do get the breaks
https://fansided.com/2021/10/11/ron-kulpa-red-sox-terrible-call-wander-franco/?a_aid=41091&fbclid=IwAR2SuE7I-yY-EeEIQ3clDRMtyY5vhnFzhzex1erkMMgNW4M-zmuS5p9AHCw
HamilSam -
who do you have winning it all?
Dodgers certainly not looking like their best self.
I am pulling for Chicago, then Milwaukee. Each could end today.
Astros cheating again?
https://nypost.com/2021/10/11/white-sox-pitcher-ryan-tepera-suggests-astros-could-be-cheating-again/ (https://nypost.com/2021/10/11/white-sox-pitcher-ryan-tepera-suggests-astros-could-be-cheating-again/)
That was almost an amazing catch by the Brewers' 3rd baseman from the catcher!
That they are calling the batter out is beyond me.
That was almost an amazing catch by the Brewers' 3rd baseman from the catcher!
That they are calling the batter out is beyond me.
That was almost an amazing catch by the Brewers' 3rd baseman from the catcher!
That they are calling the batter out is beyond me.
What happened?
A little more invested in Friday's game.
I think I have been wrong on all of my picks to date. So congratulations on making the World Series Boston!in 1986 I was in a massive NYC sportbar for Game 6 of the WS, one of just a handful of Sox fans in a club filled with Met fans, and I was taking shit all night, the worst from foul mouthed "ladies" who suggested certain things I do to myself, I had never really considered. But as the Sox were 1 pitch away some SOB in the blue and orange congratulated me. I yelled at him, NO!". It was the most savage most cruel yet exquisite deployment of reverse MOJO I had ever. The guy was a malevolent wizard of dark magic. I can still hear his evil chuckle on cold October nights.
Most every line I"ve seen have the Dodgers as favorites. I think betting baseball is nuts.
Most every line I"ve seen have the Dodgers as favorites. I think betting baseball is nuts.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2949326-cheating-scandals-injuries-and-slumps-dont-matter-the-astros-are-inevitableI haven't done the math, but the Giants -115 (approximate) are slight favorites tonight. The LAD are -105. Right now Atlanta should be the NL favorite. But once tonight's game is over, they should be a big dog as new money comes in.
Contrary to the story, the Dodgers are still the favorites to win the World Series and they haven't even gotten to the playoff with the Braves!
Most every line I"ve seen have the Dodgers as favorites. I think betting baseball is nuts.
Giants have won THIRTEEN straight Webb starts at home
I would call this a rather strong trend
Agreed. I made a mistake there. My bad. Meant the Astros.Most every line I"ve seen have the Dodgers as favorites. I think betting baseball is nuts.
ASTROS the current favorite - at 2/1
Giants have won THIRTEEN straight Webb starts at home
I would call this a rather strong trend
The Dodgers are throwing Urias. The press loves Urias.
That bodes well for the Giants.
Certainly one of those trends has to give.You have a future in TV punditry.
(he said, profoundly)
The bottom line on the Dodgers/Giants series is that MLB will have more pressure on it to change the play-off structure. It shouldn't be that the two teams with the best records in the league face off prior to the championship game. it shouldn't be that the team with the second best record has to play a play-in game to get into the play-offs.
So, I hope that the outcome of this series forces at least that change, where all teams are first seeded by record, and the reseeded after each advance in the play-offs.
So, in the NL, it should've been ATL v STL, followed by winner to play SF, and LAD to play the Brewers, and then those winners face each other.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-shildt-dismissed-by-cardinals
Difference of opinion on the direction of the ball club.
Right.
RIP Ray Fosse, a man whose career was ruined because some overhyped overrated Johnny Gung Ho asswipe singles hitter decided to treat an exhibition game like fucking Game 7.
The bottom line on the Dodgers/Giants series is that MLB will have more pressure on it to change the play-off structure. It shouldn't be that the two teams with the best records in the league face off prior to the championship game. it shouldn't be that the team with the second best record has to play a play-in game to get into the play-offs.
So, I hope that the outcome of this series forces at least that change, where all teams are first seeded by record, and the reseeded after each advance in the play-offs.
So, in the NL, it should've been ATL v STL, followed by winner to play SF, and LAD to play the Brewers, and then those winners face each other.
I don't think a 1 game play in for a division champ is proper. O think you mean after LA wins the WC then they seed by record
Yes, 16 years battling cancer is a long time. Fought, as the say, the good fight against inevitability.RIP Ray Fosse, a man whose career was ruined because some overhyped overrated Johnny Gung Ho asswipe singles hitter decided to treat an exhibition game like fucking Game 7.
Surprised that he lived this long,
Certainly one of those trends has to give.
(he said, profoundly)
Yes, 16 years battling cancer is a long time. Fought, as the say, the good fight against inevitability.RIP Ray Fosse, a man whose career was ruined because some overhyped overrated Johnny Gung Ho asswipe singles hitter decided to treat an exhibition game like fucking Game 7.
Surprised that he lived this long,
Yes, 16 years battling cancer is a long time. Fought, as the say, the good fight against inevitability.RIP Ray Fosse, a man whose career was ruined because some overhyped overrated Johnny Gung Ho asswipe singles hitter decided to treat an exhibition game like fucking Game 7.
Surprised that he lived this long,
Sorry, and it's not your fault, but you've triggered me with that last sentence.
One doesn't fight cancer. One gets it and either survives or doesn't. It's not a battle, and framing it as such fits our need to see things in terms of wins and losses, while ignoring the scientific reality of the disease itself.
But it doesn't help anyone who has it to see it as a battle, especially, when ultimately framing it as such is merely setting them up to feel a sense of failure once they've succumbed to that inevitability to which you've referred.
Apologies to anyone who is sensitive to this discussion, but I've seen too many people die from cancer, and none of them were ever helped by framing their last few years, months, weeks and days as a "fight" to the finish.
Sorry for the Fosse family, too.
Yes, 16 years battling cancer is a long time. Fought, as the say, the good fight against inevitability.RIP Ray Fosse, a man whose career was ruined because some overhyped overrated Johnny Gung Ho asswipe singles hitter decided to treat an exhibition game like fucking Game 7.
Surprised that he lived this long,
Sorry, and it's not your fault, but you've triggered me with that last sentence.
One doesn't fight cancer. One gets it and either survives or doesn't. It's not a battle, and framing it as such fits our need to see things in terms of wins and losses, while ignoring the scientific reality of the disease itself.
But it doesn't help anyone who has it to see it as a battle, especially, when ultimately framing it as such is merely setting them up to feel a sense of failure once they've succumbed to that inevitability to which you've referred.
Apologies to anyone who is sensitive to this discussion, but I've seen too many people die from cancer, and none of them were ever helped by framing their last few years, months, weeks and days as a "fight" to the finish.
Sorry for the Fosse family, too.
The word "inevitability" is certainly improper. Many survive cancer. But I do agree that there is a certain FIGHT to it. On those rough days...especially fighting to keep an appearance for loved ones.
One doesn't fight cancer. One gets it and either survives or doesn't.
Probably she has played as much baseball as most tv pundits, all of whom mouth similar bullsbit.Certainly one of those trends has to give.
(he said, profoundly)
Put forth by a woman on MLB Radio, today, I kid you not: The team that wins will have to play good baseball.
Just guessing that she has little experience actually playing baseball, but I could be wrong. Still, the male broadcaster with her, Ryan Spilborghs, was quick to agree. What else could he say? Thank you, Captain Obvious?
What an amazing game!
Scherzer coming in for the save for the Dodgers, on two days rest. Shades of Alex Cora (among others).
Will it work?!
"Scherzer has never had a professional save. He's one out away from the biggest one of his career!"
Either did the 1st base ump. That was all check swing
Congrats to the LAD.
And condolences to the SFG you got screwed.
Either did the 1st base ump. That was all check swing
Congrats to the LAD.
And condolences to the SFG you got screwed.
Sucks most for the umpire
Wilmer wasnt hitting Scherzer.
According to 538:
Dodgers 74% chance of getting to the WS; 54% chance of winning the WS
Astros 61% chance of getting to the WS; 22% chance of winning the WS
Braves 26% chance of getting to the WS; 13% chance of winning the WS
Red Sox 39% chance of getting to the WS; 11% chance of winning the WS
As I said yesterday, the Dodgers are the favorites, not the Astros.
The Sox have a better chance of making the WS than the Braves, but even so a lower chance of winning it.
Who had Dodgers and Braves?I did.
Dodgers and Braves - 1 (16.7%)
Dodgers and Brewers - 2 (33.3%)
Giants and Braves - 0 (0%)
Giants and Brewers - 3 (50%)
How bout you just fix the current poll?
Who had Dodgers and Braves?I did.
Dodgers and Braves - 1 (16.7%)
Dodgers and Brewers - 2 (33.3%)
Giants and Braves - 0 (0%)
Giants and Brewers - 3 (50%)
Thanks. Likely the first prediction I've ever gotten correct. There's a reason I don't wager on sports.Who had Dodgers and Braves?I did.
Dodgers and Braves - 1 (16.7%)
Dodgers and Brewers - 2 (33.3%)
Giants and Braves - 0 (0%)
Giants and Brewers - 3 (50%)
Congratulations!
Maybe Gabe Morales would want to do some reading, today?
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/gabe-morales-wikipedia-page-changed-after-controversial-nlds-call (https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/gabe-morales-wikipedia-page-changed-after-controversial-nlds-call)
Maybe Gabe Morales would want to do some reading, today?
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/gabe-morales-wikipedia-page-changed-after-controversial-nlds-call (https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/giants/gabe-morales-wikipedia-page-changed-after-controversial-nlds-call)
Wicked.
The St. Louis Cardinals on firing their manager despite winning a wild-card spot:
a lot of times these decisions aren't based just on the season. More to the point, it is directionally where we want to go.
Oh.
"He wants to keep winning, but we are not so sure about that..."
They didn't win
"He wants to keep winning, but we are not so sure about that..."
They didn't win
Think the Cards make it even to the WC game next season?!
"He wants to keep winning, but we are not so sure about that..."
They didn't win
Think the Cards make it even to the WC game next season?!
You want me to pick now?
I think its about getting a bit further...
Dmoltz knows what he's talking about.
Dmoltz knows what he's talking about.
Maybe, but I just heard him talking about how in the NL, it will be starters going long the day after the Dodgers ran two relievers out for the 1st and 2nd inning of their finale with the Giants.
Dmoltz knows what he's talking about.
Maybe, but I just heard him talking about how in the NL, it will be starters going long the day after the Dodgers ran two relievers out for the 1st and 2nd inning of their finale with the Giants.
You missed WHY Dave Roberts did this
Lets just say this - Flores facing Scherzer - a horrible Giants matchup - was the result.
I do think the NL starters go longer- takes no genius to think so
My point is that the NL is not doing what Smoltz said they are.
Sure they are
Have fun chasing your tail on this one
winnable game that got away.
damn
I winced as soon as that meatball left Houck's hand.
pretty good game
Dmoltz knows what he's talking about.
Maybe, but I just heard him talking about how in the NL, it will be starters going long the day after the Dodgers ran two relievers out for the 1st and 2nd inning of their finale with the Giants.
winnable game that got away.
damn
Can't figure the Mets' interest in Correa.
Seager has to be atop the Yankees list. I give him a slight edge over Correa then Story.
Best value will be Semien
Best value will be Semien
How do you figure that?
Loved this afternoon's RS game.
Enjoying the late show (Dodgers-Braves), too.
This must be another example of what Smoltz was talking about wrt that NL pitching style and its radical difference from the AL.
Back and forth goes this one.
The throw was just off or that runner would be out.
Back and forth goes this one.
The throw was just off or that runner would be out.
Can't believe the 2nd baseman missed that ball.
Congratulations, Braves!
Best value will be Semien
How do you figure that?
Cheaper
And very very good
Much older, and less value going forward through the next 4 seasons than the top 3.
Will be interesting tracking this
Other 3 meaning who?
Seager, Correa and Story? Adding Baez too?
A good start. so far.THIS is some strange shit. Not that I'm complaining.
Keep it going, guys.
"Just gotta win one to get back home"
Analyst, on HOU thinking
Yeah - good luck with that
But consider that your guy is FOUR YEARS OLDER than Correa, Correa in 4 years vs the 35 year old you prefer.
If I need a shortstop, I PREFER the guy who wants to sign.
I would WOO each guy up to my $$ limits
I think Semien may be a bargain - though someone might pay big after missing on others
"Just gotta win one to get back home"
Analyst, on HOU thinking
Yeah - good luck with that
It could be tomorrow.
Greinke is a great pitcher.
Sure, his ERA at Fenway is 10.22, but the postseason is different!
But consider that your guy is FOUR YEARS OLDER than Correa, Correa in 4 years vs the 35 year old you prefer.
If I need a shortstop, I PREFER the guy who wants to sign.
I would WOO each guy up to my $$ limits
I think Semien may be a bargain - though someone might pay big after missing on others
A a bargain for how long?
Value in baseball is a function of longevity.
"Just gotta win one to get back home"
Analyst, on HOU thinking
Yeah - good luck with that
It could be tomorrow.
Greinke is a great pitcher.
Sure, his ERA at Fenway is 10.22, but the postseason is different!
You should know more about this guy.
He could VERY WELL surprise you. It seems to be his M.O.
https://youtu.be/vuTMPm7A0zQ (https://youtu.be/vuTMPm7A0zQ)
A good game by the Red Sox, but only halfway to the World Series.
Still a lot of work to go.
"Just gotta win one to get back home"
Analyst, on HOU thinking
Yeah - good luck with that
It could be tomorrow.
Greinke is a great pitcher.
Sure, his ERA at Fenway is 10.22, but the postseason is different!
You should know more about this guy.
He could VERY WELL surprise you. It seems to be his M.O.
https://youtu.be/vuTMPm7A0zQ (https://youtu.be/vuTMPm7A0zQ)
A good game by the Red Sox, but only halfway to the World Series.
Still a lot of work to go.
Josh - the Sox nut - who pulls his hair out with every play - not wanting to seem too excited at WS prospects.
In his mind - champagne already out.
ALEX should get this done - as Dusty is real real bad historically in these spots.
Which MGR do you think is getting his troops in proper frame of mind - and which is just sucking on a pick?
A good game by the Red Sox, but only halfway to the World Series.
Still a lot of work to go.
Josh - the Sox nut - who pulls his hair out with every play - not wanting to seem too excited at WS prospects.
In his mind - champagne already out.
ALEX should get this done - as Dusty is real real bad historically in these spots.
Which MGR do you think is getting his troops in proper frame of mind - and which is just sucking on a pick?
Your usual delusions of mind-reading. I'm very excited at the prospect, but I am even more aware that a 2-1 lead in a best of 7 only ends in 5 games about 31% of the time. And as the image shows, the team up 2-1 has lost more than 30% of the time. (It's now up to 69% from that 2014 article.) And if you think the lessons of 2004 are ever far from this Red Sox fan's head, you are even more screwy than I have previously believed.
"It ain't over til it's over," Kid.
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Expect each starter to go at least 6 (today NL game)
Wow - looked like strike three on the breaking pitch, Eovaldi to Castro. Rough.
Stolen bases without getting caught?!
Braves are pitching well. Dave Roberts looking like Grady Little.
Guess Laz Diaz is to blame for Sox blowing this series.
Braves are pitching well. Dave Roberts looking like Grady Little.
Just not even close to the same.
"Good" try for your regular attempt to make an anti-Boston post.
Had Snitker left Smyly in there longer, that might have been an apt comparison or at least closer - blowing the lead after being left in too long. But Urias didn't have the lead, let alone lose it nor was it particularly late in the game, either.
Was Urias left in too long? Sure. End of comparison.
Guess Laz Diaz is to blame for Sox blowing this series.
If you say so, Ham. You're the self-proclaimed expert, after all.
Guess Laz Diaz is to blame for Sox blowing this series.
If you say so, Ham. You're the self-proclaimed expert, after all.
Sorry, but the RSN has made Diaz their Don Denkinger, not me.
Braves are pitching well. Dave Roberts looking like Grady Little.
Just not even close to the same.
"Good" try for your regular attempt to make an anti-Boston post.
Had Snitker left Smyly in there longer, that might have been an apt comparison or at least closer - blowing the lead after being left in too long. But Urias didn't have the lead, let alone lose it nor was it particularly late in the game, either.
Was Urias left in too long? Sure. End of comparison.
You're getting paranoid in defeat, Josh.
Guess Laz Diaz is to blame for Sox blowing this series.
If you say so, Ham. You're the self-proclaimed expert, after all.
Sorry, but the RSN has made Diaz their Don Denkinger, not me.
Reading here, you seem to feel more strongly about it than anybody else, Ham.
Same as always.
Fuck Laz Diaz.
Guess Laz Diaz is to blame for Sox blowing this series.
If you say so, Ham. You're the self-proclaimed expert, after all.
Sorry, but the RSN has made Diaz their Don Denkinger, not me.
Reading here, you seem to feel more strongly about it than anybody else, Ham.
Same as always.
Here.
HehFuck Laz Diaz.
Dodgers fans already blaming Roberts. The ones who are in their cars and driving away, already
Heh
Dodgers fans already blaming Roberts. The ones who are in their cars and driving away, already
Heh
Who do you think they should blame, if anybody?
Its like when Sox fans basically KILLED Bill Buckner - when even if Billy makes the play there is no guarantee Boston would have won.
So certain Sox win had Diaz just called Castro out on strikes.
Not really how it works.
Its like when Sox fans basically KILLED Bill Buckner - when even if Billy makes the play there is no guarantee Boston would have won.
Red Sox cheered Buckner Opening Day 1987.
Red Sox fans killed Sox Mgr McNamara for not subbing Dave Stapleton at 1st for defensive purposes for the hobbled Buckner.
It was mostly the press that mocked Buckner, not the fans.
Dodgers fans already blaming Roberts. The ones who are in their cars and driving away, already
Heh
Who do you think they should blame, if anybody?
Los Bravos.
You know, Josh, there's this concept in sports. It's called "getting beat" or "getting outplayed".
Its funny when in speaking for himself Bank thinks he speaks for all Sox fans
Sox fans are creative, but in the end, they always play the blame game.
Heh
TBD = Joe Kelly
Its funny when in speaking for himself Bank thinks he speaks for all Sox fans
I was actually a well respected voice on SOSH, likely long before you found it
Good to see PUJOLS.
Right
Pretty easy to engage in normal educated baseball conversation.
Shame that isnt available here most days
I was actually a well respected voice on SOSH, likely long before you found it
Good to see PUJOLS.
LMAO
Kid this is the first you've ever made the claim you were a member of SoSH.
I've been a member there for 20 years...
The mods there have almost no tolerance for idiocy, racist bullshit, or trolling.
Right
Pretty easy to engage in normal educated baseball conversation.
Shame that isnt available here most days
Yes, isn't it?
If only you posted such that you would be a well-respected voice here, too.
So, what was your handle on SoSH?
I was actually a well respected voice on SOSH, likely long before you found it
Good to see PUJOLS.
LMAO
Kid this is the first you've ever made the claim you were a member of SoSH.
I've been a member there for 20 years...
The mods there have almost no tolerance for idiocy, racist bullshit, or trolling.
And yet, YOU'VE been there 20 years?
LMFAO!!!!
I speak for myself you fucking cretin.
Ya see...this is the problem
I was actually a well respected voice on SOSH, likely long before you found it
Good to see PUJOLS.
LMAO
Kid this is the first you've ever made the claim you were a member of SoSH.
I've been a member there for 20 years...
The mods there have almost no tolerance for idiocy, racist bullshit, or trolling.
And yet, YOU'VE been there 20 years?
LMFAO!!!!
Yup, I know the ground rules and how far to push.
And which buttons to push.
SoSH calls for facts and an ability to articulate an opinion.
And trolling is a frowned upon and will get a poster banned.
As will stalking or doxxing someone
So your go to plays would be viewed as a weakness by the community from the go.
And you'd be offed PDQ.
Another of those NL-style pitching performances, with the starters going long, unlike those AL games.
Another of those NL-style pitching performances, with the starters going long, unlike those AL games.
Say what you want, but the NL series has been more entertaining than the AL Modern Baseball Cheaters Division series.
No Fitbit watches and strange lights on the scoreboards and whistles in the NL games.
I was actually a well respected voice on SOSH, likely long before you found it
Good to see PUJOLS.
LMAO
Kid this is the first you've ever made the claim you were a member of SoSH.
I've been a member there for 20 years...
The mods there have almost no tolerance for idiocy, racist bullshit, or trolling.
And yet, YOU'VE been there 20 years?
LMFAO!!!!
Yup, I know the ground rules and how far to push.
And which buttons to push.
SoSH calls for facts and an ability to articulate an opinion.
And trolling is a frowned upon and will get a poster banned.
As will stalking or doxxing someone
So your go to plays would be viewed as a weakness by the community from the go.
And you'd be offed PDQ.
Except I've never actually done what you're accusing me of doing.
We could have discussed that further and proved it, had you not chickened out when challenged to meet in person.
But that ship sailed, and you're still on the dock waving your hanky and spinning tales of woe.
Best you just stow it, for now, and stick to your SOSH buddies and their delicate ways.
And kid, unlike you, can handle whatever shit is thrown his way here and elsewhere, so in that sense he is far, far, far a better individual than you have ever shown yourself to be.
Wimp.
team based. Here it is always in the back of someone's mind the other guy's politics - and extremists abound.
And trolling is a frowned upon and will get a poster banned.
As will stalking or doxxing someone
Honestly I am at time ashamed to be brought down to the level of this forum
I miss the NY Times - where there were posters who nudged - but conversation was possible. If anything the rough banter was team based. Here it is always in the back of someone's mind the other guy's politics - and extremists abound. And fresh slates are unavailable when dealing with most. Sadly so. But here we are.
Anyway - fresh slate on SOSH. I will try to get there some.
Hey, kid. Do you ever hear from any of the old Mets NYT and Elbanese Forumites, like Rick(Bloomy) and Lenny and Lisa, etc?
I Met Rick a few times, and played golf with both he and Lenny, but that was a long time ago and I think Lenny died, since.
I know you met Rick. He spoke highly of you.
Honestly I am at time ashamed to be brought down to the level of this forum
I miss the NY Times - where there were posters who nudged - but conversation was possible. If anything the rough banter was team based. Here it is always in the back of someone's mind the other guy's politics - and extremists abound. And fresh slates are unavailable when dealing with most. Sadly so. But here we are.
Anyway - fresh slate on SOSH. I will try to get there some.
Kid why don't you join a right wing white supremacist NY Mets/Giants/Knicks forum?
A place where you can share your common values and beliefs and insane conspiratorial theories with like minded morons?
Honestly I am at time ashamed to be brought down to the level of this forum
I miss the NY Times - where there were posters who nudged - but conversation was possible. If anything the rough banter was team based. Here it is always in the back of someone's mind the other guy's politics - and extremists abound. And fresh slates are unavailable when dealing with most. Sadly so. But here we are.
Anyway - fresh slate on SOSH. I will try to get there some.
Kid why don't you join a right wing white supremacist NY Mets/Giants/Knicks forum?
A place where you can share your common values and beliefs and insane conspiratorial theories with like minded morons?
I dont have any such theories
And who says I don't hang out elsewhere?
Hey, kid. Do you ever hear from any of the old Mets NYT and Elbanese Forumites, like Rick(Bloomy) and Lenny and Lisa, etc?
I Met Rick a few times, and played golf with both he and Lenny, but that was a long time ago and I think Lenny died, since.
I know you met Rick. He spoke highly of you.
Nah.
But those guys were great. We met up at the old ESPN zone in Manhattan one time and also did a Mets vs Giants playoff game. It was the Bobby Fresno Jones 1 hitter.
I also met a Red Sox guy in Houston at some point.
You feel you know me so well - wont take you long to figure it out.
Bank - heh - gotta love him
He is 95% convinced that I am Q.
Newbies with no game and a bad attitude don't have a long shelf.
Not sure who you think you are talking to
As I said - I was already there some time ago.
Heh
I'll be fine there - thanks for the concern
If you haven't seen me post what you would consider content that would pass SOSH muster (cough) in a while it is due to the company kept here, nothing else.
Have to wonder if they are setting a record - highest average number of runs ahead for winning team
29 thus far in 5 games
Another of those NL-style pitching performances, with the starters going long, unlike those AL games.
Say what you want, but the NL series has been more entertaining than the AL Modern Baseball Cheaters Division series.
No Fitbit watches and strange lights on the scoreboards and whistles in the NL games.
Poor you. When they consolidate the rules and there is a DH in both leagues, you won't have any pro baseball to watch any more.
You, of all our posters, should be more appreciative of cheaters.
And I happen to agree that tight ballgames are inherently more entertaining than blowouts, but it has nothing to do with the point I was making.
Another of those NL-style pitching performances, with the starters going long, unlike those AL games.
Say what you want, but the NL series has been more entertaining than the AL Modern Baseball Cheaters Division series.
No Fitbit watches and strange lights on the scoreboards and whistles in the NL games.
Poor you. When they consolidate the rules and there is a DH in both leagues, you won't have any pro baseball to watch any more.
You, of all our posters, should be more appreciative of cheaters.
And I happen to agree that tight ballgames are inherently more entertaining than blowouts, but it has nothing to do with the point I was making.
Boston was caught cheating. Houston was caught cheating. Alex Cora was caught cheating.
Then there are the Patriots.
So, I think it is YOU who really appreciates cheaters, Josh.
Another of those NL-style pitching performances, with the starters going long, unlike those AL games.
Say what you want, but the NL series has been more entertaining than the AL Modern Baseball Cheaters Division series.
No Fitbit watches and strange lights on the scoreboards and whistles in the NL games.
Poor you. When they consolidate the rules and there is a DH in both leagues, you won't have any pro baseball to watch any more.
You, of all our posters, should be more appreciative of cheaters.
And I happen to agree that tight ballgames are inherently more entertaining than blowouts, but it has nothing to do with the point I was making.
Boston was caught cheating. Houston was caught cheating. Alex Cora was caught cheating.
Then there are the Patriots.
So, I think it is YOU who really appreciates cheaters, Josh.
If I appreciated cheaters, I would appreciate you and Donald Trump.
I appreciate neither.
I was ok with pulling him there. He expended a lot of energy and 3rd time through and heart of order...
I didn't want to see 1-0 turn to 3-0 in one swing.
we need some fucking hits
right now I'd settle for 1.
Need to be out of this at 1-0. 2? Fine. But real tough.
Better bring in Bob Stanley. Or maybe Calvin Schiraldi.
'Stros get more runs, Sox are done.
Guess you can blame Cora for blowing this series, eh?
and the troll just keeps on trolling
SSDD
Alvarez was a force in that series
it was if all of Kike's mojo and hits and scorching at-bats in the first three games were voodooed in Alvarez's bat the last 3 games
it was weird, a team that was one of the best hitting teams in baseball went ice cold.
and the other, probably the best hitting team in baseball finally got steamy hot.
the best team won
but the Sox, for all their flaws, and they were discussed here, played hard, delivered far more than expected, and gave their fans a fun WC race to follow and enjoy for the last 60 days of the season. They got into the post-season on the last day, and then beat our ancient rival and then a newer one, and got within 2 games of getting into a WS.
I'd say most baseball fans would sign up for that.
Even if it meant reading the tear-stained posts of a sad and envious troll.
LMAO
Thanks Sox for a fun seson and congrats to Astro fans both old and those born just a week or so ago.
I've no idea what turns a hot team cold or vice versa. .I'm going with baseball is hard. Plus the hot hand fallacy.
Ham you're an idiot troll.
Thanks once again for proving it and that you do not understand the game nor acknowledge its streakiness.
LMAO
and fwiw, and for some balance and perspective take your sentence, "...for a team to go that cold..." and reverse the temp.
It carries just as much poor sportsmanship as your original thought and is just as stupid.
But then again you are a stupid poor sport.
And you do deliver.
LMAO
now go pee in your pants elsewhere
Ham you're an idiot troll.
Thanks once again for proving it and that you do not understand the game nor acknowledge its streakiness.
LMAO
and fwiw, and for some balance and perspective take your sentence, "...for a team to go that cold..." and reverse the temp.
It carries just as much poor sportsmanship as your original thought and is just as stupid.
But then again you are a stupid poor sport.
And you do deliver.
LMAO
now go pee in your pants elsewhere
You're trying to put on a game face, but we know you're crushed.
Sad you just can't be honest about how devastated you are.
Weak sauce, Little Richard.
I think most here understood the flaws of the '21 team and understood our likely ceiling. Well that ceiling was smashed and we got within a few feet of the penthouse. The Sox were both an easy team to cheer for and an easy team to swear at. But they gave us a summer of scoreboard watching, meaningful games, and a fun WC race, which was not settled until the last day of the season. You folks know the rest. So thanks Sox for a pretty good year that exceeded my expectations.
Ham you're an idiot troll.
Thanks once again for proving it and that you do not understand the game nor acknowledge its streakiness.
LMAO
and fwiw, and for some balance and perspective take your sentence, "...for a team to go that cold..." and reverse the temp.
It carries just as much poor sportsmanship as your original thought and is just as stupid.
But then again you are a stupid poor sport.
And you do deliver.
LMAO
now go pee in your pants elsewhere
You're trying to put on a game face, but we know you're crushed.
Sad you just can't be honest about how devastated you are.
Weak sauce, Little Richard.
LMAO
Wrong again troll.
You project your feelings of inadequacies.
Like any fan of a team that loses I'm disappointed.
But I don't so tie up my feelings of competence on what others control.
But I understand that people of more modest accomplishments, such as yourself, would take it so hard, crushed as you called it, as you've projected yourself to be.
You'll get over those tough losses and perhaps find the time to work on those personal weaknesses that have held you back for decades.
Best of luck Hammy on what will be a long and difficult journey to overcome yourself.
But before you start your journey, you should change your pee-stained trousers.
And mop up that pee puddle you left.
LMAO
Edit this was posted earlier today elsewhereQuote from: bankshot1, post: 4703407, member: 9
I think most here understood the flaws of the '21 team and understood our likely ceiling. Well that ceiling was smashed and we got within a few feet of the penthouse. The Sox were both an easy team to cheer for and an easy team to swear at. But they gave us a summer of scoreboard watching, meaningful games, and a fun WC race, which was not settled until the last day of the season. You folks know the rest. So thanks Sox for a pretty good year that exceeded my expectations.
Ham you're an idiot troll.
Thanks once again for proving it and that you do not understand the game nor acknowledge its streakiness.
LMAO
and fwiw, and for some balance and perspective take your sentence, "...for a team to go that cold..." and reverse the temp.
It carries just as much poor sportsmanship as your original thought and is just as stupid.
But then again you are a stupid poor sport.
And you do deliver.
LMAO
now go pee in your pants elsewhere
You're trying to put on a game face, but we know you're crushed.
Sad you just can't be honest about how devastated you are.
Weak sauce, Little Richard.
LMAO
Wrong again troll.
You project your feelings of inadequacies.
Like any fan of a team that loses I'm disappointed.
But I don't so tie up my feelings of competence on what others control.
But I understand that people of more modest accomplishments, such as yourself, would take it so hard, crushed as you called it, as you've projected yourself to be.
You'll get over those tough losses and perhaps find the time to work on those personal weaknesses that have held you back for decades.
Best of luck Hammy on what will be a long and difficult journey to overcome yourself.
But before you start your journey, you should change your pee-stained trousers.
And mop up that pee puddle you left.
LMAO
Edit this was posted earlier today elsewhereQuote from: bankshot1, post: 4703407, member: 9
I think most here understood the flaws of the '21 team and understood our likely ceiling. Well that ceiling was smashed and we got within a few feet of the penthouse. The Sox were both an easy team to cheer for and an easy team to swear at. But they gave us a summer of scoreboard watching, meaningful games, and a fun WC race, which was not settled until the last day of the season. You folks know the rest. So thanks Sox for a pretty good year that exceeded my expectations.
STILL IN DENIAL.Here, the hurt and pain peak through.
a fucking Fenway wall ball single ends the Sox season
we'll always have LAZ DIAZ![/i]
You should just let it out, banks. You'll feel better.
Ham you're an idiot troll.
Thanks once again for proving it and that you do not understand the game nor acknowledge its streakiness.
LMAO
and fwiw, and for some balance and perspective take your sentence, "...for a team to go that cold..." and reverse the temp.
It carries just as much poor sportsmanship as your original thought and is just as stupid.
But then again you are a stupid poor sport.
And you do deliver.
LMAO
now go pee in your pants elsewhere
You're trying to put on a game face, but we know you're crushed.
Sad you just can't be honest about how devastated you are.
Weak sauce, Little Richard.
I feel about this game pretty much how I did last night's.
If the Dodgers can't score runs then there is not much to be done.
Orel Hershiser blames Beuhler for the loss:
https://youtu.be/l1weY_oLJbw (https://youtu.be/l1weY_oLJbw)
NL West?
You lose.
NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!
Heh
One of us had the Astros in 6. Who was it?Moi.
Who will win the ALCS? (NL will be in the NLCS forum)
Red Sox in 7 - 0 (0%)
Red Sox in 6 - 2 (40%)
Red Sox in 5 - 1 (20%)
Red Sox in 4 - 1 (20%)
Astros in 4 - 0 (0%)
Astros in 5 - 0 (0%)
Astros in 6 - 1 (20%)
Astros in 7 - 0 (0%)
NL West?
You lose.
NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!
Heh
Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.
NL West?
You lose.
NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!
Heh
Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.
You missed the point. But probably because you follow the AL.
All season long, we heard how pathetic the NLE was and how GREAT the NLW was.
But the East forged resilient teams which overcame adversity, and the Braves exemplify that.
The Braves would also like to thank the Indians for trading Rosario to them for Kung Fu Panda and cash.
NL West?
You lose.
NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!
Heh
Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.
You missed the point. But probably because you follow the AL.
All season long, we heard how pathetic the NLE was and how GREAT the NLW was.
But the East forged resilient teams which overcame adversity, and the Braves exemplify that.
The Braves would also like to thank the Indians for trading Rosario to them for Kung Fu Panda and cash.
I think it's a stupid point.
Yes, the Braves beat one representative of the NL West. The other was beaten by their division-mate.
The top four teams in the NLW had only 13 fewer wins than the entire NLE. No team in the NLE had a winning record against the NLW and only one broke even. For that matter, the NLE had only 2 teams with a winning record against the NLC and none against the AL teams.
The NLE was and is pathetic in 2021.
The BRAVES won. That doesn't suddenly change how pathetic the division was.
Using your usual criterion, the AL East was by far and away the best division. Using mine, too. The NLE? Pathetic, no matter how you measure the group, regardless of the success of their best team. And during the regular season, that best team was only +1 outside their division. They destroyed their own defective NLE fellows. They were the worst outside their division of any of the playoff teams.
Of course, the 2nd worst were the Astros... but still +6, not a mere +1.
I hope they stay hot and beat the Astros.
I hope they stay hot and beat the Astros.
So do the other people betting on them.
NL West?
You lose.
NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!
Heh
Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.
You missed the point. But probably because you follow the AL.
All season long, we heard how pathetic the NLE was and how GREAT the NLW was.
But the East forged resilient teams which overcame adversity, and the Braves exemplify that.
The Braves would also like to thank the Indians for trading Rosario to them for Kung Fu Panda and cash.
I think it's a stupid point.
Yes, the Braves beat one representative of the NL West. The other was beaten by their division-mate.
The top four teams in the NLW had only 13 fewer wins than the entire NLE. No team in the NLE had a winning record against the NLW and only one broke even. For that matter, the NLE had only 2 teams with a winning record against the NLC and none against the AL teams.
The NLE was and is pathetic in 2021.
The BRAVES won. That doesn't suddenly change how pathetic the division was.
Using your usual criterion, the AL East was by far and away the best division. Using mine, too. The NLE? Pathetic, no matter how you measure the group, regardless of the success of their best team. And during the regular season, that best team was only +1 outside their division. They destroyed their own defective NLE fellows. They were the worst outside their division of any of the playoff teams.
Of course, the 2nd worst were the Astros... but still +6, not a mere +1.
Nope. The Braves won the NLE because they were resilient, survived losing Acuna, made good trades, played good defense, and because the NLW was overrated, as was the ALE, but that's another story.
If you watched real baseball, you might have a clue.
Divisional superiority trash talk is very compelling
NL West?
You lose.
NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!
Heh
Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.
You missed the point. But probably because you follow the AL.
All season long, we heard how pathetic the NLE was and how GREAT the NLW was.
But the East forged resilient teams which overcame adversity, and the Braves exemplify that.
The Braves would also like to thank the Indians for trading Rosario to them for Kung Fu Panda and cash.
I think it's a stupid point.
Yes, the Braves beat one representative of the NL West. The other was beaten by their division-mate.
The top four teams in the NLW had only 13 fewer wins than the entire NLE. No team in the NLE had a winning record against the NLW and only one broke even. For that matter, the NLE had only 2 teams with a winning record against the NLC and none against the AL teams.
The NLE was and is pathetic in 2021.
The BRAVES won. That doesn't suddenly change how pathetic the division was.
Using your usual criterion, the AL East was by far and away the best division. Using mine, too. The NLE? Pathetic, no matter how you measure the group, regardless of the success of their best team. And during the regular season, that best team was only +1 outside their division. They destroyed their own defective NLE fellows. They were the worst outside their division of any of the playoff teams.
Of course, the 2nd worst were the Astros... but still +6, not a mere +1.
Nope. The Braves won the NLE because they were resilient, survived losing Acuna, made good trades, played good defense, and because the NLW was overrated, as was the ALE, but that's another story.
If you watched real baseball, you might have a clue.
Sure. Whatever you say.
The Dodgers survived losing Kershaw, until they lost Scherzer, too. They made good trades.
The Braves played better, but, as you have just demonstrated, the National League East sucked as a division. The Braves were good.
No defense of your position that the NLE was great and the NLW did not deserve their praise.
I, too, hope the Braves beat the Astros, but their division sucked.
NL West?
You lose.
NL East? You're going to the World Series!!!
Heh
Atlanta and Houston are both refugees of the original NL West, anyway, so I think saying the NLW lost is not entirely fair. The Astros have still spent more time in the NLW than in any other division.
You missed the point. But probably because you follow the AL.
All season long, we heard how pathetic the NLE was and how GREAT the NLW was.
But the East forged resilient teams which overcame adversity, and the Braves exemplify that.
The Braves would also like to thank the Indians for trading Rosario to them for Kung Fu Panda and cash.
I think it's a stupid point.
Yes, the Braves beat one representative of the NL West. The other was beaten by their division-mate.
The top four teams in the NLW had only 13 fewer wins than the entire NLE. No team in the NLE had a winning record against the NLW and only one broke even. For that matter, the NLE had only 2 teams with a winning record against the NLC and none against the AL teams.
The NLE was and is pathetic in 2021.
The BRAVES won. That doesn't suddenly change how pathetic the division was.
Using your usual criterion, the AL East was by far and away the best division. Using mine, too. The NLE? Pathetic, no matter how you measure the group, regardless of the success of their best team. And during the regular season, that best team was only +1 outside their division. They destroyed their own defective NLE fellows. They were the worst outside their division of any of the playoff teams.
Of course, the 2nd worst were the Astros... but still +6, not a mere +1.
Nope. The Braves won the NLE because they were resilient, survived losing Acuna, made good trades, played good defense, and because the NLW was overrated, as was the ALE, but that's another story.
If you watched real baseball, you might have a clue.
Sure. Whatever you say.
The Dodgers survived losing Kershaw, until they lost Scherzer, too. They made good trades.
The Braves played better, but, as you have just demonstrated, the National League East sucked as a division. The Braves were good.
No defense of your position that the NLE was great and the NLW did not deserve their praise.
I, too, hope the Braves beat the Astros, but their division sucked.
You must have just started watching baseball.
Two of you predicted the Braves in 6 games. Who was it?
Who will win? (The AL poll is in the Major League forum)
Dodgers in 7 - 0 (0%)
Dodgers in 6 - 1 (20%)
Dodgers in 5 - 1 (20%)
Dodgers in 4 - 0 (0%)
Braves in 4 - 0 (0%)
Braves in 5 - 1 (20%)
Braves in 6 - 2 (40%)
Braves in 7 - 0 (0%)
Buehler gave up the 3 run blast. He certainly bearssomeall of the responsibility.
- Kept waiting for Walker's moment.
Nope.
Astros in 6
Go Braves!
No shutout tonight.
Another long start by an NL pitcher.
I hope Morton is okay and can return later in the series.
No shutout tonight.
Another long start by an NL pitcher.
I hope Morton is okay and can return later in the series.
Stupid comment, Josh. Morton was injured. Valdez has no excuse.
Very different game tonight.
Factor this in to the pitching over the next few days. MLB hates rainouts. They'll make them play.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688 (https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688)
Factor this in to the pitching over the next few days. MLB hates rainouts. They'll make them play.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688 (https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688)
There's nothing in that weather forecast that should preclude their playing. Showers tomorrow night, not a deluge. And Saturday night has no rain in it.
Shohei Ohtani, Bryce Harper, Max Scherzer and Robbie Ray highlighted the list of those who claimed Players Choice Awards for the 2021 season. The awards, announced Thursday on ESPN, are presented by the Major League Baseball Players Association and are voted on by the players themselves.
Ohtani and Ray were named Outstanding Player and Outstanding Pitcher, respectively, for the American League, while Harper and Scherzer claimed Outstanding Player and Outstanding Pitcher for the National League, honors similar to the MVP and Cy Young awards that are voted on by the Baseball Writers' Association of America.
Factor this in to the pitching over the next few days. MLB hates rainouts. They'll make them play.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688 (https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688)
There's nothing in that weather forecast that should preclude their playing. Showers tomorrow night, not a deluge. And Saturday night has no rain in it.
EXACTLY the problem for the pitching staffs, josh. NO DELUGE. A deluge would allow a reset for the team's staffs, but those rain delays that are likely would cause more use/overuse of the BPs.
So, when I wrote that you should factor this in to the pitching over the next few days, I thought anyone with a modicum of understanding of what is really going on in this series would get that.
Apparently, you're not someone who knows what is really going on in this series.
What happens when a ridiculous figure like 3.5 trillion dollars enters as a serious thought -
The 400+ million that this would cost seems small
heh
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/murphy-letter-cabinet-secretaries-horrific-decision
Shohei Ohtani, Bryce Harper, Max Scherzer and Robbie Ray highlighted the list of those who claimed Players Choice Awards for the 2021 season. The awards, announced Thursday on ESPN, are presented by the Major League Baseball Players Association and are voted on by the players themselves.
Ohtani and Ray were named Outstanding Player and Outstanding Pitcher, respectively, for the American League, while Harper and Scherzer claimed Outstanding Player and Outstanding Pitcher for the National League, honors similar to the MVP and Cy Young awards that are voted on by the Baseball Writers' Association of America.
I think the MLBPA should vote on Outstanding Baseball Writer of the Year.
he average viewership for the 2021 MLB postseason through the division series was at its highest marks since 2018. Viewership is up 89% from the 2020 MLB playoffs and there is a 3% spike from the playoffs in 2019.
Factor this in to the pitching over the next few days. MLB hates rainouts. They'll make them play.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688 (https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688)
There's nothing in that weather forecast that should preclude their playing. Showers tomorrow night, not a deluge. And Saturday night has no rain in it.
EXACTLY the problem for the pitching staffs, josh. NO DELUGE. A deluge would allow a reset for the team's staffs, but those rain delays that are likely would cause more use/overuse of the BPs.
So, when I wrote that you should factor this in to the pitching over the next few days, I thought anyone with a modicum of understanding of what is really going on in this series would get that.
Apparently, you're not someone who knows what is really going on in this series.
Cold is the key.
50s, maybe even 40s all three days
10mph winds as well today and tomorrow
Advantage - BRAVES. But wont be enough
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688
Factor this in to the pitching over the next few days. MLB hates rainouts. They'll make them play.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688 (https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688)
There's nothing in that weather forecast that should preclude their playing. Showers tomorrow night, not a deluge. And Saturday night has no rain in it.
EXACTLY the problem for the pitching staffs, josh. NO DELUGE. A deluge would allow a reset for the team's staffs, but those rain delays that are likely would cause more use/overuse of the BPs.
So, when I wrote that you should factor this in to the pitching over the next few days, I thought anyone with a modicum of understanding of what is really going on in this series would get that.
Apparently, you're not someone who knows what is really going on in this series.Cold is the key.
50s, maybe even 40s all three days
10mph winds as well today and tomorrow
Advantage - BRAVES. But wont be enough
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688
Good game for the Braves!
And thank the gods that they managed to overcome those rain delays and that vicious wind.
The advantage to the Braves of the weather may not be enough, but better to be up 2-1 than down.
Major League Baseball welcomed fans back into the stands in 2021, but attendance was at a generational low.I am sure it is because of Colin Kaepernick, kneeling players and Black Lives Matter.
The league saw 45.3 million fans attend regular-season games in 2021, a 33.9% drop from the 68.5 million in 2019, and the lowest figure since 1984.
Certain caveats apply: Many teams only opened to full capacity by midseason, and the Toronto Blue Jays played at alternate sites until late July due to Canadian travel restrictions.
However, fans also watched fewer games from home.
https://frontofficesports.com/mlb-attendance-hits-37-year-low/ (https://frontofficesports.com/mlb-attendance-hits-37-year-low/)
Get a life, Kuntzler.
Get a life, Kuntzler.
Ham says, "I have no meaningful rebuttal, HL."
Not one that you were able to interstand you mean.Get a life, Kuntzler.
Ham says, "I have no meaningful rebuttal, HL."
There was no argument put forth.
I had mixed feeling when Anderson got pulled. We are seeing a new type of game evolve. I understand that winning is the goal, and the dreaded 3rd time through must be avoided, but...
Coincidently I was at the Lonborg 1-hitter G2 '67 WS, sitting in right-center, when Julian Javier doubled in the 8th and thought "shit there goes the no-hitter".
Even more coincidently I saw Ian Anderson in November 1969. He sucked, he didn't have his good stuff. Although to be fair the '21 Braves are better than the '69 Jethro Tulls.
Not one that you were able to interstand you mean.Get a life, Kuntzler.
Ham says, "I have no meaningful rebuttal, HL."
There was no argument put forth.
Not one that you were able to interstand you mean.Get a life, Kuntzler.
Ham says, "I have no meaningful rebuttal, HL."
There was no argument put forth.
Not one you could ever make, let alone made.
Hope no pays you to be their lawyer, Kuntzler.
Not one that you were able to interstand you mean.Get a life, Kuntzler.
Ham says, "I have no meaningful rebuttal, HL."
There was no argument put forth.
Not one you could ever make, let alone made.
Hope no pays you to be their lawyer, Kuntzler.
Hope no pays you to be their editor or English teacher, Ham.
And if you thought he made no argument to be understood then this response from you is totally lacking reference.
Instead, you disprove your claim that there was no argument.
Nothing new here, though.
Not one that you were able to interstand you mean.Get a life, Kuntzler.
Ham says, "I have no meaningful rebuttal, HL."
There was no argument put forth.
Not one you could ever make, let alone made.
Hope no pays you to be their lawyer, Kuntzler.
Hope no pays you to be their editor or English teacher, Ham.
And if you thought he made no argument to be understood then this response from you is totally lacking reference.
Instead, you disprove your claim that there was no argument.
Nothing new here, though.
GFY, Josh.
Nothing from nothing means nothing.
Please explain the argument that you think was made.
here is what was posted.
I am sure it is because of Colin Kaepernick, kneeling players and Black Lives Matter.
There was NO argument made, and thereby I have no obligation to respond to something that does not exist.
Please explain the argument that you think was made.
here is what was posted.
I am sure it is because of Colin Kaepernick, kneeling players and Black Lives Matter.
There was NO argument made, and thereby I have no obligation to respond to something that does not exist.
The argument that you seem to be missing is that since you attributed the decline in NFL ratings to Kaepernick and kneeling players and you attributed the decline in NBA ratings to BLM, obviously they must be responsible for the decline in MLB ratings, too, in your opinion, Ham, because you are so consistent.
(Not.)
Please explain the argument that you think was made.
here is what was posted.
I am sure it is because of Colin Kaepernick, kneeling players and Black Lives Matter.
There was NO argument made, and thereby I have no obligation to respond to something that does not exist.
The argument that you seem to be missing is that since you attributed the decline in NFL ratings to Kaepernick and kneeling players and you attributed the decline in NBA ratings to BLM, obviously they must be responsible for the decline in MLB ratings, too, in your opinion, Ham, because you are so consistent.
(Not.)
I see. So it was not an argument, just pure conjecture and nonsense.
Thanks for proving that he and you are both a part of the same state of delusion.
Head back to your echo chamber.
Fuckhead.
Please explain the argument that you think was made.
here is what was posted.
I am sure it is because of Colin Kaepernick, kneeling players and Black Lives Matter.
There was NO argument made, and thereby I have no obligation to respond to something that does not exist.
The argument that you seem to be missing is that since you attributed the decline in NFL ratings to Kaepernick and kneeling players and you attributed the decline in NBA ratings to BLM, obviously they must be responsible for the decline in MLB ratings, too, in your opinion, Ham, because you are so consistent.
(Not.)
I see. So it was not an argument, just pure conjecture and nonsense.
Thanks for proving that he and you are both a part of the same state of delusion.
Head back to your echo chamber.
Fuckhead.
Ham denies the obvious and pretends it doesn't apply to him.
More and more, he resembles Ward: lie, deny, and obfuscate.
I had mixed feeling when Anderson got pulled. We are seeing a new type of game evolve. I understand that winning is the goal, and the dreaded 3rd time through must be avoided, but...
Coincidently I was at the Lonborg 1-hitter G2 '67 WS, sitting in right-center, when Julian Javier doubled in the 8th and thought "shit there goes the no-hitter".
Even more coincidently I saw Ian Anderson in November 1969. He sucked, he didn't have his good stuff. Although to be fair the '21 Braves are better than the '69 Jethro Tulls.
My wife made a Tull reference last night and I missed it, because I'm thick as a brick.
I had mixed feeling when Anderson got pulled. We are seeing a new type of game evolve. I understand that winning is the goal, and the dreaded 3rd time through must be avoided, but...
Coincidently I was at the Lonborg 1-hitter G2 '67 WS, sitting in right-center, when Julian Javier doubled in the 8th and thought "shit there goes the no-hitter".
Even more coincidently I saw Ian Anderson in November 1969. He sucked, he didn't have his good stuff. Although to be fair the '21 Braves are better than the '69 Jethro Tulls.
My wife made a Tull reference last night and I missed it, because I'm thick as a brick.
Although maybe when she pointed out that you had, "snot running down your nose" it may not have been a Tull reference?
heh
I had mixed feeling when Anderson got pulled. We are seeing a new type of game evolve. I understand that winning is the goal, and the dreaded 3rd time through must be avoided, but...
Coincidently I was at the Lonborg 1-hitter G2 '67 WS, sitting in right-center, when Julian Javier doubled in the 8th and thought "shit there goes the no-hitter".
Even more coincidently I saw Ian Anderson in November 1969. He sucked, he didn't have his good stuff. Although to be fair the '21 Braves are better than the '69 Jethro Tulls.
My wife made a Tull reference last night and I missed it, because I'm thick as a brick.
Although maybe when she pointed out that you had, "snot running down your nose" it may not have been a Tull reference?
heh
The real shocker is that someone married such a pedantic tool as Josh.
According to a survey by Sports Business Journal, MLB's average fan age is 57, which is far higher than that of the National Basketball Association (NBA), National Football League (NFL), and National Hockey League (NHL), whose average ages are 42, 50 and 49 respectively.
Game is in trouble.
I had mixed feeling when Anderson got pulled. We are seeing a new type of game evolve. I understand that winning is the goal, and the dreaded 3rd time through must be avoided, but...
Coincidently I was at the Lonborg 1-hitter G2 '67 WS, sitting in right-center, when Julian Javier doubled in the 8th and thought "shit there goes the no-hitter".
Even more coincidently I saw Ian Anderson in November 1969. He sucked, he didn't have his good stuff. Although to be fair the '21 Braves are better than the '69 Jethro Tulls.
My wife made a Tull reference last night and I missed it, because I'm thick as a brick.
Although maybe when she pointed out that you had, "snot running down your nose" it may not have been a Tull reference?
heh
The real shocker is that someone married such a pedantic tool as Josh.
The real question is whether Ham can figure out why this stupid attack won't get him in trouble, compared with his comments that did.
His prior protestations would suggest not, but maybe he'll surprise us.
I had mixed feeling when Anderson got pulled. We are seeing a new type of game evolve. I understand that winning is the goal, and the dreaded 3rd time through must be avoided, but...
Coincidently I was at the Lonborg 1-hitter G2 '67 WS, sitting in right-center, when Julian Javier doubled in the 8th and thought "shit there goes the no-hitter".
Even more coincidently I saw Ian Anderson in November 1969. He sucked, he didn't have his good stuff. Although to be fair the '21 Braves are better than the '69 Jethro Tulls.
My wife made a Tull reference last night and I missed it, because I'm thick as a brick.
Although maybe when she pointed out that you had, "snot running down your nose" it may not have been a Tull reference?
heh
The real shocker is that someone married such a pedantic tool as Josh.
The real question is whether Ham can figure out why this stupid attack won't get him in trouble, compared with his comments that did.
His prior protestations would suggest not, but maybe he'll surprise us.
Let us know when you're done trying to bait me like you've been doing for the last few weeks, pedantic one.
Factor this in to the pitching over the next few days. MLB hates rainouts. They'll make them play.
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688 (https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688)
There's nothing in that weather forecast that should preclude their playing. Showers tomorrow night, not a deluge. And Saturday night has no rain in it.
EXACTLY the problem for the pitching staffs, josh. NO DELUGE. A deluge would allow a reset for the team's staffs, but those rain delays that are likely would cause more use/overuse of the BPs.
So, when I wrote that you should factor this in to the pitching over the next few days, I thought anyone with a modicum of understanding of what is really going on in this series would get that.
Apparently, you're not someone who knows what is really going on in this series.Cold is the key.
50s, maybe even 40s all three days
10mph winds as well today and tomorrow
Advantage - BRAVES. But wont be enough
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688
Good game for the Braves!
And thank the gods that they managed to overcome those rain delays and that vicious wind.
The advantage to the Braves of the weather may not be enough, but better to be up 2-1 than down.
America hates the Astros more than they like Dusty Baker.
America hopes the Braves close it out, tonight
Zack Greinke did his job, though.
Braves lefties are shutting down Houston the way they shut down LA.
Pitching and defense usually wins.
Classy is as classy does.
Classy is as classy does.
its not a surprise that a fucking asshole produces nothing but shit.
Classy is as classy does.
its not a surprise that a fucking asshole produces nothing but shit.
Remy WAS an asshole, yes, the evidence is there.
But he was YOUR asshole, so RIP, banksy.
Classy is as classy does.
its not a surprise that a fucking asshole produces nothing but shit.
Remy WAS an asshole, yes, the evidence is there.
But he was YOUR asshole, so RIP, banksy.
My interaction with Remy was 1-way. I enjoyed him as a ballplayer and as a color guy. He was good at what he did, and it seems for all his faults, he had friends and colleagues who loved and respected him.
But he wasn't my asshole.
You, on the other hand, I interact with on a 2-way basis. While limited in nature, I have a more nuanced and developed relationship and have more insight into your character.
And I can say without a moment's hesitation, you're a nasty fucking asshole, who produces nothing but shit.
Now wash and wipe yourself, you smell like you.
Hero?
No.
Just a ballplayer and entertainer who died from a terrible disease that he fought for years, and to whom I paid my respects on that basis.
You know, what normal people do.
Oh, right, never mind.
But Hammy human or not, you should still wash and wipe yourself as you still reek of shit.
Fuckin Johnny Baker
Dude, we know you could never will your team to close but if you lose this in 5.. well - that would be an all time embarrassment
Black folk won't show to watch white players
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/31/us/atlanta-braves-history-racism-blake/index.html
"The park has a TRUMP feel to it"
Funny.
I thought you were leaving for SOSH. Do you need help packing?
I thought you were leaving for SOSH. Do you need help packing?
Kid probably got lost.
I thought you were leaving for SOSH. Do you need help packing?
Kid probably got lost.
They won't allow my handle, so...
Nothing to do with '86 Mets allowed.
I thought you were leaving for SOSH. Do you need help packing?
Kid probably got lost.
They won't allow my handle, so...
Nothing to do with '86 Mets allowed.
I thought you were leaving for SOSH. Do you need help packing?
Kid probably got lost.
They won't allow my handle, so...
Nothing to do with '86 Mets allowed.
I thought you were leaving for SOSH. Do you need help packing?
Kid probably got lost.
They won't allow my handle, so...
Nothing to do with '86 Mets allowed.
I just registered Buckner's Bad Ankles as a back-up handle @ SoSH.
You really are an idiot.
90 minutes for the first 3 innings.
Hope the rest of the game goes more swiftly.
Sort of.
Torn about wanting more baseball vs. wanting the Braves to win and not risk letting the Astros back into it!
You really are an idiot.
Will they be building a statue to your dead crook?
And Joe Buck just delivered a eulogy to Remy on tonight's World Series broadcast.
to quote Buck, "a sad, sad loss for all of baseball, and beloved in all New England"
I thought you were leaving for SOSH. Do you need help packing?
Kid probably got lost.
They won't allow my handle, so...
Nothing to do with '86 Mets allowed.
I just registered Buckner's Bad Ankles as a back-up handle @ SoSH.
Sosh is defined by the Urban Dictionary as ...Socially off- socially awkward. A person who doesn't know how to act around people. Usually stares and awkwardly tries to jump into conversation.
That pretty much describes banks.
No wonder he like SoSH.
Heh
And Joe Buck just delivered a eulogy to Remy on tonight's World Series broadcast.
to quote Buck, "a sad, sad loss for all of baseball, and beloved in all New England"
Quite a few retired ballplayers die each season. Maybe Joe would like to name some of the others in the next broadcast.
Sorry - I am leaving Stanek in bottom 8.
How do you remove a guy and replace him with an arm that may not have it tonight?
Ridiculous, Baker.
I would think Henry Aaron deserves a mention. As does Eddie Robinson, who died this month.
How do you remove a guy and replace him with an arm that may not have it tonight?
Ridiculous, Baker.
I don't think Remy will get a statue, but maybe with the money he has helped raise for cancer awareness, there will be a Jerry Remy patient waiting room, where parents and sick kids can watch the Sox at the Dana Farber Cancer Center.
Just like Mussolini.
And Joe Buck just delivered a eulogy to Remy on tonight's World Series broadcast.
to quote Buck, "a sad, sad loss for all of baseball, and beloved in all New England"
Quite a few retired ballplayers die each season. Maybe Joe would like to name some of the others in the next broadcast.
I thought you were leaving for SOSH. Do you need help packing?
Kid probably got lost.
They won't allow my handle, so...
Nothing to do with '86 Mets allowed.
I just registered Buckner's Bad Ankles as a back-up handle @ SoSH.
Sosh is defined by the Urban Dictionary as ...Socially off- socially awkward. A person who doesn't know how to act around people. Usually stares and awkwardly tries to jump into conversation.
That pretty much describes banks.
No wonder he like SoSH.
Heh
LMAO
Some fact checking of the troll
I know its meaningless but I had never seen that definition, so I checked.
The troll's source:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sosh (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sosh)
Short for the word social, meaning to go out and socialise with other people.
"mate you going out tonight? Because i am so game for the sosh!"
"Im having such a good time the sosh is electric!"
Poor troll even his rebuttals are frauds.
Big surprise.
HEH
And Joe Buck just delivered a eulogy to Remy on tonight's World Series broadcast.
to quote Buck, "a sad, sad loss for all of baseball, and beloved in all New England"
Quite a few retired ballplayers die each season. Maybe Joe would like to name some of the others in the next broadcast.
Joe Buck only got his job due to nepotism. Like Chris Wallace.
And Josh.
I would think Henry Aaron deserves a mention. As does Eddie Robinson, who died this month.
You must have missed the Henry Aaron mentions, Kid.
And Joe Buck just delivered a eulogy to Remy on tonight's World Series broadcast.
to quote Buck, "a sad, sad loss for all of baseball, and beloved in all New England"
Quite a few retired ballplayers die each season. Maybe Joe would like to name some of the others in the next broadcast.
Joe Buck only got his job due to nepotism. Like Chris Wallace.
And Josh.
Can't wait for an explanation for that last one.
Oh, wait. He can't explain it - he can just make vague innuendo.
Joe Buck only got his shot at the job by nepotism. I think that's just true.
He held the job because the powers that be thought and think that he does it well. (I think he varies wildly.)
The same seems likely of Chris Wallace. Nepotism gave him the opening, but he still had to deliver.
Indeed, Ham, one might say they had a lot of privilege that influenced their lives.
Just like you did, even if they may have had more than you. Just like the vast majority of us here, your life was easier because you were white. It's just another form of unearned initial opportunity.
Nice to know you finally admit that privilege is a thing.
Troll justs keeps on doubling down on his stupidity.
and he loses
so he doubles down on lies
and gets the same results.
SSDD
LMAO
As an aside, to test kid's claim I opened a new SoSH account last night with a handle that had a direct connection to the '86 WS.
went through as quickly and easily as a lie through Hammy's shit-stained lips.
Troll justs keeps on doubling down on his stupidity.
and he loses
so he doubles down on lies
and gets the same results.
SSDD
LMAO
As an aside, to test kid's claim I opened a new SoSH account last night with a handle that had a direct connection to the '86 WS.
went through as quickly and easily as a lie through Hammy's shit-stained lips.
The evidence is clear. That yoy can't scroll down a webpage says a lot about your lintligence, mule.
The lies are yours.
As always.
I've already shown that.
The beatings continue.
You've never learned from your past mistakes.
Or you're a masochist.
And Joe Buck just delivered a eulogy to Remy on tonight's World Series broadcast.
to quote Buck, "a sad, sad loss for all of baseball, and beloved in all New England"
Quite a few retired ballplayers die each season. Maybe Joe would like to name some of the others in the next broadcast.
Joe Buck only got his job due to nepotism. Like Chris Wallace.
And Josh.
Can't wait for an explanation for that last one.
Oh, wait. He can't explain it - he can just make vague innuendo.
Joe Buck only got his shot at the job by nepotism. I think that's just true.
He held the job because the powers that be thought and think that he does it well. (I think he varies wildly.)
The same seems likely of Chris Wallace. Nepotism gave him the opening, but he still had to deliver.
Indeed, Ham, one might say they had a lot of privilege that influenced their lives.
Just like you did, even if they may have had more than you. Just like the vast majority of us here, your life was easier because you were white. It's just another form of unearned initial opportunity.
Nice to know you finally admit that privilege is a thing.
Too funny, wokie.
Aaron played right, left, center, first, second and third.
Troll justs keeps on doubling down on his stupidity.
and he loses
so he doubles down on lies
and gets the same results.
SSDD
LMAO
As an aside, to test kid's claim I opened a new SoSH account last night with a handle that had a direct connection to the '86 WS.
went through as quickly and easily as a lie through Hammy's shit-stained lips.
The evidence is clear. That yoy can't scroll down a webpage says a lot about your lintligence, mule.
The lies are yours.
As always.
I've already shown that.
The beatings continue.
You've never learned from your past mistakes.
Or you're a masochist.
Ham still thinks what he does constitutes "beatings."
Coming from a guy who lectured us about what "battling" meant with regard to cancer, it's pretty damned funny.
Troll justs keeps on doubling down on his stupidity.
and he loses
so he doubles down on lies
and gets the same results.
SSDD
LMAO
As an aside, to test kid's claim I opened a new SoSH account last night with a handle that had a direct connection to the '86 WS.
went through as quickly and easily as a lie through Hammy's shit-stained lips.
The evidence is clear. That yoy can't scroll down a webpage says a lot about your lintligence, mule.
The lies are yours.
As always.
I've already shown that.
The beatings continue.
You've never learned from your past mistakes.
Or you're a masochist.
Ham still thinks what he does constitutes "beatings."
Coming from a guy who lectured us about what "battling" meant with regard to cancer, it's pretty damned funny.
You and banks have now earned what's coming.
Troll justs keeps on doubling down on his stupidity.
and he loses
so he doubles down on lies
and gets the same results.
SSDD
LMAO
As an aside, to test kid's claim I opened a new SoSH account last night with a handle that had a direct connection to the '86 WS.
went through as quickly and easily as a lie through Hammy's shit-stained lips.
The evidence is clear. That yoy can't scroll down a webpage says a lot about your lintligence, mule.
The lies are yours.
As always.
I've already shown that.
The beatings continue.
You've never learned from your past mistakes.
Or you're a masochist.
Ham still thinks what he does constitutes "beatings."
Coming from a guy who lectured us about what "battling" meant with regard to cancer, it's pretty damned funny.
You and banks have now earned what's coming.
Uh huh.
Threatening us is always a good way to stay here.
If you cannot take it when we point out your hyperbole and your bogus positions, then maybe you should go post on SoSH, instead.
Or anywhere else.
Again.
Troll justs keeps on doubling down on his stupidity.
and he loses
so he doubles down on lies
and gets the same results.
SSDD
LMAO
As an aside, to test kid's claim I opened a new SoSH account last night with a handle that had a direct connection to the '86 WS.
went through as quickly and easily as a lie through Hammy's shit-stained lips.
The evidence is clear. That yoy can't scroll down a webpage says a lot about your lintligence, mule.
The lies are yours.
As always.
I've already shown that.
The beatings continue.
You've never learned from your past mistakes.
Or you're a masochist.
Ham still thinks what he does constitutes "beatings."
Coming from a guy who lectured us about what "battling" meant with regard to cancer, it's pretty damned funny.
You and banks have now earned what's coming.
Uh huh.
Threatening us is always a good way to stay here.
If you cannot take it when we point out your hyperbole and your bogus positions, then maybe you should go post on SoSH, instead.
Or anywhere else.
Again.
There you go again. Rewriting what's been written.
Leave the fiction writing and revisions to the naturally dishonest banks.
He's a much better liar than you.
Aaron played right, left, center, first, second and third.
Troll justs keeps on doubling down on his stupidity.
and he loses
so he doubles down on lies
and gets the same results.
SSDD
LMAO
As an aside, to test kid's claim I opened a new SoSH account last night with a handle that had a direct connection to the '86 WS.
went through as quickly and easily as a lie through Hammy's shit-stained lips.
The evidence is clear. That yoy can't scroll down a webpage says a lot about your lintligence, mule.
The lies are yours.
As always.
I've already shown that.
The beatings continue.
You've never learned from your past mistakes.
Or you're a masochist.
Ham still thinks what he does constitutes "beatings."
Coming from a guy who lectured us about what "battling" meant with regard to cancer, it's pretty damned funny.
You and banks have now earned what's coming.
Uh huh.
Threatening us is always a good way to stay here.
If you cannot take it when we point out your hyperbole and your bogus positions, then maybe you should go post on SoSH, instead.
Or anywhere else.
Again.
There you go again. Rewriting what's been written.
Leave the fiction writing and revisions to the naturally dishonest banks.
He's a much better liar than you.
Are you pretending that wasn't a threat?
(Not a physical one, but a threat nonetheless.)
LMAO
Is Slick Sammy, the Dupont Dipstick, still pissed that the "definition" he posted was the 10th cited in that link, that he ignored the vastly more common and accepted (via the likes) definitions, and only 1 person, likely Slick himself, liked the last listed definition that only he accepted as proper usage.
The only points Slick Sammy made were
1) he made himself look like an idiot with his desperate and wholly irrelevant attempt to re-define what SoSH is or isn't.
and
2) he defaults to empty threats of retaliation when his empty rhetorical attacks are exposed for the angry garbage it is.
He's just a pathetic troll
SSDD
The Red Sox in 2020:
Last year there were 7 reported incidents at Fenway Park where fans used racial slurs, wrote the Red Sox in their statement Wednesday. Those are just the ones we know about. And it's not just players. It happens to the dedicated Black employees who work for us on game days.
What were the 2021 numbers? Had to be higher, especially in the Yankees play-in game and the Astros series.
We need a follow-up report.
Or did the well documented problem of RSN Bigotry magically disappear?
The Red Sox in 2020:
Last year there were 7 reported incidents at Fenway Park where fans used racial slurs, wrote the Red Sox in their statement Wednesday. Those are just the ones we know about. And it's not just players. It happens to the dedicated Black employees who work for us on game days.
What were the 2021 numbers? Had to be higher, especially in the Yankees play-in game and the Astros series.
We need a follow-up report.
Or did the well documented problem of RSN Bigotry magically disappear?
Oh, no, Banks!
Now we are getting more of what we deserve!
In the name of trying to get under our skins, Hamilton continues his attacks on Boston, while pretending he cares about Blacks.
Whatever will we do in the face of such impotent fury?!
The Red Sox in 2020:
Last year there were 7 reported incidents at Fenway Park where fans used racial slurs, wrote the Red Sox in their statement Wednesday. Those are just the ones we know about. And it's not just players. It happens to the dedicated Black employees who work for us on game days.
What were the 2021 numbers? Had to be higher, especially in the Yankees play-in game and the Astros series.
We need a follow-up report.
Or did the well documented problem of RSN Bigotry magically disappear?
Oh, no, Banks!
Now we are getting more of what we deserve!
In the name of trying to get under our skins, Hamilton continues his attacks on Boston, while pretending he cares about Blacks.
Whatever will we do in the face of such impotent fury?!
Did you ban him yet?
The Red Sox in 2020:
Last year there were 7 reported incidents at Fenway Park where fans used racial slurs, wrote the Red Sox in their statement Wednesday. Those are just the ones we know about. And it's not just players. It happens to the dedicated Black employees who work for us on game days.
What were the 2021 numbers? Had to be higher, especially in the Yankees play-in game and the Astros series.
We need a follow-up report.
Or did the well documented problem of RSN Bigotry magically disappear?
Oh, no, Banks!
Now we are getting more of what we deserve!
In the name of trying to get under our skins, Hamilton continues his attacks on Boston, while pretending he cares about Blacks.
Whatever will we do in the face of such impotent fury?!
Did you ban him yet?
Did you delete your tale of ass-kicking in your private life?
The Red Sox in 2020:
Last year there were 7 reported incidents at Fenway Park where fans used racial slurs, wrote the Red Sox in their statement Wednesday. Those are just the ones we know about. And it's not just players. It happens to the dedicated Black employees who work for us on game days.
What were the 2021 numbers? Had to be higher, especially in the Yankees play-in game and the Astros series.
We need a follow-up report.
Or did the well documented problem of RSN Bigotry magically disappear?
Oh, no, Banks!
Now we are getting more of what we deserve!
In the name of trying to get under our skins, Hamilton continues his attacks on Boston, while pretending he cares about Blacks.
Whatever will we do in the face of such impotent fury?!
Did you ban him yet?
Did you delete your tale of ass-kicking in your private life?
So, your BUD gets to dox others?
The Red Sox in 2020:
Last year there were 7 reported incidents at Fenway Park where fans used racial slurs, wrote the Red Sox in their statement Wednesday. Those are just the ones we know about. And it's not just players. It happens to the dedicated Black employees who work for us on game days.
What were the 2021 numbers? Had to be higher, especially in the Yankees play-in game and the Astros series.
We need a follow-up report.
Or did the well documented problem of RSN Bigotry magically disappear?
Oh, no, Banks!
Now we are getting more of what we deserve!
In the name of trying to get under our skins, Hamilton continues his attacks on Boston, while pretending he cares about Blacks.
Whatever will we do in the face of such impotent fury?!
Did you ban him yet?
Did you delete your tale of ass-kicking in your private life?
So, your BUD gets to dox others?
Sammy you weren't doxxed, you were goosed.
You've told us about your years growing up hustling stick in Delaware and I added some depth and color to your fairy tales.
LMAO
But please bring your charges in full!
The Red Sox in 2020:
Last year there were 7 reported incidents at Fenway Park where fans used racial slurs, wrote the Red Sox in their statement Wednesday. Those are just the ones we know about. And it's not just players. It happens to the dedicated Black employees who work for us on game days.
What were the 2021 numbers? Had to be higher, especially in the Yankees play-in game and the Astros series.
We need a follow-up report.
Or did the well documented problem of RSN Bigotry magically disappear?
Oh, no, Banks!
Now we are getting more of what we deserve!
In the name of trying to get under our skins, Hamilton continues his attacks on Boston, while pretending he cares about Blacks.
Whatever will we do in the face of such impotent fury?!
Did you ban him yet?
Did you delete your tale of ass-kicking in your private life?
So, your BUD gets to dox others?
Actually peeked in here today to follow WS activity. Oy.
Yes he did but Aaron was known as a right-fielder.
Depends who you are.
I expect Atlanta to win tonight.
I expect Atlanta to win tonight.
A boring World Series, but glad to see the NLE show why it was the most competitive division in baseball this season.
glad to see the NLE show why it was the most competitive division in baseball this season.
glad to see the NLE show why it was the most competitive division in baseball this season.
Except that it wasn't.
The AL East was more competitive this season by a large measure.
These race charts for the season indicate that the NLE is the one division which had by record the closest bunching of all of its teams throughout the entire season.
This is what I mean by competitive division.
ALE did well, but the O's are the ALE punching bag. In the NLE, there were never any assumed victories.
That is all.
https://erikberg.com/mlb/charts (https://erikberg.com/mlb/charts)
The Braves WS win was an example of a team getting hot at the right time.
Good for them, they are the champs.
IMO, by most accepted standards the most competitive of MLB's divisions was the AL East, where 4 teams, with 90+ wins, competed until the last day of the season for post-season play
The BEST division was the AL EastThe best and most competitive division was [the one my favorite team plays in.] End of argument.
The most competitive was WHOGIVESASHIT
These race charts for the season indicate that the NLE is the one division which had by record the closest bunching of all of its teams throughout the entire season.
This is what I mean by competitive division.
ALE did well, but the O's are the ALE punching bag. In the NLE, there were never any assumed victories.
That is all.
https://erikberg.com/mlb/charts (https://erikberg.com/mlb/charts)
The NLE was the punching bag for the rest of the league. The AL Central was 5 games better at top and bottom. They were both under water, but the NL East was deeper.
Washington lost more than 60% of their in division games.
Detroit, not the worst ALC team, was worst in division games, but they only lost 58% of their games.
Were there other teams with bigger punching bags than either? Sure. But neither division was competitive other than within their division and the ALC was more competitive overall. Was the NLE more competitive in some parts of the season? Sure.
But the Braves' win didn't prove a damned thing about how competitive the NLE was and it is bizarre to claim it did.
It did prove how well put back together they were at mid-season!
These race charts for the season indicate that the NLE is the one division which had by record the closest bunching of all of its teams throughout the entire season.
This is what I mean by competitive division.
ALE did well, but the O's are the ALE punching bag. In the NLE, there were never any assumed victories.
That is all.
https://erikberg.com/mlb/charts (https://erikberg.com/mlb/charts)
The NLE was the punching bag for the rest of the league. The AL Central was 5 games better at top and bottom. They were both under water, but the NL East was deeper.
Washington lost more than 60% of their in division games.
Detroit, not the worst ALC team, was worst in division games, but they only lost 58% of their games.
Were there other teams with bigger punching bags than either? Sure. But neither division was competitive other than within their division and the ALC was more competitive overall. Was the NLE more competitive in some parts of the season? Sure.
But the Braves' win didn't prove a damned thing about how competitive the NLE was and it is bizarre to claim it did.
It did prove how well put back together they were at mid-season!
Clearly you missed the point.
No surprise there.
Pretty competitive though, eh, Josh?
Don't be such a prick. Maybe bring another baseball issue to light, so the horse can rest in peace.
Joc Pederson - seemed to be having such a great time in ATL
Declines option.
Sad.
Joc Pederson - seemed to be having such a great time in ATL
Declines option.
Sad.
https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411 (https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411)
https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411 (https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411)
https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411 (https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411)
It would be pretty funny if Shildt won the Manager award after having been fired. I think it will be Kapler. In the AL, the Mariner's skipper would be my bet.
If somebody other than Ohtani wins the MVP I'd be surprised. Harper looks likely to win in the NL.
I'm thinking Ray and Burnes for Cy Young.
Franco would be my ROY bet. I have no opinion in the NL contest.
I wonder when and for whom the Manager of the Year and MVP awards will be named. It seems inevitable, though I could see them giving the two MVP awards different names.
Why would you want to name an award celebrating managerial success named after a guy whose lifetime record was considerably under .500?
The problem with New York is that it's New York, according to Sandy Alderson.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32591517/new-york-mets-sandy-alderson-says-new-york-city-deterrent-team-gm-search (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32591517/new-york-mets-sandy-alderson-says-new-york-city-deterrent-team-gm-search)
I guess no one wants to put on their big boy pants, anymore.
Owning the team helped I guess.
Most managers only have the privilege of managing a couple of last-place teams. If you're comfortable naming a managerial success award after a manager who finished last 17 times, who am I to argue?
Using WAR stats instead of arbitration is proposed: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/mlb-proposes-replacing-arbitration-with-salaries-based-off-player-war-totals.html (https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/mlb-proposes-replacing-arbitration-with-salaries-based-off-player-war-totals.html)
Arbitration can lean a little more heavily than most modern teams do on traditional box score statistics like pitcher wins, saves, and hitters
Using WAR stats instead of arbitration is proposed: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/mlb-proposes-replacing-arbitration-with-salaries-based-off-player-war-totals.html (https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/mlb-proposes-replacing-arbitration-with-salaries-based-off-player-war-totals.html)
Arbitration can lean a little more heavily than most modern teams do on traditional box score statistics like pitcher wins, saves, and hitters
It'll never work
Teams can manipulate that number through playing time, batting order placement, etc.
There would be grievances all over the yard.
Do the GUARDIans have a logo yet?
Guardians baseball merchandise sale postponed months after lawsuit with roller derby team
https://sports.yahoo.com/guardians-baseball-merchandise-sale-postponed-possibly-due-to-lawsuit-with-roller-derby-team-200000992.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/guardians-baseball-merchandise-sale-postponed-possibly-due-to-lawsuit-with-roller-derby-team-200000992.html)
Pay up, Cleveland.
What? No mourning for Julio?
Brought your more rings than No-mah!
Not pale enough for the Boston "faiithful", I guess.
Meanwhile, the Mets have finally found their GM in Eppler.
What could go wrong?
Meanwhile, the Mets have finally found their GM in Eppler.
What could go wrong?
We know who we expect him to hire as manager...
Correa explains the fault in Derek Jeter's play at SS.
And in doing so, ends his time in Yankee pinstripes.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/carlos-correa-takes-shot-derek-165938681.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/carlos-correa-takes-shot-derek-165938681.html)
Correa explains the fault in Derek Jeter's play at SS.
And in doing so, ends his time in Yankee pinstripes.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/carlos-correa-takes-shot-derek-165938681.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/carlos-correa-takes-shot-derek-165938681.html)
AND that Red Sox are in on Baez
I am OK with this if Mets sign Semien.
The Montreal-Tampa Rays?
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2021/11/16/the-rays-flirtation-with-montreal-could-become-a-true-romance-this-week/ (https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2021/11/16/the-rays-flirtation-with-montreal-could-become-a-true-romance-this-week/)
Mon Dieu! What would Le Grande Orange say?
The Montreal-Tampa Rays?
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2021/11/16/the-rays-flirtation-with-montreal-could-become-a-true-romance-this-week/ (https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2021/11/16/the-rays-flirtation-with-montreal-could-become-a-true-romance-this-week/)
Mon Dieu! What would Le Grande Orange say?
I could take a staub at answering that...
AND that Red Sox are in on Baez
I am OK with this if Mets sign Semien.
Baez in Boston...hmmm...
Good ballpark for his style of hitting. Takes defensive pressure off of Bogaerts.
Mets can overpay for Semien, if they want, and they would.
Are not the Mets already overpaying for a shortstop?AND that Red Sox are in on Baez
I am OK with this if Mets sign Semien.
Baez in Boston...hmmm...
Good ballpark for his style of hitting. Takes defensive pressure off of Bogaerts.
Mets can overpay for Semien, if they want, and they would.
Mets - I am happy to say - have said they will pay the current freight to compete til they can get back organizationally to developing from within.
Couple of decent guys coming up soon. Arms? Not so much.
https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411 (https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411)
It would be pretty funny if Shildt won the Manager award after having been fired. I think it will be Kapler. In the AL, the Mariner's skipper would be my bet.
If somebody other than Ohtani wins the MVP I'd be surprised. Harper looks likely to win in the NL.
I'm thinking Ray and Burnes for Cy Young.
Franco would be my ROY bet. I have no opinion in the NL contest.
I wonder when and for whom the Manager of the Year and MVP awards will be named. It seems inevitable, though I could see them giving the two MVP awards different names.
The Cy Young award has become a joke.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10018441-mlb-cy-young-award-2021-robbie-ray-corbin-burnes-named-al-nl-winners (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10018441-mlb-cy-young-award-2021-robbie-ray-corbin-burnes-named-al-nl-winners)
The Cy Young award has become a joke.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10018441-mlb-cy-young-award-2021-robbie-ray-corbin-burnes-named-al-nl-winners (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10018441-mlb-cy-young-award-2021-robbie-ray-corbin-burnes-named-al-nl-winners)
The predicted winners won.
Who would you have chosen?
zzzzzzzzz......
The Cy Young award has become a joke.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10018441-mlb-cy-young-award-2021-robbie-ray-corbin-burnes-named-al-nl-winners (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10018441-mlb-cy-young-award-2021-robbie-ray-corbin-burnes-named-al-nl-winners)
The predicted winners won.
Who would you have chosen?
Ray and NOT Burnes.
I could have lived with Scherzer, but Wheeler was the deserving Cy Young. Scherzer because he went to another team in another Division, and pitched his team into the play-offs. Wheeler pitched an MLB-high 213 1/3 innings (Burnes had 167!) , had a few shutouts (you remember what those are, don't you?), and did not have anywhere near the Bullpen that Burnes had, which meant his value to the team was much greater than Burnes's value.
Durability and endurance should matter, especially in this Bullpen era, because it takes pressure off of the pen, but according to too many voters, it apparently does not.
Burnes was in a 6 man rotation, which means he had many times when he wasn't pitching every 5th day, the way Wheeler did.
Even then, Burnes averaged less than 6 innings per start, and Wheeler average pitching into the 7th
Wheeler led all MLB pitchers in bWAR (7.6) and strikeouts (247) while finishing 2nd in fWAR (7.3), FIP (2.59) and xERA (2.78).
Burnes was 2.43 ERA vs 2.78 ERA for Wheeler, but that difference is over 54 more innings pitched!
Wheeler recorded 139 MORE outs this season than Burnes, which is more than 5 games worth of outs!
And according to Jayson Stark, if Wheeler, Burnes and Scherzer never threw a pitch after the 6th inning, Wheeler would have posted and ERA of 2.32, which is better than Scherzer's 2.60 and Burnes's 2.34.
Sorry, but the younger voters can't see the baseball field anymore, as they are too focused on blades of grass.
heh
Like with every close vote
Certainly 3 worthy candidates. This one is not to be put up to critics. Burnes got it. Move on.
https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411 (https://www.mlb.com/news/bbwaa-awards-finalists-2021?partnerId=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&qid=1026&utm_id=zh-20211109-498384-mlb-1-A&bt_ee=qJM%2FNp%2FG92%2FWKRChtXQ3B%2B8kArTVTNZp%2FYhr28EVPisNAUBkWr9DHzSlISc8IRlg&bt_ts=1636464489411)
It would be pretty funny if Shildt won the Manager award after having been fired. I think it will be Kapler. In the AL, the Mariner's skipper would be my bet.
If somebody other than Ohtani wins the MVP I'd be surprised. Harper looks likely to win in the NL.
I'm thinking Ray and Burnes for Cy Young.
Franco would be my ROY bet. I have no opinion in the NL contest.
I wonder when and for whom the Manager of the Year and MVP awards will be named. It seems inevitable, though I could see them giving the two MVP awards different names.
Got one manager and both Cy Youngs. Missed on ROY in the AL and didn't even take a shot on the NL. 3/5 or 3/6 depending on how you count the NL ROY refusal to hazard a guess.
Wonder who gets the MVP and if I can stay at at least .500.
Hof The Golden Era 2021 ballot
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-fame/golden-era/tiant-luis (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-fame/golden-era/tiant-luis)
Hof The Golden Era 2021 ballot
https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-fame/golden-era/tiant-luis (https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-fame/golden-era/tiant-luis)
Wish they'd update it to have the 2021 ballot instead of the 2015 ballot!
Curse of Chief Wahoo strikes again.
the 2022 Golden Era Class
https://baseballhall.org/discover/golden-days-era-ballot-2022 (https://baseballhall.org/discover/golden-days-era-ballot-2022)
Nine former big league players and one manager comprise the 10-name Golden Days Era ballot to be reviewed and voted upon Dec. 5 at the Baseball Winter Meetings.
Dick Allen
Ken Boyer
Gil Hodges
Jim Kaat
Roger Maris
Minnie Minoso
Danny Murtaugh
Tony Oliva
Billy Pierce
Maury Wills
are the candidates the Golden Days Era Committee will consider for Hall of Fame election for the Class of 2022.
If this doesn't work fuck it.
Screw this formatting.
Curse of Chief Wahoo strikes again.
the 2022 Golden Era Class
https://baseballhall.org/discover/golden-days-era-ballot-2022 (https://baseballhall.org/discover/golden-days-era-ballot-2022)
Nine former big league players and one manager comprise the 10-name Golden Days Era ballot to be reviewed and voted upon Dec. 5 at the Baseball Winter Meetings.
Dick Allen
Ken Boyer
Gil Hodges
Jim Kaat
Roger Maris
Minnie Minoso
Danny Murtaugh
Tony Oliva
Billy Pierce
Maury Wills
are the candidates the Golden Days Era Committee will consider for Hall of Fame election for the Class of 2022.
If this doesn't work fuck it.
Screw this formatting.
Allen, Oliva, and Kaat would be my choices.
Re: Minoso, Oliva
Well, you just know it (HOF entry) is going to become a diversity thing - as everything.
Especialy with a select group of voters, easy to see this occurring.
I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Curt Schilling
Hall of Fame 2022
Known PED users A-Rod and Ortiz on the HOF ballot.I realize you are Philadelphia uber alles but his stats are far below Alan Trammell's, and it took a committee to get him in. Rollins's biggest claim to fame is being able to stick Philly as long as he did.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot)
Jimmy Rollins on the ballot, too, and his stats indicate that he should be a first ballot HOFer.
Your take on the Dodgers allegedly having a quota on minorities would be to blame the black guy. Great take, Forrest.I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Roberto Clemente spoke to this issue of dealing with reporters and the language barrier.
Interestingly, Jackie Robinson kept Clemente from becoming a Dodger:
https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/ (https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/)
In terms of his societal impact on the game, I'd rank Clemente ahead of Robinson, in many ways.
Your take on the Dodgers allegedly having a quota on minorities would be to blame the black guy. Great take, Forrest.I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Roberto Clemente spoke to this issue of dealing with reporters and the language barrier.
Interestingly, Jackie Robinson kept Clemente from becoming a Dodger:
https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/ (https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/)
In terms of his societal impact on the game, I'd rank Clemente ahead of Robinson, in many ways.
No, I did. O'Malley and famed swimming coach Al Campania created a system limiting the number of minorities on the Dodgers and had Robinson opine on which minority player they should get rid of..Your take on the Dodgers allegedly having a quota on minorities would be to blame the black guy. Great take, Forrest.I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Roberto Clemente spoke to this issue of dealing with reporters and the language barrier.
Interestingly, Jackie Robinson kept Clemente from becoming a Dodger:
https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/ (https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/)
In terms of his societal impact on the game, I'd rank Clemente ahead of Robinson, in many ways.
Looks like you didn't read the whole piece.
Typical.
Known PED users A-Rod and Ortiz on the HOF ballot.I realize you are Philadelphia uber alles but his stats are far below Alan Trammell's, and it took a committee to get him in. Rollins's biggest claim to fame is being able to stick Philly as long as he did.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot)
Jimmy Rollins on the ballot, too, and his stats indicate that he should be a first ballot HOFer.
No, I did. O'Malley and famed swimming coach Al Campania created a system limiting the number of minorities on the Dodgers and had Robinson opine on which minority player they should get rid of..Your take on the Dodgers allegedly having a quota on minorities would be to blame the black guy. Great take, Forrest.I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Roberto Clemente spoke to this issue of dealing with reporters and the language barrier.
Interestingly, Jackie Robinson kept Clemente from becoming a Dodger:
https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/ (https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/)
In terms of his societal impact on the game, I'd rank Clemente ahead of Robinson, in many ways.
Looks like you didn't read the whole piece.
Typical.
His response was nobody. That you would highlight the involvement of Robinson in a bigoted system created by wbite men is... what is that word...
Typical.
You are right, Lou Whittaker should be in the Hall of Fame.Known PED users A-Rod and Ortiz on the HOF ballot.I realize you are Philadelphia uber alles but his stats are far below Alan Trammell's, and it took a committee to get him in. Rollins's biggest claim to fame is being able to stick Philly as long as he did.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot)
Jimmy Rollins on the ballot, too, and his stats indicate that he should be a first ballot HOFer.
Rollins' similar batters score, according to https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rolliji01.shtml, a reliable source.
Barry Larkin (861.4) *
Alan Trammell (850.4) *
Lou Whitaker (836.1)
Roberto Alomar (829.5) *
Edgar Renteria (819.6)
Ryne Sandberg (814.3) *
Jay Bell (804.3)
Ted Simmons (797.1) *
Joe Morgan (795.3) *
Ray Durham (795.2)
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
But wait, there's more:
Rollins is the Phillies all-time hits leader with 2,455 hits in 17 seasons (more than Trammell in 20 seasons) and an MVP trophy (Trammell never won one).
Rollins led the league in triples four times. Trammell had 55 career triples, Rollins had 115. He had 235 homers, or 50 more than Trammell, in those 3 fewer seasons.
He stole 46 bags as a rookie, and he led the league in plate appearances three times and at-bats four times.
Rollins earned four Gold Gloves (same as Trammell and Barry Larkin) and made three All-Star games.
Rollins has more doubles, triples and home runs than Barry Larkin, Ozzie Smith, and some guy named Trammell. He has more hits than Larkin and Trammell, and is just five hits behind Smith, but with two less seasons of play than Smith.
I realize that you only watch AL ball and maybe don't realize that the NL version is still the real game, and where Rollins played almost his entire career before ending up with the White Sox for 39 games at his career's end. Trammell DH'd numerous times throughout his career, and J-Roll only did that 7 times in his entire career.
And Rollins had a higher Fielding percentage than Trammell. And, while I do think that Trammell should have been in the HOF without the aid of a committee, Rollins's will not face that situation. Maybe he can thank Trammell and Larkin and Ozzie Smith for that, but really he's earned his way to Cooperstown.
Known PED users A-Rod and Ortiz on the HOF ballot.I realize you are Philadelphia uber alles but his stats are far below Alan Trammell's, and it took a committee to get him in. Rollins's biggest claim to fame is being able to stick Philly as long as he did.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot)
Jimmy Rollins on the ballot, too, and his stats indicate that he should be a first ballot HOFer.
Rollins' similar batters score, according to https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rolliji01.shtml, a reliable source.
Barry Larkin (861.4) *
Alan Trammell (850.4) *
Lou Whitaker (836.1)
Roberto Alomar (829.5) *
Edgar Renteria (819.6)
Ryne Sandberg (814.3) *
Jay Bell (804.3)
Ted Simmons (797.1) *
Joe Morgan (795.3) *
Ray Durham (795.2)
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
But wait, there's more:
Rollins is the Phillies all-time hits leader with 2,455 hits in 17 seasons (more than Trammell in 20 seasons) and an MVP trophy (Trammell never won one).
Rollins led the league in triples four times. Trammell had 55 career triples, Rollins had 115. He had 235 homers, or 50 more than Trammell, in those 3 fewer seasons.
He stole 46 bags as a rookie, and he led the league in plate appearances three times and at-bats four times.
Rollins earned four Gold Gloves (same as Trammell and Barry Larkin) and made three All-Star games.
Rollins has more doubles, triples and home runs than Barry Larkin, Ozzie Smith, and some guy named Trammell. He has more hits than Larkin and Trammell, and is just five hits behind Smith, but with two less seasons of play than Smith.
I realize that you only watch AL ball and maybe don't realize that the NL version is still the real game, and where Rollins played almost his entire career before ending up with the White Sox for 39 games at his career's end. Trammell DH'd numerous times throughout his career, and J-Roll only did that 7 times in his entire career.
And Rollins had a higher Fielding percentage than Trammell. And, while I do think that Trammell should have been in the HOF without the aid of a committee, Rollins's will not face that situation. Maybe he can thank Trammell and Larkin and Ozzie Smith for that, but really he's earned his way to Cooperstown.
Tbat the question was even put to him is the real issue.No, I did. O'Malley and famed swimming coach Al Campania created a system limiting the number of minorities on the Dodgers and had Robinson opine on which minority player they should get rid of..Your take on the Dodgers allegedly having a quota on minorities would be to blame the black guy. Great take, Forrest.I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Roberto Clemente spoke to this issue of dealing with reporters and the language barrier.
Interestingly, Jackie Robinson kept Clemente from becoming a Dodger:
https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/ (https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/)
In terms of his societal impact on the game, I'd rank Clemente ahead of Robinson, in many ways.
Looks like you didn't read the whole piece.
Typical.
His response was nobody. That you would highlight the involvement of Robinson in a bigoted system created by wbite men is... what is that word...
Typical.
Except the Robinson endorsed the program by how he answered the question of who should go down to make room for his fellow African-American....
Tbat the question was even put to him is the real issue.No, I did. O'Malley and famed swimming coach Al Campania created a system limiting the number of minorities on the Dodgers and had Robinson opine on which minority player they should get rid of..Your take on the Dodgers allegedly having a quota on minorities would be to blame the black guy. Great take, Forrest.I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Roberto Clemente spoke to this issue of dealing with reporters and the language barrier.
Interestingly, Jackie Robinson kept Clemente from becoming a Dodger:
https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/ (https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/)
In terms of his societal impact on the game, I'd rank Clemente ahead of Robinson, in many ways.
Looks like you didn't read the whole piece.
Typical.
His response was nobody. That you would highlight the involvement of Robinson in a bigoted system created by wbite men is... what is that word...
Typical.
Except the Robinson endorsed the program by how he answered the question of who should go down to make room for his fellow African-American....
Known PED users A-Rod and Ortiz on the HOF ballot.I realize you are Philadelphia uber alles but his stats are far below Alan Trammell's, and it took a committee to get him in. Rollins's biggest claim to fame is being able to stick Philly as long as he did.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot)
Jimmy Rollins on the ballot, too, and his stats indicate that he should be a first ballot HOFer.
Rollins' similar batters score, according to https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rolliji01.shtml, a reliable source.
Barry Larkin (861.4) *
Alan Trammell (850.4) *
Lou Whitaker (836.1)
Roberto Alomar (829.5) *
Edgar Renteria (819.6)
Ryne Sandberg (814.3) *
Jay Bell (804.3)
Ted Simmons (797.1) *
Joe Morgan (795.3) *
Ray Durham (795.2)
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
But wait, there's more:
Rollins is the Phillies all-time hits leader with 2,455 hits in 17 seasons (more than Trammell in 20 seasons) and an MVP trophy (Trammell never won one).
Rollins led the league in triples four times. Trammell had 55 career triples, Rollins had 115. He had 235 homers, or 50 more than Trammell, in those 3 fewer seasons.
He stole 46 bags as a rookie, and he led the league in plate appearances three times and at-bats four times.
Rollins earned four Gold Gloves (same as Trammell and Barry Larkin) and made three All-Star games.
Rollins has more doubles, triples and home runs than Barry Larkin, Ozzie Smith, and some guy named Trammell. He has more hits than Larkin and Trammell, and is just five hits behind Smith, but with two less seasons of play than Smith.
I realize that you only watch AL ball and maybe don't realize that the NL version is still the real game, and where Rollins played almost his entire career before ending up with the White Sox for 39 games at his career's end. Trammell DH'd numerous times throughout his career, and J-Roll only did that 7 times in his entire career.
And Rollins had a higher Fielding percentage than Trammell. And, while I do think that Trammell should have been in the HOF without the aid of a committee, Rollins's will not face that situation. Maybe he can thank Trammell and Larkin and Ozzie Smith for that, but really he's earned his way to Cooperstown.
Borderline HoF
all the decent SS were in the AL
in fact the Yankees had 2.
Known PED users A-Rod and Ortiz on the HOF ballot.I realize you are Philadelphia uber alles but his stats are far below Alan Trammell's, and it took a committee to get him in. Rollins's biggest claim to fame is being able to stick Philly as long as he did.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot)
Jimmy Rollins on the ballot, too, and his stats indicate that he should be a first ballot HOFer.
Rollins' similar batters score, according to https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rolliji01.shtml, a reliable source.
Barry Larkin (861.4) *
Alan Trammell (850.4) *
Lou Whitaker (836.1)
Roberto Alomar (829.5) *
Edgar Renteria (819.6)
Ryne Sandberg (814.3) *
Jay Bell (804.3)
Ted Simmons (797.1) *
Joe Morgan (795.3) *
Ray Durham (795.2)
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
But wait, there's more:
Rollins is the Phillies all-time hits leader with 2,455 hits in 17 seasons (more than Trammell in 20 seasons) and an MVP trophy (Trammell never won one).
Rollins led the league in triples four times. Trammell had 55 career triples, Rollins had 115. He had 235 homers, or 50 more than Trammell, in those 3 fewer seasons.
He stole 46 bags as a rookie, and he led the league in plate appearances three times and at-bats four times.
Rollins earned four Gold Gloves (same as Trammell and Barry Larkin) and made three All-Star games.
Rollins has more doubles, triples and home runs than Barry Larkin, Ozzie Smith, and some guy named Trammell. He has more hits than Larkin and Trammell, and is just five hits behind Smith, but with two less seasons of play than Smith.
I realize that you only watch AL ball and maybe don't realize that the NL version is still the real game, and where Rollins played almost his entire career before ending up with the White Sox for 39 games at his career's end. Trammell DH'd numerous times throughout his career, and J-Roll only did that 7 times in his entire career.
And Rollins had a higher Fielding percentage than Trammell. And, while I do think that Trammell should have been in the HOF without the aid of a committee, Rollins's will not face that situation. Maybe he can thank Trammell and Larkin and Ozzie Smith for that, but really he's earned his way to Cooperstown.
Borderline HoF
all the decent SS were in the AL
in fact the Yankees had 2.
"All".
Okay, Tony Kubek.
Take a look at the era in which Rollins was winning his MVP, GGs, and playing in the post-season annually: https://www.fueledbysports.com/ranking-10-best-shortstops-since-2000/
He was put in an impossible position where there was no good answer. The blame for not promoting Clemente is firmly with the people creating the quota system in the first place. Not with the guy trying to operate within it.Tbat the question was even put to him is the real issue.No, I did. O'Malley and famed swimming coach Al Campania created a system limiting the number of minorities on the Dodgers and had Robinson opine on which minority player they should get rid of..Your take on the Dodgers allegedly having a quota on minorities would be to blame the black guy. Great take, Forrest.I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Roberto Clemente spoke to this issue of dealing with reporters and the language barrier.
Interestingly, Jackie Robinson kept Clemente from becoming a Dodger:
https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/ (https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/)
In terms of his societal impact on the game, I'd rank Clemente ahead of Robinson, in many ways.
Looks like you didn't read the whole piece.
Typical.
His response was nobody. That you would highlight the involvement of Robinson in a bigoted system created by wbite men is... what is that word...
Typical.
Except the Robinson endorsed the program by how he answered the question of who should go down to make room for his fellow African-American....
Perhaps, but in the end, he threw Clemente off the team. If he had said, yes, keep him, this guy's a tremendous talent and shouldn't that be all that we consider, we'd know the real value of Mr. Robinson. Instead, he went along to get along it seems.
It depends on what you value.Was not the fault of Omar that Jose Useless Pile of Horse Excrement Mesa lost confidence and threw his third best pitch at the single most important point of his career. Was not Omar shaking off Sandy Alomar calling for the heater.
I like winning.
Known PED users A-Rod and Ortiz on the HOF ballot.I realize you are Philadelphia uber alles but his stats are far below Alan Trammell's, and it took a committee to get him in. Rollins's biggest claim to fame is being able to stick Philly as long as he did.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32691595/david-ortiz-alex-rodriguez-13-first-rs-hall-fame-ballot)
Jimmy Rollins on the ballot, too, and his stats indicate that he should be a first ballot HOFer.
Interesting that there are 2 players in the top 10 on this all-time list, and the BBWAA will keep them out of the HOF:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_career.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_career.shtml)
Your take on the Dodgers allegedly having a quota on minorities would be to blame the black guy. Great take, Forrest.I wonder how many white BBWAA writers WBW who could not communicate with Latin American players or didn't give a fuck if they could, never gave them the respect or credit they deserved, including HoF recognition.
Who would be the poster child for this? Minnie Minoso? Really?
Roberto Clemente spoke to this issue of dealing with reporters and the language barrier.
Interestingly, Jackie Robinson kept Clemente from becoming a Dodger:
https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/ (https://remezcla.com/sports/the-racist-history-behind-roberto-clementes-transition-from-the-dodgers-to-the-pirates/)
In terms of his societal impact on the game, I'd rank Clemente ahead of Robinson, in many ways.
Looks like you didn't read the whole piece.
Typical.
JBJ back to the Sox. Renfroe out.
Bradley deal:
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/jackie-bradley-jr-trade-making-sense-red-soxs-surprising-move?cid=sm_npd_rsn_bos_fb_mn&fbclid=IwAR05EB1-p-e0mXJ1qTd6FwDQeiOVSsDnmSP5p-ZDEHdmE6zBDIYK2Mv0s9M
Mets hire Showalter.
Old guys as managers are in vogue, which seems like ballast for this hot air balloon era of analytics.
Look out Mets got their Joey
Lachemans
Look out Mets got their Joey
If Joey ever ends up managing, will the Coras be the first brothers to both manage?!
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952518-in-or-out-voting-on-active-mlb-players-hall-of-fame-resumes
Agree? Disagree?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952518-in-or-out-voting-on-active-mlb-players-hall-of-fame-resumes
Agree? Disagree?
Sure.
What's the question exactly?
The author doesnt really offer specific judgment. Just categorizes.
So, this guy, who essentially only played a 1/2 a game each night, and who actually had a positive test for PEDs can get in the HALL, but the other guys, who never tested positive can't because they're suspected of using PEDs. Not to mention that he hung with known drug dealers back in the DR. Character and integrity? They only count some times.
Sure.
That makes sense.
And the Astros have a "championship".
Bud Selig is in. But Sosa, Bonds, and Clemens?
Fuck the HOF voters.
Fuck Cooperstown, the museum, MLB.
And fuck anyone who would support their votes and their abject subjectivity.
Tested positive for PEDs.
Tested positive for PEDs.
And this is the line you use that proves that you dope more than Ortiz and I combined.
Wondering....
do you think Ortiz was STILL doing steroids his last 4 years, age 37-40? After being suspected and having to deny it, he STILL proceeded to "cheat"?
1st ballot HoFer
not many of those
joins the Hall among the elite of the elite
quite an honor for Big Papi.
1st ballot HoFer
not many of those
joins the Hall among the elite of the elite
quite an honor for Big Papi.
And, as you know in your heart of hearts, and honor that is undeserved.
Wondering....
do you think Ortiz was STILL doing steroids his last 4 years, age 37-40? After being suspected and having to deny it, he STILL proceeded to "cheat"?
What difference does it make? We know he cheated, and it's documented. Bonds and Clemens never failed a test, but they aren't going to get in, and Ortiz is.
However, Ortiz was exonerated in 2016 by Manfred, who said: "Even if your name was on that list (of 104) it's entirely possible that you were not a positive," adding that he felt it would be unfair for Hall-of-Fame voters to use that positive test against Ortiz.
1st ballot HoFer
not many of those
joins the Hall among the elite of the elite
quite an honor for Big Papi.
And, as you know in your heart of hearts, and honor that is undeserved.
David Ortiz is wholly deserving the honor he was bestowed.
I could not be happier in my heart of hearts.
That you mocked him and his fans for close to 20 years and could not understand his prominence, dominance and almost larger than life presence in MLB, speaks to your biases and ignorance. If Ortiz didn't belong in the Hall, almost no one does.
Well maybe except Jamie Moyer.
HEH
That Ortiz joins a relatively small group of 1st ballot entrants to the Hall, recognized by the gate keepers as no-doubters, the best of the best, is wholly deserved.
Ortiz earned the honor.
Your recognition is not required.
Wondering....
do you think Ortiz was STILL doing steroids his last 4 years, age 37-40? After being suspected and having to deny it, he STILL proceeded to "cheat"?
What difference does it make? We know he cheated, and it's documented. Bonds and Clemens never failed a test, but they aren't going to get in, and Ortiz is.
No, we don't know Ortiz cheated and no matter how often you repeat it, we still won't.
We know his name was on a list and that not everybody on the list was guilty.
Barry Bonds did test positive, but prior to MLB's testing program.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3112982
As for Clemens, "We had DNA evidence in the Clemens case, with Clemens' DNA and an anabolic steroid within a needle that was used to inject him," said Novitzky.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianred/2020/12/03/former-feds-say-barry-bonds-and-roger-clemens-steroid-evidence-indisputable
Ortiz? He, too, was tested prior to the MLB testing program. But there is a difference between his situation and Bond's. Bond's material was seized directly from Balco. the list Oeriz was listed on is no such proof:QuoteHowever, Ortiz was exonerated in 2016 by Manfred, who said: "Even if your name was on that list (of 104) it's entirely possible that you were not a positive," adding that he felt it would be unfair for Hall-of-Fame voters to use that positive test against Ortiz.
Whether you are disingenuous or simply forgetful, the cases against Clemens and Bonds are far stronger than the case against Ortiz as far as steroids are concerned.
Bonds and Clemens belong in the Hall, IMO. I don't think it is even close. Rose, too. (Shoeless Joe, as well.)
But so does Ortiz.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/ny-madden-hall-of-fame-20220126-frzjwhxhxjcffpjyu65bm4mlum-story.html
Wondering....
do you think Ortiz was STILL doing steroids his last 4 years, age 37-40? After being suspected and having to deny it, he STILL proceeded to "cheat"?
What difference does it make? We know he cheated, and it's documented. Bonds and Clemens never failed a test, but they aren't going to get in, and Ortiz is.
No, we don't know Ortiz cheated and no matter how often you repeat it, we still won't.
We know his name was on a list and that not everybody on the list was guilty.
Barry Bonds did test positive, but prior to MLB's testing program.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3112982
As for Clemens, "We had DNA evidence in the Clemens case, with Clemens' DNA and an anabolic steroid within a needle that was used to inject him," said Novitzky.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianred/2020/12/03/former-feds-say-barry-bonds-and-roger-clemens-steroid-evidence-indisputable
Ortiz? He, too, was tested prior to the MLB testing program. But there is a difference between his situation and Bond's. Bond's material was seized directly from Balco. the list Oeriz was listed on is no such proof:QuoteHowever, Ortiz was exonerated in 2016 by Manfred, who said: "Even if your name was on that list (of 104) it's entirely possible that you were not a positive," adding that he felt it would be unfair for Hall-of-Fame voters to use that positive test against Ortiz.
Whether you are disingenuous or simply forgetful, the cases against Clemens and Bonds are far stronger than the case against Ortiz as far as steroids are concerned.
Bonds and Clemens belong in the Hall, IMO. I don't think it is even close. Rose, too. (Shoeless Joe, as well.)
But so does Ortiz.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/ny-madden-hall-of-fame-20220126-frzjwhxhxjcffpjyu65bm4mlum-story.html
If they're not in, he shouldn't be.
That's how many baseball fans and some players feel.
1st ballot HoFer
not many of those
joins the Hall among the elite of the elite
quite an honor for Big Papi.
And, as you know in your heart of hearts, and honor that is undeserved.
David Ortiz is wholly deserving the honor he was bestowed.
I could not be happier in my heart of hearts.
That you mocked him and his fans for close to 20 years and could not understand his prominence, dominance and almost larger than life presence in MLB, speaks to your biases and ignorance. If Ortiz didn't belong in the Hall, almost no one does.
Well maybe except Jamie Moyer.
HEH
That Ortiz joins a relatively small group of 1st ballot entrants to the Hall, recognized by the gate keepers as no-doubters, the best of the best, is wholly deserved.
Ortiz earned the honor.
Your recognition is not required.
And...as always, YOU missed the point.
If he's in, the others were locks.
Hall of Bullshit.
Figured you'd sign off on that.
If you listen to the man himself - and if you know anything at all about baseball training and the development of competitive greatness, you would know it was not just medicinal help with OrtizSo you are saying he also corked his bats?
I suppose you think it was just the change in ball parks that had Ortiz going from 11.6 homer average in 5 seasons in Minnesota to 41.6 homer average in first 5 seasons in Boston.Ortiz had roughly the same number of games and at bats in his last season with the Twins as he did in his first season with Boston - 3 fewer games, about 40 fewer plate appearances - and had 50% more home runs and a .092 jump in slugging and an over .100 jump in OPS. He would also not be the first person to hit his stride at 27.
Stoppppp...
If you listen to the man himself - and if you know anything at all about baseball training and the development of competitive greatness, you would know it was not just medicinal help with Ortiz.
And....
if you really have to use numbers, try per 162 games at least if not per 500 plate appearances.
And if Rob Manfred is your moral arbiter, you've got no case at all.
He is the only shortstop in the history of the game to reach at least 200 HRs and 400 SBs. He also finished with 33 more homers and 91 more stolen bases than Hall of Fame shortstop Barry Larkin (and he won more Gold Gloves, too).
Name him.
Rollins was better than Larkin?
Ham -
Can you give me a projected Phils lineup, rotation, etc for this season?
Maybe we can all submit ours (I will do Mets) and create some conversation.
April 15th the latest
April 15th the latest
Ham -
Can you give me a projected Phils lineup, rotation, etc for this season?
Maybe we can all submit ours (I will do Mets) and create some conversation.
Could still be a COVID death
You don't think COVID has led to any suicides?
A Major League Baseball lawyer said in federal court Friday that minor league players should not be paid during spring training, because they should be considered trainees. The argument was part of a broader push by MLB to toss an eight-year-old lawsuit brought by Aaron Senne and other minor leaguers over their compensation.
"It is the players that obtain the greater benefit from the training opportunities that they are afforded than the clubs, who actually just incur the cost of having to provide that training," said Elise Bloom of Proskauer Rose, a firm that is also advising MLB in its lockout of major league players. "During the training season, the players are not employees, and would not be subject to either the Fair Labor Standards Act or any state minimum wage act."
The profit is always going to be in the team's value.
The profit is always going to be in the team's value.
What does that mean?
Pretty simple. Not surprised you do not understand - valuation of the franchise is the key over operating revenue.
Pretty simple. Not surprised you do not understand - valuation of the franchise is the key over operating revenue.
Manfred said the league and union have not made plans for future negotiations and that players won't be paid for missed games.
"My deepest hope is we get an agreement quickly," Manfred said. "I'm really disappointed we didn't make an agreement."
Josh would be better served to actually hear the entire Manfred statement before commenting.
Like the part about not ever having a "take it or leave it" stance.
There has been no indication that talks will not continue. Just likely at least a day break since the players flew out of town.
Still optimistic but sucks to not have a 162.
"Manfred yanked two more series of games off the schedule. The owners have established a new "you must do this or we won't negotiate on anything else.' And the players are not amused."
Thats wht you said last time - before I told you that talks would surely resume.
Heh
But stick to your guns, union guy.
April 15th the latest
April 15th the latest
I stand corrected.
Phillies opening day is...April 8, 3:05pm start against the A's. DH's for both teams, bigger bases, and restrictions on how to employ the defense."Please, someone, let me out of this coffin!"
What would Connie Mack say?
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2317601/baseballs-new-cba-is-already-failing-the-spirit-of-competition (https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2317601/baseballs-new-cba-is-already-failing-the-spirit-of-competition)
The CBA didn't fix a major problem. Teams like the Reds.
Kyle Schwarber comes to Philly: https://www.mlb.com/news/kyle-schwarber-deal-with-phillies (https://www.mlb.com/news/kyle-schwarber-deal-with-phillies)
Kyle Schwarber comes to Philly: https://www.mlb.com/news/kyle-schwarber-deal-with-phillies (https://www.mlb.com/news/kyle-schwarber-deal-with-phillies)
Correa is a Twin!Where the hell did they get the money?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33543369/sources-carlos-correa-minnesota-twins-agree-3-year-1053-million-deal-opt-outs (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33543369/sources-carlos-correa-minnesota-twins-agree-3-year-1053-million-deal-opt-outs)
Pleasant surprise for Boston. Story joins the fold and will play 2B.
Pleasant surprise for Boston. Story joins the fold and will play 2B.
Bernie Sanders is trying to save baseball: https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2022/3/23/22992836/bernie-sanders-mlb-antitrust-monopoly-explained (https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2022/3/23/22992836/bernie-sanders-mlb-antitrust-monopoly-explained)
Rich Hill did nothing to encourage the Red Sox to put him in the 2022 rotation.
I imagine that means he'll be one of our starters.
Not really the big story there, Bosoxer.
Not really the big story there, Bosoxer.
Yesterday's RS game felt like a squander.
Today's game so far simply makes me want to tell the closed captioning typist, "His name is Eck, not Nick!"
Guardians are averaging 5 rums a game! This year is going to be... wait, I think I am missing a decimal point....
Steve Kwan is hitting .800 with a 1.857 OPS. If he keeps that up all year, I predict he will be the AL Rookie of the Year!
Out source formatting to Red, did you?Steve Kwan is hitting .800 with a 1.857 OPS. If he keeps that up all year, I predict he will be the AL Rookie of the Year!
Or even if he only does half as well!
"Jerry - YOU are my kwan"The biggest fear with Kwan, organizationally, is that his lack of extra base power may make pitchers pound the strike zone rather than locate in the zone, and will result in fewer walks. He has a real good eye for the strike zone. I like him. With him and Straw, that gives us a good 2/3 of a defensive outfield, although not a lot of pop. Maybe can get away with Naylor or even Reyes out there. There is talk of moving Rosario out there full time, but that is a 25 home run outfield, total.
.469 this spring
.328 at 2 levels last year
I am a believer
Passes my runs produced (R + RBI - HR) test - 215 in 217 minor league games
Out source formatting to Red, did you?Steve Kwan is hitting .800 with a 1.857 OPS. If he keeps that up all year, I predict he will be the AL Rookie of the Year!
Or even if he only does half as well!
Kwan is most likely a slightly shorter Brett Gardner, max. But as Peter Brand would note, his biggest tool has been, he gets on base.
Anyway - thank for alerting me to this guy. I had never heard of him. I guess he played with Madrigal (more heralded, now with Cubs) at OSU. I think they won a national title.The legend continues. Kwan is the first player ever to reach base at least.three times in each of his first four games - two walks and a triple.
There is no joy in Mudville
Steven Kwan has struck out.
For the first time this year. He also had his first swing and miss.
Best start for a Cleveland rookie since Gomer Hodges batted 4000.There is no joy in Mudville
Steven Kwan has struck out.
For the first time this year. He also had his first swing and miss.
That he went this long is just stunning.
Who is Triston McKenzie and why should I care? (just took over a dead team, making cuts/saves).Best arm among the G starters. Has control issues. Worth a flyer due to his upside. I am holding him for now.
Thanks.
I dont think it got up and running this year . Figured 20 years was a good run - glad we got that far - maybe I missed an invite - havent checked yahoo mail in a while - but likely it just fizzled out. You hadnt heard anything right?it is up and running and you auto drafted a team. There may be three or four dead teams, though.
Jemelle Hill?
Ha!
Pass.
In their entire fabled history, the Cleveland Guardians have never lost a game when they have scored more than two runs. True fact.
The Jerry Remy memorial tonight was a tear-jerker.
And Houck is Kyrie
Heh.
Still - you need to be equally critical - if being fair
As you were as well with Rodgers
Of course I see the difference.
Are you backtracking, saying you would have been OK with AR and a no-vax had he been truthful?
And that if Kyrie were a scrubbini that it would be OK, but stars only need the shot?
Catch us up with your thinking if you want ti discuss it. Much easier if you just criticize Houck, stay consistent. Isnt Houck a POTENTIAL KILLER like all those that you dislike that arent vaxxed?
Yankees fans appeared to be taunting Kwan as he was being examined by the training staff. Mercado and Myles Straw came to his defense.
So the Guardians started it...
Classy NYY fans.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10033665-guardians-oscar-mercado-yankees-fans-must-be-held-accountable-after-throwing-cans
I am sure Josh has a catchy answer for this (with Bank absent)
RED SOX - beautiful move not re-signing Schwarber
heh
I am sure Josh has a catchy answer for this (with Bank absent)
RED SOX - beautiful move not re-signing Schwarber
heh
Catchy?
More like hitty.
I lamented the failure to resign Schwarber in these pages.
I also lamented the trade of Renfroe for JBJ, commenting that the prospects better be damned good.
And for that matter, I bitched about Cordero for Benintendi and that trade just looks stupider every time Cordero appears, whether at bat or in the field, though I will grant that at 1 hit in 7 at bats, his production dwarfs Travis Shaw's.
I am sure Josh has a catchy answer for this (with Bank absent)
RED SOX - beautiful move not re-signing Schwarber
heh
Catchy?
More like hitty.
I lamented the failure to resign Schwarber in these pages.
I also lamented the trade of Renfroe for JBJ, commenting that the prospects better be damned good.
And for that matter, I bitched about Cordero for Benintendi and that trade just looks stupider every time Cordero appears, whether at bat or in the field, though I will grant that at 1 hit in 7 at bats, his production dwarfs Travis Shaw's.
Beni
Royals player of the month for April
Lets go!!!!
Mets fans already planning the parade route. Maybe they need reminding that it's May 2.
I lamented the failure to resign Schwarber in these pages.
Well done
Sometimes we do agree
JD problem I guess - one would need to play outfield
Red Sox with a solid win over the Braves.
Philly gets Yu'd
Pete eats
Phils drop another game to Mets
Philly gets Yu'd
Pete eats
Phils drop another game to Mets
Phillies got Umped.
Dude lost the K-Zone.
Not worred about the Mets.
Of course not. You are vying for the wild card.
Philly gets Yu'd
Pete eats
Phils drop another game to Mets
Phillies got Umped.
Dude lost the K-Zone.
Not worred about the Mets.
Funny how you always mock those who complain that the officials cost them the game, but turn to that device whenever it's convenient.
Philly gets Yu'd
Pete eats
Phils drop another game to Mets
Phillies got Umped.
Dude lost the K-Zone.
Not worred about the Mets.
Funny how you always mock those who complain that the officials cost them the game, but turn to that device whenever it's convenient.
Guess you aren't paying attention.
No surprise, there.
Philly gets Yu'd
Pete eats
Phils drop another game to Mets
Phillies got Umped.
Dude lost the K-Zone.
Not worred about the Mets.
Funny how you always mock those who complain that the officials cost them the game, but turn to that device whenever it's convenient.
Guess you aren't paying attention.
No surprise, there.
I'm supposed to go hunting for some Phillies game in which you have concluded that at some part of it the Phillies were done in by an unfair umpire who only screwed your team.
You're pretty funny, sometimes, Ham.
But I plead totally guilty of not having seen the incident(s?) to which you refer. You, OTOH, I have paid attention to and I stand by what I said.
Philly gets Yu'd
Pete eats
Phils drop another game to Mets
Phillies got Umped.
Dude lost the K-Zone.
Not worred about the Mets.
Funny how you always mock those who complain that the officials cost them the game, but turn to that device whenever it's convenient.
Guess you aren't paying attention.
No surprise, there.
I'm supposed to go hunting for some Phillies game in which you have concluded that at some part of it the Phillies were done in by an unfair umpire who only screwed your team.
You're pretty funny, sometimes, Ham.
But I plead totally guilty of not having seen the incident(s?) to which you refer. You, OTOH, I have paid attention to and I stand by what I said.
Good you admit to comment out of abject ignorance. Standing by your comments is no surprise as you've been clear about your biases for many years.
Not sure whose night is worse so far (top of the second), Rich Hill's or Kike Hernandez'.
Unimpressive start to this one.
Havent been following the vaccination news but this weekend Max Kepler and THREE relief pitchers are missing the trip to Toronto
I guess its only a big deal when Kyrie Irving does it
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/03/sport/joe-girardi-philadelphia-phillies-manager-fired/index.html
Goodbye, Joe Girardi.
I hope the Phillies' management does not expect this change to bring a substantial change in their fortunes this year.
Heh
Yeah Joey's boys are a blast to be with right now
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10037992-joe-maddon-fired-as-angels-manager-after-12-straight-losses
First Joe Girardi, then Joe Maddon.
No more Joes to be fired.
Who else is on the hot seat?!
(No, Kid, "Joey" Cora is not a Joe, except to you.)
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10037992-joe-maddon-fired-as-angels-manager-after-12-straight-losses
First Joe Girardi, then Joe Maddon.
No more Joes to be fired.
Who else is on the hot seat?!
(No, Kid, "Joey" Cora is not a Joe, except to you.)
As with the Phillies, so with the Angels (so far). They seem more engaged to this point.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10037992-joe-maddon-fired-as-angels-manager-after-12-straight-losses
First Joe Girardi, then Joe Maddon.
No more Joes to be fired.
Who else is on the hot seat?!
(No, Kid, "Joey" Cora is not a Joe, except to you.)
Dalbec at 3rd, Vasquez at 1st.
1-0 after 8 innings, though this was not the tightly pitched game of two nights ago.
Good baseball for those not obsessed with tons of homers.
Turns out the Phillies were only mostly dead. That whole "need a new voice" thing working so far.
Turns out the Phillies were only mostly dead. That whole "need a new voice" thing working so far.
It helped that they were playing the Angels at the beginning of the new voice!
Turns out the Phillies were only mostly dead. That whole "need a new voice" thing working so far.
It helped that they were playing the Angels at the beginning of the new voice!
Did it help when they got to Hader?
Of course, time will tell. No one is taking a bow, yet.
But, admit it Hader was a BIG shot in the arm. Team's can get dangerous, when think they can beat anyone, especially a team that is using its bench as much as this team has had to do.
Entering June:
@Braves
: 23-27
@Phillies
: 21-29
June:
Braves: 10-0
Phillies: 9-0
This is the first time two MLB teams each had losing records 50+ games into a season and then went on simultaneous 9+ game winning streaks since the Pirates and Reds did so in 1899.
Biting batsmen is pretty bad.
Who?
Good win by the Guardians in LA. 10th inning ghost runner scored for them, but not for the Dodgers,
This summer, Ramirez's son, Manny Jr., is playing for the Brockton Rox, a collegiate summer baseball team. Also on the team? Ortiz's son, D'Angelo Ortiz; Pedro Martinez Jr.; Gary Sheffield's son, Jaden Sheffield; and Keith Foulke's son, Kade Foulke.(courtesy of MLB.com)
Ortiz and Ramirez (infielders) may very well get drafted.Manny Ramirez was a shortstop when he was drafted.
Ortiz and Ramirez (infielders) may very well get drafted. Not sure of Foulke, who is a lefthanded pitcher
Looks like a great league - thanks
Ortiz and Ramirez (infielders) may very well get drafted. Not sure of Foulke, who is a lefthanded pitcher
Looks like a great league - thanks
My pleasure.
I'm pretty excited about the chance to go watch them - today I am missing the Sea Unicorns. But I could drive 2.5-3 hours to see almost all of these teams!
For some reason, I had not realized that we have 4 teams in this league playing this summer, with another so close, though in NH.
The back and forth in the Twins/Guardians game tonight was quite something.We be hot.
Guardians-Twins shaping up to be the race of the summer? Nice surprise.
Guardians-Twins shaping up to be the race of the summer? Nice surprise.I have no idea why anyone throws a strike to Jose Ramirez when anything is on the line. There are some kids producing that I think will taper off, but our bull pen has been great, and it is starting to look like the Lindor trade.was the best deal we have made with the Mets since we fleeced them on the Harry Chiti trade. And I still love Frankie Baseball.
Guardians-Twins shaping up to be the race of the summer? Nice surprise.
I'm expecting the White Sox to be in the mix for most of the summer, as well. I don't think they will be able to pull away from the other two.
Guardians-Twins shaping up to be the race of the summer? Nice surprise.
I'm expecting the White Sox to be in the mix for most of the summer, as well. I don't think they will be able to pull away from the other two.
Yeah - you had the Angels as well. And the Yanks 4th in division, no?
heh
Guardians-Twins shaping up to be the race of the summer? Nice surprise.
I'm expecting the White Sox to be in the mix for most of the summer, as well. I don't think they will be able to pull away from the other two.
Yeah - you had the Angels as well. And the Yanks 4th in division, no?
heh
Heh
Not second in the AL
Exactly.
Judge has said that he does not believe his contract situation has impacted his play.
"I'm not really motivated by that kind of stuff," Judge said.
Sure. We'll take him. Room for a few more 30 mil plus guys....
Tense finish to the 1-0 Phillies-Padres game. Rogers filled the bases with Phillies before retiring Schwarber to end the game.
Today's Astros at Yankees is looking pretty good,56 innings in.
Today's Astros at Yankees is looking pretty good,56 innings in.
Very exciting to watch today's no-no of the Yankees.
Today's Astros at Yankees is looking pretty good,56 innings in.
Very exciting to watch today's no-no of the Yankees.
first comment on the twitter feed post of Astros: "Combined no hitter doesn
"Loose Cannon" Pablo
@ilovemypastime
Replying to
@astros
and
@budweiserusa
Doesn't count . Combined. "
Today's Astros at Yankees is looking pretty good,56 innings in.
Very exciting to watch today's no-no of the Yankees.
"70 years ago Saturday, more than 50,000 packed the Polo Grounds to watch
the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants play each other in a six-inning contest
to raise money for war bonds. Each team played successive innings
against the other two teams, then sits out an inning. The final score is
Dodgers 5, Yankees 1, Giants 0."
Sure. We'll take him. Room for a few more 30 mil plus guys....
So, back to being a Mets fan, I see. Hard to keep up with your laundry changes each season, kid.
Sure. We'll take him. Room for a few more 30 mil plus guys....
So, back to being a Mets fan, I see. Hard to keep up with your laundry changes each season, kid.
Yeah, sure, man - "back to..."
It's documented - I bet Mets to win NL - at 5-1 odds.
It feels like deja vu, all over again.
The Astros @ Yankees game is worth turning on the tube or radio for, though Houston has a 3-0 lead. It's going into the6th7th inning with the same situation for the home team as yesterday.
Sure. We'll take him. Room for a few more 30 mil plus guys....
So, back to being a Mets fan, I see. Hard to keep up with your laundry changes each season, kid.
Yeah, sure, man - "back to..."
It's documented - I bet Mets to win NL - at 5-1 odds.
Your odds improved last night, after Bryce Harper's thumb was broken by Blake Snell's fastball.
The Angels-Mariners brawl took 17 minutes to end.
But I still wonder at the bullpens needing to run all the way in before joining a melee.
The Angels-Mariners brawl took 17 minutes to end.
But I still wonder at the bullpens needing to run all the way in before joining a melee.
Well, they threw at Trout's head the night before. The Mariners set themselves up for that one.
That's baseball.
JOEY screws the poochI donut know.
Why the helll would he let Tyler Danish start the ninth inning?
JOEY screws the pooch
Why the helll would he let Tyler Danish start the ninth inning?
Four outs in an inning. Wait, what? Nationals collide with surreal rules of the game.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/06/30/nationals-pirates-controversial-play/
RS blew a game today. Up 4 and lose to the Cubbies in Wrigleyville.
Mets got their 50th win, yesterday. Parade being planned in Queens.
We will wait and see how those plans go.
heh
gm is an idiot i guess
heh
gm is an idiot i guess
Chaim Bloom has made some bonehead deals, IMO, as well as some good ones.
The two outfielder trades do not look good, IMHO.
heh
gm is an idiot i guess
Chaim Bloom has made some bonehead deals, IMO, as well as some good ones.
The two outfielder trades do not look good, IMHO.
Bloom's not the GM
But you are right about the trades.
SIGNINGS and "let gos" also not looking too good.
But deals are generated, deals that Bloom would know nothing of - thus OHalloran is responsible, if not giving final stamp.
I have no doubt Betts deal was Bloom-led once the conversation got started.
Yes. I recall you not wanting JBJ back.
Question I guess is what does BLOOM (as you feel he is doing the real work) do now - at 45-37 and off a divisional series run?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/08/sport/jurickson-profar-san-diego-padres-collapse-spt-intl/index.html
Kyle Schwarber entered the weekend leading the National League in home runs thanks to a run of nine bombs in the last 14 games.
Kyle Schwarber entered the weekend leading the National League in home runs thanks to a run of nine bombs in the last 14 games.
When he's hot he's on fire.
Phils have 27 innings without allowing a Cardinals run, as they won 4-0 last Sunday, 2-0, yesterday, and 1-0 today. Wheeler pitched those first 2 games, but today it was Kyle Gibson who pitched 7 SO innings.
Alec is the Bohm, as he homered twice last night, and got the the sac fly RBI today, accounting for all the runs in this series, so far.
A rarity these days --> a Red Sox walk off over the Yankees in extra innings after falling behind by 2 in the top of the 10th!
A rarity these days --> a Red Sox walk off over the Yankees in extra innings after falling behind by 2 in the top of the 10th!Considering the specificity, very definitely a rarity.
A rarity these days --> a Red Sox walk off over the Yankees in extra innings after falling behind by 2 in the top of the 10th!Considering the specificity, very definitely a rarity.
A rarity these days --> a Red Sox walk off over the Yankees in extra innings after falling behind by 2 in the top of the 10th!
Yankees fans upset. Worried they won't win in October. Blame Joey Gallo.
Andres Giminez is an All Star. Frankie Lindor has Carlosbaegraed.
FTR I still love Frankie. I do not hold his failure to be Jose Ramirez against him. I hope his bat comes back around, but I assume his D is as magical as ever.Andres Giminez is an All Star. Frankie Lindor has Carlosbaegraed.
Nice.
Braves-Mets tonight. Max v Max.
But still not sleeping on Phils.
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FNBCSPhilly%2Fstatus%2F1546687346678145025&widget=Tweet
JT a bad teammate
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FNBCSPhilly%2Fstatus%2F1546687346678145025&widget=Tweet
JT a bad teammate
That's your logic?
Pretty weak sauce. I think we can say Jacob De Grom is a horrible teammate then, since he doesn't keep himself on the field throughout the seasons.
4/7/22 Shoulder
7/17/21 Forearm
7/15/21 Forearm
6/16/21 Shoulder
6/11/21 Elbow
5/9/21 Right side
5/4/21 Side
9/16/20 Hamstring
8/14/20 Neck
7/15/20 Back Tightness
6/1/19 Hip
5/3/18 Hyperextended right elbow
Weak-ass teammate.
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FNBCSPhilly%2Fstatus%2F1546687346678145025&widget=Tweet
JT a bad teammate
That's your logic?
Pretty weak sauce. I think we can say Jacob De Grom is a horrible teammate then, since he doesn't keep himself on the field throughout the seasons.
4/7/22 Shoulder
7/17/21 Forearm
7/15/21 Forearm
6/16/21 Shoulder
6/11/21 Elbow
5/9/21 Right side
5/4/21 Side
9/16/20 Hamstring
8/14/20 Neck
7/15/20 Back Tightness
6/1/19 Hip
5/3/18 Hyperextended right elbow
Weak-ass teammate.
Huge difference between choosing not to get vaccinated and having injuries.
He has the antibodies. It's Canada's rules he's opposed to. Medically, he should be cleared.
Like Kyrie
Boston Bad News Bears
Boston Bad News Bears
Joey's creation
Looking like Boston, Seattle, Cleveland, Chicago for the last AL spot.
Phil's K'd 12x last night, but still beat the best pitcher in baseball, 2-1.
Win again.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/home-run-derby-controversy-soto-schwarber-sports-betting?dicbo=v2-7d0d9d5afaf606a60c13160303b22a7c
Best pitcher in post Schilling/Pedro era.
Jesus, even Sesame Street characters are racist in Philadelphia.
https://www.salon.com/2022/07/19/sesame-place-responds-to-accusations-of-against-black-children/
Pretty close game in Boston.
Pretty close game in Boston.
I stopped watching at 10-0.
Pretty close game in Boston.Looks like you struggled trying to stop that Argonauts offense. And a field goal and a couple of rouges is a pretty poor offensive display.
Oh my.
Cora gone soon?
Oh my.
Cora gone soon?
Given the injuries, it seems unlikely.
And it wasn't his decisions that gave us a first base platoon of Dalbec and Cordero. Nor his fault that we have JBJ in the outfield instead of Renfroe and/or Benintendi.
But one never knows.
Oh my.
Cora gone soon?
Given the injuries, it seems unlikely.
And it wasn't his decisions that gave us a first base platoon of Dalbec and Cordero. Nor his fault that we have JBJ in the outfield instead of Renfroe and/or Benintendi.
But one never knows.
The Boone Watch, however, has started in NY, as it seems A-Aron is totally responsible for losing to Dusty Baker. Joe from Staten Island knows how to fill out that line-up card better than the Y's manager.
Oh my.
Cora gone soon?
Given the injuries, it seems unlikely.
And it wasn't his decisions that gave us a first base platoon of Dalbec and Cordero. Nor his fault that we have JBJ in the outfield instead of Renfroe and/or Benintendi.
But one never knows.
The Boone Watch, however, has started in NY, as it seems A-Aron is totally responsible for losing to Dusty Baker. Joe from Staten Island knows how to fill out that line-up card better than the Y's manager.
Boone Watch will start as soon as they loose [/i]any[/i] playoff series, with the possible exception of the World Series.
Oh my.
Cora gone soon?
Given the injuries, it seems unlikely.
And it wasn't his decisions that gave us a first base platoon of Dalbec and Cordero. Nor his fault that we have JBJ in the outfield instead of Renfroe and/or Benintendi.
But one never knows.
The Boone Watch, however, has started in NY, as it seems A-Aron is totally responsible for losing to Dusty Baker. Joe from Staten Island knows how to fill out that line-up card better than the Y's manager.
Boone Watch will start as soon as they loose [/i]any[/i] playoff series, with the possible exception of the World Series.
Nope. They're already calling for his head.
Congratulations to David Ortiz on his day of enshrinement in baseball's Hall of Fame.
An honor well deserved for the outsized slugger and personality who was magnificent when the stakes were highest.
The man was a lot of fun to watch.
Oh my.
Cora gone soon?
Given the injuries, it seems unlikely.
And it wasn't his decisions that gave us a first base platoon of Dalbec and Cordero. Nor his fault that we have JBJ in the outfield instead of Renfroe and/or Benintendi.
But one never knows.
The Boone Watch, however, has started in NY, as it seems A-Aron is totally responsible for losing to Dusty Baker. Joe from Staten Island knows how to fill out that line-up card better than the Y's manager.
Boone Watch will start as soon as they lose any playoff series, with the possible exception of the World Series.
Oh my.
Cora gone soon?
Given the injuries, it seems unlikely.
And it wasn't his decisions that gave us a first base platoon of Dalbec and Cordero. Nor his fault that we have JBJ in the outfield instead of Renfroe and/or Benintendi.
But one never knows.
Whitlock in, JBJ homers, comeback is on.
The Red Sox can win against everybody but the AL East.Sure. Starting tonight they can begin losing games outside the division.
+18 outside the division, -17 inside the division.
Unfortunately, they have more games remaining within the division. Something better change!
The Red Sox can win against everybody but the AL East.Sure. Starting tonight they can begin losing games outside the division.
+18 outside the division, -17 inside the division.
Unfortunately, they have more games remaining within the division. Something better change!
It is what I have. I would feel better if today was not bull pen day.The Red Sox can win against everybody but the AL East.Sure. Starting tonight they can begin losing games outside the division.
+18 outside the division, -17 inside the division.
Unfortunately, they have more games remaining within the division. Something better change!
You can hope.
It is what I have. I would feel better if today was not bull pen day.The Red Sox can win against everybody but the AL East.Sure. Starting tonight they can begin losing games outside the division.
+18 outside the division, -17 inside the division.
Unfortunately, they have more games remaining within the division. Something better change!
You can hope.
Hate you MFs that sour on your team and then just make jokes.
You re IN THE RACE, idiot.
I didn't say you hated anyone
It's funny you think I complain about the 2020 Presidential election.
Your debate loving ass would love that do be true. Just isn't so. Always looking forward.
It is what I have. I would feel better if today was not bull pen day.The Red Sox can win against everybody but the AL East.Sure. Starting tonight they can begin losing games outside the division.
+18 outside the division, -17 inside the division.
Unfortunately, they have more games remaining within the division. Something better change!
You can hope.
Have I mentioned how much I despise Franchy Cordero as a baseball player?
Congratulations to David Ortiz on his day of enshrinement in baseball's Hall of Fame.
An honor well deserved for the outsized slugger and personality who was magnificent when the stakes were highest.
The man was a lot of fun to watch.
I expect the Red Sox pitching staff to be decimated by deadline deals
Congratulations to David Ortiz on his day of enshrinement in baseball's Hall of Fame.
An honor well deserved for the outsized slugger and personality who was magnificent when the stakes were highest.
The man was a lot of fun to watch.
Not every PED user gets in to the HOF. But some do. Piazza, Ortiz...
All you have to do is kiss the media's ass, which they both did.
Fuck the Hall.
Congratulations to David Ortiz on his day of enshrinement in baseball's Hall of Fame.
An honor well deserved for the outsized slugger and personality who was magnificent when the stakes were highest.
The man was a lot of fun to watch.
Not every PED user gets in to the HOF. But some do. Piazza, Ortiz...
All you have to do is kiss the media's ass, which they both did.
Fuck the Hall.
Ortiz convicted in the Court of Ham.
Nowhere else.
Congratulations to David Ortiz on his day of enshrinement in baseball's Hall of Fame.
An honor well deserved for the outsized slugger and personality who was magnificent when the stakes were highest.
The man was a lot of fun to watch.
Not every PED user gets in to the HOF. But some do. Piazza, Ortiz...
All you have to do is kiss the media's ass, which they both did.
Fuck the Hall.
Ortiz convicted in the Court of Ham.
Nowhere else.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=4366335 (https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=4366335)
But I guess you don't believe the Times.
Heh
Red Sox in last place, now, too.
Go, O's!
Its St Louis that Phils are looking to beat out.
Its St Louis that Phils are looking to beat out.
It's okay for you to set your sights that low.
Mistake is taking Bell for Hosmer.
Red Sox taking a quick look at PHAM, who they can have next year for 6 mil (1.5 buyout)
What do you foresee as their 2023 outfield, left to right?
Ia a move that reshapes the AL Central, Cleveland has traded ian Leon to Minnesota for Sandy Hamilton. I may have those names wrong but I do not think it really matters.
Upgrade at 1B for the Red Sox:
https://www.mlb.com/news/eric-hosmer-rejects-trade-to-nationals
Still no idea what the Sox are giving up in this trade - part of me expects it to be one of our better starting pitchers.
Does Dalbec learn to play the outfield? Arm's strong enough, but I think he's way too slow. 3rd base for the time being, while we wait for Dever's return, with Arroyo moved to 2nd?
Who knows. But I can hope this is the end of the Cordero at 1st Base experiment...
once Hosmer recovers from his neck strain, that is.
Damn good Sox infield next year if Xander stays.
Over Hosmer? Get out a town.
So the Red Sox pitching staff which would have trouble in a beer league trades away one of them.
"I think there's a lot of different things we were trying to accomplish. We wanted to give this group a chance at the postseason," said Bloom. "I do think they have that chance. People who felt this group was good enough to make a run at it a few days ago, in my opinion, should still feel that way. This group looks a little different, but I don't think it
Castillo vs Cole playoff preview today
Hate you MFs that sour on your team and then just make jokes.
You re IN THE RACE, idiot.
It's true that both teams are in the race, but through no fault of the Beantowners is that the current case.
Back-to-back "triples" that Duran could not handle.
But the four walks around a single given up by Darwinzon Hernandez were beyond our fielders' ability to prevent. The man's ERA came in at 14.29, but he has managed to raise it up over 17.00, so far with the bases loaded and nobody out. Austin Davis will try to hold it to that, but it's tough.
It's nice when the minor leaguers come to town
It's nice when the minor leaguers come to town
The "minor leaguers came to town" at the end of June and it really hasn't been that nice.
It's nice when the minor leaguers come to town
The "minor leaguers came to town" at the end of June and it really hasn't been that nice.
heh
Dunce - that was response to the post above it.
Pete Rose. Still an unrepentant pig 50 years later Babe. What a poor excuse of a man
Probably too cheap to pay some of the guys that would be good.
https://www.mlb.com/redsox/news/chris-sale-to-miss-rest-of-2022-season
Broke his wrist in a bike accident.
At this point, he should be refunding money.
Come on, Sox. Win it.
Come on, Sox. Win it.
Schwarber leads a great CFBW vs the best pitcher in the NL, Sandy Alcantara.
Another win. Another series win. 13 -2 in the last 15 games.
Keep it going.
Schwarber leads a great CFBW vs the best pitcher in the NL, Sandy Alcantara.
Another win. Another series win. 13 -2 in the last 15 games.
Keep it going.
Why can't we get players like that?
Schwarber leads a great CFBW vs the best pitcher in the NL, Sandy Alcantara.
Another win. Another series win. 13 -2 in the last 15 games.
Keep it going.
Why can't we get players like that?
You don't treat them well enough. That's why Arod went to the Bronx.
Schwarber leads a great CFBW vs the best pitcher in the NL, Sandy Alcantara.
Another win. Another series win. 13 -2 in the last 15 games.
Keep it going.
Why can't we get players like that?
You don't treat them well enough. That's why Arod went to the Bronx.
Nah. That one is on the MLBPA.
https://www.sportscasting.com/alex-rodriguez-got-bombed-threw-up-streets-new-york-after-learning-dream-trade-boston-red-sox-nixed-mlbpa/
Schwarber leads a great CFBW vs the best pitcher in the NL, Sandy Alcantara.
Another win. Another series win. 13 -2 in the last 15 games.
Keep it going.
Why can't we get players like that?
You don't treat them well enough. That's why Arod went to the Bronx.
Nah. That one is on the MLBPA.
https://www.sportscasting.com/alex-rodriguez-got-bombed-threw-up-streets-new-york-after-learning-dream-trade-boston-red-sox-nixed-mlbpa/
If you paid him properly, the MLBPA wouldn't have been involved.
So, like I said, you don't treat them well enough.
Schwarber leads a great CFBW vs the best pitcher in the NL, Sandy Alcantara.
Another win. Another series win. 13 -2 in the last 15 games.
Keep it going.
Why can't we get players like that?
You don't treat them well enough. That's why Arod went to the Bronx.
Nah. That one is on the MLBPA.
https://www.sportscasting.com/alex-rodriguez-got-bombed-threw-up-streets-new-york-after-learning-dream-trade-boston-red-sox-nixed-mlbpa/
If you paid him properly, the MLBPA wouldn't have been involved.
So, like I said, you don't treat them well enough.
Schwarber out tonight - may miss all three with Mets
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/12/sport/padres-fernando-tatis-jr-suspended-mlb/index.html
Tatis suspended for 80 games - performance enhancing substance(s).
I would imagine that Mathewson, by all accounts a very smart man, nevertheless used a ghostwriter.
Man - those Phils are tough. How did Mets get out of that with 2 wins?Mets blooped their way to a series win. Only two hard hit balls in three games.
https://nypost.com/2022/08/16/fernando-tatis-father-blames-haircut-for-padres-suspension/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app&fbclid=IwAR3Jba8m3Wbw5vac5Rqgy-QWJpLvrDwLegXNVo3y22I2z4vUbwtE5niaphw
So how did he take the drug?
Heyman?
Josh?
TB with a nice shutout of the Yankees tonight.
The Yankees have had 24 hits and 5 runs in the last 37 innings.
Astros have home field advantage now, Yankees fans.
Phils with the lopsided win in Cincy last night led by Kyle Gibson's 11 K's and the team's 18 hit attack. Rhys Hoskins had 2 homers and 5 rbis. Hoskins now has a season total of 26 homers. He is only the fourth MLB player with four seasons of 26 or more homers since 2018. The others are Judge, Goldschmidt, and teammate Kyle Schwarber.
Schwarber remains out of the lineup with that calf strain. Calf injuries are tough to heal from, so that could be a big deal going into September.
One final note, the Phils finally reached the 10,000 win level. The last team to do so of those who were around in the 19th century.
And if a player gets knocked unconscious on the play, well, that's what they get for putting their head there.
In both plays the runner was safe. In one play, the catcher is uninjured.
And if a player gets knocked unconscious on the play, well, that's what they get for putting their head there.
In both plays the runner was safe. In one play, the catcher is uninjured.
I don't know what plays you're looking at, but you're wrong.
(Original Caption) San Francisco Giant's Willie Mays collides with Phillies Pat Corrales at home plate here, on a play in which Allen threw wild past 1st and Callison retrieved the ball and threw it to the plate. Umpire Augie Donatelli first called Mays out, then reversed call as Corrales who was knocked out on the play dropped the ball.
And if a player gets knocked unconscious on the play, well, that's what they get for putting their head there.
In both plays the runner was safe. In one play, the catcher is uninjured.
I don't know what plays you're looking at, but you're wrong.
The picture you linked ended up with Mays safe, after initially being called out.
Corrales let go of the ball because he was knocked out.Quote(Original Caption) San Francisco Giant's Willie Mays collides with Phillies Pat Corrales at home plate here, on a play in which Allen threw wild past 1st and Callison retrieved the ball and threw it to the plate. Umpire Augie Donatelli first called Mays out, then reversed call as Corrales who was knocked out on the play dropped the ball.
Perhaps you are thinking of a different play.
And if a player gets knocked unconscious on the play, well, that's what they get for putting their head there.
In both plays the runner was safe. In one play, the catcher is uninjured.
I don't know what plays you're looking at, but you're wrong.
The picture you linked ended up with Mays safe, after initially being called out.
Corrales let go of the ball because he was knocked out.Quote(Original Caption) San Francisco Giant's Willie Mays collides with Phillies Pat Corrales at home plate here, on a play in which Allen threw wild past 1st and Callison retrieved the ball and threw it to the plate. Umpire Augie Donatelli first called Mays out, then reversed call as Corrales who was knocked out on the play dropped the ball.
Perhaps you are thinking of a different play.
I was at the Mays game, He was never called safe. The writer got it wrong.
Corrales was involved in a memorable collision at home plate on July 10. In the first inning of a game at Connie Mack Stadium, the San Francisco Giants' Willie Mays slid into Corrales, who was blocking the plate, knocking Corrales out and gashing Corrales' neck with his spikes. "Mays was the only guy I've ever seen who seemed to be faster sliding than running," said Giants broadcaster Lon Simmons. "That was in Philadelphia and the fans are pretty rough there. Willie stayed down on the ground. He pretended he was hurt, too, so the fans wouldn't get on his case so bad."2 Corrales was removed from the game, and Mays, hurt or not, did not take the field for the bottom of the inning. Corrales was back in action five days later, starting a game at Cincinnati and going 3-for-3.
Mays got tossed - or was he injured?
This is the play described by Arnold Hano:
In Mays' MVP year of 1965, Mays hit Phillies catcher Pat Corrales so hard on a play at the plate that they both ended up in the hospital... Mays had a seriously bruised hip, and Corrales had a mild concussion. (He was taken off the field on a stretcher). Gene Mauch said after the game "The guy comes into home four feet in the air, kicks my catcher in the face, and still manages to touch home plate. He'll end up limping to the Hall of Fame."
Corrales said (from his hospital bed) ... "It was a clean play... but I've never been hit so hard in my life"
Why would the Yankees losing be a "consolation" to the Red Sox? The team beating them gained ground on the Sox and the Red Sox should be more worried about Toronto than the Yankees.. I'd say the Red Sox' consolation would be the Orioles losing. Fourth place is still in sight!!!
paraphrasing my father, "I don't care who wins as long as the Yankees lose"
BIG NIGHT, New York.
Yankees' lead is down to 8 games.
Sox and Os have 18 hits apiece after 7.5 innings. 15-10 for the Orioles. No 1-2-3 innings, yet.
And a GREAT DAY for NY teams.......sweep em up, baby.Seattle is much better than we are.
ready for a strong stretch drive and first Subway Series since 2000.
Crippling for Twins. But Guardians wont take the gifts.
CLE ------ lost 7 of 10
MIN-------- lost 6 of 10 2 back
Chi ---------won 6 of 10 2 back
Damn good Sox infield next year if Xander stays.
And if Story recovers.
Cassas will be there if he can get his AAA hitting up to align with everything before - or if he comes up and does it at the Major League level.
Over Hosmer? Get out a town.
Holy smokes! Phils are choking.
Taking Jays round one. Others we agree
Not watching til Tuesday
That was quick and efficient.
It must suck to be a Blue Jay. What a way for a season to end.
Fantasy hoops draft Sunday night 8 eastern
https://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/87187/invitation?key=fca91d833810c15d&soc_trk=lnk&ikey=f6a942d2670ac36f
Amazing comeback by the Astros.
Phillies just barely held on, but barely counts as much as by a wide margin.
Yankees won because of their pitching, but having the homers from other than Judge was entertaining. I hope Cleveland wins tomorrow.
What an amazing day of baseball this has been, so far!Did the Mariners Astros game ever end? I had a brief window to watch some of the Gaurdiac Kids game, and every time I switched to it they were showing guys I did not care about not getting hits.
An 18 inning game finishing 1-0, a game with a 9th inning comeback, a sweep of the defending champions.
Dodgers and Padres game has a lot to live up to.
I imagine Boone and Roberts will be looking for jobs.
Yanks seemingly get a break, able to use CortezWell, it also means Bieber instead of Civale. I take that trade.
I would stick with Taillon. Nestor unaccustomed to short rest.
Cole should get at least an inning.
Has that been made official?No. Civale is still listed as starter. Saving Biebs for the ALCS.
MAY not have been the right decision.Has that been made official?No. Civale is still listed as starter. Saving Biebs for the ALCS.
Where for the love of Christ is the hitter for Straw?Have you checked out the bench?
Got Yanks win + Sixers win parlayed.
Can the Yankees finally get over the Houston Humps? I mean hump.
Can the Yankees finally get over the Houston Humps? I mean hump.
Phillies have taken the lead.
Does Houston continue their march or can the Yankees slow them up?
Guardians doing anything you like this winter?Signed Bell, which i like in theory but worry about his current career trajectory. Have explored trading for a catcher
Red Sox snooze, Mets abuse.....
I joined my first DYNASTY fantasy league where roster are real deep with minor leaguers. You hooked me up last year on McKenzie. Any deep sleepers in Cleveland?Best prospects are a year or so away, like Espino or Bibee or Williams.
GGHF Season 22. Anyone wanna play fantasy baseball? Mention it here and we will set you up.They took away the message utility. I have no idea how to do the keepers.
Go to your team and along the right side it says choose keepersAh. Does not work on the App.
And, by all accounts, the most decent person in the history of baseball as well.