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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 09, 2018, 02:43:11 PM »

Wish I had Trump was my leader;

So do i.

902

Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 09, 2018, 02:27:06 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office).

Wait - Sherrod Brown lost? Somehow I think that would have been bigger news.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 09, 2018, 02:21:54 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office). In other races in competitive districts Warren’s Progressives went 0 for 9.

Americans have now seen the light.

Sure have! That is why the Democrats gained 7 governor seats, took control of the House, and had far more people vote for their House and Senatorial candidates than Republicans!

Richard Cordray is a professional candidate who has not won anything since the last time he was.on Jeopardy.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 09, 2018, 12:39:16 PM »

"They want to turn us into California!"

Yep.  I expect a lot of voters were missing the information I provided in the rest of my post.  Political hacks like to encourage short-term thinking.

Several people ran against turning Arizona into California. I think if the do turn us into California, can we.get Big Sur?

905

Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 09, 2018, 12:35:32 PM »

LOL
Then compare the vote for Florida Governor to the vote reinstituting voting rights to former felons.

Ballot measure:  64.5 % YES

Governor:  dead heat, each meandering around 49%

Republican voters have more integrity and interest in democracy than Republican politicians once they are in power?  I'm sure there are multiple interpretations.  What's yours?

My guess is that 30 or so percent of Florida voters are independent and could well account for the difference. They split on Governor but voted for voting restoration. To which Espn will reply with either LOL or Uh huh. Sure. But not with actual argument.

906

Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 09, 2018, 12:26:23 PM »

Not-so-good results Tuesday for the Greens

Voters in::

Washington defeated a carbon tax for the second time in 2 years.(56%-44%)

Colorado defeated a proposal to effectively shut down oil and gas exploration in the state(57%-43%)

Arizona defeated aproposal to derive 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030(70%-30%)

Alaska defeated attempts to restrict development around salmon habitats(64%-36%)

Montana said no to new restrictions on hard rock mines(56%-44%)

And Elizabeth Warren’s dream of a Progressive take-over of the democrat party may have suffered a fatal blow on Tuesday. Despite her strong endorsement and campaigning Richard Cordray’ s bid to become Ohio Governor for came up short(as did every democrat in Ohio running for statewide office). In other races in competitive districts Warren’s Progressives went 0 for 9.

I would have to see the specific wording of the AZ legislative bill to really have an opinion on why it was defeated.

"They want to turn us into California!"

907

Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 09, 2018, 09:27:25 AM »

Meanwhile, in Florida...

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/marco-rubio-opposes-recount-in-florida-senate-race.html?fbclid=IwAR1nP0DKOftFoFhckIXvaPeIsxk0cmXfg0EmOPPp2AFpfxveXhxCNsOjE9M

Every ballot needs to be counted.

And perhaps the design of the ballots needs to be considered.

Governor Scott should at least be kissed before they try to fuck him.

Counting every ballot is fucking him how?

Sinema has gone from 15000 down to 9000 up, with 400000 ballots left to count. We really need a better way to count early voting.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 08, 2018, 06:07:42 PM »

A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.

A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.

An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.

Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.

Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.

If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.

BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.

If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.

Why? Aren't one weeks rankings supposed to be independent of the last?  If so, I'd wager an uninspired Michigan win over Rutgers plus a Georgia massacre of Auburn could well switch them.

The Committee has said the gap between Meatchicken and Georgia is razor thin, so yes the two could.easily switch places. But unless.Georgia beats Alabama, they would not finish ahead of a one loss Big Whatever team. And if they do Alabama becomes the issue for Meatchicken.

909

Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 08, 2018, 06:02:26 PM »

Can't make this stuff up. Jason "Target Rich Environment" warns that Democrats an "insatiable.desire" to 9nvestivate Trump:

http://mm4a.org/4NY

That would be this guy, who may be unaware of the definition of irony:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-republicans-are-already-preparing-for-years-of-investigations-of-clinton/2016/10/26/e153a714-9ac3-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html?utm_term=.64f86a10169d#

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 08, 2018, 04:39:19 PM »

Neil Young has once.again asked Trump to stop using Rockin' in the Free World at rallies. However, he is fine with Trump using this one:

https://youtu.be/BvRmBUEwtZg

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 08, 2018, 03:33:28 PM »

A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.

A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.

An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.

A three loss Notre Dame still has NO effect on Michigan getting into the playoffs.
Only  Michigan losses can accomplish that.

We disagree.

I was going to accuse Red ESPN of poll thinking and point out the committee reevaluated teams.each week, so a comparison between Meatchicken and Oklahoma could get dicey if each comes away one loss champs. But then I realized that a loss by Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie means instead of Meatchicken and Oklahoma competing for one spot they would be competing, along with maybe one loss Wash St for two spots. I suspect we all know who is outside looking in under that scenario.

So while you are right a loss by Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie would hurt Meatchickens resume, as a practical matter it would not affect their chances at being in the playoffs, just their possible seeding.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: November 08, 2018, 02:49:34 PM »

Another day another mass shooting...

Prayers for the people, action from our representatives.

How did the ex-marine with PTSD get into a bar with a modified handgun in the first place?

Like at the synagogue recently, absolute security would've saved lives.

Wasnt the first person he shot the security guy?

And there is no absolute security. Those five locks you installed on your mom's basement door? Child's play if the really want in. And those guns? What if there are more people than ammo? You are.dead mate. They are coming for you! They are right outside your door!

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 08, 2018, 02:44:38 PM »

A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.

A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.

An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.

Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.

Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 08, 2018, 07:33:47 AM »

If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.

This is the same point I made last week.  I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee.   If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.

I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.

I suspect this point will come up later, but I think the committee has done as good a job as humanly possible in setting the playoffs each year.  Even where I disagree, the Committee has at least been consistent and I have understood its rationale.

The thing is, the Committee is charged with first, determining which team is better based upon their over all resume. 

And Michigan’s resume(if it is 11-1B1G Champion) can only be topped by an undefeated Alabama, Clemson, or Notre Dame. Michigan rises above any or all of them with a loss by any or all of them.

I think Bama is the only team safe to say will still be a lock to be above Michigan if it loses to say Auburn yet beats Georgia for the SEC title. Clemson would be IMO a 70-30 favorite over Michigan if they came to the dance at a one loss ACC Champ. ND IMO falls right off the F4 map completely if they lose a game. Again my opinion.

If Alabama or ClemSIN are conference champs, they are in the playoffs. The question is more, how do they treat them if they do not win the conference title. By the consistent precedent the Committee has employed, they would get in over any two loss champion. But what if Albama loses to Georgia and there are no two loss champs?,I have been using Meatchicken, but the question might get closer if the Big Whatever champ is tOSU. Or if the one loss champ it is compared to is Washington State.

But what if ND loses? It could/should(Since ND has no Title game to bolster it) open the door for the PAC and B12 one loss champs.

A.one loss ND is likely screwed unless there are two two loss champs. Even though they beat Meatchicken head to head.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 08, 2018, 12:11:08 AM »

If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.

This is the same point I made last week.  I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee.   If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.

I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.

I suspect this point will come up later, but I think the committee has done as good a job as humanly possible in setting the playoffs each year.  Even where I disagree, the Committee has at least been consistent and I have understood its rationale.

The thing is, the Committee is charged with first, determining which team is better based upon their over all resume. 

And Michigan’s resume(if it is 11-1B1G Champion) can only be topped by an undefeated Alabama, Clemson, or Notre Dame. Michigan rises above any or all of them with a loss by any or all of them.

We disagree.