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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29520 on: March 22, 2020, 02:19:08 PM »

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israeli-leader-offers-step-year-unity-deal-69730234?cid=social_fb_abcn&fbclid=IwAR3NPR0UlXyWwcwxU7kpY_2sD_-olKIdP9Ho_R0dadMEHK7lGX4ShCERyS4

Why, bless his little heart!

Netanyahu, who has suspended much of the Israeli government, has generously offered to step down in 18 months as part of a power-sharing scheme with the other party in which he keeps power for the time being.

Still trying to stay out of jail.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29521 on: March 22, 2020, 02:27:35 PM »

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Emergency physician Dr. Megan Ranney says that despite what President Trump said, it's impossible to sterilize the N95 masks as the coronavirus pandemic continues to grow.
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« Reply #29522 on: March 22, 2020, 02:28:45 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/03/20/california-coronavirus-racial-slur-kyung-lah-tapper-lead-sot-vpx.cnn

I'm with Tapper. Damned racists ought to quarantine themselves from society.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29523 on: March 22, 2020, 02:48:30 PM »

The US and the states can't organize and coordinate and keep track of this?  Shortages?   Embarrassing.  We'd be shaking our heads if say Mexico were performing like this.


Relax....

We dont want every American on line geting a test anyway.  Think of the madness.  Sick people would be waiting as the WELL took up important time easing their mind.

99.6 fever with a cough and other issues....

that's a fine place to draw the line for now.

Curious how NY got its hands on more tests than other locales.  Maybe its due to what Cuomo now complains of - that states have to fend for themselves to get supplies (driving the price sky high in many cases)
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« Reply #29524 on: March 22, 2020, 02:51:05 PM »

By the way, Mayor (I am running for the 2024 presidency)...

Prices WILL go up as suppliers need to pay their work forces overtime and THEIR suppliers (think of what material goes into making a mask) raise prices.

Should they go up 6-7 times over?  No.  Likely not - though you likely stretched that truth a bit


(I do like Cuomo, by the way.  He's hope for your party)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29525 on: March 22, 2020, 02:58:41 PM »

Ben Carson:  "There are some masks where that would not be appropriate.  But there are some that could be (sterilized and re-used)."
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« Reply #29526 on: March 22, 2020, 03:02:06 PM »

Patients have complained that they had to jump through cumbersome bureaucratic hoops and wait days to get tested, then wait even longer for a result.


Yeah - we call those people ASSHOLES.
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« Reply #29527 on: March 22, 2020, 03:03:41 PM »

Patients have complained that they had to jump through cumbersome bureaucratic hoops and wait days to get tested, then wait even longer for a result.


Yeah - we call those people ASSHOLES.

We call comments like this IRONIC.
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« Reply #29528 on: March 22, 2020, 03:04:02 PM »

My spouse is sewing masks as we speak.



Why?  Is it better than a bandana?  If so, how?  Maybe we all should make them for distribution (private use wouldnt be necessary if not infected).
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« Reply #29529 on: March 22, 2020, 03:06:50 PM »

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/21-inmates-17-employees-test-positive-for-covid-19-on-rikers-island-officials/2338242/?fbclid=IwAR3CuPe__tarunqwmvOqRyF_vJKm6l3R7pW3D65peTN7qjFNkL4ZcmGHgmM

This is the beginning notice of a disaster in the making.

Estimates of about 7,000 prisoners in that facility (down from 20,000 a couple decades ago). Not sure how many staff, but hundreds of them.
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« Reply #29530 on: March 22, 2020, 03:07:38 PM »

I get that the mantra is "government cant get its act together and meanwhile PEOPLE ARE DYING!"

Those currently dying would be dying anyway.  Maybe a discussion needs to be had on treatment/possible CURING of these unlucky folk rather than shooting arrows at what appears to you to be low hanging fruit.



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« Reply #29531 on: March 22, 2020, 03:22:51 PM »

private use wouldnt be necessary if not infected.

The point is we don't know who is or isn't infected.  Largely because of the lack of testing.  But also the nature of the virus, with a relatively long incubation period, and reportedly a contagious period possible prior to symptoms.  Also the symptoms are similar to those of flu, cold, allergies.

If everyone wears a face mask in public, then everyone who is infected --  those who are asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic or experiencing symptoms -- will be largely prevented from spreading the contagion.  And healthy people would have two layers of protection, the mask on their face and the masks others are wearing.  This will reduce transmission.

This has worked very well in China. 

If I were the governor of NY, I would be calling China, getting a plane loaded with two types of face masks, and then distributing them either free, at cost or at a reasonable price.  There's plenty of excess air capacity right now.  probably can charter a plane could charter a plane from any airline.

Face masks are small and light.
How many millions can fit on an airplane.
Maybe send one of those large military cargo planes.
Start importing tens of millions of masks per day.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29532 on: March 22, 2020, 03:29:24 PM »

How much do the masks cost in China?

Are you sure there is an endless supply?

Will the Chinese government comply?
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« Reply #29533 on: March 22, 2020, 03:33:04 PM »

Key issue here today is whether or not acquisition and distribution of PPE should be taken over completely by the federal government (as NY Gov Cuomo suggests)

The next task force presser is 430 EST today.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29534 on: March 22, 2020, 03:47:02 PM »

How much do the masks cost in China?
Cheap.  Especially when you buy by the millions.

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Are you sure there is an endless supply?

There's been enough for everyone in China.

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Will the Chinese government comply?

China wants to get it's economy going again and factories cranking up.
China has also been putting on a charm offensive and offering to help Italy and Iran with protective gear and ventilators.

This is the kind of thing I'm taking about:

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A giant transport plane landed late Saturday at an airport in the Czech Republic loaded with over 100 tons of much needed supplies for the medical sector to combat the outbreak of the coronavirus. The transport was part of a NATO program.

The Czech Defense Ministry said the plane was flying from the city of Shenzhen in south-eastern China with over 106 metric tons (117 tons) of equipment.
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