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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13305 on: May 01, 2019, 09:01:46 PM »

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

Let’s talk for a minute how batshit this is, given that this apparently will become the basis of the GOP counter-investigation effort which Barr has now signed off on:

Mueller was clear (and didn’t need to explain it to anyone that had a brain) that the wide-ranging effort perpetrated by Russia in 2016 which included stolen emails, disseminating the stolen emails, spread of disinformation via social networks, and the hacking of election systems, was enacted in order to elect Donald Trump President.  And his campaign knew it.

Now we are to believe that despite all that, the Russians actually wanted Clinton to win, and to counteract the above effort they fed disinformation into a dossier that didn’t even come to light until after the election.  Huh.  I guess you could make an argument that Russia was attempting to discredit both candidates, you know, playing both sides, but that sure is an awfully uneven effort.  How is this argument even remotely justifiable to anyone who isn’t a completely partisan Trumpist (ie Barr?)

And it gets dumber when you realize how much real damage Russia could have done to Trump if they wanted to.  They knew Trump was trying to put together a Moscow Tower deal when Trump was on TV nightly denying any Russian business.  Why didn’t they say anything?  And Moscow has denied every instance of collusion with Trump when it has come up, when they knew Trump's campaign manager was passing on polling info to them. Putin even snidely celebrated the Mueller findings (as reported by Barr.)   If Russia wanted to hurt Trump with (dis)information, wouldn’t they be saying “Yeah, we colluded with Trump.  Lots.  Here.  We have the signed contracts…”  Heck, how hard would it be for them to produce audio of a pee tape?

Maybe much of the Steele Dossier turns out to be untrue (though some of it has been proven) but it was never meant to be the result of an in-depth investigation, and was not the basis of either the FBI investigation or the FISA warrants.  It’s totally absurd, given what we know happened before the election and how Trump has treated Putin afterwards, to contend that Russia’s intention was to use the Dossier to hurt Trump. 

Barr discredited himself in many ways today.  Giving credence to a nutball conspiracy theory obviously cooked up to distract from Trump’s real wrongdoing was the worst of it.
Meanwhile Kirsten Gillibrand was playing beer pong but using only water.
Help is on the way America!

Meanwhile, Ward continues to refuse to address the corrupt practices of the President of the United States; continues to fail to discuss the kidnapping and mistreatment of thousands of children along with the refusal of those charged with their care to bother keeping track of where they put them; and continues to refuse to discuss the ongoing racist, misogynistic, and classist bullshit that comes out of the mouths of GOP elected and appointed officials or out of the legislative groups controlled by said GOP officials.

And somehow, Ward, you think that Gillibrand's water pong is a worse putdown than what your party is doing.

You remain a disgusting amoral hypocrite.
ROFL!

Of course you are.

Nor do you care that you are rolling around in shit.

And all you do when you post such thoughtful responsive posts is underscore the accuracy of my points.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13307 on: May 01, 2019, 09:53:50 PM »

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

Let’s talk for a minute how batshit this is, given that this apparently will become the basis of the GOP counter-investigation effort which Barr has now signed off on:

Mueller was clear (and didn’t need to explain it to anyone that had a brain) that the wide-ranging effort perpetrated by Russia in 2016 which included stolen emails, disseminating the stolen emails, spread of disinformation via social networks, and the hacking of election systems, was enacted in order to elect Donald Trump President.  And his campaign knew it.

Now we are to believe that despite all that, the Russians actually wanted Clinton to win, and to counteract the above effort they fed disinformation into a dossier that didn’t even come to light until after the election.  Huh.  I guess you could make an argument that Russia was attempting to discredit both candidates, you know, playing both sides, but that sure is an awfully uneven effort.  How is this argument even remotely justifiable to anyone who isn’t a completely partisan Trumpist (ie Barr?)

And it gets dumber when you realize how much real damage Russia could have done to Trump if they wanted to.  They knew Trump was trying to put together a Moscow Tower deal when Trump was on TV nightly denying any Russian business.  Why didn’t they say anything?  And Moscow has denied every instance of collusion with Trump when it has come up, when they knew Trump's campaign manager was passing on polling info to them. Putin even snidely celebrated the Mueller findings (as reported by Barr.)   If Russia wanted to hurt Trump with (dis)information, wouldn’t they be saying “Yeah, we colluded with Trump.  Lots.  Here.  We have the signed contracts…”  Heck, how hard would it be for them to produce audio of a pee tape?

Maybe much of the Steele Dossier turns out to be untrue (though some of it has been proven) but it was never meant to be the result of an in-depth investigation, and was not the basis of either the FBI investigation or the FISA warrants.  It’s totally absurd, given what we know happened before the election and how Trump has treated Putin afterwards, to contend that Russia’s intention was to use the Dossier to hurt Trump. 

Barr discredited himself in many ways today.  Giving credence to a nutball conspiracy theory obviously cooked up to distract from Trump’s real wrongdoing was the worst of it.
Meanwhile Kirsten Gillibrand was playing beer pong but using only water.
Help is on the way America!

What does this have to do with price of fish?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13308 on: May 01, 2019, 09:59:32 PM »

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

Let’s talk for a minute how batshit this is, given that this apparently will become the basis of the GOP counter-investigation effort which Barr has now signed off on:

Mueller was clear (and didn’t need to explain it to anyone that had a brain) that the wide-ranging effort perpetrated by Russia in 2016 which included stolen emails, disseminating the stolen emails, spread of disinformation via social networks, and the hacking of election systems, was enacted in order to elect Donald Trump President.  And his campaign knew it.

Now we are to believe that despite all that, the Russians actually wanted Clinton to win, and to counteract the above effort they fed disinformation into a dossier that didn’t even come to light until after the election.  Huh.  I guess you could make an argument that Russia was attempting to discredit both candidates, you know, playing both sides, but that sure is an awfully uneven effort.  How is this argument even remotely justifiable to anyone who isn’t a completely partisan Trumpist (ie Barr?)

And it gets dumber when you realize how much real damage Russia could have done to Trump if they wanted to.  They knew Trump was trying to put together a Moscow Tower deal when Trump was on TV nightly denying any Russian business.  Why didn’t they say anything?  And Moscow has denied every instance of collusion with Trump when it has come up, when they knew Trump's campaign manager was passing on polling info to them. Putin even snidely celebrated the Mueller findings (as reported by Barr.)   If Russia wanted to hurt Trump with (dis)information, wouldn’t they be saying “Yeah, we colluded with Trump.  Lots.  Here.  We have the signed contracts…”  Heck, how hard would it be for them to produce audio of a pee tape?

Maybe much of the Steele Dossier turns out to be untrue (though some of it has been proven) but it was never meant to be the result of an in-depth investigation, and was not the basis of either the FBI investigation or the FISA warrants.  It’s totally absurd, given what we know happened before the election and how Trump has treated Putin afterwards, to contend that Russia’s intention was to use the Dossier to hurt Trump. 

Barr discredited himself in many ways today.  Giving credence to a nutball conspiracy theory obviously cooked up to distract from Trump’s real wrongdoing was the worst of it.
Meanwhile Kirsten Gillibrand was playing beer pong but using only water.
Help is on the way America!

What does this have to do with price of fish?
Why are you asking me?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13309 on: May 01, 2019, 10:45:35 PM »

When I was a kid in Oregon I was taught to leave a basket of flowers by the neighbor's door, and knock and then run, on May 1st, which is May Day.

https://www.almanac.com/content/what-may-day

She was a cool teacher, she was into folk music, and she was great.

Salute,

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13310 on: May 01, 2019, 11:17:41 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13311 on: May 01, 2019, 11:52:24 PM »

Particularly where Barr signs on to the absurd notion that the Steele Dossier could be a Russian disinformation effort meant to hurt Trump.  The Mueller Report was 100% clear on who the Russians wanted to win the election.  It wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

Let’s talk for a minute how batshit this is, given that this apparently will become the basis of the GOP counter-investigation effort which Barr has now signed off on:

Mueller was clear (and didn’t need to explain it to anyone that had a brain) that the wide-ranging effort perpetrated by Russia in 2016 which included stolen emails, disseminating the stolen emails, spread of disinformation via social networks, and the hacking of election systems, was enacted in order to elect Donald Trump President.  And his campaign knew it.

Now we are to believe that despite all that, the Russians actually wanted Clinton to win, and to counteract the above effort they fed disinformation into a dossier that didn’t even come to light until after the election.  Huh.  I guess you could make an argument that Russia was attempting to discredit both candidates, you know, playing both sides, but that sure is an awfully uneven effort.  How is this argument even remotely justifiable to anyone who isn’t a completely partisan Trumpist (ie Barr?)

And it gets dumber when you realize how much real damage Russia could have done to Trump if they wanted to.  They knew Trump was trying to put together a Moscow Tower deal when Trump was on TV nightly denying any Russian business.  Why didn’t they say anything?  And Moscow has denied every instance of collusion with Trump when it has come up, when they knew Trump's campaign manager was passing on polling info to them. Putin even snidely celebrated the Mueller findings (as reported by Barr.)   If Russia wanted to hurt Trump with (dis)information, wouldn’t they be saying “Yeah, we colluded with Trump.  Lots.  Here.  We have the signed contracts…”  Heck, how hard would it be for them to produce audio of a pee tape?

Maybe much of the Steele Dossier turns out to be untrue (though some of it has been proven) but it was never meant to be the result of an in-depth investigation, and was not the basis of either the FBI investigation or the FISA warrants.  It’s totally absurd, given what we know happened before the election and how Trump has treated Putin afterwards, to contend that Russia’s intention was to use the Dossier to hurt Trump. 

Barr discredited himself in many ways today.  Giving credence to a nutball conspiracy theory obviously cooked up to distract from Trump’s real wrongdoing was the worst of it.
Meanwhile Kirsten Gillibrand was playing beer pong but using only water.
Help is on the way America!

What does this have to do with price of fish?
Why are you asking me?

Because you are the one to whom he was responding, Ward. YOU wrote the tripe.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13312 on: May 01, 2019, 11:58:40 PM »

Good Lord!

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1123622950463246336

Pretty amazing...

what you are struck by versus what you do not see worthy to comment upon.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13313 on: May 02, 2019, 12:11:47 AM »

https://www.knau.org/post/trump-administration-budget-eliminates-funding-tribal-college-scholarships

For the 2nd year in a row, Trump has proposed eliminating tribal scholarships for college.

I hope it doesn't fly this year, either, but it is still pretty venal and petty.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13314 on: May 02, 2019, 12:55:01 AM »

Trump never went to college and he stole the White House and the whole republican party.

Most of the large majority of Americans who want to see him removed and locked up went to college.

It’s no surprise that trump is against education. Education is his kryptonite.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13315 on: May 02, 2019, 01:47:07 AM »

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Re: Immigration
« Reply #13316 on: May 02, 2019, 01:49:07 AM »

Right now we have people coming from Venezuela, big time, more than what this info suggests...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_immigration_statistics

Salute,

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13317 on: May 02, 2019, 02:00:29 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #13318 on: May 02, 2019, 02:04:06 AM »

Congress cannot get its act together to pay for emergency funding of places like Puerto Rico, so places like Tyndall Air Force Base continue to suffer, too.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/04/30/air-force-cant-start-storm-repair-projects-tyndall-due-funding-gap.html

Here the President is, seeking to pay for his "emergency" on the border, but ignoring the proven emergencies that undermine our national security at least as much as the border with Mexico's current status.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #13319 on: May 02, 2019, 02:28:18 AM »

The unions can help to tell the new immigrants where the jobs are, there are jobs rebuilding areas which were devastated by fires, and by hurricanes, and by floods, and there are jobs working in the vineyards and in the fields, and there are jobs for nurses working in the hospitals, etc, etc, etc, the unions can tell the new immigrants where the jobs are.

And we can also send new immigrants to the shrinking cities such as Detroit...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinking_cities

And I recommend that the new immigrants check out Nevada...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada

Salute,

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