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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Espnthree]

What happens if they can't "work out the solution"?

The Mother will make the decision to abort is the most likely outcome.
Unless adoption is a compromise.

[facilitatorn]

What happens if they can't "work out the solution"?

The Mother will make the decision to abort is the most likely outcome.
Unless adoption is a compromise.

And you are happy to see that decision criminalized along with the outcome of many high risk pregnancies. You are a low and immoral enough bastard to actually be a republican

[LarryB!]

The father should always have a say.
Hire a good lawyer, the baby is half his.

What if the father is a rapist?

What if he is not?
What if he is a loving spouse and birth control failed?

Interesting scenario.in which I have experience.
My late wife had MS and when the pregnancy was discovered it ws in a difficult relapsing stage. Her doctor said it could be a difficult pregnancy. This was the 80s more is known these days and perhaps our decision would have been different. The decision came down to the fact we had two toddlers who needed their mother.

[luee]

One scenerio, there is a conception out of wedlock the father says lets marry I want the baby, the woman says you dont love me I am leaving and having an abortion. The father has no rights under the liberal laws. This happened to a friend.

[Yankguy1]

What should the law be in such situation? That the woman carry the fetus to term?

[Hairy Lime]

What happens if they can't "work out the solution"?

The Mother will make the decision to abort is the most likely outcome.
Unless adoption is a compromise.

Well, yeah. The mother will make the decision. But the question really is not, should the soon to be parents make decisions on the future of the fetus together. It is whether that should be required by law. You cannot fix a broken relationship by trying to force a good one on people.

[Hairy Lime]

One scenerio, there is a conception out of wedlock the father says lets marry I want the baby, the woman says you dont love me I am leaving and having an abortion. The father has no rights under the liberal laws. This happened to a friend.

So you believe a man should be able to compel a woman to either marry him or be an unwed single mother with all of the problems and issues that entails?

[LarryB!]

One scenerio, there is a conception out of wedlock the father says lets marry I want the baby, the woman says you dont love me I am leaving and having an abortion. The father has no rights under the liberal laws. This happened to a friend.

Sucks for him, huh?

[Espnthree]

What should the law be in such situation? That the woman carry the fetus to term?

What law is needed?
If it was rape there should be an exception for it (in a non abortion state)
If it was consensual sex but an unwanted pregnancy then the two of them  can decide.
But the woman has the upper hand. 

[Yankguy1]

Ask Luee.   He said the father "has no rights under the liberals laws". 

I agree no law is needed. 

[Hairy Lime]

AOC is pretty smart and her point is correct, but this is never going to not bother me in at least three different ways:

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said the reason Republicans don't want a public hearing is because Democrats on the Oversight Committee "have hoisted them by their own petards in every public hearing this year."

[Yankguy1]

She might be pretty smart but "hoisted" is not the word.

[facilitatorn]

One scenerio, there is a conception out of wedlock the father says lets marry I want the baby, the woman says you dont love me I am leaving and having an abortion. The father has no rights under the liberal laws. This happened to a friend.

Sucks for him, huh?

If the friend is anything like Luee she chose well.

[FlyingVProd]

One scenerio, there is a conception out of wedlock the father says lets marry I want the baby, the woman says you dont love me I am leaving and having an abortion. The father has no rights under the liberal laws. This happened to a friend.

Liza Minnelli won an Oscar for her roll in "Cabaret" where she played an entertainer who became pregnant and they were all excited about the baby and about what a beautiful baby it would be, and the man wanted the baby, and then her character Sally Bowles has an abortion and kills the baby, and she tells him that she would just hate him for ruining her career and thus she chose the abortion.

I feel like the man should have a say when it is his kid, but in "Cabaret" she aborted the baby even though the man wanted it.

Salute,

Tony V.

[Yankguy1]

You probably should watch the movie again.  Sally Bowles did not know who the father was.