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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[jmmengel]

Paul Ryan is not voting for Trump.
It may come as news to the pea brains on ELBA that many principled republicans feel the same way.
Voting for Trump because he is GOP by ballot label means nothing.
Trump is not a Conservative in the mold of William Buckley , Ronald Reagan, HW Bush, etc.
Turning the party over to MAGA to defeat Biden is not worth it.
The polls ( scoreboards) seemingly go unnoticed to those who look behind the headlines.

Trump may be leading but in a two way race he polls at 46-47 per cent.
The election is not a two way race.

The SOLE dem strategy is to demonize Trump via Lawfare, pliable media, and Trump s own dialog.

Maybe the electorate will hold Biden to his record of failure.
It is more likely that educated and morally reliable GOP and Independent voters will opt for riding out the mess Biden created amid a divided Congress and a SCOTUS that adheres to the Constitution.
In short. Democracy is not at stake. We will survive. No need to compromise on those values

[Hairy Lime]

It is more likely that educated and morally reliable GOP

I am reminded of a Will Rogers quote about the better element of Pennsylvania.

[jmmengel]

It is more likely that educated and morally reliable GOP

I am reminded of a Will Rogers quote about the better element of Pennsylvania.

No you are not.

[Hairy Lime]

It is more likely that educated and morally reliable GOP

I am reminded of a Will Rogers quote about the better element of Pennsylvania.

No you are not.

Liar.

[Oiled]

Wasn't that Mencken? 

[Oiled]

Paul Ryan is not voting for Trump.

Here is a Will Rogers quote (which btw my tagline also is) on votes...

The counters cant tell whether they are bought or just bargained for.

[jmmengel]

Paul Ryan is not voting for Trump.

Here is a Will Rogers quote (which btw my tagline also is) on votes...

The counters cant tell whether they are bought or just bargained for.

A. It is irrelevant to my post.
B. Will Rogers never said that.
And Hairy knows that .

[luee]

Not a big fan of Bibi he should resign what is he doing invading Rafah. End the war get the hostages back and listen to your rich uncle.

[Hairy Lime]

Wasn't that Mencken?

JFK attributed the quote to Will Rogers. Good enough for him, good enough for me.

I was not misled, I should add, by those who constantly told me that Senator Kefauver could not win "because all the better element in the party were against him." For I well remembered the words of Will Rogers in a similar situation: "They told me," he said, with respect to a notorious candidate in Pennsylvania at that time, "that the better element are all against him. Well, I knew that but I also knew that there are very few of the better element in Pennsylvania. I don't know offhand of a state, according to its population, that has fewer better element. Of course, I hope that nothing disastrous turns up, but I warned them three months ago to procure more better element."

https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/boston-ma-19561108

[Hairy Lime]

Paul Ryan is not voting for Trump.

Here is a Will Rogers quote (which btw my tagline also is) on votes...

The counters cant tell whether they are bought or just bargained for.

A. It is irrelevant to my post.
B. Will Rogers never said that.
And Hairy knows that .

Are you calling JFK a LIAR, sir? The sainted, martyred JFK? President of the US, and 4th Degree Knight of Columbus? For shame, sir! For shame! Pretty sure Ted Sorenson researched the quote.

Also directly relevant.

[jmmengel]

Paul Ryan is not voting for Trump.

Here is a Will Rogers quote (which btw my tagline also is) on votes...

The counters cant tell whether they are bought or just bargained for.

A. It is irrelevant to my post.
B. Will Rogers never said that. [
And Hairy knows that .

Are you calling JFK a LIAR, sir? The sainted, martyred JFK? President of the US, and 4th Degree Knight of Columbus? For shame, sir! For shame! Pretty sure Ted Sorenson researched the quote.

Also directly relevant.

Irrelevant to my post.
No matter how many times you lie about it

[Hairy Lime]

Paul Ryan is not voting for Trump.

Here is a Will Rogers quote (which btw my tagline also is) on votes...

The counters cant tell whether they are bought or just bargained for.

A. It is irrelevant to my post.
B. Will Rogers never said that. [
And Hairy knows that .

Are you calling JFK a LIAR, sir? The sainted, martyred JFK? President of the US, and 4th Degree Knight of Columbus? For shame, sir! For shame! Pretty sure Ted Sorenson researched the quote.

Also directly relevant.

Irrelevant to my post.
No matter how many times you lie about it

LOL

[jmmengel]

Paul Ryan is not voting for Trump.

Here is a Will Rogers quote (which btw my tagline also is) on votes...

The counters cant tell whether they are bought or just bargained for.

A. It is irrelevant to my post.
B. Will Rogers never said that. [
And Hairy knows that .

Are you calling JFK a LIAR, sir? The sainted, martyred JFK? President of the US, and 4th Degree Knight of Columbus? For shame, sir! For shame! Pretty sure Ted Sorenson researched the quote.

Also directly relevant.

Irrelevant to my post.
No matter how many times you lie about it

LOL

LOL

[LarryB!]

Paul Ryan is not voting for Trump.
It may come as news to the pea brains on ELBA that many principled republicans feel the same way.
Voting for Trump because he is GOP by ballot label means nothing.
Trump is not a Conservative in the mold of William Buckley , Ronald Reagan, HW Bush, etc.
Turning the party over to MAGA to defeat Biden is not worth it.
The polls ( scoreboards) seemingly go unnoticed to those who look behind the headlines.

Trump may be leading but in a two way race he polls at 46-47 per cent.
The election is not a two way race.

The SOLE dem strategy is to demonize Trump via Lawfare, pliable media, and Trump s own dialog.

Maybe the electorate will hold Biden to his record of failure.
It is more likely that educated and morally reliable GOP and Independent voters will opt for riding out the mess Biden created amid a divided Congress and a SCOTUS that adheres to the Constitution.
In short. Democracy is not at stake. We will survive. No need to compromise on those values

Lawfare?

Trump would not be in court if he had refrained from criming before, during and after his presidency.