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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #5175 on: April 08, 2019, 08:08:53 AM »

JimJam got some minutes v Utah.
5-11 FG, but now 0-11 on NBA 3's, which is why he's out there ...

I believe they will pick up his option.  Was tough to guard in the one stretch I saw.
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« Reply #5176 on: April 08, 2019, 10:25:13 AM »

Detroit has Memphis and AT the Knicks.  Ultimate choke if they lose both

Miami gets Philly and AT Brooklyn

Charlotte has AT Cleveland and Orlando
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« Reply #5177 on: April 08, 2019, 03:57:27 PM »

Mario's stock rising. Showing grit, tenacity and smarts.

His quotes on understanding why the young guys had to play were just as endearing as his play. He's not worth the money he's making, but I'd love him back as a 10th or 11th man type.
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« Reply #5178 on: April 08, 2019, 04:01:50 PM »

Yeah.  I see the Basketball Hall of Very Good welcomed quite a few.

Well, no clear-cut HoFers, which probably helps the borderline cases.

Vlade.  Didn't strike me as a Hall player.  But maybe if you tack on his int'l career, plus exec work now, as a basketball lifer whose been involved in so many aspects.  Not bad for a guy who smoked 5 packs a day (I kid).

a) CWebb to me is a clear-cut HOFer to me
b) Vlade got in primarily on his international career, where voting is a lot more forgiving (as it is for college coaches, for example)
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« Reply #5179 on: April 09, 2019, 12:32:33 AM »


I'd put CWebb in, but also no rush to do so.

CWebb put up strong numbers.  Was a very good passing Big.  But often seemed to come up short in big moments.
Without the knee injuries, he would have put up 20K points and clear HoF numbers.  But nearly 21 & 10 for a career is HoF.
He'll get in.

He has weird negatives:
- was taking money UM booster money since 8th grade
(UM W's when he was there have been voided from the records)
- the infamous timeout boner
- bailed on his first team GSW (as a #1 overall pick)
- lack of playoff success

Positive intangibles:
- the UM Fab Five were iconic -- brash, young, hip-hop
- brought sad SAC to prominence
- is an engaging announcing personality

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« Reply #5180 on: April 09, 2019, 03:00:52 PM »

very good final four game. don't judge a player on one game. 

Post had an article that made it sound like Durant is coming.  ( Maybe Irving as well)

IF true and clearly that is a big if NY needs to trade guaranteed deals like Thomas and Frank to free up money to keep Jordan.

NY then make biggest leap in NBA history.

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« Reply #5181 on: April 09, 2019, 03:08:12 PM »

very good final four game. don't judge a player on one game. 

Post had an article that made it sound like Durant is coming.  ( Maybe Irving as well)

IF true and clearly that is a big if NY needs to trade guaranteed deals like Thomas and Frank to free up money to keep Jordan.

NY then make biggest leap in NBA history.

Lance Thomas can be cut and only count $1 million against the cap.   

DeAndre isn't worth losing Frank over.
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« Reply #5182 on: April 09, 2019, 04:13:09 PM »

very good final four game. don't judge a player on one game. 

Post had an article that made it sound like Durant is coming.  ( Maybe Irving as well)

IF true and clearly that is a big if NY needs to trade guaranteed deals like Thomas and Frank to free up money to keep Jordan.

NY then make biggest leap in NBA history.

Lance Thomas can be cut and only count $1 million against the cap.   

DeAndre isn't worth losing Frank over.

Nagel, to which final four game were you referring?

As it regards our offseason, I agree with Kam that letting Lance walk with his guarantee frees up more money at less cost than swapping Frank for a future draft pick. Swapping Frank for a current pick nets us even less space assuming we make the pick and sign the player. A Frank deal would have to be as much or more about the quality of the return as about any space created. I’m still bullish on him finding a sustainable offensive role that will keep him on the floor.
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« Reply #5183 on: April 09, 2019, 05:24:12 PM »

I would pay DeAndre Jordan for a two year deal up to $10 mil per year with a player option for year 2.

I think he would accept that deal. 

It pays him enough to be respectable and he gets to play with his friend KD on a stacked team.

After that contract is up after 2 years with his bird rights we could go over the cap to re-sign him.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #5184 on: April 09, 2019, 06:49:40 PM »



DeAndre isn't worth losing Frank over.

Heh
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« Reply #5185 on: April 10, 2019, 03:38:55 AM »

If you get two star FA's to sign, than DeAndretheGiant becomes much more important than neophyte Franc.   A 2/$10M is a bargain, if the money is available and he is willing.  And very trade-able.    I assume the 2nd year would be a player option.  But further assume he'd be looking for more like $10M +.  Average salary is now over $8M.


Magic disappears.
He lasted longer as an exec than he did as coach.
Putting the Lake front office in disarray just before a key Summer is questionable.  Much better if Magic was there recruiting FA's to join LBJ, and then afterwards quietly retires.  But I guess Magic doesn't do things quietly.  Likes the attention. 

I don't have a lot of criticism of individual moves, but building a team around LeBJ with lots of vets, lots of 1 year contracts, and not much outside shooting is questionable.  Of course if LeBJ didn't break down midseason, they'd likely be in the payoffs.

Magic traded Tangelo, but it was mostly to ditch Mozguy's contract, and they got Brook and a late draft pick (wisely used on Kuzma).  So a good return (maybe lucky on the pick, but luck counts).  And Tangelo not a good fit with LeBJ, and not with LeBJ and Ball.  Letting Brook go is harder to defend, since he signed for so little and had a great year in MIL.  But JaVale a reasonable substitute.  I didn't like trading Zubac for Muscala, or bringing TyC in.

Similar to the Tangelo trade, Lakes traded away Nance to move Clarkson's contract.  Which worked out since Kuzma is good.
Lakes drafted well under Magic: Ball, Kuzma, Hart, Wagner.
Fox might turn out better than Ball, but Ball still a solid pick.
Kuz & Hart nice very late 1st round picks.

Don't like the timing and suddenness of Magic bailing.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #5186 on: April 10, 2019, 03:40:23 AM »

Q: Who has the most Win Shares among Rookies this season?
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« Reply #5187 on: April 10, 2019, 05:43:01 AM »

LeBron, Ingram, Ball and Kuzma combine to play just 23 games together. L.A. goes 15-8 in those games.


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Houston will be the No. 3 seed if Denver wins and the Portland Trail Blazers lose, but a Denver win combined with a Portland win will drop Houston to No. 4, with the Blazers clinching No. 3.  Houston Rockets will get No. 2 if the Nuggets lose

Timberwolves at Nuggets
Kings at Blazers

Both should win at Home.  So Rockettes might start off with the #4 seed, meeting a hot Utah team and being in the same bracket as GS for Round 2.  Utes don't really have a Harden stopper.   Royce is strong with size.  Crowder can take some turns.  And they can funnel Harden to Gobert.  Didn't Jazz pioneer the sit on Harden's left side and force him to drive?

As #3 seed, HOU would likely meet OKC.  A tougher 1st round team than Utah, I'd say.  But you avoid 2nd round with GS.
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« Reply #5188 on: April 10, 2019, 10:59:34 AM »

Paul George drained that 3 last night like he wanted Blazers round 1.  Great play by Russ, Adams and PG off the Harden missed FT.
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« Reply #5189 on: April 10, 2019, 11:02:08 AM »

PG rained praise on Westbrook after the game. 

"This is why I came back"

If only Knicks since departed star could have inspired such emotion in league stars.

K- peeee indeed.
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