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Title: Soccer
Post by: Admin on April 15, 2007, 09:41:06 PM
Share your thoughts on the impact that the Cuauhtémoc Blanco signing will have on U.S. Soccer.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: kidcarter8 on April 26, 2007, 11:36:55 AM


Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on May 01, 2007, 08:02:01 PM
Blanco has a tendency to whine about physical contact and takes too many dives. Yes, he is a great player but past his prime and his whininess may serve as a distraction on the field.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: Harry Blaen on May 14, 2007, 11:56:25 AM
How disappointing to find the NYT forum closed, just when I wanted to post a season's end round-up.

This is where I hang nowadays, ( I wanted to say how I thought Man United's performance, or non-performance yesterday was disgusting, and how thrilled I am to see Beckham on teh cusp of a sensational farewell to La Liga, as potentially the player of the season in one of the most competitive leagues in the world. The MLS is getting a big boost when he arrives.

So where do the other irregulars post these days, the Brazilian and Argentine contingent?

Sorry if my absence aggravated the decline of the NYT forum, but let's hope this one gets going!

p.s. You may better remember me as ('phantlers')!

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thebizneverloses on May 14, 2007, 01:42:43 PM
Did you hear about the madness that ensued after Toronto FC scored their first goal over the weekend?

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: bosox18d on May 15, 2007, 02:55:07 AM
Someone actually scored a goal?

Title: Beckham
Post by: Dzimas on May 17, 2007, 02:22:40 AM
The Beckham-mania in America must really be annoying.  Seems like American soccer is banking on Beckham like they did Pele back in the 70's.  I don't think it will happen.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: bosox18d on May 17, 2007, 02:36:26 AM
He would be bigger playing in NYC.Playing for the Galaxy isn't going to do much.The Mexican natl team gets more cheers than the US natl team when they play matches in L.A.. The beautiful people who populate Laker games may hang with him but don't expect him to be anything like Wayne Gretsky who made hockey cool in L.A..Soccer already is but not with the folks with money.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: Dzimas on May 17, 2007, 10:34:04 AM
It would seem Beckham is made for LA.  I always thought he was an over-rated player.  He didn't help Real Madrid much, and he hasn't helped England's World Cup hopes much either.  I think he will remain a media phenomenon more than anything else.  He's kind of like the Anna Kournikova of soccer.

Title: Re: Soccer Champion's League UEFA
Post by: thanatopsy on May 23, 2007, 08:35:21 PM
Milan > Liverpool 2-1

For the life of me, I cannot understand why Coach Benitez kept Peter Crouch on the bench until about 78'. At the end of the match he blasted the referee for some reason (supposedly, too brief a stoppage time) when he should have blasted himself for having the wrong personnel on the field. Once Crouch got on the field, the Docker offense got rolling and they scored @ 89' with Kuyt finding the back of the net. Had he been there earlier, Jermaine Pennant's cross passes could have been far more threatening to Coach Carlo Ancellotti's defense. The ACM defense marked very tightly and protected Dida quite well. And Kaka's simulation helped set up Inzaghi's free kick that forced the Dockers to pursue from behind.

Overall, I'm disappointed in the game as Liverpool could have put up a stronger game plan.  But without Crouch in the PB, Gerrard got bottled up and they could not catch up.

Still, it was a  great game. 

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thebizneverloses on May 23, 2007, 09:13:04 PM
thant - I was wondering the same thing about Crouch, although the argument could be made that their spacing and ball movement is better without Crouch on the pitch. As it was, although Liverpool dominated the ball, I still think the best chance that did not result in a goal was when Inzaghi let the ball go through his legs as he was completely unguarded within the 18. Liverpool dodged a bullet only to get nailed 10 minutes later.

Milan certainly deserved the victory.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on May 28, 2007, 11:44:25 PM
FIDA made a new ruling on altitude limits during fixture qualifications:


"FIFA has banned international games from being played more than 2,500 metres above sea level.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter said the decision was taken Sunday after a review by the medical team for world soccer's governing body."

This will not help Latin American sides whose venues are above those limits.

Frankly, I do not see the need for this change.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 23, 2007, 03:57:13 PM
I'm much more of a hockey fan than a soccer fan, but my five year old has been playing for about a year now, so I have to either pretend, or start to actually try to get into it now...

I'll be taking him to his first (and mine) Galaxy game here soon. 

I have a sense of the flow of other major sports as a live attendee, but frankly have no clue yet as to the level of attention needed (or considered correct) in soccer.

Football and baseball have a specific cadence of talking with your friends and having to look back to watch the play at the snap or the pitch.  Baseball tends to be the most social I think as there is so little action compared to down is not uncommon to eat and talk through the hole game with only an occassional interuption.  It is almost seen as uncool to pay too close attention to the actual game (at many parks anyway).

In Basketball you get a very short break after a basket to look away and socialize before the play sets up on the other end.

I find hockey the most intense in terms of having to pay attention.  The play is so fast and can swing from one side to the other very quickly.

I used to make fun of soccer for the lack of scoring and compare it  in excitement to yacht racing.   but I do recognize that there is a lot of strategy and maneuvvering happening.  Still the pace is slower andI'm just curious to get someone's take that has actually been to several professional soccer games.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 23, 2007, 04:00:15 PM
and don't get me wrong, I love  Yacht Racing... but it's pretty easy to make fun of also...

The best joke I recall was when one writer called yacht racing the most boring spectator sport on earth.  He said "the only reason the yachts even appear to move at all is due to the phenomenon of continental drift."

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on July 12, 2007, 12:57:15 AM

Great action but no commentary here.

Yesterday's match as Brazil defeated Uruguay on PKs and tonight's Argentina's win over Mexico were exciting to say the least.  They set up what will likely be an exciting finish to the tournament on Sunday.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 13, 2007, 05:18:51 PM
Beckham arrives today I believe...

Can hardly wait to have the media flooded with speculation on what this will mean to American Soccer...

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on July 21, 2007, 11:32:04 PM
Beckham finally appeared for the LA Galaxy vs Chelsea in a ''friendly'' tonight.  Poor dude has an achy ankle and did not provide too much excitement for the home fans.  Hispanics are the majority in the LA area and they know their footy quite well.  But tonight's crowd was the ritzy high brow type who are more into fashion and being seen rather than watching an athletic contest.

Beck is more of a playmaker but is injury prone.  I don't believe that he will have too much of an impact on the game but it does appear that he will draw in some significant crowds for the MLS (at least for now).

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thebizneverloses on July 23, 2007, 03:21:18 PM
Than - more attention for the MLS is a good thing, right?

My concern is that Beckham may not be afforded the rest he needs after an arduous European season. There is incredible pressure on him to perform and to justify at least some of the attention he is receiving...

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on July 23, 2007, 10:10:36 PM
~~ a good thing ~~

Let us hope so.

The old NASL got a lot of favorable attention when Pele' entered our borders to play footy in Randall's Island back in '75. The Cosmos enjoyed considerable success  and we drew humongous crowds at East Rutherford for several years thereafter.  But because of incredibly stupid mismanagement, the Cosmos declined thanks to Chinaglia's ceaseless harping and the league folded.

Beckham is being paid a lot more than the league salary cap allows. And if he fails to produce some players on the LA side will squawk and the team's fortunes may fall as well.  That could well spell doom for the league as in the days of the NASL.

As I said, I sincerely hope that this experiment will work. Time will tell ....

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thebizneverloses on July 24, 2007, 05:06:35 PM
I just think that Beckham's on-field contribution will come in the second year, not this abbreviated summer.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: elportenito on July 26, 2007, 05:56:11 AM
Let's discuss other sports, let's discuss Pato.

Title: The Duck
Post by: thebizneverloses on July 26, 2007, 10:17:15 AM
I saw Pato play in the U-20 Fifa world cup...he was quite underwhelming in the game that I attended although he did have some success in some of the other matches. I saw him in Brazil's 2-1 loss to a quite impressive US team. Freddy Adu was suprisingly dominant in that game, although I harbour doubts on whether Adu himself will ever be big enough to play in England or Italy.

I'm curious to see how Pato fits in with Chelsea.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: kidcarter8 on July 26, 2007, 10:46:52 AM
Surprisingly dominant?  Adu in a  U20?

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thebizneverloses on July 26, 2007, 10:56:25 AM
Kid - Adu was brilliant, and I had never seen him before. My expectations were not that high as I just knew that despite all the hype, he hadn't experienced any success in the MLS, which is much weaker league than that in which many of his opponents play (especially that particular game against Brazil).

On that day, he was better than the Brazilian star Pato, who is much more highly regarded, and was recently transferred for 17 million pounds to Chelsea, one of the richest clubs in the world. No way Adu gets a 5 million pound transfer at this point.

Title: Manchester United recruits 9-year-old soccer prodigy
Post by: liquidsilver on August 02, 2007, 07:24:33 PM

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on August 12, 2007, 08:46:12 PM
USA girls defeat New Zealand: 6-1

Not much of a contest as the Kiwis were overmatched. Perhaps the latter should begin their matches with a haka as do the All Blacks rugby squad.

Kamate, kamate ... kora, kora ....

USA girls look quite good as their team concept is splendid and they continually push the spheroid forward.  Germany again looks tough.

Should be a good WC next month. Sad to say, though, was that the crowd was awfully small --- where's the enthusiasm for our team???

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on September 02, 2007, 08:57:17 AM
Looks as if Becks is out for the remainder of the MLS season.  :'(

Hopefully, he'll be back next season in better condition.

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on September 14, 2007, 04:23:09 PM
I woke up at about 4:00 AM and watched our girls defeat Sweden 2-0 in the Women's WC soccer.

Gosh! Those Swedish girls are so cute that it is very difficult to root against them.  It sure is a good thing they didn't bring any cheerleaders or many Yanks would sell out and root for them!!

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 05, 2007, 01:52:08 PM

The coach of USA women's team was terminated - ostensibly for not playing the best goalie...

Big hub bub that’s for sure…

Title: Re: Soccer
Post by: thanatopsy on March 17, 2008, 04:43:08 PM
Tommy Smyth is  Grand Marshall in the St Patrick's Day Parade!!