Testing, testing, 1...2...yankees suck....
Good win. Snaps L streak. Shoulda been a sweep.
Next time.
One of the leaders, and certainly for the pitching staff. Believe it or not, the kid Hoskins is the leader in that young clubhouse.Good win. Snaps L streak. Shoulda been a sweep.
Next time.
Arrietta is clearly Phils leader.
They say you cant lead from an every fifth day situation, but its worked in the past with some teams.
So...
30-32
For week - -$70.
I wonder if Evvie felt any compassion with the Nats humiliation of the Mets last night.
Yanks still need [A STUD] starter...
Resilience.
The capacity to recover quickly from difficulties; toughness.
The key to winning the marathon that is a baseball season.
JOSH -
Just a heads up....
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Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
I don't remember the earlier game, but Pedro was Pedro and when he threw a game like that, while it was appreciated it was not quite as surprising as seeing "Cy" Porcello do it.
A lovely game to see. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
The Red Sox’ powerful lineup, which leads the majors in OPS (.796) is a tough first assignment in the big leagues for any pitcher, let alone one making his big league debut.
Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
I don't remember the earlier game, but Pedro was Pedro and when he threw a game like that, while it was appreciated it was not quite as surprising as seeing "Cy" Porcello do it.
A lovely game to see. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
The Pedro game was the best game I've ever seen a pitcher pitch, with the Chili Davis hr (RF-yankee stadium) the only hit Pedro gave up that night.
17ks no walks.plunked Knobby.
Porcello not nearly as overpowering, but very efficient, and just throwing strikes.
real nice game.
The New York Daily News made this observation about Chase Adams' start tomorrow at Fenway:QuoteThe Red Sox’ powerful lineup, which leads the majors in OPS (.796) is a tough first assignment in the big leagues for any pitcher, let alone one making his big league debut.
Their editors must work in the Department of Redundancy Department.
Los Angeles has the best baseball team, the Dodgers, the best basketball team, the Lakers, and the best football team, the Rams.
And the best new boxers are coming from California.
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Salute,
Tony V.
Yanks need to do everything now to set up for the wild card game, including figuring out who they want to pitch
Right now without any doubt it is TANAKA, if they are thinking straight
I'm excited to see ADAMS, who I would have taken as a Met - today.
Who questioned that trade? Heh.
You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
Actually, I guess we'll never know. Troll.
Perhaps you can find it on my Twitter account.
You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
Say what, Cash?
https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/red-sox-send-message-yankees-brian-cashman (https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/red-sox-send-message-yankees-brian-cashman)
White Sox, Astros, Twins, A's. Phils, Mariners all play Sox tougher this year than NY
You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
I thought the Red Sox needed Eovaldi.
Didn't you?
What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
Actually, I guess we'll never know. Troll.
Perhaps you can find it on my Twitter account.
I always acknowledge and reject that argument. I don't think any team is good enough and wise enough to focus on another team's needs at the expense of their own.What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
I agree the Ys did not need Britton, they needed a starter, just like they did before the season started, so I assumed a part of Cashman's reasoning for acquiring a guy they did not need (Britton) and could afford, was to keep a needed asset from his competitors.
I do not recall you stating it was a compelling argument, but I do not possess perfect recall.
I always acknowledge and reject that argument. I don't think any team is good enough and wise enough to focus on another team's needs at the expense of their own.What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
I agree the Ys did not need Britton, they needed a starter, just like they did before the season started, so I assumed a part of Cashman's reasoning for acquiring a guy they did not need (Britton) and could afford, was to keep a needed asset from his competitors.
I do not recall you stating it was a compelling argument, but I do not possess perfect recall.
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Now I'm confused, you've said you found it a compelling argument and now one you reject.
But I agree focusing on your own team's needs, and addressing them is a simpler and more effective strategy than to try and out-maneuver what an oppponent may do.
But I also think Cashman feels he's playing chess while everyone else is playing with themselves.
The compelling part of the argument is "look how good the Sox would be with Britton. We have to do something to stop it." The rejection is "let the Sox have him. Let's get what we need."
The compelling part of the argument is "look how good the Sox would be with Britton. We have to do something to stop it." The rejection is "let the Sox have him. Let's get what we need."
Eovaldi's first impression with his new team has been about as good as possible. He hasn't allowed a run over 15 innings in his first two starts for the Sox. The last time a starting pitcher was unscored upon in his first two starts for Boston? Vaughn Eshelman, who did it in 1995.
https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544 (https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544)
https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544 (https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544)
Whew - this one's on Cora.
Price needed to be done on the Gardy single.
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
They got 3 closers.
As you might have noticed in this series they needed a starter more.
Or maybe you didn't
Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
They got 3 closers.
As you might have noticed in this series they needed a starter more.
Or maybe you didn't
I was agreeing and teasing Kiid.
Uh oh.
The Yankees have trimmed the lead down to 9 and they still have two games in hand!
Beat me to it.Uh oh.
The Yankees have trimmed the lead down to 9 and they still have two games in hand!
1978.
heh
'78 was a great season, and a great race, and has become the St. Jude of baseball seasons to some to pray to.
But it was more like a crucible preparing the soul for the real trying times like '86 and '03
fwiw I and most other sportsfans call upon Saint '04 when the night is at its darkest and the task at hand seemingly impossible
I think I read the intended purpose into "1978" accurately and and responded appropriately.
I think I read the intended purpose into "1978" accurately and and responded appropriately.
No. You didn't.
You fucked up.
And now that you know the intent behind the original post, you try to save face.
You haven't won shit, yet, so calm down.
John Axford, a dreadful pitcher, had 46 saves one season. Finding a closer shouldn't be that hard.
I'm not sure I said that proven good closers are available, but rather guys become good closers out of a sense of desperation all the time.
Delusional banks showing he's worried Bosox will blow up in post season. Little early for that kind of panic.
Heh
Talk about being misunderstood!I thought his name was Grady.
My comment was harkening back to the mindset of Bostonians everywhere when we knew our team could and would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
When every minor issue was proof that Chicken Little was right!
It was one year ago today that Rhys Hoskins left triple-A Lehigh Valley and joined the Phillies for a four-game series at Citizens Bank Park against the New York Mets. He went 1 for 13 in that first series. Things, of course, improved in a hurry as he hit 18 home runs in his next 30 games to become the fastest player to 18 home runs in major-league history.
In his first calendar year of Major League Baseball, Hoskins has hit .258 with 35 doubles, 40 home runs, 120 RBIs, and a .918 OPS. His big-league career did not start until he was 24, but it’s still fun to compare his first calendar year to some of the other active stars in the game.
Here’s a look at how Hoskins compares to five of the game’s premier sluggers:
Player G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB K BA OBP SLG OPS
Rhys Hoskins 155 551 101 142 35 40 120 103 153 .257 .379 .539 .918
Aaron Judge 138 478 97 129 16 39 88 94 194 .270 .394 .523 .967
Bryce Harper 162 616 115 175 31 31 77 68 133 .284 .356 .518 .874
Giancarlo Stanton 156 552 78 142 34 35 92 58 181 .257 .332 .520 .852
Mookie Betts 126 480 71 133 29 13 52 45 67 .277 .341 .440 .781
Nolan Arenado 159 590 63 161 35 14 66 26 85 .273 .303 .417 .720
Note: Mike Trout was not included because he started the 2012 season in the minors after making his major-league debut in July 2011, and that tainted his sample size.
It was one year ago today that Rhys Hoskins left triple-A Lehigh Valley and joined the Phillies for a four-game series at Citizens Bank Park against the New York Mets. He went 1 for 13 in that first series. Things, of course, improved in a hurry as he hit 18 home runs in his next 30 games to become the fastest player to 18 home runs in major-league history.
In his first calendar year of Major League Baseball, Hoskins has hit .258 with 35 doubles, 40 home runs, 120 RBIs, and a .918 OPS. His big-league career did not start until he was 24, but it’s still fun to compare his first calendar year to some of the other active stars in the game.
Here’s a look at how Hoskins compares to five of the game’s premier sluggers:
Player G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB K BA OBP SLG OPS
Rhys Hoskins 155 551 101 142 35 40 120 103 153 .257 .379 .539 .918
Aaron Judge 138 478 97 129 16 39 88 94 194 .270 .394 .523 .967
Bryce Harper 162 616 115 175 31 31 77 68 133 .284 .356 .518 .874
Giancarlo Stanton 156 552 78 142 34 35 92 58 181 .257 .332 .520 .852
Mookie Betts 126 480 71 133 29 13 52 45 67 .277 .341 .440 .781
Nolan Arenado 159 590 63 161 35 14 66 26 85 .273 .303 .417 .720
Note: Mike Trout was not included because he started the 2012 season in the minors after making his major-league debut in July 2011, and that tainted his sample size.
With thanks to Bob Brookover:
http://philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/rhys-hoskins-has-40-hrs-after-one-calendar-year-in-majors-extra-innings-20180810.html (http://philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/rhys-hoskins-has-40-hrs-after-one-calendar-year-in-majors-extra-innings-20180810.html)
So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
Look at the BB's, R, and RBI.
So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
Look at the BB's, R, and RBI.
0 HR last 16 games of 2017
0 HR last 10 thus far this year
Tiiiiiireeeed.
Beckham is an atrocious shortstop.
You SUCK, Tendi!
You SUCK, Tendi!
How did Benny hurt you kid?
10D is top 10 OPS, top 15 WAR, and you think he sucks?
Did you find out his people chain-migrated?
its funny I stick a toe in the water, and the dumb fuck troll shows up.
TFF
or it would be if he wasn't an indecent stalker
Sox play day/nighter in B'more could be a long day made longer by rain/lightening, and neither team has a BP after last night..I'm going with my daughter to the night game. Left field nose bleeds. It sounds like the rain might be a hit or miss thing.
Sox play day/nighter in B'more could be a long day made longer by rain/lightening, and neither team has a BP after last night..I'm going with my daughter to the night game. Left field nose bleeds. It sounds like the rain might be a hit or miss thing.
Gonna need somebody if Sale is not ok.
Even 4th playoff starter, if needed, is up for grabs.
- this in response to the Wright post
So......................appears that on the days MLB Network has Yanks scheduled as their main game - we dont get an alternate game (today it could be Sox-O's so I can see Price pitch) - although when an out of town game IS scheduled for MLB Network we SEE IT even when a local game is running opposite on another network
A semi-blackout rule, I suppose.
So I will be seeing reruns of whatever on MLB while Sox play, forced to watch the LynnYanks take revenge on TX.
OY!
The full package, by the way, rest of the year, is just 59 bucks if anyone is interested.
This is very odd. I'm now both Yankguy and Yankguy1. And "Yankguy1" ignored my latest "Yankguy" post. Strange. I'll stick with Yankguy1, but if push comes to shove I'll go with "Bluestateward" or "ESPN+".
I presume that Sale was taken out for purely precautionary reasons, after coming off the DL.
I hope that was why!
Maybe we will get a Phils update today.
heh
looking forward to deGrom-Severino/Better Call Saul twinbill tonight
looking forward to deGrom-Severino/Better Call Saul twinbill tonight
Twinbill?
Todays quiz:I imagine Ruth is the easy one and also that he did that more than twice.
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
Norm Cash is my guess from those unmentioned.
I figured Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, and Bonds.
George Brett would be a long shot.
Rogers Hornsby?
Todays quiz:
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
Cobb might have snuck in.
.650 slugging. He was .029 short in 1911.Cobb might have snuck in.
And did - not even sneaking.
.420 .467 .621
47 doubles, 4 triples, 8 homers
I would bet the Williams, Mantle and Bonds are also on that list.
.650 slugging. He was .029 short in 1911.Cobb might have snuck in.
And did - not even sneaking.
.420 .467 .621
47 doubles, 4 triples, 8 homers
Nap Lajoie?
That was a career year along the lines of a Brady Anderson career year. Expansion = peds?
That was a career year along the lines of a Brady Anderson career year. Expansion = peds?Cork.
Kimbrel makes an interesting game a little more interesting
good game
Todays quiz:
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
ataboy
https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html)
In other words, the Red Sox are the personification of Betts, who is threatening to join an elite group: Players who have finished a season with at least a .350 batting average, a .425 on-base percentage and a .650 slugging percentage. The last to do it was Albert Pujols and before that Barry Bonds. Others include Babe Ruth (eight times), Lou Gehrig, Rogers Hornsby, Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, George Brett, Stan Musial, Joe DiMaggio and, of course, Larry Walker twice.
Never did like Passan (though in fairness he did say "including")
Oh well - gave you idiots something to do
Who said that?
Scherzer is close to "Pedro in his prime" territory.
I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.That's how I read it and why I didn't mention the 2001 Mariners.
I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.That's how I read it and why I didn't mention the 2001 Mariners.
I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.1995 Indians. 100 wins in 144 games. Shut down in the World.Series by umpires deliberately expanding the strike.zones for Maddux and Glavine just to spite me
I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.
You SUCK, Tendi!
If one believes in such things there must be a nice reunion taking place in heaven with Duane Allman.
Diamondbacks 5, Padres 1: If you placed money on “Some time in 2018 Clay Buchholz will pitch a complete game, allowing only one run on five hits, getting the win for a playoff contending team” before the season began you would’ve been arrested for suspected time-traveling and/or placed in a rubber room so you could not do any harm to others or to yourself. Yet it happened. He got five runs of support in the first inning, thanks in part to a David Peralta three-run homer, and other than allowing a Hunter Renfroe solo shot in the eighth, he was lights-out. Not too bad for a guy everyone thought was burnt toast not too long ago.
its the dry-heat.
its the dry-heat.
It's the heat, not the humility?
QuoteDiamondbacks 5, Padres 1: If you placed money on “Some time in 2018 Clay Buchholz will pitch a complete game, allowing only one run on five hits, getting the win for a playoff contending team” before the season began you would’ve been arrested for suspected time-traveling and/or placed in a rubber room so you could not do any harm to others or to yourself. Yet it happened. He got five runs of support in the first inning, thanks in part to a David Peralta three-run homer, and other than allowing a Hunter Renfroe solo shot in the eighth, he was lights-out. Not too bad for a guy everyone thought was burnt toast not too long ago.
Speaking of resilience.
I'm glad for Clay, but I sure wonder what changed for him! Maybe the heat of the spotlights in Boston and Philly was too much, but with nobody paying attention in AZ, he's thriving?
An A's- Phillies World Series...now, there's something to ask the baseball gods to bring us all!
What Fall Classic would be complete without a football field lined out on the diamond?
Pop-up to the 30-yard line--can the SS call for a fair catch?
Save Billy Hamilton, Bader on the Cardinals might be the fastest player in baseball. He's a blur.
Save Billy Hamilton, Bader on the Cardinals might be the fastest player in baseball. He's a blur.
Have you seen the Mighty Roman Quinn, yet?
Today's quiz (not given by Jeff Passan)
12 players have spend their entire career with the same MLB team, minimum ten big league seasons
Now give me the top 5, based on number of years
Today's quiz (not given by Jeff Passan)
12 players have spend their entire career with the same MLB team, minimum ten big league seasons
Now give me the top 5, based on number of years
Today's quiz (not given by Jeff Passan)
12 players have spend their entire career with the same MLB team, minimum ten big league seasons
Now give me the top 5, based on number of years
Now I know the correct answer.
And your number is wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Unless you meant to include the word "active" in your post, of course.
just 12 guys on the same team for 10+ years can't be right.
Sox LF from 1939-1989 take up 3 spots.
just 12 guys on the same team for 10+ years can't be right.
Sox LF from 1939-1989 take up 3 spots.
Like I said - he has to have meant active players. That way, while it is more than 12, 12 would be close.
current players........
Need 12
then a top 5
Bauer is already throwing.We can afford to wait on him, just.get him tuned up.
I will say mid September if not sooner
One of my current favorites. Great back story.
Alexei Ramirez?
Price with another great outing.
8 innings 3 hit 7ks 0 BBs
totally in control
I think Ryan Zimmerman is one of the missing quiz answers. Surprised you all missed that one.
Lots of good NL story lines. Sorry to see Nats lose yesterday. That was pivotal. But still plenty alive.
0I think Ryan Zimmerman is one of the missing quiz answers. Surprised you all missed that one.
Lots of good NL story lines. Sorry to see Nats lose yesterday. That was pivotal. But still plenty alive.
Here, let me help.
I saw Zimmerman, after I had already posted my choices.
0I think Ryan Zimmerman is one of the missing quiz answers. Surprised you all missed that one.
Lots of good NL story lines. Sorry to see Nats lose yesterday. That was pivotal. But still plenty alive.
Here, let me help.
I saw Zimmerman, after I had already posted my choices.
Help?
most kids add muscle and pounds as they grew into their bodies.
As you mature from kid to adult you may experience that change.
And my hope is that you stop worrying about winning every fucking game
As long as Shane Robinson and Neil Walker are getting regular OF time, I'm not willing to run with a 1978 comparison. Yet.
No doubt. Those things are unpredictable. What's more concerning to me is the length of time it's taking you to post J.D. Martinez' Instagram musings. You're losing whatever fastball you had left.
Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
No argument.Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
But he is choosy as to who grabs him.
The Hamels trade the Cubs made was the bigger move, I think.
Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
Joey Bats claimed by Phils.
https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html)
We'll see.Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
Bryant's back this week
Joey Bats claimed by Phils.
https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html)
....but Mets playing hardball - want a half decent prospect
I'm not sure you can win uglier than that.
but
AWINZAWIN
Nola is brilliant. He throws any pitch in any count in any situation. Remarkable.
That said, the Phillies aren't ready yet. They play terrible defense, run the bases poorly and have a crummy bullpen. Tonight Kapler has to stay with a clearly gassed Nola.
obsssesion has taken hold of the clueless troll.
obsssesion has taken hold of the clueless troll.
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
As you said, Mr. Utley, Roman Quinn can fly.
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
Congratulations. You named one reactionary (I don't know enough to claim he is a fascist, but he may be), one bigot, out and out, and one pro-gun person who was misinformed about the Hitler quote and policies.
And one "etc" without any substance to it.
I could make the same claim about the Phillies, with Ben Chapman, Jim Bunning, and Mike Schmidt. Mostly, players have the wisdom to not put their politics out in the public eye.
Ben Chapman stained the team while he was with it. Bunning and Schmidt did not.
And, of course, we both shared Jonathan "Obama wants to take our guns" Papelbon.
Your comment was horseshit.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html)
to the arguably greatest hitter who ever lived
*
Bonds - as a Giant - vs tougher pitching - .477
The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
Congratulations. You named one reactionary (I don't know enough to claim he is a fascist, but he may be), one bigot, out and out, and one pro-gun person who was misinformed about the Hitler quote and policies.
And one "etc" without any substance to it.
I could make the same claim about the Phillies, with Ben Chapman, Jim Bunning, and Mike Schmidt. Mostly, players have the wisdom to not put their politics out in the public eye.
Ben Chapman stained the team while he was with it. Bunning and Schmidt did not.
And, of course, we both shared Jonathan "Obama wants to take our guns" Papelbon.
Your comment was horseshit.
Fenway, a "Whites Only" park, is not only hitter friendly, with J.D. Martinez on the team, it's Hitler Friendly!
another bolt of late inning lightening for the visiting Sox.
nice to see Mookie hitting again
heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.
I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.You just root for these things, seemingly.
heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
Red?
just another of your weak non-rebuttals to a discussion you were lost in
LOL
And it always ends the same way
SSDD
heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
Red?
just another of your weak non-rebuttals to a discussion you were lost in
LOL
And it always ends the same way
SSDD
What's the same every time is your complaining after your assessment has been kicked to the curb once again. Which it was.
Why would I root for this?I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.You just root for these things, seemingly.
heh
Pretty good SS Yanks gave up. Look forward to seeing him succeed Crawford.
Look at bankshit chase his own tale.
Dude can't handle defeat.
No Grady Little to blame fir his stupidity.
Ha!
Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html)
to the arguably greatest hitter who ever lived
Happy 100th Ted
nice article by Shaughnessy
They should say hello, Willie would say "Hey", to the greatest hitter in the game on the anniversary 100th birthday
Agree on Mays
Disagree on Aaron
IMO Williams and Ruth were the best hitters
then maybe Gehrig, Bonds* Foxx, Aaron
How hard is it raining?
Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
Ruth was not the focus of the discussion.
But I generally agree with your post.
Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
Ruth was not the focus of the discussion.
But I generally agree with your post.
I wasn't wasting my breath arguing with Utley. He knows better, but it doesn't matter - he came here for an argument. Or just a contradiction of anything you say (almost). Or abuse.
I was belatedly disagreeing with Mays, which both of you (whomever the other one was).
Ruth never had to hit Koufax or Gibson or Drysdale. Aaron.
You lose again.
This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
Figures the Boston Cartel would work this hard to defend the Whites Only Era of baseball.
Aaron. Better hitter than Williams. Played in tougher league, tougher era. Third in all-time hits, Williams 77th. First in all-time Homers presteroid and body armor era.
The best hitters hit. Aaron had the most hits of anyone you've mentioned
You lose, again.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
and the troll unintentionally proves the obvious point, as he knows little of the game.
Singles hitters are just not in the conversation for "greatest hitters".
Figures the Boston Cartel would work this hard to defend the Whites Only Era of baseball.
Aaron. Better hitter than Williams. Played in tougher league, tougher era. Third in all-time hits, Williams 77th. First in all-time Homers presteroid and body armor era.
The best hitters hit. Aaron had the most hits of anyone you've mentioned
You lose, again.
An irrelevant argument for Ruth.
An erroneous argument for Williams. Spin it any way you want to. If Aaron had been the Boston player and Williams played elsewhere, you would be defending Williams, pointing out that he went to war, twice, slugged and hit better, etc. Whatever, Utley.
A waste of perfectly good used electrons.
But you're only slightly more likely than Red to admit being wrong. (Or should I call him E in here?)
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
and the troll unintentionally proves the obvious point, as he knows little of the game.
Singles hitters are just not in the conversation for "greatest hitters".
Since when was Hank Aaron a singled hitter?
LOL
Williams doesn't show up at all on that list.
And for total hits career? Aaron is third. Williams???
Well, well out of the running.
Because truly great hitters like Aaron hit for power, and they have 200+ hit seasons.
In other words, to be a great hitters...get hits.
Back to your barstool, you've lost another.
Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.In 4500 more abs.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
Yet surprisingly for all the reasons given, most observers rank Ruth and Williams #1/2 when ranking the greatest hitters in the game.
So back to the gutter troll, and own your latest humiliation.
Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.In 4500 more abs.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
Yet surprisingly for all the reasons given, most observers rank Ruth and Williams #1/2 when ranking the greatest hitters in the game.
So back to the gutter troll, and own your latest humiliation.
A lot of people eat at McDonald's. Doesn't mean it's good food.
And Mays was better than Williams, too.
And neither Willie or Henry could hide being black, but the Spoiled Splinter HUD being brown.
Beatings will continue.
See ya, loser!
200 hit seasons.
Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.In 4500 more abs.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
HEH
page not found (404 Error).
So typical of the troll.
As is his continued misunderstanding that William's, a classic pull hitter, and subject to the first shift (Boudreau) against his pull-power, played half his games in the ballpark with a one of the biggest right-fields and did not play to his stubborn strengths.
In fact, in a well known story, in 1947, Tom Yawkey and Yankee owner Dan Topping, met at Toots Shor's and over several cocktails agreed to trade Williams for Joe D, with the thought of the reunting the Dimaggio brothers in Boston with Joe attacking the Monster while Williams would take advantage of Yankee Stadium's short-porch in right and resume where Ruth had left off.
Sober heads and presumably coffee prevailed the following morning, and the trade never happened.
And the real band box is in Philly, but its not lyric, as there is no music nor charm, its just a small ballpark, built for small-minded dolts.
This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
HEH
page not found (404 Error).
So typical of the troll.
As is his continued misunderstanding that William's, a classic pull hitter, and subject to the first shift (Boudreau) against his pull-power, played half his games in the ballpark with a one of the biggest right-fields and did not play to his stubborn strengths.
In fact, in a well known story, in 1947, Tom Yawkey and Yankee owner Dan Topping, met at Toots Shor's and over several cocktails agreed to trade Williams for Joe D, with the thought of the reunting the Dimaggio brothers in Boston with Joe attacking the Monster while Williams would take advantage of Yankee Stadium's short-porch in right and resume where Ruth had left off.
Sober heads and presumably coffee prevailed the following morning, and the trade never happened.
And the real band box is in Philly, but its not lyric, as there is no music nor charm, its just a small ballpark, built for small-minded dolts.
No, he's right - Ted hit far better at home than away:
I BA OBP SLG OPS
Home .361 .496 .652 1.148
Away .328 .467 .615 1.082
Aaron was about the same home and away, overall (and not bothering to compare Milwaukee vs. Atlanta)
I BA OBP SLG OPS
Home .303 .379 .557 .936
Away .306 .369 .552 .921
But Ted Williams' weaker performance still blows Aaron's performances away. Or home.
Sox keep rollin'
nothing flashy good night for Pearce and Porcello and pen
just played some good hard-ball.
in a year of strange and compelling games that one might be the game of the year
and today Brandon Phillip's became a Rd Sox
in a year of strange and compelling games that one might be the game of the year
and today Brandon Phillip's became a Rd Sox
That was a stunning game in so many ways.
Wow.
Wow. Look who's number two: http://highheatstats.blogspot.com/2012/01/50-most-overrated-batters-in-baseball.html (http://highheatstats.blogspot.com/2012/01/50-most-overrated-batters-in-baseball.html)
And guess who's not on the list?
You lost again. Sorry you can't handle the truth.
You lost again. Sorry you can't handle the truth.
The beatings will continue...
Of course, in 15 or so years, you have yet to understand the game.
Heh
Its 7-0 in the 5th, and if the Ys CFBW it, they will steal win of the day from the Sox.
I'll have to be surprised by the score in the AM.
You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
It's probably true.
He's trying to traffic in facts and reason.
You're just stirring the pot to get a reaction.
Different games. But since he doesn't care about losing yours and you don't care about losing his, it makes the interchange even stupider.
You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
It's probably true.
He's trying to traffic in facts and reason.
You're just stirring the pot to get a reaction.
Different games. But since he doesn't care about losing yours and you don't care about losing his, it makes the interchange even stupider.
Still winning.
same old lame tricks, Utley.
Sometimes I wonder why I ever worried about you when I thought you were suicidal.
Asshold.
Wow.
I think you should delete this. Please.
same old lame tricks, Utley.
Sometimes I wonder why I ever worried about you when I thought you were suicidal.
Asshold.
Locus of control in action.
Wow.
I think you should delete this. Please.
Okay.
that was a pretty good game in a pretty decent series that felt like play-off ball.
that was a pretty good game in a pretty decent series that felt like play-off ball.
A little heart-pounding.
While not the weekend series I might have hoped for, effective overall.
Not sure I liked the call on the play at the plate.
Yeah...AL playoffs will be awesome this year, whether we see A's or Yanks joining Astros and Indians.
Had my +250 bet on HOU from preseason so I will stay with that.
Sox with some late inning lightning notch win #99
last time Sox won 99 games was in '78.
its funny considering I've watched this game for over 60 years that from time to time I still see something I've never seen before.
Perhaps you had seen it before. I thought you were a younger man.
Perhaps you had seen it before. I thought you were a younger man.
I was a younger man.
Now I'm not.
The 100th win?
Sox 55 games over for first tome in 106 years.
Congrats to the Red Sox on a great season. That World Championship is becoming the norm at Fenway, isn't it?
Wait.
The season's not over?
No playoff games have been played?
Okay.
Well congrats for making the playoffs, despite the weak division, of course.
True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.
or the most famous example 1954 Indians.I will gladly trade last year's win streak for Houston's rings.
But the premise its "only flags count: is BS.
Most of us are watch and enjoy a sports where our teams rarely win a championship.
but we keep on watching, knowing there is only a modest chance of a champioship.
IMO its the game, skills, real drama, unscripted suspense and the sport.
The flag is a bonus.
it's a.thin line between stupid and clever. I had me a brain fart in memory of the late, great Ray Oyler.True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
The team that won the 2001 World Series didn't beat the 116 game winning Mariners. The team that lost that World Series did.
it's a.thin line between stupid and clever. I had me a brain fart in memory of the late, great Ray Oyler.True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
Maybe. But I think that because the Yankees were going for their 4th WS in a row that season (and 5th of 6), I think most baseball fans remember well that it was them that knocked the Mariners off.But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
The team that won the 2001 World Series didn't beat the 116 game winning Mariners. The team that lost that World Series did.
Good point. Oops!
But nobody knows who that was, either, the vast bulk of the time.
The Mariners are more deeply embedded in our memories.
Well....
I think what Utley means is
CONGRATS for making 100 wins a thing.
Yawn.
Its flags that count.
Well....
I think what Utley means is
CONGRATS for making 100 wins a thing.
Yawn.
Its flags that count.
It don't mean a thing, if you don't get that ring!
Not the single most captivating performance by a Red Sox team this year.
Trust me - check out til Monday
GLS starting early this fall.
You bet PITCHERS and consider hot/cold offenses and home/away.
Mets are hot - but lose the other 2. Better spots for my cash.
I do figure Oswalt to be able to navigate the first inning. Thus a small bet there at even money.
GLS starting early this fall.
Oh?
You're blaming Kapler for the Phillies' implosion?
Mets fans in force at Fenway
they all were away blue colored coordinated
it was nice
as was the bipartisan chanting in the 8th
heh
JBJ got jobbed
but alls well that ends well
good win
Bogaerts another off day
Frozen computer prevented this before game time, but...
my prediction for today is that the Red Sox score more than 3 runs against DeGrom.
Trust me - check out til Monday
Nola has cooled off a bit, I think, and if it's about stats I think Scherzer got the edge everywhere (last I checked and I could be way off there). If it's about the incredibly subjective "who's a better pitcher" test I think Scherzer still has the edge.
Shoe on other foot, Dems bury itWrong thread, dummy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/keith-ellison-domestic-violence-accuser-says-democratic-party-doesnt-believe-her-story.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/keith-ellison-domestic-violence-accuser-says-democratic-party-doesnt-believe-her-story.html)
Pitchers duel in the Bronx.
now that's was a helluva way to clinch the division
Congrats to Sox fans.
Congrats to Sox fans.
Congrats to Sox fans.
Thanks - you're more than likely to get into the post-season, yourselves, so it is quite unclear that the Sox have seen the last of the Yankees for 2018.
pretty good game
deGrom is good, but I'm not sure if I'd vote him NL CY.
Who in history?
30 2b
35 hr
100 runs
100 rbi
125 bb
for a season.
Sorry - you are one HR short :)
Even your insults are stupid.No insult. He was just pointing out what a sharp guy you are.
Sorry - you are one HR short :)
And 11 more runs produced. But I chose a simpler year.
The best thing about your example was the even 100 runs and ribbies.
Sorry - you are one HR short :)
And 11 more runs produced. But I chose a simpler year.
The best thing about your example was the even 100 runs and ribbies.
All numbers should of course have a + after them.
IIRC my preseason picks for the series was Astros-(Nats or LADs-don't remember which), with Astros repeating.I have all my picks saved somewhere. I will repost them, though it may take me until the end of October to find them. I expect uncanny accuracy.
Pretty sure I had
AL div winners
Sox
Tribe
Astros
WC-Yankees (don't remember 2nd team, maybe Seattle)
NL
Nats
Cubs
LADs
WC-don't remember
Still think Astros should be favored.
Preseason picks are cool, if you want to go back (we all had WAS, CHI, LA - I am sure)
But picks this coming Monday - after we have the teams all set - would be a nice contest (number of games per series as a bonus)
I will post mine if I remember
(FTR, I believe I had a HOU repeat - over Cubs - but could have been over Nats)
- Still mulling a +240 Cubs bet for the NL title. Worried about their bullpen. Staying way away in the AL. thoug best looking $$ would be CLE
If my math is correct, if Boston wins out and Baltimore loses out, Baltimore will set a Modern Era record by finishing 66 games back, beating the 1909 Boston Doves by half a game, and the AL record 1939 St. Louis Browns 64.5 by 1.5 games. The playoff era record - Detroit 2003, a measly 47 GB? Shattered.Well piss on that. Thanks a lot, Red Sox.
The all time record, set by the egregious Cleveland Spiders in 1899 - 84 GB - is out of reach. Better luck next year, Orioles!
Almost makes me want to root for the Red Sox for the rest of the year.
Dodgers looked pretty solid. Braves did not.
Awinzawin.
And I'll take it, especially given the dire predictions for the day.
Stanton's 9th inning at-"bat" might go down in history as the worst ever.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Steven_Wright_1994.jpg/220px-Steven_Wright_1994.jpg)
Sore knee to sideline Steven Wright for ALDS
GLS . Begin.
Pedro had every right to be in that game, but maybe Grady should have let Martinez take himself out - and risk his legacy that way.
heh
Price was hooked quickly - as was Happ - sign of the times.
When the great are tasked to BE GREAT and it doesnt work out............ kill the manager/coach.
Its sports. Pedro gave it up that day. Makes him no less the hero. Could just have easily have NOT gotten beat.
Now - about McMamara pulling Schiraldi........
I stay with my ace at 5-2. Into the NINTH - you have a case - but not with six outs left - and like with the 1986 Buckner situation - Red Sox fans' SURETY that we'd have won had Pedro been removed - is irrational.
Red Sox hitters will tell you they should have scored more than 1 run in innings 5-11 vs the likes of Mussina, Heredia, Nelson, Wells and a (supposedly) tiring Rivera. And one really has to wonder - what the hell was Mariano doing in there up to 48 pitches?
heh
What was "his job"?
Who pitches the eighth and who closes?
What was "his job"?
Who pitches the eighth and who closes?
Seriously?
Re-read my posts, its all there.
or check the box scores from the 3 Sox wins in that series.
What was "his job"?
Who pitches the eighth and who closes?
Seriously?
Re-read my posts, its all there.
or check the box scores from the 3 Sox wins in that series.
I knew you wouldnt answer
Yanks had Nick Johnsonleading off, then it was the heart of the lineup.
Give me the moves.
Most important - who closes? Wakefield?
Ir wasnt a good bullpen that year. Not sure why you remember it as such.
Kid knows things.
What was "his job"?
Who pitches the eighth and who closes?
Seriously?
Re-read my posts, its all there.
or check the box scores from the 3 Sox wins in that series.
I think a good guess sees Nick Johnson get on vs Timlin, then we are in the soup anyway with Jeter up, Giambi looming later that inning.
Well, you had the adoring masses and (eventual series) results on your side.
Congrats - and watch out for that peel in the future.....
Hall of Famer
Wanted the ball
There's your logic, dickie.
Angel is what 1 for 5 tonight?
tough nite
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
Hey Banks -
Notice any posts making fun of Benintendi tonight?
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
GLS.
Graceless.
Still haven't won anything, douchebags.
I think when all is said and done a baseball manager really has one thing to do: knowing when to pull a pitcher.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
GLS.
Now that's a rejoinder Red State Ward would envy.
Brief, meaningless, and largely irrelevant to the discussion.
Most baseball fans, pundits, kibbitzers, basically anyone with an understanding of the game, understand the 2nd guess as a part of the baseball experience.
But for reasons unknown, you don't.
SSDD
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
GLS.
Now that's a rejoinder Red State Ward would envy.
Brief, meaningless, and largely irrelevant to the discussion.
Most baseball fans, pundits, kibbitzers, basically anyone with an understanding of the game, understand the 2nd guess as a part of the baseball experience.
But for reasons unknown, you don't.
SSDD
GLS...and the game isn't over, yet:
https://www.mlb.com/news/cc-sabathia-struggles-in-game-4-of-alds/c-297518200 (https://www.mlb.com/news/cc-sabathia-struggles-in-game-4-of-alds/c-297518200)
Sabathia left the game after allowing three runs on five hits and two walks, striking out one batter and hitting another. With their season on the line, the Yankees went to their bullpen to open the fourth, but some will surely wonder whether Boone should have had a quicker hook in an elimination game.
Poor sports.
Bottom line, you lose because the other team was better.
You couldn't handle losing and blamed Grady Little, and this guy and others can't handle losing, and are already blaming Boone.
Sad.
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
Hechevarria has to tag on that
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
Better team won that series.
Hechevarria has to tag on that
The fly to left?
He would have been a dead duck at 3rd.
And the easy 2nd guess was why was Severino pitching in the 4th, he had nothing last night.
And Booney's is rightly catching heat for the late hook on Severino and his choice to put out fire with the gas of Lynn.
heh
GLS.
Now that's a rejoinder Red State Ward would envy.
Brief, meaningless, and largely irrelevant to the discussion.
Most baseball fans, pundits, kibbitzers, basically anyone with an understanding of the game, understand the 2nd guess as a part of the baseball experience.
But for reasons unknown, you don't.
SSDD
GLS...and the game isn't over, yet:
https://www.mlb.com/news/cc-sabathia-struggles-in-game-4-of-alds/c-297518200 (https://www.mlb.com/news/cc-sabathia-struggles-in-game-4-of-alds/c-297518200)
Sabathia left the game after allowing three runs on five hits and two walks, striking out one batter and hitting another. With their season on the line, the Yankees went to their bullpen to open the fourth, but some will surely wonder whether Boone should have had a quicker hook in an elimination game.
Poor sports.
Bottom line, you lose because the other team was better.
You couldn't handle losing and blamed Grady Little, and this guy and others can't handle losing, and are already blaming Boone.
Sad.
Troll you're just a clueless obssessed troll
Fans talk about the game, because its fun to talk about games
you just try to suck the fun from it
but you can't
you just suck
GO FUCK YOURSELF
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Pre-season the Astros were +500 +600 or thereabouts.
I've no idea or recall if you made the +250 bet or not. I suspect you're bullshitting again.
However I do recall you recently said you liked the Indians for the pennant at +1000 .
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
Cora had brass balls, and every button pushed seemed to work.
I was nervous about that one though.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Pre-season the Astros were +500 +600 or thereabouts.
I've no idea or recall if you made the +250 bet or not. I suspect you're bullshitting again.
However I do recall you recently said you liked the Indians for the pennant at +1000 .
I didnt bet on either.
The model that I was running - where I was betting (starting at 30K) games every day - I had 800 on HOU at +250.
The Indians info was that it was good odds on that team.
I have always been on the Astros to repeat, win it all.
Be good now.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
Cora had brass balls, and every button pushed seemed to work.
I was nervous about that one though.
Just you.
You want to talk strategy -and this is what you offer?
Good Lord.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Pre-season the Astros were +500 +600 or thereabouts.
I've no idea or recall if you made the +250 bet or not. I suspect you're bullshitting again.
However I do recall you recently said you liked the Indians for the pennant at +1000 .
I didnt bet on either.
The model that I was running - where I was betting (starting at 30K) games every day - I had 800 on HOU at +250.
The Indians info was that it was good odds on that team.
I have always been on the Astros to repeat, win it all.
Be good now.
I know you didn't bet it, but you pretend you do, and always manage to mention after the fact, just winners you picked.
Its pretty funny, considering in all the contests we've had over the years, you generally end up in or near dead last.
You pretty much suck at predicting.
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Astros about to close out Tribe.
10-2 in 8th.
Pretty good choice at +250 (to win AL)
If you can get Astros +250 jump on it. I suspect thats an old #.
heh
yeah, like when I stated the bet back in April.
Pre-season the Astros were +500 +600 or thereabouts.
I've no idea or recall if you made the +250 bet or not. I suspect you're bullshitting again.
However I do recall you recently said you liked the Indians for the pennant at +1000 .
I didnt bet on either.
The model that I was running - where I was betting (starting at 30K) games every day - I had 800 on HOU at +250.
The Indians info was that it was good odds on that team.
I have always been on the Astros to repeat, win it all.
Be good now.
I know you didn't bet it, but you pretend you do, and always manage to mention after the fact, just winners you picked.
Its pretty funny, considering in all the contests we've had over the years, you generally end up in or near dead last.
You pretty much suck at predicting.
So I PRETENDED the $800 at +250?
Yeah, OK, pal.
As for sucking/not sucking - like all bettors (real $$ and not) I have my moments. But Utley is right - taking the fun out of things is YOUR sport
heh
Remaining teams and their preseason odds to win it all (from one source, dont get picky):
Brewers - 55/1
Dodgers - 7/1
Red Sox - 13/1
ASTROS - 21/4
I highly doubt Houston was anywhere near 5-1 to win the AL, being that they were right around there to win the WORLD SERIES. But please - continue being so sure of yourself, Dickie.
Remaining teams and their preseason odds to win it all (from one source, dont get picky):
Brewers - 55/1
Dodgers - 7/1
Red Sox - 13/1
ASTROS - 21/4
I highly doubt Houston was anywhere near 5-1 to win the AL, being that they were right around there to win the WORLD SERIES. But please - continue being so sure of yourself, Dickie.
Kid I posted that preseason the Astros were +500 or +600, and your post above shows them at +525.
But you had them at +250 when you made your $800 bet?
Remaining teams and their preseason odds to win it all (from one source, dont get picky):
Brewers - 55/1
Dodgers - 7/1
Red Sox - 13/1
ASTROS - 21/4
I highly doubt Houston was anywhere near 5-1 to win the AL, being that they were right around there to win the WORLD SERIES. But please - continue being so sure of yourself, Dickie.
Kid I posted that preseason the Astros were +500 or +600, and your post above shows them at +525.
But you had them at +250 when you made your $800 bet?
AMERICAN LEAGUE.
Sale coming in for the 8th.
Gutsy move.
Opinions?
It makes me nervous, but I think I was nervous, anyway - and who did I expect him to bring in?!
Cora had brass balls, and every button pushed seemed to work.
I was nervous about that one though.
Just you.
You want to talk strategy -and this is what you offer?
Good Lord.
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
We've had this discussiuon on this board several times, the facts and context are well known and perfectly clear.
Only a troll and moron and Grady would let Pedro, with a known history of weakening after 100 pitchs, and after he struggled to get through the 7th, FACE 5 MORE batters, the heart of the Yankee line-up for a 4th time in the 8th, with 100 already on his arm, with a tested and solid set-up guy and reliever in the pen.
Managerial malpractice that most fans understand.
And I understand that you don't understand.
As you are a dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
We've had this discussiuon on this board several times, the facts and context are well known and perfectly clear.
Only a troll and moron and Grady would let Pedro, with a known history of weakening after 100 pitchs, and after he struggled to get through the 7th, FACE 5 MORE batters, the heart of the Yankee line-up for a 4th time in the 8th, with 100 already on his arm, with a tested and solid set-up guy and reliever in the pen.
Managerial malpractice that most fans understand.
And I understand that you don't understand.
As you are a dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Poor Little Richie.
STILL doesn't get the idea of what it means to be beaten by another team because they were better than you when it counted the most.
ALWAYS needs an excuse.
SAD.
What a dumbfuck!!!
LMFAO!!!
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Sale's career numbers against Houston are significantly better than Price's
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Sale's career numbers against Houston are significantly better than Price's
not when you include postseason
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
We've had this discussiuon on this board several times, the facts and context are well known and perfectly clear.
Only a troll and moron and Grady would let Pedro, with a known history of weakening after 100 pitchs, and after he struggled to get through the 7th, FACE 5 MORE batters, the heart of the Yankee line-up for a 4th time in the 8th, with 100 already on his arm, with a tested and solid set-up guy and reliever in the pen.
Managerial malpractice that most fans understand.
And I understand that you don't understand.
As you are a dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Poor Little Richie.
STILL doesn't get the idea of what it means to be beaten by another team because they were better than you when it counted the most.
ALWAYS needs an excuse.
SAD.
What a dumbfuck!!!
LMFAO!!!
Wrong again troll.
and rather that address the issue, you run from it.
What a fraud you are.
The only thing amusing and which draws a laugh is that when you are confronted with an opinion supported by several facts and repeated for you to once more digest, your rebuttal remains a fact-free declaration of "GLS".
I understand your brief and empty retort is the only way you have to go, as there is no credible way to rebutt my position, as its wholly supported by facts and generally accepted baseball strategy, and management strategy, none of which you seem to grasp.
Poor pathetic troll "GLS" is not much of an essay.
But to help you out and give you the guidance you sorely need, I'll give you one more letter that captures completely the summary of your RedStateWard-lite attempt to evade anything remotely close to an adult response.
F
I hope this helps in the future, but I find it unlikely as you really are just a pathetic dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Better team won that series. Congrats Sox fans.
See, banks? That's what you do. You don't second guess and blame the manager the rest of your life like a perpetually brain injured dimwit.
Yank just taught you a lesson, but you won't get it. As usual.
Leave bank alone. He knows Timlin and Williamson were getting Nick Johnson, Jeter, Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio and Mantle to end the '03 playoffs.
I'm perfectly fine gutting you and the troll, using only facts, reason and my words.
Its pretty easy.
So kid, feel free to set up the all the strawman you need to hide behind.
You presented no facts. Just your opinion. Your opinion demonstrated your character, which is, at best, weak.
But go ahead with your self-delusion. It's amusing.
We've had this discussiuon on this board several times, the facts and context are well known and perfectly clear.
Only a troll and moron and Grady would let Pedro, with a known history of weakening after 100 pitchs, and after he struggled to get through the 7th, FACE 5 MORE batters, the heart of the Yankee line-up for a 4th time in the 8th, with 100 already on his arm, with a tested and solid set-up guy and reliever in the pen.
Managerial malpractice that most fans understand.
And I understand that you don't understand.
As you are a dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Poor Little Richie.
STILL doesn't get the idea of what it means to be beaten by another team because they were better than you when it counted the most.
ALWAYS needs an excuse.
SAD.
What a dumbfuck!!!
LMFAO!!!
Wrong again troll.
and rather that address the issue, you run from it.
What a fraud you are.
The only thing amusing and which draws a laugh is that when you are confronted with an opinion supported by several facts and repeated for you to once more digest, your rebuttal remains a fact-free declaration of "GLS".
I understand your brief and empty retort is the only way you have to go, as there is no credible way to rebutt my position, as its wholly supported by facts and generally accepted baseball strategy, and management strategy, none of which you seem to grasp.
Poor pathetic troll "GLS" is not much of an essay.
But to help you out and give you the guidance you sorely need, I'll give you one more letter that captures completely the summary of your RedStateWard-lite attempt to evade anything remotely close to an adult response.
F
I hope this helps in the future, but I find it unlikely as you really are just a pathetic dumb-fuck troll.
SSDD
Spin, spin, but you just can't win. You have always been a poor sports, and an insignificant pimple on the butt of a jackass. And you remain so.
But go ahead and throw more lies and monkey shit.
Loser.
Spin, spin, you still can't win. Lie some more in your horse manure.
:) :) :) :)
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Sale's career numbers against Houston are significantly better than Price's
not when you include postseason
Yankees need starting pitchers badly. Probably worst staff of the contenders. No ace, Happ is probably a two. Severino bombed out in the second half.
Yankees need starting pitchers badly. Probably worst staff of the contenders. No ace, Happ is probably a two. Severino bombed out in the second half.
Wonder away. Price's recent numbers va HOU say he's a good bet to fare well - and this was home AND away.
Nate appears to be a key - but this is the Astros, not the free swinging Yanks we are talking about.
I would have no problem with Price as a 2+ inning reliever for the duration
You are on the clock, ALEX.
Sale's career numbers against Houston are significantly better than Price's
not when you include postseason
It's true.
Sale still has an advantage,
2.54 ERA for Sale.
3.19 ERA for Price.
Combine that with Price's problems starting in the post-season and Sale starts under any circumstances. Honestly, Price's post-season record starting is bad enough for that conclusion regardless and I don't know what the hell you are thinking.
Thinking 2.54 is a bit off........
Adding 9 ER and 9 2/3 innings (last year vs Stros postseason) to the 54 regular season innings, you get..........
Yankees need starting pitchers badly. Probably worst staff of the contenders. No ace, Happ is probably a two. Severino bombed out in the second half.
Tanaka is the ace
18 ER in 32 innings overall since 2016.
Just 3 starts for Red Sox ns HOU (13 ER over 15+)
Shall we look at Price's recent work?59
Ga'head - bet that ranch on HOU
I am not touching any bet vs a prideful Price this series.
We're playing Houston.
Very good numbers for Price vs Astros in a Sox uni.
Enjoy.
16.2
ER × 27 ÷ outs
Very good.
Damn. No idea how Price even shows for the next game.
Heh.
Price has to find a remedy for Yankee RH sluggers no doubt.
But worth reminding you....
A) the walk to Gardner was bullshit
B) McCutcheon then hit a fly ball to left
C) the hook was quick.
Quick hook by Counsel.
74 pitches
2 hits allowed.......for Miley
Sale-Verlander
great match-up on paper
I hope Kate got to Justin this afternoon and got to him for a couple
and hope Sale got his fastball and stamina.
Head says "Stros
they're probably the best team in baseball
Heart says Sox in 7
GO SOX
the internet sleuths have video that Pearce's ball hit scraped the wall before Kemp caught it.
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/boringimpartialamericancicada (https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/boringimpartialamericancicada)
slow it down using the left arrow to .125X and you can see the ball scrape, change drop angle.
modern techology.
the internet sleuths have video that Pearce's ball hit scraped the wall before Kemp caught it.
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/boringimpartialamericancicada (https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/boringimpartialamericancicada)
slow it down using the left arrow to .125X and you can see the ball scrape, change drop angle.
modern techology.
That's a NO for me.
One more win and we get to
DAVID PRICE pitches the ALCS clincher
One more win and we get to
DAVID PRICE pitches the ALCS clincher
I expect Sale in game 5, Kiid.
David Ortiz's reaction while on the FS1 set, to Jackie Bradley, Jr.'s homer in Game 3 is pretty embarassing
I hope the Sox find a 3rd baseman by then, although tomorrow would be ok too.
I hope the Sox find a 3rd baseman by then, although tomorrow would be ok too.
Holt/Xander/Kinsler/Pearce would be bold.
Machado is the new Arod. Astros caught with Spygate II. Boston brings out the worst in people.
I think that's an incorrect call.Replay automatically review “ boundary calls”.
Really?
I dont think they needed that view at all.
Will be discussed for a while, surely
Poor Joe West. He was applauded for yesterday's excellent strike zone.
I know the replay rules. I believe West made the incorrect call.Then so did replay.
You're asking me? I hate replay.I know the replay rules. I believe West made the incorrect call.Then so did replay.
Which only begs the question why do we need it?
James is a beast.
James is a beast.
As is JBJ.
Betts is specatacular
and so don't get why Kimbrel is pitching the 8th
Betts is specatacular
and so don't get why Kimbrel is pitching the 8th
Seemed pretty curious to me, too.
But maybe Cora knows something we do not know.
I do not understand why Price was up.
If he was getting up, why wasn't he pitching the 8th. Or the 9th. Or after a baserunner. Or... whatever!
But Benny!
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U can’t say definitively that he reached over the fence. There is no angle that shows it. Fans see what they wanna see. I see a guy whose body hadn’t hit the wall yet, glove well ABOVE his head and multiple fans leaning and reaching out. Can’t overturn call on the field. Period
One more win and we get to
DAVID PRICE pitches the ALCS clincher
I expect Sale in game 5, Kiid.
It looks to me as if the fans' hands are over the wall and in the field of play.
(https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44197834_10101730138550278_257576120818335744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&oh=80cec30cb398c9471e255a4176f56121&oe=5C5CF2EA)
Kennedy assassination photo:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpwRzFUUcAA_tZJ.jpg:large)
Kennedy assassination photo:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpwRzFUUcAA_tZJ.jpg:large)
My 2nd favorite ALCS security guard.
I understand that the Astro's had enough cameras in the park, but unfortunately for them they were al focused on the Sox dugout.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-vs-astros-fan-involved-in-mookie-betts-interference-play-says-its-about-the-worst-call-hes-ever-seen/?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-vs-astros-fan-involved-in-mookie-betts-interference-play-says-its-about-the-worst-call-hes-ever-seen/?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e)
Fix is in. Horrible calls in the series, all going cheating Boston's way.
Sad.
One more win and we get to
DAVID PRICE pitches the ALCS clincher
I expect Sale in game 5, Kiid.
Heh
Betts' glove extended way back into the stands. (Imagine the play by play call if he had caught it)
This cannot be refuted and was the reason the call was so easy.
Take the break and move on. They should even out.
Josh justifies cheating, when it favors his desired outcome.
Which is why he never talks about Bill Clinton.
Why not leave Eovaldi in to pitch the 9th?
Why bring Kimbrel in?
Fire Cora! (jk - said for a certain somebody's benefit)
Why not leave Eovaldi in to pitch the 9th?
Why bring Kimbrel in?
Fire Cora! (jk - said for a certain somebody's benefit)
Sox dismantled a scary good team
3 on the road
JFC
that was an impressive win
Congrats dudes.
Congrats to my Red Sox fan from me sitting on a park bench in Ann Arbor.
Boy, tbe umps' stealing those two runs from the Astros Wedensday had real consequences.
Cowboy Joe almost had as good of a series as the Sox did.
His call held-up to not only to MLB replay but the angles/pics that were not shown at the time.
Boy, tbe umps' stealing those two runs from the Astros Wedensday had real consequences.
I laugh at your humor.
But I know full well that if they get those two runs it is very hard to predict how things would have gone from there.
Alert fans know what happened. Fix was in. Commissioner is a fraud.
Shamball.
Masshole with bad beard and bitter divorce whines.
STFU, Josh, you pussy.
Masshole with bad beard and bitter divorce whines.
STFU, Josh, you pussy.
Pretty funny.
Thanks for proving my point.
You cannot keep a promise and you get petulant when called out.
Mind you, you also make up shit, just like you always have.
Masshole with bad beard and bitter divorce whines.
STFU, Josh, you pussy.
Pretty funny.
Thanks for proving my point.
You cannot keep a promise and you get petulant when called out.
Mind you, you also make up shit, just like you always have.
Mind you, school marm, you're still a pussy. Proved that point with the abject panic you went into about a year ago.
So fuck off, Masshole.
Good game by the Brewers - the Dodgers never recovered from the bottom of the 1st inning.
Game 7 tomorrow (their time)!
Guesses on who wins?
I'd be comfortable with the idea that Betts is as good at second as anybody else they could put out there.
Good game by the Brewers - the Dodgers never recovered from the bottom of the 1st inning.
Game 7 tomorrow (their time)!
Guesses on who wins?
Sure. LA wins with the rocket armed kid - but its their last win this year - as THE FIX IS IN
Beat LA will once again be the battle cry in the bi-coastal war for baseball supremacy.
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Yay!
A good game. Winning when Sale only goes 5+
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Yay!
A good game. Winning when Sale only goes 5+
or even 4+.
He's not right. might want to double check the belly button ring in the off-season.
Quite the pinch hit at bat by Nuñez.
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Thats 1
and 10D sucks
Nice to see the OPS likely won't again be sub 600.
Solid offensive skill set
Still shouldn't have put on the 30 lbs.
Happy to hear Brandon Nimmo (4.4 WAR) is an All Star. Yankee fans I am sure will be proud of Aaron Hicks' (4.7) All Star Year as well.
Masshole with bad beard and bitter divorce whines.
STFU, Josh, you pussy.
Pretty funny.
Thanks for proving my point.
You cannot keep a promise and you get petulant when called out.
Mind you, you also make up shit, just like you always have.
Mind you, school marm, you're still a pussy. Proved that point with the abject panic you went into about a year ago.
So fuck off, Masshole.
I haven't denied despising your threats to post my private information, Utley. Having had people like you interfere in my life from here and other sites, I find the threats, whether aimed at me or at others, to be chilling.
But while I haven't denied objecting to your posting information and/or a picture of me, neither have I broken promises that I have made to stop making personal references to off-line identity, which you have done repeatedly - repeatedly promising to change and repeatedly breaking your promises.
I may be a pussy, but you remain a Boston-obsessed, lying asshole.
I'd rather be a pussy, given your definition of it.
And yeah, Utley, you are exactly who you seem to be in your posts.
The troll has proved time and time again he's an indecent sociopath, with an inability to conform to societal norms. He plays at provocative, but he is not. Stalking and revealing private information is not provocative, its an invasion of privacy, and is used as his defense when his pea-sized brain feels overwhelmed and threatened by other more informed posters who show him up for the pathetic loser he is.
Troll you should apologize to Josh, and never post here again.
Good game by the Brewers - the Dodgers never recovered from the bottom of the 1st inning.
Game 7 tomorrow (their time)!
Guesses on who wins?
Sure. LA wins with the rocket armed kid - but its their last win this year - as THE FIX IS IN
Oh, look - Utley has a new username.
Quite the pinch hit at bat by Nuñez.
Roberts let Hill throw to Noonie? Or had Hill been brought in for Devers?
Sox played about as beautiful a game of baseball as I can imagine.
Great starting pitching
timely hitting
great defense
and great relief pitching
that was beautiful
He looks lost out there
Sox played about as beautiful a game of baseball as I can imagine.
Great starting pitching
timely hitting
great defense
and great relief pitching
that was beautiful
It was quite a game.
I am very happy for David Price and I hope it means he doesn't opt out of his contract.
I am happy to see Kimbrel pitch the way he has his last 3 outings.
And I look forward to the games in Los Angeles.
Sox played about as beautiful a game of baseball as I can imagine.
Great starting pitching
timely hitting
great defense
and great relief pitching
that was beautiful
It was quite a game.
I am very happy for David Price and I hope it means he doesn't opt out of his contract.
I am happy to see Kimbrel pitch the way he has his last 3 outings.
And I look forward to the games in Los Angeles.
Sox played about as beautiful a game of baseball as I can imagine.
Great starting pitching
timely hitting
great defense
and great relief pitching
that was beautiful
It was quite a game.
I am very happy for David Price and I hope it means he doesn't opt out of his contract.
I am happy to see Kimbrel pitch the way he has his last 3 outings.
And I look forward to the games in Los Angeles.
Kimbrel got a call from Eric Gagne - that he was tipping his pitches.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wmpcns.jpg)He needs to straighten out that back leg. Horrible form.
some grace, beauty and Air 10D can clear the air of troll shit.
I wanted to vote Sox in 6, but the poll closed. Anyway, may the team that abandoned its home city receive its turn on the wheel of karma.My least and fourth least favorite teams in baseball. I am rooting for small and highly localized earthquake in the Chavez Ravine area.
I wanted to vote Sox in 6, but the poll closed. Anyway, may the team that abandoned its home city receive its turn on the wheel of karma.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wmpcns.jpg)He needs to straighten out that back leg. Horrible form.
some grace, beauty and Air 10D can clear the air of troll shit.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wmpcns.jpg)He needs to straighten out that back leg. Horrible form.
some grace, beauty and Air 10D can clear the air of troll shit.
https://twitter.com/LouMerloni/status/1055608316733411328 (https://twitter.com/LouMerloni/status/1055608316733411328)
.......with a negative DWAR.
AB is in the top three - be happy - and he may just get it - sometimes the new guy stands out -
I never said he was a bad OF
Has a popgun arm - and yeah, I know - 11 assists.
The other 2 guys are obviously top notch.
For the record - I was thinking Moreland and Betts - we shall see.
yeah - looked up tendi and gordon - got em mixed up on the assists
Well documented throwing problems for Andrew. Eye test doesnt lie
Helluva game
Wow.
Sort of the opposite of Kinsler's trip around the bases, before getting nailed at home.
Holt's journey combined with Nunez' painful journey to first base in the 13th have been quite something.
Can it hold up? (Can the Sox score more this inning?!)
The Dodgers need to get the runners in when they get runners on base, especially with no outs, they need to bunt, and do sacrifice flies, etc, to get the runners in. Buehler did a great job pitching tonight, but the Dodgers need to get runs, they cannot afford to leave runners on base, they need to get those runners in. Every swing does not need to be a home run, sometimes a bunt is all you need.
And the same with Ryu, and Kershaw, they pitch great, but the Dodgers need the batters to get runs in. They cannot be champions of the world if they keep leaving runners on base, they need to get those runners in.
Salute,
Tony V.
and fuck
what a game.
The Dodgers need to get the runners in when they get runners on base, especially with no outs, they need to bunt, and do sacrifice flies, etc, to get the runners in. Buehler did a great job pitching tonight, but the Dodgers need to get runs, they cannot afford to leave runners on base, they need to get those runners in. Every swing does not need to be a home run, sometimes a bunt is all you need.
And the same with Ryu, and Kershaw, they pitch great, but the Dodgers need the batters to get runs in. They cannot be champions of the world if they keep leaving runners on base, they need to get those runners in.
Salute,
Tony V.
Maeda is amazing, these Dodger pitchers are awesome. They need for the Dodger batters to get more runs.
Salute,
Tony V.
Wow. Longest post-season game, in elapsed time, as well. 7 hours, 20 minutes.
They should take a day off, push the schedule back.
Wow. Longest post-season game, in elapsed time, as well. 7 hours, 20 minutes.TV and radio would veto that quicker than you could say "Jack Robinson". (While that expression did not come from the ballplayer it's always appropriate when the Dodgers are involved).
They should take a day off, push the schedule back.
Wow. Longest post-season game, in elapsed time, as well. 7 hours, 20 minutes.
They should take a day off, push the schedule back.
Wimp.
Wow. Longest post-season game, in elapsed time, as well. 7 hours, 20 minutes.TV and radio would veto that quicker than you could say "Jack Robinson". (While that expression did not come from the ballplayer it's always appropriate when the Dodgers are involved).
They should take a day off, push the schedule back.
The fix is in!
And it can't be said enough, but Manny Machado is a fucking cheap shot piece of shit.He's the Mr.Utley of baseball
Nunez is a decent player, but I think the Red Sox are doing the other team a favor if they pkay him rather than Devers.
With a win tonight Sale snatches the World Series MVP honor from Price - with Pearce then likely having claim.
Havent looked at the composites - not sure who else might factor in
With a win tonight Sale snatches the World Series MVP honor from Price - with Pearce then likely having claim.I think if Boston wins tonight, the series MVP is clean Ryan Madson.
Havent looked at the composites - not sure who else might factor in
Another title for the Hub of the Universe. America's city of champions
Well, at least the Dodgers brought the World Series to Los Angeles.
Congrats to the Red Sox.
Salute,
Tony V.
Thank God that shit is over. The single most boring season in the history of bsseball. What a fucking yawnfest.
Bought and paid for.
Fix. Was. In.
The sport is now on life support.
When the Red Sox scandal of 2018 is exposed, it will die.
HEH
You'd figure that a lifetime of being a pathetic loser that the troll would handle one more humiliating loss that exposed his idiocy a little better.
I mean whats one more loss atop of the thousands he's already swallowed?
Poor schmuck I guess each one stings as much as the last.
Thank God that shit is over. The single most boring season in the history of bsseball. What a fucking yawnfest.
Bought and paid for.
Fix. Was. In.
The sport is now on life support.
When the Red Sox scandal of 2018 is exposed, it will die.
What's the outlook for the Phils next year?
Who leaves? Who is brought in?
Thanks
HEH
You'd figure that a lifetime of being a pathetic loser that the troll would handle one more humiliating loss that exposed his idiocy a little better.
I mean whats one more loss atop of the thousands he's already swallowed?
Poor schmuck I guess each one stings as much as the last.
Try dealing in reality, once in a while. I haven't lost a thing. While you keep chasing the illusion that your life will somehow be far less miserable and meaningless if a baseball team you support buys a "championship".
Sad, pathetic, wannabe.
Congrats Sox fans. Phenomenal season.
It was quite a series, despite the lopsidedness of it.
No, Banks, the Red Sox did not beat three 100-win teams, unless you count not only the post-season, but the Dodgers' win against them.
Stunning stat of the day, to me? "The Red Sox are the 13th team ever to post MLB's best record and then win the World Series."
Now, I understand that from '69 on that it has taken more than one round to make it into the playoffs, but before that there were more than 60 World Series and I would have thought that at least a quarter of the time, if not half the time, that the team with more wins would have won! But that seems not to have been the case.
And of course nobody watched it or cared outside the two participating cities. That must be why Fox won prime time for every night the World Series was being played, right?
Still, a 7th game pulls a ton more folks than a series ending with game 5. If the fix were in, then the series would have gone 7, but why let reality stand in the way of bad sport grousing?!
Of course, buying the championship must be it, not the fix! There's the ticket!
So what if the winners of the World Series over the last 4+ decades have been in the top 5 in payroll just over 50% of the time?!
https://www.surepayroll.com/resources/blog/do-giant-payrolls-win-world-series-titles
Fortunately, this is all old news to those who've been paying attention, rather than only caring selectively when they need to try to drag others down.
Boston Obsession Syndrome lives on in the heart of Utley. It's pretty funny to watch.
But not nearly as much fun to watch as the 2018 Red Sox have been.
I wonder what 2019 will bring!
p.s. thank you to the non-Boston (actual) baseball fans for your graciousness which stands in sharp contrast to the whiner from Philly.
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
Meaningless discussion.
Then again, you're still getting your ass kicked, and gave yet to figure out why .
No one outside Beanfarttown gives a flying fuck.
Richie.
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
Well, at least the Dodgers brought the World Series to Los Angeles.
Congrats to the Red Sox.
Salute,
Tony V.
https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-red-sox-stack-up-to-1998-yankees/c-299967748
The argument in favor of the 1998 Yankees as the best of the era is hard to counter, IMO.
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
Meaningless discussion.
Then again, you're still getting your ass kicked, and gave yet to figure out why .
No one outside Beanfarttown gives a flying fuck.
Richie.
Troll Seeing that you are ill equipped to participate in a conversation about baseball history, I understand why you feel threatened by it and labeled it "menaingless" However I supplied a link to an article and quote from the NY Times regarding the subject, if you want a primer on the topic, you might want to read it.
If not that's fine, as I've had other discussions on the subject elsewhere, so feel free to shit in your pants, drool uncontollably, and otherwise occupy your time as you generally do here.
No one expects you to conribute anything of value here.
SSDD
so Koach, or anyone with an opinion,
how would you generally rank the '18 Sox season relative to other teams since '69, in terms of dominant seasons?
in the discussion, or a fluke to be iggied?
Meaningless discussion.
Then again, you're still getting your ass kicked, and gave yet to figure out why .
No one outside Beanfarttown gives a flying fuck.
Richie.
Troll Seeing that you are ill equipped to participate in a conversation about baseball history, I understand why you feel threatened by it and labeled it "menaingless" However I supplied a link to an article and quote from the NY Times regarding the subject, if you want a primer on the topic, you might want to read it.
If not that's fine, as I've had other discussions on the subject elsewhere, so feel free to shit in your pants, drool uncontollably, and otherwise occupy your time as you generally do here.
No one expects you to conribute anything of value here.
SSDD
Sorry, Richie. You're still losing.
Worst baseball season ever. Homers and Ks, horrible officiating, and snoozeball in between. Attendance down a commish committed to ensuring highest payrolls win, and a guy whose in morality is in question, in an era of sports betting being legalized, and a sport whose leaders now think all it needs is rule changes.
It's a meaningless and hollow victory in a downwardly spiraling era of the game.
Get help. You're still losing.
Every post of yours insures another defeat.
On the bright side I can now abandon this forum until March and let Utley and banks piss all over each other for 5 months and 300 pages.
On the bright side I can now abandon this forum until March and let Utley and banks piss all over each other for 5 months and 300 pages.
boz
i piss on on the indecent stalker troll, only because he's an indecent stalker troll, however he just dribbles a weak stream down his leg.
but I understand your desire for forum decorum.
But how 'bout them Sox?
and while you didn't get an earthquake in LA, you did get a 7-hr+ game 3 that was as close to torture as MLB, or the Geneva convention sanctions for civilians.
but it was also one of the greatest games in WS history.
Great Day for a parade.
Link?
and troll if you find baseball boring, you should find something that entertains you.Soft head. Doesn't get it. So sad.
Why hang out in a baseball forum, if it holds nothing for you?
ah well, there will always be stupid asshole trolls who try to suck the joy from life.
SSDD
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/28/sports/trump-tweets-dodgers-manager.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fbaseball&action=click&contentCollection=baseball®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=6&pgtype=sectionfront (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/28/sports/trump-tweets-dodgers-manager.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fbaseball&action=click&contentCollection=baseball®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=6&pgtype=sectionfront)
LOS ANGELES — Every baseball manager expects to be second-guessed; it comes with the job. And the bigger the stage, the greater the scrutiny.
Even so, Dave Roberts, the Los Angeles Dodgers manager, seemed startled after Game 4 of the World Series on Saturday to learn that President Trump had joined his chorus of critics. Roberts had just pulled his starter with a four-run lead and watched his bullpen collapse in a 9-6 defeat to the Boston Red Sox, putting his team one loss from elimination. In his news conference, Roberts learned that the president — who rarely tweets about baseball — had blamed him./i]
Extreme GLS: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-trump-criticizes-dodgers-pitching-moves-world-series-game-4-040525846.html?bcmt=1 (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-trump-criticizes-dodgers-pitching-moves-world-series-game-4-040525846.html?bcmt=1)
Hours after mass murder of American Jews in their house of worship, this is your president's greatest concern.
Sad.
I'm still sitting shiva for the death of baseball.
I'm still sitting shiva for the death of baseball.
I'm still waiting for the obit (or at least the citation of those who were saying it besides Mr. Utley).
I'm still sitting shiva for the death of baseball.
I'm still waiting for the obit (or at least the citation of those who were saying it besides Mr. Utley).
Could be a long wait.
The troll has been in mourning since August, over the Phillies. Seems they choked on cheese-steak, with.
In the meantime have some corned beef, its lean, and chopped liver is just like mom's.
Miss the point, much?
Miss the point, much?
Troll
Baseball ratings have been in general decline for over 30 years, this is not new. Yet you feel compelled to focus on 2018 to complain about the demise of baseball and how its boring.
Three months ago, when the philllies were over .500, your posts, when they won, were of the young exciting phitin' phils.,
And when the collapsed in early August so did your posts and enthusiasm.
But your trolling and meaningless and joyless existence continues, independent of anything.
You try but fail to suck the fun from sports.
I think you're the only one who consistently misses the point, as you never understand the point.
SSDD
Troll
You also suck at Monty Python.
If you don't like baseball or find it boring you would really be better off finding something you like or understand.
And troll, perhaps you should read the articles, many of which are repetitve about the declining ratings, or written well before the '18 post-season was played, so they can hardly be critical of the quality of play of the post-season teams.
So feel free to google "baseball dead" to define your terms, and your feeling about baseball, and I'll re-watch and re-enjoy the classic games of the '18 post-season, like Game 4 of the '18 ALCS, which was a gem of a baseball game, an all-time classic, or the 18-inning marathon Game 3 of the '18 World Series. a true epic baseball battle for the ages.
And you can go choke on a cheese-steak, wit or witout, you sad envious loser asshole troll.
Troll
when the phillies were winning, you were all about the exciting vibrant "Phitin' phils, yet when they gagged in August you stopped posting about them and by season's end you were all about baseball is dyin and is boring.
no one has denied baseball has some issues about the game and has had issues for years.
But what you miss is your blatant hypocrisy.
Whats funny is that the Sox played exciting baseball', they put the ball in play, played hit and run, stole bases, hit for power, played very good defense and had reasonably good pitching,
and proved they were the best team in baseball.
and they were fun and played with an attitude and are young.
If you had a clue about baseball or really liked it, you would recognize those Facts, but instead your head is so far up your ass and your prjeudice and obsession so pronounced you miss the fun and the sport of the sport.
And if you don't like baseball as it is, find something else until the phillies miraculously save the game.
in the meantime at least you have your cluelessness and hypocrisy to insulate yourself
SSDD
Joke award. Proof? Ian Kinsler.
'Nuff said.
Meanwhile, curious to see what MLB does regarding it's trade deadlines.
Joke award. Proof? Ian Kinsler.
'Nuff said.
Meanwhile, curious to see what MLB does regarding it's trade deadlines.
3-time pennant winner Kinsler adds World Champ to resume
Will surpass 200 hits next season. 4 time All Star
2 GG
1850 runs produced in 1800 games
100 runs six times
20 HR 5 times
30 HR 2 times
.775 SB %
57.3 WAR
40.4 WAR7
Hall?
Cool stuff about JD helping other Sox hitters
But even THAT shouldnt get him 2 Silver Sluggers in one year.
Jeeeeeeeez
Ohtani-San!!Acuna.
Congrats to Osuna as well.
But he probably has his name mispelled more often than any other candidate.
I probably would have gone with Scherzer than deGrom.
But congrats to DeGromme and the Ray's Blake Snell.
Without diving into numbers the way Kiid does, it strikes me that if these same voters were choosing in the AL in 2016, Verlander (or Kluber) would have gotten the nod over Porcello.
throwing hundreds of millions of $$$ in a dead sport?
that might be a definition of being "a little bit stupid"
Hopefully for the Phillies and their fans sake baseball like is not all dead, but only mostly dead.
RIP William Goldman
throwing hundreds of millions of $$$ at a dead sport?
that might be a definition of being "a little bit stupid"
Hopefully for the Phillies and their fans sake baseball is not all dead, but only mostly dead.
RIP William Goldman
throwing hundreds of millions of $$$ at a dead sport?
that might be a definition of being "a little bit stupid"
Hopefully for the Phillies and their fans sake baseball is not all dead, but only mostly dead.
RIP William Goldman
I see you still have a diminished capacity to comprehend what was clearly put forth.
You're brain is dead.
throwing hundreds of millions of $$$ at a dead sport?
that might be a definition of being "a little bit stupid"
Hopefully for the Phillies and their fans sake baseball is not all dead, but only mostly dead.
RIP William Goldman
I see you still have a diminished capacity to comprehend what was clearly put forth.
You're brain is dead.
What you put forth?
you made it perfectly clear
1-Baseball is a dead boring sport
and
2-the Phillies hope to be only a little bit stupid this year.
As opposed to presumably the crushing penalty of Utley-level stupid they've labored under for years.
SSDD
Mets history with aging second basemen is not good.
Mets history with aging second basemen is not good.
That's the current mythology, yes.
No.
They added Segues when they could NOT get Machado.
Sources? The ones saying Phil's will try to convince Manny to play third?
Yeah. That's what killed it.
If they were anywhere close with Manny Segura deal would have been put way back burner.
I still see Harper with the Nationals or Yankees.
I think the Yankees are entering a not caring about (PROSPECTS) stage at this point.
RSox rumored to be close to resigning Eovaldi
4/68 was the # mentioned.
His selection strengthens Dwight Evans candidacy if you care.Not sure why Baines over Will Clark or Joe Carter, let alone Evans or Albert Belle. Well, ok, Baines was never a solid gold ill-hearted full bore asshole, but still.
% when eligible isnt pertinent.
These committees were formed for that reason - to find overlooed guys
Was Edgar on the list of players/managers/execs for this particular committee to vote YES on?Martinez is still on the real ballot.
Not sure he was. BELLE was - might better use him for your point.
These new committees will certainly slant toward the Hall becoming more inclusive.
Like I said - hate the fact the committees even exist, if you so choose.
Syndergaard to Yanks setting NY afire...
Well...there you goWas Edgar on the list of players/managers/execs for this particular committee to vote YES on?Martinez is still on the real ballot.
Not sure he was. BELLE was - might better use him for your point.
These new committees will certainly slant toward the Hall becoming more inclusive.
Like I said - hate the fact the committees even exist, if you so choose.
Good back and forth today on High Heat, between Chris Russo and Tony LaRussa re: Baines
Huh? Eddie Murray's in the Hall-of-Fame and made it on the first ballot. And was the opposite of a kiss the writer's ass type of guy.Good back and forth today on High Heat, between Chris Russo and Tony LaRussa re: Baines
Heard it. Wish he would have asked LaRussa this, especially after LaRussa referenced statistics.
Um, Tony, how do you feel about being in the HOF, when you had all those players who used PEDs? Was your winning percentage as a manager as good as managers who never had those types of players? And Tony, now that MLB is taking money for gambling operations, should Pete Rose be allowed into the Hall?
Bottom line, I have no issue with guys like Baines in the Hall of Fame, since it's always been a kiss-the-writers'-asses situation. Just ask Eddie Murray and Dick Allen.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Yes the writers hated him. But they voted him into the Hall-of-Fame. Your suggestion was that the writers were using their love/hate of certain players, you used Allen and Murray as examples, to keep them out of the Hall. That wasn't the case with Murray.
And I agree. I don't think news, i.e., Hall of Fame selection, should be made by people who are supposed to report on the news.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
Baines selection is going to lead to never-ending "whataboutism".
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
We disagree.
Big surprise.
Writers as a diverse population are more objective and less conflicted than owners, managers, past teamamates.
Case in point Jerry Reinsdorf, and Tony LaRussa championed and persuaded Baines-era players to elect Baines.
Only 6% of the BBWAA writers/voters who watched him play thought thought him a good candidate.
There was no Baines conspiracy to kee[ Baines out, No one really thought he was a compelling HoF player.
Listening to most callers/pundits for the past couple of days, Baines election is getting killed.
the consensus: Nice guy, good player but he doesn't belong in the Hof.
And troll the only thing you clarified was you were wrong again.
Another guy way shortIf you say so.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
We disagree.
Big surprise.
Writers as a diverse population are more objective and less conflicted than owners, managers, past teamamates.
Case in point Jerry Reinsdorf, and Tony LaRussa championed and persuaded Baines-era players to elect Baines.
Only 6% of the BBWAA writers/voters who watched him play thought thought him a good candidate.
There was no Baines conspiracy to kee[ Baines out, No one really thought he was a compelling HoF player.
Listening to most callers/pundits for the past couple of days, Baines election is getting killed.
the consensus: Nice guy, good player but he doesn't belong in the Hof.
And troll the only thing you clarified was you were wrong again.
There you go again, with insults. You do that whenever you know you're either wrong, or have overstated your case. In this case, you've done both.
I've already proved why it's wrong for writers to create the news.
But here's more. They should not be involved in award giving.
The writers are impacting what players earn., Both on and off the field.
Can you "conflict on interest"?
Don't just take my word for it.
Others recognize this wrong you are too willing to defend: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65)
Thanks for playing, but you lost another one.
Another guy way shortIf you say so.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
We disagree.
Big surprise.
Writers as a diverse population are more objective and less conflicted than owners, managers, past teamamates.
Case in point Jerry Reinsdorf, and Tony LaRussa championed and persuaded Baines-era players to elect Baines.
Only 6% of the BBWAA writers/voters who watched him play thought thought him a good candidate.
There was no Baines conspiracy to kee[ Baines out, No one really thought he was a compelling HoF player.
Listening to most callers/pundits for the past couple of days, Baines election is getting killed.
the consensus: Nice guy, good player but he doesn't belong in the Hof.
And troll the only thing you clarified was you were wrong again.
There you go again, with insults. You do that whenever you know you're either wrong, or have overstated your case. In this case, you've done both.
I've already proved why it's wrong for writers to create the news.
But here's more. They should not be involved in award giving.
The writers are impacting what players earn., Both on and off the field.
Can you "conflict on interest"?
Don't just take my word for it.
Others recognize this wrong you are too willing to defend: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65)
Thanks for playing, but you lost another one.
Troll
Pointing out you are wrong is not an insult but rather an amply supported fact.
Objectivy and knowledge about the game are to me the needed criteria for HoF voters. IMO the BBWAA supplies both those better than any other single voter group.
The Baines election was pure cronyism by voters with varying degrees of conflicts of interest and personal interests.
This tainted election process has been mocked the last few days as its obvious flaws exposed for most to see,
A diverse group of 500 reporters and writers voting five (5) plus years from the candidates retirement have no such direct conflicts or biases.
In general they bring knowlwedge gained from years of watching the game and modest side issues which could cloud neutral assessments.
I understand that you do not understand, but trust me when I say your intellectual short-comings and inability to construct a coherent argument supporting your postion should not be a permanent barrier to you learning.
Asking questions might be a good way for you to to start.
And troll if you bothered to read the article you lnked to
here was the most important sentence in the article.
There may not be a more qualified group (BBWAA) to vote on players’ credentials for the Hall or for MVP, Cy Young honors, etc.
I don't believe the argument that sportswriters shouldn't be voting (which is more of an argument about journalism) is an argument that a special select committee of the type selecting Baines should be. I think the silliness of Baines' choice is obvious. I also think that the large group of sportswriters who believe that that they know who used PEDs and/or can thread the needle in determining how much such PED use enhanced a players' candidacy are, in fact, biased, and ignorant of the games' history where cheaters often prospered.
The "election" of Harold Baines to the Hall of Fame spear-headed by by an ex-employer, and former GM who traded for him, and a committee of players he played with, puts a huge magnifying glass on the massive conflict of interest and potential cronyism of this cherry-picking selection process. While some conflicts exists in the 500+ members/voters of the BBWAA, they are redcuced by the size of the voing base and several elements of diversification and they are relatively conflict-free body, as attested that not more than 6% of the voters thought Baines was a HoF player. There are only a handful of players who have been denied votes, and largely on the grounds they were massive assholes.
and voting for the HoF is not making news per se, again reduced by the fact a minimum of 75% of the 500+ voters are required to share a like opiinion, And its a largely neutral/bias free assessment of a ballplayer's qualifications relative to other ballplayers, and certainly much more neutral and less conflicted than a former owner might be.
Thank you, Joel Sherman. But the writers cannot call themselves journalists, when they create the news.
They're reporters who write about baseball.
They are giving their opinion on the subject they are probably 1) more qualified AND 2) less conflicted
than any other singular population to give an opinion.
And given a the tiny handful of errors, real and imagined, they may have made as a group, its hard to believe any other group would do as good and unbiased a job.
Given that it takes at least 375 like opinions (75% of 500) on the same player, the "make the news" argument is just not very well thought out position.
I adjusted my post above. And clarified my argument, demonstrating how you are indeed, wrong.
We disagree.
Big surprise.
Writers as a diverse population are more objective and less conflicted than owners, managers, past teamamates.
Case in point Jerry Reinsdorf, and Tony LaRussa championed and persuaded Baines-era players to elect Baines.
Only 6% of the BBWAA writers/voters who watched him play thought thought him a good candidate.
There was no Baines conspiracy to kee[ Baines out, No one really thought he was a compelling HoF player.
Listening to most callers/pundits for the past couple of days, Baines election is getting killed.
the consensus: Nice guy, good player but he doesn't belong in the Hof.
And troll the only thing you clarified was you were wrong again.
There you go again, with insults. You do that whenever you know you're either wrong, or have overstated your case. In this case, you've done both.
I've already proved why it's wrong for writers to create the news.
But here's more. They should not be involved in award giving.
The writers are impacting what players earn., Both on and off the field.
Can you "conflict on interest"?
Don't just take my word for it.
Others recognize this wrong you are too willing to defend: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/heres-a-vote-for-getting-sports-writers-out-of-the-balloting-process/2017/01/04/8cd4a25c-d285-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5cdd1943d65)
Thanks for playing, but you lost another one.
Troll
Pointing out you are wrong is not an insult but rather an amply supported fact.
Objectivy and knowledge about the game are to me the needed criteria for HoF voters. IMO the BBWAA supplies both those better than any other single voter group.
The Baines election was pure cronyism by voters with varying degrees of conflicts of interest and personal interests.
This tainted election process has been mocked the last few days as its obvious flaws exposed for most to see,
A diverse group of 500 reporters and writers voting five (5) plus years from the candidates retirement have no such direct conflicts or biases.
In general they bring knowlwedge gained from years of watching the game and modest side issues which could cloud neutral assessments.
I understand that you do not understand, but trust me when I say your intellectual short-comings and inability to construct a coherent argument supporting your postion should not be a permanent barrier to you learning.
Asking questions might be a good way for you to to start.
And troll if you bothered to read the article you lnked to
here was the most important sentence in the article.
There may not be a more qualified group (BBWAA) to vote on players’ credentials for the Hall or for MVP, Cy Young honors, etc.
Your feeble attempts to belittle me, as a result of you being schooled once again as to why writers should be disqualified from any voting are as lame as your belief system that you are anyone else's superior.
That said, you've revealed that
you didn't read it completely, or you would have likely comprehended the MAJOR PART OF THE PIECE.
Likely, though being as dense as you are, you may not fully grasp what has been so well defined.
But here's your last chance to gather in what is so plain for any normally functioning individual to understand:
The Washington Post has a long-running policy preventing its writers from voting on any and all awards. Other organizations — including the New York Times, Los Angeles Times and Baltimore Sun — have similar policies. So while these decisions were taken out of my hands for me, let’s follow a couple of examples of why we all need to pull ourselves out of these processes.
Hall of Famers, of course, make more money in retirement than really good players do. Speaking engagements, card signings, potential endorsement deals — they’re all impacted by whether a player is in the Hall. “Hall of Famer Johnny Bench” simply earns more than “former Reds catcher Johnny Bench.”
If that doesn’t seem like a direct link between a writer voting and a player’s earning potential, look at current players’ contracts. Carlos Gomez is a veteran major league outfielder who, this offseason, signed a one-year, $11.5 million contract to return to the Texas Rangers, with whom he had revitalized his career. This wasn’t a marquee signing, and it barely made much of a ripple outside of Arlington, Tex.
What also didn’t make a ripple because they’re so mainstream: clauses in Gomez’s contract that would pay him $250,000 for winning the American League MVP award, $200,000 for coming in second, down to $50,000 for placing fifth — in voting performed by two members of the BBWAA in each AL city.
Should Gomez be named the World Series MVP, he would receive $150,000. Should he be the MVP of the American League Championship Series, that’s $100,000. Both of those postseason honors have BBWAA members as part of the voting panel, joining broadcasters. Given he hit .231 and slugged .384 while splitting time between Houston and Texas in 2016, Gomez would be a candidate for comeback player of the year in 2017. That would be worth $150,000, and that, too, would be voted on by baseball writers.
So Gomez could earn $650,000 in awards voted on by the people who cover him. And he is just an example.
In some ways, these kind of pay-for-performance deals should be praised because they reward players for what they accomplish, not what they might do. The problem lies in how those accomplishments are determined. Think about it: Part of a Rangers beat writer’s job is having at least a working relationship with Gomez. What’s to prevent Gomez, at the end of a strong season, from approaching a reporter and saying, “Hey, you thinking about me for MVP?”
...the current setup assigns responsibility where it does not belong.
Part of a sportswriter’s job is to debate the historical merits of Guerrero, Rodriguez, Bagwell and the other candidates up for the Hall or argue whether Daniel Murphy or Kris Bryant should have been the National League MVP last season. Affecting the livelihoods of athletes, either during or after their careers, most certainly is not.
What you excuse, and attempt to paint as competence, is indeed NOT part of a sportswriter's job--an assertion put forth by a professional sportswriter.
You apparently don't even know what the discussion is, or you'd have the sense to shut your pie-hole, dim one.
Once again, you missed the clearly stated arguments being against writers being involved in the HOF or for any awards for athletes.
I didn't support Baines selection, nor did I oppose it. Don't confuse the two issues.
And admit when you're wrong.
As you were again.
The beatings and your abject humiliation will continue, so best you learn to get used to it, Igor.
Nice recovery, Junior. You've revised your opinion.
But it doesn't change the point that writers are peddling influence of cash flowing to athletes during and after their careers, and that is just wrong.
My view is that the bias among the writers has become more pronounced. I think it will ease over the years. Which is certainly not an argument for special committees. At the same time any discussion inevitably leading to a discussion about the issue of PEDs is probably not worth having.Nice recovery, Junior. You've revised your opinion.
But it doesn't change the point that writers are peddling influence of cash flowing to athletes during and after their careers, and that is just wrong.
there is no revison whatsoever.
Some bias is inherant in any human endeavor.
That you do not understand basic human psychology just adds to the list of stuff you don't have a clue about.
SSDD
My view is that the bias among the writers has become more pronounced. I think it will ease over the years. Which is certainly not an argument for special committees. At the same time any discussion inevitably leading to a discussion about the issue of PEDs is probably not worth having.Nice recovery, Junior. You've revised your opinion.
But it doesn't change the point that writers are peddling influence of cash flowing to athletes during and after their careers, and that is just wrong.
there is no revison whatsoever.
Some bias is inherant in any human endeavor.
That you do not understand basic human psychology just adds to the list of stuff you don't have a clue about.
SSDD
My view is that the bias among the writers has become more pronounced. I think it will ease over the years. Which is certainly not an argument for special committees. At the same time any discussion inevitably leading to a discussion about the issue of PEDs is probably not worth having.Nice recovery, Junior. You've revised your opinion.
But it doesn't change the point that writers are peddling influence of cash flowing to athletes during and after their careers, and that is just wrong.
there is no revison whatsoever.
Some bias is inherant in any human endeavor.
That you do not understand basic human psychology just adds to the list of stuff you don't have a clue about.
SSDD
I'm thinking we've broken through some barrier. The Orioles new manager is named "Brandon". I sense the days of skippers named "Doc" are long gone.
I'm thinking we've broken through some barrier. The Orioles new manager is named "Brandon". I sense the days of skippers named "Doc" are long gone.
How many years did Jeter have a 6+ WAR?
That is correct.
And half as many as ALAN TRAMMEL.
Trammel, Barry Larkin and Jeter have almost identical career WAR. (Nomar not close, of course)
Passing on a question from MLB Twitter:Probably Ken Griffey Jr., Alex Rodriguez or Frank Robinson. For.pitchers, Randy Johnson. I also saw Verlander's MLB debut.
Who is the best player you have seen in person?
PeakUh... I realize he is a New England icon, but he is kind of in a non-jock holding relationship ship with the other three. It.would be like listing Kaline.
ARod
Frank Robby
Griffey Jr.
Yaz
PeakUh... I realize he is a New England icon, but he is kind of in a non-jock holding relationship ship with the other three. It.would be like listing Kaline.
ARod
Frank Robby
Griffey Jr.
Yaz
PeakUh... I realize he is a New England icon, but he is kind of in a non-jock holding relationship ship with the other three. It.would be like listing Kaline.
ARod
Frank Robby
Griffey Jr.
Yaz
Yaz?
I mostly threw him in for old-time and conversational sakes. But you may want to take a gander at his stats and WAR in the '67-'70 period. He AVERAGED 9.5 WAR in those 4 years, and during a time when pitching was dominant,
AND his '67 season was the single greatest year I've seen any player have in watching the game 60 years.
In terms of this discussion he belongs.
Yastrzemski hit .326 to go with 44 home runs and 121 RBI, 112 runs and 189 hits, all leading the league. As a result, he was a no-brainer for the MVP award that year, and a massive 12.2 WAR was thanks to great defense as well. In 1967. Total bases 360. Ops 1.040. A great season.
Joe Morgan in 1975, led the league with 132 walks while batting .327 with 67 stolen bases, 17 home runs and 94 RBI. That and a WAR of 12 led to his first of two MVP awards. 1.020 ops. A great season... because...
Morgan won the World Series, too.
Yaz?..uh, no. Never won.
I guess you missed early Doc
Yastrzemski hit .326 to go with 44 home runs and 121 RBI, 112 runs and 189 hits, all leading the league. As a result, he was a no-brainer for the MVP award that year, and a massive 12.2 WAR was thanks to great defense as well. In 1967. Total bases 360. Ops 1.040. A great season.
Joe Morgan in 1975, led the league with 132 walks while batting .327 with 67 stolen bases, 17 home runs and 94 RBI. That and a WAR of 12 led to his first of two MVP awards. 1.020 ops. A great season... because...
Morgan won the World Series, too.
Yaz?..uh, no. Never won.
Arguing that to be a great player, one had to have won the championship?
I think it safe to say the poster who made the WS argument doesn't understand that baseball is a team game, and one where pitching has a much greater impact of W than any single player.
Yet holding Yaz accountable for Sox failures in the WS ('67 and '75) and diminshing him for that, but not holding Trout to the same standard, seems hypocritical.
IMO the Sox facing two juggernauts in the 60s Cards and 70s Reds were huge underdogs but took both series to 7 games. And who knows maybe if Tony C played in '67 or Rie in '75, events would have turned out different.
Our dumbfukk poster should probably take a look at Yaz's WS #s, they are better than his regulat season #s. The guy performed pretty well on the big stage.
But he may be correct the Trout may be the next best player.
If he can manage to put a 10.6 WAR year in '19, he will match the 4-year average WAR (9.5) Yaz compiled in '67-70.
there was nothhing personnel-I agreed with the poster who characterized your opinion as a "dumfukk" take,
and nothing you've posted since would change my mind.
btw with your recent name change you may be Elba's first 5-troll poster
or now that I start recalling them, it might be 6, 7 or 8
heh
there was nothhing personnel-I agreed with the poster who characterized your opinion as a "dumfukk" take,
and nothing you've posted since would change my mind.
btw with your recent name change you may be Elba's first 5-troll poster
or now that I start recalling them, it might be 6, 7 or 8
heh
You seem to be under a lot of stress. Hope you get the help you need. Tough time of year for those dealing with depression.
Good luck.
Oh, and get a spell check app. Might help you be better understood by others.
Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?
Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.
In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090 (https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090)
Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?
Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.
In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090 (https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090)
HEH
wrong again troll
I'm not pissed but amused by your idiocy.
you got challenged by several posters on your irrelavant inclusion of a team statistic, when the topic was individual performance, so you got defensive and decided insults were the way to go.
you made the wrong choice moron.
SSDD
Goose Goslin
heh
Wow. If you get this pissed just because someone doesn't swoon over your favorite player, what happens when you have real issues in your life?
Sorry you couldn't handle this rather benign topic.
In other far more important news, https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090 (https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-2019-mlb-free-agents-and-trade-rumors/c-297641124?tid=282421090)
HEH
wrong again troll
I'm not pissed but amused by your idiocy.
you got challenged by several posters on your irrelavant inclusion of a team statistic, when the topic was individual performance, so you got defensive and decided insults were the way to go.
you made the wrong choice moron.
SSDD
Goose Goslin
heh
Yes, that was an error of deletion. But nice if you to ignore the actual argument that trumped yours.
Obviously, you remain confused.
Addled easily.
The insults were all yours in the making.
AMT. It really can help.
Good luck, addled one.
Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
No that's not a fair assessment.Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
So...he choked. Would that be a fair assessment?
Meanwhile in Game 7 of 1975 Series, Joe Morgan delivered the GWRBI.
No that's not a fair assessment.Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
So...he choked. Would that be a fair assessment?
Meanwhile in Game 7 of 1975 Series, Joe Morgan delivered the GWRBI.
No that's not a fair assessment.Carl Yaz made the final out in both the 1975 World Series and 1978 playoff game.
In 1978 I was certain he was going to hit a HR.
So...he choked. Would that be a fair assessment?
Meanwhile in Game 7 of 1975 Series, Joe Morgan delivered the GWRBI.
Of course it isn't fair. But we all have seen players villified for failing in a big spot. Carlos Beltran watching strike three go by to end a playoff series comes to mind.
My point is that no one here knocked Yaz as not being a great player. Just others are/were better. And that isn't a subjective analysis, whereas judging a "choke" would be.
No one villified Yaz. But someone here with a dime view if reality flipped out when he found out Yaz was not as good a player as others.
At the very least that's abject immaturity. At best, it's delusional thinking.
Moron
the question posed was "who was the best player you saw in person?"
And I gave my answer to that and with reasons why.
You are either clueless or tone deaf to think you can tell me who I should rank where and when as for the most part my universe is alot different than yours.
for example I did not see in person a lot of NL stars, but I saw some.
similairy I'm not going to waste my time telling you about a guy who I probably didn't see in person (Morgan) or why his best year was highly unlikely to come close to Yaz's best year, as its irrelevant to the discussion.
that you fail to grasp this is not surprising as you 1) think everything is about you 2) you're a fucking moron
Would have likely happened any way-for reasons unknown, the troll enjoys his roll as village know-nothing d-bag.
He is however an expert on Goose Goslin and copy and pasting.
To the extent my comments on Yaz led to the last few page pissing match, I apologize to the forum.
Moron
the question posed was "who was the best player you saw in person?"
And I gave my answer to that and with reasons why.
You are either clueless or tone deaf to think you can tell me who I should rank where and when as for the most part my universe is alot different than yours.
for example I did not see in person a lot of NL stars, but I saw some.
similairy I'm not going to waste my time telling you about a guy who I probably didn't see in person (Morgan) or why his best year was highly unlikely to come close to Yaz's best year, as its irrelevant to the discussion.
that you fail to grasp this is not surprising as you 1) think everything is about you 2) you're a fucking moron
you are indeed the loser you would like to paint others as being.
Moron
the question posed was "who was the best player you saw in person?"
And I gave my answer to that and with reasons why.
You are either clueless or tone deaf to think you can tell me who I should rank where and when as for the most part my universe is alot different than yours.
for example I did not see in person a lot of NL stars, but I saw some.
similairy I'm not going to waste my time telling you about a guy who I probably didn't see in person (Morgan) or why his best year was highly unlikely to come close to Yaz's best year, as its irrelevant to the discussion.
that you fail to grasp this is not surprising as you 1) think everything is about you 2) you're a fucking moron
you are indeed the loser you would like to paint others as being.
heh
awesome rebuttal.
Its so sad that the point had to be spelled out several times for you and your rebuttal is all but muffled out by your tears of resignation.
You really are very stupid.
Thanks
Hadn't heard.
A Stanton deal would have to be similar to what LA just did, but in reverse. With Tanks getting virtually nothing in return.
consensus seems to be when the ball drops in Time Sq. tonught
Machado will emerge in pinstripes
and take out Anderson Cooper's knee
Boston Red Sox Writer: The guy who is number one in post-season pitching for games, WHIP, ERA, and Saves, with the MOST INNINGS PITCHED, is NOT a HOFer.
https://www.telegram.com/news/20181222/bill-ballou-mariano-rivera-not-getting-this-writers-hall-of-fame-vote (https://www.telegram.com/news/20181222/bill-ballou-mariano-rivera-not-getting-this-writers-hall-of-fame-vote)
And again, writers should not be voting for the HALL.
Particularly, the obvious home team supporters among them.
My thought on the Hall of Fame is that it is more than numbers, that its members must have the kind of presence that would make somebody buy a ticket — not hometown fans, but general baseball fans — just to say they saw him play.
Rivera fits that description. He is a larger-than-life performer whose character is impeccable. He has had a long career, albeit in a role I do not value, a role I equate with a PAT kicker in football or a shootout guy in hockey.
Robertson inks two year deal with Philadelphia.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-reportedly-sign-reliever-david-robertson-two-year-23-million-deal-184125107.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-reportedly-sign-reliever-david-robertson-two-year-23-million-deal-184125107.html)
Ballou's argument is that the closer's role has been overblown and is very limited.
He may be right in that regard, and probably accounts for that only six (I think) relievers have been elected to the HoF.
I'd vote for Rivera. Some guys deserve the Hall and Rivera is one of them.
Ballou's argument is that the closer's role has been overblown and is very limited.
He may be right in that regard, and probably accounts for that only six (I think) relievers have been elected to the HoF.
I'd vote for Rivera. Some guys deserve the Hall and Rivera is one of them.
That was the argument he presented, Banks, but it is not what he stated the Hall was about.
Using his own stated standard, he is just a dick.
Not to mention that it is not as if Mariano is the first one in, either.
Meanhile rumors build that Manny and Sox are serious.
Sox are white.
and Phillies considering Harper to go with Robertson.
They can have the last 2.. I think the reported Philly plan is to get Harper, sign the Keuchel, and secure Mik