Escape from Elba
Sports => Baseball => Topic started by: Administrator on July 30, 2018, 11:19:55 AM
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Discuss the state of the American League
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Testing, testing, 1...2...yankees suck....
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Testing, testing, 1...2...yankees suck....
Yes, the system seems to work just fine.
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Price tonight. Good luck catching us, boys.
Tendi and Bogearts do need to heat up.
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So.... Mets are going to bring in Austin Jackson and not play him?
Idiots.
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I think I take Frazier, Andujar, Adams for Degrom if you are offering, by the way.
Sox fans - dont bother - you cant match that.
Who plays third for the Yanks, you ask?
You tell me (if you want the deal)
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Much as I like DeGrom and as much as Adams seems to have fallen, I wouldn't do that.
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Yanks-Twins with a solid trade
Austin wasnt going to be used - would have been a 40-man casualty
Twins get the 19 year old Rios (117K vs just 14 BB), who may have a future
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Warren and Shreve gone - making room for Lynn and...........(TBD)
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Good to see Elba off the DL
Thanks liq
Welcome to Boston Ian Kinsler
Good game last night
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Great game, last night. Nola is an ace, but the youngest team in MLB showed their inexperience and gave away the game. Speed bump.
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Yeah. Pretty good team. Really like Hoskins.
Odubel screwed the pooch on the Nunez liner.
Some MLB Network guys think Philly "announces themselves as serious" with deals today.
What position upgrade do you prefer? I find iot fascinating Phils havent upgraded at SS. Iglesias would be a great fit (Tigers only team to not have made a deal)
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Good win. Snaps L streak. Shoulda been a sweep.
Next time.
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I wonder if Evvie felt any compassion with the Nats humiliation of the Mets last night.
Hope the Sox start hitting again, they've been in eh since the ASG break.
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Good win. Snaps L streak. Shoulda been a sweep.
Next time.
Arrietta is clearly Phils leader.
They say you cant lead from an every fifth day situation, but its worked in the past with some teams.
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Good win. Snaps L streak. Shoulda been a sweep.
Next time.
Arrietta is clearly Phils leader.
They say you cant lead from an every fifth day situation, but its worked in the past with some teams.
One of the leaders, and certainly for the pitching staff. Believe it or not, the kid Hoskins is the leader in that young clubhouse.
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I do agree it was a huge win for Phils
Mets are currently giving Nats a head of steam (Rizzo did as well when he dealt basically nobody).
Even today with Syndergaard - Nats up 3-zip already
For thiose who dont wish to look:
Loss column:
Braves
Phils -1
Nats -6
Overall
Phils
Braves -0.5
Nats - 5.5
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Jose Reyes becomes the first player in history to allow 6 runs in an inning and then homer from both sides of the dish the next game he appears (as far as I know, that is)
3-2 Nats after 8
Nats DUMPED Shawn Kelly, who threw a hissyfit last night upon beimng used with a 24 run lead (Kelly had allowed just 1 earned run since June 23, but 3 last night)
Interesting move, as they replace him with a rookie first time up guy.
Trying to fix that chemistry......
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Regarding chemistry. WTF is with the Astros bringing in Ocsuna?
Bad move.
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I could envision
a) Major protests
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b) Luhnow deciding not to use Osuna after all
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Interesting situation indeed.
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I just don't know how the gm thought he was improving the team. The players now have to answer all these questions, it's a distraction to them and puts the manager in a bind, and more. Very strange decision.
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From TSN: The Astros manager said he wasn't sure how the clubhouse will react when Osuna joins the team Friday in Los Angeles to face the Dodgers.
"I met with our team shortly after the trade went down and I just told them, 'Feel how you're going to feel'," Hinch told MLB Network on SiriusXM Wednesday.
Osuna has been serving a 75-game suspension as a part of MLB's domestic violence policy but can be activated Sunday. He was arrested and charged with assault May 8, with his last MLB appearance May 6.
"It's going to be an emotional time for him, it's going be an emotional time for our team," Hinch said. "I know there's reactions all over the place. I think a lot of us, especially in our clubhouse, just don't really know what happened, what to think. We don't even really know the court case, court dealings.
"He's not somebody we've had in our clubhouse before."
The Astros have come under fire for acquiring Asuna, especially since he court case has not been resolved yet (his attorneys were in court again Wednesday in Toronto).
He could be due back in court Sept. 5, as the regular season starts to wind down.
"Feel how you feel"? The clubhouse doesn't "really know what happened", which means details to follow, and more questions for all of them. And a Sept. 5 court date?
So now the whole team has the carry this baggage to the finish line.
I don't get this move.
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and the battle and hype ratches up as the Sox and Ys meet for a 4-gamer @ America's favorite ballpark.
tonght CC v Sale
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JOSH -
Just a heads up....
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Happ to DL.
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playing long-ball at Fenway tonight
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CFBW's are fun to watch.
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Sox down 4-0 and didn't quit.
Good CFBW
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nice to see the top of the order get on base
couldn't smell a hit against Phillies
1-to-5 got base 20 times (16 hits)
outrageous
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Yanks still need starters.
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I wonder if Evvie felt any compassion with the Nats humiliation of the Mets last night.
I died.
I mean, I've complained about our pitching, but that was just too much!
I was glad I wasn't there.
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Resilience.
The capacity to recover quickly from difficulties; toughness.
The key to winning the marathon that is a baseball season.
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Yanks still need [A STUD] starter...
Fixed
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Resilience.
The capacity to recover quickly from difficulties; toughness.
The key to winning the marathon that is a baseball season.
Okay
Now define
shortstop
and
closer
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JOSH -
Just a heads up....
http://forums.escapefromelba.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=t8b4j6qmu9m4hpm9vho70h8k24&action=profile;u=1164
This account, and others that end with "phome" and all listed as "Male, Age 39" in their profiles, are spambots. Don't know if you have the power to delete them, but you might save a lot of mopping up down the road if you can. I'm a web admin elsewhere on the web, and am familiar with these. Also, if you want to pass this along: threads that were inactive for years, and are now empty, are spam magnets. If they are thinned a bit, or just locked, it will save some grief. Or we can keep waiting for that magical day that Latin American Literature and Pets comes back to glorious life. "My dog has no nose..."
I will be cleaning up the threads regularly. If/when I get the ability to ban them and their IPs, I will do that, too, but thus far it is not an option.
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Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
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Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
I don't remember the earlier game, but Pedro was Pedro and when he threw a game like that, while it was appreciated it was not quite as surprising as seeing "Cy" Porcello do it.
A lovely game to see. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
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Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
I don't remember the earlier game, but Pedro was Pedro and when he threw a game like that, while it was appreciated it was not quite as surprising as seeing "Cy" Porcello do it.
A lovely game to see. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
The Pedro game was the best game I've ever seen a pitcher pitch, with the Chili Davis hr (RF-yankee stadium) the only hit Pedro gave up that night.
17ks no walks.plunked Knobby.
Porcello not nearly as overpowering, but very efficient, and just throwing strikes.
real nice game.
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The New York Daily News made this observation about Chase Adams' start tomorrow at Fenway:
The Red Sox’ powerful lineup, which leads the majors in OPS (.796) is a tough first assignment in the big leagues for any pitcher, let alone one making his big league debut.
Their editors must work in the Department of Redundancy Department.
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Porcello with a gem.
brings to mind Pedro's 1-hitter (Chili Davis dinger) of '99
I don't remember the earlier game, but Pedro was Pedro and when he threw a game like that, while it was appreciated it was not quite as surprising as seeing "Cy" Porcello do it.
A lovely game to see. I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
The Pedro game was the best game I've ever seen a pitcher pitch, with the Chili Davis hr (RF-yankee stadium) the only hit Pedro gave up that night.
17ks no walks.plunked Knobby.
Porcello not nearly as overpowering, but very efficient, and just throwing strikes.
real nice game.
Oh? Mids this game? https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI201010060.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI201010060.shtml)
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The New York Daily News made this observation about Chase Adams' start tomorrow at Fenway:
The Red Sox’ powerful lineup, which leads the majors in OPS (.796) is a tough first assignment in the big leagues for any pitcher, let alone one making his big league debut.
Their editors must work in the Department of Redundancy Department.
They fired all their good writers.
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I've seen lots of no-hitters, but I've never seen a better pitched game, nor a more dominant performance, than Pedro's when he pitched against the Ys in '99.
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https://baseballhall.org/discover/inside-pitch/pedro-martinez-blanks-indians-in-alds (https://baseballhall.org/discover/inside-pitch/pedro-martinez-blanks-indians-in-alds)
This is probably the most amazing pitching performance I can remember having seen. It wasn't a complete game or close to it, because it was a relief appearance in the 4th, but it was the guttiest and most dominating, especially under the circumstances.
I've probably seen better complete games - the no-hitter against the Red Sox this season was mighty dominant.
But Pedro, with nothing over 90mph available, with those 6 innings of no hit ball just sticks in a way few other games ever have stuck with my feeble memory.
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that was a helluva gutsy performance and that game came a month after the 1-hitter
its a amazing he snuffed a great line-up Tribe team with no heater
Pedro could pitch.
good call.
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Yanks need to do everything now to set up for the wild card game, including figuring out who they want to pitch
Right now without any doubt it is TANAKA, if they are thinking straight
I'm excited to see ADAMS, who I would have taken as a Met - today.
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Another quick on in Boston
Still cannot believe Sox gave up prospect Beeks to get Eovaldi
heh
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Who questioned that trade? Heh.
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Yanks need to do everything now to set up for the wild card game, including figuring out who they want to pitch
Right now without any doubt it is TANAKA, if they are thinking straight
I'm excited to see ADAMS, who I would have taken as a Met - today.
So far, he's slightly better than Severino was yesterday, both in runs and in pitches thrown. Better than they might have feared if not as good as they likely had hoped. "Better than Severino was yesterday" is not a high bar to clear.
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Who questioned that trade? Heh.
Same trade as Britton
- but you liked Shreve, I get it.
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Not the same trade as Britton. Not even close. You're becoming more of a troll daily.
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You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
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I posted my reasons about why I thought Britton wasn't a great move and in so doing acknowledged the "keeping him from a competitor" argument was a compelling one. Feel free to go back to them. Oh. You can't? Tough shit. Troll.
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Actually, you never did.
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Actually, I guess we'll never know. Troll.
Perhaps you can find it on my Twitter account.
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You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
I thought the Red Sox needed Eovaldi.
Didn't you?
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Say what, Cash?
https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/red-sox-send-message-yankees-brian-cashman (https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/red-sox-send-message-yankees-brian-cashman)
White Sox, Astros, Twins, A's. Phils, Mariners all play Sox tougher this year than NY
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Actually, I guess we'll never know. Troll.
Perhaps you can find it on my Twitter account.
I will look
@onetitlesince00, right?
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How'd you guess?
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alittle bit of added drama
alls well that ends well.
Eovaldi was a stud.
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You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
The deals were not identical.
Britton was an established star closer, Eovaldi more of a lottery ticket starter.
Sox got priced out of the reliever market but could pick-up an end of the rotation starter who might be moved to the pen, or allow someone (Pom) to be moved to the pen.
Britton had a deep market
No one else wanted Eovaldi, which is why the Sox could get him.
and fwiw when I put forth the Ys keeping Britton away from Sox/Astro's was a tangible benefit, a return response disagreed with me.
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Say what, Cash?
https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/red-sox-send-message-yankees-brian-cashman (https://weei.radio.com/blogs/rob-bradford/red-sox-send-message-yankees-brian-cashman)
White Sox, Astros, Twins, A's. Phils, Mariners all play Sox tougher this year than NY
Cashman sounded like Rex Ryan crying about the Pats.
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What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need. But dammit, it's all on my Twitter page.
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You think Red Sox "needed" Eovaldi? For what?
I am going on the premise that you did NOT think Yanks needed Britton (easy, since this is basically what you posted)
The 2 deals are identical, right down to the "we kept him from the opposition" stance.
I thought the Red Sox needed Eovaldi.
Didn't you?
It was obviously a great add.
What I thought isnt the issue
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What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
I agree the Ys did not need Britton, they needed a starter, just like they did before the season started, so I assumed a part of Cashman's reasoning for acquiring a guy they did not need (Britton) and could afford, was to keep a needed asset from his competitors.
I do not recall you stating it was a compelling argument, but I do not possess perfect recall.
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Actually, I guess we'll never know. Troll.
Perhaps you can find it on my Twitter account.
Closest I can come is Kid's complaining about the press being drawn to shit in their reporting about Josh Hamilton and your response to that.
I don't currently see anything archived from the AL forum later than 2012.
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What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
I agree the Ys did not need Britton, they needed a starter, just like they did before the season started, so I assumed a part of Cashman's reasoning for acquiring a guy they did not need (Britton) and could afford, was to keep a needed asset from his competitors.
I do not recall you stating it was a compelling argument, but I do not possess perfect recall.
I always acknowledge and reject that argument. I don't think any team is good enough and wise enough to focus on another team's needs at the expense of their own.
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What I said was "while keeping a guy from another team" is always an argument and a compelling one, I prefer my to make trades based on what is needed and the Yankees didn't need to get a guy for whom the talent they gave up could have been used to get a guy they did need.
I agree the Ys did not need Britton, they needed a starter, just like they did before the season started, so I assumed a part of Cashman's reasoning for acquiring a guy they did not need (Britton) and could afford, was to keep a needed asset from his competitors.
I do not recall you stating it was a compelling argument, but I do not possess perfect recall.
I always acknowledge and reject that argument. I don't think any team is good enough and wise enough to focus on another team's needs at the expense of their own.
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Now I'm confused, you've said you found it a compelling argument and now one you reject.
But I agree focusing on your own team's needs, and addressing them is a simpler and more effective strategy than to try and out-maneuver what an oppponent may do.
But I also think Cashman feels he's playing chess while everyone else is playing with themselves.
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Would you prefer I said "compelling, but ultimately rejected"?
Cashman has the touch of arrogance that all good GMs have to have.
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I thought you rejected my opinion of Cashman's Machiavellian designs, right off the bat, which was why I was surprised today when you used the word "compelling".
NBD.
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The compelling part of the argument is "look how good the Sox would be with Britton. We have to do something to stop it." The rejection is "let the Sox have him. Let's get what we need."
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YG feels one deal precludes another. I disagree.
Dillon Tate may end up a big leaguer
But his 1.6 WHIP just 2 years ago might say to bet the other side.
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The compelling part of the argument is "look how good the Sox would be with Britton. We have to do something to stop it." The rejection is "let the Sox have him. Let's get what we need."
if you accept some of that reasoning, and believe as you seem to believe that the Ys did not need Britton, but a starter, then Cashman's trading for Britton to lengthen an already deep BP but to also keep him from the Sox and Astro's does not seem a huge leap to accept. And its about impossible to tell which was a more important factor.
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We were talking about and Kid was trolling about why I didn't think the Yankees needed Britton and why if I were GM I wouldn't have gotten him. I have no idea why Cashman did it. Keeping the Red Sox and Astros from him likely played some role.
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The compelling part of the argument is "look how good the Sox would be with Britton. We have to do something to stop it." The rejection is "let the Sox have him. Let's get what we need."
I think the Yankee wanted Britton to HAVE Britton. To have another guy they can trust in the eighth inning and a better one v one lefty vs tough lefties down the stretch.
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Indians-Angels on - and I can honestly say I have ZERO interest. Funny.
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And we're back to the initial argument(s).
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Dude - the issue is your not thinking Yanks benefit from Britton
You have yet to make that case.
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Then again....
we have to wait to see when Yanks actually have another lead for him to come in to.
heh
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Got some baseball people shaking their heads tonight at not relenting to Mets demands on Wheeler.
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From MLB:
Eovaldi's first impression with his new team has been about as good as possible. He hasn't allowed a run over 15 innings in his first two starts for the Sox. The last time a starting pitcher was unscored upon in his first two starts for Boston? Vaughn Eshelman, who did it in 1995.
That's the late Vaughn Eshelman to you. He died on July 24th, 11 days ago, at age 49 - liver disease. He'd had a transplant in March, but never finished his recovery. His older brother and best friend, Kyle, died at age 40. That's a ton of young death for a family.
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https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544 (https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544)
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https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544 (https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544)
Pai-Mei's 5-point palm-ball exploding heart technique claims another victim.
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https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544 (https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/status/1025919671688556544)
Amazingly silly.
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Efflin wins again.
Rolling, rolling, rolling...Nola keep it rolling...
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Asdrubel at short
I like Miami today
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I liked Asdrubel today.
On the road again...
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Whew - this one's on Cora.
Price needed to be done on the Gardy single.
And is Hembree really your best there?
If it was 2 games to 1 rather than 3-0 Cora's team is given better by his MGR, I have to feel.
Well done, Yanks. Betters your WC chances.
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Whew - this one's on Cora.
Price needed to be done on the Gardy single.
Yup.
It was short leash time. Cora messed up.
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Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
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Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
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Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
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ooooooooooooooooooooops
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Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
They got 3 closers.
As you might have noticed in this series they needed a starter more.
Or maybe you didn't
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Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
They got 3 closers.
As you might have noticed in this series they needed a starter more.
Or maybe you didn't
I was agreeing and teasing Kiid.
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Who was that lefty?
Pretty decent.
the Y's new toy from Baltimore
Not that they needed him.
They got 3 closers.
As you might have noticed in this series they needed a starter more.
Or maybe you didn't
I was agreeing and teasing Kiid.
my bad
I assumed that kid was responding to me.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
that was a nut punch win!
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Jessica Mendoza predicted the bottom of the 9th.
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From the NYT: — As the Yankees trudged off the field in the wee hours of Monday morning, several of them took one last peek across what had become a bandbox of horrors, catching a sight of the Boston Red Sox mobbing Andrew Benintendi near first base.
It was his hit, a ground ball up the middle through a hole in the shifted defense, that delivered the final devastating blow to the Yankees in a weekend full of them. It brought home pinch-runner Tony Renda, whose headlong slide across the plate sealed a 5-4, 10th-inning comeback win that served as an exclamation point on a four-game sweep of the Yankees.
Instead of leaving the field with a modicum of momentum, and perhaps a sense that they were pulling out of an ill-timed funk, the Yankees dropped to nine and one-half games behind the Red Sox in the American League East. But they weren’t ready to admit that they had kissed their hopes of a division title goodbye.
“A tough way, obviously, to end a tough weekend,” Yankees Manager Aaron Boone said. “But we can’t let this define what’s been a great season for us.”
"Bandbox Of Horrors".
Truly.
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Jesus comes down off hid cross:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/a-weight-has-been-lifted-off-bryce-harper-and-hes-ready-for-the-nationals-final-stand/2018/08/05/9da15c26-98d9-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/a-weight-has-been-lifted-off-bryce-harper-and-hes-ready-for-the-nationals-final-stand/2018/08/05/9da15c26-98d9-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html)
FTR, Rizzo wad NEVER going to trade him.
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Indeed, truth, Ut.
I said so at the time. Media ran with it off some miniscule info.
Harper carrying this club to the playoffs is a nice story. Hope he gets there.
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Uh oh.
The Yankees have trimmed the lead down to 9 and they still have two games in hand!
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There is no baseball karma
Osuna gets W in first HOU appearance.
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Uh oh.
The Yankees have trimmed the lead down to 9 and they still have two games in hand!
1978.
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Uh oh.
The Yankees have trimmed the lead down to 9 and they still have two games in hand!
1978.
Beat me to it.
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heh
'78 was a great season, and a great race, and has become the St. Jude of baseball seasons to some to pray to.
But it was more like a crucible preparing the soul for the real trying times like '86 and '03
fwiw I and most other sportsfans call upon Saint '04 when the night is at its darkest and the task at hand seemingly impossible
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heh
'78 was a great season, and a great race, and has become the St. Jude of baseball seasons to some to pray to.
But it was more like a crucible preparing the soul for the real trying times like '86 and '03
fwiw I and most other sportsfans call upon Saint '04 when the night is at its darkest and the task at hand seemingly impossible
Reading too much into it, as usual.
My point is for the Bosox fan to stay humble, as great regular seasons often do not translate into championships.
Perhaps, then, I should have referenced 2011 Phillies, the 2015 Cardinals, the 2008 Angels, the 2004 Yankees, the 2003 Giants and the 2003 Braves, 2002 A's, 2001 Mariners, 1998 Astros, 1988 Mets, the 1976 and 1977 Phillies.
I hope you can grasp that which seemed to have escaped your comprehension before.
No one has ever won the World Series in August.
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I think I read the intended purpose into "1978" accurately and and responded appropriately.
There was no boasting in my post, just a reflection upon the pain of races past.
and in Josh's post which gave an accurate update of the 2018 AL East race he did not claim the pennant.
So your retort is one large false narrative.
As usual you come to provoke, and you end up as a bloodied fool.
And fwiw, 1964 probably remains the platinum standard of pennant collapses.
Likely before your time, though
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I think I read the intended purpose into "1978" accurately and and responded appropriately.
No. You didn't.
You fucked up.
And now that you know the intent behind the original post, you try to save face.
You haven't won shit, yet, so calm down.
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I think I read the intended purpose into "1978" accurately and and responded appropriately.
No. You didn't.
You fucked up.
And now that you know the intent behind the original post, you try to save face.
You haven't won shit, yet, so calm down.
troll your use of "1978" was meant as troll, as thats all you do
you said nothing else but "1978"
it was as illuminating as red's typical "LOL" when he hasn't a clue, but feels he needs to respond
but its just the empty laugh of a trolling idiot, just like you, you dumb fuck troll
and I responded to your 1-word essay, in context of 1978 as a memorable season
and neither Josh or I clamed a pennant
learn to read you moron.
1964
and you know what the best thing about the Phillies historic choke in 1964?
If the Philles had won and not choked losing 10 in a row, and pissing away the pennant to the Cards, David Halberstam probably would never had the interest to do a follow-up classic to his 1949
now go fuck yourself
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lotta late inning lightening in Toronto
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that Sox BP!!!
yikes
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I see banks still can't read what was clearly written. But he can still easily overreact. What a hypersensitive twit.
And still no team had won the World Series in August.
Meanwhile, in the league where they still play the game the way it was intended, the Philly Utes earned another win, behind Nicky P.
Rubber game today.
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what was clearly written?
heh
1964
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Thinnest skin on the fora. You really should get some professional help. Your displaced anger here is boring. And pathetic.
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heh
troll you really should buy a speck of a clue and some security, as you are a clueless insecure asshole.
Josh gives an AL E update and you respond "1978"
And i post about 2 sentences about the '78 season from my perspective
and then you manufacture false narratives and accuse others of having agendas and thin-skins.
TFF
you're fucked up
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On Sunday, Kid, because he knows things, and in yet another attempt to show me wrong for expressing my problems with the trade, noted what was just an okay inning pitched by Britton against the Red Sox with a rhetorical question as to who that pitcher was.
Is Kid going to ask the same question this morning?
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yank
I'm getting a sense of deja vue
not the best night for Kimbrel or Britton.
more concerned with Kimbrel
Sox BP is clearly their Achilles heel
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I think the Red Sox have a lot of very good arms in the bullpen and in the event of a total meltdown by Kimbrel they can find somebody else to handle that role. I think the "traditional" closer role is probably the easiest role in baseball to fill on stop-gap basis.
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They have a lot of guys who throw 95+, but very few who seem to deliver a clean 1-2-3 in late innings.
Last year Kimbrel was a lock, this year not so much. He's had problems with his breaking ball, making sitting on his heater a problem.
Barnes has been pretty decent but Joe Kelly, who was pretty good for the first couple of months, regressed.
They could use another dependable guy, as winning with late run offensive bail-out explosions is not the post-season model you want to count on.
I wonder if/when E-Rod comes back, he returns, at least for awhile as a BP guy, or maybe Eovaldi.
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Disagree with YG
I find it puzzling Red Sox do not have a substituite closer on the roster - someone who has handled duties before (Thornburg does have 13 saves in his career, but thats it)
Eovaldi might be a candidate but appears to beneeded as 4th starter.
Matt Barnes the likely guy. I like him, but thats an anything can happen scenario (could be quite good, could be a mess)
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John Axford, a dreadful pitcher, had 46 saves one season. Finding a closer shouldn't be that hard.
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Yank-I'm not as confident that good closers are as readily available.
That the Ys have 3 closers may have skewed your opinion.
And it seems, barring injury or catastophre, the sox have made their bed with Kimbrel, but they may have to bolster the pen with some other additions or sleight of hand.
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I'm not sure I said that proven good closers are available, but rather guys become good closers out of a sense of desperation all the time.
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John Axford, a dreadful pitcher, had 46 saves one season. Finding a closer shouldn't be that hard.
Degrees, my friend...
Degrees.
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I'm not sure I said that proven good closers are available, but rather guys become good closers out of a sense of desperation all the time.
I'm not sure that trial and error was a key component to Dave Dombrowski's pre-season approach to the '18 bullpen.
And I don't think the Sox are at desperation yet. Hopefully, from their perspective, they continue to get solid starts most nights, Kelly gets right, Barnes stays reasonably reliable, and whatever curveball funk has funked up Kimbrel is fixable.
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I think Kimbrel will be fine, but if he's not I don't necessarily think it's cause for despair. Remember in 2013 it took one closer's injury and a second's bout of ineffectiveness before the Sox lucked into Koji as a closer.
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Again - making my point
Uehara had saved 32 games in a season for Yomiuri - then had 13 for the Orioles when put in that spot for just six weeks in 2010.
They had him in the garage - in case he was needed. Dont know about the luck part.
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Delusional banks showing he's worried Bosox will blow up in post season. Little early for that kind of panic.
Heh
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Talk about being misunderstood!
My comment was harkening back to the mindset of Bostonians everywhere when we knew our team could and would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
When every minor issue was proof that Chicken Little was right!
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The delusional troll wrongly accuses me of both claiming victory in August and panic.
the troll is nothing if not clueless
but mostly nothing.
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Delusional banks showing he's worried Bosox will blow up in post season. Little early for that kind of panic.
Heh
Blow up how?
I think Sox will hit. Maybe Sale is out, you foresee? Pomeranz is used - and sucks? (yeah, more believable)
If they lose it will be close and likely well played - and tip of the cap to the (insert team that played better here)
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If Eddie R comes back and pitchs as he did, pre ankle sprain, and Pom continues to suck, he will not be a post-season starter.
Sale-Price-Porcello-Rodrriguez or Eovaldi
depending on line-up might want another RH starter= Eov and ERod to BP.
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Talk about being misunderstood!
My comment was harkening back to the mindset of Bostonians everywhere when we knew our team could and would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
When every minor issue was proof that Chicken Little was right!
I thought his name was Grady.
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heh
Grady did his best work on Bull Durham.
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HOU still the team to beat.
Especially now with Osuna, who looked very very good the other day
(Not that they needed him - heh)
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He's a prick, but they did need him.
Has anyone ever told you you're an asshole?
HEH
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IMO Astro's still the team to beat.
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If I said something like that, Bank, I'd be accused of the ol' reverse mojo thing.
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Probably.
I think the Sox can beat anyone, and might, but I like the Astro's rotation and I got some concerns about the Sox BP against good line-ups.
Sox are a good bet in the 8-5 games, less so in the 4-3 games.
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It was one year ago today that Rhys Hoskins left triple-A Lehigh Valley and joined the Phillies for a four-game series at Citizens Bank Park against the New York Mets. He went 1 for 13 in that first series. Things, of course, improved in a hurry as he hit 18 home runs in his next 30 games to become the fastest player to 18 home runs in major-league history.
In his first calendar year of Major League Baseball, Hoskins has hit .258 with 35 doubles, 40 home runs, 120 RBIs, and a .918 OPS. His big-league career did not start until he was 24, but it’s still fun to compare his first calendar year to some of the other active stars in the game.
Here’s a look at how Hoskins compares to five of the game’s premier sluggers:
Player G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB K BA OBP SLG OPS
Rhys Hoskins 155 551 101 142 35 40 120 103 153 .257 .379 .539 .918
Aaron Judge 138 478 97 129 16 39 88 94 194 .270 .394 .523 .967
Bryce Harper 162 616 115 175 31 31 77 68 133 .284 .356 .518 .874
Giancarlo Stanton 156 552 78 142 34 35 92 58 181 .257 .332 .520 .852
Mookie Betts 126 480 71 133 29 13 52 45 67 .277 .341 .440 .781
Nolan Arenado 159 590 63 161 35 14 66 26 85 .273 .303 .417 .720
Note: Mike Trout was not included because he started the 2012 season in the minors after making his major-league debut in July 2011, and that tainted his sample size.
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speaking of Betts, he hit his first career cycle in last nights loss to Toronto.
helluva player, he does everything well
Porcello roughed up after being staked to 2-0 lead.
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It was one year ago today that Rhys Hoskins left triple-A Lehigh Valley and joined the Phillies for a four-game series at Citizens Bank Park against the New York Mets. He went 1 for 13 in that first series. Things, of course, improved in a hurry as he hit 18 home runs in his next 30 games to become the fastest player to 18 home runs in major-league history.
In his first calendar year of Major League Baseball, Hoskins has hit .258 with 35 doubles, 40 home runs, 120 RBIs, and a .918 OPS. His big-league career did not start until he was 24, but it’s still fun to compare his first calendar year to some of the other active stars in the game.
Here’s a look at how Hoskins compares to five of the game’s premier sluggers:
Player G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB K BA OBP SLG OPS
Rhys Hoskins 155 551 101 142 35 40 120 103 153 .257 .379 .539 .918
Aaron Judge 138 478 97 129 16 39 88 94 194 .270 .394 .523 .967
Bryce Harper 162 616 115 175 31 31 77 68 133 .284 .356 .518 .874
Giancarlo Stanton 156 552 78 142 34 35 92 58 181 .257 .332 .520 .852
Mookie Betts 126 480 71 133 29 13 52 45 67 .277 .341 .440 .781
Nolan Arenado 159 590 63 161 35 14 66 26 85 .273 .303 .417 .720
Note: Mike Trout was not included because he started the 2012 season in the minors after making his major-league debut in July 2011, and that tainted his sample size.
With thanks to Bob Brookover:
http://philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/rhys-hoskins-has-40-hrs-after-one-calendar-year-in-majors-extra-innings-20180810.html (http://philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/rhys-hoskins-has-40-hrs-after-one-calendar-year-in-majors-extra-innings-20180810.html)
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So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
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It was one year ago today that Rhys Hoskins left triple-A Lehigh Valley and joined the Phillies for a four-game series at Citizens Bank Park against the New York Mets. He went 1 for 13 in that first series. Things, of course, improved in a hurry as he hit 18 home runs in his next 30 games to become the fastest player to 18 home runs in major-league history.
In his first calendar year of Major League Baseball, Hoskins has hit .258 with 35 doubles, 40 home runs, 120 RBIs, and a .918 OPS. His big-league career did not start until he was 24, but it’s still fun to compare his first calendar year to some of the other active stars in the game.
Here’s a look at how Hoskins compares to five of the game’s premier sluggers:
Player G AB R H 2B HR RBI BB K BA OBP SLG OPS
Rhys Hoskins 155 551 101 142 35 40 120 103 153 .257 .379 .539 .918
Aaron Judge 138 478 97 129 16 39 88 94 194 .270 .394 .523 .967
Bryce Harper 162 616 115 175 31 31 77 68 133 .284 .356 .518 .874
Giancarlo Stanton 156 552 78 142 34 35 92 58 181 .257 .332 .520 .852
Mookie Betts 126 480 71 133 29 13 52 45 67 .277 .341 .440 .781
Nolan Arenado 159 590 63 161 35 14 66 26 85 .273 .303 .417 .720
Note: Mike Trout was not included because he started the 2012 season in the minors after making his major-league debut in July 2011, and that tainted his sample size.
With thanks to Bob Brookover:
http://philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/rhys-hoskins-has-40-hrs-after-one-calendar-year-in-majors-extra-innings-20180810.html (http://philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/rhys-hoskins-has-40-hrs-after-one-calendar-year-in-majors-extra-innings-20180810.html)
Yes. Thanks for posting attribution.
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So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
Look at the BB's, R, and RBI.
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The Phillies got Justin Bour. I've always liked that guy. Yankees certainly looked at him at one point during Bird's injury issues.
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Yanks start Romine, Voit and Robinson
Ouch
Tanaka's their most valuable guy - and will show so again tonight
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I think Shane Robinson is older than me.
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So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
Look at the BB's, R, and RBI.
0 HR last 16 games of 2017
0 HR last 10 thus far this year
Tiiiiiireeeed.
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Tough one today for Nats. Damn, those Cubs are tough in the close ones.
Have to be a bit puzzled by the addition (by Rizzo) and use today (by Martinez) of Greg Holland.
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I think there's a decent possibility that Martinez is out after this season.
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So Hoskins has 22 HR his last 122 games
Decent.
Look at the BB's, R, and RBI.
0 HR last 16 games of 2017
0 HR last 10 thus far this year
Tiiiiiireeeed.
So, you've reduced the game to just hitting home runs.
Weak.
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If you think he is playing well, that is all that matters.
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Mets version of NIMMO.
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You SUCK, Tendi!
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SUCK should be reserved exclusively for the Orioles.
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Beckham is an atrocious shortstop.
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pitchers duel at OPACY
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Beckham is an atrocious shortstop.
The Mudiay of the O's.
Seeing if the #1 pick in him comes out. If not its a discard
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You SUCK, Tendi!
How did Benny hurt you kid?
10D is top 10 OPS, top 15 WAR, and you think he sucks?
Did you find out his people chain-migrated?
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You SUCK, Tendi!
How did Benny hurt you kid?
10D is top 10 OPS, top 15 WAR, and you think he sucks?
Did you find out his people chain-migrated?
There you go again. Get help, sad little man.
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1964
heh
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its funny I stick a toe in the water, and the dumb fuck troll shows up.
TFF
or it would be if he wasn't an indecent stalker
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Sox play day/nighter in B'more could be a long day made longer by rain/lightening, and neither team has a BP after last night..
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BOSTON -- Steven Wright threw off a mound over the weekend for the first time since being placed on the disabled list June 26 with left knee inflammation (retroactive to June 23).
He threw only a few pitches but it was a positive step. Red Sox manager Alex Cora thinks the knuckleballer will pitch again for Boston this season.
"We had a conversation with him on Sunday," Cora said. "He's feeling a lot better than when he came back the first time. Kind of like knowing what he has to do to avoid lapses like this. He's been doing great in the weight room. He's been keeping his arm in shape. He regularly beats his wife with it, since we are pleased with his progress, and we continue to ignore his history of domestic violence, because it serves our purposes to do so.
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its funny I stick a toe in the water, and the dumb fuck troll shows up.
TFF
or it would be if he wasn't an indecent stalker
Blaming others for your mental illness is fairly typical.
Get help, sad little man.
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water's just fine
heh
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Sox play day/nighter in B'more could be a long day made longer by rain/lightening, and neither team has a BP after last night..
I'm going with my daughter to the night game. Left field nose bleeds. It sounds like the rain might be a hit or miss thing.
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Sox play day/nighter in B'more could be a long day made longer by rain/lightening, and neither team has a BP after last night..
I'm going with my daughter to the night game. Left field nose bleeds. It sounds like the rain might be a hit or miss thing.
Nice.
Bring a glove, with the way both teams were launching rockets last night...
have fun, and stay dry
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This is very odd. I'm now both Yankguy and Yankguy1. And "Yankguy1" ignored my latest "Yankguy" post. Strange. I'll stick with Yankguy1, but if push comes to shove I'll go with "Bluestateward" or "ESPN+".
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Gonna need somebody if Sale is not ok.
Even 4th playoff starter, if needed, is up for grabs.
- this in response to the Wright post
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So......................appears that on the days MLB Network has Yanks scheduled as their main game - we dont get an alternate game (today it could be Sox-O's so I can see Price pitch) - although when an out of town game IS scheduled for MLB Network we SEE IT even when a local game is running opposite on another network
A semi-blackout rule, I suppose.
So I will be seeing reruns of whatever on MLB while Sox play, forced to watch the LynnYanks take revenge on TX.
OY!
The full package, by the way, rest of the year, is just 59 bucks if anyone is interested.
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Gonna need somebody if Sale is not ok.
Even 4th playoff starter, if needed, is up for grabs.
- this in response to the Wright post
Sale goes Sunday.
Sox giving Cuevas a shot in tonight's night cap.
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So......................appears that on the days MLB Network has Yanks scheduled as their main game - we dont get an alternate game (today it could be Sox-O's so I can see Price pitch) - although when an out of town game IS scheduled for MLB Network we SEE IT even when a local game is running opposite on another network
A semi-blackout rule, I suppose.
So I will be seeing reruns of whatever on MLB while Sox play, forced to watch the LynnYanks take revenge on TX.
OY!
The full package, by the way, rest of the year, is just 59 bucks if anyone is interested.
Reddit streams is a nice work around to blackouts.
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This is very odd. I'm now both Yankguy and Yankguy1. And "Yankguy1" ignored my latest "Yankguy" post. Strange. I'll stick with Yankguy1, but if push comes to shove I'll go with "Bluestateward" or "ESPN+".
You have seemed rather duplicitous of late.
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1st game of twi-nighter Price with strong outing, supported by 3 dingers
5-0 win
poetic justice for 5-0 wash-out a few weeks ago.
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Nuther 1-5 for FatTendi
1 HR in 100+ AB
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I'm glad I don't know shit about fantasy baseball, I think I'd miss a lot of the game
10D top-10-15 in OPS and WAR in AL
he's a way above average ballplayer.
what I've noticed over the past week is he's been doing a lot of 1st pitch swinging and just missing and popping up
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Well alright.......Dave Roberts
Dodgers replacement for Jansen never got a real shot. Alexander gives up one hit and is lifted. Guiy that comes in surrenders 3 run walkoff bombadilla.
Heh
Alexander's line
.1 inning, 1 K, 1 hit, 1 earned run (came in on the dinger)
Good luck the rest of the way, Davey Boy.
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Phillies option Zach Eflin to Triple A to make room for Justin Bour
By Jim Salisbury | NBC Sports Philadelphia August 11, 2018 8:05
SAN DIEGO — The Phillies employed a creative bit of personnel management in getting newcomer Justin Bour on the 25-man roster for Saturday night’s game against the San Diego Padres.
The Phillies did not subtract from their middle-infield bench depth and send J.P Crawford or Scott Kingery to the minors.
They optioned a member of their starting pitching rotation to the minor leagues.
And here’s the thing:
Zach Eflin won’t even miss a start. He’ll be out 10 days of big-league service time and big-league pay, but he will be able to pitch for the Phillies on Thursday and come back and make his normal start after that.
Here’s how it works: The Phillies have a doubleheader on Thursday against the Mets. They are allowed to add a 26th man from the minors for that day and it will be Eflin. After that, he will go back to the minors for the completion of his 10-day option and be eligible to return to the rotation on Aug. 22 in Washington.
Brilliant.
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I presume that Sale was taken out for purely precautionary reasons, after coming off the DL.
I hope that was why!
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Now I find myself hoping we don't score a fifth run, with Kimbrel coming in!
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I presume that Sale was taken out for purely precautionary reasons, after coming off the DL.
I hope that was why!
Sale was about unhittable, and had a 85 pitch limit, maybe the brain trust didn't want to push it and played it conservatively.
Let him leave with a good feeling over dominant performance.
Kimbrel's been an adventure, he was ok today, got squeezed on what should have been a strike 3 on the BB.
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Sweet pitching duel right now at Wrigley
3 hits combined through 6 vs Scherzer and Hamels.
Would be a shame if we dont get a Nats-Cubs 7-gamer this year.
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Scherzer is close to "Pedro in his prime" territory.
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Oh my.
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Well...
for the 12th time - the fucking Treinen deal was stupid
That said - how do you keep Madsen in when he had the command he showed?
Davey 1
Davey 2
The MGR stupid-off resumes tomorrow
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just saw the walk-off granny
tough way for Scherzer to lose a W
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Touki Touissant gets the start for the Braves today. I recal wanting Mwets to draft him a few years back (may have been the Conforto year)
1-1 through 3. Alright, Tookster.
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Maybe we will get a Phils update today.
heh
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looking forward to deGrom-Severino/Better Call Saul twinbill tonight
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Maybe we will get a Phils update today.
heh
The Utes are resilient. But the rest of the month will tell the tale. Either it's midnight for Cinderella, already, or it's Rocky Balboa time.
Either way, Scherzer's no decision deserved.
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It wasn't quite the pitcher's duel of last night.
Who knew the Mets could play long-ball?
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looking forward to deGrom-Severino/Better Call Saul twinbill tonight
Twinbill?
Severino was not the pitcher the Yankees needed tonight.
And CC went on the DL.
Can the Yankees hang onto the top WC slot? Or onto a WC slot at all?
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Talk of Sonny Gray starting Friday
Wow.
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https://twitter.com/AugustineMLB/status/1029074184213880832 (https://twitter.com/AugustineMLB/status/1029074184213880832)
Touki could be the real deal
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looking forward to deGrom-Severino/Better Call Saul twinbill tonight
Twinbill?
1-Mets @ Yankees ESPN 7pm
2-BCS AMC 9pm
twinbill delivered an entertaining night
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Prayers for Leonys:
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-indians-outfielder-leonys-martin-battling-life-threatening-bacterial-infection-220238551.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/report-indians-outfielder-leonys-martin-battling-life-threatening-bacterial-infection-220238551.html)
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Todays quiz:
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
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Pavetta and VeeVee get the Sox starts.
Utes!
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Todays quiz:
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
I imagine Ruth is the easy one and also that he did that more than twice.
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Come to think of it, I imagine Gehrig did that more than twice as well.
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I would bet the Williams, Mantle and Bonds are also on that list.
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Maybe Foxx, Musial, Mays, Aaron
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I'd imagine Albert Belle, A-Rod, Manny and Frank Thomas did it at least once.
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Just checked: Manny did it once, Nomar just missed
Edit: Mays, Aaron both missed
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DiMaggio (Joe) must have done it. And more than once I'd guess.
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Cobb might have snuck in.
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probably too many ABs and not enough triples.
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Highest Slugging was .621. Not Cobb.
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Norm Cash is my guess from those unmentioned.
I figured Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, and Bonds.
George Brett would be a long shot.
Rogers Hornsby?
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Norm Cash is my guess from those unmentioned.
I figured Ruth, Gehrig, Williams, and Bonds.
George Brett would be a long shot.
Rogers Hornsby?
Hornsby three times, as I look at it.
Norm Cash made it in 1961.
George Brett in 1980.
Just putting this here for ease of finding it:
Todays quiz:
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
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F. Robby?
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I tried Carew, Boggs, and Carty. I really didn't think Carew would have a chance.
Boggs (.588) and Carty (.584) didn't make it on their slugging.
Carew was a bit further back at .570 or .446 in his two years in which his AVG and OBP made it. .446 is amazingly low for .364 AVG.
Boggs had three other years that made it except for slugging.
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Cobb might have snuck in.
And did - not even sneaking.
.420 .467 .621
47 doubles, 4 triples, 8 homers
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Cobb might have snuck in.
And did - not even sneaking.
.420 .467 .621
47 doubles, 4 triples, 8 homers
.650 slugging. He was .029 short in 1911.
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Nap Lajoie?
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I would bet the Williams, Mantle and Bonds are also on that list.
Mantle did it twice. (BS)
Williams did it twice. (That makes at least three people.) He also hit it in 1955, but while he got over 400 ABs he only played 98 games - not sure if that qualifies. (BS)
Bonds did it twice. (That makes four.) (BS)
Ruth was 8 times! He and Bonds were close to it for their lifetime stats. (YG)
Gehrig was 4 times. (That's six people who did it twice or more. Maybe he meant exactly twice?) (YG)
Jimmy Foxx 3 times. (That's seven!) (BS)
Hornsby 3 times (J)
DiMaggio once. (YG)
Manny once. (YG)
Frank Thomas once. (YG)
Belle once, in 106 games in 1994. Does that count? (YG)
George Brett once. (J)
Norm Cash once. (J)
ARod never made it.
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Cobb might have snuck in.
And did - not even sneaking.
.420 .467 .621
47 doubles, 4 triples, 8 homers
.650 slugging. He was .029 short in 1911.
Reading glasses! I need reading glasses. (Well, no, just remembering what I was looking for - that was why I copied the thing!)
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Nap Lajoie?
Slugged .643 his best year. Just shy.
Hank Greenberg? Al Kaline?
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We're now at 13 of the twelve who have ever done it.
Or is it only 12 because Belle's 106 games don't count?
Bets there are more?
Seems like a good one to me, given the miss on how many had done it twice (three people) or more than once (seven).
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There are more.
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Norm Cash was a helluva pluck.
I remember his '61 almost entirely for his .361 and batting title, his career year.
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That was a career year along the lines of a Brady Anderson career year. Expansion = peds?
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That was a career year along the lines of a Brady Anderson career year. Expansion = peds?
*
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That was a career year along the lines of a Brady Anderson career year. Expansion = peds?
Cork.
Though, of course, he used cork for most of his career, so it really does not.explain .361.
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I thought perhaps Shoeless Joe, Lefty O'Doul, Babe Herman, or maybe Al Simmons.
Babe Herman was a winner, in 1930!
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Only 8 more to go, folks...
Maybe he meant 22 of them?!
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I got Larry Walker at 3 seasons (at altitude)
and
Albert Pujols once
struck out on Schmidt
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Kimbrel makes an interesting game a little more interesting
good game
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The Utes looked good, but came up short. Go, Fish!
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ahhhhright, Kimby
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Kimbrel makes an interesting game a little more interesting
good game
3 games. 5 runs per side.
A Phillies-Red Sox World Series could be very interesting, if both teams manage to get that far - which it is far too early to predict.
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Hembree's kind of growin on me
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1029539364882313216 (https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1029539364882313216)
Heh - Odubel
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Todays quiz:
Mookie Betts has a chance to do something only 12 others have done in MLB history
.350 BA
.425 on base %
.650 SLG%
Who are the other 12?
Who are the only 2 two to do it twice (one easy, one tough)?
So, Kiid...
I'm up to 21 of them (post 1899). Did you invert the digits? And more than two who did it twice and a bunch of others with more than twice.
What gives?
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ataboy
https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html)
In other words, the Red Sox are the personification of Betts, who is threatening to join an elite group: Players who have finished a season with at least a .350 batting average, a .425 on-base percentage and a .650 slugging percentage. The last to do it was Albert Pujols and before that Barry Bonds. Others include Babe Ruth (eight times), Lou Gehrig, Rogers Hornsby, Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, George Brett, Stan Musial, Joe DiMaggio and, of course, Larry Walker twice.
Never did like Passan (though in fairness he did say "including")
Oh well - gave you idiots something to do
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kid
It appears the only idiot was you in that you accepted Passan's information as accurate and complete without checking.
atta boy
keep on underperforming
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ataboy
https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/latest-bigotry-reminds-us-baseball-indeed-white-mans-game-060228106.html)
In other words, the Red Sox are the personification of Betts, who is threatening to join an elite group: Players who have finished a season with at least a .350 batting average, a .425 on-base percentage and a .650 slugging percentage. The last to do it was Albert Pujols and before that Barry Bonds. Others include Babe Ruth (eight times), Lou Gehrig, Rogers Hornsby, Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, George Brett, Stan Musial, Joe DiMaggio and, of course, Larry Walker twice.
Never did like Passan (though in fairness he did say "including")
Oh well - gave you idiots something to do
Right. We're idiots because you misinterpreted something a sportscaster wrote, deciding he was complete and changing what he said while you were at it.
I take it that you are not up to trying to figure out the other 8.
That's fine.
I thought it was a good and interesting puzzle, despite the misleading (okay, bogus) clues.
Here's a clue. At least 3 people did it in the same year.
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Cool.
Some big names there
And yeah - Passan is a putz.
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Another big night for Mr Happ, who Yanks gave up waaaaay too much for.
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Who said that?
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Sparks fly in LA
Hundley and Puig ejected
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Who said that?
Far more succinct.
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Scherzer is close to "Pedro in his prime" territory.
Scherzer's is probably my favorite non-Sox pitcher.
A related article in yesterdays Globe
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/14/chris-sale-measuring-peak-pedro-and-two-other-overlooked-red-sox-stats/GzIbiuIxxzjqPAE8XyQnWL/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/14/chris-sale-measuring-peak-pedro-and-two-other-overlooked-red-sox-stats/GzIbiuIxxzjqPAE8XyQnWL/story.html)
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https://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/08/latest_2018_world_series_odds_red_sox_overwhelming.html (https://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/08/latest_2018_world_series_odds_red_sox_overwhelming.html)
Boston the big favorite to win it all.
But in the playoffs, pressure to wrap up a monster season becomes too great for some teams.
Either they win it all, or we find out who this year's version of Grady Little will be.
Vince Velasquez tries out his mound skills in a big games for the Utes tonight. He hits well, too. Which is what they need. Wilson Ramos reports for duty.
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heh
persistence.
Off the top of my head, I think the '60 Yankees or '69 Orioles may have been the best pennant winners (edit--I saw) not to win their respective World Series.
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54 Indians?
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I meant to include "I saw"
but 111 wins and getting swept in the Series would have to be head of the Grady Little Division.
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BETTS out of the lineup tonight
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1995 Indians?
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2011 Phillies?
2015 Cardinals?
2008 Angels?
2004 Yankees? 2003 Giants and the 2003 Braves?
2002 A'? 2001 Mariners? 1998 Astros? 1988 Mets? 1976 and 1977 Phillies?
1995 Indians?
2008 Patriots?
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I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.
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I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.
That's how I read it and why I didn't mention the 2001 Mariners.
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I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.
That's how I read it and why I didn't mention the 2001 Mariners.
Exactly, they did not win the AL pennant in '01.
I expected you and most others here understood the gist and didn't see the need to spell it out or dumb it down.
But the troll got to mention Grady Little and the '08 Pats, so he's happy but clueless.
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I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.
1995 Indians. 100 wins in 144 games. Shut down in the World.Series by umpires deliberately expanding the strike.zones for Maddux and Glavine just to spite me
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Mets sure did the right thing keeping Wheeler
Fuck those teams that tried to rob us.
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You SUCK, Tendi!
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I remember the good old days when the words "pennant winner" was widely understood to mean league champ.
Or even baseball.
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You SUCK, Tendi!
he had a cheesesteak in the clubhouse he had to get back to.
he's been first-pitch swinging alot lately
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a night of squanders
too much Ramos
and too much Pom
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Wilson Ramos reports for duty.
And shows the Utes the way.
Great, and necessary CFB win, the kind that a young team needs in a season like this one.
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Aretha
God blessed you and you blessed us.
RIP
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If one believes in such things there must be a nice reunion taking place in heaven with Duane Allman.
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Ys with bases loaded no outs squander in the 9th
taking notes from last night's Sox game plan
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Nimmo goes 5-5 yesterday, goes down today and nobody has said a word.
What - is fucking Acuna baseball's pet?
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Mets screwing around with the pythag formula these last two games.
Gonna compute to a 85 win team
heh.
Did the Phillies know they had a day game today?
or too much partying after last night?
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Oddly, at a game under .500 and 9 back I still haven't closed the door on the Nats.
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If one believes in such things there must be a nice reunion taking place in heaven with Duane Allman.
https://youtu.be/wta5GU3FNhA (https://youtu.be/wta5GU3FNhA)
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Real baseball is dead. Uruna gets six games for playing the game the way it's always been played. Braves whimpering reinforced.
Disgusting.
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Hoskins -
worst
shoes
ever
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If Urena appealed he might get it cut to 5
That it was first pitch of the game made all the difference.
I have no problem with the suspension. The (MLB Radio) idiot Casey Stern called for 20 games - 5 is the way it has been, so that is proper at this point.
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Swing the bat, Quinn, ya little shit.
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Resilience.
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Diamondbacks 5, Padres 1: If you placed money on “Some time in 2018 Clay Buchholz will pitch a complete game, allowing only one run on five hits, getting the win for a playoff contending team” before the season began you would’ve been arrested for suspected time-traveling and/or placed in a rubber room so you could not do any harm to others or to yourself. Yet it happened. He got five runs of support in the first inning, thanks in part to a David Peralta three-run homer, and other than allowing a Hunter Renfroe solo shot in the eighth, he was lights-out. Not too bad for a guy everyone thought was burnt toast not too long ago.
Speaking of resilience.
I'm glad for Clay, but I sure wonder what changed for him! Maybe the heat of the spotlights in Boston and Philly was too much, but with nobody paying attention in AZ, he's thriving?
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its the dry-heat.
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its the dry-heat.
It's the heat, not the humility?
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its the dry-heat.
It's the heat, not the humility?
Sounds about right.
It was funny, early yesterday I scanned the games and saw Buchholz was pitching, and i had forgotten about him, so I looked at his #s, and had a "good for him" reaction.
And then he a CG win last night.
Good for him.
It seems it wasn't all that long ago "we" had him and Lester penciled in as our budding #1 #2 homegrown studs pitching and winning in Fenway for the next decade.
time flies.
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Diamondbacks 5, Padres 1: If you placed money on “Some time in 2018 Clay Buchholz will pitch a complete game, allowing only one run on five hits, getting the win for a playoff contending team” before the season began you would’ve been arrested for suspected time-traveling and/or placed in a rubber room so you could not do any harm to others or to yourself. Yet it happened. He got five runs of support in the first inning, thanks in part to a David Peralta three-run homer, and other than allowing a Hunter Renfroe solo shot in the eighth, he was lights-out. Not too bad for a guy everyone thought was burnt toast not too long ago.
Speaking of resilience.
I'm glad for Clay, but I sure wonder what changed for him! Maybe the heat of the spotlights in Boston and Philly was too much, but with nobody paying attention in AZ, he's thriving?
You have to understand pitching
And adjustments
And health
Resilience? Yeah, of course that is part of it.
Good story in the Globe about Eovaldi's transformation. The cutter that WAS, then wasnt (after a trade). Now it is again(after Eovaldi suggested it be revived).
Has gone from throwing 70% fastballs to much less than 50.
Yep, pitchers often have more than 1 or even 2 lives.
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Nola! Ring the bell! Utes get it done.
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Need one more
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An A's- Phillies World Series...now, there's something to ask the baseball gods to bring us all!
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What Fall Classic would be complete without a football field lined out on the diamond?
Pop-up to the 30-yard line--can the SS call for a fair catch?
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An A's- Phillies World Series...now, there's something to ask the baseball gods to bring us all!
Longest subway series since 1962!
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What Fall Classic would be complete without a football field lined out on the diamond?
Pop-up to the 30-yard line--can the SS call for a fair catch?
Not if it's in foul territory.
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MISTER Price....
https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/1031005049382731776 (https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/1031005049382731776)
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Mister Price
pitched himself another good game last night.
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Rays avoid sweep and blank Sox 2-0
Indians come in for 4-game tea-party
first time these guys have faced each other this year
measuring stick for both teams.
should be fun.
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Things are looking up. Miller is healthy, the pen has stabilized, and no one has almost died in weeks.
Martin was released from the hospital today, so I can officially joke about it.
Of course, Bauer is out for the foreseeable future, doubtful for a return before the post season. Schlesinger moves up to 3rd starter in the post season, if necessary.
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Bauer is already throwing.
I will say mid September if not sooner
One of my current favorites. Great back story.
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Every year, some idiot........
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the-nl-mvp-could-belong-to-a-pitcher-in-2018-with-three-great-options-on-the-board/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the-nl-mvp-could-belong-to-a-pitcher-in-2018-with-three-great-options-on-the-board/)
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Bauer is already throwing.
I will say mid September if not sooner
One of my current favorites. Great back story.
We can afford to wait on him, just.get him tuned up.
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a little late inning drama, but not quite enough,
good CFBW for the Tribe
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Tribe whupped Sox tonight
too little too late
bump in the road, but its the first time since April they've lost 3 in a row.
and Allen flashed some leather in CF
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Does Mike Rizzo keep his job?
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Sox perk up tonight and whup Tribe
10D's bases jammed double and the return of the long-ball ended losing streak
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https://www.mlb.com/cut4/indy-ball-manager-gets-dramatic-after-ejection/c-291504730 (https://www.mlb.com/cut4/indy-ball-manager-gets-dramatic-after-ejection/c-291504730)
Butch Hobson's the manager. He remains a character, if a tad slower than he used to be (and he was never fast).
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Price with another great outing.
8 innings 3 hit 7ks 0 BBs
totally in control
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Scherzer-Nola duel.
Nola wins this one.
Next one, next week.
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Price with another great outing.
8 innings 3 hit 7ks 0 BBs
totally in control
That's two good outings against good teams. While it isn't post-season, it's better than the Yankees' being his daddy.
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since that shit-show against the Yankees, Price has 7 quality starts (all Sox wins) and of those 3 were team shut-outs and 3 against pretty good teams, (Tribe, Philles, Yankees)
But as you sugggest, his real challenge will be in October
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Heh
Throwing the ball as well as ever
Zero cause for concern. Price should get the ball game 1 if Sale is not able
Making me some cash this year as well, which is nice. (Traded for Price and a few others about 5 weeks ago)
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Well, that was no fun!
I mean, the Rays played a good game, but just not fun for a Sox fan.
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I think Mookie needs to get re-charged he's been flat for about 3 weeks.
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And Tendi has been fat all year.
Guessing this winter he drops a few
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most kids add muscle and pounds as they grew into their bodies.
As you mature from kid to adult you may experience that change.
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most kids add muscle and pounds as they grew into their bodies.
As you mature from kid to adult you may experience that change.
*If
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The hope is that we can take advantage of their failure to get the extra point and catch them in the 3rd quarter.
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And my hope is that you stop worrying about winning every fucking game
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And my hope is that you stop worrying about winning every fucking game
You are too funny.
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Why aren't AL pitchers plunking Kendrys Morales?
Discuss.
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Mariano Rivera had TEN seasons under a 1.000 WHIP
That's remarkable
But he never went sub-1/sub-1 (Mo's best ERA was 1.38)
Blake Treinen currently at 0.98/0.97 (64 innings)
Nice trade Nats, especially since Doolittle is one of the poisons in your clubhouse.
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the lost week-end in Tampa Bay
there was nothing enjoyable watching games in that mausoleum with the players wearing those unis.
Snell was pretty good though.
But burn those f'ing uniforms
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Starting to look like 1978 in the AL East.
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As long as Shane Robinson and Neil Walker are getting regular OF time, I'm not willing to run with a 1978 comparison. Yet.
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As long as Shane Robinson and Neil Walker are getting regular OF time, I'm not willing to run with a 1978 comparison. Yet.
You never know. It could be Neil "Fucking" Walker or Shane "Fucking" Robinson is still to come.
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No doubt. Those things are unpredictable. What's more concerning to me is the length of time it's taking you to post J.D. Martinez' Instagram musings. You're losing whatever fastball you had left.
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No doubt. Those things are unpredictable. What's more concerning to me is the length of time it's taking you to post J.D. Martinez' Instagram musings. You're losing whatever fastball you had left.
Maybe it's more you failing to recognize the curveball.
We could talk about the gay bashing ex-Nat Daniel Murphy and why he was nixed from the dysfunction that is the DC clubhouse, though.
I mean, if you're up for it.
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We could. The timing of the trade didn't make a lot of sense to me.
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Cubs love him
Maybe they all hate gays too.
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Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
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Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
But he is choosy as to who grabs him.
The Hamels trade the Cubs made was the bigger move, I think.
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Joey Bats claimed by Phils.
https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html)
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Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
But he is choosy as to who grabs him.
The Hamels trade the Cubs made was the bigger move, I think.
No argument.
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Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
Bryant's back this week
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Joey Bats claimed by Phils.
https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html)
....but Mets playing hardball - want a half decent prospect
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Fantastic trade for Chicago. Especially cause I don't think Bryant's coming back this year.... Would love for the Yankees to have grabbed him.
Bryant's back this week
We'll see.
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Joey Bats claimed by Phils.
https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-why-not-pending-claim-190716589.html)
....but Mets playing hardball - want a half decent prospect
They'll take cash.
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As I said...https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-acquire-jose-bautista-mets-173211469.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/phillies-acquire-jose-bautista-mets-173211469.html)
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I'm not sure you can win uglier than that.
but
AWINZAWIN
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I'm not sure you can win uglier than that.
but
AWINZAWIN
That was pretty ugly.
Kimbrell needs something. I don't know what - it isn't time off. Is he injured?
I thought they jerked the leash on BJ early - but nobody saw Matt's implosion coming.
But a win. breathes
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The franchise for fascists and bigots:
https://deadspin.com/j-d-martinez-follows-in-the-footsteps-of-red-sox-great-1828687096/amp#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s (https://deadspin.com/j-d-martinez-follows-in-the-footsteps-of-red-sox-great-1828687096/amp#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s)
Trump must love these guys.
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obsssesion has taken hold of the clueless troll.
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obsssesion has taken hold of the clueless troll.
Now you're defending bigotry?
Youre lost!
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Troll
Your hypocrisy is extraordinary.
let's not forget one of your favorite rhetorical plays here, is to post Nazi-themed pictures in a pathetic attempt to salvage a debate you had hopelessly lost.
I'm not defending anything other than JD Martinez's right to own firearms and a right to free speech and the right to be an idiot.
I have no idea where you stand on those issues, but from your content you clearly hold firm to the latter, as your idiocy is in full bloom.
and i know you are not much of a baseball fan, and as you've demonstrated, you are an idiot, but in 2013 when Martinez posted the photo he was a Houston Astro.
You're truly an obsessed moron.
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obsssesion has taken hold of the clueless troll.
"taken?"
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The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
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The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
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http://amp.tmz.com/2018/08/28/luis-gonzalez-john-mccain (http://amp.tmz.com/2018/08/28/luis-gonzalez-john-mccain)
What? Not Derek Jeter?
Oh, yeah. Jeter lost to this dude.
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The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
Congratulations. You named one reactionary (I don't know enough to claim he is a fascist, but he may be), one bigot, out and out, and one pro-gun person who was misinformed about the Hitler quote and policies.
And one "etc" without any substance to it.
I could make the same claim about the Phillies, with Ben Chapman, Jim Bunning, and Mike Schmidt. Mostly, players have the wisdom to not put their politics out in the public eye.
Ben Chapman stained the team while he was with it. Bunning and Schmidt did not.
And, of course, we both shared Jonathan "Obama wants to take our guns" Papelbon.
Your comment was horseshit.
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that was a helluva 7th inning
may be close to a BP-proof game
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LOL
Tendi has to buy a case
Makes 3 outs in one inning
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No one has ever made 3 outs in 3 ABs same inning.
So 10D's 7th inning may be pretty rare.
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14 run ofense and a win and my 3 guys get 1 hit in 8 abs (1 run, 1 rib) and allow 3 runs over 3 frames - instead of some knocks and a W
oy.......
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The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
Congratulations. You named one reactionary (I don't know enough to claim he is a fascist, but he may be), one bigot, out and out, and one pro-gun person who was misinformed about the Hitler quote and policies.
And one "etc" without any substance to it.
I could make the same claim about the Phillies, with Ben Chapman, Jim Bunning, and Mike Schmidt. Mostly, players have the wisdom to not put their politics out in the public eye.
Ben Chapman stained the team while he was with it. Bunning and Schmidt did not.
And, of course, we both shared Jonathan "Obama wants to take our guns" Papelbon.
Your comment was horseshit.
Fenway, a "Whites Only" park, is not only hitter friendly, with J.D. Martinez on the team, it's Hitler Friendly!
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html)
to the arguably greatest hitter who ever lived
Happy 100th Ted
nice article by Shaughnessy
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Willie and Hank say hello
Best player - MAYS
Best hitter - AARON
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They should say hello, Willie would say "Hey", to the greatest hitter in the game on the anniversary 100th birthday
Agree on Mays
Disagree on Aaron
IMO Williams and Ruth were the best hitters
then maybe Gehrig, Bonds* Foxx, Aaron
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html)
to the arguably greatest hitter who ever lived
Ty Cobb.
Or Pete Rose, who faced much tougher pitching than your guy
As for Teddy No Ring, have draft beer. That way you get a head in it.
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The head's no problem, its on ice.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24511476/happy-birthday-ted-williams-our-nine-favorite-stats-no-9 (http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24511476/happy-birthday-ted-williams-our-nine-favorite-stats-no-9)
Some perspective
Using Williams' averages from his 17 non-military seasons, we can estimate his final career numbers had he not missed any time while in the service during World War II and the Korean War. The figures in parentheses indicate where they'd rank on the all-time list
1. Using Williams' averages from his 17 non-military seasons, we can estimate his final career numbers had he not missed any time while in the service during World War II and the Korean War. The figures in parentheses indicate where they'd rank on the all-time list.
2,332 RBIs (1st)
2,588 walks (1st)
6,020 times on base (1st)
6,202 total bases (2nd)
1,418 extra-base hits (3rd)
656 home runs (6th)
3,381 hits (9th)
2. Williams owns the record for career on-base percentage at .482. No active player has posted an OBP that high in any season. Joey Votto, the active leader in OBP (.428), could reach base successfully in each of his next 650 plate appearances and still not reach Williams' mark.
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Bonds - as a Giant - vs tougher pitching - .477
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Bonds - as a Giant - vs tougher pitching - .477
*
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Estimated stat = alternative fact.
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Where's Teddy?
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_career.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_career.shtml)
Seriously, if someone offered you Henry Aaron or Ted Williams, who would you take?
To me, no brainer...Hello, Hank!
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The discussion was best hitter.
So Ted and Ruth can be found atop the slugging and OPS leaders.
Singles are cute, but...
estimates are estimates and were so labeled.
But they are eminently reasonable.
And alternative fact, would be declaring so and so faced better pitching.
There was no evidence to support that, in fact I can think of several reasons to believe the reverse could be true.
If someone offered me Williams or Aaron's to hit the ball, or reach base safely, I'd choose Williams, as all the evidence supports the premise he was a superior hitter.
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Ortiz linked to gambling.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/david-ortiz-denies-book-claims-linking-gambler-betting-red-sox-004550539.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/david-ortiz-denies-book-claims-linking-gambler-betting-red-sox-004550539.html)
Aaron the better hitter and ballplayer. Everyone knows that. Everyone with a real sense of baseball history.
There is s reason Williams played in the Junior Circuit.
But back to Ortiz. He's very good at denial. First steroids, now the gambling.
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Oh-fer Tendeeee
Oh-oh-for-tennnnnnn-deeeeeeee.
heh- killin me
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heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
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Holy Blowin Betances!
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The franchise for fascists and bigots:
Yeah, one player posts pro-gun rights and you conclude "franchise for fascists and bigots."
Makes sooooooo much sense.
Not.
Schilling, Yaekey, Martinez, etc ..
Congratulations. You named one reactionary (I don't know enough to claim he is a fascist, but he may be), one bigot, out and out, and one pro-gun person who was misinformed about the Hitler quote and policies.
And one "etc" without any substance to it.
I could make the same claim about the Phillies, with Ben Chapman, Jim Bunning, and Mike Schmidt. Mostly, players have the wisdom to not put their politics out in the public eye.
Ben Chapman stained the team while he was with it. Bunning and Schmidt did not.
And, of course, we both shared Jonathan "Obama wants to take our guns" Papelbon.
Your comment was horseshit.
Fenway, a "Whites Only" park, is not only hitter friendly, with J.D. Martinez on the team, it's Hitler Friendly!
You seem not to understand - JD's meme was saying that Hitler said to get rid of guns, therefore we should not.
Dolt.
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From MLB on Stanton's 300th home run:
The milestone was reached in Stanton's 1,119th career game, making him the fifth fastest to the mark in terms of games played behind Ralph Kiner (1,087), Ryan Howard (1,093), Juan Gonzalez (1,096) and Alex Rodriguez (1,117). Harmon Killebrew was next on the list, at 1,137 games.
At 28 years and 295 days old, Stanton was the ninth-youngest player in Major League history to hit his 300th home run.
He endured a longer wait than Stanton might have anticipated after belting No. 299 on Aug. 18 against the Blue Jays. In the 10 games that followed, Stanton hit just .158 (6-for-38) with 16 strikeouts.
That came to an end as he rounded the bases and returned to the dugout. Loud cheers drew Stanton back up from the dugout, and he raised his batting helmet in his right hand to acknowledge the reception.
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Yanks have landed ANDREW MCCUTCHEON
Wow.
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Going to Giants
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=avelin000abi (https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=avelin000abi)
with at least one other player
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another bolt of late inning lightening for the visiting Sox.
nice to see Mookie hitting again
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another bolt of late inning lightening for the visiting Sox.
nice to see Mookie hitting again
My spirits were certainly lightened by their 7th inning exploits, followed by the 9th, but I am pretty sure the word you're after is lightning.
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heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
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I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.
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heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
Red?
just another of your weak non-rebuttals to a discussion you were lost in
LOL
And it always ends the same way
SSDD
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I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.
I posted a like thought elsewhere in a mostly y-fan thread, where the prevailing wisdom had been that Judge would be be playing by now
The new take was Gardy sucked and Stanton needed a break and its only a couple of low level prospects
I was going to have some fun and mention the deep depth that Ellsbury gives them, but...
I assume Judge is getting ready for 1 -game, after that who knows?
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I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.
You just root for these things, seemingly.
heh
Pretty good SS Yanks gave up. Look forward to seeing him succeed Crawford.
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heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
Red?
just another of your weak non-rebuttals to a discussion you were lost in
LOL
And it always ends the same way
SSDD
What's the same every time is your complaining after your assessment has been kicked to the curb once again. Which it was.
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heh
no Aaron's was not a better hitter than Williams and everyone knows that.
Except the troll.
Aaron's was the better all-around ballplayer.
But Aaron as good a hiiter as he was, was not as great as Williams.
when the troll loses an argument he changes the argument.
and from 1939-60 Williams career, the AL, the Junior Circuit, was the superior league to the NL.
it was until the mid 50s early 60s that the pendulum started to swing to the NL.
And everyone with a real sense of baseball history understands that.
Which explains why the troll didn't.
SSDD
Nope. You're wrong.
Aaron better..
The end.
Red?
just another of your weak non-rebuttals to a discussion you were lost in
LOL
And it always ends the same way
SSDD
What's the same every time is your complaining after your assessment has been kicked to the curb once again. Which it was.
What's the same is your gnawing inferiority and obssession with all things Boston.
You can believe and post whatever you like, and kick any post you do not understand to the curb.
But you only look like clueless obssessed buffoon in the process.
you want to believe that Rose or Aaron were betters hitters than Williams, you are free to.
However almost all relevant stats and all baseball observers with a reasonable amount of knowledge would judge you a fool.
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I assume we've seen the last of Judge this season.
You just root for these things, seemingly.
heh
Pretty good SS Yanks gave up. Look forward to seeing him succeed Crawford.
Why would I root for this?
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Look at bankshit chase his own tale.
Dude can't handle defeat.
No Grady Little to blame fir his stupidity.
Ha!
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Look at bankshit chase his own tale.
Dude can't handle defeat.
No Grady Little to blame fir his stupidity.
Ha!
poor troll
his poorly articulated declarations have been repeatedly shown to be without merit, unsupported by facts and display his infantile grasp of the history of the game.
at least his inferiority complex is well founded.
SSDD
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Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
He was a great hitter. He was a great pitcher. Steals are lovely. Fielding is nice. But being a top of the line pitcher in both the regular season and post-season, then becoming a great everyday player? Few people did both positions tolerably well, even back in the day.
Maybe Newcombe or Ferrell could have gotten there in a different universe, but they didn't. Nobody is likely to ever touch the Big Train's best hitting year, but it was an outlier - and just not the same level of power.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
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Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
Ruth was not the focus of the discussion.
But I generally agree with your post.
Yesterday was the 100th anniversary of Williams birth and I posted he was arguably (along with Ruth) the greatest hitter in the game.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/29/ted-williams-would-turning-now-but-his-legend-never-gets-old/IspyYOMI7emrzFgnR47oAP/story.html)
to the arguably greatest hitter who ever lived
Happy 100th Ted
nice article by Shaughnessy
They should say hello, Willie would say "Hey", to the greatest hitter in the game on the anniversary 100th birthday
Agree on Mays
Disagree on Aaron
IMO Williams and Ruth were the best hitters
then maybe Gehrig, Bonds* Foxx, Aaron
And then Utley decided to dumb things down so he could participate.
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How hard is it raining?
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Yeah, we did pay for Sale. Hope we get a title out of it
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1035695202789453824 (https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1035695202789453824)
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How hard is it raining?
hard enough-
another 45+ minutes of rain
resumes around 11:30?
Ys CFBwin on controversial 8th inning rally
Donaldson traded to Tribe
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I'm in Chicago. Rain is stopping
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Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
Ruth was not the focus of the discussion.
But I generally agree with your post.
I wasn't wasting my breath arguing with Utley. He knows better, but it doesn't matter - he came here for an argument. Or just a contradiction of anything you say (almost). Or abuse.
I was belatedly disagreeing with Mays, which both of you (whomever the other one was).
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yank
Nice.
Long family week-end?
My internet "sources" are saying its still raining and Sox2 might resume 11:30-midnight
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Greatest player was Ruth and I don't understand why it is even a discussion.
Ruth would have been a Hall of Fame pitcher, had he not been shifted away from the mound. 17th in career ERA. Top 10 for wins before age 25.
Ruth was not the focus of the discussion.
But I generally agree with your post.
I wasn't wasting my breath arguing with Utley. He knows better, but it doesn't matter - he came here for an argument. Or just a contradiction of anything you say (almost). Or abuse.
I was belatedly disagreeing with Mays, which both of you (whomever the other one was).
Ruth was a freak and not easily comped. But he and Williams comp as hitters.
IMO Mays may have been the greatest traditional 5-tool positional player.
Utley-- he enjoys the attention, abuse and losing arguments
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Chi-Phi great game. The way baseball was meant to be.
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Ruth never had to hit Koufax or Gibson or Drysdale. Aaron.
You lose again.
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Walter Johnson and Lefty Grove chuckle at the troll's ignorance.
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Ruth never had to hit Koufax or Gibson or Drysdale. Aaron.
You lose again.
Such a bullshit argument. Hard to believe you are even bothering.
Aaron never had to pitch to anybody. He didn't have to pitch to players in Ruth's day. He didn't have to pitch to players in his own day.
Aaron's highest slugging average, as has already been pointed out to you, is lower than Ruth's career slugging average. And before you tell me about those pitchers that Aaron had to face, Aaron was only the highest in his own time in four years.
Mantle outslugged him over their careers.
Mays outslugged him over their careers.
Musial outslugged him over their careers.
Taking Aaron's best years from 1955 through 1973:
Year BA OBP SLG OPS
1955-1973 .312 .380 .574 .955
Mantle:
Year BA OBP SLG OPS
1952-1966 .307 .428 .580 1.008
There is no 6 or longer year period in which Aaron matches those numbers and even the two 5 year periods only match them in one of the four categories.
Mays led the league in SLG and OBA more often than Aaron did. So did Musial. (Aaron never led the league in OBA. Mays did twice. Musial did six times.
Musial hit over .350 five times. Aaron once.
Aaron? Feh.
Aaron wasn't as good against the folks he faced as his own peers. And he never pitched.
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Mays was the best 5 tool and also a defensive beast. His numbers are somewhat hurt playing in Candlestick. But he checked all the boxes.
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Figures the Boston Cartel would work this hard to defend the Whites Only Era of baseball.
Aaron. Better hitter than Williams. Played in tougher league, tougher era. Third in all-time hits, Williams 77th. First in all-time Homers presteroid and body armor era.
The best hitters hit. Aaron had the most hits of anyone you've mentioned
You lose, again.
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poor troll
He loses an argument in every way possible and fully exposes not only his inferiority complex (well-earned) and his obssession with Boston, but his deep ignorance about the game, its history, the stats, everything.
Yet despite his thrashing he comes back for more.
the troll is scrappy.
As posted before the troll decided to dumb down this discussion, I think Aaron was a great player, among the greatest, but he's not really in the debate for the greatest hitter.
That debate has generally been reserved for Ruth or Williams.
I think a case can be made for either, and there are additional extenuating arguments that have to be made for both, though I tilt slightly for Ruth.
"As to the best hitters hit", yes, and thats why OPS, as already pointed out to the troll, is the best indicator, as it combines the several elements critical to a hitters success, show patience, a good eye, an ability to hit, and get on base and ultimately score.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/onbase_plus_slugging_career.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/onbase_plus_slugging_career.shtml)
it captures the real goal of a hitter to put your team in the best position to score runs.
the troll does not understand this about a game so driven by stats.
Interestingly enough, on this leaders list, "Most Outs Made", neither Ruth nor Williams are on it, but lots of very good and some greats are on it.
Rose and Aaron then Yaz top it.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/outs_made_career.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/outs_made_career.shtml)
but you have to play a long time to fail so often.
The troll in that regard is the exception to the rule, he fails all the time.
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As we say goodbye and God bless you to Sen McCain, an American hero, here's a story about McCain and Ted Williams, a fellow Marine, fighter pilot and veteran.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-30/john-mccain-loved-to-tell-this-ted-williams-story (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-30/john-mccain-loved-to-tell-this-ted-williams-story)
My favorite McCain story involved a tale he once told me about Ted Williams of the Boston Red Sox.
We were flying back to Washington on a small plane on May 20, 2002, from a commencement address he’d given at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. We hit some scary turbulence.
McCain saw the panicked look on my face and asked what was wrong. I confessed to being a nervous flier.
“I’ve crashed four of these,” he cracked. It didn’t put me at ease.
Then the celebrated former naval aviator, who acquired a reputation as a daredevil years before he was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967 and then spent five and a half years as a prisoner of war, recalled that whenever jet jockeys got together they would share old war stories.
The best one was about Ted Williams.
Williams, a Marine aviator during World War II, was called back into military service during the Korean War at the peak of his baseball career. He usually flew in formation with John Glenn, the future astronaut and senator. On one of his initial solo flights, Williams’s plane caught fire. He approached the airbase and crash landed, then jumped out just before the plane exploded.
For years, McCain had heard this story and wanted to ask Williams why he didn’t parachute out of the burning plane. When he finally met the baseball great, Williams explained that he was then 34 years old and figured that if he bailed out, he might break his knees and never play baseball again.
On that bumpy flight from North Carolina all those years later, McCain gleefully remembered Williams’s typically foul-mouthed answer:
“So I said, screw it, let's bring it in.” (Except that he didn’t exactly say “screw it.
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
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This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
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This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
HEH
page not found (404 Error).
So typical of the troll.
As is his continued misunderstanding that William's, a classic pull hitter, and subject to the first shift (Boudreau) against his pull-power, played half his games in the ballpark with a one of the biggest right-fields and did not play to his stubborn strengths.
In fact, in a well known story, in 1947, Tom Yawkey and Yankee owner Dan Topping, met at Toots Shor's and over several cocktails agreed to trade Williams for Joe D, with the thought of the reunting the Dimaggio brothers in Boston with Joe attacking the Monster while Williams would take advantage of Yankee Stadium's short-porch in right and resume where Ruth had left off.
Sober heads and presumably coffee prevailed the following morning, and the trade never happened.
And the real band box is in Philly, but its not lyric, as there is no music nor charm, its just a small ballpark, built for small-minded dolts.
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https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
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200 hit seasons.
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https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
and the troll unintentionally proves the obvious point, as he knows little of the game.
Singles hitters are just not in the conversation for "greatest hitters".
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This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
How bout that Darin Erstad getting in there....
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Figures the Boston Cartel would work this hard to defend the Whites Only Era of baseball.
Aaron. Better hitter than Williams. Played in tougher league, tougher era. Third in all-time hits, Williams 77th. First in all-time Homers presteroid and body armor era.
The best hitters hit. Aaron had the most hits of anyone you've mentioned
You lose, again.
An irrelevant argument for Ruth.
An erroneous argument for Williams. Spin it any way you want to. If Aaron had been the Boston player and Williams played elsewhere, you would be defending Williams, pointing out that he went to war, twice, slugged and hit better, etc. Whatever, Utley.
A waste of perfectly good used electrons.
But you're only slightly more likely than Red to admit being wrong. (Or should I call him E in here?)
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Aaron at Fenway - wow - imagine that.
Reviewing a few real good ones today - from Rose to Ichiro to Gwynn. Tony was truly amazing. And no telling if Ichiro had started in the States.......
Pete's more in my memory as a scrapper - a guy who loved and respected the game - a winner. Gwynn really stands out. Strangely Clemente is revered more than Tony.
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https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
and the troll unintentionally proves the obvious point, as he knows little of the game.
Singles hitters are just not in the conversation for "greatest hitters".
Since when was Hank Aaron a singled hitter?
LOL
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Figures the Boston Cartel would work this hard to defend the Whites Only Era of baseball.
Aaron. Better hitter than Williams. Played in tougher league, tougher era. Third in all-time hits, Williams 77th. First in all-time Homers presteroid and body armor era.
The best hitters hit. Aaron had the most hits of anyone you've mentioned
You lose, again.
An irrelevant argument for Ruth.
An erroneous argument for Williams. Spin it any way you want to. If Aaron had been the Boston player and Williams played elsewhere, you would be defending Williams, pointing out that he went to war, twice, slugged and hit better, etc. Whatever, Utley.
A waste of perfectly good used electrons.
But you're only slightly more likely than Red to admit being wrong. (Or should I call him E in here?)
Aaron couldn't play at Fenway. He wasn't white. They barely let Jim Rice play there.
Ruth v. Black ballplayers. Never happened.
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https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_season.shtml)
and the troll unintentionally proves the obvious point, as he knows little of the game.
Singles hitters are just not in the conversation for "greatest hitters".
Since when was Hank Aaron a singled hitter?
LOL
Moron are you aware of what you posted?
The majority of the single-season hit leaders were singles/doubles guys.
Of the 24 leaders hi-lighted (the photos) of the top 24 season for hits, focusing just on the modern era guys
Ichiro (3X)
Boggs
Erstad
Carew
Mattingly
Two will not make the Hall of Fame, and you use this list as the basis for the greatest hitters in the game.
ROTFL
No one would confuse any of those guys as candidates for the game's greatest hitters.
Except you, as you're a clueless idiot.
As posted several times for the greatest hitters you might want to refer to the leaders on the slugging and OPS pages.
or you can muck around in your feces.
SSDD
And FTR, moron, Aaron shows up #71 on your cherry-picked example.
your cluelessness knows no bounds.
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Williams doesn't show up at all on that list.
And for total hits career? Aaron is third. Williams???
Well, well out of the running.
Because truly great hitters like Aaron hit for power, and they have 200+ hit seasons.
In other words, to be a great hitters...get hits.
Back to your barstool, you've lost another.
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Aaron was all class and made his teammates better.
Aaron played with death threats, and the crowd might spit in him or throw things at him.
Williams played for himself, and spit on the crowd.
No. That dude was fucked up.
Of course, I'm not the only one who thinks so.
https://youtu.be/VCJAmG7NZ_4 (https://youtu.be/VCJAmG7NZ_4)
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Williams doesn't show up at all on that list.
And for total hits career? Aaron is third. Williams???
Well, well out of the running.
Because truly great hitters like Aaron hit for power, and they have 200+ hit seasons.
In other words, to be a great hitters...get hits.
Back to your barstool, you've lost another.
So you find the #71st ranked guy (Aaron) on a list and you think this is an endorsement of your cherry-picked list?
You're an idiot.
Williams is not on the list because he received a lot of walks, got on base a lot, and had the highest on-base & than amyone in MLB history.
He did not make the outs that other hitters made.
Hitters like Rose and Aaron who made more outs than any other players in MLB history.
Williams got on-base instead.
When he did hit, he hit for average and power, (and at superior average than Aaron)
Again one only has only to look at an appropriate universe of data, like slugging % or OPS. .
But I understand you are fully invested in your own stupidity and cluelessness to go outside your towering boundaries of dumb.
You're lack of basic understanding of the game is almost surprising.
Back to the gutter troll, to wallow in your most recent humilating spanking.
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You're still losing.
You won't win.
And the beatings will continue.
Great hitters get hits.
He's woefully lacking in that department.
High average usually means fewer at bats, is all.
Aaron didn't have power?
LMFAO!
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Troll you were TKOed yesterday
you are now punch-drunk and close to brain-dead and babbling idiocy
back to the gutter troll.
You got owned again
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Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
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Yet surprisingly for all the reasons given, most observers rank Ruth and Williams #1/2 when ranking the greatest hitters in the game.
So back to the gutter troll, and own your latest humiliation.
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Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
In 4500 more abs.
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Yet surprisingly for all the reasons given, most observers rank Ruth and Williams #1/2 when ranking the greatest hitters in the game.
So back to the gutter troll, and own your latest humiliation.
A lot of people eat at McDonald's. Doesn't mean it's good food.
And Mays was better than Williams, too.
And neither Willie or Henry could hide being black, but the Spoiled Splinter HUD being brown.
Beatings will continue.
See ya, loser!
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Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
In 4500 more abs.
I think the math and implications escape the troll.
He's not very bright.
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Yet surprisingly for all the reasons given, most observers rank Ruth and Williams #1/2 when ranking the greatest hitters in the game.
So back to the gutter troll, and own your latest humiliation.
A lot of people eat at McDonald's. Doesn't mean it's good food.
And Mays was better than Williams, too.
And neither Willie or Henry could hide being black, but the Spoiled Splinter HUD being brown.
Beatings will continue.
See ya, loser!
Troll
It was settled before you dumbed down this discussion that both Mays and Aaron were better ballplayers than Williams.
However, Williams by general consensus, and most metrics, was either the best or 2nd greatest hitter in the game.
I sort of understand your need to change the arguments you've hopelessly bungled and lost for the past 2 days. You feel humiliated again and you want to save face, however yours is not worth saving.
Besides its dishonest.
Enjoy your Happy Meal
and try not to lose the toy in the gutter
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TA----NAKA-----SANNNNN!!!!!
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200 hit seasons.
No doubt about it, Utley, Aaron had three 200 hit games to none for Williams.
In Williams' 194 hit season, he was walked 162 times! BA .343 OBA .490 SLG .650
In Aaron's 223 hit season, he was walked 51 times. BA .355 OBA .401 SLG .636
In Williams' 193 hit season, he was walked a mere 96 times - more than Aaron was walked in any season of his career.
BA .344 OBA .442 SLG .594
In Aaron's 201 hit season, he was walked a 78 times - in 161 games.
BA .319 OBA .391 SLG .586
In Williams' 188 hit season, he was walked 126 times. BA 369 OBA .497 SLG .615
In Aaron's 200 hit season, he was walked 37 times. BA .328 OBA .365 SLG .558
13 times, Williams had more walks in a season than Aaron's most. But... Aaron had five seasons in which he struck out more than Williams' worst year.
Aaron got pitched to far more than Williams - he got more hits, while getting on less much less often and slugging less. I suspect that had Williams been pitched to as often as Aaron was, he'd have had as many or more 200 hit games, without worrying about missed seasons due to war. (Not WAR!)
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Hank Aaron had 1100 MORE HITS than the Spoiled Splinter.
Great hitters do that.
Beatings will continue, until your brain hurts.
In 4500 more abs.
Oh, look. Another member of the vaunted "Boston mafia."
Utley's so screwy about these arguments.
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This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
HEH
page not found (404 Error).
So typical of the troll.
As is his continued misunderstanding that William's, a classic pull hitter, and subject to the first shift (Boudreau) against his pull-power, played half his games in the ballpark with a one of the biggest right-fields and did not play to his stubborn strengths.
In fact, in a well known story, in 1947, Tom Yawkey and Yankee owner Dan Topping, met at Toots Shor's and over several cocktails agreed to trade Williams for Joe D, with the thought of the reunting the Dimaggio brothers in Boston with Joe attacking the Monster while Williams would take advantage of Yankee Stadium's short-porch in right and resume where Ruth had left off.
Sober heads and presumably coffee prevailed the following morning, and the trade never happened.
And the real band box is in Philly, but its not lyric, as there is no music nor charm, its just a small ballpark, built for small-minded dolts.
No, he's right - Ted hit far better at home than away:
I BA OBP SLG OPS
Home .361 .496 .652 1.148
Away .328 .467 .615 1.082
Aaron was about the same home and away, overall (and not bothering to compare Milwaukee vs. Atlanta)
I BA OBP SLG OPS
Home .303 .379 .557 .936
Away .306 .369 .552 .921
But Ted Williams' weaker performance still blows Aaron's performances away. Or home.
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Another 0-8 for SuckTendi and Bogaerts
oy
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This alleged "greatest hitter", not on this list.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/https://youtu.be/VU7texRnXjkH_season.shtml)
Yet he played 19 seasons in a band box.
Sad.
I guess living in a myth-making metropolis made him seem like he could hit.
HEH
page not found (404 Error).
So typical of the troll.
As is his continued misunderstanding that William's, a classic pull hitter, and subject to the first shift (Boudreau) against his pull-power, played half his games in the ballpark with a one of the biggest right-fields and did not play to his stubborn strengths.
In fact, in a well known story, in 1947, Tom Yawkey and Yankee owner Dan Topping, met at Toots Shor's and over several cocktails agreed to trade Williams for Joe D, with the thought of the reunting the Dimaggio brothers in Boston with Joe attacking the Monster while Williams would take advantage of Yankee Stadium's short-porch in right and resume where Ruth had left off.
Sober heads and presumably coffee prevailed the following morning, and the trade never happened.
And the real band box is in Philly, but its not lyric, as there is no music nor charm, its just a small ballpark, built for small-minded dolts.
No, he's right - Ted hit far better at home than away:
I BA OBP SLG OPS
Home .361 .496 .652 1.148
Away .328 .467 .615 1.082
Aaron was about the same home and away, overall (and not bothering to compare Milwaukee vs. Atlanta)
I BA OBP SLG OPS
Home .303 .379 .557 .936
Away .306 .369 .552 .921
But Ted Williams' weaker performance still blows Aaron's performances away. Or home.
The only thing that the troll got right in his post was repeating Updike's reference to Fenway as a bandbox.
However, from a link that did not work, to evetually providing a link that was meaningless, to misunderstanding the nature of Williams as a pull hitter hitting into Fenway's expansive right field pasture, the contstruct of a bandbox really doesn't work. The cut and paste troll has surface knowledge at best. He's a parrot parotting, with no real understanding, just a lyric little squawk.
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Nice return tonight by EdRo.
If he can stay healthy and pitch like that, the rotation, while left-heavy, gets a nice boost.
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Brian Johnson and RSox had nothing today.
interesting week coming up 3 v Braves
then home for 3 v Astros
Happy Labor Day folks
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Ys also have an interesting week+ w/3 @ Oakland, 3 @ Seattle and [email protected] Minny.
could add some clarity for post-season play a few teams
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5-4. No worries.
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Found some old cash in a betting account and started running it up. What a country!
Thanks, Mr Matz and Mr Lester - as well as Arsenal.
I wont bore you all with further detail.
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20k down to 10 then up to 40
a 4-bagger
heh
well it took 8 pitchers and almost 200 pitches in a 2-run game
and the bats got hot and RISPY at the right time
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Hero Harper up to .246 (31-87)
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https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/1036769347887423496 (https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/1036769347887423496)
Give me Phillips vs lefties in place of AB. Kinsler to DH.
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Sox keep rollin'
nothing flashy good night for Pearce and Porcello and pen
just played some good hard-ball.
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Sox keep rollin'
nothing flashy good night for Pearce and Porcello and pen
just played some good hard-ball.
It's very nice to see Steven Wright back on the mound, these two games.
I look forward to seeing what Kiid's hero, Brandon Phillips, has in the tank.
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Day game after a night game sounds like a good game to sit some regulars so he'll probably play tomorrow.
And as the division seems like a good bet, he may see a few chances to get minutes over the next couple of weeks
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strange yet compelling game in Atlanta
Sox down 7-1
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Jeez that's got to be their most ridiculous win ever. The Nats are going to run down the Braves.
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in a year of strange and compelling games that one might be the game of the year
and today Brandon Phillip's became a Red Sox
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in a year of strange and compelling games that one might be the game of the year
and today Brandon Phillip's became a Rd Sox
That was a stunning game in so many ways.
Wow.
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in a year of strange and compelling games that one might be the game of the year
and today Brandon Phillip's became a Rd Sox
That was a stunning game in so many ways.
Wow.
wow is right
I came in at 7-1
saw the improbable pinch-hitter driven 8th inning comeback
then the nut-punch go ahead Freeman dinger in the bottom of the 8th
and then the Phillips blast in the 9th
Acuna in left never budged, Phillips killed that ball.
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Beni had a nice game - tip of the cap.
Sox front office with strong showing today (Cora hire - ----> handling of Phillips)
Best takeaway was the SIGH OF RELIEF from Braves radio guys (and later heard the TV call as well on Freeman homer) after Betts did not deliver go ahead RBI in 8th and Freddie put them ahead with the dinger. They were super comfy til Dat Dude wrecked it.
Acuna didnt move. Pitchers hate that. Nice job, rook.
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Wow. Look who's number two: http://highheatstats.blogspot.com/2012/01/50-most-overrated-batters-in-baseball.html (http://highheatstats.blogspot.com/2012/01/50-most-overrated-batters-in-baseball.html)
And guess who's not on the list?
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Today's quiz
Name 5 MLB players that lead their respective 2018 teams in HR, RBI and batting average
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Add WAR to the list of baseball metrics the troll knows little about.
You really should try to read and understand the articles you post.
Williams rated as the 2nd greatest hitter on that list, is "overated" because his actual WAR of 126 (right behind Aaron at 132) was adjusted for the almost 5 years he missed, adding some 38 WAR points and 38/126 was the 2nd largest % increase.
If you bothered to take a look at the stats and Williams WAR #s in 1942 and 1946, they averaged over 10WAR evey year. A reasonable adjustment for a young Williams coming into his prime for those 3 years (1943-45) would be in excess of 31. Then there is the Korean war years which would add roughly another 12 WAR.
Adding those reasonable WAR estimates place Williams as #1 WAR offensive player.
Aaron needed no adjustment for lost war time in his 25 years.
That's why he's not on the list, you moron.
You are so fucking dumb.
Williams OBP (#1 alltime) and OPS (#2) ranking, and .344 life time BA do not reflect adjustments, but what he did in his 17 non-military service years. .
But its good to know that Williams, Gehrig, Joe Dimaggio, Jimmie Foxx, Shoeless Joe and Ernie Banks are all overated because of some adjustment that was never made to their (sorry Shoeless) Hall of Fame careers.
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You lost again. Sorry you can't handle the truth.
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Wow. Look who's number two: http://highheatstats.blogspot.com/2012/01/50-most-overrated-batters-in-baseball.html (http://highheatstats.blogspot.com/2012/01/50-most-overrated-batters-in-baseball.html)
And guess who's not on the list?
Quite entertaining.
He rejects the extension of the ELO rating because Ted's from Boston and therefore highly popular?!
Then he grants that the WAR's being increased for comparison purposes is appropriate because of the war non-WAR years.
Williams' WAR/PA is about 20% higher than Aaron's (though the person who compiled his list of those missed the boat).
Let me know when you find a scientific examination of the ELO ratings rather than an off-the-cuff social analysis. Meanwhile, keep trying to make Hammerin' Hank into something he never was.
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You lost again. Sorry you can't handle the truth.
I knew Jack Nicholson.
Jack Nicholson was a friend of mine.
You, sir, are no Jack Nicholson.
With apology to Lloyd's of Austin.
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You lost again. Sorry you can't handle the truth.
Troll
You lost this discussion a week ago and have only compounded your injuries with recent futile efforts.
You should probably lick your wounds and call it a day.
and read the article you posted, it doesn't say what you hoped it did.
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The beatings will continue...
Of course, in 15 or so years, you have yet to understand the game.
Heh
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https://www.ajc.com/blog/mike-check/braves-are-pretty-good-just-not-red-sox-good-and-that-expected/W6f3pmfrQhp6g86oBGWYyL/ (https://www.ajc.com/blog/mike-check/braves-are-pretty-good-just-not-red-sox-good-and-that-expected/W6f3pmfrQhp6g86oBGWYyL/)
"The Braves are good, but not Red Sox good - and that is to be expected."
Atlanta writer discussing the payroll gape.
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The beatings will continue...
Of course, in 15 or so years, you have yet to understand the game.
Heh
Troll
You've once again been shown to come up empty in a discussion which was settled a week ago.
you are 0-for-a week, and have a .000 BA. an .000 OBP, and .000 slugging % and .000 OPS.
you have struck out at every attempt.
You've changed your responses from Rose to Cobb to Aaron
you're getting warmer, but you're still wrong and are way out of your league
and i suspect you may know you're wrong, as you change answers and change the arguments, but your poor self-esteem can't deal with that.
tough luck troll, you got your ass kicked again
So while I kick your ass, feel free to comtinue to beat your pin-head against the wall, as that is the only beating you seem capable to administer.
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You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
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the troll seems fixated on the topic.
I'm just exposing the fallacies of his every changing arguments.
He doesn't take losing arguments very well.
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Severino got off to a rocky start against the A's tonight, though he looked much better in the 2nd inning.
One wonders if this will be another CFBW for the Yanks.
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Its 7-0 in the 5th, and if the Ys CFBW it, they will steal win of the day from the Sox.
I'll have to be surprised by the score in the AM.
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Its 7-0 in the 5th, and if the Ys CFBW it, they will steal win of the day from the Sox.
I'll have to be surprised by the score in the AM.
Goodnight.
I would not bet on being surprised.
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You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
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You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
It's probably true.
He's trying to traffic in facts and reason.
You're just stirring the pot to get a reaction.
Different games. But since he doesn't care about losing yours and you don't care about losing his, it makes the interchange even stupider.
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You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
It's probably true.
He's trying to traffic in facts and reason.
You're just stirring the pot to get a reaction.
Different games. But since he doesn't care about losing yours and you don't care about losing his, it makes the interchange even stupider.
Still winning.
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You have a NEED to post this?
Sick.
He doesn't understand he's already lost the game.
In fact, he doesn't understand the game.
It's probably true.
He's trying to traffic in facts and reason.
You're just stirring the pot to get a reaction.
Different games. But since he doesn't care about losing yours and you don't care about losing his, it makes the interchange even stupider.
Still winning.
I gather you have learned that it is far easier to win when you play with yourself instead of with others.
Knock yourself out, Utley.
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https://www.mlb.com/news/orioles-will-wear-braille-uniforms-on-sept-18/c-293612296 (https://www.mlb.com/news/orioles-will-wear-braille-uniforms-on-sept-18/c-293612296)
(https://securea.mlb.com/assets/images/8/8/2/293612882/cuts/960x540/cut.jpg)
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same old lame tricks, Utley.
Sometimes I wonder why I ever worried about you when I thought you were suicidal.
Asshold.
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same old lame tricks, Utley.
Sometimes I wonder why I ever worried about you when I thought you were suicidal.
Asshold.
Wow.
I think you should delete this. Please.
Okay.
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Heh.
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same old lame tricks, Utley.
Sometimes I wonder why I ever worried about you when I thought you were suicidal.
Asshold.
Locus of control in action.
Wow.
I think you should delete this. Please.
Okay.
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Fucking Cora
Great time to have tryouts.
Owes Price an apology.
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Dombrowski's aching Achille's heal acted up again.
those last 3 innings are gonna be tricky in October
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turned on the game in the 8th at 5-2
almost a nice comeback in the 9th
a month ago JD doesn't miss those wannabe walk-off pitches
so close
right now Astros are better
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test
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Niiiiiiice play, Tendi
heh
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that was a pretty good game in a pretty decent series that felt like play-off ball.
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that was a pretty good game in a pretty decent series that felt like play-off ball.
A little heart-pounding.
While not the weekend series I might have hoped for, effective overall.
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Not sure I liked the call on the play at the plate.
Yeah...AL playoffs will be awesome this year, whether we see A's or Yanks joining Astros and Indians.
Had my +250 bet on HOU from preseason so I will stay with that.
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that was a pretty good game in a pretty decent series that felt like play-off ball.
A little heart-pounding.
While not the weekend series I might have hoped for, effective overall.
A little heat-pounding at the right times is ok.
I would have liked to see the Sox win 2 of 3, but all 3 of those games were in play to the end.
It was good stuff.
The takeaway though was slight edge Astros, and mostly because the bullpen.
I hope they're the ALCS match-up
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I'm pretty sure I had a Astros-Nats or Cubs WS, with Astros repeating.
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Not sure I liked the call on the play at the plate.
Yeah...AL playoffs will be awesome this year, whether we see A's or Yanks joining Astros and Indians.
Had my +250 bet on HOU from preseason so I will stay with that.
Probably a matter of knowing how to act.
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Phadin' Phil's...
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Sox with some late inning lightning notch win #99
last time Sox won 99 games was in '78.
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Sox with some late inning lightning notch win #99
last time Sox won 99 games was in '78.
Yankees followed that with a loss. '78 is getting further out of the thoughts of even the most paranoid RS fans.
Not over, yet, but it doesn't feel the same.
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agreed it doesn't feel like '78
just brought uo '78 for the high-water 99 wins in my (as far as I know all here) life-time.
ftr was lucky enough to see the '78 99th in person, probably the most electrifying game I ever saw
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Feels like '75
7-8 game lead all through August. Got down to 5 by 8/10 and as low as 3.5, closest Orioles got
Of course at that time there wasnt the cushion of making the WC. And we had to beat just the one team (A's) - not 2 (likely Yanks and Astros) to get to the Series.
Eddie Armbrister. OUCH.
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or to date, maybe like '07, got out of the gate fast, and held the lead to the finish.
stress level so far has been low
bigger ouch in '75 came from Vern Ruhle
and screw Larry Barnett
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Fuck
You
Cora!
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Never mind.
You suck, Tendi!
- That's better
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Sometimes I think your Kid moniker has nothing to do with Gary Carter.
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its funny considering I've watched this game for over 60 years that from time to time I still see something I've never seen before.
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its funny considering I've watched this game for over 60 years that from time to time I still see something I've never seen before.
What did I miss? I had work between when they scored their run and the last two pitches of the game.
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Perhaps you had seen it before. I thought you were a younger man.
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Perhaps you had seen it before. I thought you were a younger man.
I was a younger man.
Now I'm not.
The 100th win?
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Perhaps you had seen it before. I thought you were a younger man.
I was a younger man.
Now I'm not.
The 100th win?
Yup.
My kid just texted me with a "Woohoo!"
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Congrats to the Red Sox on a great season. That World Championship is becoming the norm at Fenway, isn't it?
Wait.
The season's not over?
No playoff games have been played?
Okay.
Well congrats for making the playoffs, despite the weak division, of course.
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I think the discussion was about winning 100 games in the regular season.
I'm pretty sure there wasn't any talk of post-season victories.
Little premature.
although a few weeks ago there was some chatter about some parallels to the '78 season.
I think it was based more on hoped for future schadefreude. But that's just speculation.
Since only the Phillies have fallen out of the post-season race,
As to the weak AL East, as is more often the case than not there are 3 pretty good teams in the division, one eh team in Canada and the Orioles who are having a miserable season.
So far the Sox are playing .721 ball in the division, but just .636 vs the AL West and only .600 vs the AL Central.
Of course that relative weakness is offset by the .824 (14-3) they have achieved vs the NL East.
But the season's not over yet as they still have 3 against the Mets.
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Speaking of the Mets, David Wright to call it quits, after one last cameo appearance to say goodbye.
He seemed like a good guy and destined for a potential HoF career.
I hope someone grooves one for him.
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Sox 55 games over for first time in 106 years.
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Sox 55 games over for first tome in 106 years.
Not true.
They reached 56 games over twice in the 1946 campaign.
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Congrats to the Red Sox on a great season. That World Championship is becoming the norm at Fenway, isn't it?
Wait.
The season's not over?
No playoff games have been played?
Okay.
Well congrats for making the playoffs, despite the weak division, of course.
Your irrelevant comment about the playoffs has already been responded to.
Duh, after the last two seasons we know very well that the playoffs are their own thing.
100 wins still doesn't happen often.
But your final comment is just jerky. I presume it's your usual chain-yanking. (Sorry, Yank!)
Nonetheless, a couple facts for you:
The Red Sox have won 61.3% of games against teams above .500 this season
They've won 76.1% against teams below .500.
Their rate against above .500 teams is good enough to win 99 games in a full season.
Only 4 teams in the AL have winning records against the teams with winning records. The Yankees have the second highest percentage, with Houston third, and Seattle fourth. Houston's won two more such games, while losing twelve more. Cleveland's got a 42.6% winning percentage against them.
Weak division? Houston's 14-13 against the AL East. Only 3 other external teams had a winning record against the ALE, and only Oakland had a very good record.
Of course, only three teams outside the ALW had winning records against them - but all three were ALE teams. (Only one outside team had a losing record against the ALC!)
The strongest NL record against .500+ teams won about 56%.
Yeah, your need to put down whatever the Red Sox have accomplished is duly noted.
As usual.
And wrongheaded, as is often, but not always, the case.
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Well....
I think what Utley means is
CONGRATS for making 100 wins a thing.
Yawn.
Its flags that count.
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True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.
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or the most famous example 1954 Indians.
But the premise its "only flags count: is BS.
Most of us are watch and enjoy a sports where our teams rarely win a championship.
but we keep on watching, knowing there is only a modest chance of a champioship.
IMO its the game, skills, real drama, unscripted suspense and the sport.
The flag is a bonus.
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True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.
Yesterday, I was listening to a discussion about who remembers what and how 100+ wins is meaningless without a ring vs. 100+ wins is meaningful.
The radio guys asked the caller to name the last winner of 100+ games and he couldn't. They understandably mocked him, since he was insisting it was important.
But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
Without the 116 wins, nobody remembers those Mariners, but even with them, mostly people remember that they lost, but not to whom or how or anything. Yeah, here I expect people might remember it. Or some of us, at least, but likely not all.
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or the most famous example 1954 Indians.
But the premise its "only flags count: is BS.
Most of us are watch and enjoy a sports where our teams rarely win a championship.
but we keep on watching, knowing there is only a modest chance of a champioship.
IMO its the game, skills, real drama, unscripted suspense and the sport.
The flag is a bonus.
I will gladly trade last year's win streak for Houston's rings.
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But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
The team that won the 2001 World Series didn't beat the 116 game winning Mariners. The team that lost that World Series did.
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True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.
But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
it's a.thin line between stupid and clever. I had me a brain fart in memory of the late, great Ray Oyler.
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But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
The team that won the 2001 World Series didn't beat the 116 game winning Mariners. The team that lost that World Series did.
Good point. Oops!
But nobody knows who that was, either, the vast bulk of the time.
The Mariners are more deeply embedded in our memories.
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True enough. Without a World Series title you are the 2p01 Seattle Pilots or the 2017 Cleveland Indians.
But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
it's a.thin line between stupid and clever. I had me a brain fart in memory of the late, great Ray Oyler.
Hah! Not a bad brain fart as such things go.
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But he missed his chance to ask them who won the 2001 World Series, beating the 116 game winning Mariners. (Pilots! Hah! Clever.)
The team that won the 2001 World Series didn't beat the 116 game winning Mariners. The team that lost that World Series did.
Good point. Oops!
But nobody knows who that was, either, the vast bulk of the time.
The Mariners are more deeply embedded in our memories.
Maybe. But I think that because the Yankees were going for their 4th WS in a row that season (and 5th of 6), I think most baseball fans remember well that it was them that knocked the Mariners off.
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Well....
I think what Utley means is
CONGRATS for making 100 wins a thing.
Yawn.
Its flags that count.
It don't mean a thing, if you don't get that ring!
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Well....
I think what Utley means is
CONGRATS for making 100 wins a thing.
Yawn.
Its flags that count.
It don't mean a thing, if you don't get that ring!
Doo wop, doo wop, doo wop!
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Not the single most captivating performance by a Red Sox team this year.
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Yeah......missed an easy bet tonight with Mets.
Could be a sweep.
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Meanwhile..........
YOU
SUCK
TENDI !!!!
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Not the single most captivating performance by a Red Sox team this year.
Ugly by the 3rd. Still ugly in the 9th.
Tomorrow is another day!
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Trust me - check out til Monday
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Trust me - check out til Monday
Why on earth would I trust you?
And given who the Mets have starting tomorrow? No, thanks.
And... I don't only watch them when they are winning.
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I see Mets battering Porcello
But you are right. Looks like an 8-7 type game - could go either way
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Sounds like I picked a good game to miss.
and Tendi sucked again?
he's had a tough year.
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GLS starting early this fall.
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GLS starting early this fall.
Oh?
You're blaming Kapler for the Phillies' implosion?
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Sox -260
Mets +210
I passed.
Took a stab at the NO bet on "will a team score in the first?"
Got Cubs -1.5 runs vs Reds, Lester on the bump.
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Jeeze kid, in a game you handicapped as a toss-up -110 game, if you can get +210 seems to me you gotta grab it.
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You bet PITCHERS and consider hot/cold offenses and home/away.
Mets are hot - but lose the other 2. Better spots for my cash.
I do figure Oswalt to be able to navigate the first inning. Thus a small bet there at even money.
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I understand baseball betting.
and risk management.
If you handicapped the game as Mets -110, which is what you unknowingly did, and can get Mets +210, you should make the bet.
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You bet PITCHERS and consider hot/cold offenses and home/away.
Mets are hot - but lose the other 2. Better spots for my cash.
I do figure Oswalt to be able to navigate the first inning. Thus a small bet there at even money.
So much for that figuring!
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3 more walks for Bryce Harper.
Now has 116 BB to go with his 124 hits.
94-33-95-12
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GLS starting early this fall.
Oh?
You're blaming Kapler for the Phillies' implosion?
Was there an implosion?
Who knew?
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Mets fans in force at Fenway
they all were away blue colored coordinated
it was nice
as was the bipartisan chanting in the 8th
heh
JBJ got jobbed
but alls well that ends well
good win
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Mets fans in force at Fenway
they all were away blue colored coordinated
it was nice
as was the bipartisan chanting in the 8th
heh
JBJ got jobbed
but alls well that ends well
good win
And the Yankees spin continued, too, though they got lucky with the Oakland loss.
Magic number = 4 with 13 to play.
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Frozen computer prevented this before game time, but...
my prediction for today is that the Red Sox score more than 3 runs against DeGrom.
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Bogaerts another off day
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Mets about to be 12-18 in deGrom starts
Cy Young advocates - sit the f down
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Bogaerts another off day
JD, too.
Cora explained his plan for doing this last week. With the day off tomorrow, he hopes the extra rest will make them fresher for the post-season.
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We are basically fielding the Columbus Clippers today.
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Frozen computer prevented this before game time, but...
my prediction for today is that the Red Sox score more than 3 runs against DeGrom.
So much for my prognostication!
Sox waited for DeGrom to leave before getting their 4th.
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Trust me - check out til Monday
Like I said, why trust you on that?!
Two out of three. Not quite as good as the overall record vs. the NL, but it will do.
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pretty good game
deGrom is good, but I'm not sure if I'd vote him NL CY.
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Scherzer is an easy call I think.
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or Nola.
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Nola has cooled off a bit, I think, and if it's about stats I think Scherzer got the edge everywhere (last I checked and I could be way off there). If it's about the incredibly subjective "who's a better pitcher" test I think Scherzer still has the edge.
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Scherzer has been my favorite non-Sox pitcher for the last few years. I really enjoy watching him pitch. But I was posting in response to he would be an "easy" CY choice.
Statistically I think its pretty close between him and Nola.
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Wainwright turning back the clock tonight. Scintillating breaking pitch.
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Nola has cooled off a bit, I think, and if it's about stats I think Scherzer got the edge everywhere (last I checked and I could be way off there). If it's about the incredibly subjective "who's a better pitcher" test I think Scherzer still has the edge.
Nola outpitched Scherzer head to head. Twice. Within one week.
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https://m.herosports.com/mlb/player-comparison/aaron-nola-vs-maxwell-scherzer (https://m.herosports.com/mlb/player-comparison/aaron-nola-vs-maxwell-scherzer)
Close race.
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WAR can be whack
How is it Mikolas WAR is just 3.4 with a 15-4, 2.99 mark?
Wheeler 3.9 WAR and 11-7, 3.23
Corbin 4.7 WAR 11-5, 3.05
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Updated World Series odds
Looking at CLE .... good buy there at 10-1
https://www.betus.com.pa/sportsbook/mlb-baseball_futures-world_series_2018.aspx (https://www.betus.com.pa/sportsbook/mlb-baseball_futures-world_series_2018.aspx)
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It was 10D's fault
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Shoe on other foot, Dems bury it
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/keith-ellison-domestic-violence-accuser-says-democratic-party-doesnt-believe-her-story.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/keith-ellison-domestic-violence-accuser-says-democratic-party-doesnt-believe-her-story.html)
Wrong thread, dummy.
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It was 10D's fault
Calling 2 hits vs Severino tonight
AB! AB! AB!......
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Betts catches that Voit popup
But great to see JD out there getting some jogging in