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Title: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 25, 2021, 12:22:00 PM
Did you know about the Refugee Olympic Team?

29 athletes from 11 different countries, competing under a single banner.

It is so terrible that it needs to exist and so wonderful that it does.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/ny-olympics-refugee-team-meet-athletes-iran-iraq-syria-venezuela-congo-sudan-20210723-x4mdbjnm4vckhpmuqu74vjwaha-story.html
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 26, 2021, 11:58:11 AM
Is the US Basketball team in trouble, given their loss to France?

Or do you think they'll be fine?
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 26, 2021, 12:08:58 PM
Caeleb Dressel got his first gold in these Olympics, last night. Expect more.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Holly Martins on July 26, 2021, 10:05:26 PM
I have to ask:  in the future will they call a test of freestyle swimming skill... a titmus test?

https://slate.com/culture/2021/07/olympics-dean-boxall-swimming-coach-jerk-ariarne-titmus.html

Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Oiled on July 27, 2021, 01:16:47 PM
https://apnews.com/article/2020-tokyo-olympics-gymnastics-simone-biles-injured-463f9be556246eada6dec265297df4d2

At some point,  people realize they aren't trained seals.   And when mental health must take priority over trophies.   
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 27, 2021, 04:15:20 PM
Simone Biles quit on her team. 

Few in this generation show that they are willing to persevere.

Generation Wimp.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 27, 2021, 04:17:32 PM
Simone Biles quit on her team. 

Few in this generation show that they are willing to persevere.

Generation Wimp.

Your tolerance for mental health issues is striking and ironic.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 27, 2021, 04:19:46 PM
Simone Biles quit on her team. 

Few in this generation show that they are willing to persevere.

Generation Wimp.

Your tolerance for mental health issues is striking and ironic.
And utterly anticipated.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 27, 2021, 04:40:27 PM
Simone Biles quit on her team. 

Few in this generation show that they are willing to persevere.

Generation Wimp.

Your tolerance for mental health issues is striking and ironic.

It's all about HER, not the team, not the country. HER. Got it?

The mental health "issues" are from a lifetime of coddling by "educators" like you, josh.

Harry Truman: "If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen."

Josh and the Wokie World Wimps: "If it's, like, uh...hot, then, like, you should go to the living room or someplace cooler, and we can get take-out, okay? I mean, you tried, so, um, here. Try this CBD oil. It's good for your anxiety."

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." Michael Jordan.

"So, you didn't take a shot at it, and, like it's okay, because we, like, still love you, and that feels good, too, doesn't it?" Josh and the Wokie World Wimps.

"Champions keep playing until they get it right. Then they play more." – Billie Jean King


"Coming to the Olympics and being head star isn't an easy feat."---Simone Biles


Translation: "It's hard. Hard! I mean... don't you get it?"

An American embarrassment. Message sent to the rest of the world. Americans of this generation are weak.

Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 27, 2021, 05:46:39 PM
Simone Biles quit on her team. 

Few in this generation show that they are willing to persevere.

Generation Wimp.

Your tolerance for mental health issues is striking and ironic.

It's all about HER, not the team, not the country. HER. Got it?

The mental health "issues" are from a lifetime of coddling by "educators" like you, josh.

Harry Truman: "If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen."

Josh and the Wokie World Wimps: "If it's, like, uh...hot, then, like, you should go to the living room or someplace cooler, and we can get take-out, okay? I mean, you tried, so, um, here. Try this CBD oil. It's good for your anxiety."

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." Michael Jordan.

"So, you didn't take a shot at it, and, like it's okay, because we, like, still love you, and that feels good, too, doesn't it?" Josh and the Wokie World Wimps.

"Champions keep playing until they get it right. Then they play more." – Billie Jean King


"Coming to the Olympics and being head star isn't an easy feat."---Simone Biles


Translation: "It's hard. Hard! I mean... don't you get it?"

An American embarrassment. Message sent to the rest of the world. Americans of this generation are weak.
Your tolerance for mental health issues is striking and ironic.


Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 27, 2021, 09:07:48 PM
“I don't run away from a challenge because I am afraid. Instead, I run towards it because the only way to escape fear is to trample it beneath your foot”---/i] Nadia Comanici[

A real champion.

Like Keri Strug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwa5Bf656As (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwa5Bf656As)

But, Ms. Biles? Made it ALL about HER.

IN true fashion of today's youth, she QUIT.




Champions don't quit. They persevere.


Take the GOAT off the leotard, loser.




Title: Re: Olympics No Mas
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 27, 2021, 09:49:06 PM
Simone Biles is the Roberto Duran of gymnastics. Worse, actually, claiming she did it for the team.


Biggest woman athlete at this games so far? The swimmer, Titmus, from Australia.

 
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 28, 2021, 12:55:53 AM
Piggy has expanded his mind-reading skills to reach all the way to Japan.

The people who screwed up are the coaches, whether you are right about her or wrong about her, Piggy.

Ever compete internationally, Piggy?

Ever been at the top or anywhere near it?
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Yankguy1 on July 28, 2021, 07:43:09 AM
Weird to see that Dressel wasn't on the 4X200 free relay.  He's a sprinter, I know, but I imagine his 200 is still among the fastest four guys and it's not like he hasn't done that event before.  I can only imagine that the coaches don't want him to burn out and they'll try to limit his pool time as much as they can.

Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 28, 2021, 09:25:47 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/opinions/simone-biles-naomi-osaka-olympics-mental-health-ives-rublee/index.html

A former top athlete's perspective on Simone Biles' decision, among others.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 28, 2021, 11:38:37 AM
Wait - the Olympics now contains a Gus Macker tournament?
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 28, 2021, 12:24:50 PM
(https://scontent-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/226799467_4792542914091415_1013067778792631907_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=xvaQFBdjV1AAX_vGDSq&tn=fvMDFTLtkrSQiK7S&_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.xx&oh=5f6d0c66b0960c2eb0526c60ffa9e05d&oe=6126796D)

It's all about toughness. Clearly.

Inability to follow through.

Being a wimp.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 28, 2021, 02:35:28 PM
 I was intrigued by the Team Saber event, until I realized it was a series of 1 on 1 duels, which is not what I had envisioned.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 28, 2021, 03:19:56 PM
I see Josh and folks like this are working hard to maintain Simone Biles's "victim" stays:

https://sports.yahoo.com/if-simone-biles-criticism-doesnt-convince-you-black-women-shoulder-too-heavy-a-burden-what-will-080438150.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/if-simone-biles-criticism-doesnt-convince-you-black-women-shoulder-too-heavy-a-burden-what-will-080438150.html)

Perhaps, though, Ms. Bikes is connected to a gambling organization.

Ya nevah kno'.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 28, 2021, 03:52:57 PM
I was intrigued by the Team Saber event, until I realized it was a series of 1 on 1 duels, which is not what I had envisioned.

That would have been sword of interesting.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 28, 2021, 03:57:25 PM
I see Josh and folks like this are working hard to maintain Simone Biles's "victim" stays:

https://sports.yahoo.com/if-simone-biles-criticism-doesnt-convince-you-black-women-shoulder-too-heavy-a-burden-what-will-080438150.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/if-simone-biles-criticism-doesnt-convince-you-black-women-shoulder-too-heavy-a-burden-what-will-080438150.html)

Perhaps, though, Ms. Bikes is connected to a gambling organization.

Ya nevah kno'.

I stood up for Naomi Osaka, too, Piggy. And for Becca Meyers, for all that we didn't discuss her here that I noticed.

You're the one who jumps on every single Black person who doesn't thrive and is in the media because of it. Ever discuss Biles before this time around?!

Still waiting for an answer to my simple questions, since you are "fearless" about your history.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 28, 2021, 04:56:37 PM
I see Josh and folks like this are working hard to maintain Simone Biles's "victim" stays:

https://sports.yahoo.com/if-simone-biles-criticism-doesnt-convince-you-black-women-shoulder-too-heavy-a-burden-what-will-080438150.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/if-simone-biles-criticism-doesnt-convince-you-black-women-shoulder-too-heavy-a-burden-what-will-080438150.html)

Perhaps, though, Ms. Bikes is connected to a gambling organization.

Ya nevah kno'.

I stood up for Naomi Osaka, too, Piggy. And for Becca Meyers, for all that we didn't discuss her here that I noticed.

You're the one who jumps on every single Black person who doesn't thrive and is in the media because of it. Ever discuss Biles before this time around?!

Still waiting for an answer to my simple questions, since you are "fearless" about your history.

Fuck you. It's all about her calling herself the GOAT and then quitting. You only need to launch the usual bullshit attack in me because you can't defend her.

Will she be giving back the money, btw?

But since you brought it up, there are quite a few sports figures who quit on their team or their career prematurely. Barry Sanders, Santonio Holmes, Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin, Roberto Duran, Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, Patrick Roy, John Daly, and Michael Jordan, Oliver McCall, Scottie Pippen.

They all were criticized heavily for quitting. They're all men. Most are black. Probably a coincidence.





Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 28, 2021, 06:55:57 PM
I see Josh and folks like this are working hard to maintain Simone Biles's "victim" stays:

https://sports.yahoo.com/if-simone-biles-criticism-doesnt-convince-you-black-women-shoulder-too-heavy-a-burden-what-will-080438150.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/if-simone-biles-criticism-doesnt-convince-you-black-women-shoulder-too-heavy-a-burden-what-will-080438150.html)

Perhaps, though, Ms. Bikes is connected to a gambling organization.

Ya nevah kno'.

I stood up for Naomi Osaka, too, Piggy. And for Becca Meyers, for all that we didn't discuss her here that I noticed.

You're the one who jumps on every single Black person who doesn't thrive and is in the media because of it. Ever discuss Biles before this time around?!

Still waiting for an answer to my simple questions, since you are "fearless" about your history.

Fuck you. It's all about her calling herself the GOAT and then quitting. You only need to launch the usual bullshit attack in me because you can't defend her.

I posted two defenses of her that were better than anything I could have written, by other athletes.

"the usual bullshit attack in (sic) me" is merited because you are only attacking Black athletes (and Boston figures) and attacking them for stupid reasons.

You want her to be full of false modesty and not admit what others know, that she is the greatest gymnast ever? It's hardly like she's the only one saying it or that those who said it before are not reiterating it now.

Naomi Aoki did not suddenly retroactively become a bad tennis player because of mental health issues. Becca Meyers' prior performances are not diminished by her leaving the Olympics because she was denied her usual, necessary, support.

Tom Brady really won that game and is not "Sleepy Tom" for miscounting plays once.

And if you have a moment in which you do not demonstrate racism, it won't change your long history of racist conduct here.

And my questions stand - do you have international competition experience, Piggy, and were you near the top of your field if you did?!

In the only thing I ever competed in seriously, I was never better than the top 5 percent overall and 10% for active competitors - I wasn't willing to put in the training hours to go beyond that. I was only in a couple international events. I worked with some of the top US competitors of both genders and watched what some of them went through. For some it was a walk in the park, for others a grind - but for a bunch, it was not a constant thing, rather depending on what else was going on in their lives.

For somebody so ready to make up a bogus narrative about the Founding Fathers and the morality of their time by which you claim they should be judged, you sure are rigid about this Black gymnist.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 28, 2021, 07:09:22 PM
https://www.theonion.com/conservatives-blast-simone-biles-for-robbing-them-of-op-1847380497?utm_campaign=The+Onion&utm_content=1627509612&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 28, 2021, 08:46:37 PM
https://nypost.com/2021/07/28/simone-biles-shares-message-on-larry-nassar-abuse-after-opting-out-of-olympics/

Maybe Piggy isn't after Simone Biles for being black, but for trying to compete after having been sexually abused.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 29, 2021, 12:39:15 PM
https://nypost.com/2021/07/28/simone-biles-shares-message-on-larry-nassar-abuse-after-opting-out-of-olympics/

Maybe Piggy isn't after Simone Biles for being black, but for trying to compete after having been sexually abused.

Maybe, again, you can go fuck yourself. OPINIONS VARY on issues like this. THE FACT that you can't handle any opinion that deviates from your woke world dogma indicates that you who preach inclusion are among the most exclusive individuals here. You are an intolerant asshole, always have been, and always will be.

Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 29, 2021, 12:41:59 PM
“It feels crazy, it is so surreal,” Lee says. “It’s a dream come true. I don’t even know what to say. It hasn’t even sunk in. ... The past two years with Covid have been crazy. There was one point I wanted to quit. To be here and to be an Olympic gold medallist is just crazy.”

But, she didn't. And she's got the gold medal. That's what real champions do.

Congrats, Champion.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 29, 2021, 01:07:21 PM
https://nypost.com/2021/07/28/simone-biles-shares-message-on-larry-nassar-abuse-after-opting-out-of-olympics/

Maybe Piggy isn't after Simone Biles for being black, but for trying to compete after having been sexually abused.

Maybe, again, you can go fuck yourself. OPINIONS VARY on issues like this. THE FACT that you can't handle any opinion that deviates from your woke world dogma indicates that you who preach inclusion are among the most exclusive individuals here. You are an intolerant asshole, always have been, and always will be.

If you ever had opinions that were not bent this way, then accepting it would be easy.

But you don't.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 29, 2021, 01:31:22 PM
https://nypost.com/2021/07/28/simone-biles-shares-message-on-larry-nassar-abuse-after-opting-out-of-olympics/

Maybe Piggy isn't after Simone Biles for being black, but for trying to compete after having been sexually abused.

Maybe, again, you can go fuck yourself. OPINIONS VARY on issues like this. THE FACT that you can't handle any opinion that deviates from your woke world dogma indicates that you who preach inclusion are among the most exclusive individuals here. You are an intolerant asshole, always have been, and always will be.
Well, nosh, there you go. The whole point of asshat Forrest's anti Biles bile was not him having an honest opinion regarding her, but baiting someone into calling him a racist so he could do the whole "cannot handle opposing opinions" horse shit. I don't think he even has a real opinion on her; he has spent the last two days, fingers poised over the keyboard, saying "if they won't call me racist, please someone say black, please someone say black".

The thing about being an asshole racist like Forrest is that even when being not specifically racist he's still an asshole. Until he kept going on and on, I thought he. was merely being his normal sociopathic, devoid of human empathy, self. Then I realized he was race baiting, which reminded me that race baiting is itself a form of racism.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 29, 2021, 05:19:09 PM
Quote
In 1996, Kerri Strug was raised in an abusive system with no choice. A system that ran over the bodies and souls of little girls. After suffering an injury on her first vault, she was pushed by the Karolyis to put her body at risk for a second vault--a vault they mistakenly thought was necessary to clinch gold. She was  then handed over to Larry Nassar to care for her broken body.
In 2021, Simone Biles and her coach chose her safety and well-being first. There's no Karolyis, no Nassar, no Karolyi Ranch.
This is the change we've worked so hard for. If all you see is the color of the medal, you're part of the problem.
0

~Rachel Denhollander, former gymnast, first to publicly accuse Larry Nassar of sexual assault



Using Kerri Strug as an example of courage when compared to Simone Biles is to totally fail in your understanding of Strug's story.

Quote
Former American gymnast Kerri Strug has praised Simone Biles, who exited the team competitions of the Tokyo Olympics on Tuesday citing mental health concerns.

Her exit has triggered a debate, along with comparisons with an ankle injury that Strug herself suffered in 1996.

“Sending love to you,” wrote Strug in a tweet on Tuesday, tagging Biles.

“Team UNITED States of America,” the 43-year-old former gymnast added, along with a heart and goat emoji, a reference to Biles earning the Greatest Of All Time (GOAT) moniker.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/kerri-strug-simone-biles-olympics-b1892722.html
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on July 29, 2021, 05:47:42 PM
Is the US Basketball team in trouble, given their loss to France?

Or do you think they'll be fine?

Trouble.

I had US -56 vs Iran.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 29, 2021, 06:00:41 PM
The wimpization of America may beyond repair.

Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 29, 2021, 06:09:33 PM
The wimpization of America may beyond repair.
Your capacity for human empathy shattered into a hundred million pieces decades ago and left nothing behind except toxic masculinity that mistakes bullying brutality for strength. And racism.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 29, 2021, 07:24:01 PM
The wimpization of America may beyond repair.
Your capacity for human empathy shattered into a hundred million pieces decades ago and left nothing behind except toxic masculinity that mistakes bullying brutality for strength. And racism.

Nice take. Shows how ignorant you really are.


GFY.



Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 30, 2021, 12:44:42 PM
Pretty fucking stupid.

https://sports.yahoo.com/united-states-gold-medal-favorite-mixed-4-x-400-relay-team-disqualified-in-controversial-fashion-134334811.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/united-states-gold-medal-favorite-mixed-4-x-400-relay-team-disqualified-in-controversial-fashion-134334811.html)

Saved from being pretty fucking stupid: https://news.yahoo.com/us-relay-team-favored-win-150013281.html (https://news.yahoo.com/us-relay-team-favored-win-150013281.html)


Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Yankguy1 on July 30, 2021, 10:01:28 PM
Katie Ledecky: remarkable.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 30, 2021, 10:36:53 PM
"Simone Biles Will Not Compete in Vault or Uneven Bars Finals".

Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 30, 2021, 10:38:06 PM
Katie Ledecky: remarkable.

Amazing athlete.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 30, 2021, 11:06:29 PM
"Simone Biles Will Not Compete in Vault or Uneven Bars Finals".

Quote
The “twisties” happen to gymnasts when they are in the middle of their routine or even in the middle of a skill. Something causes them to lose awareness of where they are in the skill, and in their relation to the ground.

Simone Biles has been having the twisties for a little while now. Since before the Olympics, but she tried to work through it.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on July 31, 2021, 05:38:13 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/former-ufc-champion-thinks-simone-biles-needs-some-tough-love
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 31, 2021, 05:43:38 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/former-ufc-champion-thinks-simone-biles-needs-some-tough-love

UFC =/= gymnastics.

ex-UFC champ needs some clue.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Yankguy1 on July 31, 2021, 10:13:00 PM
Caeleb Dressel: also remarkable
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 31, 2021, 10:44:58 PM
"Simone Biles Will Not Compete in Vault or Uneven Bars Finals".

Quote
The “twisties” happen to gymnasts when they are in the middle of their routine or even in the middle of a skill. Something causes them to lose awareness of where they are in the skill, and in their relation to the ground.

Simone Biles has been having the twisties for a little while now. Since before the Olympics, but she tried to work through it.

Sure. You go with that.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on July 31, 2021, 10:48:47 PM
"Simone Biles Will Not Compete in Vault or Uneven Bars Finals".

Quote
The “twisties” happen to gymnasts when they are in the middle of their routine or even in the middle of a skill. Something causes them to lose awareness of where they are in the skill, and in their relation to the ground.

Simone Biles has been having the twisties for a little while now. Since before the Olympics, but she tried to work through it.

Sure. You go with that.

Sure.

And you go with insensitive, inconsiderate, ignorant shit that you made up because she was black.

No problem.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on July 31, 2021, 11:08:15 PM
"Simone Biles Will Not Compete in Vault or Uneven Bars Finals".

Quote
The “twisties” happen to gymnasts when they are in the middle of their routine or even in the middle of a skill. Something causes them to lose awareness of where they are in the skill, and in their relation to the ground.

Simone Biles has been having the twisties for a little while now. Since before the Olympics, but she tried to work through it.

Sure. You go with that.

Sure.

And you go with insensitive, inconsiderate, ignorant shit that you made up because she was black.

No problem.

Fuck off, intolerant leftist.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on July 31, 2021, 11:21:29 PM
Katie Ledecky: remarkable.

Amazing athlete.

Yep

But not nearly the story for US womens swim team
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Yankguy1 on July 31, 2021, 11:37:14 PM
I don't think any sport burns out its athletes more than swimming does. Given that, winning gold in three different Olympics like Ledecky is incredible. Phelps winning golds in 4 (and participating in 5) is incomprehensible.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on August 01, 2021, 02:09:44 AM
(https://scontent-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/227436133_1743115775860663_6910666876944351263_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=GPRQfZB63oIAX8j3djo&_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.xx&oh=467446e3b56c0616c1966ed489960590&oe=610A6116)
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on August 02, 2021, 08:50:07 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/07/29/simone-biles-and-the-magaverses-fetish-of-toughness-501515
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on August 02, 2021, 09:51:15 AM
(https://scontent-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/228264213_10158716156934093_4762681556177500443_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=baLuTocLKFUAX9C2PSj&_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.xx&oh=add085ca908bfc74d7169f0e02d83bc9&oe=612D5965)
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on August 02, 2021, 02:09:51 PM
Simone Biles likely quit because she saw she was going to lose to her teammate.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on August 02, 2021, 03:26:05 PM
Simone Biles likely quit because she saw she was going to lose to her teammate.
Does your head ever interfere with your colonoscopies, or can you remove it when necessary?

Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on August 02, 2021, 04:33:28 PM
Simone Biles likely quit because she saw she was going to lose to her teammate.

https://www.si.com/.amp/olympics/2021/08/02/simone-biles-twisties-physical-risk-former-gymnasts-left-paralyzed
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 02, 2021, 05:12:37 PM
Biles to compete in the beam finals, 430 am tomorrow

I am sure Ham will be up for it.  Yes, Lee is competing.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 03, 2021, 12:06:11 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/mckayla-maroney-moment-defend-simone-biles

WORD!
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on August 03, 2021, 12:57:22 PM
Biles to compete in the beam finals, 430 am tomorrow

I am sure Ham will be up for it.  Yes, Lee is competing.

Got the Bronze. Lee finished 5th.

Well done, Simone Biles.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on August 03, 2021, 01:18:28 PM
One advantage of being three hours behind EDT is that the late night olympic events you sleep through are on prime time here. Sprint canoe is excellent stuff. And dangerous. The women pairs (unlike the men, who kneel) are pretty much strapped in. One boat capsized right at the finish line and it took so long for them to surface I started to worry.

Also that 400 hurdles was an amazing race.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on August 03, 2021, 01:22:10 PM
Also, who was it that decided the steeplechase should be raced on a track? "I know! Let's have people run 8 laps with random jumps and a pond!"

I have roughly the same question about the butterfly. Seems a pretty inefficient way of swimming to have arise  organically.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 03, 2021, 01:59:50 PM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on August 03, 2021, 02:02:37 PM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.
It is what can happen when two elite greats push each other.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on August 03, 2021, 02:11:57 PM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.

All of the top 3 finishers beat the record established in 1992 (and only exceeded by Warholm on July 1st).

Yes, it was an amazing race.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on August 04, 2021, 12:57:00 AM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.

All of the top 3 finishers beat the record established in 1992 (and only exceeded by Warholm on July 1st).

Yes, it was an amazing race.
In both men's and women's 400 hurdles, gold and silver both beat the previous world record, and the bromze ran the 4tb fastest time in history. Weird. And wonderful.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on August 04, 2021, 10:07:27 AM
(https://scontent-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/228264213_10158716156934093_4762681556177500443_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=baLuTocLKFUAX9C2PSj&_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.xx&oh=add085ca908bfc74d7169f0e02d83bc9&oe=612D5965)


Both quit on their teams. Both put self before others.

Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on August 04, 2021, 10:08:04 AM
Simone Biles likely quit because she saw she was going to lose to her teammate.

https://www.si.com/.amp/olympics/2021/08/02/simone-biles-twisties-physical-risk-former-gymnasts-left-paralyzed

Nice excuse.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on August 04, 2021, 10:09:35 AM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.
It is what can happen when two elite greats push each other.

And neither one quits.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hamilton Samuels on August 04, 2021, 10:10:16 AM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.

All of the top 3 finishers beat the record established in 1992 (and only exceeded by Warholm on July 1st).

Yes, it was an amazing race.
In both men's and women's 400 hurdles, gold and silver both beat the previous world record, and the bromze ran the 4tb fastest time in history. Weird. And wonderful.

Sydney McLaughlin, 22, and a true Jersey girl.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on August 04, 2021, 11:04:58 AM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.
It is what can happen when two elite greats push each other.

And neither one quits.

Still waiting to hear of your international competition experiences.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on August 04, 2021, 11:15:19 AM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.
It is what can happen when two elite greats push each other.

And neither one quits.

Still waiting to hear of your international competition experiences.
He's the Reigning Elba Asshole of the Year. Does that count?
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 05, 2021, 12:29:42 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ex-olympic-boss-hideki-matsui-flame-not-naomi-osaka
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 05, 2021, 12:30:59 PM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.
It is what can happen when two elite greats push each other.

Yep

Syd McLaughlin (GO, Jersey!) gold in same event - womens side, with silver medalist Muhhamed pushing very similar.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on August 05, 2021, 12:39:37 PM
Now THIS was absolutely insane

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/karsten-warholm-400m-hurdles-tokyo-olumpics_n_6108fdc4e4b038cedb3761d0

American shatters world record, settles for silver

Nice job by NBC building up the prerace story line.  That is one flying Norwegian.
It is what can happen when two elite greats push each other.

Yep

Syd McLaughlin (GO, Jersey!) gold in same event - womens side, with silver medalist Muhhamed pushing very similar.
I noted the similarities between the two 400 hurdles earlier, including that in both races the bronze medalist ran the 4th fastest time in history.

Meanwhile, what the hell is with the US track men? So far the closest we've come to a gold is the Italian 100 winner being born in El Paso.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 05, 2021, 01:11:35 PM
I noted the similarities between the two 400 hurdles earlier, including that in both races the bronze medalist ran the 4th fastest time in history.


Thanks

I apologize for skimming.  Seldom do that with your posts.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Hairy Lime on August 05, 2021, 01:32:09 PM
I noted the similarities between the two 400 hurdles earlier, including that in both races the bronze medalist ran the 4th fastest time in history.


Thanks

I apologize for skimming.  Seldom do that with your posts.
NP. I got to cite an amazing bit of trivia a second time!
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Holly Martins on August 08, 2021, 01:54:36 PM
As a Norwegian-American (partly),  I was so excited by Warholm's performance that I tore a small hole in my teeshirt.   I mean,  there was kind of a hole starting there already,  where deodorant and sweat eat away the fibers,  but then I jumped up and lustily expanded it a couple centimeters at least.   

Roaming around fjords all day makes people very strong.   And eating lutfisk,  which is a fish that marinates for days in lye until it transforms into a disgusting gelatinous mass.   You'd run fast and jump obstacles,  too,  if that appeared on the dinner table.   
Title: GOLD
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 11, 2021, 01:32:38 PM
USA!!!!!!!

By one.

Awesome.

(Thanks, Jade Carey.  Thanks, US Women's Volleyball)
Title: Re: GOLD
Post by: josh on August 11, 2021, 07:18:35 PM
USA!!!!!!!

By one.

Awesome.

(Thanks, Jade Carey.  Thanks, US Women's Volleyball)

Kid defines "late to the party" for us.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on August 14, 2021, 07:23:47 PM
A protest that was accepted by and at the Olympics without protest:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10009201?hpt=ob_blogfooterold
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 16, 2021, 11:33:26 AM
Cute story.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on September 02, 2021, 10:15:11 AM
Speaking of "rules are rules" and absurdity:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/02/sport/muhammad-ziyad-zolkefli-late-stripped-tokyo-paralympic-gold-spt-intl/index.html

The shot putter was stripped of his gold because he arrived 3 minutes late to the competition.

They let him compete. He won.

Then, upon review, they determined he had no excuse for tardiness, so they stripped him of the gold. I wonder if, had he set a new world record, they would have claimed that didn't count either, despite no performance advantage.
Title: World's tallest paralympian helps his team to defend their gold medal
Post by: josh on September 04, 2021, 05:13:19 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/04/sport/tokyo-paralympics-morteza-mehrzadselakjani-sitting-volleyball-spt-intl/index.html
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Oiled on February 11, 2022, 08:24:58 PM
(https://wwd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/EileenGu.jpg?w=910&h=511&crop=1)

Stirring things up a bit.  Come on, Eileen!

https://sports.yahoo.com/eileen-gus-instagram-comment-causes-fury-in-china-115439434.html



Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on February 12, 2022, 03:12:38 PM
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/02/12/sports/its-unfair-be-expected-be-perfect-chloe-kim-mikaela-shiffrin-speak-openly-about-mental-health-struggles
Title: about those ski jumping outfits
Post by: josh on February 13, 2022, 11:15:11 AM
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/08/1079212805/ski-jumping-suit-violation-winter-olympics
Title: White athletes vs. Black athletes and drugs
Post by: josh on February 14, 2022, 08:11:04 PM
https://jezebel.com/olympics-allows-white-athlete-to-compete-after-positive-1848533188
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kiidcarter8 on February 16, 2022, 07:49:40 PM
I feel for Ms Richardson.

But rooting for others to get tossed isn't a great use of her time.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kiidcarter8 on February 16, 2022, 08:03:41 PM
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/02/12/sports/its-unfair-be-expected-be-perfect-chloe-kim-mikaela-shiffrin-speak-openly-about-mental-health-struggles

Let us all support Matt Harvey
Title: Re: White athletes vs. Black athletes and drugs
Post by: kiidcarter8 on February 16, 2022, 08:11:34 PM
https://jezebel.com/olympics-allows-white-athlete-to-compete-after-positive-1848533188


This could actually be a good discussion.

Lets see how my confidence plays out.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on February 16, 2022, 09:17:30 PM
I feel for Ms Richardson.

But rooting for others to get tossed isn't a great use of her time.

She's rooting for consistent treatment.

Do you believe that she should just shut up? Or is there a different tone you think she should have taken?

What should her position be?

Separately, is the skater's being a minor a reason to not ban her, reasoning that she had no agency? Even if you don't ban er, is excluding her while she is actively testing positive a reasonable step to take, instead?

How do we handle minor athletes with PEDs?

And should the penalty for pot be the same as for a PED?!
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on February 18, 2022, 01:46:02 PM
In our outrage at the Russian mistreatment of its young athletes, let us not rush to absolve the United States from its participation in and embracing of the "arms" race in ice skating, gymnastics, and others.

Are we better about it than the Russians? Probably, on average. But better doesn't equal good and our questionable methods push theirs. And better on average grants inherently that we have worse cases, not just better.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: Holly Martins on February 18, 2022, 06:40:01 PM
In the drive to make national pride and prestige the focus, it's easy to forget the Olympics are the Olympic games. 

As for the inequal treatment of doping. It's worth asking in what sport (aside from maybe pie eating contests) could pot be a PED?  Whereas giving a 15  year old heart medication as an endurance booster is pretty clearly a PED violation (and one wonders what the side effects might be??)( several heart meds are dangerous to anyone with normal cardio function)
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on February 19, 2022, 08:43:27 AM
Was the same panel deciding in the 2 cases?
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on February 19, 2022, 05:01:26 PM
Was the same panel deciding in the 2 cases?

Kid, you suggested conversation.

I would tell you to look up your own damned answer, but you already knew it before you posted your inane question.

Whether it was the same or it wasn't at the lower level, it is the same at the upper level - and the standards are still the same, regardless of the lower panels' different make-up.

I posted some questions before you posted yours. Why not try responding to them?
Title: Re: White athletes vs. Black athletes and drugs
Post by: josh on February 22, 2022, 11:32:20 AM
https://jezebel.com/olympics-allows-white-athlete-to-compete-after-positive-1848533188


This could actually be a good discussion.

Lets see how my confidence plays out.

Could have been, but you chose not to be a part of it.

No surprises.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on February 22, 2022, 07:38:43 PM
In the drive to make national pride and prestige the focus, it's easy to forget the Olympics are the Olympic games. 

As for the inequal treatment of doping. It's worth asking in what sport (aside from maybe pie eating contests) could pot be a PED?  Whereas giving a 15  year old heart medication as an endurance booster is pretty clearly a PED violation (and one wonders what the side effects might be??)( several heart meds are dangerous to anyone with normal cardio function)

Rule on pot could be changed - but not in the middle of the event.  They only allow for that in US politics.

I think there are not many that preferred the young Russian be allowed to skate.  And likely we all thought the decision imprroper.  But none of us were in on the conversation.  None of us heard the reasonng before the eventual decision.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kidcarter8 on April 03, 2022, 10:03:00 PM
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/the-absurd-attempt-to-defend-lia-thomass-competing-as-a-woman/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=more-in&utm_term=first



Just say NO, Olympic committee
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: josh on April 03, 2022, 10:10:54 PM
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/the-absurd-attempt-to-defend-lia-thomass-competing-as-a-woman/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=more-in&utm_term=first



Just say NO, Olympic committee

The absurd attempt to make such divisions.

Next you will want women with "too much" testosterone tossed. Oh, wait - we used to do that, didn't we.

One of my favorite stories on the topic was one attacking Lia for her success.... but they used a picture of Ledecky by mistake.
Title: Re: Olympics
Post by: kiidcarter8 on April 05, 2022, 02:11:18 PM
Ledecky.

Legitimate, skilled female swimmer.
Title: Re: Olympics - Thorpe reinstates as sole winner in two 1912 events
Post by: josh on July 16, 2022, 05:37:20 PM
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/34245374/ioc-reinstates-jim-thorpe-sole-winner-1912-olympic-decathlon-pentathlon