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Title: Popular Music
Post by: Admin on April 16, 2007, 08:40:55 PM
Share your thoughts on the latest popular music artists.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 24, 2007, 10:20:17 AM
Listening to a wonderful song by a great artist I found on xm radio: "Low Down Low" by Kerri Powers. Can be found at here myspace.com site. As Wynonna sang in Rock Bottom, when you are down low up is the only way to go, right?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: liquidsilver on April 24, 2007, 10:44:12 AM
I've been getting into Matisyahu, Hasidic reggae who woulda thunk it?

http://www.myspace.com/matisyahu


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 24, 2007, 10:45:40 AM
Sounds unconventional for sure, but that is a good thing. I happen to love many recordings of klezmer and sephardic music.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on April 25, 2007, 08:38:21 AM

Good Morning all,  Its been a very long and emotional week for me...SO I desperately need some up lifting music to make me smile and destress. I have been reading the post from the previous week and they did make me feel better.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 25, 2007, 09:53:48 AM
Sugar--so glad to see you and hope you are working your way out of an emotionally draining situation...I know you have the inner strenght and resource to do so. Uplifting music......hmmmmm.....How bout this for starts....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4MaZ0-p-E

In a Wynonna mood of late.

When I Reach the Place I'm Going  and Live With Jesus (even for a Jewish boy!) from her first solo are yet others, but not sure I have an immediate link to send.

Hope I can get more ideas later...hang in there!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 25, 2007, 11:16:59 AM
sugar--

Kate Campbell is a wonderfully inspiring Americana singer. Hope you find this anothe bit of inspiration and uplift!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4MaZ0-p-E

Just for energy, enjoy Ray Wylie Hubbard doing Snake Farm--kinda rowdy!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_jNWPUFNA2U

Hope you enjoy them!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Kam on April 25, 2007, 11:35:54 AM
My 14-year-old daughter introduced me to Matisyahu, for which I thank her.  I hope no-one automatically considers something a 14 yo likes an anti-recommendation. There's an amazing range of stuff on her iTunes list--much of it in Japanese (she loves manga & anime as well as "J-Pop"), some in French...meanwhile she plays oboe in band and orchestra, and sometimes prints out sheet music of themes from video & computer games, a surprising number of which sound great on the oboe. 

I enjoy "King without a Crown" although Matisyahu is controversial for his politics. Word is, he won't shake the hands of women.  Not sure how that came to be -- maybe a religious thing? 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on April 25, 2007, 11:41:57 AM
I've heard of Matisyahu but haven't heard his tunes. The reviews seem to indicate that he's pretty good.

Reggae-wise I've been listening to a compilation put together by DJ Scratchy, a guy who used to play the music before and after Clash concerts. He's a real reggae fan, and put together a nice collection called Scratch Sounds. Maybe a few too many covers for my tastes, but otherwise some great songs. He has his own podcast; I listened to one of them and it was full of stuff from around the world. He's sort of keeping Joe Strummer's flame alive. Or lit. Or however the metaphor goes.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 25, 2007, 01:20:44 PM
Religious thing? A true hasidic is nuts.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 25, 2007, 01:35:27 PM
Curious to hear this guy,  but sometimes myspace won't play.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Kam on April 25, 2007, 06:03:51 PM
"King without a Crown", "Close my Eyes",  and check out his "Beat Box"...  aside from that i'm not too into his stuff.  Reminds me of Rocker T.

White Reggae singers are a trip. Bradley Nowell could do it. Don't know too many others.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 26, 2007, 09:29:08 AM
Hi Sugar--hope you've are enjoying some music and your spirits are returning. Busy day here, but there is always Vivaldi for a real pick me up!! 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 26, 2007, 09:31:36 AM
Finally heard the hasidic reggae singer.  20 sec. did me completely. Oh well.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on April 26, 2007, 05:49:37 PM
How 'bout some silly Peter Sellers to ease the blues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_sKAotTJiI


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on April 26, 2007, 05:54:43 PM
Oh... and God bless Cincinnati.

http://www.texianlegacy.com/twinsis.html


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on April 27, 2007, 07:57:55 AM
Bought a trio of Neko Case albums recently, including the latest of her and the New Pornographers.  But, it is Fox Confessor Brings the Flood that really captured my imagination. Curious to know more about Jesse Sykes and the Sweet Hereafter, which amazon has been tempting me with since these purchases.  Amazon.co.uk is offering a deluxe package of the Traveling Wilburys which I couldnt' resist.  It isn't being released until June 11.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on April 27, 2007, 08:01:31 AM
Liquid, you may as well cancel jazz given what little attention it got at the NYTimes.  We can just as easily talk about Jazz in Popular Music given it was a very small group that posted on an irregular basis, and I doubt they will drift over here.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 27, 2007, 10:04:18 AM
Wasn't it the group, Little Ohio who wrote and performed God Bless Cincy?

I tried listening to Fox Confessor and it didn't connect the first time. Will have to give it a second spin.

If you are looking for some awesome rootsy stuff, try Crooked Still--Shaken By A Low Sound....good music, playing, and great voices!  NP from the disc: "Can't You Hear Me Calling?"


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on April 27, 2007, 10:51:23 AM
try Crooked Still--Shaken By A Low Sound

I recall the Youtube links provided over at the NYTimes; haven't made any new cd purchases in a while, but will check 'em out.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 30, 2007, 10:10:27 AM
NP-- a classic that I will always love:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AQbQWnaK8HI

On rhapsody.com , you can hear a great song: Eat At Joe's by Suzy Bogguss.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on April 30, 2007, 10:25:00 AM
Another rainy day here!  Beginning to hate rainy days and mondays BUT the youtube video....did make this GP weary girl smile. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on April 30, 2007, 10:29:55 AM
Another rainy day here!  Beginning to hate rainy days and mondays BUT the youtube video....did make this GP weary girl smile. 

Sure wished that phone was ringing!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on April 30, 2007, 11:08:39 AM
Sure wished that phone was ringing!


what's the number?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ossPF94Mny8&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on April 30, 2007, 11:16:45 AM
You want to call a GP wearing female who hates rainy days and mondays?  But enjoys "singing in the rain"? 

You made me smile and laugh.....Great video of Stevie Nicks...she is very talented.

Hey Jennie Jennie whats your number?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on April 30, 2007, 11:19:08 AM
What's a GP?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVflL4-lktc&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on April 30, 2007, 11:21:40 AM
GP= Grannie panties..

Your very quick on the you tube...enjoyed the video....867-5309

I enjoy hanging clothes out on the line...and yes with clothes pins! 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on April 30, 2007, 11:22:43 AM
LOL! no boxers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc1PHk9FhIk


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on April 30, 2007, 11:25:53 AM
Gee, I don't think any of the those "green eyed" young ladies where GP.  Im more of a brown eyed lady!

I'm also known as Dorothy Gale


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on April 30, 2007, 11:30:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-VGxYAVx-0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on April 30, 2007, 11:35:04 AM
Awesome song....A true classic.  Listening to that song and lyrics brought back some fond memories of a childhood past.  Thanks for sharing the Tin Man.....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on April 30, 2007, 11:36:09 AM
You are welcome.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 30, 2007, 11:51:06 AM
So glad you enjoyed the song, sugar....some memories are simply too powerful ever to disappear, and the right song is perfect to be in touch with them!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 01, 2007, 06:37:59 AM
Mayday, mayday, mayday... it's May Day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-p2sbt_C4w


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 01, 2007, 08:03:14 AM
Happy day it is May Day and the month of April is behind me and its Tuesday and its NOT rainy....this GP weary gal will try to keep busy today. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 01, 2007, 09:30:21 AM
Happy May day to you, sugar. It's a gorgeous day here for the 4th day in a row....how special is that? May will be a new beginning for you, I hope. I will be traveling a bit--three weekends...Tenn/Smokies, Houston, then N. Va. to see the grandkid later this month.

Listening to the Nekko Case Fox Confessor disc...not bad, but not revelatory either. I must be missing something! Her arrangement of John the Baptist is fun, if unorthodox.

But it does make me think of other songs about foxes. Custer Larue, of the Balitmore Consort, does a wonderful one, The Fox Went out on a Chilly Night on her Daemon Lover disc. And of course there is Steeleye Span's Tempted and Tried disc which featurues a fox on the cover and a truly wonderful song about the cunning fox,:
http://www.amazon.com/Tempted-Tried-Steeleye-Span/dp/B000000E2P/ref=m_art_li_13/103-0023229-3931845

The fox is special to me. Todd is the Irish word for fox, you see.

Wish I could link to the Steeleye Span song, but these classics of theirs will have to do:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=182573556


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 01, 2007, 10:37:16 AM
Cincy Man sounds like your going to be very busy during the month of May.  Glad to hear you will have time for some R & R.  I will view those videos in 5.  The youngest turns 16 on Sunday.  Hoping the weather is sunny.  How I would love to spend sometime outdoors. 



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 01, 2007, 10:53:25 AM
Speaking of the youngest, he might enjoy some great guitar work on this timeless classic.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SruujJMx87I&mode=related&search=

I am sure you have something special planned for his big one!!

I am going to get some sun at noontime, but not too much! 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 01, 2007, 11:22:37 AM
The youngest is learning some old "Kansas" music.  He is doing really well.  Wants a drum set for his big day!  Dorothy Gail would be so proud of him!  Lunch time and sun sounds like a great plan.  I'm thinking that on the lunch time half hour would be a great time for SUN.  Im watching the videos now...thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 01, 2007, 11:25:51 AM
Harlem Nocturne - great guitarist!  I enjoyed the music and watching the video.  I will make sure to pass it along to the youngest.  Great selection Cincy


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 01, 2007, 01:40:14 PM
Can never go wrong with the venerable classics!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 02, 2007, 10:04:11 AM
A very beautiful piece of music to share--strikes me of a fusion in spirit  of ancient beauty and tango sensuality:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ST0y5EiJt0o



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 02, 2007, 10:16:44 AM
This an another ravishing song by the same group, Madredeus:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=HH6jgxfWO2Y&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 02, 2007, 10:23:33 AM
CINCY..I watched the first video.  I didn't have the same feeling that you did after listening to the music and lyrics.  Im sure its me!  The second video I wasn't able to get it to play.  I did try. 



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 02, 2007, 10:50:50 AM
Oh well.....maybe it grows on you!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 02, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im2SoltmZEc

why worry?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 02, 2007, 02:51:51 PM
Thanks for the you tube...WHY WORRY.  Awesome song.  Something to consider. What ever happened to Dire Straits?  Unique voice, great sound!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 02, 2007, 03:08:40 PM
Yes, great song and a wundermous album.

I don't keep up with the music news, but I believe Mr. Knopfler simply slipped out of those dire straits and forged ahead on his own.

He had a great collaboration with Emmylou Harris. Ya oughta check that one out if you haven't already.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 02, 2007, 03:13:08 PM
More Straits...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcnP5CjOy1Y&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 02, 2007, 03:17:46 PM
Great song!  Sometimes I feel the important people are so very far away from me and what I would do to change that........


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 02, 2007, 03:21:10 PM
Sometimes I feel the important people are so very far away from me and what I would do to change that........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18gAUuahBKM


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 02, 2007, 03:31:19 PM
great song by Gloria.  First time I have ever heard that song but did fill the emptyness or at least did while it played.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 02, 2007, 03:40:43 PM
The Four Tops were the first to record it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKBqrpBVEs


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 02, 2007, 04:11:49 PM
sugar--we do our best to keep those people close!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 03, 2007, 10:03:05 AM
Cincy - you do your best and your best is darn good.  Im currenlty trying to win a contest..but no luck.  I guess I will always be a dreamer!

NP:  Cindi Lauper - True Colors


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 03, 2007, 10:46:07 AM
Sugar--would that I could do more.  GL on your contest...never stop dreaming.

NP Cadillac Sky--Blind Man Walking.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 04, 2007, 08:57:46 AM
Blaze ablaze...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXbn1-aVQw8


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 04, 2007, 10:11:20 AM
handle with care...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaLfDnShEn0



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 04, 2007, 01:29:52 PM
NP:  Anne Murray.....i think im going to have some FUN


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 04, 2007, 05:17:31 PM
Have fun, fun, fun...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgCtEJVDMtc


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 07, 2007, 08:40:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6SuBacPDvc


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 07, 2007, 08:50:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67yo3FvrtM


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 07, 2007, 10:16:38 AM
Lucinda Williams - amazing song and such a voice!  Thanks for the link


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 07, 2007, 10:35:31 AM
hey, sugar. glad ya liked it. she's something.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 07, 2007, 10:37:36 AM
Im currently searching for other songs by her.  Im still trying to win that contest...no luck at this point.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 07, 2007, 10:45:35 AM
Ludinda has some great songs and some really fogettable ones, IMHO. We saw here live on stage and,  to say the least, she was underwhelming.

Here is something different that is worth listening to:
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=ensemble+galatia&search=Search


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 07, 2007, 11:16:31 AM
sugar -- what're you contesting?

cincy -- cool medieval stuff. thanks.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 08, 2007, 09:12:43 AM
Chauncey---trying to win free mortgage for life...I know what a dream.  But I continue to try.

NP:  Life's a dream


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 08, 2007, 10:19:53 AM
Some very pleasant music to start one's day and ramp up on the energy level. It is supposed to be a blend of celtic and chassidic, but I don't hear much in the way of chassidic. Still,  nice stuff.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=180706996


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 08, 2007, 10:32:49 AM
Back in my younger days I saw Heuy Lewis and the News in concert.  The concert was outdoors during the summer.  It was a great concert.  Great songs and blues.  NP:  I need a new drug....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 08, 2007, 10:44:28 AM
Huey is a good one...have my disc at the ready and will listen to some later....in  a celtic sorta mood at the moment. Who knows why?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 08, 2007, 10:53:08 AM
Are we the only ones in this group?  WHo knows why we like what we like...WE JUST DO


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 08, 2007, 11:03:16 AM
who knows who or why? i don't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEaKjRyPjVY


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 08, 2007, 11:23:11 AM
Love that clip.  Im on third!



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 08, 2007, 11:38:39 AM
Enjoy that classic routine...but its funny also with a contemporary political twist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hnY2f8lIjc&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 08, 2007, 11:48:08 AM
ya gotta love youtube. i received that bit a long time ago in written form but it's much funnier as a video.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 08, 2007, 01:34:06 PM
Huey is in the house!! Energetic!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 08, 2007, 01:39:06 PM
Yahoo!  Lets dance.....im on top of my desk now.....Turn up the volume


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 08, 2007, 01:59:57 PM
Room enough for two on the desk?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 08, 2007, 03:27:05 PM
One of the best singers whom you never heard of. Jonell Mosser...the lady rocks!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYuZrKLQ4uk


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 09, 2007, 05:50:29 AM
Amazon.co.uk had a great price on 3-CD set of Manu Dibango, which I couldn't resist.  He's been getting some airtime recently on BBC.  Hard to believe Manu is now past 70.  There is a CD-DVD set of his 70th birthday celebration with a lot of guest stars on it.  Also picked up a handsome box set of Ali Farka Toure's early years, Red & Green, referring to his first recordings made available in Europe.  Interesting to hear him with a much younger voice.


Title: knock, knock
Post by: chauncey.g on May 09, 2007, 09:38:12 AM
who's there?

olive.

olive who?

olive you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8u_XZ9nT2M


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 09, 2007, 09:48:08 AM
KNOCK KNOCK....To funny!  I adored that movie.  It hit home....I think I'm related to all of them.  Great video clip. 


Title: from kinky to ritzy
Post by: chauncey.g on May 09, 2007, 09:57:31 AM
hey, sugarblues.

i'm in a cine-music mood today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGN2aa3oQRM


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 09, 2007, 10:06:34 AM
CHauncy...You sure do know how to pick up.  I just watched the movie for the hundredth time a few weeks ago.  Putting on the Ritz..


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 09, 2007, 10:17:45 AM
Love this old chestnut:  Midnight in Moscow:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HKA49VLvwOw


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 09, 2007, 10:21:29 AM
Cincy...Are you Kenney Ball?  Do you think that hair is his own?  Interesting video.  Enjoyed the pictures.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 09, 2007, 10:26:04 AM
Not Mr. Ball or his hair. I so remember this song being a huge hit in the early 60's and I couldn't get enough of it. So glad you liked it...the genuinely great songs and arrangements never get old!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 09, 2007, 10:28:51 AM
NP:  Kenny Rogers  Your the only love i need....I know I know Kenny Rogers!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 09, 2007, 10:33:03 AM
Seemless web that connects all good music--Kenny Rogers to the Kurt Weill classic, The Pirate Jenny--good presentation too!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3eENWTA0bs4

Just in another of my strange music moods!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on May 09, 2007, 01:14:53 PM
Also picked up a handsome box set of Ali Farka Toure's early years, Red & Green, referring to his first recordings made available in Europe.  Interesting to hear him with a much younger voice.

Hey Dzimas, how goes it? I write this with significant regret, but I think I have become saturated with music. I just have too much stuff, and as a result have become more particular about what I buy. I saw those Ali Farka Toure discs, but took a pass because I already have about 5 of his albums, and because of the saturation thing. I have been downloading some songs from his last album Savane and the album his nephew recently put out though. I then compile them and other downloads and make a compilation disc from them.

That said, I still do make the occasional purchase. I bought Lloyd Cole’s latest album and it’s quite good. He has aged gracefully, and he still has a knack for a good melody. Another thing I like about him is that lyrically his songs from 20 years ago still stand today, which is more than one can say about a lot of groups from that era.

I ordered a compilation called Island Blues from an indie book/record store, so I’m looking forward to that one.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 09, 2007, 02:34:39 PM
I must be lost in the NE woods!  How do you all hear about these artists?  I must be staying inside that box but I sure do need to venture out of the woods and the box.  I have never heard of most of these people.  Tell me how to expand my horizon


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on May 09, 2007, 03:00:10 PM
I must be lost in the NE woods!  How do you all hear about these artists?  I must be staying inside that box but I sure do need to venture out of the woods and the box.  I have never heard of most of these people.  Tell me how to expand my horizon


Hi Sugarblues,

I don’t know what kind of music you like (I only read these posts occasionally) so I might be promoting musicians that might not fit your style. That said, I got into Lloyd Cole back in college when I listened to a few albums that he did with his old group The Commotions. I always kept an eye on him because I liked his music. He’s one of those Brits who makes great music but is relatively unknown in the US.

Ali Farka Toure is – er, was (he died last year) - one of Mali’s most popular musicians. Dzimas and I had chatted about him at the old NYT Popular Music forums.

I listen to a lot of internet radio, and if I hear a song I like I write it down and try to buy it on iTunes – unless I think I’ll like the entire disc and get it instead. I don’t know if you like music from around the world, but if you’re interested, here’s a good Internet radio station: http://www.radioio.com/radioioworld.php  (http://www.radioio.com/radioioworld.php)   Charlie Gillett is a London DJ who used to host a weekly two-hour show featuring music from around the world. He suffered some kind of illness and gave up this show; however, he still hosts a half-hour show. If you go here: http://www.charliegillett.com/  (http://www.charliegillett.com/) and then click on ‘bbc world service – listen again’ at the top, you can hear his show. Froots is a British world/folk music magazine that features a monthly two-hour show. The link follows: http://www.frootsmag.com/radio/ (http://www.frootsmag.com/radio/)

Just a few ideas in case you were interested. As far as obscure rock goes, here are a few good Internet stations: http://woxy.lala.com/  (http://woxy.lala.com/) http://www.kexp.org/home.asp?noflash=false  (http://www.kexp.org/home.asp?noflash=false) http://www.xpn.org (http://www.xpn.org) http://www.radioio.com/radioioeclectic.php  (http://www.radioio.com/radioioeclectic.php) http://www.radioio.com/radioiounlimited.php?station=radioioEclectic (http://www.radioio.com/radioiounlimited.php?station=radioioEclectic) . I just found this station, which I’m really enjoying: http://www.nine.org/thismusickills/  (http://www.nine.org/thismusickills/)

Hope this helps!



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 09, 2007, 03:33:48 PM
http://www.nine.org/thismusickills/

thanks, es-gee. way cool.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 10, 2007, 05:19:11 AM
Grobin, the Red&Green box set is well worth getting, as these were the seminal albums of Ali Farka Toure in Europe.  You hear a young raw Ali Farka Toure on several songs that were later remade on Talking Timbuktu and other albums.  I suppose if you have his self-titled CD or The River (both put out by Mango), these CD's may sound similar, but these are high quality CD transfers of the original albums.  I would keep the beautifully packaged box set on your wish list.

On another note, I saw Charles Lloyd last night.  Jason Moran filled in for Geri Allen, so no drop off here.  I had seen Moran last December in Vilnius.  What an incredibly talented young pianist.  Shades of Andrew Hill.  I was similarly impressed with the young drummer, Eric Harland, who was having to make do with a jerry-rigged drum set, as all their instruments were left behind at the Vienna airport.  Robert Hurst filled out the quartet, struggling at times with a rented classical cello.   Lloyd was in fine form, despite having to use rented reeds.  His quartet has been barnstorming Europe.  Most of the selections came from his recent album, Jumping the Creek.  I got a chance to talk to them briefly after the set.  Lloyd is so personable, a far cry from Wayne Shorter who proved inaccessible after his short performance last fall in Vilnius.  Moran is going to be a major figure, and Charles Lloyd spoke highly of him.  I think Harland will develop into a stellar drummer.  Shades of Jack de Johnette, which is what I suppose drew Lloyd to him.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 10, 2007, 08:21:21 AM
Nice to see you providing a link to the Charlie Gillett Show, grobin.  I think the cut in time was mostly a BBC decision, as they have restructured their radio programming, much to their listeners' chagrin.  At 30 minutes, you get the sense Gillett is just warming up before the plug is pulled.  I've picked up many fine world music CD's thanks to this show, and you can also purchase Gillett compilations year by year. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on May 10, 2007, 11:49:58 AM
Hey Burnzy!  Good to hear from you.

Hi Dzimas, I’ll have to check the Ali Farka Toure discs out. I guess too many tunes is a better dilemma than having too few.

I agree; it’s a shame that Charlie Gillett’s show runs out after 30 minutes; like you mentioned, he seems to just be hitting his stride. I also enjoyed his Radio Ping Pong (where a guest comes on and they take turns choosing songs) interviews and I miss them. I have his collections from 2002 until 2006; 2007 should be coming out soon. He has had distribution problems – or so he mentions in his forum on occasion – but I think he’ll be putting out an edition this year.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 10, 2007, 05:59:17 PM
hey, es-gee. good to be heard from (smile). i bookmarked a couple of those world music sites as well.

feel like rockin' right now tho'...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVyEba8xov0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 11, 2007, 07:30:24 AM
Speaking of that old time rock and roll, I see Bob Seger has new album out.  It is strange listening to so much of that late 70s and early 80s music all over again.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 11, 2007, 07:56:05 AM
Speaking of that old time rock and roll, I see Bob Seger has new album out.  It is strange listening to so much of that late 70s and early 80s music all over again.

Strange says have found us. Looking back, moving forward, standing still. We ain't in Kansas anymore. Well, except for those who are in Kansas.


Title: Luddite lament
Post by: chauncey.g on May 11, 2007, 08:01:14 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/07/ntapes07.xml


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 11, 2007, 08:21:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDO3lyq47x0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 11, 2007, 10:29:00 AM
It does seem as though we are still stuck in Kansas sometimes, with all the resurrected pop icons and travelling acts still going under the names of their former glory, even if those who anchored the band sare no longer with them.  A case in point be the resurrected ELO which has been touring Eastern Europe.  The Scorpions are also playing to sold out auditoriums.  Disco and funk music have been remixed into contemporary Hip Hop.  You turn on the tele and they are still showing Urban Cowboy and Saturday Night Fever.  Sends a shutter down one's spine.  Worst of all are the many remakes from Madonna's version of American Pie to Britney Spears covering You Drive Me Crazy. Uggh!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 11, 2007, 11:51:08 AM
I enjoy the band "kansas"  dorothy gail


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 11, 2007, 11:51:52 AM
There is still a lot of good stuff coming out. I've been busying myself with other concerns of late and haven't kept up as I once did, but local radio does a good job of promoting the recent releases.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 11, 2007, 11:53:01 AM
carry on, wayward gale (smile).


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 11, 2007, 01:14:29 PM
Smile....wayward gal.......Amazing how busy we get sometimes and neglact the one true enjoyment we have in our lives...need to make me number 1.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 11, 2007, 01:47:49 PM
sugarblues -- Well, I can't speak directly to your dilemma as I don't know how or why you ceased being number 1 to begin with, but I do know something about losing oneself to external (and internal as well - smile) forces. I've been denying myself one of my favorite pleasures but have the opportunity to see one of your fellow New Englanders this evening. Ever hear of this guy?

http://ellispaul.com/index.php?page=home

I'll get back with a review if you'd like.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on May 11, 2007, 02:02:16 PM
I hadnt heard of him until now.  You going to the cactus cafe?  I would love to hear your review.  The link you sent was interesting.  Let me know how it goes.

Why I'm not number 1....hmmmm spouse, kids, family, work, no time for me


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 11, 2007, 02:06:57 PM
Yeah, I'm going. Been outta the loop for a while and don't know how large a crowd he'll attract and whether the show will sell out (it's a small venue), but I'll plop myself in line and see what happens. I hope to provide you with a review.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 11, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
It's the same old story.  The music industry issues retreads while the young artists venture into alt country and other forms of music trying to create their own niche, some of whom eventually are "discovered," marketed and remixed and served in more palatable mainstream forms.  I suppose we have the college radio stations to think for still trying to mix things up and offer something new from time to time.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on May 11, 2007, 04:40:05 PM
I suppose we have the college radio stations to think for still trying to mix things up and offer something new from time to time.
 


Agreed, but are you talking about US or Lithuanian (you're in Lithuania, right, Dzimas?) college stations? Just wondering.

On the other hand, some of these college stations are formatted along Adult Album Alternative lines and while I prefer their music to classic rock or oldies or other types of stations, I wonder if I'm just listening to something unique or packaged. I live between Baltimore and DC, and can get Penn's station WXPN (thanks to a transmitter they have on the other side of the Chesapeake) and Towson's station (WTMD). Don't get me wrong - I enjoy the new tunes and the style of music. But those stations also seem a little packaged - they play a lot of the same new songs. I guess I shouldn't complain; while they don't get overly adventurous (i.e. their reggae selections never stray beyond Bob Marley) they are public, and are more willing to take risks.

So I guess I will stop complaining. Have a good weekend.
 
 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 12, 2007, 12:34:29 AM
Referring to American college stations, grobin.  I won't even talk about Lithuanian radio stations with its profusion of hip-hop and urban contemporary music, or whatever they call it.  Not that there isn't good popular music, but you only hear it in the local clubs. 

I suppose it is an age old problem, so I shouldn't get too down on the times.  It is just hearing all this recycled 80s music that gets me.  Much of it I hoped never to hear again.  It is funny to watch my kids sometimes vascilate between musicians.  One month my son is getting into Aerosmith, the next he's high on Justin Timberlake.  I suppose that has a lot to do with being 12.  My older daughter seems to be finding a more consistent groove in her musical tastes, now venturing into jazz, thanks to my collection.  Pleasantly surprised to see she has become a big fan of Alice Coltrane.

But there does seem to be a creative void once again in the music and movie industry.  You have to turn to alternative air waves to pick up something interesting.  I've been captivated by the alt country music scene as of late -- Neko Case, Jesse Sykes, M. Ward, etc.  I also like Sufjan Stevens, Regina Spektor and the Decembrists.  So, it is not like I'm out of touch with contemporary currents.


Title: Ellis Paul
Post by: chauncey.g on May 12, 2007, 09:55:04 AM
sugarblues -- Though associated with the Boston folk scene it turns out that Ellis Paul hails from the great state of Maine. He is quite the storyteller and put on a great show last night. Nice poetry and a unique singing voice. I picked up his latest release, "Essentials", and am listening to it right now. Good stuff.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 15, 2007, 10:28:16 AM
Hans Theessink, the Euro-bluesman, does a great version of "Walkin' The Dog" with John Renbourn and John Dickinson on slide guitar.

Here is pt. 1:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4SXWhSoN4r8

and pt. 2:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lpKhsQr0NXc&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 15, 2007, 10:37:24 AM
Enjoying Jesse Sykes' Oh, My Girl.  Nice husky voice for one so young.  Interesting how Seattle and Portland have created such an interesting folk rock world in the Pacific Northwest.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 16, 2007, 10:02:59 AM
Checked out one of Jesse's videos on youtube--good singer!!

Meanwhile, I heard Hella Good this morning by No Doubt and can't get it out of my noggin.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: liquidsilver on May 16, 2007, 10:12:33 AM
Its a shame what Gwen Stefani has become. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: oilcanboyd23 on May 16, 2007, 04:00:22 PM
Morrissey is at the House of Blues in Myrtle Beach on July 21 - mark it, Dude!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 17, 2007, 10:02:06 AM
Listened to Roy Book Binder doing "One Meatball" on way to work. Makes a sunny day even more sunny.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 17, 2007, 02:43:25 PM
Guaranteed smile-inducer and toe-tapper--Lanigan's Ball. I thought that Christy Moore was the originator of this, but it appears to  have been the Bards:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J3s3F1VXFQ4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 18, 2007, 08:16:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNbTC6xLVg0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 18, 2007, 11:03:40 AM
cine-music

finally got around to seeing this flick...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424205/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMiHH13pH4

highly recommended.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 18, 2007, 11:05:32 AM
Love that Aimee Mann song.

NP--O'Connor/Ma/Meyer--Appalachia Waltz.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 18, 2007, 11:16:38 AM
Love that Aimee Mann song.

great film. great soundtrack.


Title: All Things Cooder
Post by: Dzimas on May 19, 2007, 02:08:50 AM
Picked up a couple of CD's this past week.  The first is Ry Cooder's My Name is Buddy, a tribute to his fallen cat, which folds out into a lovely illustrated booklet.  He has enlisted the likes of Pete Seeger and Flaco Jimenez in this latest effort.  The other is a new CD by Mavis Staples,  We'll Never Turn Back, produced by Cooder, in which he and his son join her on the album.  Staples' voice is as strong as ever.  The songs hark back to the Civil Rights era with a sense that a certain amount of "redemption" is taking place to today, and that these events need to be brought to the fore once again.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 21, 2007, 09:18:16 AM
Happy Birthday, Ron Isley...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43gH5KT5s2o


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on May 22, 2007, 10:36:32 AM
There is a new Fountains of Wayne CD out.  Other than the opening cut, the overall effort seems very forced compared to their earlier works.  Musically, I would say they are still the premier practitioners of modern power pop, but lyrically, it was contrived.  If anyone has seen the movie, That Thing You Do   , with Tom Hanks, then you have heard Fountains of Wayne who did all the music for the fictitional band, the ONEders (later The Wonders)

I noticed some earlier posts on Matisyahu. I really got into him back in Dec of 05, when my ex-wife passed away.  It was really soothing.  He is a true believer and it is evident in his lyrics.  Sometime you can find comfort in the strangest of places.  I don't think he is too worried about people not thinking he measures up to Peter Tosh or Jimmy Cliff--he is in it to reach people that might not hear a message otherwise.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 22, 2007, 11:52:41 AM
A friend of mine turned me on to Utopia Parkway and I liked it enough but didn't embrace it to the point of seeking out other releases. I'll check out their website in search of sample tracks of the new one.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on May 22, 2007, 12:20:09 PM
Another great young band to check out is Nightmare of you.  There first CD came out a few months back.

After a couple of listens, every track on the new CD is gem...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 23, 2007, 09:12:38 AM
nightmare of you? crazy, man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o56JZ-k7ODo


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 24, 2007, 04:08:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA_zRGWTeoo


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Kam on May 24, 2007, 04:12:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA_zRGWTeoo

 ;)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 24, 2007, 04:15:51 PM
oops, wrong vid (smile)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYXZEkAC4E


Title: more bug music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 25, 2007, 09:48:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLJMSbEnn0


Title: Re: All Things Cooder
Post by: cincy--man on May 25, 2007, 10:22:26 AM
Picked up a couple of CD's this past week.  The first is Ry Cooder's My Name is Buddy, a tribute to his fallen cat, which folds out into a lovely illustrated booklet.  He has enlisted the likes of Pete Seeger and Flaco Jimenez in this latest effort.  The other is a new CD by Mavis Staples,  We'll Never Turn Back, produced by Cooder, in which he and his son join her on the album.  Staples' voice is as strong as ever.  The songs hark back to the Civil Rights era with a sense that a certain amount of "redemption" is taking place to today, and that these events need to be brought to the fore once again.

Mavis is a huge favorite of mine and esp. the thought of her teamed with Ry Cooder makes this disc a must-listen.


Title: more buggy music on a muggy day
Post by: chauncey.g on May 25, 2007, 01:38:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zzQZ1pjofw


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 25, 2007, 01:50:28 PM
fixin' holes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqTcGyzMJPE


Title: Mavis Staples
Post by: Dzimas on May 26, 2007, 08:44:50 AM
Mavis Staples still sounds very good,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qNEeFQt2Yo

Her latest CD, We'll Never Turn Back, is excellent, with some beautifully subtle strumming by Ry Cooder behind her.


Title: I'll Take You There
Post by: Dzimas on May 26, 2007, 08:46:31 AM
The clip of I'll Take You There is a wonderful time capsule of the early 70's.


Title: Re: I'll Take You There
Post by: chauncey.g on May 26, 2007, 11:06:42 AM
The clip of I'll Take You There is a wonderful time capsule of the early 70's.

dig them 70s threads, baby. here' another who used to be famous for his wardrobe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFLQtHdoKdU


Title: Rock and roll relics
Post by: Dzimas on May 28, 2007, 12:25:26 AM
It was fun to watch Chris Norman at a Lithuanian concert ushering in the summer.  Norman seemed to be a good sport, joining in with Lithuanian singers on several songs including "Stumblin' In," as well as singing his classic, "Living Next Door to Alice," from his "Smokie" fame,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcVLeUFW-AM

Smokie is one of the bands that had managed to crack through the iron curtain, along with Boney M, and receive a grand reception whenever they come to Vilnius, which is quite often.  Never could figure out what the story was behind Alice.  I mean 20 years of living next door to her, and never saying anything to her seems a bit pathetic.


Title: Afternoon Delight
Post by: Dzimas on May 28, 2007, 12:29:17 AM
Wonder whatever happened to the Starland Vocal Band,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5axMyJ_-Z8&mode=related&search=


Title: sore wa, nan desuka
Post by: chauncey.g on May 28, 2007, 10:59:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3ZwQwJ8_2E


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 29, 2007, 10:44:50 AM
Listened to the new Mavis Staples disc on rhapsody over the weekend and it is quite awesome!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 30, 2007, 03:44:11 AM
Can't say that The New Pornographers really grabbed me,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9yBnzNitqM&mode=related&search=

but it seems they put on a fun show.  I picked up their Twin Cinema CD.  Drawn to them through Neko Case,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XJ4qi-PeMs&mode=related&search=

I have her Live from Austin City Limits CD, which is excellent.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 30, 2007, 08:39:05 AM
the missouri state anthem?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVkm4lk_Gk0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on May 30, 2007, 03:10:02 PM
This is an interesting article on the Rolling Stones. It asks if Jagger is still capable of strutting around in concert like he used to. It wonders whether their next tour will be their last. It questions if they've been cast aside as new music trends have gained prominence.

And oh yeah; it's from 1981.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE6D8123BF935A1575BC0A967948260


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 30, 2007, 03:36:27 PM
This is an interesting article on the Rolling Stones. It asks if Jagger is still capable of strutting around in concert like he used to. It wonders whether their next tour will be their last. It questions if they've been cast aside as new music trends have gained prominence.

And oh yeah; it's from 1981.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE6D8123BF935A1575BC0A967948260

from the article... Despite extensive security precautions taken by Rolling Stones Records, a copy of the album (probably a tape) made its way to WNMR, a radio station in Philadelphia, and was broadcast at the beginning of last week.

my how times have changed.

hey, dude. don't worry 'bout bad puns over at the creative writing forum. the entire thread is one big, bad pun.


Title: Re: Afternoon Delight
Post by: TrojanHorse on May 30, 2007, 07:33:54 PM
Wonder whatever happened to the Starland Vocal Band,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5axMyJ_-Z8&mode=related&search=

Afternoon turned into night...the sun set (and the ship sailed) on that band


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on May 30, 2007, 07:42:20 PM
This is an interesting article on the Rolling Stones. It asks if Jagger is still capable of strutting around in concert like he used to. It wonders whether their next tour will be their last. It questions if they've been cast aside as new music trends have gained prominence.

And oh yeah; it's from 1981.


Too Funny...

i saw them at Candlestick Park in the early 80s.  George Thorogood & the Destroyers lead off.  J Giles Band was also there as the 2nd act.  I don't usually like large venues, but that was a fun day as I recall...


Title: Tattoo You
Post by: Dzimas on May 31, 2007, 12:10:27 AM
Tattoo You was a pretty good album, not as good as Some Girls, but it wasn't a letdown.  As for comments on the Stones,  AARP had a cartoon of them racing around in wheel chairs some years back, still up to the same hijinks, which pretty much sums up the Stones as they reach retirement age, but they haven't put out anything new in years.


Title: moody bluesy day
Post by: chauncey.g on May 31, 2007, 10:57:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFFlCXS6RKs


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on May 31, 2007, 10:58:24 AM
Hey Burnzy, no worries - I thought that pun was pretty bad, and by that I mean good. I mean...

My first concert was the first Stones show of that tour, at JFK in 1981. George Thorougood (sp) and Journey opened. I also vaguely remember that station (which was WMMR, not MNR) playing the album, and WYSP (not WYST) recording it. After they did that, MMR would insert "A WMMR exlusive" in the middle of songs so that other stations couldn't do the same.

For what it's worth, that Stones show I saw was on September 25, 1981. I saw the Who (with the unfortunately named Hooters, Santana, and the Clash) at the same venue exactly a year later, on September 25, 1982.

Like the Stones a lot, but I'll stick with the Fabs - they went in, knocked out a bunch of great, innovative songs, and got out before the Seventies could impose its ill will on them.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 31, 2007, 11:23:35 AM
I like the stones, love the beatles, but live the kinks, baby...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP_egAh45aI


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on May 31, 2007, 01:29:41 PM
I like the stones, love the beatles, but live the kinks, baby...

Does that mean you fight with your brother all the time?

Ken from the old forum was a fan, from what I remember; too bad he didn't migrate over here.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 31, 2007, 01:36:56 PM
Speaking of music from the era of the 60's let us not forget the king of the surf guitar: Dick Dale!!  Here is his classic: Miserlou:

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=miserlou&search=Search

From that you can take a trip down memory lane and see the video of the Ventures playing Walk Don't Run:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6Wjzom-WNXE&mode=related&search=

Dammit it but it all seems so innocent now!!! Hard to believe that was the cold war era where we all thought we could be incinerated on 90 sec. notice!


On another and more important topic, I have agreed to do fundraising for the muscular dystrophy campaign. They even let me set up a special fund-raising website:  

https://www.mdaevent.org/ParticipantInfo.aspx?j=c039cb0d-f8fb-4ceb-a880-27d7c1b3b6f7

I encourage all to visit and make a generous donation. I am sure I do not need to tell how how horrible this disease is especially  as to children and the great work done by the MDA. Thank you in advance for your generosity.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on May 31, 2007, 01:46:42 PM
Hi, cincy-man.  I decided to join you here, among other refugees from the NYTimes forum.  thanks for alerting me.

Are there any Richard Thompson fans here?  Ditto Kasey Chambers fans?

I saw the mention of Hans Theessink's name and, thanks to cincy-man, can vouch that Theessink is great.

I've been fighting with my cable company to get Music Choice's Americana channel on their music stations.  It is really difficult to get new talents on the air that aren't rock, hip hop or teeny bopper music.  Cosi plays some great stuff: Kasey, Ry Cooder, John Prine, etc. but there is no mention of who's singing.   :(



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on May 31, 2007, 02:14:41 PM
The Kinks were a fantastic band.    Muswell Hillbillies...can't beat it...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 31, 2007, 02:19:10 PM
I like the stones, love the beatles, but live the kinks, baby...

Does that mean you fight with your brother all the time?

Ken from the old forum was a fan, from what I remember; too bad he didn't migrate over here.


(smile) No, my brothers and I just stay away from each other. Cuts down on the scrapping.

Speaking of scrapping... Ken may have been a Kinks fan but what I remember was him trying to convince me that The Beatles were greater. Or maybe he thought I believed The Kinks were greater. Or maybe we both just liked to argue too much (smile). Ken, if you're out there lurking, drop on in. I've mellowed.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 31, 2007, 02:23:53 PM
Howdy, lulu.

NYTimes refugee burnzred.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on May 31, 2007, 02:29:21 PM
Howdy back at you.  why the name change? 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on May 31, 2007, 02:33:45 PM
Howdy back at you.  why the name change? 

Oh, been through many changes of late. Too many and too personal to go into here, but thanks for asking.

Good to see more refugees popping in. Maybe this place will become more active.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on May 31, 2007, 03:52:17 PM
Great to see you here lulu....thanks for joining.

Kasey Chambers is indeed awesome. One of the worthies here also posted a video of Neko Case at her ACL performance, and I was lucky enough today to find a cd at the library of the same and am listening to it now. Awesome!!   :o

I need to do more Richard Thompson listening. If you want something really interesting and obscure see if you can find a recording of his collaboration with Philip Picket, The Bones of All Men:

http://www.amazon.com/Bones-Philip-Pickett-Richard-Thompson/dp/B000005Z1X/ref=sr_1_37/102-1836052-2131349?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1180641090&sr=1-37


Title: slow down, you move too fast
Post by: chauncey.g on June 01, 2007, 11:12:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOZ0eII2WVU&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 01, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
Or maybe we both just liked to argue too much (smile). Ken, if you're out there lurking, drop on in. I've mellowed.

Would also be good to see Ajab make a cameo.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 01, 2007, 12:34:37 PM
I tried to coax sammie, wedgie and fawlty on over but they're happy over at Golfoverflow. Maybe I'll drop the jabber an e-mail, but I believe he's content with spending his free time with family.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 01, 2007, 01:27:58 PM
I haven't been to the Overflow in a while; I'll have to check in. Fawlty showed up here at the golf forum, but it seems to have been a one-time event. Can't blame Ajab for sticking with the family, but maybe he's also working on the Ron Paul campaign.

OK, music. Got nothing. Anybody have the new Wilco? I pushed this over in the NYT forums, but I am still spellbound by the collaboration by Ali Farka Toure and Toumani Diabate called In the Heart of the Moon. Just beautiful.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 01, 2007, 01:42:53 PM
I haven't been to the Overflow in a while; I'll have to check in. Fawlty showed up here at the golf forum, but it seems to have been a one-time event. Can't blame Ajab for sticking with the family, but maybe he's also working on the Ron Paul campaign.

OK, music. Got nothing. Anybody have the new Wilco? I pushed this over in the NYT forums, but I am still spellbound by the collaboration by Ali Farka Toure and Toumani Diabate called In the Heart of the Moon. Just beautiful.

Wedgie has become... uh, how should I say this? A bit more enigmatic than usual.

Heard the new Wilco on local radio but was on the road headed back from San Antone in my noisy pick-up. What I heard sounded great.


Title: Elvin Jones
Post by: chauncey.g on June 01, 2007, 09:59:47 PM
es-gee

I believe I mentioned this scene many moons ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74MvcFBLJdY


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 01, 2007, 10:10:57 PM
aw hell... may as well post the opening. cool acrylic guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeHZecjraGs


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 03, 2007, 01:22:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Fer1CR0IE&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 04, 2007, 03:58:20 AM
I am amused that so much attention was given to The Beatles Sgt. Peppers  last week on it's 40th anniv.All kinds of talk about it being a groundbreaking album etc.What a load of tripe.Sgt.Peppers was the Beatles response to"Pet Sounds" something Paul has said many times.Brian Wilson did in"Pet Sounds" what others copied for years.


Title: Sgt. Pepper
Post by: Dzimas on June 04, 2007, 06:39:44 AM
I don't know, Sgt. Pepper has had a tremendous influence over the years, so it is not surprising to see it getting the attention it gets 40 years later.  I suppose there were more influential albums, but Sgt. Pepper would be in just about everyone's Top Ten.  This coming from someone who has never been a great fan of The Beatles.  I'm much more excited about the soon to be released box set of The Traveling Wilburys:

http://www.amazon.com/Traveling-Wilburys-2CD-1DV-Deluxe/dp/B000OYC1J0/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-9042347-4177625?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1180953515&sr=1-2


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 04, 2007, 02:05:40 PM
Dzimas, I agree on the influence of Pepper. Granted, it was a response to Pet Sounds, but I think that the Beatles ratcheted the Pet Sounds concept up significantly.

I love Pepper, but if I had to choose a favorite album by the Fabs I'd probably choose Rubber Soul or Abbey Road. I'm fascinated by where Pepper stands in the Beatle chronology however; it came after another candidate for greatest album (Revolver) and possibly their best single (Strawberry Fields), and was succeeded by Mystery Tour, Lady Madonna, and Hey Jude. Plus, they recorded a few really good songs for the Yellow Submarine soundtrack. It's amazing how much great stuff they churned out in such a short span.

I had a tough weekend, musically. VH1 had a great cheesy show on soft rock, and I couldn't shake those songs until today. David Soul, Christopher Cross, Andrew Gold, Styx, etc. Great stuff (I write with tongue in cheek.)

Hey Burnzy, thanks for the clips.


Title: Steve Forbert
Post by: Dzimas on June 05, 2007, 05:11:14 AM
Grobin, just too much of the late 70s and early 80s music on the air these days.  Gives me the shivers sometimes, thinking "Gawd, I really liked some of this music at the time."  But, I have been finding musicians I missed such as Steve Forbert,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtaO_oIQmBY&mode=related&search=

not sure when this home video was made, but it seems relatively recent.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 05, 2007, 10:48:35 AM
Hi Dzimas, thanks for the link; I'll have to check it out at home. I remember Steve Forbert's hit from the early eighties (I guess) - that 'meet me in the middle of the day, let me hear you say...' song. He gets some airplay on AAA (adult album alternative) radio sometimes; I like what I've heard.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on June 05, 2007, 02:04:16 PM
cincy-man

While rummaging through my cds, in blues mode (after listening to Quasthoff and his amazing album) I put on Neko case and forgot just how good she is.  Now, if I can find her other cds.  Put on Judy and Bonnie and Mance and Theessink.

But I forgot all about Neko!  Something to be said about having a collection in total disarray.  I may not find what I'm looking for but I do find what I'm not looking for and get quite a surprise.  Like finding a new record.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 05, 2007, 04:04:23 PM
Lulu--I know so well what you describe about looking for one thing and finding also another that demands your attention. I have a large collection and many people cannot understand why. That is a huge reason. The old discs still sound new because its been so long since the last listen.

We both love Roderick...so many good songs. But there is one that is just so powerful..."Mistreated".

Glad you mentioned the blues because I was just listening to one of my very favorites on youtube, Doug MacLeod. There are a fair number of his songs on youtube so you can get a good idea of his songwriting, his singing and his slide playing on nat'l steel. This will get you started: 
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=doug+macleod&search=Search

What a great resource youtube can be!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 05, 2007, 04:36:43 PM
Lulu:

Cashdollar is wonderful. Last I heard, she was with Asleep at the Wheel.

I was very lucky to hear Marcia Ball live last fall. She was part of an extensive line up over a 5 day festival and was by far the best live act of all.

Good news:  Mollie O'Brien has a new disc which you can buy at her site: www.mollieobrien.com. 

Of course you can call me by whatever name suits you. I will post this also on the pop music site.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on June 06, 2007, 02:43:49 PM
jacobs:

what a great resource I already have:

You

 :)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 06, 2007, 03:44:39 PM
Lulu--you are gonna make me blush.

But check this out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lXUJKZE5VjU.

As described at you tube:
"Excerpts from our Feb 2007 evening length performance of ABRAVANEL, inspired by the culture, music, history and journey of the Sephardic Jewish people. www.syrendance.org (more)"

 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 07, 2007, 03:11:14 AM
Dzimas,noticed your latest pic of "Endless Summer"I have a near pristine LP soundtrack for that flick that I found in a closet of our Frat House in Boston back in 79.It was opened but the vinyl looked like new.Before CD'S and such came along it was worth some money but don't know about it nowdays.We all loved the song"Six Pack" which starts out with the opening sounds of a Six Pack.I also had at one time the movie house size poster for it in several sections but I am not sure it still is somewhere in the nooks of my Apt.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 07, 2007, 03:32:27 AM
I love the movie and the soundtrack.  It really captures the spirit of that era.  A relatively recent movie, "Riding Giants," showed some vintage surfing of the early days in Hawaii along with the lifestyle of the 60s, which inspired Laird Hamilton, which the film focuses on.


Title: Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Post by: Dzimas on June 07, 2007, 08:42:21 AM
Listening to Nick Cave's Abbatoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus, which came as a very pleasant surprise a couple of years ago when I bought it.  Seems Nick experienced an epiphany as there is such a strong gospel feel to the songs, complete with backing chorus on the stunning My Beautiful World.  Very tempted to buy the live edition,

http://www.amazon.com/Abattoir-Blues-Tour-2CD%2B2DVD-Seeds/dp/B000N3SSP8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9042347-4177625?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1181219991&sr=1-1


Title: There She Goes, My Beautiful World
Post by: Dzimas on June 07, 2007, 08:57:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1fzqtTV2EE

It's a done deal.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on June 07, 2007, 01:43:11 PM
Any Richard Thompson fans out there?  I just received his newest and it's in my stack of new cds (either purchased or sent by friends who must be burning away like crazy).

Has anyone ordered the new springsteen live in Ireland?  Another one I must get.

so much and so little time.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: MrUtley3 on June 08, 2007, 05:27:15 PM
So, what's you're favorite Freddy Mercury song?

Elton John song?


For me, Mercury: "Who Wants to Live Forever?" 

and John: "Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word"



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 11, 2007, 12:11:50 AM
http://www.thestate.com/154/story/86861.html


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: barton on June 12, 2007, 11:18:32 AM
I don't have a particular favorite Elton John song, but I did feel that my understanding of the refrain in Rocket Man was very hard won.  In fact, I wonder how many people could parse, "Rocket Man, burning out his fuse up here alone" by simply listening to the song.  Before the internet, and absent owning the album in which lyrics were printed on the sleeve, I engaged in years of speculation about that line.  Sometimes I would hear it as "Rocket Man, turning out his foods in Avalon," sometimes as "Rocket Man, burning up his shoes in air balloon," and many other variations, all of which seemed teasingly close, none of which made much sense.

I used to have a roommate who really liked "Tiny Dancer," which I initally liked, but severe repetition didn't increase my liking.

I like the humor of "Social Disease," from the GBYBR album.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 12, 2007, 01:09:55 PM
So, what's you're favorite Freddy Mercury song?



Kind of hard to beat Bohemian Rhapsody...depends on what you're looking for I suppose


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on June 12, 2007, 01:12:18 PM
So, what's you're favorite Freddy Mercury song?



Kind of hard to beat Bohemian Rhapsody...depends on what you're looking for I suppose

Well, there is the one about him being a sex machine ready to explode.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 12, 2007, 01:12:55 PM
Elton John...

Probably Philadelphia Freedom...but only because of the mental image it produces for me every time I hear the song...not so much the song itself...   Letter Girls...High School... you get the idea...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 12, 2007, 02:37:27 PM
Probably Philadelphia Freedom...

Trivia: what is the song a reference to? No googling now.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on June 12, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
Probably Philadelphia Freedom...

Trivia: what is the song a reference to? No googling now.

Soccer team? 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 12, 2007, 02:44:55 PM
Those would be the Philadelphia Atoms, Fury, or Fever. You're in the ballpark though...

Man, hadn't thought of those teams in years.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 12, 2007, 03:42:15 PM
pro tennis team?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 12, 2007, 05:25:26 PM
Ya know...  I always took it at face value and assumed it was the declaration of independence -- it came out right before the bicentenial and all that...

I guess now you're going to tell us some wild story???


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on June 12, 2007, 09:00:51 PM
Ya know...  I always took it at face value and assumed it was the declaration of independence -- it came out right before the bicentenial and all that...

I guess now you're going to tell us some wild story???

Yeah, but in that era was also "You're in My Heart" by Rod Stewart, which was about a soccer team, too -- at least I think, maybe that's another urban legend thing -- so knowing EJ was a big soccer and/or rugby (and why not cricket while I'm a it?) fan....well, that was my rationale.

(Quieting down, ready to hear the wild story.)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 13, 2007, 07:52:40 AM
I never was a very big Elton John fan, but he had some good songs.  For fans, I guess that would be an understatement. 

Anyway, find myself longing for back albums of Emmylou Harris these days, picking up Bluebird and now Heartaches and Highways.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 13, 2007, 08:09:37 AM
Can't blame Ajab for sticking with the family, but maybe he's also working on the Ron Paul campaign.

forgive me; couldn't resist this.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/thornton/thornton35.html


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 13, 2007, 08:18:19 AM
I never was a very big Elton John fan, but he had some good songs.  For fans, I guess that would be an understatement. 

Anyway, find myself longing for back albums of Emmylou Harris these days, picking up Bluebird and now Heartaches and Highways.

ah, yes. if only i were a bluebird. or you were a bluebird. or a hotel. or a highway. or, or...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 13, 2007, 09:36:10 AM
Well, unfortunately it's not a terribly crazy story, but at the time Billie Jean King owned a World Team Tennis team called the Philadelphia Freedoms, and she and Elton were friends. Hence the song.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 13, 2007, 10:01:12 AM
On the topic of Emmylou Harris two of my faves of hers are Cowgirls Prayer and Live at the Ryman. I am not a religious person at all but her rendition of Tommorow in Jerusalem on the first album gives me the goosebumps.

Right now listening to a great set of Dylan covers by the estimable Tim O'Brien. I am sure others might beg to differ but I prefer his versions to the orginals, but that is quirky ol me.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: whiskeypriest on June 13, 2007, 02:17:41 PM
Only Emmy Lou Harris I have is her backing Gram Parsons on GP and Grievous Angel,


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 13, 2007, 02:54:43 PM
drink no, smoke yes. now that's quirky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjH50O94hSw


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 13, 2007, 04:16:09 PM
we take only cash on this planet of apes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFtL7uD5uTo


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on June 13, 2007, 04:20:19 PM
jacobs:

I too love that Jerusalem song, even though you know what's coming.  Those two cds are two of my favorites.  Another one is Bluebird, with a wonderful version of Hiatt's Icy Blue Heart.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 13, 2007, 04:46:57 PM
Emmy Lou Harris was never one of my favorites...but Graham Parsons...now that's a horse of a different color...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 13, 2007, 09:13:00 PM
If anyone's around and is not listening already, PBS is doing a program of Sting doing Dowland's Music on the Lute and from his song-book.

Started at 9:00p.m.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 13, 2007, 09:16:33 PM
Is there a national network programing for PBS?   I just assumed that every local station had different programs and times...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 14, 2007, 03:14:28 AM
All of Emmy Lou Harris's  albums from the early 70's to early 80's are great.She has a great voice and a great eye in putting together those albums.Pancho&Lefty,Beneath Still Waters,Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town,etc,etc.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 14, 2007, 03:21:41 AM
P.S. Those were song titles.The albums were ,Luxury Liner,Elite Hotel,Blue Kentucky Girl(my fave), Roses in the Snow, and Quarter Moon in a Ten Cent Town. I converted frat brothers to Emmy Lou who had never heard of her before.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 14, 2007, 03:26:40 AM
 Trojanhorse,Regarding PBS A majority of the stations share prime time programs but I notice your Orange County PBS runs different shows than KCET up the road in Los Angeles.That said I watch the Orange County station as much or more than KCET.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 14, 2007, 09:38:19 AM
lulu--when the clarinet part comes in at the end of Jerusalem Tomorrow, it gets me every time. Not many pieces of music make me moist, but that one does. Another is Sunrise, Sunset. Old softie,  me.

On the topic of NPR, go to www.npr.org.

Anyone who can convert a frat house to emmylou has amazing powers of persuasion or is the baddest ass on the block.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 14, 2007, 11:01:21 AM
Trojanhorse,Regarding PBS A majority of the stations share prime time programs but I notice your Orange County PBS runs different shows than KCET up the road in Los Angeles.That said I watch the Orange County station as much or more than KCET.

maybe that's why I assumed that they all ran their own programming independently.  THese two rarely have the same show on at the same time...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on June 14, 2007, 04:20:31 PM
jacobs:

Because it resembles klezmer music or Jewish music?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 14, 2007, 08:54:07 PM
never know what you can dig up as a rainstorm rolls by...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGuuOSZq-II


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 15, 2007, 03:17:35 AM
I've been going through a collection of 1500 plus LP'S I have looking for ones in decent shape to take to my brothers in San Diego to transfer some of the songs.He just got one of those turntables you plug into computer and transfer.I found an album "The Kenny Rankin Album" from the late 70's that I had forgotten about.Though I wasn't a huge fan this album is a gem.Roomates on Cape Cod and Frat Bros used to play this all the time after they heard it.He does a great version of"Groovin" on it and almost every song is a keeper.I also found a bootleg Neil Young live from way back on Zerox Records that has a nice version of "Sugar Mountain".


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 15, 2007, 09:31:38 AM
I've been going through a collection of 1500 plus LP'S I have looking for ones in decent shape to take to my brothers in San Diego to transfer some of the songs.He just got one of those turntables you plug into computer and transfer.I found an album "The Kenny Rankin Album" from the late 70's that I had forgotten about.Though I wasn't a huge fan this album is a gem.Roomates on Cape Cod and Frat Bros used to play this all the time after they heard it.He does a great version of"Groovin" on it and almost every song is a keeper.I also found a bootleg Neil Young live from way back on Zerox Records that has a nice version of "Sugar Mountain".

They are selling at Costco for about $125.


I don't think I have 1500 LPs, but probably about 1,000...   I was an Album Rock DJ in the late 70s


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 15, 2007, 09:44:05 AM
My brother (he's younger than me) and I shared a record collection and we had some decent stuff. He sold our entire collection to some used record store in Worcester, MA for beer money back in the eighties. The collection was nothing special, but it did have the original US version of Meet the Beatles and the Mystery Tour album with the booklet. For some reason the Beatles never put the booklet in the disc version. I miss those.

On another note, I contend that if you're a musician, wearing your group's t-shirt is uncool.

And if the t-shirt is a tank top, it's even more uncool.

And if you're wearing a mullet while wearing said t-shirt, then your uncoolness may be affecting your social life.

Speaking of which, I caught an old video by the Alarm last night.




Kidding; I actually liked those guys. I heard Mike Peters has cancer; I hope he's ok.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 15, 2007, 10:00:29 AM
jacobs:

Because it resembles klezmer music or Jewish music?

That may be a part of it, but Klezemer does not usually have that effect on me. Just something about those particular songs.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 15, 2007, 11:38:37 AM
jacobs:

Because it resembles klezmer music or Jewish music?

That may be a part of it, but Klezemer does not usually have that effect on me. Just something about those particular songs.

You have me curious about whose particular songs resembles Klezemer?
Al Yankovich?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 15, 2007, 02:00:51 PM
mad--the song is "Jerusalem Tomorrow" by Emmylou Harris on her Cowgirl's Prayer album. At the very end a clarinet appears and has a strong klezmer feel to it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on June 15, 2007, 02:33:43 PM
jacobs:

I know your response already but I was asked by several people for you to come back.  I'm not sure I want to but I was asked to relay that message by people who do care and not the other idiots.

FYI

I haven't been posting there, except to say how rotten they were/are and how closed they are.


Title: Janie always said I was a mess
Post by: Kam on June 16, 2007, 12:56:58 AM
I'm sorry about that mess...

I made... her... bleed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LHm1VHg1QU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LHm1VHg1QU)

Still I knew she could take it. 

If i opened up the middle then I knew it could make it.

I hope her parents love her so.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 18, 2007, 10:20:13 AM
lulu--

Thanks for relaying the message. I would never tell you what to do or not do about posting in the nytimes forum.

I do not want to appear as if I am sulking in my tent. The one poster who referred to me as an interloper (diego or some such) really did piss me off. If that had occurred face to face,  I probably would have taken a swing at him.


But honestly, I really think that I have very little to share with others who do not engage in such insulting actions (one of whom...henniing?....actually made a thoughtful reply), nor do they have much to share with me. Musically we are in different worlds without much dialogue or interaction. I have posted there on several occasions on the music that I like and it receves scant if any response. So I am better off (as are they) living peacefully in my separate world. As you know the classical music that really excites me is the very early stuff and if anyone really wants to share that love,  they always post in the classical discussion here.

Unless there is really a good reason for me to go back there, I will decline. I do thank and appreciate those who in a spirit of good will did communicate with you on this topic.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 18, 2007, 01:54:40 PM
Yeah, that early period of classical music is the bomb.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 18, 2007, 02:02:48 PM
In some cases ignorance is bliss. In others it is pathetic. In your case, you make the choice.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on June 18, 2007, 02:46:10 PM
jbottle:

Was that tongue in cheek or merely ignorance?

jacobs:

My friend Brian from down under who used to post on Classical Music is a BIG KC fan and said she is HUGE in Australia.  He turned me on to Kasey's family band, The Dead Ringer Band, and one hearing and you know why they took that title.  Kasey and her family are great with Americana music and I have practically all the Dead Ringer band cds (missing one or two which I should get).

Check the Band out if you love Kasey.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 18, 2007, 04:07:49 PM
lulu--couldnt find dead ringer songs on myspace or youtube...hopefully ill be able to check em out on rhapsody tonight.
I do like Kasey Chambers!

Curious to see if and how jbottle answers your question. I have my opinion, but I will keep it to myself for the moment.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 18, 2007, 06:33:35 PM
Was I being tongue-in-cheek when I said I liked "Classical Music:  The Early Years," uh, yeah, and this isn't the Classical Music forum or anything so I think I could make a joke without being accused of ignorance or bliss, but hey if this is you, raise your hand:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113862/


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 18, 2007, 06:59:39 PM
That's okay, jbottle, I could say the same thing that I like early music -- like The Academy of Ancient Music, and the Academy of St. Martin in the Fields.

But there are reasons for everything...


Title: Speaking of Early music
Post by: Kam on June 18, 2007, 08:12:18 PM
I like waking up to this sunny tune by a little band known as ... the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S5W4ydtM6w

peace brah


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 18, 2007, 08:18:33 PM
happy bithday paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWo3q_t8x0Y


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 18, 2007, 10:30:53 PM
Hey Burnzy, I'll drink to that. FWIW, 'Til There Was You' was the only song on Meet the Beatles that they didn't write. The Brit equivalent, With the Beatles, had several other covers.

For any reggae fans out there: Johnny Greenwood is in Radiohead, and a big reggae fan. Trojan Records invited him to put together a compilation, and the resulting work came out recently and is called 'Johnny Greenwood is the Controller'. I'm still giving it its first spin, but so far so good. Nice stuff.

And just to square the circle, Paul McCartney said that O-Bla-Di O-Bla-Da was a stab at reggae, which was a relatively new genre at the time. I've wondered if 'Desmond' referred to Desmond Dekker, who's 'Israelites' would later be knocked off the British top spot by Let It Be (if I remember correctly). And I find the Anthology version of O-Bla-Di to be more fun than the White Album version.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 19, 2007, 02:51:56 AM
While Desmond Dekker was first and foremost a Ska artist and then a reggae  singer"The Israelites" I guess was considered Reggae but O-Bla-Di is a Ska attempt.Ska was a influence in the UK at the time."My Boy Lollipop" was probably the biggest crossover hit of it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 19, 2007, 03:25:54 AM
Speaking of the Israelites,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e2aRfqp1sY&mode=related&search=

Seems like the video dates from the late 70s or early 80s when Reggae had gained prominence.  Kind of sad to see a great song like this reduced to what looks like a European equivalent of American Bandstand.  Here is a short piece on Ska:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbIiFCAzMvg&mode=related&search=


Title: Who shot the sheriff?
Post by: Dzimas on June 19, 2007, 03:33:18 AM
Ska and reggae have had such a huge influence on British pop music from The English Beat to UB40 to Fine Young Cannibals, and affected American music as well.  Who can forget Eric Clapton's version of "I Shot the Sheriff,"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10qLYy6hiFQ&mode=related&search=

as compared to this vintage footage of Bob Marley,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrnZSLwfzVs&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 19, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
NP:  Ray Charles: Ruby



Title: Re: Richard Thompson
Post by: lulu on June 19, 2007, 10:08:03 AM
His new album is excellent, Sweet Warrior.  Great song on Iraq: "Dad's Gonna Kill Me."

Thompson is back in great form and highly recommend for Thompson fans.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 19, 2007, 11:43:30 AM
I just heard Fergie's new song "big girls don't cry"...not sure if that is the correct title.  If it isn't dont yell at me!  I have to say I like this song very much.  I don't usually care for that style of music but this one hit home.....

Suns out, clothes on the line, drinking pepsi one....wished for something else but that will have to do for now!  Ma Kettle LIVES


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 19, 2007, 12:26:53 PM
Impossible not to think of Ma Kettle and not smile!!!  ::)

Cincy has had great clothes drying weather. ..but too much of it and for too long!!

Will try to check out the  Fergie song.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 19, 2007, 12:59:46 PM
Found the Fergie video at youtube. Hmmm...Fergie using a clothesline?  Who wouldda thunk it?  ;)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 19, 2007, 02:36:36 PM
 ;D Gosh darn ...thats right.  I forgot about the clothesline.  Didnt really care for the video.  Have you heard the new maroon 5 cd?  Let me know your thoughts.

Had a 5 1/2 hour meeting last night....drinking coffee now...NEED some pick me up...any suggestions


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 19, 2007, 04:18:28 PM
Haven't heard the new Maroon 5 disc yet.

Hmmmm....pick me up.....lobster shake?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 19, 2007, 06:59:00 PM
Who is Thompson?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: whiskeypriest on June 19, 2007, 07:26:43 PM
Who is Thompson?
Richard Thompson is freaking God, my friend.  He's been around since the 60's (Fairport Convention), released, with his then wife Linda, two of the greatest albums of the 70's (Shoot Out the Lights, I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight) and has put out tons of mostly brilliant, occasionally not quite so brilliant stuff since.

As for his general lyrical out look.... see quote from Row Boys Row below.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: whiskeypriest on June 19, 2007, 07:35:59 PM
End of the Rainbow

- Richard Thompson

I feel for you, you little horror
Safe at your mother’s breast
No lucky break for you around the corner
‘Cos your father is a bully
And he thinks that you’re a pest
And your sister, she’s no better than a whore

Life seems so rosy in the cradle
but I’ll be a friend, I’ll tell you what’s in store
There’s nothing at the end of the rainbow
There’s nothing to grow up for anymore

Tycoons and barrow boys will rob you
And throw you on the side
And all because they love themselves sincerely
And the man holds a bread-knife
Up to your throat, is four feet wide
And he’s anxious just to show you what it’s for

Your mother works so hard to make you happy
But take a look outside the nursery door
There’s nothing at the end of the rainbow
There’s nothing to grow up for anymore
 
All the sad and empty faces
That pass you on the street
All running in their sleep, all in a dream
Every loving handshake
Is just another man to beat
How your heart aches just to cut him to the core

Life seems so rosy in the cradle
but I’ll be a friend, I’ll tell you what’s in store
There’s nothing at the end of the rainbow
There’s nothing to grow up for anymore

Though most people will tell you his main claim to fame is that he is one of the best guitarists anywhere, in a british folk/blues/polka style.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 19, 2007, 10:59:12 PM
Thanks, I was thinking Thompson Twins:

Like the lyrics, but I like to take a more cosmic view of how lousy people are, but I suppose he's really talking about a moment, and wishing it weren't true for the child, the disappointment, to see, though, is a nice opportunity.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: rmdig on June 19, 2007, 11:06:44 PM
The double cd Best of Richard and Linda Thompson is very good.  "The Great Valerio" is one of my favorite songs.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 20, 2007, 01:09:43 AM
I remember being very disappointed in Denver, when I stopped off there on the way out to San Francisco, tracing the route of Kerouac in On The Road.  This was back in the 80s.  Boulder was a much more lively place at the time.  Great radio station, playing full sides of albums.  Tea for the Tillerman and Joe Jackson's Night and Day as I remember.  I lost the signal all too quickly as I headed into the Rockies.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: whiskeypriest on June 20, 2007, 05:14:47 AM
The double cd Best of Richard and Linda Thompson is very good.  "The Great Valerio" is one of my favorite songs.
Mine may be "Wall of Death."  He does a nice job with those circus motifs.

What ever happened to Linda, anyway?  I know, I know; google.

Welcome, by the way.  Long time no.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: rmdig on June 20, 2007, 07:37:26 AM
Hey, whiskey.  According to a bio at All Music Guide, Linda lost her voice for about 10 years due to a stress disorder.  I haven't heard her recordings for Rounder Records.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 20, 2007, 10:43:01 AM
NP--"Close Together" from Angela Strehli's Deja Blue disc.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 20, 2007, 10:56:45 AM
On the ever-popular topic of “early” music, the type that lulu and I usually discuss is more in the renaissance-medieval time frame. If you are interested in more detail, check out my amazon list on this topic:
http://www.amazon.com/Sampling-my-favorite-medieval-music/lm/L0CGE530I3LY/ref=cm_lm_byauthor_title_full/102-1836052-2131349


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 20, 2007, 08:42:23 PM
Thanks!   This stuff always makes me want to dance.   That is, I used to but I'm not up to it anymore. This goes back to Louis Horst who introduced Pre-classic dance forms. 

Since the subject came up, I'd begun to wonder how I became interested; and after listening to the opener on your list, I think it goes right back to Laurence Olivier's: Richard, the IIIrd., where he puts the fix on Lady Anne/Claire Bloom, over her dead husband.

Here's another example of what film has done with this music --

16th.century  Retour de Martin Guerre  Carriere,director;
but I extend my interest as far as:
Sainte Colombe,  17th. century, Tous les matins du monde   Corneau,dir.

Merci


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 21, 2007, 10:40:55 AM
np--John Renbourn (Ship of Fools): I LIVE NOT WHERE I LOVE.

I am also in a celebratory mood since I received word that the next grandchild will be a girl!! Will celebrate with very upbeat dance like celtic music!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 21, 2007, 12:25:42 PM
Madupont:
 
TY for checking out the list. It is great too see you are also in tune with the spirit of the music. So many think that this is nothing more then “contemplative” (or dreary?) chant-like songs. It is more often a mix of spirited, energetic and dance like music and ballads that are evocative in their tuneful simplicity.
 
The first item is La Roque ‘n’ Roll,  one of the many Baltimore Consort releases which is indeed very dance-like and energetic in many parts. I put it no. 1 on my list because I think it is one of the best ways for someone not familiar with this genre to listen to and enjoy it.

But it also contains one of the most engaging  melodies ever written, Un jeune fillette. The same song that was one of the musical gems in the ST to the film,”Tous les Matins du Monde”. The stark and unpretentious simplicity of the song contributes greatly to its deep appeal, IMHO.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 21, 2007, 01:01:14 PM
I think that people misunderstand that culturally these were danced; rather than the notion of the ballade Provencal of some wandering Huguenots in the time of Catherine de Medici.   In my household, overhearing the sample, someone said,"madrigal". I said, No.  (not the same thing, related perhaps but one is not the other). In Spain, dancing of these pre-classic dance-forms was done in the Roman Catholic Church as part of liturgical services.

If I find something on Horst's work, will post.

Meanwhile in explanation of above paragraph, hope you have had a chance to see, Queen Margot (1994) by Patrice Chereau


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 21, 2007, 02:14:54 PM
I've not seen that movie. Should I put it on the netflix list?

Of course the topic of "early" music and dance brings to mind the Playford tunes and English Country Dancing. Have you explored that?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 21, 2007, 03:16:31 PM
I've not seen that movie. Should I put it on the netflix list?

Of course the topic of "early" music and dance brings to mind the Playford tunes and English Country Dancing. Have you explored that?

It is perhaps the best film in regard to the period of the Huguenot split, and the Dutch backing to go to war, following the St. Bartholmew's Day Massacre initiated by Queen Catharine who being a Medici manages to poison her own son heir to the throne.  It's a great insight into the reality of these people as people; having most of our bad habits and oft tempted.


re: English Country Dancing, for awhile I was strongly tempted myself -- there are regular weekly sessions of Scots Country dancing in Mercer county, New Jersey which was settled by the Scots in the 17th.century round and "aboot" Princeton. The settlement crosses into Pennsylvania, as this was once actually part of Penns Woods, so they hold the Scots games and gathering of the clans over there on that side of the Delaware River.  Every now and then the Black Watch Pipers drop by at the park on the Pennsylvania side of Washington's Landing.  On that drone...

I once had an odd occurrence when living at Hopewell, when I could plainly hear a piper playing but could not figure where they were, the sound seemed to come from behind the house and uphill to what I called, "the moor" as it was a flat level place at the very top of the rise where farmers still planted, and wild turkeys roamed, in the method of early English farmers in that area who used what is called a wagon-wheel format with a village square in the center of the wheel and then pie-shaped partitions with their homes on the square usually in a valley while their land rose behind the houses. It is difficult to cultivate in this way unless terraces are made. I was living in the old offices of the town's newspaper up on the third floor under the trees as if in a tree house but, from these windows, I could see across to High Fields which Charles Lindbergh had built, turning a piece of previously terraced land into an air-strip.

After looking everywhere for that apparently marching bagpiper, by following the sound, I went back around to my front windows -- and there she was! Down in the village square  where I soon found out that she had parked her car in order to find a place to practice because she had been counting off directional steps as she marched and turned, marched and turned. She figured a public place was the best bet, compared to a,ah,"public place" but soon encountered a bold move by my next door neighbour, a Conservative  Jewish rabbi which means that she could also be defined as a lady rabbi.  Apparently, she had "had it", and didn't exactly slam her front door but looked for the traffic, crossed the street to accost the bag-piper. No violence, nothing like that,but the piper smartly let the air out of the bag, detached the pipes, and packed them all into the trunk of her car and off she went never to be heard from again. Unfortunately. It was one of those things that we could have used every so often to break up the monotony of country life, which is I'm sure why country-dancing was adopted in those parts.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on June 21, 2007, 03:27:23 PM
Queen Margot is a wonderful movie with the excellent Isabel Adjani and the always wonderful Daniel Auteiul.  The book by Alexandres Dumas is definitely worth reading.  funny, I don't recall the music. 

However, there is an opera about the massacre of the Hugenots: Les Huguenots (or Gli Ugonotti in Italian).  It's a wonderful work; can't vouch for accuracy since historical operas are no closer to the truth than Hollywood's version of history.

I love the music in Anne of the Thousand Days. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 21, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
madupont--I have never tried Scottish dancing but know enough to appreciate that it is very different than English Country, which is more slow and elegant and can be very challenging in terms of the intricacy of the patterns for the movments of dancers in a group.

"Conservative  Jewish rabbi "-- if you find a non-Jewish rabbi please introduce me to him or her!! Just teasing a bit.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 21, 2007, 04:40:12 PM
Well, you see  how it is, things always become more convoluted if you are trying not to say, "Conservative lady rabbi", because it sounds merely Republican or something. At least, in that neighbourhood.

"English Country, which is more slow and elegant and can be very challenging in terms of the intricacy of the patterns for the movements of dancers in a group."   Slow and elegant, I will agree -- in terms of the music and the choreography itself, I can't identify the example that I wish to give here, because I think it may be the Helen Mirren version of Elizabeth I, the Queen, rather than Blanchett, and I recall being quite impressed with the dance sequences. It was also an intricate pattern for the group but whether it was a little extra something that she put into the acting on those lifts, slow and elegant was anything but staid.  Of course, I could be entirely wrong about the identity of the film? It could have been something made by the BBC for PBS about another facet ot Tudor history? It had a particularly obnoxioux young actor, rather a Ben Affeck on a bad day who had poisoned his wife bit by bit so that he could marry Elizabeth and thus become "King", so that she had to have him beheaded anyway for the presumption alone of seducing her out of her authority.

In fact, this may be one of the plots to which Lulu referred, as some of her preferred reading in English history.




Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 21, 2007, 04:51:26 PM
English Country Dance and Contra Dance are supposed to be flirtatious in spirit...lots of eye contact and smiles. English Country has been in a lot of films, esp. those based on Jane Austin novels. Not sure if contra dance has been.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 21, 2007, 05:08:06 PM
Lulu, have to warn you, I recently went to see Daniel Auteuil in, The Valet, because the reviews had made it sound like a mystery. False advertisements, it is a very bad comedy.  It has some good funny moments but it begins to run out of steam as the producers misuse both Auteuil and Kristin Scott Thomas in what used to be called "a French Bedroom Farce", so that these guys making the film could introduce a new talent. A taller, smarter version of what Bardo had been but with well-developed thighs.  Producers do this now and then, show-case "talent" so they can raise money to keep giving her movies to make her a star. I recognized that I had seen  a remarkable shot of her, probably in the nytimes.com  that had made my jaw drop, when I saw that shot again in sequence in the midst of the film.  Poor Auteuil, they are doing to him what was done to Giancarlo Giannini(the great star of Lina Wertmuller's films).

Your post reminded me that there is a book that was done about Queen Margot's neighbourhood that I'd been meaning to read and must look up in hopes that I can still find it.

My favourite actor in Queen Margot is Jean-Hugues Anglade as Louis. Vincent Perez is maybe a third.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 21, 2007, 07:27:46 PM
Correction:

I was wrong about, "LOUIS" !
Charles IX (Jean-Hugues Anglade), the King of France,

"Mr. Chereau, a noted director of theater and opera,..."

Music:

"...the very young Margot, a raven-haired vision described by Dumas as a French national treasure. She preens with all due magnificence, even when, during one of the film's most deliciously ludicrous moments, she roams the streets of Paris wearing a ball gown and a tiny eye mask, trying to pass incognito while searching for a lover. The man she finds, the Comte Joseph-Hyacinthe Boniface de Lerac de la Mole (Vincent Perez), is presented as so noble a figure that  'religious music sanctifies each Margot-La Mole love scene'. "

music by Goran Bregovic;  " rock star hairdos (the sons of Catherine de Medicis could pass for an aging heavy-metal band)"... "the happy family portrait is compounded by strong hints of incest, which also envelop Margot. One of the film's typically impassioned exchanges finds Margot very nearly being raped by her brothers." ...  "In this overheated atmosphere, the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre, involving the slaughter of thousands of Protestants by Catherine's minions, is actually one of the calmer episodes depicted on screen."

"  Be grateful there won't be a quiz when the film is over. "

I could not transfer the picture of the real star of--The Valet,  but here she is:
  http://movies2.nytimes.com/2007/04/20/movies/20vale.html


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 22, 2007, 03:16:53 AM
I just listened to the samples for the new Bryan Ferry album of Dylan covers and while I have read some great reviews and love Ferry I just don't get the album.None of the samples really did much for me except for"Knocking on Heaven's Door" which is really good.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 22, 2007, 03:19:00 AM
Mind you maybe I'm spoiled cause of Ferry's earlier covers of Neil Young's"Like A Hurricane" and Lennon's"Jealous Guy" which were both covered so well.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 22, 2007, 04:03:38 AM
Singers have been covering Dylan songs for years.  One of the more unusual performances was Judy Davis singing "Dark Eyes" (from Empire Burlesque) slumped in a toilet stall in Hightide.  But, it is even stranger to me for someone like Bryan Ferry to dedicate an entire album to Dylan.  It is not high on my list.


Title: Pink Martini
Post by: Dzimas on June 22, 2007, 06:21:38 AM
Really dig Pink Martini,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vf4X6WKPtk&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 22, 2007, 09:07:43 AM
Dzimas, thanks for the link. Will duly check it out. I loved Sympathetique by PM; was less thrilled with Little Tomato. I'm on the fence about whether to buy their new one or just buy some songs from iTunes.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 22, 2007, 10:33:27 AM
NP--Ted Hawkins: "All I Have to Offer You is Me."


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 22, 2007, 01:00:05 PM
Happy anniversay to me....a long 23 years.....NP:  Annie get the gun!

That is great news about the new grandchild being a girl!  Im sure you can't wait for the birth.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 22, 2007, 01:02:51 PM
Sounds like the right song for your occasion, sugarblues.... :-\

I am excited over the prospect of a grandaughter, but sadly, the son was hoping too much for a second boy. Hopefully, he will see the joy of having one of each gender.

We are finally getting some much needed rain!!   ;D


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 22, 2007, 02:00:14 PM
NP:  The famous partridge family.....I think I love you....lalalalalala


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 22, 2007, 03:00:48 PM
sugarblues: Who knows where this will end? But you hardly know me!!! ;)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 22, 2007, 03:09:53 PM
 >:( Golly...Cincinnati....its just a song!  I can't compete with the rest of you so I try to put my sense of humor in here.  I try to laugh at least several times a day. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 22, 2007, 03:17:28 PM
Is a song always just a song? Nothing beats a good sense of humor. Off I am...our annual golf outing (not that I play)...have a great weekend, sugarblues and all!!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 22, 2007, 03:30:16 PM
speaking of reggae ( a few days too late), I'm actually kind of fond of some of the recent fusions that I've heard.  Anyone catch the Willie Nelson CD a few years back?  Fun Stuff.

I just heard of another interesting one recently but can;t think of who it was off the top of my head.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 22, 2007, 03:36:27 PM
reggae - I enjoy listening to raggae.  I prefer the old stuff although my son has introduced me to alternative music that has a twist on the reggae sound. We like what we like for no other reason....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 22, 2007, 03:37:39 PM
Haven't heard the new Maroon 5 disc yet.


Got it.  Still evaluating.  there are one or two songs so far that are standout s for me.  Other than that, I'm unconvinced.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 22, 2007, 03:47:43 PM
I also need to update that after a bout a dozen or so listens to the new FOuntains of Wayne, album Traffic & Weather, I was a bit premature in their demise.

I still think they took some shortcuts on the lyrics in places (trite, contrived rhymes) , but a few of the sleepers have snuck up on me and come through as real gems.

I'm still trying to figure out why they would have used the word "gasoline" instead of "diesel" when refering to truckers just to make a rhyme in the track I-95

I've got to think there is more to it and I'm just not seeing it for whatever reason.  The rest of the song is striking me as pure genius until that line that stands out like a sore thumb...any other Fountains fans out there?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 22, 2007, 03:53:18 PM
Burnzy, one of your groups is reuniting; gonna get tickets?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19372357/



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 22, 2007, 04:02:52 PM
Tickets? Tickets, he says. I've contracted out to be the towel dude.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 22, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
I loved Bryan Ferry during the late 70s and early 80s - Roxy Music had some very cool stuff also of course -- I haven't really kept up with him much since then.

Another couple of artists that were "the talent behind the band" that I loved and haven't kept track of are:


Roger Hodson  of Supertramp - Classically trained musician that had a great initial solo album and then went dark (maybe it was me)

Midge Ure of Ultravox - another classically trained musician with a distinguished career both with Ultravox and later as a solo act.  I still get chills when I hear Kate Bush singing back up...

hmm that reminds me of "another" signer in this vein - Peter Gabriel, but he's so high profile that it's hardly worth talking about him...  :)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 22, 2007, 04:10:30 PM
Didn't know Hodgson had a solo album. Didn't follow them too much, but I really liked a couple of Supertamp's albums (crime o' da century and crisis, what crisis) and saw 'em live once in San Antone back in the early 80s. They had some special effects doodads that went well with the special effectors I inbibed back in those daze.


Title: Supertramp
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 22, 2007, 05:10:17 PM
They were probably my favorite live band of all time.

No matter what tour, nor what year, from 1975 on, you could always depend on ...Waiting in total blackness with the anticipation of that first harmonica blast from the opening of School, right through to the ending strains of the last song of the encore set... Crime of the Century while watching the projection of the hands on the jail bars slowly spin away into the abyss...
Everything in between was pure bliss...


Even though you saw them in Texas (or wherever) and in the 80s, I bet you can vaguely recall the blonde guy (can't recall his name) that played woodwinds blowing Smoke up into the white spotlight during the song Asylum.  It was all low tech stuff, but extremely dramatic and memorable...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 22, 2007, 05:16:27 PM
I don't know much about Bryan Ferry, but "More than This" is one of my favorite songs ever.  I can't hit that "good" not like he does, but I'm going to keep trying.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 22, 2007, 08:43:48 PM
That's the note in "...it was good for a while, there was no way of knowing..."

I've been trying to hit that note over and over for years, and I just can't sing the line like Bryan Ferry, even if I had very dark tint in car, etc.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 22, 2007, 08:44:43 PM
Try it and see if you don't squeak on the word "good."


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 23, 2007, 01:06:53 AM
You keep this up, you'll get to 250 very quickly!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 23, 2007, 01:12:50 AM
Try it and see if you don't squeak on the word "good."

I'll have to pull the CD out - I can't quite recall that line in the song.

Great song though    You know there's nothin...more then this


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 23, 2007, 04:40:35 PM
Actually, I listened to the song last night and he doesn't say "...good for a while..." but something else similar, for the record, same high note I can't hit anyway.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 23, 2007, 05:02:05 PM
I could fe-e-e-el at the time... there was no way of knowing.

I mighta been able to hit that note when I was thirteen.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on June 23, 2007, 05:41:33 PM
Yeah, the second stanza is "it was f-u-u-n-n for a while..."

Speaking of "Thirteen," great Big Star song.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 24, 2007, 10:45:51 PM
I hear the Spicey Gals will be doing a cover of...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQWWX3FPkaQ


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 24, 2007, 10:49:09 PM
just kidding, of course. but heard this on the radio and one google led to another...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6H1a7YUac


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 24, 2007, 11:11:44 PM
okay, one more oldie before bedtime for this bonzo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luut-sKVcxU


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on June 24, 2007, 11:14:14 PM
just kidding, of course. but heard this on the radio and one google led to another...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6H1a7YUac

I like that song -- not enough to play it 50 times over or anything, but it reminds me of my groovy childhood.  Now it sounds awfully reminiscent of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzfp6rZiFDo (sorry, couldn't find it without the intro by Mike Douglas -- another blast from the past).

There's the old story about how Eleanor came about; don't know if it's true or not, but I don't see why it can't be.  Basically, record execs were all over The Turtles (or Flo and Eddie or whoever) to write another hit like Happy Together.  The Turtles decided to write the worst, most trite, simplistically rhyming song possible, and along came Eleanor.  Which was also a pretty big hit. So much for the artistic taste of the American public. But I still sing along to it when it comes on.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 24, 2007, 11:29:29 PM
something about that era and singing. dug the turtles myself. and the grass roots. alright, g'night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCdGqed6Ajg&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 25, 2007, 03:06:10 AM
Harrie,That is pretty much a true story about Eleanor.The Turtles label was White Whale of which I have no idea if they had any other recording artists.The Turtles were also huge Beatles fans so the name might have had something to do with Eleanor Rigby.I read a story once where the first time some of the Turtles saw the Beatles for the first time in the UK they were so down cause John and someone else were doing acid when they talked to them and the Flo and the boys were innocents at THAT time.Does anyone recall the cover of The Turtles Greatest Hits Vol 1.It had the band members on the cover with these drawings of  these smaller topless women with long hair that sort of went into a paisley thing.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 25, 2007, 10:00:20 AM
Maybe it was a good thing to be tossed out of the NY Times fora.....haven't seen this much activity in quite a while.

NP--Mavis Staples's "We'll Never Turn Back" from her recent and excellent release of the same name.

Over the weeknd went to a wedding of an in-law. Full Catholic mass, no less. At the every end they played this syurpy piece of music that I swore would never end! Others had the same reaction.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 25, 2007, 10:56:33 AM
Gee... I think you're swell


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on June 25, 2007, 11:14:08 AM
And you really do me well...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 25, 2007, 11:16:07 AM
ooh-ooh that smell...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on June 25, 2007, 01:22:55 PM
ooh-ooh that smell...


Wait...how did we get to Lynard Skynard?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 25, 2007, 03:05:34 PM
trite, simplistic rhyming.

wha'? ya want haiku? it's not going over well at the creative writing thread (smile).


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on June 25, 2007, 03:44:40 PM
trite, simplistic rhyming.

wha'? ya want haiku? it's not going over well at the creative writing thread (smile).

Hey, those were the words of Flo and Eddie, not me.  And I'm staying out of that haiku thing, if you know what I mean.....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 25, 2007, 03:48:23 PM
Hey, I'm just funnin'.

And I'm staying out of that haiku thing, if you know what I mean.....

I'm trying to dance around it myself.

awww... gimme dat, gimme dat...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 26, 2007, 09:57:57 AM
NP--Huey Lewis and the News: (She's) Some Kind of Wonderful.

The bldg cafeteria is offereing a culinary treat today, frog legs. I know some people hate to eat fish. I wonder if amphibians count as fish?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 26, 2007, 11:11:13 AM
Frog legs are fine, depending on where you live.  Did they give you a clue how they are preparing them? Deep fried is sometimes best for beginners compared to fricasee. The object is to enjoy it like chicken rather than to make you chicken. Today, I am into Frog legs Marengo.

Listen, I encountered your Syren(from you-tube) while trying to find my place the other day. Nice work for motion and using the costuming to advantage for that movement. Otherwise found regularly as your studio format as I was raised on this, which is why I stay out of the sports forums. 

The only thing more exotic by half that you might enjoy even more so, and don't laugh, is Yemenite dancing on the same pattern; not necessarily approved by bin Laden, which is why I avoided the sample on the same site. 

This whole thing arose way back in the sequence where I asked what sounded like Klezmer which seldom restrains me from feeling like jumping to my feet.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 26, 2007, 11:20:24 AM
According to the menu we will be treated to: Frog Legs a la Provencal (tomato garlic and white wine broth) . I will give a full report afterward, of course. I have had frog legs from youth and love 'em, but been a while since I last enjoyed them.

I have to confess confusion about you finding my (?) syren on youtube. Could you give a bit more detail? Are you referring to English Country Dance? Sounds as though you are. As to period costumes, I often find the the dancers with the most elaborate costumes are the worst damned dancers!! Although I have confess that disliking the costume balls intensely, my actual exposure is limited. Personally, i wouldn't wear one of those silly costumes. Old grumpy-pants, here.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 26, 2007, 11:55:35 AM
cincy--man


Lulu--you are gonna make me blush.

But check this out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lXUJKZE5VjU.

As described at you tube:
"Excerpts from our Feb 2007 evening length performance of ABRAVANEL, inspired by the culture, music, history and journey of the Sephardic Jewish people. www.syrendance.org (more)"

Sounds close enough to Chicken Marengo, Napoleon asked his cook after the battle to put together something. He assumed it was chicken. Same ingredients, you mentioned. Learned to cook it early on.

I would personal recommend an Abravanel (or Abrabanel) to drink with it, as that name caught my attention to follow your recommendation, above, as I lost my place in here one day.

I lost my place again today during a technical problem this morning.

 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 26, 2007, 01:36:55 PM
madupont--sheesh that was ages ago but hope you enjoyed it. I have a lot of sephardic recommendations if you are interested.

Anyway...the froglegs were breaded and deep-fried and delicioso.

NP--ST from Songcatcher.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 26, 2007, 03:18:05 PM
Cincinnati - So glad you enjoyed your lunch.  I wouldn't concider frog legs seafood BUT still don't think I would try them! 

WOW you have all been busy.  SO many posting such little time to read them. 

Vacation bound next week looking forward to long days away at the beach. 

NP:  White Stripes


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 26, 2007, 03:25:16 PM
Sugar--based on others at my table, you are hardly alone in not liking leg of frog!!

The beach should be fun. Headed to the beach in late July..Hilton Head.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 26, 2007, 03:33:52 PM
End of July is a great time to go to the beach and enjoy the sounds of the waves.  Hope your able to get some R & R.

Im thinking crayfish pie for dinner.....wink!

NP:  Fitzgerald


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 26, 2007, 03:36:03 PM
Maine crayfish? Hmmmmm... Who wouldda thunk it?

Yes....July should be good R & R time so long as the AC is working. Good time to catch up with the grandkid!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 26, 2007, 03:41:05 PM
Watched VH1 Classics this weekend...they were playing Queen. Great concert series.  Amazing talent.

Its to darn hot for pie....thinking breakfast for dinner! 

Im sure the A/C will be working - the wonders of electricity!  Cherish those memories. 

Having a buss luncheon on Thursday .......TOY


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 26, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
Memories are so imp...but even more so when they sustain something that continues. 

Its hot as blazes here too...got some rain at last but not enough!!!

Nothing special going on this week...tonight is the weekly meeting of talk...hope I can stay mostly awake!! An I-pod with Queen and Maroon 5 would help!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 26, 2007, 03:55:28 PM
IPOD of Queen and Maroon 5.......theres a great thought/wished I would have thought it!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 26, 2007, 04:03:05 PM
IPOD of Queen and Maroon 5.......theres a great thought/wished I would have thought it!

Are you sure you didn't? This would need an I-pod built for two!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 26, 2007, 04:42:30 PM
Madu-

I feel very foolish in not recalling my own prior link to lulu on the topic of  Sephardic music and Syren.
I finally went back and looked at it again, and remember now why I got so excited! What a wonderful combo of dance and evocatie music.

About 10-15 yrs ago cincy had a modest little contemporary dance group and you could take a chance and go to their recitals for a pittance. But now contemporary dance is presented in our huge new center and it costs too much to take a chance on unknown groups and choreographers.

I also recall paying a King’s Ransom to go see Philobolus and was very,  very disappointed. I like the group on this video though, Syren.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on June 27, 2007, 02:05:30 AM
Not about music but Cincy Man where do you work that serves Frog Legs?Not your typical workplace lunch food.Provencal is a great dish if the legs aren't all mushy.Like Maud says though Fried are the best beginners way or the favorite in the South.Used to be a place in Melbourne,Fl. called Wallys? that had a drive up window for a bucket of Legs!As I recall they also served blue crab and other seafood.I know there was a band called the Trogs but can't recall one named the Frogs.Though "Joy to the World" started with the line"Jerimiah was a Bullfrog" did it not.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 27, 2007, 09:57:55 AM
The leg of frog ended up being fried vs. provincal. No complaints here.  I work at the Federal Reserve Bldg but not for the Federal reserve. The cafeteria serves the entire bldg and the chef really has some creative items on the menu.

NP--Adrienne Young--My Love Will Keep


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 27, 2007, 11:24:26 AM
Oh, my gosh, cincy-man, do you remember that book about the Fed Reserve, I need the exact title, something about  The Temple....?  I had a Princeton student from China advise me to grab it off the table at the Princeton Day School annual book sale, so I did.  Then somebody else grabbed it at my house, when I wasn't looking. Not easy, since it is HUGE. I suspect it was the landlord when he knew that I was shopping and would be out awhile; but, he's dead, so he got what was coming, like we all do, anyway.   In fact, I think, that might kind of be the topic of the book.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 27, 2007, 11:54:26 AM
I am hardly a banking expert, but generally think of the Fed as a useful and necessary institution. We are only lessees of space in the bldg.,  I do not work for the Fed in any way, shape, or form. They do impose an amazing level of security...its one of the safest places in the midwest.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 27, 2007, 02:39:44 PM
The Road to Ensenada has to be one of Lyle Lovett's best efforts.  Wonderful album!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 27, 2007, 03:00:21 PM
Another hot and humid day in NE.  NP:  Eric Clapton Unplugged.....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 27, 2007, 03:06:46 PM
Hot and humid here in the Ohio River valley also...but relief is on the way!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 27, 2007, 04:20:20 PM
Mad, I think you're talking about Secrets of the Temple by Bill Greider. The Fed in DC are my neighbors, office-wise; they have nice digs. And a tennis court. Some decent players, too. They'd hold their own in an Interest-Rate-Monitoring Tennis Invitational.


Title: hey, es-gee
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 04:44:11 PM
The Fed in DC are my neighbors, office-wise; they have nice digs.

Imagine that!

(smile)



Title: (sigh)
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 04:56:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNMhPQoEbJE


Title: DSus4 -- it's an enigma
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 05:02:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN1SveAyEIs


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 27, 2007, 05:15:17 PM
In a Beatle mood, Burnzy?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 05:23:21 PM
In a Beatle mood, Burnzy?

yeah.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 05:26:22 PM
it is okay to be in a beatles mood. ain't it?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on June 27, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
Speaking of, last night Paul and Ringo were on Larry King.  King is just awful, but I guess that's common knowledge.  At one point, LK addressed a question to Ringo, but called him George.  Up to that point, Paul and Ringo had been like "okay, he's an idiot, but let's just go with it."  We were getting pissed off, too - Ringo had arms crossed in front of him, angled himself slightly away for a text-book body language illustration pose -- so couldn't stick with it.  Just too much punishment.   


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 27, 2007, 08:11:58 PM
Mad, I think you're talking about Secrets of the Temple by Bill Greider. The Fed in DC are my neighbors, office-wise; they have nice digs. And a tennis court. Some decent players, too. They'd hold their own in an Interest-Rate-Monitoring Tennis Invitational.


Thanks!  That's it!  (I'm used to the jaws-dropping, by the way. But, my next and younger sibling eventually went to Alaska to work for Internal Revenue up there at the time oil pipeline was laid, which had everybody rushing up there to make money no matter that things were very basic as far as environmental conditions and milieu.  My jaw didn't drop; although some people's might, if they knew what kind of jobs he had done to qualify to get there.)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 08:55:33 PM
Larry King is a total doofus.

now playing: heaven can wait.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 08:55:59 PM
oh krap. wrong forum.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on June 27, 2007, 08:57:24 PM
oh krap. wrong forum.

Not necessarily, if you're referencing King's doofusness to Paul and Geor---- er, Ringo.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 09:06:52 PM
'twas the heaven can wait plug to which i was referring.

aaah, but it can wait its own self. still in a bit o' beatles mood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8UOHpMGG0Y


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 27, 2007, 10:36:56 PM
Burnzy, it’s always ok to be in a Beatles mood. And a Kinks mood, for that matter. Starland Vocal Band moods – they’re ok on February 29.

Madupont, glad to be o’ service; that was one of those books I remember from back in the day. Never read it, but always wanted to….

And I’m reluctant to defend Larry King (actually, I’m less so since I’d like to see him get better ratings against the Hannity show on FOX), and maybe I’m interpreting that ‘George’ vs. ‘Ringo’ incident incorrectly, but this is my take: he asked Paul and Ringo about how they found out about John’s death. Now, this was a really odd question because it came out of nowhere and it was being asked during a sort of celebratory event, the one-year anniversary of LOVE. But Paul responded, and then Larry said,”George”. I interpreted this as him having wanted to find out from Paul about how he found out about George’s death, not that he was calling Ringo ‘George’. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s how I saw it. Regardless, I really hope LOVE goes on tour; I would love to see it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 10:53:29 PM
Yeah, but Larry King is still a doofus (smile).


Title: more than this
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 11:18:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfgU4iQr8PU



Title: so much more
Post by: chauncey.g on June 27, 2007, 11:18:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJnrMm8jFcQ


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 28, 2007, 01:23:47 AM
The Beatles Love-in is really something.  Too bad John and George couldn't be around to enjoy it.  Can only imagine the royalties the ex-Beatles and their spouses get these days, with all the re-issues, tributes and compilations like Love


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 28, 2007, 01:25:35 AM
BTW, the new Traveling Wilburys box set is really fun to listen to and watch,

http://www.amazon.com/Traveling-Wilburys-CD-DVD/dp/B000P0J024/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-1948969-6965627?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1183008282&sr=8-1

Listening to Lovett's Road to Ensenada reminds me a little of Tom Petty at times.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 28, 2007, 09:31:33 AM
Listening to Lovett's Road to Ensenada reminds me a little of Tom Petty at times.

Road to Ensenada -> Tom Petty?

Sorry Dzimas; that's your third mistake. Three strikes, right across the plate.

Kidding.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 28, 2007, 09:41:46 AM
NP--Mediaeval Baebes: Come My Sweet
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SfbCADJMas0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 28, 2007, 09:44:10 AM
Curious what my first two mistakes were, or if they were all contained within the same line?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on June 28, 2007, 10:36:08 AM
Curious what my first two mistakes were, or if they were all contained within the same line?

Eh, I'd have to go back and review your posts, but I enjoy your writings so that might be difficult.

Just to clarify, you know I'm quoting from Her First Mistake on Ensenada, right?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 28, 2007, 12:04:22 PM
I don't know dzimas, perhaps it's our generation but then again you have other  connections to enjoying Lyle Lovett's music.  He reminds me of a Frenchman in the Cajun country who caught sand fleas/chiggers and had to make his living playing New Orleans bars and who will always be disappointed in love.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 28, 2007, 12:19:03 PM
"Uncle Larry" King is a doofus.  I hadn't watched him in many years until he made the connection to get the interview with "the Sean Bell widow", that's when I learned how doofus one can get.

Does anybody know where the term originated? Marlon Brando never got it quite right, as Wally Cox, who used to play Mr. Peepers ,used to tell it, on his room-mate in the Village. Brando always used to refer to "Dufo".  Which I think is kind of the equivalent of what  dzimas and whiskeypriest call a "duppa" or how do you spell that? One of you used it just recently.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 28, 2007, 03:38:55 PM
Grobin, Hey Eugene is the best song on the album.  Doesn't quite carry the same weight as Sympathique, if weight is the right word, but it is fun to listen to.  Love their titles, especially "Dosvedanya mio bambino."


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 29, 2007, 10:11:48 AM
NP--Maria Muldauer, "Separation Blues" (from her new disc, "Naughty, Bawdy, and Blue").


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 29, 2007, 01:15:08 PM
NP:  Paul  "Times of our lives"


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 29, 2007, 01:45:19 PM
Let us hope that the best times are now!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 29, 2007, 01:53:15 PM
NP:  Paul  "Times of our lives"

Van Dyk?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 29, 2007, 02:04:04 PM
Paul Anka....This was the song that my Father and I danced to at my wedding...23 years ago! 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 29, 2007, 02:06:25 PM
Google don't respect Paul Anka. (smile)



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 29, 2007, 02:11:29 PM
So very True.....Darn google!

How have you been Chauncy?  You seem very busy posting.  Thelma says hi.  She continues to drive with no destination...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 29, 2007, 02:19:11 PM
hey, sugar. yeah, posting too much. say hey to thelma. 'course, we may be on opposite ends of that destination free ride and headed for a collision.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 29, 2007, 02:29:18 PM
hmmmm....given the possible choice of some destinations, driving with none ain't all bad!!!

Paul Anka...a valued name from the past. Puts me in mind of the estimable Bobby Darin!!  Among so many of his great numbers, this one remains my fave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEIDep_UMmk


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 29, 2007, 02:29:58 PM
The way Thelma drives I would agree with headed for a collison. The President has arrived.  Gosh what a mess...traffic jams, frustrated people  and protestors.....are we having fun yet!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 29, 2007, 02:32:15 PM
Great Link...Bobby D....loved it...a true classic


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 29, 2007, 02:40:15 PM
Hoping you would love it.

Here is John Renbourn singing "The Snows that Melt the Soonest"...hmmmm....that is hardly descriptive of the snows of Maine!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlFxLDQwxLk


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 29, 2007, 02:50:36 PM
snows that melt reminded me of rain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGjH_ezivQ


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 29, 2007, 02:53:56 PM
Great links.  RIP Harry


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on June 29, 2007, 02:56:15 PM
What will the traffic be like once Putin arrives?  Will Cheney be there? Hopefully without his shooting iron!!

One more link--song by Mike Oldfield of Tubular Bells fame (gotta get past the intro in Deutsch first,though):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCTX1T9xJoU&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on June 29, 2007, 03:01:44 PM
Not sure the VP will be in town.  Its the security thats the problems...so many places you cant go to because of them.  This is a huge weekend for the beach areas.  People wont go to kennebunkport because of the hassle to get thru.....Brother had to move his lobster traps for the week.  Whats a gal to do!  TOY

Intersting you tube...the intro was tough to get thru...JK


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on June 29, 2007, 03:05:00 PM
cool. all i knew about oldfield was tubular bells. wore out two vinyls of that one.


Title: chillin' out
Post by: chauncey.g on June 30, 2007, 12:52:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwSZM1QT1yU


Title: Gomez
Post by: chauncey.g on June 30, 2007, 01:40:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-K1j7wzr_c


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on July 01, 2007, 01:05:21 AM
Kurt Cobain's alleged suicide:  "Homicide," "Clinical Depression augmented by heroin addiction," or "the ultimate punk 'fuck you'"?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on July 01, 2007, 01:17:49 AM
The Beatles "Elanor Rigby" focuse attention on people that no one cares about, specifically, one collecting rice where a wedding has been, but, I don't care how old you are, that doesn't happen.  Despite the fact that "here's where the strings come in...," Elanor Rigby, is el rig, a joke, right, a monument to meloncholia to see whether there was any end to cheap human manipulation.  On the other hand I was touched by the song.  Whether or not a priest would really "darn" his socks all by himself is kind of stupid, but if you believe there is a lonely woman collecting rice, sure, but the chorus of "where do they all come from, where do they all belong..." seems ultimately like a displaced generational hurry to the grave for all the poor people not part of the genial collective, and naturally dispatched by society by notions of "old maidenism" or "priesthood."

I guess the idea was that the priest should have been shaking it all night long just like AC/DC, or at least Elanor Rigby could have had "Double Vision" instead of wandering around and shit, I mean she could have copped a ticket to an AC/DC concert, that's my point.  Rice you leave to the Chinese.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 02, 2007, 11:21:23 AM
NP--one of my "guilty pleasures": Gwen Stefani's Wind It Up.

Heading home soon...playing nurse for wife who had an emergency appendectomy yesterday!

Sugar...hope you endured your traffic. Is it interfering with beach time?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 03, 2007, 04:07:37 AM
I have to admit that Christina Aguilera's Candyman video turned my head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WAT8oSvdVI&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 03, 2007, 11:05:28 AM
Irresistably good video and song...too bad that the entire disc is not up to this standard.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 03, 2007, 11:42:50 AM
I have always loved the poignance of this song: One Is the Lonliest Number. One of many versions:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYnBsx91f28&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on July 03, 2007, 10:21:14 PM
Jbottle, I think you’re a little ungenerous with what is an extremely elegant song. It’s quite possible that Rigby was a cleaner at the church, which would explain why she was picking up rice after a wedding. The next verse mentions the loneliness that a priest may be experiencing and the final verse nicely connects the two threads. “Wearing a face that she keeps in a jar by the door” is haunting; I always thought of that line as referring to a face’s distortions when one looks at it through a glass jar, but some Beatle fans think it refers to Rigby’s makeup jar that she would use to make herself look nice for some suitor who never comes.

Maybe today the lyrics might seem a bit clichéd, but remember, Macca wrote this over forty years ago; I submit that in 1966 these kinds of lyrics were pretty unique.

I disagree with your assertion that the two characters had alternatives like listening to AC/DC or having ‘Double Vision’. I don’t know what McCartney was thinking, but my guess is that it was a poignant look at the lonely, not an early motivational seminar to get the mentally dispossessed up and at’em.

Toss in the fact that it was written by a 24 year-old who was possibly the most popular person in the world, and could have been writing about more vapid things, and his perspicacity becomes even more apparent. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 03, 2007, 11:23:53 PM
Hooray, for sgrobin.  I agree but didn't have a lot of time to waste today.

The custom of throwing rice at the bride and groom was a fertility wish that they have lots of offspring (based no doubt on the notion that they were a good looking pair of humans).  I suspect that Eleanor was neither a cleaner or trying to get pregnant(from the other lyrics, that seems a distant possibility)but she may have been so poor and with so little to spend on herself and on entertainment that she went to weddings to dream(we are often told how sentimental British women are compared to us brash Americans; I  would submit that it is more likely just the opposite. However, it sounds like Eleanor (who reminds me of Eleanor Brun, the British actress who was I think in Richard Lester movies as well as Dudley Moore and Peter what's-is-name  films, and with whom the fab four were probably acquainted) was aspiring, you might say. She might pick up the rice by finding a Vicar's bulletin to sweep some of it into her handkerchief and tuck it in her purse to keep as a "memento".

It is quite an emotionally upsetting lyric with that rising and falling see-saw that is almost a string quartet  supporting it while the human voice delivers the rising accent like a plaintiff cry and then the falling away like a heavy sigh, almost like an affected German art-song if only for a soprano female voice; but for male voice it is a form of spoof on both the art-song delivery and the string quartet bowing away. It makes fun of high culture while pitying Eleanor Rigby who is just one of many (what are the population statistics for then, and now?), so that it strikes a place more bathos than pathos. Now, that is an English sentiment.

I don't think the boys were RC; or, was McCartney?  Father so-and-so is very likely an Anglican churchman of a very ordinary sort.


Title: Re: chillin' out
Post by: madupont on July 03, 2007, 11:51:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwSZM1QT1yU


I don't know if cincy--man would agree but to me this is every bit and more urgent to dancing than Western forms. The comment about it being early blues...it is not but it is closer to Rag. Is a peddle being used as well to keep time somewhere below the cloth around the pumpkin size calabash?
The guitarist, you notice, "rocks".

My son had a girlfriend named Mali but I never found out how she was given that name.

Maybe you ought to take this over to the Movies since they have been talking African film and jbottle is trying to think up one that he owes himself for starters. The music might put him in the mood. This music when heard in this country was "country" even beyond the South, where farm people went "juking" that is riding around, stopping off to dance and listen to the music and to drink, and then drive around to the next place if they could find it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 04, 2007, 01:23:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLFQjTvW-cI&mode=related&search=

This has a "blue" in a slowed sequence of not very facile trilled clusters
that seems like a  improvised, modified blues for an out of tune piano in Chicago; by jorgebonafe


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 04, 2007, 01:57:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhW1IIe5du4&mode=related&search=

Somewhere about at 4 minutes play time, the end-piece is true Blues. Quite a bit of solemnity among the participants. Then at  one point, he throws back his head  and has one of those ecstasy moments ala B.B. King.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on July 04, 2007, 02:07:58 AM
Grob:  Point well taken, can't really bother with the maudlin effusiveness, I generally agree, but I've been thinking about whether to part company with things that don't stand on their own as being what they are supposed to be.  I hear something like ER and it sounds tinny in my ear right now, like it didn't used to, maybe I have a cynicism that has developed for some sort or external stimuli, or maybe I'm just an asshole.  It's a filler song done by master songwriters, sort of like "Fixing a Hole," great song, but filler if it's not on SPLHCB, etc.  No, I'm definitely not picking the fight with the Beatles, I can't win that, I was just in a particular state of particularity, so, no prob, explicate to your heart's content, I still think it's a silly song partially, I understand, because I can't give myself over to the sentimentality of it, I just don't care about imaginary people that much, especially after 9/11.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 04, 2007, 02:49:01 AM
Maybe most of you know of this site but bottles post brought to mind a link an old friend Ayohn posted in the old NYTimes Meander forum many years ago about misheard lyrics. http://www.kissthisguy.com/


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on July 04, 2007, 12:33:45 PM
Maybe most of you know of this site but bottles post brought to mind a link an old friend Ayohn posted in the old NYTimes Meander forum many years ago about misheard lyrics. http://www.kissthisguy.com/

There's also www.amiright.com -- lots of misheard lyrics, and of course their correct counterparts. 

I always thought of Eleanor Rigby's face in a jar by the door in a slightly different way. Not as literal as being a jar of makeup, but that she has the face with which she meets the public -- that is, the nothing-wrong-no-I'm- not-horribly-depressed face that a lot of people use.  Like when someone says "Hi, how are you?"  And you reply "Fine. And you?"  when you're really thinking "Well, my hair looks goofy today, I'm 50 pounds overweight, I have a splitting headache and I think I'm going to throw up."  Of course, the "fine" answer is also the more polite way to go as well.

So, maybe people don't realize how miserable Ms. Rigby is because she puts on that brave face (that she keeps in a jar by the door).   Wonder if McCartney has a thing about that, with his other song "My Brave Face."


Title: Re: chillin' out
Post by: tjaxon on July 04, 2007, 01:27:05 PM

My son had a girlfriend named Mali but I never found out how she was given that name.



Some say the blues originated in Mali. Markus James spends a lot of time there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD8f95tUHSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tB-20M-kHk


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 04, 2007, 03:09:57 PM
bosox18d, 

First to acknowledge the social-niceties, say Hi! to ayohn3 who gave me so much help at Nat Sec, one of our other pals has returned recently  which ,if ayohn was here ,would make it a threesome but then, if we knew  where Luz was, we'd have a fourth for whatever games the posters think they know how to play. Naturally it is all words without music.

Our fiercest opponents from those days have remained behind in the UK venues,preferring to go down in flames with Tony Blair (in whom, they believed).

That said, without belittling the funnin' aspects of Jimi Hendrix (who was one walking-social-commentary) having a good time putting on the so "far out" there audience, he did have a more soulful poetic side that appreciated the command,Kiss the Sky, and thus he died. If not for the demonstrative osculation and the frills on his clothes, which simply indicate he grew up in the day, influenced by little Richard Penniman, should he have come dressed like Huey Newton. Too risky: Everybody plays the Fool.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 04, 2007, 04:04:14 PM
tjaxon, re: markus james

Whomever shot this provides good compositional sense (the first link is a better production than the second link which tried for drama that was too much of a stretch, nice thought about water in the desert and meant to be a moment in time slice of life vignette) while I'm listening to the music out of the corner of my ear, I'm recognizing the patterns as those similarly seen in the opening of The Constant Gardener where you see the endless crisscrossing of humanity across the focus of the camera which then reveals this is ongoing in the entire depth of the camera range
but,
by the time that we get the dancing chorus all in green doing the butterfly, you realize where you've seen this before.  Or, I have, all my life, on every playground and sidewalk of any ghetto in the US, that dance in time as the skip-rope double-dutches the butterfly. In other words one does not have to go to Africa to become experienced, as Jimi Hendrix asked, if you are experienced, nor to source the music. I would suggest it is even downright dangerous to do so in  a culture where your patterned West African cultural garment occasionally gives way to your religious vestments for formal occasions of musical performance.

Meanwhile, I pick up that the film editor is splicing in Minghella's desert shots of shifting patterns in the sand from The English Patient. All this before we get to the white man in the frame whom I immediately realize is standing in, while sitting in with Mali, for Paul Simon discovering Ladysmith Mombasa (unless that is Dobie Gillis on camera).

Of course, Zulus do sing differently than French West Africans who sing in patois; one group being sometimes ex-warriors, while the other know they are griots. I nevertheless saw comments posted in the Babouraka ("kar kar") Touare performances that read in Ndebele; showing that the music was appreciated further southeast.

I think though that if you  have a real ear for this music, go look up the film that I recommended to Dzimas from  Bertolucci, known as Beseiged, or just, Seige, in English with David Thewlis and Zimbabwean Thandie Newton learning to appreciate each other's feel for music originally foreign to them. There is  likewise footage of the authentic Griot wandering musician and holy man that still exists in Africa from sea to shining sea.

As a matter of fact, one just flew by me right now and took the thought right out of my head but I'll probably remember later what it was I saw in the Markus James tapes that the griot did not want me to see.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 05, 2007, 03:18:22 AM
Maud,I no longer have a valid email for Ayohn.Another old poster Whitney is in touch but she is computerless for a few months.


Title: Music of Mali
Post by: Dzimas on July 05, 2007, 03:36:17 AM
There's so much to draw from when it comes to African music, that is hard to know where really to start.  I'm a big fan of Ali Farka Toure and Malian music in general.  For a completely different side of Malian music, Salif Keita offers an astonishing vocal range in his fabulous musical offerings.  There was a CD of Woman of Mali put out years ago, which was where I discovered Oumou Sangare.  I have her Worotan CD, which has a strong eastern flavor to it.  Festival in the Desert offers a mixed bag of music from the region, including Robert Plant offering his take on desert rhythms. 


Title: South African music
Post by: Dzimas on July 05, 2007, 03:52:43 AM
Paul Simon took a lot of heat for Graceland (undeserved I thought). It was a wonderful album, showcasing some of South Africa's and Zimbabwe's finest pop talents.  Miriam Makeba joined him for a concert in Harare, but it seems Harry Belafonte still holds a grudge against Simon.  I think it is more professional jealousy, and maybe even personal jealousy in the case of Makeba, than political reasons.  But, if you can find it, maddie, South African Jazz and Jive is a wonderful compilation of 1950's South African music, with Makeba appearing on it with the famous Spokes Mashiane, distributed by Stern music. Then there is Abdullah Ibrahim, one of my personal favorites.


Title: Bering Strait
Post by: Dzimas on July 05, 2007, 05:37:57 AM
An interesting Russian band that has a pension for bluegrass and other forms of Americana:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxW_Ho89c8g&mode=related&search=


Title: Bering Strait
Post by: Dzimas on July 05, 2007, 05:41:32 AM
Here they are combing Russian folk with Bluegrass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVyOt4hJlRk&mode=related&search=

interesting confluence, to say the least.  Country and bluegrass music are both very popular in Eastern Europe.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 05, 2007, 10:03:05 AM
The Mali music video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwSZM1QT1yU, totally rocks. I would not presume to say where the concept of dance originates (it likely originates from many places on parallel paths independently and then converges as cultures converge), but it is impossible to listen to this and not think of dancing and moving to it.

Markus James is a awesome musician….I know his name has come up before. He creates a sublime fusion of styles.

Bering Straight…sigh….I was fascinated by the group when they first came around a few years ago. Got their initial disc and it still has a few decent moments. Then got the second release about three months ago. I played it once….and have yet to listen to it since. A complete and total stinker.

If you want much much much better bluegrass, there are scores of  better choices.

NP : Turtle Island String Quartet: Stolen Moments


Title: Re: South African music
Post by: madupont on July 05, 2007, 01:07:11 PM
Paul Simon took a lot of heat for Graceland (undeserved I thought). It was a wonderful album, showcasing some of South Africa's and Zimbabwe's finest pop talents.  Miriam Makeba joined him for a concert in Harare, but it seems Harry Belafonte still holds a grudge against Simon.  I think it is more professional jealousy, and maybe even personal jealousy in the case of Makeba, than political reasons.  But, if you can find it, maddie, South African Jazz and Jive is a wonderful compilation of 1950's South African music, with Makeba appearing on it with the famous Spokes Mashiane, distributed by Stern music. Then there is Abdullah Ibrahim, one of my personal favorites.


I have to disagree with you here, alas.  And also ask a few questions: Why did Simon take a lot of heat for Graceland? See, pop singers of that scope were not on my radar; they were just background. You will probably understand in a minute as to why.  I was already discussing African music with the Africans.


"Miriam Makeba joined him for a concert in Harare, but it seems Harry Belafonte still holds a grudge against Simon.  I think it is more professional jealousy, and maybe even personal jealousy in the case of Makeba, than political reasons."  What professional jealousy? What personal jealousy?  In the years, it was pretty definitely political reason.

I have made a few notes to refresh my memory of what we were going through in those years, so I looked through her biographical material because I'd already heard Makeba sing and then heard her again in political discussion when she traveled with her husband on the lecture circuit and I am not speaking of Masekela but Stokely Carmichael who was a real cutie . You've got to remember Miriam Makeba and I are of the same generation. If, Belafonte had any cause to cause jealousy, Stokely would have whopped his a_zzz! But possibly you meant Makeba had personal jealousy of Paul Simon? I don't think so, here's why, or did he take a turn for the worse after that and keep singing the same old songs?

Makeba like her mother was a "sangoma"(which I was referring to earlier when speaking of the West African musicians as griot, which has several connotations to the word but, in either case , griot or sangoma, these are ritual musicians or singers who effect healing). So, rather than find it, I was already familiar in the 1950s with South African Music.  It would have been impossible to be on the American Jazz scene without knowing about it. Besides, being so, meant we were supportive of  Stokely's civil rights position and the Black Panthers. It wasn't until 1969 that I saw Panthers being locally prosecuted like Africans. Up until then Stokely was on a par with Angela Davis, for getting his propers, but speaking politically with Makeba had something to do with it whereas Angela Davis was clearly speaking out against the Vietnam war and as the A number one student of Herbert Marcuse out at Santa Barbara was resolutely anti-Fascist; so, people, mostly white intelligentsia and artists swarmed to meet her at receptions that they sponsored at places available to them so they could have a chance to speak to her one on one. She absolutely radiated an enlightened power of intellectual health you might say.

But back to Miriam. In a nutshell, big nutshell but nevertheless:"she starred in the anti-apartheid documentary Come Back, Africa in 1959. When the Italian government invited her to the premier of the film at the Venice Film Festival, she decided not to return home. Her South African passport was revoked shortly afterwards.

Makeba then travelled to London where she met Harry Belafonte, who assisted her in gaining entry to and fame in the United States.Her marriage to Trinidadian civil rights activist and Black Panthers leader Stokely Carmichael in 1968 caused controversy in the United States, and her record deals and tours were cancelled. As a result of this, the couple moved to Guinea, where they became close with President Ahmed Sékou Touré and his wife. Makeba separated from Carmichael in 1973, and continued to perform primarily in Africa, South America and Europe. After the death of her only daughter Bongi Makeba in 1985, she moved to Brussels. She also served as a Guinean delegate to the United Nations, for which she won the Dag Hammarskjöld Peace Prize in 1986. 

In 2001 she was awarded the Gold Otto Hahn Peace Medal by the United Nations Association of Germany (DGVN) in Berlin, "for outstanding services to peace and international understanding". "

I am not kidding, I actually inappropriately or not played African music back to Africans who were so resolutely colonial polite about it (unlike current Muslim adversaries who speak right up when they disagree with you about anything right from the bottom line) that I was no doubt an embarrassment to my husband.  I would not have known at that time why Paul Simon might have been criticized by Africans politically, unless you draw the parallel of how non-white American musicians have been taken to the cleaners by the producers in the music industry. Considering that Patrice Lumumba was murdered immediately thereafter, there may be a reason for mixed reactions to Paul Simon's good will (you'd have to ask Mandela about that one).

I was late getting in here yesterday, e-mailing my sister in law after our brother-in-law had phoned her long distance to talk with her about an hour and a half in regard to her health.  He just came back from his South African and Australian concert tour recently; so in fact he has been playing with African musicians,(as well as South American musicians hired) for going on just short of four decades. I  have met so many of them back-stage in passing that it would be impossible to keep them straight which is why I e-mailed to ask my Japanese-American s-i-l if she had heard these you-tube selections, which I told her about, because she is the party-girl who never misses a concert no matter how far she has to travel and just keeps on partying if she has to stay up all night. Being a grandmother usually makes this possible. We call these occasions,"Family reunions".




Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on July 05, 2007, 01:18:26 PM
Appropriating African talent in pop music by white people is a long-standing tradition in this country, Paul Simon was loaded beforehand, so what was the supposedly legitimate beef?  I like the album, and he probably gave money to some talented musicians and paid them for their work in the process, so, Barry Hellafonte, who really doesn't figure into pop-music in my mind the way that Paul Simon does, can go bitch at something that matters. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 05, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
cincy--man, #400

The Mali music video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwSZM1QT1yU, totally rocks. I would not presume to say where the concept of dance originates (it likely originates from many places on parallel paths independently and then converges as cultures converge), but it is impossible to listen to this and not think of dancing and moving to it.

Yo! That's what I was saying. I haven't heard music like that in years but,  you are right, dance is culturally independent and since music travels as language does, making adjustments as it crosses borders in an anthropological way, then dance catches up.  I studied dance after I had already been studying music but rather early I had to look at some of my favourite people and then listening to the music look for the alterations in how the body moved, so there is a big difference in how the African articulates compared to the Muslim idea selectively. In the greater part of Africa the two forms have had the opportunity to converge but the traditional dances are preserved through continual use and you have only to listen to the music to know what to do, which is why I listed to chauncy.g that Femi Kuti of Senegal making an appearance on tour in the Southwest is something to write home about.  His dance chorus behind his vocalization have to be seen to be believed; on the other hand, when you turn the camera around and see the expressions on the faces of the audience, they are absolutely hypnotized.  It is hard to draw the line between the musician and the political activist when you observe Femi Kuti. Music is politics in Africa.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 05, 2007, 01:37:21 PM
Appropriating African talent in pop music by white people is a long-standing tradition in this country, Paul Simon was loaded beforehand, so what was the supposedly legitimate beef?  I like the album, and he probably gave money to some talented musicians and paid them for their work in the process, so, Barry Hellafonte, who really doesn't figure into pop-music in my mind the way that Paul Simon does, can go bitch at something that matters. 


I just said it, it is hard to draw the line between considering that Belafonte was a political activist and organizer before Paul Simon played a note of music or got to record anything. He gave work, Harry that is, to large groups of vocalists and musicians, mighty white of him because they in most cases were --right here in the States and then took them on tour overseas. Simon, I doubt has his load separated out of contract that you can assuredly swear the take is not going to the producer while he gets the publicity as Mr. Clean.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 05, 2007, 03:00:03 PM
The cultural boycott against South Africa, which I think you are referring to Maddie, did more to stifle homegrown music than it did to topple the apartheid government.  Simon mercifully broke through this silly boycott, and created a much greater awareness of South African music in the general public.  Ladysmith Black Mambazo sold millions of records thanks to their association with Paul Simon, gaining international attention in the process.  Not to say Harry didn't promote South African musicians in his day like Makeba and Masekela but he seemed to act as if he was the sole arbiter of South African music.  The success of Graceland no doubt boosted interest in such albums as the Indestructable Beat of Soweto, which became an international hit.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 05, 2007, 03:02:08 PM
Cinci, I agree that Bering Strait has yet to live up to its potential, but the talent is there and I hope that they pull something better together in their next effort.  I think they would have been better served going to Austin rather than Nashville, which is too conservative when it comes to crossover music.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 05, 2007, 03:51:46 PM
dzimas, #405

The cultural boycott against South Africa, which I think you are referring to Maddie, did more to stifle homegrown music than it did to topple the apartheid government.  Simon mercifully broke through this silly boycott, and created a much greater awareness of South African music in the general public. 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Are you saying what I think you are saying here? You are defining as "cultural boycott", by which you mean investment under apartheit?  So stifling homegrown music  is not part and parcel of apartheit per se?

 
In other words, if you don't buy a product  from a company that invests in South Africa, you  have no effect?  Then what the heck did it? Scare tactics emanating from previous liberated areas to the north?

What boycott did Simon mercifully break through which caused a greater awareness of South African music in the general public?

Obviously Harry Belafonte helped Makeba make it to the Western world to have a right to make a living for herself as an artist familiarizing the general public with why apartheit was suppressing something they otherwise  were not even aware of, the people who make the music.

Look at the sentences again. "Her South African passport was revoked."

Because she would not go back, as some kind of National Treasure? That's like saying Rudi Nureyev was a perfect example of capitalist elitism/ right wing opportunism  who didn't deserve a life as an international artist unless where and when the Soviet Union allowed him to do so.

Here's another sentence:"... in the United States, and her record deals and tours were cancelled." Are you implying that Paul Simon did her a big favor by substituting for her and bringing Zulu school singers to American television ala a really big shoe for you tonight Ed Sullivan?

(okay, so he did his part in the overall package deal and I probably should check my dates on the overall gestalt of when did the Cubans arrive in Central Africa and why did Kenyans recently kill Prince Charles good friend who lectured tourists on the history of a game reserve, or was that in Rhodesia, or further south?)

 Actually, it appears that it was Sekou Toure who supported her, by her being able to remain in Guinea as she resumed touring the rest of the world as an artist and an activist bringing attention to what was wrong; gosh, I thought we just discussed  "A Dry White Season".

I am probably missing some basic point.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 05, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
Ps, dzimas--

I will however agree with you about NASHVILLE. my brother thought the music there was deplorable when  that was precisely what he went there about, no doubt expecting it have retained the music he loved in the past. Today would have been his birthday but he died there going on two years ago. It was that conservative.                   


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 05, 2007, 04:06:33 PM
There is a big difference between economic sanctions and a cultural boycott.  If it served certain artists' moral conscience not to travel to South Africa during the Apartheid regime then so be it, but to call for a cultural boycott whereby all artists were supposed to stay away from South Africa in an effort to isolate the country culturally, I could not accept.   Many South African artists had good reason to flee the country, but many others stayed and were essentially cut off from the outside world as a result of this boycott.  Simon reopened that door, and it helped to further break down apartheid, not prop it up as persons like Belafonte feared.  As I said, we probably never would have gotten a chance to hear LBM if it wasn't for the Graceland album.  Mahlatini and the Mahotella Queens and many other South African artists indirectly benefited from the success of that album.  I think the Graceland album also renewed interest in Makeba and Masekela.  Paul Simon did a good thing.  The album drew more attention to the plilght caused by apartheid, albeit in its last days, and in its small way contributed to its final breakdown.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 05, 2007, 05:21:14 PM
dzimas--I surely agree that immersion in the Austin scene would be an improvment for Bering, but I keep thinking why bother? I don't mean to sound chauvenistic, but even with improvement, what can they offer to us in the way of bluegrass that any number homegrown bluegrass groups do not give us already? I think they are primarily a  novelty act.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on July 05, 2007, 09:44:18 PM
anybody seen this and care to comment?

http://www.beforethemusicdies.com/


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 05, 2007, 10:14:11 PM
dzimas,  re:#409

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbaqanga  I think there was a big gap here between the 1950s and1986, for Simon to take the credit.  Which apparently should have gone to: West Nkosi
 
"Producers at the record company[Gallo] included West Nkosi, who was an influential and intimidating figure at the company from 1964 until his death in 1997...
 
Rupert Bopape, enticed by the successful Gallo Record Company to be their African production manager, brought together the musicians of the Makgona Tsohle Band with Mahlathini and a new female chorus, the Mahotella Queens. This was when mbaqanga really took off - or more specifically, the group's mbaqanga sub-style, mgqashiyo. In addition to Mahlathini and the Mahotella Queens, singing stars such as Miriam Makeba, Dolly Rathebe and Letta Mbulu created a large base of fans, as did The Dark City Sisters and the Soul Brothers. Other mbaqanga musicians included Simon Baba Mokoena [3] and West Nkosi, ..."
 
 
 
 
 
"By the middle of the 1950s, the evolving indigenous South African music exploded [this is listed under FORMATION in the above article (link)]Mbaqanga's popularity faded during the 1970s due to the influence of Western pop, soul and disco into South Africa. However, it was revived between 1983 and 1986. The reversal of fortunes was in part due to Paul Simon's incorporation of South African music into his Graceland album (1986) and...
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graceland_%28album%29
"Coming at a time when Simon's musical career was at something of a low ebb following the disappointing public response of Hearts and Bones, the project was originally inspired by Simon's repeated listening to a cassette of the Boyoyo Boys instrumental "Gumboots", given to him by a friend. He later wrote lyrics to sing over a re-recording of the song, which became the fourth track on the album.

Much of the album was recorded in South Africa and featured many South African musicians and groups. Simon faced accusations that he had broken the cultural boycott imposed by the rest of the world against the apartheid regime in South Africa. This view was not supported by the United Nations Anti-Apartheid Committee, as the album showcased the talents of the black South African musicians while offering no support to the South African government. The worldwide success of the album introduced some of the musicians, especially the vocal group Ladysmith Black Mambazo, to global audiences of their own.

Simon toured the album extensively, featuring many of the artists from the album plus exiled South Africans Hugh Masekela and Miriam Makeba. A concert in Harare, Zimbabwe was filmed for release as "The African Concert"."

Simon included American 'roots' influences with tracks featuring Zydeco and Tex-Mex musicians. The Everly Brothers sing harmony on the title track. Linda Ronstadt appears on the track "Under African Skies", the second verse of which Simon wrote based on her childhood experiences. The group Los Lobos appear on the last track, "All Around The World or The Myth Of Fingerprints." Simon stole the song from Los Lobos according to Steve Berlin,   giving them no songwriting credit.[1]    A popular music video starring Simon and Chevy Chase was made for the hit song "You Can Call Me Al".



 



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 05, 2007, 10:26:49 PM
Ps.   I just wonder what was going through the minds of the U.N.'s South-African committee at the time. Javier Pérez de Cuéllar was Secretary-General that year. (well, actually he was for ten years, but I refer to the year of the album release, as he was in office while the music was recorded and after)

Glad I went to that sight, from curiosity, as by doing so I discovered one more nasty -- that the UN Peace Keepers committed an atrocity of their  own in Haiti between 2005-2006, killing women and their children, when going after  Aristide supporters(?).  You have the Tonton Macoutes on the one hand and the UN Peace Keeping Force on the other.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on July 06, 2007, 01:53:34 AM
Wow, I've never seen such mouth cases, do you guys have itchy leg disease, too?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 06, 2007, 02:31:31 AM
In Bluegrass specifically, I don't think Bering Strait has much new to offer, but I think they do bring a Russian folk attitude to the music, which is different and when artfully blended has resulted in some interesting new music.  I see them going more the alt country route, which is why I think Austin would be more conducive.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 06, 2007, 02:32:39 AM
I know this is all uncharted territory for you, bottle.  Rest easy, we won't dwell on it too long.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 06, 2007, 03:54:40 AM
There is a nice 4 disc set on Bluegrass from a few years ago"Can't you hear me callin'-Bluegas:80 yearsof American Music.While there are songs and groups I think were left out it is a pretty good collection.Some folks complain about some of the new songs on the collection especially by The Byrds who one clown in a review said never did a Bluegrass Album which may be true but in their last two studio albums Byrdmaniax and Farther Along they did some great Bluegrass songs though both albums were more of the Country slant along with Sweetheart of the Rodeo.It would have been nice to see some Emmylou on this collection but can't have it all.The other great collections of Country/Bluegrass are the Will the Circle be Unbroken especially the 1st and 2nd ones.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 06, 2007, 04:08:06 AM
Smithsonian folkways also provides an extensive collection of early bluegrass.  I have a couple recordings in this series.

Maddie, Gallo has been the heart and soul of the South African music industry.  Drum magazine was the voice through the turbulent apartheid years.  A great documentary, if you can get a hold of it, is "Have You Seen Drum, Recently?"

http://home.worldonline.co.za/~afribeat/film/haveyouseen.html

As it relates the music to the social and political unrest of the era, with some wonderful vintage footage.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 06, 2007, 10:54:24 AM
Maud,I no longer have a valid email for Ayohn.Another old poster Whitney is in touch but she is computerless for a few months.


Doesn't that just drive you crazy?  I and my sister-in-law have a mutual friend of many years. My sister-in-law is computerless after many years of taking them for granted on the job; while suddenly the mutual friend who usually sends a long letter at Xmas time each year to fill you in on her family,now changes her e-mail address and, after this many years of becoming used to the computer, I hate to use the regular mail to wait for an answer about anything!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on July 06, 2007, 11:49:29 AM
I’m enjoying this discussion. When I first started getting into ‘world music’ I thought that the prominence of African music was a sort of politically correct ethos (I was pretty conservative back then) but it quickly dawned on me that the African continent is a goldmine of incredible and diverse music. And Mali in particular; I’m listening to a Tinerawen (sp) concert in my car these days and they are spectacular – but just merely one of the latest in a long line of terrific Malian singers and groups.

That idea – of white artists appropriating, borrowing, incorporating whatever you want to call it, black or African music is obviously a sensitive one. There’s a story about Fela Kuti confronting Paul McCartney when the latter was recording Band on the Run in Nigeria; it was only when he heard the music that he was mollified that Macca wasn’t stealing the local ideas.

Like Dzimas wrote, Paul Simon introduced a lot of people to LBM and other African musicians. Obviously, their contributions made Graceland a spectacular album, but musically it seems to me to have been a very strong album musically anyway. The shame (and I’m being admittedly a little naïve), is that the music that Simon introduced didn’t become more mainstream. Again, thank God for Internet radio.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on July 06, 2007, 12:11:01 PM
Again, thank God for Internet radio.

At least for now.  Have there been any developments on the July 15 drop-dead date?  I haven't heard of any.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 06, 2007, 12:53:12 PM
Grobin, I'm surprised African music didn't do better America either, but then you can't exactly sing along to the music, especially with someone like Fela Kuti.  The strength of African music has been its profound influence on American music over the years, which Paul Simon acknowledged in Graceland.

An even better example is Peter Gabriel, who not only works with African and Asian musicians, but produces their records through his Real World label.  It has been a huge boon for third world musicians like Thomas Mapfumo (Zimbabwe) and Sevara Nazarkhan (Uzbekistan) who probably wouldn't have seen the light of day otherwise.  Although Mapfumo appeared on Shanachie (another great world music label) before his association with Gabriel.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 06, 2007, 02:35:21 PM
http://worldmusiccentral.org/artists/artist_page.php?id=1067

This picture was obviously taken when he was much younger. The article is more factually honest about what is at stake.  Again it was a particular generation, the divisions which had been caused by colonialism made us feel that Pan-Africanism was the very logical answer; you didn't have to participate unwillingly in the ideological conflicts of European conflicts of interest ,which of course are nowadays US/European conflicts of interest, plus additional Asian conflicts divided between their interests in European vs US  conflicts of Interest, much less Middle-Eastern, considering that Muslim connections had been previously becalmed by centuries of integration, until now.

The concert that I previously referred to as taking place, was it in Boulder,Colorado(?), is a tour by Fela Kuti's son, Femi Kuti.

To see a a Fela Kuti  performance as taped  at the Shrine is to catch on as to what this is really about. For starters, he was Yoruba. I had a friend back in Greenwich Village from Sugar Hill who used to follow a benighted Jack Kerouac around on his visits to the Five Spot,on the Bowery, that was because they both went to Columbia where Kerouac was on the football team. While life went on for me, with numerous Africans from different regions for whom housing was found while they studied in the US, by about the time I was sending my son off to junior-high in a new non-urban environment which was the real education, at the point in time when Kerouac died and the guys all went to Lowell for the funeral, my friend went to Africa and got made a chief.  The nytimes.com covered this a few years ago after he had been back for quite awhile in the same old big house on Sugar Hill which he'd inherited from his parents and where he'd open his art gallery of sculpture, heavy on the Yoruba .                 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 06, 2007, 02:41:41 PM
Ps. dzimas,

You dance along. That's where the political power of Fela Kuti was generated. Physical involvement, physically experienced, is the key of transmission to a higher level of political thought, within Africa anyway.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 06, 2007, 02:47:29 PM
I have explored a bit of the African flavor of world music, but still a rank amatuer in that regard.

But I cannot let the topic of world music be mentioned and not make mention of my favorite genre: Nordic.
http://www.amazon.com/Evocative-Nordic-Music/lm/R3QWVLMHERZGI3/ref=cm_lm_byauthor_title_full/102-1836052-2131349


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 06, 2007, 03:25:13 PM
Maddie, don't get patronistic now.  I saw Fela once and he puts on a great show.  He wore his political conscience on his sleeve.  All power to him, but I liked what Manu Dibango had to say on the matter.  It is all about the music!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on July 06, 2007, 04:01:58 PM
Hi Dzimas,

I guess given the pathetic state of American radio I shouldn’t expect anything, but I would have thought that some of the AAA (Adult Album Alternative I think)-formatted stations would have dipped their toes in the water a little more. LBM is quite accessible; offhand, I can think of songs from the Ali Farka Toure/Ry Cooder collaboration that would be worthy of being on the radio, and some others by, say, Baaba Maal and others. And sometimes they do get on the radio, but it seems only on certain types of radio shows.

Interesting that you would mention Peter Gabriel and his influence. I was never a fan of his music, until I heard Passion (the soundtrack to the Last Temptation of Christ). That got me into world music; I then bought Passion Sources ( an accompaniment of songs by contributors to Passion), then started buying from the Real World catalog. Some of the stuff isn’t all that great, but others are. I have that Sevara Nazerkhan album, which I enjoy, as well as a bunch of others (I love Iarla O’Lionard’s albums especially…)

I still get a kick out of Charlie Gillett’s occasional rants about Vanity Fair’s ‘world music’ edition a few years ago. Sting was the lead story and groups like Orchestra Baobab were farther back, as was Peter Gabriel. Sting’s prominence is what drives Gillett nuts. I guess everybody likes to pick on Sting; a few months ago Paul Weller famously and classlessly spit on a picture of Sting backstage at some venue. I love Weller and don’t care for Sting, but it wasn’t the Modfather’s shining moment.

Jacobs, what do you think of Icelandic music? If you're interested, David Byrne's radio program for this month is devoted to that country's tunes. Just go to davidbyrne.com and click on 'radio'. If not interested, well, no worries.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 06, 2007, 06:28:43 PM
NP--Huey Lewis and the News: (She's) Some Kind of Wonderful.


I saw Huey Lewis in a small club in S.F., before their first record deal -- when they were known as Huey Lewis and American Express.  Obviously the attorneys didn't think that one was going to fly...

They were the warm-up band for either Greg Kihn or Dwight Twilley (can't remember which show it was now).   I recall they had a lot of energy and it was fun, after the first Album was released, reminiscing...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 06, 2007, 06:34:05 PM
I don't know dzimas, perhaps it's our generation but then again you have other  connections to enjoying Lyle Lovett's music.  He reminds me of a Frenchman in the Cajun country who caught sand fleas/chiggers and had to make his living playing New Orleans bars and who will always be disappointed in love.

You just gotta Love Lyle -- dontcha?

I've been giving this a lot of thought...and after much reflection...can you make mine a ....



Cheeeeese burger...



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 06, 2007, 06:36:34 PM
Kurt Cobain's alleged suicide:  "Homicide," "Clinical Depression augmented by heroin addiction," or "the ultimate punk 'fuck you'"?

People think they are going to live forever and/or are exempt from the rules of the game.  If you play with fire there is a chance you will get burned...

Jim Morrison... Jimi Hendrix...  on and on...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 06, 2007, 06:39:40 PM
I have to admit that Christina Aguilera's Candyman video turned my head:


It's funny that not too long ago, I used to think  Christina Aguilera was kind of a low life and Brittany Spears had it all together...how the worm turns...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 06, 2007, 06:41:53 PM
I have always loved the poignance of this song: One Is the Lonliest Number.

Only one version...Three Dog Night...they had it


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 06, 2007, 06:45:31 PM

Of course, Zulus do sing differently than French West Africans who sing in patois; one group being sometimes ex-warriors, while the other know they are griots. I nevertheless saw comments posted in the Babouraka ("kar kar") Touare performances that read in Ndebele; showing that the music was appreciated further southeast.



Holy Crap Mad...  What have you been drinking lately???

I knew you were smart and all that...but come on...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 06, 2007, 06:46:47 PM
I don't know dzimas, perhaps it's our generation but then again you have other  connections to enjoying Lyle Lovett's music.  He reminds me of a Frenchman in the Cajun country who caught sand fleas/chiggers and had to make his living playing New Orleans bars and who will always be disappointed in love.

You just gotta Love Lyle -- dontcha?

I've been giving this a lot of thought...and after much reflection...can you make mine a ....



Cheeeeese burger...





Exactly.     But, please, no Jax, on the side.  Maybe a Remy Martin for dessert.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 06, 2007, 06:51:49 PM

Exactly.     But, please, no Jax, on the side.  Maybe a Remy Martin for dessert.

:)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 06, 2007, 06:55:39 PM
Where do you think that Paul Simon's choral group LSM got their stomp? Works on the street. Which is why I said, Kar-Kar "rocks"when he plays the particular performance that was linked to this forum.  This is not what is currently how most people mean it  when they are excited about hearing something in particular.  It was a style of music, better known as, rock me baby rock me all night long. So there was no way it could have been described as "blues" musically.  In classical music, that would be known as a "mode",  so let's just say that Kar-kar was in "the mode", stylistically.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 07, 2007, 12:57:08 AM
This is the version of Missa Luba that I have:

http://www.amazon.com/Missa-Luba-African-Guido-Haazen/dp/B00000412X/ref=sr_1_3/002-1948969-6965627?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1183784108&sr=1-3

Interesting that the music appeared on the movie If.... (1968).


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 07, 2007, 01:42:38 AM
Miriam Makeba and Hugh Masakela were the first African performers I heard, but the first album I wore out was "Missa Luba" by Les Troubadours du Roi Badouin.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missa_Luba

A few years ago I found a new version of it for a C'mas present for a friend who loves choral singing. 2nd confession: when clerk in Virgin Megastore was having trouble finding it, I asked "How could you miss a Luba?"

Relax, no 3rd confession to come...

I'm glad you were brave enough to bring that up. For a moment there, I considered it yesterday and then said, nah, if they don't know what it sounds like, why bother. But, apparently, it made the rounds.  I have an awful feeling this is Religious Night.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 07, 2007, 01:54:38 AM
Let's see, now. Bible down, steamy parts for Harrie. African Black Mass, Roman Catholic  version for the second act. No. maybe we do the parts Harrie wants to investigate as the prelude, not an ouverture, but why not  ouvert but tone down the overture aspects.  What comes after Missa Luba? Something for the third act, please.

I have to run check out the Montreaux....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 07, 2007, 01:55:57 AM
Grobin, the Ry Cooder/Ali Farka Toure album, Talking Timbuktu, is one of the most successful crossover albums I've heard.  They really draw off each other, and having Clarence Gatemouth Brown join in was a masterstroke.  Some of the songs are truly haunting.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 07, 2007, 04:47:59 AM
As I remember, the Gumboot dance eminated from the mines of South Africa.  There was some vintage footage of gumboot dances on "Have You Seen Drum, Recently?" I also recall Simon referencing the gumboot dances as his introduction to South African music and dance.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 07, 2007, 02:04:36 PM
Hmmmm.... You know that' the thing that's been bothering me. Before the areas' indigenous residents were forced to go to the mines to survive,they didn't wear gumboots. 

For the life of me, I've been trying to call up this picture to my mind--of how this used to look on television!  Just so I could get a handle on this and I kept getting this bunch of large, mesomorph to endomorphic body types of: men behaving like choir boys for choir director you know who because somehow they's all  been very well trained to conform whether or not they actually went to some kind of school administrated by he "Dutch" which seems unlikely. What happened to them afterwards, after television and tours and what not. I am now curious. Back to the mines?  Investments in the proper utilitarian things?

Why they would do that thing while working the mines (and which kind of mines did we have in mind here? Just so I get the context of the economics on that). Before the Boers and the Voortrekkers, those gumbooters used to raise one foot over ther head and then bring it down stomp; or, maybe I should have said because of? Anyway many of these pages are now going missing on schedules of deletion, so the battle of Verkop didn't even show up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Frontier_Wars


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 07, 2007, 02:16:59 PM
Meanwhile, not to patronisticate:

http://www.montreuxjazz.com/videos/video_player_fr.aspx


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 07, 2007, 04:47:57 PM
Maddie, my guess is that the dance was a way to pass the time after work, not some special way of mining for gold and diamonds, although maybe they put some of the diamonds on the soles of their feet, and the gumboots were a way to disguise their precious jewels.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 07, 2007, 04:52:35 PM
Short history of gumboot dancing,

http://www.gumbootsworldtour.com/english/history.html

example of gumboot dancing,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg3NlQPWbu4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 07, 2007, 05:41:40 PM
dzimas re:#455 abd #456

Wah?

By the examples given in the second post, it does indeed look like passing the time after work  but this little slap and shuffle known as buck dancing is not what I was referring to and I'm beginning to see why the substitution of one thing for another.

Many times, in competing to see who could out do each other in buck and wing, --around the house, usually in the kitchen, we clapped our thighs red, and that after-effect came as quite a surprise to the male who thought of incorporating this into some bit of shtick he was going to do, but I'd had years of rough work on the studio floor in modern dance so that I didn't bruise easily. Considering the athletic record of the male in question that might seem surprising. Then there was getting the knack of playing the spoons which is neat if you can get the hang of it ,accompanying some elder on the washboard. These are just New Orleanian traditions.

But, nope, as I described previously, the stomping is a very elegant dance, done pretty much in imitation of how ostriches  display and fight for territory, that was adapted to be done in ranks just to get their blood up for pretty much the same purposes.

Something tells me, I will have to submit myself to the great noise and presence of Forest Whitaker to find anything even vaguely similar(for film purposes possibly as production value) but it is kind of unlikely with modern military uniforms in reviewing the troops. Besides it is regionally rather much apart.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 07, 2007, 05:42:54 PM
OOps, wrong numbers relative to posts.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 08, 2007, 12:34:57 AM
As usual, we were thinking of different things.  But, the dance can be much more elaborate.  There weren't that many examples available through Youtube.  As much as I enjoy these little tussles, I'm letting this one go at this point.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 09, 2007, 11:51:13 AM
Hot hot weekend in Cincy. I envy anyone living near a beach!!! 

NP: Hot Town Summer in the City [stoplights and all]:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AoGUuqF4jm0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 10, 2007, 07:45:28 AM
I wouldn't mind being on the beach right now.  It's been pretty gloomy in Vilnius the last few days. Lively up myself with a little Bob Marley,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2C-3iXZPLE


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 10, 2007, 10:19:45 AM
More great summer-oriented music from Alan Jackson...not high art but lots of fun!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qy7eWTaAjfA


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 10, 2007, 11:02:22 AM
The Alan Jackson song put me in the mood for more fun and toe-tapping country. Hence Trace Atkings singing Honytonk Badonkadonk.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=epdmJwH-IdU&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 10, 2007, 12:11:27 PM
The Alan Jackson song put me in the mood for more fun and toe-tapping country. Hence Trace Atkings singing Honytonk Badonkadonk.

Interesting song....does make you want to get up and dance

Back from vacation...always drama around....daughter went to ER and SON crashed/totalled car.....enough is enough!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 10, 2007, 02:06:31 PM
Hey Sugar: WB!!!

Waaaaayyyy too much drama on your end.  More than the emergency appendectomy here in Cincy last Sunday.

And the daughter is trying to give up smoking starting last night...she has warned us that the bitch seeds are gonna be bad the next few days. Perfect as we plan a ten-hour ride tomorrow to N. Va. to celebrate the 1st b-day of young Julius.  ::)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 10, 2007, 02:16:20 PM
appendectomy for who?  Good luck with the bitch seed....sure know that one...it grows and keeps growing!

Wow already a year old....congrats.  Is it vaca time for you?

I think my life is a horror show!  Stay tuned on the chill network


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 10, 2007, 02:45:19 PM
Appendectomy for the missus...sheesh!!

This is a mini vacation...week in Hilton Head for entire family planned the last full week in July...hoping the bitch seeds are much diminished by then. There is a great song by Saffire--Uppity Blues Women that mentions bitch seeds!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 10, 2007, 02:50:59 PM
Your plate is full.  Have a great weekend...enjoy the family

Daughter purchased a cd for me....interesting the dutchess......



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 10, 2007, 02:57:34 PM
The dutchess?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 10, 2007, 03:09:03 PM
Fergie...the dutchess.....I think she thought I should be the queen for the day!

First meeting as chair tomorrow night...gavel in hand!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 10, 2007, 03:17:10 PM
Ohhhhhhhhh..........

Sheesh.

Can you take the gavel home and give it a good work-out?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 10, 2007, 03:21:50 PM
Your to funny!  I will try to give that gavel a work out tomorrow night and let you know.

Did you ever watch the army wives?  Im not sure what channel its on..but a great show.

TOY


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 10, 2007, 03:30:54 PM
Haven't seen army wives. Not even aware. Just leave the Marine wives alone, though!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 10, 2007, 06:36:05 PM
Oops!  Its not army wives but military wives.....If you have a moment try to catch it....or maybe its a chick flick....who knows


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 12, 2007, 06:33:40 AM
I never saw Fergie as anything more than a muse for The Black-Eyed Peas.  I preferred the Fugees, but The Black-Eyed Peas have had their moments.  Fergie has been less than stellar in her solo outing, a pale cousin to Gwen Stefani.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 12, 2007, 08:28:03 AM
I never saw Fergie as anything more than a muse for The Black-Eyed Peas.  I preferred the Fugees, but The Black-Eyed Peas have had their moments.  Fergie has been less than stellar in her solo outing, a pale cousin to Gwen Stefani.

Point well made.  I enjoy the Black-eyed peas and thought that Fergie would do well on her own.  I do enjoy a couple songs on her cd but for the most part the CD is less then great.  Can I be the pale cousin to Gwen?  What great family holidays we would have!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 12, 2007, 08:56:51 AM
Speaking of musical chameleons,

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tcRiXOONqf0

He seems to have taken European radio by storm.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 12, 2007, 09:33:43 AM
interesting song.....thanks for the link.....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 12, 2007, 10:50:12 AM
Mika is one of the new wave of sensitive guys...  Did that whole thing start with Black  15 years or so ago?  probably not but that's who I always think of...

Mika's pretty popular down here too.  They had him on the local Indy station down here that I listen to a few weeks ago.  I like a lot of his stuff, but a lot of it is really contrived and he seems to be in love with his falsetto and uses it way too much for my taste.  His recorded music is better than his live performances on the radio by a long shot...  though that's not uncommon--it was very pronounced in his case...

Check out Grace Kelly   This is an example of where is falsetto really does work pretty well.   And when he sings so I try a little Freddy I don't see how you can not find the resemblance to Freddy Mercury pretty astounding.  He's a talented guy...no doubt


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on July 12, 2007, 11:18:26 AM
Speaking of musical chameleons,

Speaking of speaking of musical chameleons, I was listening to the Chameleons' comeback album the other day and it was quite good. They were an under-rated British group from the eighties, but they broke up around 1987. They reunited in 2000, releasing a disc of acoustic versions of old songs, and then followed up a year later with a disc called Why Call It Anything. Atrocious album cover, but the music is great. They then broke up again, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on July 12, 2007, 11:18:56 AM
I’m traveling overseas next week, and have been looking for some fresh stuff to put on my iPod before the trip. I found these and thought that I would let you guys know about it.

WFMU is a really odd station in NJ that features playlists from the bizarre to the beautiful. FMU makes some of its shows available in podcast form; the link is here: http://wfmu.org/podcast  I downloaded Do or DIY With People Like Us, which featured everything from Chinese pop to The Electric Light Orchestra, and Downtown Soulville with Mr. Fine Wine, which notwithstanding its Blaxploitation-sounding title, is a great hour of soul music. I don’t know how they get away with it; I thought that the RIAA went after podcasts with music, but it’s great for us. There are other podcasts at the link I posted, but those are the only two I tried out so far.

UVM’s radio station plays all sorts of eclectic stuff, and you can download entire shows. So far I downloaded a few reggae shows, a world music show, and a couple of eclectic/indie shows. And it was no problem putting them on my iPod. Here’s the link to the downloadable shows: http://www.uvm.edu/~wruv/?action=archives


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 12, 2007, 11:30:15 AM
Mika's Grace Kelly


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uzA0nG_PurQ&mode=related&search=

should have posted it earlier


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 13, 2007, 12:32:52 AM
Mika is very popular in our office.  The interns went to see him in Stockholm.  You are right about that falsetto voice, trojan.  I thought he was interesting in the way he harks back to Freddie Mercury on a few of the songs but that was about it for me.

The Chameleons slipped under my radar screen, grobin.  I was amused to see that Spinal Tap reunited for one of the live earth concerts.  I had to explain to my daughter who they were.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 13, 2007, 03:48:30 AM
It is interesting how some pop musicians make successful crossing of the Atlantic and others don't.  Robbie Williams is still huge in Europe, but fell flat in America, even with the cute video he did with Nicole Kidman that was supposed to ease the transition.  Mika is quickly achieving the same European superstar status.  Not that I'm into any of this music, but with three youngsters in the house, MTV is on most of the day. 

Rap had no problem making the transition to Europe, and the rest of the world for that matter.  My son is all into Hip Hop, adopting many of the same affectations, in an Ali G sort of way.  I've been turning him onto some of the early Rap artists like Run DMC, Beastie Boys and Public Enemy, but found myself pleasantly surprised by some of the vibes of Cypress Hill, which pick up on a lot of interesting Mexican strains in their music.  Seems to be his favorite band at the moment.  I can't say I was ever a big Rap fan, but made an effort to appreciate this music.  The stuff today, however, is so blatantly narcissistic that I can't stand to listen to much of it.

My oldest daughter has branched out quite a bit.  As a result, I am forever hunting down my CD's as she is constantly sampling them.   


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 13, 2007, 04:02:17 AM
I saw Robbie Williams here several years ago with two friends in the record industry and I still can't figure out why he is such an attraction .He wasn't bad but he came off backstage as such a self important blowhard that I was turned off.He seems to think he is some kind of visionary instead of just another rock/pop singer.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 13, 2007, 04:12:22 AM
One of my favorite Brit Dance/Pop acts is The Pet Shop Boys.They have a style that is only theirs and put together some great albums.Not serious music but really good at what they do.My friend happened to be the art director for the early albums here on EMI and I spent a night with him/them on a photo shoot on Santa Monica Pier.One guy asked Neil Tennant if he listened to Al Stewart and Tennant did not like the comparison at all.The question came up many times here in the states.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 13, 2007, 06:08:33 AM
I didn't know you were so well acquainted with the music biz, bosox.  The Pet Shop Boys were recently in Vilnius, but alas I never was a very big fan of them.  More an English Beat fan with that funky mix of reggae and pop chords at the time.  It is interesting to see these 80s acts now the elder statesmen of Techno-music, or House music as they call it today.  I much prefer groups like De Phazz and Pink Martini with their throwback style to the 50s and early 60s.  De Phazz will be in Vilnius this fall,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY1ehv6-NJ4

I share your sentiments in regard to Robbie Williams.  The guy sells out shows in Europe though, which means a big ego comes with it.  Kind of like the Beckham of the Euro-pop music world.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 13, 2007, 01:37:22 PM
I saw Robbie Williams here several years ago with two friends in the record industry and I still can't figure out why he is such an attraction .He wasn't bad but he came off backstage as such a self important blowhard that I was turned off.He seems to think he is some kind of visionary instead of just another rock/pop singer.

A lot of folks are saying the same thing about John Mayer now...

Personally, I think he's got the chops...but he's turning a LOT of people off with his attitude...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 13, 2007, 01:39:18 PM
You are right about that falsetto voice, trojan. 

I forget which movie it was..I believe Amadeus, where they talk about a "greedy, showoff songbird"

This is the line I thought of when I was listening to him continuing to move up the scale over and over again...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 14, 2007, 02:51:00 AM
Dzimas,As far as the Music Biz It has been a while since I had ins from my buddies.My friend from EMI was art director there went to NY when the label moved from L.A.and then jumped to RCA where he was VP of creative but sick of the hours so went Freelance which means lots of golf and a gig sometimes.He is golf buddies with George Thorogood's manager and has done his artwork of late.I had dinner w/my buddy and the manager several years ago and during dinner talk it turned out this guy was Jimmy Webbs manager also so I got him to send me an autographed copy of El Mirage one of my fave albums of all time.When he was with EMI out here in the mid 80's early 90's I got to go to a lot of shows and shoots so it was fun.My friend at Capitol who took me to the Robbie Thompson show is out of the Bizz now.The Thompson thing would have been 1999.But through the EMI friend I got to meet a lot of folks some really nice and some real jerks.The after show parties backstage were always interesting.One of the best memories was taking a Bass player out from the Wailers/Ziggy Marley Melody Makers tour out w/ my friend for his first ever Sushi.He loved it and the next two times in town we all went out for sushi again.I also will never forget the very large "joints" some of the boys from Burning Spear were smoking at the after show party at the Greek in L.A. when they opened for The Wailers and Ziggy but that was  back in the mid-80's.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 14, 2007, 03:21:10 AM
P.S. The best show I saw for free was a band called Black 47 out of NYC that EMI had play a small Irish bar called Molly Malones on Fairfax in L.A..The first album was killer a mix of Irish music/Clash/Reggae.The smallest show I saw was when they signed Robert Palmer though I saw him w/Power Station before that.Power Station was a strange venue for Palmer but at his debut show for EMI folks and friends in a hotel ballroom he did a great version of the Isleys"Harvest for the World" followed by "Simply Irresistible" then launched into a strange versionof Jermaine Jacksons?"Tell me I'm not Dreaming" I notice tonight that all the old EMI stuff seems to be showing up as Capitol but back in the mid 80's EMI was a seperate label and EMI was moved to NYC so they would have an East coast label.I think both labels were British owned back then.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 14, 2007, 02:49:01 PM
bosox18d

"very large" comes with the package. I had a former friend who decided to locate to Jamaica  for her sculpture work (which was actually sponsored, from something out of the UN, oh, right, scratch that, it was to produce interesting pieces to decor up lobbies of embassies so it was not UN); however, her parents were of the generation that introduced her to the all the famous oldies of their jazz world (and she was before my time).   She kept trying to encourage me to come and relocate too. I doubt that she is still even in a "retirement home" somewhere.

Just the same this took place in an era early Seventies  when as I've recounted elsewhere (re: films, no doubt)there was no lack of a constant flow from most parts of the world unless we hit a "dought",remember those days, and "they" were right, we substantially moved on to the next available commodity and learned about the after-effects as well as the different perceptive imagination experienced.  Another words, for some things that go Up nicely,the depressions were inconveniencing and you just had to sit them out.  I think that's when "everybody" started meditating,as that seemed very therapeutic for isolating individuals from spreading gloom and the doom that you were supposed to save them from themselves.

Jamaicans did not seem to fall into that  trap in the wigosphere. Another friend from S.F. was perpetually called home with the enticement of another yet more interesting trip of the tourist kind,underwritten by her mother who was also a friend of mine but,upon hitting Jamaica, the younger of the pair inevitably was stepping into alleys as an after effect of being how many days out of San Francisco?

But this says nothing about the music.  Sometime before the mid-Seventies, I was appalled to discover that some of my acquaintances from small-towns, who collected every last single lyric of people like Dylan(which is fine with me)or, the Beatles, and seemed to be into music, had discovered reggae.  This was when I discovered that they did not understand a word of what the singers were saying!

At least, my friend who stepped into alleys, had no problem understanding the language. Oh, right, why it came gradually in a normal progression, my husband had a business arrangement and friend from there who neither looked like or modulated like Harry Belafonte, and whatever they were up to I didn't want to know about.  The friend eventually mellowed into strictly legal by doing personal income tax filing for classical musicians, to be sure they deducted all their business expenses permitted. It was remunerative for him but he made a lousy boss as far as I was concerned. Jamaicans, who appear to be really very laid back, are actually over-achievers that will work excessive hours for the rewards.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 15, 2007, 04:01:27 PM
Trojan, t was probably Farinelli. 

Sounds like an impressive array of connections, bosox.  Always liked Thoroughgood.  He put on a good show the one time I saw him in Gainesville.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 16, 2007, 05:26:52 AM
Was listening to Michelle Shocked over the weekend.  Haven't kept up with her since Arkansas Traveler and I noticed in amazon that I missed quite a lot.  I was sampling her Threesome boxed set and finally settled on Got No Stings.  I guess I like the more playful side of her, as she tends to wear her politics a little too much on her sleeve for my taste.  I thought she was at her best on songs like Prodigal Daughter, where she very subtly brings out the issue of abortion.  I also noted that she has her own record label and has artfully repackaged her earlier CD's like Short Sharp Shocked, which I couldn't resist, hoping to find an extended version of Anchored Down in Anchorage which I once heard in concert. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Donotremove on July 16, 2007, 06:56:52 AM
Maddy, what about the drought protection of something set by in the freezer?  The trouble with it was leaving for a real drought and not depleting it before the drought really came.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 16, 2007, 09:59:01 AM
dzmas--I too prize the work of Michelle Shoked, early, middle and late. She is a prime example of a quality artist overlooked by the pop music machine. If you want to find a plethora of good artists you have to seek them out and not wait for them to be dropped into your lap. Hopefully that is why we are all here.

The trip to celebrate the 1st b-day was wonderful. What a profound relaxation and joy it was just to sit and watch him do his various antics...walking prodigiously and reacting in all ways to us and his environment with every form of expression other that express words.

My son is an amazing man in many ways but musical tastes is not one of them. Very pedestrian...would rate him a 4. My daughter, although 8 yrs. his jr. branches out more and more open ot other sounds. I would rate her a 6 and growing.

NP--Mozart piano Conc. No. 15--Pinnock and original instruments.

Lulu--while in N. Va. over the weekend I noticed that The Duhks are playing in Alexandria very soon. If you have the time and money I highly recommend catching them live.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 16, 2007, 10:41:12 AM
Great fun seeing a toddler taking his first steps in the new world.  I was enjoying my brother-in-law's 8-month-old this weekend.

Long Journey Home caught my eye,

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000IFRQ86/ref=ord_cart_shr/105-5791205-4542015?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 16, 2007, 11:47:52 AM
Dizmas:

The Junkies are a worthy group indeed. My only cavil is that there are long stretches of slow languid songs. They are each great but breaking it up more might be welcome.

Have you ever listened to Freakwater?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 16, 2007, 04:44:05 PM
donotremove re:#486  Is this the storage area you had in mind? Tell you what, you need a book that I've got and will check into for you as to table of time periods for keeping these things available. Are you using the standard section of your ordinary appliance,or a separate appliance and if so upright or top-opening ? so that you can figure out where things are. I will leave a message  either in the      ordinary  "Matters" or the original collection but  I might even go direct to Messages with the latest news that is nobody's business anyway when they won't bother to go through the work involved. Not trying to scare you in the least as I assume you've got experience. Considering how electricity goes out...but,you know the drill.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on July 16, 2007, 07:14:57 PM
Funny, I just heard the radio promo for "I now pronounce you Harry & David"  or whatever the names are...  (the new one with Adam Sandler and Kevin James)   and the theme music in the background was Mika's  Grace Kelly   ...not sure what they're getting at there.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 17, 2007, 01:03:04 AM
No, Cincy, I haven't heard of Freakwater, but the samples on amazon sound interesting.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 17, 2007, 04:48:50 AM
Nice website with some great music,

http://louismhlanga.calabashmusic.com/

check out Louis Mhlanga.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: elportenito on July 17, 2007, 06:15:12 AM
have you heard that song that goes: doom dip dah..dumbah taaah shif badee badoo?. Is great if you happen to hear it try to get it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 17, 2007, 07:57:23 AM
If I do, I will say I heard it here first.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 17, 2007, 10:07:53 AM
Sitting here munching on a blueberry muffin (hoping they are Maine blueberries!) and enjoyin a fine song but a group that I heard for the first time today on xmradio: Jed & Kelley singing:"Just Like April". Check 'em out  http://www.myspace.com/jedandkelley


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 17, 2007, 01:44:10 PM
Thanks, Dzimas re:#493 for offering this up:
http://calabashmusic.com/world/publisher/flashPlayer/action/view?playerAction=loadAlbum&albumID=84736

I'm listening to the Toureg. By about the fourth band,you hear the blues of the American South; although previously you hear the typical women (in the background, where else?) in their peculiar ululation,which lets you know you are in "Arab country" or rather where the Arab traders have passed by.  Maybe if we try hard enough, instead of leaving it all up to Sting as a promoter, we can still work something out in this country to amalgamate the music and the people who originated this music;because I'm so sick of that guy who keeps  mewling on about how so many immigrant Muslims live close to both sides of the border where he happens to live, or some such. It has gotten so that I can hardly stand to read him!(in the late night "columns" or,  immigration scroll and screed).


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on July 17, 2007, 02:05:45 PM
Dzimas,

That was not to say that I didn't appreciate Louis Mhlanga (who is about four years older than my son; so, I can figure out where I heard some of those bands on the sampler.  Starting with the second, that tempo is very familiar....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 18, 2007, 09:50:52 AM
NP--The Judds: Had A Dream (For the Heart). The Judds really had some magic.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 18, 2007, 12:40:58 PM
NP:  Heuy Lewis and the News.....on repeat


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 18, 2007, 03:18:47 PM
Great idea s-blues....just found some Lewis of my own and happily listening!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 19, 2007, 12:11:04 AM
Did you know Huey's mother was one of the original Dead-Heads?He grew up following the band around.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 19, 2007, 09:51:08 AM
Who knew?

NP: Mose Allison: "Blueberry Hill"


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 20, 2007, 12:24:14 AM
Was listening to Paul Pena in the car yesterday on a long drive.  The CD, New Train, they released after the success of the Tuva documentary is wonderful,

http://www.amazon.com/New-Train-Paul-Pena/dp/B00004Y6R1/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-1948969-6965627?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1184905357&sr=1-1

and really showcased what an incredible talent he was.  There is a chameleon like quality to some of the songs, picking up on Hendrix and Grateful Dead motifs, but otherwise it is straight rhythm and blues.  The story of how he came to Tuvan throat singing is one of the most remarkable stories I ever heard.  Thank goodness for the Friends of Richard Feynman, helping Paul realize that beautiful dream.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 20, 2007, 08:58:51 AM
Starting the end of the week with good humor....Hey Ricky!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iwld8BZCo_Q

I too was entranced with the Pena movie on Tuvan throat singing.  I found one of his albums after thatn (I think it preceded the movie), but didn't take to it well. Is the new one more in a blues style?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 20, 2007, 09:57:09 AM
Humor is a wonderful way to end the week.  Great YOU TUBE.  Favorite Lucy moment....Lucy in the chocolate factory...

NP:  Show tunes


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 20, 2007, 10:04:28 AM
Lucy in the chocolate factory or Lucy stomping grapes. She was simply incomparable. Do we have anyone aroudn today even remotely comparable? 

NP : Benny Goodman, Swing Swing Swing.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mJ4dpNal_k


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 21, 2007, 02:51:06 AM
Tuvan throat singing takes some getting used to, but I like Yat Kha,

http://www.amazon.com/Aldyn-Dashka-Yat-Kha/dp/B0009UCF68/ref=sr_1_8/002-1948969-6965627?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185000518&sr=8-8

and I think you will enjoy this clip,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVyyhHFKI8E
 
with Kongar-ol Ondar, who served as Paul Pena's guide in Tuva.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 21, 2007, 02:56:16 AM
I first heard Tuvan throat singing on Kronos Quartet's Early Music,

http://www.amazon.com/Early-Music-Lachrymae-Antiquae-Jack/dp/B000005J4S/ref=sr_1_21/002-1948969-6965627?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185000892&sr=1-21


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 21, 2007, 03:15:19 AM
I don't know why but whenever I hear about Tuvan throat singing all I can think of is D-Day in"Animal House" after he rides his cycle up the stairs.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 21, 2007, 06:36:17 AM
I suppose you can call that throat singing, bosox.  More percussive though.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on July 22, 2007, 03:58:03 AM
I was going through some tapes tonight and found an old Bob Marley Rarities tape I got from the L.A. PBS station years ago in a pledge drive.It has a version of  White Christmas by Marley,Tosh and Bunny Wailer that is sort of amusing.Several years ago I read somewhere about the song.It never registered first of all that Irving Berlin a Jew wrote the song.Berlin also did not like Christmas because his infant son had died on Boxing Day.But the thing I never knew after listening to the Phil Spector/Darlene Love version for years which I love and that verse Darlene sort of talks in the song about"The Sun is shining,The grass is green,The orange and palm trees sway etc etc is an actual verse.I think it came early in the song meaning Berlin meant the song to be tongue in cheek about Hollywood but when so the story goes he heard the Crosby version for"Holiday Inn" without that verse he had it removed from the song for good.So all those years I thought Spector had added words he had just restored them.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on July 23, 2007, 04:12:14 PM
The picture was way too long and jumped all over the place, but La Vie en Rose brought back Edith Piaf to the public (those who have gone to see it).

Her remarkable voice.  Even at the end when she was sick and dying, her voice was still strong.  Her "Non Regriette Rien" brought tears to my eyes and there were so many haunting, wonderful songs she made famous.  So I went home and played the best of Piaf and Piaf at L'Olympia in 1962.

Her life deserves a full-scale miniseries since no movie could even begin to do justice to her life and her art.

It's unfortunate that FM today has no room for classic singers like Garland, and Piaf, and Aznavour and Sinatra and Morgana King and Dianne Reeves, etc. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on July 24, 2007, 05:16:00 AM
I enjoyed watching Beyond the Sea the other night.  Darrin was one of my favorites from the era.  Can't say that Spacey did Darrin full justice by insisting that he sing, since it is Darrin's voice we so badly want to hear, but then I guess one can turn to one of the many collections available through amazon.  It was interesting to see that Darrin and Mercer did an album together.  A match made in heaven as they would say.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: chauncey.g on July 26, 2007, 08:41:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOsmat5ksXY


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: martinbeck3 on July 27, 2007, 06:16:02 PM
Lulu,I loved La Vie en Rose.I posted in the movie form but there was not much response,so I said to myself,"This must be the cold calvinism". Marion Cotillard is to me Edith Piaf.

Let me offer you her most wonderful song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDqQr70eUdA



 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on July 29, 2007, 05:12:21 PM
So I've got a really embarrassing question that could maybe go into TV instead of Popular Music, or better yet, could go unasked; but I'm starting here.  Don't all laugh at once, but....the Michael Buble video for Everything that's being played a lot lately has a bunch of cameo-type appearances in it.  My question is: Bono and Whoopi Goldberg - playing themselves, or are they look-alikes?  The Marilyn Monroe person -- is that/could that be Drew Barrymore?  And is that Alexis Arquette as well, as ... well, an Alexis Arquette type?

I've Googled and IMDB'd, but I haven't found a concrete answer either way. Anyone have any knowledge about the use of doubles or real people, or any idea where to go to find out?  Don't worry, I've already started beating myself for sitting through an entire Michael Buble video, so the punishment phase is being taken care of.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on July 30, 2007, 12:54:27 AM
Uh, yeah, these things have a way of working themselves out:  Like if don't knot about it and can't find out about it, then ACCESS DENIED, from movies of the early '90's, so find a way to get that done, without the whole "I guesse I'm a bitch routine," nothing personal, seriously.

If I wasn't a trust-fund baby of a very lucrative martinizing conglomorate, I guess I would sympathize, but until the five figure check quit showing up every month, that puts me in the category of wishing I had two livers instead of two kidneys.  I know the people who can get me a CHINESE LIVER. but on the theory of at least I got here, no worries so far.


If ten beers a night hardens the arteries and makes me avoit the sigboth, to me that is the price of business.

"Keep it Off My Wave" comes to mind.

"If you want to cry, go ahead and cry, if it makes you high, if it clears your eyes...," etc.

I know all this and more, so take your hat off boy when you're talking to me and be there when I FEED THE TREE.

Yours,

the bottle


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 30, 2007, 09:51:39 AM
NP--What I Did For Love from Chorus Line.

While in Hilton Head, I was very lucky to find a good local production of this remarkable play. I had seen it live twice before (and once on B-way). I have wanted very much to share the experience with my daughter and am pleased to report that she loved it!!

Nice to be back home, though.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on July 31, 2007, 10:36:00 AM
jacobs:

I've been listening to a lot of female singer/songwriters:  patty griffin (just ordered another cd); nancy griffith (I just love her); matraca berg, alison moorer, gillian welsh, etc.  Great songs and singers.  Patty Loveless coming up and the incredible KC (kasey chambers); emmylou, etc.

I just got a new notebook (it's a big one) and can now listen to music (and watch dvds).  I tuned into Woody's Children, a show I remember listening to back in late sixties and early seventies when I lived in NYC (on WQXR).  It's now on station WFUV (Fordham) and it's wonderful.  He has contemporary music and last Sunday an interview with Pete Seeger (87 years old) and singers who commemorated Seeger in song (antiwar, social songs, etc.)

It's definitely worth checking out and it has some other wonderful shows during the day which I can't listen to at work but can at home.

I was a happy camper to find an old show with a familiar voice again.  Stuff you won't hear on FM radio anymore.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 31, 2007, 12:04:08 PM
WB from vaca.

Glad to hear you were able to share with youngest child.  Thats always a warm and fussy feeling. 

Listening to Romeo and Juliet


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 31, 2007, 12:28:06 PM
Lulu--gotta love all them singers...Metracca Berg is such an overlooked treasure...Still have to check into your radio station!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 31, 2007, 12:29:14 PM
Sugar--the vacation was great but good to be back amongst those who mean so much too.

I need a pick me up...what better than Cherokee Boogie by BR5-49!! 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7edAWgO2F-Q&mode=related&search=



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on July 31, 2007, 12:34:46 PM
Great pick me up song....Think I will repeating that lively tune...all day   


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 31, 2007, 12:51:16 PM
Sugar--when you need to come back down, this number by K.D. Lang is so gorgeous and more...Trail of Broken Hearts:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=84ecanqQazk&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on July 31, 2007, 02:42:33 PM
How bout them Sox? Best record in baseball. And a cincy boy a part of it!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 01, 2007, 10:51:19 AM
NP--Gwen Stefani--Wind It Up.  http://youtube.com/watch?v=5qHtkWyNvgU

Unspeakable kitsch to some. Exuberant, high-energy fun to me. And after oversleeping I need and energy rush!!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sugarblues on August 01, 2007, 02:30:38 PM
Great Choice.....Gwen....

No time for NP......Wearing to many hats this week.  Did catch the Red Sox game last night....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 01, 2007, 03:03:19 PM
martinbeck:

Are you kidding: I have several versions of her singing Non, je ne regrette rien.  Plus M'lord; Hymn l'amour; Three Bells, Droit de amour.  Piaf is a giant, still, and my hope with the movie is that more people will discover this great artist.  Been listenign to Charles Aznavour, another great artist who wrote such wonderful songs as Yesterday, When I was Young, You've Let Yourself Go, Happy Anniversary, Reste, You've Got to Learn, etc.  He was a protege (and lover) of Piaf; Montand was another one. 



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 01, 2007, 04:02:45 PM
Sugar...its not the number of hats you wear but how good they look on you!! I am sure they all look great!  Did you see the Sox live?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 02, 2007, 02:27:43 PM
Listening to a wonderful, "early music" rendition of the story of Robin and Marion by Ens. Micrologus. Perfect love story with a happy ending!!   :D


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 03, 2007, 10:14:15 AM
NP--Kieren Kane--I'll Go On Loving You.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQ4hVntOYS4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: martinbeck3 on August 03, 2007, 05:18:16 PM
A SMALL PRESENT FOR MY BEST ENEMY AND CO-PATRIOT
MR. BOCAJUNIORS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTMQJi_wDi8&mode=related&search=

Don´t drop too many tears.

I can picture you marching goose step up and down the living-room.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: martinbeck3 on August 03, 2007, 05:31:50 PM
LULU, really Aznavour and Montand! I love She.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTMQJi_wDi8&mode=related&search=

the Elvis Costello version is not half as good.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 06, 2007, 08:41:11 AM
nytemp--get her compilation disc ( w/ newly realeased older things added): Reintarnation. She is fabulous indeed!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 06, 2007, 04:45:08 PM
I've been out of town for awhile.  Read a nice article in The Guardian on Fairport Convention on the way home on the plane,

http://music.guardian.co.uk/festivals/story/0,,2141742,00.html


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on August 06, 2007, 09:56:26 PM
Bury the will-travelers, please.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 07, 2007, 02:06:08 AM
NYT, pay no mind to bottle, I have been enjoying the Traveling Willburys box set.  My only gripe is that they could have put in a few more extras.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 07, 2007, 10:40:56 AM
Fariport the top band? All a matter of opinion or preference. I would vote for Steeleye Span or Pentangle.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 07, 2007, 11:26:07 AM
Sandy Denny spanned both bands, as I remember. Personally, I like Steeleye Span better as well.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 07, 2007, 02:30:03 PM
I just bought the Traveling Wilburys set (since I've had the Vol. 1 for years and love it).  THis is one funny album with Dylan's hilarious Tweeter and the Monkey Man), containing many references to Bruce Springsteen songs.

I cannot wait to receive the new Wilburys set.

Personally, my favorite Beatle was and still is George Harrison.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on August 07, 2007, 09:26:00 PM
"...they could have put in a few more extras..."

The only thing the songs ever had going for them were the Harrison and Orbison vocals, and the Springsteen rip was a rather unneeded and unkind cut, and what is Tom Petty doing in there, bad move since he is still trotting out the pop gem every few years. 

Other than the fear component, you might've been better served mugged of the $30, which might've trickled down toward decent music.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 08, 2007, 10:25:29 AM
Don't know Sonia...will check her out.

NP--Gillian Welch--Hell Among the Yearlings. Amazing roots artist who can also write bouncy songs such as 455 Rocket


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on August 08, 2007, 01:56:26 PM
The Half-Buried Will Travellers?  Love 'em.

No, I had the CD back in the day and just think the name is dumb, and had to make the above in poor taste joke despite the two (not really half) rather recently deceased were the standouts for me.  I heard "My Sweet Lord" on the radio and was as usual blown away by that spiritually-yearning pop gem, me, not all bad, you see, or hedging my bets so that Georgie and Orbsy put in a good word with Saint Peter or the Krishmo, whatever the case may be. 

I think "Handle Me with Care" is a decent song, but that's about all I remember other than the Springsteen parody/homage/riff/rip.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 08, 2007, 03:02:27 PM
jacobs:

We agree again:  Steeleye forever.  How can you not love Maddy?



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 08, 2007, 04:02:00 PM
Fariport the top band? All a matter of opinion or preference. I would vote for Steeleye Span or Pentangle.
 

The latter preferably but it came out in the  same zig-zag packet with Jethro Tull, yet I continued to listen to Dylan when at the typewriter--I think he was animus number One. Yet it is very true that My Sweet Lord was the Harrison top drawer, followed by officially approved puja chants, until my friend Laksmi returned from Hanunman temple and then I had to stand there at the stove memorizing mantra line by line.  There is another album not literally on the tip of my tongue from era 1969 that is not coming through as yet....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 08, 2007, 05:13:51 PM
still not coming through...

Moody Blues is still there (but then, there is Meat Loaf),Quicksilver Messenger Service.

In the Court of the Crimson King.

There was an extensive collection of albums in the house for the very good reason that, if these people were not going to war, they brought their records with them.

Outside the house were the girls who got themselves involved with Peter Townshend.

Inside the house,more likely the girls who didn't much care if Stephen Stills  told Crosby. They brought back pre-Columbian trinkets.

We were now past the age of Procul Harum. My problem was essentially I could not remember which was Phil Spector and which was Arlen Specter. To this day, I address the latter with the incorrect spelling.

I find it very difficult to think of all this as  "Progressive Rock" as it sounded  to me like neither one nor the other.
 
Now I remember what it was about girls  or the difference between inside and outside the house. Those outside did not travel; those who came inside the house were regular long-distance travelers. They no sooner came down off the Colorado Rockies than they took off for the Himalayas or the Andes.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 09, 2007, 01:17:21 PM
nytemp--ty for doing this. The man has a nice voice, but the song material didn't do much for me. The second one was more interesting than the first.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 09, 2007, 02:21:32 PM
Buffy Saint Marie:

I've been listening to her Little Wheel Spin and Spin cd and am amazed at how well this album stands the test of time.  Her My Country Tis of thy People You're Dying, which includes the title song about the mistreatment (understatement) of her people as well as wonderful traditional songs, my favorite being Poor Man's Daughter (might not be traditional but sounds it), Sir Patrick Spens (traditional), etc.  I still have her "Many a Mile" recording (not available on cd) which is also a gem.

Until it's Time for You to Go, Banks of Red Roses, one of the most chilling ballads I've ever heard, with her voice giving me goose bumps.  And then her generous "Welcome Emigrante" to those coming to this country; the hilarious Johnny Be Fair and the lovely Many a Mile.

She deserved a far greater success than she ever achieved.

Wonderful listening.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on August 09, 2007, 09:33:37 PM
cincy--that's cool. I don't know how those songs were chosen for video, can think of several others I prefer, but my tastes never seem to match what might be considered promising in terms of market success.

lulu--You're so right about her, another singer with a unique voice, and another one I was a fan of long ago and yes, some of her songs are quite chilling, like the one about the (Viet?) vet resorting to his "stroke book"" (the only song I know with such a reference),  whose "disappointing" woman is "lying down there on the floor, makes you wonder what you were fighting for."  Maybe her singing of such songs is what made, me so surprised when she turned up on Sesame Street (!) a couple of decades later. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on August 09, 2007, 11:39:23 PM
OMG, my house is about 3.5 blocks from Stern Grove--look at what free concert I missed last Sunday (true, I was busy doin' other stuff, but DANG!):

http://www.sterngrove.org/08052007.html



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 10, 2007, 11:26:22 AM
np--Katy Melua- Shy Boy. Just discovered her on youtube. Nice singer!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFBBvifJI70&NR=1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 10, 2007, 11:41:51 AM
The new Rush CD, Snakes and Arrows, is pretty damn good.  Geddy Lee's voice is as strong as ever, even if he can't quite reach those razor-sharp high notes of 30 years ago.  But, he doesn't need someone to fill in the high notes like Plant has done on occassion.  Solid playing form Peart and Lifeson, with Geddy Lee stretching out on bass on a couple of songs.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on August 10, 2007, 01:54:41 PM
Cousin made me listen to a lot of Todd Snider last night, who is alternately funny and poignant, and often both at the same time.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 11, 2007, 04:37:31 AM
I was enjoying Lyle Lovett and His Large Band.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 11, 2007, 10:35:09 AM
In a more ridiculous light, I see 50 cent has challenged Kanye West to a duel:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070811/ap_en_mu/people50_cent

Personally, I would to see the sales of both their albums fall flat and that we never heard from either one of them again.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on August 11, 2007, 12:57:41 PM
George Bush doesn't care about black people.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Donotremove on August 11, 2007, 02:59:25 PM
Lyle Lovett facinates the hell out of me.  I never get tired of looking at him.  Talk about one-of-a-kind, well, he's the benchmark for that is all I can say.  I like the way he sings, too, although I like to spread him in and around other selections--he's like John Denver in that the tunes he sets his lyrics to are same-same most of the time.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on August 11, 2007, 06:13:45 PM
Lyle Lovett is enjoyed chez nous, he & Bonnie Raitt were last concert hubs & I went to.  They had a fabulous black woman singer with 'em whose name alas, I can't recall (and shame on me) but I say thanks for the reminder to try and find out.  Thanks!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 11, 2007, 09:23:58 PM



I hate this fucking Vista.  I've lost two posts just now.j  I  guess I will have to write it on Word and paste it on here.  Anyone else have Vista out therje?

Listening to Dylan's Blood on the Tracks.  When listening to Simple Twist of Fate I think he's singing about Baez but it's his ex-wife.  I also love Lily,
Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts.  I keep trying to get a handle on it and it just slips away.  But that's Dylan. 

I’m listening to the Traveling Wilbury Collection which I just received and I love it.  The DVD is priceless watching them make the first album (Orbison died after the first one) and to see Dylan having fun singing those silly and wonderful songs.  I love Petty doing “I wrote a long letter on a short piece of paper.”  And to see the video of End of the Line with the rocking chair holding Orbison’s guitar is still poignant after all these years.

And I never heard a funnier send up of a plumb pitiful folk ballad as Nobody’s Child.  Absolutely priceless.  I love this collection.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 12, 2007, 10:18:47 AM
Lyle Lovett facinates the hell out of me.  I never get tired of looking at him.  Talk about one-of-a-kind, well, he's the benchmark for that is all I can say.  I like the way he sings, too, although I like to spread him in and around other selections--he's like John Denver in that the tunes he sets his lyrics to are same-same most of the time.

Not a bad actor either.  Not sure I can agree with John Denver comparison though.  Lovett sings in a completely different vein to my ear.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 12, 2007, 11:21:59 AM
You betcha.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Ricolo on August 12, 2007, 11:57:40 AM
Lovett has better lyrics than John Denver, more poignant, he is more of a story teller, but the quality is uneven. I watched him in The Player and he was funny, although Whoopi Goldberg stole every scene she was in.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Donotremove on August 12, 2007, 01:25:19 PM
Dzimas, there is no comparison between Lovett and Denver (to me) except for the sometimes sameness in the patterns of the melody creations.  Perhaps a bad choice by me.  I don't care for Denver myself except that my Mother in her last years was enamored of a few of his songs and liked to hear them over and over--she had had a stroke--so I'm sentimental about some of Demver's work.  Lovett, now, he does have range.  Still, there seems to me, a going over ground that has already been plowed to some of his work.  What do I know.  Nothing modern, that's for sure.  I mean I think a nice evening of muscial listening would be Keb' Mo', Paul Desmond (Take Ten), Russian male choirs, Sweet Honey From The Rock, and Randy Newman.

I better go back to lurking.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 12, 2007, 03:03:25 PM

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I don't know dzimas, perhaps it's our generation but then again you have other  connections to enjoying Lyle Lovett's music.  He reminds me of a Frenchman in the Cajun country who caught sand fleas/chiggers and had to make his living playing New Orleans bars and who will always be disappointed in love."






 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 12, 2007, 03:10:35 PM
Lovett has a great sense of humor underneath that ten-gallon hat.  Love him or leave him.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 12, 2007, 03:13:22 PM
Don't lurk, DNR.  By no means do I wish to cut you off.  I'm not totally turned off to Denver.  In fact I have one of his concert albums, and he draws deep on "Leaving on a Jet Plane," perhaps too deep. But Lovett mixes humor with pathos.  I never tire of him, like I do Denver.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 13, 2007, 09:36:17 AM
Another strong vote for Lyle Lovett.

Also have great affection for Sweet Honey and the Rock.

Keb Mo' is quite good when he truly does the blues. But when he slings swarmy songs of his own creation, he sinks like a rock. Same is true for Eric Bibb.

As for the female black singer who performed with Bonnie Rait, I will venture a wild guess that it might have been Ruth Brown? She appears with Bonnie on a numer of her cuts.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 13, 2007, 03:59:02 PM
jacobs:

I was listening to Philly last night and heard an artist that made me sit up and take notice: Abigail washburn.  Do you know anything about her?  I only heard one song but I wrote her name down to remember to seek her out on amazon.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kidcarter8 on August 13, 2007, 04:25:18 PM
Styx

Renegade!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 13, 2007, 04:37:17 PM
lULU--KNOW LOTS ABOUT HER AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY TOP RATE!!! GET EVERYTHING BY HER YOU CAN LAY YOUR HANDS ON!! SHE PLAYS WITH THE SPARROW QT. WHICH FEATURES BELA FLECK.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on August 13, 2007, 09:15:40 PM
Thanks very much for the reference, cincy, but this woman was younger than Ruth Brown (whose singing I know somewhat).  Her style and voice could also bring down the house (or outdoor arena, as the case may be).  And as for Sweet Honey In The Rock, what can I say when I've said Amen!  I almost wore out one of their tapes when my kid was younger, & my husband uses their "I'm Young & Positive" song/chant with his students, has them do it at school assemblies, etc., keeping hope alive, as it were.)

Yeah, donotremove, c'mon back, y'hear?  What could be more "to each his own" than popular music, after all, and folks in here are sharin' the pleasures, not makin' judgments, it seems to me.

Speaking of Lyle Lovett's acting, true The Player was swell, but what I cannot forget is his catfish skinning/gutting in Cookie's Fortune.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 13, 2007, 09:38:24 PM
jacobs:

I ordered my first cd (can't remember the name, though.  Should receive it shortly.  It's funny, some singers you hear one song and know you like them.  And with your boost, I can't go wrong.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 14, 2007, 02:41:28 PM
Lulu: I GUARANTEE you you will love that disc...no doubt tales of a traveling daughter. Others here can sample some of her music by searching Abigail Washburn at youtube.

ny--Now I am very curious to hear who was singing with Bonnie. I am listening to her Road Tested right now. Her Kokomo medley is so damned awesome. Speaking of Sweet Honey, Toshi Reagan has some great songs too but her albums can be unpredictable. When she is on, she is really on!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 14, 2007, 08:44:25 PM
jacobs

That's the cd.  Should receive it shortly; hopefully sooner than my cell phone.  UPS is a pain; it refuses to leave package at front desk and I'm not home to receive it so I have to go chasing after them.



















Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on August 14, 2007, 09:36:43 PM
Verily, j, pray tell what ingesteth thou and where mayst one obtaineth same?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on August 14, 2007, 11:07:43 PM
Beer.  Supermarket.

Check out the new song "Lazy Eye," Smashing Pumpkins, Velvet, Pixies, etc., so derivative in the best way.....it's basically the 18 yr. old alien baby that had been sleeping inside when the record company thought the new incarnation was ______ .  It had to suck and play itself out but you are going to see a lot of bands that sound like Sonic Youth, Smashing, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Eliot, Breeders, Pixies, etc., I mean, all the harmless Pearl Jam clutch the notebook to the chest stuff and emo is finally played out...the evolution is complete...I mean, not really, but Silver something is the first sign that it gets better from here, not that you should have noticed, but being kids who like rock should be about rock, like Velvet Underground, so, maybe.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on August 15, 2007, 12:39:33 AM
Wow.  The rap song, nothing against hip-hop or the hip-community, but the one metaphor other than the reapeated line of "like this," which may be the name of the song, seemed wholly unimaginative and unworthy of purchase.  Horrible, really, the worst of corporate pimpdom gone stale.  Nope, same old thang, just selling the black man something he doesn't need.  Wait, white boy, why are you telling me what I need.  That new thing on Leno, then, you have to pick one or the other, or that fro, like you didn't know. 



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 17, 2007, 10:37:08 AM
What with Traveling Wilburys and George Harrison I took out Concert for Bangladesh.  Love it still.  My first intro to Ravi Shankar and I was amazed at how much I enjoyed that Indian music.  Dylan's set was brilliant, especially Tamborine Man.  And While My Guitar Gently Weeps is one of my favorite Harrison songs.

I was sorry I never made it to the concert (I was living in NY at the time) but was not into "rock" at the time.  Another milestone in concerts I missed.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 17, 2007, 12:24:01 PM
lulu --
I began going to Ravi Shankar concerts early on long before the Beatles made it here; in fact before the rage for all things Indian slipped into Hippie life via Mia Farrow who was a devotee of Maharishi Maheshyoga, before George took up meditation with him and was sent for sitar lessons.   I had a friend who went the same route by the Seventies and her guru put her through the same drill in order to learn how to play the instrument and told her that before you learn the whole alphabet, you must do the excercize on the notation of how to get the sound from A to B, A to B, do it over and over again. She was obliged to learn Sanskrit because in India they believe in the music of the spheres. They have a consistent philosophical and scientific gestalt.

I went to hear Shankar as often as possible because I was interested in the raga itself as a mode, since basically my dance training began with modern dance and the German modernists like Wigman used yoga, as well as did American Martha Graham who had studied with Ruth St. Denis an advocate of Indian dance. So from high-school on out, I was interested in the form that dance took, other than the basic yoga asanas that Graham had adapted for our daily floor exercises at ground level, I wanted to understand the rhythm controlling the articulations.  Or, vice-versa, for that matter.

Other than recordings of Shankar and Ali Akbar Khan, don't wince, but there are regular chants in the mode of My Sweet Lord, from the Krishna devotees at puja, and I do not mean the Hare Krishna groups who used to be outside of every airport in the US;  I used to have records that I played over and over again for dance-modes. I don't have a single one of them today nor recall the album titles.  If geezergranddad ever gets over here, as he just showed up in the forums again the other day, he may be able to find out about some from his daughter in law.  The other thing to look into is the collection of the world's music that the Aga Khan is financing which I first discovered  with Yo Yo Ma's recordings of The Great Silk Road.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 18, 2007, 04:03:31 AM
Hate to bring it up, but jazz artists like Sonny Rollins and John Coltrane were taking a far more meditative look at the music of India and Central Asia.  Rollins went to India in the 50s where he learned circular breathing, allowing him to play much longer phrases.  The idea of splitting notes also came out of this cross-polination of music.  Coltrane's music took on a much fuller dimension during this time, reaching one of the pinnacles of jazz in "A Love Supreme."  Free Jazz developed during this time, with Ornette Coleman being perhaps the greatest proponent of this genre.  Miles eventually went in this direction as well, as did many others.  David S. Ware and David Murray are two of the finer examples of "free jazz" today.

But, the real ecstasy comes from listening to Sufi music.  There was perhaps no greater proponent of this music in recent years than Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, who reaches such ecstatic highs in his music that it sends shivers down my spine. He sang in the Pakistani version known as Qawwali,

http://www.amazon.com/Night-Song-Nusrat-Fateh-Khan/dp/B000000HPH/ref=sr_1_10/103-5711346-4722226?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1187424116&sr=1-10


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 18, 2007, 01:39:08 PM
Hate to bring it up,as well, did you find any of the Kerouac/Cassady photos and weird memorabilia that I left in Meander addressed to you.
(Day before yesterday? or early yesterday?)

I have more about my first area of residence in "the upper West Side" at Hotel Paris which Art Farmer recommended(1958) and then was informed that Grass Oliphant's "girl friend" was looking for a room-mate down-town east of 2nd.Avenue.   

As a result, I was there the night Coltrane arrived and the line up at the musicians bar just to right of the door, and facing the stand opposite, was fabulous. I noticed the first man from the exit was Max Roach in dark clothes, too tall to be overlooked.  There was a great deal of curiousity about John whom they minutely watched bring out his white plastic sax to commence.

Sonny Rollins, who is an old survivor, probably due to those breathing exercises, was also known by his "mystical name" and people thought he had pretty well gone bats;except my friend Dee from San Francisco where the Sun Ra trip was kind of a normal thing, so she had nicer things to say about him.  On the other hand, just to provide the other side, Betty Sample, mutual friend of my room-mate Barbara, walked me over to visit  Sonny's old-lady, just one of several, as par the course among the more "renowned" musicians; but this one had a rep for beating up the competition, as she was a tougher kind of a pro, even if she did wear a little black hat with a little black veil and bought very expensive clothes from her very expensive maintenance charges. I should not neglect to mention however, that Betty Sample, knowing if not everybody who coincided where one world of color met up with the other world of white, was the girl-friend of a Parole Officer, who was a very nice guy, and that accounts for many of those whom Betty was acquainted with or on friendly terms for the nonce.

Yes, I did have a copy of (Mrs. Coltrane's,"Alice?") album which works off of  A Love Supreme, whose themes is built on repetitions of a musical phrase. I'd forgotten that I once had it around in the Seventies, until you mentioned it.  (I also finally remembered the album cover that I could clearly see without recalling that it was John Barley-Corn, several days ago when the round was, "What did you listen to back at the end of the Sixties?", in this forum.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 18, 2007, 01:50:59 PM
Dzimas,

I have to confess, although I've heard his songs before, I am not as fond of this synthesis. When it comes to music from the east, I usually prefer to take it straight; although as I said there are some outstanding examples if you look into the  other Khan's collection, kind of the wealthiest man in the world very charitably attempts to preserve some of the most rare music, continually endangered of going missing under the invasive Western militancy.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 18, 2007, 02:00:02 PM
Take a look at some of these particularly Yo Yo Ma (although I can't find my connection to the Khan's project which used to come up in a side-bar to these albums. Hope I find it somewhere else.)--

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_m/002-1526091-4576009?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=The+Silk+Road&Go.x=8&Go.y=8


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 20, 2007, 01:57:43 PM
Yes, I did have a copy of (Mrs. Coltrane's,"Alice?") album which works off of  A Love Supreme, whose themes is built on repetitions of a musical phrase.

Journey to Satchidananda perhaps?

(http://www.elusivedisc.com/images/AIMP%20228.JPG)


Title: It's Not Big It's Large
Post by: Dzimas on August 23, 2007, 09:05:04 AM
Couldn't resist Lyle Lovett's new CD,

http://www.amazon.com/Its-Not-Big-Large/dp/B000RIWAS0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-5791205-4542015?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1187874057&sr=1-1

Comes in a deluxe pack as well.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kitinkaboodle on August 24, 2007, 08:38:53 AM
Squirrel Nut Zippers anyone?


They're b-a-a-a-ck!  Caught them last night -- they've been MIA since the 90's -- trouble in paradise -- usual band stuff.  They are a great mix of Django Reinhardt, burlesque swing/jazz and Betty Boop.  Katharine Whalen's voice/style unusually funky , in particular two great sax, trumpet, even a tuba solo.  Lots of talent with all the players, old and new.  If they pop around your environs and you're into this -- GO!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 24, 2007, 09:29:25 AM
Watched John McLaughlin, Zakir Hussain and friends "Remembering Shakti" on Mezzo last night.  A beautiful night of music in Bombay,

(http://www.theatre-des-salins.fr/data/IMG/jpg/remeberShakti.jpg)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 24, 2007, 09:34:24 PM
jacobs:

I'm listening to Abigail Washburn's Songs of the Traveling Daughter; excellent.  I have to have more of her cds.  She's great.  Reminds me of Gillian Welsh with the spare sounds of her songs, and, of course, the banjo.  Thank goodness for the computer and for being able to listen to Gene Shay and Folk Alley on WXPN.  You should tune in that station.

Im off to amazon to get more.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 25, 2007, 08:28:56 AM
I got a kick out of the Puppini Sisters, especially their rendition of "I Will Survive,"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-62ed8TfM9E&mode=related&search=

They also do a fun version of "Heart of Glass" on Betcha Bottom Dollar,

http://www.amazon.com/Betcha-Bottom-Dollar-Puppini-Sisters/dp/B000O17152/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-5711346-4722226?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188044904&sr=1-1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 25, 2007, 09:04:10 AM
Been listening to Nanci Griffith Other Voices, Other Rooms and Other Voice, Too (Trip to Bountiful).

She's such a wonderful singer; the first album is better than the second but on the second what singers: Richard Thompson, Odetta, Ian Tyson (no mistaking his voice, even though older), the great Dave Van Ronk, Iris DeMent, John Prine.  Some of the arrangements are tacky but it's great to hear such wonderful voices.  I love her respect for singers/songwriters who get so little attention these days;  I disliked her version of Sylvia Fricker's You Were on My Mind with it's Woo, hoo, etc. 

Emmylou's Bluebird, a great album with a lovely version of Hiatt's Icy Cold Heart and her Elite Hotel, the album that introduced me to her and a lifelong (so far) addiction to her.  It's been thirty odd years since I bought that album and I still love it.

Abigail Washburn's Song of the Traveling Daughter.  She reminds me of Kasey Chambers.  What drives me crazy about Washburn is the inability to understand what she's singing (without reading lyrics).  However, I used to have the same trouble on some of Emmylou's recordings before getting used to her voice.  The great soprano, Joan Sutherland, is notorious for her mushy singing.

Great music this morning.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 26, 2007, 03:53:41 AM
I like Other Voices, Other Rooms very much as well, lulu,  as Nanci Griffith does a number of great collaborative efforts on that album.  I got a chance to see her up in Michigan at the time that album came out.  Also, love Emmylou Harris' Bluebird, one of her best efforts.  Recently bought one of Maria McKee solo efforts.  It was sad that Lone Justice had such a hard time gaining an audience, but it seems that Maria McKee has done pretty well on her own.  Hard to believe it has been 20 years.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 26, 2007, 12:45:13 PM
lulu,re:#596

I fondly remember Miss Odetta, at the time, although in the late Fifties, she was married to her manager(and then,after 1961, went to see her play--Nancy Mannigoe, directed by Tony Richardson[who may or may not have been Vanessa Redgrave's husband at that precise moment but at some point before he did,Charge of the Light Brigade].  I didn't recall Yves Montand at all, isn't that strange? I disliked Lee Remick and Bradford Dillman too much to spit.

This was of course back then the most recent production of Sanctuary, by Faulkner.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 27, 2007, 01:17:43 PM
LULU--glad but not surprised that you are enjoying Washburn. Haven't had trouble grasping her lyrics, but to me those are icing on the cake in any event.

Odetta--the woman has a voice, but her stylings come across to me as stitled and boring.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 27, 2007, 03:13:17 PM
First time I've heard anyone call Odetta boring.  I like her earlier recordings better, but was pleased with "Lookin' for a Home."


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 28, 2007, 10:30:25 AM
re:#585 spinoff from Martha Graham who studied at Denishawn (so did Louise Brooks) with Ruth St.Denis and Ted Shawn who bought what was to become Jacob's Pillow,in 1931.  Here is what it originally was:

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/08/20/arts/20070820_WINGS_SLIDESHOW_6.html

A safe-house on the Underground Railway, today known as Perry Farm


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 28, 2007, 11:41:08 AM
dzmas--just goes to show you...there is a first time for everything. The lady bores me to tears...just contrast her with Sweet Honey, Ruthie Foster, or any other number of singers who inject true spirit into their presentations!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on August 28, 2007, 11:48:26 AM
dzmas--just goes to show you...there is a first time for everything. The lady bores me to tears...just contrast her with Sweet Honey, Ruthie Foster, or any other number of singers who inject true spirit into their presentations!!


I think that is mostly because she sings an "older style", less upbeat, more mournful, none the less a style of "spirituals" from church singing that later became incorporated in the Blues as keyed to it or vice-versa; but, I know what you mean, if you are used to one thing,the other thing won't do.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 28, 2007, 12:50:37 PM
Its not that madu. I like lots of older style singers. It is because she is so overly meticulous and fussy in pronouncing every damned syllable of every damned word. She robs the music of its power and vitality.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 28, 2007, 12:53:52 PM
Now you've gone too far.  To say that Odetta robs music of its power and vitality is just plain nuts.  Obviously, you don't like her cinci, but don't put her down like that.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on August 28, 2007, 04:36:00 PM
Hmmmmm....your command is my duty? Yeah, right. She is second rate, at best. You like her, fine.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on August 28, 2007, 10:10:31 PM
My PBS station had a special on Stax Records a few weeks ago and I'm just getting around to watching it. Wonderful, wonderful stuff. Otis Redding was just a lucky pickup for them; he was a roadie for some other artist and begged for a chance to do an audition. Wow'ed them.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 29, 2007, 03:42:48 AM
Sad hearing all the bad news surrounding Amy Winehouse. The young woman has loads of talent and I think Back in Black is one of the best albums of 2007, but it seems heroin has taken its toll on the young British star.  However, I was appalled to hear Blake Fielder-Civil's father (Amy's father-in-law) this morning on BBC pleading with listeners to boycott her concerts, not that any are currently scheduled, and not buy any more records.  He has even asked the British music industry to snub her at the Mercury awards.  Whatever Amy's and Blake's problems are, she doesn't deserved to be snubbed. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on August 30, 2007, 08:09:24 PM
Jacobs:

We agree to disagree (rare) but I love Odetta.  So, there.


 :)

Hope all is well.  Everyone have a great Labor Day and don't labor.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 31, 2007, 04:38:51 AM
Miriam Makeba's breakthrough album,

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/610fZUzMExL._AA240_.jpg)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000023ZGH/ref=ord_cart_shr/203-2286297-0228752?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on August 31, 2007, 04:39:41 AM
Same to you, lulu. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on September 01, 2007, 05:47:18 PM
Jacobs:

Listening to my  favorite folk show, Gene Shay, and some great stuff:  Leo Kottke (Vaseline Machine Gun) with great guitar playing; Taj Mahal (one of the all-time greats) Cakewalk into Town, Fairport Convention.  Nanci Griffith, Boots of Spanish Leather.  One of my favorites, Vincent Black Lightning 1952.  Thompson is one of the all-time great songwriters.  Patty Loveless did a great job on his "Keep  Your Distance."


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on September 01, 2007, 06:57:56 PM
Jacobs:

I just heard a wonderful, wonderful singer named Priscilla Herdman and I just have to have her albums.  I assume you have heard of her (since you are always ahead of me).  She sang "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" and it was one of the most powerful anti-war songs I have ever heard.

What a beautiful voice; one of the loveliest since a young Judy Collins came along.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on September 01, 2007, 10:27:01 PM
Ah, Lulu, my Aussie-by-adoption (late) brother just loved that song, as he also loved other Aussie anti-war works, like Breaker Morant, Gallipoli, for example.  Your mentioning it brings back so much, many thanks.   


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 02, 2007, 04:22:32 AM
I certainly won't hold your feelings regarding Odetta against you, cincy.  So many other artists to discuss in this forum.  I have to say, I've become hooked on all the news surrounding Amy Winehouse, who I think is wonderful young talent.  This battle between fathers is really something, apparently nearly reaching blows when ever they appear together in the same venue.  It is hard to imagine that Amy is solely responsible for dragging her husband into the world of sex, drugs and rock and roll, but it seems that's the way Blake's father reads it.  Of course, the music industry has had its share of drug abusers, but that shouldn't exclude these artists from being recognized by the industry, which is what Amy's father-in-law would like the music industry to do.  If that was the case, we may never have heard little more than a peep out of Janis Joplin.  It is a shame that heroin has reared its ugly head again in the biz.  I really don't understand the appeal of the drug, but then I guess that's because I never tried it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on September 02, 2007, 12:01:45 PM
DON'T.  It causes a very short life span that the user was not figuring on. They may have felt down about life to start with --that is the appeal to the user when heroin makes you feel so much better about life; it becomes a little zombiesque after a time because you aren't really doing any living just keeping your habit together. Most of the time,the user is asleep, nodding; I'd have to guess that is comparable to the life stage of a very elderly person.

Users simply don't realize the reality of usage; just think they do. By the time that a somewhat talented person figures out how to clean  up, there is no more cleaning up. They adjust their level if they are really creative and appear to have an astounding creative period (which they could have had earlier); now, when their fans(I'm discussing music, here)expect to hear great things out of them, while their colleagues and peers who have been there/done that,and know better are not surprised, and those who were always wary just nod their heads, and shrug their shoulders to let you know they always knew what would happen, that's it, their life suddenly comes to an end because they didn't realize that there is an average twenty  year span before your health gives way suddenly and you're dead.

It's not like any of this is new.  Very old musicians can tell you because they were around when even "older" important figures had the habit.

I only learned to appreciate Joplin's style, by which I mean Janis and not Scott, when I realized they had  a time period of musicality in common; you may not think Janis sounds anything like ragtime but she does come out of the era(musically, again I'm speaking of when the style was around)when, with a slight adjustment of tempo, it was alright for a blatant screacher to express herself in a repetition which sometimes sounded like church on a bad Sunday. Of course, Janis being Janis, I don't know that she wasn't a Holy Roller, but I have to use this quote because it so perfectly expresses a couple of things,"pioneered an entirely new range of expression for white women".

That about says it. Something that was very common on the dark side of segregation, seemed to have gone through a synthesizer incorporating a few other influences and came out into an era when the above quote meant to say that white men were not used to the idea of the musicianship of women and whether or not they really wanted them around. San Francisco may have been an unusual area where this could come together equitably.  On the other hand, black men were not too keen on her sound which they seemed to imply  had been handled "better" before the "new Rock age"? 

For instance, the person I am actually describing in my opening paragraphs simply abhored being asked to play Rock, in the way that hired radio,tv,studio musicians were expected to play, or that some entrepreneur cobbled together an entertainment, when the musician himself wanted to be a creative musician per se and whose habit followed close upon revering everything that Charlie Parker laid down.

Why am I not surprised that Janis got into speed before smack, since it would seem to have an influence on her style. Heroin was probably no more than the "medicine" necessary to adjust her level of strain keeping up with her stylistic choice.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 03, 2007, 06:39:55 AM
I don't plan on trying heroin, maddie, so not to worry.  I remember Clapton railing against some rock group for glamorizing heroin in one of their songs a few years ago.  I see he has made a number of redresses since breaking his addiction back in the 70s, including opening up Crossroads Centre at Antigua,

http://crossroadsantigua.org/website/index.html

Reading his bio, the guy has gone through hell and back several times with his drug addictions and alcoholism, not to mention the loss of his son back in '91.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 04, 2007, 04:45:54 AM
Speaking of Clapton, I've really been enjoying The Road to Escondido,

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000I5X81A.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 04, 2007, 07:38:26 PM
heroin is just a hideout for some.

when the road to hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=060hM-JVClg

finds you in a hellhole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b_wdRsnoog

run like hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYd6mCAcQw8

and dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNF_P281Uu4


Title: Ennio Morricone
Post by: ponderosa on September 04, 2007, 07:40:20 PM
or get lost in the celluloidal

the good,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlxyoPNaFI

the bad,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzX2VuL2JnI

and the oboe,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRb8KKyenSY


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on September 04, 2007, 08:51:48 PM
Just as my daughter was heading off to her oboe lesson, ponderosa passed on some inspiration!  Thanks very much, indeed.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on September 05, 2007, 09:44:17 AM
not to mention the loss of his son back in '91.

I can't believe it has been that long. Very sad.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 05, 2007, 10:56:51 AM
lulu--hope have not heard of Patricia Herdman, but will check her out. As to the other singer, we will have to agree to disagree...no point wasting any more time on this.

I have been involved in an interesting project, providing music lists for a fashion photographer who shoots  for high toned mags such as Cosmo and Vogue. It is really a lot of fun creating lists of uptempo but good music that energizes the models, the photographer and set. So far the feedback has been postive. There are too many names  to mention, but one sure-fire winner is Tina Turner!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 06, 2007, 09:09:23 PM
Just as my daughter was heading off to her oboe lesson, ponderosa passed on some inspiration!  Thanks very much, indeed.

oboy!

do you have a son that's taking guitar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjJ2xOHQNMg


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on September 06, 2007, 11:47:54 PM
Er, no son taking guitar, tho' I used to play same me own self back in the day of folk music, one of many a Joan clone (Baez), did some fancy picking and dabbled in some classical.  Still saving the thing in the back of the closet for next gen. just in case.  Older daughter played bass & keyboards in a band for a few years, met a guy in another band who proposed to her onstage when they played at same venue (awwww), now the marrieds are off in E. Europe for a couple weeks. Ah, music, language of love... 



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 12:33:13 AM
awwww, indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74xpualjuhk


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 07, 2007, 01:57:04 AM
Jesus, I hadn't heard Bread in a long time.  Thanks for sharing that one, ponderosa.  The Waits video was good too.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 07, 2007, 02:00:09 AM
Speaking of Ruthie Foster, cincy-man, have you listened to "The Phenomenal Ruthie Foster" yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMP8MuVx_Rg&mode=related&search=

http://www.amazon.com/Phenomenal-Ruthie-Foster/dp/B000M06K6Q/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-5791205-4542015?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1189144777&sr=1-1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 08:53:19 AM
dzimas -- been on a bit of a nostalgia trend of late. the waits video partly inspired by a viewing of jarmusch's 'down by law' last night.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 07, 2007, 10:48:19 AM
dzmas--Not only have I heared the latest Ruthie, but I own it...she is quite wonderful!

Here is a song to get you up and going--Faith Hill doing some kick-ass gospel:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r-_uOIFyf4w&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on September 07, 2007, 12:25:48 PM
I've been gone awhile and catching up.  What happened to Chauncey?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 12:29:18 PM
Chauncey who?

(smile)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on September 07, 2007, 12:33:36 PM
Chauncey who?

(smile)

time for a change?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 12:44:28 PM
Chauncey who?

(smile)

time for a change?

Just needed some time away from forums in general. Had some stuff to do. Closed the chauncey account to resist temptation.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on September 07, 2007, 04:27:56 PM

Just needed some time away from forums in general. Had some stuff to do.

Quote

I've been off for about a month...but I wish I had the time not to have been.  I did check in to College football over the last week, what with the new season starting...but the that is what brought me here, so my first loyalty has to be to the College Board.

Glad to see you didn't drop out completely...although I will have a hard time making the mental switch from Chance the Gardner to Hoss Cartwright...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 04:47:32 PM
trojanhorse -- cheezus. too funny. i took the time off 'cause i was spending too much time around here. closed off the chauncey account thinking it would be a permanent vacation. i was actually away from the keyboard the last couple o' hours, honest injun (smile), logged back on and there you are posting. wtf?

i do read along but don't participate at the college football forum. maybe that'll change. maybe not. i do know that i will be at the ut/tcu game tomorrow. haven't been to a game in a few years but a friend got me a ticket. go 'horns!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 05:17:31 PM
another version of guitar man. anybody know of this cake person?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXuMx55PTgQ


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on September 07, 2007, 05:54:32 PM

 i do know that i will be at the ut/tcu game tomorrow. . go 'horns!


Another perfectly good friendship wasted...

I didn't realize you were a... Longhorn








:)  Have fun at the game...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 07:26:05 PM


Another perfectly good friendship wasted...


well, if that's the end... may as well drop this in...

Cheerleading, tumbling lessons and camps since age 3: $30,000
Annual cost of attending USC: $25,000
Annual cost for staying just the right shade of blonde: $10,000
Cheering when the other team scores: Priceless

(http://graphics2.snopes.com/photos/sports/graphics/rosebowl.jpg)

 ::)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on September 07, 2007, 07:57:55 PM
Yeah well...USC has become the team to hate...winning will do that.


But UT has less of a reason to be haters than anyone now don't they...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 08:58:42 PM
"Don't you dare lump me in with Jessep and Markinson and Kendrick because we wear the same uniform." Capt. Jack Ross

Hey, hate is not part of my vocabulary. FWIW, Marcus Allen is my second favorite college running back of all time.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 09:05:43 PM
uh, before we get sidetracked into more college football talk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MrK9-6LEpE


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 07, 2007, 09:15:37 PM
Someday i'll tell you the story of a post Astros game and Dusty Hill buying me a pitcher of beer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGreJBPdMlo


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on September 09, 2007, 02:06:54 PM
Thanks for the Cake video. Funny how watching it seems almost nostalgic--Cake was the first local (SF/E. Bay) band my now 14-year-old was a fan of a few years back and I think she has a few of their tunes on her iPod. Nowadays nostalgia is for CDs, I guess...

Recently hubs got one of those turntables you can use to put your albums on CD...bet the sound quality is practically nil, but also bet some of his (and my) oldest records are stuff not to be found on CD.  AND, the "World's Greatest Record Store" in Mill Valley CA is closing. Sigh...

Don't mistake me for a total old fogey, though. There is progress in so many areas of life (medicine, for ex.) without which there'd be far fewer old fogeys around to bewail "these times." 

On Edit: Had to look it up, CAKE is from Sacramento. Also had no idea they'd been around since the '90s.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake_(band)



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 09, 2007, 03:27:02 PM
Recently hubs got one of those turntables you can use to put your albums on CD...bet the sound quality is practically nil, but also bet some of his (and my) oldest records are stuff not to be found on CD.  AND, the "World's Greatest Record Store" in Mill Valley CA is closing. Sigh...

thanks for that. i garage saled most of my vinyl and wasn't willing to invest in that techie thingy for the few i have left. thanks too for the cake info.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on September 09, 2007, 04:15:03 PM
You bet, ponder---er, podner...

My hubs vinyl collection began when he was a dj at his college radio station in the  '70s and he has been unable to "part with" any, only separate them into boxes we open when we move and ones we don't, pretty much like me and my books.  (We don't even ask friends to help us move any more, and even our requests to family are limited!)



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 09, 2007, 05:06:20 PM
I was, uh... urged to sell my vinyls by the former mrs. podner (yes, my love. they do take up too much room. uh-huh, uh-huh). No regrets really. Don't even have a turntable anymore and have replaced most of the essentials with CDs.

joni... just because...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZcK48cTiU



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on September 09, 2007, 06:07:52 PM
Bless you for that, and thanks again.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 10, 2007, 05:53:45 AM
As I understand you have to have a damn good turntable and stereo system to hear the difference between vinyl and CD, not to mention a very good ear.  I lost my vinyls in a hurricane 12 years back and miss them badly.  They still haven't come out with a box set of Eric Dolphy at the Five Spot, which I had on vinyl.  Some other valuable vinyls got scratched beyond recognition including Duke and Mahalia doing Black, Brown and Beige, which I was able to replace on CD, but it just isn't the same.  Sentimental reasons more than anything else, as it is a gold disc.  CD's may not evoke as many memories as of yet, but they have come out with superlative box sets that will be valuable collector's items one day as well as an endless pleasure to listen to.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on September 10, 2007, 11:42:59 PM
I was a Rock DJ in the late 70s and still have about 1,000 LPs.   I have bought the turntable to hook up to my PC, but still haven't opened it up.   I'll let you know sound quality after I finally get around to it...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 12, 2007, 02:24:50 AM
The Dave Matthews-Tim Reynolds Live at Radio City is really something special,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCKvaMeu-yE&mode=related&search=





Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 12, 2007, 08:37:34 AM
very nice. thank you.


Title: Happy Thursday
Post by: ponderosa on September 13, 2007, 08:53:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnRqYMTpXHc


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 15, 2007, 05:06:07 AM
Never can wrong with Louis Armstrong. 

In memory of Joe Zawinul,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXjEuTYoyXo&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 15, 2007, 09:42:45 AM
Never can wrong with Louis Armstrong. 

In memory of Joe Zawinul,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXjEuTYoyXo&mode=related&search=

Saw the link you left in the Jazz forum but my browser crashes when I try to open it.

Saw these worldies the other night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThddYxUx5q4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 15, 2007, 09:45:40 AM
damn. wake up. didn't realize that was a short clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol4I40Xpiq0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 15, 2007, 04:12:40 PM
I like Gotan Project a lot.  There is also Galliano and Portal,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FzKwEeb6Og&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on September 15, 2007, 06:29:41 PM
Anyone here like Rodrigo y Gabriela?

http://www.myspace.com/rodrigoygabriela

(Click on "Diablo rojo" on the right for the song that caught my ear in a big way)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on September 16, 2007, 06:01:29 PM
It's nice to have friends with such wide tastes in music, including the bizarre and perverse.  I'm lying here with a painful sciatica attack and needed some cheering up so thanks to my friend TomD am laughing my head to  Shockheaded Peter, a "junk opera" by the Tiger Lilies.  Absolutely perverse, sadistic and subversive.  My favorite is about Poor Conrad (Suck a Thumb):  Snip, snip, the scissors go, and Conrad cries out -- Oh!  Snip, snip, they go so fast and Conrad's thumbs are off at last."

Another favorite cautionary fable is about poor Harriet who loved matches all too well.  I think my parents should have taught me about the tailor and his cure for thumb sucking and it might have cured me.  Or not!

Also playing Gyorgy Ligeti's Le Grand Macabre; next up Der Vampyre.  I do have some strange friends with some wonderfully off-the-wall tastes.

I just preordered Emmylou's new set (4 cds and a dvd) for $60!  And I think twice about paying for an opera recording but obviously not  for Emmylou.  Such is my devotion.  (Considering I just spent nearly $1000 for opera tickets, I guess this is peanuts.  But Emmylou is Emmylou and what more can be said about this divine artist.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 17, 2007, 10:18:19 AM
Ouch. I can sympathize. I've got a history of lower lumbar problems meownself. Hope you can get up and shake it soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkBAUlNVLRY


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on September 17, 2007, 04:45:28 PM
The joy of lps was and is the cover art and notes.  You could actually read the notes without a magnifying glass.  In multiple lps (boxed sets), you got a full-sized libretto or booklet with notes and pictures.  Believe it or not I'm buying my long-lost boxed sets for the art work and booklets which cds cannot duplicate.  Other people on another forum (opera) don't think I'm crazy.  The remastered works on cds frequently don't include the libretto or liner notes; you have to download them.  I'd sooner track down the original lp and buy it. 

And cd jewel cases fall apart before you can even open them.  They are a disgrace.  Lp covers could last for ages with care.  I have some that are over thirty years old (and more) and they are still with me.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 17, 2007, 04:49:40 PM
Another HUGE vote for Gotan Project. Santa Maria is incredle...likewise the entirely of Lunatico.


Lulu--gotta say in all honesty that while I am great that Shockhead Peter is giving you joy and relief, sounds like one I can easily give a pass to.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on September 19, 2007, 08:20:55 PM
Sigh!

I  bitched and moaned when Comcast took away the Americana Music Choice channel wherein I discovered Kasey and Stacey Earle and all the great singer/songwriters, roots music, etc.  Well, Comcast brought it back; unfortunately, they took away my beloved Opera channel (of which I cannot live without).  They have several rock channels, hip hop, rap, latina, several country channels and they can't have room for an  opera channel.  This is a continuation of the  dumbing  down of America.  Just look at what has been done with PBS: doo wop all the time (with continual begathons).  Here she comes, jacobs, Rosie Flores!  Should I have to choose between Rosie Flores and Bidu Sayao?  I don't think so.  Has Rosie recorded anything lately?

I just received my Priscilla Herdman cd.  Will report on it shortly.  Artie Traum and Bruce "Utah" Phillips are among the  backup artists.   Right now, Ricky Scaggs and Bruce Hornsby from their new cd.  Great channel.  Already played were Stacey Earle and Nanci Griffith.  Am waiting for the Emmylou set (4 cds and a dvd).

Hope all is well!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 21, 2007, 04:27:38 AM
Thumbs up for Lyle Lovett's latest offering,

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/617kYufCsPL._AA240_.jpg)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on September 21, 2007, 09:23:12 AM
Dzimas, got to Lovett; he does have a way with words.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on September 21, 2007, 09:45:31 AM
jacobs:

Have you heard of Kendal Carson?

Heard Tim and Mollie O'Brien.  Really must get one of their albums together.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 21, 2007, 11:13:52 AM
lulu--went to Amazon.com and all I could find recently for Rosie is a collection disc:
http://www.amazon.com/Bandera-Highway-Rosie-Flores/dp/B0001LJCPW/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-1521042-4157610?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1190387483&sr=1-1

Boxcars is on this one....one fantastic song!!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 22, 2007, 03:17:21 AM
One of the more captivating moments in Mulholland Drive,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oddg6dCB7FE


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 22, 2007, 03:19:12 AM
Dzimas, got to Lovett; he does have a way with words.

That's not all he has.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 22, 2007, 03:40:10 AM
Heard Richard Bona and Bobby McFerrin on Mezzo last night,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iimMKWF7SK0

very nice.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Detective_Winslow on September 22, 2007, 03:47:12 AM
Lyle Lovett sings for all the chicks with dicks out there. 


Eh, Dzimas?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 22, 2007, 06:39:30 AM
I wouldn't know, big boy.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 24, 2007, 11:03:39 AM
One of the more captivating moments in Mulholland Drive,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oddg6dCB7FE

Didn't know there were any. That was one hideously bad movie.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 24, 2007, 11:04:54 AM
jacobs:

Have you heard of Kendal Carson?

Heard Tim and Mollie O'Brien.  Really must get one of their albums together.

New name to me...will check him/her out.

Tim and Mollie have 2 or 3 joing releases...both excellent. Mollie has a fine one out too but you have to go to her website to order it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 24, 2007, 11:05:24 AM
Dzimas, got to Lovett; he does have a way with words.

That's not all he has.

At least we agree on Mr. Lovett.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 24, 2007, 11:06:14 AM
Lyle Lovett sings for all the chicks with dicks out there. 


Eh, Dzimas?

WTF? Where did this dickhead come from?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 25, 2007, 04:17:08 AM
Unfortunately, Det. Winslow likes to drop these little pellets.  Don't pay him any mind.


Title: Detective Doug Winslow
Post by: ponderosa on September 25, 2007, 09:33:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaKPWelHSTU


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on September 25, 2007, 09:59:19 PM
dedicated to il detectivo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkX8IafsnBM


Title: Re: Detective Doug Winslow
Post by: Dzimas on September 26, 2007, 04:19:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaKPWelHSTU

That's pretty much how I imagine him.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on September 26, 2007, 10:53:08 AM
lulu--checked out Kendel on youtube and really enjoyed her stuff. Best of all is her age in that with her and others similar, there is hope for the future for roots music.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on September 27, 2007, 04:08:02 AM
I have rediscovered my "The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny" two CD set from the mid 90's.Great stuff.Tiki Bar music may be homeless in the way it's not of the Islands but Denny really does great stuff.The background bells noises etc make me think Brian Wilsons dad played the stuff and some of Todd R's studio tricks seem to be Dennyish.


Title: They don't makes it likes they used ta
Post by: kidcarter8 on September 27, 2007, 01:39:00 PM
Just hooked up my cheapo Sony turntable to my kickass HK system, got some of the ol' vinyl out

Rafferty's Baker Street.  Sweeeeeeeeeeet.

------------------------

Meanwhile ................Little Feat and Furay tomorrow at Westbury. Oh yeahhhhh.


Title: Re: They don't makes it likes they used ta
Post by: ponderosa on September 27, 2007, 05:59:00 PM
Meanwhile ................Little Feat and Furay tomorrow at Westbury. Oh yeahhhhh.

Oooh... not to get into a good, better, or best argument, but Richie Hayward is one of the most active and entertaining drummers I have ever had the good fortune to see perform.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on September 28, 2007, 12:39:21 AM
Please review the Little Feat performance for us--my husband is a big fan, and they can even get me up to dance, no little feat (tho' mine are, rather, compared to his size 13s!).


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on September 28, 2007, 09:59:01 AM
I watched the dvds of the Johnny Cash Show from 1969 to 1971 (the years I lived in NY) and it was wonderful watching.  I watched them straight through (over four hours worth) and what a joy to watch.  (Less Johnny and more the guests.)  A very, very young Waylon Jennings before the been and camaflouge (sp?).  And Bob Dylan, neat and clean and wearing a suit and looking of so young, singing with Johnny.  James Taylor when Sweet Baby James came out (I remember that show quite well.

Johnny Cash refused to remove the word "stoned" from Sunday Morning Coming Down as ABC requested he do saying it would compromise the integrity of the song and that Kristofferson wrote it that way.

He insisted Pete Seeger appear even though Seeger was still blacklisted (IN THE SEVENTIES, FOR GOD'S SAKE) and there they  were: Seeger and Cash.

Johnny really was a god!  He supported Dylan when Dylan plugged in and idiots (like myself) were furious.  Dylan never forgot Johnny's support.

If you love Cash, this set is a treasure.  And so was Cash.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on September 28, 2007, 04:03:47 PM
Onstage, “Last to Die” is followed, as it is on the album, by a song called “Long Walk Home.” In the first verse, the speaker travels to some familiar hometown spots and experiences an alienation made especially haunting by the language in which he describes it: “I looked into their faces/They were all rank strangers to me.” That curious, archaic turn of phrase — rank strangers — evokes an eerie old mountain lament of the same title, recorded by the Stanley Brothers.
“In that particular song a guy comes back to his town and recognizes nothing and is recognized by nothing,” Mr. Springsteen said. “The singer in ‘Long Walk Home,’ that’s his experience. His world has changed. The things that he thought he knew, the people who he thought he knew, whose ideals he had something in common with, are like strangers. The world that he knew feels totally alien. I think that’s what’s happened in this country in the past six years.”

http://tinyurl.com/2uscqv



Title: Re: They don't makes it likes they used ta
Post by: TrojanHorse on September 28, 2007, 06:42:52 PM
Just hooked up my cheapo Sony turntable to my kickass HK system, got some of the ol' vinyl out

Rafferty's Baker Street.  Sweeeeeeeeeeet.


so,  you're not a kid after all?


Good to know...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on September 28, 2007, 06:44:34 PM
Jimmy Buffett tomorrow night.   

Haven't seen him live in about...20 years -- and he was old then!   

goodness how the time flies


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on September 29, 2007, 01:44:27 AM
Last time I saw him was outdoors in Irvine about 20 years back.


Title: Re: They don't makes it likes they used ta
Post by: kidcarter8 on September 29, 2007, 12:19:22 PM
Just hooked up my cheapo Sony turntable to my kickass HK system, got some of the ol' vinyl out

Rafferty's Baker Street.  Sweeeeeeeeeeet.


so,  you're not a kid after all?


Good to know...

You don't know who Kid Carter is?

Shame


Title: Re: Newest "joke" in packaging
Post by: lulu on September 29, 2007, 06:19:39 PM
I just received Emmylou's Songbird retro (4 cds, one dvd; one hardbound book on her history, recordings, etc.).  It is a magnificent package, costing me $60.

What pisses me off (and others on amazon who bought it) is the fact that to get the discs out you practically have to rip them out of the sleeves.  They are stuck inside sleeves with no room to move or flexibility to get the disc out safely.  What morons thought of this setup??  They spent so much money on  the beautiful packaging except figuring out how the consumer can remove the discs without destroying the package.

It is such a gorgeous package, especially the book.  I dread trying to take out the cds.  Pathetic!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on September 30, 2007, 11:42:38 AM
Jimmy Buffett tomorrow night.   

Haven't seen him live in about...20 years -- and he was old then!   

goodness how the time flies

I guess it may indicate how old I am, but Jimmy Buffett lost me around the time he came out with the Volcano album.  The Fins song in particular. 


Title: Re: Newest "joke" in packaging
Post by: Dzimas on October 01, 2007, 02:35:31 AM
I just received Emmylou's Songbird retro (4 cds, one dvd; one hardbound book on her history, recordings, etc.).  It is a magnificent package, costing me $60.

What pisses me off (and others on amazon who bought it) is the fact that to get the discs out you practically have to rip them out of the sleeves.  They are stuck inside sleeves with no room to move or flexibility to get the disc out safely.  What morons thought of this setup??  They spent so much money on  the beautiful packaging except figuring out how the consumer can remove the discs without destroying the package.

It is such a gorgeous package, especially the book.  I dread trying to take out the cds.  Pathetic!

I suppose they think this kind of packaging evokes the old vinyls, but at least they came with liner sleeves, which CD packages like this should do as well.  I prefer the long books like the Santana and ELO box sets came in.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on October 01, 2007, 09:54:38 AM
Warsaw Village Band is awesome. Youtube has a number of their videos and songs. Here is a particularly good and rhythmic one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QqGN23fn6j0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on October 01, 2007, 05:52:40 PM
Relief: I managed to extricate the cds.  Emmylou is a goddess and this set is worth it.  Some really rare tracks I never heard and some I have heard.  I'm listening to her sing How High the Moon, an old old standard, that sounds great sung by Emmylou in a swing arrangement, a side of her I never heard before and it's fun.  This singer can do almost anything well.  I never knew she cowrote several songs with Rodney Crowell.  The booklet (or tiny book) is almost worth the price of the whole set.

If you love Emmylou, then I highly recommend this boxed set.  It's a treasure (even if it takes some doing to figure out how to extricate the discs.  Haven't seen the dvd yet.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kidcarter8 on October 01, 2007, 06:22:48 PM
Can you post the list of songs?

Thanks


Title: Re: They don't makes it likes they used ta
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 01, 2007, 10:00:50 PM

You don't know who Kid Carter is?

Shame


which one?   the boxer, the catcher, the musician...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 01, 2007, 10:03:02 PM
Last time I saw him was outdoors in Irvine about 20 years back.

Irvine Meadows ... now Verizon Wireless...


yes, that is where the show was on Saturday.   Still very much the same.  He's a little fatter and a little balder..  everything else was about the same...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 01, 2007, 10:08:30 PM

I guess it may indicate how old I am, but Jimmy Buffett lost me around the time he came out with the Volcano album.  The Fins song in particular. 

Well, yes there was definitely a career transition there  from country/folk to island/party.  If you were into the whole island thing back in the 80s then he probably wouldn't have lost you (or if you were a sailor)...

People always are surprised when I bring up this parallel, but the closest thing I can equate a Jimmy Buffett concert to was the Grateful Dead shows-- different music to be sure, but it is an extended family, multi generational  event on stage and off with a lot of really good peaceful vibes and just fun times...

You should give him another look someday.  Try reading his biography--that's worth a look right there.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 02, 2007, 12:39:52 AM
I've heard a lot of people equate the two, hence Parrotheads, but I saw little similarities.  The grooves were entirely different and Buffett had become totally absorbed in his commercial appeal.  Not that Jerry Garcia didn't enjoy the celebrity status he achieved either, but the Dead never lost their roots.  Their music still drew on many of the same themes from the 60s.  With Buffett the music had become virtually unlistenable as far as I was concerned.  I tried Barometer Soup, and it was soupy alright.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kidcarter8 on October 02, 2007, 12:46:18 AM
Buffet's evidently on the new Little Feat CD - out next year


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 02, 2007, 07:26:36 AM
Cincy, the Warsaw Village Band looks and sounds like a lot of fun.  Have you listened to Balkan Beat Box,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYAVMoMfNA&mode=related&search=

or Gulag Orkestar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF5PjBjF5h8&mode=related&search=


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 02, 2007, 07:30:34 AM
I was pleasantly surprised to find a Rhino release of The Pretenders classic Learning to Crawl with some mighty fine extra tracks such as a live recording of My City Was Gone,

http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Crawl-Pretenders/dp/B000NA2ALY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-5791205-4542015?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1191324567&sr=1-1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 02, 2007, 06:46:20 PM
ooh, aah... ah, the mtv days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGPHLao8Hr0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 03, 2007, 02:22:59 AM
Always liked the Brass in Pocket video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2OpNoT8rbk

A shame to have lost both Farndon and Honeyman-Scott.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 03, 2007, 09:15:48 AM
It's a fine line between use and abuse.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 03, 2007, 09:52:54 AM
I saw the Pretenders at a concert in Gainesville many years ago.  It was at the time they came out with Learning to Crawl.  Nothing spectacular, but they were a solid band.  It was interesting to read in wikipedia that Chrissie often toured with different musicians than she used in the studio, and she went through a lot of studio musicians over the years.  Seems she was tough on her bandmates.  She apparently gave Farndon the boot shortly before he OD'd.  I guess what I like most about Learning to Crawl is that it evokes the ghosts of Honeyman-Scott and Farndon without being sentimental.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 03, 2007, 09:55:26 AM
Enjoying Marianne Faithfull's "Before the Poison." Great having Nick Cave, PJ Harvey and others on this set of tracks.  She still sounds as strong as ever,

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006Z3DDA.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 03, 2007, 12:57:51 PM
While on the subject of substance abuse...

Will Mick convince Amy to go to re-hab?

http://snarkerati.com/celebrity-gossip/mick-jaggers-gives-amy-winehouse-some-friendly-advice/


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on October 03, 2007, 02:49:53 PM
dzmas--ty for the links. Have you hear Folk Scat? Good stuff
http://www.amazon.com/Folk-Scat/dp/B000005WN1/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-9773405-6731315?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1191437357&sr=1-1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 03, 2007, 11:55:15 PM
Sounds interesting, cincy.  Bulgarian music is certainly unique and a national treasure.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 04, 2007, 03:18:32 AM
There is something ominously similar between Amy Winehouse and Janis Joplin, as she struggles with the harsh lights of celebrity.  But on another note it seems that Sharon Jones is a little miffed by all this attention Amy's been getting, feeling that Winehouse "jacked her sound,"

http://www.whudat.com/newsblurbs/more/sharon_jones_says_amy_winehouse_jacked_her_sound_1681003071/

Here's a soundbite,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5oWJEJBmxE

not the first time.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 04, 2007, 07:08:53 AM
I'm no marketing guru, but maybe a Sharon Jones & Amy Winehouse tour backed by the Dap Kings could help with getting Ms. Jones some exposure and Ms. Winehouse some favorable headlines. "Amy avoids re-hab! Battle of the Jacked-Sound World Tour commences!"


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 04, 2007, 11:39:01 AM
If you like Amy Winehouse, you will like Sharon Jones' Naturally,

http://www.amazon.com/Naturally-Sharon-Jones-Dap-Kings/dp/B00070Q8L8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-5791205-4542015?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1191512253&sr=1-2


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on October 04, 2007, 01:09:31 PM
dzimas..you can get a copy from amazon.com dirt cheap, used.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 04, 2007, 10:06:55 PM
what with ken burns' war airing this week i came across this. it's a little long, but if ya like al stewart...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnrLmwGVSDM


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 05, 2007, 03:09:09 AM
dzimas..you can get a copy from amazon.com dirt cheap, used.

Maybe now that Sharon Jones has drawn more attention to herself, her sales will get a boost.  I first heard Jones on KEXP iin Seattle, but I didn't make the connect until I read that article.  I can understand her gripes, but there is nothing new about funk, and with it being oh so cool again, Winehouse is not the only one "jacking" the sound.  Jones may have beaten Winehouse to the punch, but that's about it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 06, 2007, 12:03:33 PM
slow down, world. please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4tsbDzv3yo


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 06, 2007, 12:20:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87P-1t_8aWU


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on October 08, 2007, 12:24:54 AM
Am just back from a beautiful and most satisfying day in Golden Gate Park at the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival, had to leave before finale with Doc Watson & group & Emmylou Harris but after Earl Scruggs played quite an extensive set ending with "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" (a good departure point, I thought).   

Missed a group we have enjoyed in times past, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, who played yesterday (friends who saw/heard them yesterday said they're branching out into jazz).  The new-to-me local group of today that I'll be sure to look up: Hot Buttered Rum, whose set I only heard part of, but had quite a variety, including a bluegrass version of a Paul Simon song that some cannabis-befogged folks near me took a while to recognize, a wonderful song about being a new kind of man ("Be kind" began each line), and some fine a capella harmony on their final song.

This was the 6th of these events and I'm sorry to miss the first five but I'll certainly do my best go back next year.   


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 08, 2007, 09:53:50 AM
I was listening to Bela Fleck and the Flecktones the other day.  I just love Sinister Minister,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K84qTXugaSk

and that Synthaxe Drumitar Roy "Future Man" Wooten plays.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on October 08, 2007, 11:20:54 AM
Fleck and the Flecktones have been jazz oriented for quite some time. He is still bluegrassy in other venues.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 10, 2007, 04:43:44 AM
Speaking more of the Flecktones, or atleast a part of them, Victor Wooten will be in Lithuania this month,

http://www.kaunasjazz.lt/index.php?lan=EN&dalyv=181

Looking forward to it.  There seem to be a lot of Wootens.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 10, 2007, 02:08:07 PM
Speaking more of the Flecktones, or atleast a part of them, Victor Wooten will be in Lithuania this month,

http://www.kaunasjazz.lt/index.php?lan=EN&dalyv=181

Looking forward to it.  There seem to be a lot of Wootens.

it's a family affair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcESfuXMkgE


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 17, 2007, 03:24:16 AM
The Spice Girls' Secret

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/50484455

I would think the Pussycat Dolls would go the same route, since they like to dress in lingerie as well.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 17, 2007, 09:13:44 PM
Spice girls hock lingerie at Victoria's Secret...

Posh's Husband David introduces new Cologne to be marketed alongside, but Old Spice name is already taken...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 18, 2007, 04:39:18 AM
It seems to me that you could have a good "cat fight" between the Spice Girls and the Pussycat Dolls, since it seems the only thing these two "bands" have going for them is their visual appeal.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 18, 2007, 11:05:29 AM
...continuing the cat theme


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kidcarter8 on October 18, 2007, 01:34:15 PM
It seems to me that you could have a good "cat fight" between the Spice Girls and the Pussycat Dolls, since it seems the only thing these two "bands" have going for them is their visual appeal.

.......unless you like catchy pop.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on October 18, 2007, 09:42:29 PM
Hey Burnzy, how goes it? Long time no talk.

Anyway, have you ever heard the song This Time Tomorrow by the Kinks? I haven't seen the movie, but it's on the soundtrack to The Darjeeling Limited, and KCRW has been playing it. Great, great song. Man, I've gotta get more acclimated with the Kinks canon.

How's life otherwise?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 18, 2007, 10:23:21 PM
Hey Burnzy, how goes it? Long time no talk.

Hey, man.

Oh yeah, I believe I still have a vinyl copy of Lola 'n Powerman. Great album. I saw the trailer to TDL. I recall hearing at least one other Kinks tune, another of Lola 'n P, I believe. Anderson has used Kinks before. A lot of the early Brit wave made its way onto the soundtrack of Rushmore.

Been hittin' at a local pitch 'n putt on weekends and the occasional driving range during the week. Played a short nine hole a few months ago, but pro'lly won't take it up regularly. Don't wanna cut into the disc golf playing time.

Watching any baseball? Great game going on right now.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 19, 2007, 12:06:21 AM
As a tribute to the days when the end of the baseball season signified the end of summer (well, kinds sorta in my latitude).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIhWBVPeUtM


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 19, 2007, 12:33:14 AM
Ha! Didn't dig out the vinyl, but I found this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d8y6mQbX-A


Title: PS
Post by: ponderosa on October 19, 2007, 10:07:01 AM
es-gee

Just got thru reading One Train Later by Andy Summers. The guy has an interesting story to tell and he is a pretty good writer in an entertaining way. Thought I'd mention it as the theme of Lola versus Powerman... runs thru this enjoyable read.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 19, 2007, 10:48:48 AM
Burnsey?

Dude, how many times have you gone through this " I don't like my persona anymore" thing?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 19, 2007, 11:04:58 AM
Burnsey?

Dude, how many times have you gone through this " I don't like my persona anymore" thing?

Climb on out of your trojan horse and sit a spell. I'll 'splain it all over a cup of coffee.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 19, 2007, 11:34:18 AM

Climb on out of your trojan horse and sit a spell. I'll 'splain it all over a cup of coffee.

I can't think of you any other way than Chance


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 19, 2007, 11:45:23 AM

Climb on out of your trojan horse and sit a spell. I'll 'splain it all over a cup of coffee.

I can't think of you any other way than Chance

Oh, that. Sorry. I was burnzred going back to the nytimes days. Little Big Man being my favorite flick, I took the name of one of the characters, namely Burns Red in the Sun. I had no particular reason to pick him as my persona other than he was a character in LBM. sgrobin and I go back to the golf forum at nytimes. I reckon I'll always be burnzy to him.

Truth is, Chauncey, of Being There fame, is pro'lly closer to my true, live, in the flesh 'n blood persona. Shouldn't have shut that account down, but hey, stuff happens.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 19, 2007, 12:08:24 PM
why the heck isn't the golf forum more busy here then?   :)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 19, 2007, 12:14:49 PM
why the heck isn't the golf forum more busy here then?   :)


"Must have something to do with where choo-choo go. Mongo only pawn in game of life." ::)





Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 19, 2007, 12:40:57 PM
Apologies again. Too many phone calls and e-mails coming at me in the last hour. How dare people bother me with bidness on a Friday (smile).

I don't get into golf much other than watching the Majors and an occasional compelling tourney. We had a group over at nytimes that used to like to go off-topic and discuss movies, music, potent potables and such. sgrobin and I are the only two that made it over here. If I'm still around next spring, I'll contribute, but I don't play much ball golf. I just like talking about the tourneys and then just as they are unfolding.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 19, 2007, 01:24:19 PM

"Must have something to do with where choo-choo go. Mongo only pawn in game of life." ::)


lol


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on October 20, 2007, 06:42:51 PM
Jacobs:

I've been listening to Folk Alley on the radio station of U of Pennsylvania with my old friend, Gene Shay, who has run a folk music station since the sixties in Philly.  It was on his folk station that I heard Steeleye Span and he's great.  I just heard Priscilla Herdman's And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda, a potent antiwar song if ever.  He also played Steve and Stacey Earle, back to back.  He plays great stuff and you should check out this station.  Old and new friends.  Right now Baez.

http://www.xponentialmusic.org/live_streams/xpn.php

I love Springsteen's new cd, Magic.  The man just keeps maturing and maturing and you know he has two political songs on this album.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on October 20, 2007, 11:38:59 PM
Quote
Don't wanna cut into the disc golf playing time.

Another disc golfer, like my son-in-law!  If you ever find yourself in San Francisco (as so many have) the course in Golden Gate Park is quite nicely recently redone.  I bet SIL would go 'round with you.  He found a group online to play when in Vienna not long ago, but they used portable equipment and had to play around kids & families.  Not so in GG Park or Berkeley or other sites in the area.     

So as not to go too far from music talk, a band he & my daughter saw last night is Go Team, about which I have yet to learn.         


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 21, 2007, 07:54:07 AM
Quote
Don't wanna cut into the disc golf playing time.

Another disc golfer, like my son-in-law!  If you ever find yourself in San Francisco (as so many have) the course in Golden Gate Park is quite nicely recently redone.  I bet SIL would go 'round with you.  He found a group online to play when in Vienna not long ago, but they used portable equipment and had to play around kids & families.  Not so in GG Park or Berkeley or other sites in the area.     

So as not to go too far from music talk, a band he & my daughter saw last night is Go Team, about which I have yet to learn.         

Well, as a matter of fact, I got a friend livin' in Berkeley (he plays as well) who I haven't visited in a couple of years. As another matter of fact, I saw his Dad last night. Don't have any immediate plans to head that way right now, but I'll hold that thought. Shoot me a message if you want to hook up my friend with your son-in-law.

Saw a brass band play at a party last night. Pretty impressive. They played everything from Beatles, to surf music, to New York, New York.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on October 21, 2007, 08:15:14 PM
Son-in-law plays often enough in Berkeley, they may have met or belong to the same league or whatever disc golfers call their groups--I almost said circles--oops, did anyway.  Happy throws to y'all.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 22, 2007, 12:08:16 AM
Used to play disc golf when I was in college, only we called it Folf, or frisbee golf.  That was 25 years ago, glad to see it still is played.  Sounds like it has become highly competitive.

Speaking of Berkeley/SF, I see there are a slew of live albums by Jefferson Airplane that have become available, including this one,

http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Gate-Park-Jefferson-Airplane/dp/B000IHY1EQ/ref=pd_bxgy_m_text_b/002-4086232-9828850


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 22, 2007, 09:59:05 AM
whatever disc golfers call their groups--I almost said circles--oops, did anyway.

I call 'em 'herds'.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on October 23, 2007, 11:24:35 AM
lulu--Haven't heard the new Springsteen, but the new John Fogarty disc, Revival, has some great moments. Also enjoying Hillstomp, The Woman That Ended the World.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 24, 2007, 08:27:11 AM
I see Prince's Purple Rain was picked as best Soundtrack of All Time by Vanity Fair,

Quote
"Purple Rain" topped the chart even though it was described as "perhaps the best badly acted film ever," editors at Vanity Fair said, while "Trainspotting" came in at No. 7 and "Saturday Night Fever" was eighth.

The Vanity Fair editors said the "Purple Rain" soundtrack was a flawless combination of "funk, R&B, pop, metal, and even psychedelia into a sound that defined the '80s."

"A Hard Day's Night" came in a No. 2, followed by "The Harder They Come," "Pulp Fiction," "The Graduate" and "Superfly." "American Graffiti" and "The Big Chill" rounded out the top 10.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071024/lf_nm_life/soundtracks_dc

I guess we will have to wait until next month for an explanation for this.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 24, 2007, 11:00:41 AM
The Sting wasn't even mentioned huh?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 24, 2007, 05:20:20 PM
The Sting wasn't even mentioned huh?

Wasn't he in Quadrophenia?  ::)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kidcarter8 on October 24, 2007, 05:46:25 PM
No 'Idolmaker'?

Bollocks!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 24, 2007, 07:18:16 PM


Wasn't he in Quadrophenia?  ::)

Excellent Point... "Quadrophenia" should definitely qualify as one of the best "Sountracks" of all time...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 25, 2007, 07:23:39 AM
Does Quadrophenia qualify as having a soundtrack or was it scored?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 25, 2007, 07:30:10 AM
Patton and Jaws come to mind when I think of great scores. We need another list!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 25, 2007, 07:35:10 AM
I would think Harold and Maude would definitely qualify,

http://zensite.home.att.net/haroldandmaude/

although it doesn't seem an official soundtrack was ever released.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 25, 2007, 07:38:56 AM
Rushmore had a pretty good soundtrack,

http://www.amazon.com/Rushmore-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B00000HZPY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-5791205-4542015?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1193312234&sr=1-1

And Life Aquatic has to be one of the more inventive soundtracks, although I liked the Seu Jorge CD better,

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Aquatic-Studio-Sessions/dp/B000BRD6T4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-5791205-4542015?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1193312313&sr=1-1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on October 25, 2007, 10:21:31 AM

I would think Harold and Maude would definitely qualify,

http://zensite.home.att.net/haroldandmaude/

although it doesn't seem an official soundtrack was ever released.


That title,Tea for the Tillerman, really brought back home the sound from Harold and Maude which i guess was our last opportunity to see Ruth Gordon at her quirkiest moment, the epitome of a long career.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 25, 2007, 10:31:25 AM
Dug up an old essay about the Patton "soundtrack".

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/1997/08_Sep---Which_Patton.asp


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 25, 2007, 06:19:10 PM
Does Quadrophenia qualify as having a soundtrack or was it scored?

hmmm... well the album came out many years before the movie...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on October 25, 2007, 08:56:58 PM
Quote
I call 'em 'herds'.

Sorry if there's a joke I'm not getting. Hope you'll 'splain it to me, tia if you will.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 26, 2007, 07:50:33 AM
nyt -- no, not much of a joke. my regular bunch just calls groups of six or more 'herds'.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 26, 2007, 07:53:32 AM
Does Quadrophenia qualify as having a soundtrack or was it scored?

hmmm... well the album came out many years before the movie...

so, the soundtrack was scored... by the film?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 27, 2007, 04:07:27 AM
I always liked Who's Next better,

http://www.amazon.com/Whos-Next-Who/dp/B000002OX7/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-7886885-8579000?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1193472343&sr=8-1

and Tommy did more for me than Quadrophenia as well.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 27, 2007, 08:44:52 AM
I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite out of those three. Who Are You is definitely #4 on the list, but 1 thru 3 would vary.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 27, 2007, 10:36:19 AM
The DVD of The Kids Are Alright ranks right up there as well,

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Kids-Are-Alright-Special/dp/B0000AFQS0/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-7886885-8579000?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1193495718&sr=1-1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 27, 2007, 10:54:30 AM
Another blast from the past,

(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/130/139440.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Stones-Rock-Roll-Circus/dp/B000621484/ref=s9_js_pop_title/103-7886885-8579000?ie=UTF8&pf%5Frd%5Ft=101&pf%5Frd%5Fm=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf%5Frd%5Fp=278240301&pf%5Frd%5Fs=center-2&pf%5Frd%5Fr=1Q8NGAH2KKJYK8EKS2AB&pf%5Frd%5Fi=507846

While it doesn't rank as one of the Stones' better efforts, it certainly makes for a great curiosity piece, along with Gimme Shelter.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 27, 2007, 05:30:14 PM
The DVD of The Kids Are Alright ranks right up there as well,

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Kids-Are-Alright-Special/dp/B0000AFQS0/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-7886885-8579000?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1193495718&sr=1-1

Oh, yeah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xZOrWK6d4g

Hey, Trojanhorse. You doing alright out west?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on October 28, 2007, 12:57:35 AM
I posted about this in books, but it may be of interest here:

If the 2 NPR interviews I heard are any indication, Oliver Sacks's new "this is your brain on music" book sounds (get it?) fascinating.  (This link to amazon has a few related videos, hope it works)  http://www.amazon.com/Musicophilia-Tales-Music-Oliver-Sacks/dp/1400040817/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9000503-2260437?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193518607&sr=8-1

I love it that there are more areas of the brain that "light up" on an EEG during engagement with music than almost any other activity.  WOOT!



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Lhoffman on October 28, 2007, 01:03:30 AM
I heard Sacks the other day on Fresh Air.  Sounds like a great read.

Teaching music gives an interesting perspective of how the brain works.  The studies I've seen indicate that practicing music forms new pathways between the right and left brain.  This makes sense to me, as reading and playing music requires the use of language and spacial reasoning.  (Something that I find less easy to explain is that elementary piano students often experience a growth in mathematical skills while more advanced students who spend many hours a day practicing (we're talking career oriented) experience a deterioration of math skills.) 



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 28, 2007, 07:37:36 PM
I love it that there are more areas of the brain that "light up" on an EEG during engagement with music than almost any other activity.  WOOT!

Don't it make you wanna shout?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7G1-IR2rrU


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 28, 2007, 08:02:32 PM
For Trojanhorse and the rest of SoCal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYWCvLVLM08


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 29, 2007, 07:39:52 PM

so, the soundtrack was scored... by the film?


hmmm...   I think I know you well enough to interpret that I am being messed with now...   sorry if I did not pick up on it earlier...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 29, 2007, 07:44:03 PM
I always liked Who's Next better,


No comparison of course...

Who are You?  One of my favorite album covers.  Not to be taken away...which of course he was, shortly after


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 29, 2007, 07:46:16 PM

Hey, Trojanhorse. You doing alright out west?

"Still" burning not far from my place believe it or not--but it appears to be mostly moving away from us now.  We had a couple of days respite from the smoke, but it was pretty bad again yesterday.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 29, 2007, 07:49:20 PM
Fresh Air. 



Have another hit?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on October 29, 2007, 11:43:50 PM
Quote
more advanced students who spend many hours a day practicing (we're talking career oriented) experience a deterioration of math skills.

Maybe by the time they're getting career oriented, it becomes a matter of how much sheer time is diverted from math skills to musical ones, or maybe there's a loss of interest in further developing the math.  Just a thought.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Lhoffman on October 30, 2007, 12:34:04 AM
Nytemps...I'm sure there is something to that idea.  There is only so much a person can focus on and not many people can truly excel in more than one area. 

Trojanhorse....Here's hoping you get many more hits...and soon.  California is a beautiful state, seems something for everyone.  But when disaster strikes....


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 30, 2007, 06:31:14 AM

so, the soundtrack was scored... by the film?


hmmm...   I think I know you well enough to interpret that I am being messed with now...   sorry if I did not pick up on it earlier...

No problem. You wouldn't be the first.

Hope more fresh air is headed your way.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on October 30, 2007, 02:32:55 PM
NEW YORK - Elvis Presley is still the King

(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/10/12/Elvis_061012125929541_wideweb__300x375.jpg)

Presley, who earned an estimated $49 million in the past 12 months, has reclaimed the No. 1 spot on Forbes.com's list of Top-Earning Dead Celebrities. He last topped the list in 2005.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071030/ap_en_mu/forbes_richest_dead_celebs



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 30, 2007, 03:58:37 PM
God bless dead guys with drug problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLmT70EOCys


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 30, 2007, 08:12:07 PM
I was waiting for someone to name that Band...

Quicksilver Messenger Service


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on October 31, 2007, 03:14:43 PM
Lyrics

Title: Lives In The Balance (Jackson Browne)

I've been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headlines
And the sound of the crowd in my ear
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that youve seen it before
Where a government lies to a people
And a country is drifting to war

And theres a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in places
Where their business interest runs

On the radio talk shows and the t.v.
You hear one thing again and again
How the u.s.a. stands for freedom
And we come to the aid of a friend
But who are the ones that we call our friends--
These governments killing their own?
Or the people who finally cant take any more
And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone
There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

Theres a shadow on the faces
Of the men who fan the flames
Of the wars that are fought in places
Where we cant even say the names

They sell us the president the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us every thing from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear somebody asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But theyre never the ones to fight or to die
 
And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

..............................
.......................

Steppenwolf

(Monster)
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our  homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster

© Copyright MCA Music (BMI)




Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on October 31, 2007, 03:30:44 PM
careful Maddie.   Your slip is showing...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on October 31, 2007, 04:44:21 PM

careful Maddie.   Your slip is showing...


OOPS....are you saying that I'm not allowed to post that? I thought when I showed copyrighted source that it was all right,no? 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on October 31, 2007, 07:07:52 PM
Wow. I didn't pay enough attention to Steppenwolf. All I remember is Born to be Wild and Magic Carpet Ride. Didn't realize they got political as well. Thanks, ma.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 01, 2007, 05:32:57 AM
On a different note, I managed to find a download of Monster Mash on the Net, which added spice to last night's Halloween Party. This is a fun video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thH3qnHTbI

But, The Time Warp still takes the prize for the top Halloween Party song,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdu7xoHU9DA


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 02, 2007, 02:34:24 PM
me no parlez vu frenchie... but cool tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFbyp3KfCd4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on November 02, 2007, 05:21:48 PM
Are you quite sure that wasn't Nick Sarkozy introducing a touring show of this music group in Paris?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 02, 2007, 06:06:34 PM
I don't know, ma. It all sounds Greek to me.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 03, 2007, 10:49:13 AM
Wow. I didn't pay enough attention to Steppenwolf. All I remember is Born to be Wild and Magic Carpet Ride. Didn't realize they got political as well. Thanks, ma.

that was all the rage in the late 60s.  If you didn't have an anti-war  (or other political) song, you almost couldn't be considered serious.  Even though a lot of them weren't very good.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 03, 2007, 10:50:14 AM

OOPS....are you saying that I'm not allowed to post that?

no..I meant your Freudian slip


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 03, 2007, 12:43:29 PM
Wow. I didn't pay enough attention to Steppenwolf. All I remember is Born to be Wild and Magic Carpet Ride. Didn't realize they got political as well. Thanks, ma.

that was all the rage in the late 60s.  If you didn't have an anti-war  (or other political) song, you almost couldn't be considered serious.  Even though a lot of them weren't very good.

I was busy putting baseball cards in the spokes of my bicycle during the late 60s and listening to my sister's Motown and Elvis discs or listening to my Dad singing Tony Bennett and Eddy Arnold (make the world go away...). Local radio options were top 40, country 'n western, or conjunto. Didn't know politics from hot licks. Oh, there was Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks but that was early 70s, I believe.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 03, 2007, 12:54:15 PM

I was busy putting baseball cards in the spokes of my bicycle during the late 60s and listening to my sister's Motown and Elvis discs or listening to my Dad singing Tony Bennett and Eddy Arnold (make the world go away...). Local radio options were top 40, country 'n western, or conjunto. Didn't know politics from hot licks. Oh, there was Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks but that was early 70s, I believe.

We're probably close to the same age then.  I just had older brothers and sisters and grew up in California.  As a DJ in the late 70s, I had an affinity for late sixties through early 70s music...

I'm surprised you didn't reference Patsy Cline -- was your mom not a fan?  (even in secret?)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 03, 2007, 12:55:37 PM
OK, let's kick start this mutha...

Midge Ure - either solo or with Ultravox.  What's your favorite piece and why?

If he can't get your motor running somewhere in his career...you're probably already dead...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 03, 2007, 01:10:41 PM
I'm surprised you didn't reference Patsy Cline -- was your mom not a fan?  (even in secret?)

Heard Ms. Cline on the radio.

As far as my Mom's secrets... well, they are secrets.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 03, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
OK, let's kick start this mutha...

Midge Ure - either solo or with Ultravox.  What's your favorite piece and why?

If he can't get your motor running somewhere in his career...you're probably already dead...

I ain't quite dead yet, but during that era I was in a bit of a fog, pharmaceutically speaking. Was slow to wise up to that second British wave. Sorry.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 03, 2007, 03:06:02 PM
Hey. Didn't mean to shut you out.

Didya or do ya dig on The Clash? Or Strummer's work with The Mescaleros?


Title: singing to freedom
Post by: ponderosa on November 05, 2007, 07:53:48 AM
Came across this this weekend...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9PmZo-2jo

Most people don't think about singing when they think about revolutions. But song was the weapon of choice when, between 1986 and 1991, Estonians sought to free themselves from decades of Soviet occupation. During those years, hundreds of thousands gathered in public to sing forbidden patriotic songs and to rally for independence.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 05, 2007, 08:10:02 AM
Very good compilation of Robert Plant's post-Zep days:

(http://www.robertplanthomepage.com/albums/sixtysixtotimbuktu/plantcover_sixtysixtotimbuktu.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Sixty-Six-Timbuktu-Robert-Plant/dp/B0000DIZQQ/ref=sr_1_9/105-5791205-4542015?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1194268046&sr=1-9

at a reasonable price.  Includes his track from Festival in the Desert,

http://www.amazon.com/Festival-Desert-Various-Artists/dp/B0000CBLAM/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-5791205-4542015?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1194269089&sr=1-1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on November 05, 2007, 12:02:56 PM


OOPS....are you saying that I'm not allowed to post that?

no..I meant your Freudian slip


As far as I know, Freud never wore a slip.  (but that would be a real exciting find, considering so many of his patients were women)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 05, 2007, 12:21:21 PM
For me, it would be extraordinarily difficult to narrow Midge Ure down to one favorite - so may a favorite for different moods...

How about perhaps the most dramatic love song ever written or performed...  (which should come as quite a shock to some)...

Just For You

I'm not sure what reading these cold would do for anyone who has never listened to the song, but I can say that anyone that has had a difficult romantic experience in their lives would likely be moved to tears when listening to the passion that Ure puts into the song itself.




And as long as we're posting lyrics...

Just for you, I could fly
Just for you, I could walk the oceans
I would cross all divides
To satisfy your whims and notions
For you, I could break the system
I would take every blow
Survive upon a poor man's wisdom

And if you want I'd chase the world away
And when you cry I'd kiss the tears away

Just for you, I would cry
Just for you, I would fall down to my knees
And pray that I could raise a love that's fit to please you

And if you're lonely I will be with you
If you're in doubt I'll tell you what to do
I would take your hand and I'll lead you through
I'd give my very soul to be with you

And when infatuation fades I'll still be by your side
I will be there when you call
There's not one thing I wouldn't do
That I couldn't do at all
that I wouldn't do at all

Just for you, I would change
Just for you, I would break the system
I would take every blow
Survive upon a poor man's wisdom



copyright Midge Ure 1988


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 05, 2007, 02:10:18 PM
I'm not sure what reading these cold would do for anyone who has never listened to the song, but I can say that anyone that has had a difficult romantic experience in their lives would likely be moved to tears when listening to the passion that Ure puts into the song itself.

So, you seem to be implying that difficult romantic experiences are more universal than one may be willing to concede? And I thought I was the only one.  ::)

Thanks for posting that. Those words stand up by themselves, but you have piqued my interest and I may have to investigate this Midge Ure person.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 05, 2007, 02:18:03 PM

Thanks for posting that. Those words stand up by themselves, but you have piqued my interest and I may have to investigate this Midge Ure person.


I'm pretty sure you won't regret it...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 05, 2007, 05:51:35 PM
I did a wiki on him. What would you suggest? His solo stuff or Ultravox.

I didn't realize that he co-wrote "Do They Know It's Christmas?". I really liked that song.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 05, 2007, 06:18:27 PM
I did a wiki on him. What would you suggest? His solo stuff or Ultravox.

I didn't realize that he co-wrote "Do They Know It's Christmas?". I really liked that song.

That's a toughie...   If you were only going to buy one, I personally would go with solo --  either Answers to Nothing or Breathe.  Since you expressed an interest in the song  Just For You,  that one is on Answers to Nothing

I suppose there is a best of Ultravox out there by now so you could pick that up if you wanted to feel them out...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 08, 2007, 07:04:34 AM
uh, just had to share this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lNFRLrP014


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kitinkaboodle on November 08, 2007, 07:26:33 AM
Whoa!  Nice winklepickers!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 08, 2007, 08:17:34 AM
Whoa!  Nice winklepickers!

Careful now. Winklepicker may be construed as worthy of a green dot warning.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kitinkaboodle on November 08, 2007, 08:24:03 AM



Noted  ;D !


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 08, 2007, 11:00:26 AM
wow.  nice shoes.

Somehow I think it would have worked better if it were a song about Georgia.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 08, 2007, 04:04:09 PM
Ella in Sweden?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCsxZfQqSdA

Or Ray?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thls_tMuFkc


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 08, 2007, 07:34:08 PM
brazo means "arm" doesn't it?

we may be heading in different directions after all...   :)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on November 08, 2007, 11:10:26 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072706/plotsummary

After the death of private detective Sam Spade, his son, Sam Spade Jr. (who only knew his father very briefly) is forced to inherit his San Francisco detective agency, much to his chagrin. He also must keep his father's sarcastic secretary, Effie Perrine ("Godzilla"), and must continue his father's tradition of "serving minorities". One day, an obese man named Caspar Gutman is killed just outside Spade's building, his last words being "It's black and as long as your arm".


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on November 09, 2007, 12:28:18 AM
Dzimas, you red devil, you!

Quote
uh, just had to share this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lNFRLrP014

Now I see where I went wrong, trying to work up a discussion of Ten Days That Shook The World over in Non-Fiction as an observance of the 90th anniversary of the Revolution.  If only I'd known about THIS!

(My daughter is gonna download it for her lefty World History/Lit teacher!)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on November 09, 2007, 02:29:45 AM
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Ella in Sweden?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCsxZfQqSdA

Or Ray?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thls_tMuFkc


I like the 1966 Sweden even better: How High
the Moon.   Then take it back to the concert in Holland with Oscar Peterson,
It Don't Mean a Thing,if It Ain't Got that Swing. Doo wop a Doo wop a do,do,do

Only a little un-nerved that the Japanese video so distractingly bombed. Likewise: Angel Eyes

But, you can go back into the Fifties again through --
Dream a little dream of me.

Which was a particular favourite of mine at a time when I had yet to know much more about jazz. Dream is a ballad for adolescents. I notice with all this music that samples here are recorded about 15 years after they first became "pop tunes".  Dream is an example of that; and I must have been out of my mind when I denied to Dzimas that doo wop ala Ella developed bebop sha bop via those years.

For the very simple reason that I knew Ray Brown, and he used to sight-read my jazz-poetry by cigarette-lighter if necessary when we sat between sets (back of the piano). This way, he could check my rhythm because he was the bass player (and I had been writing to theirs).

Ah, well, more looking back for tomorrow. I feel like we found our own little jazz club in here for those only nights


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 09, 2007, 02:50:15 AM
Quote
Dzimas, you red devil, you!

The credit belongs to Ponderosa for that one.  I saw Leningrad Cowboys Go America a long time ago and was not overly impressed,

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097728/

So, I wrote them off my list, but their take on Sweet Home Alabama is inspired, to say the least.  I guess I will have to give them a second look.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 09, 2007, 02:59:31 AM
Quote
I must have been out of my mind when I denied to Dzimas that doo wop ala Ella developed bebop sha bop via those years.

I have no memory of this conversation, but enjoyed your post just the same.  Be Bop supposedly came to the fore via a relationship  between Dizzie Gillespie and Cuban musicians.  Can't remember the one in particular who is credited for inspiring Gillespie.  A Night in Havana is well worth watching and listening to,

http://www.amazon.com/Night-Havana-Dizzy-Gillespie-Cuba/dp/B00092ZT4G



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 09, 2007, 03:03:27 AM
The Finns (where Leningrad Cowboys hail from) have a sense of humor if nothing else,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PdbDNL5oqCs

Lordi surprisingly took the Eurovision title that year despite making a total mockery of the event.  The Lithuanian group, LT United, made their case well known at the event,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puka5XaVIyI

But, I prefer Jurga myself,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcAtdfadAd4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on November 09, 2007, 11:56:39 AM
Now, this morning, we get the other side of things, not the same Pop, but Current, not well reviewed in UK but out there nevertheless considering.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000WCDI6O?ie=UTF8&tag=thefirstpost-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B000WCDI6O

I hadn't the heart to listen; maybe later.  I used to enjoy 20 years ago;
so,here's what the British think re: the import. Hey, weren't these the people -- over there -- who game up with their own bloody gangsters way before gangstas.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?storyID=9479


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on November 09, 2007, 12:46:59 PM
Dzimas,

I think this may be the composition that did more re:bop and may be what you were actually thinking of --

"A Night in Tunisia". I am not finding the sample thus far. But, then there is also, Salt P'nuts,Salt P'nuts.  My husband and I used to go up and visit after the sets were finished when Dizzy was on the road in out of the way places like "home"; mostly, because having come up through the Billy Eckstine era, in fact I think this was  prior to our marriage that he was emulating the Eckstine voice.

By a simply odd coincidence,at some point before the end of the Sixties, a couple of  friends of the time, a couple who were unevenly developed musically, I mean the guy just was not getting it but he did come from Bergen county,New Jersey (whereas she originated "Uptown") so they entertained Dizzy a lot whenever he showed up. In those days, this was what was considered "safe connections". At which point, we drifted out of orbit more and more, which one has to do at times because of the head changes that take place almost spontaneously among the habituated and only get darker. Through no fault of John Birks, as he was back out of town when after-effects went down.

I think this is more the period that you remembered--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dolWWdetI


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 10, 2007, 02:33:05 AM
Like any musical genre there are defining moments, but the precedents are a little harder to track down. I saw that one musicologist was tracing back the origins of Be-bop to Swing music.  Makes sense, but then one could say the same thing about Rock and Roll.  What is interesting to me is how much groups like the Grateful Dead, the Allman Brothers and Jefferson Airplane were influenced by jazz at the time.  We all know (or at least should know) how much an influence Sun Ra and his Arkestra were on George Clinton and his funkadelic bands.  Of course, there is no discounting the influence Miles had on funk music with Bitches Brew.  The music all kind of flows together after awhile.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on November 10, 2007, 09:43:46 AM
Dzimas,

Exactly, it moves both geographically and in time.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 11, 2007, 02:17:57 PM
(http://images.buymusichere.net/images/bmh/22/72459693522.jpg)

Received the quad-pack of Nick Cave's Abattoir Blues Tour, 2 DVD's and 2 CD's.  Very impressive set.  Of course, I loved the Abattoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus CD that came out 3 years back.  But, on the live set Nick Cave adds songs from the past such as Red Right Hand,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrodaLzfi5s


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: TrojanHorse on November 13, 2007, 10:28:23 PM
Dave Mason  AND  John Mayall at the House of Blues in Anaheim last Friday...


Hoo Daddy...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 16, 2007, 03:16:47 AM
Nice to see John Mayall still around.  Speaking of Eric Clapton connections, I've been enjoying J.J. Cale's The Road to Escondido very much.  Rewind looks good too.  A little blast from the past:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8uk7vlk0sE&feature=related


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on November 16, 2007, 11:30:47 AM
Dzimas,

Pardone moi, but do you know the origins of this song? Just curious, as you appear to have extensive  knowledge and collection. I do not recall if even Scorsese covered this in his televised series:Jazz   (perhaps should more aptly have been titled, origins of...)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 18, 2007, 12:37:46 PM
You mean "Call Me the Breeze?"  As far as I know, J.J. Cale wrote it.  Of course, Lynyrd Skynyrd made it famous.  As to what Cale may have based it on is anyone's guess. 

Scorsese covered The Blues, maddy.  Interesting series with Wim Wenders, Clint Eastwood, Charles Burnett and others all doing individual episodes for the series.  Scorsese was executive producer and did the lead episode.  Lots of great archival footage but somehow the series seemed a little flat to me.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on November 19, 2007, 11:58:58 AM
Scorese ADDRESSED the blues...whether or not he covered it is a matter of debate. A nice start though.

Speaking of blues....and for lulu and others...the current ish of Blues Review has an good and complimentart article on one of our faves....Hans Theessink.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 21, 2007, 09:25:39 AM
Well, yea, it certainly wasn't the definitive set of documentaries on The Blues.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on November 23, 2007, 11:37:26 AM
I don't know quite what to think of the mammoth Pink Floyd box set that has come out for the holidays,

http://www.amazon.com/Oh-Way-Box-Set-16/dp/B000X1LH6C/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195835691&sr=1-6

I like PF as much as the next guy, but there are only 4 or 5 CDs I would really want to have, among them the recent re-release of The Piper at the Gates of Dawn,

http://www.amazon.com/Piper-at-Gates-Dawn/dp/B000T05R8Q/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195835691&sr=1-8


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on November 27, 2007, 08:07:50 AM
jacobs:

Will have to pick up that issue; just recently listened to Theessink.  Will have to play more.

Also been listening to Shaver, who's been played a lot on my Americana music station on cable.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on November 28, 2007, 09:26:24 AM
lulu and others...other great names to check out Julie Lee and Lauren Sheehan.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on November 28, 2007, 06:35:17 PM
Jacobs:

Great, great article on Theessink.  Loved it and will certainly buy his new cd.  Great to see him recognized in a magazine.  Thanks.

Am listening to the wonderful Maddy Prior "Tapestry of Carols" cassette you made for me and the cd of which I just ordered from amazon.  I already have the Loreena McKennett Christmas cd which you put together on that magical cassette.  I'm amazed this tape hasn't worn out from constant playing.  Exquisite music, indeed.  But you already know that.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on November 28, 2007, 07:01:16 PM
Jacobs

http://www.theessink.com/en/

Theessink's web site with lyrics to his new CD.  Check out the song called "Katrina."


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on November 29, 2007, 09:32:38 AM
Jacobs:

Quick!  Get over to the classical forum; they are discussing early music there.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on December 05, 2007, 07:38:44 PM
Jacobs:

I just heard a cut from Gloryland by Anonymous 4 with Darol Anger and Mike Marshall and I was taken with it. It's a very unusual album because their voices don't seem to belong to American roots music but it did sound lovely.  And I'm really tempted to get it.  Really tempted, indeed.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on December 06, 2007, 10:12:51 AM
Anon 4 with Anger and Marshall? Do they really know how to get rootsy? I heard their take on Sacred Harp Music, and, to say the least, was underwhelmed.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on December 10, 2007, 09:24:16 AM
Jacobs:

It was pretty singing but no Carter Family if you know what I mean.

Been listening to Elana James and must get her new cd.  What a find.  Her version of an unknown Dylan song (unknown to me) One More Night is wonderful.  Haven't heard other cuts but this one is enough to get me going.

Also Last Train Home is a great group.

But Elana James excites me as did Kasey Chambers when I first heard her.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on December 10, 2007, 10:46:37 AM
Beautiful and rootsy are not always a good match.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on December 13, 2007, 04:50:17 AM
I suppose it is middle age, but I find myself yearning for Dino, Sinatra and Sammy Davis, Jr. these days.  Seems the Rat Pack never falls out of style.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on December 13, 2007, 08:52:13 PM
Part middle age, part the release of George Mitchell's report on steroid abuse in major league baseball, part disgust with the overall greed and lust for power in sports, I'm yearning for a little Simon and Garfunkel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1dz6_u2JI


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on December 13, 2007, 08:59:39 PM
From the man who brought us "City of New Orleans"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xBxZGQ1dJk


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on December 14, 2007, 04:02:02 AM
Yea, Mitchell's report is damning to say the least, and one wondered why Clemens was able to keep going so long. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2F0qC1-sa0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: pugetopolis on December 14, 2007, 04:27:26 AM

Two Penny Opera

Some great lyrics, dzimas!

http://forums.escapefromelba.com/index.php/topic,190.msg55092.html#msg55092


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on December 14, 2007, 04:47:54 AM
The Tiger Lillies,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7P2xTxCS_Q


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on December 14, 2007, 04:48:26 AM
Yea, Mitchell's report is damning to say the least, and one wondered why Clemens was able to keep going so long. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2F0qC1-sa0

That's a version I had never seen. Thanks.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on December 16, 2007, 07:45:07 PM
Dan Fogelberg has passed away from  cancer at 56


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on December 17, 2007, 03:55:51 AM
It is too bad about Fogelberg, but he has been off my radar screen for quite sometime. This is about all I remember of him,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhjYbfK9vrk&feature=related


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on December 17, 2007, 02:20:27 PM
Didnt' know his music intimately but respected him. Tragic to see cancer claim yet another...this from two time cancer survivor....so far.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on December 18, 2007, 04:39:58 AM
Here's another group that caught my ear,

(http://www.zeenz.nl/images/uploads/dresdendolls.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAnyYTjjhJ0


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on December 19, 2007, 01:50:59 AM
http://www.retort.brentley.com/retort.htm

Try this one, Dzima.

As you will note, on the left of the video box is a little picture of Condi and Bush in flagrante delicto (WHICH actually does not mean what we have always thought it meant) but it is simply there as a picture to encourage you to press the button for the musical rendition on video.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on December 19, 2007, 02:15:24 AM
On second thought, here's something else that might interest you.

http://www.fontainebleauschools.org/

I was surprised to learn that  Nadia Boulanger, who spent part of WW2 in Princeton, was a teacher of Donald Byrd's(likewise, Quincy Jones).


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on December 21, 2007, 10:00:19 AM
Get your sexy on:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SkBGSNGmTJc

A raved up and wonderful version of One Night In Bangkok.

Merry Christmas!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on December 23, 2007, 04:10:15 PM
Someone mentioned the Tiger Lillies?  Ah.  A friend sent me Shockheaded Peter and I fell over laughing till tears came streaming down my cheeks.  He also sent me the Gorey End.  Deliciously wicked, both.

I did go to NYC to see Shockheaded Peter but upon returning I found out a very dear friend had passed that weekend and I cannot think about Shockheaded Peter without thinking of bobbsey.  So when I listen to it it's with a bittersweet feeling, albeit very funny.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on December 24, 2007, 02:48:13 AM
  So when I listen to it it's with a bittersweet feeling, albeit very funny.

I don't think the Tiger Lillies would have it any other way.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on December 27, 2007, 09:11:32 AM
jacobs:

On a Billy Joe Shaver binge: Victory (my favorite); Tramp on Your Street; Restless Wind.  Can't seem to find Electric Shaver, which I also love.  Still have to get his tribute album.  And Hans Theessink's Call Me.  As you know, great listening.

Hope your holiday was wonderful and special.

Great listening everyone for the new year.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on December 28, 2007, 02:53:19 PM
Great listening there, lulu....recent new listen for me was Patty Griffin, Children running through". Some great stuff! Now listening to Ricky Skaggs with Bruce Hornsby..also great.

Good holidays here...even though grandkids are 500 mis. away.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on December 30, 2007, 03:19:06 AM
Unable to find any soundtrack for McCabe and Mrs. Miller, I found Cohen's songs on Songs of Leonard Cohen,

(http://www.musicbox-online.com/images/songs-of-leonard-cohen.jpg)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on December 30, 2007, 01:56:10 PM
His lyrics made him one of the qualified Canadian poets. It's hard to define at this late date, or rather that many years have elapsed since I first heard his work but he was a great favorite with me as it was about that period when I discovered the Canadian Jewish population of males apparently produced more talented genius of a wiggy,wacky sort, closer to Frenchmen in that regard.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on December 30, 2007, 05:30:51 PM
jacobs:

I signed up with Rhapsody and I love it.  Am listening to Inside Dave Von Ronk and this guy was a giant who recently died (this year? last year?). Anyone who ever saw him will never forget him.  He's singing He Was a Friend of Mine, and we know Judy did a beautiful version of this song.

I was listening to Woody's Children and the last song was this one sung as a tribute to Dave and Eric Von Schmidt.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on December 31, 2007, 01:02:55 AM
Happy New Year, Lulu!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on December 31, 2007, 02:30:31 PM
lulu--rhapsody is a great resource indeed. Lots in the data bank and great for cross referencing. I like to search by track and that way find unknown groups doing the sort of music I love. For example, if you search for Born Under  a Bad Sign, new blues groups will appear.  Or if you search for "saltarello" all sorts of early music groups.

But over all if there is a weakness in rhapsody, it is in the area of classical music.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on January 01, 2008, 11:36:25 PM
It's great for opera; it has the Met Opera broadcast archives.  I don't think it's complete yet but will be.  And there are not as many versions of opera as I would like but for opera it's great.

I'm amazed at what it has, although it doesn't have Tom Lehrer!  But it's a great resource channel.

My tv is busted and I need to get a new one so I don't have my opera/classical/Americana channels but folk/alternative music/americana music is all over the net, including WXPN in Philly, 24-7 contemporary and traditional music, which is where I ran across And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda sung by Priscilla Herdman.  Do you know anything about Eric Bogle, who wrote the song?

I need to get a dvd player that can play dvds from around the world as well as the US.  Does anyone have one?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on January 02, 2008, 03:11:58 AM
It is called a region-free player and yes they are available,

http://www.onlinesupplystore.com/Product.asp?id=45392&ADTR=1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on January 05, 2008, 01:28:34 AM
I left a good job in the city, working for the man every night and day, but I never saw the good side of the city until I hitched a ride on the Riverboat Queen.  I thought to myself:  "Big wheel keep on turning, proud mary keep on burning, rolling, rolling, rolling on the river."

Water, baby, sweet water.  Have you ever seen the rain?  Who will stop the rain?  Coming down on a sunny day?  Aw, don't do that baby.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on January 05, 2008, 01:48:48 AM
Move upside and let the man go through.

To rise, to rise, rise...

Chump change, and it's on...

Am I the phono?, I live in fear, sheer chance will draw you into here...

Super bon bon bon bon.





Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on January 07, 2008, 05:43:37 PM
Just got and greatly enjoying the latest release from Kane Welch and Kaplan: http://www.amazon.com/Kane-Welch-Kaplin-Kieran/dp/B000UYT8WW/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1199736821&sr=1-1

A fitting sequel to their brilliant Lost John Dean:
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-John-Dean-Kieran-Kane/dp/B000ERU7IO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1199736892&sr=1-4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on January 13, 2008, 04:59:12 AM
I have to say I'm really getting into the whole Tiger Lilies experience.  Shockheaded Peter is great!

http://www.shockheadedpeter.com/

I even bought a copy of the original Struwwelpeter, which has many more grisly tales for gruesome children. 

I'm beginning to think one can never have too much of the Tiger Lilies,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrGspR0yQo&feature=related



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on January 14, 2008, 05:45:35 PM
Dzimas,
Are you familiar with the Klaus Nomi, that the first poster  mentions following the You-Tube?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on January 15, 2008, 08:58:00 AM
No, maddy, but he looks and sounds very interesting,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_A6IR58Htg


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on January 15, 2008, 02:47:03 PM
This is my favourite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDfawihUkQA

I first found out about him in a little film, full-length, which demonstrated just how creative he was, designing exactly the costume,etc. working with a crewe of rather rough guys just friends. And you know, I think he performed this number quite possibly pre-Bowie?

I always feel this is his signature film. Somewhere about 2/3rds in, the shot in the phone book gives me a little shock as I recognize the profile resembles my childhood dance-teacher Florence West.

In your posted selection, it is notable that as an artist, he was sensitive to the particular hall-marks called for when performing in the theatrical styles of older periods of theatre history.  Just how to pace your entrance  to the orchestra's introduction. The appropriate moment to accent the passage with a raise of his head. The control of his eyes suggesting exactly what? (toward the end of: You Don't Own Me) It most closely resembles the  rather challenging command of the artist that I am looking to you to praise me, to applaud me, and you (as he directs his eyes), and you (yet again).

There is also the ending of the performance in your post, where the long shot reveals, his exact placement of his feet and limbs descending the dais as his exit while the lights dim (in effect, his curtain).

This exactitude in every aspect of his work is why almost every viewer refers to him as an "artist".


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on January 17, 2008, 12:34:17 PM
current nytimes sunday mag has a decent article of Shelby Lynneand her new disc dedicated to Dusty Sringfield songs.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on January 28, 2008, 05:32:31 AM
Not much music in these forums these days.  Thought I would share this,

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on January 28, 2008, 07:55:18 AM
yes, don't worry. be happy. ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on January 29, 2008, 06:57:31 AM
Great piece, ponderosa!  One of my favorite movies.  Eric Idle almost looked like Roger Daltry in that scene.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on January 29, 2008, 07:24:55 AM
I couldn't overcome my tempation for this beautiful box set,

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EHENS86AL._SS500_.jpg)

a veritable cornucopia of delights.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on January 29, 2008, 08:20:29 AM
Was at a Dead show back in the 80's. Guy walks up and starts dancing with this woman who had been dancing the night away in front of me and my buds. During a break she asks him...

"What's your name?"

"Emerson."

"Emerson?"

"'Em er some nice titties ya got there."


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on January 30, 2008, 02:19:11 AM
these folks performed some at a luncheon hoo-hah today and handed out this disc as well. quite soothing stuff.

http://www.conspirare.org/cd2007-requiem.htm


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on January 30, 2008, 04:47:54 AM
One of Lithuania's former Eurovision entrants, Aiste Smilgeviciute, turning to updated folk a la the Fairport Convention,

(http://klub.posluh.hr/dora/1999/LitvaV.jpg)

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=0QHv3OaCwuE&feature=related


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on January 30, 2008, 04:48:33 PM
I gave the new Shelby Lynne disc covering Dusty Springfield a listen and was very impressed.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on February 01, 2008, 12:23:29 AM
i like to laugh but somedays it just hurts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V70Fk_SDG4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 02, 2008, 01:55:00 AM
Where have all the flowers gone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhlOJm9nkwM


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on February 02, 2008, 06:31:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG6PufL6JN4


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on February 02, 2008, 08:33:28 PM
Thanks much for that, ponderosa.  Did anything in particular bring it to your mind?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on February 03, 2008, 06:52:33 AM
Thanks much for that, ponderosa.  Did anything in particular bring it to your mind?

Ah, but were it only one particular thing.  :-\

Don't remember if it was the paper, a blog, or the tv news, but MLK's "Injustice anywhere is a threat everywhere..." came up. I thought Mr. Burke (or whoever wrote the piece) did justice (pardon da pun, if it actually is one) to the meaning behind the phrase.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on February 03, 2008, 07:06:38 AM
How 'bout I lighten it up a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMJcQBJPcpA


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on February 04, 2008, 10:26:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY&3


it was made independently of the campaign—by Bob Dylan's son, director Jesse Dylan, and musician will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on February 04, 2008, 01:23:57 PM
Try some music by the wonderful Mavis Staples to go along with the Soloman Burke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIa8pq8Pr6c

There is a lot more from Mavis where that came from. She walked the walk and lived the life, along with her late-father, Pops Staples.





Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 05, 2008, 05:04:18 AM
Really have enjoyed Mavis' recent CD,

http://www.amazon.com/Well-Never-Turn-Mavis-Staples/dp/B000MR8SZU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1202205806&sr=1-1

a great look back on the long road she has taken.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 05, 2008, 07:04:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY&3


it was made independently of the campaign—by Bob Dylan's son, director Jesse Dylan, and musician will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas.

I saw Herbie Hancock in there.  It has been a long time since I was really excited by a presidential campaign, but there is so much electricty in Obama's campaign, I can feel it all the way over here.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on February 05, 2008, 03:13:31 PM
 Dzimas...I am in total agreement with BOTH of your posts!

:D


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 06, 2008, 04:49:29 AM
Yea, cincy and maddy and ponderosa, it is a great day for American politics! Would have liked to see Obama take California, but he looks very good coming out of Super Tuesday.  Not surprising that he has captured the imagination of musicians like Dylan and Will.i.am.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on February 06, 2008, 09:56:54 AM
... it is a great day for American politics!

t-h-i-s-d-o-e-s-n-o-t-c-o-m-p-u-t-e  ;)

(http://100megsfree3.com/glaw/robby/robby2.jpg)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on February 06, 2008, 11:45:10 AM
I was hoping that Obama would really deliver a stronger blow and take Mass and Cal. But he still made a good showing that has the potential for taking him all the way.  His tragectory is still on the upswing...he simply has not yet closed the deal.

Listening to Kila...Luna Park...what an incredible disc!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 07, 2008, 11:41:50 PM
The Times They Are A Changing,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ_XwLSN45I


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 11, 2008, 02:50:16 AM
I see Amy mopped up at the Grammys,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080211/ap_on_en_mu/grammys

If she is going to lose to anyone, I can't think of a more accomplished artist than Herbie Hancock, although I have yet to listen to The Joni Letters.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on February 11, 2008, 08:46:32 PM
Well, if politics gets in, I am all for Edwards and still am.  I am furious that the press has anointed Hillary and Billary and Obama as the chosen ones and ignored anyone else stupidenough to run even though they had more ideas, etc.  (Edwards, Dodd, Biden).  I never got the chance to vote as did millions of other disenfranchised voters.  It will be a cold day in hell before I vote for Hilary and I might just write in Edwards' name; if I can't, I won't vote.  I voted miserably for John Kerry and he wasn't worth my vote.  I resent the media making the choice for me.  Fuck 'em.  The Dems are still spineless and weak.  Let the GOP mention terror and they will flee with their tails between their legs (despite the fact that the GOP has made this country less safe).

My preference is for a large Democratic congress able to override the president whoever he may be.  Hilary will not get us out of Iraq and nor will she bring back the draft.  How many times do the same troops have to go over there over and over again.  I'm waiting for them to say "Hell no, we won't go."  Hilary is too chicken to mention the "D" word as more and more people who want this war to end are bringing up.

As for Grammies, who cares?  All the nominees are performers I don't know or don't give a shit about.  The good stuff doesn't get broadcast.  We live in a dumbed down nation with dumbed down music.  Heaven forbid a classical artist should appear live.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 12, 2008, 03:21:27 AM
What bug crawled up your ass, lulu?  I'd hardly call Herbie Hancock chopped liver. 

I would think you would be excited that Alison Krauss won a Grammy with Robert Plant on Gone, Gone, Gone.
Joni Mitchell also won a Grammy for One Week Last Summer.
Springsteen took home three Grammys, two for Radio Nowhere.

Anyway, here is a complete listing,

http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/





Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 12, 2008, 04:06:32 AM
Just when you thought you would never hear some of these songs again,

The World's Cheesiest Love Song Playlist
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/yradish/2693/the-worlds-cheesiest-love-song-playlist

I have to admit to liking Could It Be Magic at one time.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 12, 2008, 06:57:51 AM
On a more sublime note, Lithuania's most promising new artist, Alina Orlova,

(http://www.panele.lt/var/panele/storage/images/media/images/alina_orlova_18/117303-1-lit-LT/alina_orlova_18_large.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDSKUhqOZI8&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7FmsNQyNOs&feature=related


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on February 12, 2008, 05:15:23 PM
Hola Dzimas,

The World's Cheesiest Love Song Playlist

Funny; I didn't know that Paul Davis (the guy who sang "I Go Crazy") was so hirsute.

I have to admit to liking Could It Be Magic at one time.

It was based on an old classical work (I forget which one so I looked it up; something by Chopin, apparently), so you're on safer territory than you realized....

Dzimas, did you get the latest Charlie Gillett compilation?  I got it for Christmas but just got around to it; pretty good.  Needs another listen though.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 13, 2008, 12:27:26 AM
Great to see you, grobin!  I will be sending a copy of the new Alina Orlova CD to Gillett.  I think he will enjoy her.  I was stunned to find out she is only 16.  It is a youthful voice but her lyrics are wonderful and the way she has arranged her album shows a musical sense far beyond her years.  I haven't been getting his compilations as of late, opting for CD's of the artists I like from his shows.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on February 14, 2008, 03:55:02 PM
Hey Dzimas, I'll have to check her out. Her music, I mean. 

I've been kind of busy with things, so I haven't done much on the music front.  Got some mix discs from friends, the new Gillett compilation and the latest Radiohead...that sort of thing.  I bought it at the store instead of downloading it for free.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on February 14, 2008, 10:26:38 PM
On a little trip down nostalgia lane, grobin, I picked up this CBGB compilation,

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Story-CBGB-Home-Punk/dp/B000HDZAOQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1203045826&sr=1-1

My son quickly appropriated it.  He's into Iggy Pop these days, and the whole punk scene.  What comes around goes around, as they say.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on February 18, 2008, 07:36:52 AM
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=17871

The writer of this piece is a copywriter who won a Gold at Cannes, essentially this is a review of  the construction of a short political advertisement as a musical composition done as performance art.

He was the executive creative director and vice chairman of Ogilvy & Mather for seven years and the executive creative director of the EHS Brann group.

 Related Links
 John McCain: No, You Can't
A parody of the Obama film pokes fun at his rival

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?filmID=938


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on February 25, 2008, 09:02:34 PM
Jacobs:

Have you heard Carrie Newcomer?  I'm listening to her on Rhapsody and she's wonderful.  I read a review of a concert she gave in DC recently which was wonderful so I looked her up.  She's a keeper and I'm off to get her records.  (You probably have heard of her, I bet).  What a great voice.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on February 26, 2008, 03:28:51 PM
lulu--I have one of her older discs but haven't kept up on her. Maybe her new stuff is better and I will check it out. Based on what I do have id rate her more of a B list performer.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on February 29, 2008, 10:52:10 PM
In the "Blue Oyster Cult" classic "Burning For You," the artist suggests that he has sold his soul to the devil in order to fill the arena and play loud rock music while stoned and drunk for the audience; additionally, the chicks in the audience who are hot should get the message that the lead singer (or drummer) on down has "the hots," i.e., "is 'burning'," to engage in intercourse which he will barely remember if at all; the third possibility is that the artist is saying "I am smoking all this grass and travelling around and have made this deal with the devil and having sex with these women" for you; or having exchanged fame and the assurance of sex with hot women, he is literally having to "burn one" for the Devil, i.e., Satan, having sold his soul for rock and roll and if he has to have ETERNAL DAMNATION, that he might want to BURN one, FOR YOU.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on February 29, 2008, 10:54:51 PM
Or maybe he is a BURNOUT, because he sold his soul to the devil, so he should probably "burn" one before he takes the stage, if he's going to hell anyway, and Satan had promised him fame and pu$$y.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: NoneoftheAbove on March 05, 2008, 08:07:00 PM
Hi Jbottle,

Good to see you. They're missing you over at NYT (gin and tonic just isn't doing it for them any more).

Quote
Satan had promised him fame and pu$$y.

Hey, Satan sounds a lot like Allah, making all those promises and all....



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on March 05, 2008, 08:23:10 PM
Apropos of just about nothing, Blue Oyster Cult played the Milford Oyster Festival a few years back.  The big name for the day is always a has-been oldie-ish band, ie Jefferson Starship.  The local evangelical church guy got all up in arms and organized a protest to keep these Satanists from playing a family venue -- never mind that downtown Milford becomes a mass of sweaty, often drunk humanity by the end of the day.  There was a lot of controversy-debate- what have you about the lyrics of  Don't Fear the Reaper and Burning for You (which I always thought was more VD-oriented than Satanic, but what do I know?).  But the money had been paid out, and the band -- a bunch of middle-aged, paunchy, very nice guys from Lawn Gisland --  showed up at the appointed hour on the appointed day and played their tunes, and the town is still standing. Personally, I think They We Built This City was probably more damaging to hear than anything BOC could cook up.


Title: Credit where credit is due...
Post by: NoneoftheAbove on March 05, 2008, 08:42:54 PM
Quote
They Built This City was probably more damaging to hear than anything ...

Can't argue with the damaging part, but wasn't it "WE" (not THEY) who "built this city"? Noone to blame but ourselves...

Used to hang out at the Airplane's pad on Oak St in SF in the late 60s, so that starship crap always rubbed me the wrong way.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on March 05, 2008, 08:51:12 PM
Correct you are, None.  Thanks for the catch.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on March 06, 2008, 04:18:27 PM
"Burning for You" is the #1 all time song for burners and burnouts.  Potheads love "Burning for You."  It's like Blue Oyster Cult was offering to burn for them which is awesome but then they are like, thanks for offering to "burn for [me]," but "with all due respect, BOC, I will take it from here..." 

Harrie:  I think that the line "I'm livin' for givin' the devil his due..." speaks for why they burn (because they have sold their souls for rock and roll) and then the only question is "Who is 'you'," which could be the audience, the devil, or by offering up in sacrifice the concept of "I have to do this because you want your rock stars being fried...even when you can't be..." it's the "you" meaning "everything but me, and I'm burning..." 

So that's why they "burn out the day" and "burn out the night," they literally never quit burning.  It's like keeping the stoner torch light on for "you," and in keeping with ordinary rock/blues/satan mythology while high.

I was listening to the Boston song "More than a Feeling" on the way home from work (really, I like that song even if it's kind of turned into self-parody), and I started to think "Yeah I'd rather be in the band 'Boston' than 'Chicago,'" because of the horn section, and because even if they only made three albums or whatever it was a pretty good, if ultimately disappointing, run.  I tried to think of other bands named after cities, heard a good one from the Atlanta Rythym Section (is that right?) the other day but forget the name.  I end up listening to bad terrestrial radio because I would rather indulge in random nostalgia or amusement rather than something programmed to be like other songs I like.  I know I would enjoy satellite, but I still like listening to radio stations that appeal to a wide listening audience, because they end up playing songs that were once very popular.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on March 08, 2008, 06:44:30 AM
I don't know whether Diana Krall constitutes jazz or pop, but I got the chance to see her last night in Vilnius.  We were given tickets to her performance as part of an Independence Day celebration.  She seems to have developed a huskier voice over the years, but then maybe it was a cold that was getting to her as she had to blow her nose continuously through the show.  She was quite chatty, apologizing for her runny nose, noting how honored she was to be playing for Independence Day, mentioning her 15-month-old twins were with Elvis Costello in Liverpool, etc.  It had the feeling more of a nightclub with the piano player on an off night filling in with engaging repartee.  Given that most of the persons in the audience didn't understand a word she was saying didn't seem to matter, she got applause just the same.  She covered a few Nat King Cole songs along and with a hand full of others over a span of an hour and a half.  It was pleasant if not overly satisfying.  Her bassist, John Clayton, was in fine form, leading off on a couple of Blues numbers.  She capped off the evening with S'Wonderful.  Anyway, it was nice to see her in the flesh.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on March 08, 2008, 11:16:28 PM
BOC is burning so that you don't have to, but you still can if you want to burn one, but have no doubt that they are getting high and burning, because they sold their souls to the devil, so that even if you aren't high on pot, they get to play rock music for a living before eternal damnation while stoned.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on March 09, 2008, 04:56:05 AM
The Starship crap actually started well before the pop tripe."Blows Against the Empire" from 1970 is really the first Jefferson Starship album and one of the seminal albums of the era.It started out as an Airplane album that Kanter took in another direction.It has artists from Airplane,CSN,the Dead and Quicksilver Messenger Service.Possibly the best album ever to play while doing Windowpane.Sunfighter was a follow up but I think it just had Kanter/Slick as the artist and then Baron Von Tollbooth and the Chrome Nun followed.It was after this the pop version of Starship came about. There was another album under Jefferson Airplane "Thirty Seconds Over Winterland" that came out in 73? that was pretty much the kind of music the Starship lineup was doing at the time.Jorma and Hot Tuna also put out an album or two at the time that was interchangeable


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on March 09, 2008, 05:01:31 AM
I forgot to mention the whole era of these great Starship/Airplane type albums wound up in 1974 with Jorma's "Quah" a classic acid/folk acoustic album.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on March 10, 2008, 03:11:42 AM
Well, you know, you have to change with the times.  Bob Dylan hasn't exactly stuck to his roots either.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on March 10, 2008, 04:03:23 AM
If people are still worried about the message BOC is sending out after all these years, they have to do a reality check. I don't see a significant portion of our population given over to Satanism as a result of "Don't Fear the Reaper."  I mean if you are going to go after such dubious lyrics, what about the Eagles' "Hotel California."



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: harrie on March 10, 2008, 12:13:58 PM
If people are still worried about the message BOC is sending out after all these years, they have to do a reality check. I don't see a significant portion of our population given over to Satanism as a result of "Don't Fear the Reaper."  I mean if you are going to go after such dubious lyrics, what about the Eagles' "Hotel California."

Maybe they think it's about a lovely little B&B, I don't know.  But I was able to find a reference -
http://bgb.malibulist.com/archives/2004/08/dont_fear_the_s.html


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on March 10, 2008, 09:42:09 PM
Dzimas and Harrie, Try this one (not necessarily together, of course)

http://www.chateaumarmont.com/

Anyway, I thought the Starship,Gracie Slick was apropo to the era but also glad that time is past.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on March 10, 2008, 09:43:49 PM
This is what I actually came to drop off.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/

Rock Against Clapton


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on March 11, 2008, 04:16:32 AM
Eastern Europe has become a bit of an Old Folks Home for aging pop stars who no longer have much star power back in Britain and the US.  People here still remember them for their glory years, listening to bootleg copies during the Soviet era.  Even if they sound a bit ragged as the Scorpions did the last time they were in Vilnius.  But probably the most interesting was a recent ELO concert, with only one remaining member of the original group.  It was fun, but a pale cousin to the old days.  The most amazing thing is that these groups sell out 15,000 seat auditoriums.

Meanwhile young Lithuanians are trying to create something new in the way of folk and rock, but aren't getting much play on television.  I hear about these groups mostly through our oldest daughter.  They've cut CD's and some of them are very good.  I set one to Charlie Gillet last year, but don't know if he ever played it.  They hark back to the 70s folk scene in Britain. 

Along the same vein, I picked up a CD of Hem,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQrH9w8VM4

and the Hank Dogs recently.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 11, 2008, 09:02:15 PM
Along the same vein, I picked up a CD of Hem,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQrH9w8VM4


Sweet sound. Thanks for that.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on March 12, 2008, 12:15:15 PM
Thought you would enjoy it, ponderosa.  Haven't been able to find much of the Hank Dogs off the 'Net.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 12, 2008, 12:18:39 PM
Yeah, well, I am pretty much a skaredy kat. :o


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jbottle on March 12, 2008, 05:39:35 PM
"I don't see a significant portion of our population given over to Satanism as a result of 'Don't Fear the Reaper.'"

STEP OFF, DUDE, we are out there, but it has less to do with Satan than you think, I'm just saying, don't start talking about shit you know nothing about.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on March 14, 2008, 11:47:59 AM
Burnzy, catching any acts at SXSW? 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 14, 2008, 01:13:04 PM
Nah, it's too crowded. I don't go there anymore  :-\ (apologies to Yogi).

Will be going to see The Sadies tonite. It's outdoors, free, and no wristband/tix/handstamp/secret code required. Eliza Gilkyson and the Bodeans follow up the Canucks.

How you?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on March 14, 2008, 04:24:07 PM
No complaints here.  Busy. 

Yeah, it does seem to be getting lots of recognition.  I first heard of it via stations like WXPN and KCRW; now BBC goes on about it.  I heard Van the Man put on a great show recently.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 14, 2008, 05:12:53 PM
I spent a lot of time at SXSW events back in the day. It's become a monster. Ain't just nationwide anymore. It's global.

I've been listening to WXPN for a few months. I like it. Very similar to our KGSR.

I better start gettin' ready. Parking could be an issue. Laterz and tomaterz.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 15, 2008, 11:07:29 AM
"Youneverknow." Joaquin Andujar

Not entirely enchanting nor ecclesiastically enthusing but an enjoyable evening nonetheless.

The Sadies were their usual rockin' billy spaghetti-westernly selves. Ms. Gilkyson a nice mellow interlude and the BoDeans a great finish. Met up with a friend halfway thru and I accompanied him and his brother down to see Billy Joe Shaver at another outdoor venue (coffee shop patio). Met up with some other old friends I hadn't seen in a while. Proceeded into the belly of the SXSW beast and paraded with the revelers. Wasn't permitted entrance to but stood within earshot of two thirds of the original Blue Cheer and cheered my favorite version of "Summertime Blues". Spent an hour or so people watchin' to wrap up the day. Nice.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bosox18d on March 20, 2008, 02:35:27 AM
I found my Rascals "Time Peace" The Rascals Greatest Hits today and put it on.I'm surprised how well almost all the songs hold up.The only one that gets me is "A Girl Like You' which sounds like a Partridge Family song."Groovin" is simply one of the best pop songs of all time.But there is a Kenny Rankin version that I have somewhere that is totally different and just as good.I can't recall the albums name but it was produced by Don Costa who did some Sinatra albums.I find the Turtles songs hold up well also but then some pop bands from that stripe and era like the Grassroots  and especially Paul Revere and the Raiders only hold up on some of their songs.Tommy James also holds up well.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on March 21, 2008, 09:14:53 AM
Burnzy,

Sounds like a good time.

An audible groan on your tagline.

This is kind of sad:  http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/21/people.beachboyssuit.ap/index.html

Brian Wilson was the creative force behind the Beach Boys, and Love and Jardine were fighting over the scraps (i.e. the name).  Mike Love and some studio musicians don't make the Beach Boys (Bruce Johnston might be in the group, but he wasn't an original member.)

On another note, there's a British world music magazine called Songlines.  It's pretty good.  Anyway, they put out their 50th issue, and is the case with such things, are celebrating the 50 most important moments in world music.  Yes, an utterly contrived list.  Anyway, any idea what the #1 moment was?  Hint: it involves an American musician. 

Some others include...
#2 - Bulgarian Voices released
#3 the first Womad
#15 George Harrison plays sitar
#16 - the One Love Peace Concert (where Bob Marley got the two opposition candidates to shake hands on stage)
#19 (my personal favorite) - Kronos Qurtet begin Pieces of Africa




Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 21, 2008, 10:13:09 AM
Hmmm... My first guess would be Carlos Santana. Even though he was born in Mexico he is considered an American musician. How about The Tokens with "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". Paul Simon with either Graceland or The Rhythm of the Saints? How many guesses do I get? Louis Armstrong? He did take jazz to the world, no?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on March 21, 2008, 02:56:56 PM
Burnzy, thy third guess is correct - Paul Simon goes to South Africa.  Good on you, mate.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 21, 2008, 05:39:37 PM
Took me a few minutes but it's the obvious choice.

Have a safe and happy Easter weekend.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on March 28, 2008, 07:06:56 AM
I have to imagine Ravi Shankar teaching George Harrison the sitar should be part of #15, as Shankar was a big influence on the Beatles. 

Some defining moments in world music to me would be Miriam Makeba and Harry Belafonte putting out some memorable songs together; Fela Kuti teaming up with Roy Ayers; Ry Cooder with Ali Farka Toure; Mickey Hart with Baba Olatunji, although Baba had already played with many jazz legends including Max Roach; Simon with Ladysmith Black Mambazo, and also the Zimbabwe concert in which he sang with Miriam Makeba, Nusrat Fatah Ali Khan and Eddie Vedder together on the Dead Man Walking CD, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page's No Quarter album with a truly inspiring version of Kashmir with an Egyptian Ensemble, Musicians in Marrakech and the London Metropolitan Orchestra.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 28, 2008, 08:05:51 AM
Might hafta hunt down a copy of that there mag.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on March 31, 2008, 11:34:07 PM
flashback --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZFy9vcDFrA


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 05, 2008, 08:19:44 AM
Rockin' version of Pachelbel's Canon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUNmLuNdiL8


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: lulu on April 08, 2008, 09:47:15 AM
Jacobs:

Shelby Lynn has been in the news.  Nice review by Stephen Holden in the Times.  I've heard her new cd is good; I'll check it out on Rhapsody.  She also appeared in Falls Church which I failed to attend since I missed reading about it in the Post.  I should read the Post if only for the entertainment section.

Bravo to Dylan for an Honorary Pulitizer?  Not sure why "honorary" but I'm glad to see his finally recognized for his brilliant lyrics.

Am listening to Don Henley a lot, especially End of the Innocence, a wonderful album.

Pisses me off that the latest Eagles album has to be bought at Walmart.  Hell will freeze over before I enter that store.  Their cds are blocked from Rhapsody.  I can't even buy the album on Rhapsody.  At least let their cds be available on amazon.  I love Henley and I love the Eagles.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: cincy--man on April 15, 2008, 01:49:05 PM
OTIS TAYLOR--RECAPTURING THE BANJO

http://www.amazon.com/Recapturing-Banjo-Otis-Taylor/dp/B0010VD7FS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1208281688&sr=1-1


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on April 24, 2008, 09:39:01 AM
Beatle fans may have heard that May Pang just came out with a book of photos from her period with John Lennon.  Two particularly interesting photos:  John and Paul in LA, sitting on an outside couch and chatting, around 1974.  Paul has a moustache and mullet; John is wearing his shades and a mac. There's another photo (not in the book) of them with Keith Moon, Harry Nilsson, and maybe Ringo, and I think those are the only two photos of John and Paul together after the split. 

The second photo is of John signing the agreement to end the Beatles' partnership. 

Non-Beatle fans may not care.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 24, 2008, 05:31:03 PM
Non-Beatle fans may not care.

Screw 'em.

Here's a li'l Ringo and Harry and stuff.

http://fortheloveofharry.blogspot.com/2008/03/ringo-harry-davy-i-love-my-suit-simple.html




Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 25, 2008, 09:55:10 AM
Happy Friday you crazy fearless diamonds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qbGfbBFw8Q



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kitinkaboodle on April 25, 2008, 10:12:48 AM
  Pondy~~

Really nice and sweetly appropriate regarding recent posts over in meander.

And a funny coincidence -- was just discussing this recently.  The cheers?  Soccer game -- who are the fans cheering? 

My .02 was Manchester United  -- yay or nay?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 25, 2008, 12:48:18 PM
not sure and i'm on my seester's pc laptop right now and is too diffycult for this mac man to navigate le www without a mouse. sorry.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 27, 2008, 08:28:54 PM
Hey, kit. Was headed outta da town on Friday.

According to Wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fearless_%28song%29

Near the beginning and at the end of the song, a field recording of fans in Liverpool's Kop singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" is superimposed over the music. This Rodgers and Hammerstein song became the anthem of Liverpool F.C. after Gerry & the Pacemakers had a number-one hit with their recording.

Regarding y'alls discussion in Meander, when I was younger, and found myself in near death situations (of which I was stupid enough to be in on several occasions), I don't recall so much sensing a fear of dying but I was overcome with a dread of not being able to live anymore. As I approach the big five-o... bah, don't wanna ruminate a whole lot on that at the moment. Cheers.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 28, 2008, 07:56:49 AM
Kermit says it ain't easy being it, but that don't mean ya gotta stop thinking it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_dnm4wJ1oI


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kitinkaboodle on April 28, 2008, 09:26:45 AM

Pondy~~

  Blade Runner  so (still) a favorite of mine -- and Vangelis -- his music seems so dated and yet it has such a timeless quality -- I did find the info re: "Fearless" making the song just that much more perfect...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 28, 2008, 04:04:52 PM
I are a big fan of Blade Runner myself, though I wasn't too impressed with the latest, greatest, new and improved director's cut. Perhaps I've seen the original director's cut too many times and found it to be as close to perfect sci-fi as necessary.

Still wondering why the Chad McKay of the Fearless Youtube merited an inclusion of the opening of Margaret Walker's For Malcolm X. Did a quick Google and came up with a BMX rider outta Australia and seeing that the host of that channel is into skateboarding there must be some connection. Not that big of a mystery for me to spend much time on it tho'.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kitinkaboodle on April 28, 2008, 05:29:11 PM
   Yeah, not getting the/a connection with that either...?  BTW:  Are you saying that you prefer the version with Ford's voice-over?







I do...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 28, 2008, 06:20:25 PM
No, no. I mean the original director's cut which eliminated the voice-over of the original release. The latest release, sans narration as well, contains some added scenes.  I'd like to se the narrated version again (been quite awhile), but I prefer the first director's cut.

Uh, what forum are we on?  ???

Anyway, while I'm here hijacking the music forum, just got back from the video store with Southland Tales that barton was talking about a couple o' weeks ago. I just might head over back to the movie forum and report on it later. Also saw The Taking of Pelham 123 last week (barton's sig burned in my brain) never having seen it before.

Enough, back to the tunes... sort of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgL2MKfWTo

telubi dibu douchoo-o-o-o



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: kitinkaboodle on April 28, 2008, 07:38:10 PM
 

  And on that note (movie soundtracks, right? ::))  -- Juno's is quite fine and fun...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on April 29, 2008, 10:05:06 AM
Burnzy,

In case you care, Ray Davies plays the guest DJ on All Songs Considered: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89149374

Nice show. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 29, 2008, 11:12:34 AM
Kewl. Listening as I type.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on April 29, 2008, 11:15:05 AM
kit -- Thanks for the Juno tip. Didn't see it at the cinema. Will get around to rentin' it.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: sgrobin on May 02, 2008, 11:45:18 AM
Burnzy, glad you liked.  I had no idea that his last name was pronounced ‘Davis’. 

Dzimas, I was thinking of you this morning.  We just got VH1 Classic, and that glorious waste of time played the video of ELO’s Last Train to London from their Discovery album.  I used to be into them, and I remember some really strong songs on that disc, but it also had a lot of disco influence – and just as disco was falling into disfavor. 

Anybody listen to music podcasts?  I’m a fan of the ones I can find.  I pointed out the All Songs Considered podcast, which I love.  I’ve picked up a lot of new song ideas from them.  In case anybody’s interested, here’s the link to the weekly show as well as the podcast: http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=37&agg=1

I just downloaded this podcast and was pleasantly surprised:  http://www.indiepopradio.co.uk/  Good if you like, well, indie pop.

This podcast is good for those who like music from all over: http://www.songlines.co.uk/  One quibble: too much talking and not enough sampling of music. 

This site has some decent mod-related music: http://modradiouk.podomatic.com/?badge=1 

I’ve mentioned this one before, but of the WFMU podcasts listed here http://wfmu.org/podcast , I listen to the Downtown Soulville one a lot. 

Anybody have music podcast ideas?


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on May 02, 2008, 02:05:24 PM
Anybody have music podcast ideas?

Other than just waiting for you to recommend one (or two or three or four)? You got all the bases covered, my man.

And, uh... Ray pronounces his name just like you think it would be pronounced. It's that Brit accent that makes it sound like 'Davis'. 8)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Donotremove on May 08, 2008, 11:28:18 AM
Second only to George Jones, Eddy Arnold is dead at 89. God rest this gentleman.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on May 12, 2008, 11:01:02 PM
Jah, mon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr0tb-t4WVo


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on May 12, 2008, 11:04:03 PM
Second only to George Jones, Eddy Arnold is dead at 89. God rest this gentleman.

Rest in Peace, Mr. Arnold. Thank you for the memories.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: ponderosa on May 14, 2008, 03:30:13 PM
(sigh)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD21JDMp86c



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 29, 2008, 04:19:15 AM
Burnzy, glad you liked.  I had no idea that his last name was pronounced ‘Davis’. 

Dzimas, I was thinking of you this morning.  We just got VH1 Classic, and that glorious waste of time played the video of ELO’s Last Train to London from their Discovery album.  I used to be into them, and I remember some really strong songs on that disc, but it also had a lot of disco influence – and just as disco was falling into disfavor. 

Anybody listen to music podcasts?  I’m a fan of the ones I can find.  I pointed out the All Songs Considered podcast, which I love.  I’ve picked up a lot of new song ideas from them.  In case anybody’s interested, here’s the link to the weekly show as well as the podcast: http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=37&agg=1

I just downloaded this podcast and was pleasantly surprised:  http://www.indiepopradio.co.uk/  Good if you like, well, indie pop.

This podcast is good for those who like music from all over: http://www.songlines.co.uk/  One quibble: too much talking and not enough sampling of music. 

This site has some decent mod-related music: http://modradiouk.podomatic.com/?badge=1 

I’ve mentioned this one before, but of the WFMU podcasts listed here http://wfmu.org/podcast , I listen to the Downtown Soulville one a lot. 

Anybody have music podcast ideas?


Thanks for all the links, grobin.  Listening to Elvis Costello's "First Ten Years." I probably shouldn't say this too loud but I've been cribbing music lately using Torrent.  Was listening to Charlie Gillett the other day.  Has new hours, which is a sigh of relief, as I was afraid his health problems had finally caught up to him.  My wife is realling digging Paul Simon's "Songs from the Capeman," which came in a nice re-issue package with Jose Feliciano on a demo version of "Born In Puerto Rico."  She loves those Puerto Rican rhytms.  Makes her feel like dancing.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 29, 2008, 04:29:18 AM
My mum loved listening to Eddy Arnold, so I have some fun childhood memories of him, including Make the World Go Away,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTKeo4w7npA


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on May 30, 2008, 08:04:19 AM
Anyone listen to Van Dyke Parks recently?

I've been listening to the Song Cycle.  Wonderfully baroque.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on May 31, 2008, 12:46:48 AM
Where does this fit in? Found this connected to the movie reviews nytimes,The Visitor. So, if this is going to be a popular movie, perhaps the thematic can go in here too.

After a good start, everybody doing their thing on the first video, take a look at what happens in the second video.  Should give you some new moves.

http://www.rootsyrecords.com/HtmlFiles/djembevideo.htm


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 01, 2008, 08:12:42 AM
My son came up to me today and asked if I had any Alvin Lee.  I was embarrassed to ask who?  Alvin Lee, don't you know Ten Years After?  He had picked up the tabs to "I'm Going Home," as well as showed me Lee's performance on youtube,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHw9b4BBV9Y

It put me into a nostalgic mood for groups like Canned Heat, Humble Pie and Mountain.  Was able to dig up some Humble Pie in the Internet.  I'm constantly amazed how at 14 he picks up on so much of this music.  Big fan of Cream, after I turned him onto Eric Clapton's early years.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: MrUtley3 on June 02, 2008, 12:54:27 PM
A true original dies:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=2008-06-02_D9121TB80&show_article=1&cat=breaking

Bo Knows Heaven...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: madupont on June 02, 2008, 10:42:03 PM
MrUtley, there's a somewhat better picture here, if you want to save it:

http://news.aol.com/newsmakers/news

NEWSMAKERS
4 of 7     
Bo Diddley, the rock 'n' roll pioneer whose guitar riffs inspired a generation of musicians, dies at 79.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: nytempsperdu on June 16, 2008, 09:20:14 PM
Anyone else heard of Brett Dennen and found "Darlin, Do Not Fear" -- one of the songs on the list to the right on his page: http://www.myspace.com/brettdennen -- really captures the ear?  Apparently "Ain't No Way" was/is bigger, but I was taken by t'other.  [Also, I confess that I didn't look him up until husband asked me about his song "Blessed" that played on one of those Hilton Hotel point A-to-point B ads, the one with "Pangea"].


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: Dzimas on June 17, 2008, 04:21:17 AM
Great success story,

Jacob Golden is the latest recipient of the OC golden touch. When the US teen drama broadcast for the final time he became the only unsigned artist to have their music used in the finale.

Personally signed to Chrysalis Publishing by CEO Jeremy Lascelles, the company which gave the world Ray LaMontagne and Bat For Lashes, Jacob has been building a loyal fanbase thanks to tours of intimate "home gigs" in fans' living rooms. The size suits him. He doesn't like recording studios, preferring the natural acoustics of underground car parks, subterranean, concrete art galleries - and his bedroom in Portland, Oregon. "I love the idea of making modern field recordings," he says of his self-penned and self-produced music.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/newbands/story/0,,2066372,00.html

Although I wasn't overly turned on by the music I heard on a BBC episode the other day.  Here's a clip,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QKDFyDjs30&feature=user


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: yankguy on September 29, 2017, 01:11:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ALoao2NNf0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ALoao2NNf0)


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: oilcan on October 02, 2017, 06:51:40 PM
RIP Tom Petty.

Runnin' down his last dream. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: barton on October 03, 2017, 01:42:21 PM
The premature mortality rate of Traveling Wilburies has now reached 60%.



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: yankguy on October 06, 2017, 01:10:53 PM
The same percentage as The Band.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: yankguy on October 06, 2017, 01:14:11 PM
And you know the sun's setting fast.
And just like they say nothing good ever lasts.
Well, go on now and kiss it goodbye but hold on to your lover,
'cause your heart's bound to die.
Go on now and say goodbye to our town, to our town.
Can't you see the sun's settin' down on our town, on our town.
Goodnight.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: barton on October 14, 2017, 09:40:39 PM
https://g.co/kgs/BkD1Jt (https://g.co/kgs/BkD1Jt)

The late Mr. Petty presents a darkly whimsical interpretation of Mary Jane's Last Dance. 



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: FlyingVProd on October 16, 2017, 10:05:41 PM
Happy Birthday to Flea!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtBbinpK5XI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtBbinpK5XI)

Salute,

Tony V.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: yankguy on November 07, 2017, 09:24:02 AM
Well I've been out walking.
I don't do that much talking these days.
These days.
These days I seem to think a lot.
About the things that I forgot to do
For you.
And all the times I had the chance to...


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: FlyingVProd on November 18, 2017, 03:05:32 PM
Rest in peace, Malcolm Young, thanks for the great music that you helped to make.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvFxTpnxk8s

Salute,

Tony V.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: MrUtley3 on November 20, 2017, 07:24:53 AM
The premature mortality rate of Traveling Wilburies has now reached 60%.



How do you judge it as "premature"?



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: barton on November 20, 2017, 07:08:58 PM
Average lifespan of males in Europe/North America is around 78. 

Harrison, Orbison, Petty, all dead in their 50's or by mid-60's.  And all still quite active.  So, yeah, I'm saying premature. 

Kind of what the word usually means, in that context.  Do you have a different definition?



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: jesushoy on November 23, 2017, 10:16:17 AM
I happen to love many recordings of klezmer and sephardic music.

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Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: yankguy on November 29, 2017, 10:47:18 AM
Well I left Rome and landed in Brussels,
On a plane ride so bumpy that I almost cried.
Clergymen in uniform and young girls pullin' muscles,
Everyone was there to greet me when I stepped inside.
Newspapermen eating candy
Had to be held down by big police.
But someday, everything is gonna be different
When I paint that masterpiece.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: MrUtley3 on December 21, 2017, 01:45:38 PM
Average lifespan of males in Europe/North America is around 78. 

Harrison, Orbison, Petty, all dead in their 50's or by mid-60's.  And all still quite active.  So, yeah, I'm saying premature. 

Kind of what the word usually means, in that context.  Do you have a different definition?



I'd say their demise was accelerated by life choices. Premature implies that things were too beyond their ability to influence, which we know isn't true.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: MrUtley3 on December 21, 2017, 01:50:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybsBTnZJd7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybsBTnZJd7w)

When I recall just how it felt
When I went walking down by the lake
My soul was free, my heart awake
When I walked down into the town

The mountain air was fresh and clear
The sun was up behind the hill
It felt so good to be alive
On that morning in spring

I want to sing this song for you
I want to lift your spirits high
And in my soul I want to feel
The beauty of the days gone by

The beauty of the days gone by
It brings a longing to my soul
To contemplate my own true self
And keep my young as I grow old

The beauty of the days gone by
The music that we used to play
So lift your glass and raise it high
To the beauty of the days gone by

I'll sing it from the mountain top
Down to the valley down below
Because my cup doth overflow
With the beauty of the days gone by

The mountain glen
Where we used to roam
The gardens there
By the railroad track
Oh my memory it does not lie
Of the beauty of the days gone by

The beauty of the days gone by
It brings a longing to my soul
To contemplate my own true self
And keeps me young as I grow old

And keeps me young as I grow old
And keeps me young as I grow old
And keeps me young as I grow old


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: FlyingVProd on December 23, 2017, 02:38:31 AM
I want to wish you all a very merry Christmas. I am heading out to the desert the first thing in the morning to spend Christmas with my Mother.

Here is a great song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEk_dy4eX3o

Salute,

Tony V. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: barton on December 23, 2017, 10:22:51 AM
Quote
We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. ....

Merry xmas!


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: bankshot1 on December 23, 2017, 11:04:08 AM
A Christmas fav

Darlene she's awesome,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3e3osJtLdk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3e3osJtLdk)  studio version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0ES8L51BQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0ES8L51BQ)  Live on Letterman 2005 great version-I could bop to this on Passover


Happy etc.

Fuck Trump with a pine cone



Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: FlyingVProd on January 18, 2018, 05:15:32 AM
"Message In A Bottle"

Just a castaway
An island lost at sea
Another lonely day
With no one here but me
More loneliness
Than any man could bear
Rescue me before I fall into despair

I'll send an SOS to the world
I'll send an SOS to the world
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
Message in a bottle
(Message in a bottle)

A year has passed since I wrote my note
But I should have known this right from the start
Only hope can keep me together
Love can mend your life
But love can break your heart

I'll send an SOS to the world
I'll send an SOS to the world
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
Message in a bottle
(Message in a bottle
Oh, message in a bottle
Message in a bottle)

Walked out this morning
Don't believe what I saw
A hundred billion bottles
Washed up on the shore
Seems I'm not alone at being alone
A hundred billion castaways
Looking for a home

I'll send an SOS to the world
I'll send an SOS to the world
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
I hope that someone gets my
Message in a bottle
(Message in a bottle
Message in a bottle
Message in a bottle)

Sending out an SOS...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxGaqRe5MUs 

Salute,

Tony V.


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: oilcan on January 20, 2018, 12:43:58 PM
Quote
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/health/tom-petty-cause-of-death/index.html

Workaholic: did 53 gigs he had promised his fans, until his fractured hip got so bad he overdid the painkillers. 


Title: Re: Popular Music
Post by: MrUtley3 on January 21, 2018, 05:25:25 PM
Sure.


Title: Re: Popular Music
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