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Title: Music
Post by: liquidsilver on July 30, 2018, 12:01:14 PM
Share your thoughts on the latest popular music artists.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on July 30, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
We need to have a Woodstock concert on our Southern Border, to show our love for Mexicans, and to raise money to hire lawyers to battle on behalf of our Latino immigrants, etc.

We can get the Chili Peppers, probably...



And a million other bands from Venice, California, and I bet Carlos Santana would play. 

I bet a lot of bands would want to play. The backlash against putting children in cages is not over yet.


Tony V.
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Post by: ffleate on August 07, 2018, 08:20:03 PM
Share your thoughts on the latest popular music artists.

It may not feature the latest popular music, but it's always good to know where the retro stuff is when you are feeling nostalgic (or hosting Jazz Age party)--  Cladrite Streaming Radio, featuring the best from the 1920s,'30s and '40s  :
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Post by: bodiddley on August 08, 2018, 01:49:57 AM
Okay, I might give that a try.

Damn, I missed both of Louis Armstrong's birthdays this year.
I was busy for the Aug 4 one.

It's odd but I've found that most of my favorite songs are discoveries of mine and largely unknown. 

Such as my Trump Admin theme song: Bad News, Bad Times by gospel great Marion Williams.
Or my favorite jazz vocal Ain't No Use by Sarah Vaughan
My favorite Gospel tune: Sail Away by Albertina Walker
Some favorite Soul:
Yesterday is Gone by Jimmy McCracklin
Blues, Tears & Sorrow - John Williams
Give Her a Call - Gil Scott Heron
Same goes for 50's R&B, but probably doubled

Sometimes it's a well-known song, but an obscure cover version is a favorite of mine:
Such as Edwin Starr's version of My Sweet Lord
Or Marion Williams rendition of I Shall Be Released

As for the old jazz you tout:
Draggin' My Heart Around - Al Cooper & his Savoy Sultans -
Imagination - Bennie Moten
Blues I Love to Sing - Adelaide Hall w/ Duke Ellington

It just seems that a large % of my favorite tunes had to be unearthed and virtually nobody else is listening to.  Odd and a little sad maybe.
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Post by: barton on August 08, 2018, 08:37:54 AM
Want to check those out.   Some are so obscure I don't find a wiki for them.... Like I found Stevie Knicks Draggin my heart  around but not the AL Cooper one.  Think we've got Sarah Vaughn in a storage shed,  but don't know if that one.  Some of those got hit with mold and need new jackets.   

I play too little jazz on the piano... Can do some Gershwin,  Brubeck,  Ramsey Lewis,  Monk (round midnight of course), Rollins,  but not much.  Pre-jazz,  like Confrey and Waller is fun to play.   I do this weird mix song that blends Putting on the Ritz and Unsquare Dance,  maybe I should put that on utube sometime.
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Post by: bankshot1 on August 16, 2018, 10:51:27 AM

In a world with not enough nobility, she was royalty.

A very sad day

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Post by: barton on September 01, 2018, 12:14:37 AM
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Post by: FlyingVProd on September 11, 2018, 05:26:21 PM
We've got to get ourselves back to the Garden...


Tony V.
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Post by: barton on September 29, 2018, 06:39:45 PM

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Post by: barton on October 03, 2018, 08:59:36 PM

Dear lord don't let me die now...
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Post by: FlyingVProd on October 26, 2018, 06:28:03 PM
The Doors

"Spanish Caravan"

Carry me Caravan take me away 
Take me to Portugal, take me to Spain 
Andalusia with fields full of grain 
I have to see you again and again 
Take me, Spanish Caravan 
Yes, I know you can 

Trade winds find Galleons lost in the sea 
I know where treasure is waiting for me 
Silver and gold in the mountains of Spain 
I have to see you again and again 
Take me, Spanish Caravan 
Yes, I know you can



Tony V.
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Post by: oilcan on November 26, 2018, 05:09:02 PM

Was going to post this last Friday....
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Post by: MrUtley3 on November 26, 2018, 09:33:44 PM (
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Post by: barton on December 06, 2018, 11:19:08 PM
Help.   I'm trying to track down a music video from the seventies,  which has a quartet of snl players (one of them Chevy Chase, another probably Belushi)  with just their white-painted faces against a black background,  each face making silly expressions in rhythm with some classical piece of music.   Google has failed me.   Anyone remember this with any specificity that would help me track it down?  Or maybe it was a bit before SNL,  with Second City players?   

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Post by: bodiddley on December 07, 2018, 03:25:52 AM
Sounds familiar.  So I'd assume it was an SNL skit.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on February 14, 2019, 11:48:08 PM
When you are running down our country you are walking on the fighting side of me.


Tony V.
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Post by: barton on February 18, 2019, 06:00:05 PM
This guy is one of a group of young blues/boogie/ragtime pianists who are keeping  these genres alive.  Luca is amazing.  Click on his Boogie Woogie Stomp, too.

Also check out the virtuosic Stephanie Trick, who is a fan and gifted interpreter of Jelly Roll Morton, Albert Ammons, Fats Waller, James Johnson, Art Tatum.

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Post by: FlyingVProd on March 16, 2019, 01:09:46 AM
Patsy Cline

"Tennessee Waltz"

This is stuff you can dance to.


Tony V.
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Post by: bodiddley on March 16, 2019, 01:51:17 AM
Maybe this is well known and I'm just late to the party, but last night a guy showed me a very cool tech feature on my mobile phone.

I had music playing on my phone without headphones, like a radio, when I popped into a shop.  And another customer liked the song (Express Yourself by Charles Wright) pulled out his phone opened wechat -- a messaging and payment app everyone in China uses -- shakes his phone and it listens to maybe 5 seconds of the song I'm playing and it finds the song and downloads it to his phone.

Super-easy to share songs.  I just tried this at home and it listens for 4 or 5 seconds and then takes another 2 or 3 seconds to match it and locate the song.  And this can be any part of a song, not just the opening . 

Not sure how often this will be useful, but pretty impressive.  Blew my mind.  I am going to have to play with this.  And figure out how to make it useful.  I might just start asking people I know what their favorite song or two is, get them to play it, so I can swipe it.  Unfortunately this would be better if I weren't in China.
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Post by: bodiddley on March 16, 2019, 03:14:11 AM
I imagine it won't work for more obscure music -- like some Sun Ra for instance.  And it had trouble with a very slow song (Dark Was the Night by Blind Willie Johnson). 

Edit:  I just tested Dark Was the Night starting from the beginning, and it knew the song after maybe 3 seconds of the opening.  It just had trouble with the slow middle part. 
Well, I tried again with a slow middle part with some humming and it worked fine. 

It seems to be less good on jazz.  A few Mary Lou Williams songs stumped it.  But it did find Machito songs just fine.  And Bennie Moten tunes.  Even one out of two on Al Cooper and the Savoy Sultans.  Not bad.

On to semi-obscure soul, it didn't do well.
Onesy Mack's I Do Believe I'm Losing You not only stumped it but came up with a few false matches, including a nice Brendel classical music piece.  It has no clue who Eldridge Holmes is (recorded for soul for Allen Toussaint).  Most disappointing it couldn't find Earl King's great Hard River to Cross which isn't that old or obscure.  Came up with a movie sound track piece the first time and then The Ladybug Song on a retry. 

Overall, it's really impressive.
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Post by: bodiddley on March 16, 2019, 03:25:50 AM
Besides getting song recs from friends, another use I can think of is when traveling.  I'm heading to Armenia and Azerbaijan soon, and I wonder if it can find their music.  If I hear a tune on the car radio or in a café, I could shake my phone and not only know what the tune is and who is doing it, but have a copy on my phone.

When in Romania there was a tune that kept popping up on the radio which had a good little horn riff I liked.  We didn't even listen to the radio that much, and must have heard that tune about 5 times.  But I have no idea what it was.  With this app, I'd know (well, if the app could recognize the tune and had it in its database).  There are plenty of Asian songs here, including one nice song I just got as a mistaken result for Hard River To Cross, but whether it includes Romanian and Caucusian music I have no idea.  Would have been good to try in Israel and Jordan where we heard a fair amount of Egyptian music.
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Post by: barton on March 16, 2019, 01:22:19 PM
Would be really useful if it could search across all genres of music and would work if you sang or whistled a theme or riff into it.  I often have such, that I can't remember who did it, and would find that handy.  There is a site that you can input a few notes on a blank treble clef ledger, and it will search for classical themes.  I have to have my piano or KB with me, to use that, though.  And it's picky about precise time values for each note, you can't just throw in a line of quarter notes unless it happens to be all quarter notes.  And if it's a complex syncopation between bassline and treble, like say the intro to Vipers Drag (Waller), it's useless.  And contrapuntal is out, obviously.
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Post by: oilcan on March 18, 2019, 01:05:32 PM
RIP Dick Dale, musical pioneer of 20th century rock, king of surf music, father of heavy metal.  Imploder of eardrums.

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Post by: barton on March 21, 2019, 10:03:34 AM

Fun with today's google doodle.  You and JS Bach compose together. 
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Post by: barton on March 21, 2019, 12:52:26 PM
Or, in Bach's case, decompose.  Ha!

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Post by: josh on March 21, 2019, 10:29:58 PM
Or, in Bach's case, decompose.  Ha!

Fuguet about it!
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Post by: oilcan on March 24, 2019, 12:25:39 PM
Help help me rondo!
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Post by: barton on May 30, 2019, 06:59:03 PM
RIP great jazz, ragtime, blues performer and Panama hat wearer Leon Redbone. 

Please don't talk about him when he's gone.

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Post by: FlyingVProd on June 05, 2019, 03:51:14 PM
Here is a video of Ariana Grande doing a duet with Andrea Bocelli, it is beautiful...

I would love to hire Ariana to play the lead role in my film "Echo, A Rock and Roll Tragedy." We will see what happens.


Tony V.
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Post by: oilcan on June 07, 2019, 01:14:04 PM
RIP Dr. John

He was in the right place....must have been the wrong time.

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Post by: barton on July 04, 2019, 10:13:16 AM
Yarrow was sentenced to three months in jail over a 1969 episode in which the 14-year-old and her 17-year-old sister went to his hotel seeking an autograph and he answered the door naked.

Yarrow dropped from music festival for acting the way young people did in the sixties, when it was the sixties.  Have social media shaming dogpiles gained too much control over our decisions?   
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Post by: bodiddley on July 04, 2019, 11:12:20 AM
Louis Armstrong Birthday Broadcast all day 4 July.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on August 11, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
I have a friend who was in the band Suicidal Tendencies, Jon Nelson, and a guy who played bass, Louiche Mayorga, formed a band named Luicidal, and they did a version of the hit "Institutionalized" in Spanish with a Latina singer, Ceci Bastida, it turned out pretty cool.


Tony V.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on August 20, 2019, 12:47:09 AM
There is a new Springsteen cinema event coming out in October.

It looks like it will be something that the Bruce Spingsteen fans are going to love.


Tony V.
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Post by: josh on September 06, 2019, 09:43:33 PM

It is to laugh!
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Post by: oilcan on September 16, 2019, 12:20:42 PM
With vinyl, you can almost hear what kind of plaster they used on the walls of the concert hall.  Glad to see this form of analog hanging in there.

RIP Ric Ocasek.  Wherever he goes, let the good times roll.  A master of earworms. 
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Post by: bodiddley on September 23, 2019, 11:38:54 AM
Coltrane's Birthday.

Coltrane radio all day Monday Spet 23:
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Post by: barton on September 23, 2019, 05:57:35 PM
IIRC the first jazz I ever heard was Coltrane - my uncle playing a record with Equinox on it.  He also played Miles Davis' Freddie Freeloader a lot.   I felt fortunate, later, to have been exposed to many musical genres early in my life.   
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Post by: bodiddley on September 24, 2019, 03:33:03 AM
I'm a big Jazz fan, but to be honest Coltrane (and Miles) don't do it for me.  From that era, I'm more of a Mingus, Sun Ra, Cannonball Adderley kinda guy.

I like Coltrane when he teams up with Monk.
Some of his ballad work is good too.
As for his latter spiritual period for which he became legendary, I find it all overdone and somewhat grating.  I prefer Pharoah Sanders in a similar vein, or Albert Ayler's ramshackle approach.  Or Sun Ra's cosmic take.

It's kind of odd, because Miles and Coltrane are giants of jazz, I'm a giant jazz fan, but I just don't take to their music at all.  Maybe it has something to do with Mingus-Cannonball having more connections to roots music -- gospel and blues -- and those two plus Sun Ra having a sense of humor.  While Mingus and Ra both hark back to Duke Ellington and swing. 

Maybe Coltrane and Miles are a bit too musiciany and self-serious for my taste.  Maybe I should one day just download a dozen albums form each and plow through and see if I "get" them.  If nothing else I should be able to pull together a one hour playlist for each.  But it's funny how I react to most Miles and most Coltrane.  Like eating Brussels sprouts when I was a kid, something clashes with my sensibility.

Btw, I like Brussels Sprouts now, and they are a terrific vegetable in miso soup, as they don't go mushy and taste good with the miso.
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Post by: barton on September 24, 2019, 10:21:58 PM
I recall hearing some Mingus and liking it.   When I learned piano, I played a fair amount of Ellington...Satin Doll is irresistible, if you play piano and can even halfway knock it out, it makes you sound better than you are.  Sophisticated Lady, A Train, Solitude, Mood Indigo, also favorites, though one of the kids absconded with my anthology, so I need to get it replaced.  I will listen to some Cannonball, because I'm mostly unfamiliar with him and I like stuff that comes from roots music.   The spouse was playing some gospely thing the other day, "Rain Down," or something like that, and I was reminded how great that stuff is, how joyful.   
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Post by: bodiddley on September 25, 2019, 02:24:29 AM
Well, I'll give you some Cannonball recs.
If I have time later I can even set up a drop where you can get the songs.  But it's pretty easy these days to download any music you want.

Mercy, Mercy, Mercy (I prefer the 5 minute live version with Cannonball's fine little spoken intro).  A very infectious gospel jazz tune which became a surprising instrumental hit in 1966.

Sack o Woe  & Jive Samba
These two get at the heart of Cannonball, but both are 10 mins long.  Great stuff.

The Happy People -- A Brazilian jazz romp.  Just sounds like huge fun.  I like the whistle as an instrument.

I'd Rather Drink Muddy Water -- a blazing blues romp with Lou Rawls just killing it on vocals.  Dynamite.

Save Your Love for Me -- Nancy Wilson on vocals with minimal backing.  Nancy Wilson was a Cannonball discovery, and this is just pure Nancy.  A gem.

Why Am I Treated So Bad -- in the vein of Mercy, Mercy, Mercy with a similar that blues-gospel organ carrying things along.

Kelly Blue -- low key Cannonball, where you can hear his playing quite well.

Tengo Tango - a jazz tango written by his brother Nat, as cannonball explains in the intro.  Interesting concept. 

African Waltz -- a bit brassy and noisy, but also a lot of fun.

Due to the times a changing, Cannonball often incorporated gospel or soul and blues in with jazz.  Or gave Brazilian-jazz a try.  There's a real joy to his work.  And he's got such a great tone.
He also gave clever and informative intros to his tunes, which helped make them more accessible.  Really Cannonball live captured his work better than in studio,so they even started doing studio albums with a live audience.
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Post by: bodiddley on September 25, 2019, 06:01:27 AM
Mingus (and Sun Ra) have easy ins for someone who likes Ellington, as they performed plenty of homages to Duke.

Pussy Cat Dues is one such Mingus ode to Duke.

Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting is full-throated Mingus jazz but, as the title suggests, with some revival gospel in the mix.

Mingus' version of Moanin' is classic, and keeps a solid blues fell to the proceedings.

Original Faubus Fables is a pretty potent protest song, with a sense of humor.

Eat That Chicken & Oh Lord Please Don't Let Them Drop That Atomic Bomb on Me are both accessible and humorous and pointed political-social barbs.

Better Get Hit in Your Soul (like Fables of Faubus) is a reworking of an earlier tune.  And quintessential Mingus.

The Clown is a semi-improvised jazz-story with Jean Shepard narrating. ("real fine town Pittsburgh") Terrific. 

Otherwise, Tonight at Noon, Hora Decubitus, Haitian Fight Song and Pithecanthropus Erectus are all classic long form Mingus tunes that really get to the heart of what he was.

Others might have different favorites, but those are a dozen classics, and I think the first 8 are quite accessible.  It all depends where you're coming from and what you like.

Since you play piano you should check out Myself When I Am Real, from Mingus' solo piano album.  Beautiful.  (He was a great bassist who dabbled on piano).

I'm pretty surprised that I didn't already have a Mingus playlist formulated.  I quickly threw 15 songs into a setlist, but will need to reorder and fine-tune and add more.
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Post by: barton on September 25, 2019, 01:26:04 PM
I'm bookmarking this page.  You sort of had me at "Brazilian jazz romp."  Thanks, Bo, for all the breadcrumbs to follow.  Yeah, I have no trouble finding the tracks, so this will be fun.

 Jazz, generally, is something I heard in early life, ignored too much in the middle, and now I'm finding my way back to it.  Discovering the power of chords, on the piano, really got me back to jazz - the diminished seventh and ninth, modal scales, the 2-5-1 progression in sevenths, etc.  It got me back to the awareness that most pop songs are statements, whereas jazz is an exploration.  And how can exploring not be incredible fun? 

And how will I resist a jazz number called "I'd Rather Drink Muddy Water" ?  Heh.   
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Post by: bodiddley on September 25, 2019, 03:38:54 PM
And how will I resist a jazz number called "I'd Rather Drink Muddy Water" ?  Heh.   

Actually it's an old blues tune dating to the Depression.  But Lou Rawl blazes through it with Cannonball's band providing outstanding backup.  A great version.  The spoken intro is great too.

I think it matters where you're coming from and your point of reference.  If you like Duke, Mingus has some kind of dukish songs.  I recced just one, Pussy Cat Dues.

With more difficult artists, like say Ornette Coleman or Cecil Taylor, usually the best to start is with their first album or two, because you can see where they veered off, and their style isn't fully developed or as detached from the earlier traditions. 

For instance Mingus' first two albums have plenty of covers of jazz standards, such as I'll Remember April.  And hearing how a new musician approaches a familiar tune is also a good way of understanding their approach.

Cannonball does a rendition of Fiddler on the Roof which is pretty solid.  But I like plenty of Cannonball better than that.

My three favorite Mingus albums: Oh Yeah, Ah Um, and The Clown.  I assume most folks don't listen to albums much these days.  But it is a way to hear the art as it used to be and was intended to be heard.  Cannonball didn't make great studio albums, so his catalog lends itself to pilfering and making a playlist.
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Post by: josh on September 30, 2019, 03:59:44 AM
Some blues...
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Post by: FlyingVProd on November 01, 2019, 03:40:00 PM
Here is a music video that my neighbor, Erik Umland, made, he writes all of his own music, and he sings and plays every instrument, plus he is an expert at recording.


Tony V.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on November 12, 2019, 12:16:37 AM
For everything there is a season.


Tony V.