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Title: Movies
Post by: liquidsilver on July 30, 2018, 12:02:06 PM
Discuss your favorite movies.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on July 30, 2018, 05:00:10 PM
Here are two great movies that you can only find on You Tube, for free, you cannot buy them.

"Harrison Bergeron"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBcpuBRUdNs

And Orson Welles' version of "Othello"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09NWcKA7JKw

These are two great films that you cannot buy, which can only be found on You Tube for free. It is awesome that they can be found on You Tube.

Salute,

Tony V.
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Post by: Barton on August 03, 2018, 11:51:44 AM
Claire Foy has a noteworthy role in "Unsane," as an office worker who goes through a harrowing involuntary commitment to a private mental hospital (part of an insurance scam). The plot is fairly off-the-shelf in a "bad day keeps getting worse" motif (turns out her former stalker is now an orderly at the hospital), but Soderbergh's experimental approach (which includes shooting the whole film secretly, on an Iphone) makes something that could have been generic quite fascinating. This is NOT a "found footage" film, btw - the production quality is actually excellent and I did not realize until after watching the brief DVD extra that the film was made on an Iphone.

Foy is an actress to watch - considerable talent and screen presence who, in this film, shows her power to completely inhabit a character. There's a scene where she is brought breakfast in a padded room and you feel certain she went full Method Acting on this - skipping a couple meals perhaps - and wolfing it down in a way that I rarely see actors do. No fake chewing here - that girl was hungry.

(after two seasons of "The Crown," what fun it must have been to cram half an egg mcmuffin into one's mouth in front of a camera)
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Post by: whiskeypriest on August 06, 2018, 07:14:18 PM
Sad news of the death of producer Vincenzo Labella marred by an In Bruges induced snot shot upon reading that he was the producer of Jesus of Fucking Nazareth, with Robert Fucking Powell in the title role.
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Post by: Barton on August 07, 2018, 09:36:28 AM
Sfunny, I was just reading this,  regarding children in Belgium....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/children-are-being-euthanized-in-belgium/2018/08/06/9473bac2-9988-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9f9a49d7298c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/children-are-being-euthanized-in-belgium/2018/08/06/9473bac2-9988-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9f9a49d7298c)

The chocolates are just for getting them to consent...
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Oilyboyd on August 07, 2018, 12:26:31 PM
It's a film thread.  Not a "use the topic to be snide to others" thread. 
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Post by: MrUtley3 on August 07, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
It's a film thread.  Not a "use the topic to be snide to others" thread.

So, why are you doing so, snide one?

You don't know kid. He'd be open-minded enough to go see Spike Lee.

Now, move along, Barney Phife. I'm sure there's some real crimes out there In which you can stick your big nose.
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Post by: smithtod1 on August 10, 2018, 12:13:49 AM
What's going on?
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Post by: Barton on August 10, 2018, 12:27:24 AM
Now there's a forum moniker I haven't seen in a few years.  Hi,  Smith.   You still in the Dakotas somewhere?   
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Post by: Oilyboyd on August 13, 2018, 11:16:40 AM
Smithtod!

Have you seen Spike Lee's new movie, anyone?  Hearing good things.  And the topic seems pretty timely.



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Post by: whiskeypriest on August 17, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
Watched The Last Jedi because having seen the first seven I felt duty bound to do so. Eh. I thought it was ok. Until the very end, when a slave child walks out with a broom he holds like a light saber and a Resistance ring and I realized I was not seeing the end of episode 8 but the set up for episodes 10,.11 and 12. Holy shit this Fucking thing will never end.
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Post by: Barton on August 17, 2018, 11:23:57 PM
Someone needs to build a deathstar that works.
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Post by: bodiddley on August 18, 2018, 01:43:36 AM
I've never seen a Star Wars film . . .
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Post by: MrUtley3 on August 18, 2018, 11:44:04 AM
I predict "Black Klansman" wins the Best Picture For 2018.
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Post by: jbottle on August 21, 2018, 01:52:25 PM
Smitty, what up?

I've seen "baby driver" like 50 times now because it's always on SHO, don't pay for HBO or Max for whatever reason, $$, been watching "Get Shorty" the tv series, which is acually better than the movie, darker, and more true to what I thought EL would have envisioned.

Elmore Leonard test:  Who does it best?  Soderbergh, Tarantino, whoever did GS, or the the Peter Weller one, "cat chaser" I think.
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Post by: MrUtley3 on August 21, 2018, 02:52:28 PM
"Three Identical Strangers" ...see it.
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Post by: whiskeypriest on August 22, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Albuquerque/Winifred has died.  RIP Nothing left on her grave but Clorox bottles and flyswatters with red dots 0n 'em.

https://youtu.be/4BYyDusJYJo (https://youtu.be/4BYyDusJYJo)
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Post by: Barton on August 23, 2018, 11:27:06 AM
I was just watching something with Keith Carradine when I heard about Ms Harris.  Altman cast everyone perfectly, though Carradine didn't think so at first.  He hated his character, then realized that's why Altman chose him, because he wanted "Tom" to be somewhat self-loathing. 
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Post by: whiskeypriest on August 23, 2018, 12:44:14 PM
Second greatest movie ever.
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Post by: Oilyboyd on August 24, 2018, 11:54:11 AM
Smitty, what up?

I've seen "baby driver" like 50 times now because it's always on SHO, don't pay for HBO or Max for whatever reason, $$, been watching "Get Shorty" the tv series, which is acually better than the movie, darker, and more true to what I thought EL would have envisioned.

Elmore Leonard test:  Who does it best?  Soderbergh, Tarantino, whoever did GS, or the the Peter Weller one, "cat chaser" I think.

Soderbergh, for Out of Sight.  With Jackie Brown and 310 to Yuma maybe a close second/third. (Taratino and Mangold, respectively)

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: FlyingVProd on August 25, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
We have one of the best film schools in the world here in the O.C., Dodge College at Chapman University. Here is a link for a page with some student films on it...

https://vimeo.com/album/1965724

I need to get some new headshots made, and I want to submit to act in student films here locally. 

Salute,

Tony V.
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Post by: Oilyboyd on August 28, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
Black Klansman is pretty good.   It's darkly comic but also disturbing because the major roles are real people.   A good reminder of how human desire to be "in the club" and find love and camaraderie can take people to bad places.   Lee isn't coy about what he wants to say about right now in America.   But maybe he doesn't really need the coda with Charlottesville footage.   He's already allowed the viewers to make the connection.  He doesn't need to be Michael Moore. 
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Post by: MrUtley3 on August 29, 2018, 11:39:59 AM
"Crazy Rich Asian" was colorful and interesting. Not up to the to rom-com standard of "My Big Greek Fat Wedding", but a fun watch.
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Post by: jbottle on September 03, 2018, 12:50:00 PM
As ethnic movies go, not as self-consciously Jewish as a Woody Allen movie, but as Asian rom-com goes it nailed all the low hanging stereotype fruit...[cough]...
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Post by: Barton on September 03, 2018, 03:38:42 PM
Banana is the Asian metaphor equivalent to Oreo.   Some good jokes,  lots of trite but fun stuff,  and Singapore has great sky candy.  I heart Gemma Chan,  who plays a sister.   She's also great in the UK science fiction series "Humans. " 
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Post by: jbottle on September 03, 2018, 09:55:54 PM
Do they address the Asian porn famine??

Terrible.
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Post by: jbottle on September 05, 2018, 12:02:05 AM
Just saw “Thunderheart” again, really good.
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Post by: Barton on September 05, 2018, 05:27:46 PM
When I saw Wind River last year,  I recalled Thunderheart having some similar theme elements and wondered if I wanted to see it again.   Both movies,  as is the case with almost all NA themed films,  have Graham Greene in the cast.   Might have a look. 
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Post by: FlyingVProd on September 06, 2018, 03:36:41 PM
Burt Reynolds, Movie Star Who Played It for Grins, Dies at 82
 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/burt-reynolds-movie-star-who-played-it-for-grins-dies-at-82/ar-BBMY3KT?OCID=ansmsnnews11 

--------------

RIP Burt.

Burt Reynolds was great. 

Salute,

Tony V. 
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Post by: Oilyboyd on September 17, 2018, 03:25:50 PM
We're going crazy out there at the lake.

Just rewatched season two of "Fargo, " which is the best season of the three so far,  and so artfully captures the spirit of the original film.   
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Post by: Barton on September 20, 2018, 11:35:23 AM
SPOILERS FOR "TULLY"

Seriously, this movie has quite the plot twist and so I'm going to type a couple of run-on sentences in here, just in case you absent-mindedly kept reading past the SPOILER ALERT or somehow have the notion that maybe you can stop reading before it gets too spoilery. No. I am going to really really spoil this movie if I even obliquely allude to the plot twist in the final reel. OK, then.

The movie started out for me as a fairly standard indie dramedy with some fairly standard off-the-shelf parts about modern family life, and middle-aged motherhood, and the amusing rigors of affluent suburban life. I probably would have bailed, if not for a strong cast - Charlize Theron, Mark Duplass, Rob Livingston and a new-ish face, Mackenzie Davis, who plays the "night nanny" that Theron's wealthy brother hires for her as a support system for a middle-aged mom with a newborn and a couple of kids already (one of them is "quirky," which is apparently the term that everyone in the movie settles on for the autistic/Asperger's boy).

But then the nanny offers an extra service that seems quite above and beyond the call of duty - and which you wouldn't expect to see in her CV. The scene is a bit surreal, but the film presents it a way that dulls the edges of implausbility enough to keep you thinking it's real and maybe this is something that's even a trend in some part of the country you don't live in.

From this point on, the movie had me well-hooked. And, looking back, I don't quite understand how I didn't see the Big Reveal coming at the end. Plenty of bread crumbs were dropped for me. I usually can smell this particular twist coming a mile away. I can imagine real pleasure in watching again, knowing the true status of Tully the nanny, and considering the clever allegorical story that it all becomes when you understand that status.

Grade: A (in spite of my general aversion to films that focus too often on the details of lactation and breast pumps)
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Post by: MrUtley3 on September 20, 2018, 11:42:22 AM
"Juliet, Naked" very entertaining. Have to love Ethan Hawke.

"The Wife", Glenn Close Oscar nomination coming.

See them both, but see "The Wife", now.
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Post by: Oilyboyd on October 16, 2018, 12:17:04 PM
I liked Tully.  Haven't seen Juliet, Naked, but any film that has naked in the title tweaks primitive Cro-Magnon movie instincts, and Ethan Hawke has been really getting better as an actor in the past decade.  I don't recommend Hereditary, which was too unrelievedly grim and then just turned into a bunch of better horror film ripoffs at the end.  A Star is Born is just shit, just like the previous version was. 
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Post by: MrUtley3 on October 16, 2018, 05:11:21 PM
I can rec "Tully", also. Dark comedy with a message---hang in there, it's worth it.
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Post by: bodiddley on October 24, 2018, 04:26:16 AM
I found Tully pretty average and not that engaging.
The pieces didn't come together or add up to much for me.

I would strongly rec Young Adult for a Reitman/Cody/Theron film.  Just looked it up and that was way back in 2011 (I would have thought 2013 or'14).  Actually these two films are really companion pieces, so if you liked Tully, check out Young Adult.

Tully had a lot of writerly tricks which didn't work for me and were too visible on screen.  While I thought Young Adult remained unpredictable and fresh.
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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 16, 2018, 12:30:38 PM
It seems William Goldman finally went up against a Sicilian when DEATH was on the line. RIP
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Post by: Oilyboyd on November 16, 2018, 01:02:02 PM
"What happened to the old bank? It was beautiful.”

“People kept robbing it.”

“Small price to pay for beauty.”

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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 16, 2018, 01:18:42 PM
"What happened to the old bank? It was beautiful.”

“People kept robbing it.”

“Small price to pay for beauty.”
When I heard Goldman died, I thought of a line, from the movie where Winslet and Diaz switch houses, about an old time screenwriter played by Eli Wallach: there are things we say that we only say because he wrote them first.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Post by: MrUtley3 on November 16, 2018, 04:56:27 PM
Maybe, just maybe..."he's only mostly dead".
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Post by: Barton on November 16, 2018, 06:49:07 PM
Inconceivable!


One of the true masters.   
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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 21, 2018, 12:23:14 PM
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs is now streaming on Netflix after a brief qualifying run in theaters. Not top flight Coens, but still pretty good. I particularly liked the last two segments, with Zoe Kazan and Bill Heck finding love on a wagon train, only to have the Coens upset our expectations, the bastards, and five people riding in a stagecoach with death hovering above them in a figurative and literal sense. Great torrents of words you dare not laugh at lest you miss something and a slowly darkening mood as three of the riders start to realize there may be something... otherworldly about the whole journey.  Also features the bleakest, darkest episode I think the Coens have have ever filmed, and a chilling, merciless smile from Liam Neeson to wrap it up. Also, Tom Waits was born - or at least aged - to play a grizzled prospectors.

Well willing to forgive that the titular first episode is the  brothers in my least favorite of their modes, and that the second is essentially a 15 minute filmed version of an old joke. A wading in before.the abyss as it were.
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Post by: Oilyboyd on November 22, 2018, 03:42:22 PM
"The quality of mercy is not strained,  it droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven. "

Never going to hear that line the same again.   



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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 22, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
That made me want to stick my head in the oven. Fortunately electric.
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Post by: Barton on November 24, 2018, 10:52:28 AM
We don't have Netflix but are doing a one month free trial mostly to see TBoBS.   

I will read your more extended review at 3rd Eye,  when we've watched it.   

Last night I plumbed what is truly the bottom tier of Coeniana with "Suburbicon."  An incoherent goatfuck of trite and poorly connected cliches of the 50s, which systematically exterminates almost the entire cast without any real feeling of either loss or gain.   As sterile as its suburban countertops.   Surprised Joel and Ethan didn't Alan Smithee their script contribution. 
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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 24, 2018, 11:58:43 AM
I figured there was a reason they did not make it themselves.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on December 13, 2018, 05:47:46 PM
On the issue of helping the stars and the filmmakers of the future...

Actors need to help each other out during the hard times, and Meryl Streep lived in a commune for a time before she was big and famous. The actors who are big and rich and famous need to help out the actors who are starving by buying places like the Oban Hotel in Hollywood, on Yucca, and making it into a hostel for actors. More communes for actors and writers and filmmakers would also be good.

In the old days there were nuns who ran apartments for starving actresses, etc, and there needs to be more help for starving artists.

The Princess Grace Awards helps actors and filmmakers by awarding them grants so that they can focus on studying, and creating art, etc, and there needs to be more stuff like that. (And I told them to help the students at the AADA where Princess Grace Kelly Grimaldi studied acting, etc)

And the big studios can do more to help the starving artists too, a lot more can be done.

There is a charity group which gets jobs for the homeless people, the charity is Chrysalis, and they get homeless actors and filmmakers jobs working at the Sony Studios in Culver City, and they are establishing a relationship with Disneyland in Anaheim to get the homeless people jobs working at Disney, etc.

More needs to be done to help the starving actors and filmmakers here in Hollywood. Someday they will be rich and famous, but right now many are starving, and they need a helping hand.

Salute,

Tony V.

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Post by: Oilyboyd on December 14, 2018, 11:43:35 AM
People in third world countries are snickering at "starving actresses...." 

I think hostels, set up as artist hubs, is a good idea, though.  It's a little easier to practice your lines, and show up for auditions, if you aren't busting your hump in a minimum wage job just to make rent. 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Oilyboyd on January 07, 2019, 11:48:15 AM
You all would like "Vice."  Good performances, some very funny/dark moments, and an hilarious mid-credits cut to a focus group that's discussing the movie itself (IOW, don't leave when the credits roll). 
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Post by: Barton on January 07, 2019, 12:11:40 PM
I did, with some reservations....here's a comment I left at Third Eye:

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I liked "Vice," an amusing and unapologetically mocking dark comedy, but it definitely has some weak spots. Steve Carell is somehow just wrong as Donald Rumsfeld and made me intensely aware that he was Steve Carell doing a caricature. Almost cartoonish. And I could say much the same about Sam Rockwell as GW Bush (admittedly, Josh Brolin is a tough act to follow). I would also question the degree of coldness that is imputed to Cheney (not that he wasn't a bastard) in regard to his daughter's congress race and her tossing her sister under the Sanctity of Marriage bus. While one can argue that Cheney was some sort of evil puppet-master of the W administration, I tend to think it was likely more of an ensemble effort. There were some informative sidebars and captions that deliver some interesting information (a bit reminiscent of The Big Short) for younger viewers who may not have been aware of Cheney's adherence to the concept of the "unitary executive."

It's the kind of movie that should send any honest person off to spend a few hours fact-checking. Unfortunately, most viewers will probably just place a few checkmarks on either a Knew That checklist or a Fake News checklist.   
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Post by: josh on January 07, 2019, 10:14:07 PM
I did, with some reservations....here's a comment I left at Third Eye:

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I liked "Vice," an amusing and unapologetically mocking dark comedy, but it definitely has some weak spots. Steve Carell is somehow just wrong as Donald Rumsfeld and made me intensely aware that he was Steve Carell doing a caricature. Almost cartoonish. And I could say much the same about Sam Rockwell as GW Bush (admittedly, Josh Brolin is a tough act to follow). I would also question the degree of coldness that is imputed to Cheney (not that he wasn't a bastard) in regard to his daughter's congress race and her tossing her sister under the Sanctity of Marriage bus. While one can argue that Cheney was some sort of evil puppet-master of the W administration, I tend to think it was likely more of an ensemble effort. There were some informative sidebars and captions that deliver some interesting information (a bit reminiscent of The Big Short) for younger viewers who may not have been aware of Cheney's adherence to the concept of the "unitary executive."

It's the kind of movie that should send any honest person off to spend a few hours fact-checking. Unfortunately, most viewers will probably just place a few checkmarks on either a Knew That checklist or a Fake News checklist.   

Sounds about right.
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Post by: whiskeypriest on January 22, 2019, 01:28:21 PM
Biggest surprise on the Oscar noms today has to be Pawel Pawelkowski being nominated for Cold War, over Cooper and Farrley. Haven't seen it, but I thought his earlier BFL winner Ida was a strikingly beautiful snooze.

Look forward to watching Tim Blake Nelson and Willie Watson during on WaCTHSfW at the show. Hope Nelson gets wings and his harp.
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Post by: Barton on January 22, 2019, 08:36:41 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/movies/netflix-ballad-of-buster-scruggs.html

The spouse and I continue to avoid streaming services for several reasons,  so we're effectively shut out of Scruggs.  The anti moviehouse business model has just firmed up our boycott of Nflix.   Movies belong in theaters, and AA nominees especially should have extended theatrical releases and second runs.   (same comment on Roma)

You should run that acronym past Bill Weeden...