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Title: Movies
Post by: liquidsilver on July 30, 2018, 12:02:06 PM
Discuss your favorite movies.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on July 30, 2018, 05:00:10 PM
Here are two great movies that you can only find on You Tube, for free, you cannot buy them.

"Harrison Bergeron"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBcpuBRUdNs

And Orson Welles' version of "Othello"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09NWcKA7JKw

These are two great films that you cannot buy, which can only be found on You Tube for free. It is awesome that they can be found on You Tube.

Salute,

Tony V.
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Post by: barton on August 03, 2018, 11:51:44 AM
Claire Foy has a noteworthy role in "Unsane," as an office worker who goes through a harrowing involuntary commitment to a private mental hospital (part of an insurance scam). The plot is fairly off-the-shelf in a "bad day keeps getting worse" motif (turns out her former stalker is now an orderly at the hospital), but Soderbergh's experimental approach (which includes shooting the whole film secretly, on an Iphone) makes something that could have been generic quite fascinating. This is NOT a "found footage" film, btw - the production quality is actually excellent and I did not realize until after watching the brief DVD extra that the film was made on an Iphone.

Foy is an actress to watch - considerable talent and screen presence who, in this film, shows her power to completely inhabit a character. There's a scene where she is brought breakfast in a padded room and you feel certain she went full Method Acting on this - skipping a couple meals perhaps - and wolfing it down in a way that I rarely see actors do. No fake chewing here - that girl was hungry.

(after two seasons of "The Crown," what fun it must have been to cram half an egg mcmuffin into one's mouth in front of a camera)
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Post by: whiskeypriest on August 06, 2018, 07:14:18 PM
Sad news of the death of producer Vincenzo Labella marred by an In Bruges induced snot shot upon reading that he was the producer of Jesus of Fucking Nazareth, with Robert Fucking Powell in the title role.
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Post by: barton on August 07, 2018, 09:36:28 AM
Sfunny, I was just reading this,  regarding children in Belgium....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/children-are-being-euthanized-in-belgium/2018/08/06/9473bac2-9988-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9f9a49d7298c (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/children-are-being-euthanized-in-belgium/2018/08/06/9473bac2-9988-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9f9a49d7298c)

The chocolates are just for getting them to consent...
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on August 07, 2018, 12:26:31 PM
It's a film thread.  Not a "use the topic to be snide to others" thread. 
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Post by: MrUtley3 on August 07, 2018, 02:48:18 PM
It's a film thread.  Not a "use the topic to be snide to others" thread.

So, why are you doing so, snide one?

You don't know kid. He'd be open-minded enough to go see Spike Lee.

Now, move along, Barney Phife. I'm sure there's some real crimes out there In which you can stick your big nose.
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Post by: smithtod1 on August 10, 2018, 12:13:49 AM
What's going on?
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Post by: barton on August 10, 2018, 12:27:24 AM
Now there's a forum moniker I haven't seen in a few years.  Hi,  Smith.   You still in the Dakotas somewhere?   
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on August 13, 2018, 11:16:40 AM
Smithtod!

Have you seen Spike Lee's new movie, anyone?  Hearing good things.  And the topic seems pretty timely.



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Post by: whiskeypriest on August 17, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
Watched The Last Jedi because having seen the first seven I felt duty bound to do so. Eh. I thought it was ok. Until the very end, when a slave child walks out with a broom he holds like a light saber and a Resistance ring and I realized I was not seeing the end of episode 8 but the set up for episodes 10,.11 and 12. Holy shit this Fucking thing will never end.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on August 17, 2018, 11:23:57 PM
Someone needs to build a deathstar that works.
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Post by: bodiddley on August 18, 2018, 01:43:36 AM
I've never seen a Star Wars film . . .
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Post by: MrUtley3 on August 18, 2018, 11:44:04 AM
I predict "Black Klansman" wins the Best Picture For 2018.
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Post by: jbottle on August 21, 2018, 01:52:25 PM
Smitty, what up?

I've seen "baby driver" like 50 times now because it's always on SHO, don't pay for HBO or Max for whatever reason, $$, been watching "Get Shorty" the tv series, which is acually better than the movie, darker, and more true to what I thought EL would have envisioned.

Elmore Leonard test:  Who does it best?  Soderbergh, Tarantino, whoever did GS, or the the Peter Weller one, "cat chaser" I think.
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Post by: MrUtley3 on August 21, 2018, 02:52:28 PM
"Three Identical Strangers" ...see it.
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Post by: whiskeypriest on August 22, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Albuquerque/Winifred has died.  RIP Nothing left on her grave but Clorox bottles and flyswatters with red dots 0n 'em.

https://youtu.be/4BYyDusJYJo (https://youtu.be/4BYyDusJYJo)
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Post by: barton on August 23, 2018, 11:27:06 AM
I was just watching something with Keith Carradine when I heard about Ms Harris.  Altman cast everyone perfectly, though Carradine didn't think so at first.  He hated his character, then realized that's why Altman chose him, because he wanted "Tom" to be somewhat self-loathing. 
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Post by: whiskeypriest on August 23, 2018, 12:44:14 PM
Second greatest movie ever.
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Post by: oilcan on August 24, 2018, 11:54:11 AM
Smitty, what up?

I've seen "baby driver" like 50 times now because it's always on SHO, don't pay for HBO or Max for whatever reason, $$, been watching "Get Shorty" the tv series, which is acually better than the movie, darker, and more true to what I thought EL would have envisioned.

Elmore Leonard test:  Who does it best?  Soderbergh, Tarantino, whoever did GS, or the the Peter Weller one, "cat chaser" I think.

Soderbergh, for Out of Sight.  With Jackie Brown and 310 to Yuma maybe a close second/third. (Taratino and Mangold, respectively)

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: FlyingVProd on August 25, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
We have one of the best film schools in the world here in the O.C., Dodge College at Chapman University. Here is a link for a page with some student films on it...

https://vimeo.com/album/1965724

I need to get some new headshots made, and I want to submit to act in student films here locally. 

Salute,

Tony V.
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Post by: oilcan on August 28, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
Black Klansman is pretty good.   It's darkly comic but also disturbing because the major roles are real people.   A good reminder of how human desire to be "in the club" and find love and camaraderie can take people to bad places.   Lee isn't coy about what he wants to say about right now in America.   But maybe he doesn't really need the coda with Charlottesville footage.   He's already allowed the viewers to make the connection.  He doesn't need to be Michael Moore. 
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Post by: MrUtley3 on August 29, 2018, 11:39:59 AM
"Crazy Rich Asian" was colorful and interesting. Not up to the to rom-com standard of "My Big Greek Fat Wedding", but a fun watch.
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Post by: jbottle on September 03, 2018, 12:50:00 PM
As ethnic movies go, not as self-consciously Jewish as a Woody Allen movie, but as Asian rom-com goes it nailed all the low hanging stereotype fruit...[cough]...
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Post by: barton on September 03, 2018, 03:38:42 PM
Banana is the Asian metaphor equivalent to Oreo.   Some good jokes,  lots of trite but fun stuff,  and Singapore has great sky candy.  I heart Gemma Chan,  who plays a sister.   She's also great in the UK science fiction series "Humans. " 
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Post by: jbottle on September 03, 2018, 09:55:54 PM
Do they address the Asian porn famine??

Terrible.
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Post by: jbottle on September 05, 2018, 12:02:05 AM
Just saw “Thunderheart” again, really good.
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Post by: barton on September 05, 2018, 05:27:46 PM
When I saw Wind River last year,  I recalled Thunderheart having some similar theme elements and wondered if I wanted to see it again.   Both movies,  as is the case with almost all NA themed films,  have Graham Greene in the cast.   Might have a look. 
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Post by: FlyingVProd on September 06, 2018, 03:36:41 PM
Burt Reynolds, Movie Star Who Played It for Grins, Dies at 82
 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/burt-reynolds-movie-star-who-played-it-for-grins-dies-at-82/ar-BBMY3KT?OCID=ansmsnnews11 

--------------

RIP Burt.

Burt Reynolds was great. 

Salute,

Tony V. 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on September 17, 2018, 03:25:50 PM
We're going crazy out there at the lake.

Just rewatched season two of "Fargo, " which is the best season of the three so far,  and so artfully captures the spirit of the original film.   
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on September 20, 2018, 11:35:23 AM
SPOILERS FOR "TULLY"

Seriously, this movie has quite the plot twist and so I'm going to type a couple of run-on sentences in here, just in case you absent-mindedly kept reading past the SPOILER ALERT or somehow have the notion that maybe you can stop reading before it gets too spoilery. No. I am going to really really spoil this movie if I even obliquely allude to the plot twist in the final reel. OK, then.

The movie started out for me as a fairly standard indie dramedy with some fairly standard off-the-shelf parts about modern family life, and middle-aged motherhood, and the amusing rigors of affluent suburban life. I probably would have bailed, if not for a strong cast - Charlize Theron, Mark Duplass, Rob Livingston and a new-ish face, Mackenzie Davis, who plays the "night nanny" that Theron's wealthy brother hires for her as a support system for a middle-aged mom with a newborn and a couple of kids already (one of them is "quirky," which is apparently the term that everyone in the movie settles on for the autistic/Asperger's boy).

But then the nanny offers an extra service that seems quite above and beyond the call of duty - and which you wouldn't expect to see in her CV. The scene is a bit surreal, but the film presents it a way that dulls the edges of implausbility enough to keep you thinking it's real and maybe this is something that's even a trend in some part of the country you don't live in.

From this point on, the movie had me well-hooked. And, looking back, I don't quite understand how I didn't see the Big Reveal coming at the end. Plenty of bread crumbs were dropped for me. I usually can smell this particular twist coming a mile away. I can imagine real pleasure in watching again, knowing the true status of Tully the nanny, and considering the clever allegorical story that it all becomes when you understand that status.

Grade: A (in spite of my general aversion to films that focus too often on the details of lactation and breast pumps)
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Post by: MrUtley3 on September 20, 2018, 11:42:22 AM
"Juliet, Naked" very entertaining. Have to love Ethan Hawke.

"The Wife", Glenn Close Oscar nomination coming.

See them both, but see "The Wife", now.
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Post by: oilcan on October 16, 2018, 12:17:04 PM
I liked Tully.  Haven't seen Juliet, Naked, but any film that has naked in the title tweaks primitive Cro-Magnon movie instincts, and Ethan Hawke has been really getting better as an actor in the past decade.  I don't recommend Hereditary, which was too unrelievedly grim and then just turned into a bunch of better horror film ripoffs at the end.  A Star is Born is just shit, just like the previous version was. 
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Post by: MrUtley3 on October 16, 2018, 05:11:21 PM
I can rec "Tully", also. Dark comedy with a message---hang in there, it's worth it.
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Post by: bodiddley on October 24, 2018, 04:26:16 AM
I found Tully pretty average and not that engaging.
The pieces didn't come together or add up to much for me.

I would strongly rec Young Adult for a Reitman/Cody/Theron film.  Just looked it up and that was way back in 2011 (I would have thought 2013 or'14).  Actually these two films are really companion pieces, so if you liked Tully, check out Young Adult.

Tully had a lot of writerly tricks which didn't work for me and were too visible on screen.  While I thought Young Adult remained unpredictable and fresh.
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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 16, 2018, 12:30:38 PM
It seems William Goldman finally went up against a Sicilian when DEATH was on the line. RIP
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Post by: oilcan on November 16, 2018, 01:02:02 PM
"What happened to the old bank? It was beautiful.”

“People kept robbing it.”

“Small price to pay for beauty.”

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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 16, 2018, 01:18:42 PM
"What happened to the old bank? It was beautiful.”

“People kept robbing it.”

“Small price to pay for beauty.”
When I heard Goldman died, I thought of a line, from the movie where Winslet and Diaz switch houses, about an old time screenwriter played by Eli Wallach: there are things we say that we only say because he wrote them first.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Post by: MrUtley3 on November 16, 2018, 04:56:27 PM
Maybe, just maybe..."he's only mostly dead".
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Post by: barton on November 16, 2018, 06:49:07 PM
Inconceivable!


One of the true masters.   
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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 21, 2018, 12:23:14 PM
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs is now streaming on Netflix after a brief qualifying run in theaters. Not top flight Coens, but still pretty good. I particularly liked the last two segments, with Zoe Kazan and Bill Heck finding love on a wagon train, only to have the Coens upset our expectations, the bastards, and five people riding in a stagecoach with death hovering above them in a figurative and literal sense. Great torrents of words you dare not laugh at lest you miss something and a slowly darkening mood as three of the riders start to realize there may be something... otherworldly about the whole journey.  Also features the bleakest, darkest episode I think the Coens have have ever filmed, and a chilling, merciless smile from Liam Neeson to wrap it up. Also, Tom Waits was born - or at least aged - to play a grizzled prospectors.

Well willing to forgive that the titular first episode is the  brothers in my least favorite of their modes, and that the second is essentially a 15 minute filmed version of an old joke. A wading in before.the abyss as it were.
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Post by: oilcan on November 22, 2018, 03:42:22 PM
"The quality of mercy is not strained,  it droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven. "

Never going to hear that line the same again.   



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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 22, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
That made me want to stick my head in the oven. Fortunately electric.
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Post by: barton on November 24, 2018, 10:52:28 AM
We don't have Netflix but are doing a one month free trial mostly to see TBoBS.   

I will read your more extended review at 3rd Eye,  when we've watched it.   

Last night I plumbed what is truly the bottom tier of Coeniana with "Suburbicon."  An incoherent goatfuck of trite and poorly connected cliches of the 50s, which systematically exterminates almost the entire cast without any real feeling of either loss or gain.   As sterile as its suburban countertops.   Surprised Joel and Ethan didn't Alan Smithee their script contribution. 
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Post by: whiskeypriest on November 24, 2018, 11:58:43 AM
I figured there was a reason they did not make it themselves.
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Post by: FlyingVProd on December 13, 2018, 05:47:46 PM
On the issue of helping the stars and the filmmakers of the future...

Actors need to help each other out during the hard times, and Meryl Streep lived in a commune for a time before she was big and famous. The actors who are big and rich and famous need to help out the actors who are starving by buying places like the Oban Hotel in Hollywood, on Yucca, and making it into a hostel for actors. More communes for actors and writers and filmmakers would also be good.

In the old days there were nuns who ran apartments for starving actresses, etc, and there needs to be more help for starving artists.

The Princess Grace Awards helps actors and filmmakers by awarding them grants so that they can focus on studying, and creating art, etc, and there needs to be more stuff like that. (And I told them to help the students at the AADA where Princess Grace Kelly Grimaldi studied acting, etc)

And the big studios can do more to help the starving artists too, a lot more can be done.

There is a charity group which gets jobs for the homeless people, the charity is Chrysalis, and they get homeless actors and filmmakers jobs working at the Sony Studios in Culver City, and they are establishing a relationship with Disneyland in Anaheim to get the homeless people jobs working at Disney, etc.

More needs to be done to help the starving actors and filmmakers here in Hollywood. Someday they will be rich and famous, but right now many are starving, and they need a helping hand.

Salute,

Tony V.

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on December 14, 2018, 11:43:35 AM
People in third world countries are snickering at "starving actresses...." 

I think hostels, set up as artist hubs, is a good idea, though.  It's a little easier to practice your lines, and show up for auditions, if you aren't busting your hump in a minimum wage job just to make rent. 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on January 07, 2019, 11:48:15 AM
You all would like "Vice."  Good performances, some very funny/dark moments, and an hilarious mid-credits cut to a focus group that's discussing the movie itself (IOW, don't leave when the credits roll). 
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Post by: barton on January 07, 2019, 12:11:40 PM
I did, with some reservations....here's a comment I left at Third Eye:

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I liked "Vice," an amusing and unapologetically mocking dark comedy, but it definitely has some weak spots. Steve Carell is somehow just wrong as Donald Rumsfeld and made me intensely aware that he was Steve Carell doing a caricature. Almost cartoonish. And I could say much the same about Sam Rockwell as GW Bush (admittedly, Josh Brolin is a tough act to follow). I would also question the degree of coldness that is imputed to Cheney (not that he wasn't a bastard) in regard to his daughter's congress race and her tossing her sister under the Sanctity of Marriage bus. While one can argue that Cheney was some sort of evil puppet-master of the W administration, I tend to think it was likely more of an ensemble effort. There were some informative sidebars and captions that deliver some interesting information (a bit reminiscent of The Big Short) for younger viewers who may not have been aware of Cheney's adherence to the concept of the "unitary executive."

It's the kind of movie that should send any honest person off to spend a few hours fact-checking. Unfortunately, most viewers will probably just place a few checkmarks on either a Knew That checklist or a Fake News checklist.   
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Post by: josh on January 07, 2019, 10:14:07 PM
I did, with some reservations....here's a comment I left at Third Eye:

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I liked "Vice," an amusing and unapologetically mocking dark comedy, but it definitely has some weak spots. Steve Carell is somehow just wrong as Donald Rumsfeld and made me intensely aware that he was Steve Carell doing a caricature. Almost cartoonish. And I could say much the same about Sam Rockwell as GW Bush (admittedly, Josh Brolin is a tough act to follow). I would also question the degree of coldness that is imputed to Cheney (not that he wasn't a bastard) in regard to his daughter's congress race and her tossing her sister under the Sanctity of Marriage bus. While one can argue that Cheney was some sort of evil puppet-master of the W administration, I tend to think it was likely more of an ensemble effort. There were some informative sidebars and captions that deliver some interesting information (a bit reminiscent of The Big Short) for younger viewers who may not have been aware of Cheney's adherence to the concept of the "unitary executive."

It's the kind of movie that should send any honest person off to spend a few hours fact-checking. Unfortunately, most viewers will probably just place a few checkmarks on either a Knew That checklist or a Fake News checklist.   

Sounds about right.
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Post by: whiskeypriest on January 22, 2019, 01:28:21 PM
Biggest surprise on the Oscar noms today has to be Pawel Pawelkowski being nominated for Cold War, over Cooper and Farrley. Haven't seen it, but I thought his earlier BFL winner Ida was a strikingly beautiful snooze.

Look forward to watching Tim Blake Nelson and Willie Watson during on WaCTHSfW at the show. Hope Nelson gets wings and his harp.
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Post by: barton on January 22, 2019, 08:36:41 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/movies/netflix-ballad-of-buster-scruggs.html

The spouse and I continue to avoid streaming services for several reasons,  so we're effectively shut out of Scruggs.  The anti moviehouse business model has just firmed up our boycott of Nflix.   Movies belong in theaters, and AA nominees especially should have extended theatrical releases and second runs.   (same comment on Roma)

You should run that acronym past Bill Weeden...
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Post by: barton on February 23, 2019, 11:09:46 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/feb/23/trump-picks-up-two-razzies-as-holmes-watson-dominates-worst-of-hollywood

When I read that "Etan Cohen" won worst director I had a moment of confusion, but Wikipedia resolved it...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etan_Cohen

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Post by: barton on February 24, 2019, 03:12:49 PM
While I'm on about spellings of names, why do the Irish need so many vowels when one would suffice?

Take Saoirse Ronan (nominated last year, in LadyBird).  It's Sur-sheh.  Dump the "aoi" and use a "u" and everyone can go home. 

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Post by: josh on February 24, 2019, 10:29:01 PM
While I'm on about spellings of names, why do the Irish need so many vowels when one would suffice?

Take Saoirse Ronan (nominated last year, in LadyBird).  It's Sur-sheh.  Dump the "aoi" and use a "u" and everyone can go home.

Cof, cof.
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Post by: HamiltonIII on February 25, 2019, 10:05:32 AM
While I'm on about spellings of names, why do the Irish need so many vowels when one would suffice?

Because the English were teaching them to spell.
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Post by: HamiltonIII on February 25, 2019, 10:13:00 AM
The Fair and Equal Oscars were held last night, making sure everyone both loved and hated who in whatever category was given a trophy.

Shocker of the evening was not that the most boring film of the year (Roma) did not receive an award, but that Glenn Close was denied the statuette.

It worked well with no host, producing only two awkward moments---Samuel L. Jackson's inability to read the script, and stunning-in-pink Julia Roberts left on the stage at the end meekly saying into the camera, essentially, "That's all, folks!"


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Post by: barton on February 25, 2019, 11:48:31 AM
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Shocker of the evening was not that the most boring film of the year (Roma) did not receive an award...   

Cinematography, directing, foreign film.  Won 3 awards.  So, yes, that wasn't a shocker. 



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Post by: whiskeypriest on February 25, 2019, 12:07:47 PM
The complete non-shocker was that Hollywood's Glory Syndrome, in which the Black experience can best be presented through its effects on White people, is alive and well.
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Post by: barton on February 25, 2019, 03:28:37 PM
Bingo bongo!

Yeah, there were, what, four widely distributed movies that approached the black experience through black people, but the best pic pick was the one that didn't so much.

 
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Post by: HamiltonIII on February 25, 2019, 04:45:46 PM
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Shocker of the evening was not that the most boring film of the year (Roma) did not receive an award...   

Cinematography, directing, foreign film.  Won 3 awards.  So, yes, that wasn't a shocker.

Excuse me THE BEST PICTURE Award...which it had business being nominated for, in the first place.

Glad I could clear that up for you.
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Post by: HamiltonIII on February 25, 2019, 04:49:26 PM
Bingo bongo!

Yeah, there were, what, four widely distributed movies that approached the black experience through black people, but the best pic pick was the one that didn't so much.

Maybe that is because whites are the key to changing the black experience, as they've always been, since 1619.

Btw, is Spike Lee still throwing a hissy fit like some 12 year old girl?

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on February 25, 2019, 08:02:34 PM
Green Book was maybe just intended to be a buddy movie, in which case it may be too modest a movie to really be much concerned with authentic tracking of racial experience, whatever that may be.  My reading of reactions to it, from friends, is that it drew rather uninspiredly on the tropes of Magical Negro and White Saviour, as a way to make it more "accessible."  Usually when I hear that word, I'm hearing about a film that lacks what seems to me to be that special voice that resounds from great movies.

Instead of name-calling, consider the possibility that Lee saw the deficiency I just outlined. 
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Post by: HamiltonIII on February 25, 2019, 10:29:43 PM
Green Book was maybe just intended to be a buddy movie, in which case it may be too modest a movie to really be much concerned with authentic tracking of racial experience, whatever that may be.  My reading of reactions to it, from friends, is that it drew rather uninspiredly on the tropes of Magical Negro and White Saviour, as a way to make it more "accessible."  Usually when I hear that word, I'm hearing about a film that lacks what seems to me to be that special voice that resounds from great movies.

Instead of name-calling, consider the possibility that Lee saw the deficiency I just outlined.

Did you SEE "Green Book", because none of that White Savior BS applies.

It's just a form of  entertainment in which two characters of vastly different types become friends. If anything, the Savior in the movie was the black character, nit the white character. Anyone insisting that there is some litmus test to pass for making a movie involving racially different characters is an idiot, or has his or her own agenda.

Lee is not the final arbiter of art, and merely showed himself to be a stereotypical sore loser.

His statement about losing to someone driving a car every twenty years may have inspired his outfit, though. He was dressed in a purple chauffer's outfit.

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on March 01, 2019, 01:41:17 PM
So aside from a racist mockery of Lee's clothing choices, which pretty much undermines everything else you said on the lofty topic of racism and litmus tests (whatever those are)....where is your evidence he is a sore loser?  Maybe he was just disgusted at the choice of an okay buddy movie for Best Picture.  And honest enough to show his disgust.  Lots of movies are "just a form of entertainment."  That doesn't really qualify them for best picture.  If Guillermo del Toro had registered the same disapproval for the Best Pic choice, what would you have done?  Tell me he's not the final arbiter of art and that he was dressed like a Tijuana pimp? 

And I'm still confused at this strawman "final arbiter of art" - who said anyone is the final arbiter of art?  People have opinions.  Some of them, like Lee, openly express them.  That doesn't mean they are having a "hissy fit....like a 12 year old girl." 

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 01, 2019, 03:22:45 PM
So aside from a racist mockery of Lee's clothing choices, which pretty much undermines everything else you said on the lofty topic of racism and litmus tests (whatever those are)....where is your evidence he is a sore loser?  Maybe he was just disgusted at the choice of an okay buddy movie for Best Picture.  And honest enough to show his disgust.  Lots of movies are "just a form of entertainment."  That doesn't really qualify them for best picture.  If Guillermo del Toro had registered the same disapproval for the Best Pic choice, what would you have done?  Tell me he's not the final arbiter of art and that he was dressed like a Tijuana pimp? 

And I'm still confused at this strawman "final arbiter of art" - who said anyone is the final arbiter of art?  People have opinions.  Some of them, like Lee, openly express them.  That doesn't mean they are having a "hissy fit....like a 12 year old girl."

After presenter Julia Roberts announced “Green Book” as Best Picture, AP reporter Andrew Dalton was one of several journalists who noticed Lee wave his arms in anger before storming out of the theater. However, before he could leave, he was stopped at the doors and was forced to return to his seat once the speeches had stopped.

Jordan Peele, the Oscar-winning writer-director behind last year’s “Get Out,” reportedly didn’t clap either, nor did other attendees nearby.

The backlash appears to be in response to controversy surrounding the film, which had been criticized for perpetuating what some saw as a “white savior” narrative approach to examining race relations.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/spike-lee-oscars-green-book-1203148178/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/spike-lee-oscars-green-book-1203148178/amp/)


You really should know what you are talking about before you express such idiocy as the above.Nothing racist. Anywhere, but in Lee's, and apparently, your minds.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on March 01, 2019, 03:44:54 PM
You're shifting the topic.  I didn't say the film was racist.  I said I understood that some argued that it had a racist cliche or two, and that this opinion was part of their basis for asserting it wasn't best picture.  All you argue, so far, is that anyone who has that opinion and not yours, is an idiot.  That argument is only persuasive if you are somehow sovereign over all our movie viewing and how we may react. 

Nor does informing me that Spike Lee looked angry give me a detailed understanding of his opinions.  Maybe you can make fun of his clothes again or call him a twelve year old girl having a hissy fit.  That'll convince me!

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 01, 2019, 03:54:29 PM
So aside from a racist mockery of Lee's clothing choices, which pretty much undermines everything else you said on the lofty topic of racism and litmus tests (whatever those are)....where is your evidence he is a sore loser?  Maybe he was just disgusted at the choice of an okay buddy movie for Best Picture.  And honest enough to show his disgust.  Lots of movies are "just a form of entertainment."  That doesn't really qualify them for best picture.  If Guillermo del Toro had registered the same disapproval for the Best Pic choice, what would you have done?  Tell me he's not the final arbiter of art and that he was dressed like a Tijuana pimp? 

And I'm still confused at this strawman "final arbiter of art" - who said anyone is the final arbiter of art?  People have opinions.  Some of them, like Lee, openly express them.  That doesn't mean they are having a "hissy fit....like a 12 year old girl."

After presenter Julia Roberts announced “Green Book” as Best Picture, AP reporter Andrew Dalton was one of several journalists who noticed Lee wave his arms in anger before storming out of the theater. However, before he could leave, he was stopped at the doors and was forced to return to his seat once the speeches had stopped.

Jordan Peele, the Oscar-winning writer-director behind last year’s “Get Out,” reportedly didn’t clap either, nor did other attendees nearby.

The backlash appears to be in response to controversy surrounding the film, which had been criticized for perpetuating what some saw as a “white savior” narrative approach to examining race relations.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/spike-lee-oscars-green-book-1203148178/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/spike-lee-oscars-green-book-1203148178/amp/)


You really should know what you are talking about before you express such idiocy as the above.Nothing racist. Anywhere, but in Lee's, and apparently, your minds.

It's as if you didn't even read the quote you  posted!

What do you think "a white savior narrative" is???! It's racist.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: whiskeypriest on March 01, 2019, 04:58:55 PM
So aside from a racist mockery of Lee's clothing choices, which pretty much undermines everything else you said on the lofty topic of racism and litmus tests (whatever those are)....where is your evidence he is a sore loser?  Maybe he was just disgusted at the choice of an okay buddy movie for Best Picture.  And honest enough to show his disgust.  Lots of movies are "just a form of entertainment."  That doesn't really qualify them for best picture.  If Guillermo del Toro had registered the same disapproval for the Best Pic choice, what would you have done?  Tell me he's not the final arbiter of art and that he was dressed like a Tijuana pimp? 

And I'm still confused at this strawman "final arbiter of art" - who said anyone is the final arbiter of art?  People have opinions.  Some of them, like Lee, openly express them.  That doesn't mean they are having a "hissy fit....like a 12 year old girl."

After presenter Julia Roberts announced “Green Book” as Best Picture, AP reporter Andrew Dalton was one of several journalists who noticed Lee wave his arms in anger before storming out of the theater. However, before he could leave, he was stopped at the doors and was forced to return to his seat once the speeches had stopped.

Jordan Peele, the Oscar-winning writer-director behind last year’s “Get Out,” reportedly didn’t clap either, nor did other attendees nearby.

The backlash appears to be in response to controversy surrounding the film, which had been criticized for perpetuating what some saw as a “white savior” narrative approach to examining race relations.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/spike-lee-oscars-green-book-1203148178/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/spike-lee-oscars-green-book-1203148178/amp/)


You really should know what you are talking about before you express such idiocy as the above.Nothing racist. Anywhere, but in Lee's, and apparently, your minds.

It's as if you didn't even read the quote you  posted!

What do you think "a white savior narrative" is???! It's racist.
Hamilton will always - ALWAYS - offer precisely the argument you would expect a racist to make. Including,  " No, YOU'RE a racist" and consistently negatively judging the behavior of black people.

Black persons did not clap for Green Book. White person presenter Brie Larson, for one example, did not clap for Casey Affleck two years ago. Half the white audience protested Elia Kazan's Honorary Oscar by leaving or sitting on their hands.  Guess who Hamilton has a problem with.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 02, 2019, 10:42:45 AM
You're shifting the topic.  I didn't say the film was racist.  I said I understood that some argued that it had a racist cliche or two, and that this opinion was part of their basis for asserting it wasn't best picture.  All you argue, so far, is that anyone who has that opinion and not yours, is an idiot.  That argument is only persuasive if you are somehow sovereign over all our movie viewing and how we may react. 

Nor does informing me that Spike Lee looked angry give me a detailed understanding of his opinions.  Maybe you can make fun of his clothes again or call him a twelve year old girl having a hissy fit.  That'll convince me!


Did you see the fucking movie?

Apparently, not. There's no White Savior in it. There is a black Savior, though.

I didn't inform you Spije looks angry. I informed you he WAS angry.

And he was angry that the movie went to white artists.

And he was dressed as a chauffeur. The end.

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 02, 2019, 10:47:26 AM
So aside from a racist mockery of Lee's clothing choices, which pretty much undermines everything else you said on the lofty topic of racism and litmus tests (whatever those are)....where is your evidence he is a sore loser?  Maybe he was just disgusted at the choice of an okay buddy movie for Best Picture.  And honest enough to show his disgust.  Lots of movies are "just a form of entertainment."  That doesn't really qualify them for best picture.  If Guillermo del Toro had registered the same disapproval for the Best Pic choice, what would you have done?  Tell me he's not the final arbiter of art and that he was dressed like a Tijuana pimp? 

And I'm still confused at this strawman "final arbiter of art" - who said anyone is the final arbiter of art?  People have opinions.  Some of them, like Lee, openly express them.  That doesn't mean they are having a "hissy fit....like a 12 year old girl."

After presenter Julia Roberts announced “Green Book” as Best Picture, AP reporter Andrew Dalton was one of several journalists who noticed Lee wave his arms in anger before storming out of the theater. However, before he could leave, he was stopped at the doors and was forced to return to his seat once the speeches had stopped.

Jordan Peele, the Oscar-winning writer-director behind last year’s “Get Out,” reportedly didn’t clap either, nor did other attendees nearby.

The backlash appears to be in response to controversy surrounding the film, which had been criticized for perpetuating what some saw as a “white savior” narrative approach to examining race relations.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/spike-lee-oscars-green-book-1203148178/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/spike-lee-oscars-green-book-1203148178/amp/)


You really should know what you are talking about before you express such idiocy as the above.Nothing racist. Anywhere, but in Lee's, and apparently, your minds.

It's as if you didn't even read the quote you  posted!

What do you think "a white savior narrative" is???! It's racist.
Hamilton will always - ALWAYS - offer precisely the argument you would expect a racist to make. Including,  " No, YOU'RE a racist" and consistently negatively judging the behavior of black people.

Black persons did not clap for Green Book. White person presenter Brie Larson, for one example, did not clap for Casey Affleck two years ago. Half the white audience protested Elia Kazan's Honorary Oscar by leaving or sitting on their hands.  Guess who Hamilton has a problem with.

Fuck you, altar boy. You don't know shit, other than running around labeling anyone with a different opinion than you as a racist, you pusillanimous, pimple-faced, putrid, piece of anal pus.

Run along and defend the Church and its fudgepackers, you elephant turd.

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on March 02, 2019, 01:13:52 PM
Confused now: is he anal pus or an elephant turd?  Those are two quite different things.

I don't have my copy of Lexicon of Angry American Eight Year Olds handy, atm.

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: whiskeypriest on March 02, 2019, 01:42:07 PM
Confused now: is he anal pus or an elephant turd?  Those are two quite different things.

I don't have my copy of Lexicon of Angry American Eight Year Olds handy, atm.
Like I said, ha.ilton always reacts as a.racist reacts. As in assuming Lee acted as he did not because a specific movie with a typically Hlywood view of race won, but because any white won. Hamilton is white grievance entire. Any racial protest, and he attacks the blacks for it, for the content or the manner of it. White movie after white movis has won the Oscar with no peep from Lee. But Hamilton is always loath to admit any justice to Black protest, where he cannot attack the protest he attacks the protestor.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 02, 2019, 08:46:41 PM
Confused now: is he anal pus or an elephant turd?  Those are two quite different things.

I don't have my copy of Lexicon of Angry American Eight Year Olds handy, atm.
Like I said, ha.ilton always reacts as a.racist reacts. As in assuming Lee acted as he did not because a specific movie with a typically Hlywood view of race won, but because any white won. Hamilton is white grievance entire. Any racial protest, and he attacks the blacks for it, for the content or the manner of it. White movie after white movis has won the Oscar with no peep from Lee. But Hamilton is always loath to admit any justice to Black protest, where he cannot attack the protest he attacks the protestor.

No assumption, chimp smegma.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on March 04, 2019, 12:35:04 AM
I found much to like in Green Book, a warm dip in what may be some fantasy, which does provide a good buddy dramedy and an amusing role reversal.  Seemed like the two guys save each other, to some degree.  I doubt the the pianist, from what i know of musicians (living with them, and being one), actually blew off his final gig.  At the end of the day, you know that hurts the next group who wants a booking there.  And the next.

In a fictional interpretation, however, it delivers an easy feelgood  moment. 

Not a best pic, imo,  but a compelling look at loneliness and oddly matched friends. 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 04, 2019, 01:20:17 PM
I found much to like in Green Book, a warm dip in what may be some fantasy, which does provide a good buddy dramedy and an amusing role reversal.  Seemed like the two guys save each other, to some degree.  I doubt the the pianist, from what i know of musicians (living with them, and being one), actually blew off his final gig.  At the end of the day, you know that hurts the next group who wants a booking there.  And the next.

In a fictional interpretation, however, it delivers an easy feelgood  moment. 

Not a best pic, imo,  but a compelling look at loneliness and oddly matched friends.

So, you realize this positive post on Green Book will make you a racist in the eyes of that fucking displaced to Arizona moralist who continually overlooks the disgusting immoral record of the Catholic Church.

While he gets himself into a lather over a movie, he stays mum on the rape and sexual abuse of women and children.

Sad.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on March 04, 2019, 05:45:47 PM
I can't find a sentence, or even a clause, in your post that seems true. 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: whiskeypriest on March 04, 2019, 06:26:27 PM
I can't find a sentence, or even a clause, in your post that seems true.
I would not worry about it. There is no one whose opinion of me means less to me.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 04, 2019, 10:21:47 PM
I can't find a sentence, or even a clause, in your post that seems true.
I would not worry about it. There is no one whose opinion of me means less to me.

Though likely a couple of folks occupying the same prime real estate.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 04, 2019, 10:29:04 PM
You're shifting the topic.  I didn't say the film was racist.  I said I understood that some argued that it had a racist cliche or two, and that this opinion was part of their basis for asserting it wasn't best picture.  All you argue, so far, is that anyone who has that opinion and not yours, is an idiot.  That argument is only persuasive if you are somehow sovereign over all our movie viewing and how we may react. 

Nor does informing me that Spike Lee looked angry give me a detailed understanding of his opinions.  Maybe you can make fun of his clothes again or call him a twelve year old girl having a hissy fit.  That'll convince me!


Did you see the fucking movie?

Apparently, not. There's no White Savior in it.

Shockingly enough, I will take the dozens of African-Americans' opinions on this over yours.

One of many articles on the topic.
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/30/hollywood-still-loves-a-white-savior-green-book-and-the-lazy-feel-good-take-on-race/
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 06, 2019, 10:10:01 PM
You're shifting the topic.  I didn't say the film was racist.  I said I understood that some argued that it had a racist cliche or two, and that this opinion was part of their basis for asserting it wasn't best picture.  All you argue, so far, is that anyone who has that opinion and not yours, is an idiot.  That argument is only persuasive if you are somehow sovereign over all our movie viewing and how we may react. 

Nor does informing me that Spike Lee looked angry give me a detailed understanding of his opinions.  Maybe you can make fun of his clothes again or call him a twelve year old girl having a hissy fit.  That'll convince me!


Did you see the fucking movie?

Apparently, not. There's no White Savior in it.

Shockingly enough, I will take the dozens of African-Americans' opinions on this over yours.

One of many articles on the topic.
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/30/hollywood-still-loves-a-white-savior-green-book-and-the-lazy-feel-good-take-on-race/

So you did NOT see the movie.

The end.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 07, 2019, 10:47:32 PM
You're shifting the topic.  I didn't say the film was racist.  I said I understood that some argued that it had a racist cliche or two, and that this opinion was part of their basis for asserting it wasn't best picture.  All you argue, so far, is that anyone who has that opinion and not yours, is an idiot.  That argument is only persuasive if you are somehow sovereign over all our movie viewing and how we may react. 

Nor does informing me that Spike Lee looked angry give me a detailed understanding of his opinions.  Maybe you can make fun of his clothes again or call him a twelve year old girl having a hissy fit.  That'll convince me!


Did you see the fucking movie?

Apparently, not. There's no White Savior in it.

Shockingly enough, I will take the dozens of African-Americans' opinions on this over yours.

One of many articles on the topic.
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/30/hollywood-still-loves-a-white-savior-green-book-and-the-lazy-feel-good-take-on-race/

So you did NOT see the movie.

The end.

So, I saw the movie - and I understood the movie. But I still defer to the judgment of others over yours.

And had I thought as you thought and they had chimed in as they did, I would have reassessed my opinion.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 08, 2019, 04:57:22 PM
Well, you are easily influenced by others. Perhaps some day you'll learn to think for yourself.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 08, 2019, 05:32:40 PM
Well, you are easily influenced by others. Perhaps some day you'll learn to think for yourself.

You are still a bigot and as far as I can tell there is zero chance that you will learn to listen to those who know more than you.

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 08, 2019, 06:54:40 PM
Because you know more than me, right, Professor? Naaah....you just like to threaten to ban people for telling the truth.

Bite me.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 08, 2019, 07:20:12 PM
Because you know more than me, right, Professor? Naaah....you just like to threaten to ban people for telling the truth.

Bite me.


No, Piggy. Because they know more than either of us.

But I figured that would be too subtle for you, in your haste to defend your bigotry.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 09, 2019, 09:45:44 AM
Taking a page from Lazy AZ Steve? Can't win an argument on it's merits? Label your opponent as a racist or bigot.

So, tell us, Joshie. Why did your wife leave you?
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: whiskeypriest on March 09, 2019, 12:09:17 PM
Taking a page from Lazy AZ Steve? Can't win an argument on it's merits? Label your opponent as a racist or bigot.

So, tell us, Joshie. Why did your wife leave you?
It is merits? What is that supposed to mean, you fucking racist troll.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 09, 2019, 02:29:43 PM
Taking a page from Lazy AZ Steve? Can't win an argument on it's merits? Label your opponent as a racist or bigot.

So, tell us, Joshie. Why did your wife leave you?

Changing your argument, since you lost your way on the last one?

Piggy, you should stick to simpler questions like "when did you stop beating your wife?"

The argument about whether there is a white savior character in Green Book is the basis for the immediate observation that you are a racist, but you've been demonstrating that for years, now. It's not a new observation relative to this argument, merely one you illustrate anew.

Your decision to pretend that Michael Jackson is relevant to the discussion is just further proof.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 10, 2019, 08:28:48 AM
See? Joshie. Your "arguments" always boil down to the same concept. If one doesnt "get" or agree with you, they are a racist/bigot.

How sad that you lean on such a worn out crutch.

But again, why did she leave? Was it the scruffy, greying, beard that was perpetually reaking of the scent of Fritos? Was it the craft beer gut that seemed to grow larger with each successive day? Or was it the pictures she found in your phone that bankshit accidentally forwarded to you?

It's okay. You can share with us. We are here to support you.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: whiskeypriest on March 10, 2019, 09:35:05 AM
Consider for a moment the possibility that the reason people call you a racist or a bigot is not because you disagree with them, but that over the roughly 20 years you have been posting here or the NYT you have demonstrated again and again 5hat YOU ARE A RACIST AND A BIGOT. It is not the one thing. It is the dismal tide.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 10, 2019, 01:39:05 PM
Consider for a moment the possibility that the reason people call you a racist or a bigot is not because you disagree with them, but that over the roughly 20 years you have been posting here or the NYT you have demonstrated again and again 5hat YOU ARE A RACIST AND A BIGOT. It is not the one thing. It is the dismal tide.

He's rejected that.

His opinions are all well-founded, in his opinion, and he is better able to judge if a movie is about a white savior than any number of African-Americans are. Just ask him.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 10, 2019, 01:48:15 PM
See? Joshie. Your "arguments" always boil down to the same concept. If one doesnt "get" or agree with you, they are a racist/bigot.

How sad that you lean on such a worn out crutch.

But again, why did she leave? Was it the scruffy, greying, beard that was perpetually reaking of the scent of Fritos? Was it the craft beer gut that seemed to grow larger with each successive day? Or was it the pictures she found in your phone that bankshit accidentally forwarded to you?

It's okay. You can share with us. We are here to support you.

You think that shifting to fake personal attacks is better?

You make up stories about us, then spread them as if they were true.

You are a bigot, but you are also a liar, Piggy. And the day anybody here except Bambi would expect you to provide emotional support to them during a trying time would be shortly after Donald Trump admitted he is mentally ill, Putin apologized for taking over Crimea and returned it, and Kim Jong Un renounced his current form of government and strong arm tactics and stepped down after converting his country to a democracy.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on March 10, 2019, 01:59:31 PM
Go fuck yourself, Joshie.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on March 10, 2019, 02:15:39 PM
Go fuck yourself, Joshie.

Zzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on March 13, 2019, 01:58:14 PM
"Ma'am, I answered your question! I answered the darned... I'm cooperatin' here!"   

Quote
Huffman posted a $250,000 bond after an appearance in federal court in Los Angeles. Her husband, actor William H. Macy, has not been charged, though an FBI agent stated in an affidavit that he was in the room when Huffman first heard the pitch from a scam insider.   
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: FlyingVProd on March 16, 2019, 12:28:50 AM
DREAM FACTORY

How Women Built Early Hollywood – And Transformed Los Angeles

Hilary A. Hallett  

November 7, 2017 

https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/how-women-built-early-hollywood-and-transformed-los-angeles

----------

Women make up a huge percentage of people in the entertainment industry. And when I worked at Universal, a woman hired me, and a woman was my boss.

Salute,

Tony V.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: FlyingVProd on April 28, 2019, 02:34:23 PM
Anaheim needs to have a film and television industry, we have the Dodge Film School at Chapman, and we need for the film students to be able to work in Anaheim after they graduate.

And a good place for a studio in Anaheim is by the Julianna warehouse, the only bad thing is the proximity of the railroad tracks. There can also be filmmaking equipment rentals, etc, etc, etc. 

The city of Anaheim also needs to make it easy to get permits for filming. 

Southern California has some great film schools, and some great acting schools, etc, and we need for the students to be able to find employment after they graduate.

Anaheim needs to have an entertainment industry, and we need a studio, and equipment rentals.

Salute,

Tony V.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on May 03, 2019, 09:11:34 AM
"Still" is a 2018 indie film shot in Georgia and set on a remote farm near the Appalachian Trail.  Very atmospheric but you can see the "mystery" of the farmer couple coming a mile away.  Diverting bit of allegory, but sort of clunky and annoying in the way characters decline to ask obvious questions that real people ask in those situations. 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: FlyingVProd on May 14, 2019, 04:18:27 PM
Tim Conway was great, "The Apple Dumpling Gang" was some of my favorite work that he did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFv57wptS38

May he rest in peace.

Salute,

Tony V.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: FlyingVProd on May 17, 2019, 05:48:14 PM
The Cannes Film Festival is going on right now.

https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/

The first Cannes Film Festival was on my Mother's Birthday.

I went to the Cannes Film Festival in 2000, a film titled "Dancer in the Dark" won the Palm d' Or that year.

I stayed at the Hotel Mondial, it was great, I could see the ocean from my balcony, the hotel is owned by Best Western now, I am not sure who owned it then.

http://www.hotellemondial.com/en/

I would love to go to the Cannes Film Festival every year.

Salute,

Tony V.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: whiskeypriest on June 11, 2019, 05:48:20 PM
Someone tell me this is actually happening:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10095582/
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on June 12, 2019, 06:40:02 PM
A Joel-Ethan bifurcation?  Zounds!

The project's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the pages of Variety... and then is heard no more.   

Of course, I might have doubted once the fast food version with Christopher Walken. 

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on June 13, 2019, 01:09:25 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/may/26/rocketman-review-right-spectacle-elton-john

Good biopic/musical.  And the second movie I've seen that uses "Tiny Dancer" to good effect.  (gold star, if you can guess the other one)  As well as deftly weaving in other selections from the John/Taupin playlist, perfectly capturing the mood.



Title: Re: Movies
Post by: whiskeypriest on June 13, 2019, 01:44:31 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/may/26/rocketman-review-right-spectacle-elton-john

Good biopic/musical.  And the second movie I've seen that uses "Tiny Dancer" to good effect.  (gold star, if you can guess the other one)  As well as deftly weaving in other selections from the John/Taupin playlist, perfectly capturing the mood.
Almost Famous.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on June 13, 2019, 08:01:02 PM
"My son has been kidnapped by rock stars."

I liked EJ lyrics partly because they are distinctive....I often have trouble remembering rock lyrics exactly, but there are a dozen John songs I can easily recall in their entirety.   Even ones that got little airplay like "Grimsby. "
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on June 19, 2019, 12:24:00 PM
JOSH,

The Third Eye film forum might be closing, and archiving itself (with the Wayback Machine or whatever), and some there wondered if Elba could accommodate them (it's about six active members left).  That would involve adding a couple more film threads (but wouldn't need to transport any posts, just start fresh ones). 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Hairy Lime on June 19, 2019, 12:57:58 PM
JOSH,

The Third Eye film forum might be closing, and archiving itself (with the Wayback Machine or whatever), and some there wondered if Elba could accommodate them (it's about six active members left).  That would involve adding a couple more film threads (but wouldn't need to transport any posts, just start fresh ones).
Wait... they let you in?
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on June 19, 2019, 04:09:49 PM
Hahaha!  I'm "Knox" over at Elba, where I peek in intermittently.   Last I heard, the real OCB was raising four kids and busy with career and all.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Hairy Lime on June 19, 2019, 06:38:50 PM
Who is there who is not here? Billy? Syd?

Current Film
Couch With a View

We already have trivia, Lobby is basically the rest of Elba. What else.gets used?
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on June 19, 2019, 08:16:05 PM
Bill, Syd, Carol, Ghulam, Befade.  Grace stops by semiannually.   Yambu has vanished.

Bo, Oil, me,  Mr. Ferris Wheeler, already here. 

Yeah, Couch and Current should cover it.   

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on June 26, 2019, 06:45:46 AM
"An American Woman". Oscar nomination for Sienna Miller's performance is due.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on June 26, 2019, 11:54:08 AM
Haven't yet had the pleasure, but you had me at "Sienna Miller."  She's been terrific in everything I've seen her in.


Rewatched Sita Sings the Blues, again.  Damn I love this film.  The Ramayana, and the bluesy torch songs that Annette Hanshaw sang in the 20s/30s, dovetail perfectly.  Superb and whimsical animation, great music, witty voiceovers from Indian-Americans who were steeped, or at least briefly dunked, in the Ramayana growing up, and a sad but redemptive breakup story - movies don't get more watchable, or rewatchable, than this gem.  Seen it four times now, and plan to see it four more at least before they apply my toe-tag. 

Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Hairy Lime on June 26, 2019, 03:25:06 PM
Haven't yet had the pleasure, but you had me at "Sienna Miller."  She's been terrific in everything I've seen her in.


Rewatched Sita Sings the Blues, again.  Damn I love this film.  The Ramayana, and the bluesy torch songs that Annette Hanshaw sang in the 20s/30s, dovetail perfectly.  Superb and whimsical animation, great music, witty voiceovers from Indian-Americans who were steeped, or at least briefly dunked, in the Ramayana growing up, and a sad but redemptive breakup story - movies don't get more watchable, or rewatchable, than this gem.  Seen it four times now, and plan to see it four more at least before they apply my toe-tag.
Still fully and freely downloadable.  Still my favorite animated film this century, if not of all time.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Hairy Lime on June 26, 2019, 03:28:44 PM
Assemble the Monkey Warriors!

https://youtu.be/cgbp6AtU8Hw
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: HamiltonIII on June 26, 2019, 03:54:57 PM
Haven't yet had the pleasure, but you had me at "Sienna Miller."  She's been terrific in everything I've seen her in.


Rewatched Sita Sings the Blues, again.  Damn I love this film.  The Ramayana, and the bluesy torch songs that Annette Hanshaw sang in the 20s/30s, dovetail perfectly.  Superb and whimsical animation, great music, witty voiceovers from Indian-Americans who were steeped, or at least briefly dunked, in the Ramayana growing up, and a sad but redemptive breakup story - movies don't get more watchable, or rewatchable, than this gem.  Seen it four times now, and plan to see it four more at least before they apply my toe-tag.

It's her best performance, evvahh!
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on July 11, 2019, 01:05:47 PM
Burn After Reading - saw this again, and had that mixed feeling of laughing really hard while feeling pretty bad for most of the characters, especially the lovelorn Richard Jenkins (as the gym manager).  Nothing makes sense, as Greek chorister JK Simmons notes, and there is no justice, and no one seems to learn anything useful.  Most are dead, or embedded in a paranoid shell in Argentina.  The fact that the Coens can make this so entertaining, and poke some fine fun at American narcissism and body-image obsessions, speaks to their skill as filmmakers.  And how can one not love that Brad Pitt, who usually plays fairly savvy fellows, here embraces and owns the role of absolute knucklehead. 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 11, 2019, 01:52:29 PM
Burn After Reading - saw this again, and had that mixed feeling of laughing really hard while feeling pretty bad for most of the characters, especially the lovelorn Richard Jenkins (as the gym manager).  Nothing makes sense, as Greek chorister JK Simmons notes, and there is no justice, and no one seems to learn anything useful.  Most are dead, or embedded in a paranoid shell in Argentina.  (Venezuela) The fact that the Coens can make this so entertaining, and poke some fine fun at American narcissism and body-image obsessions, speaks to their skill as filmmakers.  And how can one not love that Brad Pitt, who usually plays fairly savvy fellows, here embraces and owns the role of absolute knucklehead.
JK Simmons is high on my list of great Coen brothers minor characters who run off with all or part of the movie. Right up there with the noir cops in Barton Fink. I would recommend the movie just to watch him in his two.scenes. That, and the way the photo of Putin looks over the shoulder of the Russian Embassy functionary.

I don't think the movie means much, but it is a hoot. Great performances. (According to Pitt, he told the Coens he was not sure he could play a character so utterly clueless. There response: a brief pause, and then, You'll be fine).

Though I would dispute one thing: the only person I felt any sympathy for.was Jenkins's character.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on July 12, 2019, 12:26:34 PM
" I have a drinking problem? Fuck you, Peck! You're a Mormon! Next to you, we all have a drinking problem!"

Still haven't seen Dermot Mulroney in "Coming Up Daisy."  On my must-see list....right next to "Home for Purim." 

Jenkins was the only truly sympathetic role, for sure, and is great off the blocks with his "I'm not comfortable with this" scene.  His axing, at the end, is your pure anti-Hollywood gesture - the one decent human being obliterated by Cox who, at that point, seems to be part of the machinery of an absurd universe with a god that is looking the other way. 

Simmons is one of those character actors who can arch an eyebrow, frown skeptically, and put the audience in stitches.  Not that I didn't also like him as a total bastard in "Whiplash." 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Hairy Lime on July 12, 2019, 02:25:08 PM
Having heartily disliked his BFF Oscar Winner Ida, I approached Pawel Pawelkowski's Cold War with some trepidation. What I got was a beautiful (B&W, academy ratio, interesting changes in contrasts and background focus as the move progressed), passionate, musical and lyrical story of ill-matched obsessed love. Great acting - Joanna Kulig is a force. Loved it.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: josh on July 13, 2019, 04:36:44 PM
JOSH,

The Third Eye film forum might be closing, and archiving itself (with the Wayback Machine or whatever), and some there wondered if Elba could accommodate them (it's about six active members left).  That would involve adding a couple more film threads (but wouldn't need to transport any posts, just start fresh ones).

Sorry! I missed this.

By all means and let me know what you need added, okay?
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: oilcan on July 15, 2019, 07:12:34 PM
Thanks.   I passed along your welcoming words to Third Eye.   They seem to be still unsure what they're doing.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: FlyingVProd on August 15, 2019, 01:04:49 PM
USC film school is rated as the best film school by the Hollywood Reporter...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/top-25-american-film-schools-ranked-1231343/item/2019-top-25-film-schools-usc-1231345

NYU came in second.

And Chapman should be third, but instead they put Chapman as seventh.

Salute,

Tony V.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on August 17, 2019, 03:50:49 PM
RIP Peter Fonda.   His passage sadly noted here in the Black Hills.  He often showed up at the bike rally in Sturgis.  In many films I didn't see, but also in films I did see and liked, like Ulee's Gold, The Limey, and of course ER. 
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: FlyingVProd on September 13, 2019, 03:07:53 PM
I noticed that Disney has made a new film, "Maleficent, Mistress of Evil," and there is a new film "Joker," and I wonder why they are all focusing on the villains instead of focusing on the good heroes like the old days.

Films are supposed to bring out the best in us, and they are supposed to give the kids good role models to look up to, like Roy Rogers, and the Lone Ranger, etc.

I need to start making movies, so that I can make movies my way.

Although, my film "Echo, A Rock and Roll Tragedy" will not be a good film for children, and will be rated "R."

I want to make a bunch of love stories. And really, "Echo" is a love story.

And I may make a movie about Lech Walesa, who is a hero.

We will see what I can do...

Salute,

Tony V.
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: Hairy Lime on September 13, 2019, 03:13:24 PM
The late, great Andrzej Wajda beat you to it.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2113820/
Title: Re: Movies
Post by: barton on September 21, 2019, 11:20:25 PM
Lolita

Though I read the novel eons ago, I realized neither of us had seen the movie.   Despite some mixed feelings about the sanitizing process Kubrick was forced into by production codes, the quality of the performances make it worth seeing, with memorable swerves between creepy and comedic.   Shelley Winters is amazing as usual  -- predatory, pretentious, volatile, and whiny.   Though looking a bit run down at the end.

Given that Sue Lyon was 15 by the time production ended, and easily passed for 17 (movie Lolita is in high school, not the 11 year old of the novel), the pedophile aspect is considerably watered down.   

Some reservations about Sellers in this - his "Quilty" often has the feel of an actor amusing cast and crew with over-the-top riffs on other movie roles where he does funny accents, rather than something that really belongs in the film.   That Humbert can't recognize Quilty when he impersonates Dr. Strangelove a German psychologist is a bit improbable, and pulled me out of the movie a little.   The scene where Quilty poses as a state policeman is just annoying and ridiculous.