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International => Western Europe => Topic started by: Admin on April 16, 2007, 09:04:40 PM

Title: Western Europe
Post by: Admin on April 16, 2007, 09:04:40 PM
Discuss Western European politics.

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: fdelangre on April 23, 2007, 07:10:21 PM

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: Bob on April 23, 2007, 10:42:17 PM
How about a discussion of the French Elections?

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Post by: thebizneverloses on April 30, 2007, 02:42:45 PM
If Royal does indeed intend to appoint Bayrou as her PM, I'd prefer her to Sarkozy, whom I fear will cause too much social upheaval to bring about the necessary economic reforms. Bayrou would have been an ideal candidate.

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: Dzimas on May 11, 2007, 08:05:26 AM
An end of an era as Blair announces he will step down as PM.  It was interesting to hear that Gordon Brown, the heir apparent, is largely responsible for the British economic revival, not Blair, but then Blair has done some pretty amazing things these past years, including pushing through devolution resulting in independent parliaments and finally a semi-autonomous government in Northern Ireland.  However, Iraq will continue to hang around his neck like an albatross.  It was interesting to hear Fischer note that Blair missed a golden opportunity in forging a stronger EU by going along with the war in Iraq.  Instead, the EU became ever more deeply divided, and seems it will remain so with conservatives like Sarkozy rising to the fore.

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Post by: srnich on May 11, 2007, 03:51:05 PM
Bush is more alone than ever....

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Post by: liquidsilver on May 11, 2007, 04:00:37 PM
He still has Armenia....

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: Dzimas on May 12, 2007, 12:54:33 AM
At this point, I don't think Bush cares.  He struck the bilateral agreements he was looking for, including the recent ones that allow him to deploy his so-called missile defense system in Eastern Europe.  He also has pretty much been able to sidestep the International Court with numerous bilateral agreements that would allow for the extradition of any Americans brought up on charges.  What gets me is how Bush has been successfully able to play the East against the West, and even divide the West like he did during the build-up to the Iraq War.  His administration also had his fun and games with the dollar in trying to break the euro. Pure Machiavelli.  I suppose history will reward him as a shrewd tactician if nothing else, but this is more a result of the nexus of neo-cons that influence his administration (like Wolfowitz and Pearle) than it is Bush who probably couldn't name all the members of the EU even if he had a map of Europe in front of him.

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: Dzimas on May 12, 2007, 12:55:36 AM
Extradition being the wrong word there.  I meant safe passage out of Europe.

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Post by: fdelangre on May 15, 2007, 06:57:04 PM

Sarkozy proposed to several former socialist ministers to be ministers in his government : Claude Allègre (former Education minister), Hubert Védrine (former foreign minister of Mitterrand and Jospin), Bernard Kouchner (former Health minister, who founded the NGO Doctors Without Boundaries -MSF)

It's only a political tactic, but very clever.

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: thebizneverloses on May 16, 2007, 03:39:21 PM
I wonder how many of those Socialist and Centrist ministers stay after the upcoming legislative elections?

Also, can we start a pool on the first banlieu riots now that Sarko is in power?

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on July 08, 2007, 12:54:59 PM
Should be right about now, this summer, when the better provided leave on their vacances.

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on August 31, 2007, 05:15:48 PM
obertray, where ever you are Labor-Daying,

"In the Decade Since
The fact is that Diana, Princess of Wales, was an imperfect
human being, like all of us, who married into a family of
imperfect beings."

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: FlyingVProd on October 24, 2007, 10:09:14 PM
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Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on November 10, 2007, 11:21:53 AM

Fabrice never left Paris or Western Europe, except for his summer vacations to Montecarlo (he sent some wonderful photos of his June 2007 vacance downloaded of the entire region like St.Jean les Pins,etc.)and, although, he also gets around to islands off Italy, for religious ordination of a friend,etc. , or to the countryside overlooking Ludwig's Bavarian Castle, he remains at the Labor Bureau overlooking the Luxembourg Gardens.  I last "saw" him, theoretically, on-line while he was campaigning in France's Spring Election for his party and he wanted to know the results coming in of opinion in a forum that he began, so I "babysat" on-line (isabel_k was there, so you know how that goes).

So although he signed up here and is on the membership list, and told me to sign up and possibly a few others, he has never posted as far as I've noticed.

Other than the immediate above remarks.

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on November 28, 2007, 12:21:15 AM
Paris Suburb Riots  A Lot Worse Than 2005

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on December 02, 2007, 10:15:52 PM
Belgium looks still more likely to be split into more than one country
after the man expected to be the next prime minister resigned. Flemish
Christian Democrat leader Yves Leterme had spent almost six months
since the country's last election trying to form a coalition
government. (Observer,,2220544,00.html

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Post by: liquidsilver on December 07, 2007, 11:27:35 PM

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on December 08, 2007, 03:10:28 AM

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Post by: madupont on January 07, 2008, 02:43:48 PM
February wedding for Sarkozy and Bruni

Do you suppose they will invite all the Bushes whom Nick has impressed with his nononsense anti-Socialism(Not to mention, giving up his Muslim girl-friends among his co-workers in the administration where of course he is boss; all for the sake of marriage and a normal family life again).

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Post by: luee on January 11, 2008, 05:05:42 PM
Penguins invade England turning sections into no go areas;


Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on January 27, 2008, 06:35:34 PM
Nicolas Sarkozy filed a hair and beauty bill for his presidential campaign that was "manifestly excessive", according to the French commission for electoral funding. (Observer)

See, Celebreality for accompanying sillyness....

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on February 03, 2008, 12:27:38 AM
The marriage has taken place in Paris, Pres. and Mme Sarkozy having tied the knot.  I am not placing a link at this point because when I encountered the news, the reactions in commentary posted were in such poor taste. The lack of civility in this country,the US, has reached an all time low that became obvious somewhere between the Heath Ledger obituaries and the Sarkozy wedding.  Americans have  become acrimoniously hateful people without any reticence about being ignorant and rude.

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: luee on February 13, 2008, 01:39:48 PM
Just what is going on in Denmark? Three mujadeen are caught planning to murder a 75 year old cartoonist for houris in space but two are set free and sent home to Tunisia.

Title: Re: Western Europe
Post by: madupont on February 20, 2008, 03:04:59 PM
UK ? I'm OK,696,germans-say-nein-to-president-blair,18055,623,blairs-new-job-takes-earnings-to-7m-a-year,15126,558,tony-blair-gets-a-bank-job,12125

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Post by: madupont on March 03, 2008, 11:59:19 PM
Letters to the editor, from The New York Times
The Many Loves of Nicolas Sarkozy
March 2, 2008

 Re “Sex in the Cities” (column, New York Times on the Web, Feb. 25):

Roger Cohen points to the seeming reversal in the way that Americans and the French regard their leaders’ love lives, concluding: “So, for a dose of uptight God-fearing morality, try the Rive Gauche. But if you want to get a little loose and louche, take to the Potomac. “

To describe the thrice-married Nicolas Sarkozy as representing “uptight God-fearing morality” seems a bit of a stretch.

Likewise, having watched the American presidential candidates, particularly the Republican ones, stumbling over themselves in the debates to outdo the others in the strength of their belief in God and the Bible, their loyal spouses standing dutifully by, I don’t think that “loose and louche” are the adjectives that come immediately to mind.

Charles W. Magill
Pornic, France, Feb. 26, 2008

To the Editor:

Roger Cohen suggests that the French are upset by President Nicolas Sarkozy’s recent marriage to Carla Bruni because “Sarkozy has devalued an institution they respect — marriage — by bouncing from one wife to another.”

It seems more likely, however, that what most upset the French about this affair is how it has devalued a different institution — the presidency — which the French respect even more.

Common to all of Mr. Sarkozy’s controversial acts since he became ”président de la République,” as the French say with no little awe, is a pattern of consistently vulgar behavior: cheapening an institution that since it was created by Charles de Gaulle has been imbued with a quasi-mystical quality once associated with the French monarchy.

It would be ironic indeed if Mr. Sarkozy, avatar of the French right, were to prove responsible for eliminating once and for all the shreds of the monarchist legacy still lingering in French political culture.

François Furstenberg
Montreal, Feb. 25, 2008

Title: Re: Western Europe Sarkozy again?
Post by: madupont on March 17, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
Sarko's pre-Windsor makeover,778,sarkozy-takes-etiquette-lessons-to-meet-queen,21722,714,sarkozy-cuts-short-visit-to-queen,18662

Sarko loses cool with ‘dumb ass’ voter,710,sarkos-farm-show-slanging-match,18503

Title: Re: Western Europe Luee
Post by: madupont on March 30, 2008, 07:59:18 PM
"A leaked Home Office report reveals that hundreds of illegal immigrants, some of them criminals or suspected criminals, are working in care homes in Britain. In some homes, more than half the care staff entered the UK illegally. The report was compiled two years ago, but has been not been prioritised for action in the interest of costs, according to un-named officials. Shadow Home Secretary David Davis accused the Home Office of turning a "blind eye" to the situation." (Sunday Times)

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Post by: madupont on April 06, 2008, 06:33:29 PM

Sarkozy said to be ‘considering’ Olympic boycott
The French minister of culture, Rama Yade, has been quoted as saying that President Nicolas Sarkozy is considering boycotting the opening of the Beijing Olympic Games, unless China agrees to release political prisoners and talk to the Dalai Lama. She later said she was misquoted, but the debate is thought to be a sign of differences amongst Western governments in their attitude to the Games. 

Artist and Rolling Stones guitarist Ronnie Wood has persuaded French president Nicolas Sarkozy to sit for a solo portrait. (Sunday Telegraph)

Title: Chaos as petrol supplies run dry
Post by: madupont on April 27, 2008, 07:50:17 PM
Chaos as petrol supplies run dry
Petrol stations have been rationing fuel, and some have run out altogether, after the Grangemouth refinery in Scotland closed down due to industrial action. Panic buying across Scotland, the north of England and parts of Wales led to queues and shortages. Seven tankers carrying 65,000 tonnes of fuel are heading for the UK to ease the shortage, but oil and gas industry leaders have urged the Government to intervene in the dispute.
(Independent on Sunday)

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Post by: madupont on April 27, 2008, 10:52:17 PM

(it has to do with a pension of course....)

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Post by: madupont on May 21, 2008, 08:28:53 PM
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The hotel is in the historic center of Rome, and everything is close by, and they have subways, trains, and buses, for further travel. To get to the Ivanhoe Hotel from the Leonardo Da Vinci Airport after you arrive, you can ride the train from the airport to Termini Station, and then it is a short distance to the hotel, easily walking distance but it depends on the amount of luggage that you have to carry. To get to the Vatican from the Ivanhoe Hotel, you just get on the subway, and you can get to the Vatican on the subway system. You can also get to Cinecitta on the subway system, etc.

And that area has many great places to eat and drink, etc. It is a great area.

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I lived right across the street from the Saint Louis College of Music.

You can have a great vacation which you will remember for your whole life, while spending very little money. 


Tony V. 

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