Escape from Elba

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Title: Giants
Post by: Administrator on July 30, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
What moves will the Giants make this offseason?
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on August 09, 2018, 11:15:21 PM
Looks like another long season after the smackdown by the lowly Browns.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: Yankguy1 on August 10, 2018, 08:18:20 AM
 A practice game in the first week of August with the vast majority of the playing time given to guys who won't play a down this regular season is some sort of predictor? Wow. Tough crowd.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on August 30, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Diva WRs seldom lead to titles. I would have traded OBJ for at least a one.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on September 10, 2018, 05:32:00 PM
Five years now waiting for Eli to return to form. Just too old and beat up.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on September 17, 2018, 01:47:34 AM
When are the Maras going to finally figure it out? Not the coaches, not the oline, not the RBs, or WRs.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on October 07, 2018, 11:49:32 PM
Ok the Drew Lock draft.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiiidcarter8 on October 08, 2018, 09:14:01 AM
Five years now waiting for Eli to return to form. Just too old and beat up.



Heh

96.6 passer rating
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiiidcarter8 on October 08, 2018, 09:15:08 AM
What?  That's a career high?

Ok
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: Yankguy1 on October 08, 2018, 05:13:00 PM
Which, given the huge run-up in passing numbers this year for everybody, makes him the same average QB he's been for the last several years.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: MrUtley3 on October 08, 2018, 09:35:29 PM
Holy Tom Dempsey, that's a sucky way to lose.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on October 12, 2018, 01:20:25 AM
Eli should just retire now and stop embarrassing everyone. HOF career now dragged into the mud. Just a five yard dinker and dunker now.

---Are the champs back? Eagles look dominant in steamrolling Giants---
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on October 13, 2018, 07:50:10 AM
---Behind closed doors, several Giants players have expressed frustration with Manning’s performance, according to sources. One player specifically commented recently about Manning’s inability to do anything against Cover 2 and zone defenses.---

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-giants-players-getting-frustrated-eli-mannings-performance-220738501.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/report-giants-players-getting-frustrated-eli-mannings-performance-220738501.html)

I love the HOFer Eli but it is clear he just is not the same QB he was in his twenties. You can look for scapegoats blame the coaches or the OL but the truth is the game has passed him by. The front office has hitched their wagon to a fallen star. He is 32nd and last in YPA.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiiidcarter8 on December 16, 2018, 03:15:39 PM
---Behind closed doors, several Giants players have expressed frustration with Manning’s performance, according to sources. One player specifically commented recently about Manning’s inability to do anything against Cover 2 and zone defenses.---

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-giants-players-getting-frustrated-eli-mannings-performance-220738501.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/report-giants-players-getting-frustrated-eli-mannings-performance-220738501.html)

I love the HOFer Eli but it is clear he just is not the same QB he was in his twenties. You can look for scapegoats blame the coaches or the OL but the truth is the game has passed him by. The front office has hitched their wagon to a fallen star. He is 32nd and last in YPA.

Nah

Having quite a solid year

Tough conditions today.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiiidcarter8 on December 16, 2018, 03:16:58 PM
I guess you loved the headline today

Giants Expect To Keep Manning For 2019
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiiidcarter8 on December 29, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Needed that Iowa State 2 of conversion

3-4 entering today

Taking Michigan, Oke and ND.
Title: 2019 Draft
Post by: Kam on March 04, 2019, 01:33:08 PM
Everyone expects NYG to take a QB in the 1st round.

But y tho?

The team has a lot of needs and the may as well extend their QB in place.  (Renegotiate the deal offer another year for a smaller cap hit)

BPA.

LB.


Title: Olivier Vernon traded
Post by: Kam on March 08, 2019, 04:23:51 PM
for a former #1 draft pick and highest paid ever RG
Giants save 1.5 mil on the 2019 cap.

Once DG signs a RT in FA and drafts a couple backups in the 5th rd, the O-Line will be completely re-built.

Eli will have a line to defend him and Saquaon will have bigger holes to exploit.

1st round, will be either an Edge Rusher or OLB.

Sweat. or White.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiidcarter8 on March 09, 2019, 04:07:23 PM
Yeah.....defense makes sense at #1

I like the idea of looking at the U Buffalo QB
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: Kam on April 01, 2019, 07:15:23 PM
Yeah.....defense makes sense at #1

I like the idea of looking at the U Buffalo QB

Giants are looking closely at the Duke QB Daniel Jones.

Regarding Josh Rosen the Giants do not want to trade any of their first three picks for him (6, 17, 37)

They are also wary of Rosen wanting to start right away and creating a controversy with Eli, who was promised to start.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: CaptainCargo on April 25, 2019, 09:13:40 PM
My team is run by the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: Kam on April 26, 2019, 04:41:20 PM
Yeah.....defense makes sense at #1

I like the idea of looking at the U Buffalo QB

Giants are looking closely at the Duke QB Daniel Jones.


Jones is the pick.  Giants pass on Haskins. 

The word was the Skins would take Jones if the Giants took Haskins.

So the criticism is that the Giants did not trade up from 17 or down from 6 to get Jones and more.

Valid criticism of DG.

End of the world? 

Nope.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: CaptainCargo on April 26, 2019, 05:47:04 PM
If Allen turns out to be a superstar and Jones a bust Gettleman will be gone. So of course he's going to say Jones could sit for three years.


Lawrence might be a good pick. Did we give up too much to get the CB? Probably.

Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on May 03, 2019, 05:31:27 AM
Guess DG was picked because he bought the Eli koolaid. Sub-standard QBing for the past half decade. Dont think Jones is the answer. Giant could be like the Lions of the Barry Sanders era?
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiidcarter8 on May 03, 2019, 09:14:22 AM
Hmmm

Maybe

Wouldnt kill the Giants to not win a title in the Barkley era.  Lets see them just get back to playoff football.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiidcarter8 on May 03, 2019, 09:19:19 AM
10 years for Barry


12-4
10-6
10-6
9-7
9-7



7-9
6-10
5-11
5-11
5-11


Crushed Cowboys, lost to Redskins in the 12-4 year.


Could have had better coaching
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: whiskeypriest on May 03, 2019, 01:09:28 PM
Well, also better players and better drafting. Cf., Andre Ware.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on September 10, 2019, 04:29:13 PM
Giants just get worse. Bad owners seem to end up in NY. Terrible team effort, little talent.
Title: Giants Bench Eli
Post by: Kam on September 17, 2019, 10:14:45 AM
Sad for #10.   Happy for Big Blue.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on September 25, 2019, 11:56:33 AM
Have not seen a jint QB run around like that in some time. How slow is too slow. Eli is 5 years too slow. Just too easy too defend.
Title: Re: Giants Bench Eli
Post by: kiidcarter8 on September 25, 2019, 12:07:42 PM
Sad for #10.   Happy for Big Blue.

Dont be sad

a)  happens to everyone
b)  we may see Manning in a game this year

At least Eli was a losing (record) QB when he was demoted - unlike Kurt Warner
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on October 01, 2019, 10:48:38 AM
Looks like Mcadoo was right Jints needed a change at signal caller.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: Kam on October 09, 2019, 09:49:22 AM
Problem with this team is outside of the front 3 the defense is atrocious.

The first rd pick DL Dexter Lawrence is a gem.   Thanks Odell.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on December 06, 2019, 08:32:41 AM
Ok nostalgia buffs Eli is back. Mara is a teflon god, Seven straight years of mostly terrible football and the coach still gets blamed. Still caught up in the 40's and 50's.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kidcarter8 on December 10, 2019, 03:09:06 PM
Giants were begging to get beaten but Giants wouldn't let it happen

- LaGreca on ESPN Radio NY
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on December 10, 2019, 06:15:49 PM
You mean Eagles? Eli was good for a half than iggles adjusted.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: Kam on December 11, 2019, 01:38:41 AM
You mean Eagles? Eli was good for a half than iggles adjusted.

Shurmur has no adjustments.  He's a coordinator.  Not a HC.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on December 13, 2019, 02:11:22 PM
old school jints fired jenkins. Nice losers?
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiidcarter8 on December 15, 2019, 01:14:53 PM
Disgusting - first Eli pass right on Shepard's numbers for a DROP.

And now a HORRIBLE offensive PL call as Manning on the mark again.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiidcarter8 on December 15, 2019, 01:17:52 PM
old school jints fired jenkins. Nice losers?

Wanted out.  Zero trade value.  Bye.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiidcarter8 on December 15, 2019, 01:35:54 PM
Right on the mark again....1st down to 82.

Now Saquon goes to work.

Giants not too far off....
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on December 17, 2019, 08:07:14 PM
old school jints fired jenkins. Nice losers?

Wanted out.  Zero trade value.  Bye.

Oh no, he called an opponent a "retard". Picked up immediately.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on December 25, 2019, 03:08:06 PM
Giants would make a nice boy scout troop. Loyal and pc perfect. May not win many games though.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiidcarter8 on December 30, 2019, 10:30:24 AM
Thank you, Coach Shurmur - good luck in your travels.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on December 30, 2019, 12:44:03 PM
Another terrible season for the NY area NFL fan. Jets and Giants two of the worst for the decade. Shurmer,Macadoo, Coughlin, doesn't matter. New ownership is called for. Paying fans (not me) had to sit through the mess in the open air dump.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: luee on December 31, 2019, 04:28:53 PM
Shurmer modern offensive mind fired dinosaur gm kept.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: kiidcarter8 on January 01, 2020, 01:13:35 AM
yyyeppppppp

Wise move
Title: All Rise
Post by: Kam on January 07, 2020, 01:35:32 PM
Judge is in session
Title: Freddie Kitchens
Post by: Kam on February 06, 2020, 01:22:22 AM
Hires as Giants tight ends coach.

Go Judge has Garrett and Kitchens as former NFL  HC's on his staff.
Title: Re: Giants
Post by: Kam on February 20, 2020, 03:20:49 PM
Dead money and cap savings if these players are cut before June 1st:

Offensive Tackle Nate Solder ($13,000,000/$6,500,000)
Offensive Guard Kevin Zeitler ($5,000,000/$7,500,000)
Linebacker Alec Ogletree ($3,500,000/$8,250,000)
Wide Receiver Golden Tate ($7,058,823/$3,294,119)
Tight End Rhett Ellison ($2,188,383/$5,000,000)
Linebacker Kareem Martin ($1,166,668/$4,800,000)
Safety Antoine Bethea ($125,000/$2,750,000)
Offensive Center Spencer Pulley ($0/$2,750,000)
Quarterback Alex Tanney ($37,500/$1,000,000)

Title: Offensive Line
Post by: Kam on February 22, 2020, 03:58:34 PM
Would like to see the Giants shore up the line this offseason.  Both tackles and a Center.