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Sports => Football => Topic started by: Administrator on July 30, 2018, 11:24:07 AM
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Discuss the state of College Football.
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Michigan is the State of College Football. Michigan... State. See what I did there?
The reboot means that the record of my correctly picking every single college football game since 2007 is now, sadly, lost.
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Fear not I still have the database, haven't purged it yet
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Fear not I still have the database, haven't purged it yet
Fake news! Whiskeypriest Derangement Syndrome! Rigged witch hunt!
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Phut tha wuk?!
The darned thing wouldn't let me in the usual way. So I had to add a number to my name. Of course there was only one number to use.
Although some would point out that my posts would sometimes(or always depending who was talking)require a number 2 designation.
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https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-is-pruitt-s-recruiting-success-with-vols-a-surprise- (https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-is-pruitt-s-recruiting-success-with-vols-a-surprise-)
THE STORYLINE
Tennessee continues to stay hot on the recruiting trail, and July was a particularly excellent month for the Volunteers.
First-year coach Jeremy Pruitt and his staff landed commitments from three four-star commitments in OL Chris Akporoghene . The Vols went to Florida, Georgia and North Carolina, respectively, for those three impact players and continue to haul in top prospects leading up to the season.
Tennessee is currently fourth in the SEC team recruiting rankings, behind only Alabama, Texas A&M and Georgia, the top three recruiting classes in the entire country. The Vols are No. 12 nationally.
This recruiting success comes with a new coaching staff in place - maybe a lot of hope is running through Knoxville - but also after the Vols didn’t win a single SEC game last season.
So, is Pruitt’s early success on the recruiting trail a total surprise?
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24244718/stanford-cardinal-coach-david-shaw-says-cfp-look-schedules (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24244718/stanford-cardinal-coach-david-shaw-says-cfp-look-schedules)
College is supposed to be where the smart people are Shaw. If you and other schools aren't bright enough to manipulate the system then maybe you/they should get some extra tutoring.
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What're the odds tOSU does the right thing and suspends its head coach for enabling domestic violence?
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They did.
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Kudos to them.
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They did.
No. They didn't. Paid administrative leave, not a suspension.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ohio-state-places-urban-meyer-paid-administrative-leave-221320520.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ohio-state-places-urban-meyer-paid-administrative-leave-221320520.html)
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So you want him suspended without pay? Punishment before conviction? There are contractual issues with that kind of thing.
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If he knew about it and said as much to the OSU brass he's probably as good as gone anyways.
If the OSU brass put him on leave without first talking to him there's maybe a sliver of a chance he sticks.
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I imagine he's gone at some point.
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The darned thing wouldn't let me in the usual way. So I had to add a number to my name.
I finally resorted to the same thing. I tried to get on about once a day with my old login and it would not let me register a new user with the same name...so...
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...and the reason this story could not have broken on Dec 28th???
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24244718/stanford-cardinal-coach-david-shaw-says-cfp-look-schedules (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24244718/stanford-cardinal-coach-david-shaw-says-cfp-look-schedules)
College is supposed to be where the smart people are Shaw. If you and other schools aren't bright enough to manipulate the system then maybe you/they should get some extra tutoring.
Not sure I'm following your comment. Shaw doesn't get to set his own schedule. Or are you saying he should just do like the SEC and start scheduling easier cupcakes?
Personally I think he's pretty smart...
"How the schedule lays out may be more important than strength of schedule," Shaw said. "What I mean by that is, if you look at USC last year, to play 11 straight games without a bye -- all Division I opponents, no I-AA opponents, and play right into the Pac-12 championship game and win that one -- that to me is more impressive than just having a strong schedule but then having a Week 7 bye, or a Week 8 I-AA opponent, which kind of gives you a break."
Last season was the first since 1995 that USC played the entire regular season without a bye week. Its two losses were on the road -- a Friday night at Washington State, and Oct. 21 at Notre Dame. In spite of beating Stanford for the Pac-12 title, USC finished No. 8, right behind three-loss Auburn, which had a bye week between back-to-back road games against Arkansas and Texas A&M.
They only problem there is that he can't count to 12...which is the number of consecutive games we played without a bye.
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How do you put someone on ignore now ::)
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The darned thing wouldn't let me in the usual way. So I had to add a number to my name.
I finally resorted to the same thing. I tried to get on about once a day with my old login and it would not let me register a new user with the same name...so...
I found a way to go to my old login, go over and click on the login tab. It will take you to a different screen. Your old name and password will work on that screen.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24244718/stanford-cardinal-coach-david-shaw-says-cfp-look-schedules (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24244718/stanford-cardinal-coach-david-shaw-says-cfp-look-schedules)
College is supposed to be where the smart people are Shaw. If you and other schools aren't bright enough to manipulate the system then maybe you/they should get some extra tutoring.
Not sure I'm following your comment. Shaw doesn't get to set his own schedule. Or are you saying he should just do like the SEC and start scheduling easier cupcakes?
Personally I think he's pretty smart...
"How the schedule lays out may be more important than strength of schedule," Shaw said. "What I mean by that is, if you look at USC last year, to play 11 straight games without a bye -- all Division I opponents, no I-AA opponents, and play right into the Pac-12 championship game and win that one -- that to me is more impressive than just having a strong schedule but then having a Week 7 bye, or a Week 8 I-AA opponent, which kind of gives you a break."
Last season was the first since 1995 that USC played the entire regular season without a bye week. Its two losses were on the road -- a Friday night at Washington State, and Oct. 21 at Notre Dame. In spite of beating Stanford for the Pac-12 title, USC finished No. 8, right behind three-loss Auburn, which had a bye week between back-to-back road games against Arkansas and Texas A&M.
They only problem there is that he can't count to 12...which is the number of consecutive games we played without a bye.
I'm saying he's whining. His AD and the Trojan AD had/have the same scheduling opportunities as the SEC schools that he is aiming his shitball at.
The Trojans took a chance and it bit them in the ass. Making those big OOC matchups means you have to actually 'win' those games. You can't get beat by ND 49-14 and expect to get in the F4 no matter how impressive your SOS resume is. Having to go to double overtime at home against an eventual 6-6 team doesn't help his whining case either.
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How do you put someone on ignore now ::)
Much easier to tell Ste...errr...them to STFU.
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Okay back to the news of the week, will St. Urban resign or will OSU have to fire him?
I'm saying he resigns.
What do you think Skippy? (http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm198/kioch1/NEWMAN_zpsnnzr3jik.jpg) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/kioch1/media/NEWMAN_zpsnnzr3jik.jpg.html)
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In fact we need to get a Poll going on this Scotty.
Something like:
When will the Buckeyes Saint Urban be defrocked?
x Today
x Tomorrow
x Next Week
x What's a frock?
x What the frock?
I'm as giddy as a schoolboy. I must stand on my head.
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Just Putin this out thsre: about yhis time last year people were asking the same question about Dantonio.
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This Just In:
Our roving reporter has just discovered a deal in the works for Urban Meyer to relocate to a new place of employment:
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I found a way to go to my old login, go over and click on the login tab. It will take you to a different screen. Your old name and password will work on that screen.
This did not work yesterday. But did today
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Shelly is going to take the bullet for her husband as she is a school employee also. She will be fired or resign and claim she never told Urban. He will be reinstated so he can get back to winning OSU some championships
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His AD and the Trojan AD had/have the same scheduling opportunities as the SEC schools that he is aiming his shitball at.
Ok, so your just saying they need to start scheduling cupcakes. Ok that's one way to look at it. The other is to tell the SEC to grow some balls and start playing a big boy schedule. And to keep saying it over and over again until someone starts listening.
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Right now, Urban is being paid to be on vacation. Media should be hunting hm down. tOSU allowing him to skate.
WTF is with these Big Ten schools, the child, sexual, and domestic abuse, and the cover-ups?
PSU, MSU, tOSU...who's next?
Too much money in this corrupt sport.
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Shelly is going to take the bullet for her husband as she is a school employee also. She will be fired or resign and claim she never told Urban. He will be reinstated so he can get back to winning OSU some championships
Doubtful that will work.
Urbie is gone. Matter of time.
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His AD and the Trojan AD had/have the same scheduling opportunities as the SEC schools that he is aiming his shitball at.
Ok, so your just saying they need to start scheduling cupcakes. Ok that's one way to look at it. The other is to tell the SEC to grow some balls and start playing a big boy schedule. And to keep saying it over and over again until someone starts listening.
Alabama would have crushed Notre Dame. Texas too.
Sometimes one simply needs to use their noggin to make a decision. Sometimes all that fluff with numbers is just that. Fluff.
The Trojans played their own cupcake. But I don't want to get into another Northern Illinois pissing contest.
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She'd take a bullet? No. She'd be legitimately fired. As will he. Later on, after ensuring counseling, Michigan will hire Urban. Or the New England Patriots will.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2757232 (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2757232)
The football version Ball brothers. Cool.
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Wow, the Whatever "Massacre," Meyer is a seriously fucked up dude.
Laters, @sshole.
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Shelly is going to take the bullet for her husband as she is a school employee also. She will be fired or resign and claim she never told Urban. He will be reinstated so he can get back to winning OSU some championships
Doubtful that will work.
Urbie is gone. Matter of time.
I have not spent much time looming into the matter but I will make 2 predictions, the second of which I am 100% positive of:
1. OSU will not fire Urban Meyer.
2. Whatever OSU does the mindless reflexive OSU haters here - jbot, bosox, cap, cap's alter ego, etc - will criticize OSU regardless of their reasons, regardless of the facts, and regardless of their actions, well into 2020.
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Check out the Project Veritas video or google Urbs Valentine's Day Massacre and see if you can't make the reasoned conclusion that he SHOULD be fired.
My prediction that he will be fired based on information, not bias.
He's not a good person regardless of what sort of coach he is.
And that may not be uncommon, but his abuses of power are disturbing and well-documented.
I dislike Urban Meyer much more than I dislike tOSU the institution, but I'll cop to not being a huge fan or anything.
And, you know:
SCOREBOARD
31-0
SERVED
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Check out the Project Veritas video or google Urbs Valentine's Day Massacre and see if you can't make the reasoned conclusion that he SHOULD be fired.
What should he be fired for based on his contract?
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UM is the guy who protected Aaron Hernandez. And the guy who had 31 players arrested at FLorida.
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Shelly is going to take the bullet for her husband as she is a school employee also. She will be fired or resign and claim she never told Urban. He will be reinstated so he can get back to winning OSU some championships
Doubtful that will work.
Urbie is gone. Matter of time.
I have not spent much time looming into the matter but I will make 2 predictions, the second of which I am 100% positive of:
1. OSU will not fire Urban Meyer.
2. Whatever OSU does the mindless reflexive OSU haters here - jbot, bosox, cap, cap's alter ego, etc - will criticize OSU regardless of their reasons, regardless of the facts, and regardless of their actions, well into 2020.
Well, I suppose all we can do now is wait and see.
And BTW you really milk the mindless reflexive bullshit way too much dude. Once in a while you might be believed. But with the frequency with which you pull that sword out and wave it about like a maniacal screwball just makes you look paranoid.
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I never would have thought that Beanie was just a mindless reflexive OSU hater.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/former-osu-rb-beanie-wells-urban-meyer-should-be-fired-if-he-lied/ar-BBLqeWs?ocid=ientp
(http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/former-osu-rb-beanie-wells-urban-meyer-should-be-fired-if-he-lied/ar-BBLqeWs?ocid=ientp)
Former OSU RB Beanie Wells: Urban Meyer should be fired if he lied.
“I think in this situation, you have to do what’s morally right,” Wells said. “That probably would be to make a change, if he did indeed know everything that was going on, and kinda swept it under the rug. If that’s the case you have to move forward as a University.”
It’s no longer about Meyer’s ability to lead an upper-echelon program. He’s proven over and over again to be among the most successful head football coaches in the nation. According to Wells, it’s more about optics and doing the right thing.
“I just think of all the women’s rights groups out there. All the D.V. advocates out there that would be against the University with him being still the head coach if he indeed did know what actually transpired.”
It’s becoming increasingly clear that those with previous ties to the Buckeyes program believe it’s time to move on from Meyer. Having starred for Ohio State from 2006-08, Wells is seemingly no different.
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Check out the Project Veritas video or google Urbs Valentine's Day Massacre and see if you can't make the reasoned conclusion that he SHOULD be fired.
What should he be fired for based on his contract?
Paragraph 4.1 (e) ... “any known violations of Ohio State's Sexual Misconduct Policy (including, but not limited to, sexual harassment, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, intimate violence and stalking) that involve any student, faculty, or staff or that is in connection with a university sponsored activity or event. ...
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https://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1290895939629 (https://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1290895939629)
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Check out the Project Veritas video ... and see if you can't make the reasoned conclusion that he SHOULD be fired.
Project Veritas? I'd sooner trust you than one of their videos.
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Misogyny is another word you like to wave about. Odd that you are on the side of a guy that obviously knew about the abuse.
Maybe mindless OSU booster is a name we should be throwing at you.
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Check out the Project Veritas video or google Urbs Valentine's Day Massacre and see if you can't make the reasoned conclusion that he SHOULD be fired.
What should he be fired for based on his contract?
Paragraph 4.1 (e) ... “any known violations of Ohio State's Sexual Misconduct Policy (including, but not limited to, sexual harassment, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, intimate violence and stalking) that involve any student, faculty, or staff or that is in connection with a university sponsored activity or event. ...
Don't confuse Jimm with facts
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Check out the Project Veritas video or google Urbs Valentine's Day Massacre and see if you can't make the reasoned conclusion that he SHOULD be fired.
What should he be fired for based on his contract?
Paragraph 4.1 (e) ... “any known violations of Ohio State's Sexual Misconduct Policy (including, but not limited to, sexual harassment, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, intimate violence and stalking) that involve any student, faculty, or staff or that is in connection with a university sponsored activity or event. ...
Don't confuse Jimm with facts
Meyer’s contract extension included new language
Failure by Coach to promptly report to Ohio State’s Deputy Title IX Coordinator — Athletics or Ohio State’s Title IX Coordinator any known violations of Ohio State’s Sexual Misconduct Policy (including, but not limited to, sexual harassment, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, intimate violence and stalking) that involve any student, faculty, or staff or that is in connection with a university sponsored activity or event. For purposes of this section ... a “known violation” shall mean a violation or an allegation of a violation of Title IX that Coach is aware of or has reasonable cause to believe is taking place or may have taken place.
There is debate over that clause being used to fire Meyer WITH CAUSE since the alleged abuse is not a TitleIX violation since the victim was not an OSU student or employee and the abuse was not the result of an OSU event and did not occur on on campus.
The lawyers will be arguing for a while.
TOSU does not need to fire Meyer with cause, but without cause will trigger a 40$million dollar payout. About 40 per cent of the yearly Athletic Budget.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied? Do you fire him for that, or just suspend him for, say, the first two games of the year? Is lying to the press rideable for a CFB coach?
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Actually, rethinking the pure monetary situation OSU is in. Without a smoking gun they probably don't do the right thing and dismiss him. Just too much cash involved.
I'm waiting to see if someone in his coaching family, past and present, breaks ranks with Meyer and says yes he knew about it. Perhaps all it might take is one of those wives to corroborate that yes her husband told her Meyer knew about it. Assuming of course the husband did confide that to her and her conscience won't allow her to keep silent. Possibly there is no smoking gun and he gets away with, what I believe is a flat out lie.
But right now, if everyone keeps quiet or avows the have no knowledge about it there's, I guess, a good possibility the dude gets away with it and my first assessment he's gone is wrong. AKA, I WAS WRONG. There's too much cash involved for them to do it I guess. Too bad because you just know if his wife read that text he positively knows about it.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
Yes, that was the statement I was referring to.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied? Do you fire him for that, or just suspend him for, say, the first two games of the year? Is lying to the press rideable for a CFB coach?
If he reported it then it's probably over. His excuse about the lie is somewhat believable. Maybe a token suspension, they've got a couple of patsies right off the bat anyways.
But if that were the case, that he previously reported it, then why was OSU's reaction the way it was? Why not just quickly say the coach misspoke they have documents of it being reported by Meyer and accredit it to a slip of the tongue by Meyer? Simply say he got confused and move on? Does it take time to get this 'reporting' up the chain typed up? Shouldn't it already be typed up?
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Check out the Project Veritas video or google Urbs Valentine's Day Massacre and see if you can't make the reasoned conclusion that he SHOULD be fired.
What should he be fired for based on his contract?
I can't follow all the latest. When he admitted knowing a couple of days ago, did he also claim that he "had" reported it to his superiors as required by Title IX
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied? Do you fire him for that, or just suspend him for, say, the first two games of the year? Is lying to the press rideable for a CFB coach?
If it's just not knowing how to answer a question he wasn't prepared to answer, then I doubt he would be fired for that.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
I do not read much into it or anything that has happened, except by my reading Zach Smith's career path now leads through the culinary world, specifically restaurants with "burger" in their names.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
I do not read much into it or anything that has happened, except by my reading Zach Smith's career path now leads through the culinary world, specifically restaurants with "burger" in their names.
If he reported it and simply misspoke then the whole thing could have been cleared up by OSU brass in about 15 minutes just checking their records. No need for all the shit that spilled out from either the left or the right side of the Bull's ass.
But if the guy knowingly lied without needing to you have to ask the question WHY?
Well, maybe OSU fans, and you, wait same thing right, don't have to ask that question.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
Exactly. No matter what the decision on Meyer is it must have credibilityto sell to the public. So far the major news people have turned a Facebook post into another major broadside on the “ corruptness” of college football. But when you go looking for facts the evidence is harder to warrant firing the Coach.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
Exactly. No matter what the decision on Meyer is it must have credibilityto sell to the public. So far the major news people have turned a Facebook post into another major broadside on the “ corruptness” of college football. But when you go looking for facts the evidence is harder to warrant firing the Coach.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700)
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http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/24278244 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/24278244)
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
Exactly. No matter what the decision on Meyer is it must have credibilityto sell to the public. So far the major news people have turned a Facebook post into another major broadside on the “ corruptness” of college football. But when you go looking for facts the evidence is harder to warrant firing the Coach.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700)
McCain proves my point.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
Exactly. No matter what the decision on Meyer is it must have credibilityto sell to the public. So far the major news people have turned a Facebook post into another major broadside on the “ corruptness” of college football. But when you go looking for facts the evidence is harder to warrant firing the Coach.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700)
McCain proves my point.
Not really. Your point is simple minded and naive.
If you want a fact he lied when there was absolutely no need to lie. None.
An inquiring mind has to ask, why?
He's in one of the most pressure packed professions there are. And he wants us to believe he choked. Bullshit. He lied for a reason.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
Exactly. No matter what the decision on Meyer is it must have credibilityto sell to the public. So far the major news people have turned a Facebook post into another major broadside on the “ corruptness” of college football. But when you go looking for facts the evidence is harder to warrant firing the Coach.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700)
McCain proves my point.
Not really. Your point is simple minded and naive.
If you want a fact he lied when there was absolutely no need to lie. None.
An inquiring mind has to ask, why?
He's in one of the most pressure packed professions there are. And he wants us to believe he choked. Bullshit. He lied for a reason.
which is?
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
Exactly. No matter what the decision on Meyer is it must have credibilityto sell to the public. So far the major news people have turned a Facebook post into another major broadside on the “ corruptness” of college football. But when you go looking for facts the evidence is harder to warrant firing the Coach.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700)
McCain proves my point.
Not really. Your point is simple minded and naive.
If you want a fact he lied when there was absolutely no need to lie. None.
An inquiring mind has to ask, why?
He's in one of the most pressure packed professions there are. And he wants us to believe he choked. Bullshit. He lied for a reason.
which is?
Exactly.
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Since no one here is.e an positing it as a possibility, I will: What if Meyer's statement is true: he reported the incident when it happened, but when asked about the incident at media day, lied?
Actually Friday night he admitted lying to the media AND reporting the 2015 incident when he learned about it.
I thought so. This sounds to me like the legal team had time to strategize and came up with this story as a way to keep him. But if they just made this up, someone will blab and then there will be a number of people going down.
Once again, why the Administrative leave? If it was a slip of the tongue then why not just 'immediately' produce the documentation saying it was reported, and then say it was a slip of the tongue, and be done with it?
No, something doesn't jive here.
To be seen as Doing Something in response to what appeared to be a major negative news story. "We take the allegations seriously! See what we have done!" PAID administrative leave, mind you.
Exactly. No matter what the decision on Meyer is it must have credibilityto sell to the public. So far the major news people have turned a Facebook post into another major broadside on the “ corruptness” of college football. But when you go looking for facts the evidence is harder to warrant firing the Coach.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24278700)
McCain proves my point.
Not really. Your point is simple minded and naive.
If you want a fact he lied when there was absolutely no need to lie. None.
An inquiring mind has to ask, why?
He's in one of the most pressure packed professions there are. And he wants us to believe he choked. Bullshit. He lied for a reason.
which is?
Exactly.
LOL
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I think the longer this goes on without any significant public backlash, the more likely he will be reinstated. There was a lot of press out of the gate, but It feels like it's way back on page 9 already
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I think the longer this goes on without any significant public backlash, the more likely he will be reinstated. There was a lot of press out of the gate, but It feels like it's way back on page 9 already
Yes, OSU got away with it. Smart guys there.
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I think the longer this goes on without any significant public backlash, the more likely he will be reinstated. There was a lot of press out of the gate, but It feels like it's way back on page 9 already
Yes, OSU got away with it. Smart guys there.
I feel vindicated already.
I note your not waiting until all the facts are in before determining tOSU "Got away with it".
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Big rally for the downtrodden millionaire, highest paid state employee, football coach in oHIo, last night.
I mean, a guy who has been so beaten down by the unfair application of societal rules and mores deserves the local populace's support!
CFB, the MOST CORRUPT sport in America.
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I think the longer this goes on without any significant public backlash, the more likely he will be reinstated. There was a lot of press out of the gate, but It feels like it's way back on page 9 already
Yes, OSU got away with it. Smart guys there.
I feel vindicated already.
I note your not waiting until all the facts are in before determining tOSU "Got away with it".
Well, if you feel vindicated then that's the really important thing. I'm sure everyone here breathes a sigh of relief for that and will all sleep easy tonight.
I've got all the facts I need. Meyer lied for no good reason. Usually guys that do that are hiding something. We may never know what but...
Wouldn't trust em as far as I could throw em.
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As I said, OSU is smart and doing the right thing. Stall till we can get all off these stories straight and get the proper paperwork typed up and back-dated.
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As I said, OSU is smart and doing the right thing. Stall till we can get all off these stories straight and get the proper paperwork typed up and back-dated.
Thank you for proving me right.
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Or something like that...
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As I said, OSU is smart and doing the right thing. Stall till we can get all off these stories straight and get the proper paperwork typed up and back-dated.
Thank you for proving me right.
Far be it for me to not prove you right. No need to thank me I have always been able to anticipate your needs. Besides you and James have always had easily jerked chains.
So rather thank you both for playing your parts most beautifully as expected.
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Have I mentioned lately that I crack myself up?
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Have I mentioned lately that I crack myself up?
Good thing. I doubt your idiocies amuse anyone else. Except, of course, your alter ego.
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Have I mentioned lately that I crack myself up?
Good thing. I doubt your idiocies amuse anyone else. Except, of course, your alter ego.
All too easy.
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ESPN (and others) saying Urban is not the victim, Courtney Smith is the victim and this should be about her. What were the frickin police doing for the last three years?
Did Urban Meyer know something first hand that the police were not already made aware of directly from Courtney? They arrested the guy, so I'm pretty sure they already knew about it. They are required to do investigations right? And if Smith had been fired while she was still living in the house would that have helped her or made it worse?
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ESPN (and others) saying Urban is not the victim, Courtney Smith is the victim and this should be about her. What were the frickin police doing for the last three years?
Did Urban Meyer know something first hand that the police were not already made aware of directly from Courtney? They arrested the guy, so I'm pretty sure they already knew about it. They are required to do investigations right? And if Smith had been fired while she was still living in the house would that have helped her or made it worse?
Check your facts.
Smith was never arrested.
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ESPN (and others) saying Urban is not the victim, Courtney Smith is the victim and this should be about her. What were the frickin police doing for the last three years?
Did Urban Meyer know something first hand that the police were not already made aware of directly from Courtney? They arrested the guy, so I'm pretty sure they already knew about it. They are required to do investigations right? And if Smith had been fired while she was still living in the house would that have helped her or made it worse?
Check your facts.
Smith was never arrested.
Abusers often aren't. Doesn't mean they aren't guilty.
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There are lots of people out there that 'get it'. And know why Meyer has to be fired by OSU. To do any less puts a stain on the University. Paterno did worse and needed to be fired. Probably should have been prosecuted. But Urban needs to go for the same basic premises.
https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/ (https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/)
Urban Meyer’s social media apology for the lies he repeatedly told about a fired assistant coach's brush with domestic violence might have landed more believably Friday had Meyer not explained his actions with another lie just as fanciful.
“My intention was not to say anything inaccurate or misleading,” Meyer wrote. “However, I was not adequately prepared to discuss these sensitive personnel issues with the media, and I apologize for the way I handled those questions.”
Not adequately prepared?
Urban Meyer?
The man who has won 73 games in six seasons at Ohio State, and all three national championship games in which he has coached during his career, is rarely, if ever, unprepared.
No, what drove Meyer to the brink of precipitating his own firing by needlessly backing himself into a corner with lies told consistently and firmly at least nine times in three separate press conferences over a single afternoon was more likely an overabundance of forethought and planning.
There have probably been many press conferences during Meyer’s 16 seasons as a head coach at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and OSU where he hasn’t been exactly sure of the initial question he would face.
But every Meyer media availability in Chicago carried the certainty of a first question related to the firing of his wide receivers coach, Zach Smith, the night before.
Meyer had one entire evening to confer with OSU crisis management experts and ponder how he would handle those questions about Smith’s dismissal.
Actually, Meyer likely had even longer to prepare, given that Smith’s firing had been a possibility since a report surfaced 11 hours before his firing that detailed his domestic violence issues in the past.[/] ...
...
Meyer’s supporters will, of course, defend this ludicrous excuse, just as they would laugh uproariously if Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, Mark Dantonio or any coach perceived as a threat to OSU’s on-field dominance positioned a similar fantasy as truth.[/]
...
“There was nothing,” Meyer said. “I don’t know who creates a story like that.”
For the better part of six hours, in front of a mass media gathering, again in a session with print reporters, and again in front of TV cameras, Meyer stuck to that outright denial and dismissive tone.
Here’s the exchange between Doug Lesmeresis of Cleveland.com and Meyer:
Lesmerises: “Are you saying you don’t know anything about that (2015 incident) or are you saying that never happened?”
Meyer shook his head as Lesmerises question began, as if to say he indeed knew nothing about the 2015 incident. And then he said this:
Meyer: “I can’t say it didn’t happen, because I wasn’t there. I was never told about anything. Nothing ever came to light. I never had any conversation about it. So I know nothing about it.”
Five sentences...three outright, bald-faced lies.
A follow-up question from Lesmerises brought this from Meyer:
“The first I heard (about the 2015 incident) was last night.”
Another lie.[/] ...
Only time will reveal the exact reason Meyer chose the absolute worst possible way to handle questions he knew were coming. Most probably, it was his belief his lies would never be exposed, because both he and Ohio State and every big-time college football program are very good at shielding themselves from scrutiny.
If all this leads to Meyer's firing, it will be a mammoth misfortune, prematurely ending a career that could leave him looking down on every other coach in college football as the greatest ever in his profession.
It will damage Meyer’s considerable philanthropic impact in Columbus and stop his uncanny influence helping players realize their NFL dreams.
And if Meyer is fired, it will be entirely of his own doing, because he had the truth on his side and simply refused to tell it.
Meyer’s own social media mea culpa now contends he reported the 2015 Smith domestic violence matter to his superiors.
So why not admit that when questioned in Chicago?
Why not say, “I knew about the 2015 incident and I reported it to my superiors. I told Zach if anything ever came to light about that and it reflected on our program, he would be dismissed. That happened this week, and so we had to part ways.”
Would that revelation have brought the mighty Ohio State football program to its knees?
Would it have damaged Urban Meyer in any way that would have exposed him to a possible firing?
No and no.
So why did Meyer not tell the truth?[/]...
It wasn’t that he came to Chicago “not adequately prepared.” It’s far more likely Meyer had pondered the questions he would receive for the better part of 16 hours and was exceedingly prepared.
And probably exceedingly ticked off he’d have to shine some light on the dirty laundry in his program.
That’s why someone puts forth a false narrative and sticks to it resolutely while given repeated chances to tell the truth or correct his earlier lies throughout the day.
Meyer is rarely thrust into such situations, and it’s hard to envision how he could have handled it more deplorably.
While sycophants will excuse it as simply lying to the media -- a stupid defense, given reporters are the conduit to the general public -- there is an enormous difference between concealing which player will start at quarterback, or whether a tackle’s ankle injury has fully healed and repeatedly denying, and thus trivializing, domestic violence allegations against a staff member.
If Meyer doesn’t understand the difference, then his oft-stated core value of, “Treat women with respect,” rings as hollow as the only other core value he lists above that one, “Honesty.”
...
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ESPN (and others) saying Urban is not the victim, Courtney Smith is the victim and this should be about her. What were the frickin police doing for the last three years?
Did Urban Meyer know something first hand that the police were not already made aware of directly from Courtney? They arrested the guy, so I'm pretty sure they already knew about it. They are required to do investigations right? And if Smith had been fired while she was still living in the house would that have helped her or made it worse?
Check your facts.
Smith was never arrested.
Abusers often aren't. Doesn't mean they aren't guilty.
Do you ever read ESPN's posts for context, or just automatically respond?
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There are lots of people out there that 'get it'. And know why Meyer has to be fired by OSU. To do any less puts a stain on the University. Paterno did worse and needed to be fired. Probably should have been prosecuted. But Urban needs to go for the same basic premises.
https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/ (https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/)
Urban Meyer’s social media apology for the lies he repeatedly told about a fired assistant coach's brush with domestic violence might have landed more believably Friday had Meyer not explained his actions with another lie just as fanciful.
“My intention was not to say anything inaccurate or misleading,” Meyer wrote. “However, I was not adequately prepared to discuss these sensitive personnel issues with the media, and I apologize for the way I handled those questions.”
Not adequately prepared?
Urban Meyer?
The man who has won 73 games in six seasons at Ohio State, and all three national championship games in which he has coached during his career, is rarely, if ever, unprepared.
No, what drove Meyer to the brink of precipitating his own firing by needlessly backing himself into a corner with lies told consistently and firmly at least nine times in three separate press conferences over a single afternoon was more likely an overabundance of forethought and planning.
There have probably been many press conferences during Meyer’s 16 seasons as a head coach at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and OSU where he hasn’t been exactly sure of the initial question he would face.
But every Meyer media availability in Chicago carried the certainty of a first question related to the firing of his wide receivers coach, Zach Smith, the night before.
Meyer had one entire evening to confer with OSU crisis management experts and ponder how he would handle those questions about Smith’s dismissal.
Actually, Meyer likely had even longer to prepare, given that Smith’s firing had been a possibility since a report surfaced 11 hours before his firing that detailed his domestic violence issues in the past.[/] ...
...
Meyer’s supporters will, of course, defend this ludicrous excuse, just as they would laugh uproariously if Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, Mark Dantonio or any coach perceived as a threat to OSU’s on-field dominance positioned a similar fantasy as truth.[/]
...
“There was nothing,” Meyer said. “I don’t know who creates a story like that.”
For the better part of six hours, in front of a mass media gathering, again in a session with print reporters, and again in front of TV cameras, Meyer stuck to that outright denial and dismissive tone.
Here’s the exchange between Doug Lesmeresis of Cleveland.com and Meyer:
Lesmerises: “Are you saying you don’t know anything about that (2015 incident) or are you saying that never happened?”
Meyer shook his head as Lesmerises question began, as if to say he indeed knew nothing about the 2015 incident. And then he said this:
Meyer: “I can’t say it didn’t happen, because I wasn’t there. I was never told about anything. Nothing ever came to light. I never had any conversation about it. So I know nothing about it.”
Five sentences...three outright, bald-faced lies.
A follow-up question from Lesmerises brought this from Meyer:
“The first I heard (about the 2015 incident) was last night.”
Another lie.[/] ...
Only time will reveal the exact reason Meyer chose the absolute worst possible way to handle questions he knew were coming. Most probably, it was his belief his lies would never be exposed, because both he and Ohio State and every big-time college football program are very good at shielding themselves from scrutiny.
If all this leads to Meyer's firing, it will be a mammoth misfortune, prematurely ending a career that could leave him looking down on every other coach in college football as the greatest ever in his profession.
It will damage Meyer’s considerable philanthropic impact in Columbus and stop his uncanny influence helping players realize their NFL dreams.
And if Meyer is fired, it will be entirely of his own doing, because he had the truth on his side and simply refused to tell it.
Meyer’s own social media mea culpa now contends he reported the 2015 Smith domestic violence matter to his superiors.
So why not admit that when questioned in Chicago?
Why not say, “I knew about the 2015 incident and I reported it to my superiors. I told Zach if anything ever came to light about that and it reflected on our program, he would be dismissed. That happened this week, and so we had to part ways.”
Would that revelation have brought the mighty Ohio State football program to its knees?
Would it have damaged Urban Meyer in any way that would have exposed him to a possible firing?
No and no.
So why did Meyer not tell the truth?[/]...
It wasn’t that he came to Chicago “not adequately prepared.” It’s far more likely Meyer had pondered the questions he would receive for the better part of 16 hours and was exceedingly prepared.
And probably exceedingly ticked off he’d have to shine some light on the dirty laundry in his program.
That’s why someone puts forth a false narrative and sticks to it resolutely while given repeated chances to tell the truth or correct his earlier lies throughout the day.
Meyer is rarely thrust into such situations, and it’s hard to envision how he could have handled it more deplorably.
While sycophants will excuse it as simply lying to the media -- a stupid defense, given reporters are the conduit to the general public -- there is an enormous difference between concealing which player will start at quarterback, or whether a tackle’s ankle injury has fully healed and repeatedly denying, and thus trivializing, domestic violence allegations against a staff member.
If Meyer doesn’t understand the difference, then his oft-stated core value of, “Treat women with respect,” rings as hollow as the only other core value he lists above that one, “Honesty.”
...
So you think lying to the media is.fireable if the topic is important enough, or if the coach is trying to avoid negative publicity?
Same people had Dantonio and Izzo lead off with nooses around their neck last year. Because having a "hot take" has become more important than a reasoned decision when all the facts are in.
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ESPN (and others) saying Urban is not the victim, Courtney Smith is the victim and this should be about her. What were the frickin police doing for the last three years?
Did Urban Meyer know something first hand that the police were not already made aware of directly from Courtney? They arrested the guy, so I'm pretty sure they already knew about it. They are required to do investigations right? And if Smith had been fired while she was still living in the house would that have helped her or made it worse?
Check your facts.
Smith was never arrested.
Abusers often aren't. Doesn't mean they aren't guilty.
Do you ever read ESPN's posts for context, or just automatically respond?
My first impulse is to simply tell you to fuck off. But I'll bite my tongue.
Sigh, I know he was right that the guy wasn't arrested. I'm not the friggin moron you continually try to make me out to be.
I simply said not arrested doesn't mean not guilty. And as such indicate thusly that any reported abuse would be investigated as a matter of routine whether he was arrested or not. As a lawyer you know that.
So, even if the guy wasn't arrested the point/question of Scotty's post still stands notwithstanding his error on the non-arrest.
Personally Scotty has a good point. The guy was/is a danger to this lady. And really that is what all of this should be about and why any lying on Meyer's end cannot be tolerated. He's got to go. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence and integrity knows this to be true. Sycophants of course will disagree. Do you?
You have often erringly called others here misogynists while implying that you aren't. It is now time for you to back that up as more than just talk. Step up or step off.
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There are lots of people out there that 'get it'. And know why Meyer has to be fired by OSU. To do any less puts a stain on the University. Paterno did worse and needed to be fired. Probably should have been prosecuted. But Urban needs to go for the same basic premises.
https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/ (https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/)
Urban Meyer’s social media apology for the lies he repeatedly told about a fired assistant coach's brush with domestic violence might have landed more believably Friday had Meyer not explained his actions with another lie just as fanciful.
“My intention was not to say anything inaccurate or misleading,” Meyer wrote. “However, I was not adequately prepared to discuss these sensitive personnel issues with the media, and I apologize for the way I handled those questions.”
Not adequately prepared?
Urban Meyer?
The man who has won 73 games in six seasons at Ohio State, and all three national championship games in which he has coached during his career, is rarely, if ever, unprepared.
No, what drove Meyer to the brink of precipitating his own firing by needlessly backing himself into a corner with lies told consistently and firmly at least nine times in three separate press conferences over a single afternoon was more likely an overabundance of forethought and planning.
There have probably been many press conferences during Meyer’s 16 seasons as a head coach at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and OSU where he hasn’t been exactly sure of the initial question he would face.
But every Meyer media availability in Chicago carried the certainty of a first question related to the firing of his wide receivers coach, Zach Smith, the night before.
Meyer had one entire evening to confer with OSU crisis management experts and ponder how he would handle those questions about Smith’s dismissal.
Actually, Meyer likely had even longer to prepare, given that Smith’s firing had been a possibility since a report surfaced 11 hours before his firing that detailed his domestic violence issues in the past.[/] ...
...
Meyer’s supporters will, of course, defend this ludicrous excuse, just as they would laugh uproariously if Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, Mark Dantonio or any coach perceived as a threat to OSU’s on-field dominance positioned a similar fantasy as truth.[/]
...
“There was nothing,” Meyer said. “I don’t know who creates a story like that.”
For the better part of six hours, in front of a mass media gathering, again in a session with print reporters, and again in front of TV cameras, Meyer stuck to that outright denial and dismissive tone.
Here’s the exchange between Doug Lesmeresis of Cleveland.com and Meyer:
Lesmerises: “Are you saying you don’t know anything about that (2015 incident) or are you saying that never happened?”
Meyer shook his head as Lesmerises question began, as if to say he indeed knew nothing about the 2015 incident. And then he said this:
Meyer: “I can’t say it didn’t happen, because I wasn’t there. I was never told about anything. Nothing ever came to light. I never had any conversation about it. So I know nothing about it.”
Five sentences...three outright, bald-faced lies.
A follow-up question from Lesmerises brought this from Meyer:
“The first I heard (about the 2015 incident) was last night.”
Another lie.[/] ...
Only time will reveal the exact reason Meyer chose the absolute worst possible way to handle questions he knew were coming. Most probably, it was his belief his lies would never be exposed, because both he and Ohio State and every big-time college football program are very good at shielding themselves from scrutiny.
If all this leads to Meyer's firing, it will be a mammoth misfortune, prematurely ending a career that could leave him looking down on every other coach in college football as the greatest ever in his profession.
It will damage Meyer’s considerable philanthropic impact in Columbus and stop his uncanny influence helping players realize their NFL dreams.
And if Meyer is fired, it will be entirely of his own doing, because he had the truth on his side and simply refused to tell it.
Meyer’s own social media mea culpa now contends he reported the 2015 Smith domestic violence matter to his superiors.
So why not admit that when questioned in Chicago?
Why not say, “I knew about the 2015 incident and I reported it to my superiors. I told Zach if anything ever came to light about that and it reflected on our program, he would be dismissed. That happened this week, and so we had to part ways.”
Would that revelation have brought the mighty Ohio State football program to its knees?
Would it have damaged Urban Meyer in any way that would have exposed him to a possible firing?
No and no.
So why did Meyer not tell the truth?[/]...
It wasn’t that he came to Chicago “not adequately prepared.” It’s far more likely Meyer had pondered the questions he would receive for the better part of 16 hours and was exceedingly prepared.
And probably exceedingly ticked off he’d have to shine some light on the dirty laundry in his program.
That’s why someone puts forth a false narrative and sticks to it resolutely while given repeated chances to tell the truth or correct his earlier lies throughout the day.
Meyer is rarely thrust into such situations, and it’s hard to envision how he could have handled it more deplorably.
While sycophants will excuse it as simply lying to the media -- a stupid defense, given reporters are the conduit to the general public -- there is an enormous difference between concealing which player will start at quarterback, or whether a tackle’s ankle injury has fully healed and repeatedly denying, and thus trivializing, domestic violence allegations against a staff member.
If Meyer doesn’t understand the difference, then his oft-stated core value of, “Treat women with respect,” rings as hollow as the only other core value he lists above that one, “Honesty.”
...
So you think lying to the media is.fireable if the topic is important enough, or if the coach is trying to avoid negative publicity?
Same people had Dantonio and Izzo lead off with nooses around their neck last year. Because having a "hot take" has become more important than a reasoned decision when all the facts are in.
Hot take my ass, the lying is totally unacceptable no matter how he wants to aww shucks it.
Of course I think what he did is a fireable thing. Frankly given the seriousness of the matter I'm surprised you don't. If you were that woman's lawyer, or brother, or that woman herself no doubt you'd think differently. If you actually think, actually buy, that Meyer was caught off guard gee whiz shit, well, I find that hard to believe. I guess I really don't know you at all.
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"The only thing missing from Urban’s statement and Zach Smith’s ESPN interview Friday night was the Ohio State marching band dotting the ‘i’ on lie."
Again, he's got to go.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/open-mike/os-sp-urban-meyer-urban-liar-buckeyes-domestic-violence-zach-smith-20180803-story.html (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/open-mike/os-sp-urban-meyer-urban-liar-buckeyes-domestic-violence-zach-smith-20180803-story.html)
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While sycophants will excuse it as simply lying to the media -- a stupid defense
Perhaps he felt that it is not his responsibility to dispense justice in this matter. Maybe he is of the opinion that it is the responsibility of the legal system to deal with this situation. It might be that he feels that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, not in the court of public opinion. Maybe he feels that it is not up to him to possibly ruin someones career and/or life until the subject is found guilty in a court of law. Why isn’t this in the purview of the legal system? Go to the police. Present your case. Insist that they press charges against this guy. If that doesn’t work sue him civilly. If he is found guilty by the legal system then it’s the duty of the university (or possibly Myer as the responsible administrator in this area) to fire this guy. Now, obviously, Myer pretty much tried to weasel out of this whole thing when it came to his statements to the press. But I could see how he might feel that this shouldn’t be his responsibility in the first place. Let the legal system dispense justice and if he is found guilty then dismiss him from his position.
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There are lots of people out there that 'get it'. And know why Meyer has to be fired by OSU. To do any less puts a stain on the University. Paterno did worse and needed to be fired. Probably should have been prosecuted. But Urban needs to go for the same basic premises.
https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/ (https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/)
Urban Meyer’s social media apology for the lies he repeatedly told about a fired assistant coach's brush with domestic violence might have landed more believably Friday had Meyer not explained his actions with another lie just as fanciful.
“My intention was not to say anything inaccurate or misleading,” Meyer wrote. “However, I was not adequately prepared to discuss these sensitive personnel issues with the media, and I apologize for the way I handled those questions.”
Not adequately prepared?
Urban Meyer?
The man who has won 73 games in six seasons at Ohio State, and all three national championship games in which he has coached during his career, is rarely, if ever, unprepared.
No, what drove Meyer to the brink of precipitating his own firing by needlessly backing himself into a corner with lies told consistently and firmly at least nine times in three separate press conferences over a single afternoon was more likely an overabundance of forethought and planning.
There have probably been many press conferences during Meyer’s 16 seasons as a head coach at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and OSU where he hasn’t been exactly sure of the initial question he would face.
But every Meyer media availability in Chicago carried the certainty of a first question related to the firing of his wide receivers coach, Zach Smith, the night before.
Meyer had one entire evening to confer with OSU crisis management experts and ponder how he would handle those questions about Smith’s dismissal.
Actually, Meyer likely had even longer to prepare, given that Smith’s firing had been a possibility since a report surfaced 11 hours before his firing that detailed his domestic violence issues in the past.[/] ...
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Meyer’s supporters will, of course, defend this ludicrous excuse, just as they would laugh uproariously if Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, Mark Dantonio or any coach perceived as a threat to OSU’s on-field dominance positioned a similar fantasy as truth.[/]
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“There was nothing,” Meyer said. “I don’t know who creates a story like that.”
For the better part of six hours, in front of a mass media gathering, again in a session with print reporters, and again in front of TV cameras, Meyer stuck to that outright denial and dismissive tone.
Here’s the exchange between Doug Lesmeresis of Cleveland.com and Meyer:
Lesmerises: “Are you saying you don’t know anything about that (2015 incident) or are you saying that never happened?”
Meyer shook his head as Lesmerises question began, as if to say he indeed knew nothing about the 2015 incident. And then he said this:
Meyer: “I can’t say it didn’t happen, because I wasn’t there. I was never told about anything. Nothing ever came to light. I never had any conversation about it. So I know nothing about it.”
Five sentences...three outright, bald-faced lies.
A follow-up question from Lesmerises brought this from Meyer:
“The first I heard (about the 2015 incident) was last night.”
Another lie.[/] ...
Only time will reveal the exact reason Meyer chose the absolute worst possible way to handle questions he knew were coming. Most probably, it was his belief his lies would never be exposed, because both he and Ohio State and every big-time college football program are very good at shielding themselves from scrutiny.
If all this leads to Meyer's firing, it will be a mammoth misfortune, prematurely ending a career that could leave him looking down on every other coach in college football as the greatest ever in his profession.
It will damage Meyer’s considerable philanthropic impact in Columbus and stop his uncanny influence helping players realize their NFL dreams.
And if Meyer is fired, it will be entirely of his own doing, because he had the truth on his side and simply refused to tell it.
Meyer’s own social media mea culpa now contends he reported the 2015 Smith domestic violence matter to his superiors.
So why not admit that when questioned in Chicago?
Why not say, “I knew about the 2015 incident and I reported it to my superiors. I told Zach if anything ever came to light about that and it reflected on our program, he would be dismissed. That happened this week, and so we had to part ways.”
Would that revelation have brought the mighty Ohio State football program to its knees?
Would it have damaged Urban Meyer in any way that would have exposed him to a possible firing?
No and no.
So why did Meyer not tell the truth?[/]...
It wasn’t that he came to Chicago “not adequately prepared.” It’s far more likely Meyer had pondered the questions he would receive for the better part of 16 hours and was exceedingly prepared.
And probably exceedingly ticked off he’d have to shine some light on the dirty laundry in his program.
That’s why someone puts forth a false narrative and sticks to it resolutely while given repeated chances to tell the truth or correct his earlier lies throughout the day.
Meyer is rarely thrust into such situations, and it’s hard to envision how he could have handled it more deplorably.
While sycophants will excuse it as simply lying to the media -- a stupid defense, given reporters are the conduit to the general public -- there is an enormous difference between concealing which player will start at quarterback, or whether a tackle’s ankle injury has fully healed and repeatedly denying, and thus trivializing, domestic violence allegations against a staff member.
If Meyer doesn’t understand the difference, then his oft-stated core value of, “Treat women with respect,” rings as hollow as the only other core value he lists above that one, “Honesty.”
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So you think lying to the media is.fireable if the topic is important enough, or if the coach is trying to avoid negative publicity?
Same people had Dantonio and Izzo lead off with nooses around their neck last year. Because having a "hot take" has become more important than a reasoned decision when all the facts are in.
Hot take my ass, the lying is totally unacceptable no matter how he wants to aww shucks it.
Of course I think what he did is a fireable thing. Frankly given the seriousness of the matter I'm surprised you don't. If you were that woman's lawyer, or brother, or that woman herself no doubt you'd think differently. If you actually think, actually buy, that Meyer was caught off guard gee whiz shit, well, I find that hard to believe. I guess I really don't know you at all.
To paraphrase Sherlock Holmes, it is a capital mistake to theorize without facts. You start to fit facts into your theory rather than come up with a theory that covers the facts. This is particularly true with you since admitting error is so difficult for you. When the story first broke you put yourself in a position where "fire Urban Meyer!" is the only acceptable outcome for you, regardless of what the facts will show.
Did Meyer follow the proper reporting policy? If the answer is yes, then your Old.West lynch mob mentality that decides, well, let's hang him for something else is not a mentality I choose to traffic in.
By the way, consider the possibility that our entire justice system has developed to remove the motivations of private vengeance as a factor. The question is not what would you want to do if it happened to you/your family member. The question is what is right. I get.that argument all the time when I discuss the death penalty. What would you want if it was your wife murdered, I get asked. I'd want a wooden post.sharpened and ramrmed up his anus and then raised up so that the weight of his body slowly works the post up to his vital organs causing him to die in unspeakable agony,.slowly. Preferably this soul take place at noon, and of July, in Gila.Bend. THAT IS NOT THE POINT.
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ESPN (and others) saying Urban is not the victim, Courtney Smith is the victim and this should be about her. What were the frickin police doing for the last three years?
Did Urban Meyer know something first hand that the police were not already made aware of directly from Courtney? They arrested the guy, so I'm pretty sure they already knew about it. They are required to do investigations right? And if Smith had been fired while she was still living in the house would that have helped her or made it worse?
Check your facts.
Smith was never arrested.
Abusers often aren't. Doesn't mean they aren't guilty.
Do you ever read ESPN's posts for context, or just automatically respond?
My first impulse is to simply tell you to fuck off. But I'll bite my tongue.
Sigh, I know he was right that the guy wasn't arrested. I'm not the friggin moron you continually try to make me out to be.
I simply said not arrested doesn't mean not guilty. And as such indicate thusly that any reported abuse would be investigated as a matter of routine whether he was arrested or not. As a lawyer you know that.
So, even if the guy wasn't arrested the point/question of Scotty's post still stands notwithstanding his error on the non-arrest.
Personally Scotty has a good point. The guy was/is a danger to this lady. And really that is what all of this should be about and why any lying on Meyer's end cannot be tolerated. He's got to go. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence and integrity knows this to be true. Sycophants of course will disagree. Do you?
You have often erringly called others here misogynists while implying that you aren't. It is now time for you to back that up as more than just talk. Step up or step off.
Fuck off.
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While sycophants will excuse it as simply lying to the media -- a stupid defense
Perhaps he felt that it is not his responsibility to dispense justice in this matter. Maybe he is of the opinion that it is the responsibility of the legal system to deal with this situation. It might be that he feels that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, not in the court of public opinion. Maybe he feels that it is not up to him to possibly ruin someones career and/or life until the subject is found guilty in a court of law. Why isn’t this in the purview of the legal system? Go to the police. Present your case. Insist that they press charges against this guy. If that doesn’t work sue him civilly. If he is found guilty by the legal system then it’s the duty of the university (or possibly Myer as the responsible administrator in this area) to fire this guy. Now, obviously, Myer pretty much tried to weasel out of this whole thing when it came to his statements to the press. But I could see how he might feel that this shouldn’t be his responsibility in the first place. Let the legal system dispense justice and if he is found guilty then dismiss him from his position.
I agree with one clarification.
Our legal system is not set up to “ dispense justice” but rather settle disputes.
Regarding the alleged abuses of Cortney Smith by Zack Smith in 2015 there no such legal disputes.
The timeline as we know it:
In Nov. 9-12, 2015 Powell, Ohio police investigate a claim by Courtney Smith of menacing by stalking by Zach Smith.
No charges are filed,
but Zach Smith is issued a restraining order on Nov. 10. Courtney Smith files for divorce two days later.
Dec. 19, 2017: Zach Smith is given criminal trespass warning after reportedly making "harassment/threats" at 1:30 a.m. on Dec. 17.
No files were charged.
May 12, 2018: Powell police cite Zach Smith with misdemeanor criminal trespass after a dispute with his wife. The two argued over where Zach Smith should have dropped off his son. McMurphy reported Smith's driving into the driveway of his ex-wife's apartment violated the 2015 warning.
July 18, 2018: Zach Smith appears in Delaware County Municipal Court for a pretrial hearing related to the May trespass charge. Court records show Smith pleaded not guilty to the charge on June 5.
July 20, 2018: Courtney Smith is granted an order of protection against her ex-husband that prohibits him from getting within 500 feet of her. The protective order was filed in Delaware County after she claimed she feared for her safety.
July 23, 2018: Zack Smith is fired by Ohio State.
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While sycophants will excuse it as simply lying to the media -- a stupid defense
Perhaps he felt that it is not his responsibility to dispense justice in this matter. Maybe he is of the opinion that it is the responsibility of the legal system to deal with this situation. It might be that he feels that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, not in the court of public opinion. Maybe he feels that it is not up to him to possibly ruin someones career and/or life until the subject is found guilty in a court of law. Why isn’t this in the purview of the legal system? Go to the police. Present your case. Insist that they press charges against this guy. If that doesn’t work sue him civilly. If he is found guilty by the legal system then it’s the duty of the university (or possibly Myer as the responsible administrator in this area) to fire this guy. Now, obviously, Myer pretty much tried to weasel out of this whole thing when it came to his statements to the press. But I could see how he might feel that this shouldn’t be his responsibility in the first place. Let the legal system dispense justice and if he is found guilty then dismiss him from his position.
I have no major problem with the boot it upstairs and let them worry about it, I did my job, defense. As long as he sees the next man up the line did their job too, and so on and so forth. When will Universities recognize that this is a serious subject and America will no longer tolerate it?
No, my problem is with the lying.
It's unprofessional and morally wrong.
And worse IMO was premeditated. Maybe poorly thought out, but premeditated nonetheless. He's got to go for that reason. The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
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ESPN (and others) saying Urban is not the victim, Courtney Smith is the victim and this should be about her. What were the frickin police doing for the last three years?
Did Urban Meyer know something first hand that the police were not already made aware of directly from Courtney? They arrested the guy, so I'm pretty sure they already knew about it. They are required to do investigations right? And if Smith had been fired while she was still living in the house would that have helped her or made it worse?
Check your facts.
Smith was never arrested.
Abusers often aren't. Doesn't mean they aren't guilty.
Do you ever read ESPN's posts for context, or just automatically respond?
My first impulse is to simply tell you to fuck off. But I'll bite my tongue.
Sigh, I know he was right that the guy wasn't arrested. I'm not the friggin moron you continually try to make me out to be.
I simply said not arrested doesn't mean not guilty. And as such indicate thusly that any reported abuse would be investigated as a matter of routine whether he was arrested or not. As a lawyer you know that.
So, even if the guy wasn't arrested the point/question of Scotty's post still stands notwithstanding his error on the non-arrest.
Personally Scotty has a good point. The guy was/is a danger to this lady. And really that is what all of this should be about and why any lying on Meyer's end cannot be tolerated. He's got to go. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence and integrity knows this to be true. Sycophants of course will disagree. Do you?
You have often erringly called others here misogynists while implying that you aren't. It is now time for you to back that up as more than just talk. Step up or step off.
Fuck off.
I agree, always go with your first instinct.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
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There are lots of people out there that 'get it'. And know why Meyer has to be fired by OSU. To do any less puts a stain on the University. Paterno did worse and needed to be fired. Probably should have been prosecuted. But Urban needs to go for the same basic premises.
https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/ (https://1057thezone.iheart.com/featured/bruce-hooley/content/2018-08-04-meyer-lied-in-chicago-and-he-hasnt-stopped/)
Urban Meyer’s social media apology for the lies he repeatedly told about a fired assistant coach's brush with domestic violence might have landed more believably Friday had Meyer not explained his actions with another lie just as fanciful.
“My intention was not to say anything inaccurate or misleading,” Meyer wrote. “However, I was not adequately prepared to discuss these sensitive personnel issues with the media, and I apologize for the way I handled those questions.”
Not adequately prepared?
Urban Meyer?
The man who has won 73 games in six seasons at Ohio State, and all three national championship games in which he has coached during his career, is rarely, if ever, unprepared.
No, what drove Meyer to the brink of precipitating his own firing by needlessly backing himself into a corner with lies told consistently and firmly at least nine times in three separate press conferences over a single afternoon was more likely an overabundance of forethought and planning.
There have probably been many press conferences during Meyer’s 16 seasons as a head coach at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and OSU where he hasn’t been exactly sure of the initial question he would face.
But every Meyer media availability in Chicago carried the certainty of a first question related to the firing of his wide receivers coach, Zach Smith, the night before.
Meyer had one entire evening to confer with OSU crisis management experts and ponder how he would handle those questions about Smith’s dismissal.
Actually, Meyer likely had even longer to prepare, given that Smith’s firing had been a possibility since a report surfaced 11 hours before his firing that detailed his domestic violence issues in the past.[/] ...
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Meyer’s supporters will, of course, defend this ludicrous excuse, just as they would laugh uproariously if Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, Mark Dantonio or any coach perceived as a threat to OSU’s on-field dominance positioned a similar fantasy as truth.[/]
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“There was nothing,” Meyer said. “I don’t know who creates a story like that.”
For the better part of six hours, in front of a mass media gathering, again in a session with print reporters, and again in front of TV cameras, Meyer stuck to that outright denial and dismissive tone.
Here’s the exchange between Doug Lesmeresis of Cleveland.com and Meyer:
Lesmerises: “Are you saying you don’t know anything about that (2015 incident) or are you saying that never happened?”
Meyer shook his head as Lesmerises question began, as if to say he indeed knew nothing about the 2015 incident. And then he said this:
Meyer: “I can’t say it didn’t happen, because I wasn’t there. I was never told about anything. Nothing ever came to light. I never had any conversation about it. So I know nothing about it.”
Five sentences...three outright, bald-faced lies.
A follow-up question from Lesmerises brought this from Meyer:
“The first I heard (about the 2015 incident) was last night.”
Another lie.[/] ...
Only time will reveal the exact reason Meyer chose the absolute worst possible way to handle questions he knew were coming. Most probably, it was his belief his lies would never be exposed, because both he and Ohio State and every big-time college football program are very good at shielding themselves from scrutiny.
If all this leads to Meyer's firing, it will be a mammoth misfortune, prematurely ending a career that could leave him looking down on every other coach in college football as the greatest ever in his profession.
It will damage Meyer’s considerable philanthropic impact in Columbus and stop his uncanny influence helping players realize their NFL dreams.
And if Meyer is fired, it will be entirely of his own doing, because he had the truth on his side and simply refused to tell it.
Meyer’s own social media mea culpa now contends he reported the 2015 Smith domestic violence matter to his superiors.
So why not admit that when questioned in Chicago?
Why not say, “I knew about the 2015 incident and I reported it to my superiors. I told Zach if anything ever came to light about that and it reflected on our program, he would be dismissed. That happened this week, and so we had to part ways.”
Would that revelation have brought the mighty Ohio State football program to its knees?
Would it have damaged Urban Meyer in any way that would have exposed him to a possible firing?
No and no.
So why did Meyer not tell the truth?[/]...
It wasn’t that he came to Chicago “not adequately prepared.” It’s far more likely Meyer had pondered the questions he would receive for the better part of 16 hours and was exceedingly prepared.
And probably exceedingly ticked off he’d have to shine some light on the dirty laundry in his program.
That’s why someone puts forth a false narrative and sticks to it resolutely while given repeated chances to tell the truth or correct his earlier lies throughout the day.
Meyer is rarely thrust into such situations, and it’s hard to envision how he could have handled it more deplorably.
While sycophants will excuse it as simply lying to the media -- a stupid defense, given reporters are the conduit to the general public -- there is an enormous difference between concealing which player will start at quarterback, or whether a tackle’s ankle injury has fully healed and repeatedly denying, and thus trivializing, domestic violence allegations against a staff member.
If Meyer doesn’t understand the difference, then his oft-stated core value of, “Treat women with respect,” rings as hollow as the only other core value he lists above that one, “Honesty.”
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So you think lying to the media is.fireable if the topic is important enough, or if the coach is trying to avoid negative publicity?
Same people had Dantonio and Izzo lead off with nooses around their neck last year. Because having a "hot take" has become more important than a reasoned decision when all the facts are in.
Hot take my ass, the lying is totally unacceptable no matter how he wants to aww shucks it.
Of course I think what he did is a fireable thing. Frankly given the seriousness of the matter I'm surprised you don't. If you were that woman's lawyer, or brother, or that woman herself no doubt you'd think differently. If you actually think, actually buy, that Meyer was caught off guard gee whiz shit, well, I find that hard to believe. I guess I really don't know you at all.
To paraphrase Sherlock Holmes, it is a capital mistake to theorize without facts. You start to fit facts into your theory rather than come up with a theory that covers the facts. This is particularly true with you since admitting error is so difficult for you. When the story first broke you put yourself in a position where "fire Urban Meyer!" is the only acceptable outcome for you, regardless of what the facts will show.
Did Meyer follow the proper reporting policy? If the answer is yes, then your Old.West lynch mob mentality that decides, well, let's hang him for something else is not a mentality I choose to traffic in.
By the way, consider the possibility that our entire justice system has developed to remove the motivations of private vengeance as a factor. The question is not what would you want to do if it happened to you/your family member. The question is what is right. I get.that argument all the time when I discuss the death penalty. What would you want if it was your wife murdered, I get asked. I'd want a wooden post.sharpened and ramrmed up his anus and then raised up so that the weight of his body slowly works the post up to his vital organs causing him to die in unspeakable agony,.slowly. Preferably this soul take place at noon, and of July, in Gila.Bend. THAT IS NOT THE POINT.
No, you miss the point as always when you defend The Big 10 with your no matter what mentality.
At the time of denial, he was guilty. He was obviously lying. And it was quickly proven that he was lying. He needed to go right then and there. So as the story went yes anyone would say fire him. Lynch mob my ass, he was dusted as far as I'm concerned as soon as the lie came out of his mouth and with the text corroborating that he was guilty. If I was an OSU booster I'd want him gone. You seem to think that since he apologized and admitted lying something has changed from that initial moment. Nothing changed for me and as I've posted a myriad amount of other people.
I'm not talking law I'm talking the right thing to do. So don't bring your usual lynch mob bullshit lawyerspeak along to muddy up the water. That sort of sillyass bullshit you try never works on me ace. And as the story developed anyone should still say fire him. But maybe you don't have the moral center to really understand it. After all you are a lawyer.
Law? No need for that in this instance. The law doesn't say he can't lie and then later admit it. And the law doesn't say OSU can't fire him because of it. Lawyers are very good at talking out of both sides of their face. You dude, are a typical lawyer.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
There is no court case to be resolved.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
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There is no court case to be resolved.
If people are going to be fired and branded for life then there should be.
Namely that punishment is warranted.
Oh….I don’t know…..this sounds a little like the people who want to try and keep the old time concept of the student/athlete alive, when anyone who is looking at things in a realistic manner knows that the whole concept is only alive today in the movies. Everybody else who want to look at things in the way that they actually are today (particularly at the big-time football schools) knows that that stuff is dead and gone and is never coming back. Money-Money-Money….
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
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I sent my first payment off to Ann Arbor the other day and I'm now supposed to hate OSU. So I'm staying out of this.
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As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
No, they don't agree with you, de facto or otherwise, because your position is not Meyer's conduct was wrong and deserves discipline, but that Meyer has to be fired, unless you do not have an ounce of intelligence or are a sycophant. THAT is just you working a different factual scenario into your previously stated "he should be fired" stance.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
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As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
No, they don't agree with you, de facto or otherwise, because your position is not Meyer's conduct was wrong and deserves discipline, but that Meyer has to be fired, unless you do not have an ounce of intelligence or are a sycophant. THAT is just you working a different factual scenario into your previously stated "he should be fired" stance.
Your post is pure bullshit, and sadly you are in asshole mode about this. So be it.
There are varying degrees of punishment. Fired is punishment. Suspension is punishment. If they support punishment then they defacto agree with me. The only difference here is the severity of the punishment.
Why you have to be a dick about it is, I suspect, because you are getting, as usual, the shitty end of the debate stick and you don't like it. Not my fault, get smarter.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
Then you are wrong in your belief. I understand you want to believe that. I know you can't fathom anything else as a reason. That's a personal issue you'll have to work out with yourself.
If past precedent is any indicator I won't be holding my breath that you can though.
I suspect it is because you find me a challenge that you just can't seem to master. Don't feel bad dude, coming in second is not a death blow. If you'd only not let your ego get the best of you most of these exchanges wouldn't escalate to the STFU stage.
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I sent my first payment off to Ann Arbor the other day and I'm now supposed to hate OSU. So I'm staying out of this.
Probably a good call on your part.
So how's the Michigan thing going?
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As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
No, they don't agree with you, de facto or otherwise, because your position is not Meyer's conduct was wrong and deserves discipline, but that Meyer has to be fired, unless you do not have an ounce of intelligence or are a sycophant. THAT is just you working a different factual scenario into your previously stated "he should be fired" stance.
Your post is pure bullshit, and sadly you are in asshole mode about this. So be it.
There are varying degrees of punishment. Fired is punishment. Suspension is punishment. If they support punishment then they defacto agree with me. The only difference here is the severity of the punishment.
Why you have to be a dick about it is, I suspect, because you are getting, as usual, the shitty end of the debate stick and you don't like it. Not my fault, get smarter.
They would only agree with you if the issue isn't the extent of punishment. Since it is, they don't. It is like saying if you agree we need strong borders you agree we should build a wall. Identifying a problem is one issue. How you deal with it another. Agreeing on the first is not agreeing on the second.
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She doesn't start for a couple of weeks but is really looking forward to it. I'm not (though I'm happy for her).
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
Then you are wrong in your belief. I understand you want to believe that. I know you can't fathom anything else as a reason. That's a personal issue you'll have to work out with yourself.
If past precedent is any indicator I won't be holding my breath that you can though.
I suspect it is because you find me a challenge that you just can't seem to master. Don't feel bad dude, coming in second is not a death blow. If you'd only not let your ego get the best of you most of these exchanges wouldn't escalate to the STFU stage.
You are missing the context. In that post, I was pointing out what I believe espnstatevitale was trying to say in his post, since as usual you seemed to have difficulty understanding him.
Though this is probably as good a time as any to disdainfully chuckle at your belief that there are winners and losers in internet discussions.
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She doesn't start for a couple of weeks but is really looking forward to it. I'm not (though I'm happy for her).
Oooh I have so much to say about this I cannot edit it down to a single post.
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As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
No, they don't agree with you, de facto or otherwise, because your position is not Meyer's conduct was wrong and deserves discipline, but that Meyer has to be fired, unless you do not have an ounce of intelligence or are a sycophant. THAT is just you working a different factual scenario into your previously stated "he should be fired" stance.
Your post is pure bullshit, and sadly you are in asshole mode about this. So be it.
There are varying degrees of punishment. Fired is punishment. Suspension is punishment. If they support punishment then they defacto agree with me. The only difference here is the severity of the punishment.
Why you have to be a dick about it is, I suspect, because you are getting, as usual, the shitty end of the debate stick and you don't like it. Not my fault, get smarter.
They would only agree with you if the issue isn't the extent of punishment. Since it is, they don't. It is like saying if you agree we need strong borders you agree we should build a wall. Identifying a problem is one issue. How you deal with it another. Agreeing on the first is not agreeing on the second.
Who said they agreed with my actual form of punishment. All I said was they agreed with me that punishment is warranted. And in that respect they agree with me.
They agree with me that it was wrong. Serious enough to warrant punishment.
It is not like saying if you agree we need strong borders you agree we should build a wall. There you are making a conjectural conclusion example that was never inferred by me. More lawyer double talk.
I admit you are very good at it, I've never said you were stupid. Just not good enough to get that shit past me. Why do you try?
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
Then you are wrong in your belief. I understand you want to believe that. I know you can't fathom anything else as a reason. That's a personal issue you'll have to work out with yourself.
If past precedent is any indicator I won't be holding my breath that you can though.
I suspect it is because you find me a challenge that you just can't seem to master. Don't feel bad dude, coming in second is not a death blow. If you'd only not let your ego get the best of you most of these exchanges wouldn't escalate to the STFU stage.
You are missing the context. In that post, I was pointing out what I believe espnstatevitale was trying to say in his post, since as usual you seemed to have difficulty understanding him.
Though this is probably as good a time as any to disdainfully chuckle at your belief that there are winners and losers in internet discussions.
Says the guy that usually loses.
And there was no context lost. Jimmy mumbles a lot.
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She doesn't start for a couple of weeks but is really looking forward to it. I'm not (though I'm happy for her).
They all leave the nest at some point bro. But I know how you feel.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
Then you are wrong in your belief. I understand you want to believe that. I know you can't fathom anything else as a reason. That's a personal issue you'll have to work out with yourself.
If past precedent is any indicator I won't be holding my breath that you can though.
I suspect it is because you find me a challenge that you just can't seem to master. Don't feel bad dude, coming in second is not a death blow. If you'd only not let your ego get the best of you most of these exchanges wouldn't escalate to the STFU stage.
You are missing the context. In that post, I was pointing out what I believe espnstatevitale was trying to say in his post, since as usual you seemed to have difficulty understanding him.
Though this is probably as good a time as any to disdainfully chuckle at your belief that there are winners and losers in internet discussions.
Says the guy that usually loses.
The posting Olympics are entirely in your head, which is probably why you think you "win" them.
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There you are making a conjectural conclusion example that was never inferred by me. More lawyer double talk.
A double-talking lawyer would use "implied" not "inferred."
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
Then you are wrong in your belief. I understand you want to believe that. I know you can't fathom anything else as a reason. That's a personal issue you'll have to work out with yourself.
If past precedent is any indicator I won't be holding my breath that you can though.
I suspect it is because you find me a challenge that you just can't seem to master. Don't feel bad dude, coming in second is not a death blow. If you'd only not let your ego get the best of you most of these exchanges wouldn't escalate to the STFU stage.
You are missing the context. In that post, I was pointing out what I believe espnstatevitale was trying to say in his post, since as usual you seemed to have difficulty understanding him.
Though this is probably as good a time as any to disdainfully chuckle at your belief that there are winners and losers in internet discussions.
Says the guy that usually loses.
The posting Olympics are entirely in your head, which is probably why you think you "win" them.
People don't debate just to hear the sound of their own voice. And yes some do it just to be an asshole. Although I suppose you could be doing one of those.
Or possibly both.
No matter.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
Then you are wrong in your belief. I understand you want to believe that. I know you can't fathom anything else as a reason. That's a personal issue you'll have to work out with yourself.
If past precedent is any indicator I won't be holding my breath that you can though.
I suspect it is because you find me a challenge that you just can't seem to master. Don't feel bad dude, coming in second is not a death blow. If you'd only not let your ego get the best of you most of these exchanges wouldn't escalate to the STFU stage.
You are missing the context. In that post, I was pointing out what I believe espnstatevitale was trying to say in his post, since as usual you seemed to have difficulty understanding him.
Though this is probably as good a time as any to disdainfully chuckle at your belief that there are winners and losers in internet discussions.
Says the guy that usually loses.
The posting Olympics are entirely in your head, which is probably why you think you "win" them.
People don't debate just to hear the sound of their own voice.
You think people (other than you) read their posts aloud when they type?
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There you are making a conjectural conclusion example that was never inferred by me. More lawyer double talk.
A double-talking lawyer would use "implied" not "inferred."
Are ya helping me YG? :-)
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
Then you are wrong in your belief. I understand you want to believe that. I know you can't fathom anything else as a reason. That's a personal issue you'll have to work out with yourself.
If past precedent is any indicator I won't be holding my breath that you can though.
I suspect it is because you find me a challenge that you just can't seem to master. Don't feel bad dude, coming in second is not a death blow. If you'd only not let your ego get the best of you most of these exchanges wouldn't escalate to the STFU stage.
You are missing the context. In that post, I was pointing out what I believe espnstatevitale was trying to say in his post, since as usual you seemed to have difficulty understanding him.
Though this is probably as good a time as any to disdainfully chuckle at your belief that there are winners and losers in internet discussions.
Says the guy that usually loses.
The posting Olympics are entirely in your head, which is probably why you think you "win" them.
People don't debate just to hear the sound of their own voice.
You think people (other than you) read their posts aloud when they type?
Yak about context and then take something out of context. You have no shame do you. You are the absolute king of bullshit, I'll give you that.
But here's a better poser for you. You think anyone(other than you[and Skippy]) believes your bullshit?
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Okay, I've had enough for today. As always I'll give you the last word. Have at it.
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The integrity of the University is at stake. If not him then the man above him. Maybe both.
I’ll say once again….Should the university officials be the ones to determine this mans guilt or should it be a court of law? Anything is possible should the only proof be one side’s allegations. At most suspend him until a court case is resolved one way or another.
As to the blatant lying bro there is no question of his guilt. Is there? And that is where I base my 'fire him' stance. Others want to give him a pass, or a suspension.
Any of the people that want to give him a suspension defacto then agree with me. Namely that punishment is warranted.
“ Punishment is warranted”!
In other words it is Ohio State.
LOL
It is Ohio State what? Please be more clear on that statement.
If you think I'm saying it is OSU that should be punished you are wrong. They've, on the surface, done the right thing. So far. I can't speak for what has happened behind the scenes yet.
If you are implying that I'm saying that it is up to OSU to dole out the punishment, then yes. You are correct for a change. That's probably just a blind squirrel nut thing for you though.
But I suspect you meant the former, as you are usually wrong and way off base in your own inimitable opaque fashion.
I believe the third option is that your opinion that punishment is warranted is because it is OSU in the crosshairs. Which was my reading.
Then you are wrong in your belief. I understand you want to believe that. I know you can't fathom anything else as a reason. That's a personal issue you'll have to work out with yourself.
If past precedent is any indicator I won't be holding my breath that you can though.
I suspect it is because you find me a challenge that you just can't seem to master. Don't feel bad dude, coming in second is not a death blow. If you'd only not let your ego get the best of you most of these exchanges wouldn't escalate to the STFU stage.
You are missing the context. In that post, I was pointing out what I believe espnstatevitale was trying to say in his post, since as usual you seemed to have difficulty understanding him.
Though this is probably as good a time as any to disdainfully chuckle at your belief that there are winners and losers in internet discussions.
Says the guy that usually loses.
The posting Olympics are entirely in your head, which is probably why you think you "win" them.
People don't debate just to hear the sound of their own voice.
You think people (other than you) read their posts aloud when they type?
Yak about context and then take something out of context.
Have I ever mentioned that I crack myself up? Take the bait every time.But here's a better poser for you. You think anyone(other than you[and Skippy]) believes your bullshit?
At least as many (other than you [and your alter ego]) believes yours.
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Ut oh Scotty.
USC's Porter Gustin set for surgery to repair small meniscus tear
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24324821/porter-gustin-usc-trojans-miss-2-5-weeks-knee-injury (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24324821/porter-gustin-usc-trojans-miss-2-5-weeks-knee-injury)
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BTW Scott, are you surprised Helton has signed this kid and given him a second chance?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24314985/usc-trojans-sign-ol-bernard-schirmer-punched-juco-ref-2016
(http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24314985/usc-trojans-sign-ol-bernard-schirmer-punched-juco-ref-2016)
He has repeatedly said the punch was accidental. and looking at the film I can see how it was an accident. It looked like the kid punched himself, kinda like an MLB baseball pitcher did this year. And, to me, it looks like the kid's elbow KO-ed the ref.
Footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n1AFVvVzLo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n1AFVvVzLo)
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Anyone else just get a fake IM from Maximcgt?
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Check your facts.
Smith was never arrested.
I will recheck. I posted this directly after reading an article stating that he was
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Ut oh Scotty.
Only supposed to be 4 weeks last I heard. We're pretty deep on defense
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BTW Scott, are you surprised Helton has signed this kid and given him a second chance?
I am very surprised. While he was fully acquitted of punching the ref --it was called obviously accidental-- I saw a couple of shots of this kids twitter feed and it was not something that I was comfortable with. Helton obviously has access to more info than I do though.
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I see... there is even controversy regarding whether or not he was arrested... funny stuff going on indeed.
https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/06/police-zach-smith-never-arrested-in-2015/ (https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/06/police-zach-smith-never-arrested-in-2015/)
What really surprises me though is that in that post I was trying give Urban Meyer the benefit of the doubt and you told me to get my facts straight. Funny Stuff all around.
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here's the story i read last week when it was being speculated that we would sign him...
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/09/12/local-college-football-player-suspended-for-5-years-for-punching-referee/ (https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/09/12/local-college-football-player-suspended-for-5-years-for-punching-referee/)
From Helton:
"He's a young man from Mt. SAC that we learned about in spring recruiting. We knew his history with an in-game incident that he had to pay penance for. We vetted for three months this individual, talking with administrators at Mt. SAC, coaches, counselors and also had a chance to sit down with his family over the summer," said Helton. "What we learned from the administrators, coaches and counselors is that we were dealing with a tremendous young man, a young man that is a tremendous student, great person and a guy that we had no question would be a great member of our Trojan family.....we listed the expectations that we expect for Bernard and we understand that he knows those expectations and he will do a great job here as a Trojan. We are very excited."
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Check your facts.
Smith was never arrested.
I will recheck. I posted this directly after reading an article stating that he was
It was originally reported that he was arrested but that later changed Scotty. But the fact that he wasn't arrested doesn't mean squat and it was just Skip showing off. The point of your post still stands that their would be an investigation. There's always an investigation for claimed domestic violence, How thorough that 'investigation' is though varies with police depts. Some are better than others. Sometimes it ends with the officers leaving and filing a report at the station, Other times it's more thorough.
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here's the story i read last week when it was being speculated that we would sign him...
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/09/12/local-college-football-player-suspended-for-5-years-for-punching-referee/ (https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/09/12/local-college-football-player-suspended-for-5-years-for-punching-referee/)
From Helton:
"He's a young man from Mt. SAC that we learned about in spring recruiting. We knew his history with an in-game incident that he had to pay penance for. We vetted for three months this individual, talking with administrators at Mt. SAC, coaches, counselors and also had a chance to sit down with his family over the summer," said Helton. "What we learned from the administrators, coaches and counselors is that we were dealing with a tremendous young man, a young man that is a tremendous student, great person and a guy that we had no question would be a great member of our Trojan family.....we listed the expectations that we expect for Bernard and we understand that he knows those expectations and he will do a great job here as a Trojan. We are very excited."
Wouldn't it have been easier if he just said "we think he can help us win some games"?
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Wouldn't it have been easier if he just said "we think he can help us win some games"?
Definitely easier and perhaps more genuine.
I do tend to think Helton is an upright guy, but I will be watching this one very closely. Kid will be on a short leash.
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10211886876396166&id=1498798014 (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10211886876396166&id=1498798014)
OSU's counter offensive in the court of public opinion continues...
14 days is plenty of time to turn things around.
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10211886876396166&id=1498798014 (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10211886876396166&id=1498798014)
OSU's counter offensive in the court of public opinion continues...
14 days is plenty of time to turn things around.
Interesting read.
Once again I ask, so why did Meyer lie? Why shoot himself in the foot for no reason? The whole thing just doesn't make sense.
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so why did Meyer lie? Why shoot himself in the foot for no reason? The whole thing just doesn't make sense.
A lot of people will be coming back to that same question.
I have mixed feelings on it. When I posted that earlier, I was sort of questioning the value of the Title IX requirement to report. I'm not sure it would have helped the lady in any way if he did.
And while it is easy to think a cover up may be happening, I also know there is really no way to keep that quiet in the long run. If the folks at OSU are trying to create a fake paper trail, their punishment in the long term when that came out would be much, much worse. And they are certainly smart enough to understand that...so I tend to doubt it is happening that way.
...now marketing to public opinion is another matter.
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10211886876396166&id=1498798014 (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10211886876396166&id=1498798014)
OSU's counter offensive in the court of public opinion continues...
14 days is plenty of time to turn things around.
Interesting read.
Once again I ask, so why did Meyer lie? Why shoot himself in the foot for no reason? The whole thing just doesn't make sense.
For what it is worth I found his explanation for the lie unpersuasive. But if he followed the proper reporting policy he will not.get.fired, and should not.
It may be as.simple as putting the story behind him without subjecting OSU to additional lingering scrutiny about their response. A response which is really lacking in the current zeitgiest.
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so why did Meyer lie? Why shoot himself in the foot for no reason? The whole thing just doesn't make sense.
A lot of people will be coming back to that same question.
I have mixed feelings on it. When I posted that earlier, I was sort of questioning the value of the Title IX requirement to report.
There is none.
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There is none.
The ability to nitpick on semantics and contradict everything someone else says is not really a life skill.
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Yes it is...
Just thought I would save you the trouble.
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Yes it is...
Just thought I would save you the trouble.
Suit yourself.
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There is none.
The ability to nitpick on semantics and contradict everything someone else says is not really a life skill.
I wasted three years and $100,000 in early 80s dollars then.
There are no Title IX implications to the Smith issue, because it does not cover the treatment of the wives of University employees.
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so why did Meyer lie? Why shoot himself in the foot for no reason? The whole thing just doesn't make sense.
A lot of people will be coming back to that same question.
I have mixed feelings on it. When I posted that earlier, I was sort of questioning the value of the Title IX requirement to report. I'm not sure it would have helped the lady in any way if he did.
And while it is easy to think a cover up may be happening, I also know there is really no way to keep that quiet in the long run. If the folks at OSU are trying to create a fake paper trail, their punishment in the long term when that came out would be much, much worse. And they are certainly smart enough to understand that...so I tend to doubt it is happening that way.
...now marketing to public opinion is another matter.
Hell, maybe it's as simple as Meyer really is just that stupid. Or arrogant. Or both.
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There is none.
The ability to nitpick on semantics and contradict everything someone else says is not really a life skill.
LOL
Hasan CHOP!
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so why did Meyer lie? Why shoot himself in the foot for no reason? The whole thing just doesn't make sense.
A lot of people will be coming back to that same question.
I have mixed feelings on it. When I posted that earlier, I was sort of questioning the value of the Title IX requirement to report.
I think his contract requires him to report it. Title IX doesn't.
Going by that I assume if he knew his neighbor was abusing his wife he would also be obligated, under his contract, to report that too. But I could be wrong.
The bigger question is what the next guy up the chain is required to do. I'm assuming the OSU policy requires him to boot it upstairs too.
And the biggest question then would be when it gets to Olympus what happens then?
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There are no Title IX implications to the Smith issue, because it does not cover the treatment of the wives of University employees.
If that is the case why did they bother suspending him? There is certainly no crime involved on his part. Just public opinion? If so, they are proceeding just as you would expect. Like I said originally -- I fully expect him to be back on the job soon.
...I can hear Casey asking ...then why did he lie? The only reason seems to be one of character.
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10211886876396166&id=1498798014 (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10211886876396166&id=1498798014)
OSU's counter offensive in the court of public opinion continues...
14 days is plenty of time to turn things around.
Interesting read.
Once again I ask, so why did Meyer lie? Why shoot himself in the foot for no reason? The whole thing just doesn't make sense.
For what it is worth I found his explanation for the lie unpersuasive. But if he followed the proper reporting policy he will not.get.fired, and should not.
It may be as.simple as putting the story behind him without subjecting OSU to additional lingering scrutiny about their response. A response which is really lacking in the current zeitgeist.
Fair enough.
As to the should not get fired we disagree. That much is obvious to anyone here that isn't comatose. Anyone seen JB lately BTW?
And also, 'for what it's worth',
Meyer can also be fired for an act that puts either him or the university: “into public disrepute, embarrassment, contempt, scandal or ridicule or failure by Coach to conform Coach's personal conduct to conventional and contemporary standards of good citizenship, with such conduct offending prevailing social mores and values and/or reflecting unfavorably upon Ohio State's reputation and overall primary mission and objectives, including but not limited to, acts of dishonesty, misrepresentation, fraud or violence that may or may not warrant criminal prosecution by the relevant authorities.”
zeitgeist, funny shit.
The 100k$ joke was funny too.
You're still a dick.
Sometimes.
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There are no Title IX implications to the Smith issue, because it does not cover the treatment of the wives of University employees.
If that is the case why did they bother suspending him?
They didn’t.
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There are no Title IX implications to the Smith issue, because it does not cover the treatment of the wives of University employees.
If that is the case why did they bother suspending him?
They didn’t.
I believe the "him" was Meyer. Pretty clear from the part of the post you deleted.
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They didn’t.
Again, ludicrous semantics on your part.
It makes you appear petty. Is that your intention?
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There are no Title IX implications to the Smith issue, because it does not cover the treatment of the wives of University employees.
If that is the case why did they bother suspending him?
They didn’t.
I believe the "him" was Meyer. Pretty clear from the part of the post you deleted.
The point is Meyer was not suspended.
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They didn’t.
Again, ludicrous semantics on your part.
It makes you appear petty. Is that your intention?
My intention is argue facts.
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I believe the "him" was Meyer. Pretty clear from the part of the post you deleted.
he knew that. He is making the point that "officially" it is a paid leave...and not a suspension. The word suspend, means "pause" and often that is what a suspension is for - to put everything on hold while investigating...so to a reasonable person it is basically the same thing...but he is right that there are nuances and shades of grey.
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My intention is argue facts.
Then it's just a side effect
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I believe the "him" was Meyer. Pretty clear from the part of the post you deleted.
he knew that. He is making the point that "officially" it is a paid leave...and not a suspension.
Really? Jesus, even I think that's undue nit picking.
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There are no Title IX implications to the Smith issue, because it does not cover the treatment of the wives of University employees.
If that is the case why did they bother suspending him?
They didn’t.
I believe the "him" was Meyer. Pretty clear from the part of the post you deleted.
The point is Meyer was not suspended.
Give yourself a gold star.
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I believe the "him" was Meyer. Pretty clear from the part of the post you deleted.
he knew that. He is making the point that "officially" it is a paid leave...and not a suspension.
Really? Jesus, even I think that's undue nit picking.
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Okay, I'm awake again.
I read something I couldn't believe I thought I read, wait....
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They didn’t.
Again, ludicrous semantics on your part.
It makes you appear petty. Is that your intention?
My intention is argue.
FIFY.
https://youtu.be/wxrbOVeRonQ (https://youtu.be/wxrbOVeRonQ)
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How young those guys all look now. I have not seen that clip in a good many years.
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How young those guys all look now. I have not seen that clip in a good many years.
Saw an interview with Cleese where be talked about how odd it was that people still ask him about nearly 50 year old comedy routines. Which made me realize how damned old I am, and also how timeless many of those bits are.
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Monty Python was like the little girl with the curl.
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Well it looks like the clock is ticking on DJ Durkin. May have to rethink my interest in college football. Tired of jerks running programs
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Well it looks like the clock is ticking on DJ Durkin. May have to rethink my interest in college football. Tired of jerks running programs
October 6 is a date you should mark on your calendar then.
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Yep. Maryland is everybody's homecoming game team of choice. Interesting thing, students at Maryland don't have to pay to go to games at Byrd (there's an athletic fee paid wiith tuition but it's minimal). At Michigan the students pay for each game's ticket (I presume that's the wayvat most "football schools")." Despite not knowing anything about football and caring even less, my daughter bought the tickets.
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I'm watching Orioles-Red Sox game and in an interesting coincidence an ad for Maryland football tickets came on. One of the lines in the ad was "Game times to be announced; what time can you get here?"
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Yep. Maryland is everybody's homecoming game team of choice. Interesting thing, students at Maryland don't have to pay to go to games at Byrd (there's an athletic fee paid wiith tuition but it's minimal). At Michigan the students pay for each game's ticket (I presume that's the wayvat most "football schools")." Despite not knowing anything about football and caring even less, my daughter bought the tickets.
Nice.
At least she paid for them
Not the taxpayers.
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At Michigan the students pay for each game's ticket (I presume that's the wayvat most "football schools")."
USC sells a student athletics package that includes all home games and basketball games for a reasonable price. There is a "student section" that is basically first come first served.
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Football, basketball and hockey tix all go for $175 each for the season. Not terrible.
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My recollection is half price tickets.
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Well it looks like the clock is ticking on DJ Durkin. May have to rethink my interest in college football. Tired of jerks running programs
Just read the ESPN article. Sounds like it was definitely an old school approach... I think there was a movie on Bear Bryant's early coaching and it sounds a bit like that--where they almost want kids throwing up to toughen them up. Just doesn't fit with today's values and then obviously you run the risk of an outlier incident like McNair. A real tragedy there.
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They didn’t.
Again, ludicrous semantics on your part.
It makes you appear petty. Is that your intention?
My intention is argue.
FIFY.
Argue?
In a College Football Chat Room?
You can’t be serious.
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Durkin suspended...or put on leave if you prefer
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Did SUBURBAN LIAR, or C.H.U.D....
resign yet...I was distracted by golf...,
...just when you thought the SEC (FLA, et. al.) had a franchise on mental and physical abuse of men whose meals depend on compliance with Sadists, when they are allowed to hydrate, funny that hydration or lack thereof separates the pussies from the “men”...
...well, now the BIGSMALLs and TOSU/MD have really lost the plot on sports...a shame, that you spend a summer with a joke of a president and can’t shift focus to football without realizing that everything is depressing and sad.
Thanks, CHUD, and FUCK YOU!!!
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...well, now the BIGSMALLs and TOSU/MD have really lost the plot on sports...a shame, that you spend a summer with a joke of a president and can’t shift focus to football without realizing that everything is depressing and sad.
Should have left Maryland back in the minor leagues of CFB where they fit in and you would make excuses for them.
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...well, now the BIGSMALLs and TOSU/MD have really lost the plot on sports...a shame, that you spend a summer with a joke of a president and can’t shift focus to football without realizing that everything is depressing and sad.
Should have left Maryland back in the minor leagues of CFB where they fit in and you would make excuses for them.
Right, Urban doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him. He makes his own.
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...well, now the BIGSMALLs and TOSU/MD have really lost the plot on sports...a shame, that you spend a summer with a joke of a president and can’t shift focus to football without realizing that everything is depressing and sad.
Should have left Maryland back in the minor leagues of CFB where they fit in and you would make excuses for them.
Right, Urban doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him. He makes his own.
The person my post recerenced by implication is D. J. Durkin and the program is Maryland. But scratch that itch.
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...well, now the BIGSMALLs and TOSU/MD have really lost the plot on sports...a shame, that you spend a summer with a joke of a president and can’t shift focus to football without realizing that everything is depressing and sad.
Should have left Maryland back in the minor leagues of CFB where they fit in and you would make excuses for them.
Right, Urban doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him. He makes his own.
The person my post recerenced by implication is D. J. Durkin and the program is Maryland. But scratch that itch.
Yes, I know who you were recerencing.
But I saw the words make excuses and immediately thought of St. Urban.
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...well, now the BIGSMALLs and TOSU/MD have really lost the plot on sports...a shame, that you spend a summer with a joke of a president and can’t shift focus to football without realizing that everything is depressing and sad.
Should have left Maryland back in the minor leagues of CFB where they fit in and you would make excuses for them.
Right, Urban doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him. He makes his own.
The person my post recerenced by implication is D. J. Durkin and the program is Maryland. But scratch that itch.
Yes, I know who you were recerencing.
But I saw the words make excuses and immediately thought of St. Urban.
Like I said, scratch that itch. You are like RedDickJimmThree over in the politics forum, who eventually brings every discussion around to Hillary Clinton, regardless of where it started. Or Mr. Dick, who can't keep King Charles's head out of his own, or out of his Memorial.
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...well, now the BIGSMALLs and TOSU/MD have really lost the plot on sports...a shame, that you spend a summer with a joke of a president and can’t shift focus to football without realizing that everything is depressing and sad.
Should have left Maryland back in the minor leagues of CFB where they fit in and you would make excuses for them.
Right, Urban doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him. He makes his own.
The person my post recerenced by implication is D. J. Durkin and the program is Maryland. But scratch that itch.
Yes, I know who you were recerencing.
But I saw the words make excuses and immediately thought of St. Urban.
Like I said, scratch that itch. You are like RedDickJimmThree over in the politics forum, who eventually brings every discussion around to Hillary Clinton, regardless of where it started. Or Mr. Dick, who can't keep King Charles's head out of his own, or out of his Memorial.
Yes, every discussion I have is about OSU and Urban Meyer. How very asstoot of you to say that.
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Has it been 14 days yet?
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-urban-meyer-ohio-state-investigation-20180814-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-urban-meyer-ohio-state-investigation-20180814-story.html)
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https://thetylt.com/sports/ohio-state-urban-meyer-fire-zach-smith-domestic-abuse (https://thetylt.com/sports/ohio-state-urban-meyer-fire-zach-smith-domestic-abuse)
At the moment the count is 70.6 to 29.4
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https://thetylt.com/sports/ohio-state-urban-meyer-fire-zach-smith-domestic-abuse (https://thetylt.com/sports/ohio-state-urban-meyer-fire-zach-smith-domestic-abuse)
At the moment the count is 70.6 to 29.4
Scratch that itch.
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https://thetylt.com/sports/ohio-state-urban-meyer-fire-zach-smith-domestic-abuse (https://thetylt.com/sports/ohio-state-urban-meyer-fire-zach-smith-domestic-abuse)
At the moment the count is 70.6 to 29.4
Scratch that itch.
Keep asstootin.
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https://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-state-football-news/brett-mcmurphy-polled-16-ads-on-whether-they-think-urban-meyer-will-be-fired (https://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-state-football-news/brett-mcmurphy-polled-16-ads-on-whether-they-think-urban-meyer-will-be-fired)
Unsurprisingly, the decisions were mixed. The answers ranged from “there’s no way you can keep him” to “I think they will keep him if they can’t 100 percent fire with cause.”
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...Most of the 16 ADs believe Meyer will not remain the head coach at Ohio State, though many left it up to the investigative process
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Meyer is a much closer case than Durkin who I assume has his bags packed already
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Doyel: Urban Meyer will be fired unless Ohio State values winning above truth
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/08/04/urban-meyer-fired-unless-ohio-state-values-winning-above-truth/907484002/ (https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/08/04/urban-meyer-fired-unless-ohio-state-values-winning-above-truth/907484002/)
"...Or not.
Ohio State will not fire Urban Meyer because he has admitted his mistake, admitted his lie, learned his lesson, surely won’t ever do that again. Ohio State will not fire Meyer because he did, ultimately, do the right thing when he fired Smith on July 23 after a report surfaced about a pattern of domestic violence allegations against Smith. And Meyer did, ultimately, do the right thing by clarifying what he knew about the 2015 allegation and when he knew it.
Also, Ohio State will not fire Urban Meyer because he is the second-most successful coach in college football, behind only Alabama’s Nick Saban, and because Ohio State needs Meyer’s football program to generate enough money to fund just about every other sport on campus – and because Meyer’s $90 million football program does it. Ohio State will not fire Meyer because the school cannot simply replace a force of nature like this, not with any reasonable expectation of staying among the top five programs in college football.
Unless Ohio State decides winning isn’t everything.
In which case, Ohio State will fire Meyer because he didn’t merely tell a lie. What he did was so much worse. What he did was take a known allegation of domestic violence – known to him, because the alleged perpetrator, Zach Smith, had told him about it in 2015 – and pretended it never happened.
Insisted it never happened.
Ohio State will fire Urban Meyer because he took a page out of the Lance Armstrong Liar’s Playbook and went far beyond lying to protect himself. Ohio State will fire Meyer because, when he lied at Big Ten media day about the 2015 incident, he turned the tables on his accusers – and undermined the alleged victim, Courtney Smith – by saying: “There’s nothing … I don’t know who would make a story like that.”
Meyer lied so forcefully, he made whoever was telling the truth out to be the bad guy.
That’s why Ohio State will fire Meyer, and not because – though it really deserves to be mentioned – he has a track record of talking tough about domestic violence and swinging a very small stick
Remember Meyer’s reign of terror at Florida, where dozens of his players were arrested – literally, more than 30 Gators were arrested in his six years there –including a running back named Chris Rainey, who was charged with aggravated stalking after he texted a woman that it was “time to die.”
Meyer let Rainey play again because Rainey was fast. And fast players beat less fast players. Florida didn't fire Meyer for that egregious lack of human decency because Florida was spineless.
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Is OSU also spineless? We will see.
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While i am only about 85% certain Meyer will coach in 2018, I am 100% certain he will coach in 2019, if he wants to. And the majority of those Red Queen ADs polled will be the ones knocking at his door.
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Clemson and LSU schedule home and home games:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons)
It's a ways off but I'm likin it.
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Also, Ohio State will not fire Urban Meyer because he is the second-most successful coach in college football, behind only Alabama’s Nick Saban, and because Ohio State needs Meyer’s football program to generate enough money to fund just about every other sport on campus – and because Meyer’s $90 million football program does it. Ohio State will not fire Meyer because the school cannot simply replace a force of nature like this, not with any reasonable expectation of staying among the top five programs in college football.
Every coach at tOSU since the 1950’s has run a football program that underwrites the majority of the costs of the Athletic Department. Even John Cooper.
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Clemson and LSU schedule home and home games:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons)
It's a ways off but I'm likin it.
About time ClemSIN stopped scheduling nothing but low life wimps out of conference. Maybe now they will step up and finally schedule Indiana.
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Clemson and LSU schedule home and home games:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons)
It's a ways off but I'm likin it.
About time ClemSIN stopped scheduling nothing but low life wimps out of conference. Maybe now they will step up and finally schedule Indiana.
Yeah that Indiana Pa team is a tough nut.
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Clemson and LSU schedule home and home games:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons)
It's a ways off but I'm likin it.
About time ClemSIN stopped scheduling nothing but low life wimps out of conference. Maybe now they will step up and finally schedule Indiana.
Yeah that Indiana Pa team is a tough nut.
Shut up. I'm not.trolling you.
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Yeah that Indiana Pa team is a tough nut.
:)
Shut up. I'm not.trolling you.
:)
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My Annual Top 11:
12 through 21, not in order:
the Pennsylvania State University, University of Iowa, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, Miami, Virginia Tech, Stanford, Texas, Old Mississippi State, Louisiana State, some other Big 10 east team whose name escapes me.
11. Michigan State University
We have a chance to be really good. Lost only a couple of significant players from an 10 win season. The most significant of those losses, Center, is not an issue as long as the Allens continue to pop out spawn. Notably, MSU returns Brian Lewerke, who is a decent passer, but can also help with his feet. Three top receivers, Davis Stewart and White, return, as well as L J Scott, who can be a beast. The O line is experienced and talented. I still have questions about Lewerke as a QB, but we should be able to move the ball and score.
As with most recent MSU teams, it is the Defense that will make or break the Spartans this year, and I suspect that defense to be strong. Most everyone returns from last year's top 10 defense, including a talented and deep secondary and key linebackers (Bachie; and... how many Bulloughs can there be?) and D Linemen (Willekes, Panasiuk, Williams). We are going to be good.
Schedule-wise, our big OOC game is at Arizona State, which I fully expect to be a train wreck. Big However Many East has four really good schools and... well. Indiana is a potential bowl team despite 4 losses in the Division, but Rutgers is bad and Maryland... oh my. Can we make the playoffs? Well They Who Must Not Be Named and OSU come to East Lansing, as does Northwestern. Sure we can win the division, and possibly the conference which should put us in against... well, a team that is better than us. My rankings make that team Clemson, which is my personal posting nightmare.
10. Auburn
Interesting opening game, with Washington, that will go a long way to determining Auburn's year. The other key game, of course, is the last game of the regular season. They also have Georgia, before the bye week leading into Alabama. I keep hearing Stridham as a Heisman trophy candidate, or a first round pick, but last year he struggled against the better teams. Auburn has impressive offensive speed and a solid defense. There is starting to be some separation between Alabama and the rest of the God's Conference West, but Auburn is easily good enough to keep them in reach.
9. Oklahoma
Granted I have an interest in believing that Oklahoma will be worse due to the QB leaving. If they are just as good, my team has hitched its wagon to the wrong horse.
Oklahoma is replacing Mayfield with a guy where football is not even his best sport. Still, they return strong skill position guys on offense. Anderson and Sermon are a good backfield tandem, and with Murray's feet should give Oklahoma a strong basis for running. Still, this is the Pure Prairie League and a strong ground game is not going to play alone. The Sooners have some good receivers, if Murray can get them the ball consistently.
Defensively.... that is where I worry. The Sooners Defense played the middle half of the season as if asleep, and collapsed against an admittedly first rate Georgia offense in the Rose Bowl. They have lost a lot of their best defenders as well. They have good talent coming in, but it is those defensive questions and questions about Murray that make me rate them out of the playoffs.
8. University of California of the South
Here you are, troj. Do it for me. I want Darnold to be readily replaceable for the same reason I want Mayfield to not be.
7. Alabama
I am probably just being contrary. There is as much talent here as anywhere. And Satan is the best coach in CFB. Still, the margin of error is fine. If they make the wrong QB choice. Ah, screw it. They will probably win it all again. I am just damned bored with how good they are. I want them to lose twice and so am picking it. Got a problem with my using wishful thinking as a decision point? Yeah? Check out my #1.
6. Wisconsin
Outside of maybe - maybe - Clemson, Wisky is the biggest favorite to make a conference championship, but not just because they are in the weaker half of the conference. Like all Wisky teams, their strength starts in the line and with a strong running game. What is not like all Wisky teams, they have a decent Quarterback. I think OSU is the better team, and Wisky travels to both Penn State and The Team That Must Not Be Named, so they have a couple potential losses. Still, they do not have a Power 5 team OOC, and they are the class of the West. Don't think they beat OSU, though.
5. Washington
The defense should continue to carry them through most of their games. Browning is suffering from the disease of familiarity: he's pretty good, but we have seen enough of him to see his flaws and forget his virtues. He is accurate given time, but he does struggle with pressure. They do get their best WR back from injury, and really only need a competent offense with that Defense. The Huskies should battle USC and Stanford for the PAWCP.
4. the Ohio State University
For what it is worth, absent learning that Meyer did nothing in response to the Smith allegations and did not follow policy, I fully expect him to coach at least 10 regular season games this year. That buy out clause is going to make OSU think long and hard about what constitutes "with cause".
As for the actual games. OSU has the second best Defensive Line in CFB this year. They have to replace a couple of linebackers and D Backs, but like Clemson and Alabama they are replacing talent with equal talent, and for OSU especially talent that has had experience in real pressure situations.
Offensively, they are trying to replace a QB who, despite manifest limitations, was 49 - 6 in four years. Of course, Haskins was the hero of the Meatchicken game, and Dobbins and Weber give OSU a strong running game. Parris Campbell is a great two threat H Back, and the rest of the receiving corps is solid.
Their schedule has that one good OOC game, TCU, and of course they have those three tough division games. But they have a good draw in their West games, avoiding Wisky, Northwestern and Iowa. They are the best bet to win the Big Whatever, and they have the talent to win it all.
3. Georgia
Georgia has lost an awful lot. Maybe I shouldn't have them here. Both Michel and Chubb are gone, but Jake Fromm (State Farm) is still there. Blue chip receivers, blue chip replacements for the two missing backs. I think the offense will be fine. Defensively, they lost my favorite non-Spartan defender in Smith, and some of their top D Linemen, but their replacements have been playing, and they are on paper at least just as talented. Defensive backfield may be their downfall.
2. Clemson
I suppose I should note my normal distrust of any team that does not know who its starting QB will be by August, but "any team" does not have Clemson's Defensive Line, which may be the best I've seen. They have deep and talented linebackers. The secondary is a weakness, in the sense that Rope is weak compared to other Hitchcock movies. This Defense is going to be fun.
Offensively, I wonder if SWINEy is going to go with the Running Back by committee again, or just ride Etienne. Either option is pretty good, but I do think reps help the lead back. The two best wide outs are gone, but no one seems to be panicking. If Bryant returns as the QB, it might matter more since experienced receivers can make up for his lag as a passer. Still, between the backs, the QB and a stellar O Line, Clemson looks like the class of the ACC, easily.
Scheduling is also in their favor. There is no marquee OCC game this year, though South Carolina might be on the rebound. The TAMU game might be fun, but the talent deficit is real. This is a team that could easily run the table.
1. EVENTUAL 2018-2019 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE
We have a chance are going to to be really good great. Lost only a couple of significant players from an 10 win season. The most significant of those losses, Center, is not an issue as long as the Allens continue to pop out spawn. Notably, MSU returns EVENTUAL 2018 HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER Brian Lewerke, who is a decent great passer, but can also help destroy you with his feet. Three top receivers, Davis Stewart and White, return to form the greatest wide receiver group in the country, as well as L J Scott, who can be is a beast. The O line is experienced and ungodly talented. I still have no questions about Lewerke as a QB, so we should be able to move the ball and score impose our will on our helpless victims.
As with most recent MSU teams, it is the Defense that will make or break the Spartans this year, and I suspect know that defense to be strong transcendentally mighty. Most everyone returns from last year's top 10 defense, including a talented and deep secondary and key linebackers (Bachie; and... how many Bulloughs can there be?) and D Linemen (Willekes, Panasiuk, Williams). We are going to be good.
Schedule-wise, our big OOC game is at Arizona State, which I fully expect to be a train wreck. Big However Many East has four really good schools and... well. Indiana is a potential bowl team despite 4 losses in the Division, but Rutgers is bad and Maryland... oh my. Can we make the playoffs? Well They Who Must Not Be Named and OSU come to East Lansing, as does Northwestern. Sure we can win the division, and possibly the conference which should put us in against... well, a team that is better than us. My rankings make that team Clemson, which is my personal posting nightmare Hell yes. We are winning EVERYTHING.
Also, Clemson is a team that could easily run the table - until they run into the mighty and unstoppable force that is the Michigan State University Spartan Football Squad!
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Clemson and LSU schedule home and home games:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24382930/clemson-tigers-lsu-tigers-schedule-games-2025-26-seasons)
It's a ways off but I'm likin it.
About time ClemSIN stopped scheduling nothing but low life wimps out of conference. Maybe now they will step up and finally schedule Indiana.
Yeah that Indiana Pa team is a tough nut.
Shut up. I'm not.trolling you.
Just checking to see if you can handle the dichotomy of it.
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"8. University of California of the South... I want Darnold to be readily replaceable"
Very generous of you to start us out at #8. That could turn out to be a reasonable expectation.
2016 team was 10-3 with a bowl win
2017 team was 11-3 with a Pac 12 championship
I think this team should turn out to be somewhere close to that. I think Darnold was a talented guy but reckless. I don't expect QB to be a problem area for us this year. But there are other unknowns as well.
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I watched a Jets preseason game the other day. I liked the way he played in that game.
But, it's only preseason of course.
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Just checking to see if you can handle the dichotomy of it.
At first I thought you meant one thing, but then I realized you meant something completely different.
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I was confused by OSU President saying yesterday "it will be finished when it's finished." I thought they gave themselves a deadline?
It's actually the perfect time to state that they didn't find anything worth firing him for. The DJ Durkin story is already taking most of the attention away.
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I'm guessing that Durkin, the AD Evans and the School Prez Loh are all out at Maryland.
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I was confused by OSU President saying yesterday "it will be finished when it's finished." I thought they gave themselves a deadline?
It's actually the perfect time to state that they didn't find anything worth firing him for. The DJ Durkin story is already taking most of the attention away.
Maybe they are honestly trying to do a fair, thorough job.
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Maybe.
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Golly gee what a surprise
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Right Bo, but where is the dichotomy in all this? That's the real question here.
Hopefully OSU has the answer.
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https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article217038010.html (https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article217038010.html)
“two sources connected to the investigation said the likely recommendation to university President Michael V. Drake is a suspension for Meyer.”
The report also said “Drake and the board could also opt for a “time served” punishment since Meyer has been removed from football activities for more than two weeks.”
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https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article217038010.html (https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article217038010.html)
“two sources connected to the investigation said the likely recommendation to university President Michael V. Drake is a suspension for Meyer.”
The report also said “Drake and the board could also opt for a “time served” punishment since Meyer has been removed from football activities for more than two weeks.”
If he followed the proper reporting procedure that is about right, lynch-mob mentality aside. I would imagine.trainings and seminars all up and down the program as well.
Cue cap and his fire/every honest person agrees with me/every one else is in the pocket of big buckeye/mendacious moral high ground rant in 10... 9...
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https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article217038010.html (https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article217038010.html)
“two sources connected to the investigation said the likely recommendation to university President Michael V. Drake is a suspension for Meyer.”
The report also said “Drake and the board could also opt for a “time served” punishment since Meyer has been removed from football activities for more than two weeks.”
If he followed the proper reporting procedure that is about right, lynch-mob mentality aside. I would imagine.trainings and seminars all up and down the program as well.
Cue cap and his fire/every honest person agrees with me/every one else is in the pocket of big buckeye/mendacious moral high ground rant in 10... 9...
Right and I'll get to that in just a minute.
But first and not to be dichotomous, I'm looking into getting a mobile hotspot device with no contract just a data card for use in my rental car like a straight talk device or something similar. I don't want to tie up my cell phone using it as a mobile hotspot. Anyone familiar with these?
As to Meyer, the lying sac will most likely get off with a slap on the pinkie.(Not even the wrist) I mean two or three whole weeks he's been agonizingly punished. Oh the horror! THE HORROR!
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You realize of course the emoticons are not working at this time right Scotty?
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Time Served for C.H.U.D.?
lolol??
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As to Meyer, the lying sac will most likely get off with a slap on the pinkie.
Yes…..well, let’s get real about this, shall we? Nobody is going to get bent out of shape about what he did. Most particularly in Buckeye country. They have already experienced losing a big winner in Tressell, and nobody is throwing a coach with Meyer’s record under the bus, particularly when judged in the rarified air that his teams compete within. You better have some rapist players or wholesale graft involved with the program before you bring that sort of weak tea (failure to reveal that he knew about some questionable behavior by one of his coaches) against Meyers record. Right or wrong, that’s just the way it is. Too much money everywhere to have that flow interrupted by something like that. I'm guessing 3 game suspension here (if that).
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I'm guessing a one game suspension.
And you're right most nobody is going to care in OSU land.
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One snowglobe shaken, not stirred, unaware infinitum, absurd...
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Egg
Zachary
Leeland
Wright
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Lynne
Cheryl
Ma
Barker
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Bond
James
Bond
Felix
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would you like to play a game...?
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TOSU update(Cliff notes version)
Board hears report from elite Investigation team.
Board favors immediate reinstatement of Meyer
OSU President Drake balks and favors a suspension
Meyer balks arguing he did nothing wrong
Absent a compromise tOSU about to search for a head football coach and a president
Stay tuned.
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Urban Meyer...
Rested
Ready
Not guilty
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The call is made OSU's penalty for no integrity lying is 3 games.
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Urban Meyer...
Rested
Ready
Not guilty
Officially it is a 3 game suspension as Coach but he is allowed back with the team (with pay)on September 2.
AD Gene Smith gets a 17 day suspension from August 31 to September 16.
"Although neither Urban Meyer nor Gene Smith condoned or covered up the alleged domestic abuse by Zach Smith, they failed to take sufficient management action relating to Zach Smith's misconduct and retained an Assistant Coach who was not performing as an appropriate role model for OSU student-athletes," the school said in a statement outlining the investigation's findings. "Permitting such misconduct to continue is not consistent with the values of the University and reflects poorly on Coach Meyer, Athletic Director Smith, and the University. Their handling of this matter did not exhibit the kind of leadership and high standards that we expect of our Athletic Director, Head Coach, Assistant Coaches and all on the football staff."
Addressing the media Wednesday night, Meyer expressed remorse for giving Zach Smith "benefit of the doubt" and said, "I followed my heart and not my head."
Props to WhiskeyPriest for figuring this out weeks ago.
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Oh look a slap on the wrist.As Mr. Clampett would say,pitiful just pitiful but then it's THe ohio state
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Bosox was here on a daily basis when the Art Briles stuff was going down...Wait
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Trump, the COACH, no DELUSION, no SNOWGLOBE, they say there’s a SNOWGLOBE.
NO
SNOWGLOBE
LOCK HER UP!!
Yours,
C.H.U.D.
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Urban Meyer...
Rested
Ready
Not guilty
Officially it is a 3 game suspension as Coach but he is allowed back with the team (with pay)on September 2.
AD Gene Smith gets a 17 day suspension from August 31 to September 16.
"Although neither Urban Meyer nor Gene Smith condoned or covered up the alleged domestic abuse by Zach Smith, they failed to take sufficient management action relating to Zach Smith's misconduct and retained an Assistant Coach who was not performing as an appropriate role model for OSU student-athletes," the school said in a statement outlining the investigation's findings. "Permitting such misconduct to continue is not consistent with the values of the University and reflects poorly on Coach Meyer, Athletic Director Smith, and the University. Their handling of this matter did not exhibit the kind of leadership and high standards that we expect of our Athletic Director, Head Coach, Assistant Coaches and all on the football staff."
Addressing the media Wednesday night, Meyer expressed remorse for giving Zach Smith "benefit of the doubt" and said, "I followed my heart and not my head."
Props to WhiskeyPriest for figuring this out weeks ago.
Some real funny shit there all around. Keep up the jokes.
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Bosox was here on a daily basis when the Art Briles stuff was going down...Wait
Not really, Bo has never been here on a regular daily basis. He sporadically posts.
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http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20180823/gene-frenette-by-slapping-meyer-on-wrist-osu-sacrifices-piece-of-its-soul (http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20180823/gene-frenette-by-slapping-meyer-on-wrist-osu-sacrifices-piece-of-its-soul)
Yes, they knew Meyer had to be punished beyond a time-served preseason suspension or women would be staging protests and holding up signs all over campus. OSU couldn’t have those visuals on CNN and every cable news outlet. The administration had to make it look like school leaders cared about domestic abuse while not sabotaging a promising football season.
So president Michael Drake, the Board of Trustees and an investigative team led by former U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White went over 60,000 pages of documents, pored over 10,000 text messages and 40,000 e-mails. And then. . . . they caved.
OSU appeased a football-crazed fan base more than sending a stern message about intolerance for domestic abuse.
Not allowing Meyer to coach the first three games, against outmanned Oregon State and Rutgers at home, then rebuilding TCU in Arlington, Tx., isn’t a massive consequence. A 17-day suspension for athletic director Gene Smith -- for not taking quicker, sufficient action against Zach Smith or reporting it to compliance after knowing of multiple arrests and incidents against his ex-wife, Courtney -- is a joke.
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Bosox was here on a daily basis when the Art Briles stuff was going down...Wait
Not really, Bo has never been here on a regular daily basis. He sporadically posts.
Yeah. That was my point.
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Urban Meyer deleted texts before handing over phone, OSU investigation finds
http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/ncaa-football/news/urban-meyer-deleted-texts-ohio-state-investigation-domestic-abuse-scandal-zach-smith/lsmq66u7w0fr1bs6xzsz66tk9 (http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/ncaa-football/news/urban-meyer-deleted-texts-ohio-state-investigation-domestic-abuse-scandal-zach-smith/lsmq66u7w0fr1bs6xzsz66tk9)
Ohio State findings: Urban Meyer deleted texts, 'had significant memory issues'
https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/08/ohio_state_findings_urban_meye.html (https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/08/ohio_state_findings_urban_meye.html)
Investigative report: Urban Meyer deleted texts, suffers from memory issues
It is nonetheless concerning that his first reaction to a negative media piece exposing his knowledge of the 2015-16 law enforcement investigation was to worry about the media getting access to info and discussing how to delete messages older than one year."
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So tOSU threw the book at Meyer?
He sits for the cupcakes.
that'll teach him.
Apparently the book had Archie and Jughead on the cover.
Nothing against tOSU, but colleges, just like every other organization, generally does a piss poor job of regulating themselves.
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Bosox was here on a daily basis when the Art Briles stuff was going down...Wait
Not really, Bo has never been here on a regular daily basis. He sporadically posts.
Yeah. That was my point.
If your point is that Bo doesn't like OSU, well that is hardly something anyone here doesn't already know.
His statements are valid nonetheless.
OSU could have and should have done better here.
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Well then let Bo say that about other teams as well and we'll know what his standards are. Otherwise, as usual, it's just simple OSU bashing.
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Ohio State's Impotent Urban Meyer Decision Another Example Of Major College Athletics' Brokenness
We live in a society where as long as you give people want they want and tell them what they want to hear, they will let you get away with nearly anything.
What difference does it make whether you conduct business like a weasel or spout half-truths and full-blown whoppers to indulge your pathetic ego and phony self-image? Just win, baby.
To be clear, I’m talking about Urban Meyer here. Who did you think I meant?
People in Columbus, Ohio, want to win football games, which is why Urban Meyer is still the head coach at Ohio State. If not for his having won better than 90% of his games as the Buckeyes’ coach, he’d be out on the street for knowingly keeping an accused domestic abuser on his staff for the better part of the last decade.
It says all that you need to know about Meyer that he never apologized to former assistant Zach Smith’s wife Courtney at Wednesday’s press conference that announced his suspension for the season’s first three games. Not the slightest hint of compassion for a woman he apparently believes was repeatedly beaten by her husband.
I say “apparently” because he fired Zach Smith a month ago for some reason, even if nothing in Meyer’s behavior showed empathy for someone he could have helped and never did.
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Well then let Bo say that about other teams as well and we'll know what his standards are. Otherwise, as usual, it's just simple OSU bashing.
Again, the fact that he doesn't like OSU means very little here. His statements are valid. Nobody can talk about all things at all times. Everyone has priorities, just because his aren't yours makes no difference.
Unless this is a case of, he needs to say what you want him to say when you want him to say it.
If so then okay, cool, I get your point now. Sorry for the confusion.
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Nobody can talk about all things at all times.
He never talks about anything else BUT Ohio State. There are plenty of outrages daily in college football and one of the reasons that I don't follow it all that closely. Meyer should likely have been punished worse, Durkin should have been fired yesterday. Paterno should have been fired immediately. College football is the classic example of the tail wagging the dog. Bo ONLY comes here to talk about whatever sins OSU commits. This is probably out of some sense that he's really sticking it to ESPN3. So be it.
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Stewart Mandel’s take on Meyer’s “ slap on the wrist”.
https://theathletic.com/485839/2018/08/23/ohio-state-football-coach-urban-meyer-suspended-investigative-report/
(https://theathletic.com/485839/2018/08/23/ohio-state-football-coach-urban-meyer-suspended-investigative-report/)
Mandel’s piece includes a link to the 23 page Investigation report which should be read if anyone wants to offer an opinion.
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Nobody can talk about all things at all times.
He never talks about anything else BUT Ohio State. ... ... This is probably out of some sense that he's really sticking it to ESPN3. So be it.
He talks occasionally about Cal and other things.
You seem surprised he said something. Can't imagine why.
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I'm not surprised. As I said.
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Stewart Mandel’s take on Meyer’s “ slap on the wrist”.
https://theathletic.com/485839/2018/08/23/ohio-state-football-coach-urban-meyer-suspended-investigative-report/
(https://theathletic.com/485839/2018/08/23/ohio-state-football-coach-urban-meyer-suspended-investigative-report/)
Mandel’s piece includes a link to the 23 page Investigation report which should be read if anyone wants to offer an opinion.
Nice two paragraphs.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/urban-meyer-suspension-draws-critical-reactions-think-got-off-light-021922789.html
(https://sports.yahoo.com/urban-meyer-suspension-draws-critical-reactions-think-got-off-light-021922789.html)
Urban Meyer was “not complete and accurate” at media day. Wow. That’s some rhetorical gymnastics. I’m not sure one can do a limbo dance low enough to see Ohio State’s “high standards.” https://t.co/6saFkJe4Pu
— Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) August 23, 2018
Meanwhile, some pointed to the Ohio State situation as a symptom of a larger problem with college sports.
Ohio State fans need to shut up trying to justify this. College football fans need to shut up and sheath their swords
Everyone who's any good at this sport is corrupt and awful. That's how it goes. Accept it and shut up, or stop watching and save us all the moralizing headache
— Joey Gulino (@JGulinoYahoo) August 23, 2018
The above guy probably thinks girls that get raped should do the same thing.
CBS’ Dennis Dodd stopped just short of calling the ordeal a coverup.
"What I just heard in that press conference was description of a borderline coverup."@dennisdoddcbs joins @TheKostos on https://t.co/JB1AAXRNa2 to break down Urban Meyer's three-game suspension pic.twitter.com/WCy3PyY5Jh
— CBS Sports (@CBSSports) August 23, 2018
Yahoo’s Dan Wetzel questioned the priorities of those involved.
Ah, first mention of "Buckeye Nation" in this news conference, which feels flippant considering the core issue here so serious. College administrators can't help themselves though.
— Dan Wetzel (@DanWetzel) August 23, 2018
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https://news.osu.edu//services/downloadfile.php?f=osusummaryoffindings-finaldesktop.pdf&uid=579626&hash=10fb4f4ac98235eb025087907ba6ec16a03611a5
(https://news.osu.edu//services/downloadfile.php?f=osusummaryoffindings-finaldesktop.pdf&uid=579626&hash=10fb4f4ac98235eb025087907ba6ec16a03611a5)
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Capbobot -
Which of you brought the rope?
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AD Gene Smith gets a 17 day suspension from August 31 to September 16.
I wondered about this part. When I heard Gene Smith actually called Urban Meyer about the Zach Smith issues, it didn't sound like Meyer could be held culpable for that part.
I think the suspension was as much or more about all the other stuff that came out afterward--photos of penises, etc. None of that would have made news if they had fired the guy earlier. The good old boy club has it's place I guess -- but it really backfired here.
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So tOSU threw the book at Meyer?
He sits for the cupcakes.
that'll teach him.
Apparently the book had Archie and Jughead on the cover.
Nothing against tOSU, but colleges, just like every other organization, generally does a piss poor job of regulating themselves.
For what it is worth, one oh the games he misses is TCU. No cupcake that.
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AD Gene Smith gets a 17 day suspension from August 31 to September 16.
I wondered about this part. When I heard Gene Smith actually called Urban Meyer about the Zach Smith issues, it didn't sound like Meyer could be held culpable for that part.
I think the suspension was as much or more about all the other stuff that came out afterward--photos of penises, etc. None of that would have made news if they had fired the guy earlier. The good old boy club has it's place I guess -- but it really backfired here.
Exactly.
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If you had a daughter, would you let her go to tOSU?
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I was wondering what was taking him so long to chime in
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So tOSU threw the book at Meyer?
He sits for the cupcakes.
that'll teach him.
Apparently the book had Archie and Jughead on the cover.
Nothing against tOSU, but colleges, just like every other organization, generally does a piss poor job of regulating themselves.
For what it is worth, one oh the games he misses is TCU. No cupcake that.
Noted.
Two cupcakes and an out of cupcake game.
The important thing is Urban has learned his lesson has admitted his shortcomings, owned his lie and will become a better person and whup the crap out of the B1G teams.
GO Buckeyes!
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And then get smoked in the postseason, way to go C.H.U.D.!!
ROLOL
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So tOSU threw the book at Meyer?
He sits for the cupcakes.
that'll teach him.
Apparently the book had Archie and Jughead on the cover.
Nothing against tOSU, but colleges, just like every other organization, generally does a piss poor job of regulating themselves.
For what it is worth, one oh the games he misses is TCU. No cupcake that.
True.
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So tOSU threw the book at Meyer?
He sits for the cupcakes.
that'll teach him.
Apparently the book had Archie and Jughead on the cover.
Nothing against tOSU, but colleges, just like every other organization, generally does a piss poor job of regulating themselves.
For what it is worth, one oh the games he misses is TCU. No cupcake that.
Noted.
Two cupcakes and an out of cupcake game.
The important thing is Urban has learned his lesson has admitted his shortcomings, owned his lie and will become a better person and whup the crap out of the B1G teams.
GO Buckeyes!
LOL
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TOP FIVE is all I've got. Been workin waaaay too much this summer.
1: Alabama:
No surprise here. Once again, the Tide will do it with great defense and one of the Top OLs in the nation. This is a team that has lost only one game in 11 of the last 12 seasons. Both QBs can run the offense, Jonah Williams can play guard or tackle. The offensive line is stacked, Leatherwood is a beast. RBs out the wazoo. Top caliber WRs aplenty. The defense will be raw at many positions. The LB is rock solid on starters but will lack depth. The Tide secondary was practically all but erased in terms of starters. The DL also devastated by departees. Eight starters in all. Anybody out there worried? Not me. If there ever was a plug and play team, this is it. I could rattle of a long list of names but why bother. Sabin has talent and he’ll have em coached up. They’ve made every one of the college playoff gigs, already won two, and came within an illegal pick of possibly winning a third.
2: Clemson:
First things first, that DL. Probably the best DL in college football. In fact, this is a downright scary group of dudes. The LB corps get leading tackler Joseph back. Look for Simmons, a safety really playing LB to be all over the place. Another guy I’ll have my eyeball on is Tre Lamar the inside guy.The secondary will be stellar because they have good talent, but even moreso because of that killer DL. On offense, Bryant will be more seasoned and that should help the passing game. But two OL starters need to be replaced. The Tigers have recruited well and should be able to plug replacements in without too much hitch in their giddyup in that re-guard. Renfrow is still there, seems like he’s been there for half a dozen years now plenty of WR to go with him. Travis Etienne has a touch more speed than Feaster but they will make a formidable platoon as both are excellent RBs.
3: Georgia:
It’s now no secret just how good Kirby Smart is at recruiting. He might be the best in the business. Behind his old Boss that is. But if so just tick. If their ever was a loaded team coming into the new season this team is it. Yes, they lost a boatload of guys from possibly the best defense in football last year. Yes, I said it. But due to that incredible recruiting the Kirby and the Dawgs will reload Bama style. They’ve got some tough road games, South Carolina, LSU and Florida. But IMO they have a good chance to run the table to the SEC CG. The OL should be solid, starting QB returns. Yes they lose a couple of great RBs but they have a great one, D’Andre Swift, to plug in. But I had looked for Zamir White to get some reps too. IMO this guy is destined to be another big name Dawg back down the line, but the ACL injury might change that a bit. And then, there’s James Cook with that smooth gliding style. As offensive guys go he’s okay. Wink.
4: OSU:
The fact that they have an unscrupulous head coach, to say the least, notwithstanding. And as I write this I assume OSU will not have the balls to do the right thing. The Buckeyes have a wealth of talent. Let’s start with Dwayne Haskins, possibly the best QB OSU has had for the last couple of decades or so. I am very impressed by this young man’s throwing ability. And he’s got a plethora of good young receivers to throw to. Johnnie Dixon might not be the fastest dude on the field but he’s got good wiggle off the catch and is a TD machine. The OL loses some top talent and the TE needs to be replaced. But the cupboard is full for Liar Meyer. The defense is stout, their DC Schiano, is a bit of a dick. But then you have that everywhere, including chat forums. Schiano knows his stuff though and if you can get by the personality issues he’ll get the job done. Wanna beat him, throw to the TE’s and Fullbacks. Lots of departures on defense. But as is the case with big time defenses these days you play a lot of guys due to rotation, so a lot of guys pick up experience. So they aren’t as inexperienced as all those departures would have you think.
With or without Lia... err... Meyer the Buckeyes are stacked as always with top shelf talent across the board.
5: Washington:
The Huskies are going to be an experienced team across the board this season. That’s, as always, barring injury/s. Peterson has allowed the Husky faithful to forget that just ten years ago they went 0-12. No 22-5 in the last two years will help you forget a lot. But here’s the thing, in order to be the man you have to beat the man. And while Auburn isn’t Alabama it’s the same principle. Lose that first game and, well, it’ll be a long sled back to the top. The OL is mostly back intact and IMO they might be the best OL group in college football this year. Certainly in the top ten. Browning is a savvy vet of Peterson’s system and Gaskin would IMO have been drafted day two if not day one had he opted to leave. On defense Vita is gone but this squad is stacked. Not going to go into individuals as there is way too many off them to mention without mentioning them all. If I were a Huskie fan, and I am not sure I’m not, I’d be salivating at all of the offensive corpses we are going to feed off of this year. But they have to beat Auburn.
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Really going out on a limb there, cap.
I am on vacation the next two weeks, meaning I will miss the first two full weekends of CFB. If MSU stumbles, it is all due to horribly biased referees.
If I do not make it back it is because I am too fat.and slow to out run either Grizzly Bears or my wife.
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Capbobot -
Which of you brought the rope?
Hanging's too good for him
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5: Washington:
Oh Son...you're not buying into all the Petersen hype are you? The Puppies got nothing. Auburn may have less...but still...
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Really going out on a limb there, cap.
I am on vacation the next two weeks, meaning I will miss the first two full weekends of CFB. If MSU stumbles, it is all due to horribly biased referees.
If I do not make it back it is because I am too fat.and slow to out run either Grizzly Bears or my wife.
I'm on vacation too for a couple off weeks. Been on 12 hours a day for the last 6 weeks or so can't really remember, I'm old. Not a lot of time to play with rankings,
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5: Washington:
Oh Son...you're not buying into all the Petersen hype are you? The Puppies got nothing. Auburn may have less...but still...
We'll see ro. For your sake I hope I'm wrong.
But I'm not.
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Any good games this weekend?
We had a little fun last night with the depth chart being released. JT Daniels will be only the second ever true freshman* to start a season opener at QB for USC.
*also graduated early from HS. He's supposed to be a senior this year.
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LSU finally has a decent QB. Joe Burrows, former benchwarmer at tOSU.
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for awhile there I was thinking OSU might wind up with a former LSU head coach. I was thinking...well...if they let UM go, then who would be a high profile type coach these days... Most of the proven quantities have been out of the game for awhile...But Les only a couple of years...
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http://www.jimrome.com/articles/urban-meyer-s-disgrace (http://www.jimrome.com/articles/urban-meyer-s-disgrace)
Just a guess but I'd say Mr. Rome doesn't care for Mr. Meyer.
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Jim Rome probably shouldn't give other people advice on how to live their lives.
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Jim Rome probably shouldn't give other people advice on how to live their lives.
Well, there's always that.
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https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/on-the-urban-meyer-and-ohio-state-disgrace/ (https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/on-the-urban-meyer-and-ohio-state-disgrace/)
… “While those denials (at Big Ten Media Days) were plainly not accurate, Coach Meyer did not in our view deliberately lie.”
Read that sentence again.
So Urban Meyer lied, but he didn’t intend to lie. This, mind you, is the reasoned opinion of the six members of the investigative committee.
What’s remarkable about this statement is Meyer lies throughout the investigative committee’s report. So why in the world does the investigative committee believe Meyer didn’t lie on purpose at Big Ten Media Days? (And is that distinction remotely believable or that important here? Of course not.) If anything, the most consistent part of Meyer’s character is his willingness to tell lies whenever necessary to protect himself.
The reason why the committee reached this strangled conclusion was simple — because Ohio State created this committee to give the appearance of independence, when in reality the committee’s conclusion was predetermined — Ohio State wanted this committee to give them the okay to retain Urban Meyer no matter how damning the evidence was that he should be fired.
The truth didn’t matter. ...
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I honor of President Trump,.I am scrolling through news feeds and social media while pooping. I must say I look forward to coming back to pages and pages of cap both linking to and quoting the professional outrage machine spewing professional outrage about Meyer. Haters hate. That is their function.
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I honor of President Trump,.I am scrolling through news feeds and social media while pooping. I must say I look forward to coming back to pages and pages of cap both linking to and quoting the professional outrage machine spewing professional outrage about Meyer. Haters hate. That is their function.
Right, when you hate it's an opinion. GFY please.
But good idea about sitting on the pot, you are so full of shit it might take a while to empty out. I doubt you'll ever be truly empty though.
If you hear a popping in your ears that means the level has a least down gotten down to neck level. Don't count on that sound happening anytime soon. None of us do.
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I have heard speculation that part of the back room deal with Meyer was to let him retire at the end of the season ...with the appearance of it being on his own terms. Guess we will see.
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I honor of President Trump,.I am scrolling through news feeds and social media while pooping. I must say I look forward to coming back to pages and pages of cap both linking to and quoting the professional outrage machine spewing professional outrage about Meyer. Haters hate. That is their function.
Right, when you hate it's an opinion. GFY please.
But good idea about sitting on the pot, you are so full of shit it might take a while to empty out. I doubt you'll ever be truly empty though.
If you hear a popping in your ears that means the level has a least down gotten down to neck level. Don't count on that sound happening anytime soon. None of us do.
When I hate I revel in it. I do not constantly link to, and then quote from, other haters. I do not demand others share my hate, or argue that people who do not share my hate are dishonest, or irrational, or morally corrupt, like you do.
Shit jokes? That is the level of response I expect from the likes of you.
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I honor of President Trump,.I am scrolling through news feeds and social media while pooping. I must say I look forward to coming back to pages and pages of cap both linking to and quoting the professional outrage machine spewing professional outrage about Meyer. Haters hate. That is their function.
Right, when you hate it's an opinion. GFY please.
But good idea about sitting on the pot, you are so full of shit it might take a while to empty out. I doubt you'll ever be truly empty though.
If you hear a popping in your ears that means the level has a least down gotten down to neck level. Don't count on that sound happening anytime soon. None of us do.
When I hate I revel in it. I do not constantly link to, and then quote from, other haters. I do not demand others share my hate, or argue that people who do not share my hate are dishonest, or irrational, or morally corrupt, like you do.
Shit jokes? That is the level of response I expect from the likes of you.
Sorry my hate isn't up to your stellar standards, you are so much better at your hate displaying of course. That you think you are better than me(and psychologically better than everyone else too) is no surprise though. You've always been of the opinion that your shit doesn't stink you just refuse to admit we are two peas in the same pod. It's part of your makeup and your own personal charm bro. I can live with it because I'm an asshole in that regard just like you.
As to the shit joke it was your shit joke. I just piled on.
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Cuse starting off hot against one of the several Directional Michigan schools.
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Sorry my hate isn't up to your stellar standards
Damn, Cap…..quite the slogging match that you’ve got yourself involved in…..you’re probably making Utley super envious. “How is this guy slinging shit all over the place and I’m not involved? I must be getting old…well, older anyway” Sports…..who would have thunk it?
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Me an Stevie know our shit and are both ultracompetitive with each other. It's an 'us' thing Driver bro.
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Buckeyes slamming an obviously overmatched Oregon State team.
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The Sooners are just annihilating the Owls. I thought the Owls would have a decent defense this year with all those guys back. But that massive Oklahoma OL is jusr blasting them out of the way. The only 'who' going on in this game is Baker Who?
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Ole Miss' DL coach not doing his team any favors. #90 signaling for relief two plays in a row and no relief comes in. No push in the middle and the Tech QB has all day long to toss a TD pass. Pay attention numbnuts.
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The Terps up on Texas. Don't jinx them right YG.
TCU showing why the Buckeyes should take their game against the Frogs very seriously.
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Buckeyes slamming an obviously overmatched Oregon State team.
Yes—doing it on both sides of the ball, too. I figured Oregon State would be a little less cupcake-ish then their usual early season opponents, but apparently not.
TCU showing why the Buckeyes should take their game against the Frogs very seriously.
Certainly—looks like it will be a high scoring affair—made more difficult by it being a road game to Texas. It would be a good idea to shape up their ground game to try and keep that TCU offense on the sideline.
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Looks like Bowl season. All Big Ten teams win except Michigan
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Funny. Redstateward was saying the exact same thing last night.
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saw a little college ball and checked a few scores, initial takeaway with Mich losing, PSU struggling, and the Urban renewal coming soon to Columbus,
tOSU has to be pleased.
So bring me up to speed, who's Bama gonna play at the final dance?
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What's the story with Penn State Cap?
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What's the story with Penn State Cap?
If our defense plays SHITTY like that the rest of the year we are in big trouble. Missed tackles was my biggest problem with them yesterday. But lots of other things including physicality is a large problem. Offense was okay. Not great, just okay.
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I see the Trojans finally woke up offensively in the 4th. Overall a decent startup game for them. Lot of schools showed some rust including the Spartans.
Bo's Bears looked good. Tennessee had better learn how to pass block or they're going to get their young QB wiped out. I tentatively like what I saw from the Badgers' defense. But still, a cupcake win.
Looks like I was wrong a bit about Washington. Still Auburn has a monster in the middle of that DL. WOW!!
I think Sabin knew all along that Tua was the better QB but had to give Hurts a shot. To the untrained eye Bama's defense looked good. But they are a work in progress. I saw enough missed assignments in the Ville' game to drive me insane. You can bet Nicky saw every one of them too, and a few I missed.
That kid from OSU at QB really impressed me. Buckeyes defense is very good. I saw a couple of things that could be exploited though. Liar probably saw them too.
Oklahoma, man I might have been all wet about my expectations from this team. With the pathetic schedule they have I see only three games they have to look out for.
West Virginia getting a lot of love from the press. I'm not ompletely sold on them yet but they have a good team. Soft schedule for them too. Their toughest games are all at the end.
Lastly Finebaum upset at Nicky for his response to the QB questions. Too fucking bad.
The press, regular and sports press these days think they are 'entitled' to 'make' people give them the answers they want. Don't like the answer they got. Tough shit. Stop asking the question or accept the answer you get. Keep asking it and get the answer you get. Either way the results are the same. If Saban wants to be a dick about it okay. You're being dicks about it for continueing to ask, why doesn't he get to be a dick too?
Where's the tongue in cheek emoticon? Doesn't matter emoticons don't work in the present reincarnation of the forums.
I'd ask Josh about it but after this post he just might give me a dick answer. :-)
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There were 16 kickoffs in the Ohio State romp yesterday with just four returns.
The new rule allowing fair catch touchbacks up to the 25 yard line may have been adopted for safety but it sure is boring. And it penalizes a team with a good kicker trying to take advantage of field position.
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There were 16 kickoffs in the Ohio State romp yesterday with just four returns.
The new rule allowing fair catch touchbacks up to the 25 yard line may have been adopted for safety but it sure is boring. And it penalizes a team with a good kicker trying to take advantage of field position.
I actually agree with you.
I may barf.
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Me too, though it has nothing to do with football...
Cousin ELLIS(U) looks good...
I like Coach O, he’s one of the good ones...
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Who's the bigger scumbag..Saban or Meyer
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C.H.U.D.
...he is a dumptruck full of scumbags driving off Shut the Fuck up Donny!! Cliff...
...like he beat Thelma and Louise to the wife beater ragtop oblivion convertible...
Will, Holly...ahhhhhhhh...
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http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24554583
(http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24554583)
Alabama coach Nick Saban called ESPN reporter Maria Taylor to apologize for his reaction to her question about the Crimson Tide's quarterback situation following their win over Louisville on Saturday night.
Actually his initial response was hardly “ classless” it was honest, if not brutally honest to a legitimately asked question.
We need more of those interactions between the media and coaches. We can do without the softball questions and the political responses.
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Me too, though it has nothing to do with football...
Cousin ELLIS(U) looks good...
I like Coach O, he’s one of the good ones...
Lot of talent on the Tigers for sure Bo.
Hey, I'm down in the Low Country on vacation enjoying your great state again. I'm driving along in Myrtle and all off a sudden I'm passed(I was slowing down)by this Moped...
You wouldn't happen to have a helmet with some sort of yellow highlighting would you? :-)
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http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24554583
(http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24554583)
Alabama coach Nick Saban called ESPN reporter Maria Taylor to apologize for his reaction to her question about the Crimson Tide's quarterback situation following their win over Louisville on Saturday night.
Actually his initial response was hardly “ classless” it was honest, if not brutally honest to a legitimately asked question.
We need more of those interactions between the media and coaches. We can do without the softball questions and the political responses.
Oh shit, I agree with you again.
Next thing you know dogs and cats will be living together.
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Me too, though it has nothing to do with football...
Cousin ELLIS(U) looks good...
I like Coach O, he’s one of the good ones...
Lot of talent on the Tigers for sure Bo.
Hey, I'm down in the Low Country on vacation enjoying your great state again. I'm driving along in Myrtle and all off a sudden I'm passed(I was slowing down)by this Moped...
You wouldn't happen to have a helmet with some sort of yellow highlighting would you? :-)
Not that I recall. The dead giveaway is dual blue milk crating, front and back, was he punching it hard into the orange sunset?? For you see, the milk crates can hold a 12-pack each, as well as various and sundry items, bag of corn nuts, moon pie, jerky, tobacco requirements, tolieties, WD40 and the like. Every man is different, but if he cain’t fit his needs into two milk crates, well the world has done drug him in and down, and for his like, I have little use. Of course, to that man I am a Swiss Army knife of moral compromise, in need of money, and my hands are already dirty. He might want to catch me before 4, after 4, I get beer on the brain.
Nothing turns over a moped motor faster than that...
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I disagree with both of you.
In this case, the reporter's question was "What did you learn after watching both quarterbacks play today?"
He "inferred" that she was asking him if he had decided on a starter. His response was childish and inappropriate.
Apparently he was able to see that he made a mistake, as he called her personally to apologize later.
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Hostility toward the media being an everyday event in our depressing political situation, I think that sort of rancor in sports is especially unfortunate.
Or when tone-deafness toward domestic violence 5 years after NFL players 1) throws girlfriend on couch of guns after severe beating (settled out of court, paid, plays for cowboys next season); 2) punches wife on elevator cam (2 then 4 day suspension), such as displayed by Meyer encroaches on good old football...ughhh...
If it’s hard to understand why a man would hit his wife...it’s unfathomable that someone would foster a culture where domestic violence is tolerated..., but as long as Woody Hayes and Paterno apologists can be found at your local Buffalo Wild Wing, history is destined to repeat itself I guess...
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I disagree with both of you.
In this case, the reporter's question was "What did you learn after watching both quarterbacks play today?"
He "inferred" that she was asking him if he had decided on a starter. His response was childish and inappropriate.
Apparently he was able to see that he made a mistake, as he called her personally to apologize later.
IMO she was fishing, threw the tired old line in the water and waited to see if he would bite.
He apologized because he realized he might have hurt her delicate feelings. I can just about guarantee if she were a man no apology would have been forthcoming.
What I like about it is her toughness, she didn't bat an eyelash. My respect for her was already present but it grew even more right there. Big keyones on that lady.
And again, Saban was right, he's not going to disrespect one of those kids without talking with him and the team first. 'I get that', the press doesn't. And that is the way a real coach would and should handle the situation.
But, of course, all of the gentlemen of the press have to come to her defense.
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Hostility toward the media being an everyday event in our depressing political situation, I think that sort of rancor in sports is especially unfortunate.
Or when tone-deafness toward domestic violence 5 years after NFL players 1) throws girlfriend on couch of guns after severe beating (settled out of court, paid, plays for cowboys next season); 2) punches wife on elevator cam (2 then 4 day suspension), such as displayed by Meyer encroaches on good old football...ughhh...
If it’s hard to understand why a man would hit his wife...it’s unfathomable that someone would foster a culture where domestic violence is tolerated..., but as long as Woody Hayes and Paterno apologists can be found at your local Buffalo Wild Wing, history is destined to repeat itself I guess...
BINGO.
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I disagree with both of you.
In this case, the reporter's question was "What did you learn after watching both quarterbacks play today?"
He "inferred" that she was asking him if he had decided on a starter. His response was childish and inappropriate.
Apparently he was able to see that he made a mistake, as he called her personally to apologize later.
What are you disagreeing with?
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The ongoing amusement for me is how coaches regard their QB decision as being as secretive (and important) as nuclear launch codes and the press perpetuates the idea.
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The ongoing amusement for me is how coaches regard their QB decision as being as secretive (and important) as nuclear launch codes and the press perpetuates the idea.
Why wouldn’t a coach want to keep the other coach guessing?
My god that’s been part of sports for time immemorial.
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The ongoing amusement for me is how coaches regard their QB decision as being as secretive (and important) as nuclear launch codes and the press perpetuates the idea.
Well, it is their job dude. It's not like they're tryin to keep the lunch menu a secret.
And in some cases it actually makes it tougher for the other team to prepare defensively if there is a vast difference in players skill set.
There are only so many reps available in practice. So maybe just a little effective.
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Oh shit, I've agreed with Jim again.
Look out for werewolves tonight.
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What's up with Edwards. I know your school lost but you're coming a bit unglued over it dude.
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Fair enough. Gamesmanship. But I would love to see Saban say "it doesn't matter who our QB is."
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Saban overeacted to a legit question about what he saw from his QBs.
The reporter was doing her job.
Saban could have answered the question politely without, as he said, disrespecting either player.
If he doesn't want to answer legitimate questions perhaps he should not represent a University.
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Saban overeacted to a legit question about what he saw from his QBs.
The reporter was doing her job.
Saban could have answered the question politely without, as he said, disrespecting either player.
If he doesn't want to answer legitimate questions perhaps he should not represent a University.
Okay overreacted I'll agree with that. He overreacted. A little bit.
Not a Gundy 'I'm a man' overreaction. Or an Iverson 'Practice', Overreaction.
Certainly not a me responding to Stevie or him to me overreaction.
No, a short 'stop askin' me overreaction.
Pretty wimpy stuff compared to what we fling around in here. Where's the wink emoticon?
I think the press got their nosey little shorts in a bit of a overreaction about it also.
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Robert M. Hutchins was right!!!
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If Coach Saban really thought it through he may come to the realization that the interest built by the press over-reacting to college football over the years pays him $10MM a year to teach football compared to a tiny fraction of that earned by some of his other tenured colleagues at the University of Alabama.
And I overreact here for the fun ot it, but for $10MM a year, I'd put some real heat behind it.
also its not the best look to look like a bully to a woman who's only trying to do her job.
Southern chivalry?
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I assume that C.H.U.D. was suspended 3 games w/o pay, otherwise it would be a hollow affront to the dignity that he does not possess.
Like when your husband hits you and is not suspended by the head coach??
See that’s a shot to the dignity.
Adding insult to injury for paid leave?
Where do I sign up??
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If Coach Saban really thought it through he may come to the realization that the interest built by the press over-reacting to college football over the years pays him $10MM a year to teach football compared to a tiny fraction of that earned by some of his other tenured colleagues at the University of Alabama.
And I overreact here for the fun ot it, but for $10MM a year, I'd put some real heat behind it.
also its not the best look to look like a bully to a woman who's only trying to do her job.
Southern chivalry?
Agreed, he was a meanie.
10MM puts a lot of pressure on a man. The ordinary dude can't handle that shit. Every once in a while cracks appear.
Okay, slap him up I guess. :=)
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If Coach Saban really thought it through he may come to the realization that the interest built by the press over-reacting to college football over the years pays him $10MM a year to teach football compared to a tiny fraction of that earned by some of his other tenured colleagues at the University of Alabama.
And I overreact here for the fun ot it, but for $10MM a year, I'd put some real heat behind it.
also its not the best look to look like a bully to a woman who's only trying to do her job.
Southern chivalry?
Agreed, he was a meanie.
10MM puts a lot of pressure on a man. The ordinary dude can't handle that shit. Every once in a while cracks appear.
Okay, slap him up I guess. :=)
Meanie?
He acted like a guy who never had a mike in front of him and IMO was defensive about a question any reporter would ask? What were your impressions of the QBs, coach?
I can understand his wanting to protect his kids, and avoid a QB controversy, but he should be ready for scrutiny in his chosen very public arena.
He could have set a better example for his students than he did by doing a bad Belichick stonewall.
Finger-wagging done.
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Looks like the Hokies came into town expecting to play some football.
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If Coach Saban really thought it through he may come to the realization that the interest built by the press over-reacting to college football over the years pays him $10MM a year to teach football compared to a tiny fraction of that earned by some of his other tenured colleagues at the University of Alabama.
And I overreact here for the fun ot it, but for $10MM a year, I'd put some real heat behind it.
also its not the best look to look like a bully to a woman who's only trying to do her job.
Southern chivalry?
Agreed, he was a meanie.
10MM puts a lot of pressure on a man. The ordinary dude can't handle that shit. Every once in a while cracks appear.
Okay, slap him up I guess. :=)
Meanie?
He acted like a guy who never had a mike in front of him and IMO was defensive about a question any reporter would ask? What were your impressions of the QBs, coach?
I can understand his wanting to protect his kids, and avoid a QB controversy, but he should be ready for scrutiny in his chosen very public arena.
He could have set a better example for his students than he did by doing a bad Belichick stonewall.
Finger-wagging done.
:-)
I like the Belichick thing.
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Cutach*k sucks, and the worst is Pop, where you are only expected to give 1-2 lines, not a press conference, but a line going to the locker room at the half or whenever: “What do you think about x...”...wait for it “We need to do better x...” and jogs off, fucking hilarious, how arch!!
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Cutach*k sucks, and the worst is Pop, where you are only expected to give 1-2 lines, not a press conference, but a line going to the locker room at the half or whenever: “What do you think about x...”...wait for it “We need to do better x...” and jogs off, fucking hilarious, how arch!!
Popovich is all schtick. Everybody knows it and nobody has a bad word to say about him.
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Because the NFL has exclusive rights to misogynyguy??
Disgusting
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I’m not really trying to further the dialogue, which makes me as guilty as the next guy, I’m throwing Molotov cocktails into the jacuzzi of you’re imagination, I can’t help you with the conclusion of whether they blew up or not...that is none of my business.
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Who's the bigger scumbag..Saban or Meyer
Chuck Muncie.
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Are the Hokies that good of has Taggart got some real work yet to do with that Nole offense?
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After reading Edwards' latest maybe they should put a breathalyzer on his Twitter account entrance.
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And again, Saban was right, he's not going to disrespect one of those kids without talking with him and the team first. 'I get that', the press doesn't. And that is the way a real coach would and should handle the situation.
This is not about him not telling her who the starting QB was going to be. If he had stopped after his first sentence or two things would have been fine. "I like both kids. I think they can both help us. Next Question?" that would have been no problem at all...
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I tend to agree it may be a calculated thing for Saban. It's not like he doesn't know the question will be asked. He's had plenty of time to think of a proper response. Part of why he gets paid all that money is for his ability to manage public and alumni relations.
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Herman says his team was overeager and falling over themselves.
I've watched the replay. His defense looks a little slow, especially the LBs and safeties.
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Ladies and Gentlemen...
IT’S TIME TO PLAY...
...WHO’S!!
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ASSHOLE!!!???
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I vote for me.
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Ladies and Gentlemen...
Occassionally
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I vote for me.
Sorry Cap—You’re not allowed to be so self-serving when promoting yourself as Chief Asshole. No voting for yourself in this category….you’ll have to get your lawyer friend to vote for you. Think this will this be a problem for you?
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1 chud
2 potus drumphus
3 trashsabin
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Who...is...the...@sshole??? Wtf???
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Jokes, sorry fellas.
I’m out.
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I vote for me.
Sorry Cap—You’re not allowed to be so self-serving when promoting yourself as Chief Asshole. No voting for yourself in this category….you’ll have to get your lawyer friend to vote for you. Think this will this be a problem for you?
He and Skippy would probably vote for someone else just out of spite.
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1 chud
2 potus drumphus
3 trashsabin
Put me in as fourth, we'll have a playoff, I'll bring home the trophy for the glory of the Forum.
We need a fight song. STFU needs to be in the lyrics somewhere.
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Jokes, sorry fellas.
I’m out.
You can't be out. We were going to make you team mascot.
WTF?
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I'm back as "@" or "Aster" the cheerful t-shirt shooting hand to the ear I can't hear you mascot of "THE ASSHOLE STATE UNIVERSITY."
tASU
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Would you tailgate with a few beers and a tossed salad?
Sorry.
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I've often had beer and tossed cookies.
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Don't whine Willie, you got whupped.
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Loser of the Week:
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TA&M
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He and Skippy would probably vote for someone else just out of spite.
Well, I stand solidly behind you (so to speak)—except on Sept. 29th. If Greatest Asshole in the Forum is your goal I say go for it. It will be hard to edge out Hammy, but I believe you can do it. Goooooooooooooooo, Cargo.
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He and Skippy would probably vote for someone else just out of spite.
Well, I stand solidly behind you (so to speak)—except on Sept. 29th. If Greatest Asshole in the Forum is your goal I say go for it. It will be hard to edge out Hammy, but I believe you can do it. Goooooooooooooooo, Cargo.
I am humbled by your confidence in me D man.
Speaking of Sept 29th I was watching one of the College football programs on ESPN. The one with the poser from Michigan. He and one of the other experts were of the opinion that the best division in college football was the Big 10 East. Over, course the SEC West.
Looking at Massey's power rankings I see Bama #1, Auburn #8, and LSU #10
For The Ten I see OSU#4, Penn St, 7, Michigan 19.
I'm not so sure about mighty Penn Sate seeing as how they struggled mightily against App St. Michigan at #19 seems a rather large discrepency to me. I would have to say advantage SEC.
The two MSUs are close with the Tigers at 18 and Spartans 20. Advantage none.
Then we would matchup Ole Miss at 36 with Indiana at #45. Advantage SEC.
#38 Texas A&M would then matchup with Maryland at #55. Advantage SEC.
Arkansas at 67 matches with I believe Rutgers sucking hind tit at #81. Advantage SEC.
Now after the Maryland win over Texas one could argue tht they were better than #55.Especially since Massey has the Shorthorns at #29.
If we supplant the Horns with Maryland we get a different picture.
With that we have,
Maryland #29 vs Ole Miss #36. Advantage B10
Texas A&M 38 vs Indiana 45. Advantage SEC.
Arkansas 67 vs Rutgers 81, Advantage SEC.
This second overall picture is still slanted towards the SEC, but the margins are much smaller.
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For The Ten I see OSU#4, Penn St, 7, Michigan 19.
Initially I was surprised by the Lion Cubs poor performance against the A. Hillbillies…..I thought “Oh good….maybe for once going to Happy Valley might not be like pulling teeth….” But then I remembered some of tOSU’s early season performances against heavy underdogs (creampuffs) in the past and I tempered my enthusiasm for the early unexpected demise of PSU. Now, I fully expect them to be their usual pain in the behinds by the 29th. They better be ready though—this QB for OSU appears to be the real deal, and paired with two experienced running backs the OSU offense is going to be very tough to handle.
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CLEM -12 at TAMU seems like a lot but I know they looked like shit last week.
Interested to see how Sparty responds after struggle vs. Utah State, who seemed better than advertised. 10:30-45 start EST is LATE vs. Herman’s Hermits of ASU.
Haven’t looked at Saturday slate.
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I am not enamored with our defense at all D-man. It would take a major difference in the next game to even begin to change my opinion on them.
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CLEM -12 at TAMU seems like a lot but I know they looked like shit last week.
Interested to see how Sparty responds after struggle vs. Utah State, who seemed better than advertised. 10:30-45 start EST is LATE vs. Herman’s Hermits of ASU.
Haven’t looked at Saturday slate.
The Aggies will give the Tigers a game I think JB but eke out a win.
I think the Spartans get a scare but edge the Sun Devils too.
But I wouldn't be at all majorly shocked to see both favored teams upset.
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I think the Sparty line is 6, and weird time, I like Bryan and Etienne running and taking air out. If we score 24 we win, I don’t know how they it up more than 17, we could sh!thammer them if we get up a little and air it out to Tee et. al., no love lost between us and Jimbo Baggins.
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The Sparties seemed to have a bit of trouble pass blocking. IMO Az St has the potential to cause some trouble for them in that respect.
A&M is starting Mond which seems to indicate Jimbo is planning on running the ball. IMO they are going to need big plays to beat the Tigers as with that defense sustaining long drives will be difficult to say the least. I've heard that the Aggies have been practicing lining up in the I with the QB under center like Jimbo did at Fla St so I assume he may be running some pro sets. Mond has a good arm however so some big plays could materialize through the air. But I'm skeptical.
Pitt only has a few more games against us so I expect them to be playing their asses off even more than usual. This will be Narduzzi's most experienced defense so far. It should be a great game to watch.
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The Duke/N'Wstrn game should be interesting with the Wildcats looking to avenge that pounding they took last year. Should be a close game Thorson looked rusty last week. Duke has a decent defense and a pretty good QB.
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I think Thorson was a freshman when my son was. My son is now 37.
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We are not a very physical team on defense, this will not bode well for us later on in the season. I am impressed by a couple of the Pitt DBs. Especially the kid.
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Gutless booth officiating in the Clem/A&M game. .
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I like any call which turns Jimbo Fisher into a lunatic.
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He was animated wasn't he.
Still, gutless call.
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Trojans need to make some blocks.
Or have their QB do it himself, despite the OL play.
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I like any call which turns Jimbo Fisher into a lunatic.
Jimbo said it best after the game. “ It was a tough call. It’s part of the game”
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The reality is replay(s) had no angle that could overturn the call on the field.
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You were right about earring it out, cap.
Pretty hostile environment.
I thought the ball went over the cone, but we were fortunate with the ruling on the field.
Our vaunted D gave up a lot of yards, but A&M is pretty good.
I feel better with Bryant in the game and not sure there is any logic to the qb substitution pattern,but on the other hand you can’t leave tlaw on sidelines all season.
It’s a “W,” cliched I know, but it’s all you really want at this time of the year on the road in SEC territory.
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You were right about earring it out, cap.
Pretty hostile environment.
I thought the ball went over the cone, but we were fortunate with the ruling on the field.
Our vaunted D gave up a lot of yards, but A&M is pretty good.
I feel better with Bryant in the game and not sure there is any logic to the qb substitution pattern,but on the other hand you can’t leave tlaw on sidelines all season.
It’s a “W,” cliched I know, but it’s all you really want at this time of the year on the road in SEC territory.
It was a fantastic game JB. I'm happy your guys won really bro.
Personally, I thought from where the ball hit the ground there was no way it could go over the pylon. I've always had a 3D brain when it comes to that sort of thing.
Some day some bright physics student is going to develop the math for where the ball left the guy's hands and where it made contact with the ground. If they can do it with baseball pitches they can do it with a football. But just doing the math from point of departure to point of contact should be an easy calc these days. Even if the numbers from departure and contact are crude, but decent estimations, the math should be able to be done. Put some ordinary NASA comps on it and they could come up with it in about ten minutes. Someone call Kennedy now. ;-)
I believe using the precise mathmatical formula you could accurately then plot the flight path of the football.
45 years ago I used to do that sort shit with a slide rule in 10th grade. Totally surprised that with the electronic stuff at our disposal in this age someone hasn't come up with it yet.
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The Duke/N'Wstrn game should be interesting with the Wildcats looking to avenge that pounding they took last year. Should be a close game Thorson looked rusty last week. Duke has a decent defense and a pretty good QB.
Looks like the Blue Demon defense was too much for the son of Thor.
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The Az St/Spartie game was past my bedtime. Watched a little of the first quarter it was clear that this game was going to be a battle.
Apparently the Spartans, once again, couldn't hold the pass.
The Huskers got Buffaloed too I see.
Lastly it was nice to see my team come out in the second half properly motivated. I would have loved to hear what was said in the locker room at halftime. :-)
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The Sun Devils PLAYED TO WIN THE GAME.
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The refs totally screwed us.
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Hard fought game, good spectator game. Both teams can hold their heads up high just like the Clem/A&M game.
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Hard fought game, good spectator game. Both teams can hold their heads up high just like the Clem/A&M game.
Nonetheless, the refs screwed us. I could not be more certain of this if I had actually seen the game. Literally.
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That's the only way anyone can lose to a Herm Edwards-"coached" team.
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Huh?
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It’s a dog whistle.
Herm is black.
He “coached” the winning team to play to win the game.
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Good one! Herm's not much of a coach. I've been using "coach" in quotes for years, likely from before you were born, and its use has been for all sports and its gently sarcastic tone knows no racial boundaries. See my comments on "Coach" Mark Richt, one-time Clemson "mastermind" Rick Barnes and a host of others. I could well be wrong in my assessment of these guys' coaching "ability" but it sure ain't because of race.
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Nonetheless, the refs screwed us. I could not be more certain of this if I had actually seen the game. Literally.
Ditto
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Good one! Herm's not much of a coach. I've been using "coach" in quotes for years, likely from before you were born, and its use has been for all sports and its gently sarcastic tone knows no racial boundaries. See my comments on "Coach" Mark Richt, one-time Clemson "mastermind" Rick Barnes and a host of others. I could well be wrong in my assessment of these guys' coaching "ability" but it sure ain't because of race.
Ok, I’ll come off the racist charge then, but Herm “WON THE GAME.”
I think they had SCOREBOARDS before I was born, so you are familiar of how points are tallied, etc.
Rick Barnes beat Dean Smith in Wilmington, NC, on consecutive dunks. I was there. He can coach. He lived halfway up Michael Dell hill in Austin by selling snake oil. Maybe. But he got there, ‘coach,” you should be an AD somewhere if you are such a good judge of intelligence and competence from the cheap seats, “coach,” how long did you say you’ve been making that joke?
Let me suggest: “Too...”
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Ah. The ol' "if you know so much you should be X" line of attack. Makes posting here, or anywhere, a waste of time I guess. Okay, you win: every coach is good and every AD is wise. Kind of a twist on ESPN3's "every ref is good and every call is right" way of doing things.
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Yep
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Good one! Herm's not much of a coach. I've been using "coach" in quotes for years, likely from before you were born, and its use has been for all sports and its gently sarcastic tone knows no racial boundaries. See my comments on "Coach" Mark Richt, one-time Clemson "mastermind" Rick Barnes and a host of others. I could well be wrong in my assessment of these guys' coaching "ability" but it sure ain't because of race.
Ok, I’ll come off the racist charge then, but Herm “WON THE GAME.”
I think they had SCOREBOARDS before I was born, so you are familiar of how points are tallied, etc.
Rick Barnes beat Dean Smith in Wilmington, NC, on consecutive dunks. I was there. He can coach. He lived halfway up Michael Dell hill in Austin by selling snake oil. Maybe. But he got there, ‘coach,” you should be an AD somewhere if you are such a good judge of intelligence and competence from the cheap seats, “coach,” how long did you say you’ve been making that joke?
Let me suggest: “Too...”
Even though I've never met the dude, I can just about guarantee that there isn't a racist bone in YankGuy's body. He's probably the most fair minded guy in here. Racism just isn't in his makeup.
That being said, I lean more in your direction that Herm Edwards is a good coach. I don't think the guy made a particularly great Pro Football coach, much like Nick Saban. But some guys are better off being in the college coaching ranks. I think the college ranks can better support a variety of coaching styles than the Pro ranks.
As to coaching 'styles' I don't think you could have two more different guys than Edwards and Saban.
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Not necessary, but thanks just the same Cap'n. Kind words always appeciated.
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I withdrew the racism remark once he gave the comment a more broad context.
Coaches also have different skill sets of course, I see Herm as a motivator and leader of men, creating a culture of high expectation from you and of your “brothers.” In a much more subdued way, that’s Dabo’s strength, culture, particularly one that recruits well.
I think that’s critical in football, whereas, say, in basketball, sets, plays, substitutions, clock management, etc., are easier to discern by the average fan, that is, whether a coach is good or bad at it. Most football games are largely won or lost before the teams take the field, conditioning, confidence, skill, preparation.
Didn’t mean to take the token racist honor from Utley, even for one post. He has bad mean streak of regional bigotry as well, sad.
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Liking Rutgers getting 3 at Kansas
and T Tech home to HOU, getting 1.5.
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Thoughts and prayers
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Same here JB.
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I see Herbie is predicting a Vandy upset of ND, I tend to agree that the 14 point spread is high.
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Liking Rutgers getting 3 at Kansas
and T Tech home to HOU, getting 1.5.
I'm liking Rutgers too.
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Was about to post that Troy +10.5 at NEB looks like free $$, but then they cut into CLEM coverage and Troy 10-0 and driving, so just sayin’
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Apparently Willie's team not above faking a cramp either.
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So much for what I think. Jayhawks kicking Rutgers butt.
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Terps go in a little too cocky against the Owls.
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Was about to post that Troy +10.5 at NEB looks like free $$, but then they cut into CLEM coverage and Troy 10-0 and driving, so just sayin’
JB-hope you and the moped are weathering Flo.
stay well
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Liking Rutgers getting 3 at Kansas
and T Tech home to HOU, getting 1.5.
I'm liking Rutgers too.
The Mush.......
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Was about to post that Troy +10.5 at NEB looks like free $$, but then they cut into CLEM coverage and Troy 10-0 and driving, so just sayin’
JB-hope you and the moped are weathering Flo.
stay well
Thanks, but I was actually in one of the South Cack counties that didn’t evac, but otherwise I may or may not have stayed right damn put, shit, most people would be surprised what you can do with some bungee cord and a fifth of vodka, or punched into the orange sunset.
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Starting to sense that Big 10 haters are going to have fun this season
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Have you accepted the Christian horned frog as your...
...I mean, that environment, is like, hostile, man, it’s not a league game, but still...
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Bama is a friggin machine.
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LSU takes out Auburn, Malzahn couldn't get away from Ed fast enough after the one second congrats at midfield. LOL
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FSU Coach may be fired mid-season.
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Pitiful offense.
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Good call.
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Well that wasn't good Scotty.
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How does a team fall 23 points behind to a team that lost to Maryland?
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Coach O, not good looking enough to be Hollywood, never considered, motherfucker of the day, with a crawdad on top, fuck you you Auburn, and your Brie and Chardonnay and fuck your vineyard vine redneck ass born to the manor tar heel mirror pu$$y...
...bye bye dickhead...
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Starting to sense that Big 10 haters are going to have fun this season
What makes you think they don't have fun every season?
But I assume you mean the demise of the offensive juggernaut Wisconsin Badgers or the formerly great Nebraska Cornhuskers.
Maybe it was Northwestern going down to their cupcake or Maryland going down to theirs.
Maybe it was Rutgers going town to Big 12 Kansas in the All-Doormat Bowl.
Purdue is now 0-3.
Look on the Brightside, Michigan won. And Indiana and Minnesota have played three cupcake games in a row each and both have 'managed' to win all of them.
Arizona St lost. :=)
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SanDiego State won a game by targeting a receiver on a Hail Mary pass.
I guess no rule can prevent that.
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Starting to sense that Big 10 haters are going to have fun this season
What makes you think they don't have fun every season?
They were very quiet after last year's bowl season, especially those whose testicles were buried with Silve who used to claim that bowl results defined the season.
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That being said, tbe West is even weaker than usual this year. But on the bright side tOSU won in a hostile place and now has wins over two power five schools OOC, one of which was ranked, tPSU has been i.pressi e, and Maryland is officially 28 points better than Southern Cal.
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Starting to sense that Big 10 haters are going to have fun this season
What makes you think they don't have fun every season?
They were very quiet after last year's bowl season, especially those whose testicles were buried with Silve who used to claim that bowl results defined the season.
Look who's come out of the basement. One good bowl season and you have balls of steel. LOL
I didn't even mention your team's loss to what you used to call the west coast pooftahs. ;=)
And besided he said season, not postseason. I mean it's your word not mine. Tagline, if you can't figure out what I mean and need some help as always.
But then you always were/are a my shit doesn't stink, just other people's, sorta dude weren't you.
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Sorry if the truth hurts you.
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Yes it does hurt to see a one time fine poster sink to the level you have.
Well, at least you're sorry. ;=)
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Kinda matches the stinky 'sorry' shit you post.
Well, I suppose you have to go with the strength you have left these days.
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Once again, I am sorry that you get butt hurt and brainlessly lash out at others when your hypocrisy is pointed out to you.
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No hypocrisy, except for yours. Dichotomous was your latest attempt to be, try to be I should say, clever. Your cleverness got shoved down your whiney mouth. Not my fault, your fault. That and your 'my shit don't stink' mantra hypocrisy.
I suppose being the asshole you insist on being at times, you just can't help opening your big yap and then getting slapped around for it. Again though not my fault. Some day maybe you'll learn to keep quiet, although I doubt it. ;=)
But I suppose I'll forgive your arrogance yet again so no worries bra.
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Week 3 Notes;
Another 3rd string OSU QB now a LSU signal caller ( Jeaux Burrow) hits clutch passes on last minute drive and watches fellow transfer Cole Tracy (Assumption College)boot a 42 yard walk-off field goal to secure a top ten ranking in the AP poll. Ed Ogeron has an offense and his 3rd win against a top ten opponent since taking over at LSU. He is now tied in that department with Nick and Urban.
Florida State secures the number 5 spot in rankings of Florida teams.
Look for Nick, Urban, and Dabo to raid the Sunshine State for even more recruits.
Akron beat Northwestern for its first win against a ( future) Big Ten team (Ohio State) since 1894.
For the day the Big Ten lost seven nonconference games to unranked teams for the first time in the history of the AP Poll (since 1936).
Boston College has scored at least 40 points in an ACC game five times. Four of those five are in BC’s past six conference games.
Might want to mark down November 10 as it could be the key ACC game of the year, Clemson @ BC.
North Texas is 3-0 for the first time since 1989 and beat an SEC team ( Arkansas) for the first time since 1975. The final score in the 44-17 rout was a classic.
https://youtu.be/CLtvtvUj-aU
(https://youtu.be/CLtvtvUj-aU)
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No hypocrisy, except for yours. Dichotomous was your latest attempt to be, try to be I should say, clever. Your cleverness got shoved down your whiney mouth. Not my fault, your fault. That and your 'my shit don't stink' mantra hypocrisy.
I suppose being the asshole you insist on being at times, you just can't help opening your big yap and then getting slapped around for it. Again though not my fault. Some day maybe you'll learn to keep quiet, although I doubt it. ;=)
But I suppose I'll forgive your arrogance yet again so no worries bra.
You seem peeved. Perhaps some warm cocoa. Maybe a cookie.
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I'm still in awe how Austin Peay pissed all over Morehead State
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No hypocrisy, except for yours. Dichotomous was your latest attempt to be, try to be I should say, clever. Your cleverness got shoved down your whiney mouth. Not my fault, your fault. That and your 'my shit don't stink' mantra hypocrisy.
I suppose being the asshole you insist on being at times, you just can't help opening your big yap and then getting slapped around for it. Again though not my fault. Some day maybe you'll learn to keep quiet, although I doubt it. ;=)
But I suppose I'll forgive your arrogance yet again so no worries bra.
You seem peeved. Perhaps some warm cocoa. Maybe a cookie.
Yep.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24700294/lsu-jumps-no-6-rankings-wisconsin-tumbles-top-10 (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24700294/lsu-jumps-no-6-rankings-wisconsin-tumbles-top-10)
LSU has another game manager QB, a retread from OSU. A lot of folks are pointing to that being the turning point for the Tigers. But IMO they are completely overlooking the work of LSU's OL. They are the men responsible for keeping Burrows, more of a game manager than anything else, clean Saturday against a formidable Auburn DL that took Washington's OL apart in week 1. The LSU defense is stout as always.
Some Week 3 team stats.
Alabama leads to nation in Offensive ppg at 56.7
Stanford leads the nation in Defensive ppg at 7.7
The SEC has 10 teams in the Top 25 in Scoring Defense.
Texas Tech leads the nation in YPG at 624
The aforementioned North Texas leads the nation in Interceptions with 9.
Believe it or not Oklahoma State leads the nation in sacks with 16.
Tua Tagovailoa leads the nation in Qbr at 98.3
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https://n.rivals.com/news/three-point-stance-saturday-shine-and-shame-willie-taggart (https://n.rivals.com/news/three-point-stance-saturday-shine-and-shame-willie-taggart)
Ohio State's defense – The defense came up big when it was needed in the win over TCU with two defensive touchdowns. The front four is just a shade less talented than Clemson's but is one of the most dangerous units in the country.
Dwayne Haskins Ohio State – Haskins is a true Heisman candidate who has a great arm and has been taking care of the football very well.
Joe Burrow LSU, His completion percentage isn’t good but this kid is a winner and did just enough to lead his team down for the winning score against Auburn.
Alabama's passing game – The Crimson Tide have become one of the most dangerous offenses in the country and Jerry Jeudy is next in line when it comes to Florida receivers starring in Tuscaloosa.
Clemson's running game – The Tigers can kill you in so many different ways. The opponent wasn’t a good one but the running game was still very impressive and carried the day.
Georgia's efficiency – Jake Frommis completing a ridiculous amount of his passes, the running game is as effective as last year and the Bulldogs honestly look like the same exact team that went to the title game.
Kyler Murray, Oklahoma – He continues to feel comfortable in the offense and the Sooners haven’t missed a beat despite the departure of Baker Mayfield. That is amazing.
BYU's running game – The Cougars gashed a tough Wisconsin defense all game long en route to the upset of the weekend. I haven’t seen many teams push Wisconsin around on offense like BYU did.
Washington – A big win in a tough environment. Myles Gaskin came alive and they did just enough in the passing game and on defense for a hard fought victory.
Syracuse – The Orange had their way with Florida State on offense and defense. The game never seemed to be in question.
Trace McSorley, Penn State – Whether it’s by air or on the ground, he finds a way to win and continues to impress. Yes the competition was awful, but this kid continues to show all the intangibles of a great quarterback.
Taylor Cornelius, Oklahoma State – There was supposed to be a big drop off from Mason Rudolp to Cornelius but there hasn’t been one. He’s been very effective and was the key on offense in a huge win over Boise State.
Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan – Three touchdown catches in a great game. He’s starting to develop that chemistry with Shea Patterson.
Texas – How about those Longhorns? After a loss to Maryland and a squeaker against Tulsa, they come out and dominated USC in so many ways. Could this be a turning point victory?
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Alabama is starting to make people who did not pick them as #1 look very stupid.
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https://n.rivals.com/news/three-point-stance-saturday-shine-and-shame-willie-taggart (https://n.rivals.com/news/three-point-stance-saturday-shine-and-shame-willie-taggart)
Ohio State's defense – The defense came up big when it was needed in the win over TCU with two defensive touchdowns. The front four is just a shade less talented than Clemson's but is one of the most dangerous units in the country.
Dwayne Haskins Ohio State – Haskins is a true Heisman candidate who has a great arm and has been taking care of the football very well.
Joe Burrow LSU, His completion percentage isn’t good but this kid is a winner and did just enough to lead his team down for the winning score against Auburn.
I think we saw why Meyer went with Haskins, and why Barrow was in contention to start.
Alabama's passing game – The Crimson Tide have become one of the most dangerous offenses in the country and Jerry Jeudy is next in line when it comes to Florida receivers starring in Tuscaloosa.
Clemson's running game – The Tigers can kill you in so many different ways. The opponent wasn’t a good one but the running game was still very impressive and carried the day.
Given that defense, and specifically that defensive line, ClemSIN's ability to run the ball might make some of the questions about the QB position irrelevant. Well, that and the South Atlantic League not really having an elite level second team. Jesus, Florida State....
Georgia's efficiency – Jake Frommis completing a ridiculous amount of his passes, the running game is as effective as last year and the Bulldogs honestly look like the same exact team that went to the title game.
Kyler Murray, Oklahoma – He continues to feel comfortable in the offense and the Sooners haven’t missed a beat despite the departure of Baker Mayfield. That is amazing.
ISU had been a thorn in OK's hide. Be interesting to see that OK - TCU game.
BYU's running game – The Cougars gashed a tough Wisconsin defense all game long en route to the upset of the weekend. I haven’t seen many teams push Wisconsin around on offense like BYU did.
They need to go back to the old scheduling rubric at Wisky. Cupcake, cupcake, cupcake. Right now, I am not sure who the class of the West is - maybe still Wisky - but it is looking more and more like the four best teams in the Big 10 are in the East.
Washington – A big win in a tough environment. Myles Gaskin came alive and they did just enough in the passing game and on defense for a hard fought victory.
Syracuse – The Orange had their way with Florida State on offense and defense. The game never seemed to be in question.
Trace McSorley, Penn State – Whether it’s by air or on the ground, he finds a way to win and continues to impress. Yes the competition was awful, but this kid continues to show all the intangibles of a great quarterback.
Taylor Cornelius, Oklahoma State – There was supposed to be a big drop off from Mason Rudolp to Cornelius but there hasn’t been one. He’s been very effective and was the key on offense in a huge win over Boise State.
Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan – Three touchdown catches in a great game. He’s starting to develop that chemistry with Shea Patterson.
Texas – How about those Longhorns? After a loss to Maryland and a squeaker against Tulsa, they come out and dominated USC in so many ways. Could this be a turning point victory?
Maybe USC is not what we thought they were. Did they let Helton on the plane?
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Word on Tua, even an AUB fan has to be all GEE WHIZ.
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LSU has another game manager QB, a retread from OSU.
Guess this ESPN guy never uses a dictionary.
re·tread
verb
rēˈtred
put a new tread on (a worn tire).
noun
ˈrēˌtred
a tire that has been given a new tread.
Last year Burrow was not on the Buckeye depth chart at QB but rose to third by the end of the year. In two seasons he saw mopup action in all of seven games.
In effect LSU got a brand new tire, not a retread. (and OSU graduate)
As for being a game manager check out his 4th quarter heroics at Auburn.
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LSU has another game manager QB, a retread from OSU.
Guess this ESPN guy never uses a dictionary.
re·tread
verb
rēˈtred
put a new tread on (a worn tire).
noun
ˈrēˌtred
a tire that has been given a new tread.
Last year Burrow was not on the Buckeye depth chart at QB but rose to third by the end of the year. In two seasons he saw mopup action in all of seven games.
In effect LSU got a brand new tire, not a retread. (and OSU graduate)
As for being a game manager check out his 4th quarter heroics at Auburn.
Heroics thanks to that OL. Washington couldn't stop those guys but the Auburn DL got mostly stonewalled by the Bayou Bengals big guys up front. Burrows self admittedly said he didn't have a good day but his OL kept him asically clean all game.
As to the retread thing, if it makes you feel good okie dokie Skipster have it your way.
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LSU has another game manager QB, a retread from OSU.
Guess this ESPN guy never uses a dictionary.
re·tread
verb
rēˈtred
put a new tread on (a worn tire).
noun
ˈrēˌtred
a tire that has been given a new tread.
Last year Burrow was not on the Buckeye depth chart at QB but rose to third by the end of the year. In two seasons he saw mopup action in all of seven games.
In effect LSU got a brand new tire, not a retread. (and OSU graduate)
As for being a game manager check out his 4th quarter heroics at Auburn.
As to the retread thing, if it makes you feel good okie dokie Skipster have it your way.
Ask Ogeron, not me.
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It took 15 years, but it looks like Steve's old PAWCP label finally fits.
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LSU has another game manager QB, a retread from OSU.
Guess this ESPN guy never uses a dictionary.
re·tread
verb
rēˈtred
put a new tread on (a worn tire).
noun
ˈrēˌtred
a tire that has been given a new tread.
Last year Burrow was not on the Buckeye depth chart at QB but rose to third by the end of the year. In two seasons he saw mopup action in all of seven games.
In effect LSU got a brand new tire, not a retread. (and OSU graduate)
As for being a game manager check out his 4th quarter heroics at Auburn.
As to the retread thing, if it makes you feel good okie dokie Skipster have it your way.
Ask Ogeron, not me.
Never asked you anything in the first place. Just placating you.
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It took 15 years, but it looks like Steve's old PAWCP label finally fits.
Not entirely.
16-13
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It took 15 years, but it looks like Steve's old PAWCP label finally fits.
Hey, a PAC conference member beat the best team in the country, albeit in their own stadium with what I can only assume was a huge assist from the referees.
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It took 15 years, but it looks like Steve's old PAWCP label finally fits.
The Big Ten West is thankful for Pac12 South.
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It took 15 years, but it looks like Steve's old PAWCP label finally fits.
The Big Ten West is thankful for Pac12 South.
More thankful for the MAC. LOL
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24714743/most-important-college-football-game-top-25-team
(http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24714743/most-important-college-football-game-top-25-team)
No. 3 Clemson: Nov. 10 at Boston College:
No team appears to have an easier path to the playoff than the Tigers, who have just one ranked opponent -- No. 23 Boston College -- remaining on their slate. Don't overlook that BC game, though. A mid-November trip to Chestnut Hill is always a challenge, and just last year, the Eagles took Clemson to the wire -- the game was tied early in the fourth quarter -- in Death Valley. This season's BC team is better than last season's, too, and with A.J. Dillon carrying the ball and chewing up clock, there's a real recipe for an upset. -- David M. Hale
No. 4 Ohio State: Sept. 29 at Penn State: Judging by the rest of the Big Ten East and how the season has played out so far, it looks as though Ohio State's most important game will come when the Buckeyes travel to Happy Valley. Both teams have put up big numbers offensively so far this season, and this game came down to the fourth quarter in 2017, with Ohio State sneaking away with a 39-38 victory. If they get through this one, the Buckeyes should have a good shot at returning to the Big Ten championship game and potentially the College Football Playoff. -- Tom VanHaaren
No. 7 Stanford: Nov. 3 at Washington: The Cardinal appear to be the Pac-12's best bet for the College Football Playoff at this point but face a brutal schedule that still includes three road games against teams that are undefeated. And that doesn't include the one that figures to be the toughest: at No. 10 Washington. Oregon, Cal and Washington State are all undefeated, but the two clear favorites remain the Huskies and Cardinal. The assumption here is the winner of their game in Seattle will go on to win the conference title. -- Kyle Bonagura
No. 24 Michigan State: Oct. 20 vs. Michigan: The most important game could certainly be the one against Penn State, at Happy Valley, which could show us what kind of team Michigan State really is. But the following week, Michigan comes to town. Winning that game and going 3-1 over the past four seasons against Harbaugh, Mark Dantonio could put an emphatic stamp on his time in East Lansing. The Spartans are not out of it, but a Big Ten run seems unlikely, so winning this game would be a big deal this season. Losing it would have as important consequences the other way as well. -- VanHaaren
And:
No. 18 Wisconsin: Saturday at Iowa: There's no time like the present. This game more than any will shape the Big Ten West race. And the Badgers' home loss last week to BYU only heightens the urgency to get back to their brand of physical football. Lose this, and games at Michigan and Penn State won't mean as much. Adding to the attractiveness of the night-game matchup, Iowa has allowed 126 rushing yards -- the fewest nationally among teams to play three games. -- Sherman
Cappy Note: Iowa is 3-0. Win this game and their schedule looks pretty favorable all things considered with only an away game at State College to majorly bar their path to an undefeated game. Since they are in the 'weakish' Big 10 West, this could be another perfect storm season for the Hawkeyes like 2015 until Mich State ruined their parade.
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Will Michigan finish with the Big Ten's best class?
https://n.rivals.com/news/ask-farrell-will-michigan-finish-with-the-big-ten-s-best-class- (https://n.rivals.com/news/ask-farrell-will-michigan-finish-with-the-big-ten-s-best-class-)
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I know of one highly-gifted individual who's already a freshman there.
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https://n.rivals.com/news/three-point-stance-grading-new-coaches-2018-surprises-week-4-picks (https://n.rivals.com/news/three-point-stance-grading-new-coaches-2018-surprises-week-4-picks)
1. Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M – B+ -- This is mainly based on the loss to Clemson as Texas A&M looked good and never went away against one of the best teams in the country. Alabama is looming and that could get ugly, but for now a 2-1 start and a close loss to Clemson has him on top of the list.
My hire grade in December: A+
2. Mario Cristobal, Oregon – B+ -- They haven’t beaten anyone yet but they haven’t lost either and have looked solid for the most part. Stanford is coming up this weekend and could change this grade dramatically, but so far so good at Oregon.
My hire grade in December: B
3. Joe Moorhead, Mississippi State – B+ -- He has his team in the national top 15 and has a good win over Kansas State on the road. Like others, he has some big tests ahead of him especially Auburn and LSU as well as Alabama in November, but so far he’s done very well.
My hire grade in December: B
4. Jeremy Pruitt, Tennessee – B – The blowout loss to West Virginia was ugly but I’m giving him a B here because the team is 2-1 and it is headed in the right direction. I could be proven wrong as they face a tough part of their schedule with Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Alabama and South Carolina in their next five games.
My hire grade in December: B
5. Herm Edwards, Arizona State – B – Losing to San Diego State brought him down from the top of the list, but that win over Michigan State is still impressive and he’s doing better than I thought he would.
My hire grade in December: D
6. Matt Luke, Ole Miss – C – The win against Texas Tech was a solid one, but that Alabama loss is so ugly it knocks him down to this range. It also didn’t help they gave up 41 points to Southern Illinois.
My hire grade in December: C
7. Dan Mullen, Florida – C – The loss to Kentucky was embarrassing enough and historical enough to drop him into the C ranks despite a 2-1 start. He could swap places with Pruitt if the Gators beat Tennessee.
My hire grade in December: A
8. Scott Frost, Nebraska – D – An 0-2 start hasn’t soured the feelings of the fans, but the Troy loss was a tough one to take even this early in his tenure.
My hire grade in December: A+
9. Chad Morris, Arkansas – D – He might be in the F range if I wasn’t such an easy grader because Colorado State is not a great loss and the rout against North Texas was embarrassing, but we’ll see what happens.
My hire grade in December: C+
10. Kevin Sumlin, Arizona – D – Arizona looks awful so far with bad losses to BYU (although that win by BYU over Wisconsin makes it look a little better) and Houston. The real problem is how he’s used Khalil Tate (below).
My hire grade in December: Was hired in January
11. Jonathan Smith, Oregon State – D – A 1-2 start isn’t that great. No one expected a win over Ohio State but wins over Southern Utah and Nevada should be expected, no?
My hire grade in December: C
12. Chip Kelly, UCLA – F – Loss, loss and loss. We knew it would take some time to turn UCLA into what he wanted, but losing to Cincinnati and Fresno State so badly wasn’t part of the plan.
My hire grade in December: A+
13. Willie Taggart, Florida State – F – To me he’s done the worst job despite a win on his resume.
My hire grade in December: B
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Parlay for a Friday
Penn State over 44 points
USC - 4.5
Dodgers - 1.5 runs
Pays 3.8 units to 1
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As a former semi-degenerate gambler, I admire the passion.
Teaser for a teaser, bro.
Break a leg.
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Nervy about BC game, respek, recently had a n acquaintance from Charles town, hilarious in all the lousy ways, nice guy but not going up, I like him a lot, all the best to him, but, he may do time, who knows?
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Yeah, parlay just as hard as teaser, still a sucker bet, sorry, dude.
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But 3-game teaser getting 5,5, still alive.
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Looks like Purdue was the best 0-3 team in the nation coming into today. :=)
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Rutgers on the other hand is just a pathetic excuse for a power five football team. Some might argue Arkansas and they'd have a good case. But Rutgers is just terrible.
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About that Boston College juggernaut........
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Not as concerned anymore at all, particularly the way we are smoking Tech in their joint.
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A&M has had some nice drives today. But FGs ain't TDs.
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Old Dominion making a game of it. Tech had best be careful.
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Hokie Pokie!
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Nice win for Tom Herman.
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Miss St and Kentucky having a defensive battle. The winner gets to be 4-0.
Bama shows a few chinks in their defensive armor. In their running game too.
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So much for the Iowa juggernaut.
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And the Oregon juggernaut.
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Oregon pissed away their win on stupid mistakes.
Kentucky at 4-0 going into the SC game and guaranteed to be ranked when it happens.
The Huskies eke out a tough win against decent Zona St team.
Texas Tech was a bit of a shocker, to me at least. Looking forward to the TT/WVa game.
Michigan has one of the best DCs in the nation.
Will Cuse be ranked or Duke or even both?
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PSU and OSU have each now officially played 4 cupcake games in a row.
Finally time for a real game.
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Alabama and Georgia have each now officially played four cupcake games in a row.
Finally time for a real game.
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Alabama and Georgia have each now officially played four cupcake games in a row.
Finally time for a real game.
Forever trailing in on my coattails as usual. You'll never be more than my apprentice as long as I'm around page.
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Alabama and Georgia have each now officially played four cupcake games in a row.
Finally time for a real game.
Forever trailing in on my coattails as usual. You'll never be more than my apprentice as long as I'm around page.
Once again, you react to having your foolishness pointed out to you by lashing out at me. While I appreciate the compliment inherent in your obsession you need to find a better outlet to work on the self esteem issues that make you attack your betters.
Maybe some cocoa would help.
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No foolishness. Just you once again jumping to conclusions about me bashing the Big 10. Shitting yourself with glee I'm sure, you kneejerked a reaction aimed at the SEC.
I was just talking about the upcoming game of my team. But you have this SEC complex so far up your ass you piss all over yourself trying to hop on anything I say as being Big 10 bashing. You're insecurity is sad and I'm almost embarrassed that I continually bring it out in you.
You continually follow me around trying to be clever. But you're dime store clever at best. A pale imitation of the real thing.
Now I don't mind schooling you, really I don't. And you seem like a bright lad. But I'm getting kinda of tired waiting for the proof.
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No foolishness. Just you once again jumping to conclusions about me bashing the Big 10. Shitting yourself with glee I'm sure, you kneejerked a reaction aimed at the SEC.
I was just talking about the upcoming game of my team. But you have this SEC complex so far up your ass you piss all over yourself trying to hop on anything I say as being Big 10 bashing. You're insecurity is sad and I'm almost embarrassed that I continually bring it out in you.
You continually follow me around trying to be clever. But you're dime store clever at best. A pale imitation of the real thing.
Now I don't mind schooling you, really I don't. And you seem like a bright lad. But I'm getting kinda of tired waiting for the proof.
Follow you around? The only people following you around are parade clowns with shovels and buckets.
All the signs of low self esteem are there - obvious self aggrandizement, claims of victory that exist only in your brain, witless mocking of your betters. And now you have added paranoia. You should get help before it all ends in Aleppo.
You may be beyond the help of cocoa and cookies.
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No foolishness. Just you once again jumping to conclusions about me bashing the Big 10. Shitting yourself with glee I'm sure, you kneejerked a reaction aimed at the SEC.
I was just talking about the upcoming game of my team. But you have this SEC complex so far up your ass you piss all over yourself trying to hop on anything I say as being Big 10 bashing. You're insecurity is sad and I'm almost embarrassed that I continually bring it out in you.
You continually follow me around trying to be clever. But you're dime store clever at best. A pale imitation of the real thing.
Now I don't mind schooling you, really I don't. And you seem like a bright lad. But I'm getting kinda of tired waiting for the proof.
Follow you around? The only people following you around are parade clowns with shovels and buckets.
All the signs of low self esteem are there - obvious self aggrandizement, claims of victory that exist only in your brain, witless mocking of your betters. And now you have added paranoia. You should get help before it all ends in Aleppo.
You may be beyond the help of cocoa and cookies.
Betters? LOL
I've got old shoes in the basement with more brains than you.
I know the truth of it is hard for you to admit. You have a complex about me and the SEC. I wish I could help you with it but you cling to it as a small child clings to his blankie. And your dimestore Psych 101 is classic. Deflect all you like. You're asshurt I know when I slap you around and lash out with your pathetic bruised ego. Stop embarrassing yourself bra.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24771892/lsu-moves-no-5-kentucky-top-25-first-2007 (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24771892/lsu-moves-no-5-kentucky-top-25-first-2007)
As expected Kentucky and Duke break into the Top 25. Cuse gets some love from the Coaches Poll and sits at #28 there. A little lower at #36 in the AP.
And, hey Bo, the Bears get some love from the AP in at #24. Alright. :=)
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No foolishness. Just you once again jumping to conclusions about me bashing the Big 10. Shitting yourself with glee I'm sure, you kneejerked a reaction aimed at the SEC.
I was just talking about the upcoming game of my team. But you have this SEC complex so far up your ass you piss all over yourself trying to hop on anything I say as being Big 10 bashing. You're insecurity is sad and I'm almost embarrassed that I continually bring it out in you.
You continually follow me around trying to be clever. But you're dime store clever at best. A pale imitation of the real thing.
Now I don't mind schooling you, really I don't. And you seem like a bright lad. But I'm getting kinda of tired waiting for the proof.
Follow you around? The only people following you around are parade clowns with shovels and buckets.
All the signs of low self esteem are there - obvious self aggrandizement, claims of victory that exist only in your brain, witless mocking of your betters. And now you have added paranoia. You should get help before it all ends in Aleppo.
You may be beyond the help of cocoa and cookies.
Betters? LOL
I've got old shoes in the basement with more brains than you.
I know the truth of it is hard for you to admit. You have a complex about me and the SEC. I wish I could help you with it but you cling to it as a small child clings to his blankie. And your dimestore Psych 101 is classic. Deflect all you like. You're asshurt I know when I slap you around and lash out with your pathetic bruised ego. Stop embarrassing yourself bra.
More pompous blather that proves your raging inferiority complex. Rather than lash out at the people who you recognize as your superiors you should express yourself someplace where you actually are intellectually superior, and use the experience to bolster your crumbling ego. I recommend Mrs. Dowling's kindergarten class. Let me know if that helps.
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Stop embarrassing yourself bra.
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Tend to your own garden, fool.
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Ironic advice coming from you.
Stop embarrassing yourself bra.
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Ironic advice coming from you.
Stop embarrassing yourself bra.
Tend to your own garden, fool.
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Surprised cap has not posted about what an embarrassing weeks d it was for the South Atlanticeague with its second and third best teams going down to honest to Jesus cupcakes. I mean Purdue has a rising coach and some.talent, but Old.Fucking Dominion? ClemSIN remains one of the two or three best teams in the Country, and I guess the Canes have been raising, but SWINEy's boys look to have to wait to December 29 to prove it. They may only play one ranked team all year, and That's Duke.
Expected move.to go to the rookie QB.
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Surprised cap has not posted about what an embarrassing weeks d it was for the South Atlanticeague with its second and third best teams going down to honest to Jesus cupcakes. I mean Purdue has a rising coach and some.talent, but Old.Fucking Dominion? ClemSIN remains one of the two or three best teams in the Country, and I guess the Canes have been raising, but SWINEy's boys look to have to wait to December 29 to prove it. They may only play one ranked team all year, and That's Duke.
Expected move.to go to the rookie QB.
You can't get away from thinking about me even as you 'try' to post with some sort of meaning. Somehow I've just got to be included. LMAO
You're fixated on me bra. You follow me around like you've got some kind of weird mancrush on me. It's startin to creep me out dude.
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Surprised cap has not posted about what an embarrassing weeks d it was for the South Atlanticeague with its second and third best teams going down to honest to Jesus cupcakes. I mean Purdue has a rising coach and some.talent, but Old.Fucking Dominion? ClemSIN remains one of the two or three best teams in the Country, and I guess the Canes have been raising, but SWINEy's boys look to have to wait to December 29 to prove it. They may only play one ranked team all year, and That's Duke.
Expected move.to go to the rookie QB.
You can't get away from thinking about me even as you 'try' to post with some sort of meaning. Somehow I've just got to be included. LMAO
You're fixated on me bra. You follow me around like you've got some kind of weird mancrush on me. It's startin to creep me out dude.
Paranoia is actually a part of your self esteem issues. "I am important enough for people.to give a shit about me!" You aren't and the don't.
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Surprised cap has not posted about what an embarrassing weeks d it was for the South Atlanticeague with its second and third best teams going down to honest to Jesus cupcakes. I mean Purdue has a rising coach and some.talent, but Old.Fucking Dominion? ClemSIN remains one of the two or three best teams in the Country, and I guess the Canes have been raising, but SWINEy's boys look to have to wait to December 29 to prove it. They may only play one ranked team all year, and That's Duke.
Expected move.to go to the rookie QB.
You can't get away from thinking about me even as you 'try' to post with some sort of meaning. Somehow I've just got to be included. LMAO
You're fixated on me bra. You follow me around like you've got some kind of weird mancrush on me. It's startin to creep me out dude.
Paranoia is actually a part of your self esteem issues. "I am important enough for people.to give a shit about me!" You aren't and the don't.
Got lots of friends dude, we talk go to dinner and drinks. Hang out, play cards, go fishin, barbeque, ice skate, go to races, you name it, and all the other shit friends do. I've got lots of people that 'give a shit' about me.
I need you like I need a poopy flavored lollypop. Which ironically fits you to a tee. My self esteem is just fine dipshit. The plain fact is that you're obsessed with me bra. You have to hop in there and 'set me straight'. Maybe it's because you've never been able to get the upper hand with me and that, I'mafuckinglawyerImustalwaysberightandnobodycouldeverbesmarterthanmehowdareyoueventry bullshit aura you sport constanty gets the best of you. It eats you up Mr Perfect.
I'd like to say I'm sorry about that but in reality I really don't care that it does dude. And all of your insults and protestations mean jack shit to me and are easily slapped away. So go fuck yourself and the arrogant horse you rode in on. :=)
Now as is your want and ego driven need I'll give you the last word, as I always do. Mostly because it's the only thing that will get you too finally STFU. And you'll take it too. You have to, it's in your make up. LOL
Who has a self esteem problem? ;=)
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Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
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Who has a self esteem problem? ;=)
You do.
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Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
Well, he has me there. I live where there is no naturally occurring ice for hundreds of miles. I do get to wear shorts and sandals outside during Christmas, which is some consolation.
I do find the whole "obsessed" hypocrisy hilarious since I realized last week from one of his eruptions that the dichotomous part of his tagline is supposed to be a dig at me - I have no idea why it is supposed to be, though. I guess I used the word once, or something. The whole taunting a poster by sliding a name in an unrelated post is what cap does constantly, usually with "skippy" or me, but now it is a sign of obsession. Go figure.
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Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
NY State JB. It gets fucking cold up here. ;=)
My first set of skates were hockey skates passed down from my brother. My wife loves to skate. She took figure scating lessons at an early age and fell in love with it.
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Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
Well, he has me there. I live where there is no naturally occurring ice for hundreds of miles. I do get to wear shorts and sandals outside during Christmas, which is some consolation.
I do find the whole "obsessed" hypocrisy hilarious since I realized last week from one of his eruptions that the dichotomous part of his tagline is supposed to be a dig at me - I have no idea why it is supposed to be, though. I guess I used the word once, or something. The whole taunting a poster by sliding a name in an unrelated post is what cap does constantly, usually with "skippy" or me, but now it is a sign of obsession. Go figure.
I see with your low self esteem even getting the last word wasn't good enough. You had to have two last words. LMAO :=)
Even when someone else talks to me your obsession with me makes you have to get your whiny ass in there somehow.
Piss off already dipshit.
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I keep meaning to ask jbottle how the hell Hunter Renfrow is still at Clemson. I'm cettain he was there with Steve Fuller.
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I see with your low self esteem....
That is the best you can do? "I'm rubber, you're glue"? No wonder you have such serious self esteem issues. You must have had an awful time growing up, without the wit or intelligence to fashion your own come back. It is like Trump responding to Clinton's accusation, in the third debate, that he was Putin's puppet with "you're the puppet". Faced with confronting the truth, like him, all you .can do is witlessly parrot back the same.cbarge.
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Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
Well, he has me there. I live where there is no naturally occurring ice for hundreds of miles. I do get to wear shorts and sandals outside during Christmas, which is some consolation.
I do find the whole "obsessed" hypocrisy hilarious since I realized last week from one of his eruptions that the dichotomous part of his tagline is supposed to be a dig at me - I have no idea why it is supposed to be, though. I guess I used the word once, or something. The whole taunting a poster by sliding a name in an unrelated post is what cap does constantly, usually with "skippy" or me, but now it is a sign of obsession. Go figure.
Yes that tagline thing has to be what you say it is. More fucking bullshit out of your mouth.
Bankshot had a tagline regarding me and Hammy for years. I'm sure that was because he was obsessed with us. No asswipe, it was because he was pissed at us. I came clean with Rich admitted he was right apologized and we moved on. Since then we've built some mutual respect, disagreed at times but kept it civil.
No dipshit, my tagline is the end result of all of the words Mr Superior, aka You, like to use that a regular guy never uses and most likely doesn't even know the meaning of. If we had the old forum still in place I could go back and find a shitload more of the same crap. You're a pompous ass at times and it's annoying. Thus that tagline.
But this last bit is simply about you're obsessive shit about me and the SEC. I say something negative about any Big 10 team and in rides Don Stevote aiming at SEC windmills. LOL
So you can continue to pissoff as far as I'm concerned until you straighten your ass up. Any grief you get from me will only be a reaction to your own pompous Cap obsessed bullshit.
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ClemSIN ... may only play one ranked team all year, and That's Duke.
When does Kentucky play Duke? ;)
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Well until then Duke and Kentucky are still in it Scotty. Syracuse too. Probably not for long though. :=)
The Eliminator: Who is already out of the playoff race?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24782181/already-playoff-race (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24782181/already-playoff-race)
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Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
Well, he has me there. I live where there is no naturally occurring ice for hundreds of miles. I do get to wear shorts and sandals outside during Christmas, which is some consolation.
I do find the whole "obsessed" hypocrisy hilarious since I realized last week from one of his eruptions that the dichotomous part of his tagline is supposed to be a dig at me - I have no idea why it is supposed to be, though. I guess I used the word once, or something. The whole taunting a poster by sliding a name in an unrelated post is what cap does constantly, usually with "skippy" or me, but now it is a sign of obsession. Go figure.
Yes that tagline thing has to be what you say it is. More fucking bullshit out of your mouth.
Bankshot had a tagline regarding me and Hammy for years. I'm sure that was because he was obsessed with us. No asswipe, it was because he was pissed at us. I came clean with Rich admitted he was right apologized and we moved on. Since then we've built some mutual respect, disagreed at times but kept it civil.
No dipshit, my tagline is the end result of all of the words Mr Superior, aka You, like to use that a regular guy never uses and most likely doesn't even know the meaning of. If we had the old forum still in place I could go back and find a shitload more of the same crap. You're a pompous ass at times and it's annoying. Thus that tagline.
But this last bit is simply about you're obsessive shit about me and the SEC. I say something negative about any Big 10 team and in rides Don Stevote aiming at SEC windmills. LOL
So you can continue to pissoff as far as I'm concerned until you straighten your ass up. Any grief you get from me will only be a reaction to your own pompous Cap obsessed bullshit.
I was wondering what triggered your poor self esteem to cause you to lash out so. My intellectual heft? My educational attainments? My ability to make coherent arguments? Turns put, it is because I use big words. I am sorry. I will try to limit myself to two syllables, three max, unless necessary there is no other good choice.
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Actually I enjoy slapping you around intellectually. It eats you up that is easy to see. I gotta tell you I laugh my ass off every time. I should have absolutely no ass at all you've amused me a couple of hundred times by now.(I crack myself up) Your obsessiveness has cause you to unconsciously brainfart shit yourself with your, "I'm not obsessed you are!" post.
And then you are dumb enough to accuse me of parroting back. Man you are full of stupid shit this time. You're slipping Mr Perfect.
Every time your mind refuses to accept delivery of the fact you've(once again)gotten your ass kicked. No way, not Mr Perfect. I'm a Supergenius. I don't know if I should call you Mr. Perfect or Wile E. Stevote.
But really you more remind me of that robot Nomad on the old Star Trek. "You made a mistake Stevemad, you haven't corrected your mistake by admitting it. That's two mistakes" LOL
Go sterilize yourself twit.
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Actually I enjoy slapping you around intellectually. It eats you up that is easy to see. I gotta tell you I laugh my ass off every time. I should have absolutely no ass at all you've amused me a couple of hundred times by now.(I crack myself up) Your obsessiveness has cause you to unconsciously brainfart shit yourself with your, "I'm not obsessed you are!" post.
And then you are dumb enough to accuse me of parroting back. Man you are full of stupid shit this time. You're slipping Mr Perfect.
Every time your mind refuses to accept delivery of the fact you've(once again)gotten your ass kicked. No way, not Mr Perfect. I'm a Supergenius. I don't know if I should call you Mr. Perfect or Wile E. Stevote.
But really you more remind me of that robot Nomad on the old Star Trek. "You made a mistake Stevemad, you haven't corrected your mistake by admitting it. That's two mistakes" LOL
Go sterilize yourself twit.
Your sputtering anger is one the sad symptoms of your low self esteem, along with your being intimidated into irrationality by big words. Seek help.
Also, the only thing you slap around, intellectually or otherwise, is about 4 otherwise idle inches of yourself.
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Laughter not anger dipshit.
I never said I didn't understand your pompous look at me I'm smart vocabulary. It just makes you look like a self-important annoying wipe.
Quit while you're way behind twit.
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Laughter not anger dipshit.
Quit while you're way behind twit.
So now you are projecting. Interesting
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The only thing I project is that you'll keep yammering.
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I project yammering.
FIFY
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Jeez, you aren't gonna start cryin are you?
No wait, I suppose you would have to stop crying first to start again.
I can do this all season asshole. Before I'd always give you the last word but not this time.
ESAD.
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Kelly Bryant waves goodbye to Clemson using only one finger.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24801672/demoted-clemson-tigers-qb-kelly-bryant-says-transfer
(http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24801672/demoted-clemson-tigers-qb-kelly-bryant-says-transfer)
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That seems to be the mode these days. If I can't play I'm leaving. Makes it all the more surprising that Hurts is still in Alabama.
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Jeez, you aren't gonna start cryin are you?
No wait, I suppose you would have to stop crying first to start again.
I can do this all season asshole. Before I'd always give you the last word but not this time.
ESAD.
You have never, ever, given anyone the last word. Because your fragile ego confuses stubbornness and being impervious - sorry for making you look up a word - to facts with "winning". Never mind that the very concept of "winning" an internet argumemt is an idiotic concept, and one you claim no matter how misbegotten your argument, but it gives you that little jolt of faux (it means fake) self esteem.
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Jeez, you aren't gonna start cryin are you?
No wait, I suppose you would have to stop crying first to start again.
I can do this all season asshole. Before I'd always give you the last word but not this time.
ESAD.
You have never, ever, given anyone the last word. Because your fragile ego confuses stubbornness and being impervious - sorry for making you look up a word - to facts with "winning". Never mind that the very concept of "winning" an internet argumemt is an idiotic concept, and one you claim no matter how misbegotten your argument, but it gives you that little jolt of faux (it means fake) self esteem.
I've never had to look up any of your pompous words. You got jack shit on me genius. And leave it to someone that always loses the argument to bleat that winning is meaningless and stupid. If it wasn't important to you why do you yell and scream like a little baby every time you lose?
Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel. One that sucks more thn usual. At least what you write makes good toilet paper. No wait, strike that, it's already shitty.
ESAD.
All MF'ing day long pal.
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Some games that look like they will be close hard to predict matchups.
First the Notre Dame/Stanford game is shaping up as an interesting matchup.
The Irish have a new QB and he doesn't look half bad. The ND line may have some problem with the Cardinal defense though. Perfect time for the Irish to get their best RB back. I think if Kelly's kids don't make the silly mistakes that the Ducks did they can squeak this game out.
Kentucky gets to prove they belong in the Top 25 against the Cocks. I think they do it too. Most people point to the Wildcat running game but I've been keeping an eye on them and this squad can bring some defense too. I'm taking the Cats.
Florida/Miss St: I'm starting to see this Gator offense starting to take look like a Mullen offense. He doesn't quite have the perfect guy to run his offense but I see Franks starting to get it. The Gator defense is gelling too from what I've seen. Too many exceptional athletes on that side of the ball for them to not shine. I'm going with Mullen in his return to Bulldogland.
Later I'll touch on a couple of other good games to watch.
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Jeez, you aren't gonna start cryin are you?
No wait, I suppose you would have to stop crying first to start again.
I can do this all season asshole. Before I'd always give you the last word but not this time.
ESAD.
You have never, ever, given anyone the last word. Because your fragile ego confuses stubbornness and being impervious - sorry for making you look up a word - to facts with "winning". Never mind that the very concept of "winning" an internet argumemt is an idiotic concept, and one you claim no matter how misbegotten your argument, but it gives you that little jolt of faux (it means fake) self esteem.
I've never had to look up any of your pompous words. You got jack shit on me genius. And leave it to someone that always loses the argument to bleat that winning is meaningless and stupid. If it wasn't important to you why do you yell and scream like a little baby every time you lose?
Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel. One that sucks more thn usual. At least what you write makes good toilet paper. No wait, strike that, it's already shitty.
ESAD.
All MF'ing day long pal.
Once again, that desperate attempt at self validation to boost your fragile ego. Pretty pathetic. Try to wrap your tiny little mind around the idea that you never, ever reconsidering an argument when presented by facts is not the same thing as winning. Not that I have any hopes you will do so, no more than I have any hope you will make scatology a spice to your points rather than the main one.
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Keep cryin.
ESAD
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Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel.
Well, as long as discussion of football seems to have ended we can go to one of my pet peeves…..You want to use the word you’re in this instance Cap, contraction for you are. Not your….meaning something that is of the person or belongs to the person you are speaking of.
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Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel.
Well, as long as discussion of football seems to have ended we can go to one of my pet peeves…..You want to use the word you’re in this instance Cap, contraction for you are. Not your….meaning something that is of the person or belongs to the person you are speaking of.
I think that extra e makes.the word too long for cap to deal with. Not to mention the apostrophe
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Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel.
Well, as long as discussion of football seems to have ended we can go to one of my pet peeves…..You want to use the word you’re in this instance Cap, contraction for you are. Not your….meaning something that is of the person or belongs to the person you are speaking of.
I think that extra e makes.the word too long for cap to deal with. Not to mention the apostrophe
Stop cryin.
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Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel.
Well, as long as discussion of football seems to have ended we can go to one of my pet peeves…..You want to use the word you’re in this instance Cap, contraction for you are. Not your….meaning something that is of the person or belongs to the person you are speaking of.
I think that extra e makes.the word too long for cap to deal with. Not to mention the apostrophe
Stop pointing out my inadequacies.
FIFY.
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Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel.
Well, as long as discussion of football seems to have ended we can go to one of my pet peeves…..You want to use the word you’re in this instance Cap, contraction for you are. Not your….meaning something that is of the person or belongs to the person you are speaking of.
I wouldn't have taken you for one of the punctuation police. But, sorry Driver dude really.
As to football discussion I've tried to steer the conversation back to football discussion several times now. But Stevo insists on getting his shots in. Maybe someone else can get him to stop knashing his teeth and barking.
Maybe it is time for you and me to start talking smack about our upcoming contest. ;=)
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Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel.
Well, as long as discussion of football seems to have ended we can go to one of my pet peeves…..You want to use the word you’re in this instance Cap, contraction for you are. Not your….meaning something that is of the person or belongs to the person you are speaking of.
I think that extra e makes.the word too long for cap to deal with. Not to mention the apostrophe
Stop pointing out my inadequacies.
FIFY.
See what I mean Driver. The guy is a whiney vindictive bitch.
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I think one of the key matchups is going to be QB play Driver. My boy is a pretty good QB, but the OSU lad has been putting up Heisman numbers. Bosa being out will hurt.
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Your a fucking joke. I read you like a dime store novel.
Well, as long as discussion of football seems to have ended we can go to one of my pet peeves…..You want to use the word you’re in this instance Cap, contraction for you are. Not your….meaning something that is of the person or belongs to the person you are speaking of.
I think that extra e makes.the word too long for cap to deal with. Not to mention the apostrophe
Stop pointing out my inadequacies.
FIFY.
See what I mean Driver. The guy is a whiney vindictive bitch.
Projecting again, i see.
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What a little bitch you are. I bet you were a little bitch all your life right. Your ball or you'll go home type.
Sorry Driver, I guess we'll talk football when the little bitch says we can.
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What a little bitch you are. I bet you were a little bitch all your life right. Your ball or you'll go home type.
Sorry Driver, I guess we'll talk football when the little bitch says we can.
Projecting again, I see.
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Yes little bitch. Whatever you say little bitch.
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For those keeping count, that's 13 posts by cap since he let me have the last word.
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Also, the only thing you slap around, intellectually or otherwise, is about 4 otherwise idle inches of yourself.
Whoa...I've gotten used to the name calling and all that...but that's a low blow to call another man's penis small.
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That seems to be the mode these days. If I can't play I'm leaving. Makes it all the more surprising that Hurts is still in Alabama.
Makes it all the more impressive. Jalen Hurts gets kudos in my book. I would hire him.
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For those keeping count, that's 13 posts by cap since he let me have the last word.
For those keeping track I told the little bitch he couldn't have the last word this time.
But then he likes to create his own narrative.
But yes little bitch, whatever you say little bitch.
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Also, the only thing you slap around, intellectually or otherwise, is about 4 otherwise idle inches of yourself.
Whoa...I've gotten used to the name calling and all that...but that's a low blow to call another man's penis small.
LOL
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That seems to be the mode these days. If I can't play I'm leaving. Makes it all the more surprising that Hurts is still in Alabama.
Makes it all the more impressive. Jalen Hurts gets kudos in my book. I would hire him.
A fine young man that one. With the all the new transfer rules it's hard to keep up. I don't know how many games he's appeared in so far but I think they've extended the limit for that.
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Surprised cap has not posted about what an embarrassing weeks d it was for the South Atlanticeague with its second and third best teams going down to honest to Jesus cupcakes. I mean Purdue has a rising coach and some.talent, but Old.Fucking Dominion? ClemSIN remains one of the two or three best teams in the Country, and I guess the Canes have been raising, but SWINEy's boys look to have to wait to December 29 to prove it. They may only play one ranked team all year, and That's Duke.
Expected move.to go to the rookie QB.
You can't get away from thinking about me even as you 'try' to post with some sort of meaning. Somehow I've just got to be included. LMAO
You're fixated on me bra. You follow me around like you've got some kind of weird mancrush on me. It's startin to creep me out dude.
Paranoia is actually a part of your self esteem issues. "I am important enough for people.to give a shit about me!" You aren't and the don't.
Got lots of friends dude, we talk go to dinner and drinks. Hang out, play cards, go fishin, barbeque, ice skate, go to races, you name it, and all the other shit friends do. I've got lots of people that 'give a shit' about me.
I need you like I need a poopy flavored lollypop. Which ironically fits you to a tee. My self esteem is just fine dipshit. The plain fact is that you're obsessed with me bra. You have to hop in there and 'set me straight'. Maybe it's because you've never been able to get the upper hand with me and that, I'mafuckinglawyerImustalwaysberightandnobodycouldeverbesmarterthanmehowdareyoueventry bullshit aura you sport constanty gets the best of you. It eats you up Mr Perfect.
I'd like to say I'm sorry about that but in reality I really don't care that it does dude. And all of your insults and protestations mean jack shit to me and are easily slapped away. So go fuck yourself and the arrogant horse you rode in on. :=)
Now as is your want and ego driven need I'll give you the last word, as I always do. Mostly because it's the only thing that will get you too finally STFU. And you'll take it too. You have to, it's in your make up. LOL
Who has a self esteem problem? ;=)
cap the liar. Actually, two lies because cap not only does not always give the last word, he never does. He SAYS he does, but if you take him up on it, he always responds. Always. Because his need to perceive himself as "winning" discussions.
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So Scotty, what do you think your teams biggest problems are. I'm still going with my take in preseason. The DL isn't what it should be. I think you were of a mind that the OL was going to be the main problem. Still feel that way?
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Also, the only thing you slap around, intellectually or otherwise, is about 4 otherwise idle inches of yourself.
Whoa...I've gotten used to the name calling and all that...but that's a low blow to call another man's penis small.
Maybe i meant diameter....
But upon review, you are correct. It.was poor judgement on my part to post that. I apologize for the statement, cap.
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That seems to be the mode these days. If I can't play I'm leaving. Makes it all the more surprising that Hurts is still in Alabama.
Makes it all the more impressive. Jalen Hurts gets kudos in my book. I would hire him.
Hard to go from the accolades when taking over his freshman year and leading Bama to the playoffs twice to go to a.secondary role. Class. Wonder if has a Braxton Miller future.
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No little bitch this is how it unfolded. First you couldn't just have one last word you had to have two. First with your last parting shot at me, and then another snide salvo in your next post to JB. Which, rightfully, since you broke the pact, prompted this from me. You were the one that kept it going by your parting jab and then a cheap shot rabbit punch.
Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
Well, he has me there. I live where there is no naturally occurring ice for hundreds of miles. I do get to wear shorts and sandals outside during Christmas, which is some consolation.
I do find the whole "obsessed" hypocrisy hilarious since I realized last week from one of his eruptions that the dichotomous part of his tagline is supposed to be a dig at me - I have no idea why it is supposed to be, though. I guess I used the word once, or something. The whole taunting a poster by sliding a name in an unrelated post is what cap does constantly, usually with "skippy" or me, but now it is a sign of obsession. Go figure.
I see with your low self esteem even getting the last word wasn't good enough. You had to have two last words. LMAO :=)
Even when someone else talks to me your obsession with me makes you have to get your whiny ass in there somehow.
Piss off already dipshit.
Then later I posted this:
Jeez, you aren't gonna start cryin are you?
No wait, I suppose you would have to stop crying first to start again.
I can do this all season asshole. Before I'd always give you the last word but not this time.
So as the forum can see you are full of shit once again. What a devious misleading little coward you are.
Little Bitch.
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That seems to be the mode these days. If I can't play I'm leaving. Makes it all the more surprising that Hurts is still in Alabama.
Makes it all the more impressive. Jalen Hurts gets kudos in my book. I would hire him.
Hurts will likely transfer after the season(as a graduate of Alabama.)
The difference between him and Bryant is Hurts knew from game one he would play in every game for Alabama this year in a secondary role. Nick Saban took heat from a tone deaf media but that’s what has played out. Of course Hurts can stil red shirt tomorrow and double his eligibility to 2 years or he can play the secondary role in case of injury to Tagovailoa. If he transfers next year think Arizona State and the tutelege of Herm Edwards for an NFL career.
At Clemson Kelly Bryant has had most of the snaps so far in four Tiger wins. Now he finds out he is number two.
BuhBye.
Saban played his hand better than Dabo.
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As you say Hurts can still redshirt. And he may because only he knows how happy he is in his mop up role.
But he's been a good teammate and hasn't complained an awful lot and I give him kudos for that.
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So who is Bosa's backup?
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A fine young man that one. With the all the new transfer rules it's hard to keep up. I don't know how many games he's appeared in so far but I think they've extended the limit for that.
I believe he has also appeared in four games. But I think he made it clear he was not planning on transferring.
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So Scotty, what do you think your teams biggest problems are. I'm still going with my take in preseason. The DL isn't what it should be. I think you were of a mind that the OL was going to be the main problem. Still feel that way?
OL still looks awful...but I'm starting to lean towards coaching being the biggest problem. Every unit looks good one week and awful the next. Certainly S&C has been a problem for a number of years. DL has underperformed though - you are right about that. Lots of kids in the secondary but they are not doing too poorly.
I think we're about to turn the corner...but then I do have those glasses on still...
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]Hard to go from the accolades when taking over his freshman year and leading Bama to the playoffs twice to go to a.secondary role.
Team player vs Prima Donna. Like I said...I would hire him.
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Hurts will likely transfer after the season(as a graduate of Alabama.)
The difference between him and Bryant is Hurts knew from game one he would play in every game for Alabama this year in a secondary role. Nick Saban took heat from a tone deaf media but that’s what has played out. Of course Hurts can stil red shirt tomorrow and double his eligibility to 2 years or he can play the secondary role in case of injury to Tagovailoa. If he transfers next year think Arizona State and the tutelege of Herm Edwards for an NFL career.
At Clemson Kelly Bryant has had most of the snaps so far in four Tiger wins. Now he finds out he is number two.
BuhBye.
Saban played his hand better than Dabo.
You mean after Game One? I'm not sure what the difference is in the situation between the two other than a few games played. Both QBs found out they were being outplayed by a team mate.
The difference is in the response and it seems to indicate the difference in character between the two. Hurts sucked it up and is there to support his team. Bryant is Butt Hurt and embarrassed and is acting like a spoiled brat -- leaving his teammates in a lurch. Who do they have as a back up now?
If Hurts wants to leave next year...more power to him. No one will begrudge him.
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So Scotty, what do you think your teams biggest problems are. I'm still going with my take in preseason. The DL isn't what it should be. I think you were of a mind that the OL was going to be the main problem. Still feel that way?
OL still looks awful...but I'm starting to lean towards coaching being the biggest problem. Every unit looks good one week and awful the next. Certainly S&C has been a problem for a number of years. DL has underperformed though - you are right about that. Lots of kids in the secondary but they are not doing too poorly.
I think we're about to turn the corner...but then I do have those glasses on still...
Often DL push and Secondary play go hand in hand. So all things considered how do you rate the way your new QB has played?
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Hurts will likely transfer after the season(as a graduate of Alabama.)
The difference between him and Bryant is Hurts knew from game one he would play in every game for Alabama this year in a secondary role. Nick Saban took heat from a tone deaf media but that’s what has played out. Of course Hurts can stil red shirt tomorrow and double his eligibility to 2 years or he can play the secondary role in case of injury to Tagovailoa. If he transfers next year think Arizona State and the tutelege of Herm Edwards for an NFL career.
At Clemson Kelly Bryant has had most of the snaps so far in four Tiger wins. Now he finds out he is number two.
BuhBye.
Saban played his hand better than Dabo.
You mean after Game One? I'm not sure what the difference is in the situation between the two other than a few games played. Both QBs found out they were being outplayed by a team mate.
The difference is in the response and it seems to indicate the difference in character between the two. Hurts sucked it up and is there to support his team. Bryant is Butt Hurt and embarrassed and is acting like a spoiled brat -- leaving his teammates in a lurch. Who do they have as a back up now?
If Hurts wants to leave next year...more power to him. No one will begrudge him.
Clemson had another highly rated QB but I think he also transferred, I think when he realized he was going to be third string. I forget his name.
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Did a quick check it was Hunter Johnson. Looks like he is going to YG's Northwestern. No doubt to replace the long tenured Thorson.
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My Northwestern is playing my Michigan this weekend.
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Looks like you are destined for victory bro.
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Of course looking at it from the flipside....
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Hurts will likely transfer after the season(as a graduate of Alabama.)
The difference between him and Bryant is Hurts knew from game one he would play in every game for Alabama this year in a secondary role. Nick Saban took heat from a tone deaf media but that’s what has played out. Of course Hurts can stil red shirt tomorrow and double his eligibility to 2 years or he can play the secondary role in case of injury to Tagovailoa. If he transfers next year think Arizona State and the tutelege of Herm Edwards for an NFL career.
At Clemson Kelly Bryant has had most of the snaps so far in four Tiger wins. Now he finds out he is number two.
BuhBye.
Saban played his hand better than Dabo.
You mean after Game One?
No. Summer practice and thereafter.
The difference is in the response and it seems to indicate the difference in character between the two. Hurts sucked it up and is there to support his team. Bryant is Butt Hurt and embarrassed and is acting like a spoiled brat -- leaving his teammates in a lurch.
That’s on Dabo whereas Saban has two solid starters.
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No. Summer practice and thereafter.
That’s on Dabo whereas Saban has two solid starters.
You are too young to be going senile so that must mean you have taken up recreational crack smoking.
Trevor Lawrence is a true freshman. He did not come in last year during the championship to bail out the other guy. So why would Dabo have been saying all summer that he wasn't sure who the starter would be?
If you are suggesting that Dabo should have started Kelly Bryant next week so he was "stuck" then I am really disappointed in your definition of character.
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So all things considered how do you rate the way your new QB has played?
I thought it was a mistake to make him the game 1 starter. It was a bigger mistake not to run the damn ball more and put even more pressure on the poor kid.
But I think he is going to be special. Maybe not Trevor Lawrence special...but pretty darn good.
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No. Summer practice and thereafter.
That’s on Dabo whereas Saban has two solid starters.
You are too young to be going senile so that must mean you have taken up recreational crack smoking.
Trevor Lawrence is a true freshman. He did not come in last year during the championship to bail out the other guy. So why would Dabo have been saying all summer that he wasn't sure who the starter would be?
If you are suggesting that Dabo should have started Kelly Bryant next week so he was "stuck" then I am really disappointed in your definition of character.
I made no point beyond the obvious. Saban has two solid quarterbacks, Dabo has one.
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I wouldn't have taken you for one of the punctuation police. But, sorry Driver dude really.
Well, normally I’m not. I do like the proper use of words like to (to, too, two)—or your vs. you’re. For some reason, improper use of these words just seems to catch my eye. I just figure if were going to have slagging matches we could at least keep them on a high level. You know—kind of dress it up when demeaning and tearing down your opponent. Particularly when things start slipping into the ugly zone (as they have seemed to with your lawyer pal).
I think one of the key matchups is going to be QB play Driver. My boy is a pretty good QB, but the OSU lad has been putting up Heisman numbers. Bosa being out will hurt.
PSU will put some points on the board. OSU defense has not really come together as a unit (yet)—but they do have a lot of very good athletes on that side of the ball. By seasons end they might be very scary (particularly if Bosa returns). They need to apply constant pressure on Penn State's QB.
I think you are correct about QB play. I have long maintained that the most important person on a college football team is an experienced QB (a certain talent level doesn’t hurt either). Experienced QB’s don’t make the kind of mistakes that give the other team a short field….or kill drives with offense-killing mistakes.
The question for you is going to be on defense. If they give Haskens time to throw he will pick them apart and score a lot of points.
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Wish Kelly the best, he took his team to the playoff, so not just ego bruise but with the new rule I respect his decision, no problem.
It’s the new normal when you recruit talent.
It makes us much worse as an offense from a risk management perspective, but that’s a Dabo problem, not on KB.
With the rule, if you have 2 Alpha all-everything with an out, this is dictated by logic not loyalty, I’m not happy, but what else is a kid gonna do, fuck loyalty, seize the day, fuck it, strap it on...
Go tigers, let’s just play ball...
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As far as mismanagement by Daboswines, that’s what any sh!t sportswriter or douchebag troll would assert, what do you write about otherwise?
Sounds like an Onion headline: “Disloyal QB changes schools, in effort to be starter, using logic, and survival instincts, fans dismayed...”
Ok, not clever, but you get the thrust.
You don’t want the thrust. But sometimes you get it, go back to Rome you latent homosexuals.
Anyway, good talk.
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LOL
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Wish Kelly the best, he took his team to the playoff, so not just ego bruise but with the new rule I respect his decision,
I missed the part about this being his last year of eligibility vs Hurts having this one plus one more. Makes it more understandable. He probably legitimately thought he was going to the NFL and being benched in his senior year was a crushing blow. I see both sides then.
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No little bitch this is how it unfolded. First you couldn't just have one last word you had to have two. First with your last parting shot at me, and then another snide salvo in your next post to JB. Which, rightfully, since you broke the pact, prompted this from me. You were the one that kept it going by your parting jab and then a cheap shot rabbit punch.
Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
Well, he has me there. I live where there is no naturally occurring ice for hundreds of miles. I do get to wear shorts and sandals outside during Christmas, which is some consolation.
I do find the whole "obsessed" hypocrisy hilarious since I realized last week from one of his eruptions that the dichotomous part of his tagline is supposed to be a dig at me - I have no idea why it is supposed to be, though. I guess I used the word once, or something. The whole taunting a poster by sliding a name in an unrelated post is what cap does constantly, usually with "skippy" or me, but now it is a sign of obsession. Go figure.
I see with your low self esteem even getting the last word wasn't good enough. You had to have two last words. LMAO :=)
Even when someone else talks to me your obsession with me makes you have to get your whiny ass in there somehow.
Piss off already dipshit.
Then later I posted this:
Jeez, you aren't gonna start cryin are you?
No wait, I suppose you would have to stop crying first to start again.
I can do this all season asshole. Before I'd always give you the last word but not this time.
So as the forum can see you are full of shit once again. What a devious misleading little coward you are.
Little Bitch.
You always have some excuse for not giving anyone the last word. Always. That is who you are. One of your many unattractive posting traits, along with condescending - sorry if you have to look that up - comments and lame bullying personal insults, and of course declaring yourself a winner in your own mind. It is a pattern of.conduct that shows only your desperate need for validation of your worth, even if the only validation you get is self.validation.
The only person here who ever declares themselves the winner in an argument is you. While I suspect you have convinced your self that no one else is ever right, you might want to consider allternate possibilities.
Any words you need help with, let me know.
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So who is Bosa's backup?
My understanding is Jonathan Cooper is getting the starts. He has been a rotational player. Also highly rated coming out of HS. Not that it.actually needs to be.said.
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I wouldn't have taken you for one of the punctuation police. But, sorry Driver dude really.
Well, normally I’m not. I do like the proper use of words like to (to, too, two)—or your vs. you’re. For some reason, improper use of these words just seems to catch my eye.
I call my little.tics like that my Wire Hanger Issues. It is a Mommie Dearest reference. just figure if were going to have slagging matches we could at least keep them on a high level. You know—kind of dress it up when demeaning and tearing down your opponent. Particularly when things start slipping into the ugly zone (as they have seemed to with your lawyer pal).
I think one of the key matchups is going to be QB play Driver. My boy is a pretty good QB, but the OSU lad has been putting up Heisman numbers. Bosa being out will hurt.
PSU will put some points on the board. OSU defense has not really come together as a unit (yet)—but they do have a lot of very good athletes on that side of the ball. By seasons end they might be very scary (particularly if Bosa returns). They need to apply constant pressure on Penn State's QB.
I think you are correct about QB play. I have long maintained that the most important person on a college football team is an experienced QB (a certain talent level doesn’t hurt either). Experienced QB’s don’t make the kind of mistakes that give the other team a short field….or kill drives with offense-killing mistakes.
The question for you is going to be on defense. If they give Haskens time to throw he will pick them apart and score a lot of points.
Not to down play experience, but give me talent. I suspect Meyer agrees, which explains LSU's starting QB.
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No little bitch this is how it unfolded. First you couldn't just have one last word you had to have two. First with your last parting shot at me, and then another snide salvo in your next post to JB. Which, rightfully, since you broke the pact, prompted this from me. You were the one that kept it going by your parting jab and then a cheap shot rabbit punch.
Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
Well, he has me there. I live where there is no naturally occurring ice for hundreds of miles. I do get to wear shorts and sandals outside during Christmas, which is some consolation.
I do find the whole "obsessed" hypocrisy hilarious since I realized last week from one of his eruptions that the dichotomous part of his tagline is supposed to be a dig at me - I have no idea why it is supposed to be, though. I guess I used the word once, or something. The whole taunting a poster by sliding a name in an unrelated post is what cap does constantly, usually with "skippy" or me, but now it is a sign of obsession. Go figure.
I see with your low self esteem even getting the last word wasn't good enough. You had to have two last words. LMAO :=)
Even when someone else talks to me your obsession with me makes you have to get your whiny ass in there somehow.
Piss off already dipshit.
Then later I posted this:
Jeez, you aren't gonna start cryin are you?
No wait, I suppose you would have to stop crying first to start again.
I can do this all season asshole. Before I'd always give you the last word but not this time.
So as the forum can see you are full of shit once again. What a devious misleading little coward you are.
Little Bitch.
You always have some excuse for not giving anyone the last word. Always. That is who you are. One of your many unattractive posting traits, along with condescending - sorry if you have to look that up - comments and lame bullying personal insults, and of course declaring yourself a winner in your own mind. It is a pattern of.conduct that shows only your desperate need for validation of your worth, even if the only validation you get is self.validation.
The only person here who ever declares themselves the winner in an argument is you. While I suspect you have convinced your self that no one else is ever right, you might want to consider allternate possibilities.
Any words you need help with, let me know.
I was ready to let it drop. I had hoped you'd show some stones and admit your error or just remain silent when confronted with the clear proof. Everyone could see it.
As to the rest it's your same tired rhetoric. You want to keep it going, it's up to you I've got plenty of gas in the tank.
Up to you.
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So who is Bosa's backup?
My understanding is Jonathan Cooper is getting the starts. He has been a rotational player. Also highly rated coming out of HS. Not that it.actually needs to be.said.
I thought maybe they'd put Young on Bosa's side.
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No little bitch this is how it unfolded. First you couldn't just have one last word you had to have two. First with your last parting shot at me, and then another snide salvo in your next post to JB. Which, rightfully, since you broke the pact, prompted this from me. You were the one that kept it going by your parting jab and then a cheap shot rabbit punch.
Wait, “go ice skating,” wow.
Well, he has me there. I live where there is no naturally occurring ice for hundreds of miles. I do get to wear shorts and sandals outside during Christmas, which is some consolation.
I do find the whole "obsessed" hypocrisy hilarious since I realized last week from one of his eruptions that the dichotomous part of his tagline is supposed to be a dig at me - I have no idea why it is supposed to be, though. I guess I used the word once, or something. The whole taunting a poster by sliding a name in an unrelated post is what cap does constantly, usually with "skippy" or me, but now it is a sign of obsession. Go figure.
I see with your low self esteem even getting the last word wasn't good enough. You had to have two last words. LMAO :=)
Even when someone else talks to me your obsession with me makes you have to get your whiny ass in there somehow.
Piss off already dipshit.
Then later I posted this:
Jeez, you aren't gonna start cryin are you?
No wait, I suppose you would have to stop crying first to start again.
I can do this all season asshole. Before I'd always give you the last word but not this time.
So as the forum can see you are full of shit once again. What a devious misleading little coward you are.
Little Bitch.
You always have some excuse for not giving anyone the last word. Always. That is who you are. One of your many unattractive posting traits, along with condescending - sorry if you have to look that up - comments and lame bullying personal insults, and of course declaring yourself a winner in your own mind. It is a pattern of.conduct that shows only your desperate need for validation of your worth, even if the only validation you get is self.validation.
The only person here who ever declares themselves the winner in an argument is you. While I suspect you have convinced your self that no one else is ever right, you might want to consider allternate possibilities.
Any words you need help with, let me know.
I was ready to let it drop. I had hoped you'd show some stones and admit your error or just remain silent when confronted with the clear proof. Everyone could see it.
As to the rest it's your same tired rhetoric. You want to keep it going, it's up to you I've got plenty of gas in the tank.
Up to you.
You are never ready to let anything drop. Except on your own terms, which involves you getting the last shot.
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Not to down play experience, but give me talent. I suspect Meyer agrees, which explains LSU's starting QB.
I can certainly see how you might argue for talent. You can’t teach natural ability. But even the most talented can screw that up with poor decision making. It’s like watching a freshman play as compared to a seasoned senior. A really good team can still win with an average QB who doesn’t make critical in-game mistakes, but even the most talented can lose you a game due to mental mistakes.
P.S.—The LSU QB might be a perfect example. Nobody thought that he was the best college QB that they have ever seen. And nobody would trade him for the current OSU QB. But he won that Auburn game with steady (if unspectacular) play—by not making mistakes and turning the ball over and making just enough positive plays to win.
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The thing we are not talking about is the OSU running game which really is the wild card here I think.
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The thing we are not talking about is the OSU running game which really is the wild card here I think.
‘Wild card’ is an excellent term for it. They have two experienced running backs with an improved O line. If they use the pass to open up the running game they should do well. They can’t allow PSU to fill up the ‘box’ with eight people to stop the running game and then to blitz the QB if he drops to pass.
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The thing we are not talking about is the OSU running game which really is the wild card here I think.
‘Wild card’ is an excellent term for it. They have two experienced running backs with an improved O line. If they use the pass to open up the running game they should do well. They can’t allow PSU to fill up the ‘box’ with eight people to stop the running game and then to blitz the QB if he drops to pass.
That's pretty much what I was driving at. No pun intended.
Also PSU's defense IMO has had a problem with missed or broken tackles at the LOS this year.
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Chip Kelly era at UCLA is starting well....
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Well, UCLA fans did predict Chip Kelly would produce a memorable team.
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Looks like Hurts won't be redshirting.
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West Virginia explodes in the first quarter.
Cuse feelin their oats against the Tigers once again.
Slow start for the Sparties but a couple of scores on the board in the 2nd qtr.
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Has Kelly Bryant left South Carolina yet.?
Dabo Swinney is calling and holding on line 3.
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A little trickeration on the Sparties.
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Look out Navy, Army is pretty darned good this year.
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Storm the field for beating Syracuse? Act like you've been there before?
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Close one JB.
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Storm the field for beating Syracuse? Act like you've been there before?
They always storm the field in a conference squeaker, it’s fun, they’re in college, and a 3rd stringer took them 90 yds. to win when we muffed a punt on our 5 for a TD.
Heart of a Champion, like Dabo said.
Yeah, I was hoping KB would come out of the phone booth, but our frosh is decent enough, in retrospect, KB earned starter, and what’s the diff if they swap out every 2 series, for a guy who sat behind DWatt for 2 yrs.
“We’ll take it...”
#4 tOSU going FULL C.H.U.D., scooby alert, rub-roh ...
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Have you seen the internet?
That’s all these kids have ever seen, there is no “before.”
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Sandusky in the Hizz
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Pittany Nion State
McSoreholey, helluva player.
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After two time-outs that's the fourth down call Penn State comes up with?
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Ohio State Juggernaut moves on
Penn State juggernaut is paused.
What a great game in an unbelievable environment.
College Football at its most exciting.
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Love the screen calls.
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Congrats to my bro Driver. Tough game to lose, both teams played a good game. The season ain't over so I'll take the loss and get ready for next week. :=)
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Storm the field for beating Syracuse? Act like you've been there before?
They always storm the field in a conference squeaker, it’s fun, they’re in college, and a 3rd stringer took them 90 yds. to win when we muffed a punt on our 5 for a TD.
Heart of a Champion, like Dabo said.
Yeah, I was hoping KB would come out of the phone booth, but our frosh is decent enough, in retrospect, KB earned starter, and what’s the diff if they swap out every 2 series, for a guy who sat behind DWatt for 2 yrs.
“We’ll take it...”
#4 tOSU going FULL C.H.U.D., scooby alert, rub-roh ...
Good game and congrats JB. In tight games like that both teams can hold their heads up. And I agree, these are college kids we're talking about. We were all young once, maybe some folks have forgotten those days and that youthful zest for life. I find it youthfully refreshing. Maybe that's one of the reasons I love college football so much. Much more than Pro ball.
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After two time-outs that's the fourth down call Penn State comes up with?
I was stunned. I know it was an RPO, but scrambling from the 5 step drop had been, by far PSU's best play all night. My step son, a huge tOSU fan, kept yelling, "Hit him! Hit him! So someone please HIT HIM!" at the screen all night. I do not know why they expected 6 yards on a play that had not worked that well all night. It is probably a memory trick, but it seemed like that play was negative yards more often than positive. tOSU's d line lived up to its hype. I have not seen that much deep penetration since I stopped watching porn. But their pass rush was not maintaining lanes, and no one was successfully spying on McSorelly all night. That was the play.
Great game. tOSU has so many great, fast skill players. And not Big Whatever fast,.fast fast.
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Storm the field for beating Syracuse? Act like you've been there before?
They always storm the field in a conference squeaker, it’s fun, they’re in college, and a 3rd stringer took them 90 yds. to win when we muffed a punt on our 5 for a TD.
Heart of a Champion, like Dabo said.
Yeah, I was hoping KB would come out of the phone booth, but our frosh is decent enough, in retrospect, KB earned starter, and what’s the diff if they swap out every 2 series, for a guy who sat behind DWatt for 2 yrs.
“We’ll take it...”
#4 tOSU going FULL C.H.U.D., scooby alert, rub-roh ...
Good game and congrats JB. In tight games like that both teams can hold their heads up. And I agree, these are college kids we're talking about. We were all young once, maybe some folks have forgotten those days and that youthful zest for life. I find it youthfully refreshing. Maybe that's one of the reasons I love college football so much. Much more than Pro ball.
Well, some people have that passive aggressive third party shit down pat.
We beat Syracuse my freshman year. Did.we.storm the field? Fuck No! We went out to Michigan and Grand and hit the bars hard! Maybe turn over a car or two. Saved the storm the field for important things like the last home loss of the year for a 2 - 9 team. Or beating Meatchicken or Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie at home, which we didn't because we didn't. Not squeaking by a team you should have stomped. It's a thin line between youthful zest for life and being a hooligan.
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Alabama held to 7 points in the second half? Oh wait.... nevermind :-) Was I wrong or did I see one of the fifth string no scholarship type guys on the field for the Tide yesterday?
OSU looked like a champion in their game yesterday coming from 12 points down is no easy thing in that atmosphere.
Kentucky, not just for breakfast anymore. This team has a serious running game. Tough bunch, reminds me of Michigan State's OL of several years back. But also they've got a very underrated defense IMO.
Florida gets another W. And with Kentucky continuing to show some strength that loss to them is looking better and better. I expect them to crack the Top 25 this week. Mullen is an excellent coach and his enthusiasm is contagious.
LSU and retread Burrows plays another good game, but really Ole Miss is pathetic on defense.
Georgia keeps on chewing up opponents. One more cupcake game against Vandy and then they get into the meat of their season.
Clemson another gut check game like the Buckeyes. Those are the games you have to win if you're going to go to the Football Four.
Syracuse, not a bad team at all. As long as their QB doesn't get knocked out like last year they should go bowling what with the weakfish schedule they have left. With only ND and the Wolfpack currently undefeated.
Speaking of Notre Dame, Book impressed me yesterday, kids got a good head on his shoulders. Dexter came back at the right time too. A very good weapon for Kelly if he can stay healthy. One other name Jerry Tillery, how'd LSU let this kid get away?
UCF, I know it was only Pitt(and Pitt sucks)but this team keeps on winning. I just wish they would have scheduled one tough power Five team.
Michigan, I have serious doubts about Harbaugh and his OC's ability to get some offense out of this bunch when they are facing a defense with a pulse. Not that they don't have talent but their play calling sucks.(Kinda like that last play we tried sucked) But Michigan seems to do that sort of thing for most of the game. Luckily he has possibly the best DC in the nation working for him.
Auburn, absolutely pathetic effort yesterday. I'd be on these guys hard for it if I were running the show down there.
Washington, how did these guys lose to Auburn and/or how did BYU beat Wisconsin. Oh well, that's why the saying 'on any given day' was invented I guess. But when any QB is in the zone and hot like Browning was they're tough to beat.
Texas and Herman hold on for dear life and scratch out another win. But the Bane of Maryland still hangs low in the marshes of Longhorn Land.
Cal, sorry Bo the Duck were too much for them Too bad Oregon pissed away a victory over the overrated Cardinal.
Michigan State, like Bama they played a cupcake. This time a MAC(Not a Big Mac) But they ate the Chippewas like they were a Big Mac with no special sauce. A couple of weeks from now there'll be a full meal on the table. Should be a great game.
And lastly, Beloved Stony Brook roared back in the second half to nip the Richmond Spiders. Joe Carbone threw 3 TD passes(Two in the 2nd half) and a 2 point conversion pass to cap off the victory. I just wish we could kick a friggin extra point.
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After two time-outs that's the fourth down call Penn State comes up with?
I was stunned. I know it was an RPO, but scrambling from the 5 step drop had been, by far PSU's best play all night. My step son, a huge tOSU fan, kept yelling, "Hit him! Hit him! So someone please HIT HIM!" at the screen all night. I do not know why they expected 6 yards on a play that had not worked that well all night. It is probably a memory trick, but it seemed like that play was negative yards more often than positive. tOSU's d line lived up to its hype. I have not seen that much deep penetration since I stopped watching porn. But their pass rush was not maintaining lanes, and no one was successfully spying on McSorelly all night. That was the play.
Great game. tOSU has so many great, fast skill players. And not Big Whatever fast,.fast fast.
What’s in a name?
The OSU linebacker replacing injured Nick Bosa who made the game-sealing tackle is CHASE Young.
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Alabama held to 7 points in the second half? Oh wait.... nevermind :-) Was I wrong or did I see one of the fifth string no scholarship type guys on the field for the Tide yesterday?
OSU looked like a champion in their game yesterday coming from 12 points down is no easy thing in that atmosphere.
Kentucky, not just for breakfast anymore. This team has a serious running game. Tough bunch, reminds me of Michigan State's OL of several years back. But also they've got a very underrated defense IMO.
Florida gets another W. And with Kentucky continuing to show some strength that loss to them is looking better and better. I expect them to crack the Top 25 this week. Mullen is an excellent coach and his enthusiasm is contagious.
LSU and retread Burrows plays another good game, but really Ole Miss is pathetic on defense.
Georgia keeps on chewing up opponents. One more cupcake game against Vandy and then they get into the meat of their season.
Clemson another gut check game like the Buckeyes. Those are the games you have to win if you're going to go to the Football Four.
Syracuse, not a bad team at all. As long as their QB doesn't get knocked out like last year they should go bowling what with the weakfish schedule they have left. With only ND and the Wolfpack currently undefeated.
Speaking of Notre Dame, Book impressed me yesterday, kids got a good head on his shoulders. Dexter came back at the right time too. A very good weapon for Kelly if he can stay healthy. One other name Jerry Tillery, how'd LSU let this kid get away?
UCF, I know it was only Pitt(and Pitt sucks)but this team keeps on winning. I just wish they would have scheduled one tough power Five team.
Michigan, I have serious doubts about Harbaugh and his OC's ability to get some offense out of this bunch when they are facing a defense with a pulse. Not that they don't have talent but their play calling sucks.(Kinda like that last play we tried sucked) But Michigan seems to do that sort of thing for most of the game. Luckily he has possibly the best DC in the nation working for him.
Auburn, absolutely pathetic effort yesterday. I'd be on these guys hard for it if I were running the show down there.
Washington, how did these guys lose to Auburn and/or how did BYU beat Wisconsin. Oh well, that's why the saying 'on any given day' was invented I guess. But when any QB is in the zone and hot like Browning was they're tough to beat.
Texas and Herman hold on for dear life and scratch out another win. But the Bane of Maryland still hangs low in the marshes of Longhorn Land.
Cal, sorry Bo the Duck were too much for them Too bad Oregon pissed away a victory over the overrated Cardinal.
Michigan State, like Bama they played a cupcake. This time a MAC(Not a Big Mac) But they ate the Chippewas like they were a Big Mac with no special sauce. A couple of weeks from now there'll be a full meal on the table. Should be a great game.
And lastly, Beloved Stony Brook roared back in the second half to nip the Richmond Spiders. Joe Carbone threw 3 TD passes(Two in the 2nd half) and a 2 point conversion pass to cap off the victory. I just wish we could kick a friggin extra point.
For what it is worth, that particular cupcake has eaten us three times since 1990. They are the only directional Michigan school to beat either MSU or Meatchicken. Ever.
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After two time-outs that's the fourth down call Penn State comes up with?
I was stunned. I know it was an RPO, but scrambling from the 5 step drop had been, by far PSU's best play all night. My step son, a huge tOSU fan, kept yelling, "Hit him! Hit him! So someone please HIT HIM!" at the screen all night. I do not know why they expected 6 yards on a play that had not worked that well all night. It is probably a memory trick, but it seemed like that play was negative yards more often than positive. tOSU's d line lived up to its hype. I have not seen that much deep penetration since I stopped watching porn. But their pass rush was not maintaining lanes, and no one was successfully spying on McSorelly all night. That was the play.
Great game. tOSU has so many great, fast skill players. And not Big Whatever fast,.fast fast.
What’s in a name?
The OSU linebacker replacing injured Nick Bosa who made the game-sealing tackle is CHASE Young.
Needs to watch where he puts his hands on tackles.
For names, give me Tuf Borland. Or Michigan Tech QB Steele Fortress. Whose major is Civil Engineering. Of course it is.
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Storm the field for beating Syracuse? Act like you've been there before?
They always storm the field in a conference squeaker, it’s fun, they’re in college, and a 3rd stringer took them 90 yds. to win when we muffed a punt on our 5 for a TD.
Heart of a Champion, like Dabo said.
Yeah, I was hoping KB would come out of the phone booth, but our frosh is decent enough, in retrospect, KB earned starter, and what’s the diff if they swap out every 2 series, for a guy who sat behind DWatt for 2 yrs.
“We’ll take it...”
#4 tOSU going FULL C.H.U.D., scooby alert, rub-roh ...
Good game and congrats JB. In tight games like that both teams can hold their heads up. And I agree, these are college kids we're talking about. We were all young once, maybe some folks have forgotten those days and that youthful zest for life. I find it youthfully refreshing. Maybe that's one of the reasons I love college football so much. Much more than Pro ball.
Well, some people have that passive aggressive third party shit down pat.
We beat Syracuse my freshman year. Did.we.storm the field? Fuck No! We went out to Michigan and Grand and hit the bars hard! Maybe turn over a car or two. Saved the storm the field for important things like the last home loss of the year for a 2 - 9 team. Or beating Meatchicken or Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie at home, which we didn't because we didn't. Not squeaking by a team you should have stomped. It's a thin line between youthful zest for life and being a hooligan.
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After two time-outs that's the fourth down call Penn State comes up with?
I was stunned. I know it was an RPO, but scrambling from the 5 step drop had been, by far PSU's best play all night. My step son, a huge tOSU fan, kept yelling, "Hit him! Hit him! So someone please HIT HIM!" at the screen all night. I do not know why they expected 6 yards on a play that had not worked that well all night. It is probably a memory trick, but it seemed like that play was negative yards more often than positive. tOSU's d line lived up to its hype. I have not seen that much deep penetration since I stopped watching porn. But their pass rush was not maintaining lanes, and no one was successfully spying on McSorelly all night. That was the play.
Great game. tOSU has so many great, fast skill players. And not Big Whatever fast,.fast fast.
What’s in a name?
The OSU linebacker replacing injured Nick Bosa who made the game-sealing tackle is CHASE Young.
Whodathunkit?
So who is Bosa's backup?
My understanding is Jonathan Cooper is getting the starts. He has been a rotational player. Also highly rated coming out of HS. Not that it.actually needs to be.said.
I thought maybe they'd put Young on Bosa's side.
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Alabama held to 7 points in the second half? Oh wait.... nevermind :-) Was I wrong or did I see one of the fifth string no scholarship type guys on the field for the Tide yesterday?
OSU looked like a champion in their game yesterday coming from 12 points down is no easy thing in that atmosphere.
Kentucky, not just for breakfast anymore. This team has a serious running game. Tough bunch, reminds me of Michigan State's OL of several years back. But also they've got a very underrated defense IMO.
Florida gets another W. And with Kentucky continuing to show some strength that loss to them is looking better and better. I expect them to crack the Top 25 this week. Mullen is an excellent coach and his enthusiasm is contagious.
LSU and retread Burrows plays another good game, but really Ole Miss is pathetic on defense.
Georgia keeps on chewing up opponents. One more cupcake game against Vandy and then they get into the meat of their season.
Clemson another gut check game like the Buckeyes. Those are the games you have to win if you're going to go to the Football Four.
Syracuse, not a bad team at all. As long as their QB doesn't get knocked out like last year they should go bowling what with the weakfish schedule they have left. With only ND and the Wolfpack currently undefeated.
Speaking of Notre Dame, Book impressed me yesterday, kids got a good head on his shoulders. Dexter came back at the right time too. A very good weapon for Kelly if he can stay healthy. One other name Jerry Tillery, how'd LSU let this kid get away?
UCF, I know it was only Pitt(and Pitt sucks)but this team keeps on winning. I just wish they would have scheduled one tough power Five team.
Michigan, I have serious doubts about Harbaugh and his OC's ability to get some offense out of this bunch when they are facing a defense with a pulse. Not that they don't have talent but their play calling sucks.(Kinda like that last play we tried sucked) But Michigan seems to do that sort of thing for most of the game. Luckily he has possibly the best DC in the nation working for him.
Auburn, absolutely pathetic effort yesterday. I'd be on these guys hard for it if I were running the show down there.
Washington, how did these guys lose to Auburn and/or how did BYU beat Wisconsin. Oh well, that's why the saying 'on any given day' was invented I guess. But when any QB is in the zone and hot like Browning was they're tough to beat.
Texas and Herman hold on for dear life and scratch out another win. But the Bane of Maryland still hangs low in the marshes of Longhorn Land.
Cal, sorry Bo the Duck were too much for them Too bad Oregon pissed away a victory over the overrated Cardinal.
Michigan State, like Bama they played a cupcake. This time a MAC(Not a Big Mac) But they ate the Chippewas like they were a Big Mac with no special sauce. A couple of weeks from now there'll be a full meal on the table. Should be a great game.
And lastly, Beloved Stony Brook roared back in the second half to nip the Richmond Spiders. Joe Carbone threw 3 TD passes(Two in the 2nd half) and a 2 point conversion pass to cap off the victory. I just wish we could kick a friggin extra point.
For what it is worth, that particular cupcake has eaten us three times since 1990. They are the only directional Michigan school to beat either MSU or Meatchicken. Ever.
Sometimes a cupcake can be hard to swallow.Yes, that happens.
BTW, I'm rooting for Syracuse getting in a bowl game this year with a Big Ten team. With their remaining schedule they may just sport a good enough record to play the Sparties.Or the Lions. Now that would be a hoot.
And sorry, I shouldn't have butted in on you and JBs conversation. I guess I should have posted to him separately that I had no problem with the storming of the field. It's just that you've been so jervous and nerky lately I just couldn't resist.
Besides if I had sent a separate post you would have taken it the same way anyways right? Right. :-)
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It's a public board. It is really impossible to "butt into" a conversation.
So, other than each other, who beats Alabama or Georgia?
Who beats Ohio State?
Who beats Clemson?
Who beats Oklahoma?
Who beats Notre Dame?
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Sure it's possible to butt into a conversation, public forum notwithstanding As always we disagree.
Regular season including conference playoffs it looks like.
Nobody
Bama
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Of course tht can't be right.
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Sure it's possible to butt into a conversation, public forum notwithstanding As always we disagree.
Regular season including conference playoffs it looks like.
Nobody
Bama
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Of course tht can't be right.
Well, that iz my point. There are 5 Power 5ish teams with an ex ellent chance to go unbeaten. Unlikely they all will, but it would be fun if they all do. ND and ClemSIN have the easiest schedules. Oklahoma is right behind. OSU has the two Michigan schools and I still think Wisky. Obama's schedule is tough, with LSU and Auburn and Veorgia but it is hard.to see anyone beating them, except maybe the Chiefs.
My autocorrect is taunting me.
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Sure it's possible to butt into a conversation, public forum notwithstanding As always we disagree.
Regular season including conference playoffs it looks like.
Nobody
Bama
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Of course tht can't be right.
Well, that iz my point. There are 5 Power 5ish teams with an ex ellent chance to go unbeaten. Unlikely they all will, but it would be fun if they all do. ND and ClemSIN have the easiest schedules. Oklahoma is right behind. OSU has the two Michigan schools and I still think Wisky. Obama's schedule is tough, with LSU and Auburn and Veorgia but it is hard.to see anyone beating them, except maybe the Chiefs.
OSU and the Badgers can only meet in the Big Ten Championship Game.
Should several of the Power Fives lose a game I think the Big Ten might have a shot at 2 teams
( undefeated OSU and one loss Penn State)
The Lions have games left with MSU, Iowa, and Wisconsin at home and @Michigan.
Run that table and PSU is 11-1 with just a one point loss to the Buckeyes.
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Sure it's possible to butt into a conversation, public forum notwithstanding As always we disagree.
Regular season including conference playoffs it looks like.
Nobody
Bama
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Of course tht can't be right.
Well, that iz my point. There are 5 Power 5ish teams with an ex ellent chance to go unbeaten. Unlikely they all will, but it would be fun if they all do. ND and ClemSIN have the easiest schedules. Oklahoma is right behind. OSU has the two Michigan schools and I still think Wisky. Obama's schedule is tough, with LSU and Auburn and Veorgia but it is hard.to see anyone beating them, except maybe the Chiefs.
My autocorrect is taunting me.
I agree that Clemson and ND have the seeming easiest path. Oklahoma probably has to deal with West Virginia who could take them out. Texas and Oklahoma? I don't think Texas has the offense to hang with the Sooners or the defense to slow them down.
Bama and OSU are on paper probably the hardest.
The way the SEC East is starting to shape up Georgia has some tough games ahead too IMO. I'm starting to warm up to Kentucky the more I watch them.
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Sure it's possible to butt into a conversation, public forum notwithstanding As always we disagree.
Regular season including conference playoffs it looks like.
Nobody
Bama
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Of course tht can't be right.
Well, that iz my point. There are 5 Power 5ish teams with an ex ellent chance to go unbeaten. Unlikely they all will, but it would be fun if they all do. ND and ClemSIN have the easiest schedules. Oklahoma is right behind. OSU has the two Michigan schools and I still think Wisky. Obama's schedule is tough, with LSU and Auburn and Veorgia but it is hard.to see anyone beating them, except maybe the Chiefs.
OSU and the Badgers can only meet in the Big Ten Championship Game.
Should several of the Power Fives lose a game I think the Big Ten might have a shot at 2 teams
( undefeated OSU and one loss Penn State)
The Lions have games left with MSU, Iowa, and Wisconsin at home and @Michigan.
Run that table and PSU is 11-1 with just a one point loss to the Buckeyes.
Yes, right about the Badgers but we are including the Conference possible playoff games in this discussion.
As too OSU and PSU both having a 'shot' at this particular juncture I would have to agree.
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One loss PSU, one loss Georgia/Bama are still in the mix, even without a conference championship. Committee has been consistent that they do not generally consider two loss teams equal to one loss teams. I just do .of think we are likely to have two two loss champs, like we had last year. Three, really, putting Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie into the mix.
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As too OSU and PSU both having a 'shot' at this particular juncture I would have to agree.
Cap:
Unbelievable play call by your coach on PSU’s final play. OSU had been trying to get the ball out of McSorley’s hands the entire game and here your own coach does it for them on the most crucial play of the game. If I were playing for or coaching Penn State I would have rather announced to the OSU defense before the play went off that the ball was going to McSorley rather than giving it to anyone else. Franklin took the blame, but I can’t see how he made that particular decision. I thought he was smart.
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As too OSU and PSU both having a 'shot' at this particular juncture I would have to agree.
Cap:
Unbelievable play call by your coach on PSU’s final play. OSU had been trying to get the ball out of McSorley’s hands the entire game and here your own coach does it for them on the most crucial play of the game. If I were playing for or coaching Penn State I would have rather announced to the OSU defense before the play went off that the ball was going to McSorley rather than giving it to anyone else. Franklin took the blame, but I can’t see how he made that particular decision. I thought he was smart.
Not the play I would have called. But I believe he saw a defensive look from the OSU defense. Took a timeout thought the OSU DC would then zig and instead the OSU DC stayed pat. And so he just plain got out thought by the OSU DC. It happens all the time, all the time. I've got zero problem with Franklin or the call and I'm not quite ready yet to burn him in effigy.
And I give a 'little' credit to the guy making the play and the entire OSU defensive front. Helluva effort on the kids part.
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TOSU vs. Penn State game earned an impressive 6.1 overnight TV rating, making it the highest-rated game of the season on any network.
It also ranks among ABC's top five highest-rated September Saturday games on record.
It also received more than double the ratings of the other concurrent top-10 showdown between No. 7 Notre Dame and No. 8 Stanford, topping its score of 2.56.
Ohio State's 27-26 win was the best regular season game on the ESPN family of networks in more than a calendar year, dating back to last season's kickoff weekend.
Ratings peaked at a whopping 8.2 as the Buckeyes completed a come-from-behind fourth quarter victory between 11:15 and 11:30 marking the highest overnight peak in college football this season among all networks.
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Scru tOSU and the bucknut they rode in on, PSU pissed that one away, ridic.
But: Survive and advance they did, go and go likewise gents.
I am here on a mission of mercy, I told Mitch and Murray that they should fire your @ss...
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24849721/ohio-state-buckeyes-no-3-notre-dame-fighting-irish-no-6-latest-poll (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24849721/ohio-state-buckeyes-no-3-notre-dame-fighting-irish-no-6-latest-poll)
Kentucky continues to inch its way up. Bama not a consensus #1
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Every few seasons, going all the way to back to Bear Bryant (see Fran Curci, Jerry Claiborne, Hal Mumme and Rich Brooks) Kentucky puts together a half-way decent season, we get headlines telling us "Kentucky: It's Not Just a Basketball School Anymore" and then they go right on back to being a basketball school. I figure they'll wind up 8-4, likely lose in a bowl game and go right on back to where they've been.
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I think they have a realistically decent shot at 10-2.
Yes I said it. Sometimes a team just has a great year.
As far as going back to obscurity, well you may be right about that.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24849721/ohio-state-buckeyes-no-3-notre-dame-fighting-irish-no-6-latest-poll (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24849721/ohio-state-buckeyes-no-3-notre-dame-fighting-irish-no-6-latest-poll)
Kentucky continues to inch its way up. Bama not a consensus #1
Actually, there is technically a consensus. What there isn't is unanimity.
Two people in that poll are clearly being contrarian for the sake of being argumentative. I hate when people do that.
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One year ago PennState ahead by 3 scores heading into the fourth quarter in Columbus lost the lead and faced a fourth down at midfield to keep alive a field goal try to win the game.
Despite having a stellar runnng back in Sashquon Barkeley the coaches called for a pass. OSU broke it up.
This year after losing a two score lead in the 4th, and facing a 4th down with similar conditions and having a premier passer AND runner in QB McSorley the brain trust called another runners’ number and OSU blew it up.
See Ball
Get Ball
Spielman 101.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24849721/ohio-state-buckeyes-no-3-notre-dame-fighting-irish-no-6-latest-poll (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24849721/ohio-state-buckeyes-no-3-notre-dame-fighting-irish-no-6-latest-poll)
Kentucky continues to inch its way up. Bama not a consensus #1
Actually, there is technically a consensus. What there isn't is unanimity.
Two people in that poll are clearly being contrarian for the sake of being argumentative. I hate when people do that.
Not our style for sure.
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And so he just plain got out thought by the OSU DC.
Well, there is such a thing as over-thinking the situation, as in “OSU thinks we will be giving the ball to McSorley (whom, for the most part, they haven’t stoped all night), so we’ll just fool them and give it to the guy that they have controlled….” As we saw, not exactly a recipe for success. You’re right though, it was a great play by the OSU kid….still, I have to go with McSorley, considering the kind of game he was having. It’s like a pitcher in baseball getting beat on his second best pitch. You got a 100 mile an hour heater you stake the game on that. Everyone knows it’s coming, so beat it if you can. McSorley was killing them all night long, so I take my chances with him, even if they know what’s coming. But, hindsight is always 100%.
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And so he just plain got out thought by the OSU DC.
Well, there is such a thing as over-thinking the situation, as in “OSU thinks we will be giving the ball to McSorley (whom, for the most part, they haven’t stoped all night), so we’ll just fool them and give it to the guy that they have controlled….” As we saw, not exactly a recipe for success. You’re right though, it was a great play by the OSU kid….still, I have to go with McSorley, considering the kind of game he was having. It’s like a pitcher in baseball getting beat on his second best pitch. You got a 100 mile an hour heater you stake the game on that. Everyone knows it’s coming, so beat it if you can. McSorley was killing them all night long, so I take my chances with him, even if they know what’s coming. But, hindsight is always 100%.
I agree that is the guy I wanted to see make a play. But not running. If you watch that last play closely the Buckeyes had McSorley covered too. As the runner was getting stuffed two not one OSU guys were right on him inside and out.
No, the play I had in mind for the yardage needed was a pass play. As I said I don't have a problem with the play called. In any play you still have to execute, you still have to make your blocks. That is where the Lions failed, not in the play call. I just thought a play fake pass play was better suited for what OSU was doing. That might have still failed but I liked our tall wide receiver going up and getting one against the Buckeye corner more than any running play it that particular situation. IMO OSU was not going to let McSorley beat them with his feet by what I saw on that last play.
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IMO OSU was not going to let McSorley beat them with his feet by what I saw on that last play.
Quite so…..but having him surrounded and getting a hold of him are two different things, as he was able to demonstrated throughout the game. Plus, with the ball in his hands he could have chosen the pass option. One of those little slants over the middle might have proven to work pretty well, or throwing off of the scramble if the defense was able to cut off his running options. I say when you have a talent like him in your arsenal you go with it (your best pitch). You don’t go with a second best option, just because you think you might fool the other team, because the way McSorley was playing that night you don’t need to try a different option. Let it all ride on the guy who got you there. But, really, this is all just would have, could have, should have been. OSU won the game and they deserved to. I am sure a lot of the PSU fans thought they had control of the situation through most of the game. Compared to their previous performances OSU did not look to be playing up to par (with kudos to Penn State). But when it came to the last 8 minutes of the game, Ohio dominated and took the game, leaving most PSU fans, I’m sure, with a Whaaaaat? What happened? We lost? How the F*** did that happen? sort of feeling.
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IMO OSU was not going to let McSorley beat them with his feet by what I saw on that last play.
Quite so…..but having him surrounded and getting a hold of him are two different things, as he was able to demonstrated throughout the game. Plus, with the ball in his hands he could have chosen the pass option. One of those little slants over the middle might have proven to work pretty well, or throwing off of the scramble if the defense was able to cut off his running options. I say when you have a talent like him in your arsenal you go with it (your best pitch). You don’t go with a second best option, just because you think you might fool the other team, because the way McSorley was playing that night you don’t need to try a different option. Let it all ride on the guy who got you there. But, really, this is all just would have, could have, should have been. OSU won the game and they deserved to. I am sure a lot of the PSU fans thought they had control of the situation through most of the game. Compared to their previous performances OSU did not look to be playing up to par (with kudos to Penn State). But when it came to the last 8 minutes of the game, Ohio dominated and took the game, leaving most PSU fans, I’m sure, with a Whaaaaat? What happened? We lost? How the F*** did that happen? sort of feeling.
Franklin,as the CFB version of Jose "Useless Pile of Horse Excrement" Mesa. Discuss.
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No.
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Franklin,as the CFB version of Jose "Useless Pile of Horse Excrement" Mesa. Discuss.
Two years in a row his teams blow multiple touchdown leads in the 4th quarter and final fourth down efforts are blown up by the OSU defense with PSU closing in on field goal territory.
I see your point.
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Trivia:
Who was coaching Jan 1 2011 for the Spartans.
No wait that would make that guy a starter that never got out of the first inning I suppose. Anyhoo,(15th ranked in the BCS?)Blowing it comes in all sorts of packages.
Discuss.
Next up Jan 8th 2007. Double edged sword for me on that one though. But what the heck.
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Trivia:
Who was coaching Jan 1 2011 for the Spartans.
No wait that would make that guy a starter that never got out of the first inning I suppose. Anyhoo,(15th ranked in the BCS?)Blowing it comes in all sorts of packages.
Discuss.
Next up Jan 8th 2007. Double edged sword for me on that one though. But what the heck.
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best with a team that by all measures should have won making a bad play call that sealed the loss? Other than using baseball for the analogy I fail to see any connection.
Mesa had a world class fastball and a second rate slider. At a crucial point in the 9th inning of Game 7, Mesa three times shook of Alomar's fastball call to throw his slider, feeling the batter would be sitting fastball. That Charles Johnson could not catch up to his fastball if he was sitting on it from 70' 7" did not enter into his thinking. Instead Mesa became the first person, and one of only two in history (Mariano Rivera, so good company) to blow a.9th inning Game 7 save, on his second best pitch.
Franklin saw a shift in OSU's defense that told him he had five blockers on four linemen, and called a play for that alignment, forgetting, first, OSU's four linemen had been playing in their backfield all game, and second the wise maxim that in crucial situations think players, not plays. He relied on his second best offensive player, and it cost him the chance to win the game. Hence the analogy with Mesa, borrowing driver's idea.
I am unaware of any game MSU played in January of 2007. Basketball?
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Franklin,as the CFB version of Jose "Useless Pile of Horse Excrement" Mesa. Discuss.
I saw a little clip of McSorley at a post game news conference where he refused to throw Franklin under the bus, and I can understand that. As I get it, Franklin is quite popular with his players, and understandably so. Think of the job he had to do to get star players to come to PSU again after the kind of scandal they had there. “Uh, no coach, I think I”ll just take advantage of one of the many other offers I have had from top schools who have not had this kind of hideous scandal occur at their institutions.”
This thing reminded me of one of those Life imitating Art situations…..the movie Hoosiers. The coach (Hackman) calls a time out before the final play and explains to his team that he wants to use their reluctant star (Jimmy) as a decoy and then have someone else take the final shot. The team hems and haws and stare at their sneakers…..Hackman screams at them “What’s wrong?” Whereupon Jimmy speaks up and says “Give me the ball….I’ll make the shot”…..and so, in the movie, he did. That’s how guys like McSorley are…..It isn’t arrogance or ego….They believe in themselves and almost always believe that, all things being equal, they will ‘make the shot’ or the play. And this guy has proven it all the way through high school and at his career at PSU.
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Really, I was probably just trying to take advantage of the opportunity to type "Jose 'Useless Pile of Horse Manure Mesa". It has been a while. Scratching an itch.
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Jose "Useless Pile of Horse Excrement" Mesa. Discuss.
Nobody was calling Jose Mesa a pile of shit the year before, when he was nearly untouchable. I was noticing during that World Series year that he was not quite the same as the year before—that he was no longer cable of appearing night after night and still have the kind of effectiveness that he had before. As I remember that game in Miami, he had pitched the night before the final game, and when it came to the point of game 7 where it was time to bring in a closer, I was screaming at my TV screen “Don’t use Mesa tonight—use Mike Jackson", who was almost a co-closer with Mesa that year. But no…they went with Mesa and the team and Mesa forever paid the price.
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Franklin,as the CFB version of Jose "Useless Pile of Horse Excrement" Mesa. Discuss.
I saw a little clip of McSorley at a post game news conference where he refused to throw Franklin under the bus, and I can understand that. As I get it, Franklin is quite popular with his players, and understandably so. Think of the job he had to do to get star players to come to PSU again after the kind of scandal they had there. “Uh, no coach, I think I”ll just take advantage of one of the many other offers I have had from top schools who have not had this kind of hideous scandal occur at their institutions.”
This thing reminded me of one of those Life imitating Art situations…..the movie Hoosiers. The coach (Hackman) calls a time out before the final play and explains to his team that he wants to use their reluctant star (Jimmy) as a decoy and then have someone else take the final shot. The team hems and haws and stare at their sneakers…..Hackman screams at them “What’s wrong?” Whereupon Jimmy speaks up and says “Give me the ball….I’ll make the shot”…..and so, in the movie, he did. That’s how guys like McSorley are…..It isn’t arrogance or ego….They believe in themselves and almost always believe that, all things being equal, they will ‘make the shot’ or the play. And this guy has proven it all the way through high school and at his career at PSU.
It is like setting up an out of bounds play for.Horace Grant with 3 seconds left in Game.7.
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Jose "Useless Pile of Horse Excrement" Mesa. Discuss.
Nobody was calling Jose Mesa a pile of shit the year before, when he was nearly untouchable. I was noticing during that World Series year that he was not quite the same as the year before—that he was no longer cable of appearing night after night and still have the kind of effectiveness that he had before. As I remember that game in Miami, he had pitched the night before the final game, and when it came to the point of game 7 where it was time to bring in a closer, I was screaming at my TV screen “Don’t use Mesa tonight—use Mike Jackson, who was almost a co-closer with Mesa that year. But no…they went with Mesa and the team and Mesa forever paid the price.
To be fair, no one calls Mesa that except me and possibly Omar Vizquel. It is my issue, and my way of coping, and I own it.
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Also, Jackson had pitched the 8th and had not done a lot of two inning stints. I was ok with bringing in Joe Table. It was his pitch choice.
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Also, Jackson had pitched the 8th
I had not remembered this (so many years ago…..sigh) Still, Mesa was still getting the majority of closer opportunities that year (maybe 2 out of 3?), as I remember it. I do remember I was very apprehensive about bringing in Mesa, so I must have felt that Jackson was capable of another inning since his accumulated number of innings wouldn't have been that high.
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Trivia:
Who was coaching Jan 1 2011 for the Spartans.
No wait that would make that guy a starter that never got out of the first inning I suppose. Anyhoo,(15th ranked in the BCS?)Blowing it comes in all sorts of packages.
Discuss.
Next up Jan 8th 2007. Double edged sword for me on that one though. But what the heck.
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best with a team that by all measures should have won making a bad play call that sealed the loss? Other than using baseball for the analogy I fail to see any connection.
Mesa had a world class fastball and a second rate slider. At a crucial point in the 9th inning of Game 7, Mesa three times shook of Alomar's fastball call to throw his slider, feeling the batter would be sitting fastball. That Charles Johnson could not catch up to his fastball if he was sitting on it from 70' 7" did not enter into his thinking. Instead Mesa became the first person, and one of only two in history (Mariano Rivera, so good company) to blow a.9th inning Game 7 save, on his second best pitch.
Franklin saw a shift in OSU's defense that told him he had five blockers on four linemen, and called a play for that alignment, forgetting, first, OSU's four linemen had been playing in their backfield all game, and second the wise maxim that in crucial situations think players, not plays. He relied on his second best offensive player, and it cost him the chance to win the game. Hence the analogy with Mesa, borrowing driver's idea.
I am unaware of any game MSU played in January of 2007. Basketball?
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best
Actually the team that won was ranked far below the team that lost on Jan 1 2011 going into that game. So you will have to rewrite your response.
And for the record I concede that you are correct in your comparison of Franklin and Mesa. Quite clever actually.
My 'no' response was that I didn't want to discuss it. But I got sucked into it anyway by my own weakness.
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Also, Jackson had pitched the 8th
I had not remembered this (so many years ago…..sigh) Still, Mesa was still getting the majority of closer opportunities that year (maybe 2 out of 3?), as I remember it. I do remember I was very apprehensive about bringing in Mesa, so I must have felt that Jackson was capable of another inning since his accumulated number of innings wouldn't have been that high.
Well, he only threw 5 pitches, but Grover pulled him for Anderson with 2 outs in the 8th so he was done anyway.
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Well, UCLA fans did predict Chip Kelly would produce a memorable team.
LOW Highlight Award winner!
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Trivia:
Who was coaching Jan 1 2011 for the Spartans.
No wait that would make that guy a starter that never got out of the first inning I suppose. Anyhoo,(15th ranked in the BCS?)Blowing it comes in all sorts of packages.
Discuss.
Next up Jan 8th 2007. Double edged sword for me on that one though. But what the heck.
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best with a team that by all measures should have won making a bad play call that sealed the loss? Other than using baseball for the analogy I fail to see any connection.
Mesa had a world class fastball and a second rate slider. At a crucial point in the 9th inning of Game 7, Mesa three times shook of Alomar's fastball call to throw his slider, feeling the batter would be sitting fastball. That Charles Johnson could not catch up to his fastball if he was sitting on it from 70' 7" did not enter into his thinking. Instead Mesa became the first person, and one of only two in history (Mariano Rivera, so good company) to blow a.9th inning Game 7 save, on his second best pitch.
Franklin saw a shift in OSU's defense that told him he had five blockers on four linemen, and called a play for that alignment, forgetting, first, OSU's four linemen had been playing in their backfield all game, and second the wise maxim that in crucial situations think players, not plays. He relied on his second best offensive player, and it cost him the chance to win the game. Hence the analogy with Mesa, borrowing driver's idea.
I am unaware of any game MSU played in January of 2007. Basketball?
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best
Actually the team that won was ranked far below the team that lost on Jan 1 2011 going into that game. So you will have to rewrite your response.
And for the record I concede that you are correct in your comparison of Franklin and Mesa. Quite clever actually.
My 'no' response was that I didn't want to discuss it. But I got sucked into it anyway by my own weakness.
I said better, not more highly ranked, and I can give you precisely 42 reasons for that opinion.
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Trivia:
Who was coaching Jan 1 2011 for the Spartans.
No wait that would make that guy a starter that never got out of the first inning I suppose. Anyhoo,(15th ranked in the BCS?)Blowing it comes in all sorts of packages.
Discuss.
Next up Jan 8th 2007. Double edged sword for me on that one though. But what the heck.
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best with a team that by all measures should have won making a bad play call that sealed the loss? Other than using baseball for the analogy I fail to see any connection.
Mesa had a world class fastball and a second rate slider. At a crucial point in the 9th inning of Game 7, Mesa three times shook of Alomar's fastball call to throw his slider, feeling the batter would be sitting fastball. That Charles Johnson could not catch up to his fastball if he was sitting on it from 70' 7" did not enter into his thinking. Instead Mesa became the first person, and one of only two in history (Mariano Rivera, so good company) to blow a.9th inning Game 7 save, on his second best pitch.
Franklin saw a shift in OSU's defense that told him he had five blockers on four linemen, and called a play for that alignment, forgetting, first, OSU's four linemen had been playing in their backfield all game, and second the wise maxim that in crucial situations think players, not plays. He relied on his second best offensive player, and it cost him the chance to win the game. Hence the analogy with Mesa, borrowing driver's idea.
I am unaware of any game MSU played in January of 2007. Basketball?
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best
Actually the team that won was ranked far below the team that lost on Jan 1 2011 going into that game. So you will have to rewrite your response.
And for the record I concede that you are correct in your comparison of Franklin and Mesa. Quite clever actually.
My 'no' response was that I didn't want to discuss it. But I got sucked into it anyway by my own weakness.
I said better, not more highly ranked, and I can give you precisely 42 reasons for that opinion.
The fact still stands that the much higher ranked team blew it big time to the much lower ranked team. You can't change that fact by trying to quantify it on 'your terms'. Well you can try, but succeeding is technically an impossibility.
1 or 42 reasons in hindsight mean nothing at all.
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Trivia:
Who was coaching Jan 1 2011 for the Spartans.
No wait that would make that guy a starter that never got out of the first inning I suppose. Anyhoo,(15th ranked in the BCS?)Blowing it comes in all sorts of packages.
Discuss.
Next up Jan 8th 2007. Double edged sword for me on that one though. But what the heck.
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best with a team that by all measures should have won making a bad play call that sealed the loss? Other than using baseball for the analogy I fail to see any connection.
Mesa had a world class fastball and a second rate slider. At a crucial point in the 9th inning of Game 7, Mesa three times shook of Alomar's fastball call to throw his slider, feeling the batter would be sitting fastball. That Charles Johnson could not catch up to his fastball if he was sitting on it from 70' 7" did not enter into his thinking. Instead Mesa became the first person, and one of only two in history (Mariano Rivera, so good company) to blow a.9th inning Game 7 save, on his second best pitch.
Franklin saw a shift in OSU's defense that told him he had five blockers on four linemen, and called a play for that alignment, forgetting, first, OSU's four linemen had been playing in their backfield all game, and second the wise maxim that in crucial situations think players, not plays. He relied on his second best offensive player, and it cost him the chance to win the game. Hence the analogy with Mesa, borrowing driver's idea.
I am unaware of any game MSU played in January of 2007. Basketball?
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best
Actually the team that won was ranked far below the team that lost on Jan 1 2011 going into that game. So you will have to rewrite your response.
And for the record I concede that you are correct in your comparison of Franklin and Mesa. Quite clever actually.
My 'no' response was that I didn't want to discuss it. But I got sucked into it anyway by my own weakness.
I said better, not more highly ranked, and I can give you precisely 42 reasons for that opinion.
The fact still stands that the much higher ranked team blew it big time to the much lower ranked team. You can't change that fact by trying to quantify it on 'your terms'. Well you can try, but succeeding is technically an impossibility.
1 or 42 reasons in hindsight mean nothing at all.
My comment, my terms. I said better team. You do not get to change that to your liking.
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Every few seasons, going all the way to back to Bear Bryant (see Fran Curci, Jerry Claiborne, Hal Mumme and Rich Brooks) Kentucky puts together a half-way decent season, we get headlines telling us "Kentucky: It's Not Just a Basketball School Anymore" and then they go right on back to being a basketball school. I figure they'll wind up 8-4, likely lose in a bowl game and go right on back to where they've been.
Yup. Kentucky is this year's Kansas from several years back
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Two people in that poll are clearly being contrarian for the sake of being argumentative. I hate when people do that.
:-)
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Every few seasons, going all the way to back to Bear Bryant (see Fran Curci, Jerry Claiborne, Hal Mumme and Rich Brooks) Kentucky puts together a half-way decent season, we get headlines telling us "Kentucky: It's Not Just a Basketball School Anymore" and then they go right on back to being a basketball school. I figure they'll wind up 8-4, likely lose in a bowl game and go right on back to where they've been.
Yup. Kentucky is this year's Kansas from several years back
It's kind of like USC and basketball.
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Trivia:
Who was coaching Jan 1 2011 for the Spartans.
No wait that would make that guy a starter that never got out of the first inning I suppose. Anyhoo,(15th ranked in the BCS?)Blowing it comes in all sorts of packages.
Discuss.
Next up Jan 8th 2007. Double edged sword for me on that one though. But what the heck.
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best with a team that by all measures should have won making a bad play call that sealed the loss? Other than using baseball for the analogy I fail to see any connection.
Mesa had a world class fastball and a second rate slider. At a crucial point in the 9th inning of Game 7, Mesa three times shook of Alomar's fastball call to throw his slider, feeling the batter would be sitting fastball. That Charles Johnson could not catch up to his fastball if he was sitting on it from 70' 7" did not enter into his thinking. Instead Mesa became the first person, and one of only two in history (Mariano Rivera, so good company) to blow a.9th inning Game 7 save, on his second best pitch.
Franklin saw a shift in OSU's defense that told him he had five blockers on four linemen, and called a play for that alignment, forgetting, first, OSU's four linemen had been playing in their backfield all game, and second the wise maxim that in crucial situations think players, not plays. He relied on his second best offensive player, and it cost him the chance to win the game. Hence the analogy with Mesa, borrowing driver's idea.
I am unaware of any game MSU played in January of 2007. Basketball?
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best
Actually the team that won was ranked far below the team that lost on Jan 1 2011 going into that game. So you will have to rewrite your response.
And for the record I concede that you are correct in your comparison of Franklin and Mesa. Quite clever actually.
My 'no' response was that I didn't want to discuss it. But I got sucked into it anyway by my own weakness.
I said better, not more highly ranked, and I can give you precisely 42 reasons for that opinion.
The fact still stands that the much higher ranked team blew it big time to the much lower ranked team. You can't change that fact by trying to quantify it on 'your terms'. Well you can try, but succeeding is technically an impossibility.
1 or 42 reasons in hindsight mean nothing at all.
My comment, my terms. I said better team. You do not get to change that to your liking.
You were commenting on what I said, so no, not your terms. If you didn't understand what I said and implied I can try to explain it to again, But it's unnecessary because I know you understood. You purposely tried to change what I said which is your wont most of the time. This usually ends up in a pissing contest whereas we yak and yak and yak ending up in both of us telling the other to fuck off.
So lets cut to the chase I'm tired today, FUCK OFF.
Your turn.
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Every few seasons, going all the way to back to Bear Bryant (see Fran Curci, Jerry Claiborne, Hal Mumme and Rich Brooks) Kentucky puts together a half-way decent season, we get headlines telling us "Kentucky: It's Not Just a Basketball School Anymore" and then they go right on back to being a basketball school. I figure they'll wind up 8-4, likely lose in a bowl game and go right on back to where they've been.
Yup. Kentucky is this year's Kansas from several years back
Y'know I was sorta thinking that myself. I remember railing about that 2007 Jayhawk team. In the end I was wrong.
We'll have to wait and see about Kentucky I guess
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Well, UCLA fans did predict Chip Kelly would produce a memorable team.
LOW Highlight Award winner!
Aw, shucks ! (Blushes)
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It's kind of like USC and basketball.
Fair enough
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Trivia:
Who was coaching Jan 1 2011 for the Spartans.
No wait that would make that guy a starter that never got out of the first inning I suppose. Anyhoo,(15th ranked in the BCS?)Blowing it comes in all sorts of packages.
Discuss.
Next up Jan 8th 2007. Double edged sword for me on that one though. But what the heck.
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best with a team that by all measures should have won making a bad play call that sealed the loss? Other than using baseball for the analogy I fail to see any connection.
Mesa had a world class fastball and a second rate slider. At a crucial point in the 9th inning of Game 7, Mesa three times shook of Alomar's fastball call to throw his slider, feeling the batter would be sitting fastball. That Charles Johnson could not catch up to his fastball if he was sitting on it from 70' 7" did not enter into his thinking. Instead Mesa became the first person, and one of only two in history (Mariano Rivera, so good company) to blow a.9th inning Game 7 save, on his second best pitch.
Franklin saw a shift in OSU's defense that told him he had five blockers on four linemen, and called a play for that alignment, forgetting, first, OSU's four linemen had been playing in their backfield all game, and second the wise maxim that in crucial situations think players, not plays. He relied on his second best offensive player, and it cost him the chance to win the game. Hence the analogy with Mesa, borrowing driver's idea.
I am unaware of any game MSU played in January of 2007. Basketball?
So you are equating getting blown out by a superior team playing at its best
Actually the team that won was ranked far below the team that lost on Jan 1 2011 going into that game. So you will have to rewrite your response.
And for the record I concede that you are correct in your comparison of Franklin and Mesa. Quite clever actually.
My 'no' response was that I didn't want to discuss it. But I got sucked into it anyway by my own weakness.
I said better, not more highly ranked, and I can give you precisely 42 reasons for that opinion.
The fact still stands that the much higher ranked team blew it big time to the much lower ranked team. You can't change that fact by trying to quantify it on 'your terms'. Well you can try, but succeeding is technically an impossibility.
1 or 42 reasons in hindsight mean nothing at all.
My comment, my terms. I said better team. You do not get to change that to your liking.
You were commenting on what I said, so no, not your terms. If you didn't understand what I said and implied I can try to explain it to again, But it's unnecessary because I know you understood. You purposely tried to change what I said which is your wont most of the time. This usually ends up in a pissing contest whereas we yak and yak and yak ending up in both of us telling the other to fuck off.
So lets cut to the chase I'm tired today, FUCK OFF.
Your turn.
Ranking is irrelevant to the example. Alabama was simply the better team, by far and beyond any ratio al dispute. The decision that lead to the trouncing was made when the bids were.accepted, or at the very least the decision by MSU to show up. Dantonio would have to somehow convinced Alabama to wear the wrong uniforms to have made a difference.
Ranking was irrelevant Saturday, though for 52 minutes PSU was the superior team even though lower ranked and by rights should have won. That it did not can be laid to Franklin's door in a way the Woodshed Bowl cannot be laid at Dantonio's door.
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Oh, and.go sod a Trump.
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JB
I just saw the replay of the play that put Trevor Lawrence out. This is not an uncommon Freshman error in judgement IMO. Especially for a "big" QB. They still have the mindset that they can run through most defenders (like they did in HS).
Carson Palmer did the same thing in his true Freshman year. He suffered a shoulder separation as I recall.
Hopefully Lawrence will learn a great lesson from this one.
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JB
I just saw the replay of the play that put Trevor Lawrence out. This is not an uncommon Freshman error in judgement IMO. Especially for a "big" QB. They still have the mindset that they can run through most defenders (like they did in HS).
Carson Palmer did the same thing in his true Freshman year. He suffered a shoulder separation as I recall.
Hopefully Lawrence will learn a great lesson from this one.
He didn't quite duck fast enough. It's a quick game, another thing different than HS, these defensive guys are a lot faster and arrive a bit earlier.
He should have paid more attention to that math poser, 'if two trains are heading towards each other at different speeds....' :-)
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He should have paid more attention to that math poser, 'if two trains are heading towards each other at different speeds....' :-)
Suddenly, there it was….the moment that that math teacher kept warning him about….the moment where this math shit could save his life………….and he missed it.
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LOL, a lot of life lessons out there Driver bro.
https://youtu.be/Hy-PGSaxrBM (https://youtu.be/Hy-PGSaxrBM)
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Yeah, Tlaw looked awkward on that play, off balance, luckily he’s not not paraplegic, we’ll see how we fare, maybe not muff any more punts on our 5, perfect storm for an upset and we dodged it, with an acrobatic catch from Renfrow and a couple of amazing plays from a kid who had just peeled the green tee.
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RIP CJ Fuller. Hard to understand.
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Yeah, sad.
Shaq Lawson of bills said cj was coming to see him the next day.
Family awaiting autopsy, I’m not aware of any other reported circumstances other that latent health conditions or drugs.
No matter though, just sad, just a kid.
I think Lawrence has been announced starter tomorrow but if not curious to see how Brice performs. Interested to find out how many phone booths he has.
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#20 no more.
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Seminoles corpse showing some sort of life.
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Did somebody mention Dan Mullen a little while back?
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Idk, but I’ve long thought he should lose the visor.
That said, FSU was easy $$ getting 10 or 13, I forget but last time I checked a W is still marked in the “w” column.
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Maybe it was just a reflexive twitch.
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Syracuse spits the bit and loses to a bad team Pitt.
Michigan State spits the bit and loses to a hitherto 1-3 team Northwestern. Nice homecoming in East Lansing.
As sometimes happens two teams have identical W/L records and have played each other. Yet the team that won that matchup is ranked lower than the team that lost.
Nick Saban is unhappy with the way they played on defense. What a surprise. Only this time he may actually have a point.
Speaking of Alabama is there another team out there that is averaging more points offensively in the first half than them? I mean there might be, I haven't actually checked.
And is OSU the consummate underachiever in the first half or a second half powerhouse? Or both?
Is Texas back. Would a one loss Longhorns(Or the Sooners) team have a shot against another one loss power five team(Or ND) when it became Football Four pickin time? Or is West Virginia going undefeated the Big 12s only real hope?
The AAC East, three undefeated teams still there at this point.
Is Miami a paper tiger? 5-1 yet lost to the only good team they played.
If the Gators don't look past Vandy and win they then get a weeks rest before Georgia comes into town. Do they have a good shot against the Dawgs?
UCF Knights, at this point in time it looks like the pretenders get their two toughest opponents back to back at the end of the regular season. First at home and then away. Does an undefeated UFC get in this year over any one loss non conference champ Power Five or ND? Or even a one loss Power Five conference champ, if it is let's say a Big 12 team?
Lastly, how good is Notre Dame?
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"Lastly, how good is Notre Dame? "
so far, it's just like most years. They remind of UCLA in most years. They start out strong and everybody hypes them up and then the fall apart at the end of the season.
They might surprise me this year we will see.
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I have to stop visiting Cali. Every time I visit Cali on a Saturday, the refs screw us.
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I have to stop visiting Cali. Every time I visit Cali on a Saturday, the refs screw us.
And you even saw the game?
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I have to stop visiting Cali. Every time I visit Cali on a Saturday, the refs screw us.
And you even saw the game?
I could not be more.certain the refs screwed us if I had. And I mean that literally.
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Two weeks in the mountains with no tv or web. Did I miss anything
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A little here and there Bo. :-)
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Two weeks in the mountains with no tv or web. Did I miss anything
Bama still #1
Sox beat Yankees
cap and boz are pissing on each other about something
Hope the mountains were good to you.
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Two weeks in the mountains with no tv or web. Did I miss anything
Bama still #1
Sox beat Yankees
cap and boz are pissing on each other about something
Hope the mountains were good to you.
I was pissing on cap. Cap was pissing on himself.
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Two weeks in the mountains with no tv or web. Did I miss anything
Bama still #1
Sox beat Yankees
cap and boz are pissing on each other about something
Hope the mountains were good to you.
Nice recap. :-)
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Two weeks in the mountains with no tv or web. Did I miss anything
Bama still #1
Sox beat Yankees
cap and boz are pissing on each other about something
Hope the mountains were good to you.
I was pissing on cap. Cap was pissing on himself.
Coming from a guy that couldn't find his pud even if he was holding onto it.
Which you probably are.
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Well Scotty, Colorado has never beaten the Trojans 0-12.
What do you think about your chances are against the undefeated Buffs?
You guys haven't really been able to get the running game working with any degree of consistency so far this season. Lots of penalties I think is the main reason.
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Georgia gets it first real test this weekend against a Bayou Bengal team licking their wounds from the close loss to the Gators. Game manager retread Burrows threw his first two interceptions of the season last week. Fromm who hasn't gotten the Heisman hype of his Alabama counterpart could find the sledding a little tough.
Michigan vs Wisconsin: I'm liking that Wolverine defense and not liking very much that Badger secondary.
Bama vs Mizzou: I look for the first complete game out of this Tide defense in this one. So far IMO they've had way too many silly brain lapses from a usually surgically precise defense.
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First cold(ish) weather game of the season of the season in Ann Arbor. Daughter is looking forward to it.
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Cold(ish) weather is supposed to blow in here tonight. Daytime temperatures around 53 degrees F.
Perfect Fall football weather. :-)
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Cold(ish) weather is supposed to blow in here tonight. Daytime temperatures around 53 degrees F.
Perfect Fall football weather. :-)
Here too. We haven't topped 90 all week. Breaking out the fleece and hot cocoa.
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:-)
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24958945/errors-made-replay-review-procedure (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24958945/errors-made-replay-review-procedure)
Not sure why the PAC brass is upset. The correct call was made IMO. Looked like non-forcible contact to me. Barely touched the guy. At some point common sense needs to prevail. It seemed like it had/so move on.
What did you think Scotty?
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What do you think about your chances are against the undefeated Buffs?
I like them.
Especially since the cheating Pac 12 officials have been exposed and should be on guard against more anti-USC cheating. But then...hope springs eternal.
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Not sure why the PAC brass is upset.
The Pac 12 brass is not at all upset...except in that they were caught cheating again. The reason the media is upset is because an administrative employee with no officiating training is not supposed to be overriding the league's top official on what is and is not a penalty.
This guy (woodie) has a history of screwing USC. Larry Scott once again denied that it happened until the media got their hands on an internal document that proved that it did. He then had to retract again.
With any luck, both Woodie and Larry Scott will finally lose their jobs.
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Nice to see all the love here again!
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Not sure why the PAC brass is upset.
The Pac 12 brass is not at all upset...except in that they were caught cheating again. The reason the media is upset is because an administrative employee with no officiating training is not supposed to be overriding the league's top official on what is and is not a penalty.
This guy (woodie) has a history of screwing USC. Larry Scott once again denied that it happened until the media got their hands on an internal document that proved that it did. He then had to retract again.
With any luck, both Woodie and Larry Scott will finally lose their jobs.
So the headline is: PAC loses its Woodie so no more getting off as Scott is freed?
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I see Harbaugh's Wolverines are 0-5 when Gameday comes to Ann Arbor.
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So the headline is: PAC loses its Woodie so no more getting off as Scott is freed?
Something like that.
How about, Holy Scott: Pac 12 Woodie Exposed!
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I see Harbaugh's Wolverines are 0-5 when Gameday comes to Ann Arbor.
Exactly why Meatchicken should hire Linda Lovelace as head coach.
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Hey Whiskey, the other day I was in a supermarket (this is in Maryland) wearing my "Michigan Dad" t-shirt where I bumped into a man wearing a "Sparty Dad" t-shirt. It almost turned ugly but being grown-ups we talked things out. I texted of this meeting to my daughter, who while only a freshman, immediately texted back "I'm surprised he could read your shirt." They start 'em early in Ann Arbor.
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Hey Whiskey, the other day I was in a supermarket (this is in Maryland) wearing my "Michigan Dad" t-shirt where I bumped into a man wearing a "Sparty Dad" t-shirt. It almost turned ugly but being grown-ups we talked things out. I texted of this meeting to my daughter, who while only a freshman, immediately texted back "I'm surprised he could read your shirt." They start 'em early in Ann Arbor.
Tell her to get ready for stunning disappointment October 20.
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So the headline is: PAC loses its Woodie so no more getting off as Scott is freed?
Something like that.
How about, Holy Scott: Pac 12 Woodie Exposed!
Excellent. ;-)
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Hey Whiskey, the other day I was in a supermarket (this is in Maryland) wearing my "Michigan Dad" t-shirt...
That is it. You are dead to me.
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while only a freshman, immediately texted back "I'm surprised he could read your shirt."
Gotta Love Rivalries
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Gators come into the game thinking it's going to be easy. Defense getting pushed around like they were high school players.
Offense making stupid mistake after mistake. Bad coaching preparation by Mullen and pals.
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Once again OSU playing soft defense in the first half. Silly Gopher mistakes keeping it close.
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Great one handed catch by Hill.
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Florida/Vandy getting chippy . :-)
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Once again OSU playing soft defense in the first half. Silly Gopher mistakes keeping it close.
Not certain who the left edge rusher is for Alabama and ClemSIN but if tOSU does not do something about their right tackle before the playoffs they might as well dress them in scarlet and grey. I could speed rush that guy.
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Once again OSU playing soft defense in the first half. Silly Gopher mistakes keeping it close.
Not certain who the left edge rusher is for Alabama and ClemSIN but if tOSU does not do something about their right tackle before the playoffs they might as well dress them in scarlet and grey. I could speed rush that guy.
Are you talking about Thayer?
Excellent defense by the Buckeyes in the second half.
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Georgia in a big hole now.
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Fuckin Burrow is a gamer.
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Well that was somewhat annoying.
Congrats Stevo.
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It's an ugly trophy anyway, cap. You didn't want it.
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And Mark Dantonio smiled.
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Fuckin Burrow is a gamer.
Once again, watching OSU and LSU back to back, you see that Meyer made the right.decision, and also why it.was a tough on.
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Yeah he probably made the right decision, but he couldn't have gone wrong either way I think.
He's still a dick.
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The hometown Cyclones shocking the Mountainers until WHOOP!
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The Mary Hardin-Baylor Crusaders continue to be a force in Division III. Not only are they 6-0 they have another great defense this year.
Having scored 364 points offensively they have only given up 35 points in those six games. Yes that's not a typo, 35 points. Yeesh!
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Hey Penn State!
0-4 against MSU and tOSU over 2 years does not get you to the playoffs.
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Yep.
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Syracuse spits the bit and loses to a bad team Pitt.
The Cuse didn't play, jury still out.
Michigan State spits the bit and loses to a hitherto 1-3 team Northwestern. Nice homecoming in East Lansing.
State redeems themselves with a gutsy away win.
As sometimes happens two teams have identical W/L records and have played each other. Yet the team that won that matchup is ranked lower than the team that lost.
Both teams win so I believe the situation will remain static for the time being.
Nick Saban is unhappy with the way they played on defense. What a surprise. Only this time he may actually have a point.
Saban's defense, to me, seems to not be quite as good as earlier versions. Not to say they're bad, just not as disciplined as we're used to seeing. Speaking of undisciplined, will the SEC step in and suspend Raekwon Davis for a game? IMO they should if Nicky doesn't do it himself.
Speaking of Alabama is there another team out there that is averaging more points offensively in the first half than them? I mean there might be, I haven't actually checked.
Still haven't checked but that average went down a notch.
And is OSU the consummate underachiever in the first half or a second half powerhouse? Or both?
After looking at yesterday's game this hypothesis seems to have some merit.
Is Texas back. Would a one loss Longhorns(Or the Sooners) team have a shot against another one loss power five team(Or ND) when it became Football Four pickin time? Or is West Virginia going undefeated the Big 12s only real hope?
WVa goes down and goes down hard. Texas loses their starting QB but pulls off another W. Barely as their offense gets skunked in the second half. Herman may have a problem.
The AAC East, three undefeated teams still there at this point.
UCF and USF roar back and then both hang on for dear life. Cincinnati is dormant.
Is Miami a paper tiger? 5-1 yet lost to the only good team they played.
The theory that the Hurricanes are a paper tiger also seems to have some merit.
If the Gators don't look past Vandy and win they then get a weeks rest before Georgia comes into town. Do they have a good shot against the Dawgs?
IMO the Gators did look past Vandy. But they looked an entirely different team in the second half. The chippiness before the end of the first half had a little something to do with that no doubt.
UCF Knights, at this point in time it looks like the pretenders get their two toughest opponents back to back at the end of the regular season. First at home and then away. Does an undefeated UFC get in this year over any one loss non conference champ Power Five or ND? Or even a one loss Power Five conference champ, if it is let's say a Big 12 team?
The jury is still out on this one as far as I'm concerned.
Lastly, how good is Notre Dame?
I don't think anyone is impressed with what Notre Dame did yesterday. Is it because Pitt is improving or ND came in expecting a cakewalk? Maybe a little bit of both. The Irish get Navy next.
And as a bonus, speaking of Navy. Army looks to have one of the best teams I've seen from them in a long long time. But the Cadets get a couple of MAC teams back to back before facing an Air Force squad that sunk the Middies earlier in the year and also skunked beloved Stony Brook. GO ARMY!
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Which of those three OSU hypotheses were you thinking had merit?
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5: Washington:
Oh Son...you're not buying into all the Petersen hype are you? The Puppies got nothing. Auburn may have less...but still...
It seems you were right and I was way off base on this one Scotty. The one USC TD was waaay underthrown but with a linebacker matched up on Pittman...
Nice job by the Trojan defense in this one. A few broken assignments but for the most part a well played defensive effort.
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Which of those three OSU hypotheses were you thinking had merit?
Lets go with the last one.
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Once again OSU playing soft defense in the first half. Silly Gopher mistakes keeping it close.
Not certain who the left edge rusher is for Alabama and ClemSIN but if tOSU does not do something about their right tackle before the playoffs they might as well dress them in scarlet and grey. I could speed rush that guy.
Are you talking about Thayer?
I was talking about Isaiah Prince, OSU RT who spent the entire second half trying to push Minnesota's left DE around Haskins because he could not block him.
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Yeah, Walter Football says pretty much the same thing about him and edge rushers. Well they say he has yet to be tested. Looks like he failed a quiz.
Still the guy is in a different position from last year and some guys learn faster than others. I think he'll improve as the year wears on.
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He's another DC/Baltimore guy who wound up at OSU.
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The one USC TD was waaay underthrown but with a linebacker matched up on Pittman...
Nice job by the Trojan defense in this one. A few broken assignments but for the most part a well played defensive effort.
it was...but the way Colorado was playing to stop the run it was basically man coverage on the receivers. Daniels also had a few really good throws in full stride that were just missed. I think this game will pay dividends down the line for the offense.
The defense played very well...but at a high cost.
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LB is a problem yes.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/ny-sports-nick-bosa-ohio-state-nfl-20181016-story.html
Not a surprise.
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Smart move on his part. I wish the young man well.
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Smart move on his part. I wish the young man well.
He was unlikely to be fly healthy before bowl season, no sense creating negative tape.
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LB is a problem yes.
Seven (7) Linebackers on Injury report currently. WTF?
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LB is a problem yes.
Seven (7) Linebackers on Injury report currently. WTF?
Bama had LB problems last year. But not as bad as the Trojans this year I think.
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https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2018/10/17/michigan-football-iran-president-mahmoud-ahmadinejad/1668260002/
Evil knows evil.
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Well there can only be one response to that:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/gamedaykickoff101918/ranking-one-loss-teams-college-football-playoff-potential (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/gamedaykickoff101918/ranking-one-loss-teams-college-football-playoff-potential)
1. Michigan Wolverines (6-1)
This week: at No. 24 Michigan State (noon ET, Fox)
Toughest remaining test: Nov. 24 at Ohio State
The scenario: Given how poorly Georgia played in its loss to LSU and the Bulldogs' difficult upcoming schedule, it seems -- at least for now -- more likely that the Wolverines will win their league, rather than Georgia winning its. Michigan might wind up having the best loss in the country -- the season opener to Notre Dame. It certainly wouldn't keep the Wolverines out of the selection committee's top four if Michigan were to win out. The Wolverines can't afford to overlook the Spartans this weekend, though, as Michigan State just knocked Penn State out of the conversation and has embraced its role as spoiler. Michigan, which racked up a season-high 320 rushing yards in the win over Wisconsin last weekend, will face the nation's top rushing defense. The Spartans are limiting opponents to just 62.3 rushing yards per game.
The odds: The Big Ten has an 11 percent chance to get multiple teams into the playoff, second best to the SEC. There's a 21 percent chance Michigan will be 10-1 and Ohio State will be 11-0 when the teams meet in Columbus on Nov. 24.
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it won't keep Michigan out...so long as Notre Dame doesn't pull its annual collapse between now and then.
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it won't keep Michigan out...so long as Notre Dame doesn't pull its annual collapse between now and then.
God will keep Meatchicken out. He and I have an understanding on this.
And if not God, Urban Meyer.
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The chippiness starts early.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25033077/michigan-linebacker-devin-bush-scuffs-msu-logo (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25033077/michigan-linebacker-devin-bush-scuffs-msu-logo)
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cap you get my response?
and fwiw I'm agnostic in Elba's Grad v Dad battle today in Lansing..
I rooting for a tie.
that will probably satisfy boz and yank.
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Got it Rich.
As to the game I seem to be waffling back and forth. Bit of a cheap shot by the Mich DB just now, But the WR 'was' inbounds I guess. :-)
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Got it Rich.
As to the game I seem to be waffling back and forth. Bit of a cheap shot by the Mich DB just now, But the WR 'was' inbounds I guess. :-)
I thought that was a flag-wothy hit. the MSU kid was clearly going OOB, play was over, looked late to me.
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BIG fumble.
Nice trick play.
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Michigan starting to lose its cool.
Their inability to throw the ball downfield is killing them.
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And now the Spartans cough up some momentum. LOL
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Thank god we don't play Bowdoin.
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Bullshit call.
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I really thought NC St would put up more of a fight offensively than that. Solid performance by the Tiger defense.
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A good day for beloved Stony Brook.
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Thank god we don't play Bowdoin.
And that U of Chicago dropped out of Big 10 eons ago.
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I really thought NC St would put up more of a fight offensively than that. Solid performance by the Tiger defense.
Bad call by Swinney to Swinney fake debacle that threatened mo in the 1st half.
Our D looked good, aided by a couple tip picks and a couple legit turnovers and pack dropped passes. ACC top QB prolly no more after facing our front 4 and uncharacteristically blemish-free coverage in the secondary.
Nice win, beginning to click.
Waiting for tosu to play with urgency, Boilermaker giving them hell right about now.
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A funny thin happened on the way to the championship.
Bye
Bye
Bucky
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It's a beeeeeaaaauuutifuuulll night to drink Boilermakers
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A funny thin happened on the way to the championship.
Bye
Bye
Bucky
Win out and they will be in, unless Alabama does not win God's Conference.
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Tough break Driver bro.
The good news is that your guys still control your destiny, I think. Although I'm not totally sure if losing to Purdue, at the moment, looks better than losing to Texas or USC.
Now with that being said, please plug your ears bro.
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Hey Penn State!
0-4 against MSU and tOSU over 2 years does not get you to the playoffs.
LMAO Skippy, Karma jumped up and took large bite right out of your ass didn't it.
And it could very well be that losing to Iowa and, chortle, Purdue might not get you into the playoffs either.
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As I watched the Bama game Danielson threw out a stat that I had mentioned a couple of weeks ago.
Namely Bama's first half scoring average. I believe I heard him say that the Tide, who is #1 in the nation in scoring average, would still be 28th in total scoring per game if they only used their first half scoring average. So I did some research and discovered that they would now actually be 21st taking into consideration yesterday's game against Tennessee. BAM! Uh.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/roadtochamp102118/ohio-state-buckeyes-loss-felt-college-football-playoff-contenders (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/roadtochamp102118/ohio-state-buckeyes-loss-felt-college-football-playoff-contenders)
How Ohio State's loss will affect other playoff hopefuls
This is why the Big 12 isn't done yet.
It's why the Ohio State-Michigan game just got even bigger -- even though it's also why the Big Ten lost its chance to get both teams into the semifinals.
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...Both Ohio State and Michigan should finish with a better schedule strength than Oklahoma, though the Sooners still have a chance to beat a ranked West Virginia team on the road and possibly avenge the regular-season loss to Texas by beating the Longhorns in the Big 12 title game. Ohio State has a neutral site nonconference win against TCU and a road win at Penn State, and it could further impress the committee with a win at Michigan State on Nov. 10 and a home win over rival Michigan on Nov. 24, plus the Big Ten title. Michigan, which could wind up having the best loss in the country if Notre Dame remains undefeated, also would have a playoff-worthy résumé if it wins the Big Ten. The Wolverines are in the midst of a three-game stretch against ranked opponents, having already defeated No. 15 Wisconsin and No. 24 Michigan State.
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As Lee Corso says. NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND! :-)
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Of course the Pure Prairie League and the Big Whatever are still in the picture. A Notre Dame loss would likely put both leagues in it if tOSU or Meatchicken and Oklahoma or Texas runs the table. And of the two, the Big Whatever champ is most likely in if it comes.to a choice because the league strength gives tOSU and Meatchicken a better schedule of wins.
The analysis you posted has a bit of poll thinking in it. The Committee cares more about who you beat than who you lost to. That Oklahoma lost to Texas and tOSU lost to Purdue means less than tOSU otherwise running the gamut of the Big Whatever East while Oklahoma plays in a down Pure Prairie League. Meatchicken having the "best loss" will mean little if they go on to beat PSU, tOSU and Iowa.
The interesting thing is what the Committee would do with a one loss Washington State or Iowa as conference champions. Historically, the Committee has not considered the resume of a two loss team, even a two loss conference champion, to be equal to the resume of a one loss team. It would be interesting to see how the Committee treats those two compared to,.say, a two loss Georgia that loses to Alabama in the God's Conference title game.
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Tough break Driver bro.
The good news is that your guys still control your destiny, I think. Although I'm not totally sure if losing to Purdue, at the moment, looks better than losing to Texas or USC.
As I noted, the Committee cares more about who you beat than who you lost to. We should habe learned that from year one, when the Committee continued to rate TCU over Baylor and wound up putting tOSU in despite having the "worst" loss among one loss teams.
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Maybe they do maybe they don't, they didn't seem to care about PSU beating OSU a couple of years back. Personally I think they are, and have been, inconsistent and all over the place since their inception.
But really I don't feel like rehashing that argument again.
Bottomline: OSU is no lock if they win out that's for sure. A probable yes as I said to Driver, but not a lock.
All that said dude, lets move on to Purdue and one of the reasons that, eventually, losing to them might not be all that bad.
They've won 4 in a row and have kicked ass in doing it. Winning by an average of almost 25 ppg. In their 3 loses, again all in a row early, it was losing by an average of less than a FG. Should they keep winning(next opponent the Sparties) the loss might not hurt the Buckeyes as much as one would think again assuming they keep winning or at least turn it around and garner themselves a bowl game bid.
Yes? No?
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Funny how the bucknut traveling contortionist show has begun!! Beyond your wildest imagination!! You won’t believe you eyes or nose!! The bullish!t that defies all reason and mans understanding of the rules of the physical universe!!
The SNOWGLOBE is shaken, not stirred, and with a wetted finger to the prevailing winds of pop whimsy, cautious observers are refusing to roll out the fat lady until the Family Pretzel has performed. The ooos and aaahs are coming, certainly!!
Really!!
I promise, and with every SWEATINMYVEST, I swear there’s uh-poss (burp)...a poss...a poss...a (burp) possibility (glug)...
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A funny thin happened on the way to the championship.
Bye
Bye
Bucky
Win out and they will be in, unless Alabama does not win God's Conference.
I think in your second scenario a one loss Michigan or Ohio State beats out a one loss Oklahoma on strength of schedule for the final spot. The only definitive result of the Purdue shellacking is the B1G lost a shot at two teams in the final four.
Of course the Buckeyes have to cobble together a running game, stop committing so many penalties, and prevent big plays by lesser teams. I don’t think that will happen.
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2 teams in the playoffs, please see Roy Orbison’s “In Dreams...”
Get freaking real, dude, that pathetic fake bluster is what defines Biggie Smalls.
Put another way: You just PLAYED YOURSELF.
You can not make this sh!t up, smh.
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Maybe they do maybe they don't, they didn't seem to care about PSU beating OSU a couple of years back. Personally I think they are, and have been, inconsistent and all over the place since their inception.
But really I don't feel like rehashing that argument again.
They have been remarkably consistent, but we can get into that later.
Bottomline: OSU is no lock if they win out that's for sure. A probable yes as I said to Driver, but not a lock.
I think a one loss Meatchicken or tOSU are a lock, over Oklahoma or Texas. WSU would not be in the picture against either. Putting a one loss Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie would make the decision on the fourth interesting.
All that said dude, lets move on to Purdue and one of the reasons that, eventually, losing to them might not be all that bad.
They've won 4 in a row and have kicked ass in doing it. Winning by an average of almost 25 ppg. In their 3 loses, again all in a row early, it was losing by an average of less than a FG. Should they keep winning(next opponent the Sparties) the loss might not hurt the Buckeyes as much as one would think again assuming they keep winning or at least turn it around and garner themselves a bowl game bid.
Yes? No?
Purdue has a great coach. A team to watch that is getting better. I am just glad yankguy didn't send a kid there.
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2 teams in the playoffs, please see Roy Orbison’s “In Dreams...”
The SEC has a shot at two teams, no one else, in case you misunderstood me.
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Funny how the bucknut traveling contortionist show has begun!! Beyond your wildest imagination!! You won’t believe you eyes or nose!! The bullish!t that defies all reason and mans understanding of the rules of the physical universe!!
The SNOWGLOBE is shaken, not stirred, and with a wetted finger to the prevailing winds of pop whimsy, cautious observers are refusing to roll out the fat lady until the Family Pretzel has performed. The ooos and aaahs are coming, certainly!!
Really!!
I promise, and with every SWEATINMYVEST, I swear there’s uh-poss (burp)...a poss...a poss...a (burp) possibility (glug)...
Want to put a twelve of Keystone Light on it? OSU wins out and is in the playoffs, you give the 12 to your lawyer's overworked and underpaid Secretary in my name. Miss out and I will send it to your caregiver to dole out to you at the doctor's order. Wind up with more than one loss, no bet.
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2 teams in the playoffs, please see Roy Orbison’s “In Dreams...”
Get freaking real, dude, that pathetic fake bluster is what defines Biggie Smalls.
Put another way: You just PLAYED YOURSELF.
You can not make this sh!t up, smh.
No, it was a very real scenario. It required two major conference champs with two losses, and a one loss UM winning the Big Ten after handing OSU its only loss. The Committee has consistently shown the it does not consider the resume of a two loss team to be equivalent to a one loss team. That is why OSU over PSU despite the head to head and Alabama over OSU despite the conference championship. Now the only chance of getting two teams from the same conference in involves Alabama losing, and another 1 loss God's Conference champ.
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You’re on, but I suspect no bet a’tall if’n that same team takes the field versus the remainder of their formidable Biggy Lesserer slate.
Yeah, the secretary is long-suffering under that shyster who’s got me out of my share of sh!t back in the day. Anyone who stands toe to toe with Arliss Howard’s LA Jew is somebody in my book. The secretary has always survived on the kindness of strangers and the occasional short grift like the next gal.
Used to be a hell of a dice-thrower, I could roll until I had both boot heels full of cash.
I p!ssed most of it away on motor oil and cold ones, but that’s everybody’s story I guess. I’m not complaining.
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How’s about a 2 loss LSU?
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Speaking of Kentucky
I believe I said they have a shot at 10-2 a while back.
They may not look pretty, but they have an eat the clock up offense and a stingy little defense. And I still think they still have a shot at that 10-2 mark.
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How’s about a 2 loss LSU?
Speaking of LSU have I mentioned I hate the targeting rule? Not the spirit of it, just the total arbitrary pansyassiness of it.
Fitzgerald gets a 'hit' that wouldn't hurt your sister and blip....
The Joe Montana hit vs the Giants. Now that was a friggin hit. WHUT THA FUK?
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How’s about a 2 loss LSU?
Not over a one loss team.
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What if LSU is the SEC Champion with 2 losses?
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A typical website contemplating the targeting rule. LOL
https://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/threads/devin-white-suspended-1st-half-vs-bama.415980/
(https://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/threads/devin-white-suspended-1st-half-vs-bama.415980/)
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What if LSU is the SEC Champion with 2 losses?
Cf, Penn State in 2016 and OSU last year. Not that LSU can win the conference with two losses, since a.second loss in Conference makes their path to the championship game much harder, but a two loss Gods Conference Champ would be sidelined in favor of a one loss Alabama. The Committee in its final rankings do not see 1 and 2 loss teams as having similar resumes. And since conference champions, like head to head, only get separate consideration when the resumes are similar, the Committee has consistently kept a two loss champion out in favor of a strong one loss team on the basis of the over all resumes.
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So, yeah, when it was tpsu??
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What if LSU is the SEC Champion with 2 losses?
Cf, Penn State in 2016 and OSU last year. Not that LSU can win the conference with two losses, since a.second loss in Conference makes their path to the championship game much harder, but a two loss Gods Conference Champ would be sidelined in favor of a one loss Alabama. The Committee in its final rankings do not see 1 and 2 loss teams as having similar resumes. And since conference champions, like head to head, only get separate consideration when the resumes are similar, the Committee has consistently kept a two loss champion out in favor of a strong one loss team on the basis of the over all resumes.
Maybe, Maybe not.
For instance Bama could lose to LSU and Auburn and LSU could lose to Tex A&M. Michigan and OSU could bot lose again, Georgia, Fla, Wash St etc etc. The point being lots of football still left. Could be one of those years, you never know. The only undefeated team might be UCF. Or your personal favorite ND.
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What if LSU is the SEC Champion with 2 losses?
Cf, Penn State in 2016 and OSU last year. Not that LSU can win the conference with two losses, since a.second loss in Conference makes their path to the championship game much harder, but a two loss Gods Conference Champ would be sidelined in favor of a one loss Alabama. The Committee in its final rankings do not see 1 and 2 loss teams as having similar resumes. And since conference champions, like head to head, only get separate consideration when the resumes are similar, the Committee has consistently kept a two loss champion out in favor of a strong one loss team on the basis of the over all resumes.
Maybe, Maybe not.
For instance Bama could lose
Sorry, you lost me right there.
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What if LSU is the SEC Champion with 2 losses?
Cf, Penn State in 2016 and OSU last year. Not that LSU can win the conference with two losses, since a.second loss in Conference makes their path to the championship game much harder, but a two loss Gods Conference Champ would be sidelined in favor of a one loss Alabama. The Committee in its final rankings do not see 1 and 2 loss teams as having similar resumes. And since conference champions, like head to head, only get separate consideration when the resumes are similar, the Committee has consistently kept a two loss champion out in favor of a strong one loss team on the basis of the over all resumes.
Maybe, Maybe not.
For instance Bama could lose
Sorry, you lost me right there.
And everybody else.
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What if LSU is the SEC Champion with 2 losses?
Cf, Penn State in 2016 and OSU last year. Not that LSU can win the conference with two losses, since a.second loss in Conference makes their path to the championship game much harder, but a two loss Gods Conference Champ would be sidelined in favor of a one loss Alabama. The Committee in its final rankings do not see 1 and 2 loss teams as having similar resumes. And since conference champions, like head to head, only get separate consideration when the resumes are similar, the Committee has consistently kept a two loss champion out in favor of a strong one loss team on the basis of the over all resumes.
Maybe, Maybe not.
For instance Bama could lose
Sorry, you lost me right there.
Yeah, well it felt funny when I typed it.
Playing Devil's Advocate isn't always easy.
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What if LSU is the SEC Champion with 2 losses?
Cf, Penn State in 2016 and OSU last year. Not that LSU can win the conference with two losses, since a.second loss in Conference makes their path to the championship game much harder, but a two loss Gods Conference Champ would be sidelined in favor of a one loss Alabama. The Committee in its final rankings do not see 1 and 2 loss teams as having similar resumes. And since conference champions, like head to head, only get separate consideration when the resumes are similar, the Committee has consistently kept a two loss champion out in favor of a strong one loss team on the basis of the over all resumes.
Maybe, Maybe not.
For instance Bama could lose
Sorry, you lost me right there.
And everybody else.
Quiet twit.
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It occurs to me that there is a very real chance the playoff teams will be Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lad.of the Perpetual Tie, and Meatchicken, which is my definition of Hell. Nothing to root for.but the sweet oblivion of death.
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It occurs to me that there is a very real chance the playoff teams will be Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lad.of the Perpetual Tie, and Meatchicken, which is my definition of Hell. Nothing to root for.but the sweet oblivion of death.
Well you could root for LSU to knock off Bama this week-end, and then run the SEC table.
Then pray to Our Lady of Big Time Football (a position formerly held by Condi Rice) doesn't seed Saban's hordes #4
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Actually, all four losing would be enough. Though Alabama would probably have to lose twice.
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It occurs to me that there is a very real chance the playoff teams will be Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lad.of the Perpetual Tie, and Meatchicken, which is my definition of Hell. Nothing to root for.but the sweet oblivion of death.
On the other hand I would find that lineup very appealing.
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I imagine whisk finds the inclusion of meatchicken* and NBCDOME the most egregious or morally disconcerting.
ALA, CLEM I could see as oh, them again, but I can’t think of teams anyone would really rather watch other than their own.
On ND: Look how they barely escaped Wake Florist, a team that we were playing 3rd stringers against in the second half.
I don’t think we are a lock, because football tends to throw curveballs (cough).
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I imagine whisk finds the inclusion of meatchicken* and NBCDOME the most egregious or morally disconcerting.
ALA, CLEM I could see as oh, them again, but I can’t think of teams anyone would really rather watch other than their own.
On ND: Look how they barely escaped Wake Florist, a team that we were playing 3rd stringers against in the second half.
I don’t think we are a lock, because football tends to throw curveballs (cough).
You are forgetting my oft stated opinion that ClemSIN could not beat Indiana, and my utter moral revulsion at the thought of Nick "Traitor" Satan.
Obviously lot of football to be played, and while Alabama is pretty much a mortal lock even with one loss, there is a real chance of three conferences with a two loss champ.
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You can’t not like a team with 3 backs that go for 125 each in a game.
We ar so flipping loaded.
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Here's a game I'll always remember. In 1983 Maryland was ranked 7th and went down to play Auburn who was ranked 2nd or 3rd. Tommie Agee rushed for over 200 yards and Lionel James and Bo both went over 100 themselves. And yet Maryland was in the game almost the whole way. Maybe Boomer's best game. I'll always remember that one. Bobby Ross was a great coach.
The next week they were destroyed by Clemson.
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We were still cheating then. 😏😏😏
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We paid the favor back the following year in Baltimore in a game highlighted by Kevin Glover pancaking The Refrigerator several times. That game was the week after the famous comeback against Miami.
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Every few years there is a team hailed as the greatest ever college football team. Bama could lose...happens all the time.
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If Tua stays healthy, they will win everything going away.
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If Tua stays healthy, they will win everything going away.
Last year's Tua is this year's Trevor. He's coming fast
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If Tua stays healthy, they will win everything going away.
Unless they lose. .
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It’s implicit and explicit in my statement that they win everything if Tus stays.healthy.
Admittedly I went to college at CLEM, but they had an interesting course:
PHIL 101: An introduction to logic.
They probably have an online version. at tuph, or Phoenix University, where you could attain all the benefits of logical thinking from the comfort of your mothers basement.
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It’s implicit and explicit in my statement that they win everything if Tus stays.healthy.
Admittedly I went to college at CLEM, but they had an interesting course:
PHIL 101: An introduction to logic.
Freshman level logic? Yeah, that's you.
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Freshman level logic? Yeah, that's you.
While unquestionably funny...I'm pretty sure that qualifies as a logical fallacy right there.
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If there's anything I can't stand, it's intolerance
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It’s implicit and explicit in my statement that they win everything if Tus stays.healthy.
Admittedly I went to college at CLEM, but they had an interesting course:
PHIL 101: An introduction to logic.
Freshman level logic? Yeah, that's you.
Okay, you got me, I had one course in logic at CLEM.
So, har har har, freshman logic.
Maybe you are more advanced as your humor is frequently sophomoric...
See what I did there, rotflolol...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Freshman level logic? Yeah, that's you.
Maybe you are more advanced as your humor is frequently sophomoric...
oh Boy...looks like I need to bring back the LOW Highlights for you two.
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It’s implicit and explicit in my statement that they win everything if Tus stays.healthy.
Admittedly I went to college at CLEM, but they had an interesting course:
PHIL 101: An introduction to logic.
Freshman level logic? Yeah, that's you.
Okay, you got me, I had one course in logic at CLEM.
So, har har har, freshman logic.
Maybe you are more advanced as your humor is frequently sophomoric...
See what I did there, rotflolol...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Only frequently?
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It’s implicit and explicit in my statement that they win everything if Tus stays.healthy.
Admittedly I went to college at CLEM, but they had an interesting course:
PHIL 101: An introduction to logic.
They probably have an online version. at tuph, or Phoenix University, where you could attain all the benefits of logical thinking from the comfort of your mothers basement.
JB
Don't be too upset with boz, he's a Son of Sparta, home to proud warriors, and you a son of Clem. home to fruits of all kinds and Lindsay Graham, so differences are to be expected.
And as I recall the Spartans had little use for the brainy type in Athens, like Socrates or Plato, or for that matter guys who likes ties from South Bend, like Parsegian.
Any Games of the Century on Saturday, its supposed to be raining like crazy tomorrow here in Jersey, so I may catch up on the some college ball.
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Yeah, I think we went to different schools.—“Spartan,” David Mamet, in his way of turning a phrase on its “ear”...
Yeah, I Lindsey a fruit, but he was always thought of as “our” fruit, a moderate conservative reflective of our politics. I know people think of us as “deep red,” and we are, but our politics aren’t nearly as coarse and (openly racist) as GA. Not a defense of SC, but Lindsay was always a reasoned, measured, and intelligent voice on Judiciary and whatever the Senate calls Armed Services (Defense), and willing to (!!??) compromise.
Then the tea party happened, and he tached right rhetorically (but was still “our Lindsay”)
And then McCain still held the talisman of All things Holy over Lindsay.
Then McCain died, and the talisman rolled out of his hand and (I was told in slo-no), a birds eye shot of said icon shattered into a million pieces while the canera panned the shock and dismay of those in attendance.
And then, I’d course, Lindsay lost his goddammed mind.
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And whisk, didn’t mean to offend your proclivity fore juvenalia by saying “frequently,” well played.
But you have to understand all pronouncements come from a a person oft described as incoherency boy, given to changes in perspective that involve recurring narrative elements of betrayal, motor oil, cheap beer, resentment,and occasional reverie, ahem. Sometimes a milk crate is more reliable than a friend, etc.
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Sometimes a milk crate is more reliable than a friend
...is that when you need help to carry a load?
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It’s implicit and explicit in my statement that they win everything if Tus stays.healthy.
Admittedly I went to college at CLEM, but they had an interesting course:
PHIL 101: An introduction to logic.
They probably have an online version. at tuph, or Phoenix University, where you could attain all the benefits of logical thinking from the comfort of your mothers basement.
JB
Don't be too upset with boz, he's a Son of ...
… Any Games of the Century on Saturday, its supposed to be raining like crazy tomorrow here in Jersey, so I may catch up on the some college ball.
Probably not, but I find Florida/Georgia interesting.
And of course Cuse/NC St is a must see. :-)
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And whisk, didn’t mean to offend your proclivity fore juvenalia by saying “frequently,” well played.
But you have to understand all pronouncements come from a a person oft described as incoherency boy, given to changes in perspective that involve recurring narrative elements of betrayal, motor oil, cheap beer, resentment,and occasional reverie, ahem. Sometimes a milk crate is more reliable than a friend, etc.
Not to worry. I never take your trappings seriously.
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Oh I almost forgot West Chester and Kutztown go at it on Saturday too. With the battle for East supremacy on the line. Be a tough game for the Bears against that outstanding Rams defense. Both teams undefeated and nationally ranked. Wish I could watch it.
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Sometimes a milk crate is more reliable than a friend
...is that when you need help to carry a load?
Haven’t really worked out the “metaphor” yet, but who needs a lawyer with bungee cord and a roll of quarters, etc.
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Oh I almost forgot West Chester and Kutztown go at it on Saturday too. With the battle for East supremacy on the line. Be a tough game for the Bears against that outstanding Rams defense. Both teams undefeated and nationally ranked. Wish I could watch it.
Lumbergh is such an @sshole.
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That's Maryland.
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If you cannot win a championship with someone named "Rocky Lombardi" as your QB, you might as well pack it in.
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Holy sh!t.
Love me some Christian Wilkins.
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God, Florida State is so fucking not Florida State. How can a program like that bottom out so quickly without being put on probation?
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The Rocky Lombardi era has begun.
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What a roller coaster game that was Scotty. The Trojans came up a bit short.
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God, Florida State is so fucking not Florida State. How can a program like that bottom out so quickly without being put on probation?
I actually was entertaining the thought before the game that the Noles might give Clemson a game.
I know Clemson is a great team but Fla St has got way too much talent on that team to get hosed that bad.
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As I suspected the Bears just couldn't overcome that Ram defense. The Golden Rams have the PSAC's best defense and it showed today.
All the talk was about the Bears OL and skill players. But as I and my bud Stevo know, defense wins championships.
The G'Rams have held opposing offenses to around 250 total yards per game this year Holding them down to about 15 points and 50'some rushing yards per game, leading the PSAC in all three categories. Additionally they've got the sixth ranked defense in Div II and lead the nation in sacks.
DEFENSE BABY.
YEAH.
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Florida wilts late and Georgia is right back in the hunt.
Kentucky wins on an untimed down setting up a showdown.
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What a roller coaster game that was Scotty. The Trojans came up a bit short.
All the best teams lose to the Sun Devils.
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Northwestern is in first place in Big 10 West("even though we're terrible" my son reports).
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That reminds me: I hope the yankguy child curse is limited to progeny.
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Red Sox win, NU hockey takes out unbeaten St. Cloud State and Cal beats someone with a pulse. Oh and SU puts a hurtin on NC State. A good day and it's a Seven dollar bottle of red tonight
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Northwestern is in first place in Big 10 West("even though we're terrible" my son reports).
I watch Thorson and get a bit frustrated with him at times. One minute he does really intelligent shit and the next he does bonehead shit. Kinda like Stevo.
But seriously, the kid makes some silly errors out there that someone with his experience shouldn't be making. He's got next level talent physically but his brain needs to catch up to that.
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Red Sox win, NU hockey takes out unbeaten St. Cloud State and Cal beats someone with a pulse. Oh and SU puts a hurtin on NC State. A good day and it's a Seven dollar bottle of red tonight
And more than three years old too. :-)
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As I said earlier Army has itself a pretty darned good team. Look out Navy.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/recap?gameId=401013372 (http://www.espn.com/college-football/recap?gameId=401013372)
Army routs Eastern Michigan, clinches bowl eligibility for third straight season:
YPSILANTI, Mich. -- After battling through a 2-10 season as a freshman, Jordan Asberry knows the depth of where the Army football program was when coach Jeff Monken took over in 2014.
Now bowl eligible after Saturday's rainy 37-22 win at Eastern Michigan, the senior running back should close his career in the postseason for a third straight year -- a first for the Black Knights.
"Coach Monken and the staff have turned this program around," said Asberry, who caught a touchdown and ran for another. "We worked real hard, but we didn't really see the fruit of our labor [in 2015].
"That sets the stage for finishing this year strong, but also the next season for the guys that are going to be playing next year."
The streak of three bowl-eligible seasons is the longest in program history for Army, who controlled the clock against Eastern Michigan by outgaining the Eagles 289-34 on the ground, earning its fourth straight win.
Army (6-2), which led the nation averaging 39 minutes of possession per game, had the ball for 45 minutes, 42 seconds on Saturday.
Eastern Michigan (4-5) did not have a first down in the first half of its homecoming game, going three-and-out on its first four possessions and running one play on its fifth before halftime.
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Speaking of Kentucky
I believe I said they have a shot at 10-2 a while back.
They may not look pretty, but they have an eat the clock up offense and a stingy little defense. And I still think they still have a shot at that 10-2 mark.
Mark up another win for the Wildcats.
They definitely aren't pretty and it looks like they're doing it with mirrors sometimes. But a winzawin.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/video?gameId=401012322
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So, get ready for some showdowns week.
Four SEC teams in the AP top ten in two games that will likely decide the League Title Game match up.
In the West Alabama at LSU and in the East Georgia at Kentucky.
LSU’s defense ranks 30th in the nation in yards allowed per play(4.79).
No team ‘Bama has played this year has been ranked lower than 81st in the same stat. For the Tide on offense quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has yet to take a snap in the 4th quarter of ANY game this year. Alabama has been that dominant.
On the Blue Grass Parkway between Lexington and Louisville traffic will be heavy both ways this weekend. Horse racing fans will be headed to Churchill Downs for the Breeders Cup. But just as many will be heading to Lexington as the Kentucky Wildcats try to wrap up the SEC East by beating Georgia.
StubHub lists comparable tickets to both events at $300 and up.
In Evanston, Illinois another Cinderella team, Northwestern, is atop the Big Ten West and awaits powerful Notre Dame, probably the biggest test of the year left for the undefeated Irish.
Penn State has played in five games this year decided by 6 points or fewer.
That last happened in 1894. It could happen again this week in Ann Arbor against Michigan where the Wolverines are clicking right along toward a B1G West Title.
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I can't remember when 11 teams in the Top 25 all went down in the same weekend.
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I can't remember when 11 teams in the Top 25 all went down in the same weekend.
Considering all the byes, including Alabama, LSU, Meatchicken and tOSU, that is more than half of the ones that played.
Lincoln Riley will look great coaching the Browns next year.
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So, get ready for some showdowns week.
Four SEC teams in the AP top ten in two games that will likely decide the League Title Game match up.
In the West Alabama at LSU and in the East Georgia at Kentucky.
LSU’s defense ranks 30th in the nation in yards allowed per play(4.79).
No team ‘Bama has played this year has been ranked lower than 81st in the same stat. For the Tide on offense quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has yet to take a snap in the 4th quarter of ANY game this year. Alabama has been that dominant.
On the Blue Grass Parkway between Lexington and Louisville traffic will be heavy both ways this weekend. Horse racing fans will be headed to Churchill Downs for the Breeders Cup. But just as many will be heading to Lexington as the Kentucky Wildcats try to wrap up the SEC East by beating Georgia.
StubHub lists comparable tickets to both events at $300 and up.
In Evanston, Illinois another Cinderella team, Northwestern, is atop the Big Ten West and awaits powerful Notre Dame, probably the biggest test of the year left for the undefeated Irish.
Penn State has played in five games this year decided by 6 points or fewer.
That last happened in 1894. It could happen again this week in Ann Arbor against Michigan where the Wolverines are clicking right along toward a B1G West Title.
LSU will be without their best LB for the first half thanks to another bullshit targeting call. LSU is 7th in the nation in scoring defense. That stat is about to take a bit of a hit.
Kentucky is in trouble. But has a punchers shot.
The Mich defense is a tough nut to crack I have my doubt that PSU can do it.
All of the teams above except PSU is in the Top 15 nationally in scoring defense.(Note: Kentucky is #1)
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So, get ready for some showdowns week.
Four SEC teams in the AP top ten in two games that will likely decide the League Title Game match up.
In the West Alabama at LSU and in the East Georgia at Kentucky.
LSU’s defense ranks 30th in the nation in yards allowed per play(4.79).
No team ‘Bama has played this year has been ranked lower than 81st in the same stat. For the Tide on offense quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has yet to take a snap in the 4th quarter of ANY game this year. Alabama has been that dominant.
On the Blue Grass Parkway between Lexington and Louisville traffic will be heavy both ways this weekend. Horse racing fans will be headed to Churchill Downs for the Breeders Cup. But just as many will be heading to Lexington as the Kentucky Wildcats try to wrap up the SEC East by beating Georgia.
StubHub lists comparable tickets to both events at $300 and up.
In Evanston, Illinois another Cinderella team, Northwestern, is atop the Big Ten West and awaits powerful Notre Dame, probably the biggest test of the year left for the undefeated Irish.
Penn State has played in five games this year decided by 6 points or fewer.
That last happened in 1894. It could happen again this week in Ann Arbor against Michigan where the Wolverines are clicking right along toward a B1G West Title.
LSU will be without their best LB for the first half thanks to another bullshit targeting call. LSU is 7th in the nation in scoring defense. That stat is about to take a bit of a hit.
Kentucky is in trouble. But has a punchers shot.
The Mich defense is a tough nut to crack I have my doubt that PSU can do it.
All of the teams above except PSU is in the Top 15 nationally in scoring defense.(Note: Kentucky is #1)
PSU,beating Meatchicken sets up the real life, non-theoretical, possibility of three conferences having a two loss champion. Be interesting to see what happens if Notre Dame ends the season with only one loss.
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If the Irish take NW for granted they will be in big trouble.
In fact every game they have left has potential upset written all over them.
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What a roller coaster game that was Scotty. The Trojans came up a bit short.
Yes. The first 1-1/2 quarters were not much fun, but after that I thought it was an entertaining game.
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All the best teams lose to the Sun Devils.
:) so...we have that going for us
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Lincoln Riley will look great coaching the Browns next year.
Not if Jerry Jones has anything to say about it.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2770558?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2770558?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial)
Good read
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Predictions for the first Committee rankings:
1. Alabama
2. ClemSIN
Dead Man's Hand: LSU
4. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie
5. Georgia
6. Meatchicken
7. Oklahoma
8. tOSU
9. Kentucky
10. Florida
11. Washington State
12. the Pennsylvania State university
13. West Virginia
14. UCF
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It looks like Durkin will return to coaching at Maryland. Terrible decision.
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It looks like Durkin will return to coaching at Maryland. Terrible decision.
Can he start before Saturday?
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Predictions for the first Committee rankings:
1. Alabama
2. ClemSIN
Dead Man's Hand: LSU
4. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie
5. Georgia
6. Meatchicken
7. Oklahoma
8. tOSU
9. Kentucky
10. Florida
11. Washington State
12. the Pennsylvania State university
13. West Virginia
14. UCF
I'll go:
1: Bama
2: Clemson
3: Notre Dame
4: LSU
5: Michigan
6: Georgia
7: Oklahoma
8: OSU
9: UCF(In a shocker)
10: West Virginia
11: Kentucky
12: Wash St.
13: PSU
14: Florida
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It looks like Durkin will return to coaching at Maryland. Terrible decision.
Yeah, he's a KILLER, after all.
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Yeah. That's exactly what I said. Nitwit.
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It looks like Durkin will return to coaching at Maryland. Terrible decision.
Agreed.
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He kilt that kid
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Yep. That's what I said. It 's amazing how somebody who takes pride in his gambling skill is so willing to double down on being a moron.
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Yep. That's what I said. It 's amazing how somebody who takes pride in his gambling skill is so willing to double down on being a moron.
Actually, if I take what you are implying correctly, shouldn't he double down on being a moron? :-)
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Dan Patrick calls for mandatory ice tubs at practices
So, is the NCAA going to institute this?
Why not?
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Durkin fired.
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Lawsuit to follow?
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Doesn't it always.
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I means the kid's parents. They've already filed notice of claims forms right?
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Oh. Probably.They've got high-powered counsel.
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Durkin fired.
Of course - he's a moidurur
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What's wrong with you?
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Just making fun of you, is all.
Good sport for me as my knee hasnt allowed me to play of late.
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You really are a stupid, lying motherfucker. I haven't called Durkin a killer, murderer or even a bad person. But he was in charge of a program where a child died needlessly. And you, a parent, think it's somehow amusing.
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Have you ever HAD that type responsibility - EVER in your life?
You act as if this guy was not as crushed by his player's death as everyone else that knew the young man.
Jeez - have some respect for the profession.
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That he was "crushed" by the death is horribly irrelevant. You think his feeling terrible about a child entrusted to his care dying for no reason is enough? He failed in handling a responsibility you think important enough to ask if I've ever had. You seem to think an "oops my bad" is enough. And my not "showing some respect for the profession" is somehow important? Would you entrust your children to somebody so careless with the lives of other's children?
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You dont know SHIT
Just wait to see how culpable/negligent they find him in the lawsuit (hint - he'll skate - but initially have some trouble finding work because of dumb shits like Stephen A and your ilk).
Stephen A link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m32FZrwZGvY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m32FZrwZGvY)
It was a terrible thing that happened - no denying.
Now answer my question re: Dan Patrick
Or avoid - as you so often like.
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Max Kellerman doesnt think Durkin had the program on the right track.
Interesting.
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He was in charge of a program that let a kid die. I know that SHIT.
What question is that? Have I ever had the responsibility of taking care of and watching out for other people' s children? Why yes I have.
Now answer my question. Would you let your kids, brilliant athletes we've been told, play for a coach who was so careless?
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And another voice heard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77nvQj06Vzk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77nvQj06Vzk)
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As far as not on the right track, coaching football at Maryland is a terrible job.
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He was in charge of a program that let a kid die. I know that SHIT.
What question is that? Have I ever had the responsibility of taking care of and watching out for other people' s children? Why yes I have.
Now answer my question. Would you let your kids, brilliant athletes we've been told, play for a coach who was so careless?
How was this coach careless that day?
Is he to
a) tell every kid with a cramp to stop training
b) follow every kid to the trainers room and OVERSEE what the trainers are doing - OVERRULING their expertise when he feels fit?
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Sounds like this coach in the end was canned because he was an old school maniac prick in trying to get the most of his players (one way of coaching) - not because a player died while on his roster.
A close family member of mine played for a coach like that - and would have run through a wall for the guy. Well respected 40-year coach, even in his well-known madness.
Now this
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/21/health/football-deaths-season-injuries-high-school-college-trnd/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/21/health/football-deaths-season-injuries-high-school-college-trnd/index.html)
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He was in charge of a program that let a kid die. I know that SHIT.
What question is that? Have I ever had the responsibility of taking care of and watching out for other people' s children? Why yes I have.
Now answer my question. Would you let your kids, brilliant athletes we've been told, play for a coach who was so careless?
How was this coach careless that day?
Is he to
a) tell every kid with a cramp to stop training
b) follow every kid to the trainers room and OVERSEE what the trainers are doing - OVERRULING their expertise when he feels fit?
He was in charge of hiring coaches and trainers who didn't know what to do with a child in obvious distress. Why is it hard for you to acknowledge that chief executive takes the fall for the incompetence of his underlings. Now, my question. Though your continuing to not answer it suggests that you would have no trouble with your kids, we've been told they're terrific athletes, playing for DJ Durkin. You're a very trusting man.
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Are Kiid and Mr. Utley the same poster
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He was in charge of a program that let a kid die. I know that SHIT.
What question is that? Have I ever had the responsibility of taking care of and watching out for other people' s children? Why yes I have.
Now answer my question. Would you let your kids, brilliant athletes we've been told, play for a coach who was so careless?
How was this coach careless that day?
Is he to
a) tell every kid with a cramp to stop training
b) follow every kid to the trainers room and OVERSEE what the trainers are doing - OVERRULING their expertise when he feels fit?
He was in charge of hiring coaches and trainers who didn't know what to do with a child in obvious distress. Why is it hard for you to acknowledge that chief executive takes the fall for the incompetence of his underlings. Now, my question. Though your continuing to not answer it suggests that you would have no trouble with your kids, we've been told they're terrific athletes, playing for DJ Durkin. You're a very trusting man.
Again agreed.
Which is why I thought Meyer should have been canned.
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Zach Smith was not acting in the course and scope of his employment when he beat his wife. Do you believe head coaches should be punished for the acts of their assistants outside of their duties - a.PSU running back coach gets a DUI while on a frolic of his own and Franklin gets punished? And would this apply to everyone, or just Meyer?
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I thought Meyer should have been canned.
That's different...he has a brain condition that was clearly impairing his ability to make good decisions.
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Are Kiid and Mr. Utley the same poster
Not unless he has multiple personality disorder...they are more like polar opposites
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Zach Smith was not acting in the course and scope of his employment when he beat his wife. Do you believe head coaches should be punished for the acts of their assistants outside of their duties - a.PSU running back coach gets a DUI while on a frolic of his own and Franklin gets punished? And would this apply to everyone, or just Meyer?
If it was a DUI that got someone injured. And/or if Franklin then tried to sweep it under that table and/or then say he never knew about it....
Yeah. He should have his ass canned.
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I thought Meyer should have been canned.
That's different...he has a brain condition that was clearly impairing his ability to make good decisions.
Yes, of course he does. Maybe that's also why OSU lost to Purdue. I hear he wiped his ass with his toothbrush the other day too. Nuther bad decision. And just like the Smith decision it left a bad taste in his mouth. ;-)
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Yes, of course he does.
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/15/15663c7d1f54a864918addfc66c3441c59717141867f59ac459195e326bc9519.jpg)
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Zach Smith was not acting in the course and scope of his employment when he beat his wife. Do you believe head coaches should be punished for the acts of their assistants outside of their duties - a.PSU running back coach gets a DUI while on a frolic of his own and Franklin gets punished? And would this apply to everyone, or just Meyer?
If it was a DUI that got someone injured. And/or if Franklin then tried to sweep it under that table and/or then say he never knew about it....
Yeah. He should have his ass canned.
The head coach is only responsible for the workplace.and his own conduct. So it is only the second half that justifies discipline.
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Zach Smith was not acting in the course and scope of his employment when he beat his wife. Do you believe head coaches should be punished for the acts of their assistants outside of their duties - a.PSU running back coach gets a DUI while on a frolic of his own and Franklin gets punished? And would this apply to everyone, or just Meyer?
If it was a DUI that got someone injured. And/or if Franklin then tried to sweep it under that table and/or then say he never knew about it....
Yeah. He should have his ass canned.
The head coach is only responsible for the workplace.and his own conduct. So it is only the second half that justifies discipline.
Nitpicking is something I have to admit you do well.
His ass should've been canned.
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(https://i.gifer.com/8Jp.gif)
Good movie. The underwear scene was a riot.
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I'm all in controversy
Gotta pull for the 2TD+ undercats in Death Valley
Seaux
Geaux Tigers
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Zach Smith was not acting in the course and scope of his employment when he beat his wife. Do you believe head coaches should be punished for the acts of their assistants outside of their duties - a.PSU running back coach gets a DUI while on a frolic of his own and Franklin gets punished? And would this apply to everyone, or just Meyer?
If it was a DUI that got someone injured. And/or if Franklin then tried to sweep it under that table and/or then say he never knew about it....
Yeah. He should have his ass canned.
The head coach is only responsible for the workplace.and his own conduct. So it is only the second half that justifies discipline.
Nitpicking is something I have to admit you do well.
His ass should've been canned.
I realize analysing an issue and thinking it through, as opposed to gut reactions you feel obligated to stick with even when facts change or your assumptions are wrong, is a problem for you. Discipline is related to personal responsibility. Head coaches are not responsible for the off work conduct of their staff. They are responsible for how they deal with it in the work place.
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Zach Smith was not acting in the course and scope of his employment when he beat his wife. Do you believe head coaches should be punished for the acts of their assistants outside of their duties - a.PSU running back coach gets a DUI while on a frolic of his own and Franklin gets punished? And would this apply to everyone, or just Meyer?
If it was a DUI that got someone injured. And/or if Franklin then tried to sweep it under that table and/or then say he never knew about it....
Yeah. He should have his ass canned.
The head coach is only responsible for the workplace.and his own conduct. So it is only the second half that justifies discipline.
Nitpicking is something I have to admit you do well.
His ass should've been canned.
I realize analysing an issue and thinking it through, as opposed to gut reactions you feel obligated to stick with even when facts change or your assumptions are wrong, is a problem for you. Discipline is related to personal responsibility. Head coaches are not responsible for the off work conduct of their staff. They are responsible for how they deal with it in the work place.
You have presented zero facts that change anything.
You keep hammering at the same bent nail you mis-hit the first time when you chimed in. These efforts have not gone unnoticed by me. Bravo.
You're opinion(and that is all you've presented)is not mine. Have you ever considered simply using the phrase 'we disagree'?
I freely recognize that you think your brilliance in subtly changing the parameters of what is being said is undecipherable on other peoples part. And to many I'm sure it is.
I'm just not one of them.
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The underwear scene was a riot.
KMart Sucks
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Geaux Tigers
No Controversy. Supporting Coach O. And dislike Alabama anyway. Enough is enough. Someone will beat them this year. Everytime people start talking about the "greatest football team in college history" during the middle of the season...the writing is on the wall.
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Geaux Tigers
No Controversy. Supporting Coach O. And dislike Alabama anyway. Enough is enough. Someone will beat them this year. Everytime people start talking about the "greatest football team in college history" during the middle of the season...the writing is on the wall.
You know where I'm going...
IF (big IF) Bama loses a close game on the road to #3, and LSU and Bama both win out, the pressure will remain on the committee to double-dip on the SEC.
Reading rationales from the interested parties will be be fun.
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Geaux Tigers
No Controversy. Supporting Coach O. And dislike Alabama anyway. Enough is enough. Someone will beat them this year. Everytime people start talking about the "greatest football team in college history" during the middle of the season...the writing is on the wall.
You know where I'm going...
IF (big IF) Bama loses a close game on the road to #3, and LSU and Bama both win out, the pressure will remain on the committee to double-dip on the SEC.
Reading rationales from the interested parties will be be fun.
A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs. Provided the actual SEC champ has only one loss, that puts two God's Conference teams in.
I suspect we get two unbeaten teams, one conference champs.with one loss and.mayem for that.final spot.
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Whisk:
I don’t understand: We agree that coaches are not responsible for the behavior of their coaches not at work.
If Meyer failed to act in a disciplinary manner or worse, as is the case, failed to act when he knew, lied about not knowing, caught lying about not knowing by university, ad nauseum.
Why shouldn’t he have been fired.
Because he didn’t hit the guys wife himself?
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I’m being fatuous Jeffery, but imputing responsibility for the act is not at issue in the Meyer case, one about mendacity and lies big daddy...
As far as not following ordinary protocols regarding hydration/health, every head coach who ignores science and goes with the water is for pussies theory of coaching should be subject to a strict standard. Any D1 team without a hydration coach next year and health monitoring protocols is missing the point, right.
Norms evolve.
I think the dam has kinda broken on the “water” controversy in coaching.
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jbottle:
In today's Washington Post there was an article written by Chuck Culpepper (who is excellent) about possibilities for the Maryland job next year. It appears that his conclusion is that Maryland should go after someone, anyone, currently on the Clemson staff.
I've said it before, as far as Power 5 Conference jobs goes, I think Maryland's is one of the worst.
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Geaux Tigers
No Controversy. Supporting Coach O. And dislike Alabama anyway. Enough is enough. Someone will beat them this year. Everytime people start talking about the "greatest football team in college history" during the middle of the season...the writing is on the wall.
You know where I'm going...
IF (big IF) Bama loses a close game on the road to #3, and LSU and Bama both win out, the pressure will remain on the committee to double-dip on the SEC.
Reading rationales from the interested parties will be be fun.
A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs. Provided the actual SEC champ has only one loss, that puts two God's Conference teams in.
I suspect we get two unbeaten teams, one conference champs.with one loss and.mayem for that.final spot.
Just taking a quick look, it looks like a couple of former Eastern Indie powerhouses, now ACC carpet-baggers, BC and Syracuse, might throw throw a monkey wrench into post-January travel plans for a couple of undefeated titans, and add to the mayhem.
a very used Trojan might also be a problem
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Little Red Corvette much??
[£]
Well, I doubt our DC would jump at the MY job, and he’s the top candididate from our program.
Our OOC tandem presents a problem in that they would be splitting up and taking on responsibility neither has the resume (or stomach) for...
You can also live like a King on what those guys make in Clemson...
MD you probably spend a million and a half on a house before you spend much else...
All of the jobs in FLA are better than MY now, and more favorable destinations for players as well.
The equation is simple: How much $$ can you save in 5 years before getting canned??
Also: Our DC requires the best “hold-back” man in the country. We pay ours $400K, and you can’t just “find” one, if you don’t identify that man by 7th grade, he will not develop properly.
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Whisk:
I don’t understand: We agree that coaches are not responsible for the behavior of their coaches not at work.
If Meyer failed to act in a disciplinary manner or worse, as is the case, failed to act when he knew, lied about not knowing, caught lying about not knowing by university, ad nauseum.
Why shouldn’t he have been fired.
Because he didn’t hit the guys wife himself?
Well he followed the reporting protocol. Lying to the press about it was not viewed as dischareable after an investigation, but worthy of discipline. I have no problem with that decision. I would not have had a problem with firing him, though that would not have been my decision. Some people want him fired because be is Urban Meyer or the school is OSU. Some because they came out publicly for discharge before learning all the facts and refuse to adjust their opinions for those facts. Some think there is only one club in the disciplinary bag. Some legitimately think that what he actually did deserved discharge. I have my opinion of where cap lies.
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Have you ever considered simply using the phrase 'we disagree'?
From the poster who spent three weeks arguing anyone who thought Meyer should not be fired actually agreed with you but was either making excuses.for Meyer or arguing for the sake of.arguing.
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Geaux Tigers
No Controversy. Supporting Coach O. And dislike Alabama anyway. Enough is enough. Someone will beat them this year. Everytime people start talking about the "greatest football team in college history" during the middle of the season...the writing is on the wall.
You know where I'm going...
IF (big IF) Bama loses a close game on the road to #3, and LSU and Bama both win out, the pressure will remain on the committee to double-dip on the SEC.
Reading rationales from the interested parties will be be fun.
A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs. Provided the actual SEC champ has only one loss, that puts two God's Conference teams in.
I suspect we get two unbeaten teams, one conference champs.with one loss and.mayem for that.final spot.
Just taking a quick look, it looks like a couple of former Eastern Indie powerhouses, now ACC carpet-baggers, BC and Syracuse, might throw throw a monkey wrench into post-January travel plans for a couple of undefeated titans, and add to the mayhem.
a very used Trojan might also be a problem
I think there is a decent chance that Cal, Texs and North by Northwest could each ram a rod through the spokes tomorrow.
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I’m being fatuous Jeffery, but imputing responsibility for the act is not at issue in the Meyer case, one about mendacity and lies big daddy...
As far as not following ordinary protocols regarding hydration/health, every head coach who ignores science and goes with the water is for pussies theory of coaching should be subject to a strict standard. Any D1 team without a hydration coach next year and health monitoring protocols is missing the point, right.
Norms evolve.
I think the dam has kinda broken on the “water” controversy in coaching.
Yep.
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Have you ever considered simply using the phrase 'we disagree'?
From the poster who spent three weeks arguing anyone who thought Meyer should not be fired actually agreed with you but was either making excuses.for Meyer or arguing for the sake of.arguing.
First, let me say about your response to my post that you can cherry pick with the best of them.
Second, I've used the we disagree model before on others and on you. It never works with you. You on the other hand you have never attempted to use that model on me.
Additionally even after I have used the 'we disagree' model you will still be attacking the windmill. In other words, if we don't have a full blown donnybrook you are simply not satisfied. I was just wondering, just out of curiosity, if you ever used that model with anyone else. Or if it was, FLAG on Stevo for targeting. LOL
So, to reCap(I crack myself up) in your case, you invite abuse. So, it would be impolite of me not to oblige you. And impolite of you not to accept it.
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So you guys just can’t agree to disagree that you can’t agree to disagree?
Where is the bottle??
Not me...
Spin it you silly teenagers!!
Get a room already!!
(cough)
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Whisk and I agreed that water is wet and that the H2OC position is coming. Fill it, gentlemen.
Laugh if you must but Coordinator of Hydration, don’t call it a glorified “water boy,” is coming...
This is a FUCKING. WATER. MAN.
...man...
Hey who is fucking close to water. Coors Light??
Har Har Har ASSHOLES!!
Your H20C IS!!
At all times!!
WATER??
WHAT IS IT??
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So you guys just can’t agree to disagree that you can’t agree to disagree?
Where is the bottle??
Not me...
Spin it you silly teenagers!!
Get a room already!!
(cough)
You're just catching on now?
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Have you ever considered simply using the phrase 'we disagree'?
From the poster who spent three weeks arguing anyone who thought Meyer should not be fired actually agreed with you but was either making excuses.for Meyer or arguing for the sake of.arguing.
First, let me say about your response to my post that you can cherry pick with the best of them.
Second, I've used the we disagree model before on others and on you. It never works with you. You on the other hand you have never attempted to use that model on me.
Additionally even after I have used the 'we disagree' model you will still be attacking the windmill. In other words, if we don't have a full blown donnybrook you are simply not satisfied. I was just wondering, just out of curiosity, if you ever used that model with anyone else. Or if it was, FLAG on Stevo for targeting. LOL
So, to reCap(I crack myself up) in your case, you invite abuse. So, it would be impolite of me not to oblige you. And impolite of you not to accept it.
You are the forum king of projection.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
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It would not be that expensive to put monitors on each kid for every practice that would disclose immediately any sort of serious distress. My guess is this is not far off.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I may have been too sure. The Committee has never elevated a one loss non-champ over a one loss conference champ. They may decide that the two one loss teams have similar resumes, and apply the tie breaker factors like head to head or conference champs.
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Have you ever considered simply using the phrase 'we disagree'?
From the poster who spent three weeks arguing anyone who thought Meyer should not be fired actually agreed with you but was either making excuses.for Meyer or arguing for the sake of.arguing.
First, let me say about your response to my post that you can cherry pick with the best of them.
Second, I've used the we disagree model before on others and on you. It never works with you. You on the other hand you have never attempted to use that model on me.
Additionally even after I have used the 'we disagree' model you will still be attacking the windmill. In other words, if we don't have a full blown donnybrook you are simply not satisfied. I was just wondering, just out of curiosity, if you ever used that model with anyone else. Or if it was, FLAG on Stevo for targeting. LOL
So, to reCap(I crack myself up) in your case, you invite abuse. So, it would be impolite of me not to oblige you. And impolite of you not to accept it.
You are the forum king of projection.
And you have usurped King James' position of the forum's opaque projector.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
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The targeting rule sucks shit on a stick.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
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Now it appears that Maryland's university accreditation is under review. I think some thought might need to be given to getting out of the D1 sports game.
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Now it appears that Maryland's university accreditation is under review. I think some thought might need to be given to getting out of the D1 sports game.
Well, no one in the Big 10 would miss them, where they never have got it in gear. Perhaps they would be missed on the basketball end.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
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The targeting rule sucks shit on a stick.
Just saw that play called on LSU for the first time. There is no way that should have been called targeting. Alabama has some refs rooting for them.
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Now it appears that Maryland's university accreditation is under review. I think some thought might need to be given to getting out of the D1 sports game.
Well, no one in the Big 10 would miss them, where they never have got it in gear. Perhaps they would be missed on the basketball end.
Whether or not the Big Whatever would miss them has nought to do with sports and.on field results, and more.to do with getting the Big 10 Network on cable systems on the east coast.
And if it was about sports, I am relatively sure the University of Manslaughter participates in other sports besides football and men's hoops.
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Now it appears that Maryland's university accreditation is under review.
Why is it under review? And what has that got to do with their involvement in D1 sports or their decision to reinstate Durkin?
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The accreditatio commission will be looking at the school's "ethics " "integrity" and "support of the student experience" in light of what's taken place the last few months. They won't lose their accreditation, but it's a wake-up call.
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got a link?
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
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The targeting rule sucks shit on a stick.
Just saw that play called on LSU for the first time. There is no way that should have been called targeting. Alabama has some refs rooting for them.
A love tap at best.
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Now it appears that Maryland's university accreditation is under review. I think some thought might need to be given to getting out of the D1 sports game.
I think they are more than a little symptomatic of several D1 colleges out there today. I'm surprised it doesn't happen much more often. Or maybe it does and I'm just not aware of it.
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Now it appears that Maryland's university accreditation is under review. I think some thought might need to be given to getting out of the D1 sports game.
Well, no one in the Big 10 would miss them, where they never have got it in gear. Perhaps they would be missed on the basketball end.
They and Rutgers.
Both schools went after the money. And who can blame them? Rutgers was latched onto IMO mostly for its marketing value as was Maryland. Not because of any sort of football threat to the old B10 established football powers.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
Quit obsessing over me and watch the games, stalker.
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Buckeye defensive middle looking soft. They'll have to tighten that up a bit or it's going to be a long day for them.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
Quit obsessing over me and watch the games, stalker.
Go fuck yourself, you disparage me and I so tell you to STFU. You've always been the projector when it comes to me and you know it. You want me to shut up then just shut up for once in your pathetic debate losin life.
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OSU offense looking worse than their defense.
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got a link?
Sorry. I'm typing on a phone which makes linking a far too complex task for a techno moron like me. Google Maryland and accreditation and you should get to some stuff in the Baltimore Sun.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
Quit obsessing over me and watch the games, stalker.
Go fuck yourself, you disparage me and I so tell you to STFU. You've always been the projector when it comes to me and you know it. You want me to shut up then just shut up for once in your pathetic debate losin life.
What do you know, I teach you the concept of "projection" and you start to use it as if you know what.it means. Stop obsessing over me and watch the games.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
Quit obsessing over me and watch the games, stalker.
Go fuck yourself, you disparage me and I so tell you to STFU. You've always been the projector when it comes to me and you know it. You want me to shut up then just shut up for once in your pathetic debate losin life.
What do you know, I teach you the concept of "projection" and you start to use it as if you know what.it means. Stop obsessing over me and watch the games.
While I am sure there certain things about your chosen profession. You think I never heard of the concept of projection? You taught me?
God what an arrogant fuck you must be in real life.
Blow me already, watch this.
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Pass interference my ass. Buckeyes got a gimmie there.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
Quit obsessing over me and watch the games, stalker.
Go fuck yourself, you disparage me and I so tell you to STFU. You've always been the projector when it comes to me and you know it. You want me to shut up then just shut up for once in your pathetic debate losin life.
What do you know, I teach you the concept of "projection" and you start to use it as if you know what.it means. Stop obsessing over me and watch the games.
While I am sure there certain things about your chosen profession. You think I never heard of the concept of projection? You taught me?
God what an arrogant fuck you must be in real life.
Blow me already, watch this.
If you could not swear you could not speak. Quit obsessing over me and watch the games you inarticulate potty mouthed stalker.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
Quit obsessing over me and watch the games, stalker.
Go fuck yourself, you disparage me and I so tell you to STFU. You've always been the projector when it comes to me and you know it. You want me to shut up then just shut up for once in your pathetic debate losin life.
What do you know, I teach you the concept of "projection" and you start to use it as if you know what.it means. Stop obsessing over me and watch the games.
While I am sure there certain things about your chosen profession. You think I never heard of the concept of projection? You taught me?
God what an arrogant fuck you must be in real life.
Blow me already, watch this.
If you could not swear you could not speak. Quit obsessing over me and watch the games you inarticulate potty mouthed stalker.
I'll stick with blow me.
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Big loss for the Buckeyes there.
I still hate the targeting rule even though they interpreted the bullshit rule right this time.
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Haskins and his receivers seem a little off today. The Huskers secondary players are disrupting the timing well.
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Heyward is a friggin load.
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That... has been one hell of a weird four or five minutes.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
Quit obsessing over me and watch the games, stalker.
Go fuck yourself, you disparage me and I so tell you to STFU. You've always been the projector when it comes to me and you know it. You want me to shut up then just shut up for once in your pathetic debate losin life.
What do you know, I teach you the concept of "projection" and you start to use it as if you know what.it means. Stop obsessing over me and watch the games.
While I am sure there certain things about your chosen profession. You think I never heard of the concept of projection? You taught me?
God what an arrogant fuck you must be in real life.
Blow me already, watch this.
If you could not swear you could not speak. Quit obsessing over me and watch the games you inarticulate potty mouthed stalker.
I'll stick with blow me.
Interesting. How long have you had these homosexual fantasies about me? Not that there is anything wrong with that, and not that I am not honored, but I am not interested. Though that does explain those stalking issues of yours.
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We don’t really pay Venables’ “get back” coach $400K (that I know of), but it seemed funny to me at the time and the right number in My Perfect World.
Vegas is mind-blowing even with big numbers, still astounded after all these years, our number -39.5, against a league opponent, nuts.
We are right on it now, don’t suspect Petrino will be fired this year, but consider his seat warm going forward.
Epic beatdowns are punishing on a fan base.
CLEM pulling a CLEM vs. WVU and then less-unpredictably vs. ALA in the GA dome are permanently configured in the clemfan hardware.
But the party has started in Def Valley (non-bayou)...Dexter Lawrence’s turn to punch in a short yardage TD, a role ordinarily filled by top-5 CLEM player of all time Christian Wilkins.
Christian is a smart guy, real smart, like up for awards, I forget, but also a rare leader.
His taking TLAW to breakfast shortly after KB left and saying that he, and the D, had his back is now the stuff of legend, as ordinary an act as that might appear.
As a guy who still worried that there could be a racial division over Dabo’s decision, that move was reassuring to say the least. It could have derailed a less-successful or different group of kids, maybe, or maybe the kids don’t think that way anymore.
Christian Wilkins doesn’t, and maybe he’s just smart and just a leader, but I really doubt it.
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A once beaten non-SEC champ Alabama is in the playoffs.
...whether they deserve to be in or not?
An unbeaten Clemson and an unbeaten Notre Dame would certainly be in and a 1 loss Michigan team would be just as if not more deserving than a one loss Alabama non conference champion.
But you are probably right, because after all it's Alabama. So far the committee approach has been a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.
I've been raggin on the Commitee from day 1 so you'll get little argument from me about their approach and so-called 'rules'.
But,
The two best teams in the country played in the final last year. Both were from the SEC.
Of course granted that is just one incredibly intelligent and perceptive persons opinion yes. But I also think the majority of the folks out there agree if they are completely honest about it. Some albeit grudgingly I suppose.
But I'm jus sayin. …
BTW anyone have an opinion of 4-3 Iowa State being in at #24?
Because 8n cap land, there are only two types of people: those who agree with him and those who are not "completely honest".
You know you really whine about me way too much for a grown up man. I mean it's really not my fault you aren't bright enough to win a discussion.
No, it is your fault for thinking it is possible to "win" a discussion. And for failing to see the contradiction between that concept and "Have you ever considered simply using the phrase "we disagree".
There is no fault in thinking winning is possible our type of 'discussion'? What fucking planet do you live on? You make them a war every fucking time.
And once again, I've used the we disagree phrase on you more than once. And every time you have made me see that trying that with you is futile. The only thing you understand is getting whupped. And even after that event you are seldom bright enough to understand you've just morphed into a walker once again.
Quit obsessing over me and watch the games, stalker.
Go fuck yourself, you disparage me and I so tell you to STFU. You've always been the projector when it comes to me and you know it. You want me to shut up then just shut up for once in your pathetic debate losin life.
What do you know, I teach you the concept of "projection" and you start to use it as if you know what.it means. Stop obsessing over me and watch the games.
While I am sure there certain things about your chosen profession. You think I never heard of the concept of projection? You taught me?
God what an arrogant fuck you must be in real life.
Blow me already, watch this.
If you could not swear you could not speak. Quit obsessing over me and watch the games you inarticulate potty mouthed stalker.
I'll stick with blow me.
Interesting. How long have you had these homosexual fantasies about me? Not that there is anything wrong with that, and not that I am not honored, but I am not interested. Though that does explain those stalking issues of yours.
You are a real piece of work I'll give you that. Your name must've been Grimm in a past life as you are really good at making up fairy tales. No pun intended.
If this place didn't crash all the time the actual reality you stalking of me would be well documented. You're fucking obcessed with me. Anyone that has been paying attention knows the truth though.
As to the other you suck so much in your debating skills I just naturally figured that was your preference.
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We don’t really pay Venables’ “get back” coach $400K (that I know of), but it seemed funny to me at the time and the right number in My Perfect World.
Vegas is mind-blowing even with big numbers, still astounded after all these years, our number -39.5, against a league opponent, nuts.
We are right on it now, don’t suspect Petrino will be fired this year, but consider his seat warm going forward.
Epic beatdowns are punishing on a fan base.
CLEM pulling a CLEM vs. WVU and then less-unpredictably vs. ALA in the GA dome are permanently configured in the clemfan hardware.
But the party has started in Def Valley (non-bayou)...Dexter Lawrence’s turn to punch in a short yardage TD, a role ordinarily filled by top-5 CLEM player of all time Christian Wilkins.
Christian is a smart guy, real smart, like up for awards, I forget, but also a rare leader.
His taking TLAW to breakfast shortly after KB left and saying that he, and the D, had his back is now the stuff of legend, as ordinary an act as that might appear.
As a guy who still worried that there could be a racial division over Dabo’s decision, that move was reassuring to say the least. It could have derailed a less-successful or different group of kids, maybe, or maybe the kids don’t think that way anymore.
Christian Wilkins doesn’t, and maybe he’s just smart and just a leader, but I really doubt it.
Clemson is a friggin a machine today on both sides of the ball.
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As long as ALA & CLEM continue to roll, there’s no telling the real diff between the unbeatens, but it starts to look real interesting, we’re probably +9.5 right now.
Don’t know if tonight will tell us much but excited for the best-billed game of all season...
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The more that young QB of Clemson plays JB the better for the Tigers. Clemson's front seven defense continues to impress me.
Tonight tells us if there is any real chinks in that Bama armor.
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Georgia showing they will have to be reckoned with at some point. Kentucky has a good team, just not at the elite level yet. 14 points down they still have a punchers chance.
I have my reservations about the Buckeye defense. I have none however about Michigan's. One of the best DC's in the nation along with Venables.
The Mary Hardin-Baylor Crusaders continue to crush every opponent with consecutive weeks of 80-7 victories.
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LSU +14.5
Under 52.5
Parlay it with the Michigan winnings
Hooooot!
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Definitely getting our asses kicked.
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Penn State and Kentucky proved to be Waaaaaay over rated.
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Penn State and Kentucky proved to be Waaaaaay over rated.
Depends on how one rated them in the first place.
Kentucky has vastly outperformed expectations from the beginning of the year.
As to PSU yes they are a way overrated big ten school along with OSU.
It just goes to show that some SEC elite teams win their games against their lesser conference foes. Whereas some teams like OSU can't handle the likes of Purdue.
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Gus Johnson makes me really love College Football.
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Wow!
West Virginia !
What a Play!
Going for 2?
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What a chess game.
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Unbelievable!
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You’d never see this in pro football.
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Next up. Notre Dame and Northwestern
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And possibly Florida too.
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Penn State and Kentucky proved to be Waaaaaay over rated.
Depends on how one rated them in the first place.
Kentucky has vastly outperformed expectations from the beginning of the year.
As to PSU yes they are a way overrated big ten school along with OSU.
It just goes to show that some SEC elite teams win their games against their lesser conference foes. Whereas some teams like OSU can't handle the likes of Purdue.
A gratuitous OSU dig and an out of context SEC boast! Score!
You should really dig up Silve's grave and get your balls out of his pocket.
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And possibly Florida too.
Possibly Florida what YG?
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Penn State and Kentucky proved to be Waaaaaay over rated.
Depends on how one rated them in the first place.
Kentucky has vastly outperformed expectations from the beginning of the year.
As to PSU yes they are a way overrated big ten school along with OSU.
It just goes to show that some SEC elite teams win their games against their lesser conference foes. Whereas some teams like OSU can't handle the likes of Purdue.
A gratuitous OSU dig and an out of context SEC boast! Score!
You should really dig up Silve's grave and get your balls out of his pocket.
Not out of context in any way. That you aren't bright enough to make the connection is simply par for your mental capabilities.
Just giving like for like. Twice.
Stop whining already. Take your own advice and watch the game.
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More bullshit targeting. Call could go either way.
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Perfect assessment by Danielson, 'it's almost impossible to play in the secondary these days when the receiver ducks'.
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He was also right in saying that dbs need to bring their arms into play.
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I don't know that.i would spend much effort trying to go East - West.against LSU's or Alabama's defense.
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He was also right in saying that dbs need to bring their arms into play.
Agreed.
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Burrow is a very savvy guy.
47 Miller for Bama is going to be a problem.
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Ian Book be the Man!
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Kingsbury is not the brightest in the Strategy Department
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Oklahoma outlasts.
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Michigan/Oklahoma
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Gardner Minshew!
Best ever grad transfer qb!
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Oklahoma outlasts.
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Michigan/Oklahoma
You need to shoehorn Georgia in there.
As much as I would hate to see it, I would love to see Meatchicken defense against Alabama's offense. I am aware of what appears to be a contradiction in that sentence.
Did not see the Texas v WVU game but... when how the hell does a receiver get behind the defense with 20 seconds left when a field goal doesn't help?
We finally broke the yankguy curse! Now, to take on the driver curse. For one week I join cap and the other knee jerk haters.
Of the likely top 4 for the Committee - Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, Meatchicken - Notre Dame has not looked really impressive since, well, game 1.
Next five: Georgia, Oklahoma, Morgantown City College, Palouse Tech, tOSU. Only Georgia really impressed.
A possible poll question: Who has the prettier hair: Chase Winovich or Trevor Lawrence?
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And possibly Florida too.
Possibly Florida what YG?
In the wayyyyy overrated category.
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Oklahoma outlasts.
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Michigan/Oklahoma
You need to shoehorn Georgia in there.
As much as I would hate to see it, I would love to see Meatchicken defense against Alabama's offense. I am aware of what appears to be a contradiction in that sentence.
Did not see the Texas v WVU game but... when how the hell does a receiver get behind the defense with 20 seconds left when a field goal doesn't help?
We finally broke the yankguy curse! Now, to take on the driver curse. For one week I join cap and the other knee jerk haters.
Of the likely top 4 for the Committee - Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, Meatchicken - Notre Dame has not looked really impressive since, well, game 1.
Next five: Georgia, Oklahoma, Morgantown City College, Palouse Tech, tOSU. Only Georgia really impressed.
A possible poll question: Who has the prettier hair: Chase Winovich or Trevor Lawrence?
You just can't leave me out of it can you. Who's the stalker? LOL
Oh well, I'll have to live with your obsession with me as long as you also have something useful to say and don't get too nasty about it.
I too would love to see Bama's offense against the Michigan defense. I think the Tide would handle them but I'd still like to see it. And by the same token I'd like to see the Wolverine offense against the Bama defense.
Good point about the Mountaineer receiver. That's about as bad as it gets.
Georgia/Bama #2 (AKA the SEC CG) will be interesting. Some would argue that Bama would be coming off the tougher game what with the war they'll have against the Eagle. But Georgia vs the Wreck is always a physically taxing game too I think. The cut blocking bassids.
I see ND as a team that plays just hard enough to win each week. Are they elite? I dunno, like you said I've only seen them play really hard all game long just once this year. Syracuse is a bad fit for them both offensively and defensively I think.
OSU is an enigma. Are they also Notre Dameish with their game efforts? Too much talent for them to be looking that bad on defense week after week that is for sure. But they remind me of ND. They're sure to move up to at least #8 this week though. Does UCF crack the Top 10 or does W. Va leapfrog over them?
I see three solid elite teams and a couple right on the edge.
I keep going back to UCF and trying to figure if they have a rat's ass chance. And try as I might I can't come up with a single feasible jumble for them to make it. Man would I love to see them play LSU or Georgia though in a bowl game. Too bad that probably won't happen either.
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And possibly Florida too.
Possibly Florida what YG?
In the wayyyyy overrated category.
Right now I have to agree with you if you're taking about the first Football Playoff rankings. But I think just about everybody knew they were going to lose to Georgia.
As to preseason expectations though I think they're right where they should be at 7-3. I think the Georgia game took the fight out of them. But if they finish at 10-3 it is probably just about what was expected of them. Same for Kentucky. In fact I think it is safe to say that at this point they have exceeded preseason expectations. If someone would have told me at the beginning of the year that the Wildcats had a shot to go 11-2 I probably would have laughed at them.
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New Rule: UVA must play Iowa State to see who the real “white meat” is...this comment a reference to UVA being snobs/pansies uttered famously by Frank Howard, the CLEM legend coach (prior to integration lest you think it’s coded somehow...).
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Does Church’s silk have a bowl (did they ever)??
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Iowa St would be my pick to win that game. Not that I'd watch it.
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Oklahoma outlasts.
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Michigan/Oklahoma
You need to shoehorn Georgia in there.
I have factored in a Georgia loss to Alabama
Did not see the Texas v WVU but... when how the hell does a receiver get behind the defense with 20 seconds left when a field goal is not in play?
Hey, that was a hell of a pitch and catch. Going for two was the story of the game but the decision wasn’t all that surprising since neither team had a a defense to count on. Well, it is the Big 12.
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Oklahoma outlasts.
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Michigan/Oklahoma
You need to shoehorn Georgia in there.
As much as I would hate to see it, I would love to see Meatchicken defense against Alabama's offense. I am aware of what appears to be a contradiction in that sentence.
Did not see the Texas v WVU game but... when how the hell does a receiver get behind the defense with 20 seconds left when a field goal doesn't help?
We finally broke the yankguy curse! Now, to take on the driver curse. For one week I join cap and the other knee jerk haters.
Of the likely top 4 for the Committee - Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, Meatchicken - Notre Dame has not looked really impressive since, well, game 1.
Next five: Georgia, Oklahoma, Morgantown City College, Palouse Tech, tOSU. Only Georgia really impressed.
A possible poll question: Who has the prettier hair: Chase Winovich or Trevor Lawrence?
You just can't leave me out of it can you. Who's the stalker? LOL
Oh well, I'll have to live with your obsession with me as long as you also have something useful to say and don't get too nasty about it.
I too would love to see Bama's offense against the Michigan defense. I think the Tide would handle them but I'd still like to see it. And by the same token I'd like to see the Wolverine offense against the Bama defense.
I don't think Meatchicken has anything like the speed Alabama has. More offense than LSU, so they should get a score or two. But I would rather see a high power offense like ClemSIN against them.
Good point about the Mountaineer receiver. That's about as bad as it gets.
Georgia/Bama #2 (AKA the SEC CG) will be interesting. Some would argue that Bama would be coming off the tougher game what with the war they'll have against the Eagle. But Georgia vs the Wreck is always a physically taxing game too I think. The cut blocking bassids.
I see ND as a team that plays just hard enough to win each week. Are they elite? I dunno, like you said I've only seen them play really hard all game long just once this year. Syracuse is a bad fit for them both offensively and defensively I think.
OSU is an enigma. Are they also Notre Dameish with their game efforts? Too much talent for them to be looking that bad on defense week after week that is for sure. But they remind me of ND. They're sure to move up to at least #8 this week though. Does UCF crack the Top 10 or does W. Va leapfrog over them?
OSU's defense has been a huge disappointment. Bosa cannot make that much of a difference.
"Leapfrogging" is sort of poll thinking. Each week is supposed to be independent of prior placement. WVU pulled out a close win over a good Texas team.
I see three solid elite teams and a couple right on the edge.
Well, I do not think there is a third team on the Bama or ClemSIN level.
I keep going back to UCF and trying to figure if they have a rat's ass chance. And try as I might I can't come up with a single feasible jumble for them to make it. Man would I love to see them play LSU or Georgia though in a bowl game. Too bad that probably won't happen either.
Well, who drew the short straw for the gang of five team this year? Espn probably knows.
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Will it be Mary-Hardin Baylor vs Mount Union Part II in Div III?
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The sh!tty thing will be watching ND get sh!thammered while a 2 loss Ugga sits @5, but it’s also unavoidable.
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The sh!tty thing will be watching ND get sh!thammered while a 2 loss Ugga sits @5, but it’s also unavoidable.
Cuse will take care of the Irish.
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Of the likely top 4 for the Committee - Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, Meatchicken - Notre Dame has not looked really impressive since, well, game 1.
HaHa. What other top four team has a win to match Notre Dame’s win in game 1?
Well, who drew the short straw for the gang of five team this year? Espn probably knows.
UCF. Fiesta Bowl against LSU.
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Of the likely top 4 for the Committee - Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, Meatchicken - Notre Dame has not looked really impressive since, well, game 1.
HaHa. What other top four team has a win to match Notre Dame’s win in game 1?
Alabama, as of Saturday.
Well, who drew the short straw for the gang of five team this year? Espn probably knows.
UCF. Fiesta Bowl against LSU.
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I teach you the concept of "projection"
Yeah, that might have been a stretch. Anyone that's ever been to counseling or read a book on psychology or ever watched movies probably has been exposed to that.
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Of the likely top 4 for the Committee - Alabama, ClemSIN, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, Meatchicken - Notre Dame has not looked really impressive since, well, game 1.
HaHa. What other top four team has a win to match Notre Dame’s win in game 1?
Alabama, as of Saturday.
Wrong. Only Notre Dame.
Well, who drew the short straw for the gang of five team this year? Espn probably knows.
UCF. Fiesta Bowl against LSU.
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I teach you the concept of "projection"
Yeah, that might have been a stretch. Anyone that's ever been to counseling or read a book on psychology or ever watched movies probably has been exposed to that.
I saw all the Marx Brothers movies.
Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia
Oh! Lydia, the tattooed lady
She has eyes that folks adore so
And a torso even more so
Lydia, oh! Lydia, that "Encyclopedia"
Oh! Lydia, the Queen of tattoo
On her back is the Battle of Waterloo
Beside it the Wreck of the Hesperus too
And proudly above the waves
The Red, White and Blue
You can learn a lot from Lydia
She can give you a view of the world
In tattoo if you step up and tell her where
For a dime you can see Kankakee or Paree
Or Washington crossing the Delaware
Oh! Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia
Oh! Lydia, the tattooed lady
When her muscles start relaxin'
Up the hill comes Andrew Jackson
Lydia, oh! Lydia, that "Encyclopedia"
Oh! Lydia, the champ of them all
Now that is “ projection” to me.
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So once again, does W.Va hop over UCF tomorrow in the CFPR or not?
They've already done so as I thought they would in the Coaches and AP. Will the committee do the same?
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I teach you the concept of "projection"
Yeah, that might have been a stretch. Anyone that's ever been to counseling or read a book on psychology or ever watched movies probably has been exposed to that.
I saw all the Marx Brothers movies.
Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia
Oh! Lydia, the tattooed lady
She has eyes that folks adore so
And a torso even more so
Lydia, oh! Lydia, that "Encyclopedia"
Oh! Lydia, the Queen of tattoo
On her back is the Battle of Waterloo
Beside it the Wreck of the Hesperus too
And proudly above the waves
The Red, White and Blue
You can learn a lot from Lydia
She can give you a view of the world
In tattoo if you step up and tell her where
For a dime you can see Kankakee or Paree
Or Washington crossing the Delaware
Oh! Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia
Oh! Lydia, the tattooed lady
When her muscles start relaxin'
Up the hill comes Andrew Jackson
Lydia, oh! Lydia, that "Encyclopedia"
Oh! Lydia, the champ of them all
Now that is “ projection” to me.
I always liked that song.
Can you do "Captain Spaulding" next?
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I teach you the concept of "projection"
Yeah, that might have been a stretch. Anyone that's ever been to counseling or read a book on psychology or ever watched movies probably has been exposed to that.
I saw all the Marx Brothers movies.
Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia
Oh! Lydia, the tattooed lady
She has eyes that folks adore so
And a torso even more so
Lydia, oh! Lydia, that "Encyclopedia"
Oh! Lydia, the Queen of tattoo
On her back is the Battle of Waterloo
Beside it the Wreck of the Hesperus too
And proudly above the waves
The Red, White and Blue
You can learn a lot from Lydia
She can give you a view of the world
In tattoo if you step up and tell her where
For a dime you can see Kankakee or Paree
Or Washington crossing the Delaware
Oh! Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia
Oh! Lydia, the tattooed lady
When her muscles start relaxin'
Up the hill comes Andrew Jackson
Lydia, oh! Lydia, that "Encyclopedia"
Oh! Lydia, the champ of them all
Now that is “ projection” to me.
I always liked that song.
Can you do "Captain Spaulding" next?
The African explorer?
I propose.the following as the official Elba CFB Forum theme song:
[WAGSTAFF]
I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway
Whatever it is, I'm against it
No matter what it is or who commenced it
I'm against it
Your proposition may be good
But let's have one thing understood:
Whatever it is, I'm against it
And even when you've changed it or condensed it
I'm against it
I'm opposed to it
On general principles, I'm opposed to it
[STUDENTS]
He's opposed to it
In fact, indeed, he's opposed to it
[WAGSTAFF]
For months before my son was born
I used to yell from night till morn
"Whatever it is, I'm against it."
And I've been yelling since I first commenced it
I'm against it.
Note that it has special import to us since it is from the greatest movie ever made about college football, Horsefeathers.
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IMO the first half of Horse Feathers is the funniest work of the Marx Brothers.
fwiw Huxley versus Faber would be a classic game.
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I saw all the Marx Brothers movies.
I always liked that song.
Can you do "Captain Spaulding" next?
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I cannot stay.
I must be going.
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IMO the first half of Horse Feathers is the funniest work of the Marx Brothers.
fwiw Huxley versus Faber would be a classic game.
I opt for Duck Soup myself, though Horsefeathers has my favorite Marxist aphorism: "You're a disgrace to our family name of Wagstaff... If such a thing is possible."
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I teach you the concept of "projection"
Yeah, that might have been a stretch. Anyone that's ever been to counseling or read a book on psychology or ever watched movies probably has been exposed to that.
I saw all the Marx Brothers movies.
Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia
Oh! Lydia, the tattooed lady
She has eyes that folks adore so
And a torso even more so
Lydia, oh! Lydia, that "Encyclopedia"
Oh! Lydia, the Queen of tattoo
On her back is the Battle of Waterloo
Beside it the Wreck of the Hesperus too
And proudly above the waves
The Red, White and Blue
You can learn a lot from Lydia
She can give you a view of the world
In tattoo if you step up and tell her where
For a dime you can see Kankakee or Paree
Or Washington crossing the Delaware
Oh! Lydia, oh! Lydia, say have you met Lydia
Oh! Lydia, the tattooed lady
When her muscles start relaxin'
Up the hill comes Andrew Jackson
Lydia, oh! Lydia, that "Encyclopedia"
Oh! Lydia, the champ of them all
Now that is “ projection” to me.
I always liked that song.
Can you do "Captain Spaulding" next?
The African explorer?
I propose.the following as the official Elba CFB Forum theme song:
[WAGSTAFF]
I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway
Whatever it is, I'm against it
No matter what it is or who commenced it
I'm against it
Your proposition may be good
But let's have one thing understood:
Whatever it is, I'm against it
And even when you've changed it or condensed it
I'm against it
I'm opposed to it
On general principles, I'm opposed to it
[STUDENTS]
He's opposed to it
In fact, indeed, he's opposed to it
[WAGSTAFF]
For months before my son was born
I used to yell from night till morn
"Whatever it is, I'm against it."
And I've been yelling since I first commenced it
I'm against it.
Note that it has special import to us since it is from the greatest movie ever made about college football, Horsefeathers.
Yeah, I'd go with that.
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IMO the first half of Horse Feathers is the funniest work of the Marx Brothers.
fwiw Huxley versus Faber would be a classic game.
I opt for Duck Soup myself, though Horsefeathers has my favorite Marxist aphorism: "You're a disgrace to our family name of Wagstaff... If such a thing is possible."
I think Duck Soup was their best movie, and is my favroite, but IMO the first half of HF was their funniest (LOL) work.
And Huxley versus Freedonia A&M would also be a helluva game.
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IMO the first half of Horse Feathers is the funniest work of the Marx Brothers.
fwiw Huxley versus Faber would be a classic game.
I opt for Duck Soup myself, though Horsefeathers has my favorite Marxist aphorism: "You're a disgrace to our family name of Wagstaff... If such a thing is possible."
I think Duck Soup was their best movie, and is my favroite, but IMO the first half of HF was their funniest (LOL) work.
And Huxley versus Freedonia A&M would also be a helluva game.
Ba k in the day, when I was resident of NE Buckeye State, I used to drive by SUNY Fredonia with some frequency. And could never do so without mentally singing Hail Freedonia.
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True interesting fact: Saturday's win over Maryland was Michigan State's 700th win. Alabama's win over LSU was Alabama's 900th win. Making us a precisely calculated 7/9th as good as Alabama.
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Hooray, Hooray, Hooray
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Huzzah!!!
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MSU a +3.5 homedog vs. tosu, hmmmmm...
CLEM -20.5 @BC, in they can't all be blowouts theory...I like BC here, surely TLAW has a couple of picks in him to keep it interesting...
Nevermind, I like us big.
COCK only getting 6.5 in Gainsville vs. Rodney FLORangerfeld...
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I would bet.against us. I've seen our offense.
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I've seen OSU's defense. Your guys have a definite shot.
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So how many teams control their own destiny for the Football Four?
I'm thinking five, looking at what the Committee seems to be indicating. Maybe six.
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So how many teams control their own destiny for the Football Four?
I'm thinking five, looking at what the Committee seems to be indicating. Maybe six.
Despite being 4, I do not think Meatchicken controls its destiny. A once beaten Alabama might stay above.them and a one loss God's Conference Champ Georgia leapfrog them.
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I like us big
COCK
You might want to start proof reading before hitting post
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So how many teams control their own destiny for the Football Four?
I'm thinking five, looking at what the Committee seems to be indicating. Maybe six.
Despite being 4, I do not think Meatchicken controls its destiny. A once beaten Alabama might stay above.them and a one loss God's Conference Champ Georgia leapfrog them.
Good point, I hadn't considered Bama losing.
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So how many teams control their own destiny for the Football Four?
I'm thinking five, looking at what the Committee seems to be indicating. Maybe six.
Despite being 4, I do not think Meatchicken controls its destiny. A once beaten Alabama might stay above.them and a one loss God's Conference Champ Georgia leapfrog them.
Disagree.
If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
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If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
This is the same point I made last week. I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee. If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.
I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.
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So how many teams control their own destiny for the Football Four?
I'm thinking five, looking at what the Committee seems to be indicating. Maybe six.
Despite being 4, I do not think Meatchicken controls its destiny. A once beaten Alabama might stay above.them and a one loss God's Conference Champ Georgia leapfrog them.
Good point, I hadn't considered Bama losing.
Can't imagine why.
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So how many teams control their own destiny for the Football Four?
I'm thinking five, looking at what the Committee seems to be indicating. Maybe six.
Despite being 4, I do not think Meatchicken controls its destiny. A once beaten Alabama might stay above.them and a one loss God's Conference Champ Georgia leapfrog them.
Disagree.
If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
You may have lost count of your negatives.
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If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
This is the same point I made last week. I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee. If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.
I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.
I suspect this point will come up later, but I think the committee has done as good a job as humanly possible in setting the playoffs each year. Even where I disagree, the Committee has at least been consistent and I have understood its rationale.
The thing is, the Committee is charged with first, determining which team is better based upon their over all resume. Only where two teams are substantially equal in their over all resumes does the committee afford special status to things like head to head or conference championships. That is why two years in a row the Committee has elevated a one loss non-champ over a two loss champ: the resume of a two loss Power 5 team is not equal to that of a one loss Power 5 team in the Committee's eyes. But if, say. Alabama loses in its Conference Championship game, you compare them as a one loss team to, say, Michigan as a one loss team. Since Michigan's Conference Championship does not gain significance unless the Committee determines they are substantially equal, the Committee could look at Alabama's overall resume and decide that they were simply the better team. It is certainly a rational argument, based on how dominant they have been both offensively and defensively, while Michigan has not been as dominant, and only defensively.
But as you say, if the Committee does that I suspect at least the Big 12, the Big 10 and the PAC would start lobbying for alternatives.
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If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
This is the same point I made last week. I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee. If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.
I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.
I suspect this point will come up later, but I think the committee has done as good a job as humanly possible in setting the playoffs each year. Even where I disagree, the Committee has at least been consistent and I have understood its rationale.
The thing is, the Committee is charged with first, determining which team is better based upon their over all resume.
And Michigan’s resume(if it is 11-1B1G Champion) can only be topped by an undefeated Alabama, Clemson, or Notre Dame. Michigan rises above any or all of them with a loss by any or all of them.
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If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
This is the same point I made last week. I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee. If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.
I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.
I suspect this point will come up later, but I think the committee has done as good a job as humanly possible in setting the playoffs each year. Even where I disagree, the Committee has at least been consistent and I have understood its rationale.
The thing is, the Committee is charged with first, determining which team is better based upon their over all resume.
And Michigan’s resume(if it is 11-1B1G Champion) can only be topped by an undefeated Alabama, Clemson, or Notre Dame. Michigan rises above any or all of them with a loss by any or all of them.
We disagree.
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So how many teams control their own destiny for the Football Four?
I'm thinking five, looking at what the Committee seems to be indicating. Maybe six.
Despite being 4, I do not think Meatchicken controls its destiny. A once beaten Alabama might stay above.them and a one loss God's Conference Champ Georgia leapfrog them.
Good point, I hadn't considered Bama losing.
Can't imagine why.
Yep.
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If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
This is the same point I made last week. I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee. If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.
I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.
I suspect this point will come up later, but I think the committee has done as good a job as humanly possible in setting the playoffs each year. Even where I disagree, the Committee has at least been consistent and I have understood its rationale.
The thing is, the Committee is charged with first, determining which team is better based upon their over all resume.
And Michigan’s resume(if it is 11-1B1G Champion) can only be topped by an undefeated Alabama, Clemson, or Notre Dame. Michigan rises above any or all of them with a loss by any or all of them.
I think Bama is the only team safe to say will still be a lock to be above Michigan if it loses to say Auburn yet beats Georgia for the SEC title. Clemson would be IMO a 60-40 favorite over Michigan if they came to the dance at a one loss ACC Champ. ND IMO falls right off the F4 map completely if they lose a game. Again my opinion.
But what if ND loses? It could/should(Since ND has no Title game to bolster it) open the door for the PAC and B12 one loss champs.
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If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
This is the same point I made last week. I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee. If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.
I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.
I suspect this point will come up later, but I think the committee has done as good a job as humanly possible in setting the playoffs each year. Even where I disagree, the Committee has at least been consistent and I have understood its rationale.
The thing is, the Committee is charged with first, determining which team is better based upon their over all resume.
And Michigan’s resume(if it is 11-1B1G Champion) can only be topped by an undefeated Alabama, Clemson, or Notre Dame. Michigan rises above any or all of them with a loss by any or all of them.
We disagree.
LOL
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If Michigan and Notre Dame win out (Clemson,too)then neither a one loss Alabama or a one loss Georgia can’t be ranked ahead of Michigan.
This is the same point I made last week. I don't think I said they "can't be" because I don't have a lot of faith in the committee. If they put in a one loss non conference champ before a one loss power five conference champion (Michigan), I suspect the committee would lose support from at least 3 of the 5 conferences.
I guess they will get crap either way and I'm sure they are praying Alabama does not lose before the title game so they don't have to face that choice.
I suspect this point will come up later, but I think the committee has done as good a job as humanly possible in setting the playoffs each year. Even where I disagree, the Committee has at least been consistent and I have understood its rationale.
The thing is, the Committee is charged with first, determining which team is better based upon their over all resume.
And Michigan’s resume(if it is 11-1B1G Champion) can only be topped by an undefeated Alabama, Clemson, or Notre Dame. Michigan rises above any or all of them with a loss by any or all of them.
I think Bama is the only team safe to say will still be a lock to be above Michigan if it loses to say Auburn yet beats Georgia for the SEC title. Clemson would be IMO a 70-30 favorite over Michigan if they came to the dance at a one loss ACC Champ. ND IMO falls right off the F4 map completely if they lose a game. Again my opinion.
If Alabama or ClemSIN are conference champs, they are in the playoffs. The question is more, how do they treat them if they do not win the conference title. By the consistent precedent the Committee has employed, they would get in over any two loss champion. But what if Albama loses to Georgia and there are no two loss champs?,I have been using Meatchicken, but the question might get closer if the Big Whatever champ is tOSU. Or if the one loss champ it is compared to is Washington State.
But what if ND loses? It could/should(Since ND has no Title game to bolster it) open the door for the PAC and B12 one loss champs.
A.one loss ND is likely screwed unless there are two two loss champs. Even though they beat Meatchicken head to head.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
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Notre Dame QB Ian Book out vs. Florida State:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25214588/notre-dame-qb-ian-book-vs-florida-state
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
A three loss Notre Dame still has NO effect on Michigan getting into the playoffs.
Only Michigan losses can accomplish that.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
A three loss Notre Dame still has NO effect on Michigan getting into the playoffs.
Only Michigan losses can accomplish that.
We disagree.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
A three loss Notre Dame still has NO effect on Michigan getting into the playoffs.
Only Michigan losses can accomplish that.
We disagree.
I was going to accuse Red ESPN of poll thinking and point out the committee reevaluated teams.each week, so a comparison between Meatchicken and Oklahoma could get dicey if each comes away one loss champs. But then I realized that a loss by Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie means instead of Meatchicken and Oklahoma competing for one spot they would be competing, along with maybe one loss Wash St for two spots. I suspect we all know who is outside looking in under that scenario.
So while you are right a loss by Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie would hurt Meatchickens resume, as a practical matter it would not affect their chances at being in the playoffs, just their possible seeding.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
A three loss Notre Dame still has NO effect on Michigan getting into the playoffs.
Only Michigan losses can accomplish that.
We disagree.
I was going to accuse Red ESPN of poll thinking and point out the committee reevaluated teams.each week, so a comparison between Meatchicken and Oklahoma could get dicey if each comes away one loss champs. But then I realized that a loss by Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie means instead of Meatchicken and Oklahoma competing for one spot they would be competing, along with maybe one loss Wash St for two spots. I suspect we all know who is outside looking in under that scenario.
So while you are right a loss by Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie would hurt Meatchickens resume, as a practical matter it would not affect their chances at being in the playoffs, just their possible seeding.
It's all speculation anyways. But I'd like to see it play out that way just to find out the answer.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.
Again, we disagree.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.
Again, we disagree.
Good. Because your argument makes no sense.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.
Why? Aren't one weeks rankings supposed to be independent of the last? If so, I'd wager an uninspired Michigan win over Rutgers plus a Georgia massacre of Auburn could well switch them.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.
Why? Aren't one weeks rankings supposed to be independent of the last? If so, I'd wager an uninspired Michigan win over Rutgers plus a Georgia massacre of Auburn could well switch them.
Yep.
I've been told this for several years now by some folks here that 'each week's rankings are independent'. Sometimes I think it's a matter of convenience for them to forget what they've said over and over when someone's argument makes no sense.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.
Why? Aren't one weeks rankings supposed to be independent of the last? If so, I'd wager an uninspired Michigan win over Rutgers plus a Georgia massacre of Auburn could well switch them.
Not if Notre Dame wins.
And Not if Notre Dame losesn because Michigan still has the better resume over Georgia. The Bulldogs would be in the final four, though. See WhiskeyPriest’s post.
Michigan won’t be hurt by a Notre Dame loss. But Georgia(and Alabama) is hoping the Irish fall.
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So to be clear it's your argument that as long as Notre Dame and Michigan keep winning (no matter what kind of win it is) there's no way for Georgia to leap Michigan. I don't believe the committee thinks that way but you may be right.
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A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.
Why? Aren't one weeks rankings supposed to be independent of the last? If so, I'd wager an uninspired Michigan win over Rutgers plus a Georgia massacre of Auburn could well switch them.
The Committee has said the gap between Meatchicken and Georgia is razor thin, so yes the two could.easily switch places. But unless.Georgia beats Alabama, they would not finish ahead of a one loss Big Whatever team. And if they do Alabama becomes the issue for Meatchicken.
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I don't believe the committee thinks that way
And you would be correct...at least by what they have told us.
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To Quote Margaret Hamilton, "What a World, What a World..."
Matt Fink
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Joseph Lewis
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Jacob Daniel
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Tayler Katoa
Jack Jones
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So to be clear it's your argument that as long as Notre Dame and Michigan keep winning (no matter what kind of win it is) there's no way for Georgia to leap Michigan.
That is not my argument but I would agree with that.
I don't believe the committee thinks that way but you may be right.
I think unless Michigan loses it is in the playoff no matter what other teams above or below them do.
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The Committee has said the gap between Meatchicken and Georgia is razor thin, so yes the two could.easily switch places. But unless.Georgia beats Alabama, they would not finish ahead of a one loss Big Whatever team. And if they do Alabama becomes the issue for Meatchicken.
This discussion began after Cargo maintained a Notre Dame loss would hurt Michigan.
As you pointed out, more succinctly than me, a Notre Dame loss HELPS Michigan make the playoffs.
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The Committee has said the gap between Meatchicken and Georgia is razor thin, so yes the two could.easily switch places. But unless.Georgia beats Alabama, they would not finish ahead of a one loss Big Whatever team. And if they do Alabama becomes the issue for Meatchicken.
This discussion began after Cargo maintained a Notre Dame loss would hurt Michigan.
As you pointed out, more succinctly than me, a Notre Dame loss HELPS Michigan make the playoffs.
It eliminates ND sure. But two or especially three losses by them hurts Michigan. It hurts that 'signature loss'(I just invented that) that they currently sport. Coupled with if they have lackluster wins possibly including barely beating an OSU team with possibly two losses.(OSU ends up with three losses)
Yankguy could see the possible BIG picture. You can't. He understood what was being said and thus his week by week comment.
Say if Georgia beats Alabama in the SEC CG, yet still Bama could very well still be in and in ahead of Michigan. I believe Steve has mentioned this several times that Bama could still be in though not the seeding part.
Now, attend Weedhopper. Say Oklahoma blitzes every opponent they face from now on. So Oklahoma looks very new shiny at the end. Add Texas wins the rest of their games, including beating current Committee darling ISU. Now ND and Texas sport identical 9-3 records. Then reference words ascending and descending, add that info to the mix.
Recap: Okie hot, Texas hot. Notre Dame not, Michigan winning but not shiny.(As YG mentioned) Or, simply think, New hottie. Old busted hottie.(MIB)
So if these events all take place in a perfect storm, as the Evil Emperor said to Luke Sywalker, you shall pay the price for your lack of vision.
Have I mentioned lately that I crack myself up?
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All of this presupposes that any of us can think like the collective committee and that there is some sort of rational process which they all follow.
When you start with a flawed premise of asking "humans" to decide who the four "best" teams are...you have already put yourself into a tough predicament. They probably can't even agree with what that means.
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... They probably can't even agree with what that means....
Well we can't so why should they be any different Scotty? :-)
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COCKBALL in Gainesville!!
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God but I hope OSU doesn't have to play Alabama or ClemSIN. Fortunately, with that O line, they have no chance of beating Meatchicken.
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God but I hope OSU doesn't have to play Alabama or ClemSIN. Fortunately, with that O line, they have no chance of beating Meatchicken.
In the ever-prescient words of Jim Tressel:
“Championships can be won by the punter!”
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Holy sh!t that was ugly whisk!!
Why did the refs scru you on the trick play??
Y’all are looking at a “competitive” bowl slot. Poulan doesn’t have the weed-eater bowl anymore in Shreveport, but you may want to get in early on that premium La Quinta.
Continental breakfast complementary.
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God but I hope OSU doesn't have to play Alabama or ClemSIN. Fortunately, with that O line, they have no chance of beating Meatchicken.
In the ever-prescient words of Jim Tressel:
“Championships can be won by the punter!”
That game was. Especially since we do not really have one.
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Holy sh!t that was ugly whisk!!
Why did the refs scru you on the trick play??
Y’all are looking at a “competitive” bowl slot. Poulan doesn’t have the weed-eater bowl anymore in Shreveport, but you may want to get in early on that premium La Quinta.
Continental breakfast complementary.
La Quintas are great, if like me you travel with your dog. The most dog friendly hotels outside of Motel 6 which just does not care if your dog urinated on the sheets.
I was reminded of McKay's old joke about his team's execution.
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Go U Northwestern!
Indy Bound!
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Gonna be some trash talk in my family.
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Final Four:
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One mans art is another mans shit, except shit is less presumptive
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except shit is less presumptive
You mean because he has Oklahoma in there? :)
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What I learned this season: SEC refs cheat worse than Pac 12 refs.
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I guess both take their cues from their conference leadership.
Pac 12 refs try to hide their cheating with their ineptitude.
SEC refs just don't care if you notice. They basically dare you to do anything about it.
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Bobby Petrino off to his next adventure.
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Oh...and Kentucky looks like Kansas
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I guess both take their cues from their conference leadership.
Pac 12 refs try to hide their cheating with their ineptitude.
SEC refs just don't care if you notice. They basically dare you to do anything about it.
Uh oh.
Cal must have won.
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Oh...and Kentucky looks like Kansas
Yep.(I'm assuming you mean Kansas of about a decade ago) If so Kansas looks better. If you are referring to having a good team every ten years, maybe yes again. The Jayhawks haven't had a bowl eligible team since 2008 though. Kentucky has had 5 and is looking at #6.
Just waiting to see who they get in their bowl game now. They'll probably finish 9-3 which I doubt anyone was predicting at the beginning of the year. So nice season for them if they can pull off the bowl win.
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Oh...and Kentucky looks like Kansas
Well, it was a costly loss for the Wildcats.
A week ago they were playing for a berth in the SEC Title game which went instead to Georgia.
Losing to Tennessee yesterday cost them the Fiesta Bowl though they could still play on New Year’s Day against Penn State in the Citrus Bowl.
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Uh oh.
Cal must have won.
No specific complaints about last night's calls in our game. But on the way to the game, we heard national announcers making fun of Pac12 officiating...so it has reached that point
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ESPN Stats and Info says Northwestern is the first team in FBS history ( since 1992)to reach a conference championship game despite going winless in nonconference play.
The WildCats lost to Akron, Duke, and Notre Dame. but they’ve
But the have won 10 consecutive division games and 13 of their past 14 Big Ten games.
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Is it just MNF and college hoops on Veterans Day. No disrespect to the troops but there should be more sports today.
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Is it just MNF and college hoops on Veterans Day. No disrespect to the troops but there should be more sports today.
They played a full slate of NFL and NBA games on Veterans Day, which by law is always 11/11. Today is just a makeup day off.
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Don't mire the issue in bureaucratic subterfuge man!!
Can't you see all the people there, yearning, longing for nothing more than what, man, can you see through the haze of your illusions for once??
Sport!!
For the love of SPORT!!
Are such things not dreamt of in your philosophy, laws, laws, he says, sure...
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If defense wins championships how much should the CFP Committee ding Oklahoma for not having much of one?
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If defense wins championships how much should the CFP Committee ding Oklahoma for not having much of one?
Funny you would ask that when you(and others) loudly decried the LSU/Bama defensive battle of a while back.
But now that there is a team from the Big 10 playing stellar defense who is in the mix...
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Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?
Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
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If defense wins championships how much should the CFP Committee ding Oklahoma for not having much of one?
Funny you would ask that when you(and others) loudly decried the LSU/Bama defensive battle of a while back.
But now that there is a team from the Big 10 playing stellar defense who is in the mix...
The Big Ten always has teams in the top in defense. Oklahoma, this is ranked 83rd.
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If defense wins championships how much should the CFP Committee ding Oklahoma for not having much of one?
Funny you would ask that when you(and others) loudly decried the LSU/Bama defensive battle of a while back.
But now that there is a team from the Big 10 playing stellar defense who is in the mix...
Though I have us in the playoffs, i suspect that fourth loss takes us out of the mix in the Committee's eyes.
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Once again, Defense wins Championships. Sometimes. Offenses wins Championships. Sometimes. Being able to play both wins Championships. Usually. See as proof the last three playoffs.
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Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?
Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
Why? Oklahoma won a rivalry game against a pretty good team. WVU beat a down TCU. While each week gets a fresh set of eyes, they see the old data too. And that old data includes an FCS school on WVU's record. If the Committee had Oklahoma ahead after a close one at TT, why change now?
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Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?
Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
Why? Oklahoma won a rivalry game against a pretty good team. WVU beat a down TCU. While each week gets a fresh set of eyes, they see the old data too. And that old data includes an FCS school on WVU's record. If the Committee had Oklahoma ahead after a close one at TT, why change now?
So you think the Oklahoma victory more impressive than the West Va victory, or at least no real margin of difference. Fair enough.
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Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?
Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
Why? Oklahoma won a rivalry game against a pretty good team. WVU beat a down TCU. While each week gets a fresh set of eyes, they see the old data too. And that old data includes an FCS school on WVU's record. If the Committee had Oklahoma ahead after a close one at TT, why change now?
So you think the Oklahoma victory more impressive than the West Va victory, or at least no real margin of difference. Fair enough.
I think over all, the Committee will consider that Oklahoma still possesses the stronger resume.
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Though I have us in the playoffs, i suspect that fourth loss takes us out of the mix in the Committee's eyes.
You never know.
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Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?
Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
Why? Oklahoma won a rivalry game against a pretty good team. WVU beat a down TCU. While each week gets a fresh set of eyes, they see the old data too. And that old data includes an FCS school on WVU's record. If the Committee had Oklahoma ahead after a close one at TT, why change now?
So you think the Oklahoma victory more impressive than the West Va victory, or at least no real margin of difference. Fair enough.
I think over all, the Committee will consider that Oklahoma still possesses the stronger resume.
Well Massey seems to agree with you on that. As does my old buddy Jeffy.
But then you know me and defense.
Oklahoma has given up 298 points as opposed to West Va's 188 points.
Maybe take into consideration that the Cowboy team isn't really showing they are any better more or less than TCU.
But like OSU and Michigan, Oklahoma and West Va will take care of themselves as they will meet later on. In fact the Mountaineers get to go to Cowboytown next week before they meet the Sooners. So like Yankguy suggests we'll tak it week to week.
I was just wondering about everyone's thoughts about 'this' week and any possible notable changes.
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And what about Wash St?
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Looking like no movement so far.
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Washington State may as well be in Missouri
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Remember when everyone thought Mike Leach couldn't turn the miserable Cougars around? Well, maybe not everyone.
Then again you guys whupped em by three points so how good can they be?
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The Committee said no.
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Though I have us in the playoffs, i suspect that fourth loss takes us out of the mix in the Committee's eyes.
You never know.
Yes you do. Somstimes.
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CLEM plays DUKE, and while we will be a big favorite, it’s never fun to play a coach smarter than your entire staff.
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The Committee said no.
Can't get nothin by you Skip.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff)
Pitt did give the Irish a hard time...
Thoughts?
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Remember when everyone thought Mike Leach couldn't turn the miserable Cougars around?
I thought it was a great fit. I love the guy
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Thoughts?
When it was the BCS and they were "considering" a four team playoff, it was obvious the direction this was going. There is no stopping it and there is no satisfying the teams left out on the bubble no matter how many teams get in to a "playoff"
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Thoughts?
When it was the BCS and they were "considering" a four team playoff, it was obvious the direction this was going. There is no stopping it and there is no satisfying the teams left out on the bubble no matter how many teams get in to a "playoff"
Agreed. And the only solution to that would be to have every team in the playoff, which of course doesn't work. Or I guess make a playoff out of the teams in the power conferences which is no more "fair" than it is now.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff)
Pitt did give the Irish a hard time...
Thoughts?
Forget that. How about the real playoffs? You ready for the Battle of the Hardins?
Something about St. John playing Martin Luther resonates.
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Thoughts?
When it was the BCS and they were "considering" a four team playoff, it was obvious the direction this was going. There is no stopping it and there is no satisfying the teams left out on the bubble no matter how many teams get in to a "playoff"
Agreed. And the only solution to that would be to have every team in the playoff, which of course doesn't work. Or I guess make a playoff out of the teams in the power conferences which is no more "fair" than it is now.
If Georgia beats Alabama, and Alabama makes the playoffs over one or more one loss conference champ, we will have an expanded playoff as soon as it can be contractually done.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff)
Pitt did give the Irish a hard time...
Thoughts?
A touching dog-bites-man story.
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Thoughts?
When it was the BCS and they were "considering" a four team playoff, it was obvious the direction this was going. There is no stopping it and there is no satisfying the teams left out on the bubble no matter how many teams get in to a "playoff"
You're right the bubble will always have controversy.
I still think we're heading for an 8 team playoff. I'm not exactly how they will swing it, but I think it's heading that way.
My guess is all the Power Five CG winners(no matter what warts they may or may not have) and three lucky ladies to be fought ov....I mean three more teams to be reasoned in.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff)
Pitt did give the Irish a hard time...
Thoughts?
Forget that. How about the real playoffs? You ready for the Battle of the Hardins?
Something about St. John playing Martin Luther resonates.
The Crusaders will crush the Cowboys same as before. I think the Johnnies have too much O for Knights.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff)
Pitt did give the Irish a hard time...
Thoughts?
Forget that. How about the real playoffs? You ready for the Battle of the Hardins?
Something about St. John playing Martin Luther resonates.
The Crusaders will crush the Cowboys same as before. I think the Johnnies have too much O for Knights.
All to eventually fall to The Mount.
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If Georgia beats Alabama, and Alabama makes the playoffs over one or more one loss conference champ, we will have an expanded playoff as soon as it can be contractually done.
That will happen even if Georgia does not beat Alabama.
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My guess is all the Power Five CG winners(no matter what warts they may or may not have) and three lucky ladies to be fought ov....I mean three more teams to be reasoned in.
Agree on 5 automatic bids for Power 5 champs. I believe they will have to put in at least one automatic for an undefeated Group of 5 Team also--let's just say they would be foolish not to do that. Much of the controversy as of late has been generated by the UCF win streak. Put them in...and all that squawking disappears really quick. That leaves the next two highest ranked teams as at large bids...or in some years three.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25275071/american-athletic-conference-commissioner-rethinks-stance-expanding-playoff)
Pitt did give the Irish a hard time...
Thoughts?
Forget that. How about the real playoffs? You ready for the Battle of the Hardins?
Something about St. John playing Martin Luther resonates.
The Crusaders will crush the Cowboys same as before. I think the Johnnies have too much O for Knights.
All to eventually fall to The Mount.
Not this year.
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My guess is all the Power Five CG winners(no matter what warts they may or may not have) and three lucky ladies to be fought ov....I mean three more teams to be reasoned in.
Agree on 5 automatic bids for Power 5 champs.
Makes no sense
I believe they will have to put in at least one automatic for an undefeated Group of 5 Team also--let's just say they would be foolish not to do that.
Yawn
Much of the controversy as of late has been generated by the UCF win streak.
Double Yawn .. Next to no one gives a shit
Put them in...and all that squawking disappears really quick.
What are you drinking?
That leaves the next two highest ranked teams as at large bids...or in some years three.
In NO years has there ever been a case for more than four teams.
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My guess is all the Power Five CG winners(no matter what warts they may or may not have) and three lucky ladies to be fought ov....I mean three more teams to be reasoned in.
Agree on 5 automatic bids for Power 5 champs.
Makes no sense
I believe they will have to put in at least one automatic for an undefeated Group of 5 Team also--let's just say they would be foolish not to do that.
Yawn
Much of the controversy as of late has been generated by the UCF win streak.
Double Yawn .. Next to no one gives a shit
Put them in...and all that squawking disappears really quick.
What are you drinking?
That leaves the next two highest ranked teams as at large bids...or in some years three.
In NO years has there ever been a case for more than four teams.
Your reading comprehension skills are lacking as usual Skipster. But that's part of your charm.
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Remember when everyone thought Mike Leach couldn't turn the miserable Cougars around?
I thought it was a great fit. I love the guy
Everyone that poo pooed it needs to go stand in a darkly lit control room.
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I don't think anybody here said that Mike Leach couldn't turn Washington State around. Other coaches have won there and Leach has a track record of turning teams around. What was said is that Leach is an SOB, is generally one step ahead of the law and is an arrogant piece of work.
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Seeing you guys are a bunch of college football afficianados, heres a blast from the past.
Its the 50th anniversary of the classic, 1968 "Harvard Beats Yale 29-29" game.
I've posted about ithe game (my dad, a Harvard grad took me to the game) and a subsequent encounter about 25 years after the game with Tommy Lee Jones, who played for Harvard.
Here's a pretty good article from today's Globe about the '68 game.
The 2018 game will be played tomorrow at Fenway Park.
Roll Crimson Sox!
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2018/11/15/years-later-harvard-win-over-yale-still-resonates/8mStl7zcvfydfPvyovRRSN/story.html#comments (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2018/11/15/years-later-harvard-win-over-yale-still-resonates/8mStl7zcvfydfPvyovRRSN/story.html#comments)
The Game, as its followers call it with upper-case reverence, essentially was over. Yale was ahead by two touchdowns with less than four minutes to play and was driving for another.
“We were getting our butts kicked,” Harvard fullback Gus Crim observed.
And suddenly Harvard Stadium turned upside-down as dusk fell in 1968 amid an implausible succession of fumbles, penalties, bounces, and clutch plays that produced the most remarkable outcome in this storied rivalry.
its a pretty good read
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Good stuff. A Harvard-Yale football game would be on my bucket list of athletic events. Kind of a supercharged Bowdoin-Bates game.
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Seeing you guys are a bunch of college football afficianados, heres a blast from the past.
Its the 50th anniversary of the classic, 1968 "Harvard Beats Yale 29-29" game.
I've posted about ithe game (my dad, a Harvard grad took me to the game) and a subsequent encounter about 25 years after the game with Tommy Lee Jones, who played for Harvard.
Here's a pretty good article from today's Globe about the '68 game.
The 2018 game will be played tomorrow at Fenway Park.
Roll Crimson Sox!
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2018/11/15/years-later-harvard-win-over-yale-still-resonates/8mStl7zcvfydfPvyovRRSN/story.html#comments (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2018/11/15/years-later-harvard-win-over-yale-still-resonates/8mStl7zcvfydfPvyovRRSN/story.html#comments)
The Game, as its followers call it with upper-case reverence, essentially was over. Yale was ahead by two touchdowns with less than four minutes to play and was driving for another.
“We were getting our butts kicked,” Harvard fullback Gus Crim observed.
And suddenly Harvard Stadium turned upside-down as dusk fell in 1968 amid an implausible succession of fumbles, penalties, bounces, and clutch plays that produced the most remarkable outcome in this storied rivalry.
its a pretty good read
Fight fiercely, Harvard
fight, fight, fight!
Demonstrate to them our skill
Albeit they possess the might
Nonetheless we have the will
How we shall celebrate our victory
We shall invite the whole team up for tea
(How jolly!)
Hurl that spheroid down the field, and
Fight, fight, fight!
Fight fiercely, Harvard
fight, fight, fight!
Impress them with our prowess, do!
Oh, fellows, do not let the crimson down
Be of stout heart and true
Come on, chaps, fight for Harvard's glorious name
Won't it be peachy if we win the game?
(Oh, goody!)
Let's try not to injure them, but
Fight, fight, fight!
(Let's not be rough though)
And do fight fiercely!
Fight, fight, fight
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Good stuff. A Harvard-Yale football game would be on my bucket list of athletic evens. Kind of a supercharged Bowdoin-Bates game.
it was a great game and an amazing and surreal atmosphere.
While some memories are hazy, as Harvard scored the 2-point conversion, after regular game time had expired, the place exploded, people were hugging, crying, laughing, yellling, it was nuts. SDS students were hugging Daughters of the American Revolution.
And then Harvard Band started playing the school's victory song "10,000 Men of Harvard" and there was a huge sing-a-long.
that song still gives me a buzz.
I think my bucket list on college football, forgive me boz, would be Michigan v tOSU in Columbus, with "Script Ohio" half-time
or maybe Army-Navy in Philly and to get there early enough to see the Cadets march-in
or maybe tomorrow's renewal of the classic: The Citadel at Alabama.
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Michigan---Ohio State is on my list as well, and I had a chance to pay and arm leg to go this year. I turned it down.
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mocking Tom Lehrer?
JFC
for those so inclined
10,000 Men of Harvard performed in concert by the Harvard Band and sung in both Latin and English. (English version. for you slobs not conversant in Latin, kicks in at 3 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x83pyzLZn3c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x83pyzLZn3c)
Ten thousand men of Harvard want vict'ry today,
For they know that o'er old Eli
Fair Harvard holds sway.
So then we'll conquer old Eli's men,
And when the game ends, we'll sing again:
Ten thousand men of Harvard gained vict'ry today!
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Good stuff. A Harvard-Yale football game would be on my bucket list of athletic evens. Kind of a supercharged Bowdoin-Bates game.
it was a great game and an amazing and surreal atmosphere.
While some memories are hazy, as Harvard scored the 2-point conversion, after regular game time had expired, the place exploded, people were hugging, crying, laughing, yellling, it was nuts. SDS students were hugging Daughters of the American Revolution.
And then Harvard Band started playing the school's victory song "10,000 Men of Harvard" and there was a huge sing-a-long.
that song still gives me a buzz.
I think my bucket list on college football, forgive me boz, would be Michigan v tOSU in Columbus, with "Script Ohio" half-time
or maybe Army-Navy in Philly and to get there early enough to see the Cadets march-in
or maybe tomorrow's renewal of the classic: The Citadel at Alabama.
No, that would be great, either at the Shoe for.Script.Ohio - It was.stirring when it was only us and we sucked, against Meatchicken with 100000 screaming people would be amazing - or in the Big Urinal. It would be on my bucket list as well. My #1 is the Rose Bowl, but I think the playoffs have undercut that a bit.
Tom Lehrer, inventor of the Jell-o Shot and author of both the best put down song ever and the best song ever about the periodic table of the elements, is still alive.
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Good stuff. A Harvard-Yale football game would be on my bucket list of athletic evens. Kind of a supercharged Bowdoin-Bates game.
it was a great game and an amazing and surreal atmosphere.
While some memories are hazy, as Harvard scored the 2-point conversion, after regular game time had expired, the place exploded, people were hugging, crying, laughing, yellling, it was nuts. SDS students were hugging Daughters of the American Revolution.
And then Harvard Band started playing the school's victory song "10,000 Men of Harvard" and there was a huge sing-a-long.
that song still gives me a buzz.
I think my bucket list on college football, forgive me boz, would be Michigan v tOSU in Columbus, with "Script Ohio" half-time
or maybe Army-Navy in Philly and to get there early enough to see the Cadets march-in
or maybe tomorrow's renewal of the classic: The Citadel at Alabama.
No, that would be great, either at the Shoe for.Script.Ohio - It was.stirring when it was only us and we sucked, against Meatchicken with 100000 screaming people would be amazing - or in the Big Urinal. It would be on my bucket list as well. My #1 is the Rose Bowl, but I think the playoffs have undercut that a bit.
Tom Lehrer, inventor of the Jell-o Shot and author of both the best put down song ever and the best song ever about the periodic table of the elements, is still alive.
And getting an interview with him is as difficult as getting an interview with J.D. Salinger the last 40 years of his life. Boy I hated "Catcher in the Rye."
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I don't think anybody here said that Mike Leach couldn't turn Washington State around. Other coaches have won there and Leach has a track record of turning teams around. What was said is that Leach is an SOB, is generally one step ahead of the law and is an arrogant piece of work.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/washington-state-we-lost-dollar16-million-in-pledges-after-mike-leach-tweeted-fake-obama-video/ar-BBPMbfX?ocid=ientp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/washington-state-we-lost-dollar16-million-in-pledges-after-mike-leach-tweeted-fake-obama-video/ar-BBPMbfX?ocid=ientp)
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I don't think anybody here said that Mike Leach couldn't turn Washington State around. Other coaches have won there and Leach has a track record of turning teams around. What was said is that Leach is an SOB, is generally one step ahead of the law and is an arrogant piece of work.
:-)
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Seeing you guys are a bunch of college football afficianados, heres a blast from the past.
Its the 50th anniversary of the classic, 1968 "Harvard Beats Yale 29-29" game.
I've posted about ithe game (my dad, a Harvard grad took me to the game) and a subsequent encounter about 25 years after the game with Tommy Lee Jones, who played for Harvard.
Here's a pretty good article from today's Globe about the '68 game.
The 2018 game will be played tomorrow at Fenway Park.
Roll Crimson Sox!
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2018/11/15/years-later-harvard-win-over-yale-still-resonates/8mStl7zcvfydfPvyovRRSN/story.html#comments (https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2018/11/15/years-later-harvard-win-over-yale-still-resonates/8mStl7zcvfydfPvyovRRSN/story.html#comments)
The Game, as its followers call it with upper-case reverence, essentially was over. Yale was ahead by two touchdowns with less than four minutes to play and was driving for another.
“We were getting our butts kicked,” Harvard fullback Gus Crim observed.
And suddenly Harvard Stadium turned upside-down as dusk fell in 1968 amid an implausible succession of fumbles, penalties, bounces, and clutch plays that produced the most remarkable outcome in this storied rivalry.
its a pretty good read
https://youtu.be/9w-DuepzjxI (https://youtu.be/9w-DuepzjxI)
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https://moneywise.com/a/ch-b/worst-stadiums-in-college-football_november2018/p-3?t=These+Are+The+Worst+College+Football+Stadiums (https://moneywise.com/a/ch-b/worst-stadiums-in-college-football_november2018/p-3?t=These+Are+The+Worst+College+Football+Stadiums)
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In NO years has there ever been a case for more than four teams.
Of course, you insisted it would never go to four. So it is not surprising that you can not see the writing on the wall.
If you are saying "should" it, then I would be inclined to agree that it should not. But it will...and it is obvious it will.
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In NO years has there ever been a case for more than four teams.
Of course, you insisted it would never go to four. So it is not surprising that you can not see the writing on the wall.
If you are saying "should" it, then I would be inclined to agree that it should not. But it will...and it is obvious it will.
If you are going to answer a question I never raised at least include the post I wrote.
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If you are going to answer a question I never raised at least include the post I wrote.
That actually made zero sense.
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In NO years has there ever been a case for more than four teams.
Of course, you insisted it would never go to four. So it is not surprising that you can not see the writing on the wall.
If you are saying "should" it, then I would be inclined to agree that it should not. But it will...and it is obvious it will.
If you are going to answer a question I never raised at least include the post I wrote.
Why bother? Half the time you make no sense. To put it back up there is like taking a picture of your latest dump.
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In NO years has there ever been a case for more than four teams.
Of course, you insisted it would never go to four. So it is not surprising that you can not see the writing on the wall.
If you are saying "should" it, then I would be inclined to agree that it should not. But it will...and it is obvious it will.
I got stuck on whether he meant there was never a case for an expanded playoff, or never a case for any team except the four chosen, but since both are equally wrong I guess it does not matter. The first year there was a case for TCU and Baylor, which means there was a case for an expanded playoff. There was a.case.last year for tOSU or UCF so there was a case for at least a six team playoff. Mind you, I have no real problem with the teams that have made the playoffs, outside of my philosophical disagreement with non-conference champs. But that does not mean there wasn't a case to be made at least for the absent Power 5 champs each year.
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Yep.
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In NO years has there ever been a case for more than four teams.
Of course, you insisted it would never go to four. So it is not surprising that you can not see the writing on the wall.
If you are saying "should" it, then I would be inclined to agree that it should not. But it will...and it is obvious it will.
I got stuck on whether he meant there was never a case for an expanded playoff, or never a case for any team except the four chosen, but since both are equally wrong I guess it does not matter. The first year there was a case for TCU and Baylor, which means there was a case for an expanded playoff. There was a.case.last year for tOSU or UCF so there was a case for at least a six team playoff. Mind you, I have no real problem with the teams that have made the playoffs, outside of my philosophical disagreement with non-conference champs. But that does not mean there wasn't a case to be made at least for the absent Power 5 champs each year.
There was never a case for any of the four teams you mentioned. Not that it matters to the point I made in response to a Trojan.
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tosu looking like sh!t again...
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That's because they're playing a powerhouse.
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GO HARVARD!
and CITADEL +54
and UMASS +44
and TERPS +14
hitting the moneyline tri-fecta would be awesome
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What’s the payout??
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What’s the payout??
QnD
by my calculation about $4.2 million on a $1 bet.
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What’s the payout??
QnD
by my calculation about $4.2 million on a $1 bet.
Wowski
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What’s the payout??
QnD
by my calculation about $4.2 million on a $1 bet.
Wowski
not quite Mega-Millions or Powerball, but you get 3 games for a buck
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FUCK YOU NICK SABAN DESTROYER OF DREAMS!
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and for old-time sake, and keeping with the theme pounded by ESPN2, can't we go with
Maryland beats Ohio St. 45-45?
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gutsy call love it,
fuck
the guy was open.
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If OSU beags Meatchicken next week, I may owe jbot some Keystone Light.
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Love the Notre Dame uniforms.
Its defense is pretty awesome, too.
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gutsy call love it,
fuck
the guy was open.
I thought the OSU receiver fumbled the ball before he was down on the one yard line. Ball was out IMO. Should've been Terps ball, game over.
But the officials, and the announcers, thought differently.
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Tough loss Scotty, I know this one stings.
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Mountaineers look to be done for. There'll be no escape for the Princess this time.
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But man they had me believin. They had me believin.
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UCF fightin hard on special teams.
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Tough loss Scotty, I know this one stings.
I’m not quite sure who hurt more, Maryland fans with the defeat or Ohio State fans watching their team play such an incredibly crappy game. A victory is almost not a compensation after watching something like that.
So, on another subject, riddle me this Cap…..why is Alabama playing someone like the Citadel at this point in the season? A couple of creampuffs at the start of the season I understand….college teams don’t play exhibition games so you often need something more than an inter-squad scrimmage to get your team in shape. But the Citadel?!? At this point of the season? Is Saban trying to negatively pad his teams resume?
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If OSU beags Meatchicken next week, I may owe jbot some Keystone Light.
While you never can tell with these rivalry games, at this point it is not looking very hopeful for OSU. Meatchicken has been steadily improving all season long while OSU has been steadily declining.
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gutsy call love it,
fuck
the guy was open.
I thought the OSU receiver fumbled the ball before he was down on the one yard line. Ball was out IMO. Should've been Terps ball, game over.
But the officials, and the announcers, thought differently.
Res ipsa loquitor.
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Tough loss Scotty, I know this one stings.
I’m not quite sure who hurt more, Maryland fans with the defeat or Ohio State fans watching their team play such an incredibly crappy game. A victory is almost not a compensation after watching something like that.
So, on another subject, riddle me this Cap…..why is Alabama playing someone like the Citadel at this point in the season? A couple of creampuffs at the start of the season I understand….college teams don’t play exhibition games so you often need something more than an inter-squad scrimmage to get your team in shape. But the Citadel?!? At this point of the season? Is Saban trying to negatively pad his teams resume?
Hey, God's Conference! It is like playing NFL teams! They deserve a break!
Theoretically, I guess it does not matter when you eat your chpcake. But The Citadel is an FCS school, which a school like Alabama should never play.
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Tough loss Scotty, I know this one stings.
So, on another subject, riddle me this Cap…..why is Alabama playing someone like the Citadel at this point in the season?
Because they are smarter than the average Bear.
A couple of creampuffs at the start of the season I understand….college teams don’t play exhibition games so you often need something more than an inter-squad scrimmage to get your team in shape. But the Citadel?!? At this point of the season? Is Saban trying to negatively pad his teams resume?
First and foremost keep this in mind Driver my brother. 'When' you play your creampufffs' doesn't matter to a computer algorithm that measures SOS. If you assimilate that simple fact everything really clears up right there. (Also who knew Louisville would suck as much as they do this year) Trust me every one of those voters are looking at some sort of computer ranking for SOS. Probably an amalgam of several. I doubt any of them have created their own personal computer algorithm to measure SOS. But you never know I suppose.
Right now Bama has the 11th toughest SOS in the nation, according to Massey. Add to that Bama has the 7th ranked future SOS according to Massey. This is after the Citadel game. Let that sink in, AFTER the Citadel game. Others have Bama lower but SOS can be looked at from so many angles though. So peoples' ratings can bounce all over the place. The below link has some really complex and tough to assimilate info in it. But if you even get half of what is being said I think you will be well on your way to seeing SOS isn't nearly as simple as some make it out to be. And this link doesn't cover a lot of other numbers considerations. But it is really good stuff for stat-hounds such as myself.
So I think Nicky's SOS rating is safe and sound. And if there is a head coach on the planet that doesn't need to worry much about the much blathered about OOC rankings and how it affects him, even if he has one loss and isn't a conference champion it's Nicky Saban.
Bottomline: It's what you place the most emphasis on that determines ones own personal SOS strength or lack thereof. That's why it is such an elusive bird to capture in a one rating encompasses all thoughts ranking.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/college-football/2018/schedule-strength-college-football (https://www.footballoutsiders.com/college-football/2018/schedule-strength-college-football)
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If OSU beags Meatchicken next week, I may owe jbot some Keystone Light.
While you never can tell with these rivalry games, at this point it is not looking very hopeful for OSU. Meatchicken has been steadily improving all season long while OSU has been steadily declining.
The Buckeye defense is what is blowing my mind at times. There is no way they should be performing as bad as they have with the talent they supposedly have. Maybe that is just it, the talent they are supposedly touted to have. That and their OL sucks turnips. But it's mostly that defense. I don't think I've ever seen the Buckeyes this bad on defense in 20 years. A number 47 defensive ranking by Massey? Ranked below Colgate on stats? Holy crap. I know Colgate was undefeated until they lost to Army yesterday but c'mon man!
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gutsy call love it,
fuck
the guy was open.
I thought the OSU receiver fumbled the ball before he was down on the one yard line. Ball was out IMO. Should've been Terps ball, game over.
But the officials, and the announcers, thought differently.
Res ipsa loquitor.
Just out of curiosity did you think it was a fumble? Or at least a booth review was warranted?
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Les Miles to Kansas.
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MY with the epic collapse, I think they pulled a CLEM to resurrect the vanquished nomenclature.
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Who's MY?
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MD
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Work with me a little, jeez.
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Oh. Maryland didn't "pull a Clemson" yesterday. As you know pulling a Clemson is an inexplicable loss, frequently a blowout one, to a team you were thought to be considerably better than. Actually OSU has become the prime practitioner of pulling a Clemson. Iowa and Purdue.
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gutsy call love it,
fuck
the guy was open.
I thought the OSU receiver fumbled the ball before he was down on the one yard line. Ball was out IMO. Should've been Terps ball, game over.
But the officials, and the announcers, thought differently.
Res ipsa loquitor.
Just out of curiosity did you think it was a fumble? Or at least a booth review was warranted?
I thought it was clearly a touchdown, no fumble not even close. But then again, I did not.see it as I was busy in my workshop trying to build us A FUCKING QUARTERBACK.
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The Buckeye defense is what is blowing my mind at times.
Losing Bosa was a big blow. You don’t remove one of the top players in the country without some sort of consequences. As for the over-all defense, it moves the rotations one player lower. With Bosa they were shaping up to have two excellent defensive ends. Now they have just one, as nobody has stepped up to make any sort of significant contributions in place of Bosa. With Bosa they were shaping up to have two excellent defensive ends and one real good D tackle….which would have left them only one tackle position to fill with someone who could make some big contributions. So in essence, losing Bosa has left them with half of a championship caliber defensive line.
They also seem to be notably weak at the linebacker position. OSU usually has at least one star linebacker, supported by at least one other backer who is really good. This year they have one supporting linebacker who is just alright (at times). All three seem to be fairly slow and out of position a lot (hence all these long runs popping through for touchdowns.
They have some decent young defensive backs who should develop for the future.
It all ads up to, instead of a defensive unit that I thought might come together as the season progressed to just a bad defense, something that not many people in Columbus can remember.
A reasonable expectation for this season might be to win the Big 10 title and then to go to the Rose Bowl. God forbid that some teams ahead of them crap out and they are elevated to to be one of the top four. Alabama or Clemson would murder them.
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First and foremost keep this in mind Driver my brother. 'When' you play your creampufffs' doesn't matter to a computer algorithm that measures SOS.
Cap:
My complaint about Alabama playing the Citadel at this time has nothing to do with SOS. Bama is so universally worshiped now that they could probably play a whole schedule of creampuffs yet they would not be too diminished in many peoples eyes. As far as that team is concerned there are only 3 games that really matter. The SEC championship to get them into the playoffs, the semifinal game in the playoffs and then the championship game. Until someone can take them out in one of those games nothing else seems to matter. I just thought it might be better for the playoffs if they played someone who had a chance of beating them so as to make the jockeying for position in the top four more interesting. Clemson has nearly stumbled their way out of the playoffs the last couple years by nearly losing to, well, let’s not call them creampuffs, but let’s just call them not highly regarded teams. Playing the Citadel at this time of the year is just a plain waste of a Saturday which might be put to better use by playing against a team with some potential. Hell, the Tide might even get ultra-bold and schedule a decent opponent and go on the road to play them. Maybe travel to California…..certainly would be a ratings winner out west.
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First and foremost keep this in mind Driver my brother. 'When' you play your creampufffs' doesn't matter to a computer algorithm that measures SOS.
Cap:
My complaint about Alabama playing the Citadel at this time has nothing to do with SOS. Bama is so universally worshiped now that they could probably play a whole schedule of creampuffs yet they would not be too diminished in many peoples eyes. As far as that team is concerned there are only 3 games that really matter. The SEC championship to get them into the playoffs, the semifinal game in the playoffs and then the championship game. Until someone can take them out in one of those games nothing else seems to matter. I just thought it might be better for the playoffs if they played someone who had a chance of beating them so as to make the jockeying for position in the top four more interesting. Clemson has nearly stumbled their way out of the playoffs the last couple years by nearly losing to, well, let’s not call them creampuffs, but let’s just call them not highly regarded teams. Playing the Citadel at this time of the year is just a plain waste of a Saturday which might be put to better use by playing against a team with some potential. Hell, the Tide might even get ultra-bold and schedule a decent opponent and go on the road to play them. Maybe travel to California…..certainly would be a ratings winner out west.
When you put it that way I agree with you.
Besides if I were to fault Nicky for scheduling a creampuff game at this time I wouldn't schedule a bunch of cut blocking bassids like those guys. Too much of a chance to get some of your starters effed up. Because if I did schedule a game that it would be to rest up and heal up. Seems counterproductive to play those guys to achieve that end.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
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It wasn't just Alabama. Other teams in the SEC had late season out-of-conference games yesterday. The SEC has been doing that for years.
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It wasn't just Alabama. Other teams in the SEC had late season out-of-conference games yesterday. The SEC has been doing that for years.
It wasn’t a late-season out of conference game I objected to. It was a late season OOC game against a dog of an opponent. All that should be part of the early season schedule, and by this point everyone should be getting down to serious business.
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Check out the other dogs the SEC teams played. Not just Alabama. It's an SEC thing.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
Addendum: The SEC is smarter than other conferences in this scheduling regard. So one would expect at least a modicum cry of foul talk by other conference members and fans that don't do it.
So while I can fault them as a fan I can't fault them for their intelligence in doing so. Smart savvy move really if you think about it.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
Addendum: The SEC is smarter than other conferences in this scheduling regard. So one would expect at least a modicum cry of foul talk by other conference members and fans that don't do it.
So while I can fault them as a fan I can't fault them for their intelligence in doing so. Smart savvy move really if you think about it.
Res ipsa loquitor.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
Addendum: The SEC is smarter than other conferences in this scheduling regard. So one would expect at least a modicum cry of foul talk by other conference members and fans that don't do it.
So while I can fault them as a fan I can't fault them for their intelligence in doing so. Smart savvy move really if you think about it.
Res ipsa loquitor.
Aight.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
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I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football.
Yeah, I know. They are just playing the odds…..playing the numbers. As I said, getting into the final four is the holy grail. But I say that they might be a bit short sighted. I don’t like the idea of trying to ‘lawyer’ your way into the final four. If your team has what it takes, you’ll be there. If your team has what it takes to be the best then you won’t fear playing anyone prior to the playoffs. Yes, it might be a bad gamble, or against the odds for some to do something like that. It might be easier to avoid something like that and to rely on the committee to put you in the field. But what about the idea of actually playing your way in? What if you are a one-loss team and you are on the edge of getting in? What would be the best way to do it? Start a national publicity campaign to try to influence the committee to include you? Or play and beat a strong foe on the field? Like I said, you take a lot of risks with a loss. But if you are national championship caliber team you don’t lose that game. Yes, yes….I know. Puts me right in with the fantasists who still believe in things like the student/athlete idea or the concept that the NCAA has any real effect or control on the current college football structure (recognize anyone of that nature, Cap? LOL).
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
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Trust cap to be pro-CTE.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
Things that don’t factor into the decision to call a targeting foul, according to the rulebook, include:
* how superhumanly tough the television viewer thinks football players should aspire to be,
* how much the fan in the stands enjoyed football’s previously higher levels of violence,
* the TV commentator's worries that this is all becoming flag football,
* the coach's conclusion that avoiding a targeting hit would require a player to approach a play awkwardly,
* or the reader's assumption that the writer of this article never Played The Game.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
Things that don’t factor into the decision to call a targeting foul, according to the rulebook, include:
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* how superhumanly tough the television viewer thinks football players should aspire to be,
* how much the fan in the stands enjoyed football’s previously higher levels of violence,
* the TV commentator's worries that this is all becoming flag football,
* the coach's conclusion that avoiding a targeting hit would require a player to approach a play awkwardly,
* or the reader's assumption that the writer of this article never Played The Game.
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It's amazing how more frequently I agree with ESPN3 than I do with RedStateWard.
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is rivalry week. One of the best is Notre Dame and USC, maybe the best in intercollegiate athletics.
Given Notre Dame is unbeaten and in the thick of the CFP positioning The Irish might want to review the 1964 game. Ara Parseghian’s team was 9-0, ranked number one in the polls, and would stay there if it could beat the Trojans. ( Bowl Games were not taken into consideration, there were just 8, and Notre Dame never played in one until 1969)
USC belonged to the Athletic Association of Western Universities( which became the Pac8 five years later). With league play finished the Trojans and Oregon State were tied for first and the league had to vote for a team to represent it in the Rose Bowl. The Trojans lobbied to postpone the vote until after it played Notre Dame. A victory would give them a 7-3 record against the Beavers’ 8-2 mark but everyone agreed that USC had played tougher teams(now known as SOS).
Notre Dame was the clear favorite. So much so that John McCay, the Trojan witty but wily coach remarked a week before the game that he saw “ no way” his team could win. By mid-week he amended that statement to
I've decided that if we play our very best and make no mistakes whatsoever we will definitely make a first down,"
Notre Dame did dominate and led 17-0 by halftime. But in the second the Trojans started to control the game and the Irish turned the ball over several times and it was 17-14. With under 2 minutes left halfback Rod Sherman caught a 15 yard pass for a TD and USC prevailed 20-14.
The Irish were devastated but the Trojans’s victory celebration was silenced after the AAWU voted to send Oregon State to the Rose Bowl where they lost to Michigan.
For both schools it was a bittersweet season. Notre Dame had dramatically rebounded from a two win season in 1963 to within 30 minutes of a National Championship. To underscore the dramatic turnaround QB John Huarte won the ‘64 Heisman Trophy after failing to even win a Letter in ‘63.
For USC the tremendous upset of Notre Dame failed to get it to the Rose Bowl(which to many in those days was better than a NC) all because of a vote.
USC Athletic Director Jess Hill summed up the Trojans’ feelings
So far as I am concerned, this is one of the rankest injustices ever perpetrated in the field of intercollegiate athletics."
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Undefeated Alabama was named the 1964 AP champion but the Tide couldn’t go to the Sugar Bowl because of the non-repeat provision so they went to the Orange Bowl and lost to Texas.
Michigan won a trip to the Rose Bowl after shutting out OSU 10-0.
The Wolverines creamed Oregon State 34-7 in The Rose Bowl.
Also in 1964 the list of Independent schools was a massive one. The days of conference rivalries were a long way off and the Bowl Games were, for the most part, regional pairings, the Rose Bowl not withstanding.
The 1964 Independents
Notre Dame
Florida State
Colgate
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
Villanova
Boston College
Rutgers
Southern Miss
New Mexico State
Penn State
VPI
Memphis State
Utah State
Holy Cross
Buffalo
Colorado State
Air Force
Miami (FL)
Xavier
Army
Idaho
West Texas State
San Jose State
Pittsburgh
Navy
Dayton
Detroit
Boston University
Houston
Pacific (CA)
Texas Western
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
Things that don’t factor into the decision to call a targeting foul, according to the rulebook, include:
* how superhumanly tough the television viewer thinks football players should aspire to be,
* how much the fan in the stands enjoyed football’s previously higher levels of violence,
* the TV commentator's worries that this is all becoming flag football,
* the coach's conclusion that avoiding a targeting hit would require a player to approach a play awkwardly,
* or the reader's assumption that the writer of this article never Played The Game.
Blah blah blah I don't give a fuck.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one. My first instinct is to elaborate on that, but I won't.
Bottomline: YG and I disagree. I'll leave it at that.
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is rivalry week. One of the best is Notre Dame and USC, maybe the best in intercollegiate athletics.
Given Notre Dame is unbeaten and in the thick of the CFP positioning The Irish might want to review the 1964 game. Ara Parseghian’s team was 9-0, ranked number one in the polls, and would stay there if it could beat the Trojans. ( Bowl Games were not taken into consideration, there were just 8, and Notre Dame never played in one until 1969)
USC belonged to the Athletic Association of Western Universities( which became the Pac8 five years later). With league play finished the Trojans and Oregon State were tied for first and the league had to vote for a team to represent it in the Rose Bowl. The Trojans lobbied to postpone the vote until after it played Notre Dame. A victory would give them a 7-3 record against the Beavers’ 8-2 mark but everyone agreed that USC had played tougher teams(now known as SOS).
Notre Dame was the clear favorite. So much so that John McCay, the Trojan witty but wily coach remarked a week before the game that he saw “ no way” his team could win. By mid-week he amended that statement to
I've decided that if we play our very best and make no mistakes whatsoever we will definitely make a first down,"
Notre Dame did dominate and led 17-0 by halftime. But in the second the Trojans started to control the game and the Irish turned the ball over several times and it was 17-14. With under 2 minutes left halfback Rod Sherman caught a 15 yard pass for a TD and USC prevailed 20-14.
The Irish were devastated but the Trojans’s victory celebration was silenced after the AAWU voted to send Oregon State to the Rose Bowl where they lost to Michigan.
For both schools it was a bittersweet season. Notre Dame had dramatically rebounded from a two win season in 1963 to within 30 minutes of a National Championship. To underscore the dramatic turnaround QB John Huarte won the ‘64 Heisman Trophy after failing to even win a Letter in ‘63.
For USC the tremendous upset of Notre Dame failed to get it to the Rose Bowl(which to many in those days was better than a NC) all because of a vote.
USC Athletic Director Jess Hill summed up the Trojans’ feelings
So far as I am concerned, this is one of the rankest injustices ever perpetrated in the field of intercollegiate athletics."
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Undefeated Alabama was named the 1964 AP champion but the Tide couldn’t go to the Sugar Bowl because of the non-repeat provision so they went to the Orange Bowl and lost to Texas.
Michigan won a trip to the Rose Bowl after shutting out OSU 10-0.
The Wolverines creamed Oregon State 34-7 in The Rose Bowl.
Also in 1964 the list of Independent schools was a massive one. The days of conference rivalries were a long way off and the Bowl Games were, for the most part, regional pairings, the Rose Bowl not withstanding.
The 1964 Independents
Notre Dame
Florida State
Colgate
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
Villanova
Boston College
Rutgers
Southern Miss
New Mexico State
Penn State
VPI
Memphis State
Utah State
Holy Cross
Buffalo
Colorado State
Air Force
Miami (FL)
Xavier
Army
Idaho
West Texas State
San Jose State
Pittsburgh
Navy
Dayton
Detroit
Boston University
Houston
Pacific (CA)
Texas Western
Following up on ESPN's post, scanning the the list, brought back the days of the "East Indies" and Penn St-Syracuse-BC-Pitt-Army-Navy-Holy Cross that generally played each other and were pretty competitive, and produced some decent teams that did ok in bowl games.
Going further down memory lane, and double checking with the internet, in 1960, a neighbor, a Syracuse grad, took me to see his alma mater (and previous year national champ) and the late great Ernie Davis play a road game in Worcester, about 30 miles down the road. I don't remember any of the game but the internet says "Cuse won 15-6. At some point after, maybe 70or 80s HC stopped Div1 competition.
Doing a little more internet sleuthing, Holy Cross is sort of back in the football biz, and Syracuse has rescheduled HC (aka Holy Cupcake) and will play in Sept. 2019, for the first time since 1973.
GO CRUSADERS!
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is rivalry week. One of the best is Notre Dame and USC, maybe the best in intercollegiate athletics.
Given Notre Dame is unbeaten and in the thick of the CFP positioning The Irish might want to review the 1964 game. Ara Parseghian’s team was 9-0, ranked number one in the polls, and would stay there if it could beat the Trojans. ( Bowl Games were not taken into consideration, there were just 8, and Notre Dame never played in one until 1969)
USC belonged to the Athletic Association of Western Universities( which became the Pac8 five years later). With league play finished the Trojans and Oregon State were tied for first and the league had to vote for a team to represent it in the Rose Bowl. The Trojans lobbied to postpone the vote until after it played Notre Dame. A victory would give them a 7-3 record against the Beavers’ 8-2 mark but everyone agreed that USC had played tougher teams(now known as SOS).
Notre Dame was the clear favorite. So much so that John McCay, the Trojan witty but wily coach remarked a week before the game that he saw “ no way” his team could win. By mid-week he amended that statement to
I've decided that if we play our very best and make no mistakes whatsoever we will definitely make a first down,"
Notre Dame did dominate and led 17-0 by halftime. But in the second the Trojans started to control the game and the Irish turned the ball over several times and it was 17-14. With under 2 minutes left halfback Rod Sherman caught a 15 yard pass for a TD and USC prevailed 20-14.
The Irish were devastated but the Trojans’s victory celebration was silenced after the AAWU voted to send Oregon State to the Rose Bowl where they lost to Michigan.
For both schools it was a bittersweet season. Notre Dame had dramatically rebounded from a two win season in 1963 to within 30 minutes of a National Championship. To underscore the dramatic turnaround QB John Huarte won the ‘64 Heisman Trophy after failing to even win a Letter in ‘63.
For USC the tremendous upset of Notre Dame failed to get it to the Rose Bowl(which to many in those days was better than a NC) all because of a vote.
USC Athletic Director Jess Hill summed up the Trojans’ feelings
So far as I am concerned, this is one of the rankest injustices ever perpetrated in the field of intercollegiate athletics."
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Undefeated Alabama was named the 1964 AP champion but the Tide couldn’t go to the Sugar Bowl because of the non-repeat provision so they went to the Orange Bowl and lost to Texas.
Michigan won a trip to the Rose Bowl after shutting out OSU 10-0.
The Wolverines creamed Oregon State 34-7 in The Rose Bowl.
Also in 1964 the list of Independent schools was a massive one. The days of conference rivalries were a long way off and the Bowl Games were, for the most part, regional pairings, the Rose Bowl not withstanding.
The 1964 Independents
Notre Dame
Florida State
Colgate
Georgia Tech
Syracuse
Villanova
Boston College
Rutgers
Southern Miss
New Mexico State
Penn State
VPI
Memphis State
Utah State
Holy Cross
Buffalo
Colorado State
Air Force
Miami (FL)
Xavier
Army
Idaho
West Texas State
San Jose State
Pittsburgh
Navy
Dayton
Detroit
Boston University
Houston
Pacific (CA)
Texas Western
Following up on ESPN's post, scanning the the list, brought back the days of the "East Indies" and Penn St-Syracuse-BC-Pitt-Army-Navy-Holy Cross that generally played each other and were pretty competitive, and produced some decent teams that did ok in bowl games.
Going further down memory lane, and double checking with the internet, in 1960, a neighbor, a Syracuse grad, took me to see his alma mater (and previous year national champ) and the late great Ernie Davis play a road game in Worcester, about 30 miles down the road. I don't remember any of the game but the internet says "Cuse won 15-6. At some point after, maybe 70or 80s HC stopped Div1 competition.
Doing a little more internet sleuthing, Holy Cross is sort of back in the football biz, and Syracuse has rescheduled HC (aka Holy Cupcake) and will play in Sept. 2019, for the first time since 1973.
GO CRUSADERS!
As soon as Dungy went out the Cuse was dusted. Not having plug and play blue chippers like the big boys and all. They tanked last year as soon as he got injured too. A team can play a totally different version of defense when they know the QB isn't a running threat and a frosh to boot. Blood in the water baby, blood in the water. Still makes me salivate.
But talking about Holy Cross I remember when I was a youngster of around 9 or 10(they had just invented a thing called the super bowl. When I watched ABC college football, I think it was ABC in the late sixties early seventies. They had the College Football score board with the slide in team names and scores. Back then on the eastern seaboard you got a steady dose of scores from Holy Cross and Lehigh, Colgate, Bucknell, etc etc.
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Rivalry Week POP QUIZ!
(No fair using the Internet)
What long-standing intercollegiate rivalry is known as
Clean Old-fashioned Hate?
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That's Georgia Tech-Georgia.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.
What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?
You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.
What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?
You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.
What makes you think it has to be both?
The sign you saw was of your own mental need to see.
Whatever gets you off. Fine by me.
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That's Georgia Tech-Georgia.
Bingo!
Thanks for playing!
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Florida's Top remaining undecided Prospects:
https://n.rivals.com/news/florida-spotlight-sunshine-state-s-top-undecided-prospects (https://n.rivals.com/news/florida-spotlight-sunshine-state-s-top-undecided-prospects)
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.
What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?
You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.
What makes you think it has to be both?
I neither said nor implied that it did.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.
What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?
You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.
What makes you think it has to be both?
I neither said nor implied that it did.
Didn't have to I can read your mind, it comes with years of experience dealing with you.
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.
What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?
You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.
What makes you think it has to be both?
I neither said nor implied that it did.
Didn't have to I can read your mind, it comes with years of experience dealing with you.
I would read your mind but the Adventures of Dick and Jane bore me.
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Is this the week UCF jumps.a.big boy? Specifically, will the Committee but them ahead of Ohio State?
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.
What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?
You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.
What makes you think it has to be both?
I neither said nor implied that it did.
Didn't have to I can read your mind, it comes with years of experience dealing with you.
I would read your mind but the Adventures of Dick and Jane bore me.
A pathetic attempt. You're better than that. No coffee this morning?
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.
What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?
You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.
What makes you think it has to be both?
I neither said nor implied that it did.
Didn't have to I can read your mind, it comes with years of experience dealing with you.
I would read your mind but the Adventures of Dick and Jane bore me.
A pathetic attempt. You're better than that. No coffee this morning?
You still on that thread? Don't you have any constructive College Football comments to offer?
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When you put it that way I agree with you.
Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.
Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.
To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.
A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?
Offensive pussies.
I know you love tough, hard-nosed football Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.
If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.
Then it's a problem with reffing. All you need to do is read the rule book.
I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.
The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.
That's fine, Cap'n. But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?" My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men." That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.
The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.
Like that has ever bothered you.
There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.
What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?
You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.
What makes you think it has to be both?
I neither said nor implied that it did.
Didn't have to I can read your mind, it comes with years of experience dealing with you.
I would read your mind but the Adventures of Dick and Jane bore me.
A pathetic attempt. You're better than that. No coffee this morning?
You still on that thread? Don't you have any constructive College Football comments to offer?
I didn't want you to feel left out.
And of course I do. Some that you might even be able to comprehend.
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Is this the week UCF jumps.a.big boy? Specifically, will the Committee but them ahead of Ohio State?
Looks like they did. But still behind a 2 loss LSU.
Next question is will OSU hop back in front of UCF if the Buckeyes take out the Wolverines?
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Is this the week UCF jumps.a.big boy? Specifically, will the Committee but them ahead of Ohio State?
Looks like they did. But still behind a 2 loss LSU.
Next question is will OSU hop back in front of UCF if the Buckeyes take out the Wolverines?
Yes. And if OSU wins the Big Whatever they wl hop UCF, LSU, and WSU. And assuming the likely, Georgia. Oklahoma would be the issue if they win out. But I doubt they win Saturday. They seem uncharacteristically discombobulated.
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And just when you think Godzilla is dead...
I'm not putting any money on Michigan.
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As bad as OSU seems, I keep remembering, as they always do, they seem to do find a way to win. They are after all still 10-1. But I think they're winning on pure talent. I know that sounds like it doesn't make any sense. But yet, it does.
What I mean by that is they seem lacking, to me, simply in player leadership. They need leaders to step up and I'm just not seeing it. The young QB has talent but I see him get rattled in lots of critical situations. Same with the OL and the entire defense. Did losing Bosa leave them without a guy to look to when things get crazy? Maybe that's it I keep telling myself.
Physical talent alone doesn't make a leader.
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https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals250-db-jalen-perry-picks-michigan (https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals250-db-jalen-perry-picks-michigan)
Excellent pick-up by Harbaugh.
I see the guy as a better fit at safety rather than a CB. That is if he's got the mindset for the role.
Good hands and a receiver's brain though, so CB could be where he shines.
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As bad as OSU seems, I keep remembering, as they always do, they seem to do find a way to win. They are after all still 10-1. But I think they're winning on pure talent. I know that sounds like it doesn't make any sense. But yet, it does.
What I mean by that is they seem lacking, to me, simply in player leadership. They need leaders to step up and I'm just not seeing it. The young QB has talent but I see him get rattled in lots of critical situations. Same with the OL and the entire defense. Did losing Bosa leave them without a guy to look to when things get crazy? Maybe that's it I keep telling myself.
Physical talent alone doesn't make a leader.
They seem unorganized, unfocused and lacking in communication, which results in all the Big plays. That is coaching. Between the controversy, his suspension, his health, and stress, Meyer seems not to be the same same coach he was. I wonder if it is time for him to pick up that ESPN gig again.
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Anyway, time for my annual morph into a 75 year old man, sitting in a rocker on my front porch, waving my cane in the air while railing against the sins of modernity.
I.used to love the last week of college football, when there was only the ABC broadcast. Michigan - Ohio State at noon, Oklahoma - Nebraska at 3:30, USC - UCLA in the Rose Bowl at night. What.a.great.day, all day with my dad watching football, roaring fire in the living room, great rivalries, great games. It felt communal, like.every college football fan was in the room with me, watching along. Woah Nellie, was that a.day.
Now? USC and UCLA played last week, Nebraska and Oklahoma never play each other any more, and I will have about 8 games to chose from to compete with The Game. It is just not the same. Something indefinable has been lost. And it is not even the last.week anymore; instead of proving your worth through the grind of the season, we get to see the Fighting Nerds get stomped by ClemSIN between Dr. Pepper ads. Now, get off my lawn!
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Anyway, time for my annual morph into a 75 year old man, sitting in a rocker on my front porch, waving my cane in the air while railing against the sins of modernity.
I.used to love the last week of college football, when there was only the ABC broadcast. Michigan - Ohio State at noon, Oklahoma - Nebraska at 3:30, USC - UCLA in the Rose Bowl at night. What.a.great.day, all day with my dad watching football, roaring fire in the living room, great rivalries, great games. It felt communal, like.every college football fan was in the room with me, watching along. Woah Nellie, was that a.day.
Now? USC and UCLA played last week, Nebraska and Oklahoma never play each other any more, and I will have about 8 games to chose from to compete with The Game. It is just not the same. Something indefinable has been lost. And it is not even the last.week anymore; instead of proving your worth through the grind of the season, we get to see the Fighting Nerds get stomped by ClemSIN between Dr. Pepper ads. Now, get off my lawn!
Great post you old fart.
I loved Nebraska-Oklahoma, that was one of the defining great games of college football. It seemed those teams were always 8-0 going into that game, and winner got the Orange Bowl.
And fwiw, The Game was played last Saturday, It was a pretty good game until Harvard pulled away in the 4th quarter.
and can you throw back my baseball?
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I see my autocorrect changed "Fightin' Nards" to "Fighting Nerds".
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As bad as OSU seems, I keep remembering, as they always do, they seem to do find a way to win. They are after all still 10-1. But I think they're winning on pure talent. I know that sounds like it doesn't make any sense. But yet, it does.
What I mean by that is they seem lacking, to me, simply in player leadership. They need leaders to step up and I'm just not seeing it. The young QB has talent but I see him get rattled in lots of critical situations. Same with the OL and the entire defense. Did losing Bosa leave them without a guy to look to when things get crazy? Maybe that's it I keep telling myself.
Physical talent alone doesn't make a leader.
They seem unorganized, unfocused and lacking in communication, which results in all the Big plays. That is coaching. Between the controversy, his suspension, his health, and stress, Meyer seems not to be the same same coach he was. I wonder if it is time for him to pick up that ESPN gig again.
I think he'll be in the NFL next season.
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St. Johns really took it to Martin Luther, didn't they? Should have scored.11 more, pounded their own 95 metaphorical theses into their metaphorical church door.
Does Mary beat Berry this week? Make Berry blue - or perhaps black and blue? Goose them? Raz them? Straw them? I need something better for the last one.
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As bad as OSU seems, I keep remembering, as they always do, they seem to do find a way to win. They are after all still 10-1. But I think they're winning on pure talent. I know that sounds like it doesn't make any sense. But yet, it does.
What I mean by that is they seem lacking, to me, simply in player leadership. They need leaders to step up and I'm just not seeing it. The young QB has talent but I see him get rattled in lots of critical situations. Same with the OL and the entire defense. Did losing Bosa leave them without a guy to look to when things get crazy? Maybe that's it I keep telling myself.
Physical talent alone doesn't make a leader.
They seem unorganized, unfocused and lacking in communication, which results in all the Big plays. That is coaching. Between the controversy, his suspension, his health, and stress, Meyer seems not to be the same same coach he was. I wonder if it is time for him to pick up that ESPN gig again.
I think he'll be in the NFL next season.
Urban Meyer will never coach in the NFL.
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As bad as OSU seems, I keep remembering, as they always do, they seem to do find a way to win. They are after all still 10-1. But I think they're winning on pure talent. I know that sounds like it doesn't make any sense. But yet, it does.
What I mean by that is they seem lacking, to me, simply in player leadership. They need leaders to step up and I'm just not seeing it. The young QB has talent but I see him get rattled in lots of critical situations. Same with the OL and the entire defense. Did losing Bosa leave them without a guy to look to when things get crazy? Maybe that's it I keep telling myself.
Physical talent alone doesn't make a leader.
They seem unorganized, unfocused and lacking in communication, which results in all the Big plays. That is coaching. Between the controversy, his suspension, his health, and stress, Meyer seems not to be the same same coach he was. I wonder if it is time for him to pick up that ESPN gig again.
I think he'll be in the NFL next season.
Urban Meyer will never coach in the NFL.
Yeah, if he has healtb/stress issues, it is hard to see an NFL job as a.remedy.
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Between the controversy, his suspension, his health, and stress, Meyer seems not to be the same same coach he was.
I could not agree with you more, Mr. Priest. This has been two years in a row now where OSU has had inexplicable blowout loses on the road to teams who both tanked after their big wins against Ohio State. Neither of these teams were powerhouses in any sense. Not only did OSU players fail in almost every aspect of these games, it seemed to be clear that they were ill-prepared for the games from a coaching standpoint. And Myer seemed incapable of changing anything that was happening during those games. This is something that would not have happened with Myer in the past. The man has amassed a fantastic record since coming to Ohio State and deserves every dollar they have paid him (well, maybe not every dollar….but that’s college football these days). And he’s still managing to win a number of big games when he really needs to (witness what happened this year in the white-out cauldron of Happy Valley or their dominating win in East Lansing). As per usual these days, I think these wins were attributed more to the supposed incompetence of their opposition than any skill on the Buckeyes part because they don’t appear to be the well-oiled machine everyone in Columbus would like to see…..but, still….they won these big road games.
Heck, Myer and his boys might even pull out this game on Saturday. By all logic, Michigan should win, but there’s a chance Myer might still be able to work some of that old magic of his one more time. But for whatever reason, the failure of that magic appears to be happening more often now than it did in the past. Be it questionable health or the inertia that settles in with a long stay in a successful yet stressful situation I don’t know, but whatever is happening I agree with you…I think it is clear that something has changed. The team is fully stocked with high-level recruits of his own choice which many experts have been raving about as some of the best recruiting in the country for the past couple of years, yet the team they have produced this year has at times looked downright incapable. If they lose against Michigan this Saturday it is my prediction that he will be back for one more year to see if he is still capable of putting it all together for one more run at the National Championship. Failure to achieve any success in that I believe will result in everyone just going “that’s enough”, time for something new.
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Anyway, time for my annual morph into a 75 year old man, sitting in a rocker on my front porch, waving my cane in the air while railing against the sins of modernity.
I.used to love the last week of college football, when there was only the ABC broadcast. Michigan - Ohio State at noon, Oklahoma - Nebraska at 3:30, USC - UCLA in the Rose Bowl at night. What.a.great.day, all day with my dad watching football, roaring fire in the living room, great rivalries, great games. It felt communal, like.every college football fan was in the room with me, watching along. Woah Nellie, was that a.day.
Now? USC and UCLA played last week, Nebraska and Oklahoma never play each other any more, and I will have about 8 games to chose from to compete with The Game. It is just not the same. Something indefinable has been lost. And it is not even the last.week anymore; instead of proving your worth through the grind of the season, we get to see the Fighting Nerds get stomped by ClemSIN between Dr. Pepper ads. Now, get off my lawn!
Good stuff. Reminds me of why I still like you.
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As bad as OSU seems, I keep remembering, as they always do, they seem to do find a way to win. They are after all still 10-1. But I think they're winning on pure talent. I know that sounds like it doesn't make any sense. But yet, it does.
What I mean by that is they seem lacking, to me, simply in player leadership. They need leaders to step up and I'm just not seeing it. The young QB has talent but I see him get rattled in lots of critical situations. Same with the OL and the entire defense. Did losing Bosa leave them without a guy to look to when things get crazy? Maybe that's it I keep telling myself.
Physical talent alone doesn't make a leader.
They seem unorganized, unfocused and lacking in communication, which results in all the Big plays. That is coaching. Between the controversy, his suspension, his health, and stress, Meyer seems not to be the same same coach he was. I wonder if it is time for him to pick up that ESPN gig again.
I think the coaching thing is part of it. But in this modern day of signal upon signal you also need those guys on the field that can make sure everyone is on the same page and do it in 2 seconds.(That's the game right there)
For instance Bama showed a little chink in the armor stuff last year when some of their key defensive communication guys got injured and they lost all those communicating ILB's of theirs. At one point they had a safety trying to communicate to the front guys what their assignments were. That's usually one of the inside LBs job and you could see some serious mixups in that game. Finally in that game as part of the solution I saw the Sabanites switch their secondary coverage running a lot more straight man to free that guy up to press up closer to the line. Although you also saw him backpeddling his ass off several times after screaming out the set. It's been my observance that in their normal environment the Sabanites like to play man-free and combo man more than anything. They try and push everything to the inside whenever possible. This is why IMO they can be had on deep outside iso routes more than teams try to do. I suspect since usually the other teams QB is generally running for his life they just don't have time to run that shit. It's a wonder how pressure will make secondaries look good. :-)
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Res ipsa loquitor.
In Vino Veritas
..and therein lies the extent of my Latin repertoire...and that's the truth!
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why is Alabama playing someone like the Citadel at this point in the season?
The entire SEC has collectively opted for a second bye week late in the season before they face their rivalry game. Every other conference cries foul and the SEC says, no, we're "smart" for doing it--it is not against the rules. Cheaters and thieves always think they are smart or more clever also since they can get the same or better results with less work. But until another conference pounds the SEC in OOC, there isn't a lot they can "say" that will be effective. And therein lies the truth.
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It's amazing how more frequently I agree with ESPN3 than I do with RedStateWard.
People are multi layered. Part of the problem with modern political thinking is the concept that if someone disagrees with our political beliefs -- it makes them stupid and a horrible person. There are horrible and stupid people on both sides of the political spectrum...just as there are also kind and intelligent people on both sides.
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I used to love the last week of college football, when there was only the ABC broadcast.
It's been at least 20 years or so since the "rivalry game" day was bifurcated into two weekends. That's when I first noticed it anyway. And I wondered whether it was always that way and maybe I just assumed it had changed. USC Notre Dame has always alternated --Notre Dame comes out here late in the season -often on Thanksgiving weekend and we go out there early in the season. They want to escape the snow and we want no part of it. We often then played UCLA on the first weekend of December...when I noticed Cal _Stanford and other rivalry games had been played the prior weekend
Conference realignment, the rise of conference championship games and creating a special week for Army-Navy definitely changed things even more though.
I don't like the kids playing on my lawn either.
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It's amazing how more frequently I agree with ESPN3 than I do with RedStateWard.
People are multi layered. Part of the problem with modern political thinking is the concept that if someone disagrees with our political beliefs -- it makes them stupid and a horrible person. There are horrible and stupid people on both sides of the political spectrum...just as there are also kind and intelligent people on both sides.
Well said.
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Terrible injury, really feel bad for the Kid.
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Bama using a couple of helicopters to dry the field.
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Bama using a couple of helicopters to dry the field.
Awww, poor Bama afwaid of getting wet? Man up pussies.
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I know they are not popular here, but s shot Ohio is one of the all time great college football traditions. jbot's boys rubbing their rocks on the way into the stadium is another.
Go Cocks. Go Buckeyes. War Eagle! Hold them back Trojans! Come on Rambling Wreck! Let's have some.Fucking Anarchy!
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Ha!!
Bucknut exits wet paper bag in first half, what gives??
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Bama using a couple of helicopters to dry the field.
Awww, poor Bama afwaid of getting wet? Man up pussies.
Don't be a hater just because they're smart.
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And that's how you get yards on a speedy defense. Cut back on the over pursuit.
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Busted assignment.
I said I wasn't going to put any money on Michigan. Right that's looking like a smart move on my part.
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And here I took you for a hand in the dirt manly play in the elements kind of guy.
This just in: tOSU is not dead yet.
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Dungy and Cuse come right back on the Eagles. Different offense when he is in the game.
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Mount Union taking Centre apart. Mary Hardin-Baylor having a Berry pie up 28-Zip after one qtr. Slippery Rock in a battle with New Haven up 14-7, check that The Rock just scored.
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This just in. Hard to beat a team when you have to beat the officials at the same time.
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Yeah that last pass interference call was bogus. Wolverines not playing their best defense today though.
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And here I took you for a hand in the dirt manly play in the elements kind of guy.
This just in: tOSU is not dead yet.
That's all well and good. And even true. My tattoos have tattoos.
But smart is smart. I've been trying to get that across to you for years.
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My tattoos have tattoos.
hmmm... Have you also switched to Keystone Light? That sounds like a JBot comment
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My tattoos have tattoos.
hmmm... Have you also switched to Keystone Light? That sounds like a JBot comment
Why thank you.
An honor to be in JBs league to be sure.
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Ok guys...I need to get ready to head down to the Colosseum and watch our boys get pasted. At least we have good seats.
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Yeah that last pass interference call was bogus. Wolverines not playing their best defense today though.
Well, they missed a helmet to helmet targeting call on Meatchicken. Always bad calls. You nust overcome them. Anyone who seriously argues the refs are biased for or against any team is a pea wit.
Also, consider the possibility that when it.clicks OSU has a damned good offense.
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And here I took you for a hand in the dirt manly play in the elements kind of guy.
This just in: tOSU is not dead yet.
That's all well and good. And even true. My tattoos have tattoos.
But smart is smart. I've been trying to get that across to you for years.
How? By demonstrating tbe opposite?
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I think i might shelve that Tate Martell goal line package.
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Meatchicken coming apart at the seams right now.
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Looks like MHB absolutely macerated the Berries. And that things fell apart and the Centre could not hold.
I smell a rematch.
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Meatchicken coming apart at the seams right now.
nemine contradicente
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And here I took you for a hand in the dirt manly play in the elements kind of guy.
This just in: tOSU is not dead yet.
That's all well and good. And even true. My tattoos have tattoos.
But smart is smart. I've been trying to get that across to you for years.
How? By demonstrating tbe opposite?
I've left that part of the equation to you to which you have performed admirably.
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Looks like MHB absolutely macerated the Berries. And that things fell apart and the Centre could not hold.
I smell a rematch.
Nicely done.
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Thanks trot for the mention and cap for the incoherency boy props.
Here’s the thing: South Carolina is a legitimate SEC team, although not the pride of the conference. We are a 4 TD fave last time I checked.
Mark my words: If we beat COCKS by 3 TDs we will blow the doors off of NOTER DOME given the opps...
In other news AUB hanging, banging.
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And there's the door Eagle.
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The Michigan Basketball team has not allowed more than 61 points in a game.
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I can't believe we almost lost to Rucking Futgers.
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I'm beginning to think we might not win it all this year.
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Hold the Hall of Fame induction for Michigan Defensive Guru Don Brown.
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Like the man said, 'The Gamecocks didn't come here for a haircut'.
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I can't believe we almost lost to Rucking Futgers.
Well, it is Rivalry week.
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Nice defensive play right there for the Clemson defense.
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USC looking to ruin ND's day.
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USC looking to ruin ND's day.
...and make mine.
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USC looking to ruin ND's day.
...and make mine.
On one hand I'd like Scotty to be happy. On the other hand...
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So... Georgia, Oklahoma, Ohio State,.UFC for 4 - 7?
Harbaugh, is 0 - 9 against Top 10 teams. Lifetime contract!
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Defense wins what?
The statistical leader in defense, Michigan, gave up 62 points to Ohio State and lost a chance to make the College Football Playoff. OSU quarterback Dwayne Haskins broke the Big Ten records for single-season passing yards and single-season touchdown passes in the game.
Oklahoma is 5-0 since 2015 when its defense allows at least 600 yards.
Alabama is the second team in college football history to outscore its first 12 opponents by at least 20 points (Yale, 1888)
Clemson’s 744 yards in a 56-35 win vs. South Carolina were the most ever allowed by the Gamecocks.
UCF has won 24 consecutive games and scored at least 30 points in all 24 games, both leading the nation.
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Defense wins what?
The statistical leader in defense, Michigan, gave up 62 points to Ohio State and lost a chance to make the College Football Playoff. OSU quarterback Dwayne Haskins broke the Big Ten records for single-season passing yards and single-season touchdown passes in the game.
Oklahoma is 5-0 since 2015 when its defense allows at least 600 yards.
Alabama is the second team in college football history to outscore its first 12 opponents by at least 20 points (Yale, 1888)
Clemson’s 744 yards in a 56-35 win vs. South Carolina were the most ever allowed by the Gamecocks.
UCF has won 24 consecutive games and scored at least 30 points in all 24 games, both leading the nation.
Anomalies happen. It's a long season. Especially in this day and age where myriad rule changes has basically hamstrung the defense. It's a passing game now and the defense isn't allowed to touch the offensive player, so yardage was bound to go up and it has. Anyone with half a brain can deduce that. Which explains the simpleminded logic of your post in regards to the Wolverine defense.
The plain fact is that Bama and Clemson average 14 points per game given up defensively. Georgia 17 and ND 17. Those are the facts.
OSU will probably get in because they will be the Big Ten 'Champion'. If so they will probably play Alabama, or Clemson, possibly Georgia. Either way, I can't even begin to tell you how much I am looking forward to that. Oklahoma would probably give Bama, Georgia or Clemson a better game than the Buckeyes, but that is arguable I suppose. Their offense is more explosive on a consistent basis than OSU's. If the Committee has any smarts they'll figure that out. Just remember the Oklahoma/Georgia game of last year.
IMO Michigan was undisciplined and over-pursued defensively on Saturday bit on way too many misdirection type of offensive stunts and tricks, I saw it time and time again. Hesitation, backtracking and just plain overrunning, that shit will kill you defensively. The Buckeye OC had a plan to take advantage of that sort of hyped up defensive frenzy and it worked to perfection. An undisciplined defense will get itself in loads of trouble.
Motivation and emotion has a lot to do with things and can slant things in odd ways, both good and unfortunately also bad. I knew OSU was going to whup Michigan. And I said as much.
I also knew that Georgia was going to crush Ga Tech. Motivation. Tech had 7 points through to the end of the 3rd qtr. Tech is a one trick pony offensively.
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So... Georgia, Oklahoma, Ohio State,.UFC for 4 - 7?
Harbaugh, is 0 - 9 against Top 10 teams. Lifetime contract!
I think you've nailed it.
Several different permutations of how the overall Bowl season will work out. Several possible Big10/SEC matchups could happen. Looking forward to how that all shakes out.
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So I’m not permutations guy and every possible scenario number-muncher, but am I way off base when I say it’s kind of like that dumb Hollywood movie from a few years ago, I.e., who can step forward and proclaim:
“I am Number Four”??
MICH seemed like a lock until they got smoked by tosu.
So, are we down to tosu, OKLA, Ugga and ALA, or some wildcard that I’m missing??
That said, I look forward to smoking Le Dome and playing the little red corvette match vs. ALA.
(Okay, so to “rubber match” becomes the used rubber match, Trojans, some of them used, etc.)
I am trying to expand too clever by 1/2 ad absurdism or whatever.
Note: On coffee and Metamucil right now trying to eliminate the holidays...(cough)...
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Defense wins what?
The statistical leader in defense, Michigan, gave up 62 points to Ohio State and lost a chance to make the College Football Playoff. OSU quarterback Dwayne Haskins broke the Big Ten records for single-season passing yards and single-season touchdown passes in the game.
Oklahoma is 5-0 since 2015 when its defense allows at least 600 yards.
Alabama is the second team in college football history to outscore its first 12 opponents by at least 20 points (Yale, 1888)
Clemson’s 744 yards in a 56-35 win vs. South Carolina were the most ever allowed by the Gamecocks.
UCF has won 24 consecutive games and scored at least 30 points in all 24 games, both leading the nation.
Anomalies happen. It's a long season. Especially in this day and age where myriad rule changes has basically hamstrung the defense. It's a passing game now and the defense isn't allowed to touch the offensive player, so yardage was bound to go up and it has. Anyone with half a brain can deduce that. Which explains the simpleminded logic of your post in regards to the Wolverine defense.
Anomalies? Rule changes?
That makes no sense.
The plain fact is that Bama and Clemson average 14 points per game given up defensively. Georgia 17 and ND 17. Those are the facts.
Proving what?
Oklahoma, Alabama, and Clemson score an average of 45-50 points a game, Ohio State 43, and Georgia 40. The only playoff- contention team lower is Notre Dame at 33.
OSU will probably get in because they will be the Big Ten 'Champion'.
Assuming Alabama wins the SEC, and the Sooners have a hiccup in the Big12 Championship.
If so they will probably play Alabama, or Clemson, possibly Georgia. Either way, I can't even begin to tell you how much I am looking forward to that.
So would tons of fans everywhere, especially if it is Alabama.
IMO Michigan was undisciplined and over-pursued defensively on Saturday bit on way too many misdirection type of offensive stunts and tricks, I saw it time and time again. Hesitation, backtracking and just plain overrunning, that shit will kill you defensively. The Buckeye OC had a plan to take advantage of that sort of hyped up defensive frenzy and it worked to perfection. An undisciplined defense will get itself in loads of trouble.
You must have been watching some other game. tOSU simply took advantage of its superior speed, especially with freshman receiver Chris Olave( starting his first game) getting open for the first two touchdowns ( and blocking a punt which resulted in the decisive score of the game in the third quarter).The fact is Michigan had never played against such an explosive offense all year. Dwayne Haskins stood behind an impenetrable O-Line and picked apart Michiga’s man-to-man pass defense which couldn’t keep up with speedy receivers running crossing patterns.
Haskins is now in the Heisman talk. Overpursuing? Offensive tricks? Paris Campbell runs a basic power sweep and lopes for 78 yards and the backbreaking score of the game. Basic stuff.
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For the seasons 1972-1974 Michigan went 30-2-1. And didn't go to a bowl. All three non-wins were against Ohio State.
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So I’m not permutations guy and every possible scenario number-muncher, but am I way off base when I say it’s kind of like that dumb Hollywood movie from a few years ago, I.e., who can step forward and proclaim:
“I am Number Four”??
MICH seemed like a lock until they got smoked by tosu.
So, are we down to tosu, OKLA, Ugga and ALA, or some wildcard that I’m missing??
That said, I look forward to smoking Le Dome and playing the little red corvette match vs. ALA.
(Okay, so to “rubber match” becomes the used rubber match, Trojans, some of them used, etc.)
I am trying to expand too clever by 1/2 ad absurdism or whatever.
Note: On coffee and Metamucil right now trying to eliminate the holidays...(cough)...
LOL good stuff.
And to plagiarize somewhat, don´t underestimate the Irish. They've got a tremendous right and a jaw of granite.
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Defense wins what?
The statistical leader in defense, Michigan, gave up 62 points to Ohio State and lost a chance to make the College Football Playoff. OSU quarterback Dwayne Haskins broke the Big Ten records for single-season passing yards and single-season touchdown passes in the game.
Oklahoma is 5-0 since 2015 when its defense allows at least 600 yards.
Alabama is the second team in college football history to outscore its first 12 opponents by at least 20 points (Yale, 1888)
Clemson’s 744 yards in a 56-35 win vs. South Carolina were the most ever allowed by the Gamecocks.
UCF has won 24 consecutive games and scored at least 30 points in all 24 games, both leading the nation.
Anomalies happen. It's a long season. Especially in this day and age where myriad rule changes has basically hamstrung the defense. It's a passing game now and the defense isn't allowed to touch the offensive player, so yardage was bound to go up and it has. Anyone with half a brain can deduce that. Which explains the simpleminded logic of your post in regards to the Wolverine defense.
Anomalies? Rule changes?
That makes no sense.
The plain fact is that Bama and Clemson average 14 points per game given up defensively. Georgia 17 and ND 17. Those are the facts.
Proving what?
Oklahoma, Alabama, and Clemson score an average of 45-50 points a game, Ohio State 43, and Georgia 40. The only playoff- contention team lower is Notre Dame at 33.
OSU will probably get in because they will be the Big Ten 'Champion'.
Assuming Alabama wins the SEC, and the Sooners have a hiccup in the Big12 Championship.
If so they will probably play Alabama, or Clemson, possibly Georgia. Either way, I can't even begin to tell you how much I am looking forward to that.
So would tons of fans everywhere, especially if it is Alabama.
IMO Michigan was undisciplined and over-pursued defensively on Saturday bit on way too many misdirection type of offensive stunts and tricks, I saw it time and time again. Hesitation, backtracking and just plain overrunning, that shit will kill you defensively. The Buckeye OC had a plan to take advantage of that sort of hyped up defensive frenzy and it worked to perfection. An undisciplined defense will get itself in loads of trouble.
You must have been watching some other game. tOSU simply took advantage of its superior speed, especially with freshman receiver Chris Olave( starting his first game) getting open for the first two touchdowns ( and blocking a punt which resulted in the decisive score of the game in the third quarter).The fact is Michigan had never played against such an explosive offense all year. Dwayne Haskins stood behind an impenetrable O-Line and picked apart Michiga’s man-to-man pass defense which couldn’t keep up with speedy receivers running crossing patterns.
Haskins is now in the Heisman talk. Overpursuing? Offensive tricks? Paris Campbell runs a basic power sweep and lopes for 78 yards and the backbreaking score of the game. Basic stuff.
Nothing makes sense to you. Which is friggin ironic as hell.
As to the Michigan game I've said for years you were a ball watcher and you keep confirming it to me.
Haskins has been in the Heisman talk all season where the frock have you been?
And I want OSU to play Alabama for one reason. Don't care what the other 'tons of fans' reason are. Unless it's my reason of course.
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For the seasons 1972-1974 Michigan went 30-2-1. And didn't go to a bowl. All three non-wins were against Ohio State.
By scores of 11-14, 10-10, and 10-12.
Mike Lantry, a Vietnam Nam vet, missed critical Field Goals in each game. Even Woody felt sorry for him.
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There were a lot of great players on those teams. Several of whom died far too young.
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Paris Campbell runs a basic power sweep and lopes for 78 yards and the backbreaking score of the game. Basic stuff.
Yep! And once he broke through that first wave he looked like a sports car accelerating away from everyone. Speed kills, and it sure as heck was a major factor in killing the Wolverettes.
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Paris Campbell runs a basic power sweep and lopes for 78 yards and the backbreaking score of the game. Basic stuff.
Yep! And once he broke through that first wave he looked like a sports car accelerating away from everyone. Speed kills, and it sure as heck was a major factor in killing the Wolverettes.
Reminded me of Ezekiel Elliott running through Alabama.
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Yeah that last pass interference call was bogus. Wolverines not playing their best defense today though.
All true but I was referring to WVA getting screwed, twice.
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Yeah that last pass interference call was bogus. Wolverines not playing their best defense today though.
All true but I was referring to WVA getting screwed, twice.
Okay, my bad.
Truthfully I didn't watch too much of that game. Not that it wasn't something good to watch. Just too much going on at the same time.One of the games had to suffer.
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Paris Campbell runs a basic power sweep and lopes for 78 yards and the backbreaking score of the game. Basic stuff.
Yep! And once he broke through that first wave he looked like a sports car accelerating away from everyone. Speed kills, and it sure as heck was a major factor in killing the Wolverettes.
Reminded me of Ezekiel Elliott running through Alabama.
Well, I can't begrudge Buckeyes fans of their lone victory over the Tide. Even if it was by all of 7 points. Seing as you like memories remember that 1978 game?
I remember watching that game. I think the margin of victory was a bit more than 7 points though wasn't it? :-)
But in case you've wiped that memory from your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyxttNAg9wo
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyxttNAg9wo)
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CFP placement odds-Vegas
Alabama. -260
Clemson 350
ND 900
tOSU 1300
Okla 1500
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Oklahoma has one loss and it has a chance to erase that loss this Saturday.
The best defense they faced this year just may have been the Cadets of Army. The second best may have been the Longhorns.
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Ohio State has one loss and looks like it has no chance to gain ground should Oklahoma win.
The Buckeyes play a four loss Northwestern school. The best matchup the Big Ten could apparently produce. The Wildcats have lost all three of their OOC games including a loss to the 4-7 and aptly named Akron Zips. Well, to be fair the Zips have one bowl game that I can remember. The Spud Bowl I think it was.
So I think it's safe to say that without a loss by the Sooners OSU won't be getting into the Football Four. And that actually might be better for them as they'd probably be favored playing whatever PAC team that gets thrown at them. Probably Washington. I'm sure their fans would be happier seeing them go out with a win.
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Ohio State has one loss and looks like it has no chance to gain ground should Oklahoma win.
The Buckeyes play a four loss Northwestern school. The best matchup the Big Ten could apparently produce. The Wildcats have lost all three of their OOC games including a loss to the 4-7 and aptly named Akron Zips. Well, to be fair the Zips have one bowl game that I can remember. The Spud Bowl I think it was.
Yeah, the West suckex this year. Almost as bad as the South Atlantic League Coastal.
So I think it's safe to say that without a loss by the Sooners OSU won't be getting into the Football Four.
Do not be so sure. The C9mmittee seems to value wins more than they discount losses. For what it is worth, Oklahoma has given up 40 points or more in each of their last four games. The whole record matters, not just one team's bad game. And that actually might be better for them as they'd probably be favored playing whatever PAC team that gets thrown at them. Probably Washington. I'm sure their fans would be happier seeing them go out with a win.
Well, that is stupid. From personal experience, the chance to be in a playoff trumps the bowls, even if you get waxed. Maybe one day a team you root for will make it and you will see what I mean.
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From personal experience, the chance to be in a playoff trumps the bowls, even if you get waxed.
A month of free hype, more more money for the Conference and, most of all, a huge leg up in recruiting.
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A month of free hype, more more money for the Conference and, most of all, a huge leg up in recruiting.
I’m not so sure how good it is for recruiting should you get waxed. Yes, you’ll get more attention and interest than teams who never get to the playoffs….but it seems to me that recruits would be more interested in the team that waxed you than they would be in you.
I can’t honestly say that I would have much confidence in OSU vs. Alabama or Clemson. Both those teams have been powerful and solid for most of the year, whereas Ohio State has been wildly inconsistent. I don’t think that a Big 10 title and a trip to the Rose Bowl would be out of line, expectations wise. Sometimes it just is what it is, and it really would be beyond expectations for this team to beat either of those two teams. Hope springs eternal in South Bend. Let them get their clocks cleaned in the playoffs.
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A month of free hype, more more money for the Conference and, most of all, a huge leg up in recruiting.
I’m not so sure how good it is for recruiting should you get waxed.
There is no downside recruiting-wise.
Just getting to the highest level is an automatic boost in attraction. Besides a loss underscores immediate needs to a recruit. TOSU got waxed by Clemson two years ago and hasn’t missed a beat on the recruiting trail. Closing the deal is a lot easier when a school can offer a player the biggest stage to play on. Especially those dreaming of the NFL.
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Closing the deal is a lot easier when a school can offer a player the biggest stage to play on.
Doubly so if your playing on the best team on that stage.
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Ohio State has one loss and looks like it has no chance to gain ground should Oklahoma win.
The Buckeyes play a four loss Northwestern school. The best matchup the Big Ten could apparently produce. The Wildcats have lost all three of their OOC games including a loss to the 4-7 and aptly named Akron Zips. Well, to be fair the Zips have one bowl game that I can remember. The Spud Bowl I think it was.
Yeah, the West suckex this year. Almost as bad as the South Atlantic League Coastal.
So I think it's safe to say that without a loss by the Sooners OSU won't be getting into the Football Four.
Do not be so sure. The C9mmittee seems to value wins more than they discount losses. For what it is worth, Oklahoma has given up 40 points or more in each of their last four games. The whole record matters, not just one team's bad game. And that actually might be better for them as they'd probably be favored playing whatever PAC team that gets thrown at them. Probably Washington. I'm sure their fans would be happier seeing them go out with a win.
Well, that is stupid. From personal experience, the chance to be in a playoff trumps the bowls, even if you get waxed. Maybe one day a team you root for will make it and you will see what I mean.
Yeah the ACC Coastal isn't all that.
You could be right. But I think for that to happen OSU has to hop Oklahoma tonight. Otherwise I'm not seeing it.
And we disagree.
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Ohio State has one loss and looks like it has no chance to gain ground should Oklahoma win.
The Buckeyes play a four loss Northwestern school. The best matchup the Big Ten could apparently produce. The Wildcats have lost all three of their OOC games including a loss to the 4-7 and aptly named Akron Zips. Well, to be fair the Zips have one bowl game that I can remember. The Spud Bowl I think it was.
Yeah, the West suckex this year. Almost as bad as the South Atlantic League Coastal.
So I think it's safe to say that without a loss by the Sooners OSU won't be getting into the Football Four.
Do not be so sure. The C9mmittee seems to value wins more than they discount losses. For what it is worth, Oklahoma has given up 40 points or more in each of their last four games. The whole record matters, not just one team's bad game. And that actually might be better for them as they'd probably be favored playing whatever PAC team that gets thrown at them. Probably Washington. I'm sure their fans would be happier seeing them go out with a win.
Well, that is stupid. From personal experience, the chance to be in a playoff trumps the bowls, even if you get waxed. Maybe one day a team you root for will make it and you will see what I mean.
Yeah the ACC Coastal isn't all that.
You could be right. But I think for that to happen OSU has to hop Oklahoma tonight. Otherwise I'm not seeing it.
And we disagree.
Nothing like talking kumquats when the subject was roses.
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Saturday’s Michigan-Ohio State college football game scored an 8.0 overnight rating on FOX, up 19% from last year (6.7)
The 8.0 is the highest college football overnight rating of the season. The previous high was 6.7 for Alabama-LSU on CBS earlier this month.
Excluding bowls, the 8.0 tied the second-highest college football overnight in Fox Sports history, matching last year’s Ohio State-Wisconsin Big Ten Championship. The 2013 Ohio State-Michigan State title game holds the top spot (8.4).
It also ranks as the fourth-highest Ohio State-Michigan overnight this century, behind 2016, 2006 (13.7) and 2002 (8.5).
Considering THE GAME is at noon EST (9am PST) the numbers are impressive.
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Ohio State has one loss and looks like it has no chance to gain ground should Oklahoma win.
The Buckeyes play a four loss Northwestern school. The best matchup the Big Ten could apparently produce. The Wildcats have lost all three of their OOC games including a loss to the 4-7 and aptly named Akron Zips. Well, to be fair the Zips have one bowl game that I can remember. The Spud Bowl I think it was.
Yeah, the West suckex this year. Almost as bad as the South Atlantic League Coastal.
So I think it's safe to say that without a loss by the Sooners OSU won't be getting into the Football Four.
Do not be so sure. The C9mmittee seems to value wins more than they discount losses. For what it is worth, Oklahoma has given up 40 points or more in each of their last four games. The whole record matters, not just one team's bad game. And that actually might be better for them as they'd probably be favored playing whatever PAC team that gets thrown at them. Probably Washington. I'm sure their fans would be happier seeing them go out with a win.
Well, that is stupid. From personal experience, the chance to be in a playoff trumps the bowls, even if you get waxed. Maybe one day a team you root for will make it and you will see what I mean.
Yeah the ACC Coastal isn't all that.
You could be right. But I think for that to happen OSU has to hop Oklahoma tonight. Otherwise I'm not seeing it.
And we disagree.
Nothing like talking kumquats when the subject was roses.
Well you can certainly run in space.
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Saturday’s Michigan-Ohio State college football game scored an 8.0 overnight rating on FOX, up 19% from last year (6.7)
The 8.0 is the highest college football overnight rating of the season. The previous high was 6.7 for Alabama-LSU on CBS earlier this month.
Excluding bowls, the 8.0 tied the second-highest college football overnight in Fox Sports history, matching last year’s Ohio State-Wisconsin Big Ten Championship. The 2013 Ohio State-Michigan State title game holds the top spot (8.4).
It also ranks as the fourth-highest Ohio State-Michigan overnight this century, behind 2016, 2006 (13.7) and 2002 (8.5).
Considering THE GAME is at noon EST (9am PST) the numbers are impressive.
Remember to wash that hand.
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Wait: The tosu/mich game did good numbers.
Who cares other than the TV people, it’s a big rivalry and MICH hasn’t been good in 15 years...??
Kids don’t care.
Adults don’t care.
Network executives look up from their phones for a minute??
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Wait: The tosu/mich game did good numbers.
Who cares other than the TV people, it’s a big rivalry and MICH hasn’t been good in 15 years...??
Kids don’t care.
Adults don’t care.
Network executives look up from their phones for a minute??
And it pisses you and Cargo off.
Priceless.
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Kids don’t care. Adults don’t care.
Well, not to be too obvious, but those big ratings mean somebody cares…..or did people just turn on their sets and go out and rake the yard?
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Wait: The tosu/mich game did good numbers.
Who cares other than the TV people, it’s a big rivalry and MICH hasn’t been good in 15 years...??
Kids don’t care.
Adults don’t care.
Network executives look up from their phones for a minute??
And it pisses you and Cargo off.
Priceless.
Amuses would be the word you are searching for...
...nobody disputes that there are a sh!tload of tosu fans and even some mich fans left to sell tostitos and beer and fast food too...how else would they know what to eat and fuel the charming midwestern fat belt...???
They watch TV.
They buy shit.
They eat shit.
They aren’t handing out awards or anything.
Hospital bills?? Sure...
That anyone on a sports forum would trot out RATINGS, not players, not play, not the game, as some sort of SIGNIFIER OF SOMETHING IMPORTANT is for real, HILARIOUS...
Does it fill that swirling sucking void that remains when neither is likely of any consequence in the big SHOW??
It must.
LOFUCKINGL of the SEASON...
Lace em up NIELSEN (cough)...
Pathetic
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Wait: The tosu/mich game did good numbers.
Who cares other than the TV people, it’s a big rivalry and MICH hasn’t been good in 15 years...??
Kids don’t care.
Adults don’t care.
Network executives look up from their phones for a minute??
And it pisses you and Cargo off.
Priceless.
Amuses would be the word you are searching for...
...nobody disputes that there are a sh!tload of tosu fans and even some mich fans left to sell tostitos and beer and fast food too...how else would they know what to eat and fuel the charming midwestern fat belt...???
They watch TV.
They buy shit.
They eat shit.
They aren’t handing out awards or anything.
Hospital bills?? Sure...
That anyone on a sports forum would trot out RATINGS, not players, not play, not the game, as some sort of SIGNIFIER OF SOMETHING IMPORTANT is for real, HILARIOUS...
Does it fill that swirling sucking void that remains when neither is likely of any consequence in the big SHOW??
It must.
LOFUCKINGL of the SEASON...
Lace em up NIELSEN (cough)...
Pathetic
Clemson grad
Enough said
( in a syncopated way, of course)
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Ohio State has one loss and looks like it has no chance to gain ground should Oklahoma win.
The Buckeyes play a four loss Northwestern school. The best matchup the Big Ten could apparently produce. The Wildcats have lost all three of their OOC games including a loss to the 4-7 and aptly named Akron Zips. Well, to be fair the Zips have one bowl game that I can remember. The Spud Bowl I think it was.
Yeah, the West suckex this year. Almost as bad as the South Atlantic League Coastal.
So I think it's safe to say that without a loss by the Sooners OSU won't be getting into the Football Four.
Do not be so sure. The C9mmittee seems to value wins more than they discount losses. For what it is worth, Oklahoma has given up 40 points or more in each of their last four games. The whole record matters, not just one team's bad game. And that actually might be better for them as they'd probably be favored playing whatever PAC team that gets thrown at them. Probably Washington. I'm sure their fans would be happier seeing them go out with a win.
Well, that is stupid. From personal experience, the chance to be in a playoff trumps the bowls, even if you get waxed. Maybe one day a team you root for will make it and you will see what I mean.
Yeah the ACC Coastal isn't all that.
You could be right. But I think for that to happen OSU has to hop Oklahoma tonight. Otherwise I'm not seeing it.
Not so fast my friend. Do not lose sight of the fact that the Committee reevaluates from scratch each week.
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Wait: The tosu/mich game did good numbers.
Who cares other than the TV people, it’s a big rivalry and MICH hasn’t been good in 15 years...??
Kids don’t care.
Adults don’t care.
Network executives look up from their phones for a minute??
And it pisses you and Cargo off.
Priceless.
I'm laughing at you twit. I've been laughing at you for about a decade now.
There used to be a professional wrestler called the Ultimate Warrior. He would run to the ring and shake the rope like a maniac in his little preening display.
You remind me of him. Only you are the Ultimate Homer.
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Ohio State has one loss and looks like it has no chance to gain ground should Oklahoma win.
The Buckeyes play a four loss Northwestern school. The best matchup the Big Ten could apparently produce. The Wildcats have lost all three of their OOC games including a loss to the 4-7 and aptly named Akron Zips. Well, to be fair the Zips have one bowl game that I can remember. The Spud Bowl I think it was.
Yeah, the West suckex this year. Almost as bad as the South Atlantic League Coastal.
So I think it's safe to say that without a loss by the Sooners OSU won't be getting into the Football Four.
Do not be so sure. The C9mmittee seems to value wins more than they discount losses. For what it is worth, Oklahoma has given up 40 points or more in each of their last four games. The whole record matters, not just one team's bad game. And that actually might be better for them as they'd probably be favored playing whatever PAC team that gets thrown at them. Probably Washington. I'm sure their fans would be happier seeing them go out with a win.
Well, that is stupid. From personal experience, the chance to be in a playoff trumps the bowls, even if you get waxed. Maybe one day a team you root for will make it and you will see what I mean.
Yeah the ACC Coastal isn't all that.
You could be right. But I think for that to happen OSU has to hop Oklahoma tonight. Otherwise I'm not seeing it.
Not so fast my friend. Do not lose sight of the fact that the Committee reevaluates from scratch each week.
Yes it's a weekly examination. Totally agree with that and onboard. But since the body of work has now been established for the regular season, that, as they say, is cut and dried.
So the Exsecutiva commissionibus has one game left to 'rate'. Much has been said about how they rate/favor the quality wins over the Bad losses. We have disagreed about that a shitload of times in the past. Me on one side you on the other. Well as I have often said this Quality Wins thing doesn't seem to ring true in this case. Or they would be ahead of Oklahoma as I type. They're not. OSU has the better BIG QW but they are still behind, regular season is over. Still behind.
No, I think the Committee is concerned about the blowout loss to Purdue just as they were concerned about the blowout loss to Iowa last year. QL for lack of a better term.
So, IMO, they will need to smoke Northwestern in order to get in. Much like they smoked paper tiger Wisconsin a short while back. Yes that could happen. Oklahoma however simply needs to win and they sort of erase the only blemish in their record, beating the one team they lost to in the regular season. A team that is 'currently' ranked in the Committee's Top 10 I might add.
I think only a loss by Oklahoma is going to change the Committee members mind. Because they are human. No matter how much they try and follow their rules that can be interpreted in several different ways by any one of them, they're human. They'll remember Clemson smoking OSU whether they consciously want to or not. They'll remember how Oklahoma gave Georgia all it wanted last year and how Georgia gave Bama all it wanted. They as humans want to whether knowingly or not have the games competitive.(To help with the ratings that Jim ejaculates all over himself on)[High ratings for Mich/OSU who would have thought it?] But I digress.
I believe they want a team to be able to lay 30 points on Bama if they meet. Of all the teams out there I can only think of three teams that would have a shot to lay 30+ points on Bama and OSU is not one of them.
Lastly, and it may just boil down to it's as simple as this, Oklahoma plays the significantly higher rated team in this last chance to garner points. The Big 10's Weak Sister Division could hurt them more than any other thing at this juncture of the evaluation period.(A severe lack of foresight on the Big 10's brass not to have Michigan St or Penn St(or both) in different Divisions than Michigan and OSU. So it will be incredibly tough for the Buckeyes to hop over the Sooners and the deck seems stacked against the Buckeyes. The Buckeyes IMO need a Longhorn victory. But as I always say, opinions vary. :-)
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25395660/oklahoma-ahead-ohio-state-was-right-call-cfp-committee
(http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25395660/oklahoma-ahead-ohio-state-was-right-call-cfp-committee)
Another opinion concerning the Oklahoma/OSU debate.
Some pertinent scale tipping parts of the article:
The committee went with Oklahoma at No. 5, putting the Sooners in a great position to move up into the final top four Sunday. It was the right decision for multiple reasons. The biggest is the worst-loss factor. No playoff-contending team should lose by 29 points to 6-6 Purdue (no offense, Boilermakers). The same argument holds this year as it did last year, when Ohio State was left out of the playoff in large part because of a 31-point loss to Iowa.
Yes, Ohio State has a better win than Oklahoma, and the way it crushed the rival Wolverines 62-39 impressed anybody who watched. But the committee also takes the long view when it comes to the entirety of a team's schedule to avoid the recency bias that comes with what happens in the days preceding the release of the rankings.
That is where the famous "eye test" comes into play. Before beating up on Michigan, Ohio State nearly lost to Maryland, a team that failed to reach bowl eligibility. It struggled against Nebraska, needing a second-half rally to put away another team that finished with a losing record. Over the final month of the season, more pundits questioned whether Urban Meyer had lost a grip on his team than whether this team was actually playoff-worthy.
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As bad as the defense has been, the offense has been the opposite. Oklahoma leads the nation in scoring (50.3 points per game) and total offense (583.8 yards per game), and as last weekend's 59-56 win over West Virginia showed, the Sooners can win with offense. OK, maybe they showed that throughout the season.
Finally, let's just compare résumés. Oklahoma ranks No. 5 in ESPN's Football Power Index; Ohio State ranks No. 6. Oklahoma ranks No. 34 in strength of schedule; Ohio State ranks No. 48. Oklahoma has three top-25 wins; Ohio State has two. The only metric where Ohio State is ahead is in strength of record: The Buckeyes are No. 5, and the Sooners are No. 6.
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The Big 10's Weak Sister Division could hurt them more than any other thing at this juncture of the evaluation period.(A severe lack of foresight on the Big 10's brass not to have Michigan St or Penn St(or both) in different Divisions than Michigan and OSU. So it will be incredibly tough for the Buckeyes to hop over the Sooners and the deck seems stacked against the Buckeyes. The Buckeyes IMO need a Longhorn victory. But as I always say, opinions vary. :-)
Foresight? They tried it your way. Most people in Big Whatever country do not have fond memories of the Leaders and Legends divisions.
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The Big 10's Weak Sister Division could hurt them more than any other thing at this juncture of the evaluation period.(A severe lack of foresight on the Big 10's brass not to have Michigan St or Penn St(or both) in different Divisions than Michigan and OSU. So it will be incredibly tough for the Buckeyes to hop over the Sooners and the deck seems stacked against the Buckeyes. The Buckeyes IMO need a Longhorn victory. But as I always say, opinions vary. :-)
Foresight? They tried it your way. Most people in Big Whatever country do not have fond memories of the Leaders and Legends divisions.
Except that the Leaders and Legends divisions weren't aligned as I suggested above. So mentioning that also fiasco is non-sequitur other than it being of the same fiascoish nature as the current fiasco. Please re-read.
When they realigned they simply flubbed it a second time.
My suggestion was to have PSU and MSU in the same division lets call it the Twinkie Divison. And Michigan and OSU in the same division the Cupcake Division.
Twinkie Div:
PSU
MSU
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Rutgers
Maryland
Minnesota
Cupcake Div:
Michigan
Indiana
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Iowa
OSU
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OLD-MAN WOODY
Seen as camera was panning around The Horseshoe during the Michigan game…..the names on the facing of the second deck—a kind of a ring of fame, as it were….There was the name Woody Hayes….it listed x-number of Big 10 titles (I forget how many) and five national titles…..Tends to kind of refocus Hayes legacy, does it not? You know, refocuses past the crazy old man running down the sidelines trying to punch a 250 pound Clemson linebacker who was fully outfitted in uniform (including helmet) and instead reminds one as to what is really important. Five national titles. Dabo—coach of the nuevo-elite, still working on number two. Currently only four national titles behind Woody.
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OLD-MAN WOODY
Seen as camera was panning around The Horseshoe during the Michigan game…..the names on the facing of the second deck—a kind of a ring of fame, as it were….There was the name Woody Hayes….it listed x-number of Big 10 titles (I forget how many) and five national titles…..Tends to kind of refocus Hayes legacy, does it not? You know, refocuses past the crazy old man running down the sidelines trying to punch a 250 pound Clemson linebacker who was fully outfitted in uniform (including helmet) and instead reminds one as to what is really important. Five national titles. Dabo—coach of the nuevo-elite, still working on number two. Currently only four national titles behind Woody.
Hayes was a helluva football coach.
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As it turned out USC solved the problem.
Nice to get Bear's take on the Bowl Playoff question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCrg5-63GSY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCrg5-63GSY)
I remember that Lou Holtz coached Razorback team. Helluva football team too.
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The Big 10's Weak Sister Division could hurt them more than any other thing at this juncture of the evaluation period.(A severe lack of foresight on the Big 10's brass not to have Michigan St or Penn St(or both) in different Divisions than Michigan and OSU. So it will be incredibly tough for the Buckeyes to hop over the Sooners and the deck seems stacked against the Buckeyes. The Buckeyes IMO need a Longhorn victory. But as I always say, opinions vary. :-)
Foresight? They tried it your way. Most people in Big Whatever country do not have fond memories of the Leaders and Legends divisions.
Except that the Leaders and Legends divisions weren't aligned as I suggested above. So mentioning that also fiasco is non-sequitur other than it being of the same fiascoish nature as the current fiasco. Please re-read.
When they realigned they simply flubbed it a second time.
My suggestion was to have PSU and MSU in the same division lets call it the Twinkie Divison. And Michigan and OSU in the same division the Cupcake Division.
Twinkie Div:
PSU
MSU
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Rutgers
Maryland
Minnesota
Cupcake Div:
Michigan
Indiana
Illinois
Northwestern
Purdue
Iowa
OSU
I am pretty sure there have been years when a division with Nebraska, Wisconsin and Iowa presented a pretty strong counterbalance to the east. And will again. The South Atlantic League and God's Conference have both had a similar lack of balance in recent years. God's Conference had a three loss team in its Championship Game two years ago, and they were the only team in that division over 500 in the Conference. Unbalanced divisions are the rule. It is just this year, two Conferences have a noticeable absence of a top team. Next year, Wisconsin or Miami will make.the problem go away.
What are you going to do, constantly realign divisions to obtain balance? If you do not do that, natural ebb and flow will unbalance things again. Trying to realign divisions based on today ignores the future. It is a short term solution to a long term problem.
There are also other sports, and rivalries you are pissing on. There is a reason the Big Whatever was the only Conference to try non-geographical alignment, and ditched it quickly.
And Leaders and Legends were divided on the same principle you suggest, except they kept UM and MSU together, and OSU and PSU together. Although at the time that was done, Nebraska and.Wisconsin and Iowa were superior programs to us.
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Like I said opinions vary.
But I'll reiterate that there will be no need to realign every year under my format, and partly that you're predicting what will most likely never happen. The glory days for Nebraska are gone and likely to stay gone. Wisconsin has proven to be more often than not just a paper Tiger.(Although they've had one or of good years where they were as good as advertised) PSU is on the way back. Michigan St is still holding its own in the State of Michigan and not letting the Wolverines take back the state recruiting-wise and has one of the best head coaches in the business. Michigan however seems to be recruiting better Nationally and that may start to make more of a difference and gain them some separation from their little brothers.
But as I said, I doubt the Huskers will ever be more than a footnote in any future college football notations. Iowa, good coach, that does well with what he has. In my format, using simple statistics for the teams involved, it will be better balanced year in and year out for both divisions. Making the Twinkie Division stronger is a must, and my format is IMO the best way to achieve that. Had the Big 10 come to me first they would have been better off.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions. They rejected that formula.for the same reason God's Conference does not sort Alabama and Auburn and LSU into separate divisions just because Tennessee has hit a rough patch.
Paper tiger Wisconsin has won its last four bowl games, including two New Years 6 games.
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OLD-MAN WOODY
Seen as camera was panning around The Horseshoe during the Michigan game…..the names on the facing of the second deck—a kind of a ring of fame, as it were….There was the name Woody Hayes….it listed x-number of Big 10 titles (I forget how many) and five national titles…..Tends to kind of refocus Hayes legacy, does it not? You know, refocuses past the crazy old man running down the sidelines trying to punch a 250 pound Clemson linebacker who was fully outfitted in uniform (including helmet) and instead reminds one as to what is really important. Five national titles. Dabo—coach of the nuevo-elite, still working on number two. Currently only four national titles behind Woody.
Hayes was a helluva football coach.
Hard to believe he had his name sullied and career ruined because some young punk deliberately ran into Hayes's hand.
Spoke to an old friend of mine, a fan of Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, and somehow the conversation turned to 1966. He started.to argue the canard that OLofPT did not play for a tie, when I reminded him, "Surely if these last two years have taught us anything, it is that shared objective reality no longer matters."
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I remember that Lou Holtz coached Razorback team. Helluva football team too.
I used to have a book about OSU (lost it somewhere along the way). Showed a picture of the coaching staff of their 1968 team—one of the all-time great college football teams. As I remember, Lou was one of the assistant coaches (among a staff of future great coaches) for that team. Little wonder with that coaching staff why they were so great. One of the best parts of that season? Beating future murderer O.J. Simpson in the Rose Bowl.
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Hard to believe he had his name sullied and career ruined because some young punk deliberately ran into Hayes's hand.
That incident was just the crowning moment of the final scene in Hayes career. Here was mighty Ohio State playing some unknown southern team (Clemson) on a cold, damp night in a third rate bowl game (Liberty Bowl if I recall correctly)….not the Rose Bowl, not the Orange Bowl, not the Sugar Bowl….but the Liberty Bowl….and losing to boot. I believe Woody just snapped over the all too obvious decline of the OSU program with him at the helm. For several years he had been taking teams with superior athletes to the Rose Bowl and losing to teams with more up to date systems. Now this sad ending in Memphis.
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Twenty years ago this weekend marked the start of the BCS era, the creation of the SEC’s Roy Kramer to avoid split national champs by staging a final game matching the number one and two teams.
The final weekend of play nearly resulted in complete chaos.
The final four going in were
Tennessee(11-0)
UCLA (11-0)
Kansas State(11-0)
Florida State(10-1)
But the new BCS Rating system was confusing to most and when Computer wizard Jeff Sagarin crunched his numbers he opined that if three top teams stayed undefeated Tennessee would drop to THIRD!
First up was UCLA, riding a 20 game win streak, and a hurricane-postponned game in Miami. A Bruin win meant a trip to the Fiesta Bowl for the NC for sure. But UCLA blew a 4th quarter lead
and Miami won the game 33-30.
When that score was announced at the Big 8 championship Game Kansas State fans were delirious since they were ahead of Texas A and M 17-3 in the second quarter. But K-State ultimately lost
in overtime when the Aggies, trying to set up field position for the tying field goal, saw K-State blow coverage and a simple slant pass when for the winning TD.
That left it to Tennessee to try and avoid total chaos in the standings.
The Vols did trail in the fourth quarter but pulled out a ten point win over Mississippi State in the SEC Championship.
So Florida State climbed to second and the Fiesta Bowl where Tennessee won the first BCS Title.
UCLA’s consolation was the Rose Bowl but it was smacked by Wisconsin.
Kansas State was the biggest post-season loser with the best Bowl available being the Alamo.
A deflated Wildcat team was upset by Drew Brees and un-ranked Purdue 37-34.
Which prompted a quick rule change by the NCAA called the K-State Rule.
That rule, still in effect now, specifies that the third-ranked team from an AQ conference (or fourth ranked if No. 3 is an automatic qualifier) is assured of an invitation to a BCS game.
What would have happened had Near-Chaos been complete?
Well fifth ranked Ohio State was 10-1(its loss was to Michigan State and Nick Saban).
It went on to handle A and M in the Sugar Bowl.
The Final BCS rankings
Tennessee
Florida State
Kansas State
Ohio State
UCLA
The BCS put college football on a national stage it could never have achieved before and 20 years later is more popular than ever.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
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Hard to believe he had his name sullied and career ruined because some young punk deliberately ran into Hayes's hand.
That incident was just the crowning moment of the final scene in Hayes career. Here was mighty Ohio State playing some unknown southern team (Clemson) on a cold, damp night in a third rate bowl game (Liberty Bowl if I recall correctly)….not the Rose Bowl, not the Orange Bowl, not the Sugar Bowl….but the Liberty Bowl….and losing to boot. I believe Woody just snapped over the all too obvious decline of the OSU program with him at the helm. For several years he had been taking teams with superior athletes to the Rose Bowl and losing to teams with more up to date systems. Now this sad ending in Memphis.
Yep, keep up with the game or it passes you by. Al Davis never got that.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
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Yeah, ‘‘twas the night before...
Fuck Woody Hayes, a minor pleasure to retire him...
...and, thanks for mentioning, loose bolts...
(yawn)
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
You have not identified a single substantive difference between Leaders and Legends and your cockamamie idea, except L and L switched MSU and PSU from your plan. That is it. Your way - dividing up the league by separating traditional powers - was precisely what the Big Whatever did. That the fourth team in that top 4 was not MSU but Nebraska points out the long term futility of your approach. And as always the wronger you know you are the more aggressive and insulting you get. You are like our very own Donald Trump.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
You have not identified a single substantive difference between Leaders and Legends and your cockamamie idea, except L and L switched MSU and PSU from your plan. That is it. Your way - dividing up the league by separating traditional powers - was precisely what the Big Whatever did. That the fourth team in that top 4 was not MSU but Nebraska points out the long term futility of your approach. And as always the wronger you know you are the more aggressive and insulting you get. You are like our very own Donald Trump.
More blah blah blah from you. The 'substantive' difference is clearly there to see for someone that 'wants' to see it. You don't.
You would rather spend your every waking hour finding ways to disagree with anything I say. As I said it's something in your mental makeup. Because the simple truth is that nobody would disagree with someone as much as you do me. The odds would rule against that eventuality as a long shot of the ages. I'm not an obvious dolt like James so you clearly have a problem.
It borders on a fixation, not healthy lad. I've outlined the reason for that problem several times over the years here. You and I both know exactly what it is.
Give it a rest for a few days, you're efforts are getting more imbecilic than usual. Go see a show, take a walk in the desert, ice skate on the moon, examine the inside of your rectum for the umpteenth time. Then come back with something at least resembling intelligence. Resembling might be the best you can do, but it would be an improvement.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
You have not identified a single substantive difference between Leaders and Legends and your cockamamie idea, except L and L switched MSU and PSU from your plan. That is it. Your way - dividing up the league by separating traditional powers - was precisely what the Big Whatever did. That the fourth team in that top 4 was not MSU but Nebraska points out the long term futility of your approach. And as always the wronger you know you are the more aggressive and insulting you get. You are like our very own Donald Trump.
More blah blah blah from you. The 'substantive' difference is clearly there to see for someone that 'wants' to see it. You don't.
Enlighten me then. What is the substantive difference, other than yours is based on the facts on the ground today, where as the system put in place in 2010 was based on the facts 9n the ground in 2010. You have not explained it, I suspect because there is none and like Donald Trump you view not merely admitting error as weakness, but being open to competing arguments and evidence as weakness as well.
You would rather spend your every waking hour finding ways to disagree with anything I say. As I said it's something in your mental makeup. Because the simple truth is that nobody would disagree with someone as much as you do me. The odds would rule against that eventuality as a long shot of the ages. I'm not an obvious dolt like James so you clearly have a problem.
I dispute with you when you say something stupid, or when you go full Trump and go into insult mode rather than admit you're opinion might.have flaws. That this seems to happen a lot should tell you something about you.
I suspect the reason you like to insult James so much is that he has consistently shown he knows more about the off field aspects of college football than you do. You have strong knowledge of the game on the field but the minute you talk about anything else you ARE an obvious dolt. And get abusive and insulting as soon as that gets pointed out to you.
It borders on a fixation, not healthy lad. I've outlined the reason for that problem several times over the years here. You and I both know exactly what it is.
Give it a rest for a few days, you're efforts are getting more imbecilic than usual. Go see a show, take a walk in the desert, ice skate on the moon, examine the inside of your rectum for the umpteenth time. Then come back with something at least resembling intelligence. Resembling might be the best you can do, but it would be an improvement.
As always, the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump. With less money and I suspect better hair.
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Fuck Woody Hayes, a minor pleasure to retire him...
Is that the same sort of pleasure you got when you were bragging about how Clemson hurt Braxton Miller and knocked him out of the game? Chump.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
You have not identified a single substantive difference between Leaders and Legends and your cockamamie idea, except L and L switched MSU and PSU from your plan. That is it. Your way - dividing up the league by separating traditional powers - was precisely what the Big Whatever did. That the fourth team in that top 4 was not MSU but Nebraska points out the long term futility of your approach. And as always the wronger you know you are the more aggressive and insulting you get. You are like our very own Donald Trump.
More blah blah blah from you. The 'substantive' difference is clearly there to see for someone that 'wants' to see it. You don't.
Enlighten me then. What is the substantive difference, other than yours is based on the facts on the ground today, where as the system put in place in 2010 was based on the facts 9n the ground in 2010. You have not explained it, I suspect because there is none and like Donald Trump you view not merely admitting error as weakness, but being open to competing arguments and evidence as weakness as well.
You would rather spend your every waking hour finding ways to disagree with anything I say. As I said it's something in your mental makeup. Because the simple truth is that nobody would disagree with someone as much as you do me. The odds would rule against that eventuality as a long shot of the ages. I'm not an obvious dolt like James so you clearly have a problem.
I dispute with you when you say something stupid, or when you go full Trump and go into insult mode rather than admit you're opinion might.have flaws. That this seems to happen a lot should tell you something about you.
I suspect the reason you like to insult James so much is that he has consistently shown he knows more about the off field aspects of college football than you do. You have strong knowledge of the game on the field but the minute you talk about anything else you ARE an obvious dolt. And get abusive and insulting as soon as that gets pointed out to you.
It borders on a fixation, not healthy lad. I've outlined the reason for that problem several times over the years here. You and I both know exactly what it is.
Give it a rest for a few days, you're efforts are getting more imbecilic than usual. Go see a show, take a walk in the desert, ice skate on the moon, examine the inside of your rectum for the umpteenth time. Then come back with something at least resembling intelligence. Resembling might be the best you can do, but it would be an improvement.
As always, the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump. With less money and I suspect better hair.
Go back and see who threw the first insult. November 28, 2018, 04:52:24 PM You crossed the line right then, 'Foolish', 'hermetically sealed' brain. Those aren't words of, hey Dude what's up how's the family.
And, as always, they gotten nastier as you've gone. So for something you say I do, but it's just to mask what you are actually guilty of beginning time and time again. Unfortunately that I then give you better than you give seems to, as always, unhinge you. You insult first and then blame me for the escalation because you are incapable of just letting it drop. Don't like the results? Don't complain about it like a child. Stop doing it. That's the answer.
Now you are up to Donald Trump and soon 'I'll be skewering babies while in my cups'. All because you can't just let a simple disagreement of opinions drop. You're driving need to be always right when it comes to any differences of opinion between us and your unwillingness to just let it drop is the problem. As I said I gave several opportunities for you to just let it be. You're ultra competiveness when it comes to me is childish.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
You have not identified a single substantive difference between Leaders and Legends and your cockamamie idea, except L and L switched MSU and PSU from your plan. That is it. Your way - dividing up the league by separating traditional powers - was precisely what the Big Whatever did. That the fourth team in that top 4 was not MSU but Nebraska points out the long term futility of your approach. And as always the wronger you know you are the more aggressive and insulting you get. You are like our very own Donald Trump.
More blah blah blah from you. The 'substantive' difference is clearly there to see for someone that 'wants' to see it. You don't.
Enlighten me then. What is the substantive difference, other than yours is based on the facts on the ground today, where as the system put in place in 2010 was based on the facts 9n the ground in 2010. You have not explained it, I suspect because there is none and like Donald Trump you view not merely admitting error as weakness, but being open to competing arguments and evidence as weakness as well.
You would rather spend your every waking hour finding ways to disagree with anything I say. As I said it's something in your mental makeup. Because the simple truth is that nobody would disagree with someone as much as you do me. The odds would rule against that eventuality as a long shot of the ages. I'm not an obvious dolt like James so you clearly have a problem.
I dispute with you when you say something stupid, or when you go full Trump and go into insult mode rather than admit you're opinion might.have flaws. That this seems to happen a lot should tell you something about you.
I suspect the reason you like to insult James so much is that he has consistently shown he knows more about the off field aspects of college football than you do. You have strong knowledge of the game on the field but the minute you talk about anything else you ARE an obvious dolt. And get abusive and insulting as soon as that gets pointed out to you.
It borders on a fixation, not healthy lad. I've outlined the reason for that problem several times over the years here. You and I both know exactly what it is.
Give it a rest for a few days, you're efforts are getting more imbecilic than usual. Go see a show, take a walk in the desert, ice skate on the moon, examine the inside of your rectum for the umpteenth time. Then come back with something at least resembling intelligence. Resembling might be the best you can do, but it would be an improvement.
As always, the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump. With less money and I suspect better hair.
Go back and see who threw the first insult. November 28, 2018, 04:52:24 PM You crossed the line right then, 'Foolish', 'hermetically sealed' brain. Those aren't words of, hey Dude what's up how's the family.
And, as always, they gotten nastier as you've gone. So for something you say I do, but it's just to mask what you are actually guilty of beginning time and time again. Unfortunately that I then give you better than you give seems to, as always, unhinge you. You insult first and then blame me for the escalation because you are incapable of just letting it drop. Don't like the results? Don't complain about it like a child. Stop doing it. That's the answer.
Now you are up to Donald Trump and soon 'I'll be skewering babies while in my cups'. All because you can't just let a simple disagreement of opinions drop. You're driving need to be always right when it comes to any differences of opinion between us and your unwillingness to just let it drop is the problem. As I said I gave several opportunities for you to just let it be. You're ultra competiveness when it comes to me is childish.
Same as it ever was. Never change, cap. Sputtering incoherent rage looks.good on you.
And you still cannot identify a single substantive difference between your proposal and Leaders and Legends.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
You have not identified a single substantive difference between Leaders and Legends and your cockamamie idea, except L and L switched MSU and PSU from your plan. That is it. Your way - dividing up the league by separating traditional powers - was precisely what the Big Whatever did. That the fourth team in that top 4 was not MSU but Nebraska points out the long term futility of your approach. And as always the wronger you know you are the more aggressive and insulting you get. You are like our very own Donald Trump.
More blah blah blah from you. The 'substantive' difference is clearly there to see for someone that 'wants' to see it. You don't.
Enlighten me then. What is the substantive difference, other than yours is based on the facts on the ground today, where as the system put in place in 2010 was based on the facts 9n the ground in 2010. You have not explained it, I suspect because there is none and like Donald Trump you view not merely admitting error as weakness, but being open to competing arguments and evidence as weakness as well.
You would rather spend your every waking hour finding ways to disagree with anything I say. As I said it's something in your mental makeup. Because the simple truth is that nobody would disagree with someone as much as you do me. The odds would rule against that eventuality as a long shot of the ages. I'm not an obvious dolt like James so you clearly have a problem.
I dispute with you when you say something stupid, or when you go full Trump and go into insult mode rather than admit you're opinion might.have flaws. That this seems to happen a lot should tell you something about you.
I suspect the reason you like to insult James so much is that he has consistently shown he knows more about the off field aspects of college football than you do. You have strong knowledge of the game on the field but the minute you talk about anything else you ARE an obvious dolt. And get abusive and insulting as soon as that gets pointed out to you.
It borders on a fixation, not healthy lad. I've outlined the reason for that problem several times over the years here. You and I both know exactly what it is.
Give it a rest for a few days, you're efforts are getting more imbecilic than usual. Go see a show, take a walk in the desert, ice skate on the moon, examine the inside of your rectum for the umpteenth time. Then come back with something at least resembling intelligence. Resembling might be the best you can do, but it would be an improvement.
As always, the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump. With less money and I suspect better hair.
Go back and see who threw the first insult. November 28, 2018, 04:52:24 PM You crossed the line right then, 'Foolish', 'hermetically sealed' brain. Those aren't words of, hey Dude what's up how's the family.
And, as always, they gotten nastier as you've gone. So for something you say I do, but it's just to mask what you are actually guilty of beginning time and time again. Unfortunately that I then give you better than you give seems to, as always, unhinge you. You insult first and then blame me for the escalation because you are incapable of just letting it drop. Don't like the results? Don't complain about it like a child. Stop doing it. That's the answer.
Now you are up to Donald Trump and soon 'I'll be skewering babies while in my cups'. All because you can't just let a simple disagreement of opinions drop. You're driving need to be always right when it comes to any differences of opinion between us and your unwillingness to just let it drop is the problem. As I said I gave several opportunities for you to just let it be. You're ultra competiveness when it comes to me is childish.
Same as it ever was. Never change, cap. Sputtering incoherent rage looks.good on you.
And you still cannot identify a single substantive difference between your proposal and Leaders and Legends.
More blah blah blah from you as expected.
As I said, if you go back and examine it the substantive difference between Leaders and Legends, and what is currently being used for that matter, and what I've suggested is as plain as day. I've even explained it you.
You're just willfully being a dick.
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Has LSU finally gotten their QB?
https://n.rivals.com/news/commitment-breakdown-lsu-beats-georgia-miami-and-others-for-max-johnson (https://n.rivals.com/news/commitment-breakdown-lsu-beats-georgia-miami-and-others-for-max-johnson)
Max Johnson is the No. 6 pro-style quarterback in the country and he has quietly been going through the recruiting process for two years. He does not talk about visits, he keeps to himself about his favorites and he has quietly committed to LSU.
Johnson is a national prospect with a national offer list, and he had been focused on Georgia, Miami, North Carolina, Wisconsin and LSU for some time without letting it be known.
Months ago, Johnson had let schools like Alabama and Ohio State they weren’t right for him. Johnson has camped at LSU, he has visited for numerous games and he and his family have built relationships with the coaching staff without publicizing it over the last 24 months. Now, the Tigers have beat out the in-state Bulldogs, Hurricanes, Tar Heels, Badgers and others for this Rivals100 talent
WHO IT HURTS MOST:
This one stings in Athens. Georgia has gone hard after Johnson for well over a year. Not only did the coaching staff recruit him, but some UGA commits have been involved too. He is 10 minutes away from the Georgia campus, he is arguably their top 2020 quarterback target, and to lose him to another SEC school, is tough.
Miami is right there with Georgia and you could say Florida State. Mark Richt is his uncle, so that is a strong family connection. His father, Brad Johnson played at Florida State, so there is a tie to Tallahassee too. The Seminoles were eliminated when Willie Taggart took the job due to his offense. The Hurricanes stayed in it, but Johnson wanted to go off and do his own thing.
Another school that was very much in this race was Wisconsin. Not many were talking about the Badgers, but Johnson quietly made quite a few trips to Madison and they finished No. 2 in this race.
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This game is always chippy. This might be one of the chippiest in quite awhile.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25404588/first-oklahoma-texas-rematch-115-years-fueled-trash-talk (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25404588/first-oklahoma-texas-rematch-115-years-fueled-trash-talk)
... After Texas defeated Iowa State, Longhorns defensive end Breckyn Hager was informed that Oklahoma's struggling defense had surrendered 40 points to last-place Kansas, making the Sooners the first team since the Associated Press poll debuted in 1936 to win three games in a row while still giving up at least 40 points.
Hager was walking back to the Texas locker room when he turned around and said, "Hey, OU has no defense."
Hager stopped again, pointed to a nearby clock and added: "Wait, wait -- it's 11:12 and what? OU still sucks." ...
LOL, now that's some good shit right there.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
You have not identified a single substantive difference between Leaders and Legends and your cockamamie idea, except L and L switched MSU and PSU from your plan. That is it. Your way - dividing up the league by separating traditional powers - was precisely what the Big Whatever did. That the fourth team in that top 4 was not MSU but Nebraska points out the long term futility of your approach. And as always the wronger you know you are the more aggressive and insulting you get. You are like our very own Donald Trump.
More blah blah blah from you. The 'substantive' difference is clearly there to see for someone that 'wants' to see it. You don't.
Enlighten me then. What is the substantive difference, other than yours is based on the facts on the ground today, where as the system put in place in 2010 was based on the facts 9n the ground in 2010. You have not explained it, I suspect because there is none and like Donald Trump you view not merely admitting error as weakness, but being open to competing arguments and evidence as weakness as well.
You would rather spend your every waking hour finding ways to disagree with anything I say. As I said it's something in your mental makeup. Because the simple truth is that nobody would disagree with someone as much as you do me. The odds would rule against that eventuality as a long shot of the ages. I'm not an obvious dolt like James so you clearly have a problem.
I dispute with you when you say something stupid, or when you go full Trump and go into insult mode rather than admit you're opinion might.have flaws. That this seems to happen a lot should tell you something about you.
I suspect the reason you like to insult James so much is that he has consistently shown he knows more about the off field aspects of college football than you do. You have strong knowledge of the game on the field but the minute you talk about anything else you ARE an obvious dolt. And get abusive and insulting as soon as that gets pointed out to you.
It borders on a fixation, not healthy lad. I've outlined the reason for that problem several times over the years here. You and I both know exactly what it is.
Give it a rest for a few days, you're efforts are getting more imbecilic than usual. Go see a show, take a walk in the desert, ice skate on the moon, examine the inside of your rectum for the umpteenth time. Then come back with something at least resembling intelligence. Resembling might be the best you can do, but it would be an improvement.
As always, the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump. With less money and I suspect better hair.
Go back and see who threw the first insult. November 28, 2018, 04:52:24 PM You crossed the line right then, 'Foolish', 'hermetically sealed' brain. Those aren't words of, hey Dude what's up how's the family.
And, as always, they gotten nastier as you've gone. So for something you say I do, but it's just to mask what you are actually guilty of beginning time and time again. Unfortunately that I then give you better than you give seems to, as always, unhinge you. You insult first and then blame me for the escalation because you are incapable of just letting it drop. Don't like the results? Don't complain about it like a child. Stop doing it. That's the answer.
Now you are up to Donald Trump and soon 'I'll be skewering babies while in my cups'. All because you can't just let a simple disagreement of opinions drop. You're driving need to be always right when it comes to any differences of opinion between us and your unwillingness to just let it drop is the problem. As I said I gave several opportunities for you to just let it be. You're ultra competiveness when it comes to me is childish.
Same as it ever was. Never change, cap. Sputtering incoherent rage looks.good on you.
And you still cannot identify a single substantive difference between your proposal and Leaders and Legends.
More blah blah blah from you as expected.
As I said, if you go back and examine it the substantive difference between Leaders and Legends, and what is currently being used for that matter, and what I've suggested is as plain as day. I've even explained it you.
No, you have not. You have simply stated it is somehow different. The only difference is L and L was.ser in 2010's reality and yours is 2018. You are blind to the idea that 2026 will likewise produce a set of facts leaving your fix out dated. The Big Whatever tried precisely what you recommend, and got rid.of it in 3 years.
You're just willfully being a dick.
You are being yourself, which as always works out the same.
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The Big Whatever already did precisely what you want the to do. Divided the traditional powers into two divisions.
Once again not the way I suggest. Which you seem to be willfully ignoring. You're good at that even though you have to know you aren't getting it by me.
They had the wrong formula. Fucked it up a second time too. That's the point I'm making and you've said little to change my mind.
You disagree, I get it.
The only difference between what the Big Whatever did in 2010 and what you propose is they aligned to divisions based on the strengths of the programs in 2010. That there would be a different alignment 8 years later underscores.the foolishness of your approach. That you think think there is any real difference between Leaders and Legends and your lineup, other than snark, underscores the hermetically sealed and locked nature.of your mind. That you will not change your mind when confronted with opposing facts is the sad reality anyone who ever posted with you has been forced to acknowledge.
You haven't given me any opposing 'facts' sufficient to change my position. Don't blame me because you were incapable of mounting a good enough argument to do so. Lashing out is some sort of defense mechanism inherent in your basic mental makeup. Try as I might I've never figured out a way to wean you off from it. And that is really my only failure.
The real sad reality is simply that. Your juvenile bordering on imbecilic attempts to blame me for your incompetence is something I've had to put up with for years.
Couldn't just agree to disagree once again. Although I provided you with several opportunities. C'est la gare.
You have not identified a single substantive difference between Leaders and Legends and your cockamamie idea, except L and L switched MSU and PSU from your plan. That is it. Your way - dividing up the league by separating traditional powers - was precisely what the Big Whatever did. That the fourth team in that top 4 was not MSU but Nebraska points out the long term futility of your approach. And as always the wronger you know you are the more aggressive and insulting you get. You are like our very own Donald Trump.
More blah blah blah from you. The 'substantive' difference is clearly there to see for someone that 'wants' to see it. You don't.
Enlighten me then. What is the substantive difference, other than yours is based on the facts on the ground today, where as the system put in place in 2010 was based on the facts 9n the ground in 2010. You have not explained it, I suspect because there is none and like Donald Trump you view not merely admitting error as weakness, but being open to competing arguments and evidence as weakness as well.
You would rather spend your every waking hour finding ways to disagree with anything I say. As I said it's something in your mental makeup. Because the simple truth is that nobody would disagree with someone as much as you do me. The odds would rule against that eventuality as a long shot of the ages. I'm not an obvious dolt like James so you clearly have a problem.
I dispute with you when you say something stupid, or when you go full Trump and go into insult mode rather than admit you're opinion might.have flaws. That this seems to happen a lot should tell you something about you.
I suspect the reason you like to insult James so much is that he has consistently shown he knows more about the off field aspects of college football than you do. You have strong knowledge of the game on the field but the minute you talk about anything else you ARE an obvious dolt. And get abusive and insulting as soon as that gets pointed out to you.
It borders on a fixation, not healthy lad. I've outlined the reason for that problem several times over the years here. You and I both know exactly what it is.
Give it a rest for a few days, you're efforts are getting more imbecilic than usual. Go see a show, take a walk in the desert, ice skate on the moon, examine the inside of your rectum for the umpteenth time. Then come back with something at least resembling intelligence. Resembling might be the best you can do, but it would be an improvement.
As always, the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump. With less money and I suspect better hair.
Go back and see who threw the first insult. November 28, 2018, 04:52:24 PM You crossed the line right then, 'Foolish', 'hermetically sealed' brain. Those aren't words of, hey Dude what's up how's the family.
And, as always, they gotten nastier as you've gone. So for something you say I do, but it's just to mask what you are actually guilty of beginning time and time again. Unfortunately that I then give you better than you give seems to, as always, unhinge you. You insult first and then blame me for the escalation because you are incapable of just letting it drop. Don't like the results? Don't complain about it like a child. Stop doing it. That's the answer.
Now you are up to Donald Trump and soon 'I'll be skewering babies while in my cups'. All because you can't just let a simple disagreement of opinions drop. You're driving need to be always right when it comes to any differences of opinion between us and your unwillingness to just let it drop is the problem. As I said I gave several opportunities for you to just let it be. You're ultra competiveness when it comes to me is childish.
Same as it ever was. Never change, cap. Sputtering incoherent rage looks.good on you.
And you still cannot identify a single substantive difference between your proposal and Leaders and Legends.
More blah blah blah from you as expected.
As I said, if you go back and examine it the substantive difference between Leaders and Legends, and what is currently being used for that matter, and what I've suggested is as plain as day. I've even explained it you.
No, you have not. You have simply stated it is somehow different. The only difference is L and L was.ser in 2010's reality and yours is 2018. You are blind to the idea that 2026 will likewise produce a set of facts leaving your fix out dated. The Big Whatever tried precisely what you recommend, and got rid.of it in 3 years.
You're just willfully being a dick.
You are being yourself, which as always works out the same.
More blah blah blah.
The BIG 10 did not do 'precisely' what I recommended. They tried twice to tweak their formula to get it correct, but they failed both times.
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the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump
hmmm...anyone else see a problem here?
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Why isn't anyone arguing about where Kliff Kingsbury is going to land? :)
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the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump
hmmm...anyone else see a problem here?
Calling someone "the forum Donald Trump" was too low a blow even for a forum where things like, "Go Fuck yourself, Forum Nazi" are.common?
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Why isn't anyone arguing about where Kliff Kingsbury is going to land? :)
Cleveland Browns OC?
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Calling someone "the forum Donald Trump" was too low a blow even for a forum where things like, "Go Fuck yourself, Forum Nazi" are.common?
I simply meant the relationship of the two sentences. You were berating him for hurling insults and then directly followed with what I assumed to be your preeminent insult.
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Calling someone "the forum Donald Trump" was too low a blow even for a forum where things like, "Go Fuck yourself, Forum Nazi" are.common?
I simply meant the relationship of the two sentences. You were berating him for hurling insults and then directly followed with what I assumed to be your preeminent insult.
I meant that descripitvely rather than pejoratively.
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Always entertaining...
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Why isn't anyone arguing about where Kliff Kingsbury is going to land? :)
I didn't know he was leaving.
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the shakier your ground, the more insulting you get. You really are the forum Donald Trump
hmmm...anyone else see a problem here?
Calling someone "the forum Donald Trump" was too low a blow even for a forum where things like, "Go Fuck yourself, Forum Nazi" are.common?
That's not what he meant bro. But it's cool, I'm trying my level best to be patient with you. I think I'm doing quite well compared to past events.
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Fuck Woody Hayes, a minor pleasure to retire him...
Is that the same sort of pleasure you got when you were bragging about how Clemson hurt Braxton Miller and knocked him out of the game? Chump.
Wrong, I wrote a post in admiration of Braxton Miller’s effort, the point of which was to illustrate that it was hard to hate/dismiss a team that had a player that demonstrated that kind of grit and heart. I love Braxton Miller for that game, I think you are remembering wrong.
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Well, I'll be doggied they did fire ole Cliff. Hmmm.
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Why isn't anyone arguing about where Kliff Kingsbury is going to land? :)
I didn't know he was leaving.
Fired.
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Well, I'll be doggied they did fire ole Cliff. Hmmm.
Kliff.
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Cliff ahem Kliff to Maryland? Louisville?
If Locksley goes to Maryland does Nicky scarf up Kliff?
Kliffy is a helluva QB whisperer.
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Cliff ahem Kliff to Maryland? Louisville?
If Locksley goes to Maryland does Nicky scarf up Kliff?
Kliffy is a helluva QB whisperer.
Supposedly - and I assume this why trojan posted it - he is the hot candidate for the USC OC job.
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Then again Tagovailoa doesn't seem to need a lot of whispering.
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Maybe Mack Brown has a chat with him.
And also money talks. Maybe whoever coughs up the larger dollarinos gets him.
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Maybe Babers gets scarfed by some Pro team and Klingsbury winds up un the dome. The Cuse has a very promising young QB.
That enough speculation for you Scotty? :)
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Okay, like Stevo says USC has reportedly made a deal with him.
I bet his phone was ringing a few times though with some Pro teams interested in him.
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Wrong, I wrote a post in admiration of Braxton Miller’s effort
There have been several posts from you on this subject—one of them crowing about what a bad-ass team Clemson had, illustrated by how they knocked Miller out of the game, etc. etc. But we will give you the benefit of the doubt when you do your revisionist Woody Hayes post where you acknowledge anyone who wins five national titles must have had something going for them as a coach.
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I know who woody Hayes is, but that’s all the acknowledgment I have of him.
I honestly couldn’t tell you a single team he beat with any confidence.
I know he threw a very, sports highlight all-timer of a weak punch at an undaunted Charlie Bauman, who had a sense of humor about the whole thing while woody was looking at a pair of Alzheimer’s concrete slippers.
He’s a cautionary tale I guess, but remembered only by the snowgloamearia, etc.
I acknowledge that he’s no prizefighter, and what’s more, that we have kinda cracked open a new century here...throw your zeroes and ones at his legacy, he’s a tumbleweed.
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Who says UCF can't beat Alabama. 70-64 UCF
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Take that Evil Empire!
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https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/ncaa-d1/ratings (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/ncaa-d1/ratings)
One reason why the Computers skewed things in a weird way in the old BCS format.
Not only does Massey still have LSU at #5 check out his power rankings. OSU at #10 and Oklahoma at #9
And look where Mizzou and Miss St are in the power rankings.
Like I always said back in the day when some folks were all-in on the computers being the end all. And the Sportwriters and Coaches were the problem. Like I always said, computers can't think. They can only run programs.
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we have kinda cracked open a new century here...
Howard Jones and Knute Rockne were fine football coaches!
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I know, right!!
Frank Howard, CLEM’s “BEAR” dammit!!
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I know who woody Hayes is, but that’s all the acknowledgment I have of him.
Of course! But you’ll be throwing a Clemson on-line circle jerk if your boy, Dabo the Clown, ever gets to as many as four national titles. But don’t be discouraged…..Nick Saban can’t last forever! Look on the bright side (as you would)….maybe he’ll get hit by a truck or come down with stage four cancer or something.
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I know who woody Hayes is, but that’s all the acknowledgment I have of him.
Of course! But you’ll be throwing a Clemson on-line circle jerk if your boy, Dabo the Clown, ever gets to as many as four national titles. But don’t be discouraged…..Nick Saban can’t last forever!
Ne Eric underestimate the powers of the Prince of Darkness.
In related news, reports are that Meyer will coach only through 2019, at.which point it will be a new Day at tOSU.
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The guy looked a little out of his nut in the Maryland game.
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The guy looked a little out of his nut in the Maryland game.
Yup….he’s looking a little ragged around the edges these days. And what is to explain the Iowa loss two years ago and Perdue this year? Those were not even close to being good teams. Both went on to tank after the OSU upset. Yet OSU won their three biggest challenges, PSU, MSU & Meatchicken. Hard to fathom….something in the coaching?
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Plus he gives himself headaches from being such an @sshole.
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utaustin looking to spoil sooner than later
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Looking good right now for whoever had the under.
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Overboys see daylight...
Illustrative of tosu schizophrenia is the inability or unwillingness of Vegas to put a number on it...
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St Johns of Minnesota giving Mary Hardin-Baylor all the want. 7-3 game right now. What a huge upset that would be if the Cru went down.
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Overboys see daylight...
Illustrative of tosu schizophrenia is the inability or unwillingness of Vegas to put a number on it...
You are starting to grow as tedious as a trapper.
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lotta football so far in the first few minutes in this one
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just saw this
FanDuel already paying out Bama bettors for winning the national championship.
lets call it a loss leader, using a team that has as of now, not suffered a loss.
https://nypost.com/2018/12/01/fanduel-pays-out-bets-on-alabama-title-win-ahead-of-game/ (https://nypost.com/2018/12/01/fanduel-pays-out-bets-on-alabama-title-win-ahead-of-game/)
FanDuel sportsbook is paying out bets from people who picked Alabama to win the college football national championship — over a month before the game will be played.
The company announced Friday night it is treating the top-ranked Crimson Tide as the winners already, and paid out single-game bets to customers’ online or mobile accounts. Those who made bets in person can bring their winning slips to that location to be paid.
Alabama also is being marked as a winner on parlay bets that included the necessity of it winning the title.
FanDuel says the move could cost it $400,000.
KoD
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Dawgs came to play. Tide making some stupid mistakes.
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Harden-Baylor ekes out a win 21-18 in a hard contested battle.
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Tide receivers have dropsy problems.
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that was an impressive, smash-mouth answer by Ga.
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Georgia looks pretty good. Alabama going to be showing some things they were holding to keep secret for later in the year.
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Overboys see daylight...
Illustrative of tosu schizophrenia is the inability or unwillingness of Vegas to put a number on it...
You are starting to grow as tedious as a trapper.
I don’t know the reference/idiom but I’m going to take that as a compliment.
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Welcome to the tosu’s worst nightmare:
There is no woodshed large enough to eclipse the resume of ALA.
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Yeah...I think there is going to be a revolt by the presidents of The Pac, The Big and The Big.
Alabama loses...they get in anyway. And the bastards probably win the national championship again regardless. Damn Yankees
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Heisman up for grabs.
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that 4th and 11 fake punt may have been the worst play call in a big game I've ever seen.
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Those media swellheads who questioned Saban’s 2 QB strategy are now sucking eggs.
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Unlike 4 spot...
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Overboys see daylight...
Illustrative of tosu schizophrenia is the inability or unwillingness of Vegas to put a number on it...
You are starting to grow as tedious as a trapper.
I don’t know the reference/idiom but I’m going to take that as a compliment.
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs is streaming on Netflix.
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Yeah...I think there is going to be a revolt by the presidents of The Pac, The Big and The Big.
A revolt over what?
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Welcome to the tosu’s worst nightmare:
Or not. I still think a loss would have put Bama out, but it is moot now.
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My 2 buddies on text thread have been touting Ballad, esp. Waits, so I’m in, eventually.
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Speechless.
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The Ballad of Buster Scruggs is streaming on Netflix.
Contender for Best Western Ever.
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A revolt over what?
I used to think you were pretending
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A revolt over what?
I used to think you were pretending
LOL!
Oklahoma has a team in the final four
Ohio State only has itself to blame for missing out
That leaves only the PAC 12 without a bona fide contender but still a spot in the Rose Bowl.
What is there to “revolt” about?
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A revolt over what?
I used to think you were pretending
I think he is spending too much time hanging out with RedStateWard from the political forums.
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A revolt over what?
I used to think you were pretending
LOL!
Oklahoma has a team in the final four
Ohio State only has itself to blame for missing out
That leaves only the PAC 12 without a bona fide contender but still a spot in the Rose Bowl.
What is there to “revolt” about?
Look at the time stamp on trojan's post for context.
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A revolt over what?
I used to think you were pretending
LOL!
Oklahoma has a team in the final four
Ohio State only has itself to blame for missing out
That leaves only the PAC 12 without a bona fide contender but still a spot in the Rose Bowl.
What is there to “revolt” about?
Look at the time stamp on trojan's post for context.
Changes nothing. There is still nothing to revolt over even if Georgia won.
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I could use fucking Keystone right now, you appy logic to evidence nobody’s gone ever get it right...
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If we don’t smoke DOME, fu<k me, I’ll accept the heat...
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I'm going with
1-Bama
2-Clemson
3-ND
4-Okie
5-tOSU
6-Georgia
and fwiw I thought UGA was the better team for the most part yesterday but...
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Agree with Bank's 4, and don't think Georgia has an argument at all.
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I'm going with
1-Bama
2-Clemson
3-ND
4-Okie
5-tOSU
6-Georgia
and fwiw I thought UGA was the better team for the most part yesterday but...
Probably right, but the Committee says it values wins over losses, and tOSU has the two best wins among the contenders.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
Like I said "style points"
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Oklahoma - ND final
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
Yes, so if Texas had won, OSU would have been 4th and Georgia 5th. Committee was not putting a.2 loss non champ over a 1 loss champ. Like the Constitution the Committee is not a suicide pact.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
And since OSU is behind Georgia there is a good chance that Georgia was thought to be the better team of all three. And only a 'technicality' kept them out. One way or the other.
But I suppose it's better for the Conferences this way and thus the somewhat arbitrary 'rule'. Or convenient may be a better definition.
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Oklahoma - ND final
You putting any money on that?
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Looks like the Committee may have been attuned to my QL theory(Quality Loss) just as much as the Quality Win premise. Possibly more.
Georgia lost to #1 Bama and #11 LSU
Michigan lost to #3 ND and #6 OSU
Washington lost to an unranked team Auburn but it was the beginning of the season and all of their losses were very close.
Florida lost to #5 Georgia, #14 Kentucky and #23 Mizzou
LSU lost to comparable teams #1 Bama, #10 Florida and #19 Texas A&M but had the misfortune of losing late.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
And since OSU is behind Georgia there is a good chance that Georgia was thought to be the better team of all three. And only a 'technicality' kept them out. One way or the other.
But I suppose it's better for the Conferences this way and thus the somewhat arbitrary 'rule'. Or convenient may be a better definition.
Just as the "technicality" of tOSU getting smoked by tPurdue kept them out and the technicality of tPSU losing to every good team they played kept kept them out. If you consider losing twice, not being a conference champion and gacking up a huge lead in your most important game a technicality, so be it. Second losses are poison.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
And since OSU is behind Georgia there is a good chance that Georgia was thought to be the better team of all three. And only a 'technicality' kept them out. One way or the other.
But I suppose it's better for the Conferences this way and thus the somewhat arbitrary 'rule'. Or convenient may be a better definition.
Just as the "technicality" of tOSU getting smoked by tPurdue kept them out and the technicality of tPSU losing to every good team they played kept kept them out. If you consider losing twice, not being a conference champion and gacking up a huge lead in your most important game a technicality, so be it. Second losses are poison.
First, this isn't 1978. In this day and age 14 points isn't an insurmountable lead by any means. And the Purdue loss goes to bostler my QL data point at the other end of the scale.
I'm simply saying the fact that the Committee placed 2 loss Georgia ahead of one loss OSU is interesting. And an extropolation can therefore be put forward.
My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit. Anyone with an ounce of objectivity(and didn't want to duspute everything I say including water is wet)would have to say the idea has merit. Ease off the trigger Bro, it's just ideas.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
And since OSU is behind Georgia there is a good chance that Georgia was thought to be the better team of all three. And only a 'technicality' kept them out. One way or the other.
Obviously not since it failed to win its conference.
Once that part of the protocol was met Georgia is out. That is not a technicality it is a protocol the Committee took time to explain.
But I suppose it's better for the Conferences this way.
Of course.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
And since OSU is behind Georgia there is a good chance that Georgia was thought to be the better team of all three. And only a 'technicality' kept them out. One way or the other.
Obviously not since it failed to win its conference.
Once that part of the protocol was met Georgia is out. That is not a technicality it is a protocol the Committee took time to explain.
Call it what you will.
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My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit.
Well, it is the rule as the Committee reinforced today. Please take note of this for future reference.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
And since OSU is behind Georgia there is a good chance that Georgia was thought to be the better team of all three. And only a 'technicality' kept them out. One way or the other.
But I suppose it's better for the Conferences this way and thus the somewhat arbitrary 'rule'. Or convenient may be a better definition.
Just as the "technicality" of tOSU getting smoked by tPurdue kept them out and the technicality of tPSU losing to every good team they played kept kept them out. If you consider losing twice, not being a conference champion and gacking up a huge lead in your most important game a technicality, so be it. Second losses are poison.
First, this isn't 1978. In this day and age 14 points isn't an insurmountable lead by any means. And the Purdue loss goes to bostler my QL data point at the other end of the scale.
I'm simply saying the fact that the Committee placed 2 loss Georgia ahead of one loss OSU is interesting. And an extropolation can therefore be put forward.
My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit. Anyone with an ounce of objectivity(and didn't want to duspute everything I say including water is wet)would have to say the idea has merit. Ease off the trigger Bro, it's just ideas.
Why is rule in quotes? It is not a technicality, it is a design feature.
If I had my way it would be limited to conference champs. The committee deciding based on their actual protocols rather than my ideas does not make it a technicality. Anyway, for the fifth year in a row the Committee did a good, consistent job of putting the right teams in the playoffs.
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Oklahoma - ND final
You putting any money on that?
With the points, yes. Likely.
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My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit.
Well, it is the rule as the Committee reinforced today. Please take note of this for future reference.
To aid you in your msunderstanding they didn't reinforce anything. Simply used one of the out tools they gave themselves.
There's something for your immediate reference. Always willing to help you fully undersand old Skip.
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looks like Georgia got style points for yesterday's loss
5/6 is irrelevant. The Committee continues to punish that second loss. And take God's Conference at its own self image.
its irrelevant as to 1-4
I thought they would punish Ga's 2nd loss by putting them at 6.
But they saw what most watching that game saw, arguably a top 4 team that probably should have won that game, and put them ahead of tOSU.
so they gave them style points for yesterday's loss.
but they also put a 2-loss team ahead of a 1-loss Power-5 conf champ.
I'll leave it to CFB historians and others whether that shifts the landscape for future debates.
Not to get in the playoffs.
5/6 changes nothing. They would go to the same bowl regardless.
The battle for the fourth spot was explained by CFP Chairman Rob Mullens to ESPN:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
“In this instance, when one team wasn’t unequivocally better than the other, we went to the protocol, and on this one, the one-loss conference champion carried the day,”
The Conference Champion got rewarded just as the system has been designed to do.
And since OSU is behind Georgia there is a good chance that Georgia was thought to be the better team of all three. And only a 'technicality' kept them out. One way or the other.
But I suppose it's better for the Conferences this way and thus the somewhat arbitrary 'rule'. Or convenient may be a better definition.
Just as the "technicality" of tOSU getting smoked by tPurdue kept them out and the technicality of tPSU losing to every good team they played kept kept them out. If you consider losing twice, not being a conference champion and gacking up a huge lead in your most important game a technicality, so be it. Second losses are poison.
First, this isn't 1978. In this day and age 14 points isn't an insurmountable lead by any means. And the Purdue loss goes to bostler my QL data point at the other end of the scale.
I'm simply saying the fact that the Committee placed 2 loss Georgia ahead of one loss OSU is interesting. And an extropolation can therefore be put forward.
My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit. Anyone with an ounce of objectivity(and didn't want to duspute everything I say including water is wet)would have to say the idea has merit. Ease off the trigger Bro, it's just ideas.
Why is rule in quotes? It is not a technicality, it is a design feature.
A technical design feature.
If I had my way it would be limited to conference champs. The committee deciding based on their actual protocols rather than my ideas does not make it a
technicality. Anyway, for the fifth year in a row the Committee did a good, consistent job of putting the right teams in the playoffs.
And if I had my way there would be different design technicalities.
But I agree with you that the Committee has done a good job so far. I'm not so solid on the consistant part but a good job. It's never going to make everyone happy.
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My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit.
Well, it is the rule as the Committee reinforced today. Please take note of this for future reference.
To aid you in your msunderstanding they didn't reinforce anything.
Oh, but the Committee did.
The protocol that says that when teams are close, certain factors will take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions
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My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit.
Well, it is the rule as the Committee reinforced today. Please take note of this for future reference.
To aid you in your msunderstanding they didn't reinforce anything.
Oh, but the Committee did.
The protocol that says that when teams are close, certain factors will take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions
Okay if it makes you happy we'll use the word reinforce instead of saying taking their pre-designated out. See, I can compromise. :-)
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My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit.
Well, it is the rule as the Committee reinforced today. Please take note of this for future reference.
To aid you in your msunderstanding they didn't reinforce anything.
Oh, but the Committee did.
The protocol that says that when teams are close, certain factors will take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions
Okay if it makes you happy we'll use the word reinforce instead of saying taking their pre-designated out. See, I can compromise. :-)
“ pre-designated out” of what?
Georgia did not qualify for the playoff
Period.
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My theory that without the Conference Champion "rule" Georgia could well be in the Football four has merit.
Well, it is the rule as the Committee reinforced today. Please take note of this for future reference.
To aid you in your msunderstanding they didn't reinforce anything.
Oh, but the Committee did.
The protocol that says that when teams are close, certain factors will take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions
Okay if it makes you happy we'll use the word reinforce instead of saying taking their pre-designated out. See, I can compromise. :-)
“ pre-designated out” of what?
Georgia did not qualify for the playoff
Period.
Easy Skip, don't come unglued.
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I mean don't blame me for seeing reality. The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences. Had they ranked Georgia lower than OSU the whole thing would have been cut and dried.
But.
The fact that they didn't means there is a real possibility that had there been no CG technicality rule Georgia might be in the football four. This is simple 101 logic. Why this makes everyone crazy I can only assume is because I said it. Had the thought been broached by YG or Rich I don't believe there would be such a ruckus over it.
But then I am the Reggie Jackson of the forum I suppose. The straw that stirs the drink. What would you guys do without me. ;-)
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I mean don't blame me for seeing reality. The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences. Had they ranked Georgia lower than OSU the whole thing would have been cut and dried.
But.
The fact that they didn't means there is a real possibility that had there been no CG technicality rule Georgia might be in the football four.
Well, no. Georgia was dropped as a 2 loss non-champion. Disqualified from consideration by rule. Please make note of this(again) in case it comes up again. Had Oklahoma had two losses Georgia would have lost out to one-loss Big Ten Champ Ohio State.
Enjoy the Citrus Bowl. Orlando is a lot of fun.
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Don't worry. I never would have broached the idea that this Georgia team deserved to be in the playoffs.
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We dodged the Pinstripe Bowl! Wish I had the time to head out.to Santa Clara.
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Your 2018 Bowl Schedule. I plan on opening a pool in Yahoo as soon after it lets me.
December 15
Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl
North Carolina A&T vs. Alcorn State
New Mexico Bowl
North Texas vs. Utah State
AutoNation Cure Bowl
Tulane vs. Louisiana
Mitsubishi Motors Las Vegas Bowl
Fresno State vs. Arizona State
Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Georgia Southern vs. Eastern Michigan
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Middle Tennessee vs Appalachian State
December 18
Cheribundi Boca Raton Bowl
UAB vs. Northern Illinois
December 19
DXL Frisco Bowl
San Diego State vs. Ohio
December 20
Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl
Marshall vs. South Florida
Makers Wanted Bahamas Bowl
FIU vs. Toledo
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Western Michigan vs. BYU
December 22
Jared Birmingham Bowl
Memphis vs. Wake Forest
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Houston vs. Army
Dollar General Bowl
Buffalo vs. Troy
SoFi Hawai'i Bowl
Louisiana Tech vs. Hawaii
December 26
SERVPRO First Responder Bowl
Boston College vs. Boise State
Quick Lane Bowl
Minnesota vs. Georgia Tech
Cheez-It Bowl
California vs. TCU
December 27
Walk-On's Independence Bowl
Temple vs. Duke
New Era Pinstripe Bowl
Miami vs. Wisconsin
Academy Sports + Outdoors Texas Bowl
Baylor vs. Vanderbilt
December 28
Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Purdue vs. Auburn
Camping World Bowl
West Virginia vs. Syracuse
Valero Alamo Bowl
Iowa State vs. Washington State
December 29
Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
No. 10 Florida vs. No. 7 Michigan
Belk Bowl
South Carolina vs. Virginia
NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl
Arkansas State vs. Nevada
College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
No. 2 Clemson vs. No. 3 Notre Dame
College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Capital One Orange Bowl
No. 1 Alabama vs. No. 4 Oklahoma
December 31
Military Bowl Presented by Northrop Grumman
Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech
Hyundai Sun Bowl
Stanford vs. Pittsburgh
Redbox Bowl
Michigan State vs. Oregon
AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Missouri vs. Oklahoma State
San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl
Northwestern vs. Utah
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl
NC State vs. Texas A&M
January 1
Outback Bowl
Mississippi State vs. Iowa
VRBO Citrus Bowl
Kentucky vs. Penn State
PlayStation Fiesta Bowl
No. 11 LSU vs. No. 8 UCF
Rose Bowl Game Presented by Northwestern Mutual
No. 9 Washington vs. No. 6 Ohio State
Allstate Sugar Bowl
No. 15 Texas vs. No. 5 Georgia
January 7
College Football Playoff National Championship Presented By AT&T
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And allow me to be the first to congratulate Florida on their Peach Bowl win.
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I mean don't blame me for seeing reality. The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences. Had they ranked Georgia lower than OSU the whole thing would have been cut and dried.
But.
The fact that they didn't means there is a real possibility that had there been no CG technicality rule Georgia might be in the football four. This is simple 101 logic. Why this makes everyone crazy I can only assume is because I said it. Had the thought been broached by YG or Rich I don't believe there would be such a ruckus over it.
But then I am the Reggie Jackson of the forum I suppose. The straw that stirs the drink. What would you guys do without me. ;-)
I’m the guy who takes the straw out of the drink, shakes the fucking drink stirrer and drinks the fucking drink of this forum, Reggie...
Remember I said that, you don’t tune in for Archie and Edith cutting it up, bitches, you run the dial for Meathead...
For the clever sh!t...otherwise this is the Punch and Judy show with a couple of tosu marionettes, troj, and a regional bigot...
You are dismissed.
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So sensitive
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I mean don't blame me for seeing reality. The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences. Had they ranked Georgia lower than OSU the whole thing would have been cut and dried.
But.
The fact that they didn't means there is a real possibility that had there been no CG technicality rule Georgia might be in the football four. This is simple 101 logic. Why this makes everyone crazy I can only assume is because I said it. Had the thought been broached by YG or Rich I don't believe there would be such a ruckus over it.
But then I am the Reggie Jackson of the forum I suppose. The straw that stirs the drink. What would you guys do without me. ;-)
"Yourself" being one of the two things you are full of.
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And allow me to be the first to congratulate Florida on their Peach Bowl win.
The playoff format has rendered that game and others meaningless.
But have at it.
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Unless you actually believe a recruit would say, "Well.....that Peach Bowl...nope, I just cannot sign to play for Michigan."
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And allow me to be the first to congratulate Florida on their Peach Bowl win.
The playoff format has rendered that game and others meaningless.
But have at it.
If anything, the significance of the Peach Bowl has increased by its elevation in status. But generally, bowls retain the same level of significance in the playoff era as that always had.
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Yahoo College Football Bowl Pick 'em.
League Name: Escape From Elba
Password: GoMSU#1
In order for cap to keep his pledge lifelong fealty to God's Conference, sworn on Billy Cannon's jock and reaffirmed over the cold corpse of Mike Silve, he is free to read the password as a reference to Mississippi State.
Almost let that typo stay, but Rice is not in a bowl and i did not want to make you feel you were limited to only the Walk-On Independence Bowl.
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I mean don't blame me for seeing reality. The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences. Had they ranked Georgia lower than OSU the whole thing would have been cut and dried.
But.
The fact that they didn't means there is a real possibility that had there been no CG technicality rule Georgia might be in the football four.
Well, no. Georgia was dropped as a 2 loss non-champion. Disqualified from consideration by rule. Please make note of this(again) in case it comes up again. Had Oklahoma had two losses Georgia would have lost out to one-loss Big Ten Champ Ohio State.
Enjoy the Citrus Bowl. Orlando is a lot of fun.
By a rule becomes arbitrary by default because of a grading process that is impossible to quantify with an exact set of parameters. I know this is a lesson in higher logic that you may simply be incapable of understanding so I won't hold it against you. That allows the Committee the leeway to say the teams are basically equal rather than doing their job and simply rating them. A rule that was put in place to keep the conferences from revolting as someone else had mentioned earlier. I understand you don't see the subtleties of their grading process. It's as bad as the rules on congress in some regards. Built to protect the established powers that be. Please try and understand this for the first time.
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And allow me to be the first to congratulate Florida on their Peach Bowl win.
The Michigan defense will be without a lot of key players from what I hear. A trend I'm finding both distasteful yet understandable. Any of the Spartans sitting the game out?
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I mean don't blame me for seeing reality. The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences. Had they ranked Georgia lower than OSU the whole thing would have been cut and dried.
But.
The fact that they didn't means there is a real possibility that had there been no CG technicality rule Georgia might be in the football four. This is simple 101 logic. Why this makes everyone crazy I can only assume is because I said it. Had the thought been broached by YG or Rich I don't believe there would be such a ruckus over it.
But then I am the Reggie Jackson of the forum I suppose. The straw that stirs the drink. What would you guys do without me. ;-)
I’m the guy who takes the straw out of the drink, shakes the fucking drink stirrer and drinks the fucking drink of this forum, Reggie...
Remember I said that, you don’t tune in for Archie and Edith cutting it up, bitches, you run the dial for Meathead...
For the clever sh!t...otherwise this is the Punch and Judy show with a couple of tosu marionettes, troj, and a regional bigot...
You are dismissed.
I commend you for your chutzpah Billy errr JB have another.
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And allow me to be the first to congratulate Florida on their Peach Bowl win.
The playoff format has rendered that game and others meaningless.
But have at it.
I watch football to be entertained and that means something to me. Why do you watch it?
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The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences.
What I derived from their comment was that they did not see much difference between Georgia and Oklahoma. Therefore they went to the guidance of conference champions and put Oklahoma above Georgia.
Apparently, OSU was not in that "cluster" for discussion purposes--meaning they did not see them as being as good as the other two. Otherwise, as conference champion, they would also have been ranked above Georgia.
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Yahoo College Football Bowl Pick 'em.
League Name: Escape From Elba
Password: GoMSU#1
In order for cap to keep his pledge lifelong fealty to God's Conference, sworn on Billy Cannon's jock and reaffirmed over the cold corpse of Mike Silve, he is free to read the password as a reference to Mississippi State.
Almost let that typo stay, but Rice is not in a bowl and i did not want to make you feel you were limited to only the Walk-On Independence Bowl.
And here I expected the password to be Reggie.
Sidenote: I would have liked to see both MSU's face each other in a bowl game.
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The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences.
What I derived from their comment was that they did not see much difference between Georgia and Oklahoma. Therefore they went to the guidance of conference champions and put Oklahoma above Georgia.
Apparently, OSU was not in that "cluster" for discussion purposes--meaning they did not see them as being as good as the other two. Otherwise, as conference champion, they would also have been ranked above Georgia.
This is what I read from Mullens:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
The three were apparently in a dead three way heat. And so using their out rule Georgia was out no matter which they chose to be 4th Oklahoma or OSU. What is interesting is that "after" that Georgia was somehow deemed better than OSU. So apparently they weren't as 'tied' as was indicated. As to the Conference Champion rule I believe that only applies to the top 4. But I could be wrong on that. Logically if it were still in place OSU would have been placed ahead of Georgia for the same reason Oklahoma was placed ahead of Georgia.
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The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences.
What I derived from their comment was that they did not see much difference between Georgia and Oklahoma. Therefore they went to the guidance of conference champions and put Oklahoma above Georgia.
Apparently, OSU was not in that "cluster" for discussion purposes--meaning they did not see them as being as good as the other two. Otherwise, as conference champion, they would also have been ranked above Georgia.
This is what I read from Mullens:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
Three were apparently in a dead three way heat. And so using their out rule Georgia was out no matter which they chose to be 4th. What is interesting in that "after" that Georgia was somehow deemed better than OSU. So apparently they weren't as 'tied' as was indicated. As to the Conference Champion rule I believe that only applies to the top 4. But I could be wrong on that.
I wonder what in their protocol elevated Oklahoma over tOSU. They value wins over losses; tOSU having both the worse loss and two best wins (PSU and Meats both ranking better than anyone OK played.). Did the slightly, though real, difference in the TCU game mean that much? My own thought was the tOSU was hurt as much. Y the Nebraska and Maryland wins as the loss. That 4 game stretch of not looking great may have confirmed the views formed in light of.Purdue.
At any rate, I read Mullens's statement as you did. Had the Committee thought tOSU better than Oklahoma, tOSU 2ould have been fourth. Having twice elevated a one loss non champ over a two loss champ it would have been hard to justify a two loss non champ over a o e loss champ in the playoffs.
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The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences.
What I derived from their comment was that they did not see much difference between Georgia and Oklahoma. Therefore they went to the guidance of conference champions and put Oklahoma above Georgia.
Apparently, OSU was not in that "cluster" for discussion purposes--meaning they did not see them as being as good as the other two. Otherwise, as conference champion, they would also have been ranked above Georgia.
This is what I read from Mullens:
In the end, what we decided was amongst the group of three, Oklahoma, Georgia and (12-1) Ohio State, that no one was unequivocally better than the others. So we leaned on the protocol.
(That protocol says that when teams are that close, certain factors should take precedence, the most notable of those being “conference champions.)
Three were apparently in a dead three way heat. And so using their out rule Georgia was out no matter which they chose to be 4th. What is interesting in that "after" that Georgia was somehow deemed better than OSU. So apparently they weren't as 'tied' as was indicated. As to the Conference Champion rule I believe that only applies to the top 4. But I could be wrong on that.
I wonder what in their protocol elevated Oklahoma over tOSU. They value wins over losses; tOSU having both the worse loss and two best wins (PSU and Meats both ranking better than anyone OK played.). Did the slightly, though real, difference in the TCU game mean that much? My own thought was the tOSU was hurt as much. Y the Nebraska and Maryland wins as the loss. That 4 game stretch of not looking great may have confirmed the views formed in light of.Purdue.
At any rate, I read Mullens's statement as you did. Had the Committee thought tOSU better than Oklahoma, tOSU 2ould have been fourth. Having twice elevated a one loss non champ over a two loss champ it would have been hard to justify a two loss non champ over a o e loss champ in the playoffs.
Good thoughts. If might be as simple as the non-Quality wins you mention over Nebraska and Maryland. That and I think the Sooners got a little bit of a pass on the their terrible defense by the Committee but they gave no such pass to the Buckeyes for their weakish(for lack of a better term) defense. Either way it was close between all three. And IMO the, gee shit they're close what do we do Sheriff Ricochet? , rule comes to their rescue.
We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
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I also wonder if "close wins against terrible teams" factors in. If Maryland's QB had better footwork he would have completed the two-point conversion against OSU.
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I essentially just asked what Capn' posted. Slow computer.
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I essentially just asked what Capn' posted. Slow computer.
Actually Steve said it first. But it's as good as a reason as any I guess.
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The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences.
What I derived from their comment was that they did not see much difference between Georgia and Oklahoma. Therefore they went to the guidance of conference champions and put Oklahoma above Georgia.
As Mullens explained the “ cluster” was comprised of three, Okla,OSU, and Georgia.
Okla was ahead of OSU going in and both won. Georgia lost a close game. Protocol dictated a one loss Chamion for the 4th Spot. Had Oklahoma lost it would have been OSU.
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The Committee thought the three teams had no significant differences.
What I derived from their comment was that they did not see much difference between Georgia and Oklahoma. Therefore they went to the guidance of conference champions and put Oklahoma above Georgia.
As Mullens explained the “ cluster” was comprised of three, Okla,OSU, and Georgia.
Okla was ahead of OSU going in and both won. Georgia lost a close game. Protocol dictated a one loss Chamion for the 4th Spot. Had Oklahoma lost it would have been OSU.
Old ground already covered. Try and keep up Skip.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
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https://n.rivals.com/news/college-football-playoff-why-each-final-four-team-will-won-t-win-it-all (https://n.rivals.com/news/college-football-playoff-why-each-final-four-team-will-won-t-win-it-all)
Nice quick read without a lot of fluff.
I still love the rat poison comment.
The first line in the Clemson comment is the big one IMO.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
I think you cannot require foreknowledge of the Committee. Whether or not the Committee got the 4 teams right is judged on the regular season, not the bowl results. That information is not in the Committee's knowledge when they make their choice. Even if Georgia crushes in its bowl and OK goes down hard, the Committee choice is not negated, just as they do not get extra credit for including OSU in year 1. And I swear I do not feel this way just because we got absolutely waxed as a 3 seed.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
Sure the conversations go on. On two levels. Scouting reports , analysis, etc comparing the teams in the playoff. And the same for the 76 also-rans trying to win a Bowl Championship.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
I think you cannot require foreknowledge of the Committee. Whether or not the Committee got the 4 teams right is judged on the regular season, not the bowl results. That information is not in the Committee's knowledge when they make their choice. Even if Georgia crushes in its bowl and OK goes down hard, the Committee choice is not negated, just as they do not get extra credit for including OSU in year 1. And I swear I do not feel this way just because we got absolutely waxed as a 3 seed.
Of course what you say has merit.
I just don't quite see it that way. If OK gets waxed I will question the decision to place them there. Others will too. It's the nature of the beast. And actually I had to grudgingly give them extra credit for including OSU. That we often see things from diametrically opposed positions is not a bad thing.
If we don't let it get away from us.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
Sure the conversations go on about the 40-odd Bowl Championships to be won.
But nothing that happens from now on changes the fact that only four teams compete for the NC.
And it will happen in three games with no talk of rankings, ratings, or protocols. The scoreboard is the only thing that matters.
That you reject the concept that there is a pluralism of perspectives isn't anything new.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
Sure the conversations go on about the 40-odd Bowl Championships to be won.
But nothing that happens from now on changes the fact that only four teams compete for the NC.
And it will happen in three games with no talk of rankings, ratings, or protocols. The scoreboard is the only thing that matters.
That you reject the concept that there is a pluralism of perspectives isn't anything new.
The CFP, like the Supreme Court, is the final arbiting body.
Enjoy the Citrus Bowl.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
Sure the conversations go on about the 40-odd Bowl Championships to be won.
But nothing that happens from now on changes the fact that only four teams compete for the NC.
And it will happen in three games with no talk of rankings, ratings, or protocols. The scoreboard is the only thing that matters.
That you reject the concept that there is a pluralism of perspectives isn't anything new.
The CFP, like the Supreme Court, is the final arbiting body.
Enjoy the Citrus Bowl.
At the risk of sounding like Stevo, the epistemology of the situation as a debate isn't restricted nor invalidated by your ontology just because you say so. There are many approaches to which we can choose to understand the CFP as well as debate and rate its correctness or lack thereof.
Enjoy all of the bowls.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
Sure the conversations go on about the 40-odd Bowl Championships to be won.
But nothing that happens from now on changes the fact that only four teams compete for the NC.
And it will happen in three games with no talk of rankings, ratings, or protocols. The scoreboard is the only thing that matters.
That you reject the concept that there is a pluralism of perspectives isn't anything new.
The CFP, like the Supreme Court, is the final arbiting body.
Enjoy the Citrus Bowl.
At the risk of sounding like Stevo, the epistemology of the situation as a debate isn't restricted nor invalidated by your ontology just because you say so.
Wasn’t me who said it.
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We'll have to wait and see how the Tide/Sooner game plays out to put the final chapter to the narrative. That and how Georgia does in their bowl game.
The narrative is over. The Committee did its job by selecting the four best teams for a seeded playoff.
Yours and their narrative might be over and that's cool for you. And if you want to stop talking about it I'd actually appreciate it. RRR
Other people's go on however, this is after all a conversation forum. You'll have to deal with that Skip old sock.
Sure the conversations go on about the 40-odd Bowl Championships to be won.
But nothing that happens from now on changes the fact that only four teams compete for the NC.
And it will happen in three games with no talk of rankings, ratings, or protocols. The scoreboard is the only thing that matters.
That you reject the concept that there is a pluralism of perspectives isn't anything new.
The CFP, like the Supreme Court, is the final arbiting body.
Enjoy the Citrus Bowl.
At the risk of sounding like Stevo, the epistemology of the situation as a debate isn't restricted nor invalidated by your ontology just because you say so.
Wasn’t me who said it.
Split personality issues again Red?
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CFP Final Rankings
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
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Thanks for the update.
And the debate still goes on, as to reinforce for you the epistemology of the situation as a debate isn't restricted nor invalidated by your ontology just because you say so. And yes you are saying so.
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I'm having a difficult time seeing what Cap'n's issue is with this years Playoff 4.
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I'm having a difficult time seeing what Cap'n's issue is with this years Playoff 4.
I don't have a problems with it at all. Jim has a problem with me saying a reevaluation can and will take place after the dust clears.
It's as inevitable as the sun rising in the morning.
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CFP Final Rankings
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
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09:43:21 PM
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December 2, 2018
CFP Final Rankings
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
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09:43:21 PM
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Stirs the drink and keeps the trains running on time...
We will blow Notre Dame out (read my lips)
[with big respect from a south cack guy who placed his first vote for Michael Dukakis, really]
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Stirs the drink and keeps the trains running on time...
We will blow Notre Dame out (read my lips)
[with big respect from a south cack guy who placed his first vote for Michael Dukakis, really]
Somebody's gotta do it
Somebody's gotta do it
Somebody,.. nope I can't do it.
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Oh, I see that’s when you went all epistemology and ontology on somebody’s ass, well, that ain’t illuminating anybody’s dumpster fire up in here, you feel me??
They get so precious and fragile in that faculty room somebody ought to take a flamethrower to it, I get how you feel Mr. Tibbs...
...just don’t teach when there might be a lesson in it for you...
...now you can stir that drink, CAPTAIN, but step away from the lectern and learn this:
Sometimes a pigskin is just a football, fuck, I think I’m all done here.
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https://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-state-football-news/urban-meyer-retiring
I had expected one more ysar.
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Urban steps away.
OSU turns to Ryan Day.
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14 seconds late!
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Never lost to Meatchicken. They put up statues for that in Columbus.
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Oh, I see that’s when you went all epistemology and ontology on somebody’s ass, well, that ain’t illuminating anybody’s dumpster fire up in here, you feel me??
They get so precious and fragile in that faculty room somebody ought to take a flamethrower to it, I get how you feel Mr. Tibbs...
...just don’t teach when there might be a lesson in it for you...
...now you can stir that drink, CAPTAIN, but step away from the lectern and learn this:
Sometimes a pigskin is just a football, fuck, I think I’m all done here.
LOL, I see you don't have the TVs in the house synced up to the same movie again. Loved all of em though.
Besides I was waiting for the train and don't tell me there ain't no trains this time in the morning. Tuesdays only 4:05 to Memphis. Almost missed it with all of Skip's yammerin. And it's botherin you? Well HOO HAH!
There are two kinds of people in this world: those who stand up and face the music, and those who run for cover. Cover is better.
Well, gentlemen, when the shit hits the fan, some guys run and some guys stay. Cappy stayed. Fans don't boo nobodies, I didn't come to The New York Times to be a star, I brought my star with me.
So C'mon you miserable drunk motherfucker let's do it.
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https://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-state-football-news/urban-meyer-retiring
I had expected one more ysar.
So did I. At the risk of garnering some folks ire and also of being redundant, when the shit hits the fan, some guys run and some guys stay.
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While he's apparently not enough of a tough guy for Cap'n, Meyer has zero left to prove as a college coach. Given that, his health problems and his occasional problems with complete honesty, I'm not sure why he would remain.
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Never lost to Meatchicken. They put up statues for that in Columbus.
Well.
He never lost to Michigan as a head coach at tOSU.
But Lloyd Carr and his Wolverines beat Meyer and Heisman winner Tim Tebow in the 2008 Capital One Bowl.
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Never lost to Meatchicken. They put up statues for that in Columbus.
Well.
He never lost to Michigan as a head coach at tOSU.
But Lloyd Carr and his Wolverines beat Meyer and Heisman winner Tim Tebow in the 2008 Capital One Bowl.
No one in Columbus cares about that.
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While he's apparently not enough of a tough guy for Cap'n, Meyer has zero left to prove as a college coach. Given that, his health problems and his occasional problems with complete honesty, I'm not sure why he would remain.
Agreed, the man is/was one helluva good football coach. And so he's made some mistakes. As have we all.
Except James of course.
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Never lost to Meatchicken. They put up statues for that in Columbus.
Well.
He never lost to Michigan as a head coach at tOSU.
But Lloyd Carr and his Wolverines beat Meyer and Heisman winner Tim Tebow in the 2008 Capital One Bowl.
No one in Columbus cares about that.
I don't think you fully understand the depth of Skips head up OSU's ass. I'm sure there are lots of others just like him.
Lots of others that aren't too for that matter.
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Never lost to Meatchicken. They put up statues for that in Columbus.
Well.
He never lost to Michigan as a head coach at tOSU.
But Lloyd Carr and his Wolverines beat Meyer and Heisman winner Tim Tebow in the 2008 Capital One Bowl.
No one in Columbus cares about that.
Actually fans in Columbus were quite happy to see Carr beat Meyer.
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https://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-state-football-news/urban-meyer-retiring
I had expected one more ysar.
I think I actually predicted it would happen exactly this way when they announced he was returning...complete with medical issue and everything.
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LOL, I see you don't have the TVs in the house synced up to the same movie again. Loved all of em though.
Besides I was waiting for the train and don't tell me there ain't no trains this time in the morning. Tuesdays only 4:05 to Memphis. Almost missed it with all of Skip's yammerin. And it's botherin you? Well HOO HAH!
There are two kinds of people in this world: those who stand up and face the music, and those who run for cover. Cover is better.
Well, gentlemen, when the shit hits the fan, some guys run and some guys stay. Cappy stayed. Fans don't boo nobodies, I didn't come to The New York Times to be a star, I brought my star with me.
So C'mon you miserable drunk motherfucker let's do it.
You sure you want to head down that road?
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Looks like we got our man.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25451253/usc-trojans-hire-kliff-kingsbury-offensive-coordinator (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25451253/usc-trojans-hire-kliff-kingsbury-offensive-coordinator)
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Meyer is 186-32 in 17 seasons as a head coach (a .853 win percentage).the third-highest career win percentage by a head coach in FBS history, behind Knute Rockne (.881) and Frank Leahy (.864) of Notre Dame. Meyer coached wide receivers at Notre Dame from 1996-2000.
He was 7-0 against Michigan as Ohio State head coach, the only coach in program history to finish his tenure with a perfect record against the Wolverines.
Meyer’s teams reached a BCS/New Year’s Six bowl game in each of the last six seasons at Ohio State. In his first year the team had been banned from the post season but finished 12-0.
He is 11-3 In bowl games (.786); fourth-highest bowl win percentage in FBS history.
He and Nick Saban are the only two head coaches in the poll era (since 1936) to win a national championship at multiple schools. ( Meyer and Saban are 2-2 against each other)
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LOL, I see you don't have the TVs in the house synced up to the same movie again. Loved all of em though.
Besides I was waiting for the train and don't tell me there ain't no trains this time in the morning. Tuesdays only 4:05 to Memphis. Almost missed it with all of Skip's yammerin. And it's botherin you? Well HOO HAH!
There are two kinds of people in this world: those who stand up and face the music, and those who run for cover. Cover is better.
Well, gentlemen, when the shit hits the fan, some guys run and some guys stay. Cappy stayed. Fans don't boo nobodies, I didn't come to The New York Times to be a star, I brought my star with me.
So C'mon you miserable drunk motherfucker let's do it.
You sure you want to head down that road?
I'll spot him a couple of posts and a half tank of gas.
Just give me enough time to get myself a case of beer and a bottle of beaverpiss bourbon.
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I'll spot him a couple of posts and a half tank of gas.
Just give me enough time to get myself a case of beer and a bottle of beaverpiss bourbon.
Ok. Well, beware of hitchhikers and enjoy the sunsets.
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:-)
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Looks like we got our man.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25451253/usc-trojans-hire-kliff-kingsbury-offensive-coordinator (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25451253/usc-trojans-hire-kliff-kingsbury-offensive-coordinator)
Think Urban will keep him on when he takes over in 2020?
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2nd top prospect decommits from Ohio St.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl)
No. 56 ranked prospect Jake Wray decommits from Buckeyes.
Ohio State has lost two commitments from the 2020 recruiting class since Urban Meyer announced his retirement on Tuesday. The first to depart from the class was ESPN Junior 300 safety Lejond Cavazos, and now ESPN Jr. 300 offensive lineman Jake Wray has also backed off his commitment to the Buckeyes.
You always get this when a big name Coach decides to either jump ship or retire for health reasons like Coach Meyer is doing. How much more bleeding will occur only time will tell.
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2nd top prospect decommits from Ohio St.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl)
No. 56 ranked prospect Jake Wray decommits from Buckeyes.
Ohio State has lost two commitments from the 2020 recruiting class since Urban Meyer announced his retirement on Tuesday. The first to depart from the class was ESPN Junior 300 safety Lejond Cavazos, and now ESPN Jr. 300 offensive lineman Jake Wray has also backed off his commitment to the Buckeyes.
You always get this when a big name Coach decides to either jump ship or retire for health reasons like Coach Meyer is doing. How much more bleeding will occur only time will tell.
To be clear: those are juniors? Nothing from the 2019 class yet.
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2nd top prospect decommits from Ohio St.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl)
No. 56 ranked prospect Jake Wray decommits from Buckeyes.
Ohio State has lost two commitments from the 2020 recruiting class since Urban Meyer announced his retirement on Tuesday. The first to depart from the class was ESPN Junior 300 safety Lejond Cavazos, and now ESPN Jr. 300 offensive lineman Jake Wray has also backed off his commitment to the Buckeyes.
You always get this when a big name Coach decides to either jump ship or retire for health reasons like Coach Meyer is doing. How much more bleeding will occur only time will tell.
To be clear: those are juniors? Nothing from the 2019 class yet.
Early signing begins December 20
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2nd top prospect decommits from Ohio St.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl)
No. 56 ranked prospect Jake Wray decommits from Buckeyes.
Ohio State has lost two commitments from the 2020 recruiting class since Urban Meyer announced his retirement on Tuesday. The first to depart from the class was ESPN Junior 300 safety Lejond Cavazos, and now ESPN Jr. 300 offensive lineman Jake Wray has also backed off his commitment to the Buckeyes.
You always get this when a big name Coach decides to either jump ship or retire for health reasons like Coach Meyer is doing. How much more bleeding will occur only time will tell.
To be clear: those are juniors? Nothing from the 2019 class yet.
Early signing begins December 20
Well, yes. But tOSU has a great group of verbal. That I have seen, none of those have jumped.
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Think Urban will keep him on when he takes over in 2020?
Funny you say that. It has certainly been a discussion out here.
Personally...would not want him.
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Think Urban will keep him on when he takes over in 2020?
Funny you say that. It has certainly been a discussion out here.
Personally...would not want him.
You can sleep soundly. Urban has no interest.
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2nd top prospect decommits from Ohio St.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl)
No. 56 ranked prospect Jake Wray decommits from Buckeyes.
Ohio State has lost two commitments from the 2020 recruiting class since Urban Meyer announced his retirement on Tuesday. The first to depart from the class was ESPN Junior 300 safety Lejond Cavazos, and now ESPN Jr. 300 offensive lineman Jake Wray has also backed off his commitment to the Buckeyes.
You always get this when a big name Coach decides to either jump ship or retire for health reasons like Coach Meyer is doing. How much more bleeding will occur only time will tell.
To be clear: those are juniors? Nothing from the 2019 class yet.
Early signing begins December 20
Well, yes. But tOSU has a great group of verbal. That I have seen, none of those have jumped.
Early signing period was the driver behind the timing of retirement.
Recruits were calling asking about his future. Maybe some will change their minds. They could also change their mind after signing if he delayed which would have been unfair to them.
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The funniest thing of all is that OSU fans think UM won't be coaching elsewhere in two years. UF fans were similarly delusional.
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The funniest thing of all is that OSU fans think UM won't be coaching elsewhere in two years. UF fans were similarly delusional.
How do you know this?
Are you driving their reaction?
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Are you driving their reaction?
in some cases, apparently, yes. Ref the following:
You can sleep soundly. Urban has no interest.
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Are you driving their reaction?
in some cases, apparently, yes. Ref the following:
You can sleep soundly. Urban has no interest.
I regret not checking my post. Autocorrect took DIVINING a to DRIVING
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2nd top prospect decommits from Ohio St.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25459403/jake-wray-decommits-ohio-state-making-second-player-do-urban-meyer-announced-retire-following-rose-bowl)
No. 56 ranked prospect Jake Wray decommits from Buckeyes.
Ohio State has lost two commitments from the 2020 recruiting class since Urban Meyer announced his retirement on Tuesday. The first to depart from the class was ESPN Junior 300 safety Lejond Cavazos, and now ESPN Jr. 300 offensive lineman Jake Wray has also backed off his commitment to the Buckeyes.
You always get this when a big name Coach decides to either jump ship or retire for health reasons like Coach Meyer is doing. How much more bleeding will occur only time will tell.
To be clear: those are juniors? Nothing from the 2019 class yet.
Early signing begins December 20
Well, yes. But tOSU has a great group of verbal. That I have seen, none of those have jumped.
Meyer was one of the best recruiters there were. Farrell thinks he was the best in fact. Although my numbers dispute that. He was a great national recruiter too. Farrell thinks he was the best because of that. The numbers I get dispute that too. But like he said more of 1 and 1A. Saban has had something like 9 #1 classes since 2002 and to me nobody can touch that.
https://n.rivals.com/news/top-10-recruiters-of-the-rivals-com-era
(https://n.rivals.com/news/top-10-recruiters-of-the-rivals-com-era)
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The funniest thing of all is that OSU fans think UM won't be coaching elsewhere in two years. UF fans were similarly delusional.
I think his health is even worse now though. But a competitive guy like that you just never know.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
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If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Very true
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
And the league schools would make more money.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
And the league schools would make more money.
And the Conference would lose money if they had to give it to other schools for an OOC game.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
And the league schools would make more money.
And the Conference would lose money if they had to give it to other schools for an OOC game.
uh, no.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
And the league schools would make more money.
And the Conference would lose money if they had to give it to other schools for an OOC game.
uh, no.
I see, so the OOC opponents play Big Ten teams in Big Ten Stadiums for free? Awfully sporting of them.
The stupid SEC pays their OOC teams to come and play. Bama for instance paying Citadel, I believe, $500,000.00 to play.
Additionally the Crimson Tide will pay a combined $6.71 million for a quartet of home nonconference games scheduled between 2021-2029 after agreeing to host Southern Miss, Utah State and Western Kentucky for an average of $1.9 million between 2021-2023.
But you say the Big Ten OOC opponents get to come to a Big Ten school play a football game for free? And then are free to take their dirty jocks and get the fuck out of Dodge. Neat.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
And the league schools would make more money.
And the Conference would lose money if they had to give it to other schools for an OOC game.
uh, no.
I see, so the OOC opponents play Big Ten teams in Big Ten Stadiums for free? Awfully sporting of them.
The stupid SEC pays their OOC teams to come and play. Bama for instance paying Citadel, I believe, $500,000.00 to play.
Additionally the Crimson Tide will pay a combined $6.71 million for a quartet of home nonconference games scheduled between 2021-2029 after agreeing to host Southern Miss, Utah State and Western Kentucky for an average of $1.9 million between 2021-2023.
But you say the Big Ten OOC opponents get to come to a Big Ten school play a football game for free? And then are free to take their dirty jocks and get the fuck out of Dodge. Neat.
There is a reason tOSU level programs can spend those kind of incentives to bring in group of 5 teams.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
And the league schools would make more money.
And the Conference would lose money if they had to give it to other schools for an OOC game.
uh, no.
I see, so the OOC opponents play Big Ten teams in Big Ten Stadiums for free? Awfully sporting of them.
The stupid SEC pays their OOC teams to come and play. Bama for instance paying Citadel, I believe, $500,000.00 to play.
Additionally the Crimson Tide will pay a combined $6.71 million for a quartet of home nonconference games scheduled between 2021-2029 after agreeing to host Southern Miss, Utah State and Western Kentucky for an average of $1.9 million between 2021-2023.
But you say the Big Ten OOC opponents get to come to a Big Ten school play a football game for free? And then are free to take their dirty jocks and get the fuck out of Dodge. Neat.
There is a reason tOSU level programs can spend those kind of incentives to bring in group of 5 teams.
I'm sorry I'm not following you.
The discussion is about the Big 10 dropping, or not dropping, a conference game in order to pickup a cupcake nonconference game. To which I stated the BIG 10 would lose money if they did. Because they would have to pay the other teams to come and play them. Whereas if it were just a regular Big 10 matchup the money would stay in conference. Also since the Big 10 already has half of their membership unable to play over .500 ball who needs weaker teams to schedule.
Maybe it wasn't clear to you what was being discussed. Sorry about that, my bad for not making it clearer.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
Hopefully it isn't a trend.
But it's one reason what I thought it would be better to have PSU and Michigan State in the West and OSU and Michigan in the East. You'd have to rename the Divisions to something else because Directional names wouldn't fit.
Personally as I've tried to explain before, I think with the conference's history OSU, their traditionally strongest school, would be most capable of standing alone. Add in Michigan because of the last game of the year rivalry thing. I don't think the Big can depend on Wisconsin alone to carry the flag for the other Division every year. Iowa has managed to hop in there to pick up the slack but sporadically IMO. This year attests to that downyear happenstance you mention I think. But also the happenstance that the division in question need another ringer in it.
So make the West stronger with three potential good teams in Wisconsin, MSU and PSU. It's possible the powers behind the scenes, for whatever reason/s I'm sure there is a lot of internal politicking going on, want nothing to do with PSU 'not' being in the same division as OSU. Or, I suppose I could just be seeing something that isn't there although I'm not really inclined to believe that. It's possible that the Big Ten is/was trying to emulate the SEC West by putting all of their eggs in one basket and thus the glut of OSU, PSU, Michigan and Mich St. All four traditional and actual powers in the past, recent or otherwise, on one side of the ledger. That may be the subtlety you might have missed when I was trying to talk about it earlier.
It's possible that Nebraska is exerting some sort of pressure to actually be in a weak division in hopes of somehow resurrecting their program. A program whose glory is as dead and gone as the Roman Empire and probably never to be seen again for several reasons. Both for traditional population demographic reasons as well as being for lack of a better term 'a flashy chic or voguish' location. So they are completely happy with only vying with the likes of Wisconsin and Iowa.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
Conference James, C O N F E R E N C E.
Not team.
The conference as a whole would lose that money. Otherwise it stays in house so to speak.
So the conference in playing nine conference games can somehow claim the high ground, or get some sort of credit, in claiming they played a tougher schedule without losing a friggin dime in doing so. Brilliant I admit. In a twisted self serving way.
But brilliant nonetheless, because there are a lot of soft heads out there that would actually believe that bullshit.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
Conference James, C O N F E R E N C E.
Not team.
The conference as a whole would lose that money. Otherwise it stays in house so to speak.
So the conference in playing nine conference games can somehow claim the high ground, or get some sort of credit, in claiming they played a tougher schedule without losing a friggin dime in doing so. Brilliant I admit. In a twisted self serving way.
But brilliant nonetheless, because there are a lot of soft heads out there that would actually believe that bullshit.
If Jimm is right, and though you will not admit it, he usually is when it comes to the money in sports, each team gets more money for the cupcake game, even with the buy out. How is the conference out money if each individual team makes more? More games the network to televise and sell ads for, too.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
Conference James, C O N F E R E N C E.
Not team.
The conference as a whole would lose that money. Otherwise it stays in house so to speak.
So the conference in playing nine conference games can somehow claim the high ground, or get some sort of credit, in claiming they played a tougher schedule without losing a friggin dime in doing so. Brilliant I admit. In a twisted self serving way.
But brilliant nonetheless, because there are a lot of soft heads out there that would actually believe that bullshit.
If Jimm is right, and though you will not admit it, he usually is when it comes to the money in sports, each team gets more money for the cupcake game, even with the buy out. How is the conference out money if each individual team makes more? More games the network to televise and sell ads for, too.
A payout to an FCS team has an average of $450 000 to half a million.
If that game was a conference game instead the two teams split the gate.
Which, in most cases of power five conferences, would mean much more than half a million.
Ergo, the FCS game means more net money to the home team since it pays out $500k and keeps the rest of the gate receipts.
The notion that with conference games the money “ stays in the conference” is irrelevant since each team has a budget built on gate receipts.
This is not to say that the bottom line of the gate receipts’ ledger is the deciding factor in scheduling 8 or nine games. Each conference bases that on many factors. But it is true that power five home game against a cupcake means more for the home team.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
Conference James, C O N F E R E N C E.
Not team.
The conference as a whole would lose that money. Otherwise it stays in house so to speak.
So the conference in playing nine conference games can somehow claim the high ground, or get some sort of credit, in claiming they played a tougher schedule without losing a friggin dime in doing so. Brilliant I admit. In a twisted self serving way.
But brilliant nonetheless, because there are a lot of soft heads out there that would actually believe that bullshit.
If Jimm is right, and though you will not admit it, he usually is when it comes to the money in sports, each team gets more money for the cupcake game, even with the buy out. How is the conference out money if each individual team makes more? More games the network to televise and sell ads for, too.
First TV contracts are already set. Something James made a painful point to make clear a while back.
But that is not what I'm saying. I'm not sure why this isn't sinking in.
If any other team besides a Big Ten team gets the money it is going to someone else. Not a Big Ten school.
Alabama will PAY a team 1.9 million dollars to come and play. The TV money is not the issue. It's "who" gets it. That 1.9 mil will effectively leave the SEC and go to another conference's team. Had it been a conference matchup of two SEC teams the money stays in conference.
Apparently I just can't get the point across. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
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But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
Conference James, C O N F E R E N C E.
Not team.
The conference as a whole would lose that money. Otherwise it stays in house so to speak.
So the conference in playing nine conference games can somehow claim the high ground, or get some sort of credit, in claiming they played a tougher schedule without losing a friggin dime in doing so. Brilliant I admit. In a twisted self serving way.
If any other team besides a Big Ten team gets the money it is going to someone else. Not a Big Ten school.
Alabama will PAY a team 1.9 million dollars to come and play. The TV money is not the issue. It's "who" gets it. That 1.9 mil will effectively leave the SEC and go to another conference's team. Had it been a conference matchup of two SEC teams the money stays in conference.
That has nothing to do with my original point.
If Ohio State replaces an FCS team with a Conference Game it loses some revenue for that game.
It should be pointed that the Big Ten, unlike any other Conference, shares gate receipts with Conference schools based on a formula. This often results is some teams losing revenue.
If the 9 game schedule was reduced to 8 then there would be less revenue sharing and, most notably, schools scheduling FCS teams would take home a much larger amount from gate receipts.
That’s all.
Obviously the difference in dollars is outweighed by factors the Big Ten feels are more important to the long range goals of the Conference including presenting more attractive games for its ticket buyers, better competition for the players, its strength if schedule when vying for post season play, among others.
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But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
Conference James, C O N F E R E N C E.
Not team.
The conference as a whole would lose that money. Otherwise it stays in house so to speak.
So the conference in playing nine conference games can somehow claim the high ground, or get some sort of credit, in claiming they played a tougher schedule without losing a friggin dime in doing so. Brilliant I admit. In a twisted self serving way.
If any other team besides a Big Ten team gets the money it is going to someone else. Not a Big Ten school.
Alabama will PAY a team 1.9 million dollars to come and play. The TV money is not the issue. It's "who" gets it. That 1.9 mil will effectively leave the SEC and go to another conference's team. Had it been a conference matchup of two SEC teams the money stays in conference.
That has nothing to do with my original point.
If Ohio State replaces an FCS team with a Conference Game it loses some revenue for that game.
It should be pointed that the Big Ten, unlike any other Conference, shares gate receipts with Conference schools based on a formula. This often results is some teams losing revenue.
If the 9 game schedule was reduced to 8 then there would be less revenue sharing and, most notably, schools scheduling FCS teams would take home a much larger amount from gate receipts.
That’s all.
Obviously the difference in dollars is outweighed by factors the Big Ten feels are more important to the long range goals of the Conference including presenting more attractive games for its ticket buyers, better competition for the players, its strength if schedule when vying for post season play, among others.
Actually it was my point as I brought the whole thing up. Which was the Big Ten conference not individual teams within the conference. So it has everything to do with what I was saying. It has nothing to do with revenue sharing and everything to do with paying other schools to come and play you. The total money is finite. Where it goes was and is the original point. That you went off on some sort of tangent because you didn't understand what was said is exactly that.
Have a nice day.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
And the league schools would make more money.
And the Conference would lose money if they had to give it to other schools for an OOC game.
uh, no.
I see, so the OOC opponents play Big Ten teams in Big Ten Stadiums for free? Awfully sporting of them.
The stupid SEC pays their OOC teams to come and play. Bama for instance paying Citadel, I believe, $500,000.00 to play.
Additionally the Crimson Tide will pay a combined $6.71 million for a quartet of home nonconference games scheduled between 2021-2029 after agreeing to host Southern Miss, Utah State and Western Kentucky for an average of $1.9 million between 2021-2023.
But you say the Big Ten OOC opponents get to come to a Big Ten school play a football game for free? And then are free to take their dirty jocks and get the fuck out of Dodge. Neat.
Neat.
That was your reaction to my original statement.
Which was rather odd.
The FCS teams certainly don’t play for free, but they do play for less than conference teams.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
And the league schools would make more money.
And the Conference would lose money if they had to give it to other schools for an OOC game.
uh, no.
I see, so the OOC opponents play Big Ten teams in Big Ten Stadiums for free? Awfully sporting of them.
The stupid SEC pays their OOC teams to come and play. Bama for instance paying Citadel, I believe, $500,000.00 to play.
Additionally the Crimson Tide will pay a combined $6.71 million for a quartet of home nonconference games scheduled between 2021-2029 after agreeing to host Southern Miss, Utah State and Western Kentucky for an average of $1.9 million between 2021-2023.
But you say the Big Ten OOC opponents get to come to a Big Ten school play a football game for free? And then are free to take their dirty jocks and get the fuck out of Dodge. Neat.
Neat.
That was your reaction to my original statement.
Which was rather odd.
The FCS teams certainly don’t play for free, but they do play for less than conference teams.
It is odd in that the original post of the thread talked about the Big Ten 'conference'. But you wanted to change that to individual schools rather than keep it apples to apples. You've done this sort of thing many times before, nothing odd about that.
Again, have a nice day.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
Conference James, C O N F E R E N C E.
Not team.
The conference as a whole would lose that money. Otherwise it stays in house so to speak.
So the conference in playing nine conference games can somehow claim the high ground, or get some sort of credit, in claiming they played a tougher schedule without losing a friggin dime in doing so. Brilliant I admit. In a twisted self serving way.
But brilliant nonetheless, because there are a lot of soft heads out there that would actually believe that bullshit.
If Jimm is right, and though you will not admit it, he usually is when it comes to the money in sports, each team gets more money for the cupcake game, even with the buy out. How is the conference out money if each individual team makes more? More games the network to televise and sell ads for, too.
First TV contracts are already set. Something James made a painful point to make clear a while back.
But that is not what I'm saying. I'm not sure why this isn't sinking in.
If any other team besides a Big Ten team gets the money it is going to someone else. Not a Big Ten school.
Alabama will PAY a team 1.9 million dollars to come and play. The TV money is not the issue. It's "who" gets it. That 1.9 mil will effectively leave the SEC and go to another conference's team. Had it been a conference matchup of two SEC teams the money stays in conference.
Apparently I just can't get the point across. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
Cap,.you are failing to account for the fact that it is 14 games out of conference, but only 7 in conference. As long as the team keeps more than half the revenue, the conference is ahead.
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Jim Delany says College Football Playoff doesn't define Big Ten:
Big 10 teams sticking with nine league games.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25460556/big-ten-commissioner-jim-delany-there-no-plans-reduce-number-league-games-nine-eight)
I'd have to agree with their decision. With 6 teams not above .500 there really isn't any need to schedule weaker teams. They already have them. And it's an easier way for them to keep all of the money for that game in the Big Ten.
If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would have more teams over .500.
Technically you're right. One more.
The rest would need more than one win to get above .500
Your math is off.
I stand corrected. The Fightin Gophers would have a shot too. And my math was off on the number of teams the Big 10 has that isn't over .500. I said six but it is actually 7. That's HALF the conference. Which emphasizes my point even more that the Big Ten already has enough weak teams already without the need to try and go find more to play. So, they of course could prefer to keep the money in the conference without a major amount of fear that the outcome would be much different than the alternative. So as I inferred insidiously crafty smart on their part.
But to get back to your assertion that the Big Ten would have more teams. Purdue lost to Eastern Michigan. So there is no guarantee that they or Minny would have won their extra cupcake game.
So I would agree to an amendment of your statement to read, "If they played 8 conference games like God's Conference they would might have more teams over .500.
Fair enough?
Yep. 2018 was a down year for the West. If Nietzsche is right, 2018 will be a down year for the West when it recurs.
Dropping a cupcake FCS game and replacing it with a league opponent costs the home team more in a payout.
Conference James, C O N F E R E N C E.
Not team.
The conference as a whole would lose that money. Otherwise it stays in house so to speak.
So the conference in playing nine conference games can somehow claim the high ground, or get some sort of credit, in claiming they played a tougher schedule without losing a friggin dime in doing so. Brilliant I admit. In a twisted self serving way.
But brilliant nonetheless, because there are a lot of soft heads out there that would actually believe that bullshit.
If Jimm is right, and though you will not admit it, he usually is when it comes to the money in sports, each team gets more money for the cupcake game, even with the buy out. How is the conference out money if each individual team makes more? More games the network to televise and sell ads for, too.
First TV contracts are already set. Something James made a painful point to make clear a while back.
But that is not what I'm saying. I'm not sure why this isn't sinking in.
If any other team besides a Big Ten team gets the money it is going to someone else. Not a Big Ten school.
Alabama will PAY a team 1.9 million dollars to come and play. The TV money is not the issue. It's "who" gets it. That 1.9 mil will effectively leave the SEC and go to another conference's team. Had it been a conference matchup of two SEC teams the money stays in conference.
Apparently I just can't get the point across. Maybe someone else can explain it better.
Cap,.you are failing to account for the fact that it is 14 games out of conference, but only 7 in conference. As long as the team keeps more than half the revenue, the conference is ahead.
Okay. But that wasn't the point. It was a fairly simple cut and dried, simple to understand, point. But hey, why beat it into the ground. Keep all money, give some money to someone not of our tribe.
I give up. :-) You win.
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Greg Sankey: UCF should look 'inward,' fix strength-of-schedule issues
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25471482/sec-commissioner-greg-sankey-says-ucf-knights-fix-strength-schedule-issue (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25471482/sec-commissioner-greg-sankey-says-ucf-knights-fix-strength-schedule-issue)
Florida AD says bring it on:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25479055/florida-gators-ad-scott-stricklin-welcome-2-1-series-vs-ucf-knights (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25479055/florida-gators-ad-scott-stricklin-welcome-2-1-series-vs-ucf-knights)
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Happy Army-Navy Day
One of my favorite days in college football.
I see the Cadets are a 7 pt favorite over a struggling Navy team, and the first time they've been a favorite since 2001
I grew up in a "Navy" home, dad served on a destroyer escort in WW2 patrolling the North Atlantic '42-45, and blew up a couple of German subs.
He was on his way to Hawaii and then Japan when the war ended in '45.
I learned "Anchors away" at an early age.
Truth be told I was sort of pulling for "close" games the last few years, as the rivalry had gotten a little one-sided, and our Army shouldn't be getting their ass kicked every year.
And things sort of evened out the last couple of years.
Middies might see some payback today.
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Happy Army-Navy Day
One of my favorite days in college football.
I see the Cadets are a 7 pt favorite over a struggling Navy team, and the first time they've been a favorite since 2001
I grew up in a "Navy" home, dad served on a destroyer escort in WW2 patrolling the North Atlantic '42-45, and blew up a couple of German subs.
He was on his way to Hawaii and then Japan when the war ended in '45.
I learned "Anchors away" at an early age.
Truth be told I was sort of pulling for "close" games the last few years, as the rivalry had gotten a little one-sided, and our Army shouldn't be getting their ass kicked every year.
And things sort of evened out the last couple of years.
Middies might see some payback today.
Good luck to your Middies Rich. I fear their will be high seas ahead for them.
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Hopkins with a nice punt pins Union deep.
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All too easy. I think it's going to be a long day for the Hopkins defense.
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Is this going to be an ever increasing trend in college football?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25482960/west-virginia-mountaineers-qb-grier-skip-bowl-game-focus-draft-prep (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25482960/west-virginia-mountaineers-qb-grier-skip-bowl-game-focus-draft-prep)
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Yep.
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Hopkins keeping it close with defensive plays. Union in a ballgame even though they are smothering the Johnnies offense.
Defense baby!
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Clemson has given up in the Jimmy V classic.
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Well I guess I'm changing my pick on the WV/Syracuse game
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Hardin Baylor with the fake punt. Nice submarine route, first down.
Good game so far.
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Well I guess I'm changing my pick on the WV/Syracuse game
QB and offensive lineman. Hell Bo I thought Cuse was going to win before the news. Feelin even better about it now. :-)
Nice to hear from you dude.
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I was giving the slightest edge to WV because of the QB. I know I shouldn't pick against the Cuse!
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Looks like it's the Purple meanies against the Cru. Should be a good one.
Did North Dakota State dismantle Colgate or what?!
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Looks like it's the Purple meanies against the Cru. Should be a good one.
Did North Dakota State dismantle Colgate or what?!
Squeezed them from the bottom and rolled them up.
Since 2000 the D III championship has featured the Mount, MHB, or both.
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=undefined&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwj6gtG_15PfAhXBIjQIHfqgAlIQzPwBCAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.espn.com%2Fnfl%2Fstory%2F_%2Fid%2F25490174%2Fjim-harbaugh-says-leave-michigan-wolverines-nfl-coaching-jobs-emphasizes-big-plans-here&psig=AOvVaw1Slkil-oN-yNKqqrQ5Ssy7&ust=1544477047859337
"Big plans" include actually maybe beating the Ohio State now that the Urban Meyer has retired.
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=undefined&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwj6gtG_15PfAhXBIjQIHfqgAlIQzPwBCAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.espn.com%2Fnfl%2Fstory%2F_%2Fid%2F25490174%2Fjim-harbaugh-says-leave-michigan-wolverines-nfl-coaching-jobs-emphasizes-big-plans-here&psig=AOvVaw1Slkil-oN-yNKqqrQ5Ssy7&ust=1544477047859337
"Big plans" include actually maybe beating the Ohio State now that the Urban Meyer has retired.
Well.
Before Meyer Jim Tressel went 8-1 against the Wolverines. Looks like ANY Michigan plan regarding OSU football isn’t very predictive.
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There is a phrase people sometimes use (though rarely used on this board), that may be helpful in reducing the number of erroneous posts here.
"oh, I see what you are saying now."
it does not diminish your intelligence to have previously misunderstood what someone was trying to say.
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What is that supposed to mean?
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Always entertaining
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Always entertaining
Thank you. I will be here all week, with a matinee on Saturday. Don't forget to tip your veal. Try the waitress.
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https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1072185425962328064
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https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1072185425962328064
Forever grateful that all the ignorant shit I said has been stored in easily denied human memories instead of permanently retained computer memories.
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There is a phrase people sometimes use (though rarely used on this board), that may be helpful in reducing the number of erroneous posts here.
"oh, I see what you are saying now."
it does not diminish your intelligence to have previously misunderstood what someone was trying to say.
Good advice Scotty, I hope it happens with some degree of frequency going forward.
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https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1072185425962328064
Forever grateful that all the ignorant shit I said has been stored in easily denied human memories instead of permanently retained computer memories.
John 8:7
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Things are looking up
*Chad Kauha’aha’a - Defensive Line
*Mike Jinks - Running Backs
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The talk of expanding to 8 playoff teams is circulating among the powers-that-be in College Football Athletic offices. The current 4 team playoff has been successful and has 7 years left on its original contract. But, in truth, only the SEC can be entirely happy.
A number of athletic directors and commissioners of other conferences have a different perspective. They feel that the system is designed to benefit the SEC, and they point to examples from this year’s final rankings as evidence: Florida at No. 10, despite the two FCS games; LSU hovering at No. 7 after its blowout loss to Alabama; the Gators and Tigers making New Year’s Six bowl games ahead of Penn State and Washington State, which both played nine conference games; and a two-loss, non-champion Georgia slotted ahead of Ohio State, a one-loss conference champion.
The proposal getting the most chat right now is 5 conference Champs, the non-power -5 highest rated and two wild cards. Conference Championship games will be replaced by the first round games at the homes of the top four ranked teams.
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It is an interesting formula, though if you replace conference championship games with round 1, how.do you determine conference champions? It did not happen this year but you often have division champs with identical records and no head to head.
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It is an interesting formula, though if you replace conference championship games with round 1, how.do you determine conference champions? It did not happen this year but you often have division champs with identical records and no head to head.
End division play is one way. Return to the tested formula of tiebreakers starting with best overall record on to head-to head in case of ties , etc.
Of course nothing will be easy since Conference CGs are popular and profitable, especially in the SEC. and the whole idea may collapse if the SEC won’t relent on 9 game schedules.
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On the other hand, you are replacing the revenue from the championship game with revenue from the playoff game. If you manage to have both, say 0laying the dead week after conference championship games you are adding new 4evenue. But I guess you make the scholars play one more game, so there is that.
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On the other hand, you are replacing the revenue from the championship game with revenue from the playoff game. If you manage to have both, say 0laying the dead week after conference championship games you are adding new 4evenue. But I guess you make the scholars play one more game, so there is that.
Adding a game is probably a non-starter. Certainly any NFL bound player on a losing playoff team has even more incentive to skip the Bowls after two post season games
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The talk of expanding to 8 playoff teams is circulating among the powers-that-be in College Football Athletic offices. The current 4 team playoff has been successful and has 7 years left on its original contract. But, in truth, only the SEC can be entirely happy.
A number of athletic directors and commissioners of other conferences have a different perspective. They feel that the system is designed to benefit the SEC, and they point to examples from this year’s final rankings as evidence: Florida at No. 10, despite the two FCS games; LSU hovering at No. 7 after its blowout loss to Alabama; the Gators and Tigers making New Year’s Six bowl games ahead of Penn State and Washington State, which both played nine conference games; and a two-loss, non-champion Georgia slotted ahead of Ohio State, a one-loss conference champion.
The proposal getting the most chat right now is 5 conference Champs, the non-power -5 highest rated and two wild cards. Conference Championship games will be replaced by the first round games at the homes of the top four ranked teams.
The thing is that all of the people on the committee that vote/rank/rate, whatever word one wants to use, have access to the teams SOS playing nine games eight games. So IMO complaining about it is nothing more than just a smokescreen. If Georgia had played one more SEC game most likely they win it. So again smokescreen. The other conference's ADs and Commissioners are just whining. Yes, whining. People think LSU is overrated, okay that's their prerogative. Opinions vary. Sure it's possible that Georgia loses an extra game by playing Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, Miss St, and Tex A&M.
They'd sure as hell be favored even more had they had to face any of the Big 10 West teams or the PAC South teams or the ACC Coastal teams, or any of the Big 12 teams not named Oklahoma Sooners. All this has to enter into a Committee voters minds. I know what my mind would think given all of the same information. Either real or the SOS speculative scenarios I just laid out. Whining. Nothing more than that.
Now I don't blame them for whining mind you. But lets call it for what it is. System advantage? IMO that's just a bunch of whiny bullshit.
Additionally, and not really related to the above, I used to think the bowls games meant something as far as the power of the conferences went. But lately I'm beginning to rethink that assumption too. Especially in this day and age of stars sitting those games out. It used to be about motivation factors and to the most extent I think it still is. Who has something to prove, and who doesn't really give that much of a rat's ass. But now we have stars just flat out refusing to play period. Back when their were much less bowl games and when the major bowls hadn't been highjacked by the playoff games. I think there was a time when teams played hard in the bowl games 110% kinda stuff. I think when there were less games it was considered more of an honor to get in one of those games. So you played hard.
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The talk of expanding to 8 playoff teams is circulating among the powers-that-be in College Football Athletic offices. The current 4 team playoff has been successful and has 7 years left on its original contract. But, in truth, only the SEC can be entirely happy.
A number of athletic directors and commissioners of other conferences have a different perspective. They feel that the system is designed to benefit the SEC, and they point to examples from this year’s final rankings as evidence: Florida at No. 10, despite the two FCS games; LSU hovering at No. 7 after its blowout loss to Alabama; the Gators and Tigers making New Year’s Six bowl games ahead of Penn State and Washington State, which both played nine conference games; and a two-loss, non-champion Georgia slotted ahead of Ohio State, a one-loss conference champion.
The proposal getting the most chat right now is 5 conference Champs, the non-power -5 highest rated and two wild cards. Conference Championship games will be replaced by the first round games at the homes of the top four ranked teams.
.....I used to think the bowls games meant something as far as the power of the conferences went. But lately I'm beginning to rethink that assumption too. Especially in this day and age of stars sitting those games out. It used to be about motivation factors and to the most extent I think it still is. Who has something to prove, and who doesn't really give that much of a rat's ass. But now we have stars just flat out refusing to play period. Back when their were much less bowl games and when the major bowls hadn't been highjacked by the playoff games. I think there was a time when teams played hard in the bowl games 110% kinda stuff. I think when their were less games it was considered more of an honor to get in one of those games. So you played hard.
There also used to be leather helmets, single wing offenses, one televised game on Saturday, defense, and Keith Jackson.
Those days are gone and the NFL paychecks are much bigger. Anyone who thinks a player on the cusp of a long term pro contract owes it to his team to play in a Bowl Game is out of touch with reality. Recent polls show that support for the decision to go pro is universally supported by teammates and coaches.
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Yes that is all true.
Even though your post/s delineation quotes thing is messed up.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
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Oh, cool you fixed it. Good job.
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Yes that is all true.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
Your first part made no sense.
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The talk of expanding to 8 playoff teams is circulating among the powers-that-be in College Football Athletic offices. The current 4 team playoff has been successful and has 7 years left on its original contract. But, in truth, only the SEC can be entirely happy.
A number of athletic directors and commissioners of other conferences have a different perspective. They feel that the system is designed to benefit the SEC, and they point to examples from this year’s final rankings as evidence: Florida at No. 10, despite the two FCS games; LSU hovering at No. 7 after its blowout loss to Alabama; the Gators and Tigers making New Year’s Six bowl games ahead of Penn State and Washington State, which both played nine conference games; and a two-loss, non-champion Georgia slotted ahead of Ohio State, a one-loss conference champion.
The proposal getting the most chat right now is 5 conference Champs, the non-power -5 highest rated and two wild cards. Conference Championship games will be replaced by the first round games at the homes of the top four ranked teams.
.....I used to think the bowls games meant something as far as the power of the conferences went. But lately I'm beginning to rethink that assumption too. Especially in this day and age of stars sitting those games out. It used to be about motivation factors and to the most extent I think it still is. Who has something to prove, and who doesn't really give that much of a rat's ass. But now we have stars just flat out refusing to play period. Back when their were much less bowl games and when the major bowls hadn't been highjacked by the playoff games. I think there was a time when teams played hard in the bowl games 110% kinda stuff. I think when their were less games it was considered more of an honor to get in one of those games. So you played hard.
There also used to be leather helmets, single wing offenses, one televised game on Saturday, defense, and Keith Jackson.
Those days are gone and the NFL paychecks are much bigger. Anyone who thinks a player on the cusp of a long term pro contract owes it to his team to play in a Bowl Game is out of touch with reality. Recent polls show that support for the decision to go pro is universally supported by teammates and coaches.
Speaking of Keith Jackson this "Keith Jackson and Michigan" video brought a tear to the eye of this old cynic. Sorry Whiskey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQicippGDJQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQicippGDJQ)
My daughter has no idea who Keith Jackson was. I sent it to her anyway.
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Yes that is all true.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
Your first part made no sense.
Probably not to you. I've come to realize that higher thinking is someti….oftentimes beyond you. My apologies for subjecting you to it.
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Yes that is all true.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
Your first part made no sense.
Probably not to you. I've come to realize that higher thinking is someti….oftentimes beyond you. My apologies for subjecting you to it.
I can see why you edited it out.
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My daughter has no idea who Keith Jackson was
Funny...I just asked my 28 year old who does watch college football. He had no idea either... I guess I did a sub-par job of raising him.
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To her credit she went to every home game this year and suffered through the OSU game with a boatload of Buckeye fans.
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To her credit she went to every home game this year and suffered through the OSU game with a boatload of Buckeye fans.
Too bad for her she was born after the John Cooper era.
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Yes that is all true.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
Your first part made no sense.
Probably not to you. I've come to realize that higher thinking is someti….oftentimes beyond you. My apologies for subjecting you to it.
I can see why you edited it out.
Nothing was edited out. I changed a grammatical error is all from their to there.
Again my apologies for you not being able to understand. Please have a nice day.
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Yes that is all true.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
Your first part made no sense.
Probably not to you. I've come to realize that higher thinking is someti….oftentimes beyond you. My apologies for subjecting you to it.
I can see why you edited it out.
Nothing was edited out. I changed a grammatical error is all from their to there.
Again my apologies for you not being able to understand. Please have a nice day.
Got it. Your whole post was negated by a typo. LOL
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Yes that is all true.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
Your first part made no sense.
Probably not to you. I've come to realize that higher thinking is someti….oftentimes beyond you. My apologies for subjecting you to it.
I can see why you edited it out.
Nothing was edited out. I changed a grammatical error is all from their to there.
Again my apologies for you not being able to understand. Please have a nice day.
Got it. Your whole post was negated by a typo. LOL
I'm afraid the only thing you've 'got' is your continuing ignorance. And once again I am truly sorry for that. Probably more than you could ever know.
Again nothing was edited out of the meaning. It may be that English is your second language. So I'll once again apologize for asking for you to comprehend plain English. Possibly you could find a tutor to help you.
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Yes that is all true.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
Your first part made no sense.
Probably not to you. I've come to realize that higher thinking is someti….oftentimes beyond you. My apologies for subjecting you to it.
I can see why you edited it out.
Nothing was edited out. I changed a grammatical error is all from their to there.
Again my apologies for you not being able to understand. Please have a nice day.
Got it. Your whole post was negated by a typo. LOL
I'm afraid the only thing you've 'got' is your continuing ignorance. And once again I am truly sorry for that. Probably more than you could ever know.
Again nothing was edited out of the meaning. It may be that English is your second language. So I'll once again apologize for asking for you to comprehend plain English. Possibly you could find a tutor to help you.
LOL.
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Yes that is all true.
But like I said, the bottom part of my post had little to nothing to do with the top part.
Your first part made no sense.
Probably not to you. I've come to realize that higher thinking is someti….oftentimes beyond you. My apologies for subjecting you to it.
I can see why you edited it out.
Nothing was edited out. I changed a grammatical error is all from their to there.
Again my apologies for you not being able to understand. Please have a nice day.
Got it. Your whole post was negated by a typo. LOL
I'm afraid the only thing you've 'got' is your continuing ignorance. And once again I am truly sorry for that. Probably more than you could ever know.
Again nothing was edited out of the meaning. It may be that English is your second language. So I'll once again apologize for asking for you to comprehend plain English. Possibly you could find a tutor to help you.
LOL.
Indeed.
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The talk of expanding to 8 playoff teams is circulating among the powers-that-be in College Football Athletic offices. The current 4 team playoff has been successful and has 7 years left on its original contract. But, in truth, only the SEC can be entirely happy.
A number of athletic directors and commissioners of other conferences have a different perspective. They feel that the system is designed to benefit the SEC, and they point to examples from this year’s final rankings as evidence: Florida at No. 10, despite the two FCS games; LSU hovering at No. 7 after its blowout loss to Alabama; the Gators and Tigers making New Year’s Six bowl games ahead of Penn State and Washington State, which both played nine conference games; and a two-loss, non-champion Georgia slotted ahead of Ohio State, a one-loss conference champion.
The proposal getting the most chat right now is 5 conference Champs, the non-power -5 highest rated and two wild cards. Conference Championship games will be replaced by the first round games at the homes of the top four ranked teams.
The thing is that all of the people on the committee that vote/rank/rate, whatever word one wants to use, have access to the teams SOS playing nine games eight games. So IMO complaining about it is nothing more than just a smokescreen. If Georgia had played one more SEC game most likely they win it. So again smokescreen.
Now, wait, God's Conference's excuse for only 8 conference games, and for playing that penultimate week of cookies, is how tough the conference is. Now, you are poo-pooing the lower reaches of the league? Mike Silve's ghost will NOT be happy with you.
If tOSU had only played 8 conference games, and one was not Purdue, what would your thought be about tOSU's chance to win that game? Actually playing the game is a risk. That extra conference game can be a killer.
The other conference's ADs and Commissioners are just whining. Yes, whining. People think LSU is overrated, okay that's their prerogative. Opinions vary. Sure it's possible that Georgia loses an extra game by playing Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, Miss St, and Tex A&M.
They'd sure as hell be favored even more had they had to face any of the Big 10 West teams or the PAC South teams or the ACC Coastal teams, or any of the Big 12 teams not named Oklahoma Sooners. All this has to enter into a Committee voters minds. I know what my mind would think given all of the same information. Either real or the SOS speculative scenarios I just laid out. Whining. Nothing more than that.
But the point is they DIDN'T play any of those teams instead of a ninth conference game. The current schedule model is one power five team out of conference (though some, like tOSU this year, play two. Granted, everyone licked the Beavers this year, but they are a P5 school). Georgia, Alabama did that. So what did they replace that extra conference game they did not play with? Citadel? Louisiana Lafayette? Yes, it does enter into the strength of schedule, but the risk they are avoiding is the risk of a Purdue result. The loss, the second loss especially; those mean way more than the strength of schedule.
Now I don't blame them for whining mind you. But lets call it for what it is. System advantage? IMO that's just a bunch of whiny bullshit.
No, it is a clear system advantage, and a real issue.
Additionally, and not really related to the above, I used to think the bowls games meant something as far as the power of the conferences went. But lately I'm beginning to rethink that assumption too. Especially in this day and age of stars sitting those games out. It used to be about motivation factors and to the most extent I think it still is. Who has something to prove, and who doesn't really give that much of a rat's ass. But now we have stars just flat out refusing to play period. Back when their were much less bowl games and when the major bowls hadn't been highjacked by the playoff games. I think there was a time when teams played hard in the bowl games 110% kinda stuff. I think when there were less games it was considered more of an honor to get in one of those games. So you played hard.
I have seen no evidence of any wide spread taking it easy in games. Most I have seen, both teams play hard. There is an odd team disappointed about where they are, but I would argue it is very rare. Maybe not 110%, but that is a mathematical impossibility anyway.
Some individual players are going to sit it out, but the rest of the team is still there, playing hard.
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I do not think Yahoo is doing a Bowl Pick 'em this year. So here are my picks:
December 15
Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl
North Carolina A&T vs. Alcorn State
North Carolina A&T. Because they always seem to win this Bowl. I got nothing.
New Mexico Bowl
North Texas vs. Utah State
Utah State. Yeah, missing their coach, but they had enough of an offense to score 30+ on us. On the other hand, they gave up even more to our offense.
AutoNation Cure Bowl
Tulane vs. Louisiana
Tulane. Tulane's strength is running the ball. La's weakness is stopping the run. Works for me.
Mitsubishi Motors Las Vegas Bowl
Fresno State vs. Arizona State
Fresno State. ASU beat us; they have to be really good, right? But without Henry, I cannot take them.
Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Georgia Southern vs. Eastern Michigan
Georgia Southern. I suspect a MAC school will win a bowl game, but picking against them each time is the better bet.
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Middle Tennessee vs Appalachian State
Appalachian State. Played the Pennsylvania State close. Of course, it is only a Big Whatever school. Hardly counts.
December 18
Cheribundi Boca Raton Bowl
UAB vs. Northern Illinois
UAB. Just because of what they have done in resurrecting their team.
December 19
DXL Frisco Bowl
San Diego State vs. Ohio
San Diego State. My picks are a no MAC zone.
December 20
Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl
Marshall vs. South Florida
Marshall. Because SoFla has been sucking it lately.
Makers Wanted Bahamas Bowl
FIU vs. Toledo
FIU. In addition to the whole no MAC thing... you live in Toledo. Suddenly, you are in the Bahamas. Can you concentrate? Hell no you cannot concentrate.
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Western Michigan vs. BYU
BYO.
December 22
Jared Birmingham Bowl
Memphis vs. Wake Forest
Memphis. Both teams have great offense and awful defenses. Memphis has a slightly better offense and marginally less bad defense.
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Houston vs. Army
Army. The only reason I would want to watch this game isn't playing. Go Army.
Dollar General Bowl
Buffalo vs. Troy
Troy. Assuming Buffalo does not hide in a giant horse.
SoFi Hawai'i Bowl
Louisiana Tech vs. Hawaii
Lady Techsters. I think I make that joke about La Tech every year. I am not sure it was ever funny.
December 26
SERVPRO First Responder Bowl
Boston College vs. Boise State
Boise State. Not impressed with BC's defense.
Quick Lane Bowl
Minnesota vs. Georgia Tech
Georgia Tech. Gophers have suspended half the team, and had difficulty with running QBs all year.
Cheez-It Bowl
California vs. TCU
TCU. Cal's offense does not seem capable of putting up many points.
December 27
Walk-On's Independence Bowl
Temple vs. Duke
Duke. I read this as "Temple Drake" and was going to make a Sanctuary joke.
New Era Pinstripe Bowl
Miami vs. Wisconsin
Wisconsin. Because they have the best player on the field, and want to not be here less than Miami wants to not be here.
Academy Sports + Outdoors Texas Bowl
Baylor vs. Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt. I always envision that Anderson Cooper goes to Biltmore in Asheville and looks around and thinks, Remind me, why isn't this mine?
December 28
Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Purdue vs. Auburn
Auburn. The Boilermakers have a capable team. But a poor defense.
Camping World Bowl
West Virginia vs. Syracuse
Syracuse. Even if Will Grier had come down from Walton Mountain, I would still pick agaisnt them.
Valero Alamo Bowl
Iowa State vs. Washington State
Washington State. We drove through the Palouse this summer. Pretty place. Iowa is.... not.
December 29
Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
No. 10 Florida vs. No. 7 Michigan
Florida. What the hell do you think I was going to pick?
Belk Bowl
South Carolina vs. Virginia
South Carolina. They have played the tougher competition.
NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl
Arkansas State vs. Nevada
The RedWolf Pack. I don't know and I don't care. Nevada I guess,
College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
No. 2 Clemson vs. No. 3 Notre Dame
ClemSIN. Notre Dame is not in their league. Though they should be.
College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Capital One Orange Bowl
No. 1 Alabama vs. No. 4 Oklahoma
Alabama.
December 31
Military Bowl Presented by Northrop Grumman
Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech
Cincinnati. VTU has no business being in a bowl this year.
Hyundai Sun Bowl
Stanford vs. Pittsburgh
Stanford. I think the Fightin" Nards have had a betteryear than I thought they would.
Redbox Bowl
Michigan State vs. Oregon
MICHIGAN STATE OF FUCKING COURSE. Jump starting the 2019 National Championship run. A month to heal up.
AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Missouri vs. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State. A defensive struggle.
San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl
Northwestern vs. Utah
Northwestern.
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl
NC State vs. Texas A&M
TAMU. I am tired.
January 1
Outback Bowl
Mississippi State vs. Iowa
Iowa.
VRBO Citrus Bowl
Kentucky vs. Penn State
Pennsylvania State. One benefit of not being in the playoffs: PSU rolls down into a game it can win.
PlayStation Fiesta Bowl
No. 11 LSU vs. No. 8 UCF
LSU. Maybe if Milton had not gotten hurt, I would think this would be a closer game.
Rose Bowl Game Presented by Northwestern Mutual
No. 9 Washington vs. No. 6 Ohio State
Ohio State. I have no explanation for Purdue or Maryland, but OSU has the talent and the coaching.
Allstate Sugar Bowl
No. 15 Texas vs. No. 5 Georgia
Texas. Because Georgia thinks they should not be here.
January 7
College Football Playoff National Championship Presented By AT&T
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When we know who is in it.
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The talk of expanding to 8 playoff teams is circulating among the powers-that-be in College Football Athletic offices. The current 4 team playoff has been successful and has 7 years left on its original contract. But, in truth, only the SEC can be entirely happy.
A number of athletic directors and commissioners of other conferences have a different perspective. They feel that the system is designed to benefit the SEC, and they point to examples from this year’s final rankings as evidence: Florida at No. 10, despite the two FCS games; LSU hovering at No. 7 after its blowout loss to Alabama; the Gators and Tigers making New Year’s Six bowl games ahead of Penn State and Washington State, which both played nine conference games; and a two-loss, non-champion Georgia slotted ahead of Ohio State, a one-loss conference champion.
The proposal getting the most chat right now is 5 conference Champs, the non-power -5 highest rated and two wild cards. Conference Championship games will be replaced by the first round games at the homes of the top four ranked teams.
The thing is that all of the people on the committee that vote/rank/rate, whatever word one wants to use, have access to the teams SOS playing nine games eight games. So IMO complaining about it is nothing more than just a smokescreen. If Georgia had played one more SEC game most likely they win it. So again smokescreen.
Now, wait, God's Conference's excuse for only 8 conference games, and for playing that penultimate week of cookies, is how tough the conference is. Now, you are poo-pooing the lower reaches of the league? Mike Silve's ghost will NOT be happy with you.
If tOSU had only played 8 conference games, and one was not Purdue, what would your thought be about tOSU's chance to win that game? Actually playing the game is a risk. That extra conference game can be a killer.
First I wasn't poopooing the lower reaches of the SEC, just the lower reaches of the Big Ten. If the SEC played an extra game they'd actually be playing good teams, If they played the Big Ten's lower reaches it would be just like playing Memphis. Well no, Memphis is probably better than Purdue. But that's the point.
No, I was saying that in this particular instance with Georgia it probably wouldn't have mattered. As to your Purdue contention it is more a testament of OSU's flaws rather than they played someone tough in their conference. It is my contention that Georgia would have mopped the field with Purdue frontwards and backwards. You may disagree. So in that particular instance of complaining about Georgia and LSU(blown out by Alabama? Fuck everyone can be blown out by Alabama. LSU blown out by Purdue? Do you think it would have happened? Be honest.) No, IMO it's is simply a case of whining. You may feel differently. And I'm sure OSU, by all indications from this year, could have looked just as inept and even gotten beaten against a non-conference team as well. And yes, IMO I'm sure that I and many other reputable sports pundits believe the Big Ten is the easily discernable weaker conference(at least this year) compared to the SEC. You may again disagree.
The other conference's ADs and Commissioners are just whining. Yes, whining. People think LSU is overrated, okay that's their prerogative. Opinions vary. Sure it's possible that Georgia loses an extra game by playing Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, Miss St, and Tex A&M.
They'd sure as hell be favored even more had they had to face any of the Big 10 West teams or the PAC South teams or the ACC Coastal teams, or any of the Big 12 teams not named Oklahoma Sooners. All this has to enter into a Committee voters minds. I know what my mind would think given all of the same information. Either real or the SOS speculative scenarios I just laid out. Whining. Nothing more than that.
But the point is they DIDN'T play any of those teams instead of a ninth conference game. The current schedule model is one power five team out of conference (though some, like tOSU this year, play two. Granted, everyone licked the Beavers this year, but they are a P5 school). Georgia, Alabama did that. So what did they replace that extra conference game they did not play with? Citadel? Louisiana Lafayette? Yes, it does enter into the strength of schedule, but the risk they are avoiding is the risk of a Purdue result. The loss, the second loss especially; those mean way more than the strength of schedule.
As I stated, and gave reasons above to defend that statement, it's not a very good point. Because where the top teams specifically mentioned, Ga/LSU, are involved(OSU) it most likely wouldn't have mattered. But especially as I said if they had to prove themselves against Purdue. Again you may disagree about that. I believe that most honest observers wouldn't disagree. Now granted the SEC can produce teams that would be more formidable than Purdue so the SEC would have more of a chance for their top teams to stumble. But in the specific case of the SEC teams that the article uses it's BS. I say this because yeah, LSU and Georgia would take Purdue apart. IMO. Additionally as to LSU and Florida are either one of them ranked ahead of Michigan? No. Should Georgia be ranked ahead of OSU? IMO yes. Did the fact that Georgia, LSU, and Florida didn't play Purdue but OSU did and lost mean a lot in the grand scheme of things? Not that I can see. You may disagree. So once again, I don't blame them for whining. But I see it for what it is.
Now I don't blame them for whining mind you. But lets call it for what it is. System advantage? That's why Georgia is ranked ahead of OSU? IMO that's just a bunch of whiny bullshit.
No, it is a clear system advantage, and a real issue.
Additionally, and not really related to the above, I used to think the bowls games meant something as far as the power of the conferences went. But lately I'm beginning to rethink that assumption too. Especially in this day and age of stars sitting those games out. It used to be about motivation factors and to the most extent I think it still is. Who has something to prove, and who doesn't really give that much of a rat's ass. But now we have stars just flat out refusing to play period. Back when their were much less bowl games and when the major bowls hadn't been highjacked by the playoff games. I think there was a time when teams played hard in the bowl games 110% kinda stuff. I think when there were less games it was considered more of an honor to get in one of those games. So you played hard.
I have seen no evidence of any wide spread taking it easy in games. Most I have seen, both teams play hard. There is an odd team disappointed about where they are, but I would argue it is very rare. Maybe not 110%, but that is a mathematical impossibility anyway.
Some individual players are going to sit it out, but the rest of the team is still there, playing hard.
Okay fair enough you don't see it. Which indicates you don't believe it happens. I disagree with you on that. I believe I can discern when a team is collectively fired up to full on feeding frenzy and when they're not. It's not easy, there's no flashing red arrow that says look here this is the indicator. No it's incredibly subtle.
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I do not think Yahoo is doing a Bowl Pick 'em this year. So here are my picks:
December 15
Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl
North Carolina A&T vs. Alcorn State
North Carolina A&T. Because they always seem to win this Bowl. I got nothing.
New Mexico Bowl
North Texas vs. Utah State
Utah State. Yeah, missing their coach, but they had enough of an offense to score 30+ on us. On the other hand, they gave up even more to our offense.
AutoNation Cure Bowl
Tulane vs. Louisiana
Tulane. Tulane's strength is running the ball. La's weakness is stopping the run. Works for me.
Mitsubishi Motors Las Vegas Bowl
Fresno State vs. Arizona State
Fresno State. ASU beat us; they have to be really good, right? But without Henry, I cannot take them.
Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Georgia Southern vs. Eastern Michigan
Georgia Southern. I suspect a MAC school will win a bowl game, but picking against them each time is the better bet.
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Middle Tennessee vs Appalachian State
Appalachian State. Played the Pennsylvania State close. Of course, it is only a Big Whatever school. Hardly counts.
December 18
Cheribundi Boca Raton Bowl
UAB vs. Northern Illinois
UAB. Just because of what they have done in resurrecting their team.
December 19
DXL Frisco Bowl
San Diego State vs. Ohio
San Diego State. My picks are a no MAC zone.
December 20
Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl
Marshall vs. South Florida
Marshall. Because SoFla has been sucking it lately.
Makers Wanted Bahamas Bowl
FIU vs. Toledo
FIU. In addition to the whole no MAC thing... you live in Toledo. Suddenly, you are in the Bahamas. Can you concentrate? Hell no you cannot concentrate.
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Western Michigan vs. BYU
BYO.
December 22
Jared Birmingham Bowl
Memphis vs. Wake Forest
Memphis. Both teams have great offense and awful defenses. Memphis has a slightly better offense and marginally less bad defense.
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Houston vs. Army
Army. The only reason I would want to watch this game isn't playing. Go Army.
Dollar General Bowl
Buffalo vs. Troy
Troy. Assuming Buffalo does not hide in a giant horse.
SoFi Hawai'i Bowl
Louisiana Tech vs. Hawaii
Lady Techsters. I think I make that joke about La Tech every year. I am not sure it was ever funny.
December 26
SERVPRO First Responder Bowl
Boston College vs. Boise State
Boise State. Not impressed with BC's defense.
Quick Lane Bowl
Minnesota vs. Georgia Tech
Georgia Tech. Gophers have suspended half the team, and had difficulty with running QBs all year.
Cheez-It Bowl
California vs. TCU
TCU. Cal's offense does not seem capable of putting up many points.
December 27
Walk-On's Independence Bowl
Temple vs. Duke
Duke. I read this as "Temple Drake" and was going to make a Sanctuary joke.
New Era Pinstripe Bowl
Miami vs. Wisconsin
Wisconsin. Because they have the best player on the field, and want to not be here less than Miami wants to not be here.
Academy Sports + Outdoors Texas Bowl
Baylor vs. Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt. I always envision that Anderson Cooper goes to Biltmore in Asheville and looks around and thinks, Remind me, why isn't this mine?
December 28
Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Purdue vs. Auburn
Auburn. The Boilermakers have a capable team. But a poor defense.
Camping World Bowl
West Virginia vs. Syracuse
Syracuse. Even if Will Grier had come down from Walton Mountain, I would still pick agaisnt them.
Valero Alamo Bowl
Iowa State vs. Washington State
Washington State. We drove through the Palouse this summer. Pretty place. Iowa is.... not.
December 29
Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
No. 10 Florida vs. No. 7 Michigan
Florida. What the hell do you think I was going to pick?
Belk Bowl
South Carolina vs. Virginia
South Carolina. They have played the tougher competition.
NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl
Arkansas State vs. Nevada
The RedWolf Pack. I don't know and I don't care. Nevada I guess,
College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
No. 2 Clemson vs. No. 3 Notre Dame
ClemSIN. Notre Dame is not in their league. Though they should be.
College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Capital One Orange Bowl
No. 1 Alabama vs. No. 4 Oklahoma
Alabama.
December 31
Military Bowl Presented by Northrop Grumman
Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech
Cincinnati. VTU has no business being in a bowl this year.
Hyundai Sun Bowl
Stanford vs. Pittsburgh
Stanford. I think the Fightin" Nards have had a betteryear than I thought they would.
Redbox Bowl
Michigan State vs. Oregon
MICHIGAN STATE OF FUCKING COURSE. Jump starting the 2019 National Championship run. A month to heal up.
AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Missouri vs. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State. A defensive struggle.
San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl
Northwestern vs. Utah
Northwestern.
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl
NC State vs. Texas A&M
TAMU. I am tired.
January 1
Outback Bowl
Mississippi State vs. Iowa
Iowa.
VRBO Citrus Bowl
Kentucky vs. Penn State
Pennsylvania State. One benefit of not being in the playoffs: PSU rolls down into a game it can win.
PlayStation Fiesta Bowl
No. 11 LSU vs. No. 8 UCF
LSU. Maybe if Milton had not gotten hurt, I would think this would be a closer game.
Rose Bowl Game Presented by Northwestern Mutual
No. 9 Washington vs. No. 6 Ohio State
Ohio State. I have no explanation for Purdue or Maryland, but OSU has the talent and the coaching.
Allstate Sugar Bowl
No. 15 Texas vs. No. 5 Georgia
Texas. Because Georgia thinks they should not be here.
January 7
College Football Playoff National Championship Presented By AT&T
When we know who is in it.
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If it's not on Yahoo how will we know it's official?
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I may have an alternate to Yahoo. Never tried this before. But I'll need everyone's email addy to send an invite to join.
It'll have to be fast because the games start Saturday.
So if you want in start sending me your addys right now. You can either just post it here or send me a private message.
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I do not think Yahoo is doing a Bowl Pick 'em this year. So here are my picks:
December 15
Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl
North Carolina A&T vs. Alcorn State
North Carolina A&T. Because they always seem to win this Bowl. I got nothing.
New Mexico Bowl
North Texas vs. Utah State
Utah State. Yeah, missing their coach, but they had enough of an offense to score 30+ on us. On the other hand, they gave up even more to our offense.
AutoNation Cure Bowl
Tulane vs. Louisiana
Tulane. Tulane's strength is running the ball. La's weakness is stopping the run. Works for me.
Mitsubishi Motors Las Vegas Bowl
Fresno State vs. Arizona State
Fresno State. ASU beat us; they have to be really good, right? But without Henry, I cannot take them.
Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Georgia Southern vs. Eastern Michigan
Georgia Southern. I suspect a MAC school will win a bowl game, but picking against them each time is the better bet.
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Middle Tennessee vs Appalachian State
Appalachian State. Played the Pennsylvania State close. Of course, it is only a Big Whatever school. Hardly counts.
December 18
Cheribundi Boca Raton Bowl
UAB vs. Northern Illinois
UAB. Just because of what they have done in resurrecting their team.
December 19
DXL Frisco Bowl
San Diego State vs. Ohio
San Diego State. My picks are a no MAC zone.
December 20
Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl
Marshall vs. South Florida
Marshall. Because SoFla has been sucking it lately.
Makers Wanted Bahamas Bowl
FIU vs. Toledo
FIU. In addition to the whole no MAC thing... you live in Toledo. Suddenly, you are in the Bahamas. Can you concentrate? Hell no you cannot concentrate.
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Western Michigan vs. BYU
BYO.
December 22
Jared Birmingham Bowl
Memphis vs. Wake Forest
Memphis. Both teams have great offense and awful defenses. Memphis has a slightly better offense and marginally less bad defense.
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Houston vs. Army
Army. The only reason I would want to watch this game isn't playing. Go Army.
Dollar General Bowl
Buffalo vs. Troy
Troy. Assuming Buffalo does not hide in a giant horse.
SoFi Hawai'i Bowl
Louisiana Tech vs. Hawaii
Lady Techsters. I think I make that joke about La Tech every year. I am not sure it was ever funny.
December 26
SERVPRO First Responder Bowl
Boston College vs. Boise State
Boise State. Not impressed with BC's defense.
Quick Lane Bowl
Minnesota vs. Georgia Tech
Georgia Tech. Gophers have suspended half the team, and had difficulty with running QBs all year.
Cheez-It Bowl
California vs. TCU
TCU. Cal's offense does not seem capable of putting up many points.
December 27
Walk-On's Independence Bowl
Temple vs. Duke
Duke. I read this as "Temple Drake" and was going to make a Sanctuary joke.
New Era Pinstripe Bowl
Miami vs. Wisconsin
Wisconsin. Because they have the best player on the field, and want to not be here less than Miami wants to not be here.
Academy Sports + Outdoors Texas Bowl
Baylor vs. Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt. I always envision that Anderson Cooper goes to Biltmore in Asheville and looks around and thinks, Remind me, why isn't this mine?
December 28
Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Purdue vs. Auburn
Auburn. The Boilermakers have a capable team. But a poor defense.
Camping World Bowl
West Virginia vs. Syracuse
Syracuse. Even if Will Grier had come down from Walton Mountain, I would still pick agaisnt them.
Valero Alamo Bowl
Iowa State vs. Washington State
Washington State. We drove through the Palouse this summer. Pretty place. Iowa is.... not.
December 29
Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
No. 10 Florida vs. No. 7 Michigan
Florida. What the hell do you think I was going to pick?
Belk Bowl
South Carolina vs. Virginia
South Carolina. They have played the tougher competition.
NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl
Arkansas State vs. Nevada
The RedWolf Pack. I don't know and I don't care. Nevada I guess,
College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
No. 2 Clemson vs. No. 3 Notre Dame
ClemSIN. Notre Dame is not in their league. Though they should be.
College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Capital One Orange Bowl
No. 1 Alabama vs. No. 4 Oklahoma
Alabama.
December 31
Military Bowl Presented by Northrop Grumman
Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech
Cincinnati. VTU has no business being in a bowl this year.
Hyundai Sun Bowl
Stanford vs. Pittsburgh
Stanford. I think the Fightin" Nards have had a betteryear than I thought they would.
Redbox Bowl
Michigan State vs. Oregon
MICHIGAN STATE OF FUCKING COURSE. Jump starting the 2019 National Championship run. A month to heal up.
AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Missouri vs. Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State. A defensive struggle.
San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl
Northwestern vs. Utah
Northwestern.
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl
NC State vs. Texas A&M
TAMU. I am tired.
January 1
Outback Bowl
Mississippi State vs. Iowa
Iowa.
VRBO Citrus Bowl
Kentucky vs. Penn State
Pennsylvania State. One benefit of not being in the playoffs: PSU rolls down into a game it can win.
PlayStation Fiesta Bowl
No. 11 LSU vs. No. 8 UCF
LSU. Maybe if Milton had not gotten hurt, I would think this would be a closer game.
Rose Bowl Game Presented by Northwestern Mutual
No. 9 Washington vs. No. 6 Ohio State
Ohio State. I have no explanation for Purdue or Maryland, but OSU has the talent and the coaching.
Allstate Sugar Bowl
No. 15 Texas vs. No. 5 Georgia
Texas. Because Georgia thinks they should not be here.
January 7
College Football Playoff National Championship Presented By AT&T
When we know who is in it.
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boz
if you're so inclined, I'm lazy, ESPN has a bowl pick'em set-up
http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/groupfind (http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/groupfind)
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On the other hand, you are replacing the revenue from the championship game with revenue from the playoff game. If you manage to have both, say 0laying the dead week after conference championship games you are adding new 4evenue. But I guess you make the scholars play one more game, so there is that.
The biggest hurdle for an expanded playoff are the Conference CG games, especially the SEC’s. In fact I would bet the SEC just would not eliminate it. And I don’t think ESPN is all that hot about writing another big check if the first round starts in early December with the NFL in full swing.
Maybe there could be hybrid schedules with some conferences with 12 games, others with 11 and a CG.
Or maybe there is a revision of four teams with stricter scheduling rules.
I doubt they will do nothing but a change is a big gamble with the present format doing better than expected.
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I do not think Yahoo is doing a Bowl Pick 'em this year. So here are my picks:
Blah blah blah(meant in a nice way) just to shorten the post.
When we know who is in it.
boz
if you're so inclined, I'm lazy, ESPN has a bowl pick'em set-up
http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/groupfind (http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/groupfind)
Or you can go here, this is the one I found.
https://www.funofficepools.com/createaccount.php (https://www.funofficepools.com/createaccount.php)
Besides I'm sure you wouldn't have liked my password.
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I do not think Yahoo is doing a Bowl Pick 'em this year. So here are my picks:
Blah blah blah(meant in a nice way) just to shorten the post.
When we know who is in it.
boz
if you're so inclined, I'm lazy, ESPN has a bowl pick'em set-up
http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/groupfind (http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/groupfind)
Or you can go here, this is the one I found.
https://www.funofficepools.com/createaccount.php (https://www.funofficepools.com/createaccount.php)
Besides I'm sure you wouldn't have liked my password.
Unfortunately this site seems to want money to continue. I will try and see if I can navigate the pool Rich suggested. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Gave Rich's suggestion a try. This is what I have. Give it a try.
Group name Elba
Password: cappyisright
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Having a hard time joining that group. How do I do it?
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Did you click on Rich's link?
I had to then login with facebook. Try that.
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Anyone else having trouble?
Maybe cappyisn'tright. :-)
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I've logged into ESPN and found Elba. I'm just not finding how to join the group. Because at the end of the day, I'm very, very stupid.
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Did you click on Rich's link?
I had to then login with facebook. Try that.
There are two...
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Ok I am in, but I could not find where I reset my password. Look forward to getting a numerical entry e ey goddamned time Iog in.
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Ok I am in, but I could not find where I reset my password. Look forward to getting a numerical entry e ey goddamned time Iog in.
Okay. What did you do to join?
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Never mind. I'm in. And now I'll take my 30 seconds to make my picks
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Done!
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I've logged into ESPN and found Elba. I'm just not finding how to join the group. Because at the end of the day, I'm very, very stupid.
You are far from stupid. But if Steve is right I'm not sure how there are two.
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Not sure I'm going to make it this year Boys. I don't seem to have the time I used to.
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Not sure I'm going to make it this year Boys. I don't seem to have the time I used to.
Well, shit it only took YG 30 seconds. He'll probably win the freakin thing.
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Okay, I see how there are two. The Fightin Elbans is from last year. Ignore that one.
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Nice to see the young man is going to play in the Rose Bowl.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25522149/dremont-jones-ohio-state-buckeyes-defensive-tackle-entering-nfl-draft (http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25522149/dremont-jones-ohio-state-buckeyes-defensive-tackle-entering-nfl-draft)
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Okay I'm in. Looks like there are only three brave souls this year.
Haven't seen JB maybe he fell off his scooter.
Driver and Bo seem to be no shows. Scotty hasn't got five minutes to rub together lately.
And we all know Skipster has never had the stones for it.
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Oh and Rich hasn't hopped onboard yet.
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Haven't seen DJ either come to think of it. Wonder if the old boy is still alive and kickin.
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Haven't seen DJ either come to think of it. Wonder if the old boy is still alive and kickin.
In the spirit of the season I will bite my tongue.
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I tried to join but did not see the the way to enter a group name or p/w
if someone could post a shortcut etc.
thanks
ps. I typed cappyisright and it just kicked me and redirected me to the SEC homepage
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Heh.
My getting in was trial and error. There must be a way to pass along, but I can't figure it out. Sorry.
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I tried to join but did not see the the way to enter a group name or p/w
if someone could post a shortcut etc.
thanks
ps. I typed cappyisright and it just kicked me and redirected me to the SEC homepage
Rich: give me an email addy either by PM or right here. Then it will let me send you an invitation.
And everyone's a comedian. :-)
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Haven't seen DJ either come to think of it. Wonder if the old boy is still alive and kickin.
In the spirit of the season I will bite my tongue.
Hey, allow me, Whiskey. I know that the holiday season wouldn’t stop DJ from being a terminal butt-head.
Has anyone done a search of police blotters to locate the aforementioned DJ Butt-head? Look for people arrested in bus station restrooms…..people most probably without bail money who are still currently incarcerated.....
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I tried to join but did not see the the way to enter a group name or p/w
if someone could post a shortcut etc.
thanks
ps. I typed cappyisright and it just kicked me and redirected me to the SEC homepage
Rich: give me an email addy either by PM or right here. Then it will let me send you an invitation.
And everyone's a comedian. :-)
Cap if you could PM me the invite that would be great.
thanks
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Mulvaney is an idiot.
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I went to Yahoo to find there is no there there and I just looked at ESPN and now have a headaches the ones you get from reading Skippy's posts and it will be too late for an email from Cap now so I'll sit this year out which means I'll be undefeated in the picks I make to myself
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Congratulations to Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin.
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Mulvaney is an idiot.
But he'll still be only acting chief of staff.
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Mulvaney is an idiot.
Too true, Bottle. But he’s the nasty little kind of creep that Trump just loves. And as long he doesn’t say things like “Trump is a miserable human being” again he and the Orange Ogre should get on just fine. Mulvaney will be happy to go in front of the cameras and virtually dare people to say that he’s lying….same as Kelly Con-job or Sarah Huckelberry Hounddog do.
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I tried to join but did not see the the way to enter a group name or p/w
if someone could post a shortcut etc.
thanks
ps. I typed cappyisright and it just kicked me and redirected me to the SEC homepage
Rich: give me an email addy either by PM or right here. Then it will let me send you an invitation.
And everyone's a comedian. :-)
Cap if you could PM me the invite that would be great.
thanks
Tried it won't let me send the invite to the PM ADDY. It wasn't an e-mail addy. Sorry.
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http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535 (http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535)
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That's the best I can do Rich and Bo. There's a link that says join group. Should take you to the password phase. If it doesn't you could always post your picks here.
Lazy ass Steve wouldn't do the math but I will. ;-)
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http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535 (http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535)
thanks cap
I'll see if I can get in.
Do all the picks have to be in today?
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Congratulations to Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin.
Now that was a good game. Mary Hardin's defense proved to be a little too tough for the Purple Meanies in the second half.
That first TD pass by Hammack was amazing. Good catch too. The earlier pass by him off his back foot from good Union defensive pressure was even better I think. Being down 10 that series really got the Cru back in the game.
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http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535 (http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535)
thanks cap
I'll see if I can get in.
Do all the picks have to be in today?
No I think you just have to start, save what you have before the individual games start.
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http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535 (http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535)
thanks cap
I'll see if I can get in.
Do all the picks have to be in today?
No I think you just have to start, save what you have before the individual games start.
Its weird-I can't get in as there's no field to join the group/enter the p/w.
If time allows and I find my lucky flipping coin, I'll post my WAG picks
thanks again cap.
and good luck to all
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Saturday lines
Texans -6 @ NY Jets 41.5
Denver -8.5 vs Browns 46.5
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http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535 (http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2018/en/group?groupID=232535)
thanks cap
I'll see if I can get in.
Do all the picks have to be in today?
No I think you just have to start, save what you have before the individual games start.
Its weird-I can't get in as there's no field to join the group/enter the p/w.
If time allows and I find my lucky flipping coin, I'll post my WAG picks
thanks again cap.
and good luck to all
It may be that you needed to create your account and account name first.
After that I don't have any real idea why Steve and YG could get in and you and Bo couldn't.
That the way the ball bounces sometimes I guess. :-)
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That's the best I can do Rich and Bo. There's a link that says join group. Should take you to the password phase. If it doesn't you could always post your picks here.
Lazy ass Steve wouldn't do the math but I will. ;-)
Not so much lazy as wildly inaccurate.
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That's the best I can do Rich and Bo. There's a link that says join group. Should take you to the password phase. If it doesn't you could always post your picks here.
Lazy ass Steve wouldn't do the math but I will. ;-)
Not so much lazy as wildly inaccurate.
Hard to fathom. It's not like you to be innaccurate.
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That's the best I can do Rich and Bo. There's a link that says join group. Should take you to the password phase. If it doesn't you could always post your picks here.
Lazy ass Steve wouldn't do the math but I will. ;-)
Not so much lazy as wildly inaccurate.
Hard to fathom. It's not like you to be innaccurate.
Maths.
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You call yourself a BOWL GAME you son of a bitch??
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LOL
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Well it looks like the three of us are just about neck and neck so far. Steve and myself picked the correct upset as the Cajuns were not Ragin, just grumbling, as the only difference.
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The Third Man on TCM tonight. You know who you are.
It is also on Netflix, albeit with Cotton's opening narration and occasional German subtitles. I also own a DVD. So although I have holiday stuff tonight, I can watch the greatest movie in the history of mankind at my leisure
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One doesn't hear much zither these days.
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I prefer the Dulcimer
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I prefer the Dulcimer
"He'll have you in a dither with his zither!" works better than "He'll give you a tremor with his dulcimer'c
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Right. I'll continue this blither and not that the first one would definitely have one in a tither.
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One of the more entertaining bowl games of the 1994 season. The 1995 Florida Citrus Bowl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niWhcM8QR0o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niWhcM8QR0o)
There's something else I remember about that season too but I just can't put my finger on it. The number 49 seems to have something to do with it. Now what was it? Hmmm.
Oh wait, now I remember. Collins was a drunken asshole but he has a rifle arm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K2j09i1jLY
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K2j09i1jLY)
For a minute I thought it was this but the 49 didn't fit.
And also as the fates would have it, a shout out to Scotty. ;-)
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When you have a Dairy Cattle Teaching and Research Center, you don't just own being a Cow College, you embrace it.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/567927/forget-therapy-puppies-michigan-state-students-brush-cows-de-stress-finals
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When you have a Dairy Cattle Teaching and Research Center, you don't just own being a Cow College, you embrace it.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/567927/forget-therapy-puppies-michigan-state-students-brush-cows-de-stress-finals
Never brushed our cows. They did like it when you scratched them on the forehead.
Had a horse I brushed though.
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Forty years ago the first live ESPN broadcast began:
If you're a fan, if you're a fan, what you'll see in the next minutes, hours and days to follow may convince you you've gone to sports heaven."
Lee Leonard, ESPN’s first Sports Anchorman, died today at 89.
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Terpsdream is losing ground going into the first turn with RunStevoRun and CapsPride neck and neck.
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Next time I'll take even less time with my picks.
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Among this morning’s text messages:
A friend of mine has two tickets for the Rose Bowl, both box seats. He paid $2,500 each but he didn't realize last year when he bought them, it was going to be on the same day as his wedding.
If you are interested, he is looking for someone to take his place...
It's at The Methodist Church in Murfreesboro at 3:00. The bride's name is Nicole, she's 5'4", about 115 lbs, good cook too.....
She'll be the one in the white dress.
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Ha!
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Among this morning’s text messages:
A friend of mine has two tickets for the Rose Bowl, both box seats. He paid $2,500 each but he didn't realize last year when he bought them, it was going to be on the same day as his wedding.
If you are interested, he is looking for someone to take his place...
It's at The Methodist Church in Murfreesboro at 3:00. The bride's name is Nicole, she's 5'4", about 115 lbs, good cook too.....
She'll be the one in the white dress.
Not bad Skip, not bad.
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Well, the MAC was bound to win one.
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I was sure you'd have the MAC team.
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I was sure you'd have the MAC team.
i posted my picks....
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I was sure you'd have the MAC team.
i posted my picks....
Yeah I know, but I disregarded them once we went to the pick-em. And maybe you would come to your senses.
And I wouldn't hold you to them anyways. Because if the pick-em we're using allows you to change your mind before game time(it does) and you want to take advantage of it. Cool with me. Delete the other post if you want to as far as I'm concerned.
Both of you guys know that you are allowed to adjust right up until game time right?
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I know you would not hold me to the posted pics but I am not going to give a second thought to who will win the Walmart Roller Dog Bowl.
I figured the MAC was good for one win, and it was not worth the mental effort to figure out which one. I picked against them in all their games.
I was listening to ESPN radio on my way into work and they had a game where you named a bowl after the last place you shopped and the last thing you ate. Mine made me think my entire life was a waste of time and potential.
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Well, the MAC was bound to win one.
Always perilous to pick against Frank Solich.
He is still the coach with the best winning per cent age at Nebraska post-Tom Osborne
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I know you would not hold me to the posted pics but I am not going to give a second thought to who will win the Walmart Roller Dog Bowl.
I figured the MAC was good for one win, and it was not worth the mental effort to figure out which one. I picked against them in all their games.
I was listening to ESPN radio on my way into work and they had a game where you named a bowl after the last place you shopped and the last thing you ate. Mine made me think my entire life was a waste of time and potential.
The MAC, onetime home of the powerhouse cupcakes. How the mighty have fallen.
And I'll stay away from me naming bowl games. I'm not all that hip on the name of the Bob's Boots n Stuff Golubtsi Bowl.
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Well, the MAC was bound to win one.
Always perilous to pick against Frank Solich.
He is still the coach with the best winning per cent age at Nebraska post-Tom Osborne
Yep.
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Biting my tongue.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25583852/urban-meyer-teach-leadership-class-ohio-state-buckeyes-business-school (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25583852/urban-meyer-teach-leadership-class-ohio-state-buckeyes-business-school)
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I caught about 10 minutes of Fresno State vs Arizona St...and that is the full extent of what I have seen of the bowl season thus far.
I'm hoping to spend a bit of time today catching up...
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Mike Norvell made some pretty piss poor decisions at the end of that game.
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I took the Cadets but I didn't think they'd put this kind of whuppin on Houston. Wow.
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That Army defense is sticking. POP!
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Urban Meyer is preparing to coach his final game at Ohio State on New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl, but he won't be leaving the Ohio State athletic department when the game is finished.
Instead, he'll help run it.
Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith says that Meyer will be taking on the title of assistant athletic director.
Smith told Cleveland.com that Meyer will hold the title of assistant athletic director, though he's not yet sure of the specifics. He also explained how he might handle things if he feels Meyer is hanging around football in a way that could make life more difficult on new head coach Ryan Day.
"I'm not that worried about it, but it's something we have to pay attention to," Smith said. "I'm not that worried because of our relationship. I'm very direct with him. If I see him step over, I'll say, 'Hey, buddy, let's talk about that.' We have that relationship where I can say, 'Brother, you've got to be careful here. What are you doing?'"
While Smith may not be specific about what the job will entail for Meyer, he did say that Meyer will help to raise money, do speaking engagements, and other things like teaching a leadership class.
Smith also said he's not sure how Meyer will manage his new role with the school while making sure not to get too involved with the football program, saying "my team has to be very diligent in helping him understand that you've got to maintain that separation." Smith also said that Meyer will be on the field during Ohio State football games.
It may be a new “Day” at tOSU, but the old days are close at hand.
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I told you, cap. Pick against the MAC. Not worth the effort figuring out which would be the one game they would.win.
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I told you, cap. Pick against the MAC. Not worth the effort figuring out which would be the one game they would.win.
LOL.
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Today's games
Take
Boise St -1.5
Georgia Tech -6
TCU +1
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Parlaying ND and OK moneyline for Saturday.
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I haven't picked wrong on a single bowl game so far . I expect to go unbeaten this year picking against myself. Uh huh
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I have done much better in the early games.than normal. I believe I actually picked "Lighening" for the First Responder Bowl.
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Justin Herbert just made Dwayne Haskins a very wealthy young man.
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Justin Herbert just made Dwayne Haskins a very wealthy young man.
I think that was inevitable. Now just little more wealthy.
But will he be the first player off the board though like Herbert most likely would have been?
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Justin Herbert just made Dwayne Haskins a very wealthy young man.
I think that was inevitable. Now just little more wealthy.
But will he be the first player off the board though like Herbert most likely would have been?
Only potential franchise QB in the draft. The Cards need as many picks as they can hold a team up for. With two, a team might play chicken. One? Nope.
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I have done much better in the early games.than normal. I believe I actually picked "Lighening" for the First Responder Bowl.
Now that I have joked about how well I am doing I expect to lose EVERY FUCKING GAME from here on.
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Boy the Cheez It Bowl was God Awful.
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Boy the Cheez It Bowl was God Awful.
At least it was aptly named.
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Boy the Cheez It Bowl was God Awful.
At least it was aptly named.
It may be a thin line between defensive excellence and offensive incompetence but by God I know it when I see it.
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Speaking of cheese, has Dexter Lawrence been set up? Something about the whole thing has a smell to it.
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Speaking of cheese, has Dexter Lawrence been set up? Something about the whole thing has a smell to it.
No, it explains ClemSIN's recent success. Cheating.
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LOL
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Temple -3
Wisconsin +2.5
Baylor +4
Record - 1-1
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Surprised there was no review on that interception. It looked like the guy landed out of bounds on the play face first. His feet didn't hit.
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WTF happened?
- guy who watched first half of Temple-Duke.
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The Owls got Jonesed.
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I’m fond of the Funnel Cakes at the State Fair.
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These wipes seem to be just about everywhere these days. And now we have ours. LOL
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This team beat OSU?
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West Virginia -3
Wash St -2.5
Record 3-2
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One step forward for BIGGY SMALLS w/WISCO perf vs. MIA, 2 steps back by Purdue inadvertently sending intramural team.
Side note: UGGA fan goes: “Oh, wait, now I remember why we fired REICH MARKT.
Pass the PUSOVER CHAIN...
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Gonna be an uphill battle for the Cuse if they have to fight the refs as well as the Mountaineers.
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Feel sorry for the Boilermakers. Lambs to the slaughter facing a Tiger team that was a bit better then their 7-5 record indicated. Again, how the fluck did they ever stomp the Buckeyes as bad as they did?
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Handicapper on Lock It In thought Purdue might win outright, put some of his fake cash on the +3.5.
Cited their recent running game.
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Uhh, WOW. Did that just happen? Yes, yes it did.
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If that had gone for a touchdown we would be seeing it daily for fucking years.
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For a minute I thought I was back in the 70's.
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Chippy game between old time rivals.
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Handicapper on Lock It In thought Purdue might win outright, put some of his fake cash on the +3.5.
Cited their recent running game.
Played them even in the second half.
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Cuse blitzing too much. Gets helped out by an offensive pick.
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Should go for it.
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I thought the guy broke open. TE's make lousy QBs.
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Hey cap, did you see the Browns activated former Mary Hardin Mary Hardin QB Blake Jackson from their practice squad (as a WR)?
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No kiddin? The Browns, they're almost average now. Alright.
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Idiot ref.
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Add Nevada, getting 1
Michigan is -4.5
ND is +11
OK is +14
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Everyone loves ND and the points.
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Finally watching a game...Michigan getting throttled.
At least Wisconsin won their game right?
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C.H.U.D. game opioid-fueled swan song last possible shred of (cough) dingyty, I mean dignity, the sooner that assholes “era” is over the better.
Is he going to take a class in leadership or teach one?? That some Orwellian sh!t right there. Be in your seats before the clock strikes 13 snowglobers.
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Finally watching a game...Michigan getting throttled.
Lifetime contract!
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Everyone loves ND and the points.
With only three of their many cheating PED users getting caught, my monet remains on ClemSIN.
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DAGGER!!
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Does anyone else find it mildly odd that the top two teams both had players suspended at almost the exact same time?
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A quick check, Stevo took Florida?
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YG in a blast of football intuition shrewdly takes the Cavs.
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Stick a fork in the Wolverines.
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Nice sign. ;-)
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Welcome to the Dan Mullen era of Florida football.
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A quick check, Stevo took Florida?
Wait - you thought there was a chance I would take Meatchicken?
Florida has a DB named Chauncey Gardner? Makes a habit of Being There when you need him. He likes to watch tape.
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Does anyone else find it mildly odd that the top two teams both had players suspended at almost the exact same time?
Cheating works if no one catches you.
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Let’s get it on!!
Tom Selleck??
Fuck.
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A quick check, Stevo took Florida?
Wait - you thought there was a chance I would take Meatchicken?
Florida has a DB named Chauncey Gardner? Makes a habit of Being There when you need him. He likes to watch tape.
To my knowledge that was one of the first movies to show hilarious outtakes, went with a buddy when I was 11, they just let us in...little theater in CLEM when I lived there for a short time as a kid.
Sellers is brilliant in that movie, ended up reading a lot of JK as a result.
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Welcome to the Dan Mullen era of Florida football.
If you can win in Starkville - probably the second most nowhere home in a Power 5 conference, behind Pullman, you should be able to win in Gainesville.
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A guy (since, sadIy, deceased) I went to middle school and HS with played the leader of the street gang that accosted Chauncey.
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A quick check, Stevo took Florida?
Wait - you thought there was a chance I would take Meatchicken?
Florida has a DB named Chauncey Gardner? Makes a habit of Being There when you need him. He likes to watch tape.
ended up reading a lot of JK as a result.
Or who ever actually wrote his stuff.
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Welcome to the Dan Mullen era of Florida football.
If you can win in Starkville - probably the second most nowhere home in a Power 5 conference, behind Pullman, you should be able to win in Gainesville.
Especially by scheduling multiple FCS teams in the regular season.
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"I believe this is it. Once again, that's between myself and my family, but I don't believe I'll coach football again. I feel like I am leaving on my own terms. I've been a Buckeye since I've been this big. I love this area. My dream was to hand it off to someone who I think is not only great but I think he'll make us stronger."
Urban Meyer to Chris Fowler
ESPN Game Day
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Welcome to the Dan Mullen era of Florida football.
If you can win in Starkville - probably the second most nowhere home in a Power 5 conference, behind Pullman, you should be able to win in Gainesville.
Especially by scheduling multiple FCS teams in the regular season.
Kicked the bejeezus out of Meatchicken, but that schedule putting them in the NY6 is one of the bones of contention in the 8/9 conference games debate. Replace, say, Auburn with Idaho and it is a lot easier to get to 2 or 3 losses.
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Let’s get it on!!
Tom Selleck??
I heard him say Tom Selleck after making a Clint Eastwood type reference...but I was only half paying attention. What was the Tom Selleck comment in reference to?
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Welcome to the Dan Mullen era of Florida football.
If you can win in Starkville - probably the second most nowhere home in a Power 5 conference, behind Pullman, you should be able to win in Gainesville.
Especially by scheduling multiple FCS teams in the regular season.
An expected response from you. LOL
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Gotta take one shot at the endzone.
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Holy crap wow.
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Finally watching a game...Michigan getting throttled.
Too often outcoached
Not talking about the head guy.
But its always gonna be about the q.b. Just wasn't near good enough today.
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Finally watching a game...Michigan getting throttled.
Too often outcoached
Not talking about the head guy.
But its always gonna be about the q.b. Just wasn't near good enough today.
"Michigan doesn't win the big games."
- Shea Patterson
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Hmmm.
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Congrats JB. That Tiger defense is a thing of beauty.
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Close.
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Looks like a TD to me. We'll see what the refs have to say.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
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Seemed a bit desperate to me. But then when you have a one Kleenex defense to stop a full blown ebola infection I guess you're stuck.
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So far Saban is standing on the sideline saying, 'Murray you magnificent bastard I read your book'.
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Seemed a bit desperate to me.
Do you really think it matters?
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Well hell, why not try an on sides kick? :-)
Just don't tip it off.
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That kick-off fair catch could be a huge deal.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
This year.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
This year.
In any year since the BCS cum Playoff started back to 1998
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If you say so. I imagine you're tilting at windmills, though.
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If you say so.
That is what forums are for.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Other than Alabama last year--how many 3 and 4 seeds have won?
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Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
I actually agree with you. We have rarely needed more than 2 teams in the playoff.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Other than Alabama last year--how many 3 and 4 seeds have won?
How.soon we forget. OSU was a 4 in year one. Oregon was the 3.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
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Congrats JB. That Tiger defense is a thing of beauty.
Our secondary showed up big. COCK qb picks us apart and we have double-digit coverage “sacks” today, and COCK skunked by Wahoo, embarrassing, I don’t care where you’re from...
Kelly’s not clever trick play with 6 minutes left in 1st and then we posterize them for two touches??
No clock management, no self awareness, shit we used to do...
Dismissed.
Again.
tosu??????
Irish scored 3.
Bye bye C.H.U.D.
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Stirs the drink and keeps the trains running on time...
We will blow Notre Dame out (read my lips)
[with big respect from a south cack guy who placed his first vote for Michael Dukakis, really]
Somebody's gotta do it
Somebody's gotta do it
Somebody,.. nope I can't do it.
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Scoredboard
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December 3: We will blow ND out, on the record, just saying...
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You know the difference between Lucky Charms and Notre Dame? One belongs in a bowl
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
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Stirs the drink and keeps the trains running on time...
We will blow Notre Dame out (read my lips)
[with big respect from a south cack guy who placed his first vote for Michael Dukakis, really]
Somebody's gotta do it
Somebody's gotta do it
Somebody,.. nope I can't do it.
Like I said, no matter how I tried to analyze ND keeping this game close, nope I just couldn't do it.
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Well said.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25642948/alabama-clemson-part-iv-historic-college-football-playoff-national-championship (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25642948/alabama-clemson-part-iv-historic-college-football-playoff-national-championship)
Instead of complaining about the sport's lack of parity and how it's becoming as predictable as the NBA or women's college basketball, ask yourself this: Why wouldn't you want to watch Alabama play Clemson again?
Their first two meetings in the CFP National Championship were two of the greatest college football games ever played; it's nearly impossible to decide which one was more memorable. And there's no reason to believe this season's edition at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, California, on Jan. 7 (8 p.m. ET on ESPN) won't be as electric.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25643641/oklahoma-sooners-defense-stunned-alabama-crimson-tide-fast-start (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25643641/oklahoma-sooners-defense-stunned-alabama-crimson-tide-fast-start)
If it wasn't for some uncharacteristic really stupid loss of focus unforced mistakes by the Tide offense they probably would have laid 65 points on the Sooners.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25643641/oklahoma-sooners-defense-stunned-alabama-crimson-tide-fast-start (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25643641/oklahoma-sooners-defense-stunned-alabama-crimson-tide-fast-start)
If it wasn't for some uncharacteristic really stupid loss of focus unforced mistakes by the Tide offense they probably would have laid 65 points on the Sooners.
I thought Nick was going to stroke out as the 1st half ended.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25643641/oklahoma-sooners-defense-stunned-alabama-crimson-tide-fast-start (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25643641/oklahoma-sooners-defense-stunned-alabama-crimson-tide-fast-start)
If it wasn't for some uncharacteristic really stupid loss of focus unforced mistakes by the Tide offense they probably would have laid 65 points on the Sooners.
I thought Nick was going to stroke out as the 1st half ended.
LOL
Me too with all the dumb ass mistakes they were making.
The guy that committed the cheap shot personal foul penalty on the fair catch kickoff and just walked by Saban seemingly nonchalantly was funny. You could see Nicky wanted to chase the guy down but thought better of it.
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I didn't watch the game that closely (had the Celts on) but I was a little surprised with the chippiness/loss of composure/dumb penalties that Bama committed.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Other than Alabama last year--how many 3 and 4 seeds have won?
How.soon we forget. OSU was a 4 in year one. Oregon was the 3.
As wisdom loveth correction I should correct myself. One loss Oregon was the two seed over unbeaten Florida State. The 39 point smackdown remains by far the worst beating in the NCAA playoffs.
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Mark Richt "retires" from the U.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
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At issue in college football is just how teams are getting such an edge. Is Bama guilty of something ?
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Futher evidence that College Football needs New Year’s Day to maximize TVRatings.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/college-football-playoff-semifinal-tv-ratings-2017-games-new-years-163742033.html
(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/college-football-playoff-semifinal-tv-ratings-2017-games-new-years-163742033.html)
Fewer viewers this year because the games were played on December 29. (The Rose Bowl and the Sugar Bowl are ALWAYS played on New Years by contract meaning the semis only get NYD once every three years)
Next year the semis will be held on December 28.
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At issue in college football is just how teams are getting such an edge. Is Bama guilty of something ?
Yeah.
Being good.
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At issue in college football is just how teams are getting such an edge. Is Bama guilty of something ?
Yes, they are guilty of recruiting better than anyone else. After that if your are talking about recruiting violations none have come up in the last decade.
And I would think every supposed 'reporter' out there is looking under every rock. Either there is no violations or Nicky is damned good at hiding them.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Other than Alabama last year--how many 3 and 4 seeds have won?
How.soon we forget. OSU was a 4 in year one. Oregon was the 3.
Oregon didn't win the championship. I guess I did forget about OSU. Have to look at that year more closely I guess to distill my thesis... :)
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Fewer viewers this year because the games were played on December 29.
At least part of it was probably that the games were not very good
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Mark Richt "retires" from the U.
And Lane Kiffin wearing a UM hat last night...
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If Cristobal quits to accept the Miami position, there will be mass Seppuku in Eugene
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
Apples and Oranges.
Georgia, as the Committee took great pains to explain, was left out because it did not win a championship. The fact that Oklahoma and Georgia were considered practically equal in performance forced the Committee to use CGs as the tiebreaker.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
Apples and Oranges.
Georgia, as the Committee took great pains to explain, was left out because it did not win a championship. The fact that Oklahoma and Georgia were considered practically equal in performance forced the Committee to use CGs as the tiebreaker.
Not apples and oranges in the context of the question.
Now, as to your recent comment above concerning Oklahoma, Georgia and the CG guideline.
That could lead one to realize that the committee's rules may not be entirely conducive to their stated goal of putting the four best teams in the lineup.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Other than Alabama last year--how many 3 and 4 seeds have won?
How.soon we forget. OSU was a 4 in year one. Oregon was the 3.
Oregon didn't win the championship. I guess I did forget about OSU. Have to look at that year more closely I guess to distill my thesis... :)
I thought you meant win in the 1st.round.
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At issue in college football is just how teams are getting such an edge. Is Bama guilty of something ?
Coach sold soul to devil.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
Apples and Oranges.
Georgia, as the Committee took great pains to explain, was left out because it did not win a championship. The fact that Oklahoma and Georgia were considered practically equal in performance forced the Committee to use CGs as the tiebreaker.
Not apples and oranges in the context of the question.
Whiskeypriest’s question was a response to my statement that the playoff should be limited to four teams. I restated that position. If you saw another context feel free to change the subject.
Now, as to your recent comment above concerning Oklahoma, Georgia and the CG guideline.
That could lead one to realize that the committee's rules may not be entirely conducive to their stated goal of putting the four best teams in the lineup.
They haven’t failed yet.
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At issue in college football is just how teams are getting such an edge. Is Bama guilty of something ?
Coach sold soul to devil.
Then Dabo did too since he is emulating Nick any way he can. He dumped a veteran QB for a freshman. His staff is loaded with coaches rooted in Alabama training, and he just recruited the number one HS quarterback in the state of Alabama. One other area he is working on is lobbying players to foregoi the NFL draft as sophomores and juniors. Only 38 per cent of Alabama players leave early(tOSU figure, for comparison is 59). We’ll see if Dabo can compete in keeping players.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
Apples and Oranges.
Georgia, as the Committee took great pains to explain, was left out because it did not win a championship. The fact that Oklahoma and Georgia were considered practically equal in performance forced the Committee to use CGs as the tiebreaker.
Not apples and oranges in the context of the question.
Now, as to your recent comment above concerning Oklahoma, Georgia and the CG guideline.
That could lead one to realize that the committee's rules may not be entirely conducive to their stated goal of putting the four best teams in the lineup.
I don't think there is a problem with the rules. The committee does a.great job with the information availae.to them. Human perception is not something you can fix with rules.
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At issue in college football is just how teams are getting such an edge. Is Bama guilty of something ?
Coach sold soul to devil.
Then Dabo did too since he is emulating Nick any way he can. He dumped a veteran QB for a freshman. His staff is loaded with coaches rooted in Alabama training, and he just recruited the number one HS quarterback in the state of Alabama. One other area he is working on is lobbying players to foregoi the NFL draft as sophomores and juniors. Only 38 per cent of Alabama players leave early(tOSU figure, for comparison is 59). We’ll see if Dabo can compete in keeping players.
ClemSIN cheats by pumping up their players.with PEDs. So far, only 3.have been caught but SWINEy is.dirty into it.
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I suppose it's possible that Dabo has sold his soul to the Devil, but I don't think Saban has. Saban is the devil incarnate.
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Well, the fake butt-cut horns on his otherwise male pattern baldness head are a dead giveaway that he possesses the power of darkness.
His hair is emblematic of not a single known medical procedure, hair fix, wig district innovation, or plug and play procedure known in the material world.
But if some tobacco drooling good old boy told me that was just a “Tuscaloosa Elmer’s son...” I would stand to be fucking corrected wouldn’t I??
Dabo is pure as the driven snow, cherchez le C.H.U.D. motherfuckers...
And Sa(b?)(a?)n is beneath reproach.
As far as CLEMs ALA connection to ALA but not the underworld, I have no comment.
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As far as CLEMs ALA connection to ALA but not the underworld, I have no comment.
That Dabo would use Saban and his program as a model to improve Clemson is pretty darn smart.
And it seems to be working.
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No, it has nothing to do with Little Nicky...
Frank Howard went to ALA
Danny played/coached at ALA
Dabo played/coached at ALA
Gene Stallings is his guy.
The connection is strange but it’s not what you think it is...
CLEM recruits itself, go to a game if you have never been...
Real nice day to be had...
Trying to match statistics with success parallels is a logical fallacy...
If you keep people, yes, you succeed.
We don’t have rocket science at CLEM, but that ain’t it...
Dabo doesn’t have time to study Nick Sat@n, fuck, they got the job at the same time...
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
Apples and Oranges.
Georgia, as the Committee took great pains to explain, was left out because it did not win a championship. The fact that Oklahoma and Georgia were considered practically equal in performance forced the Committee to use CGs as the tiebreaker.
Not apples and oranges in the context of the question.
Whiskeypriest’s question was a response to my statement that the playoff should be limited to four teams. I restated that position. If you saw another context feel free to change the subject.
Now, as to your recent comment above concerning Oklahoma, Georgia and the CG guideline.
That could lead one to realize that the committee's rules may not be entirely conducive to their stated goal of putting the four best teams in the lineup.
They haven’t failed yet.
If that's your opinion you are certainly welcome to it. If you think Georgia couldn't of given Clemson a better game then in my opinion you're off your nut.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
Apples and Oranges.
Georgia, as the Committee took great pains to explain, was left out because it did not win a championship. The fact that Oklahoma and Georgia were considered practically equal in performance forced the Committee to use CGs as the tiebreaker.
Not apples and oranges in the context of the question.
Whiskeypriest’s question was a response to my statement that the playoff should be limited to four teams. I restated that position. If you saw another context feel free to change the subject.
Now, as to your recent comment above concerning Oklahoma, Georgia and the CG guideline.
That could lead one to realize that the committee's rules may not be entirely conducive to their stated goal of putting the four best teams in the lineup.
They haven’t failed yet.
If that's your opinion you are certainly welcome to it. If you think Georgia couldn't of given Clemson a better game then in my opinion you're off your nut.
That was not the question I was asked.
But if you ask it your way my answer is it is irrelevant.
Moreover it is pointless since Georgia would have been seeded fourth and played Alabama.
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At issue in college football is just how teams are getting such an edge. Is Bama guilty of something ?
Coach sold soul to devil.
Then Dabo did too since he is emulating Nick any way he can. He dumped a veteran QB for a freshman. His staff is loaded with coaches rooted in Alabama training, and he just recruited the number one HS quarterback in the state of Alabama. One other area he is working on is lobbying players to foregoi the NFL draft as sophomores and juniors. Only 38 per cent of Alabama players leave early(tOSU figure, for comparison is 59). We’ll see if Dabo can compete in keeping players.
Not all of Dado's guys are of the four and five star brand like most of Saban's. He does a great job of 'picking' talent. Anchrum for example was an undersized underweight 3 star from Ga. Falcinelli was also just a three star out of Md. Joeseph a 3 star out of SC. The point being that Dabo and Co recognizes talent that others may otherwise miss.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
Apples and Oranges.
Georgia, as the Committee took great pains to explain, was left out because it did not win a championship. The fact that Oklahoma and Georgia were considered practically equal in performance forced the Committee to use CGs as the tiebreaker.
Not apples and oranges in the context of the question.
Now, as to your recent comment above concerning Oklahoma, Georgia and the CG guideline.
That could lead one to realize that the committee's rules may not be entirely conducive to their stated goal of putting the four best teams in the lineup.
I don't think there is a problem with the rules. The committee does a.great job with the information availae.to them. Human perception is not something you can fix with rules.
I think they are doing a decent job too. We just disagree with the rules thing.
IMO if the stated goal is to get the four best teams then the CG thing seems abortive to that purpose.
Not that it applies in this instance anyways. Because it was undefeated ND that was the somewhat weak link here. They didn't have the offense to hang with Clemson or Alabama. Or probably Georgia either for that matter.
In years gone by you've mentioned the term paper tiger. And I think that applies to ND in this instance.
And no offense to my bro JB, but if the counterproductive GC rule was eliminated, IMHO if Clemson had played Georgia we might, MIGHT I say, be looking at an all SEC final. Then again Clemson may have won that game anyways. They're a great team.
But I can state will fairly strong firmness and feel you would be inclined to agree that the score would have been nowhere near the points margin that the Clem/ND game was.
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Well, I think tOSU or Georgia could have stood up to ClemSIN better than Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie. But a playoff without an unbeaten major team like OLotPT would lack any claim of legitimacy. For better or worse, playoff teams need to be judged by what the do during the regular season. So, don't play Purdue like you dropped the "State" from your name. Don't hack up a 4th quarter lead against Alabama.
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True interesting fact: 7 of 9 first round games have been decided by 17 points or more. I think it will soon be 8 of 10.
Another reason we don’t need more than 4 teams.
So you do not think the performance of OLotPT does not make a decent argument for including Georgia?
Of course not.
I seem to remember you mentioning something about the Big getting both Michigan and OSU in earlier this year. Have you forgotten that?
There was a chance of that. But the teams aren’t picked until all the games are played.
Regardless, that speculation has no connection to the expansion talk regarding the number
of playoff teams.
Wrong. It has everything to do with it. Your lack of vision again.
My speculation on 2 conference teams making the playoff was limited to a field of four.
Not in the context of Steve's question. If I understood it correctly.
Apples and Oranges.
Georgia, as the Committee took great pains to explain, was left out because it did not win a championship. The fact that Oklahoma and Georgia were considered practically equal in performance forced the Committee to use CGs as the tiebreaker.
Not apples and oranges in the context of the question.
Whiskeypriest’s question was a response to my statement that the playoff should be limited to four teams. I restated that position. If you saw another context feel free to change the subject.
Now, as to your recent comment above concerning Oklahoma, Georgia and the CG guideline.
That could lead one to realize that the committee's rules may not be entirely conducive to their stated goal of putting the four best teams in the lineup.
They haven’t failed yet.
If that's your opinion you are certainly welcome to it. If you think Georgia couldn't of given Clemson a better game then in my opinion you're off your nut.
That was not the question I was asked.
But if you ask it your way my answer is it is irrelevant.
Moreover it is pointless since Georgia would have been seeded fourth and played Alabama.
It was the question, you just aren't thinking outside of the box enough to have understood it. That's never been your strongpoint.(Actually I'm not sure if you have a strongpoint. Oh wait you are the king of TV ratings. My bad)
But when you actually are correct I'll give you that and acknowledge it. Georgia would have been seeded fourth. Only due to a flawed ranking system that IMO still needs tweeking.
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Well, I think tOSU or Georgia could have stood up to ClemSIN better than Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie. But a playoff without an unbeaten major team like OLotPT would lack any claim of legitimacy. For better or worse, playoff teams need to be judged by what the do during the regular season. So, don't play Purdue like you dropped the "State" from your name. Don't hack up a 4th quarter lead against Alabama.
Which is why the question you asked James needs IMO to be addressed by the powers that be. Expansion of the playoff. Some are for it and some against. I'd love to know how many of those Committee voters thought, if I do this thing right we leave out ND. Especially after the buttkicking the Wolverines received at the hands of the Buckeyes.
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Well enough of that schlit and on to the CG.
As I watched the Oklahoma/Bama game play out I couldn't help but notice the lack of comparative speed with the Bama defense as a whole and the speed of Murray. That's not saying the Alabama guys are slow, we know they aren't. Just compared to Murray. And I didn't see the usual Tide up front pressure as you could visibly see them making sure(or at least trying to make sure) that he didn't break containment. So the question is will they be as worried about the Clemson QB?
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I’m not going to talk bad about any other team,”. Who knows if they were the four best teams, but they were ranked that way. They played hard and played tough competition. I do think this team could compete and we’d put out a good showing. You never know what would’ve happened, but it’s out of our hands.”
Guess what team that player is from?
At least he has the good sense not to speculate on a game that could not happen.
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I’m not going to talk bad about any other team,”. Who knows if they were the four best teams, but they were ranked that way. They played hard and played tough competition. I do think this team could compete and we’d put out a good showing. You never know what would’ve happened, but it’s out of our hands.”
Guess what team that player is from?
At least he has the good sense not to speculate on a game that could not happen.
So bully for him. It has zilch to do with us.
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I’m not going to talk bad about any other team,”. Who knows if they were the four best teams, but they were ranked that way. They played hard and played tough competition. I do think this team could compete and we’d put out a good showing. You never know what would’ve happened, but it’s out of our hands.”
Guess what team that player is from?
At least he has the good sense not to speculate on a game that could not happen.
So bully for him. It has zilch to do with us.
No guesses?
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I’m not going to talk bad about any other team,”. Who knows if they were the four best teams, but they were ranked that way. They played hard and played tough competition. I do think this team could compete and we’d put out a good showing. You never know what would’ve happened, but it’s out of our hands.”
Guess what team that player is from?
At least he has the good sense not to speculate on a game that could not happen.
So bully for him. It has zilch to do with us.
No guesses?
Brian Lewerke.
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Steve Alford?
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Sounds like UCF.
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Sounds like UCF.
Bingo!
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Well there is no question at all that having a small group of people decide who the four "best" teams are is a flawed system. To have language that suggests that "deserving" has nothing to do with it is doubling down on the flaw.
Whether someone "thinks" Georgia is a better team than Notre Dame or not really should not matter. Georgia lost two games and Notre Dame lost none. UCF has a better argument than Georgia IMO. and again...I'm not suggesting that UCF would have put up a better game than Notre Dame, but they were the only other undefeated team. That was the original purpose of going to any form of a playoff -- to put an end to the "I deserved it more than you did" argument.
Georgia lost two games. They beat Notre Dame by one point last year and arguably they had a better team last year and Notre Dame had a worse team last year. Georgia did not deserve to be there...regardless of whether they might have been a better "match up" for Alabama. We literally just saw that game.
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Fickell's Bearcats pull it out. Good enjoyable game.
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Well there is no question at all that having a small group of people decide who the four "best" teams are is a flawed system. To have language that suggests that "deserving" has nothing to do with it is doubling down on the flaw.
Whether someone "thinks" Georgia is a better team than Notre Dame or not really should not matter. Georgia lost two games and Notre Dame lost none. UCF has a better argument than Georgia IMO. and again...I'm not suggesting that UCF would have put up a better game than Notre Dame, but they were the only other undefeated team. That was the original purpose of going to any form of a playoff -- to put an end to the "I deserved it more than you did" argument.
Georgia lost two games. They beat Notre Dame by one point last year and arguably they had a better team last year and Notre Dame had a worse team last year. Georgia did not deserve to be there...regardless of whether they might have been a better "match up" for Alabama. We literally just saw that game.
Okay, good argument.
If someone tell me to go out and pick the four best teams I'm personally not putting ND in there. Maybe not even putting them in there if they said the six best teams. But if someone said to me put the four best teams in there that 'deserve' to be in there I might have to think twice.
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Well there is no question at all that having a small group of people decide who the four "best" teams are is a flawed system. To have language that suggests that "deserving" has nothing to do with it is doubling down on the flaw.
Any and all playoff systems are flawed. College football has no choice to but to devise a system based on voting. Always has,always will.
Whether someone "thinks" Georgia is a better team than Notre Dame or not really should not matter. Georgia lost two games and Notre Dame lost none. UCF has a better argument than Georgia IMO. and again...I'm not suggesting that UCF would have put up a better game than Notre Dame, but they were the only other undefeated team. That was the original purpose of going to any form of a playoff -- to put an end to the "I deserved it more than you did" argument.
Georgia lost two games. They beat Notre Dame by one point last year and arguably they had a better team last year and Notre Dame had a worse team last year. Georgia did not deserve to be there...regardless of whether they might have been a better "match up" for Alabama. We literally just saw that game.
I prefer “ Georgia did not qualify” which was explained in detail by the Committee.
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Only thing matters now is should Giants take the Okl. kid.
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Ah well.
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Worst call since Mrs. Grady told the village idiot, "You paid your dollar, it's ok if you don't pull out."
Calling my mother a whore? Reaching to start the new year on a new LOW.
You have 10 seconds to retract .....
Read you own posts you vile pile of wasted sperm.
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Besides it is not the new year yet you temporally challenged turd.
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Besides it is not the new year yet you temporally challenged turd.
I'm in Istanbul, your dipshit, it is 2019!
Liar.
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DJ went all the way to Turkey to argue college football at 3 am in the morning?
Talk about fractured priorities.
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Constantinople
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Constantinople
If you have a date in Constantinople she'll be waiting in Istanbul.
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Pat Fitzgerald to be interviewed by the Packers.
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RisqueNut is upset that his Pansies lost to the PAC12's Ducky Darlings from Oregon.
TFB. ;D
No I am upset I have to deal with a vile syphlitic trolling asshole and no ignore button.
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Kinder, gentler died with HW. RIP.
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C.H.U.D. kicks bucket in Rose Bowl.
[chugs glass of metameucil to get thru the opioid back up]
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Not me, I don’t like opioids, C.H.U.D.
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Sheeeit...I liked Debra Winger
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Well, I can see it got nutty in here last night. LOL
The more important thing is I'm losing more ground to Stevo in the gang of three pool.
Kudos to Northwestern. I had a fork stuck in them at halftime and they came out in the second half an put the boot to the Utes. That's cool I like the Wildcats underrated coach and like the folks in Moscow I found myself pulling for the Rockylike Wildcats. Fitzy! Fitzy! Fitzy!
Note to Mizzou Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator: You are dumber than dogshit.
Note to NFL teams: If N.C. State's Finley is starting QB material he sure didn't show it last night. 19 of 32 with 139 yards to show for it. Along with a couple of INTS as the Aggies neutered the Wolfpack.
Michigan State: That good Spartan defense didn't deserve to go out like that. Not talking about the missed chance end of game FG. But rather the whole pathetic offensive effort for the entire game. The Ducks' defense, not exactly a powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination, gave up an average of 27 PPG. Hell even pathetic Bowling Green managed 24 points against the Ducks and Bowling Green's only win outside of the two MAC sad sacks was when they beat Eastern Kentucky and that was only by a TD. Frak I didn't even know there was an Eastern Kentucky. Granted it was a windy evening out there in Santa Clara for the Redbox Bowl(a video I won't feel the urge to rent anytime soon)but 6 points? If Stevo isn't in some barren Arizona drywash with his tantō sticking out of him, my condolences old sock.
Stanford/Pitt, I missed that one. Which is kinda like saying I missed my berth on the Titanic.
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Sometimes I guess it's just about the money.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25659219/houston-cougars-finalizing-deal-dana-holgorsen-west-virginia-mountaineers
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Well, I can see it got nutty in here last night. LOL
The more important thing is I'm losing more ground to Stevo in the gang of three pool.
Kudos to Northwestern. I had a fork stuck in them at halftime and they came out in the second half an put the boot to the Utes. That's cool I like the Wildcats underrated coach and like the folks in Moscow I found myself pulling for the Rockylike Wildcats. Fitzy! Fitzy! Fitzy!
Note to Mizzou Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator: You are dumber than dogshit.
Note to NFL teams: If N.C. State's Finley is starting QB material he sure didn't show it last night. 19 of 32 with 139 yards to show for it. Along with a couple of INTS as the Aggies neutered the Wolfpack.
Michigan State: That good Spartan defense didn't deserve to go out like that. Not talking about the missed chance end of game FG. But rather the whole pathetic offensive effort for the entire game. The Ducks' defense, not exactly a powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination, gave up an average of 27 PPG. Hell even pathetic Bowling Green managed 24 points against the Ducks and Bowling Green's only win outside of the two MAC sad sacks was when they beat Eastern Kentucky and that was only by a TD. Frak I didn't even know there was an Eastern Kentucky. Granted it was a windy evening out there in Santa Clara for the Redbox Bowl(a video I won't feel the urge to rent anytime soon)but 6 points? If Stevo isn't in some barren Arizona drywash with his tantō sticking out of him, my condolences old sock.
Stanford/Pitt, I missed that one. Which is kinda like saying I missed my berth on the Titanic.
Lacked the depth at WR to make up for injuries, Lewerke took about three steps backwards, and not strong enough up front to run the ball without the fear of a passing game. Reminds me a little of the post-Cousins year. Great D, no offensive spark even with Leveon Bell.
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UCF eats LSU's defense like it wasn't there.
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Looked like a legal hit to me. Suck it up.
Should have been a taunting flag after the play though.
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Speaking of a pathetic offense...
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Our QB is stinking up the joint.
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I think Iowa puts me over the top.
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Our QB is stinking up the joint.
Your team tried a fake punt against Kentucky?
Your QB is playing on a bad leg in a meaningless game, methinks your Headcoach is a selfish Ass!
I'm not too happy with him in my valley right now I can at least say that.
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I think Iowa puts me over the top.
Believe you are right. Congrats dude helluva good job of picking.
You should/could end up with the best points total, I think, since we've been doing this thing.
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I think Iowa puts me over the top.
Believe you are right. Congrats dude helluva good job of picking.
You should/could end up with the best points total, I think, since we've been doing this thing.
Yeah, I got lucky on the games I knew basically 0 about.
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Our QB is stinking up the joint.
Your team tried a fake punt against Kentucky?
Your QB is playing on a bad leg in a meaningless game, methinks your Headcoach is a selfish Ass!
I'm not too happy with him in my valley right now I can at least say that.
Franklin seems to have issues in big games. Maybe trojan can straighten him out when he jumps to SC after next year.
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Happy New Years guys
all the best for 2019
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McSorley and Snell(yes) are what Bowl Games are all about.
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No matter what happens in the Rose Bowl Urban Meyer developed quite a nice QB for LSU.
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Well, it's official UCF can hang with the big boys.
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Happy New Years guys
all the best for 2019
Same to you Rich. :-)
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Buckeyes acting like they're serious about this game. ;-)
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The Purdue game becomes more inexplicable.
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The Purdue game becomes more inexplicable.
Eh, let me try to explain it better:
“tosu got sh!thammered by Purdue...”
Like, uh, sh!thammered, same explanation as before.
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Brilliant analysis.
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Like when CLEM would lose to WAKE when they would be sorta good, except Purdue sucks.
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Brilliant analysis.
How is it hard to explain??
Because they beat WASH and got sh!thammered by Purdue.
Your “inexplicable” is oxy moronic, explained by the fact that tosu is not a good team.
More inexplicable?? I can spell it out for you.
S
C
O
R
E
B
O
A
R
D
I.e., scorefu<king board.
Numbers are different from letters, make sense?
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Your schtick has gotten old. Feel free to call me a racist again, though.
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I must have done that inexplicably...
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It's pretty explicable.
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Getting chippy in here.
This one is pretty much over I think.
On to the Dawgs n Horns
Which is not to be confused with HornDogs.
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I looked back, you said a Herm Edwards “coached” team, I read into that, cap vouched for you, I backed off that comment. Buried Hatchet.
Or not.
Pick.
But to say a sh!thammering is more inexplicable (?) after a rose bowl squeaker or close game is utter and complete bullish!t.
You’re off to a bad year with that Purdue game still stuck in your mouth.
You can’t explain it at all, or “more”...”at all.”
Facts, like scoreboards, are stubborn things.
The better team winning in football by a bunch of fucking points is very “explicable”:
C.H.U.D. Is not a leader/motivator of men on a consistent basis anymore, and now hired to teach a class in it in the Orwell facility at tosu...
Why not let Roy Williams retire and teach Africa Studies before getting wrecked by the NCAA?? Stranger things have happened.
This year.
Almost every year.
In fucking tosu.
Inexplicable is how you can’t choke on or swallow the crow you should eat.
Mark Richt is available.
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More brilliant analysis!
Why should I eat crow? I don't root for Ohio State.
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Because you don’t know what the definition of oxymoron is??
I don’t care.
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I know the definition of "oxymoron" and "moron" as well.
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Wait, why is UGGA not in the title game??
They’re only down 10 to Texas??
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One is in the mirror.
By 2020 you should solve the riddle.
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Brilliant!
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Oh, happy New Year!!
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Did Notre Dame deserve a playoff spot?
Yes
they benefitted from an easy schedule
Sagarin has their SOS higher than Clemson
Since The Irish are associate members of the ACC playing 5 of their games against ACC opponents, they should have played Clemson in the ACC championship game,
I don't mind that argument. As long as there is a path to the playoff then there can't be a lot of whining if your team did not win. UCF was not afforded that chance last year.
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Constantinople
It's nobody's business, but the Turks!
Damn...you beat me to it. That's a great song
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Herman is a very impressive coach notwithstanding managing to lose to Maryland two years in a row.
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...for a black guy?!?
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Well, it's official UCF can hang with the big boys.
If the big boys are missing some of their biggest and best boys.✌️
UCF was missing their starting QB
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What a great day of College Football!
Great Bowl games!
Upsets!
All of them meaningless!
LOL!
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Georgia should maybe have worried less about whether Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie deserved.a playoff spot and more about Texas.
We could replace jbot with a computer program that rando.randomly posts "I hate Ohio State" and it would have as little content as one of his posts, and be funnier than his regular posts. I look forward.to watching him invent some reason to hate Day. On the other hand I look forward much less to him boring us by repeating it beyond ad nauseam in ersatz drunk southern horse shit.
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Wait, why is UGGA not in the title game??
They’re only down 10 to Texas??
Well looks like I seem to be way wrong JB. Eh, I can admit that.
Been wrong before and I'm sure I'll be wrong again.
Georgia's QB looked like shit and whoever #6 receiver for the Dawgs looked a little turdish too. I was yelling at my TV like an insane person to Smart. Pull your QB he ain't in this game and put in your kid. Kirby is trying to emulate Nicky, but that's the difference between him and the Nickster. Saban knows when it's time to pull a guy that isn't doing his job.
Texas was totally not respecting the Dawgs QB to run. He couldn't. Turns out the twit couldn't throw any better either. I can't swear to it but the guy had a scared look on his face and especially in his eyes every time I saw him on the sidelines with his helmet off.
Kudos to the Longhorns and the Texas head coach who came into the game like UCF did last year against Auburn, amped up and ready to rock on both sides of the ball.
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...for a black guy?!?
Wrong Herman dude.
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The good and bad of Urban Meyer:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25664703/urban-meyer-rose-bowl-final-game-leaves-complicated-legacy
(http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25664703/urban-meyer-rose-bowl-final-game-leaves-complicated-legacy)
PASADENA, Calif. -- With 40 seconds left in the 105th Rose Bowl, Urban Meyer emphatically pumped his fists in the air one last time as Ohio State's head coach with a victorious 28-23 score beaming on the north end zone scoreboard.
As the clock ticked down to zero and Washington's late comeback officially ended, senior receivers Parris Campbell and Terry McLaurin walked Meyer arm-and-arm toward midfield before a Gatorade bath greeted the smiling Meyer for one last frozen feeling.
From there, it was a victory lap that didn't quite feel long enough for a coach who announced in early December that he was retiring from coaching after 33 years.
Meyer, an Ohio native who coached in his first Rose Bowl on Tuesday, nonchalantly accepted the Rose Bowl trophy, and without enough time to truly savor the moment, quickly passed it to his players standing behind him.
Meyer would eventually thank Buckeye Nation and praise his players and their season before walking to Ohio State's band, his wife Shelley's arm wrapped around his waist with every step, for one last "O-H" and a salute from the top of the drum major's ladder. ...
... It should be a storybook ending.
But Meyer's departure is more complicated than that.
On paper, he will go down as one of college football's greatest coaches. In 17 years as a head coach, Meyer went 187-32 with three national championships (two at Florida and one at Ohio State).
He has been to six straight New Year's Six bowls, going 4-2 in those and capturing that national title with the Buckeyes in 2014.
But away from the field, Meyer has a handful of unmistakable scars on his résumé.
There are the 30-plus player arrests at Florida and the fact that he admittedly left the program "broken" after stepping away for the second time in a year after the 2010 season.
At Ohio State, his players stayed out of trouble, but Meyer's last season has a permanent black mark because of his mismanagement of disgraced former assistant Zach Smith
Meyer was put on paid administrative leave in August while the school investigated Courtney Smith's claims that several people close to Meyer knew of a 2015 allegation of domestic violence against her ex-husband, Zach, whom Meyer had fired in July.
Ohio State's investigation found that Meyer and athletic director Gene Smith "failed to take sufficient management action relating to Zach Smith's misconduct" and suspended him for three games.
So as scarlet-and-gray confetti covered Meyer while thousands of Buckeyes fans chanted his name Tuesday night, the moment felt somewhat tainted. It was a celebration for players and fans to enjoy. There were so many extraordinary coaching accomplishments to celebrate, but Meyer's questionable decisions away from the field are an undeniable part of his legacy.
Meyer wasn't interested in talking legacy this week. And as he left the Rose Bowl to the cheers of adoring fans, it's clear what his legacy will be to the Buckeyes faithful.
But outside of Columbus, his legacy remains complicated, a reminder that winning doesn't -- or shouldn't -- solve everything.
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It’s a pretty safe bet that any talk of expanding the playoff field has headed to the back burner. Or at least until Nick and Dabo retire.
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Top ten based on post-regular seasonplay.
1Alabama (2 Championships so far)
2.Clemson ( 2 Championships so far)
3.Ohio State ( 2)
4.Oklahoma(1)
5.Notre Dame (0)
6.LSU (1)
7.Georgia (0)
8.Wash.St (1)
9. Texas (1)
10.Florida(1)
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It’s a pretty safe bet that any talk of expanding the playoff field has headed to the back burner. Or at least until Nick and Dabo retire.
The worst mistake people make is assuming next year is this year.
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Georgia should maybe have worried less about whether Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie deserved.a playoff spot and more about Texas.
Funny how that stuff works sometimes. It's a little bit like making an I told you so post when a team is getting blown out at halftime...only to have the other team come roaring back to win in the second half. Sometimes...you just need to have a little patience before you open up your pie hole.
One of the authors I have been reading lately had one of his characters say several times..."I rarely get in trouble by not saying something."
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It’s a pretty safe bet that any talk of expanding the playoff field has headed to the back burner. Or at least until Nick and Dabo retire.
The worst mistake people make is assuming next year is this year.
Not my point. Based on five years of CFP history the system is working perfectly. That may not sit well politically with all conferences but there is no logical argument against a process that has done what it was set up to do: seed the four best teams. Not that it has been hard to do. Only two teams have been seeded number one: Alabama and Clemson. Three times they were seeded one AND two. And they have three of the four championships.
At the same time the drop-off between the seeded teams and the also-rans is steep. Only one 5 ranked team has won a post season Bowl (OSU last year).
Before talking expansion discussions on uniform number of conference games among the power five leagues and the role of League Championship games need to to be held. Right now expansion won’t improve competition.
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Georgia should maybe have worried less about whether Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie deserved.a playoff spot and more about Texas.
One of the authors I have been reading lately had one of his characters say several times..."I rarely get in trouble by not saying something."
How appropriate that my dissenting comment on that quote comes from the very walls of Troy itself.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=achille%2c+nobody+will+remember+your+name&view=detail&mid=6EB5B19F2F7C9EFFD5976EB5B19F2F7C9EFFD597&FORM=VIRE (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=achille%2c+nobody+will+remember+your+name&view=detail&mid=6EB5B19F2F7C9EFFD5976EB5B19F2F7C9EFFD597&FORM=VIRE)
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" Based on five years of CFP history the system is working perfectly".
Quite a statement from one who swore over dead bodies there would never be a playoff system in college D1 football.
Only Ohio State has proven me wrong. Oh the irony!
LOL!
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" Based on five years of CFP history the system is working perfectly".
Quite a statement from one who swore over dead bodies there would never be a playoff system in college D1 football.
Only Ohio State has proven me wrong. Oh the irony!
LOL!
No, you were just plain wrong. Simple as that. No Ohio State no out for you. No irony BS.
You
were
just
WRONG.
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" Based on five years of CFP history the system is working perfectly".
Quite a statement from one who swore over dead bodies there would never be a playoff system in college D1 football.
Only Ohio State has proven me wrong. Oh the irony!
LOL!
Congrats, Jim, it takes a Jumbo-Man to admit he was wrong. Even if it took 5 years for you to realize it.
Are you being held against your will in Turkey?
Whatever happens don’t meet with the Saudis!
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High TV ratings for the Rose and Sugar Bowls in non-playoff year.
Playoff expansion talk growing weaker.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/
(https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/)
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High TV ratings for the Rose and Sugar Bowls in non-playoff year.
Playoff expansion talk growing weaker.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/
(https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/)
Personally I'm okay with the four team playoff. It allows me to speculate on and opine the picks. But just because one, or fifty, articles say expansion is dead in the water, it doesn't mean it is gospel.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before)
Shoulda played the game in Atlanta.
Also watch the video though.
The top seven defenses since 2005 are either Bama or Clemson. Who says defense doesn't win championships? ;-) 2011, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18.
And I think Fla. St. may have had the Top defense in 2013.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before)
Shoulda played the game in Atlanta.
Should have brought that up in 2015 when Santa Clara was selected.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before)
Shoulda played the game in Atlanta.
Should have brought that up in 2015 when Santa Clara was selected.
As should you.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before)
Shoulda played the game in Atlanta.
Article misses the real reason for the lack of enthusiasm for the game.8n Santa Clara: lingering burn out from the pageantry and.excitement of the Bird Box Bowl.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before)
Shoulda played the game in Atlanta.
Should have brought that up in 2015 when Santa Clara was selected.
As should you.
I did.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before)
Shoulda played the game in Atlanta.
Article misses the real reason for the lack of enthusiasm for the game.8n Santa Clara: lingering burn out from the pageantry and.excitement of the Bird Box Bowl.
Of course, now it all makes sense.
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25674974/tickets-cfp-title-game-less-expensive-before)
Shoulda played the game in Atlanta.
Should have brought that up in 2015 when Santa Clara was selected.
As should you.
I did.
Prove it.
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The idea that the people who decide on the championship game sites make the.decision about 6 years in advance.and have no clue what teams will be in the game seems to have floated past the reach of the damaged syphlitic brains of some people, as well as some of us with functioning brains. They are playing the game in different sections of the country over the next five years, including Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis and some LAish area that doesn't even have a stadium right now. Obviously, good weather or an indoor stadium are restrictions, though watching Alabama or Clemson play in First Energy Stadium in January would please me no end. But having the game in different parts of the country is a goal.
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High TV ratings for the Rose and Sugar Bowls in non-playoff year.
Playoff expansion talk growing weaker.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/
(https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/)
Personally I'm okay with the four team playoff. It allows me to speculate on and opine the picks. But just because one, or fifty, articles say expansion is dead in the water, it doesn't mean it is gospel.
The poor-boy 5 would like the chance to dance, but they don't have the clout to purchase a new dress for the occasion. The PAC-12 is feeling isolated, but what can they expect tieing themselves to the Big Whatever for the NoseBowl.
I just wish the playoff committee was honest; for some reason I dislike educational organizations not being truthful. (Yes, Jim, the C in NCAA has something to do with colleges)
The number of "coaches" that the top schools can afford is not conducive to the myth of parity
In college athletics. (The other side is that the coaching fraternity is a family affair with nephews,
Brothers and in-laws having positions custom-made that skirt the NCAA limits)
[One new coaching position is uniform coordinator: they are responsible for ensuring that no uniform is worn twice in one season and to coordinate the uniforms with what they want the fans to wear for the game and which sections will alternate colors to please the TV people.
This position starts at $150,000]
The Big 10 I don't think is all that happy with the current configuration either, probably the Big 12 too. At least as far as the rules go. Rather than push for more teams the BIG 10, Big 12, and PAC might all three push for guaranteed berths for Conference Champions. They may not, but the possibility certainly exists.
And while the guy writing the article might be right that expansion is off the table for the moment.(He could be wrong too) I'm sure there will be some offseason jockeying going on that mat of may not manifest itself in some sort of rules tweeking. Or they may just all play Parcheesi and Mahjong and eat finger sandwiches.
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The idea that the people who decide on the championship game sites make the.decision about 6 years in advance.and have no clue what teams will be in the game seems to have floated past the reach of the damaged syphlitic brains of some people, as well as some of us with functioning brains. They are playing the game in different sections of the country over the next five years, including Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis and some LAish area that doesn't even have a stadium right now. Obviously, good weather or an indoor stadium are restrictions, though watching Alabama or Clemson play in First Energy Stadium in January would please me no end. But having the game in different parts of the country is a goal.
Sooner or later the logistics of playoff football were going to strain family budgets, both monetarily and time-wise. Currently a potential playoff bound team’s fan base has to balance travel and time
to three potential games, from Conference CG to the National CG. Which is another consideration in discussing additional playoff games. Already we have learned that scheduling playoff dates can have negative effects on TV ratings. The best times, 5pm and 8pm New Year’s Day, are only available once every three years. And now we see the possibility of empty seats when fans decide not to travel long distances more than once.
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High TV ratings for the Rose and Sugar Bowls in non-playoff year.
Playoff expansion talk growing weaker.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/
(https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/)
Personally I'm okay with the four team playoff. It allows me to speculate on and opine the picks. But just because one, or fifty, articles say expansion is dead in the water, it doesn't mean it is gospel.
The poor-boy 5 would like the chance to dance, but they don't have the clout to purchase a new dress for the occasion. The PAC-12 is feeling isolated, but what can they expect tieing themselves to the Big Whatever for the NoseBowl.
I just wish the playoff committee was honest; for some reason I dislike educational organizations not being truthful. (Yes, Jim, the C in NCAA has something to do with colleges)
The number of "coaches" that the top schools can afford is not conducive to the myth of parity
In college athletics. (The other side is that the coaching fraternity is a family affair with nephews,
Brothers and in-laws having positions custom-made that skirt the NCAA limits)
[One new coaching position is uniform coordinator: they are responsible for ensuring that no uniform is worn twice in one season and to coordinate the uniforms with what they want the fans to wear for the game and which sections will alternate colors to please the TV people.
This position starts at $150,000]
The Big 10 I don't think is all that happy with the current configuration either, probably the Big 12 too. At least as far as the rules go. Rather than push for more teams the BIG 10, Big 12, and PAC might all three push for guaranteed berths for Conference Champions. They may not, but the possibility certainly exists.
And while the guy writing the article might be right that expansion is off the table for the moment.(He could be wrong too) I'm sure there will be some offseason jockeying going on that mat of may not manifest itself in some sort of rules tweeking. Or they may just all play Parcheesi and Mahjong and eat finger sandwiches.
The Big Ten and the PAC 12 have absolutely no interest in anything that damages the Rose Bowl since both have next-to-guaranteed spots two of every three years. In the 104 years of the Rose Bowl the game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
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The Big 10 I don't think is all that happy with the current configuration either, probably the Big 12 too. At least as far as the rules go. Rather than push for more teams the BIG 10, Big 12, and PAC might all three push for guaranteed berths for Conference Champions. They may not, but the possibility certainly exists.
And while the guy writing the article might be right that expansion is off the table for the moment.(He could be wrong too) I'm sure there will be some offseason jockeying going on that mat of may not manifest itself in some sort of rules tweeking. Or they may just all play Parcheesi and Mahjong and eat finger sandwiches.
If I understand Delaney's comments, the Big Whatever wants a tweaking that has as much to do with the other four bowls as the playoffs. As in, why Florida with an 8 game conference schedule and two FCS games in one.of the four seeded bowls. Florida justified its selection, in the end, but the process issue remains. He supports the current system, even if one of his teams has been left out the last two years.
There is a guaranteed slot for conference champs in the 6 seeded bowls. And no way to guarantee slots in a 4.team playoff.
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High TV ratings for the Rose and Sugar Bowls in non-playoff year.
Playoff expansion talk growing weaker.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/
(https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/)
Personally I'm okay with the four team playoff. It allows me to speculate on and opine the picks. But just because one, or fifty, articles say expansion is dead in the water, it doesn't mean it is gospel.
The poor-boy 5 would like the chance to dance, but they don't have the clout to purchase a new dress for the occasion. The PAC-12 is feeling isolated, but what can they expect tieing themselves to the Big Whatever for the NoseBowl.
I just wish the playoff committee was honest; for some reason I dislike educational organizations not being truthful. (Yes, Jim, the C in NCAA has something to do with colleges)
The number of "coaches" that the top schools can afford is not conducive to the myth of parity
In college athletics. (The other side is that the coaching fraternity is a family affair with nephews,
Brothers and in-laws having positions custom-made that skirt the NCAA limits)
[One new coaching position is uniform coordinator: they are responsible for ensuring that no uniform is worn twice in one season and to coordinate the uniforms with what they want the fans to wear for the game and which sections will alternate colors to please the TV people.
This position starts at $150,000]
The Big 10 I don't think is all that happy with the current configuration either, probably the Big 12 too. At least as far as the rules go. Rather than push for more teams the BIG 10, Big 12, and PAC might all three push for guaranteed berths for Conference Champions. They may not, but the possibility certainly exists.
And while the guy writing the article might be right that expansion is off the table for the moment.(He could be wrong too) I'm sure there will be some offseason jockeying going on that mat of may not manifest itself in some sort of rules tweeking. Or they may just all play Parcheesi and Mahjong and eat finger sandwiches.
...In the 104 years of the Rose Bowl the game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system. ...
No, not necessarily.
But alarmists could surely beat that drum.
For the drumbeaters and worry warts look up the word 'configuration' and 'compromise'. That's how deals are struck.
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High TV ratings for the Rose and Sugar Bowls in non-playoff year.
Playoff expansion talk growing weaker.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/
(https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/)
Personally I'm okay with the four team playoff. It allows me to speculate on and opine the picks. But just because one, or fifty, articles say expansion is dead in the water, it doesn't mean it is gospel.
The poor-boy 5 would like the chance to dance, but they don't have the clout to purchase a new dress for the occasion. The PAC-12 is feeling isolated, but what can they expect tieing themselves to the Big Whatever for the NoseBowl.
I just wish the playoff committee was honest; for some reason I dislike educational organizations not being truthful. (Yes, Jim, the C in NCAA has something to do with colleges)
The number of "coaches" that the top schools can afford is not conducive to the myth of parity
In college athletics. (The other side is that the coaching fraternity is a family affair with nephews,
Brothers and in-laws having positions custom-made that skirt the NCAA limits)
[One new coaching position is uniform coordinator: they are responsible for ensuring that no uniform is worn twice in one season and to coordinate the uniforms with what they want the fans to wear for the game and which sections will alternate colors to please the TV people.
This position starts at $150,000]
The Big 10 I don't think is all that happy with the current configuration either, probably the Big 12 too. At least as far as the rules go. Rather than push for more teams the BIG 10, Big 12, and PAC might all three push for guaranteed berths for Conference Champions. They may not, but the possibility certainly exists.
And while the guy writing the article might be right that expansion is off the table for the moment.(He could be wrong too) I'm sure there will be some offseason jockeying going on that mat of may not manifest itself in some sort of rules tweeking. Or they may just all play Parcheesi and Mahjong and eat finger sandwiches.
...In the 104 years of the Rose Bowl the game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system. ...
No, not necessarily.
would have happened this year to both the Rose and Sugar Bowls.
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The idea that the people who decide on the championship game sites make the.decision about 6 years in advance.and have no clue what teams will be in the game seems to have floated past the reach of the damaged syphlitic brains of some people, as well as some of us with functioning brains. They are playing the game in different sections of the country over the next five years, including Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis and some LAish area that doesn't even have a stadium right now. Obviously, good weather or an indoor stadium are restrictions, though watching Alabama or Clemson play in First Energy Stadium in January would please me no end. But having the game in different parts of the country is a goal.
Okay I can live with that.
I guess it might be clear that different parts of the country may not add up equal, at times. :-)
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The Big 10 I don't think is all that happy with the current configuration either, probably the Big 12 too. At least as far as the rules go. Rather than push for more teams the BIG 10, Big 12, and PAC might all three push for guaranteed berths for Conference Champions. They may not, but the possibility certainly exists.
And while the guy writing the article might be right that expansion is off the table for the moment.(He could be wrong too) I'm sure there will be some offseason jockeying going on that mat of may not manifest itself in some sort of rules tweeking. Or they may just all play Parcheesi and Mahjong and eat finger sandwiches.
If I understand Delaney's comments, the Big Whatever wants a tweaking that has as much to do with the other four bowls as the playoffs. As in, why Florida with an 8 game conference schedule and two FCS games in one.of the four seeded bowls. Florida justified its selection, in the end, but the process issue remains. He supports the current system, even if one of his teams has been left out the last two years.
There is a guaranteed slot for conference champs in the 6 seeded bowls. And no way to guarantee slots in a 4.team playoff.
As you said Florida justified its selection. But even if they hadn't it is as much about ratings as ticket sales. Lots of folks wanted to see that Mich/Fla rematch game. I know I did. And I think it was a good matchup. Much better than the 8 conference game Auburn vs the 9 conference game Purdue matchup. I understand Delaney's comments too but I just understand them in an alternate way.
I think it was a darned good thing for the BIG 10 to have Florida in it, he should be thankful.(See above Auburn/Purdue)
The 8 game thing I have said time and time again is just so much fluff and deception. But it is truly meaningless as Massey in the end had Michigan's and Florida's overall SOS at #17 and #18 respectively. So what did those 8 games as opposed to 9 games really mean. That's right absolutely zilch. Just a case of Delaney posturing and preening puffily away.
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The idea that the people who decide on the championship game sites make the.decision about 6 years in advance.and have no clue what teams will be in the game seems to have floated past the reach of the damaged syphlitic brains of some people, as well as some of us with functioning brains. They are playing the game in different sections of the country over the next five years, including Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis and some LAish area that doesn't even have a stadium right now. Obviously, good weather or an indoor stadium are restrictions, though watching Alabama or Clemson play in First Energy Stadium in January would please me no end. But having the game in different parts of the country is a goal.
Okay I can live with that.
I guess it might be clear that different parts of the country may not add up equal, at times. :-)
Well, good weather or a dome means the next five games are in Nawlins, Miami Gardens, Indianapolis, Inglewood, and Houston. Depending on how you count Houston, that is a game in each power conference foot print, while making three fairly easy trips for Bama fans.
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Conference Records in Bowl Games:
PAC 12: 3-4
ACC: 5 - 5
Big 12: 4 - 3
Big 10: 5 - 4
SEC: 6 - 5
Pretty even. Of course, with the ACC and the SEC playing only 8 conference games, they have additional bowl eligible teams....
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As you said Florida justified its selection. But even if they hadn't it is as much about ratings as ticket sales. Lots of folks wanted to see that Mich/Fla rematch game. I know I did. And I think it was a good matchup. Much better than the 8 conference game Auburn vs the 9 conference game Purdue matchup. I understand Delaney's comments too but I just understand them in an alternate way.
I think it was a darned good thing for the BIG 10 to have Florida in it, he should be thankful.(See above Auburn/Purdue)
The 8 game thing I have said time and time again is just so much fluff and deception. But it is truly meaningless as Massey in the end had Michigan's and Florida's overall SOS at #17 and #18 respectively.
Apples and Oranges since Florida got to 9 wins playing 2 FCS teams. Had it played one more SEC team there is a chance of a loss.
So what did those 8 games as opposed to 9 games really mean. That's right absolutely zilch. Just a case of Delaney posturing and preening puffily away.
Actually it meant quite a lot, which Delaney pointed out.
Until this issue is taken seriously expansion talk will not be a priority and may never be.
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Conference Records in Bowl Games:
PAC 12: 3-4
ACC: 5 - 5
Big 12: 4 - 3
Big 10: 5 - 4
SEC: 6 - 5
Pretty even. Of course, with the ACC and the SEC playing only 8 conference games, they have additional bowl eligible teams....
With the Bic Whatever playing the easiest non-conference schedules they have five more bowl teams than they deserve.....
Your post is senseless.
It proves absolutely nothing beyond you hate the BigTen
You had to go all the way to Turkey to give us your same old shit?
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Conference Records in Bowl Games:
PAC 12: 3-4
ACC: 5 - 5
Big 12: 4 - 3
Big 10: 5 - 4
SEC: 6 - 5
Pretty even. Of course, with the ACC and the SEC playing only 8 conference games, they have additional bowl eligible teams....
With the Bic Whatever playing the easiest non-conference schedules they have five more bowl teams than they deserve.....
Your post is senseless.
It proves absolutely nothing beyond you hate the BigTen
You had to go all the way to Turkey to give us your same old shit?
I picture Midnight Express, except he is enjoying it.
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Conference Records in Bowl Games:
PAC 12: 3-4
ACC: 5 - 5
Big 12: 4 - 3
Big 10: 5 - 4
SEC: 6 - 5
Pretty even. Of course, with the ACC and the SEC playing only 8 conference games, they have additional bowl eligible teams....
:-)
As opposed to the Big Ten just playing with themselves.
Of the Big 10's 4 losses three of them came at the hands of the SEC.
Big Ten vs SEC head to head 1-3 combined score of 70-153.(Ouch!) Thank God for your old favorite paper tiger Miss St. ;-)
Seriously the PSU/Kentucky(In the end Kentucky had a pretty good year) and Iowa/Miss St were good games.
Michigan and Purdue getting ass raped not so much. At least Malzahn had the class to call off the dogs in the second half. Mullen on the other hand was an animal.
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High TV ratings for the Rose and Sugar Bowls in non-playoff year.
Playoff expansion talk growing weaker.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/
(https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/)
Personally I'm okay with the four team playoff. It allows me to speculate on and opine the picks. But just because one, or fifty, articles say expansion is dead in the water, it doesn't mean it is gospel.
The poor-boy 5 would like the chance to dance, but they don't have the clout to purchase a new dress for the occasion. The PAC-12 is feeling isolated, but what can they expect tieing themselves to the Big Whatever for the NoseBowl.
I just wish the playoff committee was honest; for some reason I dislike educational organizations not being truthful. (Yes, Jim, the C in NCAA has something to do with colleges)
The number of "coaches" that the top schools can afford is not conducive to the myth of parity
In college athletics. (The other side is that the coaching fraternity is a family affair with nephews,
Brothers and in-laws having positions custom-made that skirt the NCAA limits)
[One new coaching position is uniform coordinator: they are responsible for ensuring that no uniform is worn twice in one season and to coordinate the uniforms with what they want the fans to wear for the game and which sections will alternate colors to please the TV people.
This position starts at $150,000]
The Big 10 I don't think is all that happy with the current configuration either, probably the Big 12 too. At least as far as the rules go. Rather than push for more teams the BIG 10, Big 12, and PAC might all three push for guaranteed berths for Conference Champions. They may not, but the possibility certainly exists.
And while the guy writing the article might be right that expansion is off the table for the moment.(He could be wrong too) I'm sure there will be some offseason jockeying going on that mat of may not manifest itself in some sort of rules tweeking. Or they may just all play Parcheesi and Mahjong and eat finger sandwiches.
...In the 104 years of the Rose Bowl the game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system. ...
No, not necessarily.
would have happened this year to both the Rose and Sugar Bowls.
We're talking about future configurations, but then you know that.
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As you said Florida justified its selection. But even if they hadn't it is as much about ratings as ticket sales. Lots of folks wanted to see that Mich/Fla rematch game. I know I did. And I think it was a good matchup. Much better than the 8 conference game Auburn vs the 9 conference game Purdue matchup. I understand Delaney's comments too but I just understand them in an alternate way.
I think it was a darned good thing for the BIG 10 to have Florida in it, he should be thankful.(See above Auburn/Purdue)
The 8 game thing I have said time and time again is just so much fluff and deception. But it is truly meaningless as Massey in the end had Michigan's and Florida's overall SOS at #17 and #18 respectively.
Apples and Oranges since Florida got to 9 wins playing 2 FCS teams. Had it played one more SEC team there is a chance of a loss.
So what did those 8 games as opposed to 9 games really mean. That's right absolutely zilch. Just a case of Delaney posturing and preening puffily away.
Actually it meant quite a lot, which Delaney pointed out.
The sad thing is that you actually believe it.
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Well, cap, for bowl eligibility the Big 10 would go 1 - 1 in each of those seven extra conference games. Barring a miracle along the order.of mlm loave and fishes the SEC won't lose any of those OOC games to FCS teams. One extra win for the weaker half of their teams makes it easier to get teams bowl eligible.
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...In the 104 years of the Rose Bowl the game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system. ...
No, not necessarily.
would have happened this year to both the Rose and Sugar Bowls.
We're talking about future configurations, but then you know that.
I know that. That’s what I posted. But you questioned it.
Unless the CFP limits Conferences to only 2 playoff teams it would likely happen every year in an 8 team playoff. 2016, for example, the Big Ten would have had 4 eligible teams.
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Well, cap, for bowl eligibility the Big 10 would go 1 - 1 in each of those seven extra conference games. Barring a miracle along the order.of mlm loave and fishes the SEC won't lose any of those OOC games to FCS teams. One extra win for the weaker half of their teams makes it easier to get teams bowl eligible.
The Big Ten has more weak teams. SOS proves that out. So the argument you're making has no teeth, I understand what you are saying. And it would make sense if the Big Ten were as strong(I mean really football strong) as the SEC. Currently they're just not. Not a dig, just reality.
Now your point has much more teeth if you make it with the ACC in mind. But model just doesn't work with the SEC. If you analyze the power rankings of lets say Massey would prove that out. Basically half of the teams in the Top 15 are SEC squads. Dividing that up by the five Power Conferences they should only have three. Not the seven they actually have. And really when it comes right down to it that's what we are talking about. If Kentucky had to play PSU in the regular season they have a legit shot at winning it.
Now while I fully see your point that they might have one more loss(and they might not) that doesn't change the actual 'football' power of the team. Furthermore there would have been only one team affected by that one more loss in as much as they would have been knocked out of bowl contention. So I see Delaney's talk as more of the excuse type rather than a legitimate beef. Others might see it your way and that's cool too. Opinions vary.
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...In the 104 years of the Rose Bowl the game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system. ...
No, not necessarily.
would have happened this year to both the Rose and Sugar Bowls.
We're talking about future configurations, but then you know that.
I know that. That’s what I posted. But you questioned it.
Just bringing up this year was in your words senseless.
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Do university acceptance rates have any place in this discussion?
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Well, cap, for bowl eligibility the Big 10 would go 1 - 1 in each of those seven extra conference games. Barring a miracle along the order.of mlm loave and fishes the SEC won't lose any of those OOC games to FCS teams. One extra win for the weaker half of their teams makes it easier to get teams bowl eligible.
The Big Ten has more weak teams. SOS proves that out. So the argument you're making has no teeth, I understand what you are saying. And it would make sense if the Big Ten were as strong(I mean really football strong) as the SEC. Currently they're just not. Not a dig, just reality.
Now your point has much more teeth if you make it with the ACC in mind. But model just doesn't work with the SEC. If you analyze the power rankings of lets say Massey would prove that out. Basically half of the teams in the Top 15 are SEC squads. Dividing that up by the five Power Conferences they should only have three. Not the seven they actually have. And really when it comes right down to it that's what we are talking about. If Kentucky had to play PSU in the regular season they have a legit shot at winning it.
Now while I fully see your point that they might have one more loss(and they might not) that doesn't change the actual 'football' power of the team. Furthermore there would have been only one team affected by that one more loss in as much as they would have been knocked out of bowl contention. So I see Delaney's talk as more of the excuse type rather than a legitimate beef. Others might see it your way and that's cool too. Opinions vary.
Every Big.10 team is substantially better.than Charleston southern.
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Well, cap, for bowl eligibility the Big 10 would go 1 - 1 in each of those seven extra conference games. Barring a miracle along the order.of mlm loave and fishes the SEC won't lose any of those OOC games to FCS teams. One extra win for the weaker half of their teams makes it easier to get teams bowl eligible.
The Big Ten has more weak teams. SOS proves that out. So the argument you're making has no teeth, I understand what you are saying. And it would make sense if the Big Ten were as strong(I mean really football strong) as the SEC. Currently they're just not. Not a dig, just reality.
Now your point has much more teeth if you make it with the ACC in mind. But model just doesn't work with the SEC. If you analyze the power rankings of lets say Massey would prove that out. Basically half of the teams in the Top 15 are SEC squads. Dividing that up by the five Power Conferences they should only have three. Not the seven they actually have. And really when it comes right down to it that's what we are talking about. If Kentucky had to play PSU in the regular season they have a legit shot at winning it.
Now while I fully see your point that they might have one more loss(and they might not) that doesn't change the actual 'football' power of the team. Furthermore there would have been only one team affected by that one more loss in as much as they would have been knocked out of bowl contention. So I see Delaney's talk as more of the excuse type rather than a legitimate beef. Others might see it your way and that's cool too. Opinions vary.
Every Big.10 team is substantially better.than Charleston southern.
Citadel too.
That's not the point. Like I said all of em except one could lose that extra game and still be bowl eligible. Of course all of them wouldn't lose.
If you totally flipped that idea on its head and all of the Big Ten schools would have won one more game only 2 schools would have been rendered bowl eligible.
Now here's the part I introduced earlier when this stuff was being knocked around. There is nothing stopping the Big 10 from only playing 8 conference games.
Not one thing. Why do they and other conferences do it? Follow the money.
To do so would cost the Big Ten revenue. That's right cold hard cash. How you say? The SEC "pays" these sad sacks to play them and it pays them plenty.
The greedy Big 10 doesn't want anything to do with that. So they mask that by a bullshit argument that somehow by playing 9 games they are tougher and so much more righteous by some screwy way. A way that any rational person would be hard pressed to fathom why. :-)
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To give those Trump-loving southerners a peek at the real California, not that sit-com California to the south. (Sorry, Troj, but you know it is true.)
I actually have no idea what you are talking about here. If you are talking about the difference between Northern and Southern California, I am well versed in the topic and could debate that easily. I have lived in No Cal, So Cal and Central Cal. I finally chose to live in So Orange County as I felt it had the best combination of opportunity and living conditions. I may move to Napa Valley though in a few more years.
The Silicon Valley is not any more the "real" California than Yosemite is or Los Angeles is for that matter. They are all a part of it. California is a living breathing thing, constantly changing and reinventing itself for better or for worse...lately more for worse.
What any of that has to do with Donald Trump is a mystery to me.
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
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I think part of the reason that talk of an expanded playoff may have subsided at the moment...is that everything worked out pretty neatly this year.
No one really has a legitimate complaint at this point. There were four undefeated teams at the end of the regular season and one of them did not get in...but they lost anyway...so we're all good for the time being.
But that doesn't mean chaos won't rear its head again next year.
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I'll your answer to my snarky question as "no."
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Of course I said nothing about graduation rates. But if that's an important part of the conversation to you rock on with it.
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I don't know. Since you seem to like this feel free to continue your research.
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I've frequently heard the story that Joe Namath was rejected by Maryland because his test scores weren't good enough.
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Fair enough. Namath told the tale himself, but he's just an old drunk anyway.
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To give those Trump-loving southerners a peek at the real California, not that sit-com California to the south. (Sorry, Troj, but you know it is true.)
I actually have no idea what you are talking about here.
It is djgrady. Red ipsa loquitor.
If you are talking about the difference between Northern and Southern California, I am well versed in the topic and could debate that easily. I have lived in No Cal, So Cal and Central Cal. I finally chose to live in So Orange County as I felt it had the best combination of opportunity and living conditions. I may move to Napa Valley though in a few more years.
We love visiting Cali. Went five times last year, from Cabrillo Monument to Crescent City. If I could, I would try to retire to Carmel by the Sea. Big Sur and the Monterey Peninsula are two of my favorite places in the world.
OK, I would probably most like to retire in Sedona. But after that.
Either would be better than retiring to a Turkish Prison.The Silicon Valley is not any more the "real" California than Yosemite is or Los Angeles is for that matter. They are all a part of it. California is a living breathing thing, constantly changing and reinventing itself for better or for worse...lately more for worse.
What any of that has to do with Donald Trump is a mystery to me.
Well thanks to the Trump shut down Joshua Tree is literally full of shit, so there is that.
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that. In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected. But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
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Well, cap, for bowl eligibility the Big 10 would go 1 - 1 in each of those seven extra conference games. Barring a miracle along the order.of mlm loave and fishes the SEC won't lose any of those OOC games to FCS teams. One extra win for the weaker half of their teams makes it easier to get teams bowl eligible.
The Big Ten has more weak teams. SOS proves that out. [So the argument you're making has no teeth, I understand what you are saying. And it would make sense if the Big Ten were as strong(I mean really football strong) as the SEC. Currently they're just not. Not a dig, just reality.
Now your point has much more teeth if you make it with the ACC in mind. But model just doesn't work with the SEC. If you analyze the power rankings of lets say Massey would prove that out. Basically half of the teams in the Top 15 are SEC squads.
Well, no. 5 are SEC / 3 are Big Ten.
Dividing that up by the five Power Conferences they should only have three.
That, of course, makes no sense.
If Kentucky had to play PSU in the regular season they have a legit shot at winning it.
Kentucky would be dragged kicking and screaming to play Penn State. Rest easy Wildcat fans, Central Michigan, Murray State, Middle Tennessee are our reliable patsies. Jesus, don’t bring up Tennessee, A and M, or please forget the Vanderbilt and Missouri games. Another SEC game and we could have beeen in the Belk Bowl
Now while I fully see your point that they might have one more loss(and they might not) that doesn't change the actual 'football' power of the team. Furthermore there would have been only one team affected by that one more loss in as much as they would have been knocked out of bowl contention. So I see Delaney's talk as more of the excuse type rather than a legitimate beef. Others might see it your way and that's cool too. Opinions vary.
Huh?
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that.
. Really? Negotiated agreements of what?
In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected.
They already are.
But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
Why would either agree to change anything? And why do you not ask the same questions of the Sugar Bowl?
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If that kind or thing offends you perhaps next time do not claim posters have people's dicks in their mouths, hypocrite. I am not.afraid of you.
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Well, cap, for bowl eligibility the Big 10 would go 1 - 1 in each of those seven extra conference games. Barring a miracle along the order.of mlm loave and fishes the SEC won't lose any of those OOC games to FCS teams. One extra win for the weaker half of their teams makes it easier to get teams bowl eligible.
The Big Ten has more weak teams. SOS proves that out. [So the argument you're making has no teeth, I understand what you are saying. And it would make sense if the Big Ten were as strong(I mean really football strong) as the SEC. Currently they're just not. Not a dig, just reality.
Now your point has much more teeth if you make it with the ACC in mind. But model just doesn't work with the SEC. If you analyze the power rankings of lets say Massey would prove that out. Basically half of the teams in the Top 15 are SEC squads.
Well, no. 5 are SEC / 3 are Big Ten.
Dividing that up by the five Power Conferences they should only have three.
That, of course, makes no sense.
If Kentucky had to play PSU in the regular season they have a legit shot at winning it.
Kentucky would be dragged kicking and screaming to play Penn State. Rest easy Wildcat fans, Central Michigan, Murray State, Middle Tennessee are our reliable patsies. Jesus, don’t bring up Tennessee, A and M, or please forget the Vanderbilt and Missouri games. Another SEC game and we could have beeen in the Belk Bowl
Now while I fully see your point that they might have one more loss(and they might not) that doesn't change the actual 'football' power of the team. Furthermore there would have been only one team affected by that one more loss in as much as they would have been knocked out of bowl contention. So I see Delaney's talk as more of the excuse type rather than a legitimate beef. Others might see it your way and that's cool too. Opinions vary.
Huh?
From now on just stick with your last utterance on this post. It fits you.
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that.
. Really? Negotiated agreements of what?
In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected.
They already are.
But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
Why would either agree to change anything? And why do you not ask the same questions of the Sugar Bowl?
1) Who gets to play where and why.(To preclude your alarmist 'they sky is falling two 9-3 teams in the Rose Bowl' idiocy) AKA simple seeding by using all four major bowl games as playoff games. Please stop acting like a child. Or playing the fool. I'm not sure which.
2) Future James 'future', sheesh we've been over this. Not 'now', 'later' the future already. Again stop acting like a twit. It is annoying.
3a) To accommodate a change in the number of teams.
3b) I would be asking the same changes for all of them twit. Pay attention.
Question for you. After you answer the question, try and think outside the box to reason why it was asked.
How many of the Top 8 teams in the CFPR had 3 losses?
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that.
. Really? Negotiated agreements of what?
In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected.
They already are.
But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
Why would either agree to change anything? And why do you not ask the same questions of the Sugar Bowl?
1) Who gets to play where and why.(To preclude your alarmist 'they sky is falling two 9-3 teams in the Rose Bowl' idiocy) AKA simple seeding by using all four major bowl games as playoff games. Please stop acting like a child. Or playing the fool. I'm not sure which.
2) Future James 'future', sheesh we've been over this. Not 'now', 'later' the future already. Again stop acting like a twit. It is annoying.
3a) To accommodate a change in the number of teams.
3b) I would be asking the same changes for all of them twit. Pay attention.
Question for you. After you answer the question, try and think outside the box to reason why it was asked.
How many of the Top 8 teams in the CFPR had 3 losses?
None.
Why do you ask?
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that.
. Really? Negotiated agreements of what?
In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected.
They already are.
But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
Why would either agree to change anything? And why do you not ask the same questions of the Sugar Bowl?
1) Who gets to play where and why.(To preclude your alarmist 'they sky is falling two 9-3 teams in the Rose Bowl' idiocy) AKA simple seeding by using all four major bowl games as playoff games. Please stop acting like a child. Or playing the fool. I'm not sure which.
2) Future James 'future', sheesh we've been over this. Not 'now', 'later' the future already. Again stop acting like a twit. It is annoying.
3a) To accommodate a change in the number of teams.
3b) I would be asking the same changes for all of them twit. Pay attention.
Question for you. After you answer the question, try and think outside the box to reason why it was asked.
How many of the Top 8 teams in the CFPR had 3 losses?
None.
Why do you ask?
So you don't know. I'm not surprised.
Okay I'm wasting my time, we're done here.
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Cap, Thanks for confirming Steve's location.
I will just teach him a little lesson about what can happen
When you call someone's Father a Village Idiot and his Mother a whore.
I gave him a chance to retract.
Too late now.
Your father was a village idiot and your mother was a whore.
And of course if you try anything, I will now hold cap equally culpable. Thanks for the heads up!
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that.
. Really? Negotiated agreements of what?
In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected.
They already are.
But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
Why would either agree to change anything? And why do you not ask the same questions of the Sugar Bowl?
1) Who gets to play where and why.(To preclude your alarmist 'they sky is falling two 9-3 teams in the Rose Bowl' idiocy) AKA simple seeding by using all four major bowl games as playoff games. Please stop acting like a child. Or playing the fool. I'm not sure which.
2) Future James 'future', sheesh we've been over this. Not 'now', 'later' the future already. Again stop acting like a twit. It is annoying.
3a) To accommodate a change in the number of teams.
3b) I would be asking the same changes for all of them twit. Pay attention.
Question for you. After you answer the question, try and think outside the box to reason why it was asked.
How many of the Top 8 teams in the CFPR had 3 losses?
None.
Why do you ask?
So you don't know. I'm not surprised.
Okay I'm wasting my time, we're done here.
Ah. Didn’t think that one through did you?
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Cap, Thanks for confirming Steve's location.
I will just teach him a little lesson about what can happen
When you call someone's Father a Village Idiot and his Mother a whore.
I gave him a chance to retract.
Too late now.
Your father was a village idiot and your mother was a whore.
And of course if you try anything, I will now hold cap equally culpable. Thanks for the heads up!
Don't get me involved I didn't confirm anything.
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Cap, Thanks for confirming Steve's location.
I will just teach him a little lesson about what can happen
When you call someone's Father a Village Idiot and his Mother a whore.
I gave him a chance to retract.
Too late now.
Your father was a village idiot and your mother was a whore.
And of course if you try anything, I will now hold cap equally culpable. Thanks for the heads up!
Don't get me involved I didn't confirm anything.
I never thought you did.
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that.
. Really? Negotiated agreements of what?
In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected.
They already are.
But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
Why would either agree to change anything? And why do you not ask the same questions of the Sugar Bowl?
1) Who gets to play where and why.(To preclude your alarmist 'they sky is falling two 9-3 teams in the Rose Bowl' idiocy) AKA simple seeding by using all four major bowl games as playoff games. Please stop acting like a child. Or playing the fool. I'm not sure which.
2) Future James 'future', sheesh we've been over this. Not 'now', 'later' the future already. Again stop acting like a twit. It is annoying.
3a) To accommodate a change in the number of teams.
3b) I would be asking the same changes for all of them twit. Pay attention.
Question for you. After you answer the question, try and think outside the box to reason why it was asked.
How many of the Top 8 teams in the CFPR had 3 losses?
None.
Why do you ask?
So you don't know. I'm not surprised.
Okay I'm wasting my time, we're done here.
Ah. Didn’t think that one through did you?
No, I thought it through. I assumed you were smart enough to connect the dots I gave you.
Once again I was counting on you to show some intelligence. Although I've gotten enough examples from you showing it is not going to happen that I should really stop trying. But I'm a hopeful sort of person so...
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that.
. Really? Negotiated agreements of what?
In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected.
They already are.
But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
Why would either agree to change anything? And why do you not ask the same questions of the Sugar Bowl?
1) Who gets to play where and why.(To preclude your alarmist 'they sky is falling two 9-3 teams in the Rose Bowl' idiocy) AKA simple seeding by using all four major bowl games as playoff games. Please stop acting like a child. Or playing the fool. I'm not sure which.
2) Future James 'future', sheesh we've been over this. Not 'now', 'later' the future already. Again stop acting like a twit. It is annoying.
3a) To accommodate a change in the number of teams.
3b) I would be asking the same changes for all of them twit. Pay attention.
Question for you. After you answer the question, try and think outside the box to reason why it was asked.
How many of the Top 8 teams in the CFPR had 3 losses?
None.
Why do you ask?
So you don't know. I'm not surprised.
Okay I'm wasting my time, we're done here.
Ah. Didn’t think that one through did you?
No, I thought it through. I assumed you were smart enough to connect the dots I gave you.
Once again I was counting on you to show some intelligence. Although I've gotten enough examples from you showing it is not going to happen that I should really stop trying. But I'm a hopeful sort of person so...
Looks like those dots blocked your vision thingy.
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the Rose Bowl... game has NEVER featured two 3 loss teams’ but that becomes more than just possible under an 8 team playoff system.
That would suck
Alarmist talk. Part of the negotiated agreements could simply preclude that.
. Really? Negotiated agreements of what?
In fact all of the Big Name bowls could be protected.
They already are.
But the PAC and Big would have to be reasonable as to who gets to play in it.
Why would either agree to change anything? And why do you not ask the same questions of the Sugar Bowl?
1) Who gets to play where and why.(To preclude your alarmist 'they sky is falling two 9-3 teams in the Rose Bowl' idiocy) AKA simple seeding by using all four major bowl games as playoff games. Please stop acting like a child. Or playing the fool. I'm not sure which.
2) Future James 'future', sheesh we've been over this. Not 'now', 'later' the future already. Again stop acting like a twit. It is annoying.
3a) To accommodate a change in the number of teams.
3b) I would be asking the same changes for all of them twit. Pay attention.
Question for you. After you answer the question, try and think outside the box to reason why it was asked.
How many of the Top 8 teams in the CFPR had 3 losses?
None.
Why do you ask?
So you don't know. I'm not surprised.
Okay I'm wasting my time, we're done here.
Ah. Didn’t think that one through did you?
No, I thought it through. I assumed you were smart enough to connect the dots I gave you.
Once again I was counting on you to show some intelligence. Although I've gotten enough examples from you showing it is not going to happen that I should really stop trying. But I'm a hopeful sort of person so...
Looks like those dots blocked your vision thingy.
Rave on MacDorf.
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Haskins' successor sees the light of Day.
https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2019/01/justin-fields-5-star-transfer-quarterback-from-georgia-is-headed-to-ohio-state-report.html#incart_2box
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Haskins' successor sees the light of Day.
https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2019/01/justin-fields-5-star-transfer-quarterback-from-georgia-is-headed-to-ohio-state-report.html#incart_2box
I saw that today too. Incredible pickup for OSU. This kid is going to be electric in the right offense as long as he doesn't go all Jalen Hurts and neglect his passing game.
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we're done here.
If only that were true
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If that kind or thing offends you...
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/8a/57/2b8a57f6e0841f27a0e84da8ba80c8fc--kellys-heroes-kelly-s.jpg)
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We love visiting Cali. Went five times last year, from Cabrillo Monument to Crescent City. If I could, I would try to retire to Carmel by the Sea. Big Sur and the Monterey Peninsula are two of my favorite places in the world.
Have lived here all my life. Still a pretty nice place despite the bad politics and high taxes. Carmel/Monterey is a great place. Wife and I going up there for our anniversary later this year.
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we're done here.
If only that were true
He has only posted twice about that topic since saying he was done. For cap that is admirable restraint.
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we're done here.
If only that were true
You'd be bored out of your socks.
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Oh give me land
Lotsa land
where the Bizun roam.
Every year
Or so itseems.
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Request
DENIED
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25691009/usc-trojans-deny-new-york-jets-arizona-cardinals-permission-interview-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25691009/usc-trojans-deny-new-york-jets-arizona-cardinals-permission-interview-kliff-kingsbury)
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25691009/usc-trojans-deny-new-york-jets-arizona-cardinals-permission-interview-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25691009/usc-trojans-deny-new-york-jets-arizona-cardinals-permission-interview-kliff-kingsbury)
Yeah, there's been a lot of chatter on the subject over the past couple of days. He better be awfully good... that's all I can say. So far, he looks a little Lane Kiffinish in terms of maturity and character.
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The Colts are looking like Purdue vs the ohio state
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25691009/usc-trojans-deny-new-york-jets-arizona-cardinals-permission-interview-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25691009/usc-trojans-deny-new-york-jets-arizona-cardinals-permission-interview-kliff-kingsbury)
Yeah, there's been a lot of chatter on the subject over the past couple of days. He better be awfully good... that's all I can say. So far, he looks a little Lane Kiffinish in terms of maturity and character.
Follow the money.
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ACC's title game contract includes out clause in case CFP expands
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25701172/acc-clause-charlotte-football-championship-game (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25701172/acc-clause-charlotte-football-championship-game)
SAN JOSE, Calif. -- The ACC's football conference championship game contract with the city of Charlotte, which runs through 2030, includes an out clause that accounts for the possibility of a change to the postseason format should conference title games ever be eliminated, commissioner John Swofford told ESPN on Sunday.
While none of the FBS conference commissioners are seriously considering that, they are all willing to at least evaluate the current status of the College Football Playoff, which is wrapping up its fifth season.
Swofford said at this point, he still believes the four-team format works best.
"I think it's reasonable to evaluate it," he said, "but most of the noise is from outside the room, not within the room. I don't think we should have our heads stuck in the sand ... you want to re-evaluate it and see if it's accomplishing what you want it to accomplish, and certainly to this point I think it would appear the answer has been yes."
And there is the outside the box connect the dots thinking that I was trying to coax young Skippy into reasoning out himself when I asked him how many of the top eight teams had three losses at the end of the regular season. Alas he couldn't quite get there.
And before you yak James no one including me is saying it will happen. Just that there would/could be a way to protect all of the top four bowl games if expansion occurred.
You take the top eight teams and put them in the four major bowls. No conference CG game. No two 9-3 teams in your precious playpen the Rose Bowl. And once again it was/is conjecture about 'possibilities'. Not that it would happen but it 'could' happen.
This idea has been discussed before. Use the four bowl games. And not just in this fashion. They could keep the conference CG games and still use the bowl games as an 8 team quarterfinal then semi-final games then CG game. More games sure. But they play 16 regular season games, and potentially play 19, in the pros.
That suggested format has been out there for several years. And before you say it will never happen, remember you said four games would never happen. Times change.
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Awful lot of contingent travel with that extra week.
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Awful lot of contingent travel with that extra week.
I agree.
And I don't personally endorse such a change. Not totally opposed to it either. I'm only pointing out that it is out there. And like I said, times change.
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Expansion talk is over.
Come back in 2022 when the current contract is 3 years from being up.
If the current system is functioning as well as it is today then put it to bed forever.
Only College Football, of all the major sports, has found a way to pit the TWO best teams of the SEASON in a CG for most of the last 20 years.
Since the CFP there has been one year where the top seed did not make the CG.
There is simply no viable reason to open up the playoff to also-rans.
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IMO, the Playoffs could and should un-TIE themselves to a calendar that accommodates the Bowl cartel, there is nothing sacred about Jan1 or the Nose Bowl for that matter.
That would be economic suicide for College Football. New Year’s Day is the Game’s biggest platform, has been forever. Anchored by the Rose and Sugar Bowls and introduced by the eponymous Rose Bowl Parade no single day of the season attracts a larger national TV audience.
As TV ratings show the further away from January first the games are shown the lower the TV audience. This year NONE of the six NYD Bowl Games had playoff significane and still delivered more viwers than watched the semi-finals.
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IMO, the Playoffs could and should un-TIE themselves to a calendar that accommodates the Bowl cartel, there is nothing sacred about Jan1 or the Nose Bowl for that matter.
That would be economic suicide for College Football. New Year’s Day is the Game’s biggest platform, has been forever. Anchored by the Rose and Sugar Bowls and introduced by the eponymous Rose Bowl Parade no single day of the season attracts a larger national TV audience.
As TV ratings show the further away from January first the games are shown the lower the TV audience. This year NONE of the six NYD Bowl Games had playoff significane and still delivered more viwers than watched the semi-finals.
Economic suicide? Rubbish.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.awfulannouncing.com/espn/college-football-playoff-ratings-down-25-percent-scheduling-new-years-day.html
(https://www.google.com/amp/amp.awfulannouncing.com/espn/college-football-playoff-ratings-down-25-percent-scheduling-new-years-day.html)
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IMO, the Playoffs could and should un-TIE themselves to a calendar that accommodates the Bowl cartel, there is nothing sacred about Jan1 or the Nose Bowl for that matter.
That would be economic suicide for College Football. New Year’s Day is the Game’s biggest platform, has been forever. Anchored by the Rose and Sugar Bowls and introduced by the eponymous Rose Bowl Parade no single day of the season attracts a larger national TV audience.
As TV ratings show the further away from January first the games are shown the lower the TV audience. This year NONE of the six NYD Bowl Games had playoff significane and still delivered more viwers than watched the semi-finals.
Economic suicide? Rubbish.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.awfulannouncing.com/espn/college-football-playoff-ratings-down-25-percent-scheduling-new-years-day.html
(https://www.google.com/amp/amp.awfulannouncing.com/espn/college-football-playoff-ratings-down-25-percent-scheduling-new-years-day.html)
Seems you are streaming along with the failing ESPN fake news!
What’s fake about the ratings ?
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Ratings? Who said anything about ratings....I wrote "fake news",
The article I posted that you challenged as fake was about the ratings.
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Ratings? Who said anything about ratings....I wrote "fake news",
The article I posted that you challenged as fake was about the ratings.
News to me, Jim.
Well, now you know.
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I liked the +7 and under 60 when it came out
Wil take the current Wynn numbers
Clemson +6
Under 57.5
Record - 5-6
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Arizona Football Cardinals granted permission to talk to USC OC Kliff Kingsbury, whose tenure as OC has even outlasted the Manny Diaz stint at Temple.
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Dwayne Haskins to enter the draft. He would be foolish not to. I expect him to be the first QB off the board, and a possible 1 pick. He looks like the closest thing to a franchise QB coming out. That will make him very popular with, say, the Giants or a QB hungry team looking to stay ahead of the giants, like the Raiders, or Bucs, or Jags.
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Lo White, Joe Thomas headline this year's CFB HoF inductees:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2019-college-football-hall-of-fame-vince-young-rocket-ismail-headline-star-studded-class/
via http://cbssportsapp.com
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Dwayne Haskins to enter the draft. He would be foolish not to. I expect him to be the first QB off the board, and a possible 1 pick. He looks like the closest thing to a franchise QB coming out. That will make him very popular with, say, the Giants or a QB hungry team looking to stay ahead of the giants, like the Raiders, or Bucs, or Jags.
Big kid with a strong arm I like him. He'll follow the money of course. Another year of college football would have probably helped him though IMO.
But he just can't pass up that moola. Might be the second or even third QB if he stays. Might have been the #1 if he stayed too for that matter.
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Dwayne Haskins to enter the draft. He would be foolish not to. I expect him to be the first QB off the board, and a possible 1 pick. He looks like the closest thing to a franchise QB coming out. That will make him very popular with, say, the Giants or a QB hungry team looking to stay ahead of the giants, like the Raiders, or Bucs, or Jags.
Big kid with a strong arm I like him. He'll follow the money of course. Another year of college football would have probably helped him though IMO.
But he just can't pass up that moola. Might be the second or even third QB if he stays. Might have been the #1 if he stayed too for that matter.
Even if Day does everything the same way I think Haskins is correct to leave at the same time as the previous coach.
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Dwayne Haskins to enter the draft. He would be foolish not to. I expect him to be the first QB off the board, and a possible 1 pick. He looks like the closest thing to a franchise QB coming out. That will make him very popular with, say, the Giants or a QB hungry team looking to stay ahead of the giants, like the Raiders, or Bucs, or Jags.
Big kid with a strong arm I like him. He'll follow the money of course. Another year of college football would have probably helped him though IMO.
But he just can't pass up that moola. Might be the second or even third QB if he stays. Might have been the #1 if he stayed too for that matter.
Even if Day does everything the same way I think Haskins is correct to leave at the same time as the previous coach.
His one year as a starting QB made a mockery of the Heisman voting.
He will never be as valuable as an NFLer as he is right now.
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Yep.
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Dwayne Haskins to enter the draft. He would be foolish not to. I expect him to be the first QB off the board, and a possible 1 pick. He looks like the closest thing to a franchise QB coming out. That will make him very popular with, say, the Giants or a QB hungry team looking to stay ahead of the giants, like the Raiders, or Bucs, or Jags.
Big kid with a strong arm I like him. He'll follow the money of course. Another year of college football would have probably helped him though IMO.
But he just can't pass up that moola. Might be the second or even third QB if he stays. Might have been the #1 if he stayed too for that matter.
Who would another year not help?
Heh
I am ok with Gmen drafting him at 6. No problem with having a team leapfrog Giants for him.
Figure a pass rusher if not the q.b.. Or could deal down and take a different signal caller.
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Roll Tigers
Sons of Clem 31
Sons of Bear 30
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Will go 35-27 Clemson.
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You'd think the guy would have taken the time to learn how to pronounce Raghib Ismail.
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What a great defensive play!
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What do you think of that baby?!
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What a great defensive play!
Looked like just a bad pass to me!
Jumped the route. Great job.
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Tua gonna carry the O-load for both teams tonight?
Re; Trevor L-I wondered what happened to that kid from "Dazed and Confused"
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Incredibly stupid play by Thompson.
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this is going to be fun
hit the over by the half?
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Three or four inches.
Probably they'll make it a foot.
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Clemson lined up offside. No call.
I saw that too.
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That's two crappy PAT for the Tide. First one lucked out and made it over.
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Looked like targetting on Clemson #24 .
Which conf are the refs from?
PAC
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Looked like targetting on Clemson #24 .
Which conf are the refs from?
PAC
Big Ten. Mike Cannon is the Referee
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this is going to be fun
hit the over by the half?
Could be.
On the ESPN Bowl Mania I think I had the final 36-31 Bama.
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Thanks Jim. That explains the no-call on the targetting.
You and Cap'n who has expressed has disdain for the targeting rule should sit down and have a long talk about it.
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Guts? Or my FG kicker is nervous?
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Thanks Jim. That explains the no-call on the targetting.
You and Cap'n who has expressed has disdain for the targeting rule should sit down and have a long talk about it.
LOL
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Bama kicker almost missed that one.
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And now one out of bounds.
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Bama tries to get cute by the goal line. I blame the OC. I wonder where he'll be coaching next season.
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Thanks Jim. That explains the no-call on the targetting.
You and Cap'n who has expressed has disdain for the targeting rule should sit down and have a long talk about it.
Good idea, YG, but I think we both have made our opinions and thoughts on this rule many times.
Having a conversation with a scholar/gentleman of Cap's rank is always a pleasure and a delight.
A conversation with one person arguing that the rule is not invoked often enough with the other person arguing there shouldn't be a rule at all promises to be interesting.
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Looks like a Big 12 game.
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Thanks Jim. That explains the no-call on the targetting.
You and Cap'n who has expressed has disdain for the targeting rule should sit down and have a long talk about it.
Yesterday in the Bears/Eagles game Adrian Amos absolutely cold cocked some Eagles receiver in a helmet to helmet collision. He got the unnecessary roughness call on him. But none of that targeting BS.
Former PSU kid Amos. I loved the hit, not ashamed to admit it. Some announcer used the phrase old school. For a few seconds I remembered how football should be played.
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Now THAT was guts.
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Thanks Jim. That explains the no-call on the targetting.
You and Cap'n who has expressed has disdain for the targeting rule should sit down and have a long talk about it.
Yesterday in the Bears/Eagles game Adrian Amos absolutely cold cocked some Eagles receiver in a helmet to helmet collision. He got the unnecessary roughness call on him. But none of that targeting BS.
Former PSU kid Amos. I loved the hit, not ashamed to admit it. Some announcer used the phrase old school. For a few seconds I remembered how football should be played.
Amos from Calvert Hall in Baltimore.
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Bama tries to get cute by the goal line. I blame the OC. I wonder where he'll be coaching next season.
Some place where he can do no harm.
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Bama defense getting out-thought time after time.
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Jalen Hurst time.
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how bout a nice Hawaiian punch>
Tua just got served.
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I feel like an old man for saying this but I have a hard time believing that anybody who is interested in this game was interested in that halftime.
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Another gripe, but one I've had all season: That ESPN/ABC score/time/down&distance graphic in the lower right corner is ridiculously confusing.
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I feel like an old man for saying this but I have a hard time believing that anybody who is interested in this game was interested in that halftime.
Their music, it's just noise!
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If you're going to go for it there, go for it there.
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If you're going to go for it there, go for it there.
I think they had a better chance at that with their regular offense.
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If you're going to go for it there, go for it there.
I think they had a better chance at that with their regular offense.
Yep. My point.
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If you're going to go for it there, go for it there.
I think they had a better chance at that with their regular offense.
Yep. My point.
Well you are a very smart man.
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Don't feel like googling but I wonder the last tine a Bama football team was down by 21.
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Maybe during the Dennis Franchione "era".
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with a little research I got them down 18 in an Oct 2010 game against South Carolina. (Bama eventually lost by 14)
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with a little research I got them down 18 in an Oct 2010 game against South Carolina. (Bama eventually lost by 14)
2009 Sugar Bowl. Down 21 - 0 to the Utes. Saban's second year.
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Lawrence to Ross is going to be fun the next 2 years.
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shoulda kept looking
28 point deficit coming up?
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That field is in poor shape.
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Looks like Dabo made the right choice switching out his senior QB for a true freshman. They said it was a long term play...paid off tonight
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and there's the over for those keeping score
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I'm a little surprised Saban didn't come out of halftime switching to Jalen Hurts
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shoulda kept looking
28 point deficit coming up?
Down 27 - 0 to LSU in 2003, Shula's first year. Not looking further.
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one senses Bama hasn't run a hurry-up offense out of necessity in awhile.
not in the play book
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Jesus. How overrated was Georgia?
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Bedtime!
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Insert fork. Check doneness.
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Jesus. How overrated was Georgia?
This made me laugh Jim.
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Is it too soon to note the #1 seed has never won the Championship?
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Worst deficit of the Saban Era at Bama.
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Congrats JB, this is one stone cold asswhuppin your guys are layin on the Tide.
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Worst deficit of the Saban Era at Bama.
As discussed, have to go back past the Mike Price era to see Bama down more than 27.
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20 years.ago, 1998 Music City Bowl, lost.38 - 7 to Virginia Tech. Mike Dubose was the coach.
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Too bad Dexter Lawrence had to sit out. ClemSIN s defense might have been something.
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I would not want to be Duke next year.
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kid turned into a pretty good QB
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congrats JB Clemson was Saban's worst nightmare, a fucking relentless monster,
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I feel like an old man for saying this but I have a hard time believing that anybody who is interested in this game was interested in that halftime.
Imagine Dragons is very popular among the current college students, so at least half the folks in the stadium were likely to be interested. I have no idea how many college football players or college students watch this sort of game.
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Well. As I always say.
Offense and defense wins championships.
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Well. As I always say.
Offense and defense wins championships.
Well you're half right. That's pretty good for you.
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Well. As I always say.
Offense and defense wins championships.
Well you're half right. That's pretty good for you.
Yep. Offense won that Championship.
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How good was Syracuse
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How good was Syracuse
Not good enough
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Well. As I always say.
Offense and defense wins championships.
Well you're half right. That's pretty good for you.
Yep. Offense won that Championship.
Most notably that Clemson had one and Alabama did not
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I feel like an old man for saying this but I have a hard time believing that anybody who is interested in this game was interested in that halftime.
Imagine Dragons is very popular among the current college students, so at least half the folks in the stadium were likely to be interested. I have no idea how many college football players or college students watch this sort of game.
Good point. It was not our grandfather’s college football game.
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How about that?
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Wow,
you like that!!
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Is it too soon to note the #1 seed has never won the Championship?
No
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Most people who heard that band imagine if they were real and could be shot by a real .38 caliber pistol, but I don’t own one, and my team just won the thingy...
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It’s so cute when everybody goes to bed and can’t stomach thebthe fucking grind.
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How good was Syracuse
[/quotHow good was Syracuse
They are good!!
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We had better players and they got out coached??
I would have run their RBs down our throat...
But they couldn’t get our boy, I like to think that was emotion over talent, but I think we were better, in the final result, they were out coached too, if they wervup 16, OVER, spot us OVER, period.
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I got a little excited about us smoking ALA...
so, yes.
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Alabama lost by 28; Notre.Dame by 27. Clearly Alabama, like Notre Dame, did not belong in the playoffs. Should have been Ohio State in the playoffs, despite Clemsoning against Purdue....
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Well. As I always say.
Offense and defense wins championships.
Well you're half right. That's pretty good for you.
Yep. Offense won that Championship.
The Clemson defense with their two interceptions and stuffing the Bama offense when it mattered won that championship. Holding Bama to only 4 YPC under their 5.2 ypc avg, no run longer than 15 yards. Holding the Bama offense to 30 points under their seasonal average. Clemson's offense while great merely did what they have done all year long. In fact the Tigers offense averaged 44.3 ppg and scored basically that same exact amount in this game.
Bama's defense failed. Clemson's defense was superb.
But feel free to be wrong and disagree. :-)
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I got a little excited about us smoking ALA...
so, yes.
Totally understandable old friend. It's your day have at it. :-)
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Alabama lost by 28; Notre.Dame by 27. Clearly Alabama, like Notre Dame, did not belong in the playoffs. Should have been Ohio State in the playoffs, despite Clemsoning against Purdue....
Once again it was Clemson's defense that won that ND game as they manhandled and dominated the Irish. Venables is awesome.
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Defense yeah baby YEAH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLPWCLot74 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLPWCLot74)
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Defense yeah baby YEAH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLPWCLot74 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLPWCLot74)
Yup-that Clemson's D basically pitched a shut-out for 3 qtrs was pretty impressive and sucked the life out of Bama.
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Well. As I always say.
Offense and defense wins championships.
Well you're half right. That's pretty good for you.
Yep. Offense won that Championship.
The Clemson defense with their two interceptions and stuffing the Bama offense when it mattered won that championship. Holding Bama to only 4 YPC under their 5.2 ypc avg, no run longer than 15 yards. Holding the Bama offense to 30 points under their seasonal average. Clemson's offense while great merely did what they have done all year long. In fact the Tigers offense averaged 44.3 ppg and scored basically that same exact amount in this game.
Bama's defense failed. Clemson's defense was superb.
But feel free to be wrong and disagree. :-)
ClemSIN's offensive dominance put pressure on the Alabama offense that caused them to make.changes to their game plan that served Bama poorly. Do you think Bama tries a fake field goal if the score is 21 - 16? It is one of those things, like an onside kick, that you suspect Bama players have a merely theoretical knowledge of. If it is.a.close game, do they eschew field goals in the second half? 37 offensive points against Ala fucking bama? Who does that?
Defense wins championships the same way offense wins championships. You need enough offense to win with your defense and enough defense to win with your offense. ClemSIN was dominant on both sides of the ball. They had offense and defense to spare. To say one side of the ball won this championship does a tremendous disservice to the other side.
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Alabama lost by 28; Notre.Dame by 27. Clearly Alabama, like Notre Dame, did not belong in the playoffs. Should have been Ohio State in the playoffs, despite Clemsoning against Purdue....
Once again it was Clemson's defense that won that ND game as they manhandled and dominated the Irish. Venables is awesome.
They also scored 30 against a pretty good defense.
As to Venable I would point out ClemSIN had the single best unit in CFB this year in its defensive line. Much easier to game 0lan when you do not have to blitz to get consistent pressure or cheat safeties up.
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
Maryland's next head coach. He of the 3-31 career record.
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That game flipped in the 2nd qtr when after a 3 and out, Bama drove to the 1, but Clemson held Bama to a FG.
I thought a TD there and the game might have taken a differnt path
After the stop, Clemson answers with a TD
and then a pick
and they score again.
my two scents: game over in the 2nd qtr on Clemson's D.
YMMV
But yes the kid from Dazed and Confused is special
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Key Stat to Clemson’s dominance: 10 of 15 third down conversions.
On nine of those attempts the Tigers faced third and SEVEN and made them ALL on pass plays. Trevor Lawrence was unbelievable throwing for 240 yards on third down making 7 first downs and two touchdowns!
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Locksley is a local guy who somehow has developed a reputation a recruiting guru. Aside from his lousy career record, he's also had some ethical issues pop-up in the past. Perhaps he's past that.
They have Butch Jones coming into join him. I guess as OC.
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Locksley is a local guy who somehow has developed a reputation a recruiting guru. Aside from his lousy career record, he's also had some ethical issues pop-up in the past. Perhaps he's past that.
They have Butch Jones coming into join him. I guess as OC.
Did a bang up job recruiting for the Lobos.
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Clemson's blowout win resulted in the lowest overnight TV ratings of the CFP era. The ratings were off about 12% from last year probably due in large part to the lop sided score. In broader terms the average rating for the six rotation Bowls and the CG was about 8.5, approximately 14% less than the inaugural season of 2014.
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As expected;
SAN JOSE, Calif. -- There will be no immediate changes to the four-team format of the College Football Playoff, as university presidents and conference commissioners decided at a joint annual meeting on Monday morning at the Fairmont Hotel that they were in "unanimous agreement that the playoff has been a tremendous success."
"As far as expanding the number of teams in the playoff, it's way too soon -- much too soon -- to know if that is even a possibility," Mississippi State president Mark Keenum, chair of the playoff board of managers, said in a prepared statement.
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Well. As I always say.
Offense and defense wins championships.
Well you're half right. That's pretty good for you.
Yep. Offense won that Championship.
The Clemson defense with their two interceptions and stuffing the Bama offense when it mattered won that championship. Holding Bama to only 4 YPC under their 5.2 ypc avg, no run longer than 15 yards. Holding the Bama offense to 30 points under their seasonal average. Clemson's offense while great merely did what they have done all year long. In fact the Tigers offense averaged 44.3 ppg and scored basically that same exact amount in this game.
Bama's defense failed. Clemson's defense was superb.
But feel free to be wrong and disagree. :-)
ClemSIN's offensive dominance put pressure on the Alabama offense that caused them to make.changes to their game plan that served Bama poorly. Do you think Bama tries a fake field goal if the score is 21 - 16? It is one of those things, like an onside kick, that you suspect Bama players have a merely theoretical knowledge of. If it is.a.close game, do they eschew field goals in the second half? 37 offensive points against Ala fucking bama? Who does that?
Defense wins championships the same way offense wins championships. You need enough offense to win with your defense and enough defense to win with your offense. ClemSIN was dominant on both sides of the ball. They had offense and defense to spare. To say one side of the ball won this championship does a tremendous disservice to the other side.
You keep tellin yersef that brudder. :-)
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
Maryland's next head coach. He of the 3-31 career record.
LOL
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Media verdicts after watching the game last night:
The story of the game was the struggles Alabama's defense experienced going up against Trevor Lawrence and Clemson’s terrific offense
Clemson had mercy, or it would've set the scoring record vs. a Saban Alabama Team
Tigers CRUSH Tide to reclaim throne
Alabama experiences complete collapse in worst game of Saban era
Clemson Won the National Title by Humiliating Nick Saban
Clemson dominated — yes, dominated — Alabama for the national title
Clemson routs Alabama 44-16 to win national title
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Kliff Kingsbury to the Arizona Cardinals
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Alabama lost by 28; Notre.Dame by 27. Clearly Alabama, like Notre Dame, did not belong in the playoffs. Should have been Ohio State in the playoffs, despite Clemsoning against Purdue....
They would have lost by 29
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
I though the same thing. Presumably Saban will fire the OC over the next week or so. Maybe he'll try to kire Kliff Kingsbury away from Arizona. ...and Kliff will take the interview
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Matchup Tigers. TIDE
1st Downs 21 23
3rd down efficiency 10-15 4-13
4th down efficiency 1-1 3-6
Total Yards 482 443
Passing 347 295
Comp-Att 20-32 22-36
Yards per pass 10.8 8.2
Interceptions thrown 0 2
Rushing 135 148
Rushing Attempts 31 37
Yards per rush 4.4 4.0
Penalties 1-12 6-60
Turnovers 0 2
Fumbles lost 0 0
Interceptions thrown 0 2
Possession. Bama
Footnote: As much as the haters want to say THE Tide was dominated....
The Stats don't quite support that assertion.
The SCOREBOARD doesn't always reflect everything.
Hence the often-said: "And it really wasn't that close", as the scoreboard might suggest.
Works the other way, too.
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
If you watched the game, 44-16 captured the essence of Clemson's domination.
Bama won the 1st down battle?
BFD.
How many first downs, yards or TOP did Clemson forego due to the pick-6 and the other interception that put the ball at mid-field?
two or three stats are telling,
3rd down efficincy (Bama's D couldn't get Clemson off the field, and Bama offense couldn't stay on) and that Bama went for it 6-times on 4th dowm.
And turnovers.
Clemson 2-0.
Clemson milked the last 10 minutes of that game and easily could have hung another 7 or more points on a totally beaten Bama.
that game was all but over in the 2nd qtr.
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So is the one you omit -penalties.
7 penalties in all, 6 against the Tide.....hardly a balance and hardly the average number of penalties called in college games.
So it was a clean, hard fought game, and virtually penalty free game and you aren't happy about that?
LOL
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Pretty competitive Bowl Season
No Conference Stands out but a few might want some do-overs.
American Athletic Conference
Record: 2-5 (28%)
Wins: Tulane, Cincinnati
Losses: South Florida, Memphis, Houston, Temple, UCF
Atlantic Coast Conference
Record: 6-5 (54.5%)
Wins: Wake Forest, Duke, Syracuse, Virginia, Clemson (vs. Notre Dame), Clemson (vs. Alabama)
Losses: Georgia Tech, Miami, Virginia Tech, Pitt, North Carolina State
NOTE: Boston College's bowl game against Boise State has been canceled.
Big Ten Conference
Record: 5-4(55%)
Wins: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Iowa, Ohio State
Losses: Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State
Big 12 Conference
Record: 4-3 (57%)
Wins: TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas
Losses: West Virginia, Iowa State, Oklahoma
HIGHLIGHTS: Alabama wins shootout with Oklahoma
Conference USA
Record: 4-2(66%)
Wins: UAB, Marshall, Florida International, Louisiana Tech
Losses: Middle Tennessee State, North Texas
Mid-American Conference
Record: 1-5 (20%)
Wins: Ohio
Losses: Eastern Michigan, Northern Illinois, Toledo, Western Michigan, Buffalo
Mountain West Conference
Record: 3-2 (60%)
Wins: Fresno State, Utah State, Nevada
Losses: San Diego State, Hawaii
NOTE: Boise State's bowl game against Boston College has been canceled.
Pac-12 Conference
Record: 3-4 (43%)
Wins: Washington State, Stanford, Oregon
Losses: Arizona State, California, Utah, Washington
Southeastern Conference
Record: 6-6 (50%)
Wins: Auburn, Florida, Alabama (vs. Oklahoma), Kentucky, LSU, Texas A&M
Losses: Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Missouri, Mississippi State, Georgia, Alabama (vs. Clemson)
Sun Belt Conference
Record: 3-2 (60%)
Wins: Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Troy
Losses: Louisiana, Arkansas State
Independents
Record: 2-1 (67%)
Wins: BYU, Army
Losses: Notre Dame
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Matchup Tigers. TIDE
1st Downs 21 23
3rd down efficiency 10-15 4-13
4th down efficiency 1-1 3-6
Total Yards 482 443
Passing 347 295
Comp-Att 20-32 22-36
Yards per pass 10.8 8.2
Interceptions thrown 0 2
Rushing 135 148
Rushing Attempts 31 37
Yards per rush 4.4 4.0
Penalties 1-12 6-60
Turnovers 0 2
Fumbles lost 0 0
Interceptions thrown 0 2
Possession. Bama
Footnote: As much as the haters want to say THE Tide was dominated....
The Stats don't quite support that assertion.
The SCOREBOARD doesn't always reflect everything.
Hence the often-said: "And it really wasn't that close", as the scoreboard might suggest.
Works the other way, too.
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
If you watched the game, 44-16 captured the essence of Clemson's domination.
Bama won the 1st down battle?
BFD.
How many first downs, yards or TOP did Clemson forego due to the pick-6 and the other interception that put the ball at mid-field?
two or three stats are telling,
3rd down efficincy (Bama's D couldn't get Clemson off the field, and Bama offense couldn't stay on) and that Bama went for it 6-times on 4th dowm.
And turnovers.
Clemson 2-0.
Clemson milked the last 10 minutes of that game and easily could have hung another 7 or more points on a totally beaten Bama.
that game was all but over in the 2nd qtr.
Banks, you damn the stats, then selectively pick 2 or 3.
The ones you cite are telling,
So is the one you omit -penalties.
7 penalties in all, 6 against the Tide.....hardly a balance and hardly the average number of penalties called in college games.
Clemson won.
Deej
I don't damn the statistics, but I do damn a conclusion that tells me those stats indicate a close game
It wasn't close,
I noted the stats that to me were more indicative of the game that was played and offered my conclusions.
Penalties?
Clemson was the more disciplined team too and played a cleaner game, and were flagged less.
They were the more poised team last night, and typically the more penalzized team loses.
And I hate flags, I'm in the let 'em play column, call it if its obviopus.
But if you're insinuating that the refs had an undue influence on that game,
Don't.
thats the loser's lament.
Clemson destroyed Bama, fair and square.
and Happy New Year
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The SCOREBOARD doesn't always reflect everything.
That is true...but it does reflect the most important thing.
You left out goal line and fake field goal defensive stands in your stats also...that one was pretty telling
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Media verdicts after watching the game last night:
The story of the game was the struggles Alabama's defense experienced going up against Trevor Lawrence and Clemson’s terrific offense
Clemson had mercy, or it would've set the scoring record vs. a Saban Alabama Team
Tigers CRUSH Tide to reclaim throne
Alabama experiences complete collapse in worst game of Saban era
Clemson Won the National Title by Humiliating Nick Saban
Clemson dominated — yes, dominated — Alabama for the national title
Clemson routs Alabama 44-16 to win national title
Jim, the Trump Lover, praises the media! (As usual without attribution.)
Can't imagine the media wanting to hit back at Saban for his "rat poison" comments or his
Close friendship with Bill Belechik, another coach who doesn't quite respect the press.
Can't imagine media using headlines to attract readers or sell their product.
Can't imagine a writer confusing "mercy" with showing respect. (I am pretty sure that was Dabo's intention.)
This game could so easily have been a 30-20 affair, given 2 easy TD's for The Tigers.
"Tigers Turnback The Tide!" (That's my HEADLINE)
Sounds right to me.
:-)
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
I though the same thing. Presumably Saban will fire the OC over the next week or so. Maybe he'll try to kire Kliff Kingsbury away from Arizona. ...and Kliff will take the interview
Don't be bitter bro.
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
I though the same thing. Presumably Saban will fire the OC over the next week or so. Maybe he'll try to kire Kliff Kingsbury away from Arizona. ...and Kliff will take the interview
I think the Alabama OC will simply disappear in shame and hide himself somewhere no one would e er think to look for him. Like College Park Maryland.
Rumor I saw was branch of the Dantonio Coaching Tree Dan Enos was in line for the OC spot. A branch of the Dantonio tree would be a twig from the Saban tree.
Hey, KK lasted longer as your OC than Temple's head coach lasted. That's something.
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
I though the same thing. Presumably Saban will fire the OC over the next week or so. Maybe he'll try to kire Kliff Kingsbury away from Arizona. ...and Kliff will take the interview
I think the Alabama OC will simply disappear in shame and hide himself somewhere no one would e er think to look for him. Like College Park Maryland.
Rumor I saw was branch of the Dantonio Coaching Tree Dan Enos was in line for the OC spot. A branch of the Dantonio tree would be a twig from the Saban tree.
Hey, KK lasted longer as your OC than Temple's head coach lasted. That's something.
Well, Enos is the Alabama QB Coach. And obviously a quite good one. Enos also played for Saban at Mich. State but I don't understand what his Dantonio connection is Enos was head coach at Central Michigan and then at Arkansas as OC under Bielema. When Bielema got fired he was hired at Michigan but Saban quickly stole him away .
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
I though the same thing. Presumably Saban will fire the OC over the next week or so. Maybe he'll try to kire Kliff Kingsbury away from Arizona. ...and Kliff will take the interview
Michael Locksley was hired by Maryland over a month ago. He won the Broyles Award as the top college assistant coach in the country this year and Saban called him the best recruiter he has ever had. Which is the main reason he stayed through the recruiting season. I think it is silly the number of people dumping on an OC after a 14-1 season and the offensive statistics he delivered throughout the year after a loss in the National Championship Game to the best team in the land.
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
I though the same thing. Presumably Saban will fire the OC over the next week or so. Maybe he'll try to kire Kliff Kingsbury away from Arizona. ...and Kliff will take the interview
I think the Alabama OC will simply disappear in shame and hide himself somewhere no one would e er think to look for him. Like College Park Maryland.
Rumor I saw was branch of the Dantonio Coaching Tree Dan Enos was in line for the OC spot. A branch of the Dantonio tree would be a twig from the Saban tree.
Hey, KK lasted longer as your OC than Temple's head coach lasted. That's something.
Well, Enos is the Alabama QB Coach. And obviously a quite good one. Enos also played for Saban at Mich. State but I don't understand what his Dantonio connection is Enos was head coach at Central Michigan and then at Arkansas as OC under Bielema. When Bielema got fired he was hired at Michigan but Saban quickly stole him away .
Coached under Dantonio at Cinci and MSU before Central.
He did not play for Saban at MSU. Saban was a defensive coach, not head coach when both were st MSU.
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My "dumping" on Locksley has little to do with last night's game.
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Who was calling the plays for Bama ? I doubt they got on the plane back home and if he did I wonder if he got off.
I though the same thing. Presumably Saban will fire the OC over the next week or so. Maybe he'll try to kire Kliff Kingsbury away from Arizona. ...and Kliff will take the interview
I think the Alabama OC will simply disappear in shame and hide himself somewhere no one would e er think to look for him. Like College Park Maryland.
Rumor I saw was branch of the Dantonio Coaching Tree Dan Enos was in line for the OC spot. A branch of the Dantonio tree would be a twig from the Saban tree.
Hey, KK lasted longer as your OC than Temple's head coach lasted. That's something.
Well, Enos is the Alabama QB Coach. And obviously a quite good one. Enos also played for Saban at Mich. State but I don't understand what his Dantonio connection is Enos was head coach at Central Michigan and then at Arkansas as OC under Bielema. When Bielema got fired he was hired at Michigan but Saban quickly stole him away .
Coached under Dantonio at Cinci and MSU before Central.
Thanks
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My "dumping" on Locksley has little to do with last night's game.
What is your beef with Locksley?
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My "dumping" on Locksley has little to do with last night's game.
What is your beef with Locksley?
He has a sub Hue Jackson head coaching record. Also, had anger control issues.
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My "dumping" on Locksley has little to do with last night's game.
What is your beef with Locksley?
He has a sub Hue Jackson head coaching record. Also, had anger control issues.
Yep. Maryland needs a squeaky-clean coach at this point.
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Footnote: As much as the haters want to say THE Tide was dominated....
The Stats don't quite support that assertion.
The SCOREBOARD doesn't always reflect everything.
Hence the often-said: "And it really wasn't that close", as the scoreboard might suggest.
Works the other way, too.
I don't recall saying the stats support a "close game", I said they don't support "total and complete domination" that the Bama-haters want to see.
Deej
I'm not a Bama hater, or SEC hater, (I still think they are the best conferenece in the country and have been for most of the past decade or so)
I just watched the game.
And i wanted a close competitive game and we got one for 1+ qtr.
I'm disagrreing with your post that the scoreboard told a different tale than the stats.
As noted, they really didn't.
IMO 44-16 captured the nature of the game, and Clemson's superiority.
Bama with one of the best offenses and QBs in the country got blanked for the final 3 qtrs.
that shit just don't happen.
Clemson kicked their ass.
And if not for the charity and sportsmanship of Dabo, and taking it easy in the 4th qtr., Bama could have had 50+ dropped on them.
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My "dumping" on Locksley has little to do with last night's game.
What is your beef with Locksley?
He has a sub Hue Jackson head coaching record. Also, had anger control issues.
Are you answering for YankGuy?
My take, without much research, admittedly, is anyone who had the power and the success he had under Nick Saban, who also kept him on despite conflicting responsibilities, and with Maryland ties, is a pretty good investment.
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My "dumping" on Locksley has little to do with last night's game.
What is your beef with Locksley?
He has a sub Hue Jackson head coaching record. Also, had anger control issues.
Yep. Maryland needs a squeaky-clean coach at this point.
Where is Lockley not squeaky clean?
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Ah geez. Look it up. If you're good with that and good with 3-31 then I have no argument.
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Ah geez. Look it up. If you're good with that and good with 3-31 then I have no argument.
I have no reason to defend or criticize Lockley. 3-31 speaks for itself but it is New Mexico, a program that has never been good and still isn't.
He has a bad coaching record (so far) so is that your definition as not 'squeaky clean"?
I thought you meant that in a different context.
Anyway, he impressed Nick Saban and a lot of his peers for his work at Alabama and if he brings Jalen Hurts to Maryland maybe the Terps will be a lot better.
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Squeaky-clean refers to a different context than W/L. As I said, look it up.
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The SCOREBOARD doesn't always reflect everything.
That is true...but it does reflect the most important thing.
You left out goal line and fake field goal defensive stands in your stats also...that one was pretty telling
Some, not many, think the journey is more important than the destination.
“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.”
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Squeaky-clean refers to a different context than W/L. As I said, look it up.
I have. And I still don't know what you are referring to other than a suspension for an altercation with a coach at New Mexico.
But if it is a problem for you so be it. You have more stake in the Terps than anyone else here. Maryland, though, seems to be very happy to land Locksley, who does have roots, and is a proven developer of offensive talent.
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Thanks for the well wishes and like the jokes, when tlaw was super-confident seeming after the ND game I was like, this kid is wired differently or he is getting ready to get smacked in the mouth, bad.
At 19, better grasp on how good he is than anyone else.
Pretty great.
That was why people love sports, unexpected, are you not entertained!?!
Maybe ratings were lower than when we blew out tosu in the semis year one, nobody cares about ratings, duh, Netflix, but if you like football you were tuned in...so if you don’t like the product go watch fucking westworld.
I like Christian Wilkins more than almost any other CLEM player, stayed, was there for the changing of the guard, great kid.
Presumptive 1 and 2 flipped last night, and that is huge for us.
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Maybe ratings were lower than when we blew out tosu in the semis year one, nobody cares about ratings, duh, Netflix, but if you like football you were tuned in...so if you don’t like the product go watch fucking westworld.
Clemson was not around in year one of the CFP which happens to be the high-water mark of TV ratings.
Congrats on the Tigers' success and the annihilation of Alabama which was, in totality, the effort of a great offense and defense.
But 3 National Championships is still worth only a footnote in the list of greatness in college football.
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Maybe ratings were lower than when we blew out tosu in the semis year one, nobody cares about ratings, duh, Netflix, but if you like football you were tuned in...so if you don’t like the product go watch fucking westworld.
Clemson was not around in year one of the CFP which happens to be the high-water mark of TV ratings.
Congrats on the Tigers' success and the annihilation of Alabama which was, in totality, the effort of a great offense and defense.
But 3 National Championships is still worth only a footnote in the list of greatness in college football.
Not to misinterpret but what I think Jim is saying is Princeton is looking over its shoulder at Yale, but Bama in 3rd place got some catching up to do.
But Clemson's 2 championships in 3 years, is pretty impressive and bears some watching.
Princeton is on notice, a new Alpha Tiger is in the jungle.
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Don't be bitter bro.
Why not?
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Michael Locksley was hired by Maryland over a month ago.
Yeah...saw that yesterday after I posted that. Then it goes back to a question of whether Saban should have just let him go before the game. Which he did for Kiffin - but he lost that game, so he figured he would try it the other way I guess.
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Michael Locksley was hired by Maryland over a month ago.
Yeah...saw that yesterday after I posted that. Then it goes back to a question of whether Saban should have just let him go before the game. Which he did for Kiffin - but he lost that game, so he figured he would try it the other way I guess.
I think his staying through the Championship was predicated on his recruiting prowess. There was nothing wrong with the 'Bama offensive strategy, it was the Clemson offense that turned the game into a rout.
By the way, Mark Schlabach of CBS Sports predict Clay Helton will be fired at USC in 2019 and replaced by Urban Meyer.
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By the way, Mark Schlabach of CBS Sports predict Clay Helton will be fired at USC in 2019 and replaced by Urban Meyer.
A lot of people here have been saying that since the day he announced he was retiring. I think that is an unlikely scenario.
I feel like Clay probably should have been let go at the end of this last season. So, now we have to let 2019 play out. First step replace Kliff with Major Applewhite or someone like that and see how it goes. WOuld be difficult to fire Helton if he wins 10 games next year.
Even if he is terminated, I doubt if Meyer would be offered...much less that he would accept if he were offered.
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Michael Locksley was hired by Maryland over a month ago.
Yeah...saw that yesterday after I posted that. Then it goes back to a question of whether Saban should have just let him go before the game. Which he did for Kiffin - but he lost that game, so he figured he would try it the other way I guess.
I think his staying through the Championship was predicated on his recruiting prowess. There was nothing wrong with the 'Bama offensive strategy, it was the Clemson offense DEFENSE that turned the game into a rout.
By the way, Mark Schlabach of CBS Sports predict Clay Helton will be fired at USC in 2019 and replaced by Urban Meyer.
Yep.
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Don't be bitter bro.
Why not?
It doesn't suit you.
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Maybe ratings were lower than when we blew out tosu in the semis year one, nobody cares about ratings, duh, Netflix, but if you like football you were tuned in...so if you don’t like the product go watch fucking westworld.
Clemson was not around in year one of the CFP which happens to be the high-water mark of TV ratings.
Congrats on the Tigers' success and the annihilation of Alabama which was, in totality, the effort of a great offense and defense.
But 3 National Championships is still worth only a footnote in the list of greatness in college football.
Not to misinterpret but what I think Jim is saying is Princeton is looking over its shoulder at Yale, but Bama in 3rd place got some catching up to do.
But Clemson's 2 championships in 3 years, is pretty impressive and bears some watching.
Princeton is on notice, a new Alpha Tiger is in the jungle.
I've already got Bama penciled inked in to the CFP CG game next year.
It's all about reloading. Both Clemson and the Tide lose a lot of starters. Clemson loses what? Their entire DL and most of their OL? It'll be tough coming up with anything anywhere's near as good as that DL. But then Venables is a weapon all by himself.
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By the way, Mark Schlabach of CBS Sports predict Clay Helton will be fired at USC in 2019 and replaced by Urban Meyer.
A lot of people here have been saying that since the day he announced he was retiring. I think that is an unlikely scenario.
I feel like Clay probably should have been let go at the end of this last season. So, now we have to let 2019 play out. First step replace Kliff with Major Applewhite or someone like that and see how it goes. WOuld be difficult to fire Helton if he wins 10 games next year.
Even if he is terminated, I doubt if Meyer would be offered...much less that he would accept if he were offered.
The Cuse has a pretty good head coach. What he could do with the talent there at Trojantown.
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How else to explain overcoming a massive talent gap with CLEM and being the next most competitive team we have faced other than ALA. I know the rest of the last 2 seasons may not reflect those 2 “outperforms” but is still a remarkable footnote if my recollection of the 2017 game is correct.
The problem with the USC job is that one of our players gave a recruiting shoutout to the west coast that will undoubtably have a resounding impact.
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Don't be bitter bro.
Why not?
It doesn't suit you.
I have a lot of suits my man
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The problem with the USC job is that one of our players gave a recruiting shoutout to the west coast that will undoubtably have a resounding impact.
explain please
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Don't be bitter bro.
Why not?
It doesn't suit you.
I have a lot of suits my man
:-)
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The problem with the USC job is that one of our players gave a recruiting shoutout to the west coast that will undoubtably have a resounding impact.
explain please
Sounds like they are trying to swipe your superstars dude.
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The problem with the USC job is that one of our players gave a recruiting shoutout to the west coast that will undoubtably have a resounding impact.
explain please
Just one of our dudes shouting out after game: “Yo, west coast, if you want to see some real football...come to Clems(I)n...”
You wouldn’t have noticed if weren’t drinking in every single moment of the post champ, you prolly missed it...
Don’t think we moved many USC recruits, but ???
Joke, and I know you have a sense of humor, so there’s the explication of the joke, which is a riot...
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Just one of our dudes shouting out after game: “Yo, west coast, if you want to see some real football...come to Clems(I)n...”
You wouldn’t have noticed if weren’t drinking in every single moment of the post champ, you prolly missed it...
Don’t think we moved many USC recruits, but ???
Joke, and I know you have a sense of humor, so there’s the explication of the joke, which is a riot...
Thanks...I could tell somebody said something, but it was not clear from your original post...it almost sounded like a Clemson player said something positive about USC...and I knew that didn't sound right.
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Steve Sarkisian turns down Cardinals to rejoin Alabama:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25746669/steve-sarkisian-return-alabama-crimson-tide (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25746669/steve-sarkisian-return-alabama-crimson-tide)
If so it's official, Nicky has become unhinged.
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I read the ESPN article this morning and at first I found it to be further proof that the world has indeed gone crazy.
Thought Saban fired Sark...but after researching more it was supposedly Sark that left Saban. So this actually does make more sense:
#1) Saban's ego may not allow him to have been the one that was jilted, and/or
#2) Saban may be willing to try Kiffin 2.0 since he had the greatest success with Kiffin at the offensive helm, frankly. Question is will he actually change his dominating style with Sark - my guess is he is already steeling himself to try just that...but it probably won't work in the long term. Probably Saban just wants another year or two and then will retire. If the two of them can hold their collective s*** together for two years, there's a pretty good chance Sarkisian winds up as Head Coach of Alabama, IMO
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Tate Martell leaves tOSU for Miami Hurricanes
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It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future)
And here's the part that I've always said was arbitrary and gives the Committee an out on any final decision made. "The current selection committee protocol, which is used to determine the top four teams, requires that when "teams are comparable" the committee must consider championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition and comparative outcomes of common opponents. None of that criteria is weighted."
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Jalen Hurts to Oklahoma. I thought Maryland actually had a shot.
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It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future)
Vladimir and Estrogen are already in line for tickets to the expanded playoffs.
And here's the part that I've always said was arbitrary and gives the Committee an out on any final decision made.
An out for what?
"The current selection committee protocol, which is used to determine the top four teams, requires that when "teams are comparable" the committee must consider championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition and comparative outcomes of common opponents. None of that criteria is weighted."
So what?
The decision this year was the fourth spot. Oklahoma was a champion Georgia was not, both teams are power five teams who did not play each other. A no brainer.
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Do these people (or robots) literally post one of these in every forum? I rarely go on any of the others anymore. Hell I rarely come on this one anymore...
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Jalen Hurts to Oklahoma. I thought Maryland actually had a shot.
When I saw that Austin Kendall had entered the transfer portal last week as a graduate and Hurts being in Norman Sunday I should have connected the dots.
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It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future)
Vladimir and Estrogen are already in line for tickets to the expanded playoffs.
And here's the part that I've always said was arbitrary and gives the Committee an out on any final decision made.
An out for what?
"The current selection committee protocol, which is used to determine the top four teams, requires that when "teams are comparable" the committee must consider championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition and comparative outcomes of common opponents. None of that criteria is weighted."
So what?
The decision this year was the fourth spot. Oklahoma was a champion Georgia was not, both teams are power five teams who did not play each other. A no brainer.
Maybe in your limited analytical world it's a no brainer.
As to the first part, you have never shown even a rudimentary ability to think outside the box. And that dumbass response just reinforces that fact.
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Do these people (or robots) literally post one of these in every forum? I rarely go on any of the others anymore. Hell I rarely come on this one anymore...
The infection is worldwide.
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Tosh Lupoi leaving Alabama; Butch Jones back for 2019 season
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25780861/tosh-lupoi-leaving-alabama-take-cleveland-browns-job (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25780861/tosh-lupoi-leaving-alabama-take-cleveland-browns-job)
Nicky is used to losing both players and coaches to multiple departures. But this year the coaching side attrition is epic.
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It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future)
Vladimir and Estrogen are already in line for tickets to the expanded playoffs.
And here's the part that I've always said was arbitrary and gives the Committee an out on any final decision made.
An out for what?
"The current selection committee protocol, which is used to determine the top four teams, requires that when "teams are comparable" the committee must consider championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition and comparative outcomes of common opponents. None of that criteria is weighted."
So what?
The decision this year was the fourth spot. Oklahoma was a champion Georgia was not, both teams are power five teams who did not play each other. A no brainer.
Maybe in your limited analytical world it's a no brainer.
As to the first part, you have never shown even a rudimentary ability to think outside the box. And that dumbass response just reinforces that fact.
Id be more than glad to think outside of of the box but you can never explain what you want to change or accomplish.
What is the 'out' in your mind that the Committee is secretly angling for? Their job is to set up a championship game matching the top two teams and they have each the of the five years of the CFB.
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It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25768492/college-football-playoff-expand-now-in-future)
Vladimir and Estrogen are already in line for tickets to the expanded playoffs.
And here's the part that I've always said was arbitrary and gives the Committee an out on any final decision made.
An out for what?
"The current selection committee protocol, which is used to determine the top four teams, requires that when "teams are comparable" the committee must consider championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition and comparative outcomes of common opponents. None of that criteria is weighted."
So what?
The decision this year was the fourth spot. Oklahoma was a champion Georgia was not, both teams are power five teams who did not play each other. A no brainer.
Maybe in your limited analytical world it's a no brainer.
As to the first part, you have never shown even a rudimentary ability to think outside the box. .
Id be more than glad to think outside of of the box but you can never explain what you want to change or accomplish.
What is the 'out' in your mind that the Committee is secretly angling for? Their job is to set up a championship game matching the top two teams and they have each the of the five years of the CFB.
And that dumbass response just reinforces that fact
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Why we need targeting rules.
With youth participation rates continuing to fall, the insurance crisis adds another layer of uncertainty to the future of America's No. 1 sport. Insurance companies, which earn billions of dollars each year by taking on risk, are increasingly reluctant to bet on football and other sports associated with traumatic brain injuries. Some insurance industry executives compare the issue to asbestos, an occupational hazard that has cost insurers at least $100 billion. Traumatic brain injury "is an emerging latent exposure the likes of which the insurance industry has not seen in decades," Joe Cellura, president of North American casualty at Allied World, wrote in a blog post last year for the website Risk & Insurance. Cellura declined to comment for this story.
"Basically, the world has left the marketplace," Alex Fairly, CEO of the Fairly Group, an Amarillo, Texas-based risk management firm whose clients include the NFL and Major League Baseball, told Outside the Lines. "If you're football, hockey or soccer, the insurance business doesn't want you."
http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/25776964/insurance-market-football-evaporating-causing-major-threat-nfl-pop-warner-colleges-espn (http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/25776964/insurance-market-football-evaporating-causing-major-threat-nfl-pop-warner-colleges-espn)
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Nicky is used to losing both players and coaches to multiple departures. But this year the coaching side attrition is epic.
That was the beginning of the end for Pete Carroll era at USC. I think Saban has done a much better job of building a coach in waiting pipeline with all the analysts, etc. Pretty masterful actually.
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Nicky is used to losing both players and coaches to multiple departures. But this year the coaching side attrition is epic.
That was the beginning of the end for Pete Carroll era at USC. I think Saban has done a much better job of building a coach in waiting pipeline with all the analysts, etc. Pretty masterful actually.
He's taking a pretty big hit. We'll have to wait and see who he brings in I suppose.
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Coupled with James' post about arrrggh targeting here's another disturbing trend.
Record 135 forgo college eligibility to enter NFL draft
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25795098/record-135-forgo-college-eligibility-enter-nfl-draft (http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25795098/record-135-forgo-college-eligibility-enter-nfl-draft)
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Coupled with James' post about arrrggh targeting here's another disturbing trend.
Record 135 forgo college eligibility to enter NFL draft
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25795098/record-135-forgo-college-eligibility-enter-nfl-draft (http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25795098/record-135-forgo-college-eligibility-enter-nfl-draft)
They ain't come to play SCHOOL!
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They don’t call it SHOW-Friends...
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That flat belly fix thing would be good for Jimmy boy cause he's full of shit
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That flat belly fix thing would be good for Jimmy boy cause he's full of shit
Bad day?
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They ain't come to play SCHOOL!
He was always good for a chuckle
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That flat belly fix thing would be good for Jimmy boy cause he's full of shit
Bad day?
Bad Century or a bad batch of Gordon’s
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Better than the paint they sell in your joint...
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It has been interesting to digest the the repuurcussions of the championship, locally, for curious, it’s been nice.
My take, is that after tlaw is either out his tree, or basically, not...
So, after the ND game, I said he was either operating with the confidence of a high school quarterback who had just won the state championship, or wired a different way.
Turns out dude is wired a different way. I thought that BAMA was going to punch him in the mouth. But, he is wired a different way.
I was shocked.
Locally, Carolina fans, or tUSC, say that they put it on us better than BAMA, dude played like sh!t in the BELK bowl, but so what??
He threw for more yardage than almost anybody this year.
And hell yes he did. Dylan Thompson beat us a few years ago and I said it would be the best game he ever will play, and that was true, he won.
Before we won handily, I was scared it would happen again, but that performance leaves COCKFAN going, we gave y’all just as much as ALA.
It’s true.
We may not have been similarly motivated, but who cares, it’s great for college football, and just great for the barber shop and lunch counter here, awesome for college football.
No point here, just to say, that the state of play in the college game is great, and, it’s fun to be a CLEM fan for a minute.
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Go on and hibernate bitches, I am out until the gate has game, get it together fellas...🦁🦁🦁
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USC hires North Texas offensive coordinator Graham Harrell to replace Kliff Kingsbury
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury)
Smart guy, knows his stuff. Good hire I think Scotty.
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USC hires North Texas offensive coordinator Graham Harrell to replace Kliff Kingsbury
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury)
Smart guy, knows his stuff. Good hire I think Scotty.
Hope he lasts longer than the last ex TTU qb you hired. Just in case, USC should have B. J. Symons and Billy Joe Tolliver.on speed dial.
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USC hires North Texas offensive coordinator Graham Harrell to replace Kliff Kingsbury
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury)
Smart guy, knows his stuff. Good hire I think Scotty.
Hope he lasts longer than the last ex TTU qb you hired. Just in case, USC should have B. J. Symons and Billy Joe Tolliver.on speed dial.
Well it wouldn't really take much to last longer than Kingsbury. ;-)
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USC hires North Texas offensive coordinator Graham Harrell to replace Kliff Kingsbury
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury)
Smart guy, knows his stuff. Good hire I think Scotty.
Hope he lasts longer than the last ex TTU qb you hired. Just in case, USC should have B. J. Symons and Billy Joe Tolliver.on speed dial.
Well it wouldn't really take much to last longer than Kingsbury. ;-)
They could have hired Manny Diaz.
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USC hires North Texas offensive coordinator Graham Harrell to replace Kliff Kingsbury
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury)
Smart guy, knows his stuff. Good hire I think Scotty.
Hope he lasts longer than the last ex TTU qb you hired. Just in case, USC should have B. J. Symons and Billy Joe Tolliver.on speed dial.
Well it wouldn't really take much to last longer than Kingsbury. ;-)
They could have hired Manny Diaz.
Or you.
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USC hires North Texas offensive coordinator Graham Harrell to replace Kliff Kingsbury
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury)
Smart guy, knows his stuff. Good hire I think Scotty.
Hope he lasts longer than the last ex TTU qb you hired. Just in case, USC should have B. J. Symons and Billy Joe Tolliver.on speed dial.
Well it wouldn't really take much to last longer than Kingsbury. ;-)
They could have hired Manny Diaz.
Or you.
Even at my worst job I outlasted Manny Diaz.
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USC hires North Texas offensive coordinator Graham Harrell to replace Kliff Kingsbury
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25874480/usc-hires-north-texas-offensive-coordinator-graham-harrell-replace-kliff-kingsbury)
Smart guy, knows his stuff. Good hire I think Scotty.
Hope he lasts longer than the last ex TTU qb you hired. Just in case, USC should have B. J. Symons and Billy Joe Tolliver.on speed dial.
Well it wouldn't really take much to last longer than Kingsbury. ;-)
They could have hired Manny Diaz.
Or you.
Even at my worst job I outlasted Manny Diaz.
Elbanites are doggedly stubborn if anything.
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This I think is an incredibly good hire by Orgeron. Kid reminds me of me when I was a younker. Back when Ben first flew his kite.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25870683/lsu-taps-saints-assistant-joe-brady-oversee-passing-game (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25870683/lsu-taps-saints-assistant-joe-brady-oversee-passing-game)
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USC hires North Texas offensive coordinator Graham Harrell to replace Kliff Kingsbury
Smart guy, knows his stuff. Good hire I think Scotty.
Not quite as splashy as the KK hire, but in the end it may be a much better one.
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Likely NCAA rule change next year regarding overtime.
If still tied after two possessions the teams to engage in a 2 point shootout.
The goal is to prevent long overtimes.
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Likely NCAA rule change next year regarding overtime.
If still tied after two possessions the teams to engage in a 2 point shootout.
The goal is to prevent long overtimes.
Wonder if that would work with me and Stevo?
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Likely NCAA rule change next year regarding overtime.
If still tied after two possessions the teams to engage in a 2 point shootout.
The goal is to prevent long overtimes.
Wonder if that would work with me and Stevo?
Well, since you have never even tied Whiskeypriest it is a moot point.
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Of course you're right.
In a blind squirrel sort of way.
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Likely NCAA rule change next year regarding overtime.
If still tied after two possessions the teams to engage in a 2 point shootout.
The goal is to prevent long overtimes.
I never understood what was wrong with ties.
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Likely NCAA rule change next year regarding overtime.
If still tied after two possessions the teams to engage in a 2 point shootout.
The goal is to prevent long overtimes.
I never understood what was wrong with ties.
Some schools I could name would deliberately play for them to advance their National Title aspirations in an underhanded way.
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Some schools I could name would deliberately play for them to advance their National Title aspirations in an underhanded way.
I don't think it was underhanded as such. it is just playing towards a purpose.
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Some schools I could name would deliberately play for them to advance their National Title aspirations in an underhanded way.
I don't think it was underhanded as such. it is just playing towards a purpose.
Or playing smart. Which is kinda the reason for going to college. ;-)
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Apologists for evil.
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There's a lawyer joke in there somewhere.
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If your Episteme is Off, that could be part of your problem...
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What problem?
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It's more of a generic expression
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What happened to everyone on NSD? Lost interest?
I'll take Kyle Ford over Bru McCoy anyday. Texas can deal with that Prima Donna. We're making a move toward substance over flash. (You say those kinds of things when your class ranking takes a nose dive)
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https://n.rivals.com/news/georgia-seizes-the-day-wins-second-straight-recruiting-title
(https://n.rivals.com/news/georgia-seizes-the-day-wins-second-straight-recruiting-title)
To me it looks like Bama is the clear winner here. Both have 3 five star. Bama has 21 four star and Georgia only 15. Georgia has 5 three star and Bama 3 three star. Add it up do the math. There is no way Georgia comes out on top here. Go in and add the individual points each player has and again, there is no way IMO Georgia comes out on top. Close yes, but no cigar.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/national-signing-day-2019-college-football-recruiting-rankings-key-commitments-and-moments/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/national-signing-day-2019-college-football-recruiting-rankings-key-commitments-and-moments/)
CBS's take on the final results with some key signings:
DE Khris Bogle (71): Committed to Florida
DB Christian Williams (160): Committed To Miami
WR George Pickens (24): Flipped to Georgia from Auburn
OG Doug Nester (106): Committed to Virginia Tech
DE Charles Moore (69): Committed to Auburn
RB Jerrion Ealy (29): Committed to Ole Miss
WR Mark-Antony Richards (90): Committed to Auburn
OG Enokk Vimahi (124): Committed to Ohio State
DB Kaiir Elam (48): Committed to Florida
ATH Devonta Lee (166): Committed to LSU
DT Ishmael Sopsher (47): Committed to Alabama
DT Jaquaze Sorrells (157): Committed to South Carolina
LB Daniel Heimuli (199): Committed to Washington
LB Henry To'oto'o (44): Committed to Tennessee
Dan Mullen has done very well with his first full season of recruiting. The biggest surprise to me was wresting in-state DE Khris Bogle the #71 away from Nick Saban. Mullen's overall class was a surprising( to some ) #9 on the team list. Bogle needs to get stronger at the point of attack IMO, but the speed and agility are already there. Diwun Black is going to be a good one for sure. Looked like a man among boys last year. Elam and Steele are of course special players. Impressed with Diabate and he'll need a year to put on some muscle just like Bogle. More later, I'm all footballed out. Need some down time.
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Bunch of 3s, two 4s - both from the same HS. A QB with the great name of Payton Thorne, who I will begin touring for the Heisman shortly. 30ish nationally. The usual.
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I'm sure the Locksley Era is off to a fantastic start!!!!!
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I'm sure the Locksley Era is off to a fantastic start!!!!!
60th nationally, 12th in the Big Whatever, just ahead of Rutgers. Fear the Turtle.
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It's all coming together nicely.
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A QB with the great name of Payton Thorne,
Can see the headlines now...
Payton, Thorne in side of Wolverines
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It's all coming together nicely.
Yes, genius plan: dominate Rutgers, avoid last place!
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Illinois better watch out!
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Fields was granted his exemption and can play right away for tOSU.
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Fields was granted his exemption and can play right away for tOSU.
College Football's version of free agency
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Mullen on the march:
https://n.rivals.com/news/ask-farrell-have-the-gators-taken-over-the-sunshine-state- (https://n.rivals.com/news/ask-farrell-have-the-gators-taken-over-the-sunshine-state-)
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A moderator on one of the SC boards proposed an 8 team playoff for the Pac12 title. Just Wow.
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Probably a Bruin fan.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25995031/todd-grantham-sticking-florida-considering-bengals-offer (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25995031/todd-grantham-sticking-florida-considering-bengals-offer)
Big win for Mullen's Gators.
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Some DL and OL Recruiting news:
https://n.rivals.com/news/national-signing-day-by-position-top-dl-classes (https://n.rivals.com/news/national-signing-day-by-position-top-dl-classes)
Saban is Saban, he stockpiles every year.
Cristobal is doing a very good job in Oregon. If he stays watch out for a resurgence of the Ducks.
Mullen is quietly building a monster IMO.
https://n.rivals.com/news/national-signing-day-by-position-top-ol-classes-3 (https://n.rivals.com/news/national-signing-day-by-position-top-ol-classes-3)
Once again, Nicky does what Nicky does.
Harbaugh has recruited the trenches on both sides of the rock nicely.
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I hadn't realized that the PAC had only one 5 star recruit this year. Cristobal from Oregon signed him.
https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-will-sec-continue-to-reel-in-majority-of-five-stars- (https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-will-sec-continue-to-reel-in-majority-of-five-stars-)
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https://n.rivals.com/news/national-signing-day-by-position-top-db-classes (https://n.rivals.com/news/national-signing-day-by-position-top-db-classes)
I'm surprised that Florida's DB class isn't mentioned with three players in the Top 25. Not to disparage any of the other teams on the list.
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I hadn't realized that the PAC had only one 5 star recruit this year. Cristobal from Oregon signed him.
https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-will-sec-continue-to-reel-in-majority-of-five-stars- (https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-will-sec-continue-to-reel-in-majority-of-five-stars-)
We miss our old status as the PAWCP league
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I hadn't realized that the PAC had only one 5 star recruit this year. Cristobal from Oregon signed him.
https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-will-sec-continue-to-reel-in-majority-of-five-stars- (https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-will-sec-continue-to-reel-in-majority-of-five-stars-)
We miss our old status as the PAWCP league
Looks can be deceiving Scotty.
SC's got three 3-star guys in your class that I think are way underrated. For instance Kenan Christon IMO is a player and if given the chance will prove it. The guy has a natural way of hitting the seams and enough speed to be very very dangerous. Tough guy to get your hands on. When you see Nick Saban give an offer to a three star from Cali you have to take pause. A couple of other 3-stars have the talent to really shine too IMO.
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Keep an eye on Briton Allen too.
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That's good feedback, Casey.
My hope is that we would start recruiting guys with heart and desire instead of five stars with a boatload of attitude. Maybe we did.
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Transfer portal was a dumb idea
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Jim Delaney to retire in 2020
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Jim Delaney to retire in 2020
Larry Scott might make a good replacement...
...please?
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Instead of Larry Scott going how about Urban renewal coming to LA?
https://n.rivals.com/news/ask-farrell-is-meyer-inching-toward-usc-with-l-a-based-tv-show- (https://n.rivals.com/news/ask-farrell-is-meyer-inching-toward-usc-with-l-a-based-tv-show-)
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Jim Delaney to retire in 2020
Larry Scott might make a good replacement...
...please?
Based 9n recent indictmemts,.should you be paying your non CFB coaches more? They seem to need the money.
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Jim Delaney to retire in 2020
Larry Scott might make a good replacement...
...please?
Based 9n recent indictmemts,.should you be paying your non CFB coaches more? They seem to need the money.
Some of the guys in the SEC seem to be giving it away without a problem. Well, nary a problem.
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We obviously pissed someone at the LA Times off. There were several schools involved, but by the second day all the news was focused on USC.
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This is why Dabo and Nicky are so successful. They go into a rival state and pull out the cream.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26267312/clemson-lands-another-coveted-ol-recruit-20 (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26267312/clemson-lands-another-coveted-ol-recruit-20)
And don't bet against Dabo on this one either.
https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-can-clemson-land-a-5-star-from-georgia-again- (https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-can-clemson-land-a-5-star-from-georgia-again-)
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Anybody know this lady?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Folt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Folt)
How was her reputation with the sports programs at UNC? I see at least she defended her school against the NZAA
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I love how part of her.defense was, yes, we committed academic fraud, but UNC created fake classes for everyone, not just athletes. Sounds like exactly the right person to take the USC crew team in hand.
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I love how part of her.defense was, yes, we committed academic fraud, but UNC created fake classes for everyone, not just athletes. Sounds like exactly the right person to take the USC crew team in hand.
Well, there are many who would prefer some sort of defense to just rolling over and hoping for the best - which is what we did. That didn't turn out so well either.
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I love how part of her.defense was, yes, we committed academic fraud, but UNC created fake classes for everyone, not just athletes. Sounds like exactly the right person to take the USC crew team in hand.
Everyone was doing it!
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Too quiet in here lately.
Time for some, as always, cutting edge Cappy analysis.
Texas and Head coach Tom Herman continue to do well on the recruiting trail. With the 2018 and 19 class the Horns have accumulated an enormous amount of football talent. Herman has particularly IMO done quite well in the DB part of the recruiting equation. Something that Saban was always exceptional at. And in the current environment of college football DB has become possibly the preeminent players on today's modern college defenses. It used to be that you'd see coaches building their defensive squad from the DL back. Those days are gone. Now the two most important positions in defensive football have to be your edge guys and your DBs. Not to say other position aren't also important, but with the mostly passing oriented offenses out there today. Stopping the short passing game is probably the most important aspect of today's defenses. In that vein Herman has recruited well. Of his top 2018 recruits 5 out of the first 7 players are defensive backs. Caden Stems, B.J. Foster, Jalen Green, and Anthony Cook are IMO one of the single greatest hauls of DB talent in a single recruiting cycle that I have ever seen. And if the Capster is impressed believe me you should be impressed. Throw in potential box safety DeMarvion Overshown a heat seeking sledgehammer and you've got yourself one wicked class of DBs. In the 2019 my lone shining light is is safety Tyler Owens. This cat can flat out fly for a player of his size. He's got a heads up find the hole and stuff it mentality yet has the speed to get to the edge quickly. Overshown plays too high IMO in the tackling part of his game, but that can be coached out of him. Marry this to several potential LB stars like Ayodele Adeoye other very good defensive players who I will touch on later and...
Overall IMO Herman will have a very VERY good defensive squad in the upcoming season. Something that has been very elusive for the Longhorns in the previous 5 or 6 years.
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I see Mark Dantonio did some switching in his coaching staff assignments.
Is Dantonio's staff shuffle the right answer? Usually this sort of thing never ends well. First there's the hurt feelings and egos to deal with. Next if a coach was subpar will he be any better at another job? Or, was it a case of this guy is just better. Or, was it a case of maybe someone was in over their head? Or something else altogether? Stevo?
Salem maybe has a more personal knowledge of Lewerke. But is that reason to hand over the offensive reins to him? Then again he can't do much worse than Bollman and Dave Warner did. But was their paltry offense a case of poor coaching or simply less talent in personnel? Of course it would also help if Lewerke could stay on the field. And the O-Line IMO was not as physical as previous versions I've seen lately. They get four guys back but will they simply be the same four guys that seemed at times to be moving in slow motion last year?
Bollman IMO is more suited to his new, slash old, role and in the past has done a tremendous job with OLs. So I expect the Spartan OL to be much improved this season. Good news for Stevo and other Spartie fans. Especially if frosh lineman Devante Dobbs is good right out of the box. Personally I am uber impressed by the kid watching his film and think he's a plug in guy from day one.
Another mild surprise and IMO a bold move is swapping Treadwell to the offensive side with the receivers and Terrance Samuel switching over to DB coach. Treadwell is a jack of all trades guy and should slide into his new role without much of a hitch. Samuel had a short one year stint as defensive backs coach at little known Nebraska-Omaha over a dozen years ago. Otherwise he's been all offense for his entire career.
Sidenote: I say little known Nebraska-Omaha. But back in the day they used to be a well known name in Div II football. They have since dropped football.
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I think I'm going to borrow a page from Steve's playbook and start referring to USC as the favorite to win the NC this year...
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I'll be getting into the Trojans later.
No wait....that doesn't sound right.
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I see Mark Dantonio did some switching in his coaching staff assignments.
Is Dantonio's staff shuffle the right answer? Usually this sort of thing never ends well. First there's the hurt feelings and egos to deal with. Next if a coach was subpar will he be any better at another job? Or, was it a case of this guy is just better. Or, was it a case of maybe someone was in over their head? Or something else altogether? Stevo?
Salem maybe has a more personal knowledge of Lewerke. But is that reason to hand over the offensive reins to him? Then again he can't do much worse than Bollman and Dave Warner did. But was their paltry offense a case of poor coaching or simply less talent in personnel? Of course it would also help if Lewerke could stay on the field. And the O-Line IMO was not as physical as previous versions I've seen lately. They get four guys back but will they simply be the same four guys that seemed at times to be moving in slow motion last year?
Bollman IMO is more suited to his new, slash old, role and in the past has done a tremendous job with OLs. So I expect the Spartan OL to be much improved this season. Good news for Stevo and other Spartie fans. Especially if frosh lineman Devante Dobbs is good right out of the box. Personally I am uber impressed by the kid watching his film and think he's a plug in guy from day one.
Another mild surprise and IMO a bold move is swapping Treadwell to the offensive side with the receivers and Terrance Samuel switching over to DB coach. Treadwell is a jack of all trades guy and should slide into his new role without much of a hitch. Samuel had a short one year stint as defensive backs coach at little known Nebraska-Omaha over a dozen years ago. Otherwise he's been all offense for his entire career.
Sidenote: I say little known Nebraska-Omaha. But back in the day they used to be a well known name in Div II football. They have since dropped football.
No time to think of this stuff now. Hopefully Tuesday.
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Hopefully Tuesday.
Isn't that the day you're supposed to pay me back for the hamburger?
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Condolences Stevo and congrats. Good run for your guys this year.
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A little offseason fun...
http://www.hooch.net/these-are-the-worst-college-football-coaches-of-all-time/?utm_source=tb&utm_medium=espn-tb&utm_term=The+15+Worst+College+Football+Coaches+Of+All+Time-https%3A%2F%2Fconsole.brax-cdn.com%2Fcreatives%2Fb86bbc0b-1fab-4ae3-9b34-fef78c1a7488%2FMike-Price-1024x680_1000x600_d9fc7a8890a126ed585ed70457988877.png&utm_content=174944548&utm_campaign=1879531-tb (http://www.hooch.net/these-are-the-worst-college-football-coaches-of-all-time/?utm_source=tb&utm_medium=espn-tb&utm_term=The+15+Worst+College+Football+Coaches+Of+All+Time-https%3A%2F%2Fconsole.brax-cdn.com%2Fcreatives%2Fb86bbc0b-1fab-4ae3-9b34-fef78c1a7488%2FMike-Price-1024x680_1000x600_d9fc7a8890a126ed585ed70457988877.png&utm_content=174944548&utm_campaign=1879531-tb)
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Florida
Tennessee
University of California (Southern)
Michigan
MIchigan State
Nebraska
...is a list of?
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Schools that used to be good?
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Schools that have played drafted every year since X. Nebraska had no one this year, so they're out.....
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Most kids in the transfer portal? Though that sort of goes with my earlier comment
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Schools that have played drafted every year since X. Nebraska had no one this year, so they're out.....
oh yeah...that
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Florida
Tennessee
University of California (Southern)
Michigan
MIchigan State
Nebraska
...is a list of?
Teams without the letter Z in them.
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Schools that have played drafted every year since X. Nebraska had no one this year, so they're out.....
Since the start of the common draft in 1967.
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Florida
Tennessee
University of California (Southern)
Michigan
MIchigan State
Nebraska
...is a list of?
I missed that UT left this list a couple years ago.
FWIW, the first NFL draft was 1937. Meatchicken and USC last had a year with no player drafted in 1938. Meaning they both have had at least one player drafted in every draft but one.
MSU last had a year with no player drafted in 1940, Florida in 1951.
Unlike the other three schools, MSU has often had only one draftee, 6 times since 1967, including last year (Bruce Allen, 4th round to the Rams). Twice - Darquez Dennard in 2014 and the egregious Charles Rogers in 2003 - the only player taken was a first rounder. Once, 2010, the player was taken in the last round - Jeremy Ware, by Oakland. Once the only draftee was a punter - 1981, Ray Stachowicz, 3rd round. The other was EVENTUAL 2008 HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER JAVON RINGER, 5th round in 2009.
Other teams of interest:
Penn State, 2005
Ohio State, 1998
Clemson, 2002 - Tommy Bowden era. Surprised he lasted as long as he did.
Alabama, 2008
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, 1977
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The first player ever drafted in the NFL was also the first Heisman Trophy winner (though it wasn't known as the "Heisman Trophy" at the time).
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Other schools, the last time there were no players drafted:
Bowdoin, 2019
Slippery Rock,.2019
Maryland, 2017
Northwestern, 2014
Indiana, 2013
Oklahoma, 1995
Georgia, 1992
Florida State, 1983
Wisconsin,.1978
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There seems to be a repeating theme there, but I'll be damned if I can figure it out.
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Florida
Tennessee
University of California (Southern)
Michigan
MIchigan State
Nebraska
...is a list of?
I missed that UT left this list a couple years ago.
FWIW, the first NFL draft was 1937. Meatchicken and USC last had a year with no player drafted in 1938. Meaning they both have had at least one player drafted in every draft but one.
The same as Ohio State.
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Michigan and USC have the longest consecutive streaks of players going to the NFL Draft...followed by Michigan State apparently...
https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2018/04/michigan_states_nfl_draft_stre.html (https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2018/04/michigan_states_nfl_draft_stre.html)
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2019 Lott IMPACT Trophy Watch List
The Lott IMPACT Trophy is presented annually to the college football defensive IMPACT player of the year. IMPACT is an acronym for: Integrity, Maturity, Performance, Academics, Community, and Tenacity.
PAULSON ADEBO, Stanford, CB
MARKUS BAILEY, Purdue, LB
MOHAMED BARRY, Nebraska, LB,
JOE BACHIE, Michigan State, LB
DeCALON BROOKS, Florida State, LB,
DERRICK BROWN, Auburn, DT
MYLES BRYANT, Washington, DB
EDGAR CERENORD, Duke, DT
COLE CHRISTIANSEN, Army, LB
ANDRE CISCO, Syracuse, S
TROY DYE, Oregon, LB
A.J. EPENESA, Iowa, DL
PADDY FISHER, Northwestern, LB
JORDAN FULLER, Ohio State, DB
JEFF GADNEY, TCU, CB
CALE GARRETT, Missouri, LB
ALOHI GILMAN, Notre Dame, S
RICHIE GRANT, UCF, DB
YETUR GROSS-MATOS, Penn State, DE
BRYCE HALL, Virginia, S
KHALEKE HUDSON, Michigan, LB/S
JAYLEN JOHNSON, Utah, CB
BRANDON JONES, Texas, DB
RICHARD LaCOUNTE, Georgia, S
RASHARD LAWRENCE, LSU, DT
RAY LIMA, Iowa State, DL
JUSTIN MADUBUIKE, Texas A&M, DL
JOSH METELLUS, Michigan, S
DYLAN MOSES, Alabama, LB
KENNETH MURRAY, Oklahoma, LB
CHRIS ORR, Wisconsin, LB
SHAQUILLE QUARTERMAN, Miami, LB
CHRISTIAN RECTOR, USC, DL
MALCOLM ROACH, Texas, DE
COLIN SCHOOLER, Arizona, LB
ISAIAH SIMMONS, Clemson, LB
MYKAL WALKER, Fresno State, LB
CURTIS WEAVER, Boise State, DE
EVAN WEAVER, Cal, LB
TYLER WHILEY, Arizona State, LB/DB
DAVID WOODWARD, Utah State, LB
JABARI ZUNIGA, Florida, DE
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Dabo continues to kick butt in recruiting.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26770782/de-murphy-no-2-overall-recruit-picks-clemson (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26770782/de-murphy-no-2-overall-recruit-picks-clemson)
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Dabo continues to kick butt in recruiting.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26770782/de-murphy-no-2-overall-recruit-picks-clemson (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26770782/de-murphy-no-2-overall-recruit-picks-clemson)
Yeah, but when are they going to start proving it on the field?
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You've still got it Steve
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Fox TV is changing the starting times for its big games in the Big Ten and the Big 12.
The network has decided high noon will be the preferred kickoff time for its top interest matchups.
That means more than likely Michigan and Ohio will continue to start at noon and so will OSU/Penn State,
Michigan/Michigan State, Ohio State/Nebraska and Oklahoma/Texas.
Ticket buyers should be happy. A noon game frees up the rest of the day for other things and late fall temperatures of much more bearable than late afternoon and evening.
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Dabo continues to kick butt in recruiting.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26770782/de-murphy-no-2-overall-recruit-picks-clemson (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26770782/de-murphy-no-2-overall-recruit-picks-clemson)
Yeah, but when are they going to start proving it on the field?
August 29th.
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Fox TV is changing the starting times for its big games in the Big Ten and the Big 12.
The network has decided high noon will be the preferred kickoff time for its top interest matchups.
That means more than likely Michigan and Ohio will continue to start at noon and so will OSU/Penn State,
Michigan/Michigan State, Ohio State/Nebraska and Oklahoma/Texas.
Ticket buyers should be happy. A noon game frees up the rest of the day for other things and late fall temperatures of much more bearable than late afternoon and evening.
I've always had an affinity for cold games at the Beav.
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Fox TV is changing the starting times for its big games in the Big Ten and the Big 12.
The network has decided high noon will be the preferred kickoff time for its top interest matchups.
That means more than likely Michigan and Ohio will continue to start at noon and so will OSU/Penn State,
Michigan/Michigan State, Ohio State/Nebraska and Oklahoma/Texas.
Ticket buyers should be happy. A noon game frees up the rest of the day for other things and late fall temperatures of much more bearable than late afternoon and evening.
I've always had an affinity for cold games at the Beav.
I prefer games at the Beav when it is [NSFW]
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
With about 700 kids already in the portal I tend to agree with you. I'm not against the transfers but it's the quick turn leniency that the NCAA is granting that is the issue with me. The kids made a commitment. There should be some penalty for them stiffing the schools they committed to. If they want to be treated as adults then act like one when it comes to signing your name. If not then sit for a year an take the penalty for going against your word. This is directed more at the underclassmen rather than the grad transfers.
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
With about 700 kids already in the portal I tend to agree with you. I'm not against the transfers but it's the quick turn leniency that the NCAA is granting that is the issue with me. The kids made a commitment. There should be some penalty for them stiffing the schools they committed to. If they want to be treated as adults then act like one when it comes to signing your name. If not then sit for a year an take the penalty for going against your word. This is directed more at the underclassmen rather than the grad transfers.
It is their futures. If they realize the school is a bad fit for the., why hinder them from going to a better one?
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
With about 700 kids already in the portal I tend to agree with you. I'm not against the transfers but it's the quick turn leniency that the NCAA is granting that is the issue with me. The kids made a commitment. There should be some penalty for them stiffing the schools they committed to. If they want to be treated as adults then act like one when it comes to signing your name. If not then sit for a year an take the penalty for going against your word. This is directed more at the underclassmen rather than the grad transfers.
It is their futures. If they realize the school is a bad fit for the., why hinder them from going to a better one?
No problem go somewhere else. But you made a commitment, almost like signing a contract. It's a good life lesson to realize early that if you skip out on your responsibilities there can be consequences. But I suppose for some people in this day and age a person's signed word doesn't mean much. So, of course, opinions vary.
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
With about 700 kids already in the portal I tend to agree with you. I'm not against the transfers but it's the quick turn leniency that the NCAA is granting that is the issue with me. The kids made a commitment. There should be some penalty for them stiffing the schools they committed to. If they want to be treated as adults then act like one when it comes to signing your name. If not then sit for a year an take the penalty for going against your word. This is directed more at the underclassmen rather than the grad transfers.
It is their futures. If they realize the school is a bad fit for the., why hinder them from going to a better one?
No problem go somewhere else. But you made a commitment, almost like signing a contract.
No, it is not. A contract has conditions both sides commit to. No transfer is guaranteed anything for his commitment, not even a starting spot on the team. And no coach is going to commit to anything as he builds his team which can change in a minute with other recruits, even new
transfers.
The " signed" words of the school and the student mean nothing to either side.
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
With about 700 kids already in the portal I tend to agree with you. I'm not against the transfers but it's the quick turn leniency that the NCAA is granting that is the issue with me. The kids made a commitment. There should be some penalty for them stiffing the schools they committed to. If they want to be treated as adults then act like one when it comes to signing your name. If not then sit for a year an take the penalty for going against your word. This is directed more at the underclassmen rather than the grad transfers.
It is their futures. If they realize the school is a bad fit for the., why hinder them from going to a better one?
No problem go somewhere else. But you made a commitment, almost like signing a contract. It's a good life lesson to realize early that if you skip out on your responsibilities there can be consequences. But I suppose for some people in this day and age a person's signed word doesn't mean much. So, of course, opinions vary.
In the law there is a word for "almost like signing a contract". It is "not a contract." Especially when the agreement is only really restrictable on one side.
How committed is the school? Schools can cancel the.scholarship at the end of a year, right? If the signed word of the school is not binding for four years, why should the kids word be? It makes some sense to limit transfers to prevent tampering and continual recruiting, but not to the extent of hampering these free choice of the kids.
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
With about 700 kids already in the portal I tend to agree with you. I'm not against the transfers but it's the quick turn leniency that the NCAA is granting that is the issue with me. The kids made a commitment. There should be some penalty for them stiffing the schools they committed to. If they want to be treated as adults then act like one when it comes to signing your name. If not then sit for a year an take the penalty for going against your word. This is directed more at the underclassmen rather than the grad transfers.
It is their futures. If they realize the school is a bad fit for the., why hinder them from going to a better one?
No problem go somewhere else. But you made a commitment, almost like signing a contract.
No, it is not. A contract has conditions both sides commit to. No transfer is guaranteed anything for his commitment, not even a starting spot on the team. And no coach is going to commit to anything as he builds his team which can change in a minute with other recruits, even new
transfers.
The " signed" words of the school and the student mean nothing to either side.
Of course you would think this way. Not surprised.
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
With about 700 kids already in the portal I tend to agree with you. I'm not against the transfers but it's the quick turn leniency that the NCAA is granting that is the issue with me. The kids made a commitment. There should be some penalty for them stiffing the schools they committed to. If they want to be treated as adults then act like one when it comes to signing your name. If not then sit for a year an take the penalty for going against your word. This is directed more at the underclassmen rather than the grad transfers.
It is their futures. If they realize the school is a bad fit for the., why hinder them from going to a better one?
No problem go somewhere else. But you made a commitment, almost like signing a contract. It's a good life lesson to realize early that if you skip out on your responsibilities there can be consequences. But I suppose for some people in this day and age a person's signed word doesn't mean much. So, of course, opinions vary.
In the law there is a word for "almost like signing a contract". It is "not a contract." Especially when the agreement is only really restrictable on one side.
How committed is the school? Schools can cancel the.scholarship at the end of a year, right? If the signed word of the school is not binding for four years, why should the kids word be? It makes some sense to limit transfers to prevent tampering and continual recruiting, but not to the extent of hampering these free choice of the kids.
I congratulate you, even in the off-season you are in Mid-Season blah blah blah form. Bravo.
First, look up the word, almost, apply it to the context of the post and get back to me on that.
Second, how often do you see schools cancelling the scholarship unless it's for academic or disciplinary reasons? So STFU about that.
Of course you're welcome to your opinion, even though it sucks, and is somewhat supporting the dishonorable selfie attitude of most people in this country are invariably but relentlessly edging towards.
Besides if I had said it was a wonderful thing you(Like Skippy) would have said the opposite anyways. LOL
And have a nice day bro.
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Second, how often do you see schools cancelling the scholarship unless it's for academic or disciplinary reasons?
All the time.
20 per cent of the FBS schools have new coaches this year which could affect the scholarships of 1600+ football players.
Even if they don't lose a scholarship each player can face a new system different from the one he was recruited for.
Scholarship renewals are based on more factors than academic or disciplinary reasons, the most obvious is the player's- on -the- field performance.
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Second, how often do you see schools cancelling the scholarship unless it's for academic or disciplinary reasons?
All the time.
20 per cent of the FBS schools have new coaches this year which could affect the scholarships of 1600+ football players.
Even if they don't lose a scholarship each player can face a new system different from the one he was recruited for.
Scholarship renewals are based on more factors than academic or disciplinary reasons, the most obvious is the player's- on -the- field performance.
New coaches isn't a cancellation of the scholarship. STFU Skippy.
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This flippin Transfer Portal crap is getting out of hand... they need to completely rethink it and overhaul it
With about 700 kids already in the portal I tend to agree with you. I'm not against the transfers but it's the quick turn leniency that the NCAA is granting that is the issue with me. The kids made a commitment. There should be some penalty for them stiffing the schools they committed to. If they want to be treated as adults then act like one when it comes to signing your name. If not then sit for a year an take the penalty for going against your word. This is directed more at the underclassmen rather than the grad transfers.
It is their futures. If they realize the school is a bad fit for the., why hinder them from going to a better one?
No problem go somewhere else. But you made a commitment, almost like signing a contract. It's a good life lesson to realize early that if you skip out on your responsibilities there can be consequences. But I suppose for some people in this day and age a person's signed word doesn't mean much. So, of course, opinions vary.
In the law there is a word for "almost like signing a contract". It is "not a contract." Especially when the agreement is only really restrictable on one side.
How committed is the school? Schools can cancel the.scholarship at the end of a year, right? If the signed word of the school is not binding for four years, why should the kids word be? It makes some sense to limit transfers to prevent tampering and continual recruiting, but not to the extent of hampering these free choice of the kids.
I congratulate you, even in the off-season you are in Mid-Season blah blah blah form. Bravo.
First, look up the word, almost, apply it to the context of the post and get back to me on that.
I did note the context. Almost a contract equals not a contract. It is not horseshoes. Neither party is bound by the commitment. I disagree with saying the student has an obligation when s/he does not. Neither does the school
Second, how often do you see schools cancelling the scholarship unless it's for academic or disciplinary reasons? So STFU about that.
More often do than you think. Some God's Conference teams had a reputation for over booming scholarships and the weeding out, which they have every right to do.
Of course you're welcome to your opinion, even though it sucks, and is somewhat supporting the dishonorable selfie attitude of most people in this country are invariably but relentlessly edging towards.
Besides if I had said it was a wonderful thing you(Like Skippy) would have said the opposite anyways. LOL
And have a nice day bro.
Your rush to personalize every disagreement is noted. One of your defense mechanisms when cornered.
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Second, how often do you see schools cancelling the scholarship unless it's for academic or disciplinary reasons?
All the time.
20 per cent of the FBS schools have new coaches this year which could affect the scholarships of 1600+ football players.
Even if they don't lose a scholarship each player can face a new system different from the one he was recruited for.
Scholarship renewals are based on more factors than academic or disciplinary reasons, the most obvious is the player's- on -the- field performance.
New coaches isn't a cancellation of the scholarship. STFU Skippy.
New Coaches cancel scholarships.
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I did note the context. Almost a contract equals not a contract. It is not horseshoes. Neither party is bound by the commitment. I disagree with saying the student has an obligation when s/he does not. Neither does the school
While you may have noted it you sure didn't understand it. But I'm used to that kind of ignorance from you. I meant it in a moral sense. Any rational thinking person that didn't knee-jerk disagree with me because he's obsessed with disagreeing with me could have deciphered that.
Your rush to personalize every disagreement is noted. One of your defense mechanisms when cornered.
Who was cornered? You think that idiotic opinion cornered me? Your arrogance is beyond measure. LOL And there was no personalization. I said your opinion sucked, I didn't say "you" sucked. Something you've semantically done many times in the past. There have been many instances of you using this flim flam tactic to tell me you didn't insult me. Good for the goose good for the gander right. What goes around comes around. So, no personalization here using your own tactics. ;-)
You, as always, mistake an incorrectly perceived personal defense mechanism to what is simply mild annoyance at your's and Skippy's usual psychoneurotic auto compulsive anal stupidity. Which is your wont for some syndromic reason. And that wasn't an insult either just a correct observation. Have a nice day.
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I did note the context. Almost a contract equals not a contract. It is not horseshoes. Neither party is bound by the commitment. I disagree with saying the student has an obligation when s/he does not. Neither does the school
While you may have noted it you sure didn't understand it. But I'm used to that kind of ignorance from you. I meant it in a moral sense. Any rational thinking person that didn't knee-jerk disagree with me because he's obsessed with disagreeing with me could have deciphered that.
Behave as expected. "Everyone must actually agree with me! If they say they don't, it is because they are lying!"
Your rush to personalize every disagreement is noted. One of your defense mechanisms when cornered.
Who was cornered? LOL
You. Pressed by a counter argument you are more likely to pull out.an insult.than to engage in a discussion.
You, as always, mistake an incorrectly perceived personal defense mechanism to what is simply mild annoyance at your's and Skippy's usual psychoneurotic auto compulsive anal stupidity. Which is your wont for some syndromic reason. Have a nice day.
Once again, your need to personalize arguments you find hard to counter is noted. And, to quote Diane Keaton, anal is a polite term for what you are.
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Yep, neat.
I think we're done here. Unless Skippy has an equally lame parting shot. Maybe he'll quote Woody Allen, or maybe Woodsy Owl.
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Or just call your argument lane because he cannot handle.to discuss it on the merits and claim victory while.standing in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner, like you.
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I guess you weren't done. As usual your wont to disagree with any opinion I have has aggravated your syndrome. Giving you once more an itch you need to scratch.
FTR I never claimed victory. That's just your usual BS at work. If you are upset that I said your opinion sucked tough shit. It did.
And, again as always, I suppose I'll have to give you the last word because of your infantile need for it.
Have at it bra.
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I guess you weren't done. As usual your wont to disagree with any opinion I have has aggravated your syndrome. Giving you once more an itch you need to scratch.
I agree.with you more than I disagree. You just personalize disagreements. My speculation is it is some deep seeded inferiority complex that makes you uncomfortable with having to engage in argument. There are other possible explanations.
FTR I never claimed victory. That's just your usual BS at work. If you are upset that I said your opinion sucked tough shit. It did.
And, again as always, I suppose I'll have to give you the last word because of your infantile need for it.
I envision you looking in a mirror while typing this.
Have at it bra.
I had the last word about four posts ago. You never countered my arguments. You just decided to insult instead.
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Simple tweak
1) set a deadline for entering the portal. If after that date, then you will sit a year. No special circumstances
2) Player should lose scholarship immediately (if enrolled, then at end of current semester) upon entering portal
3) School should be granted a scholarship credit when one of their players enters--which they can use to grab someone else out of the portal, or their own player back if both parties decide they can stay...or to use for the next incoming class.
Losing their scholarship immediately will give players pause. Sort of like leaving early for the draft. There are no guarantees...and you might be shooting yourself in the foot. There should be no free tests of the water for the kids.
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Simple tweak
1) set a deadline for entering the portal. If after that date, then you will sit a year. No special circumstances
No Coach would buy that. He could be forced to keep a player he does not want.2) Player should lose scholarship immediately (if enrolled, then at end of current semester) upon entering portal[
Scholarships belong to the schools and the athletic department has to pay the school the going rate. The NCAA can establish limits, It cannot have a hand in giving them out or taking them back.
he 3) School should be granted a scholarship credit when one of their players enters--which they can use to grab someone else out of the portal, or their own player back if both parties decide they can stay...or to use for the next incoming class.
Losing their scholarship immediately will give players pause. Sort of like leaving early for the draft. There are no guarantees...and you might be shooting yourself in the foot. There should be no free tests of the water for the kids.
You are searching for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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I think what needs to be restricted is tampering and recruiting by schools, not a kid's ability to choose a better path for himself.
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Simple tweak
1) set a deadline for entering the portal. If after that date, then you will sit a year. No special circumstances
2) Player should lose scholarship immediately (if enrolled, then at end of current semester) upon entering portal
3) School should be granted a scholarship credit when one of their players enters--which they can use to grab someone else out of the portal, or their own player back if both parties decide they can stay...or to use for the next incoming class.
Losing their scholarship immediately will give players pause. Sort of like leaving early for the draft. There are no guarantees...and you might be shooting yourself in the foot. There should be no free tests of the water for the kids.
I'd stop at number one. And restrict freshmen from using it at all.
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I have to wonder why so many West Virginia players are transferring. Something rotten in Morgantown?
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Simple tweak
1) set a deadline for entering the portal. If after that date, then you will sit a year. No special circumstances
2) Player should lose scholarship immediately (if enrolled, then at end of current semester) upon entering portal
3) School should be granted a scholarship credit when one of their players enters--which they can use to grab someone else out of the portal, or their own player back if both parties decide they can stay...or to use for the next incoming class.
Losing their scholarship immediately will give players pause. Sort of like leaving early for the draft. There are no guarantees...and you might be shooting yourself in the foot. There should be no free tests of the water for the kids.
I'd stop at number one. And restrict freshmen from using it at all.
Somehow, I picture you as the guy with the whip on a Roman trireme. Row, galley slaves! ROW!
Though assuming by "freshmen" you mean during your first football year, as opposed to academic year, your points are valid. I am not sure why some kid who is looking to transfer has to wait until June to look for offers, rather than March. But you can't put in the transfer inquiry because you were fourth string your first game or Coach Saban stepped over your gassed, unconscious body on the practice field your first day to scream at a sophomore.
Actually, I am not sure that concept should not stretch to all years. Once fall practice starts you are locked in.
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Once fall practice starts you are locked in.
Ok, we are getting somewhere. Whatever that date is, we can agree that some sort of milestone date should be observed so it is not throwing a program into chaos and it gives everyone time to adjust.
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Now, I'm going to skip to #3 for the moment.
Unless I'm mistaken*, under the current rules, a team can lose several players to the portal after the signing deadline and find itself in pretty desperate shape at a given position. But, since, they are not granted an extra incoming scholarship, they have no way of filling this position of need that was created by allowing a player to put himself in the portal. They can't currently even go into the portal to grab someone else.
Hence the clear need for rule change #3.
* And if I am, I am confident I will receive a snarky reply to let me know.
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Actually, I am not sure that concept should not stretch to all years. Once fall practice starts you are locked in.
Nitpicking, but I'd set the begin deadline at Jan 10th and the end deadline at July 1st. With grad students able to so as they please.
And FTR I was and am strict. Nothing wrong with discipline when tempered with the appropriate compassion and concern needed, even though the liberals of this world swear otherwise. My father expected honor grades from me in school and he got them. Just as I expected them from my son.
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Now, I'm going to skip to #3 for the moment.
Unless I'm mistaken*, under the current rules, a team can lose several players to the portal after the signing deadline and find itself in pretty desperate shape at a given position. But, since, they are not granted an extra incoming scholarship, they have no way of filling this position of need that was created by allowing a player to put himself in the portal. They can't currently even go into the portal to grab someone else.
Hence the clear need for rule change #3.
Okay You have no support for #1 and #2.As for # 3 it still is search for aproblem.
If a portal decision in October blindsides a coach then the coach is an idiot and/or on a path to being fired.
Who wouldn't put himself on the Portal?
Apparently no one
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TransferPortal/
(https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TransferPortal/)
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26907087/ex-gator-steele-heading-usc-not-oregon (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26907087/ex-gator-steele-heading-usc-not-oregon)
Ex-Gator Steele heading to USC, not Oregon:
When Steele initially announced the transfer, he said he would be attending Oregon. Steele then visited USC on Monday, according to a source, and decided to change course, landing with the Trojans. Steele is originally from the Los Angeles area and was committed to USC at one point during his recruitment. The change of heart might seem surprising to Oregon fans, but Steele told The Athletic that his flip to USC was to stay closer to his family after his mother was laid off from her job.
"It was going to be a financial hardship for her to be able to come watch me play," Steele told The Athletic. "My mom has never missed one of my games before. Going to Oregon seemed like a really good idea. I still think that if I were to go there, I would do very well."
Steele went on to say that the cost of plane tickets from California to Oregon would have made it impossible for his parents to attend his games and support him in person.
Sooooo, where again is the state of Florida?
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Once fall practice starts you are locked in.
Ok, we are getting somewhere. Whatever that date is, we can agree that some sort of milestone date should be observed so it is not throwing a program into chaos and it gives everyone time to adjust.
I'd still set the cutoff date at Mid-June early July.
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Now, I'm going to skip to #3 for the moment.
Unless I'm mistaken*, under the current rules, a team can lose several players to the portal after the signing deadline and find itself in pretty desperate shape at a given position. But, since, they are not granted an extra incoming scholarship, they have no way of filling this position of need that was created by allowing a player to put himself in the portal. They can't currently even go into the portal to grab someone else.
Hence the clear need for rule change #3.
Okay You have no support for #1 and #2.As for # 3 it still is search for aproblem.
If a portal decision in October blindsides a coach then the coach is an idiot and/or on a path to being fired.
Who wouldn't put himself on the Portal?
Apparently no one
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TransferPortal/
(https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TransferPortal/)
Yes he does for the first one.
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I have no idea what you guys are arguing about now, some Transfer Portal to another planet?
But if it is a question about transferring to another school, I say this is still a free country and these athlete-"part time" students should be free to transfer. As for the Grad transfers, I predict that some universities will soon have two football teams, one for undergrads and one for grad students only. Twice the revenue flow and double headers will soon be played on some campuses.
West Virginia exodus? In every sport there! They are tired af the constant long-distance travel.
Dumbest thing ever in WV, and a lot of dumb things have happened there.
Cap is right as usual. I disagree with him, but I don't mind being wrong once.
Have a great summer Cap. Will pop back in in late Sept. after Cup-Cake season is over.
Can't wait to slap JimboNutESPNRedWardStateDumbAss around some more!
Opinions vary D.J. Bro but as always we're cool. Have a great summer too, see you in the fall.
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Yes he does for the first one.
...and I know you will come around on 2 & 3...just a matter of time. it is an elegant solution. Allows everyone to do what they need to do.
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Yes he does for the first one.
...and I know you will come around on 2 & 3...just a matter of time. it is an elegant solution. Allows everyone to do what they need to do.
I might.
After all, if you take note, I was the only one to agree with you at all in the first place.
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Well, I took this to mean that Steve agreed also...
Once fall practice starts you are locked in.
I think there was only one person that actually disagreed...he just happened to speak for everyone else and make it seem like no one else did.
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The ACC and SEC continue to dominate college football recruiting just as they have dominated the College Football Playoff National Championship title for the last four years.
Currently for the RIVALS 2020 Top 15 teams those two conferences own an impressive 11 of the Top 15 slots. Further expanded the SEC leads the TOP 25 teams with nearly half of them at 12 teams.
The PAC 12 continues to have a poor showing with no teams in the Top 10 and only one team Oregon(#12) in the Top 25. USC is currently at #55. The Big 12's Oklahoma(#15) also is the only school from that conference to crack the Top 25. The State of Texas has always been one of the country's most fertile areas for football recruiting and yet the Longhorns are currently only at #29. Additionally the Horns only have three commits from their own state and none of them are in the state's Top 10. Of the Top 25 recruits from the state of Texas 15 are already committed, 3 for the Horns, 2 for Oklahoma, 1 for OSU. The other 9 are committed to the SEC(8) and ACC(1).
The Big 10 is faring better than the two bottom conferences with one team in the Top 15, Ohio State (#7) and 5 total teams in the Top 25. Michigan(17), Penn State(18), Iowa(23) and Northwestern(24) occupy slots at the bottom end of the Top 25.
There is still time however but as of now the ACC and SEC are dominating football recruitment for 2020.
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like the changing seasons themselves.... you say how recruiting looks and I say it ain't over til the final signing day. Though I think that definitely is starting to change
#1 we saw less movement last year between the first signing day and the last than we had the prior two years.
#2 there is now movement after the final signing day. Reference the fact we just got two highly ranked recruits back in the last two weeks.
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like the changing seasons themselves.... you say how recruiting looks and I say it ain't over til the final signing day. Though I think that definitely is starting to change
#1 we saw less movement last year between the first signing day and the last than we had the prior two years.
#2 there is now movement after the final signing day. Reference the fact we just got two highly ranked recruits back in the last two weeks.
Right, you got the kid from Florida that couldn't seem to make up his mind in the first place, decided for USC, then changed it to Florida, went to Florida, changed it to Oregon, then changed it to USC. Hopefully nobody sneezes the kid's way or he'll change it again. ;-)
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like the changing seasons themselves.... you say how recruiting looks and I say it ain't over til the final signing day. Though I think that definitely is starting to change
#1 we saw less movement last year between the first signing day and the last than we had the prior two years.
#2 there is now movement after the final signing day. Reference the fact we just got two highly ranked recruits back in the last two weeks.
Right, you got the kid from Florida that couldn't seem to make up his mind in the first place, decided for USC, then changed it to Florida, went to Florida, changed it to Oregon, then changed it to USC. Hopefully nobody sneezes the kid's way or he'll change it again. ;-)
Or his mother wont lose her job and be forced to relocate back to Cali to live with family again. Row serf! Row!
Actually, thinking back on the story, his mother losing her job may be the reason he switched to SC from Oregon, not the transfer away from Florida.
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like the changing seasons themselves.... you say how recruiting looks and I say it ain't over til the final signing day. Though I think that definitely is starting to change
#1 we saw less movement last year between the first signing day and the last than we had the prior two years.
#2 there is now movement after the final signing day. Reference the fact we just got two highly ranked recruits back in the last two weeks.
Right, you got the kid from Florida that couldn't seem to make up his mind in the first place, decided for USC, then changed it to Florida, went to Florida, changed it to Oregon, then changed it to USC. Hopefully nobody sneezes the kid's way or he'll change it again. ;-)
Or his mother wont lose her job and be forced to relocate back to Cali to live with family again. Row serf! Row!
Actually, thinking back on the story, his mother losing her job may be the reason he switched to SC from Oregon, not the transfer away from Florida.
Yeah, she couldn't find another job. Forcemarched back to Cali.
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like the changing seasons themselves.... you say how recruiting looks and I say it ain't over til the final signing day. Though I think that definitely is starting to change
#1 we saw less movement last year between the first signing day and the last than we had the prior two years.
#2 there is now movement after the final signing day. Reference the fact we just got two highly ranked recruits back in the last two weeks.
Right, you got the kid from Florida that couldn't seem to make up his mind in the first place, decided for USC, then changed it to Florida, went to Florida, changed it to Oregon, then changed it to USC. Hopefully nobody sneezes the kid's way or he'll change it again. ;-)
Or his mother wont lose her job and be forced to relocate back to Cali to live with family again. Row serf! Row!
Actually, thinking back on the story, his mother losing her job may be the reason he switched to SC from Oregon, not the transfer away from Florida.
Yeah, she couldn't find another job. Forcemarched back to Cali.
And the amount of time you spent walking around in her shoes before rendering judgment would be?
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like the changing seasons themselves.... you say how recruiting looks and I say it ain't over til the final signing day. Though I think that definitely is starting to change
#1 we saw less movement last year between the first signing day and the last than we had the prior two years.
#2 there is now movement after the final signing day. Reference the fact we just got two highly ranked recruits back in the last two weeks.
Right, you got the kid from Florida that couldn't seem to make up his mind in the first place, decided for USC, then changed it to Florida, went to Florida, changed it to Oregon, then changed it to USC. Hopefully nobody sneezes the kid's way or he'll change it again. ;-)
Or his mother wont lose her job and be forced to relocate back to Cali to live with family again. Row serf! Row!
Actually, thinking back on the story, his mother losing her job may be the reason he switched to SC from Oregon, not the transfer away from Florida.
Yeah, she couldn't find another job. Forcemarched back to Cali.
And the amount of time you spent walking around in her shoes before rendering judgment would be?
Darn, I didn't see the regulation in the Book of Opinion where I needed to wear someone else's shoes before having one. My bad.
Besides there needs to be a counter to your over-piousness.
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like the changing seasons themselves.... you say how recruiting looks and I say it ain't over til the final signing day. Though I think that definitely is starting to change
#1 we saw less movement last year between the first signing day and the last than we had the prior two years.
#2 there is now movement after the final signing day. Reference the fact we just got two highly ranked recruits back in the last two weeks.
Right, you got the kid from Florida that couldn't seem to make up his mind in the first place, decided for USC, then changed it to Florida, went to Florida, changed it to Oregon, then changed it to USC. Hopefully nobody sneezes the kid's way or he'll change it again. ;-)
Or his mother wont lose her job and be forced to relocate back to Cali to live with family again. Row serf! Row!
Actually, thinking back on the story, his mother losing her job may be the reason he switched to SC from Oregon, not the transfer away from Florida.
Yeah, she couldn't find another job. Forcemarched back to Cali.
And the amount of time you spent walking around in her shoes before rendering judgment would be?
Darn, I didn't see the regulation in the Book of Opinion where I needed to wear someone else's shoes before having one. My bad.
That'd be To Kill a Mockingbird. It should have been skin. My bad.
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And another chapter in the books.
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Big 12 commish: All transfers should sit one year:
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/26948342/big-12-commish-all-transfers-sit-one-year (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/26948342/big-12-commish-all-transfers-sit-one-year)
...Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said Tuesday he believes all student-athletes who want to transfer should sit out one year, with no exceptions. ...
Careful Bobby, or you'll have Stevo accusing you of being Marcus Licinius Crassus.
Spartacus SPARTACUS SPARTACUS!
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Big 12 commish: All transfers should sit one year:
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/26948342/big-12-commish-all-transfers-sit-one-year (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/26948342/big-12-commish-all-transfers-sit-one-year)
...Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said Tuesday he believes all student-athletes who want to transfer should sit out one year, with no exceptions. ...
Careful Bobby, or you'll have Stevo accusing you of being Marcus Licinius Crassus.
Spartacus SPARTACUS SPARTACUS!
How about also: a team cannot fill the scholarship for a year either.
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Next time one of his schools signs a coach working for another program Bowlsby should be asked if that coach should sit out year.
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Next time one of his schools signs a coach working for another program Bowlsby should be asked if that coach should sit out year.
Nicely done.
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Next time one of his schools signs a coach working for another program Bowlsby should be asked if that coach should sit out year.
I see you connect amateur sports with a professional job. Connecting them with empirical facts that connect them. Not comparisons, facts, might be a bit difficult.
I'm all ears.
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The professional job is connected to amateur sports which is the problem. I'll provide the same empircal data that Bowlsby did. Both coaches and players make commitments. Apparently Bowlsby (and you) feel that only players should pay a price for breaking them.
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So you don't have any facts. Okay.
I understand your point, and even to a point sympathize with it. But only to a point.
I'll add that lots of coaches have buyout clauses in the contracts they sign. In other words a penalty, maybe you didn't see the penalty so I'll point it out. Lots of others, not head coaches only have one year contracts and renew them every year. So the only thing I see in common is a penalty that each can be accessed with.
But, IMO there is no actual and factual connection between an amateur athlete and a professional coach.
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What kind of facts are you looking for? I believe that coaches who break their commitments to the kids they've recruited should face the same ramifications as the kids who do so. By definition that's an opinion.
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I'm looking for a fact that connects a professional adult "job", with an amateur playing a "game".
Look as I might I can't find one.
And the kids were recruited to play a game and get a free academic ride. I don't see why they should worry who the coach is. They'll have a coach every year they're there. I don't think the schools will make them play without coaching. If a professor in math leaves I'm fairly sure the University will find another one to replace him.
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So are we all.
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So you don't have any facts. Okay.
I understand your point, and even to a point sympathize with it. But only to a point.
I'll add that lots of coaches have buyout clauses in the contracts they sign. In other words a penalty, maybe you didn't see the penalty so I'll point it out. Lots of others, not head coaches only have one year contracts and renew them every year. So the only thing I see in common is a penalty that each can be accessed with.
But, IMO there is no actual and factual connection between an amateur athlete and a professional coach.
That "penalty" is in all instances paid by boosters from the team hiring the coach.
The coach can leave, the school can yank a scholarship. The only one you want to bind is an 19, 20 year old kid sold the moon by coach or who wants a better chance to develop his talents. Row, serf! Row!
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So what, the guy is a professional. He's earned it. A buy out is a buyout. Without it the coach leaving probably would have gotten some if not all of that cash too. It's a penalty, as he didn't get it. GET it? But it was "in" the contract. Something agreed on. If and when the transfer rules change the recruits will know about the new rule before they sign. It won't be kept a secret from them. I would however be in favor of if the rules change I would be in favor of any kid who was recruited under the old rule get grandfathered to the rule they originally signed with.
And once again your weak point is that schools can yank a scholarship. That's been covered. But since your memory is short I'll refresh it. That rarely happens except for good reason. Usually the player has done a bad thing.
And coaches can be fired, not just for being bad but for not producing. Players that don't produce rarely lose their scholarship. They just sit the bench.
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So are we all.
You couldn't find your dick even if you were already holding onto it Skippy. Which you probably are.
If you ever had an original thought it would die of loneliness.
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So are we all.
You couldn't find your dick even if you were already holding onto it Skippy. Which you probably are.
If you ever had an original thought it would die of loneliness.
I think I will remain on the High Road with YankGuy.
The gutter is all yours.
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So what, the guy is a professional. He's earned it. A buy out is a buyout. Without it the coach leaving probably would have gotten some it not all of that cash too. It's a penalty, as he didn't get it. GET it? But it was "in" the contract. Something agreed on. If and when the transfer rules change the recruits will know about before they sign. It won't be kept a secret from them. I would however be in favor of if the rules change I would be in favor of any kid who was recruited under the old rule get grandfathered to the rule they originally signed with.
And once again your weak point is that schools can yank a scholarship. That's been covered. But since your memory is short I'll refresh it. That rarely happens except for good reason. Usually the player has done a bad thing.
And coaches can be fired, not just for being bad but for not producing. Players that don't produce rarely lose their scholarship. They just sit the bench.
Players rarely transfer except for good reason.
I'm looking for a fact that connects a professional adult "job", with an amateur playing a "game".
Look as I might I can't find one.
At the risk of repeating others: ?
And it is telling though not surprising that the person you believe should be punished for changing his mind about a life defining decision is not the adult, getting paid, who has signed a contract, but the kid playing a game who has not.
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So what, the guy is a professional. He's earned it. A buy out is a buyout. Without it the coach leaving probably would have gotten some it not all of that cash too. It's a penalty, as he didn't get it. GET it? But it was "in" the contract. Something agreed on. If and when the transfer rules change the recruits will know about before they sign. It won't be kept a secret from them. I would however be in favor of if the rules change I would be in favor of any kid who was recruited under the old rule get grandfathered to the rule they originally signed with.
And once again your weak point is that schools can yank a scholarship. That's been covered. But since your memory is short I'll refresh it. That rarely happens except for good reason. Usually the player has done a bad thing.
And coaches can be fired, not just for being bad but for not producing. Players that don't produce rarely lose their scholarship. They just sit the bench.
Players rarely transfer except for good reason.
I'm looking for a fact that connects a professional adult "job", with an amateur playing a "game".
Look as I might I can't find one.
At the risk of repeating others: ?
And it is telling though not surprising that the person you believe should be punished for changing his mind about a life defining decision is not the adult, getting paid, who has signed a contract, but the kid playing a game who has not.
That would depend on what one thinks a "good reason" is. Yours and mine certainly don't have very much overlapping ground I'm sure. As to the second,
At the risk of repeating others? So far there are no others.
It's also telling that you can't separate a professional decision from an amateur one. First I'm told that only the player gets penalized. After debunking that falsehood proving that the supposed "adult" also gets penalized, now it's adult vs minor.
Well most freshmen are 18+ years old and legally an "adult". With adulthood comes responsibility for one's actions. You mention the signed contract. Those contracts that, more and more, already have the "legal" buyout provisions in it. A penalty. Both sides, the coach and the University know what they are getting into.
The recruit is at liberty to ask the coach if he has a buyout clause in his contract. He's at liberty to garner all of the information he wants before making his decision. He's at liberty to get all the advice he wants, including I suppose legal council before making his decision. I was making my own "life" decisions for myself when I was 16 years old.
And, what about all of the player's teammates? Maybe they went to the school thinking player A or player B was going to be there? I haven't heard a peep out of any bleeding heart here taking that into consideration including you. You want to cry for the individuals transferring. Where's the sympathy for the other players affected. Apparently they don't fit into the neat little box you've prepared.
Okay, so you think I'm a heartless SOB. Fine, maybe I am. But I'm not playing favorites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk2DlQuog6E
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk2DlQuog6E)
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...Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said Tuesday he believes all student-athletes who want to transfer should sit out one year, with no exceptions. ...
How about also: a team cannot fill the scholarship for a year either.
The Bowlsby ultimatum raises some thorny issues.
Kelly Bryant left Clemson with a year of eligibility left thanks to the NCAA rule change regarding red-shirts.
Bryant is a graduate of Clemson but the Bowlsby rule says 'NO EXCEPTIONS".
So Bryant, absent some amendments to the Bowlsby rule, would have gone to the NFL. Or tried to.
If circumstances of graduation were no part of this situation does a returning redshirt senior who has been benched have to remain at the school where he is likely not to play?
Bru McCoy( 5 stars) signed with USC, practically his home town school. In addition Cliff Kingsbury was to be the Trojan offensive coordinator. But Kingsbury took off for the NFL so McCoy took off for Texas. After spring practice he decided he was homesick for southern California. Now he is applying for a waiver to come back to the team he signed with.
Which school would the Bowlsby rule dictate McCoy could play football?
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Which school would the Bowlsby rule dictate McCoy could play football?
He would have to take two years off. this year for the transfer to Texas and next year for the transfer back.
...and maybe a third for promising himself to Oregon before he changed his mind again.
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LOL
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Which school would the Bowlsby rule dictate McCoy could play football?
He would have to take two years off. this year for the transfer to Texas and next year for the transfer back.
...and maybe a third for promising himself to Oregon before he changed his mind again.
Well, The Big12 Commissioner says “ No Exceptions!
And did you confuse McCoy withChris Steele?
Steele decided to transfer from Florida. He first committed to Oregon before settling onUSC.
Anyway. Another “ exception” to laugh at.
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did you confuse McCoy with Chris Steele?
Oh yeah...it was Steele that said he was going to Oregon.
I think I'm going to wait until I see either of these two guys in a Cardinal and Gold uniform before I think too much more about them.
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Harbaugh makin a move baby.
7th commit in 4 days boosts U-M's class ranking
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27062517/7th-commit-4-days-boosts-u-m-class-ranking (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27062517/7th-commit-4-days-boosts-u-m-class-ranking)
Watching the films I can find I'm very impressed with Mohan. A bit undersized but that can change. Kid could turn out to be a star.
Persi has possibilities but is going to have to get a lot bigger. Atteberry is the OL I'll keep my eye on though.
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My Top 11:
11. Utah
The PAWCP South is a mess right now, which is an opportunity for a well-constructed, well coached team like Utah. I like their defense; even with a couple departures in the secondary, the core of the group remains, and should improve. Offensively, reasonable health for Huntley should help provide enough offense. They do not have a power conference OOC opponent, and miss out on both Oregon and Stanford. Weak schedule, mucked up South means Utah should be in the PAWCP final.
10. Meatchicken
I think you all know how painful it was for me to even write that much.
9. Texas
Texas may be, for me, the team that replaces the Mark Richt era Georgia Bulldogs as the team I consistently overrate, year in, year out. Ehlinger couldn’t beat Lake Travis, sure, but he is a good college quarterback, and Herman is a fine coach who has been recruiting well. It may take them a while to get the defense sorted out, with only 2 returning starters. Fortunately, defense is irrelevant in the Pure Prairie League. Unfortunately, they have LSU in week 2. They look to be the second best team in the PPL.
8. Louisiana State University
Amazing what a merely competent quarterback can do for an offense. After years of watching stellar defenses lose out on glory because of the inability to achieve mere competence at One. Specific. Position., Just OK Joe Burrow is just OK enough to win any time LSU is not playing a team whose name rhymes with Malabama. They have some holes to fill on Defense, including replacing 2019 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year Greedy Williams, but they have a lot of depth to replace anyone with. I just don’t think they get over Sabin Mountain.
7. Oregon
Someone is winning the PAWCP, and missing the Playoffs. I like Washington’s coach, and new portal quarterback, but do not trust them to make good on the defensive losses. Herbert did not impress me when I saw them, albeit a lot of that was against one of the NCAA’s better defenses in the most snooze inducing bowl game of last winter, but he has all the tools, and good running backs and line to lean on. Defensively, they have a good but not great defense, but it should be enough. They have to survive Auburn early, and Washington on the road, to be a CFP team, and I do not think they do that.
6. Alabama
Because I have them losing to Georgia and being the best team not in the CFP. They lost a lof of talent in the draft, sure, but they are strong and deep everywhere. Alabama is one of the handful of “reload” teams in CFB, so even if I did not know who was taking Quinnen Williams’s place (Phidarian Mathis? D J Dale?) I know it is a talent. Yhere is two, three deep talent all through the defense. Taglovailoa is one of the top returning quarterbacks, Najee Harris and Trey Sanders should become the top RB options without missing a beat, and Judge Jeudy gives Taglovailoa the top target in the NCAA. So why do I Have them missing the playoffs? Is it because the odds against Bama/ClemSIN V make me want to keep one out, and it isn’t going to be the only really good team in the South Atlantic League? Is it because I actually hate Nick Satan that much? Is it a hunch? Was Alabama tails? I’ll never tell.
5. Oklahoma
Nine starters return on Defense, which is only kind of good news. They could not stop the running game, and had an even worse pass defense. Part of it is the culture of the Pure Prairie League, where every team tries to out-offense each other, and offense wins championships. But without improvements, they are not going to get through Alaborgia or ClemSIN. Offensively, Hurts has a lot of the skills Murray had, but Murray was a better controlled passer. Still, there is so much talent on the line and receiving that Hurts should be able to come close to the Heisman level performance Oklahoma has had for years.
4. the Ohio State
If Alabama gets in over a conference champ – in addition to the PAWCP – it is here. The Buckeyes have one of their periodic “between home and home” cupcake OOC schedules – the best team they play is Cinci - but there are a handful of games that they could lose on their schedule. The Big Whatever’s West may lack a stellar team, but it is deep and OSU has three of the contenders on its schedule, in addition to whoever wins in the Big Whatever championship game. They get two of the three strong East teams – PSU, MSU – at home, and get to suck the life out of Jim “OSU’s Your Daddy” Harbaugh in Ann Arbor. I do not think the Committee would put a one loss non-champ in against a one loss conference champ, but they sure as hell are willing to put a one loss non-champ in over a two loss champ, particularly if the one loss non champ is Alabama. I am putting some trust in tOSU’s ability to restock after losses, and for New Guy QB to be able to seamlessly integrate into the offense, run by New Guy Head Coach, but the returning talent is strong on both sides of the ball, everywhere.
3. Georgia
Because Jake Fromm, a strong offensive line – one of the nation’s best – a bevy of running backs and a supremely talented defense that only needs to get a little better against the run. The schedule is tough – the OOC includes Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie and while God’s Conference East is still the weaker half, they draw Auburn on the road and TAMU – but doable.
2. ClemSIN
Trevor Lawrence may have Jennifer Lawrence’s hair, but he also has Justin Ross, Travis Etienne and 4/5 of last year’s great o line to support him. Defensively, you’d think losing your entire defensive line to the NFL would indicate that there is some work to be done, but they have experienced depth waiting to come in. The South Atlantic League is weak again, but ClemSIN does have a tough OOC game against TAMU. Still, the toughest league game looks like an early season matchup with the Cuse, and in the old days the chance that they would Clemson away an easy win would always be there. I think they are past that. Only one team has ever repeated since the BCS era started, but there is no reason that they cannot be the second.
1. EVENTUAL 2019-2020 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE!
Well, we should have a tough defense that can keep us in every game – 8 returning starters including potential first round choice Kenny Willekes, who heads up one of the better D Lines in the country. Bachie and Scott are also possible All Americans. We can hold any offense in check, for a while at least. I am placing a lot of trust in the idea that the arm injury to Eventual 2019 Heisman Trophy Winner Brian Lewerke, and not regression to the mean, was the reason he was so much worse in 2018 than 2017. We also have to figure out the running back position, and need improvement on the O Line. The schedule has a really tough stretch – OSU, Wisky on the road, PSU at home, and then at Michigan (granted, with two off days – three if you count Illinois – mixed in). But revenge against the Fightin’ Edwards’s in East Lansing highlights a very doable OOC schedule. I am thinking this year is like 2013, where we followed up a 7-6 year that featured some very close losses with a Rose Bowl win.
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Life after Urban looks good then?
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27093210/maryland-hit-warning-accrediting-agency (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27093210/maryland-hit-warning-accrediting-agency)
Maryland hit with warning by accrediting agency:
I don't think this comes as a surprise to very many people. The roller coaster way Maryland's review was handled assured that this current ruling was bound to happen IMO. In fact I'm slightly surprised the ruling was this 'gentle'.
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Life after Urban looks good then?
Same players.
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The Big 10 has made some gains in the ESPN recruiting rankings lately. OSU moved up a couple of slots to 3rd. Michigan is up 5 slots to 5th, and Penn St is up 7 slots to 10th. Sounds like a stock market report.
Rivals the Premier ranking service still has Clemson and LSU in a closely contested battle for the #1 slot with Bama well within striking distance.
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I'm tempted to reply to the stock report with a flippant comment about how well we are going to do...but I realize with our performance lately, I'm going to start sounding like Steve and his annual prediction of the National Championship for MSU
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I'm not sure we can sink much lower...
https://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-football-uc-davis-fcs-opponent-20190712-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-football-uc-davis-fcs-opponent-20190712-story.html)
Maybe we will put names on the back of the jerseys next.
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I'm not sure we can sink much lower...
https://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-football-uc-davis-fcs-opponent-20190712-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-football-uc-davis-fcs-opponent-20190712-story.html)
Maybe we will put names on the back of the jerseys next.
We were a long time hold out on that too, until 2011. Now Dantonio keeps giving Ytown a payday every couple of years.
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What does it matter if SC plays UC Davis or Fresno State?
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What does it matter if SC plays UC Davis or Fresno State?
Really? Or are you just piling on?
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What does it matter if SC plays UC Davis or Fresno State?
The Fightin' Raisins are occasionally decent, depending on the sexual activity and fertility of Mr. and Mrs. Carr.
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What does it matter if SC plays UC Davis or Fresno State?
It matters to the new world of juggle the numbers. Or, to put it another way, the whiners that complain(Too much IMO) about OOC SOS.
That is not to say OOC SOS doesn't matter. But lately it seems that for some it is the Holy Grail tell-all of what team is better.
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Right on cue. Delany obviously reads this site and pays attention to what I say. ;-)
Delany critical of CFP selection committee:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27216204/delany-critical-cfp-selection-committee (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27216204/delany-critical-cfp-selection-committee)
Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany thinks the College Football Playoff selection committee must remember its mission to value conference championships and schedule strength in determining the four participating teams.
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Delany said he didn't understand how Ohio State, the 2018 Big Ten champion at 12-1, finished sixth in the final CFP standings, behind SEC runner-up Georgia. ...
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Big Ten, Big 12 and Pac-12 teams all play nine-game conference schedules and typically at least one non-league Power Five opponent. The ACC and SEC play eight-game conference schedules, with most teams adding one non-league game against Power Five opponents and some playing two such contests.
"I've been disappointed, quite honestly, about the strength of schedule," Delany said. "We're not going to change. There may be pressure to change, but I think that's short-selling our fans, our players, our TV partners. I'm hoping that the committee catches up with the intent of the founders."
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Playing only 8 game conference schedules obviously didn't stop Bama and Clemson from clearly being the two best teams in the nation. No Delany, it won't be your way or the highway. No matter how much you squawk. You want nine games? Who the fuck is stopping you? The Committees job, and what the Founders intended, was to get the two best teams into the Championship game. Don't piss and moan Jim it's unmanly. Do your job and make your teams better. And let the Committee do their job.
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Cappy Notes:
Michigan State: OL Notes
First let me say putting Brad Salem in charge of the offense may be the smartest thing Dantonio has done in quite a while. Salem will, I’m sure, be able to get the best out of the Spartan’s 3 Star talent players.
Next, Dantonio put Jim Bollman back where he belongs. In the trenches coaching the hogs. This alone should transform the Spartan offense from an absolute disaster last year into a much more consistently successful group for the 2019 season. Bonner is/was not a good fit at OC IMO, never was even though he held the position at several schools.
The first thing I’ve noticed in this change is a large offseason weight gain on the OL. A group whose personnel returns basically intact from last year. However, it should not be the inept Three Stooges effort group of last season. Were they bad? No, they were REAL bad. I expect them to be not only bigger, but also actually quicker because of it in a couple of cases.
I know that sounds counter intuitive but sometimes quickness is gained from more muscle. Not speed, but quickness. Yeah I know, what’s the difference? I’ll explain. In the case of the big guys I judge quickness in how soon you can get from your stance to your blocking stance and/or where you need to be, complete with the power and positioning/leverage to get your assignment accomplished. Sometimes a little more muscle gets you that.
And for a squad that I judged to be slow to get to their blocks or positions poorly in order to complete the task too many time last year this will be a key part of them getting better. Quickness will help their overall timing and with it their power IMO.
Because the old adage that it all starts in the trenches is true.
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No Delany, it won't be your way or the highway. No matter how much you squawk. You want nine games? Who the fuck is stopping you?
The Big Ten plays a nine game schedule and has for the past two years.
The Committees job, and what the Founders intended, was to get the two best teams into the Championship game.
Its job is to get the top rated FOUR teams to a playoff.
I thought you followed stuff like this?
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No Delany, it won't be your way or the highway. No matter how much you squawk. You want nine games? Who the fuck is stopping you?
The Big Ten plays a nine game schedule and has for the past two years.
The Committees job, and what the Founders intended, was to get the two best teams into the Championship game.
Its job is to get the top rated FOUR teams to a playoff.
I thought you followed stuff like this?
No shit sherlock. I can read. I know they play 9 games. Sorry you can't read and get what I was saying. Not surprised though. Edited in for Jim: Cappy has read the article Skippy. The article states that the B10 plays a nine game conference schedule. Yet Skippy feels he needs to tell Cappy that they play nine games thinking he is so clever. Skippy should have realized that Cappy knew that they play nine games anybody that read the article would no they play nine games. So instead of being snarky Skippy should have realized that Cappy was actually telling Delamey nobody was stopping he and the B10 from continuing to play nines games. Anyone with a ninth grade education could have deciphered that. Cappy is sorry that Skippy is too stupid to make the simple connection. Believe me, Cappy is REALLY sorry.
I'm telling him to continue to do it if he wants too. He intimated that he was not going to go to 8 games because he 'loves his fans and it makes his games look shiny'. So keep doin it Jimmy D boy, nobody is stopping you. But don't act like it's the tell all of who should be in there stumpin for your conference.
As to the second part of your reply. No, it's their job to get the two best teams into the championship game. They use a four team format for that, but the ultimate goal is the get the two best teams into the championship game. Always has been. If they go to a six team format or an eight team format the ultimate goal will still be to get the two best teams into the championship game.
Nice to see you're still around though Skip. No go mow the lawn.
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No Delany, it won't be your way or the highway. No matter how much you squawk. You want nine games? Who the fuck is stopping you?
The Big Ten plays a nine game schedule and has for the past two years.
No shit sherlock. I can read. I know they play 9 games. Sorry you can't read and get what I was saying.
Oh, okay. You can read you just have trouble putting into words what you mean until asked for clarification;
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No Delany, it won't be your way or the highway. No matter how much you squawk. You want nine games? Who the fuck is stopping you?
The Big Ten plays a nine game schedule and has for the past two years.
No shit sherlock. I can read. I know they play 9 games. Sorry you can't read and get what I was saying.
Oh, okay. You can read you just have trouble putting into words what you mean until asked for clarification;
You know most of the time I tell myself that you just can't be that stupid. You make it hard for me to believe that though.
Lawns still waiting. Don't cut your foot off.
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.....but the ultimate goal is the get the two best teams into the championship game. Always has been. If they go to a six team format or an eight team format the ultimate goal will still be to get the
Well. From 1998 until 2013 every Championship was decided by the number one and two teams.
In very first year of the CFP the number four team beat the number two team.
Hmmmmm.
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.....but the ultimate goal is the get the two best teams into the championship game. Always has been. If they go to a six team format or an eight team format the ultimate goal will still be to get the
Well. From 1998 until 2013 every Championship was decided by the number one and two teams.
In very first year of the CFP the number four team beat the number two team.
Hmmmmm.
In case it has escaped your attention it hasn't been repeated since then. And IMO, and I'm sure the opinion of many others, it is unlikely to happen again in the near future.
But, not surprisingly, you fail to see the point again. So of course you continue to beat a dead horse. No that's not correct, rather you continue to beat a horse that was never alive in the first place.
The objective is to get the two best teams in the playoff championship game. Whether it's the 3 and 4 teams or any other combination, the objective is to get the two best teams into the championship game. Please sit back for a second and let your cognitive skills, such as they are, evaluate that.
And that lawn is not going to mow itself Skip. Hop to it. It's hot, remember to hydrate.
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In case it has escaped your attention it hasn't been repeated since then. And IMO it won’t be in the near future.
The objective is to get the two best teams in the playoff championship game. Whether it's the 3 and 4 teams or any other combination, the objective is to get the two best teams into the championship game.
Hmmmm. For 15 years we had a system to do that.
Then it was changed to the top four.
But you said the Committee is charged with getting the top two?
Thats not true.
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In case it has escaped your attention it hasn't been repeated since then. And IMO it won’t be in the near future.
The objective is to get the two best teams in the playoff championship game. Whether it's the 3 and 4 teams or any other combination, the objective is to get the two best teams into the championship game.
Hmmmm. For 15 years we had a system to do that.
Their was changed to the top four.
But you said the Committee is charged with getting the top two?
Thats not true.
Nope, didn't say that. Try and twist it Skippy but it's not happening. I said they were charged with getting the two best teams into the Championship Game. Just as the BCS was charged with getting the two best teams into the Championship game. That's their job. If OSU was a team that belonged in there they would have been there. They weren't. Delany is stumping for his conference. But none of the committees guidelines is a tell all do all mean all guideline.
And that lawn isn't going to mow itself.
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In case it has escaped your attention it hasn't been repeated since then. And IMO it won’t be in the near future.
The objective is to get the two best teams in the playoff championship game. Whether it's the 3 and 4 teams or any other combination, the objective is to get the two best teams into the championship game.
Hmmmm. For 15 years we had a system to do that.
Then it was changed to the top four.
But you said the Committee is charged with getting the top two?
Thats not true.
Nope, didn't say that.
That’s what you wrote.
And in the first year that didn’t happen.
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At the risk of setting you off on one of your "if you agree with the person I am arguing with you must be doing it only to piss me off" rants, if the objective of the committee is to get the two best teams in the championship why do they:
a. Select FOUR teams, and
b. Play the championship game?
The Committee's role is to select the four most deserving teams to play in the playoffs, based on the regular season. Given the rubric they operate under I think the committee has done an excellent job, each year. As does Delaney, by the way. That does not mean that the rubric they use is the only possible, or even the best, one. It also does not mean that the current rubric does not reward certain conference choices - note the presence of a Pure Prairie League championship game, and the lack of a 9th Conference game for God's Conference. I have always argued that the current system undervalues Championships, and that given the lack of true cross conference OOC competition and the four team limit there should only be Conference Champions in the playoffs.
Though I think the best way to meet my, and Delaney's, point is to have 8 teams in the playoffs.
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Though I think the best way to meet my, and Delaney's, point is to have 8 teams in the playoffs.
So do a lot of athletic directors. The current playoff contract ends in 2025 and this Spring
eight national nonconference games were announced. All but one of them was scheduled after 2025.
These include Florida's announcement of a home-and-home with Colorado in 2028-29 and a home-and-home series with Texas in 2030-31.The Gators haven't gone outside the state for a nonconference regular-season game since 1991, and it has not played a home-and-home out of state since 1989.
It looks like the power five scheduling is now being done by administrators who finally have grown some balls.
Even if the risk of playing a tough schedule does not mean a playoff spot it is also a hedge against declining attendance at cupcake games. Right now average attendance at FBS games is 41,000, a 5000 per game drop in the past few years.
Among the most proactive schedulers are AD's at SEC Schools who only play an 8 game schedule. Auburn has a home-and-home with Penn State in 2021-22. LSU is playing Texas each of the next two seasons. Clemson (2025-26) and Oklahoma (2027-28) have also done home-and-homes with the Tigers. Notre Dame will come to Georgia on Sept. 21, returning the 2017 game in South Bend, Indiana.
And consider the future schedules of Georgia.
Between 2020-33, Georgia will play 13 nonconference games against Power Five opponents and Notre Dame. That's the equivalent of one full season of must-see nonconference games. The current slate includes home-and-homes against UCLA and Clemson (twice). The total doesn't include the annual rivalry game with Georgia Tech.
The fact of the matter is schools without a power five team on their non conference schedules after 2025 are going to be hurting in SOS.
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The mental health part was somewhere between tone deaf and ignorantly heartless, but despite the source, not a bad idea, all in all.
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In case it has escaped your attention it hasn't been repeated since then. And IMO it won’t be in the near future.
The objective is to get the two best teams in the playoff championship game. Whether it's the 3 and 4 teams or any other combination, the objective is to get the two best teams into the championship game.
Hmmmm. For 15 years we had a system to do that.
Then it was changed to the top four.
But you said the Committee is charged with getting the top two?
Thats not true.
Nope, didn't say that.
That’s what you wrote.
And in the first year that didn’t happen.
Nope that's not what I wrote either. Your reading comprehension sucks as usual.
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At the risk of setting you off on one of your "if you agree with the person I am arguing with you must be doing it only to piss me off" rants, if the objective of the committee is to get the two best teams in the championship why do they:
a. Select FOUR teams, and
b. Play the championship game?
The Committee's role is to select the four most deserving teams to play in the playoffs, based on the regular season. Given the rubric they operate under I think the committee has done an excellent job, each year. As does Delaney, by the way. That does not mean that the rubric they use is the only possible, or even the best, one. It also does not mean that the current rubric does not reward certain conference choices - note the presence of a Pure Prairie League championship game, and the lack of a 9th Conference game for God's Conference. I have always argued that the current system undervalues Championships, and that given the lack of true cross conference OOC competition and the four team limit there should only be Conference Champions in the playoffs.
Though I think the best way to meet my, and Delaney's, point is to have 8 teams in the playoffs.
Your talking role I'm talking ultimate objective.
Now going under that premise you can re-write your post if you'd like. Although much of it I agree with. I would argue the Delaney is happy with the Committee part. His spouting off would seem to directly contradict that thought.
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At the risk of setting you off on one of your "if you agree with the person I am arguing with you must be doing it only to piss me off" rants, if the objective of the committee is to get the two best teams in the championship why do they:
a. Select FOUR teams, and
b. Play the championship game?
The Committee's role is to select the four most deserving teams to play in the playoffs, based on the regular season. Given the rubric they operate under I think the committee has done an excellent job, each year. As does Delaney, by the way. That does not mean that the rubric they use is the only possible, or even the best, one. It also does not mean that the current rubric does not reward certain conference choices - note the presence of a Pure Prairie League championship game, and the lack of a 9th Conference game for God's Conference. I have always argued that the current system undervalues Championships, and that given the lack of true cross conference OOC competition and the four team limit there should only be Conference Champions in the playoffs.
Though I think the best way to meet my, and Delaney's, point is to have 8 teams in the playoffs.
Your talking role I'm talking ultimate objective.
Hence b., supra.
Now going under that premise you can re-write your post if you'd like. Although much of it I agree with. I would argue the Delaney is happy with the Committee part. His spouting off would seem to directly contradict that thought.
Delaney, like me, thinks the Committee has done the right job under the current rubric. He wants that rubric changed.
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At the risk of setting you off on one of your "if you agree with the person I am arguing with you must be doing it only to piss me off" rants, if the objective of the committee is to get the two best teams in the championship why do they:
a. Select FOUR teams, and
b. Play the championship game?
The Committee's role is to select the four most deserving teams to play in the playoffs, based on the regular season. Given the rubric they operate under I think the committee has done an excellent job, each year. As does Delaney, by the way. That does not mean that the rubric they use is the only possible, or even the best, one. It also does not mean that the current rubric does not reward certain conference choices - note the presence of a Pure Prairie League championship game, and the lack of a 9th Conference game for God's Conference. I have always argued that the current system undervalues Championships, and that given the lack of true cross conference OOC competition and the four team limit there should only be Conference Champions in the playoffs.
Though I think the best way to meet my, and Delaney's, point is to have 8 teams in the playoffs.
Your talking role I'm talking ultimate objective.
Hence b., supra.
Now going under that premise you can re-write your post if you'd like. Although much of it I agree with. I would argue the Delaney is happy with the Committee part. His spouting off would seem to directly contradict that thought.
Delaney, like me, thinks the Committee has done the right job under the current rubric. He wants that rubric changed.
As to the first you're argument seems to be the chicken and the egg. There's not going to be a winner in that argument for either of us. I assume that is why you did it. Which is why I used the term ultimate objective. I assume you believe that since you have 'b' in there then you've done an end around on my point. When in actuality you've simply come to my end game with a few extra words.
As to the second, Delaney clearly IMO doesn't think the committee has done a great job. Because he is complaining that they haven't put what he wants to be most important into a greater degree of effect, under the current rubric as you put it. He's arguing/intimating that, if they had done their job correctly in the first place, the 'rubric' wouldn't need to be changed. Because he can't understand why the Buckeyes were placed where they were. Can't understand IMO translates to 'I don't agree'. At least all of the Empirical evidence points to that conclusion. I would however be willing to entertain your thoughts on why you think he is happy with the job the committee has been doing based solely on information in the article itself.
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The point was you had the Committee concerned with either too few or too many teams. I think the ultimate objective of the Committee is to field the right four teams, because that is the only thing they control. But if you think getting the right end result, why stop at two? Why would their ultimate end come after only one round?
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Cool. I respect your opinion.
And I think their ultimate objective is the same as the BCS's was. Get the two best teams in the championship game.
If something else comes along some day to supplant both of the above I would hazard that its ultimate objective will be to …..
You guessed it, get the two best teams into the Championship game. Rinse and repeat.
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Ryan Day plucks a LA linebacker and keeps tOSU recruiting juggernaut from missing Urban Meyer.
Another poorly kept secret was made public Wednesday afternoon when four-star linebacker Kourt Williams of Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco announced his commitment to Ohio State.
This should feel like an event. Williams is a national top-175 prospect who had scholarship offers from everyone, and he chose to leave the L.A. area to continue his football career across the country in Ohio. Accomplishing that is supposed to be hard. Yet somehow, Ryan Day has continued the tradition Urban Meyer created in making national recruiting feel ordinary.
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I've watched a lots of film on this kid. For once your hype is deserved Skip.
This kid is the real deal and has star potential IMO.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27265294/in-state-dt-recruit-roy-commits-lsu-again
(https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27265294/in-state-dt-recruit-roy-commits-lsu-again)In-state DT recruit Roy commits to LSU -- again
This slides the Bayou Bengals to first place in the preeminent RIVALS ranking service. Number one in the state according to them and the 73rd ranked prospect nationally.
Clemson is still my odds on favorite to take the final spot though even though they are currently 4th in the standings. The other three LSU, Alabama, and OSU all have 22 recruits while Clemson only has 18. It's a horse race and Clemson looks IMO to pull it out coming down the stretch.
As to Roy I've watched him for a couple of years now. He's got next level talent if his work ethic is stellar. He's a pure DT IMO but has short burst quickness rare for a man of his size. He needs to work on his upper body strength. Excellent pick-up for LSU.
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The same Village Idiot that came up with Pac 12 After Dark as "a great concept to expose West Coast Football to the rest of the country" has now come up with the alternate 9am kickoff so the "rest of the country" can enjoy Pac 12 football at a more traditional Noon start time. What a great idea. Now Pac 12 fans with small children can alternate between leaving their homes at 4:30am to get to the 9am game tailgates and arriving back home after midnight for those 8 and 8:30pm start times.
Do the rest of the country a favor and Fire Larry Scott Now
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I like getting the PAC12 games late here on the right coast. Someone needs to kick that idiot in the nads.
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The same Village Idiot that came up with Pac 12 After Dark as "a great concept to expose West Coast Football to the rest of the country" has now come up with the alternate 9am kickoff so the "rest of the country" can enjoy Pac 12 football at a more traditional Noon start time. What a great idea. Now Pac 12 fans with small children can alternate between leaving their homes at 4:30am to get to the 9am game tailgates and arriving back home after midnight for those 8 and 8:30pm start times.
Do the rest of the country a favor and Fire Larry Scott Now
A chill pill may be in order.
Scott is only responding to coaches, some of whom are growing weary of night games that finish after the east coast TVs have long been shut off. The complaining coaches don’t much like having nothing to on many Saturdays while waiting for an 8 or 9 o clock game. Nothing is certain but if they decide to experiment it would only affect one or two games assuming they can get approval by all teams involved. The current PAC TV set up is the worst of the power five conferences.
Meanwhile Fox is moving some big B1G games to noon and away from nighttime. The dynamics are changing. The PAC 12 has little to lose by thinking differently.
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As a patron years ago I know that sports bars love those late PAC 12 games. Just sayin.
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The current PAC TV set up is the worst of the power five conferences.
Yes. Thank you for making my point. Larry Scott is incompetent.
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The current PAC TV set up is the worst of the power five conferences.
Yes. Thank you for making my point. Larry Scott is incompetent.
So why do you oppose league coaches wanting to make it better?
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I must have missed the part where one of the coaches wanted to start games at 9am
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27328097/georgia-lb-cox-enters-transfer-portal (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27328097/georgia-lb-cox-enters-transfer-portal)
The dreaded portal strikes again.
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FUCK THETM pendingOHIO STATE UNIVERSITY
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27384520/ohio-state-seeks-trademark-word-the (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27384520/ohio-state-seeks-trademark-word-the)
The school, formally known as The Ohio State University, is seeking a trademark on the word "The" for use on clothing and hats. According to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, the filing was made Thursday.
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Gotta 'protect' the brand. LOL
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I doubt most ohio state grads can spell the
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Getting the hate started early this year, I see.
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But they should certainly understand dumbass
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I understand "THE U" is planning to contest the trademark effort.
Wouldn't "A Ohio State University" at least be accurate?
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They should trademark Duh. That would be more accurate
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I understand "THE U" is planning to contest the trademark effort.
Wouldn't "A Ohio State University" at least be accurate?
No, it is officially "the ohio state university" by statute. The are known to insist on the the but are notably lax on the lower case.
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I understand "THE U" is planning to contest the trademark effort.
Wouldn't "A Ohio State University" at least be accurate?
No, it is officially "the ohio state university" by statute. The are known to insist on the the but are notably lax on the lower case.
I understand the Ttm-pendingOSU moniker. And how dear it is to those who attend or pretend to have attended Ttm-pendingOSU.
I'm mocking the trademarking of what is probably the 2nd most used word in the English language, and suggested they go for the most used word in the English language.
and THE BAND is pissed.
They may get back together.
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Since most of their member's are deceased ohio st would love to play them in football
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There is more than one campus of Ohio State, which makes it even more odd that this particular campus insists on referring to it as if it is the only one.
I always suggested they adopt OSUc as a more accurate designator. Ohio State University, at Columbus
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Kinda like SUNY Brockport?
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But then that would be SUOH Columbus. Doesn't really have a ring to it.
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Kinda like SUNY Brockport?
More like Pennsylvania State University University Park, to avoid confusing it with Pennsylvania State University Beaver.
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Also, trojan, to be annoyingly technical, all six branches of the Ohio State Univerity are the same college, not separate universities. You get the same degree from the Lima branch. Meatchicken is the same way. My friends from high school who went to UM Flint had student rights at Ann Arbor, got student seats to games, transferred credits automatically. I believe University of California system campuses are autonomous. tOSU campuses are not.
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Both UM-Dearborn and UM-Flint are far cheaper to attend than Ann Arbor, though.
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Also, trojan, to be annoyingly technical, all six branches of the Ohio State Univerity are the same college, not separate universities. You get the same degree from the Lima branch. Meatchicken is the same way. My friends from high school who went to UM Flint had student rights at Ann Arbor, got student seats to games, transferred credits automatically. I believe University of California system campuses are autonomous. tOSU campuses are not.
annoyingly technical
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Both UM-Dearborn and UM-Flint are far cheaper to attend than Ann Arbor, though.
When I was debating whether to go to MSU or UM my MSU alum father told me I should go to UM and attend UM Flint and live at home to save money. Me: MSU here I come!
I think that was his plan all along.
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Kinda like SUNY Brockport?
More like Pennsylvania State University University Park, to avoid confusing it with Pennsylvania State University Beaver.
Speaking from a long ago road trip Penn St. beaver was pretty good.
oh you meant,
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I think Ann Arbor has the highest cost of attendance for out-of-staters for any state U in the country.
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Kinda like SUNY Brockport?
More like Pennsylvania State University University Park, to avoid confusing it with Pennsylvania State University Beaver.
Speaking from a long ago road trip Penn St. beaver was pretty good.
oh you meant,
The highway that runs through Mona a - home of.PSU Beaver - is the Beaver Valley Expressway, which immature dirty .indeed locals made sport of.
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I think Ann Arbor has the highest cost of attendance for out-of-staters for any state U in the country.
Not too late to have her transfer to Towson State!
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In for a penny in for $220k
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In for a penny in for $220k
it would almost be cheaper to buy her a house and establish residence for in state tuition.
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The thought has crossed my mind
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Kinda like SUNY Brockport?
More like Pennsylvania State University University Park, to avoid confusing it with Pennsylvania State University Beaver.
Not your best effort.
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Also, trojan, to be annoyingly technical, all six branches of the Ohio State Univerity are the same college, not separate universities. You get the same degree from the Lima branch. Meatchicken is the same way. My friends from high school who went to UM Flint had student rights at Ann Arbor, got student seats to games, transferred credits automatically. I believe University of California system campuses are autonomous. tOSU campuses are not.
Quite controlling. California, the last bastion of freedom?
Gaaaaak!
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Okay here ya go: Note: I didn't proofread this so no snarky comments on spelling and grammar please.
#11 Notre Dame
Kelly has loads of talent excellent coaches and TWO very good QBs. Yes I said two, young Phil Jurkovec will eventually make a name for himself playing the game of football. The OL will be a good one. Maybe not a great one but certainly good enough for Chip Long’s offense. The D will have talent but it will be IMO vulnerable early.
#10 Florida
Mullen is one of the better Head coaches out there IMO. He’s got enough talent and experience in the right places to make a run at the SEC East. It won’t be easy because frankly he doesn’t have nearly the talent on paper that Kirby Smart and Georgia does. But one thing I’ve noticed about Mullen is that his kids love him and play their hearts out for him.
#9 Oregon
Hedging my bets here(You’ll see why) as the Ducks are my pick to take the highly competitive PAC 12 North division. Washington, Wash St, Stanford and the Ducks could ultimately win it. But I’ll fly with the Ducks and hope I don’t become all wet if they’re splashed down. Good exceptional Head coach, rock solid QB, and a better than some people might think defense.
#8 Michigan
The schedule looks fairly good first and foremost. They get a week off before Wisconsin and PSU away will be tough too, don’t take Army lightly. The offensive line IMO is one of the best in the nation. QB will be good as Patterson should be solid. The Don Brown defense was a typical Brown defense. Except for the last two games. But they lost a shit-ton of tacklers. So the re-load is going to be critical. I’m not worried too much about the DL, I think that will be solid after a couple of tune up games. Brown has more than enough talent to make this defense a Top 5 squad again this year. He needs to work on the red zone though. That part of the Wolverine game was not a pretty look last year
#7 UTAH
Okay time to take a flyer. Most of the ‘smart’ money is on Oregon in the PAC 12. But if you look at the schedule it is the Utes that just might sneak into the Football Four at the end of the year. Would they even sniff the playoffs if they played in the SEC? NOPE. They’ve got a ton of returning starters and a pretty darned good defense. Playing in the weaker of the two PAC 12 divisions helps too. They get USC at home and they don’t have to play Stanford or Oregon at all, at least until they probably meet one of those two in the PAC conference championship game. So, all things considered they would be my sleeper team with a chance to slide into the Football Four. They’d have to go undefeated of course as that is probably the only way a PAC 12 team is getting in there. But it could happen.
#6 LSU
There’s always the odd chance that the Tigers beat Bama. If that happens who knows how far they’ll get. The Bayou Bengals return most of their offense and look to build on last year’s good season. The OL looks especially nasty. On defense make no mistake about it the Bengals will eff up your shit.
#5 Oklahoma:
Somebody who’s been in the playoffs a lot lately and has lots of offense. Will Hurts fit this offense? Time will tell. They’ll most likely lose one to somebody 52-51. But if it isn’t Texas they have a good shot to return. Can’t play defense worth a lick so they aren’t worth talkin about too much.
#4 Georgia:
One of the teams I figure is a bit better than the Buckeyes. And with some luck might end up being the number one team in the nation when all the dust settles. The Dogs take a huge hit in skill players on the offense. Why will they still be so good? That nasty OL and a good game manager QB. Andrew Thomas might be the best OT in the nation. The rest of them are big and bad. Enter D’Andre Swift, the next great Georgia RB. Barring injury Heisman talk about him will start almost as fast as he is. The WR’S will be raw but they’ll get some early season games to tighten that up. On defense there are some guys worth mentioning. One is DE Jermaine Johnson who could turn out to be a star sliding in from the JUCO ranks. Everything will flow around DT Jordan Davis though. Nolan Smith might get some playing time but he is a star of the future. But that future could come as early as the second half of the season. The LB corps is a bit undetermined. One guy I like is Nakobe Dean. The secondary will have to replace Baker, a tough act to follow. Tyson Campbell needs to get his shit together and play a whole lot better than he did last year. If he does the secondary is solid.
#3 Ohio State:
Now do I think there are a couple of other, even three teams, better than the Buckeyes? Well, yes I do. Nevertheless, in the game of playing conferences you have to put the Buckeyes here being the perennial favorite to win the Big Ten. Because really it is the Power Three and those other two conferences isn’t it. The consensus school of thought is the Buckeyed are going to be as pass happy as last year. Well I’m not so sure of that. Fields is IMO the real deal and if Mike Yurcich plays his cards right he could have a Baker Mayfield type player in the fold. Georgia’s offense wasn’t really set up to utilize Fields talent but Yurcich’s offense could thrive with him. Lots of good WR’s and Dobbins will shine often. The OL will be a project but the talent is there. Looking to see if Mumford will progress to stardom like I think he will. Myers is a sharp kid from what I can garner and that would go a long way towards the Buckeye offensive line being a success. On defense, well, They have a chance IMO to not just be good but scary good on the DL. I won’t name a bundle of names. Well maybe one Davon Hamilton. He’s not the flashy end types everyone else will beam in on. But he’s my kinda player if you know what I mean. The LB corps weren’t particularly flashy last year. But they at least return experience and sometimes that really pays dividends. Arnette and Okuda are as solid as it gets and Fuller is a tackling machine. So overall the Buckeyes are IMO on paper the best team in the Big Ten. But it’s a tough conference and the Buckeyes will probably get upset at least once. Twice probably knocks them out of the Football Four.
#2: Clemson
The missing resident Clemson fan won't be happy with this pick. But since he hasn't been here since his Tigers kicked Alabama's ass and is apparently on an eight month bender...
They now reload at Clemson just as the Tide has done for the last 15 years. They’ve got arguably the best QB in the nation behind center, at least I think he is. They’ve got an RB that had stats last year that should be getting lots of ink but isn’t for some reason.(Maybe it's that QB hogging all the ink) They also have a good OL and a bevy of very good WRs. On defense they re-load too. But, and this is why I have them at #2, they virtually lose their entire DL and a great back-up to boot. Christian Wilkins, Clelin Ferrell, Dexter Lawrence, Austin Bryant, and big-time backup/fill-in tackle Albert Huggins? Man that is a shitload of experience and talent, even for a deep team like the Tigers. If the Clemson DL is going to be had I figure it might be early. I say this because there won’t be the usual Clemson LB Corps to bail them out. Kendall Joseph and Tre Lamar are g o n e GONE. And that will also contribute to early season woes IMO. The new guys will be good but it might take a while for the front 7 to get their act together. This could put loads of pressure on what should be an excellent secondary. CB Trayvon Mullen is no longer there but I expect AJ Terrell to be a star. The safeties are agile and big-time bangers.
#1: Alabama
Some might put this as 1A and 1B but where is the guts in that? So it comes down to who I think wins it all. The Tide will be hard put to make it to the Football Four once again as Georgia waits for them before they can get to the end of the rainbow and that pot of gold. But if I have to make a pick…
The Crimson meanies have plenty of losses from last year but also plenty of players to reload with as usual. They will vie with a couple of other teams for the best receiving corps in the game. Personally I think they have the best. They will have a better QB than last year as experience always helps. Their OL, again IMO, will be a Top 10 OL. Their OTs will be bookend and Emil Ekiyor while raw and mostly untested should be a powerful inside presence. Womack is another big Tide body. The Tide should sport one of the larger overall offensive lines in the country. On defense, they lose a lot as usual. They have loads of replacements. I could go into detail and everyone here knows that I’d like nothing more. But ten paragraphs on Alabama’s defense isn’t necessary or probably wanted by anyone in here.
Honorable Mentions,
Texas: My only issue with the Longhorns is that they took a massive hit to the defense. They could be in the Football four, heck they could lose four games. I just don’t know.
PSU: Lots of talent but also lots of question marks, especially at QB. Good RBs will help and the Lions have those. But the OL has some question marks too. The defense IMO has the potential to surprise a lot of people and open some eyes.
Michigan St, Wisconsin, Washington, Washington St the aforementioned Stanford and several others.
Super Sleeper:
Florida St.:
Yep I said it. But the Seminoles still have a ton of residual Jumbo Fisher talent and could be a sleeping dragon or inevitably a paper tiger. Time will tell if I am right. But it might not take long to be proven wrong as they open up against Giant Killer Boise State in less than two weeks.
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I'm thinking Mike Locksley has a solid chance to win his third game as a college head coach this season. In fact I'm willing to bet on it!
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Cap -
You misspelled Michigan State as "Alabama".
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Just got a call from the Maryland ticket office offering to sell me tickets to what "promises to be the best season in a long time."
Well, "when and what time are the games?" I asked.
"When can you get here" was the response.
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You misspelled Michigan State as "Alabama".
I knew I would spell something wrong.
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My Top 11:
6. Alabama
Because I have them losing to Georgia and being the best team not in the CFP. They lost a lof of talent in the draft, sure, but they are strong and deep everywhere. Alabama is one of the handful of “reload” teams in CFB, so even if I did not know who was taking Quinnen Williams’s place (Phidarian Mathis? D J Dale?) I know it is a talent. Yhere is two, three deep talent all through the defense. Taglovailoa is one of the top returning quarterbacks, Najee Harris and Trey Sanders should become the top RB options without missing a beat, and Judge Jeudy gives Taglovailoa the top target in the NCAA. So why do I Have them missing the playoffs? Is it because the odds against Bama/ClemSIN V make me want to keep one out, and it isn’t going to be the only really good team in the South Atlantic League? Is it because I actually hate Nick Satan that much? Is it a hunch? Was Alabama tails? I’ll never tell.
You don't have to tell us. We already know which one it is.
Nice list, but it's like trying to hide a shit sandwich amidst all the other dishes at the family reunion picnic table.
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My Top 11:
6. Alabama
Because I have them losing to Georgia and being the best team not in the CFP. They lost a lof of talent in the draft, sure, but they are strong and deep everywhere. Alabama is one of the handful of “reload” teams in CFB, so even if I did not know who was taking Quinnen Williams’s place (Phidarian Mathis? D J Dale?) I know it is a talent. Yhere is two, three deep talent all through the defense. Taglovailoa is one of the top returning quarterbacks, Najee Harris and Trey Sanders should become the top RB options without missing a beat, and Judge Jeudy gives Taglovailoa the top target in the NCAA. So why do I Have them missing the playoffs? Is it because the odds against Bama/ClemSIN V make me want to keep one out, and it isn’t going to be the only really good team in the South Atlantic League? Is it because I actually hate Nick Satan that much? Is it a hunch? Was Alabama tails? I’ll never tell.
You don't have to tell us. We already know which one it is.
Nice list, but it's like trying to hide a shit sandwich amidst among all the over dishes at the family reunion picnic table.
1. If you know which one it is you are ahead of me. I just know I didn't flip a coin.
2. That is the last time I invite Octavia Spencer to my family reunion.
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It's kind of like Frau Blücher.
I pretty much know what is going to get the horses to neigh.
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You misspelled Michigan State as "Alabama".
What this forum really needs is a simple "thumbs up" or "like"
This was very funny
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Just got a call from the Maryland ticket office offering to sell me tickets to what "promises to be the best season in a long time."
Well, "when and what time are the games?" I asked.
"When can you get here" was the response.
Also very funny. Might have to resurrect LOW Highlights
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LOW?
I saw, seriously, only the last 3 minutes of Week Zero yesterday. Quite possibly the worst stretch of D 1 football I have ever seen.
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You misspelled Michigan State as "Alabama".
What this forum really needs is a simple "thumbs up" or "like"
This was very funny
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You can give a thumb up by changing the message icon when you respond.
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You misspelled Michigan State as "Alabama".
What this forum really needs is a simple "thumbs up" or "like"
This was very funny
Or maybe another finger instead of a thumb.
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LOW?
I saw, seriously, only the last 3 minutes of Week Zero yesterday. Quite possibly the worst stretch of D 1 football I have ever seen.
I assume you are talking about the Florida/Miami game?
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Down here in the Lowcountry for the next couple of weeks. Haven't seen hide, hair, or helmet of JB.
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Other than the obvious reason that television demands it, I see no rational reason for the college football season to start so early.
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Other than the obvious reason that television demands it, I see no rational reason for the college football season to start so early.
Not only does television demand it, I demand it too.
This college football junky needs a college football fix. ;-)
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I suggest going to YouTube and watching old bowl games. It's unseemly that the season starts before so many schools are even in session.
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I'm with Yank on this one.
I don't follow the college game as closely as most here, and I don't really watch much before the World Series or Halloween, which ends first, but IMO real football season should start after Labor Day.
Enjoy your vacation cap
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Trolling for Whiskeypriest:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/hard-to-beat-the-cheaters-harbaugh-michigan-at-college-football-crossroads/ar-AAGkLK5?ocid=ientp
(http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/hard-to-beat-the-cheaters-harbaugh-michigan-at-college-football-crossroads/ar-AAGkLK5?ocid=ientp)
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I suggest going to YouTube and watching old bowl games. It's unseemly that the season starts before so many schools are even in session.
Most schools started classes a week ago or this week. The rest begin next week. However it is done the students are on campus for the first football game. It was much different in the past when students on the quarter systems weren’t back until 2-3 weeks into the season.
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Fair enough. Far fewer schools on the quarter system than there once were. But I still see no reason to start college football when it's still 218 degrees in most places.
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I suggest going to YouTube and watching old bowl games. It's unseemly that the season starts before so many schools are even in session.
Good idea! I suggest getting that CFB off.season fix by going to YouTube and searching "little giants.fake.field goal" and "michigan state fumble punt return" and watching the resulting videos endlessly.
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Fair enough. Far fewer schools on the quarter system than there once were. But I still see no reason to start college football when it's still 218 degrees in most places.
Can’t put toothpaste back into the tube
Or fit today’s college football schedule into the Sept-November calendar.
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Wisky has named Jack Coan as their starting Quarterback. Expect Camp Randall to be full of the sound of one hand clapping this Autumn.
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I suggest going to YouTube and watching old bowl games. It's unseemly that the season starts before so many schools are even in session.
Re-runs? You talking about re-runs? Not about the live game. You talkin about re-runs. Not the live game. Re-runs.
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I'm with Yank on this one.
I don't follow the college game as closely as most here, and I don't really watch much before the World Series or Halloween, which ends first, but IMO real football season should start after Labor Day.
Enjoy your vacation cap
Thanks Rich. Nice weather down here.
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100 bucks on Michigan. 13-1 to win it all.
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100 bucks on Michigan. 13-1 to win it all.
Fool. Money. Parted.
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Losing Moses is probably the worst loss the Tide defense could suffer. HUGE.
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Losing Moses is probably the worst loss the Tide defense could suffer.
Well, until they meet the MSU offensive juggernaut in the playoffs, that is.
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I just realized that Maryland's homecoming game is against Michigan this season. This is the year!!!!
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I just realized that Maryland's homecoming game is against Michigan this season. This is the year!!!!
Now is clearly the time for irrational exuberance and unreasonable expectation. Reality can come in its own sweet time.
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Now is clearly the time for irrational exuberance and unreasonable expectation. Reality can come in its own sweet time.
:)
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Top 25 wagers for 8/29
Central Florida -44 vs Florida A and M
Georgia Tech +35 at Clemson
Texas A and M -33,5 vs Texas State
Utah -6.5 at BYU
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I thought you didn't bet on sports....
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Top 25 Friday 8/30
Tulsa +23.5 at Mich State
Wisconsin -10.5 at South Florida
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Top 25 Saturday 8/31
Ohio State -27.5 vs Florida Atlantic
Nebraska -36 vs South Alabama
Duke +33 at Alabama
Idaho +39.5 at Penn State
Syracuse -18.5 at Liberty
Vanderbilt +22 vs Georgia
LSU -27.5 vs Georgia Southern
Iowa -22 vs Miami Ohio
Michigan -34.5 vs Mid Tennessee St
Louisiana Tech +20.5 at Texas
Washington State -32 vs New Mexico State
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Top 25 Friday 8/30
Tulsa +23.5 at Mich State
Wisconsin -10.5 at South Florida
This may be the Sparties only shot to beat anyone this year by 24 points. I'll take the Golden Blowhards and the points.
The Bulls have a good enough offense to keep it close but I'll take the Baaaaadgers.
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We play Rutgers.
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Top 25 Saturday 8/31
Ohio State -27.5 vs Florida Atlantic
Nebraska -36 vs South Alabama
Duke +33 at Alabama
Idaho +39.5 at Penn State
Syracuse -18.5 at Liberty
Vanderbilt +22 vs Georgia
LSU -27.5 vs Georgia Southern
Iowa -22 vs Miami Ohio
Michigan -34.5 vs Mid Tennessee St
Louisiana Tech +20.5 at Texas
Washington State -32 vs New Mexico State
OSU should easily win by 4 TDs. But will they. Yeah, they probably will.
Others I'll take
South Alabama, Bama, Idaho, Cuse, Georgia, LSU, Miami of OH, Mid Tenn.
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We play Rutgers.
Point taken.
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I love watching UCLA games. Much more fun to watch than USC was last year!
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I love watching UCLA games. Much more fun to watch than USC was last year!
Schadenfreude gets a bad rap.
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I love watching UCLA games. Much more fun to watch than USC was last year!
Hang on.
Urban Meyer will make it fun again.
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I love watching UCLA games. Much more fun to watch than USC was last year!
I heard/read several pundits saying UCLA was a sleeper in the PAC.
Well, they certainly looked like they were sleepwalking through that game.
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One of the coolest looking TDs I've seen in a while Stevo.
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I love watching UCLA games. Much more fun to watch than USC was last year!
Schadenfreude gets a bad rap.
Wasn't he a highly sought after kid out of Texas, but got red-shirted last year?
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One of the coolest looking TDs I've seen in a while Stevo.
23rd Anniversary. Missed the game.
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JB or his moped checked in awhile?
sounds like he has some weather headed his way.
Cap-you still down there?
GO HUXLEY
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Here's hoping the lads from THE can somehow slip past Fla Atlantic today
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Yeah, how hard can it be to beat a team with a limp Red penis for a helmet logo?
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Should have let Florida Atlantic dot the "eye"
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One of the coolest looking TDs I've seen in a while Stevo.
23rd Anniversary. Missed the game.
In the air spinning around backwards, somehow the ball went inside the pylon.
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JB or his moped checked in awhile?
sounds like he has some weather headed his way.
Cap-you still down there?
GO HUXLEY
Yeah still here. If it comes this way it won't be until Thursday. There's some speculation now that it will stay mostly out to sea.
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As I've said since the day they hired him, Locksley as coach is a brilliant move for Terps.
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Duke absolutely stuffing Bama early.
Odds that. I can say that in, oh, 5 minutes are slim.
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JB or his moped checked in awhile?
sounds like he has some weather headed his way.
Cap-you still down there?
GO HUXLEY
Yeah still here. If it comes this way it won't be until Thursday. There's some speculation now that it will stay mostly out to sea.
jbot or Dorian?
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As I've said since the day they hired him, Locksley as coach is a brilliant move for Terps.
Kicked Howard's butt, but that was only one guy.
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JB or his moped checked in awhile?
sounds like he has some weather headed his way.
Cap-you still down there?
GO HUXLEY
Yeah still here. If it comes this way it won't be until Thursday. There's some speculation now that it will stay mostly out to sea.
jbot or Dorian?
I said out to sea not out to lunch.
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Something about a Northwestern game always makes me want to take a nap. Probably the Z's on their helmets.
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Nick seemed a little pissed.
Good thing he's up 32.
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I heard/read several pundits saying UCLA was a sleeper in the PAC.
You could have stopped right there...we would have got it.
Like the opposite of the Energizer Bunny...Still Sleeping!
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Hey, if Tennessee decides to fire Jeremy Pruitt, Greg Schiano is looking for work!
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Tennessee may never live this one down. Ga St one all of 2 games last year.
Teams that don't play defense...
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Pruitt has zoomed to #2 on the "Most Fired" list, trailing only "That guy Urban Meyer replaced at USC".
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Pruitt was supposed to be a defensive guru. Doesn't seem like it.
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8-3 against Kid's spread. I can live with that. A bit disappointed in Idaho though.
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4 SEC teams beaten by non power five teams.
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Fla State offense was non-existent in the 2nd half. PUNT PUNT PUNT FUMBLE FUMBLE WHATEVER. Boise had the ball constantly and the poorly conditioned Seminole DL was mushy for lack of a better word. Slow too.
Teams that don't play defense...
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
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Re: College Football
« Reply #2355 on: Today at 06:36:20 PM »
SEC SOS took a big hit Saturday. Four upset losses and an Arkansas squeak-by an FCS Portland State.
The league only plays 8 conference games and still has plenty patsies on its remaining non-conference lineup:
Charleston Southern,NewMexico State,Murray State,Tulane, UT Martin,Chattanooga,Southeastern Louisiana,Arkansas State,
LaMar,Northwestern State, Southeast Missouri State, Troy, UTSA, Western Carolina, Samford, Abilene Christian, and East Tennessee State,
Which means a lot of pressure is on LSU this week at Texas, and Texas A and M at Clemson.
Otherwise it will be another battle between Alabama and Georgia but only the Champ will make the playoff.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #2355 on: Today at 06:36:20 PM »
SEC SOS took a big hit Saturday. Four upset losses and an Arkansas squeak-by an FCS Portland State.
The league only plays 8 conference games and still has plenty patsies on its remaining non-conference lineup:
Charleston Southern,NewMexico State,Murray State,Tulane, UT Martin,Chattanooga,Southeastern Louisiana,Arkansas State,
LaMar,Northwestern State, Southeast Missouri State, Troy, UTSA, Western Carolina, Samford, Abilene Christian, and East Tennessee State,
Which means a lot of pressure is on LSU this week at Texas, and Texas A and M at Clemson.
Otherwise it will be another battle between Alabama and Georgia but only the Champ will make the playoff.
Sigh.
It's a little early for me to be schooling you again.
The Big Ten Champ and other champs could all be two game losers.(With the probable exception of Clemson) One of the two SEC teams you so erringly leave out could only have 'one' loss. This is why Delaney was whining about the Conference Champion blah blah blah. He's smarter than you. He can see the possibilities.
PLEASE, try to start paying attention Skip old sock.
Sidenote: The Ducks are already swimming upstream as they got beat by Auburn.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
Thinking Fisher might be the best defensive player in the country. He reminds me of his coach.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
Thinking Fisher might be the best defensive player in the country. He reminds me of his coach.
He's a pure pleasure to watch that's for sure.
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Now that's the Oklahoma defense I've come to know.
This will probably be one of those rarity games that I'll have to agree with Stevo about offense.
Or, when nobody plays defense, well then it's all about the offense I suppose. ;-)
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Re: College Football
« Reply #2355 on: Today at 06:36:20 PM »n
SEC SOS took a big hit Saturday. Four upset losses and an Arkansas squeak-by an FCS Portland State.
The league only plays 8 conference games and still has plenty patsies on its remaining non-conference lineup:
Charleston Southern,NewMexico State,Murray State,Tulane, UT Martin,Chattanooga,Southeastern Louisiana,Arkansas State,
LaMar,Northwestern State, Southeast Missouri State, Troy, UTSA, Western Carolina, Samford, Abilene Christian, and East Tennessee State,
Which means a lot of pressure is on LSU this week at Texas, and Texas A and M at Clemson.
Otherwise it will be another battle between Alabama and Georgia but only the Champ will make the playoff.
The Big Ten Champ and other champs could all be two game losers.(With the probable exception of Clemson) One of the two SEC teams you so erringly leave out could only have 'one' loss.
It’s week one and the SEC is in a hole based on SOS.
Good luck on your week 14 hopes.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #2355 on: Today at 06:36:20 PM »n
SEC SOS took a big hit Saturday. Four upset losses and an Arkansas squeak-by an FCS Portland State.
The league only plays 8 conference games and still has plenty patsies on its remaining non-conference lineup:
Charleston Southern,NewMexico State,Murray State,Tulane, UT Martin,Chattanooga,Southeastern Louisiana,Arkansas State,
LaMar,Northwestern State, Southeast Missouri State, Troy, UTSA, Western Carolina, Samford, Abilene Christian, and East Tennessee State,
Which means a lot of pressure is on LSU this week at Texas, and Texas A and M at Clemson.
Otherwise it will be another battle between Alabama and Georgia but only the Champ will make the playoff.
The Big Ten Champ and other champs could all be two game losers.(With the probable exception of Clemson) One of the two SEC teams you so erringly leave out could only have 'one' loss.
It’s week one and the SEC is in a hole based on SOS.
Good luck on your week 14 hopes.
You're the one that projected to the playoffs after week one and declared the SEC wasn't going to get two teams in. Not me. I just pointed out your homeriffic usual bias.
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Re: College Football
« Reply #2355 on: Today at 06:36:20 PM »n
SEC SOS took a big hit Saturday. Four upset losses and an Arkansas squeak-by an FCS Portland State.
The league only plays 8 conference games and still has plenty patsies on its remaining non-conference lineup:
Charleston Southern,NewMexico State,Murray State,Tulane, UT Martin,Chattanooga,Southeastern Louisiana,Arkansas State,
LaMar,Northwestern State, Southeast Missouri State, Troy, UTSA, Western Carolina, Samford, Abilene Christian, and East Tennessee State,
Which means a lot of pressure is on LSU this week at Texas, and Texas A and M at Clemson.
Otherwise it will be another battle between Alabama and Georgia but only the Champ will make the playoff.
The Big Ten Champ and other champs could all be two game losers.(With the probable exception of Clemson) One of the two SEC teams you so erringly leave out could only have 'one' loss.
It’s week one and the SEC is in a hole based on SOS.
Good luck on your week 14 hopes.
You're the one that projected to the playoffs after week one and declared the SEC wasn't going to get two teams in. Not me. I just pointed out your homeriffic usual bias.
You should pay attention to what I wrote.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
Boise State played "better" offense.
One sided teams fly as far.as one winged birds.
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Tonight
Notre Dame -18.5
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Why does somebody who "rarely" bets on sports continue to discuss gambling?
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Play or fucking don't
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I'll fucking don't
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And thank God, too. If I listened to the non-gambler Kid I would have lost my house.
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And thank God, too. If I listened to the non-gambler Kid I would have lost my house.
Unless you took Louisville and the points.
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Now why would I have done that? He told us all to take Notre Dame and give the points.
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Well so much for Southern hospitality. ;-)
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Re: College Football
« Reply #2355 on: Today at 06:36:20 PM »n
SEC SOS took a big hit Saturday. Four upset losses and an Arkansas squeak-by an FCS Portland State.
The league only plays 8 conference games and still has plenty patsies on its remaining non-conference lineup:
Charleston Southern,NewMexico State,Murray State,Tulane, UT Martin,Chattanooga,Southeastern Louisiana,Arkansas State,
LaMar,Northwestern State, Southeast Missouri State, Troy, UTSA, Western Carolina, Samford, Abilene Christian, and East Tennessee State,
Which means a lot of pressure is on LSU this week at Texas, and Texas A and M at Clemson.
Otherwise it will be another battle between Alabama and Georgia but only the Champ will make the playoff.
The Big Ten Champ and other champs could all be two game losers.(With the probable exception of Clemson) One of the two SEC teams you so erringly leave out could only have 'one' loss.
It’s week one and the SEC is in a hole based on SOS.
Good luck on your week 14 hopes.
You're the one that projected to the playoffs after week one and declared the SEC wasn't going to get two teams in. Not me. I just pointed out your homeriffic usual bias.
You should pay attention to what I wrote.
You should try to understand what you wrote.
Maybe then you'd stop looking so fracking stupid.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
Boise State played "better" offense.
One sided teams fly as far.as one winged birds.
Actually I thought it was a case of a good defense being poorly conditioned. The Nole defense was clearly gassed in the second half. Maybe you watched a different game?
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Why does somebody who "rarely" bets on sports continue to discuss gambling?
Maybe he's trying to learn from his betters. Help the guy out dude. ;-)
I was on the road but if I'd seen his post I would have probably taken Ville and the points.
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And thank God, too. If I listened to the non-gambler Kid I would have lost my house.
I lost my house once. I was walking home(apartment actually but the theory still applies) I was incredibly blitzed. I had lived in three different apartments in a ten block radius from age 18 and couldn't remember which one of them was my current residence. Sat on the street curb for about an hour before I sobered up enough to realize which one I lived in.
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Now why would I have done that? He told us all to take Notre Dame and give the points.
His post read
Notre Dame -18.5
It could be read that he was betting on Notre Dame but it never advised anyone else to do the same.
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Oh jeez. You win.
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Oh jeez. You win.
No Bro you're right, I would have taken it to mean take ND and give the points too. And by default he was advising you to do the same. Most anyone would have.
I'm just wondering why you're so pissed at him. It's not like he is a total dumb ass like Ol Skippy. And thus he gets on your last good nerve constantly. But then I suppose you have other good reasons to be annoyed with him.
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Massey has some big movers in his ratings.
The biggest of note is USC hopping up a whopping 26 slots.
Stanford up 10 after polishing off mighty Northwestern.
The Cavs up 17.
SMU up 26.
Mizzou drops 21 and South Caro 24. Tenn down 36.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
Boise State played "better" offense.
One sided teams fly as far.as one winged birds.
Actually I thought it was a case of a good defense being poorly conditioned. The Nole defense was clearly gassed in the second half. Maybe you watched a different game?
I saw the game where a team scored 31 first half points and 0 second half points.
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And thank God, too. If I listened to the non-gambler Kid I would have lost my house.
I lost my house once. I was walking home(apartment actually but the theory still applies) I was incredibly blitzed. I had lived in three different apartments in a ten block radius from age 18 and couldn't remember which one of them was my current residence. Sat on the street curb for about an hour before I sobered up enough to realize which one I lived in.
This was... last.weekend?
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Massey has some big movers in his ratings.
The biggest of note is USC hopping up a whopping 26 slots.
Stanford up 10 after polishing off mighty Northwestern.
The Cavs up 17.
SMU up 26.
Mizzou drops 21 and South Caro 24. Tenn down 36.
I take it the USC is Southern California? Did Massey only watch the first quarter?
Daniels is out for the season. But I am sure SC will "FIHT ON".
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
Boise State played "better" offense.
One sided teams fly as far.as one winged birds.
Actually I thought it was a case of a good defense being poorly conditioned. The Nole defense was clearly gassed in the second half. Maybe you watched a different game?
I saw the game where a team scored 31 first half points and 0 second half points.
I saw a game where a defense couldn't hold an 18 point lead.
I'll add I saw not only a gassed defense but a gassed offense too. Sometimes the oversized beef dehydrates faster than the lighter kind. Sometimes one team is simply in better shape.
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And thank God, too. If I listened to the non-gambler Kid I would have lost my house.
I lost my house once. I was walking home(apartment actually but the theory still applies) I was incredibly blitzed. I had lived in three different apartments in a ten block radius from age 18 and couldn't remember which one of them was my current residence. Sat on the street curb for about an hour before I sobered up enough to realize which one I lived in.
This was... last.weekend?
LOL
I gave up smoking and drinking close to 40 years ago.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
Boise State played "better" offense.
One sided teams fly as far.as one winged birds.
Actually I thought it was a case of a good defense being poorly conditioned. The Nole defense was clearly gassed in the second half. Maybe you watched a different game?
I saw the game where a team scored 31 first half points and 0 second half points.
I saw a game where a defense couldn't hold an 18 point lead.
One TD in the second half and that is moot.
I mean, after Friday the good lord knows I am hoping Defense wins championships but I doubt it. TEAMS win championships.
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EVENTUAL 2019-2020 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 27, Western Michigan 3
I do not care if it includes sacks and a couple of snaps over the quarterback’s head. – 73 rushing yards is impressive. On the other hand, there is a real chance that any team that scores two touchdowns on us will beat us. Because defense does not win championships, teams do. And a one winged bird won’t fly. We need Eventual 2019 Heisman Trophy Winner Brian Lewerke to start living up to the hype. Namely, my hype as set forth in the previous sentence.
Army 24, Meatchicken 21
Is this wishful thinking? Fuck yes it is wishful thinking. Can I come up with a rationale to cover for that? Maaaybe. They have a strong defense and a diverse and unique run game that can give a young defense fi… no, I cannot justify it. Meatchicken 35, Army 7.
THE 34, Cincinnati 17
I think Fields can handle the offense, though I think he needs to establish the longer passing game to free up the running game and help with pass protection. I was mainly interested in watching the Defense against the phallically helmeted Fihting Kiffins. And the defense looked pretty good until boredom set in. That is a problem; I have never warmed to the idea of turning it on and off in any sport, but particularly football.
Pennsylvania State 42, Buffalo 3
Assuming that is the Bulls and not the Bills…. PSU did what it needed to do against the FCS cupcake. The Bills look to be all run, and I do not think all run can take down a stronger team. Not 144 points, or whatever they put up when they vandalized Idaho, but more than enough their second of five straight opening cakewalks.
CelmSIN 37, The Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas 10
True fun fact: officially, the “A&M” now stands for… A&M. I think you need a balanced offense to take down Clemson – at least until their wins are vacated by the NCAA for recruiting violations - unless you are Indiana. Clemson cannot beat Indiana – and I think TAMU is too run dependent. Jennifer Lawrence looked a little off against Tech, but Etienne is a star.
Louisiana State 27, Texas 20
It is a little early to start with the obituaries for the dominance of God’s Conference. It is top heavy, to be sure, but the top is, well, heavy. I do like Texas and what Herman is doing there, but I think LSU Burrows through the ‘horn defense enough to pull one out for the conference.
Stanford 20, Southern California 10
Sorry troj, but that Stanford defense looked strong, especially for a true freshman who thought he was going to hold the clip board for a while. I realize Stanford may also be on their backup QB, but I think it matters more for SC.
Syracuse 23, Maryland 20
The dream is over, yankguy. Syracuse is the second best team in the South Atlantic League, I guess, but that is pretty feint praise. Nevertheless, they should be able to handle the Terps.
Minnesota 21, Fresno State 12
Mind you, sensible Minnesotans are in bed before this game kicks off. I am not sold on the Gophers, but I was unimpressed by the Raisins (I assume that is their name. Fresno State Gateway to Yosemites is too long) Saturday.
Colorado 24, Nebraska 13
I do not buy the Frostian hype. I think Nebraska is ordinary. Best player on the field is Shenault.
Brigham Young 23, Tennessee 21
I am only picking this game to dog pile on Tennessee. What a horrible, horrible loss Saturday. Horrible.
Washington 42, Cal 17
There are not a lot of quality intersectional games this week, so I am wrapping up with a couple of early season conference games.
Arkansas 10, Old Mississippi 5
A team that barely squeaked past a Neil Lomax-less Portland State v. a team that lost to a midling strong mid major. Wake me if it is ever over.
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For Maryland it's all about getting ready for their homecoming game against Michigan.
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Daniels is out for the season.
I feel bad for him as a person. Not disappointed he will not be our starter.
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I realize Stanford may also be on their backup QB, but I think it matters more for SC.
Actually what really matters is... which back up is better?
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I realize Stanford may also be on their backup QB, but I think it matters more for SC.
Actually what really matters is... which back up is better?
Well, "better" given the demands placed on the QB by the two systems.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
Boise State played "better" offense.
One sided teams fly as far.as one winged birds.
Actually I thought it was a case of a good defense being poorly conditioned. The Nole defense was clearly gassed in the second half. Maybe you watched a different game?
I saw the game where a team scored 31 first half points and 0 second half points.
I saw a game where a defense couldn't hold an 18 point lead.
One TD in the second half and that is moot.
I mean, after Friday the good lord knows I am hoping Defense wins championships but I doubt it. TEAMS win championships.
I this case I think it was more that one team was better conditioned than the other. On both sides of the rock.
As to the Sparties I'm always impressed to varying degrees with their defense. I think they will have one of their better ones this year.
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
Boise State played "better" offense.
One sided teams fly as far.as one winged birds.
Actually I thought it was a case of a good defense being poorly conditioned. The Nole defense was clearly gassed in the second half. Maybe you watched a different game?
I saw the game where a team scored 31 first half points and 0 second half points.
I saw a game where a defense couldn't hold an 18 point lead.
One TD in the second half and that is moot.
I mean, after Friday the good lord knows I am hoping Defense wins championships but I doubt it. TEAMS win championships.
I this case I think it was more that one team was better conditioned than the other. On both sides of the rock.
As to the Sparties I'm always impressed to varying degrees with their defense. I think they will have one of their better ones this year.
You don't think 49 second half yards with 4 first downs on offense might have a little something to do with the defense's being gassed in the second half?
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Power conference programs Boise State has beaten since 2006:
Oklahoma
Oregon (3 times)
Virginia Tech
Georgia
Arizona State
Washington (twice)
Arizona
Virginia
Wazzu
Oregon State (3 times)
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And thank God, too. If I listened to the non-gambler Kid I would have lost my house.
I lost my house once. I was walking home(apartment actually but the theory still applies) I was incredibly blitzed. I had lived in three different apartments in a ten block radius from age 18 and couldn't remember which one of them was my current residence. Sat on the street curb for about an hour before I sobered up enough to realize which one I lived in.
😂😂
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Syracuse is the second best team in the South Atlantic League, I guess, but that is pretty feint praise. Nevertheless, they should be able to handle the Terps.
I always spelled the word F-A-I-N-T as in “ damned him with faint praise.
Faint meaning barely perceptible therefore making the phrase an insult. ( as a verb it means to pass out).
Feint is mostly used as a verb but even as a noun it describes an action that deceives a opponent to achieve a desirable goal( He feinted a handoff and threw a TD pass to a wide-open receiver-his Hand-off was a feint that was followed by TD pass)
Maybe the above usage was a typo.
Or maybe we have a new usage.
I come down on the side of FAINT being the correct usage.
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Top 25 Friday 9/6
Boise State -10.5 vs Marshall
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Northwestern plays defense.
Teams that don't play offense....
No. Stanford just played 'better' defense.
Boise State played "better" offense.
One sided teams fly as far.as one winged birds.
Actually I thought it was a case of a good defense being poorly conditioned. The Nole defense was clearly gassed in the second half. Maybe you watched a different game?
I saw the game where a team scored 31 first half points and 0 second half points.
I saw a game where a defense couldn't hold an 18 point lead.
One TD in the second half and that is moot.
I mean, after Friday the good lord knows I am hoping Defense wins championships but I doubt it. TEAMS win championships.
I this case I think it was more that one team was better conditioned than the other. On both sides of the rock.
As to the Sparties I'm always impressed to varying degrees with their defense. I think they will have one of their better ones this year.
You don't think 49 second half yards with 4 first downs on offense might have a little something to do with the defense's being gassed in the second half?
Once again, in case you missed it, I think it was a case of the team being poorly conditioned on both sides of the rock.
But since defense is clearly more important, always has been, I of course concentrated on that. I will however, if it will appease you, concede that the Nole offense didn't help matters. Still from what I saw the Nole defense had little to no real DL rotation to speak of and that is always a bad thing in Early season Florida day games. I used to live in Florida and anyone that has can attest tht the heat is oppressive. Much more so than Arizona type desert games. It's a different type of heat.
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Syracuse is the second best team in the South Atlantic League, I guess, but that is pretty feint praise. Nevertheless, they should be able to handle the Terps.
I always spelled the word F-A-I-N-T as in “ damned him with faint praise.
Faint meaning barely perceptible therefore making the phrase an insult. ( as a verb it means to pass out).
Feint is mostly used as a verb but even as a noun it describes an action that deceives a opponent to achieve a desirable goal( He feinted a handoff and threw a TD pass to a wide-open receiver-his Hand-off was a feint that was followed by TD pass)
Maybe the above usage was a typo.
Or maybe we have a new usage.
I come down on the side of FAINT being the correct usage.
Normally I look on people that nitpick about spelling and grammar as slightly annoying. And in in this case I'd probably overlook it as poetic justice. Since Stevo, to paraphrase, after all 'works with words'... Sorry Stevie LOL. Besides he may have meant it in a football sense in some way. He's overly clever like that.
But since it is you Skippy, one of the biggest dolts I've ever stumbled across and Stevo is one of the smartest guys I've ever stumbled across. Shaddap Skip.
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Autocorrect.
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Top 25 Saturday 9/7
Michigan -22.5 vs Army
Cincinnati +16 at Ohio State
Maryland -2 vs Syracuse
Utah -21.5 vs Northern Illinois
Wisconsin -35 vs Central Michigan
Colorado +4 vs Nebraska
Clemson -17.5 vs Texas A and M
New Mexico State +55.5 at Alabama
Central Florida -10.5 at Florida Atlantic
Penn State -29.5 vs Buffalo
Texas +6.5 vs LSU
Nevada +24 at Oregon
Auburn -17.5 vs Tulane
Michigan State -16 vs Western Michigan
CAL +14 at Washington
USC -1 vs Stanford
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MICHIGAN STATE 28, Western Michigan 3
And a one winged bird won’t fly.
Back in the day the U.S. had a jet called the flying wing. The Sparties have a good defense. It will win the game for them.
Army 24, Michigan 33:
Army is a good team. But they're going to lose to the Wolverines. The Michigan defense will be one of the best in college football statistically this season.
THE 34, Cincinnati 17:
I like the THE, funny stuff dude. I think Fields is going to be a great player. He'll pass, and run, just as much as needed. The OSU defense intrigues me. Cincy won't be able to hang with the Buckeyed.
Penn State 32, Buffalo 13:
Not impressed with the Lions yet. But I'm optimistic.
Clemson 30, Texas A&M 31:
Yep. I wrote it and I even believe it.
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Louisiana State 27, Texas 26:
Much like the Auburn/Oregon game had the feel of a college football playoff elimination game so does this one. Texas has the home field advantage. LSU has IMO the better defense. But the Horns will be fired up more than usual. The game will probably come down to the last few minutes and whether a team scores or is stopped.
Stanford 26, Southern California 27:
I like the USC Frosh QB. He has good pocket instinct and feels pressure well. And when he does he keeps his head level while moving and is accurate on those moving passes. If that big beefy OL of his can play a decent game I think he'll do enough to beat the Cardinal.
Syracuse 27, Maryland 20:
The new Cuse QB is not the runner his predecessor was. And that hurts. Still I like that Cuse D.
Minnesota 21, Fresno State 12:
Okay so Steve picked the Gophers. If he's willing to do it so am I.
Colorado 24, Nebraska 23:
I think this game will be close and I want to take Nebraska. I just can't seem to make my fingers do it.
Brigham Young 20, Tennessee 34:
Yes Tennessee looked terrible last week. But they aren't that bad. I expect some fire out of them in this one.
Washington 42, Cal 17:
Washington is a well balanced well coached team with a sprinkling of NFL caliber players here and there.
Arkansas 10, Old Mississippi 5:
I'm not sure I care any more that Steve does. I expect he put this game in there just so he can denigrate a couple of SEC teams.
Vandy 29, Purdue 24:
Me on the other hand am a fair minded guy. I'll make fun of both conferences. How bad did Vandy look in the Georgia game? Like Rocky Balboa chasing the chicken. Purdue? Well they certainly know how to choke. If they lose this game their bowl hopes are probably out the window even this early in the year. And they might as well be doing something with their chicken too.
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I come down on the side of FAINT being the correct usage.
unless you're trying to fake somebody out :)
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Normally I look on people that nitpick about spelling and grammar as slightly annoying.
I know what you are saying, but I actually like a well thought out discussion like this. There are a lot of examples in the English language where a homonym (or even a similar sounding but not phonetically exact match) is used by some people as the de facto standard for the expression. I sort of find it fascinating to hear the speculation of how one arises vs the other. Many times they are both "ok" in their own way.
One example that comes to mind is "We need to flush/flesh out that example further." Heard it both ways and they both could be appropriate
- Flush: it is murky and flushing it out will clarify/make it more clear
- Flesh: it is a skeleton idea and needs more meat on the bones
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Top 25 Saturday 9/7
Michigan -22.5 vs Army
Cincinnati +16 at Ohio State
Maryland -2 vs Syracuse
Utah -21.5 vs Northern Illinois
Wisconsin -35 vs Central Michigan
Colorado +4 vs Nebraska
Clemson -17.5 vs Texas A and M
New Mexico State +55.5 at Alabama
Central Florida -10.5 at Florida Atlantic
Penn State -29.5 vs Buffalo
Texas +6.5 vs LSU
Nevada +24 at Oregon
Auburn -17.5 vs Tulane
Michigan State -16 vs Western Michigan
CAL +14 at Washington
USC -1 vs Stanford
Army, OSU, Cuse, N. Ill, Central Mich, Colorado, Tex A&M, Bama, UCF, Buffalo, Texas, Oregon, Auburn, Mich St, Wash, USC
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Oh well we agree on 6
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Oh well we agree on 6
...and USC?
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GO ARMY!
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Maryland is the new Big 10 powerhouse.
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Am I going to have to start taking Maryland seriously?
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I guess DJ Durkin was able to change the culture?
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Just like I predicted. Locksley was a brilliant hire!
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LSU has a QB. Didn't see that coming😀
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LSU has a QB. Didn't see that coming😀
Guess you missed him at LSU last year.
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LSU has a QB. Didn't see that coming😀
Not good enough for the THE but good enough for God's Conference.
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LSU has a QB. Didn't see that coming😀
Guess you missed him at LSU last year.
He didn't play anything like that last year Dimsdale
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Clearly our offense responds to hideously garish uniforms.
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I realize Stanford may also be on their backup QB, but I think it matters more for SC.
Actually what really matters is... which back up is better?
Well, "better" given the demands placed on the QB by the two systems.
We got our answer...
Kedon Slovis > Davis Mills
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I realize Stanford may also be on their backup QB, but I think it matters more for SC.
Actually what really matters is... which back up is better?
Well, "better" given the demands placed on the QB by the two systems.
We got our answer...
Kedon Slovis > Davis Mills
I read this earlier in the week, Although where I read it escapes me.
I like the USC Frosh QB. He has good pocket instinct and feels pressure well. And when he does he keeps his head level while moving and is accurate on those moving passes. If that big beefy OL of his can play a decent game I think he'll do enough to beat the Cardinal.
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Top 25 Saturday 9/7
Michigan -22.5 vs Army l
Cincinnati +16 at Ohio State l
Maryland -2 vs Syracuse w
Utah -21.5 vs Northern Illinois l
Wisconsin -35 vs Central Michigan w
Colorado +4 vs Nebraska w
Clemson -17.5 vs Texas A and M l
New Mexico State +55.5 at Alabama w
Central Florida -10.5 at Florida Atlantic w
Penn State -29.5 vs Buffalo w
Texas +6.5 vs LSU l
Nevada +24 at Oregon l
Auburn -17.5 vs Tulane w
Michigan State -16 vs Western Michigan w
CAL +14 at Washington w
USC -1 vs Stanford w
10-6
10-7 week (lost Boise St)
19-16 overall
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LSU rises 4 spots in popularity polls thanks to the most- promising offense the Tigers have fielded since 2007.
Maybe its days as a power-five mediocrity are about over.
If it can shore up the defense.
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Top 25 Saturday 9/7
Michigan -22.5 vs Army l
Cincinnati +16 at Ohio State l
Maryland -2 vs Syracuse w
Utah -21.5 vs Northern Illinois l
Wisconsin -35 vs Central Michigan w
Colorado +4 vs Nebraska w
Clemson -17.5 vs Texas A and M l
New Mexico State +55.5 at Alabama w
Central Florida -10.5 at Florida Atlantic w
Penn State -29.5 vs Buffalo w
Texas +6.5 vs LSU l
Nevada +24 at Oregon l
Auburn -17.5 vs Tulane w
Michigan State -16 vs Western Michigan w
CAL +14 at Washington w
USC -1 vs Stanford w
10-6
10-7 week (lost Boise St)
19-16 overall
Beats me what I had Kid. I'm not going to keep track. I'll make the picks when you slap them up on the board but I'm not going to keep track. If you want to you're welcome to it.
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LSU rises 4 spots in popularity polls thanks to the most- promising offense the Tigers have fielded since 2007.
Maybe its days as a power-five mediocrity are about over.
If it can shore up the defense.
ROTFLMAO.
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LSU is the SEC equivalent of the B1G’s Penn State. Lots of media hype but not much to show for it.
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LSU is the SEC equivalent of the B1G’s Penn State. Lots of media hype but not much to show for it.
That's a pretty good call, but as you say, maybe that is changing.
Nickie seems awfully anxious about something these days...maybe he is starting to get worried about more than Georgia?
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Top 25 Saturday 9/7
Michigan -22.5 vs Army l
Cincinnati +16 at Ohio State l
Maryland -2 vs Syracuse w
Utah -21.5 vs Northern Illinois l
Wisconsin -35 vs Central Michigan w
Colorado +4 vs Nebraska w
Clemson -17.5 vs Texas A and M l
New Mexico State +55.5 at Alabama w
Central Florida -10.5 at Florida Atlantic w
Penn State -29.5 vs Buffalo w
Texas +6.5 vs LSU l
Nevada +24 at Oregon l
Auburn -17.5 vs Tulane w
Michigan State -16 vs Western Michigan w
CAL +14 at Washington w
USC -1 vs Stanford w
10-6
10-7 week (lost Boise St)
19-16 overall
Beats me what I had Kid. I'm not going to keep track. I'll make the picks when you slap them up on the board but I'm not going to keep track. If you want to you're welcome to it.
Easy to just note the games we had different
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Looks like I had you 6-4 in games we disagreed.
You had me 5-1 the first week.
So I owe you TWO BILLS - with no vig
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27581991/lsu-locker-room-lacking-c-texas
Sounds like the sort of bush league thing you'd expect from an ex-THE coach.
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Looks like I had you 6-4 in games we disagreed.
You had me 5-1 the first week.
So I owe you TWO BILLS - with no vig
LOL
Early leads seldom last.
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LSU has a QB. Didn't see that coming😀
Guess you missed him at LSU last year.
Jim seems to think that somehow because Burrow was just a backup at osu that it somehow glorifies osu.
Cool. By is thinking then anything that osu this year glorifies Georgia and poor old osu needed a backup from the SEC. LMAO
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Or he thought Burrows played fairly well last year and was a good bet to improve, which I suspect you and I also did.
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Or he thought Burrows played fairly well last year and was a good bet to improve, which I suspect you and I also did.
Which by itself would hold some water. If that was all there was to it.
But Skippy has been hinting around for over a year about this. Maybe you simply don't remember all of the posts he's already made about Burrow being a backup at osu. And posts about how the LSU offense needed the help of an osu backup QB to amount to anything.
Doesn't matter, the evidence is clear. But I'm not going to go back and pull all of them up for you. My memory works just fine and I suspect yours does too.
But I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you just didn't take note of it. This will save you the trouble of avowing said same.
So, my statement remains. According to Skippy, if osu does anything of note this year it will be with the help of the SEC and a Georgia backup QB.
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Well, I also made the point about Burrows being a back up at the THE. Made it Sunday, in fact.
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Well, I also made the point about Burrows being a back up at the THE. Made it Sunday, in fact.
Yes, one isolated comment.
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Or he thought Burrows played fairly well last year and was a good bet to improve, which I suspect you and I also did.
So, my statement remains. According to Skippy, if osu does anything of note this year it will be with the help of the SEC and a Georgia backup QB.
Fields has the harder road to hoe considering the footsteps he has to fill ( Haskins, Barrett, Miller, Jones) Fields will be a failure to the Buckeye hard-core if OSU loses to Michigan, does not make the B1G playoff or the National playoffs.
The bar at LSU is much lower.
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Or he thought Burrows played fairly well last year and was a good bet to improve, which I suspect you and I also did.
So, my statement remains. According to Skippy, if osu does anything of note this year it will be with the help of the SEC and a Georgia backup QB.
Fields has the harder road to hoe considering the footsteps he has to fill ( Haskins, Barrett, Miller, Jones) Fields will be a failure to the Buckeye hard-core if OSU loses to Michigan, does not make the B1G playoff or the National playoffs.
The bar at LSU is much lower.
Well luckily for him he is one of the weaker conferences.
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Well, I also made the point about Burrows being a back up at the THE. Made it Sunday, in fact.
Yes, one isolated comment.
I am morally certain I have made others. The opportunity to dig into the soft underbelly of the God's Conference toadies is not something I am likely to pass up, even as I am aware that not only the Big Flexible Amount's second best program is quarterbacked by a God's Conference reject, so is its leading overrated wannabe flagship program.
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Well, I also made the point about Burrows being a back up at the THE. Made it Sunday, in fact.
Yes, one isolated comment.
I am morally certain I have made others. The opportunity to dig into the soft underbelly of the God's Conference toadies is not something I am likely to pass up, even as I am aware that not only the Big Flexible Amount's second best program is quarterbacked by a God's Conference reject, so is its leading overrated wannabe flagship program.
Morally?
LOL
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27581991/lsu-locker-room-lacking-c-texas
Sounds like the sort of bush league thing you'd expect from an ex-THE coach.
Did Texas make LSU players pile their gear in the parking lot and then go through security before
Letting them into the Un-AC locker room?
Good point D.J.
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Well, I also made the point about Burrows being a back up at the THE. Made it Sunday, in fact.
Yes, one isolated comment.
I am morally certain I have made others. The opportunity to dig into the soft underbelly of the God's Conference toadies is not something I am likely to pass up, even as I am aware that not only the Big Flexible Amount's second best program is quarterbacked by a God's Conference reject, so is its leading overrated wannabe flagship program.
Morally?
LOL
Yes, morally certain. As opposed to mathematical certainty. Do you really not know what that phrase means?
"Moral certainty is a concept of intuitive probability. It means a very high degree of probability, sufficient for action, but short of absolute or mathematical certainty."
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Well, I also made the point about Burrows being a back up at the THE. Made it Sunday, in fact.
Yes, one isolated comment.
I am morally certain I have made others. The opportunity to dig into the soft underbelly of the God's Conference toadies is not something I am likely to pass up, even as I am aware that not only the Big Flexible Amount's second best program is quarterbacked by a God's Conference reject, so is its leading overrated wannabe flagship program.
Morally?
LOL
Yes, morally certain. As opposed to mathematical certainty. Do you really not know what that phrase means?
"Moral certainty is a concept of intuitive probability. It means a very high degree of probability, sufficient for action, but short of absolute or mathematical certainty."
Dude, I know what it means. Ease off the trigger.
I just found it funny you put it that way. If you want to say your posts about the subject mirror Skippy's it's your prerogative.
They don't but you're free to go off on that tangent. Slipping the word morally in while doing it is a bit hypocritic though.
Skippy is the world biggest homer. The Big ten exits and emits from his two largest orifices with copious frequency. He contributes little here past telling us he is an OSU/Big Ten homer.
And though I'm loathe to bring it up as it will undoubtedly set you off as it always seems to, you always come to his rescue. News flash, you ain't Superman, Batman, or the Green Hornet bra. Let Skippy fight his own battles Lancelot.
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Well, I also made the point about Burrows being a back up at the THE. Made it Sunday, in fact.
Yes, one isolated comment.
I am morally certain I have made others. The opportunity to dig into the soft underbelly of the God's Conference toadies is not something I am likely to pass up, even as I am aware that not only the Big Flexible Amount's second best program is quarterbacked by a God's Conference reject, so is its leading overrated wannabe flagship program.
Morally?
LOL
Yes, morally certain. As opposed to mathematical certainty. Do you really not know what that phrase means?
"Moral certainty is a concept of intuitive probability. It means a very high degree of probability, sufficient for action, but short of absolute or mathematical certainty."
Dude, I know what it means. Ease off the trigger.
....Slipping the word morally in while doing it is a bit hypocritic though.
Are you sure you know what the phrase means? Because that second sentence makes it seem pretty clear you do not.
I give not a flying wallenda who you think my posts mirror. My posts and thoughts are my own.
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Well, I also made the point about Burrows being a back up at the THE. Made it Sunday, in fact.
Yes, one isolated comment.
I am morally certain I have made others. The opportunity to dig into the soft underbelly of the God's Conference toadies is not something I am likely to pass up, even as I am aware that not only the Big Flexible Amount's second best program is quarterbacked by a God's Conference reject, so is its leading overrated wannabe flagship program.
Morally?
LOL
Yes, morally certain. As opposed to mathematical certainty. Do you really not know what that phrase means?
"Moral certainty is a concept of intuitive probability. It means a very high degree of probability, sufficient for action, but short of absolute or mathematical certainty."
Dude, I know what it means. Ease off the trigger.
....Slipping the word morally in while doing it is a bit hypocritic though.
Are you sure you know what the phrase means? Because that second sentence makes it seem pretty clear you do not.
I give not a flying wallenda who you think my posts mirror. My posts and thoughts are my own.
Yeah that's it, I must not know what you mean or it means.
Same old deflecting Stevo. You win Skippy is saved.
I'll let it drop Skippy ain't worth it.
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I will note.that while Burrows looked great against Texas the Pure Prairie League is not currently noted for its defensive strength and a hell of a lot of really crappy QBs have gone 31/39, 471, 4/1 or so against PPL defenses.
But let's discuss something really important, like whether Brian Lewerke has already sewn up the Heisman, or if he has more he needs to do.
Which reminds me. I was personally offended that you think jim is the world's biggest homer. Do you not read ANY of my posts?
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Or he thought Burrows played fairly well last year and was a good bet to improve, which I suspect you and I also did.
So, my statement remains. According to Skippy, if osu does anything of note this year it will be with the help of the SEC and a Georgia backup QB.
Fields has the harder road to hoe considering the footsteps he has to fill ( Haskins, Barrett, Miller, Jones) Fields will be a failure to the Buckeye hard-core if OSU loses to Michigan, does not make the B1G playoff or the National playoffs.
The bar at LSU is much lower.
Well luckily for him he is one of the weaker conferences.
😂😂😂😂
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Eventual 2019-2020 National Champion Michigan State 27, Arizona State 10
ASU has struggled to score against lower level competition, although their defense has been stellar – again, Kent and Sac States. I think our offense turned the corner, with Eventual 2019 Heisman Trophy Winner Brian Lewerke looking crisp and confident in the passing game, and Eventual 2020 Heisman Trophy Winner Elijah Collins making an impressive bid for bell cow status. We gave up more passing yards than I would like, and not all of it in garbage time. I trust we can handle the true freshman and get our revenge for last year.
the Pennsylvania State University 35, Pittsburgh 7
the PSU struggled against Buffalo in the first half offensively, but I am not worried about their ability to score against the Fightin’ Narduzzis. Pitt had trouble with their offense against a good Virginia team, and could barely score against the non-the version of Ohio college football. I know it is a rivalry, and it is not out of memory that a victory by Pitt in the early season derailed PSU’s bid for the CFB playoffs. I just don’t see it.
Maryland 42, Temple 14
Jesus, yankguy. Do I really have to take the Terps seriously? Because if their ass whuppin of the Cuse is reality, the Big Whatever’s East really is CFB’s toughest division, top to very close to the bottom.
THE (not tm) 42, Indiana 13
THE has not seemed to miss an offensive beat in its two offensive beat downs, although the defense seems prone to inexplicable lapses. I do not think that changes, at least not this week. Fields looks like a good fit for the THE offense, and between Master Teague and Tuf Borland THE has a strong two headed entry in the “Best First Names in CFB” sweepstakes.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 31, New Mexico 3
Not really an interesting game, but it is cross sectional. And gives me the opportunity to call the school that must not be named “Out Lady of the Perpetual Tie.” Thanks, banks.
University of California* 27, Brigham Young 24
Nice test for the second game for the Scottsdale Flash. BYU is decent, not great on defense. They played their role in moving Jeremy Pruitt over Helton in the “Most Fired” poll. He keeps the lead for another week, at least.
*Southern
Alabama 45, South Carolina 3
Yeah, should be easy. I think somewhere along the line Alabama will have issues with a team we do not expect it of, but not the Cawks with their true freshman QB.
Iowa 23, Iowa State 17
ISU was a sexy pick to win the Pure Prairie League until the squeaked an OT win over Northern Iowa. I am really not sure if we have enough to go on for them. Iowa has been OK at best against the Ohio version of Miami and Rutgers. Got no real sense of this game.
Kentucky 21, Florida 17
Not that KY has Jelled against the two MAC foes they have played, but I did not like what I saw ofr Florida against what looks to be a poor Florida version of Miami team. Never bet against a Stoops in a big game.
ClemSIN 45, Syracuse 10
Maybe losing to Maryland is not that bad this year, but by 43 fucking points? This was supposed to by ClemSIN’s big regular season test. Now, losing any game for the rest of their schedule – which does not include Indiana – looks well nigh impossible. I am morally certain they go into the post season unbeaten.
Virginia 28, Florida State 10
Sweet Mother of Holy Jesus what in the wide wide world of sports happened to Florida State? I haven’t seen anyone go so completely off the cliff so completely and so suddenly since they used to show cliff diving from Acapulco.
Oklahoma 49, University of California* 3
Chip Kelly, genius. Interesting to see who transfers in for one year of Sooner QB glory next year.
*Los Angeles
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Friday 9/13 top 25
Washington State -9 @ Houston
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University of California* 27, Brigham Young 24
Nice test for the second game for the Scottsdale Flash. BYU is decent
I feel like this is a pretty good pick.
Stanford went up early and I think most of us were surprised by how well the team responded. We have not seen that for awhile. So, the question becomes if USC falls behind early ...on the road...will they still keep their cool and be able to come back?
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Here you go, Whiskey. No need to thank me. Keith Jackson was the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQicippGDJQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQicippGDJQ)
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Here you go, Whiskey. No need to thank me. Keith Jackson was the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQicippGDJQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQicippGDJQ)
You are dead to me.
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Friday 9/13 top 24
Washington State -9 @ Houston
I'll take State and give up the points Kid.
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Michigan State 27, Arizona State 17
This stacks up as a battle of two good defenses. The Sparties have the better one IMO. And I'm starting to like the MSU offensive line too. There's always HFA to factor in. But I'll take the Sparties.
Penn State 35, Pittsburgh 20
PSU is an okay team so far that IMO isn't there yet. They have the pieces but aren't instant pudding and still need time to cook.
Maryland 42, Temple 14
Jesus, yankguy. Do I really have to take the Terps seriously? Well. it's starting to look that way.
THE 42, Indiana 10
IMO this might be the best OSU defense I've seen in about 20 years. And it could turn out they are better than even that.
ND 31, New Mexico 13
Notre Dame, the 1966 AP/UPI National Champions, should win this one handily. I felt that I should tie that into the prediction in some fashion.
USC 27, Brigham Young 23
I proclaimed the New Trojan Hector last week and I don't see Achilles enrolled at BYU. So,,,
Alabama 45, South Carolina 13
Bama's offense will eventually be better than last year. Their defense? I haven't decided yet. This week will go a long way to making up my mind.
Iowa 23, Iowa State 17
Rivalry game that isn't set in rivalry week. I like Iowa's defense to come through in the end.
Kentucky 21, Florida 24
Most everyone is taking Kentucky. But I'll put my money on Florida.
Clemson 62, Syracuse 17
I've got a feeling this game is going to get ugly. And maybe even out of hand.
Virginia 26, Florida State 27
Just as I was going to jump off of the Nole bandwagon in comes one of my favorite defensive gurus. He might not be able to save them this week. But I promise you that defense is going to get a whole lot better before the season is finished.
Oklahoma 49, UCLA
Chip Smelly may not survive the season as Skipper of the SS Minnow.
Wash St 34, Houston 30
This game might be an upset but I'll take the Cougars. The West Coast version.
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Top 25 Saturday 9/14
Georgia -33 vs Arkansas State
Indiana +14 vs Ohio State
Penn State -17 vs Pitt
Temple +6.5 at Maryland
New Mexico +37 at Notre Dame
Alabama -25.5 vs South Carolina
Central Florida -8.5 vs Stanford
BYU +4.5 vs USC
Michigan State -11 vs Arizona State
Iowa State -1 vs Iowa
Utah -35.5 vs Idaho State
Auburn -35 vs Kent State
Florida -8.5 at Kentucky
Lamar +43 at Texas A and M
Syracuse +27 vs Clemson
LSU -56 vs Northwestern State
Washington -21 vs Hawaii
Florida State +7.5 vs Virginia
Oklahoma -20 at UCLA
Texas -30.5 vs Rice
Portland +31.5 at Boise State
Oregon -28 vs Montana
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I proclaimed the New Trojan Hector last week and I don't see Achilles enrolled at BYU.
I have tendontively identified a couple of players who might fit that bill.
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Do tell.
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Do tell.
Achilles. TENDONtively....
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Top 25 Saturday 9/14
Georgia -33 vs Arkansas State
Indiana +14 vs Ohio State
Penn State -17 vs Pitt
Temple +6.5 at Maryland
New Mexico +37 at Notre Dame
Alabama -25.5 vs South Carolina
Central Florida -8.5 vs Stanford
BYU +4.5 vs USC
Michigan State -11 vs Arizona State
Iowa State -1 vs Iowa
Utah -35.5 vs Idaho State
Auburn -35 vs Kent State
Florida -8.5 at Kentucky
Lamar +43 at Texas A and M
Syracuse +27 vs Clemson
LSU -56 vs Northwestern State
Washington -21 vs Hawaii
Florida State +7.5 vs Virginia
Oklahoma -20 at UCLA
Texas -30.5 vs Rice
Portland +31.5 at Boise State
Oregon -28 vs Montana
Georgia, OSU, Pitt, Maryland, ND, Bama, UCF, USC, Zona St, Iowa, Utah, Auburn, Kentucky, Texas A&M, Clemson, LSU, Washington, Fla St, Oklahoma, Texas, Boise St, Oregon.
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Do tell.
Achilles. TENDONtively....
Funny. Missed that one.
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If I had seen it I might have thought it was your dreaded autocorrect acting up again.
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Wash St 34, Houston 30
This game might be an upset but I'll take the Cougars.
I will also take the Cougars in this game!
this actually should be a fun game to watch I think
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Terps turn the red zone into the dreaded zone.
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UCF absolutely embarrassing Stanford so far.
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Helton with the worst timing ever.
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But he gets lucky and his guys stop BYU again.
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Have I mentioned lately that I hate the chickenshit targeting rule?
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Well,see. In a league called the Big ten that has 14 teams sooner or later not being able to count can be a problem.
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Uh... PSU, THE and Wisky unbeaten.
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PAC, on the other hand, has a lot riding on Utah at.this point.
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Offensive pass interference is seldom called. Should've been called there.
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Uh... PSU, THE and Wisky unbeaten.
We suck though.
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I don’t have time to scroll back but I will try to see how douchy this place is...
**news alert**
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead...
I can barely remember my character other tha he likes CLEM, hates tOSU, and has flights of fancy avoid mopeds and periods of dipsomania...
In truth, I bought a12-pack of Keystone Ice because it was on sale at Dollar General in July for $5.79 or something ricdonk, most are still in my garage fridge, and today it hit me, you’ve never had a Keystone Ice, and it hit me like a ton of bricks that It’s exactly what my *character* would have done...
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Top 25 Saturday 9/14
Georgia -33 vs Arkansas State
Indiana +14 vs Ohio State
Penn State -17 vs Pitt
Temple +6.5 at Maryland
New Mexico +37 at Notre Dame
Alabama -25.5 vs South Carolina
Central Florida -8.5 vs Stanford
BYU +4.5 vs USC
Michigan State -11 vs Arizona State
Iowa State -1 vs Iowa
Utah -35.5 vs Idaho State
Auburn -35 vs Kent State
Florida -8.5 at Kentucky
Lamar +43 at Texas A and M
Syracuse +27 vs Clemson
LSU -56 vs Northwestern State
Washington -21 vs Hawaii
Florida State +7.5 vs Virginia
Oklahoma -20 at UCLA
Texas -30.5 vs Rice
Portland +31.5 at Boise State
Oregon -28 vs Montana
Georgia, OSU, Pitt, Maryland, ND, Bama, UCF, USC, Zona St, Iowa, Utah, Auburn, Kentucky, Texas A&M, Clemson, LSU, Washington, Fla St, Oklahoma, Texas, Boise St, Oregon.
Well Kid, how'd we do this week?
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Hey jb glad you're alive and wel, in or out of character
you cracked me up
and speaking of which, I was a little concerned that a 12-pack and a slick SC backroad...
I figured you had some pre-season bragging rights due you, but you never collected
and this place is way douchy, iwe're like an inbred Appalachian family, 3 or 4 generations down the line.
in any case, enjoy the Keystone
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I don’t have time to scroll back but I will try to see how douchy this place is...
Same to you.
Nice to see you're still breathing by the way.
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Hey jb glad you're alive and wel, in or out of character
you cracked me up
and speaking of which, I was a little concerned that a 12-pack and a slick SC backroad...
I figured you had some pre-season bragging rights due you, but you never collected
and this place is way douchy, iwe're like an inbred Appalachian family, 3 or 4 generations down the line.
in any case, enjoy the Keystone
You take that back RichBob or I'll tell PappyUncle.
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Hey jb glad you're alive and wel, in or out of character
you cracked me up
and speaking of which, I was a little concerned that a 12-pack and a slick SC backroad...
I figured you had some pre-season bragging rights due you, but you never collected
and this place is way douchy, iwe're like an inbred Appalachian family, 3 or 4 generations down the line.
in any case, enjoy the Keystone
You take that back RichBob or I'll tell PappyUncle.
heh
wait til afternoon he's sleeping off the sampling of the 199 proof Tigers Paws he bottled last night
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Alabama weakness: Field Goal accuracy 98 misses since 2007, worst in the FBS (CBS)
The Kansas win at Boston College was its first against a power five team since 2008
Coupled with the Kansas State win over Mississippi State it marked the first time those two schools beat
power five teams on the same weekend since 1975
Maryland was 13 of 14 in red zone scoring the first two weeks of the season
It could only manage TWO of 6 against Temple including four failures at first and goal.
Herm Edwards is 5-1 at Arizona State in games decided by 3 points or less
Eastern Michigan now has more wins against B1G teams since 2017 (3) than Illinois (2) and is tied with
Rutgers(3)
Minnesota is 3-0 and in each game rallied from behind with less than six minutes to go
The PAC12 is 5-6 against the Mountain West and the AAC
Notre Dame went 1-10 on third down but 5-5 on fourth down in routing New Mexico 66-14
The ACC had a miserable weekend. Inexplicable losses by Boston College(Kansas-at home)Georgia Tech( also at home to the Citadel who completed just ONE pass). Pitt beat Penn State in statistics but not on the scoreboard,West Virginia pummeled NC State, Virginia Tech struggled with Furman, and in a conference game North Carolina lost to Wake Forest.
Clemson, as the dominant team in the league, better hope the Playoff Committee holds onto its SOS blinders.
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Offensive pass interference is seldom called. Should've been called there.
Are you talking about at the end of the USC BYU Game? I'll have to rewatch it. All I saw was the defender reach out with his hand to trip the legs of the receiver on his way down. That used to be called pass interference on the defense. The contact before that looked incidental...but admittedly I might have had my Cardinal glasses on in the heat of battle.
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In a league called the Big ten that has 14 teams sooner or later not being able to count can be a problem.
This is, no doubt, the new math that I've heard so much about.
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I can barely remember my character other than he likes CLEM, hates tOSU, and has flights of fancy avoid mopeds and periods of dipsomania...
I needed that laugh. Good to have you back!
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RE:
If I have not commented earlier, keep up with the sports/political cartoons. You have some talent there!
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Is whisk still around or in hiding b/c Sparty debacle?
The ACC is no great shakes but all CLEM has to do is handle our business in conference,a greater concern is how do we prepare for the battle tested teams we would likely face in the playoff, or against the Cocks who were about 5 huge mistakes from being in a dogfight with ALA??
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Is whisk still around or in hiding b/c Sparty debacle?
After a breath or two it would be relatively easy for you to recognize the style of a new poster called Hairy Lime ...or some such nonsense...
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Saban needs his AD to take him down a peg or two.
I have a feeling Oklahoma, Clemson, Georgia (maybe even LSU) are going to take care of that this year.
Can you imagine Jalen hurts meeting Alabama in the playoffs? Instant Classic
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Speaking of AD's, what 's your grapevine telling you about the USC spot?
Not much. I only know a couple of things.
Most everyone speculated that Swann was asked to "resign," probably at least under the pretense of the admissions scandal...but just as likely for some undisclosed political reason. The incoming President, Carol Folt, took away all speculation by announcing that she already had a search committee picked out the next day and some oddly worded message about Lynn realizing he was not part of the team going forward. I thought that was bad form.
My guess is she already has an AD picked out and someone she knows or has worked with in the past. If that turns out to be the case after a supposed "national search," I'm going to really start watching her closely.
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Drank a lot of Schafer Light as a kid, now I’m strictly a natural light guy and by “strictly” I mean I will drink any beer put in front of me.
Is there really a Hairy Lime? B/C that’s from his favorite movie or another Graham Greene reference or both.
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Is whisk still around or in hiding b/c Sparty debacle?
The ACC is no great shakes but all CLEM has to do is handle our business in conference,a greater concern is how do we prepare for the battle tested teams we would likely face in the playoff, or against the Cocks who were about 5 huge mistakes from being in a dogfight with ALA??
I am always around. If we can go unbeaten in the Big Whatever and we are still playoff bound! I did not get to see much of yesterday's games.
On the bright side, we put up 400 yards of total offense against a real good defense. on the other hand, how do you get 400 yards of offense, only one turnover, and only 7 points?
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In a league called the Big ten that has 14 teams sooner or later not being able to count can be a problem.
This is, no doubt, the new math that I've heard so much about.
I note people on this forum have no issues with the number of teams in the Big XII or the concept of Syracuse and Pittsburgh being on the Atlantic Coast.
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For that matter,.Tempe and Tucson have been on the Pacific coast since 1978.
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I wasn’t kidding that my inadvertent (I am cheap like that) purchase of Keystone Ice because it was $5 at dollar general (who doesn’t need a rat holed 12-pack in the garage fridge in the event of desperate circumstance) eventually made me go wait I don’t buy Keystone Ice, only my *elba guy* would do that, and then I’m like wait, and it’s football season again, I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not, but true story.
I had a couple and they weren’t good but I may review the beer on here for your presumptive interest, maybe in *character* but the muse is as rusty as the moped...
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Alabama weakness: Field Goal accuracy 98 misses since 2007, worst in the FBS (CBS)
Well, if you're Michigan State and can only score 10 points FGs will be very important. Oh wait, if they could score 10 points...
But seriously, I'm not sure how many times Bama is going to need to rely on a FG to win the game this year. But I suppose you have a small point.
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Saban needs his AD to take him down a peg or two.
I have a feeling Oklahoma, Clemson, Georgia (maybe even LSU) are going to take care of that this year.
Can you imagine Jalen hurts meeting Alabama in the playoffs? Instant Classic
Nicky has some competition this year for sure Scotty. That said, IMO, he's still the dude to beat.
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I wasn’t kidding that my inadvertent (I am cheap like that) purchase of Keystone Ice because it was $5 at dollar general (who doesn’t need a rat holed 12-pack in the garage fridge in the event of desperate circumstance) eventually made me go wait I don’t buy Keystone Ice, only my *elba guy* would do that, and then I’m like wait, and it’s football season again, I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not, but true story.
I had a couple and they weren’t good but I may review the beer on here for your presumptive interest, maybe in *character* but the muse is as rusty as the moped...
Back in the 60's there was a campus bar in Cincinnati that would sell Draft Hudepohl in juice glasses for 10 cents! In the Army at the PX I could buy an eight pack of Old Milwaukee Tall Boys (16 ozs) for 95 cents. That all came back to memory with your $5 Keystone and that $9 they wanted yesterday for my draft Guinness.
My motto has been: I am too poor to buy cheap!
Try Little Kings Cream Ale or Rolling Rock Beer for your review. ✌️👌
Back in the late 60's and early 70's I could just swipe a six-pack or two out of my dad's garage fridge for free.
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I wasn’t kidding that my inadvertent (I am cheap like that) purchase of Keystone Ice because it was $5 at dollar general (who doesn’t need a rat holed 12-pack in the garage fridge in the event of desperate circumstance) eventually made me go wait I don’t buy Keystone Ice, only my *elba guy* would do that, and then I’m like wait, and it’s football season again, I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not, but true story.
I had a couple and they weren’t good but I may review the beer on here for your presumptive interest, maybe in *character* but the muse is as rusty as the moped...
Back in the 60's there was a campus bar in Cincinnati that would sell Draft Hudepohl in juice glasses for 10 cents! In the Army at the PX I could buy an eight pack of Old Milwaukee Tall Boys (16 ozs) for 95 cents. That all came back to memory with your $5 Keystone and that $9 they wanted yesterday for my draft Guinness.
My motto has been: I am too poor to buy cheap!
Try Little Kings Cream Ale or Rolling Rock Beer for your review. ✌️👌
Back in the late 60's and early 70's I could just swipe a six-pack or two out of my dad's garage fridge for free.
Iron City, Cap?
Has to be PBR.
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I wasn’t kidding that my inadvertent (I am cheap like that) purchase of Keystone Ice because it was $5 at dollar general (who doesn’t need a rat holed 12-pack in the garage fridge in the event of desperate circumstance) eventually made me go wait I don’t buy Keystone Ice, only my *elba guy* would do that, and then I’m like wait, and it’s football season again, I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not, but true story.
I had a couple and they weren’t good but I may review the beer on here for your presumptive interest, maybe in *character* but the muse is as rusty as the moped...
Back in the 60's there was a campus bar in Cincinnati that would sell Draft Hudepohl in juice glasses for 10 cents! In the Army at the PX I could buy an eight pack of Old Milwaukee Tall Boys (16 ozs) for 95 cents. That all came back to memory with your $5 Keystone and that $9 they wanted yesterday for my draft Guinness.
My motto has been: I am too poor to buy cheap!
Try Little Kings Cream Ale or Rolling Rock Beer for your review. ✌️👌
Back in the late 60's and early 70's I could just swipe a six-pack or two out of my dad's garage fridge for free.
Iron City, Cap?
Has to be PBR.
I'm going with Genny Cream, the pride of Rochester.
My old man was partial to Schlitz.
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https://pac-12.com/article/2019/09/15/pac-12-confirms-officiating-error-arizona-state-michigan-state-game
Oh my God! The refs actually DID screw us!
Again, 400 yards of offense, 7 points. A converted 4th and 12 in ASU's final drive. A huge coaching error on the first field goal try. We should never have let it get in a position where a referee decision could make a difference. The loss is on us.
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I wasn’t kidding that my inadvertent (I am cheap like that) purchase of Keystone Ice because it was $5 at dollar general (who doesn’t need a rat holed 12-pack in the garage fridge in the event of desperate circumstance) eventually made me go wait I don’t buy Keystone Ice, only my *elba guy* would do that, and then I’m like wait, and it’s football season again, I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not, but true story.
I had a couple and they weren’t good but I may review the beer on here for your presumptive interest, maybe in *character* but the muse is as rusty as the moped...
Back in the 60's there was a campus bar in Cincinnati that would sell Draft Hudepohl in juice glasses for 10 cents! In the Army at the PX I could buy an eight pack of Old Milwaukee Tall Boys (16 ozs) for 95 cents. That all came back to memory with your $5 Keystone and that $9 they wanted yesterday for my draft Guinness.
My motto has been: I am too poor to buy cheap!
Try Little Kings Cream Ale or Rolling Rock Beer for your review. ✌️👌
Back in the late 60's and early 70's I could just swipe a six-pack or two out of my dad's garage fridge for free.
Iron City, Cap?
Has to be PBR.
I'm going with Genny Cream, the pride of Rochester.
My old man was partial to Schlitz.
Mabel, Black Label, calling ..... and Four Roses Whiskey
I dont want your damn roses.
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Making my Big House debut next weekend, Whiskey.
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I wasn’t kidding that my inadvertent (I am cheap like that) purchase of Keystone Ice because it was $5 at dollar general (who doesn’t need a rat holed 12-pack in the garage fridge in the event of desperate circumstance) eventually made me go wait I don’t buy Keystone Ice, only my *elba guy* would do that, and then I’m like wait, and it’s football season again, I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not, but true story.
I had a couple and they weren’t good but I may review the beer on here for your presumptive interest, maybe in *character* but the muse is as rusty as the moped...
Back in the 60's there was a campus bar in Cincinnati that would sell Draft Hudepohl in juice glasses for 10 cents! In the Army at the PX I could buy an eight pack of Old Milwaukee Tall Boys (16 ozs) for 95 cents. That all came back to memory with your $5 Keystone and that $9 they wanted yesterday for my draft Guinness.
My motto has been: I am too poor to buy cheap!
Try Little Kings Cream Ale or Rolling Rock Beer for your review. ✌️👌
Back in the late 60's and early 70's I could just swipe a six-pack or two out of my dad's garage fridge for free.
Iron City, Cap?
Stevo wins. Dad was a Pabst drinker.
You don't find too many beers that taste like that any more.
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I wasn’t kidding that my inadvertent (I am cheap like that) purchase of Keystone Ice because it was $5 at dollar general (who doesn’t need a rat holed 12-pack in the garage fridge in the event of desperate circumstance) eventually made me go wait I don’t buy Keystone Ice, only my *elba guy* would do that, and then I’m like wait, and it’s football season again, I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not, but true story.
I had a couple and they weren’t good but I may review the beer on here for your presumptive interest, maybe in *character* but the muse is as rusty as the moped...
Back in the 60's there was a campus bar in Cincinnati that would sell Draft Hudepohl in juice glasses for 10 cents! In the Army at the PX I could buy an eight pack of Old Milwaukee Tall Boys (16 ozs) for 95 cents. That all came back to memory with your $5 Keystone and that $9 they wanted yesterday for my draft Guinness.
My motto has been: I am too poor to buy cheap!
Try Little Kings Cream Ale or Rolling Rock Beer for your review. ✌️👌
Back in the late 60's and early 70's I could just swipe a six-pack or two out of my dad's garage fridge for free.
Iron City, Cap?
Has to be PBR.
I'm going with Genny Cream, the pride of Rochester.
My old man was partial to Schlitz.
Of my three brothers one liked Genny Cream, one was a Schlitz guy, and the last was a Bud man.
I actually liked the Pabst.
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Making my Big House debut next weekend, Whiskey.
So how much time did you get sent up for.
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I wasn’t kidding that my inadvertent (I am cheap like that) purchase of Keystone Ice because it was $5 at dollar general (who doesn’t need a rat holed 12-pack in the garage fridge in the event of desperate circumstance) eventually made me go wait I don’t buy Keystone Ice, only my *elba guy* would do that, and then I’m like wait, and it’s football season again, I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not, but true story.
I had a couple and they weren’t good but I may review the beer on here for your presumptive interest, maybe in *character* but the muse is as rusty as the moped...
Back in the 60's there was a campus bar in Cincinnati that would sell Draft Hudepohl in juice glasses for 10 cents! In the Army at the PX I could buy an eight pack of Old Milwaukee Tall Boys (16 ozs) for 95 cents. That all came back to memory with your $5 Keystone and that $9 they wanted yesterday for my draft Guinness.
My motto has been: I am too poor to buy cheap!
Try Little Kings Cream Ale or Rolling Rock Beer for your review. ✌️👌
Back in the late 60's and early 70's I could just swipe a six-pack or two out of my dad's garage fridge for free.
Iron City, Cap?
Stevo wins. Dad was a Pabst drinker.
You don't find too many beers that taste like that any more.
There is more than one way to take that....
After my sister and I moved out (not together you sick bastards) my dad elevated his beer game. Always wondered.why he waited.
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Making my Big House debut next weekend, Whiskey.
I was going to make some comment about you watching a humiliating Meatchicken loss. But then I saw who they were playing.
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Making my Big House debut next weekend, Whiskey.
So how much time did you get sent up for.
(https://previews.123rf.com/images/whitestar1955/whitestar19551501/whitestar1955150100010/35696482-golf-ball-on-red-golf-tee-with-shadow.jpg)
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Making my Big House debut next weekend, Whiskey.
I was going to make some comment about you watching a humiliating Meatchicken loss. But then I saw who they were playing.
Planned it that way. The Parents Weekend game the following weekend is against Iowa which might be a little more problematic.
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Rutgers is clearly one of four reasons why there are 14 teams, but only 10 Big Ones.
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Illinois. The Terps gacked Saturday, but they stomped.the Cuse like the were Godzilla and the Cuse was Tokyo.
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So my buddy in high school scored a job in the pro shop, hot dog/ beer “19th hole,” and they didn’t take inventory, he godbthe job b/c his dad was a corporate motherfucker agh paper company in town that propped up the course, anyway, the Michelin Light he stole was like an epiphany or whatever. His buddy had a van and was a fan of “Malt Duck,” if you recall.
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I think Maryland could well run the table, with losses.
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I think Maryland could well run the table, with losses.
Rutgers.
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Top 25 Saturday 9/14
Georgia -33 vs Arkansas State W
Indiana +14 vs Ohio State L
Penn State -17 vs Pitt L
Temple +6.5 at Maryland W
New Mexico +37 at Notre Dame L
Alabama -25.5 vs South Carolina L
Central Florida -8.5 vs Stanford W
BYU +4.5 vs USC W
Michigan State -11 vs Arizona State L
Iowa State -1 vs Iowa L
Utah -35.5 vs Idaho State L
Auburn -35 vs Kent State W
Florida -8.5 at Kentucky L
Lamar +43 at Texas A and M L
Syracuse +27 vs Clemson L
LSU -56 vs Northwestern State L
Washington -21 vs Hawaii W
Florida State +7.5 vs Virginia W
Oklahoma -20 at UCLA W
Texas -30.5 vs Rice W
Portland +31.5 at Boise State L
Oregon -28 vs Montana W
10-12
10-13 week
29-29 season
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I think Maryland could well run the table, with losses.
Rutgers.
At Rutgers. Flip a coin.
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I think Maryland could well run the table, with losses.
I'm not sure we're going to beat them.
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I find it interesting that UCF only advanced two slots in the AP after absolutely shellacking Stanford. Had that been any name brand Power Five team I think we would see a four position move. I mean can anyone say with straight face that if it was Iowa that pasted Stanford like that Iowa would not be smelling the Top 10 right now.
IMO they sure as heck would be ranked above Texas right now. Texas who is currently ranked 12th. And above a somewhat lackluster Michigan who is 11th.
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I think Maryland could well run the table, with losses.
I'm not sure we're going to beat them.
Who's "we"? Penn State? I see "you" winning by four touchdowns.
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I find it interesting that UCF only advanced two slots in the AP after absolutely shellacking Stanford. Had that been any name brand Power Five team I think we would see a four position move. I mean can anyone say with straight face that if it was Iowa that pasted Stanford like that Iowa would not be smelling the Top 10 right now.
IMO they sure as heck would be ranked above Texas right now. Texas who is currently ranked 12th. And above a somewhat lackluster Michigan who is 11th.
Capitan, The American Athletic Conference doesn't have a network of their own do they?
The main purpose of these rankings is to promote the next week's games to keep the sponsors happy! The Texas Nerwork needs the money, so they get ranked higher than they deserve.
Nothing new there. No rankings until Week 9, I say, the only ranking that matters is the Top four.
Everything else is just musical chairs for the bowl cartel.
Eight weeks from now UCF's win over 6-4 Stanford will look very pedestrian, No?
No.
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I think Maryland could well run the table, with losses.
I'm not sure we're going to beat them.
Who's "we"? Penn State? I see "you" winning by four touchdowns.
I hope you're right Zoltar. :-)
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I find it interesting that UCF only advanced two slots in the AP after absolutely shellacking Stanford. Had that been any name brand Power Five team I think we would see a four position move. I mean can anyone say with straight face that if it was Iowa that pasted Stanford like that Iowa would not be smelling the Top 10 right now.
IMO they sure as heck would be ranked above Texas right now. Texas who is currently ranked 12th. And above a somewhat lackluster Michigan who is 11th.
Eight weeks from now UCF's win over 6-4 Stanford will look very pedestrian, No?
You could be very right about that DJ. 1-2 and struggled against powerhouse Northwestern.
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Sep 27, 2019 @ team logoMaryland
8:00 pm
FS1 Maryland Stadium Tickets Starting at $74.16. L
Oct 5, 2019 vs team logoPurdue
12:00 pm
— Beaver Stadium Tickets Starting at $74.00. W
Oct 12, 2019 @ team logoIowa
TBA
— Kinnick Stadium
Tickets Starting at $124.20. L
Oct 19, 2019 vs team logoMichigan
TBA
— Beaver Stadium
Tickets Starting at $219.00. L. $219? Highway robbery!!!
Oct 26, 2019 @ team logoMichigan St.
TBA
— Spartan Stadium
Tickets Starting at $19.99 W. 19.99? Does that include parking?
Nov 9, 2019 @ team logoMinnesota
TBA
— TCF Bank Stadium W
Tickets Starting at $69.29
Nov 16, 2019 vs team logoIndiana
TBA
— Beaver Stadium
Tickets Starting at $30.00. W. $30, that's more like it!
Nov 23, 2019 @ team logoOhio St.
TBA
— Ohio Stadium
Tickets Starting at $156.00. L
Nov 30, 2019 vs team logoRutgers W. ( Free Tickets for all seniors!!)
TBA
I have a friend down there that teaches DJ.(She's considered one of the meanest teachers on campus. Mostly because she makes her students learn the material and actually have to prove it. None of this 'online' BS.) They used to have season seats, nice ones too. The Colonel, her father, was nicely connected back in the day. But you're right, that's a lot of bucks for college football tickets, for the average Joe to shell out.
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Oct 26, 2019 @ team logoMichigan St.
TBA
— Spartan Stadium
Tickets Starting at $19.99 W. 19.99? Does that include parking?
We may be cheap but we're not easy.
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My view is that on a yearly basis Stanford is among the more overrated teams in the country. But they kick ass academically.
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Top 25 Saturday 9/14
Georgia -33 vs Arkansas State W
Indiana +14 vs Ohio State L
Penn State -17 vs Pitt L
Temple +6.5 at Maryland W
New Mexico +37 at Notre Dame L
Alabama -25.5 vs South Carolina L
Central Florida -8.5 vs Stanford W
BYU +4.5 vs USC W
Michigan State -11 vs Arizona State L
Iowa State -1 vs Iowa L
Utah -35.5 vs Idaho State L
Auburn -35 vs Kent State W
Florida -8.5 at Kentucky L
Lamar +43 at Texas A and M L
Syracuse +27 vs Clemson L
LSU -56 vs Northwestern State L
Washington -21 vs Hawaii W
Florida State +7.5 vs Virginia W
Oklahoma -20 at UCLA W
Texas -30.5 vs Rice W
Portland +31.5 at Boise State L
Oregon -28 vs Montana W
10-12
10-13 week
29-29 season
Well I see you didn't add mine up Kid ma brutha.
But in case you wanted to know 16-5.
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Well I see you didn't add mine up Kid ma brutha.
But in case you wanted to know 16-5.
That's fine work, sir.
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Oct 26, 2019 @ team logoMichigan St.
TBA
— Spartan Stadium
Tickets Starting at $19.99 W. 19.99? Does that include parking?
We may be cheap but we're not easy.
I assume there are only two seats with obstructed views for that price?
Or those seats are actually in the parking lot, like a drive-in theatre where you can watch the game
On a big screen with other tailgaters.
No obstructed seats. It is not the fucking Horseshoe.
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Sep 27, 2019 @ team logoMaryland
8:00 pm
FS1 Maryland Stadium Tickets Starting at $74.16. L
Oct 5, 2019 vs team logoPurdue
12:00 pm
— Beaver Stadium Tickets Starting at $74.00. W
Oct 12, 2019 @ team logoIowa
TBA
— Kinnick Stadium
Tickets Starting at $124.20. L
Oct 19, 2019 vs team logoMichigan
TBA
— Beaver Stadium
Tickets Starting at $219.00. L. $219? Highway robbery!!!
Oct 26, 2019 @ team logoMichigan St.
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— Spartan Stadium
Tickets Starting at $19.99 W. 19.99? Does that include parking?
Nov 9, 2019 @ team logoMinnesota
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— TCF Bank Stadium W
Tickets Starting at $69.29
Nov 16, 2019 vs team logoIndiana
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— Beaver Stadium
Tickets Starting at $30.00. W. $30, that's more like it!
Nov 23, 2019 @ team logoOhio St.
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— Ohio Stadium
Tickets Starting at $156.00. L
Nov 30, 2019 vs team logoRutgers W. ( Free Tickets for all seniors!!)
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I have a friend down there that teaches DJ.(She's considered one of the meanest teachers on campus. Mostly because she makes her students learn the material and actually have to prove it. None of this 'online' BS.) They used to have season seats, nice ones too. The Colonel, her father, was nicely connected back in the day. But you're right, that's a lot of bucks for college football tickets, for the average Joe to shell out.
What does she teach?
Actually I think she has more than one iron in the fire as to classes being taught by her. She's taught mostly accounting and logistics in the various Universities she's taught in, stuff like financial and managerial accounting as well as things like technology forecasting in regard to accounting and/or analysis of said same, and blah blah blah.
The Professor is a whole couple levels of smart above me. That much I know firsthand. But she's always tolerated my ignorance. I was best man at her wedding. ;-)
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Oct 26, 2019 @ team logoMichigan St.
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— Spartan Stadium
Tickets Starting at $19.99 W. 19.99? Does that include parking?
We may be cheap but we're not easy.
I assume there are only two seats with obstructed views for that price?
Or those seats are actually in the parking lot, like a drive-in theatre where you can watch the game
On a big screen with other tailgaters.
No obstructed seats. It is not the fucking Horseshoe.
LOL
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Well I see you didn't add mine up Kid ma brutha.
But in case you wanted to know 16-5.
That's fine work, sir.
As you know, against the spread some weeks are good and some bad. I had a good week.
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The Professor is a whole couple levels of smart above me.
You should not make it so easy and so tempting. I almost bit my tongue in half, metaphorically.
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The Professor is a whole couple levels of smart above me.
You should not make it so easy and so tempting. I almost bit my tongue in half, metaphorically.
When it gets to non-metaphoric, in a cyber-sense, I will have accomplished my mission.
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I see cap's alter ego continues to play Budokon to cap's Cheap Trick.
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And Cap, you are the best man on Elba!
Congrats Deej
I'm sure cap will make a great best man.
Good luck in finding a flower girl, but forget about maid of honor.
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If the PSU tickets are highway robbery(and it is)what would you call this?
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27632885/notre-dame-uga-ticket-prices-soar-ahead-sat
(https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27632885/notre-dame-uga-ticket-prices-soar-ahead-sat)
Notre Dame-UGA ticket prices soar ahead of Sat
Tickets for Saturday night's game between No. 3 Georgia and No. 7 Notre Dame at Sanford Stadium in Athens, Georgia, are the most expensive this season and among the five toughest tickets to acquire in college football over the last five years, according to independent broker Vivid Seats.
The average ticket price sold on Vivid through Sunday was $611. For comparison, the average price of tickets sold for Saturday's game between No. 11 Michigan and No. 13 Wisconsin at Camp Randall Stadium in Madison, Wisconsin, is $184.
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Well I see you didn't add mine up Kid ma brutha.
But in case you wanted to know 16-5.
That's fine work, sir.
Actually I see I must have missed a game as you have 22 games listed. So it's either 17-5 or 16-6. But why quibble.
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And Cap, you are the best man on Elba!
Congrats Deej
I'm sure cap will make a great best man.
Good luck in finding a flower girl, but forget about maid of honor.
I'm available for Seudat mitzvahs too. Guaranteed to be totally Kosher.
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Well I see you didn't add mine up Kid ma brutha.
But in case you wanted to know 16-5.
That's fine work, sir.
Actually I see I must have missed a game as you have 22 games listed. So it's either 17-5 or 16-6. But why quibble.
It was 23. but you picked Wash State Friday both to cover and to not cover vs Hou.
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Well I see you didn't add mine up Kid ma brutha.
But in case you wanted to know 16-5.
That's fine work, sir.
Actually I see I must have missed a game as you have 22 games listed. So it's either 17-5 or 16-6. But why quibble.
It was 23. but you picked Wash State Friday both to cover and to not cover vs Hou.
Actually it was 22. I was just taking Wash St to win and trying unsuccessfully to make a stupid joke at the same time.
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Well I see you didn't add mine up Kid ma brutha.
But in case you wanted to know 16-5.
That's fine work, sir.
Actually I see I must have missed a game as you have 22 games listed. So it's either 17-5 or 16-6. But why quibble.
It was 23. but you picked Wash State Friday both to cover and to not cover vs Hou.
Actually it was 22. I was just taking Wash St to win and trying unsuccessfully to make a stupid joke at the same time.
whatev
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Well I see you didn't add mine up Kid ma brutha.
But in case you wanted to know 16-5.
That's fine work, sir.
Actually I see I must have missed a game as you have 22 games listed. So it's either 17-5 or 16-6. But why quibble.
It was 23. but you picked Wash State Friday both to cover and to not cover vs Hou.
Actually it was 22. I was just taking Wash St to win and trying unsuccessfully to make a stupid joke at the same time.
whatev
As I said. Not really that important. Sorry I mentioned it dude.
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Eventual 2019-2020 National Champion Michigan State 24, Northwestern 6
Yes, our offense only managed 7 points, but we moved the ball. Now to put the biscuit in the basket! Eventual 2019 Heisman Trophy Winner Brian Lewerke looks to have recovered from his injuries of last year and has picked up where he left off in 2017. For better and worse. I doubt Matt Coghlin goes 0-3 on field goals again. Defensively, we can clog up anyone’s run game, and I don’t see much in the air from NU. Defensive game, but I think we can get three or four scores on the Cats.
University of California* 27, Utah 21
If I am right, by the way, that will effectively drop the PAWCP Conference from the playoffs again. I suppose that technically Wazzou can run the table, but I doubt it. Anyway, a regrouping by the Scottsdale flash, as Clay Helton trembles on the cusp of Most Fired again. Can he last until the new AD is hired? The Urban Meyer watch is on.
*Southern
Oregon 31, Stanford 14
I guess if the PAWCP has a playoff chance, it rests with Oregon running the table. Their one loss is opening night against a solid team, and the committee is pretty lenient with the early season loss – provided that is the only loss. I am not sure what has happened to Stanford, but they are looking like a shell of the team they have been under Shaw.
Old Missississippi 24, University of California* 17
Cal has not shown much offense this year, but then Missississippi lost to Memphis. I think Cal is 3 – 0 on the verge of 5 – 7. Missississippi is nothing to boast of, but they are at home.
*
Wisconsin 27, Meatchicken 15
It is really hard to judge either of these teams based upon what I have seen so far. Wisky has smoked two pretty bad teams – they appear to be going back to the eat three cupcakes OOC mode that they had recently shaken off – but Meatchicken has looked lethargic offensively in its two wins. Wisky at home, and I think Jonathan Taylor Thomas will show some home improvement, pounding the ball on Meatchicken’s rebuilt defense.
THE 52, Miami of Ohio 7
The only reason for the 7 is my impression that THE’s defense takes its foot off the peddle now and then. I see nothing about Miami to think this will be close after, oh, the ten minute mark. I think OSU looks like they could be a playoff team, especially given the questions I have about PSU and Methchicken – I made a typo (Meathchicken), and am now officially changing my disparaging term for them.
Georgia 35, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 17
Those of you – cap, his alter ego – wanting to see the Big Whatever not make the playoffs should root for OLofPT. I think the only way a one loss Big Whatever champion loses out on the playoffs is last year’s way – an unbeaten OLofPT. I just don’t see it for them. Georgia’s running game is too Swift for OLotPT, and Georgia’s defense will keep them in check. Book it. Georgia and Alabama should both be unbeaten come December.
ClemSIN 105, Charlotte 0
Seriously? Why? I really think we need a mercy rule. Which in this case should be called maybe two minutes after kick off.
Florida 32, Tennessee 21
Florida at 9 strikes me as a result that can only come from not watching them play. The first of their three losses won’t come until they play Auburn in October, though. Tennessee’s season reminds me of the Generalissimo Franco death watch. Just a matter of time.
Auburn 24, Texas A&M 21
Three of Auburn’s last five games are LSU, Georgia and Alabama, which is a tough stretch even with Sister Clara’s Little Sisters of the Poor on God’s Conference’s annual late season cupcake weekend. I look for Derrick Brown to be buried in the Mond all day. I’ll side with Auburn’s defense.
Oklahoma State 45, Texas 41
Because Oklahoma State has a running back named Chuba, and no other reason.
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Cap, here's something really funny about alter egos....over on the Trump thread, guess who could easily be my alter ego, his posts express my views to a T, even down to our admiration for a certain movie star, Emma! !
Well, you know the old saying: politics make strange fed bellows.
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As much as it pains me to say it OSU has one of my top 10 defenses in the nation. And I'm starting to get this itchy feeling up my spine and into the back of my brain that it is even better than I want to admit.
I'm sure Stevo has a good idea of how much I want to be wrong. Sadly I'm seldom wrong about defenses.
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Friday 9/19
Air Force +8.5 at Boise State
USC +4 vs Utah
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I've been thinking about changing my name to Captain Magnanimous.
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Some teasing, sure. But other than the reprehensible ham, who rubbed your nose in Sandusky?
There is something about the last five words that seems inappropriate....
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Top 25 Saturday 9/20
Alabama -38 vs Souther Miss
Vanderbilt +22 vs LSU
Florida -14 vs Tennessee
Michigan +3 vs Wisconsin
Mississippi +1.5 vs Cal
Miami (OH) +38 at Ohio State
Auburn +4 at Texas A and M
Central Florida -10 at Pitt
BYU +6.5 vs Washington
TCU -9.5 vs SMU
Oregon -8.5 at Stanford
Virginia -30 vs Old Dominion
Clemson -41 vs Charlotte
Oklahoma State +7 at Texas
Notre Dame +12 at Georgia
Colorado +7 at Arizona State
Washington State -17 vs UCLA
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Some teasing, sure. But other than the reprehensible ham, who rubbed your nose in Sandusky?
There is something about the last five words that seems inappropriate....
Why are you asking me?
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Some teasing, sure. But other than the reprehensible ham, who rubbed your nose in Sandusky?
There is something about the last five words that seems inappropriate....
Why are you asking me?
I assumed your alter ego speaks for you, in much the same way Miss Piggy speaks for Frank Oz.
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I can’t remember if I hate anyone or not...
:)
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Making my Big House debut next weekend, Whiskey.
So how much time did you get sent up for.
LOW Highlights nominee
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Some teasing, sure. But other than the reprehensible ham, who rubbed your nose in Sandusky?
There is something about the last five words that seems inappropriate....
Why are you asking me?
I assumed your alter ego speaks for you, in much the same way Miss Piggy speaks for Frank Oz.
But it's so unlike you to make assumptions.
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Friday 9/19
Air Force +8.5 at Boise State
USC +4 vs Utah
Boise, Utah.
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Boise, Utah.
I would have been ok with you taking BYU last week. But I would take USC at home for this one.
The biggest problem with USC football right now is that literally anything could happen though.
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Boise, Utah.
I would have been ok with you taking BYU last week. But I would take USC at home for this one.
The biggest problem with USC football right now is that literally anything could happen though.
I agree. I'm still waiting for the Trojan talent on the defensive side to shine.
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Michigan State 24, Northwestern 22
I actually want to pull the upset trigger. But the 'safety' seems to be on.
USC( Say it with me Stevo U S C ) 19, Utah 27
I don’t have a lot of faith in USC to stop the Utah offense. If he’s not throwing INTs or lying flat on his back young Hector could keep it close though.
Oregon 31, Stanford 18
Stanford is looking terrible. Shaw looks to be getting shanked in this one too.
Ole Miss 17, Cal 16
I think the Rebels have a good chance to out physical the Bears in between the tackles on offense. Will they try to do it though is the question. Stacks up to be a low scoring game I think. I’ll take the Rebels.
Wisconsin 23, Meatchicken 26
As Stevo said, It is really hard to judge either of these teams based upon what I have seen so far. Wisky has smoked two pretty bad teams – they appear to be going back to the eat three cupcakes OOC mode that they had recently shaken off – but Meatchicken has looked lethargic offensively in its two wins. But, is this the week that Shea Patterson’s body finally heals completely? He’s a better passer than he’s shown so far IMO. A shit-ton of high passes in his last game indicated to me that the oblique injury was still nagging his follow through. I’m throwing the dice and saying he doesn’t have that problem this week and he doesn’t miss receivers that are wide open like he did in the last game.
THE 62, Miami of Ohio 7
OSU, so far, hasn’t taken a week off and will continue to play hard on first string. At least until they’re 4 TDs ahead.
Georgia 32, 1966, 27
I don’t think it will be the blowout everyone is predicting. I’m thinking that this game eventually comes down to the 4th quarter. Georgia has the better players overall yes, and the home field advantage. But still don’t expect the Irish to just roll over in this one.
Clemson 66, Charlotte 3
Uhhh….I got nuthin. Hmmm…49ers need to be spotted 49 just to keep from losing by double digits? No, that’s lame. Screw it.
Florida 32, Tennessee 21
The Gators lost their QB. The backup is pretty good though, and the Vol Defense couldn’t stop me. We’ll see how the QB whisperer Mullen does with the Kid.
Auburn 20, Texas A&M 27
I think that the Aggies winning the field position battle will be an important factor in this game. And can the Tigers run the ball with any consistency?
Oklahoma State 45, Texas 41
Because Oklahoma State has a running back named Chuba, and no other reason. Maybe, but another thing will be that Texas IMO doesn’t have a great secondary or great LBs either for that matter.
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Oregon 31, Stanford 18
Stanford is looking terrible. Shaw looks to be getting shanked in this one too.
The thing with the Pac 12 is ...just when you think something is obvious...it changes.
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Oregon 31, Stanford 18
Stanford is looking terrible. Shaw looks to be getting shanked in this one too.
The thing with the Pac 12 is ...just when you think something is obvious...it changes.
True, they are playing in conference now.
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Top 25 Saturday 9/20
Alabama -38 vs Souther Miss
Vanderbilt +22 vs LSU
Florida -14 vs Tennessee
Michigan +3 vs Wisconsin
Mississippi +1.5 vs Cal
Miami (OH) +38 at Ohio State
Auburn +4 at Texas A and M
Central Florida -10 at Pitt
BYU +6.5 vs Washington
TCU -9.5 vs SMU
Oregon -8.5 at Stanford
Virginia -30 vs Old Dominion
Clemson -41 vs Charlotte
Oklahoma State +7 at Texas
Notre Dame +12 at Georgia
Colorado +7 at Arizona State
Washington State -17 vs UCLA
Bama, Vandy, Tenn, Mich, Miss, Miami(OH), Tex A&M, UCF, Wash, TCU, Oregon, Old Dom, Clemson, Okie St, ND, Zona St, Wash St
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Georgia 32, 1966, 27
I laughed.
nice job cap
But to some its 19666, and the demon will never be exorcised!
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Well, that is our score for the afternoon!
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Georgia 32, 1966, 27
I laughed.
Oh, me to. As long as they who must not be named are not named.
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Total shit call on the reversal. Review ref should be fired on the spot.
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I'm still waiting for the Trojan talent on the defensive side to shine.
I thought they played well yesterday. They gave up a lot of yards, but they made critical stops in the red zone again and again.
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I'm still waiting for the Trojan talent on the defensive side to shine.
I thought they played well yesterday. They gave up a lot of yards, but they made critical stops in the red zone again and again.
They made some jarred hits that is for sure, and made the critical stops and takeaways when they needed to. Loved their physicality!
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I have to admit that I never expected to see a Don Brown defense get pasted like that.
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I think Miami made THE angry, with that quick 5 - 0 lead.
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Somehow the plucky lads from THE are still unbeaten despite the brutal schedule they have faced
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Yeah. Ohio State should have scheduled Charlotte.
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They will get their comeuppance on October 5.
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Will Methckicken be able to keep it close against Rutgers? Discuss.
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Michigan State won, Methchicken got their ass handed to them, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses. Couldn't ask for a better birthday.
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Well that was an amusing little game from Pullman
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I wonder what the record for most touchdowns thrown in a loss is.
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Bad week for picking 8-10 vs spread. 6-5 straight up.
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Yeah. Ohio State should have scheduled Charlotte.
;-)
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Will Methckicken be able to keep it close against Rutgers? Discuss.
Is Wisconsin really that good? That's what I'd like to discuss.
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Will Methckicken be able to keep it close against Rutgers? Discuss.
Is Wisconsin really that good? That's what I'd like to discuss.
Methchicken has not shown much offense this year, so I am not sure what.to make of their defense. It is the 1543 yards (roughly) Taylor got in the first quarter that shocked me. I know a lot of last years' defense is gone, but still that was impressive. There are some good, penetrating Defenses coming up for Wisky - us, THE - and the in conference schedule is a test in a way their OOC was not. NU has a good but not elite defense. MSU is October 12, but we remain a juggernaught on offense. And yes I intended that misspelling. So it may take the trip to Columbus on 10/26 to know for sure.
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Yes
Of course WIS needs to be consodered a front runner for a playoff spot
The WHAMMY, I've just given them.
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Michigan ended last season embarrassed in Columbus as Dwayne Haskin’s air assault wen on to pile up 540 yards of offense. Yesterday in Madison Jonathan Taylor led a ground attack that piled up 359 yards.
The lingering effect of this punchless Michigan team is what its failures against good teams does to the perceived SOS of the B1G.
Harbaugh’s post game analysis was not encouraging;
(Wisconsin) outplayed us offensively and defensively,” We were outplayed. Outprepared and outcoached. …
The whole thing.
It was thorough.
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Alabama -38 vs Souther Miss W
Vanderbilt +22 vs LSU L
Florida -14 vs Tennessee W
Michigan +3 vs Wisconsin L
Mississippi +1.5 vs Cal L
Miami (OH) +38 at Ohio State L
Auburn +4 at Texas A and M W
Central Florida -10 at Pitt L
BYU +6.5 vs Washington L
TCU -9.5 vs SMU L
Oregon -8.5 at Stanford W
Virginia -30 vs Old Dominion L
Clemson -41 vs Charlotte W
Oklahoma State +7 at Texas W
Notre Dame +12 at Georgia W
Colorado +7 at Arizona State W
Washington State -17 vs UCLA L
8-9
9-10 week
38-39 overall
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Bad week for picking 8-10 vs spread. 6-5 straight up.
We both struggled, but I'll take the weekly W
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Interesting pre-game Friday at the USC/Utah game at the LA Coliseum.
The Fox crew led by Reggie Bush and Urban Meyer were hailed by the early arrivals.
Everything relating to Bush has been purged from USC down to his uniform number, which no longer is displayed at the stadium. But the crowd still shouted REGGIE as if his NCAA violations never occurred.
Then they switched to HIRE URBAN as Meyer tried to pretend studying his notes.
One fan shouted " pay him anything he wants!".
Well Clay Helton's Trjans won a thrilling game so the " most fired" label is off the table for a while.
But the half-empty stadium for the game underscored a bigger problem in luring a big name coach if the season disappoints.
Money.
The Pac12 is dead last among power five conferences in TV money.The B1G doles out $54 million per team
while the PAC12, without a partnered TV network and sagging attendance, to lag in revenue at $29.5 million.
The financial pain is severe in recruiting budgets, salaries, and staffing. Alabama has 12 football analysts to augment its coaching staff, Oregon, even with Phil Knight's bank account, has six. Now the major powers are much more aggressive in recruiting California high school players.
So it will be difficult to lure a big name coach like Meyer if success, under strained finances, is limited to beating Pac12 teams and watching the playoffs on TV as the league has done since 2016 for four straight years.]
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I have always argued that with just four teams the playoffs should be Conference Champs only. the Pennsylvania State over THE three years ago, THE over Bama two years ago, THE over Our Lady of the Perpetual tie last year. Join a Conference or enjoy your bowl game.
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Non Conference Records
Against FBS competition.
B1G
Overall: 27-7 (79.4%) million f
Vs. FBS: 24-7 (77.4%)
Vs. P-5: 5-4 (55.6%)
Vs. Ranked Teams: 0-1 (0%)
Notable Results: Iowa 18, Iowa State | Stanford 17, Northwestern 7 | Penn State 17, Pittsburgh 10
Big 12
Overall: 22-5 (81.5%)
Vs. FBS: 13-5 (72.2%)
Vs. P-5: 6-4 (60%)
Vs. Ranked Teams: 0-2 (0%)
Notable Results: Iowa 18, Iowa State 17 | LSU 45, Texas 38 | West Virginia 44, NC State 27
SEC
Overall: 23-8 (74.2%)
Vs. FBS: 15-8 (63.2%)
Vs. P-5: 4-5 (44.4%)
Vs. Ranked Teams: 2-1 (66.7%)
Notable Results: LSU 45, Texas 38 | Auburn 27, Oregon 21 | Clemson 24, Texas A&M 10
PAC12
Overall: 22-10 (68.8%)
Vs. FBS: 14-10 (58.3%)
Vs. P-5: 5-4 (55.6%)
Vs. Ranked Teams: 2-2 (50%)
Notable Results: Auburn 27, Oregon 21 | Arizona State 10, Michigan State 7 | Colorado 34, Nebraska 31
b]ACC[/b]
Overall: 20-10 (66.7%)
Vs. FBS: 12-9 (57.1%)
Vs. P-5: 3-8 (27.3%)
Vs. Ranked Teams: 1-4 (20%)
Notable Results: Clemson 24, Texas A&M 10 | Maryland 63, Syracuse 20 | Penn State 17, Pittsburgh 10
AAC
Overall: 21-10 (67.7%)
Vs. FBS: 12-10 (54.5%)
Vs. P-5: 4-10 (28.6%)
Vs. Ranked Teams: 1-6 (14.3%)
Notable Results: UCF 45, Stanford 27 | Ohio State 42, Cincinnati 0 | Oklahoma 49, Houston 31 | Temple 20, Maryland 17
Stats compiled by 24/7
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Good work there - thanks
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I wonder what the record for most touchdowns thrown in a loss is.
9 is a pretty safe bet
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Interesting pre-game Friday at the USC/Utah game at the LA Coliseum.
The Fox crew led by Reggie Bush and Urban Meyer were hailed by the early arrivals.
Everything relating to Bush has been purged from USC down to his uniform number, which no longer is displayed at the stadium. But the crowd still shouted REGGIE as if his NCAA violations never occurred.
Then they switched to HIRE URBAN as Meyer tried to pretend studying his notes.
One fan shouted " pay him anything he wants!".
Well Clay Helton's Trjans won a thrilling game so the " most fired" label is off the table for a while.
But the half-empty stadium for the game underscored a bigger problem in luring a big name coach if the season disappoints.
Money.
The Pac12 is dead last among power five conferences in TV money.The B1G doles out $54 million per team
while the PAC12, without a partnered TV network and sagging attendance, to lag in revenue at $29.5 million.
The financial pain is severe in recruiting budgets, salaries, and staffing. Alabama has 12 football analysts to augment its coaching staff, Oregon, even with Phil Knight's bank account, has six. Now the major powers are much more aggressive in recruiting California high school players.
So it will be difficult to lure a big name coach like Meyer if success, under strained finances, is limited to beating Pac12 teams and watching the playoffs on TV as the league has done since 2016 for four straight years.]
That's why California passes their pay the players legislation. If you can't recruit them. Simply buy them.
What used to be the old fashioned way will now simply be legal in Cali. Well, if they have their way that is.
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I have always argued that with just four teams the playoffs should be Conference Champs only. the Pennsylvania State over THE three years ago, THE over Bama two years ago, THE over Our Lady of the Perpetual tie last year. Join a Conference or enjoy your bowl game.
And I've always argued that that argument is sheer folly. "If" your desired outcome is to have the four best teams in the Playoff.
"If" your desired outcome is to create a 'league' comprised of the five 'Power Five' conferences then it is a good argument. Slam dunk in fact. ;-)
No, IMO the reason the CFP came into existence was to get that ever elusive 'assurance' that the best teams get into the playoffs. Under the sheer folly argument the eventual winner two years ago doesn't even get in. An event that is totally counterintuitive to the reason why the CPF exists.
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The absence of meaningful interconference competition makes that judgment subjective. Want into the playoffs? Beat Auburn. Beat Penn State. Three years ago, no one said, you know, PSU beating THE was a fluke and they had only one loss to PSU's 2 and so their overall resumes are not comparable. Let's have a Committee put them in the Big Whatev championship game! Prove your merit on the field by winning the games that matter most.
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An addendum to my previous post about Non-Conference play which included the B1G, Big12,SEC, ACC, the PAC 12 and the AAC.
The conference with the most wins against Power 5 teams is the Mountain West.
Its teams have won seven games this season against Power 5 opponents. Hawaii beat Arizona in Week 0 and then beat Oregon State in Week 2. The Rainbow Warriors’ Pac-12 title dreams didn’t get crushed until last week when they fell 52-20 at Washington. Nevada dispatched Purdue with a 56-yard field goal by a freshman walk-on as time expired on Friday of Week 1. Boise State beat Florida State the next afternoon. Wyoming beat Missouri later that day. San Diego State beat UCLA in Week 2. Air Force beat Colorado last week.
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Hairy is right about inter-conference scheduling.
...and...I think I just felt a disturbance in the space time continuum
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Hairy is right about inter-conference scheduling.
...and...I think I just felt a disturbance in the space time continuum
I am still processing that comment.
Meanwhile, though I don't think he is a candidate for "Most Fired", could Harbaugh be on the "Most "Resigned"" list by year end?
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
That comment was solely to elicit the last part of the one above yours.
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Hairy is right about inter-conference scheduling.
...and...I think I just felt a disturbance in the space time continuum
I am still processing that comment.
Meanwhile, though I don't think he is a candidate for "Most Fired", could Harbaugh be on the "Most "Resigned"" list by year end?
As long as Harbaugh is running a clean program and graduating his Student-athletes, he will be at Michigan as long as he wants. UM did not like the stain on its name brought about by the Basketball scandal and will do everything necessary to prevent a repeat. Hard for some to understand but these top educational universities have more on their minds than winning at all
Costs. Unless his players turn on him, He remains The Michigan Man.
Hence, Most Resigned rather than Most Fired.
Barring drastic improvement by the O Line, QB and defense, there is a real chance of a 6 or 7 win season with losses to huge rivals Michigan State, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, and a second straight utter hosing by THE. You may think the school has class, but boosters are boosters, and Methchicken boosters do not appreciate the Pinstripe Bowl.
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A "National" Championship should, in my opinion, have some national representation. Per Cap's argument, does that mean the loser of a SEC championship game could be left out of the playoffs?
Yes, IMO, because the playoffs should have a national representation, not a regional (SEC) one.
And let's be honest here, the two-teams from the SEC scenario is the key question. Even if the
"Best" four teams are from the SEC, which could be true some years, the rest of the country deserves to have a chance to get beat on the field by the "better" teams.
Hairy is right about inter-conference scheduling. It could be arranged quite easily. Following their NFL model, the NCAA could do the scheduling like the NFL does based on the preview season.
Schools will no longer be able to have their cupcakes and eat them,too, but will be given a diet
of healthy competition in their out of conference games.
Bottom line: the reshuffling of the conferences was a hatchet job and went completely a wry.
The playoffs are 100 times better than the BCS bullshit. America is the land of opportunity, and in the college playoffs, that means wider representation for the "National" championship.
Opinions vary my old friend. And I would have little to zero issue with Power Five conferences playing each other. Other than it strangling the last life's breath out of the so-called lower tier conferences. They get a lot of their funding from those games playing the big boys. And I think those people who support those lower conferences would like to keep getting that funding. And by rights they sort of deserve it IMO, because they are really a large part what amateur college football is still about. What it was meant to be about. When they die or cease to have any relevancy at all the country will sadly lose something special. We'll lose the soul of college football, if we haven't already. And with the new Cali initiative what's to stop these lower conferences to start their own college pay for play leagues? A sort of college USFL and a buying war. But I suppose we can't shove the evil Jinn back in the bottle now.
But back to the subject.
I would have zero issue with Power Five conferences playing each other. Except IMO you're not going to get a whole lot more to evaluation gold from Alabama putting an asswhuppin on Kansas or Purdue. And you could potentially lose more possible great matchups in the postseason as the games are already played in season, and it blows up those great playoff postseason games before they happen. I prefer the mystery of the playoff games and Bowl games for the rest. So I am in favor of keeping the status quo as to OOC scheduling and simply expanding to either 6 or 8 teams.
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Perusing the Massey Ratings today and I noticed he seems to disagree with me on the status of the Buckeyed defense.
I've got them in my Top 10 and he ranks them currently at #23.
Now it may be that his algorithm ties into his SOS somehow and thus doesn't give them stellar defensive grades simply due to the caliber offense they've played against. And that harkens back to my old argument about so-called computer rankings. All they can do is run numbers.
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Michigan State 30, Indiana 3
We were not great against NU, but Eventual 2019 Heisman Trophy Winner Brian Lewerke was efficient enough to win. I look for a repeat, using the tight end and getting the ball in Stewart’s hands. Our defense really only allowed a late scoring drive featuring a lot of backups last week. I think Bache will have a ball and the MSUD can stop IU’s offensive attack. I would not count on the IUD stopping anything. I really like that sentence.
the Pennsylvania State 35, Maryland 17
I think the bloom is off Maryland after an impressive start. A loss to Temple can do that for you. After Pitt out Davided David last week, the close loss to the Fightin’ Nards looks better.
Arizona State 27, University of California* 21
They may be unbeaten, but I am still not a bearliever. They are too mediocre in every aspect of their game. I had them at 5-7 last week, I guess it is 6-6. Arizona State has been inconsistent under Edwards, but I think they take care of the Friday game.
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Texas A&M 52, Arkansas 10
Jesus, Arkansas sucks. They are about to go the second straight year without a Conference win and last had a winning team when Sarah Palin was considered by some a viable political candidate. They just lost to a MWC team that won one game in 2018. Granted, it is no longer 2018, but still. That Hog/Old Missississippi game is going to be one for the ages.
Methchicken 24, Rutgers 17
Well, they ARE Rutgers.
ClemSIN 52, North Carolina 0
The bloom went off the Mack Brown rose damned quick, didn’t it. I am not sure why ClemSIN seems a little off offensively this year – which is kind of scary when you think about it – but they really have nine more games to get everything clicking.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 24, Virginia 10
OLotPT did better defensively against Georgia than I thought they would, but except for a late scare, their best offensive drive was about 6 yards. I think they are out of the playoff picture unless multiple conference champs lose twice, but if they have any hope at all they need to be aware of let down games like this one. Virginia has not been exactly dominant this year, so OLotPT should get by.
Washington 31, University of California* 21
I admit not having full information on the QB for the Trojans, but it looks like they might be starting their second second string quarterback. Washington took down a BYU team that beat SC the week before. I am not a fan of the transitive properties of wins, but I will go with that, plus the home field, this week.
* Southern
Utah 42, Washington State 35
The collapse on the Palouse was epic.
THE 42, Nebraska 10
The Scott Frost leads the Huskers to their former glory storyline looks like it will have to wait a year more. They needed an epic comeback to beat a pretty bad Illinois team. Meanwhile, I see nothing in Nebraska to make me think they can stop Fields or Dobbins. I may be a little behind cap in rating THE defense – those occasional lapses will get them eventually if they continue – but I would not be frightened too much of Nebraska’s offense.
Wisconsin 31, Northwestern 3
Northwestern could not score against OUR defense until garbage time. Maybe Methchicken’s offense is just bad, but the defensive beat down Wisky has been putting on people all year has been impressive. NU’s defense is reasonably stout, but Wisky should keep Taylor rolling.
Auburn 27, Old Missississippi State 20
Kind of want to pull the trap game upset lever – Auburn is between TAMU and Florida - but just cannot.
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Top 25 picks
9/26
Memphis -10.5 vs Navy
9/27
Virginia Tech -2.5 vs Duke
Maryland +6.5 vs Penn State
Air Force -19.5 vs San Jose St
Wisconsin -24.5 vs Northwestern
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Top 25 picks
9/26
Memphis -10.5 vs Navy
9/27
Virginia Tech -2.5 vs Duke
Maryland +6.5 vs Penn State
Air Force -19.5 vs San Jose St
Wisconsin -24.5 vs Northwestern
Of the games that actually have a Top 25 team playing I'll take Penn St. And Northwestern. And now Cal.
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
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Yeah - had a bad link....
Top 25
Friday 9/27
Maryland +6.5 vs Penn State
California -4.5 vs Arizona State
- WIS/Northwestern is Saturday and will be on that list. So pick the Cal game if you wish.
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Washington 31, University of California* 21
I admit not having full information on the QB for the Trojans, but it looks like they might be starting their second second string quarterback. Washington took down a BYU team that beat SC the week before. I am not a fan of the transitive properties of wins, but I will go with that, plus the home field, this week.
* Southern
We are pretty close on this. I had UW 34 USC 24.
It is our third string QB, btw. Our 2nd string is still not cleared to play. If he is unavailable as a backup, we are looking at a walk on QB that converted to safety a year or two ago as the backup.
But our 3rd string QB is pretty good. I think that may have hurt Utah actually since they prepared for Slovis and wound up with Fink. Fink is a running QB and so that may actually be handy against UW's three man front.
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That was a Cardale Jones related dig at cap.
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That was a Cardale Jones related dig at cap.
Cardale who?
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
And allowed to transfer from one team to another, under any circumstances, without having to sit a year.
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Michigan State 30, Indiana 3
First, hey it’s Indiana. Barring a letdown the Spartan defense will handle this. And offense, kick a damn FG willya?
Penn State 35, Maryland 17
We’re gonna kick some turtle ass.
Arizona State 20, Cal 29
Is the Zona State defense really good? Or, is the Michigan State offense really bad?
Texas A&M 52, Arkansas 10
Stevo said everything that needed to say in his first line, Arkansas sucks.
Michigan 44, Rutgers 10
Sure, beat up some little kid just because you can’t beat your peers.
Clemson 34, North Carolina 12
This might even look close. For a while.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 24, Virginia 17
Not sure how ND is going to come out in this game. Will they pout or pound?
Washington 31, USC* 21
Washington has improved every game. That’s what I expect out of a Chris Petersen coached team. He’s the Coach Carter of the PAC 12.
* University of California
Utah 38, Washington State 39
Really it beats me who wins this one. Does Utah have a good defense like I thought they would? It seems not but…
THE 42, Nebraska 9
Fields and Dobbins, Field and Stream, Fields and Croft, it doesn’t matter. Same old song. The Huskers won’t score. Well not nearly enough to win. Maybe not at all.
Wisconsin 31, Northwestern 3
I’m on the Wisconsin bandwagon.
Auburn 37, Miss State 13
Ole Miss St really misses their Ole Head coach.
Oklahoma 45, Texas Tech 26
The Sooners have one of the preeminent offenses in the nation, STOP. If you’re looking for a defense on their schedule that will contain them, STOP.
Alabama 39, Ole Miss 20
Saban has another mini meltdown when his second string defense doesn’t perform up to snuff. But, I understand why he gets bent out of shape. When or if the time comes for two SEC teams to be named, and he is not the SEC champ, people will once again look to winning margin and defensive PPG when it comes to the Tide. That’s how he gets in the voter’s heads. Well that and the fact that he and another guy have dominated the playoff’s thus far.
Florida 31, Towson 22
Trap game?
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
And allowed to transfer from one team to another, under any circumstances, without having to sit a year.
Orange=Meyer Professional
Apple=College football player Amateur.
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
And allowed to transfer from one team to another, under any circumstances, without having to sit a year.
Orange=Meyer Professional
Apple=College football player Amateur.
Orange: Actual signed contract.
Apple. Not so much.
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
And allowed to transfer from one team to another, under any circumstances, without having to sit a year.
Orange=Meyer Professional
Apple=College football player Amateur.
Orange: Actual signed contract.
Apple. Not so much.
Orange: A processional contract with clauses covering early termination by both sides.
Apple: Amateur with rules and regulations and commitment. In fact that is the exact word used when signing.
But maybe you're not getting the whole apples and oranges concept. Try googling it.
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
And allowed to transfer from one team to another, under any circumstances, without having to sit a year.
Orange=Meyer Professional
Apple=College football player Amateur.
Orange: Actual signed contract.
Apple. Not so much.
Orange: A processional contract with clauses rules and regulations and commitment in binding contract form covering early termination by both sides.
Apple: Amateur with rules and regulations and commitment that only binds or penalizes him.
FIFY.
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Washington has improved every game.
We're saving our dry powder for the Pac-12 championship game. Letting them win at home will lull them into a false sense of security.
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
And allowed to transfer from one team to another, under any circumstances, without having to sit a year.
Orange=Meyer Professional
Apple=College football player Amateur.
Orange: Actual signed contract.
Apple. Not so much.
Orange: A processional contract with clauses rules and regulations and commitment in binding contract form covering early termination by both sides.
Apple: Amateur with rules and regulations and commitment that only binds or penalizes him.
FIFY.
If you think being true to your word is a 'penalty'. Heckuva way to start your adult life eh.
Orange: A processional contract with clauses rules and regulations and commitment in binding contract form covering early termination by both sides.
Exactly. One is a legal document for a Professional.
Amateurs don't have that. They are governed by the 'rules'. Don't like the rules? Don't play. Don't like that there is an out of bounds line? Too bad, don't play. Don't like that you have to wait a year rules? DON'T PLAY. You don't get to take your ball and go home. It's their fucking ball. ;-)
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Washington has improved every game.
We're saving our dry powder for the Pac-12 championship game. Letting them win at home will lull them into a false sense of security.
Nothing like a good lull.
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
And allowed to transfer from one team to another, under any circumstances, without having to sit a year.
Orange=Meyer Professional
Apple=College football player Amateur.
Orange: Actual signed contract.
Apple. Not so much.
Orange: A processional contract with clauses rules and regulations and commitment in binding contract form covering early termination by both sides.
Apple: Amateur with rules and regulations and commitment that only binds or penalizes him.
FIFY.
If you think being true to your word is a 'penalty'. Heckuva way to start your adult life eh.
Orange: A processional contract with clauses rules and regulations and commitment in binding contract form covering early termination by both sides.
Exactly. One is a legal document for a Professional.
Amateurs don't have that. They are governed by the 'rules'. Don't like the rules?
Change the rules so that they are fair to the student athlete.
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And would Methchicken have an interest in hiring Urban Meyer?
Makes more sense than Southern Cal.
But blood is thicker than water.
And Meyer’s is so Scarlet he would never entertain that choice.
Meyer is a mercenary.
And allowed to transfer from one team to another, under any circumstances, without having to sit a year.
Orange=Meyer Professional
Apple=College football player Amateur.
Orange: Actual signed contract.
Apple. Not so much.
Orange: A processional contract with clauses rules and regulations and commitment in binding contract form covering early termination by both sides.
Apple: Amateur with rules and regulations and commitment that only binds or penalizes him.
FIFY.
If you think being true to your word is a 'penalty'. Heckuva way to start your adult life eh.
Orange: A processional contract with clauses rules and regulations and commitment in binding contract form covering early termination by both sides.
Exactly. One is a legal document for a Professional.
Amateurs don't have that. They are governed by the 'rules'. Don't like the rules?
Change the rules so that they are fair to the student athlete.
Well, someone's definition of what's fair is not the same as someone else's definition of fair. I suppose that's about all we are ever going to agree on here.
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Lousy camera angles, never touched his head or neck area. I hate the targeting rule.
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Hey offensive coordinator they are NOT guarding the QB run on first and second down. Wake the fuck up!
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Lousy camera angles, never touched his head or neck area. I hate the targeting rule.
These guys need to keep their heads up and keep their feet on the ground while tackling. Good call bad coaching.
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A couple of weeks ago I said Penn State would beat Maryland by 4 touchdowns. I think I was wrong.
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How is the Maryland guy supposed to not hit the guy?
The targeting rule sucks!
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Didn't really expect this. Wow.
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Boy,.Syracuse must suuuuuuuuck.
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Today I will take all favorites except
Oklahoma
Norte Dame
Washington
Oklahoma State
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
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Hello from The Big House. I miss Keith Jackson.
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Hello from The Big Out House. I miss Keith Jackson.
FIFY
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A totally, a really good place to watch a game. Enjoy yourself.
Something about seeing Wisky in throwback uniforms seems... apt.
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gutsy call on Tobaacco Rd.
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gutsy call on Tobaacco Rd.
Yes it was. How many #1 votes does Clemson lose to Bama in the next coaches poll? Or the AP for that matter.
Or Georgia gaining some #1 votes too. As ND looks like they are going to polish off a previously undefeated Cavalier team enhancing the Bulldog's win over the Irish.
My guess is Clemson bleeds some voters. I'll guess Bama who had 6 AP votes and 2 Coaches votes ends up with 16 and 10 respectively. That may be a conservative guess.
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even if they fall to #2 BFD, as long as they stay in top 4 when it counts
a little scare now and a Dabo coaching mooment might be a good thing for Clemson longer-term
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Good for Coughlin.
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Bad call.
OSU capitalizes on it.
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Do you really think it matters, in the long run?
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Do you really think it matters, in the long run?
Did you see my prediction for this game?
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even if they fall to #2 BFD, as long as they stay in top 4 when it counts
a little scare now and a Dabo coaching mooment might be a good thing for Clemson longer-term
You're right of course. Just wondering.
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Congrats to Stevo for going a perfect 12-0 in picks this week. Nicely done bro.
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I'm keeping that coin in case I run into Anton Chigurh.
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gutsy call on Tobaacco Rd.
Yes it was. How many #1 votes does Clemson lose to Bama in the next coaches poll? Or the AP for that matter.
Or Georgia gaining some #1 votes too. As ND looks like they are going to polish off a previously undefeated Cavalier team enhancing the Bulldog's win over the Irish.
My guess is Clemson bleeds some voters. I'll guess Bama who had 6 AP votes and 2 Coaches votes ends up with 16 and 10 respectively. That may be a conservative guess.
I would not drop them, but then I favor body of work and try not to get caught up in a "how were they in their most recent game" mindset. What gives me more pause about yesterday - I missed long swaths of the game including the end - is that the year long trend of their offense just not clicking continues. On the other hand, in prior years ClemSIN lost that type of game; Pitt and Syracuse two or three years ago.
So my real question is, given Hurts and Burrows and Fields and Tua, has Jennifer Lawrence played himself out of Heisman contention?
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Notes from week 5
Toledo came from behind 7 points in the 4th quarter to win by 7 for the first time since 1971. (The third year of a 35 game winning streak- still second behind Oklahoma) The Rockets beat BYU (who beat USC) 28-21.
Since 2015, Rutgers has been outscored 204-37 in four games against Michigan. (52-0 yesterday)
Penn State has outscored Maryland 163-6 over the last three years.
The PAC 12’s playoff hopes took another hit. Cal’s loss left the league with no undefeated teams in September since the league expanded to 12 in 2011
Oklahoma and Notre Dame each recorded their 900th all-time victory, tying Nebraska for 6th place.( Michigan and Ohio State are 1-2)
Ryan Day was asked “ how good are the Buckeyes(5-0 after demolishing Nebraska)? “ As Woody always said, if anybody calls you good kick ‘em in the Shins”!
Mike Leach, describing his Washington State team after its second loss (38-13 to Utah yesterday)
“ We're a very soft team,
We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and if we get any resistance, we fold."
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Notes from week 5
Toledo came from behind 7 points in the 4th quarter to win by 7 for the first time since 1971. (The third year of a 35 game winning streak- still second behind Oklahoma) The Rockets beat BYU (who beat USC) 28-21.
Since 2015, Rutgers has been outscored 204-37 in four games against Michigan. (52-0 yesterday)
Penn State has outscored Maryland 163-6 over the last three years.
The PAC 12’s playoff hopes took another hit. Cal’s loss left the league with no undefeated teams in September since the league expanded to 12 in 2011
Oklahoma and Notre Dame each recorded their 900th all-time victory, tying Nebraska for 6th place.( Michigan and Ohio State are 1-2)
Ryan Day was asked “ how good are the Buckeyes(5-0 after demolishing Nebraska)? “ As Woody always said, if anybody calls you good kick ‘em in the Shins”!
Rick Leach, describing his Washington State team after its second loss (38-13 to Utah yesterday)
“ We're a very soft team,
We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and if we get any resistance, we fold."
Rick Leach?
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Chris Ash rides the tumbril. Maybe Archie Leach will replace him.
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Notes from week 5
Toledo came from behind 7 points in the 4th quarter to win by 7 for the first time since 1971. (The third year of a 35 game winning streak- still second behind Oklahoma) The Rockets beat BYU (who beat USC) 28-21.
Since 2015, Rutgers has been outscored 204-37 in four games against Michigan. (52-0 yesterday)
Penn State has outscored Maryland 163-6 over the last three years.
The PAC 12’s playoff hopes took another hit. Cal’s loss left the league with no undefeated teams in September since the league expanded to 12 in 2011
Oklahoma and Notre Dame each recorded their 900th all-time victory, tying Nebraska for 6th place.( Michigan and Ohio State are 1-2)
Ryan Day was asked “ how good are the Buckeyes(5-0 after demolishing Nebraska)? “ As Woody always said, if anybody calls you good kick ‘em in the Shins”!
Rick Leach, describing his Washington State team after its second loss (38-13 to Utah yesterday)
“ We're a very soft team,
We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and if we get any resistance, we fold."
Rick Leach?
Mike Leach. Bad editing on my part.
But as to Rick. Bo called him the greatest player he ever coached. A four year starter, three Big Ten championships, 3 Rose Bowls, 3-1 against Woody’s Buckeyes. The best of the modern day UM quarterbacks.
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Are we sure ESPN is Red? He just admitted a mistake.
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Notes from week 5
Toledo came from behind 7 points in the 4th quarter to win by 7 for the first time since 1971. (The third year of a 35 game winning streak- still second behind Oklahoma) The Rockets beat BYU (who beat USC) 28-21.
Since 2015, Rutgers has been outscored 204-37 in four games against Michigan. (52-0 yesterday)
Penn State has outscored Maryland 163-6 over the last three years.
The PAC 12’s playoff hopes took another hit. Cal’s loss left the league with no undefeated teams in September since the league expanded to 12 in 2011
Oklahoma and Notre Dame each recorded their 900th all-time victory, tying Nebraska for 6th place.( Michigan and Ohio State are 1-2)
Ryan Day was asked “ how good are the Buckeyes(5-0 after demolishing Nebraska)? “ As Woody always said, if anybody calls you good kick ‘em in the Shins”!
Rick Leach, describing his Washington State team after its second loss (38-13 to Utah yesterday)
“ We're a very soft team,
We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and if we get any resistance, we fold."
Rick Leach?
Mike Leach. Bad editing on my part.
But as to Rick. Bo called him the greatest player he ever coached. A four year starter, three Big Ten championships, 3 Rose Bowls, 3-1 against Woody’s Buckeyes. The best of the modern day UM quarterbacks.
Also an excellent baseball player.
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At best the second best football player on the 1983 Detroit Tigers.
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gutsy call on Tobaacco Rd.
Yes it was. How many #1 votes does Clemson lose to Bama in the next coaches poll? Or the AP for that matter.
Or Georgia gaining some #1 votes too. As ND looks like they are going to polish off a previously undefeated Cavalier team enhancing the Bulldog's win over the Irish.
My guess is Clemson bleeds some voters. I'll guess Bama who had 6 AP votes and 2 Coaches votes ends up with 16 and 10 respectively. That may be a conservative guess.
I would not drop them, but then I favor body of work and try not to get caught up in a "how were they in their most recent game" mindset. What gives me more pause about yesterday - I missed long swaths of the game including the end - is that the year long trend of their offense just not clicking continues. On the other hand, in prior years ClemSIN lost that type of game; Pitt and Syracuse two or three years ago.
So my real question is, given Hurts and Burrows and Fields and Tua, has Jennifer Lawrence played himself out of Heisman contention?
I'd drop them. But just a little.
Lawrence hasn't shown his best stuff so far this year. But I think it's coming.
Some other notes.
Oklahoma's defense. Now I know most people don't think of Washington State as a defensive team. But point of fact the Cougars only gave up 23ppg last year. Their DC slides to Oklahoma in the offseason and the Sooners, whose non-existent defense gave up 32ppg last year, is now sporting an 18ppg defense so far. My my, how the 'Grinch' has stolen other team's offense this year. So far.
It's early and the cupcake factor is there sure. But everyone plays cupcakes early so I think the playing field is fairly level. So that being said, the top four teams in defensive PPG are from the Big Ten. And Michigan State isn't one of them. And Alabama isn't even in the Top 10.
Lastly, to play it safe I could say this after their next three games are in the books. But I'll say it now because I believe it to be true, I think this is the best OSU team on both sides of the rock that I've seen in the last 30+ years. Now, I think I'll puke.
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Notes from week 5
Penn State has outscored Maryland 163-6 over the last three years.
Ryan Day was asked “ how good are the Buckeyes(5-0 after demolishing Nebraska)? “ As Woody always said, if anybody calls you good kick ‘em in the Shins”!
Mike Leach, describing his Washington State team after its second loss (38-13 to Utah yesterday)
“ We're a very soft team,
We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and if we get any resistance, we fold."
Maryland co-captains should've shaken hands instead of their public dis.
I need to stay away from Ryan Day.
Leach is old school. Most people these days don't like that sort of thing. Some would say their being offended by Leach is justified. Others think he's refreshing. Opinions vary.
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Notes from week 5
Toledo came from behind 7 points in the 4th quarter to win by 7 for the first time since 1971. (The third year of a 35 game winning streak- still second behind Oklahoma) The Rockets beat BYU (who beat USC) 28-21.
Since 2015, Rutgers has been outscored 204-37 in four games against Michigan. (52-0 yesterday)
Penn State has outscored Maryland 163-6 over the last three years.
The PAC 12’s playoff hopes took another hit. Cal’s loss left the league with no undefeated teams in September since the league expanded to 12 in 2011
Oklahoma and Notre Dame each recorded their 900th all-time victory, tying Nebraska for 6th place.( Michigan and Ohio State are 1-2)
Ryan Day was asked “ how good are the Buckeyes(5-0 after demolishing Nebraska)? “ As Woody always said, if anybody calls you good kick ‘em in the Shins”!
Rick Leach, describing his Washington State team after its second loss (38-13 to Utah yesterday)
“ We're a very soft team,
We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and if we get any resistance, we fold."
Rick Leach?
There is no taking the Big 10 out of Skippy.
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Notes from week 5
Penn State has outscored Maryland 163-6 over the last three years.
Ryan Day was asked “ how good are the Buckeyes(5-0 after demolishing Nebraska)? “ As Woody always said, if anybody calls you good kick ‘em in the Shins”!
Mike Leach, describing his Washington State team after its second loss (38-13 to Utah yesterday)
“ We're a very soft team,
We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and if we get any resistance, we fold."
Maryland co-captains should've shaken hands instead of their public dis.
I need to stay away from Ryan Day.
Leach is old school. Most people these days don't like that sort of thing. Some would say their being offended by Leach is justified. Others think he's refreshing. Opinions vary.
I don't think Leach wins enough to be viewed as refreshingly old-school.
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Notes from week 5
Penn State has outscored Maryland 163-6 over the last three years.
Ryan Day was asked “ how good are the Buckeyes(5-0 after demolishing Nebraska)? “ As Woody always said, if anybody calls you good kick ‘em in the Shins”!
Mike Leach, describing his Washington State team after its second loss (38-13 to Utah yesterday)
“ We're a very soft team,
We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back, and if we get any resistance, we fold."
Maryland co-captains should've shaken hands instead of their public dis.
I need to stay away from Ryan Day.
Leach is old school. Most people these days don't like that sort of thing. Some would say their being offended by Leach is justified. Others think he's refreshing. Opinions vary.
I don't think Leach wins enough to be viewed as refreshingly old-school.
Meaning? I mean, I didn't know you had to win 80% of your games to be old school. So you must mean something else that isn't registering with me. Sorry for my Monday morning dimness.
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That he doesn't win enough games.
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That he doesn't win enough games.
Does one have to win a set amount of games to be old school?
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I think one has to win a lot of games to get away with the crap that he's pulled over the years.
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gutsy call on Tobaacco Rd.
Yes it was. How many #1 votes does Clemson lose to Bama in the next coaches poll? Or the AP for that matter.
Or Georgia gaining some #1 votes too. As ND looks like they are going to polish off a previously undefeated Cavalier team enhancing the Bulldog's win over the Irish.
My guess is Clemson bleeds some voters. I'll guess Bama who had 6 AP votes and 2 Coaches votes ends up with 16 and 10 respectively. That may be a conservative guess.
I would not drop them, but then I favor body of work and try not to get caught up in a "how were they in their most recent game" mindset. What gives me more pause about yesterday - I missed long swaths of the game including the end - is that the year long trend of their offense just not clicking continues. On the other hand, in prior years ClemSIN lost that type of game; Pitt and Syracuse two or three years ago.
So my real question is, given Hurts and Burrows and Fields and Tua, has Jennifer Lawrence played himself out of Heisman contention?
I'd drop them. But just a little.
Lawrence hasn't shown his best stuff so far this year. But I think it's coming.
Some other notes.
Oklahoma's defense. Now I know most people don't think of Washington State as a defensive team. But point of fact the Cougars only gave up 23ppg last year. Their DC slides to Oklahoma in the offseason and the Sooners, whose non-existent defense gave up 32ppg last year, is now sporting an 18ppg defense so far. My my, how the 'Grinch' has stolen other team's offense this year. So far.
It's early and the cupcake factor is there sure. But everyone plays cupcakes early so I think the playing field is fairly level. So that being said, the top four teams in defensive PPG are from the Big Ten. And Michigan State isn't one of them. And Alabama isn't even in the Top 10.
Lastly, to play it safe I could say this after their next three games are in the books. But I'll say it now because I believe it to be true, I think this is the best OSU team on both sides of the rock that I've seen in the last 30+ years. Now, I think I'll puke.
My assumption is Lawrence will shake out of it by the time it matters.
I don't thin Leach is old school. I think he is an asshole who will throw his players under the bus. Or lock them in a closet.
I assume the 31 IU put up on us took us out of the ppg.
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I think one has to win a lot of games to get away with the crap that he's pulled over the years.
We'd just get in a needless argument if I pursue this.
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gutsy call on Tobaacco Rd.
Yes it was. How many #1 votes does Clemson lose to Bama in the next coaches poll? Or the AP for that matter.
Or Georgia gaining some #1 votes too. As ND looks like they are going to polish off a previously undefeated Cavalier team enhancing the Bulldog's win over the Irish.
My guess is Clemson bleeds some voters. I'll guess Bama who had 6 AP votes and 2 Coaches votes ends up with 16 and 10 respectively. That may be a conservative guess.
I would not drop them, but then I favor body of work and try not to get caught up in a "how were they in their most recent game" mindset. What gives me more pause about yesterday - I missed long swaths of the game including the end - is that the year long trend of their offense just not clicking continues. On the other hand, in prior years ClemSIN lost that type of game; Pitt and Syracuse two or three years ago.
So my real question is, given Hurts and Burrows and Fields and Tua, has Jennifer Lawrence played himself out of Heisman contention?
I'd drop them. But just a little.
Lawrence hasn't shown his best stuff so far this year. But I think it's coming.
Some other notes.
Oklahoma's defense. Now I know most people don't think of Washington State as a defensive team. But point of fact the Cougars only gave up 23ppg last year. Their DC slides to Oklahoma in the offseason and the Sooners, whose non-existent defense gave up 32ppg last year, is now sporting an 18ppg defense so far. My my, how the 'Grinch' has stolen other team's offense this year. So far.
It's early and the cupcake factor is there sure. But everyone plays cupcakes early so I think the playing field is fairly level. So that being said, the top four teams in defensive PPG are from the Big Ten. And Michigan State isn't one of them. And Alabama isn't even in the Top 10.
Lastly, to play it safe I could say this after their next three games are in the books. But I'll say it now because I believe it to be true, I think this is the best OSU team on both sides of the rock that I've seen in the last 30+ years. Now, I think I'll puke.
My assumption is Lawrence will shake out of it by the time it matters.
I don't thin Leach is old school. I think he is an asshole who will throw his players under the bus. Or lock them in a closet.
I assume the 31 IU put up on us took us out of the ppg.
Agreed.
Nope.
Yep, but still Top 15. The Sparties have a very good defense IMO.
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Michigan State 42, THE 3
(Consider the possibility that I have the final score the exact reverse of what I fear it will be. But damn the THE! Full speed ahead with reflexive optimism!) I think our offense turned the corner; we have moved the ball reasonably well for four weeks now – and unlike the ASU game, have gotten points for it. Eventual 2019 Heisman Trophy Winner Brian Lewerke is developing rhythm and rapport with his receivers. Our defense may have given up more points against IU than they should have, but it is not like they face an offensive powerhouse like IU every week! (I am taking a mini vacation this weekend and will not see the game. If I can avoid looking up the final score, and ignore any articles or comments about the game, the possibility that this prediction will be right and my beloved Spartans will win remains. This is basically why I am a millionaire many times over playing the lottery: as long as you do not check the results, you are not a loser. In this context, call it Schrodinger’s Box Score.)
Methchicken 17, Iowa 13
Everyone blows out Rutgers. You are supposed to blow out Rutgers. I still have questions about Methchicken’s offense – only 3.4 per rush against Rutgers, with what should be a huge gap in line talent - but respect the defense, at least against an Iowa team that does not have a Taylor level talent on offense.
Auburn 31, Florida 14
The third of the three games matching ranked teams. I have said this sort of thing before: the difference between Auburn and Florida is that Auburn has not lost, and Florida has not lost yet. The lower half of God’s Conference are not what they used to be, but Auburn’s waxing of Old Missississippi State last week was pretty impressive.
Maryland 42, Rutgers 3
Speaking of the lower half of conferences…. We got this turkey a month and a half early. But then, I am not sure this is even the worst conference game out there; the Beavers take on the Bruins, Vandy plays Old Mississippi, and the South Atlantic League’s only non sucking team is not playing Saturday. yankguy may have been on the nose about the Terps. On the other hand, everyone blows out Rutgers. You are supposed to blow out Rutgers. I do not know why anyone with ambition would take that job.
Minnesota 27, Illinois 24
The Gophers are technically unbeaten. The Illini technically lost to EMU. Which is why, although the Gophers have not beaten anyone, including an FCS school, by more than 7, they get to be unbeaten for another week.
Oregon 31, University of California* 13
The PAWCP is not dead yet, playoff wise. Oregon or Washington running the table still sets them up it either the Big Whatever or Pure Prairie League has a two loss champion. I suppose there is also the possibility that THE will have one of those horrific inexplicable losses, and Oregon’s loss to Auburn will seem “better”. Anyway, I have seen Herbert play a couple of times now and remain unimpressed about his actual production. Cal has a decent defense but does not really excel anywhere.
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Washington 21, Stanford 13
Well, Stanford still strikes me as having a capable defense, even if its offense is perfectly capable of not scoring at any given time.
the Pennsylvania State University 35, the Purdue 14
Arguably Brohm should have cashed in his chips last year and left the table. Two straight 6 and 6 regular seasons and two straight bowl games seems to be Purdue’s ceiling anymore.
Oklahoma 52, Kansas 10
Hey! Kansas has two wins! They should be pretty satisfied with that. As for Oklahoma, has any team had three consecutive Heisman Trophy winners with three different players all playing the same position? Hurst is looking like the man to date. Either Lincoln Riley is a pretty good coach for QBs, or his system is a pretty good system for QBs. Or both.
Georgia 41, Tennessee 10
I admit to a morbid fascination with the Jeremy Pruitt deathwatch. Hey, Tennessee! Better snap up Schiano before Rutgers gets to him!
Texas Christian University 31, Iowa State 13
ISU was kind of a sexy dark horse pick for the Pure Prairie League before they actually started to play the games. They have been bad three of the four games – the good one was a romp against Louisiana Monroe. TCU is solid.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 41, Bowling Alley 3
Can a one loss OLotPT make the playoffs without playing that extra championship game? I think that they would need at least two of the Power Five conferences to have a two loss champ, and probably either Alabama or Georgia to lose twice: I think the pecking order is roughly: Unbeatens, One loss Conference Champions, One loss SEC runner up, One loss Notre Dame - or THE or Oklahoma if their one loss is the Conference Championship game. Which I speculate about because this game looks to be boring as hell.
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https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2019/09/30/michigan-state-football-connor-heyward-transfer-portal/3823773002/
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Have I mentioned lately that I think the transfer portal reminds me of another exit portal?
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https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2019/09/30/michigan-state-football-connor-heyward-transfer-portal/3823773002/
Good luck to him. Kids should be allowed the flexibility to find the best situation for their futures.
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Bah Humbug.
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Row slave, row!
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Michigan State 42, THE 3
(Consider the possibility that I have the final score the exact reverse of what I fear it will be. But damn the THE! Full speed ahead with reflexive optimism!) I think our offense turned the corner; we have moved the ball reasonably well for four weeks now – and unlike the ASU game, have gotten points for it. Eventual 2019 Heisman Trophy Winner Brian Lewerke is developing rhythm and rapport with his receivers. Our defense may have given up more points against IU than they should have, but it is not like they face an offensive powerhouse like IU every week!
If MSU has a former quarterback turned beastly linebacker like North Carolina’s Chase Surratt,
who made Clemson’s Lawrence look pretty ordinary Saturday this game could be fun.
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Michigan State 42, THE 3
(Consider the possibility that I have the final score the exact reverse of what I fear it will be. But damn the THE! Full speed ahead with reflexive optimism!) I think our offense turned the corner; we have moved the ball reasonably well for four weeks now – and unlike the ASU game, have gotten points for it. Eventual 2019 Heisman Trophy Winner Brian Lewerke is developing rhythm and rapport with his receivers. Our defense may have given up more points against IU than they should have, but it is not like they face an offensive powerhouse like IU every week!
If MSU has a former quarterback turned beastly linebacker like North Carolina’s Chase Surratt,
who made Clemson’s Lawrence look pretty ordinary Saturday this game could be fun.
Well, we have Bachie.
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Row slave, row!
Pamper entitled brats, pamper.
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Four glaring reasons to ignore College Football Recruiting Class Rankings:
4. Carson Wentz
3. Josh Allen
2. Baker Mayfield
1. Daniel Jones
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Four glaring reasons to ignore College Football Recruiting Class Rankings:
4. Carson Wentz
3. Josh Allen
2. Baker Mayfield
1. Daniel Jones
That's more of an individual ranking than a class ranking.
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"I really don't have a thought on [Chase Young] from a human standpoint."
My favorite MSU coach quote since Johnelle Smith.
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SEC Guru Paul Finebaum on Clemson being overrated.
https://es.pn/2ni7HHL
(https://es.pn/2ni7HHL)
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That's what's known as a hot take.
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The N(Name) I(Image)L(Likeness)
Law in California:
a Nothingburger.
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The N(Name) I(Image)L(Likeness)
Law in California:
a Nothingburger.
Things that aren't Nothingburgers usually started out as Nothingburgers.
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The N(Name) I(Image)L(Likeness)
Law in California:
a Nothingburger.
Things that aren't Nothingburgers usually started out as Nothingburgers.
We can check back in. 2023.
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or until other states start proposing/passing like nothingburger legislation
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Clemson fans have to be rooting for Wake Forest to remain unbeaten. The Tigers don’t have a ranked opponent on their schedule unless the number 22 Deacons remain in the top 25 when they meet in mid-November.
Since the beginning of the BCS era no team has won the championship without playing a ranked team in October or November.
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Top 25 tonight
(5-13, 43-52)
UCF -3.5 at Cincinnati
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Top 25 Saturday
Ok State -10 @ Texas Tech
Wisconsin -35 vs Kent St
Michigan -3.5 vs Iowa
LSU -27.5 vs Utah St
Oklahoma -32 @ Kansas
Penn St -28.5 vs Purdue
Texas -10.5 @ West Virginia
Notre Dame -45.5 vs Bowling Green
Auburn -2.5 @ Florida
Georgia -24.5 @ Tennessee
SMU -13 vs Tulsa
Ohio St -20 vs Mich St
Oregon -18 vs Cal
Boise St -22 @ UNLV
Washington -16 @ Stanford
picks to come
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Clemson fans have to be rooting for Wake Forest to remain unbeaten. The Tigers don’t have a ranked opponent on their schedule unless the number 22 Deacons remain in the top 25 when they meet in mid-November.
Since the beginning of the BCS era no team has won the championship without playing a ranked team in October or November.
IMO if Clemson runs that table if there are only four undefeated teams they get in. But it's a little early to be thinking about that.
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Michigan State 13, THE 33
This is The's real first test. They'll pass this test proving the validity of my misgivings about them.
Methchicken 17, Iowa 23
So far Michigan is waaaay worse than I thought they'd be.
Auburn 30, Florida 34
Gatuhs gon win this game.
Maryland 42, Rutgers 23
Poor(relative term) Rutgers(More like football fans), duped into believing they were capable of being a Power Five school. Well, the money's good.
Minnesota 27, Illinois 24
Why do I care?
Oregon 31, California 18
I'll go with the Ducks overall team speed being superior to Cals. Shit happens though.
Washington 41, Stanford 20
I've really soured on thinking the Cardinal will win another game this year.
Penn State 49, the Purdue 16
Barring a total subpar game State should win by four TDs.
Oklahoma 68, Kansas 3
I got nothin. We used to cut off 50 chickens heads every late summer and the pluckfest began. I still remember the smell. Kansas will smell worse.
Georgia 41, Tennessee 10
I'm at a loss as to why Tennessee's defense sucks so much. Steve seems to think it's the coaching, I tend to think it's the players.
Texas Christian University 23 Iowa State 25
Because I needed an upset pick and I'm not sold on TCU yet. The again I could be wrong and SMU is the Cinderella team this year.
ND 41, Bowling Alley 19(Funny stuff)
Will the Irish take this game for granted a bit and mail some of the game in?
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Top 25 Saturday
Ok State -10 @ Texas Tech
Wisconsin -35 vs Kent St
Michigan -3.5 vs Iowa
LSU -27.5 vs Utah St
Oklahoma -32 @ Kansas
Penn St -28.5 vs Purdue
Texas -10.5 @ West Virginia
Notre Dame -45.5 vs Bowling Green
Auburn -2.5 @ Florida
Georgia -24.5 @ Tennessee
SMU -13 vs Tulsa
Ohio St -20 vs Mich St
Oregon -18 vs Cal
Boise St -22 @ UNLV
Washington -16 @ Stanford
picks to come
Okie St, Wisconsin, Iowa, Utah St, Oklahoma, Penn St, West Va, Bowling Green, Florida, Georgia, SMU, OSU, Oregon, Boise, Washington.
Did these in 2 minutes.
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And Cincy.
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Top 25 Saturday
Ok State -10 @ Texas Tech
Wisconsin -35 vs Kent St
Michigan -3.5 vs Iowa L
LSU -27.5 vs Utah St
Oklahoma -32 @ Kansas L
Penn St -28.5 vs Purdue L
Texas -10.5 @ West Virginia
Notre Dame -45.5 vs Bowling Green
Auburn -2.5 @ Florida
Georgia -24.5 @ Tennessee
SMU -13 vs Tulsa
Ohio St -20 vs Mich St
Oregon -18 vs Cal
Boise St -22 @ UNLV
Washington -16 @ Stanford
picks in BOLD
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Okie St, Wisconsin, Iowa, Utah St, Oklahoma, Penn St, West Va, Bowling Green, Florida, Georgia, SMU, OSU, Oregon, Boise, Washington.
Did these in 2 minutes.
Attaboy.
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The game of the Day? Auburn.
Get used to it.
Today it is Auburn @ Florida
Oct 26 it is Auburn @ LSU
Nov 16 it is Georgia @ Auburn
Nov 30 it is ‘Bama @ Auburn
Not only does Auburn control its own playoff destiny it figures to also have a hand in deciding a second spot in the playoffs.
The Tigers are the only SEC team to play ALL the other SEC playoff contenders.
Georgia does not face LSU or Alabama,
Alabama has no game with Florida.
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Okie St, Wisconsin, Iowa, Utah St, Oklahoma, Penn St, West Va, Bowling Green, Florida, Georgia, SMU, OSU, Oregon, Boise, Washington.
Did these in 2 minutes.
Attaboy.
LOL
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How bout dem Gatuhs!
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Kicker chokes.
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Two magnificent defenses. Great game so far.
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Top 25 Saturday
Ok State -10 @ Texas Tech W
Wisconsin -35 vs Kent St W
Michigan -3.5 vs Iowa L
LSU -27.5 vs Utah St W
Oklahoma -32 @ Kansas L
Penn St -28.5 vs Purdue L
Texas -10.5 @ West Virginia L
Notre Dame -45.5 vs Bowling Green L
Auburn -2.5 @ Florida L
Georgia -24.5 @ Tennessee W
SMU -13 vs Tulsa W
Ohio St -20 vs Mich St W
Oregon -18 vs Cal L
Boise St -22 @ UNLV L
Washington -16 @ Stanford L
picks in BOLD
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Fields you magnificent bastard.
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10-2 Straight up this week, an ugly 5-11 vs the Spread on Kid's Top 25. .
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might be time to consider taking the underdog for any spread over 10 points in the Pac 12
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might be time to consider taking the underdog for any spread over 10 points in the Pac 12
The Pac has been really hard to get a handle on this year Scotty. I'm going to have to go back to the drawing board.
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Week 6
SMU lost Bowl eligibility last year after being upset by 2-9 Tulsa in the last game of the season.
Yesterday the Mustangs exacted revenge beating Tulsa in 3 overtimes to remain undefeated and clinch Bowl eligility at 6-0.
Ohio State (6-0)became the first power five team to clinch a Bowl after beating MSU.
The B1G and the SEC each have 4 undefeated teams and are dominating the playoff talk for now.
Oklahoma (5) faces Texas this week, a game that could be precursor to the Big12 Championship game.
Notre Dame (10) can stay in the hunt by winning out starting with USC this week in South Bend.
For the ACC the playoff talk is still limited to Clemson.
Only the Pac12 has no undefeated teams.
Oklahoma now has the second-longest road winning streak in major college football since the end of World War II, at 22 games. The 1953-58 Sooner teams won 25 straight.
Tulsa scored 2TDs in the span of one second( on the game clock) against SMU. The second was a recovered kickoff following the previous TD.
Four of Maryland’s TDS against Rutgers came on ONE PLAY drives( an 80-yard touchdown pass, a 42-yard run, a two-yard run and an 80-yard run) The Terps also had a 100-yard kickoff return.
Wisconsin running back Jonathan Taylor has scored a rushing touchdown on every opening drive this season.
Miami won its first 10 games two seasons ago. Since then the Hurricanes are 4-12 against power five teams.
UCF failed to score 30 points in a game for the first time since 2016, ending the 31-game FBS-record streak in the AP poll era (since 1936).
Oklahoma now has the longest 30 point or more streak at 15.
Big games on Saturday:
Red River Rivalry in Dallas- Undefeated Oklahoma vs one loss Texas.
Florida vs LSU in Death Valley
Alabama at Texas A and M
Penn State at Iowa
Wisconsin at Michigan State
Southern Cal at Notre Dame.
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10-2 Straight up this week, an ugly 5-11 vs the Spread on Kid's Top 25. .
My 6-10 held up?
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SMU lost Bowl eligibility last year after being upset by 2-9 Tulsa in the last game of the season.
Yesterday the Mustangs exacted revenge beating Tulsa in 3 overtimes to remain undefeated and clinch Bowl eligility at 6-0.
It probably would not have gone to overtime if the SMU kick returner hadn't stood there looking at a live football like it was a punt. I doubt he will be returning any kicks soon.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1180644765047623681 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1180644765047623681)
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10-2 Straight up this week, an ugly 5-11 vs the Spread on Kid's Top 25. .
My 6-10 held up?
kicked my tail bro. ;-)
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As expected THE picked up a handful or so of first place votes in the AP after putting away the Spartans Saturday.
As impressed as I was and still am by the Buckeyed defense I am also impressed by their OL too. This is a powerful group of men as well as agile.
One small chink in OSU's offensive armor, and it is nitpicking, Fields may have some limitations when it comes to forcing the deep ball. Still overall the Buckeyes are continuing to impress the shit out of me.
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Nice touch on Monday night from Nick Bosa.
Baker Mayfield commented that it was a long time for Bosa to hold a grudge.
Which, of course, was exactly Mayfield did to start the whole controversy.
Too bad the sanguine NFL doesn’t have more Mayfield/Bosa moments.
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I think I picked a good time for a long weekend with no sports.
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Nice touch on Monday night from Nick Bosa.
Baker Mayfield commented that it was a long time for Bosa to hold a grudge.
I missed whatever this was about, but until you hold a grudge for at least 53 years, you got nothin'.
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EVENTUAL 2019-2020 National Champion Michigan State 17, Wisconsin 10
Unlike THE, Wisconsin’s offense is very run heavy, with little threat from the passing game. It is pretty much strength versus strength when Wisky has the ball, and I think we can use the lack of the passing game to load up the front and keep Taylor in relative check. We still have to score, of course. It would help to not fumble on our first two possessions, which is precisely how far I got in watching the game on Saturday.
Alabama 45, Texas A&M 10
I am glad that Alabama is finally playing somebody, but I am surprised that TAMU is still considered “somebody”. Granted they lost to two pretty good teams, but last I saw they were getting threatened by Arfuckingkansas. I am not sure why they are ranked, but I do not expect much of a game.
Oklahoma 42, Texas 38
I am thinking about transferring to Oklahoma to play QB next year. I would love a Heisman.
Methchicken 21, Illinois 0
No faith in the Methchicken offensives, but the defense is legitimate. That’s seven field goals, by the way. Illinois is bad.
ClemSIN 42, the Florida State University 13
They had their hiccup. I expect ClemSIN to run the table with relative ease from here on out, and for Jennifer Lawrence to live closer to up to the preseason hype.
Our Lady if the Perpetual Tie 28, University of California* 10
It hurts at least one of us to point this out, but the Pete Carroll years stand out as an exception to the post-John Robinson Mark I Years of Meh at SC. They may not be the elite program we continue to think of them as. It should be a great situation, maybe the right coach, oh, someone whose name rhymes with Murban Eyer….
* Southern
the Pennsylvania State University 24, Iowa 13
I am wobbling like a weeble on whether PSU is a legitimate challenger to THE in the Big Whatever East, but their defense looks like it has the potential. Not sure that they have enough offensive tools. It will be interesting to watch them against Iowa’s good defense.
the Louisiana State University 35, Florida 17
Well, this may be the week we learn if Burrows is for real, or just a beneficiary of his level of competition. I guess Florida is for real after all, but I think the LSU manages them.
Colorado 27, Oregon 17
Just spent five days in Colorado. Something like that HAS to rub off. As an irrelevant aside, my dog the music critic pissed on the John Denver Sanctuary (cool park, by the way) sign in Aspen. Haven’t been this proud of him since he similarly relieved himself on the Jefferson Davis Memorial Highway marker in Texas. I have zero tolerance for Lost Cause Revisioninsm. Also unrelatedly, took Benji out for a late night poop in Durango only to see a gigantic (or so it seemed) vicious (or so it seemed) black bear sitting in front of the door six rooms down. Note I did not say who was doing the late night poop.
Purdue 27, Maryland 17
There are teams that start the season well “right the ship” when winning after a two game losing streak. Maryland played Rutgers.
Minnesota 27, Nebraska 24
Minnesota still has not lost yet. Nebraska has not impressed yet.
Baylor 27, Texas Tech 24
Swap “Baylor” and “Texas Tech” for “Minnesota” and “Nebraska” above.
the Boise State University 35, Hawai’I 10
Have we found our Group of Five representative? At USU may be the toughest game left.
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... until you hold a grudge for at least 53 years, you got nothin'.
This made me smile
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I have zero tolerance for Lost Cause Revisioninsm.
What is John Denver trying to revise?
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I have zero tolerance for Lost Cause Revisioninsm.
What is John Denver trying to revise?
His flight plan.
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Nice touch on Monday night from Nick Bosa.
Baker Mayfield commented that it was a long time for Bosa to hold a grudge.
I missed whatever this was about, but until you hold a grudge for at least 53 years, you got nothin'.
I think it was the planting of the flag. LOL
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TOP 25 slate for WEEK 7
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Picks (vs spread) to come
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TOP 25 slate for WEEK 7
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Picks (vs spread) to come
(49-62)
FRIDAY 10/11
(20)VIRGINIA +2.5 at Miami
(13)OREGON -21.5 vs Colorado
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https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2019/10/10/ncaa-vacates-umhb-football-s-2016-national-championship?ref=article_preview_img
You wanna beat the Mount you gotta cheat.
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Michigan State 19, Wisconsin 30
Unlike THE, Wisconsin’s offense is very run heavy, with little threat from the passing game. Still, the Badgers are very good at it. I'm still waiting for the Spartan offense to be very good at anything.
Alabama 45, Texas A&M 17
Bama's defense is sporting what? 4 true freshmen now? Even for THE Tide that's hard to do and still be elite.
Oklahoma 42, Texas 38
I'll go with Steve's score on this and the outcome. This may be the game where Hurts rips off some big gainers. The game changing kind that is.
Michigan 241, Illinois 0
No faith in the Methchicken offensives, but the defense is legitimate. That’s seven field goals, by the way. You could have just said the last part Stevo, Illinois is bad.
Clemson 25, the Florida State University 27
Upset.
Notre Dame 30, USC 26
Urban Meyer will never coach again. Of course I said that about Art Briles. ND is a very good team. Maybe the best one loss team in the nation. Although that will change after Saturday.
Penn State 29, Iowa 17
The Lions are sloooowly getting better.
LSU 29, Florida 31
Burrows is for real, he'll get drafted in the first round. All indications point to the Tigers winning this game. So I'll pick the Gators anyways. On thing is for sure the loser gets to supplant Notre Dame as the best one loss team in the nation. Assuming Oklahoma wins.
Colorado 26, Oregon 30
Oregon should be winning better than they are. But they aren't. WTF?
Purdue 27, Maryland 17
I said it last week, who cares?
Minnesota 27, Nebraska 24
See above.
Baylor 27, Texas Tech 24
Swap “Baylor” and “Texas Tech” for “Minnesota” and “Nebraska” above. Better yet swap them for a copy Herbie Mann Battle Hymn of the Republic and you'd still be making out.
Boise State 35, Hawaii 27
Boise is still one of the best non-power five programs out there.
Georgia 32, South Carolina 17:
The Cocks have a decent defense maybe they'll hang for awhile.
Arizona St 33, Wash St 34
It will be interesting how Leach's method of tough love works.
Wake Forest 29, Louisville 27
Wake Forest, remember Purpledad? The Deacs are undefeated and at home. Go Deacs!
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https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2019/10/10/ncaa-vacates-umhb-football-s-2016-national-championship?ref=article_preview_img
You wanna beat the Mount you gotta cheat.
I guess the NCAA realizes it is going to have to flex its muscles at a much lower level since it is about to lose its grip entirely on FBS teams.
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Notre Dame 30, USC 26
Closer than the "experts" think, eh?
man...anything could happen, but I have ND 35 - USC 21
(went back and looked at my calcs--that first pick was my memory of my UW score pick. This one is probably worse)
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https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2019/10/10/ncaa-vacates-umhb-football-s-2016-national-championship?ref=article_preview_img
You wanna beat the Mount you gotta cheat.
I guess the NCAA realizes it is going to have to flex its muscles at a much lower level since it is about to lose its grip entirely on FBS teams.
Listen, the temporary use of a 12 year old Subaru is the type of inducement that would lure anyone. Got to stomp on behavior like that.
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Georgia 38, South Carolina 10
Don't see it as close, because I do not see the Cacks putting up .ore than two scores.
the Arizona State 35, the Washington State 28
Home field, I guess, but our weather is pretty pleasant this time of year.
Awake For Rest 24, Louisville 13
Forgot the Purple was unbeaten and in first place in the South Atlantic League's Kind of Actually Near the Atlantic Division. For now. Louisville went bad quicker than a banana in the sunshine.
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Oregon should be winning better than they are. But they aren't. WTF?
The answer.to the WTF is a point I have been making all year: despite the hype and pro measurements Justin Hebert is just not a particularly productive quarterback.
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Georgia 32, South Carolina 17:
The Cocks have a decent defense maybe they'll hang for awhile.
That decent defense just got a pick six. Cocks hanging.
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They will find a way to choke.
The Curse is real.
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Curse just ACL’d their backup.
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Maybe so, but it's been a great game to watch so far!
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TOP 25 slate for WEEK 7
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Picks (vs spread) to come
Missed quite a few.....
(50-63)
Arizona State +1 vs Washington St
Alabama -17 at Texas A and M
Wisconsin -9.5 vs Michigan State
Houston +8.5 vs Cincinnati
Clemson -26.5 vs Florida St
Texas Tech +10.5 at Baylor
Iowa +3.5 vs Penn State
Wake Forest -7 vs Louisville
USC +10.5 vs Notre Dame
Utah -15 at Oregon State
Florida +14 at LSU
Boise State -13 vs Hawaii
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Georgia being tested
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always amazes me that people don't seem to remember that you can't take a sack or a turnover in overtime.
just...can't...do that
But then...the slightly lesser golden rule is keep going for the first down -- don't pull up and just assume you are going to make the field goal.
I don't know that either of these teams deserves to win at this point
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Georgia will not be #3 tomorrow
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Georgia just Clemsoned.
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Over on the left coast, we would say...
They Couged it
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Georgia will not be #3 tomorrow
I don’t think Georgia would have been number 3 even by surviving in what was a bad game for the Bulldogs.
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Aggies with 14 play drive to smack Bama in the mouth.
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That never happens.
The transverse property has Heels beating Cocks beating Dogs.
Don’t feel as bad about our surviving in Chapel Hill.
My reliable source who played the game quipped about our struggle there: “It’s all about adrenaline...”
The great equalizer.
But Cocks doing that on the road is impressive with a 3rd stringer to boot.
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“Clemsoning,” as much as I dislike it, should be added to the OED.
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; 2. The act of collosal failure by any favourite by a failure of discipline or coaching, particularly in the manner of Thomas Bowden...
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and Bama takes the hit and lands a 1, 2
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Wait, transitive??
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That never happens.
The transverse property has Heels beating Cocks beating Dogs.
Don’t feel as bad about our surviving in Chapel Hill.
My reliable source who played the game quipped about our struggle there: “It’s all about adrenaline...”
The great equalizer.
But Cocks doing that on the road is impressive with a 3rd stringer to boot.
SC's defense was the star IMO.
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7-6 at halftime. Not a bad game if you don't include the Iowa guy trying to blind our QB.
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That never happens.
The transverse property has Heels beating Cocks beating Dogs.
Don’t feel as bad about our surviving in Chapel Hill.
My reliable source who played the game quipped about our struggle there: “It’s all about adrenaline...”
The great equalizer.
But Cocks doing that on the road is impressive with a 3rd stringer to boot.
SC's defense was the star IMO.
LOL.
Georgia piled up 500 yards of offense, the Cocks 297.
The Bulldogs self destructed, Fromm was mediocre and Kirby was smart(less).
Georgia has a lot of big games left ( LSU, Florida, Auburn.) But this loss is an embarrassment which the Committee will penalize Georgia for and rightly so.
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Well, I learned my lesson. I will not be picking MSU to win this Saturday, that's for sure.
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Notre Dame 30, USC 26
Dang...
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What came first the Irish Referee or the Legend of Notre Dame, you have to blow them out, it’s the only and final solution.
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Notes from Saturday
Every Purdue touchdown in a 40-14 win against Maryland involved a freshman.
Since taking a 49-17 lead against UCLA, Washington State has been outscored 126-61 and hasn’t won a game.(3-3 including a loss to UCLA)
Undefeated Minnesota has won eight consecutive games for the first time since 1948-49(6-0 and ranked #20)
Wisconsin is the first FBS team since 1967 Oklahoma to have four shutouts in its first six game
Of the 62 first place votes in the AP poll 30 went to Alabama, 32 were split between LSU, tOSU, and Clemson (the Coaches’ 1st place votes were 44-21 Alabama)
7 of the top ten teams ( both polls) are from the SEC and the B1G
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TOP 25 slate for WEEK 7
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Picks (vs spread) to come
Missed quite a few.....
(50-63)
Arizona State +1 vs Washington St W
Alabama -17 at Texas A and M W
Wisconsin -9.5 vs Michigan State W
Houston +8.5 vs Cincinnati L
Clemson -26.5 vs Florida St W
Texas Tech +10.5 at Baylor W
Iowa +3.5 vs Penn State L
Wake Forest -7 vs Louisville L
USC +10.5 vs Notre Dame W
Utah -15 at Oregon State W
Florida +14 at LSU push
Boise State -13 vs Hawaii W
8-3 slate
9-4 week
58-66 season
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That never happens.
The transverse property has Heels beating Cocks beating Dogs.
Don’t feel as bad about our surviving in Chapel Hill.
My reliable source who played the game quipped about our struggle there: “It’s all about adrenaline...”
The great equalizer.
But Cocks doing that on the road is impressive with a 3rd stringer to boot.
SC's defense was the star IMO.
LOL.
Georgia piled up 500 yards of offense, the Cocks 297.
The Bulldogs self destructed, Fromm was mediocre and Kirby was smart(less).
Georgia has a lot of big games left ( LSU, Florida, Auburn.) But this loss is an embarrassment which the Committee will penalize Georgia for and rightly so.
They made the plays when they needed to, ball watcher.
Georgia didn't have a run over 14 yards and only 2 over 10 yards, and if you've been paying attention Georgia is known for their big play running. It's their bread and butter. SC picked off Georgia 3 times, stopped the Dawgs on a critical 4th down play and recovered a fumble by Fromm. Fromm went 28 for 51 through the air, setting career highs for pass attempts and incompletions. They had Fromm all nervous and jerky throughout the game.They also held the Dawgs to only a 50% success rate on 3rd down tries.
Mistakes? Georgia only had 6 penalties to SC's 11. And don't count the interceptions as only Georgia mistakes. The DB's still have to catch that ball or it's just an incompletion. And lastly SC's weak offense meant the Cock's defense had to be on the field for 36 minutes of the game. The end result is they hold the Dawgs to 17 points or about three TDs below their average. Yeah, defense Skippy. Defense.
Stick to playing with yourself, something you're good at.
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Well, I learned my lesson. I will not be picking MSU to win this Saturday, that's for sure.
Funny.
I gotta tell you I had expected the Sparties to have a bit better O than they've shown so far Steve. A little speed to the outside running the rock would help I think.
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TOP 25 slate for WEEK 7
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Picks (vs spread) to come
Missed quite a few.....
(50-63)
Arizona State +1 vs Washington St W
Alabama -17 at Texas A and M W
Wisconsin -9.5 vs Michigan State W
Houston +8.5 vs Cincinnati L
Clemson -26.5 vs Florida St W
Texas Tech +10.5 at Baylor W
Iowa +3.5 vs Penn State L
Wake Forest -7 vs Louisville L
USC +10.5 vs Notre Dame W
Utah -15 at Oregon State W
Florida +14 at LSU push
Boise State -13 vs Hawaii W
8-3 slate
9-4 week
58-66 season
Really good stuff Bro. Sorry I didn't have time to get them in before game time. You'll have to get them up a little faster on Friday.
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THE 42, Northwestern 3
NU has a stout defense, but it is not as good as Former Eventual National Champion Michigan State’s. They have a bad offense, one that is even worse than Former Eventual National Champion Michigan State’s. The is rolling, and outside of Wisky and maybe the Pennsylvania State University, it is hard to see a team on their schedule that will get in their way. This may be the best The team I have seen since Troy Smith’s senior season (note: did not end well), but then the last two years The lost to Iowa and Purdue, so there is the chance of a fatal lapse.
Florida 31, South Carolina 10
All right, time to believe in Florida. The Cacks shot their wad last weekend. Hilinski is back, which is nice – there is no one in CFB outside of East Lansing I want better for – but while the Cacks ran against a Clemsoning Georgia, I expect Florida to have taken notice.
ClemSIN 52, Louisville 31
I do not think Louisville is any damn good, but they sure seem to be entertaining, in an are you sure they are not coached by Mike Leach sort of way. They can put up some points on the SIN, but I doubt they can stop ClemSIN from scoring at will.
Wisconsin 49, Illinois 10
At this point, I am trying to cover all of the power 5 unbeatens, which is the only reason to waste brain cells calculating how big a margin of victory this is going to be. One thing CFB 2019 has proven beyond any reasonable doubt: Wisky is better than any college team in the State of Michigan by a pretty large margin.
the Louisiana State 47, the Old Missississippi State 17
Burrows passed his test. This is a high powered, quick strike offense backed by a good but not great defense. Cannot wait to see them against Alabama. God’s Conference has maybe five or six of the top 15 teams in the country… and a bunch of meh and dreck. LSU is one of the Top 4 teams right now. State is meh.
Minnesota 35, Rutgers 3
While there is better depth in the Big Whatever than in God’s Conference, Rutgers is at a MAC level of badness. Minnesota is going to be 7 – 0, and they are not good.
Oregon 32, Washington 17
Oregon’s the PAWCP’s last best chance to make the playoffs, but they need to run the table. I still have my doubts about Herbert’s ability to actually function well in an offense, as opposed to function brilliantly in workouts, but he looked good against the Buffs last week. Maybe he is going to start matching result and talent.
University of California* 28, Arizona 14
Zona still have a RichRod style quarterback, and I do not think it serves them well. I wonder how long before they move on to Gunnell permanently.
* Southern
Utah 28, the Arizona State 24
The Fightin’ Herms have been better than reports I had made them out to be, but I think the Utes are a better balanced, better rounded team.
the Pennsylvania State 27, Methchicken 9
Methchicken allowed a pretty spirited Illini come back last week, but I still like their defense. PSU’s defense seems a little better, and their offense can function at a higher level than Methchicken’s. I don’t think either team will be more than a speed bump to what may be the best The team I have seen since etc, but PSU does have the chance to be.
the Boise State 35, BYU 23
the Boise State is the best of the Gang of 5 teams, I think. BYU beat SC on its third string QB, but have not looked good the other two games they played against quality competition.
Alabama 50, Tennessee 3
When is the last time a former assistant beat Nick Saban? I do not know (Just looked it up: Never.), but I know when the next time won’t be.
the Oklahoma State 35, Baylor 21
I think I have covered the major unbeatens… I am glad Baylor is rising from the ashes of the Briles era. They still have a ways to go though.
Maryland 27, Indiana 26
I always try to cover the alma maters/favorite teams of our forum regulars. Sometimes doing so is a real fucking chore.
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That's nice of you, Whiskey. And Terps might have a shot. Not sure why this wasn't scheduled as their homecoming game rather than the Michigan game on 11/2.
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That's nice of you, Whiskey. And Terps might have a shot. Not sure why this wasn't scheduled as their homecoming game rather than the Michigan game on 11/2.
Who wants to see Indiana? Got to do something to draw alums.
Who will you be rooting for in that game?
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Probably Maryland. Though I do recognize I've spent far more for three semesters of a Michigan education than I did for eight semesters of a Maryland one.
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A Maryland win would make for a fun Thanksgiving dinner.
Cannot believe I left out:
Oklahoma 47, West Virginia 17
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21-game slate (top 25)
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
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For FRIDAY
Ohio State -28 at Northwestern
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You spend an awful lot of time posting on gambling for somebody who "rarely" gambles.
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You spend an awful lot of time posting on gambling for somebody who "rarely" gambles.
(https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2015/08/15/19/17/dog-889991__340.jpg)
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heh
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21-game slate (top 25)
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Get those Saturday picks in.....
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Saturday NCAA
Iowa -17.5 vs Purdue
West Virginia +33.5 at Oklahoma
Louisville +24 vs Clemson
Wisconsin -31 at Illinois
Auburn -19.5 at Arkansas
South Carolina +5 vs Florida
SMU -7.5 vs Temple
Oregon -3 at Washington
LSU -18.5 at Mississippi State
Rutgers +28.5 vs Minnesota
Appalachian St -15 vs UL-Monrow
Tulsa +17 at Cincinnati
Missouri -21 at Vanderbilt
Oklahoma State -4 vs Baylor
Arizona State +14 at Utah
Georgia -25 vs Kentucky
Kansas +21 at Texas
Michigan +9 at Penn State
Alabama -34.5 vs Tennessee
Boise St -7 at BYU
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Saturday NCAA
Iowa -17.5 vs Purdue
West Virginia +33.5 at Oklahoma
Louisville +24 vs Clemson
Wisconsin -31 at Illinois
Auburn -19.5 at Arkansas
South Carolina +5 vs Florida
SMU -7.5 vs Temple
Oregon -3 at Washington
LSU -18.5 at Mississippi State
Rutgers +28.5 vs Minnesota
Appalachian St -15 vs UL-Monrow
Tulsa +17 at Cincinnati
Missouri -21 at Vanderbilt
Oklahoma State -4 vs Baylor
Arizona State +14 at Utah
Georgia -25 vs Kentucky
Kansas +21 at Texas
Michigan +9 at Penn State
Alabama -34.5 vs Tennessee
Boise St -7 at BYU
Purdue, W. Va, Louisville, Illinois, Arkansas, Florida, Temple, Washington, LSU, Rutgers, App St, Cincy, Missou, Baylor, Utah, Kentucky, Texas, Penn St, Tenn, Boise
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THE 42, Northwestern 3
As I said before, the best THE team I've seen in the last 20 years, maybe more. Great defense great OL. Want to beat them, score more than 30 points or make their QB beat you with only his arm. Tough to do on both sides of the rock. The Buckeyed OL is Top 5 in the country IMO, and getting better every game.
Florida 26, South Carolina 20
Should be a tight game. Both teams might be a little spent emotionally. We'll see who's up for it. That SC defense has to be pretty beat up.
Clemson 42, Louisville 27
Get those Mike Leach cracks in any way you can. Clemson's offense has been a bit up an down, mostly up. Their defense has been coming along though and is starting to evolve. My bird dog ears are starting to perk up after last week.
Wisconsin 49, Illinois 10
"At this point, I am trying to cover all of the power 5 unbeatens, which is the only reason to waste brain cells calculating how big a margin of victory this is going to be. One thing CFB 2019 has proven beyond any reasonable doubt: Wisky is better than any college team in the State of Michigan by a pretty large margin." Steve has something here. Even I am becoming impressed with the Badgers.
Louisiana State 40, Missi State 17
Could be a hangover game for the Bengals, but the Bulldogs have looked pretty bad so far this year.
Minnesota 35, Rutgers 20
Minnesota is a team I just haven' paid ten seconds to so far as team analysis. But Rutgers really sucks. I could name 50 teams that I would feel confident the Dead Knights would lose to. Many of them not even in Div I. If not for the love of money Big Ten WHY? The SHAME of it. ;-)
Oregon 30, Washington 34
The Ducks finally came alive on defense and were the O I really thought they'd be this year. The Huskies defense is halfway decent and I think is getting better. 49th in the nation in total yards given up BUT only 28th in ppg,. So, much like the South Carolina defense which is 77th in in total yards given up on defense but 48th in ppg, Something that ballwatcher Skippy overlooked.(NOTE: Another example, Alabama, but go do the research yourself, so might be surprised. VERY surprised)
USC 39, Arizona 14
Arizona has defensive problems. And they aren't in any way like Wash, South Carolina, or Bama.
Utah 24, Arizona State 22
The Fightin’ Herms, now THAT'S funny. Seems to stack up as a good game,
Penn State 29, Michigan 19
We'll mop the field with em.
Boise State 35, BYU 23
Not much to say. Boise is a good team but so is BYU. The fans should be well entertained.
Alabama 42, Tennessee 20
Bama is giving up more yards defensively than I've in a long time. Sooner of later either they are going to crush someone or have a close call. But Tennessee?
Oklahoma State 30, Baylor 31
Just a guess.
Maryland 27, Indiana 20
The twerps are playing. And I'm really not sure which team I'm referring to.
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just when I finally give Wisconsin some praise. LOL
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Just goes to show you how strong and deep the Big Whatever is, when even a bottom dweller is dangerous enough to take out a top team.
Channeling my inner Paul Finebaum....
I would say it was a classic trap game, but would not think the Illini capable of trapping grease.
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We rolled up 600 yds. on LOU with 2-3 turnovers and idiot ESPN talking pr!cks are saying, idk, if a one-loss WISCO beats tOSU could the Committee...??
Idiots, it’s like watching Vitale cover a Duke game and all he says is “at the next level,” just shut the fuck up and call the game and maybe give some props to the team that has you so distracted in a blowout that you are just noiseing off about hypothetical bullshit mid-season.
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And, oh, my character bought a 15-pack of Keystone Light for $10, but this time it was me, knowingly, like a Tyler Durden kind of thingy I’m having trouble distinguishing fiction from reality and vice-versa...
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We rolled up 600 yds. on LOU with 2-3 turnovers and idiot ESPN talking pr!cks are saying, idk, if a one-loss WISCO beats tOSU could the Committee...??
Idiots, it’s like watching Vitale cover a Duke game and all he says is “at the next level,” just shut the fuck up and call the game and maybe give some props to the team that has you so distracted in a blowout that you are just noiseing off about hypothetical bullshit mid-season.
LOL
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Giving NCAA a try. Man - zebras just as bad there. Michigan getting hosed early.
Harbaugh should have established the hammer early on 4th and 1 at Penn State 48 - but punted....
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Welcome to the hit list sh!tlist hotseat...
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And the “whiteout” is one of the dumbest things to me, but no doubt it’s legit. It just seems so “white.”
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I’ll take the “turnover chain” any day, not that the two are on equal footing, it’s just the South vs. Yankees, respek, tOSU, etc., I don’t know why I hate it...
Don’t know if I told y’all this though on the college football front, my BIL went with his boys to the A&M game opener and said they couldn’t buy a beer, he said it was nuts how generous their fans were, like thanks for showing up in Texas, your money no good, I was like fuk, good job TX.
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Just goes to show you how strong and deep the Big Whatever is, when even a bottom dweller is dangerous enough to take out a top team.
Channeling my inner Paul Finebaum....
I would say it was a classic trap game, but would not think the Illini capable of trapping grease.
5000 yard rusher fumbles up 9 with 7 minutes left
Then idiot coach puts ball in the air with 2 minutes left
Cant make it up
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And you don’t need to...that’s reality...
You could make it up but WISCO actually got beaten by the best team on the field that day.
Illini, not a good football team.
There are reasons you don’t have to make up how the BCS works, but I’ll leave that to people who make sh!t up so they don’t have to believe reality...
Newsflash: Wisconsin is not good. Again and again and again.
Did I make that up??
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Dude, your guys were a blatant missed defensive holding on a 2 point conversion away from losing to North Carolina, and playoff irrelevance.
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The top four teams in the new AP Poll
all have more than 1400 total poll points, the closest
cluster of top teams this year.
Alabama (1486)
LSU (1462)
tOSU (1429)
Clemson (1409)
Clemson, the preseason number one, has dropped four spots without a loss. Notre Dame,in 1971, fell from preseason #1 to 8 without a loss then was beaten twice by the end of the season and finished 13.
Joe Burrow has broken LSU’s single season passing touchdown record in just seven games
Illinois was a 30.5 point underdog and beat Wisconsin the largest point spread upset in the B1G since 1982.
Minnesota sits atop the B1G West at 7-0 and ranked 17th in the AP Poll. After Maryland this week its schedule gets a lot tougher.
Home to Penn State, on the road to Iowa and Northwestern, then
home against Wisconsin.
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Dude, your guys were a blatant missed defensive holding on a 2 point conversion away from losing to North Carolina, and playoff irrelevance.
I never heard anyone mention a defensive hold, give me a break, and it’s always like this, UNC is well-coached and beat a COCK team that beat UGGA, they also lost to AppSt so struggle with motivation/adrenaline against lesser opponents, but you have to win close games or you may be gone.
If we lose to Wake, who may be worse than ILL, we are done, but WISCO you can never believe they hype, like you said not really a trap game, sometimes there’s a “tell,” like maybe they’re not that fucking good, and us eking our vs. a top 40 team is irrelevant to that argument.
Remember when tOSU got BLOWN OUT by Purdue?
TELL
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21-game slate (top 25)
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Get those Saturday picks in.....
10-11 week
68-77
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21-game slate (top 25)
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Get those Saturday picks in.....
10-11 week
68-77
9-11, didn't bet the OSU game.
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I didn't lose a single game I bet on.
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And the “whiteout” is one of the dumbest things to me, but no doubt it’s legit. It just seems so “white.”
The rest of the Big Whatever is organizing a suit against Penn State for "White Out Privilege."
Their days are numbered.
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Don’t know if I told y’all this though on the college football front, my BIL went with his boys to the A&M game opener and said they couldn’t buy a beer, he said it was nuts how generous their fans were, like thanks for showing up in Texas, your money no good, I was like fuk, good job TX.
I have heard that A&M fans are like normal people compared to Longhorn fans. Sounds like it may be true?
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Apparently, that can kinda be the case with Ag/Eng land grant universities generally, arguably, but he was pretty emphatic that it was like, everybody, he said they literycouldnt buy a beer...
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Eventual 2019-2020 National ChampionMichigan State University 24, the Pennsylvania State 16
For the record, we remain the only defense to hold THE to under 40 points in a game. Which along with a nickel gets you... nothing. 5 cents doesn’t buy fuck all these days. Anyway, I do think our defense rebounds from the embarrassment at Wisky, and we manage just enough offense to get by at home. Besides, it is a trap game; the PSU is coming off their win over Methchicken and looking forward to the epic battle with the unbeaten Gophers, and will be looking past us. Besides, as I have noted before, now is the time for optimism; reality can be dealt with later.
Houston 27, S&MU 21
After Boise’s loss, SMU is next up in the Gang of Five barrel. The Ponies are unbeaten against a fairly soft schedule, while Houston gave Oklahoma a pretty good game. Right now, it looks like Cinci is the best bet for the Non-Power 5 team in the Big Six.
THE 35, Wisconsin 13
Weird things happen in CFB. Wisky loses to a bad Illinois team – one appreciably worse than several teams it handled easily, UNC comes within a bad no call of beating ClemSIN, Maryland looks like good team for a couple weeks. It would not surprise me if this game was closer than this. But it is in the Shoe, and THE has a talent and speed advantage pretty much everywhere – well, Wisky’s D Line may be a match for THE’s O Line – and when they execute it is hard to see anyone stopping them. Execution is a question of preparation, and Wisky will not be catching THE napping.
Oklahoma 45, the Kansas State 13
Like THE, only one team has held Oklahoma to under 40 – Texas. But in addition to the offense, Oklahoma has shown a relatively pretty good defense – relative to the Pure Prairie League, that is. KSU is not a bad team, but that is a limited at best bit of praise.
the Louisiana State 35, Auburn 21
LSU, like THE and Oklahoma, has also been held under 40 points once, like THE, it was MSU that limited them. Auburn put 50 + up on MSU, so fans of the transitive properties of football wins can figure out that math, and factor in Florida. I do not have great confidence in Auburn’s offense and QB play, despite the occasional explosion.
Minnesota 27, Maryland 17
Really, the Gophers have yet to lose. Granted, they will wind up with at least three losses, but not this game. Syracuse must be AWFUL.
Alabama 35, Arkansas 3
Tua’s absence may eventually derail Alabama, but not this week. I picture Mac Jones singing country songs while driving a pick up truck drunk on his ass on Southern Comfort. So, perfect for Alabama. If he was also sleeping with his sister, perfect for ClemSIN. So – I have said before that the Committee will not take a non-champ over a one loss conference champ. But what if that one loss team is Alabama? And the loss is to an LSU team, with out, or with a limited, Tua? Would they get in over a one loss ClemSIN, Oklahoma or THE? Granted, I do not see either of those teams losing right now, but CFB is weird.
Boston College 35, ClemSIN 31
Calling the upset.* Karma! Suck it jbott!
University of California (Southern) 27, Colorado10
The Men of Troy are on a mission to see if 8 – 4 can save Clay Helton’s job (No.). Colorado has had one really good half of football this year.
Methchicken 24, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 17
Fuck this game. Just fuck it. Methchicken has its second loss in conference and is officially irrelevant. Time to take out the Golden Bedpans.
Oregon 31, the Washington State 28
Oregon played with a second loss last week against UDub. This one is at Oregon, so I will go with the home team. The PAWCP is not dead yet, but unless Oregon or Utah win out – far from certain – they are out of the playoffs again. Really, I think they also need either the Big Whatever or Pure Prairie League champ to have lost twice anyway.
Utah 27, University of California ( ) 7
Last of the real playoff possibilities. I think we tend to forget about Utah, but they do have only one loss and running the table at least keeps them in the picture. The difference between Cal and Minnesota is after winning the first four games, Cal started playing teams that do not suck. Well, and Oregon State.
Pittsburgh 35, Miami 13
Is Pitt the class of the South Atlantic League Coastal? Maybe. Is it anywhere near being “Coastal”? The fuck. Manny Diaz should have taken the Temple job.
Iowa 12, Northwestern 9
Because this is beyond all hope the single most boring game involving a Top 25 team on the board and I want to see if I can induce narcolepsy in cap when he thinks about his picks.
Iowa State 28, Oklahoma State 24
ISU has righted the ship a bit after a sputtering start. According to my preview article, Oklahoma
State is “7th in the Big 12”, which is deceiving.
* No I’m not. ClemSIN 45, Boston College 14.
Because they are just better, and Jennifer Lawrence’s struggles are mostly relative to last year.
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I didn't lose a single game I bet on.
I've often been amazed by you.
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Stupidity often knows no bounds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/highschool/2019/10/22/high-school-football-team-forfeits-games-fires-coaches-cancels-season/40358167/
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Stupidity often knows no bounds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/highschool/2019/10/22/high-school-football-team-forfeits-games-fires-coaches-cancels-season/40358167/
I've always thought tattoos were one of the stupidest ideas on the planet.
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Good that the school took a stand. You are right though... Was it really that hard to sit one player for one game?
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Mich St. 19, Penn St. 23
Just my luck that this is the week the Spartans get a clue on offense. Thus far they haven't been able to get out of their own way. We haven't been much better at times. Both teams sport decent defenses.
Houston 27, S&MU 37
SMU averages almost 44 ppg. Houston's D is giving up 28 ppg, minus Prairie View. The Washington Cougars, whose defense is beyond bad since they lost their DC, held Houston to 24 points.
THE 39, Wisconsin 17
Every week my gorge gets a little closer to erupting, as I am now nearly certain that the National Champion this year will be the Buckeyed. Someone turn on the Bat signal!
Oklahoma 45, the Kansas State 19
Oklahoma is the team that scarfed Leach's DC.
LSU 30, Auburn 21
Should be a great game to watch. Last team to score...
Minnesota 27, Maryland 17
With the exception of the SDS Jackrabbits the Gophers haven't played a team with a defensive pulse.
Alabama 42, Arkansas 10
Sabin might go into the old run mode. Something they've gotten away from.
Boston College 23, Clemson 41
Another win for Clemson while everyone still acts unimpressed.
USC 37, Colorado 17
SC should win the game. The OL still has issues but the new style of signal calling seems to be gelling. The defense is actually pretty decent.
Michigan 24, Notre Dame 34
You keep hearing how Harbaugh's job isn't in any jeopardy. I don't believe that for an instant.
Oregon 41, the Washington State 28
Wash St's defense is in a shambles. Friggin DC swiping Sooners.
Utah 27, University of California 20
Game stacks up to be watchable I think.
Pittsburgh 35, Miami 29
WTFC?
Iowa 20, Northwestern 18
I'm not sure as to the watchability of this game outside of their local hillbillies.(Watchabillies, I think I just invented a new term) Wait, do they even have hills there?
Iowa State 28, Oklahoma State 24
Beats me who wins. I'll take Steve's score.
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“*,” funny whisk, Tlaw not Jlaw, bit of a stretch.
There are a lot of fans who are like “he’s awesum, but I just wish he’d cut that hair...”
I do not care, and fear how the gods of football might judge him.
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El Capitan, the job at Michigan that is in peril is the Offensive Play caller, OC. He calls plays
Like he has no idea what play he may call next. He reminds me of how Brian Kelly at ND used to call plays before he realized how bad he was at it. In a nut shell, they try to figure out what MIGHT work for three quarters and then, finally, score two or three TD's in the 4th quarter.
I don't know if Harbaugh ever calls his own plays, but I think he better start.
Michigan is NOT getting anything close out of their offensive players. And they have some good ones.
Note to Harbaugh: wake up and call the plays!!!!!!
You could be right. But He's the Head Ball Coach. The axe could fall on his head, I think, if he has a 7-5 season. And he just might.
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“*,” funny whisk, Tlaw not Jlaw, bit of a stretch.
There are a lot of fans who are like “he’s awesum, but I just wish he’d cut that hair...”
I do not care, and fear how the gods of football might judge him.
JB, remind the Tiger fans what happened to Samson when his hair was cut.
I had hair halfway down my back when I played. Never made me play better.
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“*,” funny whisk, Tlaw not Jlaw, bit of a stretch.
There are a lot of fans who are like “he’s awesum, but I just wish he’d cut that hair...”
I do not care, and fear how the gods of football might judge him.
JB, remind the Tiger fans what happened to Samson when his hair was cut.
I had hair halfway down my back when I played. Never made me play better.
I still have hair all the way down my back. Top of my head, on the other hand....
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Thursday 10/24 top 25
SMU. -14. at. Houston
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Rest of slate
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
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“*,” funny whisk, Tlaw not Jlaw, bit of a stretch.
There are a lot of fans who are like “he’s awesum, but I just wish he’d cut that hair...”
I do not care, and fear how the gods of football might judge him.
JB, remind the Tiger fans what happened to Samson when his hair was cut.
I had hair halfway down my back when I played. Never made me play better.
I still have hair all the way down my back. Top of my head, on the other hand....
I didn't want to have that old tired hippie look. Went back to farmer haircuts.
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El Capitan, the job at Michigan that is in peril is the Offensive Play caller, OC. He calls plays
Like he has no idea what play he may call next. He reminds me of how Brian Kelly at ND used to call plays before he realized how bad he was at it. In a nut shell, they try to figure out what MIGHT work for three quarters and then, finally, score two or three TD's in the 4th quarter.
I don't know if Harbaugh ever calls his own plays, but I think he better start.
Michigan is NOT getting anything close out of their offensive players. And they have some good ones.
Note to Harbaugh: wake up and call the plays!!!!!!
You could be right. But He's the Head Ball Coach. The axe could fall on his head, I think, if he has a 7-5 season. And he just might.
He is exactly what Michigan wants for their HC - one of their own! He has a long future at Michigan as long as he doesn't do something to embarass the school.
They beat ND, The SpaTanPansies and the BuckNuts and all is well in Ann Arbor!
That's the flipside.
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I think Methchicken winds up with at least four losses this year, but I do not think he is in any danger of getting fired. His out is the NFL, if he wants it.
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Thursday 10/24 top 25
SMU. -14. at. Houston
I'll take the Ponies.
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The targeting rule sucks.
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Sucks sucks sucks.
It is the Grand Hoover of all rules.
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Sucks sucks sucks.
It is the Grand Hoover of all rules.
Did you feel the same way when the "flying wedge" was outlawed?
No, but my dad did.
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Saturday 10/26
Wisconsin +14.5 at Ohio St
Appalachian State -27.5 at South Alabama
Iowa -8 at Northwestern
Oklahoma -23.5 at Kansas State
TCU +1 vs Texas
Auburn +10.5 at LSU
Minnesota -16.5 vs Maryland
Oklahoma State +10.5 at Iowa State
Penn State -5 at Michigan State
Arkansas +31.5 at Alabama
Arizona State -3 at UCLA
Clemson -34.5 vs Boston College
Michigan -Pk- vs Notre Dame
Utah -20,5 vs California
Oregon -14 vs Washington State
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Sucks sucks sucks.
It is the Grand Hoover of all rules.
Did you feel the same way when the "flying wedge" was outlawed?
No, but my dad did.
👌✌️
:-)
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Saturday 10/26
Wisconsin +14.5 at Ohio St
Appalachian State -27.5 at South Alabama
Iowa -8 at Northwestern
Oklahoma -23.5 at Kansas State
TCU +1 vs Texas
Auburn +10.5 at LSU
Minnesota -16.5 vs Maryland
Oklahoma State +10.5 at Iowa State
Penn State -5 at Michigan State
Arkansas +31.5 at Alabama
Arizona State -3 at UCLA
Clemson -34.5 vs Boston College
Michigan -Pk- vs Notre Dame
Utah -20,5 vs California
Oregon -14 vs Washington State
OSU, S. Alabama, Northwestern, K. St, Tejas, Auburn, Maryland, Iowa St, Penn St, Bama, Zona St, Clemson, ND, Cal, Wash St
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Chase Young is not half bad.
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So, Chase Young is the best player in the country as tOSU puts on dominating performance over a fierce WISCO squad.
Wow.
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Opioid CHUD breaking it down with laser insight post-game.
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Oklahoma goes down. CFB is weird.
Jealous snark aside, THE, which officially goes to 10 - 0, was dominant offensively and defensively over a very good defensive team.
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I didn't want to have that old tired hippie look. Went back to farmer haircuts.
I think he meant the actual hair growing on his back. That or he has not trimmed his ear hair in some time.
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Did you feel the same way when the "flying wedge" was outlawed?
We actually got called for that earlier this season.
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I don't want to get ahead of the facts here but I am starting to think that this might- might - not be our year.
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Didn't Arkansas hire their coach from SMU?
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Didn't Arkansas hire their coach from SMU?
Facts are not his strength.
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Wait: Facts are correct??
WISCO sucks.
Am I a cantaloupe???
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Wait: Facts are correct??
WISCO sucks.
Am I a cantaloupe???
I don't know about a cantaloupe, but I could carve a better man out of a banana.
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JB, come easy on RisqueNut, Cap's Lions had their way with the SpaTanPansies and RisqueNut
Is not feeling well.
Nah, I have long since come to grips with the idea that our offense is pretty much the diagonal opposite of ept. It don't worry me.
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#5, 8, 9, 13, 15, 23, 24
Ranked teams losing.
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Oklahoma goes down. CFB is weird.
Jealous snark aside, THE, which officially goes to 10 - 0, was dominant offensively and defensively over a very good defensive team.
OSU is for real. Anyone who knows me at all knows how hard it is for me to say that.
Baaarrrff!!!!
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Did you feel the same way when the "flying wedge" was outlawed?
We actually got called for that earlier this season.
Potato wedge?
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It appears Harbaugh got my note and has changed the play calling.
Up 17 on the Irish.
Don't look now but the best game in the BigWaahever this year will be the Gophers
Vs the Nittany Lions.
This is the most undisciplined Bama team I have seen in 20 years.
Arkansas? This is what happens when you hired a BigWaahEver coach from Wisconsin into the SEC.
Clemson taking care of business. Why hasn't BC gotten a new coach?
#45 for ND has to be somewhat relieved his moronic antics in the early game punt block wasn't the difference. No doubt he'll get peeled for it anyways. Kelly looked like he was in quite the foul mood.
We'll stuff those overgrown rodents back down their hole.
Bama is playing lots of underclassmen, small excuse I know. But you're right, experienced players are making too many silly mistakes.
Last year was the best Arkansas has recruited in the last five or six years. Unfortunately Morris hasn't followed that class up so far in the 2020 class. And that has been the Razorbacks bane. UP and down recruiting years. And I think you're referring to Bilema. He's gone.
Everyone continues to dis Clemson early. Mistake.
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Wait: Facts are correct??
WISCO sucks.
Am I a cantaloupe???
I don't know about a cantaloupe, but I could carve a better man out of a banana.
Banana? I know you're looking to peel the guy out, but I think your wit is slipping with that one.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Pocket-Gopher_Ano-Nuevo-SP.jpg/220px-Pocket-Gopher_Ano-Nuevo-SP.jpg)
What are you looking at rat?
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Wait: Facts are correct??
WISCO sucks.
Am I a cantaloupe???
I don't know about a cantaloupe, but I could carve a better man out of a banana.
Banana? I know you're looking to peel the guy out, but I think your wit is slipping with that one.
Take it up with TR. The last Republican president who did not suck.
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Wait: Facts are correct??
WISCO sucks.
Am I a cantaloupe???
I don't know about a cantaloupe, but I could carve a better man out of a banana.
Banana? I know you're looking to peel the guy out, but I think your wit is slipping with that one.
Take it up with TR. The last Republican president who did not suck.
You do realize that Teddy wasn't all there right?
So half of it was Teddy's and half yours for posting it. Sort of a halfwit post.
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Wait: Facts are correct??
WISCO sucks.
Am I a cantaloupe???
I don't know about a cantaloupe, but I could carve a better man out of a banana.
Banana? I know you're looking to peel the guy out, but I think your wit is slipping with that one.
Take it up with TR. The last Republican president who did not suck.
You do realize that Teddy wasn't all there right?
So half of it was Teddy's and half yours for posting it. Sort of a halfwit post.
The wit was my half.
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This and That
LSU is the first SEC team in the AP poll era (since 1936) to win three games against top-10 opponents in its first eight games, according to ESPN Stats & Info. LSU has won at least eight games in a season for 20 consecutive years. Even Alabama and Ohio State can’t say that.
Ohio State the second team in the AP poll era to open conference play with five consecutive games scoring at least 30 and allowing 10 or fewer, according to ESPN Stats & Info, joining 1987 Nebraska.
Gamesmanship. Ohio State’s Game Ops folks piped in Jump Around during the 4th quarter of the Wisconsin beat down.
Minnesota is 8-0 for the first time since 1941.
Michigan’s 45-14 win against Notre Dame was its largest against a top-10 team since 1977.
Michigan State has lost three consecutive games by at least 21 points for the first time in school history, going back to its first season in 1896.
LSU’s win over Auburn helped the Tigers build up its resume for the CFB even if it loses to Alabama. The SOS could favor them over a similar OSU/PSU finish.
Oregon got the Pac12 back in the CFB hunt after Oklahoma’s loss.
But a one loss champion outside of an undefeated champion of the B1G,SEC,and ACC is going to have a tough time overcoming LSU.
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Oklahoma goes down. CFB is weird.
Jealous snark aside, THE, which officially goes to 10 - 0, was dominant offensively and defensively over a very good defensive team.
OSU is for real. Anyone who knows me at all knows how hard it is for me to say that.
Baaarrrff!!!!
To the extent I have it, my money is still on ClemSIN.
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#45 for ND has to be somewhat relieved his moronic antics in the early game punt block wasn't the difference. No doubt he'll get peeled for it anyways. Kelly looked like he was in quite the foul mood.
Sure, that brain lock will get talked.over, but I suspect.there are bigger issues.
We'll stuff those overgrown rodents back down their hole.
No doubt. Rose Bowl in the PSU's future. I think THE has a talent and speed edge over the Knitting Kittens.
Bama is playing lots of underclassmen, small excuse I know. But you're right, experienced players are making too many silly mistakes.
They have yet to play anyone.who can make it matter.Last year was the best Arkansas has recruited in the last five or six years. Unfortunately Morris hasn't followed that class up so far in the 2020 class. And that has been the Razorbacks bane. UP and down recruiting years. And I think you're referring to Bilema. He's gone.
Arkansas is paying the.price for hiring Johnelle Smith. Only a Dantonio can help you recover from an error like that.Everyone continues to dis Clemson early. Mistake.
I still have them as Champ.
I am glad I do not have to be civil to your syphillis addled idiot of an alter ego of anymore.
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Surprised AP voters didn't drop ClemSIN after beating BC.
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Surprised AP voters didn't drop ClemSIN after beating BC.
Given the tightness I suspect the Committee will find LSU/OSU in the top 2 based on SOS and performance.
Clemson and Alabama would be my order after that.
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Hairy Lime
I am glad I do not have to be civil to your syphillis addled idiot of an alter ego of anymore.
Especially since he misquoted you.
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We are 11-3 against OKLA, tOSU, ALA, done, etc., in playoff era, with 2 NC’s with 2 different QB’s.
I think our odds of repeating are like 28%, because life happens, but you would have to threaten to shoot me in the face to moneyline tOSU at a 4-1 payout.
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We are 11-3 against OKLA, tOSU, ALA, done, etc., in playoff era, with 2 NC’s with 2 different QB’s.
I think our odds of repeating are like 28%, because life happens, but you would have to threaten to shoot me in the face to moneyline tOSU at a 4-1 payout.
Three losses? What a bunch losers! We've only lost in the playoffs once!
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This and That
LSU is the first SEC team in the AP poll era (since 1936) to win three games against top-10 opponents in its first eight games, according to ESPN Stats & Info. LSU has won at least eight games in a season for 20 consecutive years. Even Alabama and Ohio State can’t say that.
Minnesota is 8-0 for the first time since 1941.
LSU’s win over Auburn helped the Tigers build up its resume for the CFB even if it loses to Alabama. The SOS could favor them over a similar OSU/PSU finish.
Love LSU. I don't see them beating Bama. But you never know.
They had some significant injuries in the Auburn game. They've got an extra week to heal up but it still may not be enough.
Minnesota, I'd like to say something bad about them but hey they don't look all that bad really.
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Oklahoma goes down. CFB is weird.
Jealous snark aside, THE, which officially goes to 10 - 0, was dominant offensively and defensively over a very good defensive team.
OSU is for real. Anyone who knows me at all knows how hard it is for me to say that.
Baaarrrff!!!!
To the extent I have it, my money is still on ClemSIN.
Pretty decent bet. It's on a proven thoroughbred. But there "are" other ponies in the race. I just hope by all that is Holy that I am wrong.
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I am glad I do not have to be civil to your syphillis addled idiot of an alter ego of anymore.
Anymore? When were you ever?
To be fair Deej couldn't say he was either.
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Take it up with TR. The last Republican president who did not suck.
I would like to believe this is just your sense of humor, but I have seen some posts that make me think you actually believe this?
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Three losses? What a bunch losers! We've only lost in the playoffs once!
By this logic, we are one game better than you.
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Three losses? What a bunch losers! We've only lost in the playoffs once!
By this logic, we are one game better than you.
I would be more comfortable with that statement with quotation marks around logic.
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Take it up with TR. The last Republican president who did not suck.
I would like to believe this is just your sense of humor, but I have seen some posts that make me think you actually believe this?
Well, Eisenhower.
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I would be more comfortable with that statement with quotation marks around logic.
quotation marks inferred
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What an awful set of games to pick from while
Eventual 2019-2020 National Champion Michigan State uses the off week to fix the woes that they were unable to fix during the last bye week two weeks ago. Really only one good matchup.
Baylor 35, West Virginia 17
Baylor has put together a nice season. It is all going to come crashing down on them in a couple weeks, but not this week. West Virginia is pretty bad.
Appalachian State 42, Georgia Southern 35
For the record Georgia Southern gave currently not lost yet Minnesota all they could handle. For the record, currently not lost yet Minnesota is not really that good.
Methchicken 35, Maryland 10
I do not buy the narrative that Methchicken has fixed its offensive woes. Not on the basis of one game. Of course, they really do not have to fix those woes to win this game. They pretty much just need to show up. Yankguy progeny gets to brag at the Thanksgiving Day table.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 27, Virginia Tech 24
My good friend Bill, a die hard Hokie fan, reminds me that VT has made a bowl game every year since 1993, the longest active streak in the nation. It pains me to point this out to him, but I do not see where 5 – 2 VT picks up that 6th win. Maybe here – OLotPT looked horrific Saturday – but I do not think they are actually as bad as they played.
Florida 34, Georgia 20
South Carodamnlina beat Georgia by 3. Florida beat South Carodamnlina by 11. Hence, Florida wins this by 14. Math! Florida seems to have moved away from the offensive problems they have had the last few years. Georgia just seems a little off to me this year.
Kansas State 31, Kansas 10
That Kansas does not totally suck is one of the better stories of the year.
Utah 35, Washington 17
The PAWCP has a better shot at the playoffs this week than they did last week. A one win conference champ, in the hopper against once beaten Oklahoma might be able to get that last playoff spot. I suppose I should add the the LSU/Alabama loser into the mix, but I still do not think the committee takes a non-champ over a conference champ with only 1 loss.
CelmSIN 223, Wooford 0
Seriously, jbot. Your team plays the fightin’ terriers midway through your season and you are banned from criticizing anyone else’s schedule for three years.
Memphis 35, SMU 21
Memphis lost to Temple by 2, SMU beat Temple by 24. Ergo, SMU should win by 26. Math? HELL NO. Not this time. Taking the home team.
Oregon 38, University of California* 24
What I said about Utah and the playoffs applies even more to Oregon, since their loss (Auburn in game 1) is a pretty good loss, and the Committee seems more likely to overlook an early loss if your team improves. It might be enough to elevate them over Oklahoma. Sorry, troj, but I really think you need to rethink your coaching staff, though I am not sure who is on the market that would elevate the team. [cough]Urban Meyer[/cough].
* Southern
Not sure there is another game worth the candle.
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Top 25
9-7 last week.... 77-84 overall
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Two Thursday games
BAYLOR -17.5 vs West Virginia
APPALACHIAN STATE -15 vs Georgia Southern
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Top 25
9-7 last week.... 77-84 overall
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Two Thursday games
BAYLOR -17.5 vs West Virginia
APPALACHIAN STATE -15 vs Georgia Southern
West Virginia, App St.
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Good -bye WVU #4
And good-bye BU #3
Player safety comes first.
Collateral damage/Incidental contact.
Delenda est targeto.
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Good -bye WVU #4
And good-bye BU #3
And good-bye MSU #35.
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And good-bye MSU #35.
Good thing Rutgers and Maryland are still on the Spartan Schedule or Bowl eligibility could be gone, too.
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Frankly I worry about Maryland.
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Wake Forest -7.5 vs NC State
Michigan -21 vs Maryland
Notre Dame -17.5 vs Virginia Tech
Florida +6.5 vs Georgia
Kansas State -5 at Kansas
Washington +3 vs Utah
Clemson -49 vs Wofford
Auburn -18 vs Mississippi
Cincinnati -24 vs East Carolina
Memphis -6 vs SMU
Oregon -4 at USC
Boise St -17 at San Jose St
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
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Methchicken 35, Maryland 10
Maryland is up and down. Mostly down. Michigan may have found their stride defensively.
ND 27, Virginia Tech 24
We've learned one thing about ND last week. They can't play in the rain.
Florida 27, Georgia 30
Georgia has the better ranked players, Florida has the better head coach. Should be a tight game though.
Kansas State 31, Kansas 27
Rivalry game.
Utah 35, Washington 17
Washington doesn't have the defense or the skill players they've had in the past few years. It's starting to show.
Clemson 51, Whoa! Ford 0
Wofford maybe has the better band and wood shop.
Memphis 30, SMU 33
SMU has found ways to win when you thought they were done for. Who can argue with that.
Oregon 38, University of USC 24
That Ducks seem to have found their stride. Or is it waddle? Anyways they may eke out a win here. But the Trojans have their backs against a wall so to speak. They'll be throwin the ball all over the place.
Kutztown 27, Westchester 24
The Golden Bears have one of the better defenses in the PSAC. But the Golden Rams are at home and have a pretty decent OL. This would be a great game to be at for any true college football fan, and John Farrell is a nice little stadium.
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Wake Forest -7.5 vs NC State
Michigan -21 vs Maryland
Notre Dame -17.5 vs Virginia Tech
Florida +6.5 vs Georgia
Kansas State -5 at Kansas
Washington +3 vs Utah
Clemson -49 vs Wofford
Auburn -18 vs Mississippi
Cincinnati -24 vs East Carolina
Memphis -6 vs SMU
Oregon -4 at USC
Boise St -17 at San Jose St
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/scoreboard/top25/
Wake, Mich, Va Tech, Georgia, K. State, Utah, Clemson, Auburn, East Caro, SMU, Oregon, Boise,
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California giving The Rock all they can handle in the first half.
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Dartmouth beats Harvard on a Hail Mary. Sets up an Ivy League showdown with Princeton next week, both undefeated.
And,
cheer, cheer for you know who!
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Nice wins for ND and Utah
Nice day going for Cap.
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Bearcats win a thriller at East Carolina.
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Purdue’s last 15 touchdowns have been scored by freshmen.
Maryland scored more points in its first two games (142) than it has in its past seven games (124).
Georgia is the only FBS team that has not allowed a rushing touchdown this season.
Illinois has forced and recovered a fumble in all nine games this season, the longest active streak in FBS.
Notre Dame lost a fumble for the first time in four years in its win over Virginia Tech
Rutgers has lost all 6 of its B1G games. All by 28 points or more.
Georgia is the only FBS team that has not allowed a rushing touchdown this season.
Willie Taggart is out at Florida State
as head coach.
AP still has the top four as LSU, Alabama, tOSU, and Clemson.
Of the 62 first place votes ‘Bama got 21, LSU and the Buckeyes 17 each and Clemson 7
Penn State and Georgia come next.
It will be interesting to see how the Committee sorts out the middle of the AP 25.
7 Oregon 8-1
8 Utah 8-1
9 Oklahoma 7-1
10 Florida 7-2
11 Baylor 8-0
12 Auburn 7-2
13 Minnesota 8-0
14 Michigan 7-2
The CFP Committee’s first rankings come out Tuesday.
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No fucking point.in holding a grudge if you are going to get all factual about it.
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Interesting to see how the Committee sorts out the gang of five in its first rankings tomorrow.
Four of 6 in the top 25 are from the AAC,
Cincinnati is 17th and Memphis number 19, both at 7-1 and scheduled to meet in the last game of the regular season.
Memphis lost by 2 on the road to a good Temple team while the Bearcats were shut out 32-0 by Ohio State in Columbus.
The pollsters seem to give Cincinnati the nod over Memphis on SOS despite the Buckeye blowout.
Will the Committee do likewise? The AAC is pretty competitive and its Champ would be figured to rank pretty high if it comes in with only one loss.
The last time a non power five Ohio team was ranked in the final AP poll was 1970 when undefeated Toledo of the Mid-Am came in at 12th. OSU finished 5Th
In 1971 Toledo (on a 35 game winning streak) again finished 12th but Ohio State did not make the poll( only top 20 then) at 6-4 with the Conference still limited to just the Rose Bowl in post season. That was the only year in modern times that an Ohio team not named Ohio State was the only Ohio school in the top 20 spots in the polls.
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42 - 0, not 32 - 0.
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Very early, because I might not have the chance to post before Thursday otherwise.
Michigan State 17, Illinois 3
We had better beat Illinois. I mean we fucking sure as hell better beat Illinois. Do NOT get caught looking forward to Methchicken you bastards. Time for Raequon Williams, Kenny Willekes, Joe Bachie, Josiah Scott et al to live up to the preseason hype. Offensively… yeeesh. I do not know that we are fixable within the context of the year. But we have made it through the rough patch; there is not a game left on the schedule that strikes me as unwinnable. Granted, we have lost three games I thought were winnable, and two very, very badly.
THE 49, Maryland 3
THE is moving like a tremendous machine, at this point, and it is hard to see a team like Maryland posing a threat. Or anyone, at least until those last two games. At some level, I wonder about the type of let down that killed THE’s season the last two years, especially leading up to the hype of two top 5 teams meeting on 11/23. But the two teams leading up to that are Maryland and Rutgers, so no worries.
the Pennsylvania State University 35, Minnesota 10
Nice story for the Aureate Rodents, but there is a real chance they have won their last game – well, Northwestern is not scaring anyone. None of the Power 5 schools Mini has played have a winning record – Illinois is 4 – 4. The best team they have played so far may well be the Jackalopes. Mini is in the “Bowl Eligible” scheduling mode, not the Championship contending schedule mode. Say… P J Fleck to Florida State? He seems to get a lot out of his players, though I think there is at least one better option. Which is not Lane Kiffin, although he apparently wants the job. Maybe USC.*
* I mean Fleck. Calm down, trojanhorse.
the Louisiana State University 27, Alabama 24
I get that THE and PSU have not played the most exacting schedule, but have you seen Alabama’s schedule? Saturday will be the first time they have taken the field against a ranked opponent. While ‘Bama’s schedule is backloaded, LSU has played tough against a good, tough schedule. Which is to say, I have a pretty good idea what LSU is, less so with Alabama. I am Burrowing in with LSU as the God’s Conference champion this year. So, you know what that means: Congratulations Alabama!
Note: I typed this before I read that the Divinity had intervened. To paraphrase Richard Mulligan in Little Big Man, your puny fact is not worth the reversal of a Hairy Lime decision.
ClemSIN 52, North Carolina State 10
Of course, ClemSIN really has not played anyone either. I mean… Wooford? In something other than an early season practice game? They cannot control the down year for their conference, but… Wooford? What, St. Mary’s Orphanage was booked? Anyway, I still expect ClemSIN to win it all in the end despite the absence of a real in season challenge.
Texas Christian University 35, Baylor 32
Methodists versus the Disciples of Christ? I like what Baylor has done under possible future Seminole HC Rhule, and the decision to not schedule a power 5 team OOC – it has been a long standing problem with Baylor in the playoff era – has served the recovering program well. I am not sure this is a real trap game – Baylor should not be in the position of looking ahead to anyone – but they do have OU coming up on the 16th. This is the week the last of the chaff separates from the wheat.
Georgia 31, Missouri 13
This is a possible trap game, sandwiched in between Florida and Auburn, but Georgia has already taken that shot to the gut, and… Missouri has lost to Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Wyfuckingyoming. I have been to Wyfuckingyoming. Yellowstone and Teton are beyond gorgeous, but you can have the rest of the entire fucking state. The drive out of it was one of the most horrifically dull drives I have ever taken, and I have driven I 10 from Van Horn Texas to San Antonio (or vice versa) FOUR TIMES. I seem to have gotten off on a tangent. Missouri is not very good. Georgia is. Enough said.
Oklahoma 42, the Iowa State University 31
I think the playoffs will be, the God’s Conference Champion, the THE/the Pennsylvania State winner, ClemSIN and either Oregon/Utah or Oklahoma, though any loss by the last two teams knocks them out. I think Oklahoma understands that and understands that the ISU is good enough to wreck their season.
Wisconsin 20, Iowa 10
Two things about Iowa: 1. Teams have a hard time scoring on them. 2. They have a hard time scoring on anyone who is any good. Wisky was kicked in the teeth by THE, and stunned by Illinois, but they are still – outside of addle pated haters - a good defense, with a good, if conservative and ground based, offense. Since I expect both to beat the Aureate Rodents, the winner of this game is the losing half of the Big Whatever championship game.
University of California* 31, the Arizona State University 21
I believe I have taken care of the unbeatens, the not lost yets and the reasonable shot at the playoffses. This will be a homecoming for Slovis, and I expect him to continue his growth. Nights here are incredibly cold** – down into the 50’s – but he should be used to it. Clay Helton is playing out the string; 8 – 4 and a trip to the Holiday Bowl is one thing if you are, say, Minnesota. Quite another if you are USC, but that is where they look to be headed.
* Southern
** Clearly, a relative term.
Duke 27, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 21
I do not think OLotPT has much of an offense. Not that Duke has beaten any of the decent teams they have played, but I really want OLofPT to lose their way into a humiliatingly bad Bowl Game. Like the ones we are competing for. I see no reason to stand being lectured on my grudges by someone who has repeated the “I got rolled by a guy wearing an OSU sweatshirt” excuse for his disheveled appearance in a New Jersey Turnpike restroom so often he has actually come to believe it.
Cincinnati 42, Connecticut 10
I assume we have already metaphorically circled November 30 on our calendars – and did so as soon as the calendars were printed - but circle the 29th also. Cincinnati v. Memphis should be for the Gang of Five rep to the New Years Six. Certainly, UConn should not stand in the way.
WtFU 42, VTU 17
Well, Woke may be the last speed bump on the ClemSIN coronation path. VT is actually pretty alarming for my wife, a cardiothoracic nurse. More so then they are on the field these days.
the Boise State University 31, Wyfuckingoming 10
I believe I have made my feelings about the State of Wyfuckingoming known. BSU needs to keep itself in position to spoil the Cinci/Memphis dichotomy – two cities I have never liked though for Memphis that has more to do with the worst La Quinta I have ever stayed in and the huge stinking wet gray dog shit in front of the elevator that was still there (and had been stepped in) 45 minutes after I reported it to the front desk - especially if the winner gacks in the AAC championship game. I seem to have gotten off on a tangent again
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El Capitan, you are almost 100% right that I have not always been civil to your friend. Once upon a time I was civil and explained to him in great detail why ND vs MSU in 1966 resulted in a tie.
After 50+ years he hasn't gotten over it, that's his personal problem, not mine.
As for the incivilty, you know better than anyone on Elba what a disagreeable fellow your friend is.
I hardly think you have forgotten that. But the exchange rate for insults between me and your friend run at about 10:1 in his favor. And he is much better at the rude and crude trade with his STD humor and calling someone's mother a whore. If you have a different accounting I would be glad to hear it.
Putting me on the same level with your friend would be the same as me equating you with JumboNut. Which I would never in a million years do.
You and I can add this to our disagreement about the targetting rule. That's fine with me.
But you should know that I have never sunk to the level your friend has.
And, as I said, you know this better than anyone.
It wasn't a dig against you Deej not in any form. And though I tend to agree with you most of the time, it wasn't a fundamental defense for you either. More of an observation of the ongoing dissonance betwixt the two of you and its mutuality shall we say. Kind of like Skippy and I.
And yes, I know firsthand what a dick Steve can be. But then again so can I. I think we pull it off together quite nicely.
Stevie boy and I have had lots of dustups. In the long run I'm okay with ol Steve and I figure he's okay with me, we both have pretty thick skins. And thick heads too for that matter.
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Joe Bachie is one of the 12 Butkus Award finalists. Somehow I do not like his chances.
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El Capitan, you are almost 100% right that I have not always been civil to your friend. Once upon a time I was civil and explained to him in great detail why ND vs MSU in 1966 resulted in a tie.
After 50+ years he hasn't gotten over it, that's his personal problem, not mine.
As for the incivilty, you know better than anyone on Elba what a disagreeable fellow your friend is.
I hardly think you have forgotten that. But the exchange rate for insults between me and your friend run at about 10:1 in his favor. And he is much better at the rude and crude trade with his STD humor and calling someone's mother a whore. If you have a different accounting I would be glad to hear it.
Putting me on the same level with your friend would be the same as me equating you with JumboNut. Which I would never in a million years do.
You and I can add this to our disagreement about the targetting rule. That's fine with me.
But you should know that I have never sunk to the level your friend has.
And, as I said, you know this better than anyone.
It wasn't a dig against you Deej not in any form. And though I tend to agree with you most of the time, it wasn't a fundamental defense for you either. More of an observation of the ongoing dissonance betwixt the two of you and its mutuality shall we say. Kind of like Skippy and I.
And yes, I know firsthand what a dick Steve can be. But then again so can I. I think we pull it off together quite nicely.
Stevie boy and I have had lots of dustups. In the long run I'm okay with ol Steve and I figure he's okay with me, we both have pretty thick skins. And thick heads too for that matter.
I got no problems with anyone. It is just that.your alter ego is a senile troll who could be replaced with a bot randomly spewing posts that consist of either witless insults, or "Right you are, cap!"
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history)
In the newest installment of ESPN's yearlong initiative marking 150 years of college football, we set out to rank the 150 greatest games in history.
A panel of 150 media members, athletic administrators and former players and coaches selected these games from 202 finalists initially identified by ESPN's Stats & Information group.
I remember several of them, and the usual suspects dominate the list, but a couple of outliers snuck through, and I was lucky enough to have attended #11 with my dad.
And boz one of your alltime favs is #20
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Harry Lime wrote:
I get that THE and PSU have not played the most exacting schedule, but have you seen Alabama’s schedule? Saturday will be the first time they have taken the field against a ranked opponent. While ‘Bama’s schedule is backloaded, LSU has played tough against a good, tough schedule. Which is to say, I have a pretty good idea what LSU is, less so with Alabama.
So should any pollster. We will see tomorrow if this year’s Committee will follows precedent and decides to enter each week with a clean slate. If so Alabama can win out and maybe have a case for the top seed. But right now 28 of the 62 AP first place votes going to the Tide(21) and Clemson defies logic. Especially when the other 34 are split evenly between LSU and tOSU who have both played tougher schedules.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history)
In the newest installment of ESPN's yearlong initiative marking 150 years of college football, we set out to rank the 150 greatest games in history.
A panel of 150 media members, athletic administrators and former players and coaches selected these games from 202 finalists initially identified by ESPN's Stats & Information group.
I remember several of them, and the usual suspects dominate the list, but a couple of outliers snuck through, and I was lucky enough to have attended #11 with my dad.
And boz one of your alltime favs is #20
I haven't looked at the list yet Rich. But before I do if the 1971 Nebraska vs. Oklahoma game isn't in at least the Top 10, if not the Top 5, I will piss on this list and all that made it! LOL
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history)
In the newest installment of ESPN's yearlong initiative marking 150 years of college football, we set out to rank the 150 greatest games in history.
A panel of 150 media members, athletic administrators and former players and coaches selected these games from 202 finalists initially identified by ESPN's Stats & Information group.
I remember several of them, and the usual suspects dominate the list, but a couple of outliers snuck through, and I was lucky enough to have attended #11 with my dad.
And boz one of your alltime favs is #20
It should have tied....
Best thing about that list is that, by my quick count, we.are 2 - 0 - 1, while Methchicken is 1 - 6 - 1. And one of those games has a highlight I post on Facebook twice every year: on the anniversary and just before the MSU/Methchicken game. Jalen Watts-Jackson never has to buy dinner in Phoenix.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history)
In the newest installment of ESPN's yearlong initiative marking 150 years of college football, we set out to rank the 150 greatest games in history.
A panel of 150 media members, athletic administrators and former players and coaches selected these games from 202 finalists initially identified by ESPN's Stats & Information group.
I remember several of them, and the usual suspects dominate the list, but a couple of outliers snuck through, and I was lucky enough to have attended #11 with my dad.
And boz one of your alltime favs is #20
I haven't looked at the list yet Rich. But before I do if the 1971 Nebraska vs. Oklahoma game isn't in at least the Top 10, if not the Top 5, I will piss on this list and all that made it! LOL
Your threatened widespread mictruition worked its magic.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history)
In the newest installment of ESPN's yearlong initiative marking 150 years of college football, we set out to rank the 150 greatest games in history.
A panel of 150 media members, athletic administrators and former players and coaches selected these games from 202 finalists initially identified by ESPN's Stats & Information group.
I remember several of them, and the usual suspects dominate the list, but a couple of outliers snuck through, and I was lucky enough to have attended #11 with my dad.
And boz one of your alltime favs is #20
I haven't looked at the list yet Rich. But before I do if the 1971 Nebraska vs. Oklahoma game isn't in at least the Top 10, if not the Top 5, I will piss on this list and all that made it! LOL
Cap-Lets just say that guys of a certain age will see some classic games from their youth and you won't be entirely disapponted.
But if you got go take a leak, I certainly understand, I feel like I piss all day.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history)
In the newest installment of ESPN's yearlong initiative marking 150 years of college football, we set out to rank the 150 greatest games in history.
A panel of 150 media members, athletic administrators and former players and coaches selected these games from 202 finalists initially identified by ESPN's Stats & Information group.
I remember several of them, and the usual suspects dominate the list, but a couple of outliers snuck through, and I was lucky enough to have attended #11 with my dad.
And boz one of your alltime favs is #20
I haven't looked at the list yet Rich. But before I do if the 1971 Nebraska vs. Oklahoma game isn't in at least the Top 10, if not the Top 5, I will piss on this list and all that made it! LOL
Cap-Lets just say that guys of a certain age will see some classic games from their youth and you won't be entirely disapponted.
But if you got go take a leak, I certainly understand, I feel like I piss all day.
Diabetes will do that to you.
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1969 Rose Bowl where tOSU rallied from a10-0 deficit against Heisman Tropy winner OJ Simpson and the mighty USC Trojans to cap an undefeated, undisputed National Championship?
NOT on the list!
It was the first time in the Rose Bowl history of contracted conferences to match the number 1and 2 ranked teams.
The list? Circular file.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history)
In the newest installment of ESPN's yearlong initiative marking 150 years of college football, we set out to rank the 150 greatest games in history.
A panel of 150 media members, athletic administrators and former players and coaches selected these games from 202 finalists initially identified by ESPN's Stats & Information group.
I remember several of them, and the usual suspects dominate the list, but a couple of outliers snuck through, and I was lucky enough to have attended #11 with my dad.
And boz one of your alltime favs is #20
I haven't looked at the list yet Rich. But before I do if the 1971 Nebraska vs. Oklahoma game isn't in at least the Top 10, if not the Top 5, I will piss on this list and all that made it! LOL
Your threatened widespread mictruition worked its magic.
I have to admit I have never heard that word before. Kinda pisses me off.
Seriously though, I remember watching that game as a young teenager. I was rooting for Oklahoma. I was, of course as the age inspires, devastated when it was over. I was a huge Greg Pruitt fan and had not as yet developed my affinity for defense. Needless to say I later became somewhat of the Cleveland Browns fan like my brother when Pruitt ended up on the Brownies. My Father, a staunch Giants fan was not amused.
Later as I learned the joy of destroying receivers and running backs, mostly receivers, that I developed my affinity for defense.
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/CFB150games/the-150-greatest-games-college-football-150-year-history)
In the newest installment of ESPN's yearlong initiative marking 150 years of college football, we set out to rank the 150 greatest games in history.
A panel of 150 media members, athletic administrators and former players and coaches selected these games from 202 finalists initially identified by ESPN's Stats & Information group.
I remember several of them, and the usual suspects dominate the list, but a couple of outliers snuck through, and I was lucky enough to have attended #11 with my dad.
And boz one of your alltime favs is #20
I haven't looked at the list yet Rich. But before I do if the 1971 Nebraska vs. Oklahoma game isn't in at least the Top 10, if not the Top 5, I will piss on this list and all that made it! LOL
Cap-Lets just say that guys of a certain age will see some classic games from their youth and you won't be entirely disapponted.
But if you got go take a leak, I certainly understand, I feel like I piss all day.
In the bathroom more, and it takes longer to get out. I gotcha.
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Willie Taggart is out at Florida State
as head coach.
Adults still not in charge at Florida State? or was it a political/revenge firing? ...same difference I guess.
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Willie Taggart is out at Florida State
as head coach.
Adults still not in charge at Florida State? or was it a political/revenge firing? ...same difference I guess.
Bad knee-jerk hire to begin with. Basically a .500 head coach wherever he was. Oregon was lucky to be shed of him.
Hire the Wake Forest guy.
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Willie Taggart is out at Florida State
as head coach.
Adults still not in charge at Florida State?
It’s a tough world. Clemson now rules the ACC, once dominated by the Seminoles, and home attendance is sinking toward mid-major numbers.
Possibilities?
Bob Stoops would be a good choice. He is in the XFL now but his legendary career at Oklahoma could soothe some of the hurt feelings of Taggart players and recruits. Plus Stoops is familiar with Florida.
His bother Mark is doing well at Kentucky and was an assistant for Jimbo Fisher. He may be inclined to leave second tier status in the SEC.
Up and comers could be PJ Fleck at Minnesota and Matt Campbell at Iowa State.
If the Seminole brass would like to tap an assistant coach the best would be Brent Venables at Clemson.
The advantage for Fla State is it is out in front on the annual coach search.
But when you fire a guy after only 21 games his successor is going to want not only a nice salary but a huge buyout package as well.
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Also, a good stable working relationship with your AD, which may be an issue with FSU.
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FSU gets to say “we tried to hire a black...,” shrug, done for the century now.
Which is sad because their program has more problems, one being #5 out recruiting them...
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FSU's problem is not ClemSIN outrecruiting them. ClemSIN outrecruits everyone. It is all the other teams.
jbot, bo and cap's syphlitic alter ego and any others with an irrational hatred of THE can take comfort in the knowledge that no team that has opened at #1 in the playoff rankings has ever won the playoffs. Those with an irrational hatred of Nick Satan, if there are any here, can take comfort in the idea that no team that has opened at 3 has ever made the playoffs.
But most interesting to me is that both Oregon and Utah are ahead of Oklahoma, at 7 and 8. At least 3 of the teams ahead of them will lose, so that 6 ranking is kind of the cusp of the playoffs. Granting that the Committee is not a poll and each week starts anew, but it is hard to see what Oklahoma does to get past them. Baylor is on the schedule at least once, and beating them potentially twice? But it looks like Utah and Oregon.have an edge if they hold serve.
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I think Ohio State will beat Penn State vaulting Clemson back into the Top 4, but then this is the year that Michigan will beat Ohio State reintroducing a bit of chaos into everything.
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FSU gets to say “we tried to hire a black...,” shrug, done for the century now.
Which is sad because their program has more problems, one being #5 out recruiting them...
Tough congested area to recruit in. And recruiting is even more brutal than it was 20 years ago in the State of Florida.
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FSU's problem is not ClemSIN outrecruiting them. ClemSIN outrecruits everyone. It is all the other teams.
jbot, bo and cap's syphlitic alter ego and any others with an irrational hatred of THE can take comfort in the knowledge that no team that has opened at #1 in the playoff rankings has ever won the playoffs. Those with an irrational hatred of Nick Satan, if there are any here, can take comfort in the idea that no team that has opened at 3 has ever made the playoffs.
But most interesting to me is that both Oregon and Utah are ahead of Oklahoma, at 7 and 8. At least 3 of the teams ahead of them will lose, so that 6 ranking is kind of the cusp of the playoffs. Granting that the Committee is not a poll and each week starts anew, but it is hard to see what Oklahoma does to get past them. Baylor is on the schedule at least once, and beating them potentially twice? But it looks like Utah and Oregon.have an edge if they hold serve.
I can assure you that my hatred of OSU is completely rational.
An I haven't seen Bosox in ages. You think he fell off of one of those Sierra Madre hills he likes to frequent? Got buried in an avalanche or taken away by Bigfoot to be his bride?
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But most interesting to me is that both Oregon and Utah are ahead of Oklahoma, at 7 and 8. At least 3 of the teams ahead of them will lose, so that 6 ranking is kind of the cusp of the playoffs. Granting that the Committee is not a poll and each week starts anew, but it is hard to see what Oklahoma does to get past them. Baylor is on the schedule at least once, and beating them potentially twice? But it looks like Utah and Oregon.have an edge if they hold serve.
BTW I had OSU at #1, you knew that if you've been paying attention.
But I also had/have Oregon ahead of Oklahoma. Not Utah though.
And IMO the committee has nothing to lose by putting Clemson at #5, and it makes them seem like they are actually using deductive reasoning if making their weekly picks. Bama/LSU will move the Tigers up anyways.
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We mentioned THE and got no response. If we mention Nabokov and he stays silent, he is dead.
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Difference between Florida State and ZeroState?
One has FIVE In-State competitors for recruiting, the other has Zero.
Guess which is which.
Very true. But to be fair(and I'm just guessing here) Florida produces about three times the 4-star and higher recruits that Ohio does. But still your point is well taken.
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Difference between Florida State and ZeroState?
One has FIVE In-State competitors for recruiting, the other has Zero.
Guess which is which.
Very true. But to be fair(and I'm just guessing here) Florida produces about three times the 4-star and higher recruits that Ohio does. But still your point is well taken.
The HS football strength of Ohio has always been in its Catholic schools and OSU always competes with Notre Dame for those kids. Also, Michigan State and Michigan have huge recruiting presences in the state.
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Difference between Florida State and ZeroState?
One has FIVE In-State competitors for recruiting, the other has Zero.
Guess which is which.
volume.
Very true. But to be fair(and I'm just guessing here) Florida produces about three times the 4-star and higher recruits that Ohio does. But still your point is well taken.
The HS football strength of Ohio has always been in its Catholic schools and OSU always competes with Notre Dame for those kids. Also, Michigan State and Michigan have huge recruiting presences in the state.
Also true.
Florida and Texas, maybe include Georgia and California, are the big boys when it comes to top shelf
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Difference between Florida State and ZeroState?
One has FIVE In-State competitors for recruiting, the other has Zero.
Guess which is which.
Very true. But to be fair(and I'm just guessing here) Florida produces about three times the 4-star and higher recruits that Ohio does. But still your point is well taken.
The HS football strength of Ohio has always been in its Catholic schools and OSU always competes with Notre Dame for those kids. Also, Michigan State and Michigan have huge recruiting presences in the state.
THE also competes nationally for players in a way FSU is having problems doing.
Also, there are two in state competitors for FSU competing for the same players as FSU. If you are counting Group of Five teams, THE has seven in state competitors, including at least one with a good chance to play in a NY 6 bowl. Trust that adled hose bag to try to stack the deck and get it wrong. 2 to 0 wasn't enough.
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Difference between Florida State and ZeroState?
One has FIVE In-State competitors for recruiting, the other has Zero.
Guess which is which.
Very true. But to be fair(and I'm just guessing here) Florida produces about three times the 4-star and higher recruits that Ohio does. But still your point is well taken.
The HS football strength of Ohio has always been in its Catholic schools and OSU always competes with Notre Dame for those kids. Also, Michigan State and Michigan have huge recruiting presences in the state.
THE also competes nationally for players in a way FSU is having problems doing.
Also, there are two in state competitors for FSU competing for the same players as FSU. If you are counting Group of Five teams, THE has seven in state competitors, including at least one with a good chance to play in a NY 6 bowl. Trust that adled hose bag to try to stack the deck and get it wrong. 2 to 0 wasn't enough.
Actually by FBS labels Ohio has 8 teams, Florida 7. Ohio has 12 million residents, Florida has 22 million.
Not only is the original argument mathematically wrong it is stupid.
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I'm fully aware of those schools and if you're going to correct me you should probably know that it's Glenville in Cleveland, not Grenville. I'd be happy, though, to amend "always" to "almost always." Unlike a lot of states, the Catholic and Public schools compete against each other in the state championships and in the largest division in the state I think the Catholic schools have won far more championships than the public schools.
I'd venture to say that both Michigan State and Michigan still have a quarter of their rosters coming from Ohio.
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Whenever I can help!!
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I'm fully aware of those schools and if you're going to correct me you should probably know that it's Glenville in Cleveland, not Grenville. I'd be happy, though, to amend "always" to "almost always." Unlike a lot of states, the Catholic and Public schools compete against each other in the state championships and in the largest division in the state I think the Catholic schools have won far more championships than the public schools.
I'd venture to say that both Michigan State and Michigan still have a quarter of their rosters coming from Ohio.
Thanks YG, for the spelling correction, RisqueNut would be so proud. I am well aware of the recruiting advantages that the Catholic schools have in the 7 divisions of Playoffs in Ohio.
That is a different but related issue to the discussion at hand.
Only an sun-baked brain like Risqué 's would think Kent State competes with ZeroState for talent.
Without looking I will guess Kentucky has more Ohioans on its rooster than the SpaTan Pansies.
Don't check yourself, let RisquéNut do the research for us.
Thanks again for the spelling correction.
I don't think Kent competes with THE. I also don't think Florida Atlantic competes with Florida, FSU or the U. Which was my point, though unsurprisingly that passed right by you.
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I suggest you find someone who says, I have offers from FSU, Florida and the U but I am going to Florida Atlantic because I like their weight room and 50 k seat stadium.
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Yes, just as soon as you correct THE JumboNut's 22 million Floridians vs Ohio's 12 million resident fallacy.
I'll wait.....
11.7 versus 21.3, not 12 to 22! Bad, jim. BAD!
You stupid, stupid senile ass.
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I suspect Deej knows the numbers, but feels that withou including Florida's huge elder population, the states' population totals are more in line.
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I suspect Deej knows the numbers, but feels that withou including Florida's huge elder population, the states' population totals are more in line.
I suspect he is just a Fucking Idiot and has no clue what he is talking about.
The only thing inaccurate about RedJim's post is he should have rounded down for
Florida's population.
There are a fair number of schools that share THE's advantage of being the only Power 5 school in the state. Which is why Rutgers has been so dominant over the years.
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I suspect Deej knows the numbers, but feels that withou including Florida's huge elder population, the states' population totals are more in line.
Apples to Orange Bowls.
Florida provides close to 12per cent of elite division one recruits.
Ohio slightly more than 3 per cent.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football-recruiting/2017/12/18/16780636/best-recruits-2019-state-rankings
(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football-recruiting/2017/12/18/16780636/best-recruits-2019-state-rankings)
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I suspect Deej knows the numbers, but feels that withou including Florida's huge elder population, the states' population totals are more in line.
YG, stating the obvious usually isn't necessary when talking to reasonably, intelligent people.
But, dealing with THE Stupid Twins, Steve and JimboNuts, the obvious becomes an unfathomable mystery.
You are kind to help them out; I enjoy watching them swim in their own ignorance.
According to High-Schools.com, Florida (2018 numbers) is the third largest state for High School students at 2,255,540. Ohio is 8th at 1,294,260. Which is fairly close to the proportion of the overall population. If your head came to more of a point it would pierce through your hats.
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Now, divide the first number by 3 and the second number by 1
Next.
And.you get roughly the same.percentage as you do for the general population cited by RedJim which is the number you are arguing about you stupid, stupid man.
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When you get your StupidTwin's head out of your ass, let me know, then we'll run the numbers for Texas, you sniveling,cowardly piece of dung.
Try to stick to your own argument you stupid stupid man.
To try to denigrate THE compared to FSU you posited six schools for FSU to none competing with THE for recruits, which is wrong no matter how you look at it, and when RedJim pointed out the population disparity seemed to think his numbers were somehow wrong when they were a rounding error from being right. You grasped at yankguy's lifeline about the stereotype of old Floridians - which I am morally certain you had not even thought of before.reading yankbuy's post - but that also was also wrong, since the ratio of high school students in the two states is very close to the ratio of the population generally. And now you bring up Texas? I bet you have no clue why Texas is relevant to the THE/FSU comparison, and why Texas (among other states) explains why THE is traditionally a powerhouse while other single P5 state schools struggle.
Here are some stats to think about to the extent you are capable of thinking:
Passing: 3/3, 74 yards, 1 touchdown.
Rushing: 13 carries, 47 yards, 0 touchdowns.
Receiving: 11 catches, 111 yards, 1 touchdown.
That is barely a half of offense for THE.
Of the Top 11 tacklers on defense:
57 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 0 picks, 0 recoveries. Most of that is from one.player, Malik Harrison.
That is THE's Ohio production. They are great this year for the reason they are great every year: they get top recruits from Texas (Dobbins, Okudah) and Georgia (Fields) and Maryland (Young) and New Jersey and California. It is not the lock on Ohio. They are one of a gandful of schools kids across the country want to play for. So is Alabama. FSU no longer is.
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I sense I did not say "you stupid,.stupid man" enough in that post. Please mentally add where appropriate.
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Bullies are attracted to places where inequality is the greatest.
Same as always in THE BiG Whatever.
Methchicken has had the same national cachet without the results you stupid stupid man.
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Breaking news: The Big Bad BuckNuts will play an SEC team in the regular season
for the first time since 1988 in the 2030 season!
Bold move for the chickenShit BuckNuts from ZeroState.
That should take care of the rest of the 21st century vs THE SEC.
Meanwhile the chickenShit Bullpuppies will play a Big 10 team in the regular season for the first time since 1965. Bold move for the pussies from Georgia. Should take care of the rest of the 21st Century vs the Big 10. You stupid, stupid man.
2031 will also be only the second time Georgia has played north of the Mason Dixon in 50 years. Cowards.
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Georgia in real conference with real competitive teams.
ZeroState NOT.
Still losing, better let your StupidTwin take over for you, you sound very weak and dumber than usual.
Next.
You stupid, stupid man.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
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Difference between Florida State and ZeroState?
One has FIVE In-State competitors for recruiting, the other has Zero.
Guess which is which.
Very true. But to be fair(and I'm just guessing here) Florida produces about three times the 4-star and higher recruits that Ohio does. But still your point is well taken.
The HS football strength of Ohio has always been in its Catholic schools and OSU always competes with Notre Dame for those kids. Also, Michigan State and Michigan have huge recruiting presences in the state.
THE also competes nationally for players in a way FSU is having problems doing.
Also, there are two in state competitors for FSU competing for the same players as FSU. If you are counting Group of Five teams, THE has seven in state competitors, including at least one with a good chance to play in a NY 6 bowl. Trust that adled hose bag to try to stack the deck and get it wrong. 2 to 0 wasn't enough.
Another good point. Clemson also does a good job of getting top players from different states as it's well known that has been Nicky's forte for years.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
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Difference between Florida State and ZeroState?
One has FIVE In-State competitors for recruiting, the other has Zero.
Guess which is which.
Very true. But to be fair(and I'm just guessing here) Florida produces about three times the 4-star and higher recruits that Ohio does. But still your point is well taken.
The HS football strength of Ohio has always been in its Catholic schools and OSU always competes with Notre Dame for those kids. Also, Michigan State and Michigan have huge recruiting presences in the state.
THE also competes nationally for players in a way FSU is having problems doing.
Also, there are two in state competitors for FSU competing for the same players as FSU. If you are counting Group of Five teams, THE has seven in state competitors, including at least one with a good chance to play in a NY 6 bowl. Trust that adled hose bag to try to stack the deck and get it wrong. 2 to 0 wasn't enough.
Actually Florida State has six Div 1A competitors. So six/seven not so much difference. The key is what YG touched on outside competitors. I that regard I feel that Florida with its vastly(yes vastly) larger talent pool to draw from gets the most sharks swimming in it's waters. So in that regard D.J. would have a valid point.
I think if you went and looked at it, and I haven't, you would find a goodly diversity of Florida players/prospects on many more teams outside the state than you would see Ohio player/prospects. I guess if I did a study on how many 4-Star and above were on teams outside the state and how many were inside the state. And then did a study of how many Ohio 4-Star and above were outside the state or even inside the state and NOT on OSU I would firmly believe the result in percentages would highly favor the Buckeyes keeping their top talent in state and on OSU. But I'm just too old and lazy to do it.
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(..tOSU is) great this year for the reason they are great every year: they get top recruits from Texas (Dobbins, Okudah) and Georgia (Fields) and Maryland (Young) and New Jersey and California. It is not the lock on Ohio. They are one of a handful of schools kids across the country want to play for. So is Alabama. FSU no longer is.
At the turn of the century abou 55-60 per cent of the top recruits stayed in -state to play college football. Now it is almost completely different with per cent of top recruits going out-of-state reaching or surpassing 60 per cent. This reflects the world we live in with every college game being televised and the influence of YouTube, Twitter, the Internet and on.
If you want to predict success of a program start by ranking each school’s recruiting budget.
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Difference between Florida State and ZeroState?
One has FIVE In-State competitors for recruiting, the other has Zero.
Guess which is which.
Very true. But to be fair(and I'm just guessing here) Florida produces about three times the 4-star and higher recruits that Ohio does. But still your point is well taken.
The HS football strength of Ohio has always been in its Catholic schools and OSU always competes with Notre Dame for those kids. Also, Michigan State and Michigan have huge recruiting presences in the state.
THE also competes nationally for players in a way FSU is having problems doing.
Also, there are two in state competitors for FSU competing for the same players as FSU. If you are counting Group of Five teams, THE has seven in state competitors, including at least one with a good chance to play in a NY 6 bowl. Trust that adled hose bag to try to stack the deck and get it wrong. 2 to 0 wasn't enough.
Actually Florida State has six Div 1A competitors. So six/seven not so much difference. The key is what YG touched on outside competitors. I that regard I feel that Florida with its vastly(yes vastly) larger talent pool to draw from gets the most sharks swimming in it's waters. So in that regard D.J. would have a valid point.
I think if you went and looked at it, and I haven't, you would find a goodly diversity of Florida players/prospects on many more teams outside the state than you would see Ohio player/prospects. I guess if I did a study on how many 4-Star and above were on teams outside the state and how many were inside the state. And then did a study of how many Ohio 4-Star and above were outside the state or even inside the state and NOT on OSU I would firmly believe the result in percentages would highly favor the Buckeyes keeping their top talent in state and on OSU. But I'm just too old and lazy to do it.
THE does have the advantage of being the only Power 5 school in Ohio, when it comes to Ohio recruits. The issue is, that advantage does not matter as much any more. Without doing a deep dive into it THE probably has more significant players from Florida than it does from Ohio on its current roster. Back when you and I were being recruited by major Universities we saw and were familiar with schools in our states and our region. Now, they see everyone every week. Super programs recruit nationally.
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(..tOSU is) great this year for the reason they are great every year: they get top recruits from Texas (Dobbins, Okudah) and Georgia (Fields) and Maryland (Young) and New Jersey and California. It is not the lock on Ohio. They are one of a handful of schools kids across the country want to play for. So is Alabama. FSU no longer is.
At the turn of the century abou 55-60 per cent of the top recruits stayed in -state to play college football. Now it is almost completely different with per cent of top recruits going out-of-state reaching or surpassing 60 per cent. This reflects the world we live in with every college game being televised and the influence of YouTube, Twitter, the Internet and on.
If you want to predict success of a program start by ranking each school’s recruiting budget.
I think switching from Tressell to Meyer had something to do with the change, at least for THE. Tressell was hired in part because Cooper was not getting Ohio players to stay home. Tressell had spent years at YSU romancing in state coaches to get and identify second tier players for YSU. But the times have changed, and THE has changed.
THE's current roster depending so heavily on out of state talent is more pronounced than it has been even recently. 5 of the 14 first round draft choices from THE in the Meyer era were Ohio kids.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
Per Young, a loan from a.friend that he paid back over the summer. He will probably sit additional time after.this weekend.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
whats the outrage/umbrage #
how big was the loan?
a couple hundred bucks, well ok, a kid needs some dough for taking his best girl out after the big game.
But if its sizable dough...
and where did he get the dough to pay back the loan, was it from an adavance of a commission at his no show job down at Auto-World of Colunbus?
Couldn't he get a loan from Deutsche Bank?
They'll lend to anybody.
Evn dead-beat grifters with a long history of defaults.
I'm just heartened THE is investigating THE matter.
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BuckNuts fans have nothing to worry about. The NCAA in Indianapolis worships the ground the
BuckNuts piss on. So a slap on the wrist will more than suffice.
Any other school would have to vacate the games won this season.
ZeroState is too big to be penalized properly.
No worries, Nuts!
Todd Gurley sat 4.games for taking a loan from an agent. Nothing happened to Georgia for the same reason nothing will happen to THE you stupid, stupid man.
At least he did not borrow his coach's dilapidated Subaru. That would have been serious trouble.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
whats the outrage/umbrage #
how big was the loan?
a couple hundred bucks, well ok, a kid needs some dough for taking his best girl out after the big game.
But if its sizable dough...
and where did he get the dough to pay back the loan, was it from an adavance of a commission at his no show job down at Auto-World of Colunbus?
Couldn't he get a loan from Deutsche Bank?
They'll lend to anybody.
Evn dead-beat grifters with a long history of defaults.
I'm just heartened THE is investigating THE matter.
I believe Maryland alum yankguy was responding to the second part of my post.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
whats the outrage/umbrage #
how big was the loan?
a couple hundred bucks, well ok, a kid needs some dough for taking his best girl out after the big game.
But if its sizable dough...
and where did he get the dough to pay back the loan, was it from an adavance of a commission at his no show job down at Auto-World of Colunbus?
Couldn't he get a loan from Deutsche Bank?
They'll lend to anybody.
Evn dead-beat grifters with a long history of defaults.
I'm just heartened THE is investigating THE matter.
Banks, You would think the greatest football player ever with millions coming his way could get
a line of credit at the local credit union, No?
That would be a clear violation of NCAA rules you stupid, stupid man.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
whats the outrage/umbrage #
how big was the loan?
a couple hundred bucks, well ok, a kid needs some dough for taking his best girl out after the big game.
But if its sizable dough...
and where did he get the dough to pay back the loan, was it from an adavance of a commission at his no show job down at Auto-World of Colunbus?
Couldn't he get a loan from Deutsche Bank?
They'll lend to anybody.
Evn dead-beat grifters with a long history of defaults.
I'm just heartened THE is investigating THE matter.
I believe Maryland alum yankguy was responding to the second part of my post.
Yes.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
whats the outrage/umbrage #
how big was the loan?
a couple hundred bucks, well ok, a kid needs some dough for taking his best girl out after the big game.
But if its sizable dough...
and where did he get the dough to pay back the loan, was it from an adavance of a commission at his no show job down at Auto-World of Colunbus?
Couldn't he get a loan from Deutsche Bank?
They'll lend to anybody.
Evn dead-beat grifters with a long history of defaults.
I'm just heartened THE is investigating THE matter.
I believe Maryland alum yankguy was responding to the second part of my post.
Boz I understood your point about THE's timing the penalty on itself (and referred to it in my post).
No one can accuse THE of turtling!!!
Harrumph!
Serious question re athletes and loans.
Can student athletes have credit cards and if yes are they strictly limited as to lines and the ability to borrow against the line?
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
whats the outrage/umbrage #
how big was the loan?
a couple hundred bucks, well ok, a kid needs some dough for taking his best girl out after the big game.
But if its sizable dough...
and where did he get the dough to pay back the loan, was it from an adavance of a commission at his no show job down at Auto-World of Colunbus?
Couldn't he get a loan from Deutsche Bank?
They'll lend to anybody.
Evn dead-beat grifters with a long history of defaults.
I'm just heartened THE is investigating THE matter.
I believe Maryland alum yankguy was responding to the second part of my post.
Boz I understood your point about THE's timing the penalty on itself (and referred to it in my post).
No one can accuse THE of turtling!!!
Harrumph!
Serious question re athletes and loans.
Can student athletes have credit cards and if yes are they strictly limited as to lines and the ability to borrow against the line?
They can get benefits available to anyone else on the same terms available to anyone else.
Despite my joke, the timing of Young's suspension is tied.to when THE learned of it. Aside from putting NCAA enforcement in the hands of a stupid stupid man the only way THE gets in trouble for this would be if they continued to play him after learning of the issue.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
whats the outrage/umbrage #
how big was the loan?
a couple hundred bucks, well ok, a kid needs some dough for taking his best girl out after the big game.
But if its sizable dough...
and where did he get the dough to pay back the loan, was it from an adavance of a commission at his no show job down at Auto-World of Colunbus?
Couldn't he get a loan from Deutsche Bank?
They'll lend to anybody.
Evn dead-beat grifters with a long history of defaults.
I'm just heartened THE is investigating THE matter.
I believe Maryland alum yankguy was responding to the second part of my post.
Boz I understood your point about THE's timing the penalty on itself (and referred to it in my post).
No one can accuse THE of turtling!!!
Harrumph!
Serious question re athletes and loans.
Can student athletes have credit cards and if yes are they strictly limited as to lines and the ability to borrow against the line?
They can get benefits available to anyone else on the same terms available to anyone else.
Despite my joke, the timing of Young's suspension is tied.to when THE learned of it. Aside from putting NCAA enforcement in the hands of a stupid stupid man the only way THE gets in trouble for this would be if they continued to play him after learning of the issue.
Just to clarify, so Deej's comment about the kid getting a line of credit at a local financial institution would be fine, as long as said FI, made loans/lines avaialble to other students. And if said FI made a loan based on sound underwriting standards, it could theoretically lend a student-athlete a large amount based on what he/she could pay back based on presumably future earnings, and in this case, the future earnings of a likely 1st round draft pick.
As an aside I don't keep up with college scandals as much as I used to. as I've discovered other areas to take umbrage with.
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Chase Young out for the Maryland game due to an unspecified NCAA issue.dating back to last year.
One way you know your team sucks: other teams choose your game to discipline player for events dating back a year.
I'm past the point of taking umbrage.
whats the outrage/umbrage #
how big was the loan?
a couple hundred bucks, well ok, a kid needs some dough for taking his best girl out after the big game.
But if its sizable dough...
and where did he get the dough to pay back the loan, was it from an adavance of a commission at his no show job down at Auto-World of Colunbus?
Couldn't he get a loan from Deutsche Bank?
They'll lend to anybody.
Evn dead-beat grifters with a long history of defaults.
I'm just heartened THE is investigating THE matter.
I believe Maryland alum yankguy was responding to the second part of my post.
Boz I understood your point about THE's timing the penalty on itself (and referred to it in my post).
No one can accuse THE of turtling!!!
Harrumph!
Serious question re athletes and loans.
Can student athletes have credit cards and if yes are they strictly limited as to lines and the ability to borrow against the line?
They can get benefits available to anyone else on the same terms available to anyone else.
Despite my joke, the timing of Young's suspension is tied.to when THE learned of it. Aside from putting NCAA enforcement in the hands of a stupid stupid man the only way THE gets in trouble for this would be if they continued to play him after learning of the issue.
Just to clarify, so Deej's comment about the kid getting a line of credit at a local financial institution would be fine, as long as said FI, made loans/lines avaialble to other students. And if said FI made a loan based on sound underwriting standards, it could theoretically lend a student-athlete a large amount based on what he/she could pay back based on presumably future earnings, and in this case, the future earnings of a likely 1st round draft pick.
As an aside I don't keep up with college scandals as much as I used to. as I've discovered other areas to take umbrage with.
Yes. It.was that stupid stupid man's introduction of the potential of a player in the future earning millions of dollars into the equation that made it an NCAA violation. He is often too stupid to understand his own arguments. No disrespect meant, but it must suck to be that stupid.
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Harry Lime wrote:
I think switching from Tressell to Meyer had something to do with the change, at least for THE. Tressell was hired in part because Cooper was not getting Ohio players to stay home. Tressell had spent years at YSU romancing in state coaches to get and identify second tier players for YSU. But the times have changed, and THE has changed.
Meyer changed the Big Ten Recruiting posture thanks, in part, to influx of money the conference enjoys from the Big Ten Network. His success won a NC and makes him the most “ rumored nex hire” every time a job opening stirs twitter talk.
But his success has some drawbacks to schools hunting for a coach.
Namely; $$$ .
Florida State says it has no interest.
USC was reported to have named a new Athletic Director last week, Mike Bohn from Cincinnati .
But Bohn is having second thoughts, according to sources.
The word is new USC president Carol Folt informed Bohn he would not be able to hire Urban Meyer as the next football coach. That is considered a dealbreaker for Bohn,according to news sources who reported Bohn informed USC of his decision but sources said university officials are still talking to him so the situation could still go either way.
Several athletic directors turned the job down because they were told Meyer was not an option, sources said. Bohn apparently was not informed until after he agreed to take the job.
It looks like the combination of a high salary along with meeting Meyer’s budget needs for recruiting
May not sit well for PAC 12 and other conferences that don’t have a cash cow like the Big Ten Network. Just a thought.
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when you fire a guy after only 21 games his successor is going to want not only a nice salary but a huge buyout package as well.
It will certainly give the next guy pause
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With the rainy season approaching, I'm going to need a replacement umbrage soon.
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I suspect Deej knows the numbers, but feels that withou including Florida's huge elder population, the states' population totals are more in line.
I suspect he is just a Fucking Idiot and has no clue what he is talking about.
The only thing inaccurate about RedJim's post is he should have rounded down for
Florida's population.
There are a fair number of schools that share THE's advantage of being the only Power 5 school in the state. Which is why Rutgers has been so dominant over the years.
2021 Florida RIVALS has the state at 35 four star and higher prospects. Ohio has 8.
Doing the actual "MATH" that would put the ratio at a little over 4-1. Which somewhat belies the population difference of roughly 2-1 the Skippy interjected as being relevant.
Please don't make me go and find out the math about how many leave the state of Florida as compared to Ohio.
I think the bottom line is as someone, I forget who, suggested that going out of State is a big factor for some of these schools and Florida State doesn't seem to do that very well.
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I suspect Deej knows the numbers, but feels that withou including Florida's huge elder population, the states' population totals are more in line.
I suspect he is just a Fucking Idiot and has no clue what he is talking about.
The only thing inaccurate about RedJim's post is he should have rounded down for
Florida's population.
There are a fair number of schools that share THE's advantage of being the only Power 5 school in the state. Which is why Rutgers has been so dominant over the years.
2021 Florida RIVALS has the state at 35 four star and higher prospects. Ohio has 8.
Doing the actual "MATH" that would put the ratio at a little over 4-1. Which somewhat belies the population difference of roughly 2-1 the Skippy interjected as being relevant.
The two ratios are not comparable. Florida’s advantage over Ohio is the result of having twice the number of High School football players. Obviously it would have more superior players (at least on paper).
But it is a far cry from citing potential future players in stead of tracking what actually happened.
When you do that the numbers are different, but consistent.
Share of Blue Chip Recruits-SB Nation
State '17 '16 '15 '14 '13
Texas 14.2% 15.3% 13.7% 11.6% 14.1%
Florida 12.7% 13.9% 14.6% 13.2% 14.1%
California 10.6% 13.3% 12.9% 10.7% 12.6%
Georgia 10.0% 7.7% 9.9% 7.2% 7.7%
Ohio 4.8% 3.5% 5.0% 4.7% 5.8%
Alabama 4.5% 2.4% 3.5% 3.4% 4.0%
Virginia 4.5% 1.8%. 3.8% 3.1% 4.0%
Louisiana 3.6% 6.2% 3.8% 5.0% 3.7%
Michigan 3.0% 2.7%. 1.2% 1.3
It is isn’t Rocket Science to infer that to win consistently you need to recruit globally, especially given the built in geographical advantage in place for the SEC and the PAC 12.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football-recruiting/2016/6/28/12040586/rankings-state-stars-florida-texas-california
(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football-recruiting/2016/6/28/12040586/rankings-state-stars-florida-texas-california)
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Number Munchers, lol, I don’t do down like that...
Love this Ohio Rep: “That was just Stroussy bing Stroussy...”—abbberant tOSU sex deviant/pedophile, dead, self-righteous suicide...
Well played, tOSU, SWEATINVEST era, shockmode, where does the Clorox come in???
Well, too late now, great big yuck, for decades or since statehood, sorry limey, you are one of the good ones, I presume you didn’t officiate??
Pathetic.
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Number Munchers, lol, I don’t do down like that...
Love this Ohio Rep: “That was just Stroussy bing Stroussy...”—abbberant tOSU sex deviant/pedophile, dead, self-righteous suicide...
Well played, tOSU, SWEATINVEST era, shockmode, where does the Clorox come in???
Well, too late now, great big yuck, for decades or since statehood, sorry limey, you are one of the good ones, I presume you didn’t officiate??
Pathetic.
On the positive side, it.gave Jordan practice at ignoring abhorrent behavior.
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Sandusky State on the ropes with Goldfers...
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Maryland is winning the turnover battle in Columbus.
My little joke immediately went south.
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Ohio State has a punter? Who knew.
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Oooooooh cap...
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Moving Day.
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I suspect Deej knows the numbers, but feels that withou including Florida's huge elder population, the states' population totals are more in line.
I suspect he is just a Fucking Idiot and has no clue what he is talking about.
The only thing inaccurate about RedJim's post is he should have rounded down for
Florida's population.
There are a fair number of schools that share THE's advantage of being the only Power 5 school in the state. Which is why Rutgers has been so dominant over the years.
2021 Florida RIVALS has the state at 35 four star and higher prospects. Ohio has 8.
Doing the actual "MATH" that would put the ratio at a little over 4-1. Which somewhat belies the population difference of roughly 2-1 the Skippy interjected as being relevant.
The two ratios are not comparable. Florida’s advantage over Ohio is the result of having twice the number of High School football players. Obviously it would have more superior players (at least on paper).
But it is a far cry from citing potential future players in stead of tracking what actually happened.
When you do that the numbers are different, but consistent.
Share of Blue Chip Recruits-SB Nation
State '17 '16 '15 '14 '13
Texas 14.2% 15.3% 13.7% 11.6% 14.1%
Florida 12.7% 13.9% 14.6% 13.2% 14.1%
California 10.6% 13.3% 12.9% 10.7% 12.6%
Georgia 10.0% 7.7% 9.9% 7.2% 7.7%
Ohio 4.8% 3.5% 5.0% 4.7% 5.8%
Alabama 4.5% 2.4% 3.5% 3.4% 4.0%
Virginia 4.5% 1.8%. 3.8% 3.1% 4.0%
Louisiana 3.6% 6.2% 3.8% 5.0% 3.7%
Michigan 3.0% 2.7%. 1.2% 1.3
It is isn’t Rocket Science to infer that to win consistently you need to recruit globally, especially given the built in geographical advantage in place for the SEC and the PAC 12.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football-recruiting/2016/6/28/12040586/rankings-state-stars-florida-texas-california
(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football-recruiting/2016/6/28/12040586/rankings-state-stars-florida-texas-california)
Twice the number of high school football players doesn't equate to 4-1 any more than twice the population. Maybe someone else will explain it to you.
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Oooooooh cap...
The other day I called the Gophers a pretty decent team. PSU was obviously overrated.
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I don't want to KoD anything, but Trump couldn't carry Alabama?
Maybe he can call the Russians to help out.
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The Alabama locker room at half time is going to be an interesting place.
An Illinois player was ejected for punching an MSU player in the ass. That is a free shot for anyone who wants it.
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The Alabama locker room at half time is going to be an interesting place.
An Illinois player was ejected for punching an MSU player in the ass. That is a free shot for anyone who wants it.
I thought it was the Macedonians who attacked from the rear.
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LSU offense looking badass.
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LSU = National Champ
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The Alabama locker room at half time is going to be an interesting place.
An Illinois player was ejected for punching an MSU player in the ass. That is a free shot for anyone who wants it.
I thought it was the Macedonians who attacked from the rear.
Disappointing.
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That’s how Spartans like it anyway? Not a foul?
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One riot, one rump ranger?
You ever *hear* that?
I think we went to different schools.
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However, Joe couldn’t lay almost half a hundo on CLEM. No fucking way and you all know it.
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I still have ClemSIN as my champion.
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I blame Joe Bachie.
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Don’t know the reference.
This feels like an *adrenaline* year.
Like whoever can get good and *pissed* and again after the half, will win.
But maybe it was always so.
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whole lotta football tonight in Tuscaloosa
great game
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And I’m not trying to be profound, I just can’t figure out how UNC beats COCK beats UGGA
UNC loses APP
COCK blown out TN
Seems like a strange year.
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Don’t know the reference.
Dont worry. I do.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
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The Alabama locker room at half time is going to be an interesting place.
An Illinois player was ejected for punching an MSU player in the ass. That is a free shot for anyone who wants it.
I thought it was the Macedonians who attacked from the rear.
Disappointing.
Not from the Macedonians perspective.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
I was thinking who cares?
Along the lines of the tree in the forest when no one is there when it falls.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
’ Bama now joins a list of one loss teams. I think the Tide faithful are rooting hard for LSU to dominate opponents the rest of the regular season.
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Joe Burrow may have put a lock on the Heisman in Tuscaloosa today.
His high school career culminated in the honor of being named Mr. Ohio as the top college recruit.
Apropos of our recruiting discussion this week can anyone name the last Mr. Ohio to win the Heisman?
No googling allowed.
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ET phone home
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
Meant to say the Committee poll.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
I think Bama needs a lot of help now.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
I was thinking who cares?
Along the lines of the tree in the forest when no one is there when it falls.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
’ Bama now joins a list of one loss teams. I think the Tide faithful are rooting hard for LSU to dominate opponents the rest of the regular season.
Okay SKIPPY doesn't care. I expect we won't hear from him for the rest of the season including the playoffs then.
Neat.
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The last Mr.Ohio(aka Mr. Football) to win the Heisman was Charles Woodson.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
I think Bama needs a lot of help now.
Good thing Trump's in town, he'll get Federal disaster aide and paper towels to wipe up the flood of tears in Tuscaloosa.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
I was thinking who cares?
Along the lines of the tree in the forest when no one is there when it falls.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
’ Bama now joins a list of one loss teams. I think the Tide faithful are rooting hard for LSU to dominate opponents the rest of the regular season.
Okay SKIPPY doesn't care.
The best hope of Alabama is for LSU to be number one in Committee rankings.
That’s a fact.
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So, Tlaw running at will, Heisman who??
Give me a break.
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Nobody does it better
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Imagine if you will, Peyton with two feet, sick.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
I think Bama needs a lot of help now.
Good thing Trump's in town, he'll get Federal disaster aide and paper towels to wipe up the flood of tears in Tuscaloosa.
I am glad he was able to go to Alabama and see its recovery from the devastating effects of Hurricane Dorian.
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Week 11 Notes
LSU’s win
The 46-41 drubbing of the Tide was the worst loss for Nick Saban at Alabama.
It could have been worse. Up 46-34 with 2 minutes to go the Tigers opted to forgo a prevent defense and ‘Bama scored on an 85 yard run.
Get set for an Alabama spin of “ only” losing by five to number 1.
BTW, Saban is now 0-2 against OSU back-up quarterbacks. :)
Minnesota is 9-0 for the first time since 1904.
Saturday’s 31-26 win vs. No. 4 Penn State was the Gophers’ first win against an AP top-10 team since 2000 and first home win against a top-10 team since 1977.
Penn State second guessing.
It was not Penn State’s finest performance. The Lions were 2-6 in TDS in the red zone. At the end of the first half with no timeouts PSU was inside the ten and hurried a fourth down call. Which was an incomplete pass. Had they taken 3 that big second half comeback would have set them up for a winning field goal instead of needing a TD on the last drive.
Wake Forest’s loss to Va.Tech cost it a shot(albeit a long one) at an ACC Atlantic Division title which could have been decided next week against Clemson. Instead CLEMSON clinched beating NC STATE.
But the Deacons’ loss also put another chink in Clemson’s woeful SOS.
If Wake drops out of the top 25 that will leave Clemson with no top 25 wins( along with Alabama).
What a Parlay
All nine active division one teams in Louisiana won yesterday.
LSU, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana Lafayette, Louisiana Monroe, Northwestern State, Nicholls, Southern, Grambling State and Southeastern Louisiana.
First time ever.
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Burrow started for LSU in 2018, so that is at least one win against former OSU backups.
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Burrow started for LSU in 2018, so that is at least one win against former OSU backups.
You are correct. My bad for forgetting that.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
I was thinking who cares?
Along the lines of the tree in the forest when no one is there when it falls.
Also,.for those who want two God's Conference teams in the playoffs, today was the best result: Putting an Alabama team with a close loss to the topish team up against one loss champs for that last slot.
’ Bama now joins a list of one loss teams. I think the Tide faithful are rooting hard for LSU to dominate opponents the rest of the regular season.
Okay SKIPPY doesn't care.
The best hope of Alabama is for LSU to be number one in Committee rankings.
That’s a fact.
Quiet. You don't care. Go to the knitting forum.
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Wake Forest did drop out of the top 25 after losing to Virginia Tech.
That’s to the immediate benefit of 7-2 Indiana who did not play yesterday and moved from unranked to # 24, one of 7 B1G teams in the AP Top 25.
Next week the Hoosiers travel to Happy Valley where now # 9 Penn State will be trying to avenge a loss to Minnesota and keep its division and CFP hopes alive.
The Gophers are in rarefied air (number 7) and will play #23 Iowa next week on the road with a two game lead over the Hawkeyes and Wisconsin in the West Division.
Oklahoma (10) dropped a spot even though it beat unranked Iowa State. But the Sooners could have easily lost after blowing a 3 touchdown lead. Iowa State spurned OT and gambled on a 2 point conversion in the waning seconds and lost. The Sooners go to Waco to meet #12 Baylor( undefeated) this week. The Two teams may meet again in the Big 12 Championship.
Other games with ranked teams as opponents:
GEORGIA #5 at AUBURN #12
NAVY #21 at NOTRE DAME #16
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Chad Morris fired at Arkansas. A God's Conference team getting blown out by Western Ken Fucking Tuckey will do that to you. Word is that Paul Chryst is atop their wish list.
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Oh! Those “ sure things” bets.
With about a minute to go in the Baylor/TCU game the Horned Frogs led 9-6.
The over/under on the game was 51
Baylor ties the game with a 51 yard field goal.
3 Ot’s later the Bears win 29-23.
The over/under becomes 52.
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Chad Morris fired at Arkansas. A God's Conference team getting blown out by Western Ken Fucking Tuckey will do that to you. Word is that Paul Chryst is atop their wish list.
I think in this age the scouts are just as important as the head coach. While teams at the top are just cherry picking the best players, the lower echelon guys need to do a better job of evaluating and developing the so-called three stars. So many teams out there these days are just content to rely on the ranking services to formulate their pick lists. If you're going to get the leavings, then get the best of them.
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Chad Morris fired at Arkansas. Word is that Paul Chryst is atop their wish list.
LOL!
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Forgot to mention: my favorite moment from last week's games came at the end of the LSU/Bama game when future Heisman Trophy winner Joe Burrow took a knee, and then handed the ball to Clyde Edwards-Helaire. Nice show of appreciation.
So LSU, THE, and ClemSIN in that order tonight. Probably Alabama at four. The time for Minnesota or Baylor or Oregon or Utah or Oklahoma or Georgia to pass them is at the end, when those teams are conference champions, not now. I think Oklahoma is looking like the one loss team out, even if they beat Baylor twice. They almost blew a three touchdown lead to a mediocre team. What kind of shitty team does that?
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Pinstripe Bowl Bound Michigan State 31, Methchicken 13
Fuck it. Just… fuck it. Even I don’t believe this but I will put on the show nevertheless.
THE 56, or However Many Points They Want to Score, Rutgers 0
As one of the preview articles I read put it, this game may not be suitable for younger viewers. If Rutgers is not the worst Power 5 team in CFB, they are the worst Power 5 team that does not have a pig on their helmet. If THE is not the best Power 5 team, they are the best Power 5 team without a tiger mascot. Word is THE is asking the NCAA to immediately reinstate Chase Young, but I think he could miss this game without damaging THE’s title hopes. Actually, THE’s entire first team, offensively and defensively, could miss this game without damaging THE’s title hopes.
Minnesota 20, Iowa 17
Getting Iowa coming off the emotional high of the the Pennsylvania State University win and a couple weeks before the Wisky showdown is a tough one. Iowa has a stout defense capable of shutting the Rodents down. Of course, I thought that about the Pennsylvania State also. Future the Florida State/USC head coach PJ Fleck gets his kids prepared, and they have to know that winning this game essentially puts them in Indianapolis in December. I have had this penciled in as a loss for the Rodents all year, but I am on them now. So… Congratulations Iowa!
Oklahoma 42, Baylor 13
Baylor has been fortunate to get through North Appalachia School of Applied Technology and TCU the last two weeks. Yes, I know Oklahoma has looked nothing like a top team the last two weeks, but I think Lincoln Riley gets the team back on beam.
ClemSIN 47, WTFU 13
ClemSIN continues to pay a ranking and committee price for the fact that the entire South Atlantic Conference is, well, the CFB equivalent of the South Atlantic Conference. Woke’s loss to VTU pretty much ended the chance that ClemSIN will have played anyone ranked all year – unless they lose this game. Which would make it hard to come back from a loss if they were to lose this game. Which they won’t. They won’t lose any game. All year. Repeat baby. Note the unease felt by those who thought Jennifer Lawrence was playing below his freshman year has been calmed. ClemSIN has put the early season doldrums behind them.
Alabama 49, the Old Missississippi State 7
Alabama’s defense is having issues; you cannot constantly reload when your entire defense goes pro and not pay some price. On the other hand… not a good week to be in the Alabama practices, which means not a good week to be Miss State. I suspect a frustration or two will be worked out.
the Louisiana State 45, Missississippi 13
I think ClemSIN is the best team in the country, and the THE is right behind them, but there is no denying LSU has played the best ball all year, factoring in schedule. Miss is bad, but not quite name the score bad. The 13 is the extent I am willing to go on the “looking past the game, coming off a high” line, if only because no one is looking past anyone to Arkansas.
Georgia 24, Auburn 17
I’m tempted to call the upset, based on that Jordan Hare magic, but just can’t put enough trust in the frosh quarterback. I wonder if Georgia is having second thoughts about just who their quarterback should have been. Fields has outshone Fromm to date, and I am not all that sure Eason has not been his equal. Still, Georgia has an overall strong team, and should handle the War Damn Eagles. Hey, whatever happened to that guy, coresomething? I assume he has finally augered down to the center of the earth in his search for energy.
the Pennsylvania State 45, Indiana 24
IU’s two losses have been, first, getting pole axed by THE, which is no shame, and losing to us, which at this point is. PSU has THE next on their schedule and but for Saturday’s loss, it would be tempting to call this a trap game. IU has a pretty good offense, but as a friend told me at his bachelor party, never, never put your trust in an IUD. I intend to keep making that, or a similar, joke each time I am compelled to discuss Indiana.
Oregon 35, UArizona 14
As close as I live to Sun City, I cracked up at Colin Jost’s joke about the fka U of A rebranding: “If you have ever gotten a DUI on a golf cart, UArizona.” It’s funny cuz it’s true. I thought Sumlin was a good hire and Edwards a bad one when they took place at the same time two years ago, but I hear now that Sumlin’s leash is short. I am not sure who would find that a top job, though. To the extent there is HS talent in Arizona, they traditionally go out of state, and UArizona has zero national draw. Anyway, they have had the shit knocked out of them four straight games, and I see no reason it will not be five.
Utah 35, University of California* 24
Utah’s second biggest set of fans right now are in Oregon, and vice versa. Former genius Chip Kelly has had his team playing less bad lately – three wins before a bye, and reasonably close losses before that. Still, Utah has a homefield, talent and coaching edge.
* Los Angeles
University of California* 35, University of California** 14
8 – 4 is acceptable if you are Michigan State, a good year if you are (actual) Cal, and a miracle if you are Maryland. It is not acceptable if you are USC. But take what you can get and hope the new, non-Trojan Man AD has the right vision for the future of your program.
* Southern
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Cincinnati 35, South Florida 10
You know who has said, “I am not going to FSU. I want to play in a half empty NFL stadium for a third rate FBS program because I like their weight room?” No fucking kid. Ever.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 31, Navy 28
Not that I do not very much want to pick the upset.
Wisconsin 35, Nebraska 10
Yeah, a Nebraska Man is coaching Nebraska. Not always the best choice, but I really think it comes down to, once your program loses that special feel it is really, really hard to get it back unless you are in a place people want to go. I think USC can get it back, and despite my finding a cockroach on the sink in a Tallahassee La Quinta, FSU may be able to as well. But Nebraska? By the way, they gave us $15.00 off for the cockroach. I suggested to my wife we put the dead roach in a baggie and see if we can get $15.00 off at the next LaQuinta in Ft. Myers, but she found that, while humorous, unhygienic. We travel with our miniature poodle Benji (“Benjication”) and La Quinta was – until Windham bought them – the most pet friendly mid-priced chain, which is why we tend to stop there despite the roach and last week’s massive grey dog poop.
Florida 42, Misery 13
Missouri has shown me nothing.
Pitt 31, North Carolina 13
One of the less interesting questions left in the season is who is going to come out of the South Atlantic League Coastal [sic] Division to get clobbered by ClemSIN. Maybe Pitt. Rumors have reached my ears about a change in East Lansing being possible – not likely, I think, Dantonio has too much good will left over to not let him try to figure out the modernization of CFB offenses – and Narduzzi has been mentioned. Which strikes me as exactly the wrong move. It would be replacing Dantonio with a Dantonio clone.
Northwestern 5, U Mass 2
The fucking nadir.
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Okay, so does LSU hop over OSU in the next coaches poll?
Real question is whether the Committee jumps them.
Yes and Yes
...and God No.
No one with all their teeth left wants two teams from the SEC in the playoff.
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Joe Burrow may have put a lock on the Heisman in Tuscaloosa today.
His high school career culminated in the honor of being named Mr. Ohio as the top college recruit.
Apropos of our recruiting discussion this week can anyone name the last Mr. Ohio to win the Heisman?
No googling allowed.
Can I use Google to find someone that cares?
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that was mean ...sorry, Jim
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* Southern
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It's the attention to details which I so appreciate
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* Southern
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It's the attention to details which I so appreciate
Most people would be satisfied making the same lame assed joke once, maybe twice. But to continue to make it week after week all year, when no one else finds it amusing, fhat my friend is dedication.
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It was the two asterisks that I looked down and saw nothing for that made me laugh
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Joe Burrow may have put a lock on the Heisman in Tuscaloosa today.
His high school career culminated in the honor of being named Mr. Ohio as the top college recruit.
Apropos of our recruiting discussion this week can anyone name the last Mr. Ohio to win the Heisman?
No googling allowed.
Can I use Google to find someone that cares?
Since we had been discussing tOSU’s alleged home state recruiting advantage and the trend for recruits more likely to go out of state I thought the fact that Charles Woodson picked Michigan over Ohio State was apropos for a trivia question.
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LSU hops OSU. I wonder if anyone saw that coming?
Georgia is #4 and loses to USC and Bama loses to the top team in the nation and is #5. Figure that one out.
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Congrats to the Committee.
Even if Baylor at 13 is too high.
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Baylor could upset Oklahoma.
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I haven’t watched tOSU play football this year, but as they are perpetually overrated, and we are loaded with talent, I know with a divine sense that we would or will blow them out.
Fucking Blowout. 31-0
Take the under.
I assume based on the laws of science, man, god, and voodoo that we lose to Ellis...
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Don't get overconfident bro. This isn't the usual OSU team.
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And we haven’t Clemsoned I think that has become a PSU thing, I’m good.
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DeeJ: Fact.
That was a period.
If you have ever invested $$, past performance (by people who are dead) is not a predictor of success going forward or whatever that shyster slang is...
We are undefeated.
Not concerned at all.
Begging for 2/3, you have no idea how mouth-watering (?) that is for CLEM nation, I want no part of Baylor, SNOWGLOBE, deuces
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For what it is worth, we were not looking ahead, we suck. You stupid, stupid man.
Well, jbot, were I a betting man I would say you will get your wish. And will be regretting your flippancy right up to the final gun. I think this is a better THE team then either of the last two THE national champions on both sides of the ball.
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They are supposed to be good but we've smoked every team that was supposed to be good every year other than ALA, which went, close win, loss, blowout.
Smoked OKLA, DOME, tOSU, and others.
I'll believe it when I see it, our D is going to be great by the end of the year, we have deep weaponry at receiver, and it's all you care to ETIENNE otherwise, and when you start following him, it's TLAW for 6-15 on the ground.
You see, we can't be beaten.
There is not a formula for success against us.
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For what it is worth, we were not looking ahead, we suck.
You are pondering a Pinstripe Bowl slot for the Spartans I guess in the hope theywin out by beating Michigan, Maryland and Rutgers. But that only gets MSU to 7-5. Illinois is now at 6-4 with games left at Iowa and home to Northwestern. They would have to lose both for Sparty to have a possible better record. The more likely results have Illinois at 7-5 and MSU at 6-6. If MSU sweeps it would have a top 25 win(Michigan) but a head-to-head loss to Illinois.
I think Illinois has a better shot at New York with MSU taking the Quick Lane Bowl in Detroit.
One more thought on CFP rankings.
Once again the Committee has emphasized who a team beats than who it loses to.
Alabama and Georgia both have one loss. The Bulldogs lost to 4-6 South Carolina and the Tide to undefeated LSU.
But Georgia has 2 top 20wins (Notre Dame,Florida).
‘Bama has no top 25 wins and only two wins over teams with a winning record.
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Chase Young’s suspension at tOSU was extended one more game, this Saturday at Rutgers.
He will return to the team next week.
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For what it is worth, we were not looking ahead, we suck. You stupid, stupid man.
Well, jbot, were I a betting man I would say you will get your wish. And will be regretting your flippancy right up to the final gun. I think this is a better THE team then either of the last two THE national champions on both sides of the ball.
You suck; your team was looking ahead; your coach is looking for an exit plan from SpaTanHell.
Get used to it.
You remain a stupid, stupid man.
Get used to it.
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Chase Young’s suspension at tOSU was extended one more game, this Saturday at Rutgers.
He will return to the team next week.
So Rutgers' chance goes from "Snowball in Hell" to "Slightly smaller Snowball in Hell." Excellent.
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Chase Young’s suspension at tOSU was extended one more game, this Saturday at Rutgers.
He will return to the team next week.
So Rutgers' chance goes from "Snowball in Hell" to "Slightly smaller Snowball in Hell." Excellent.
A friend of mine who bets a lot told me you can bet the over/under on just one of the teams in a game.
The over/under For Rutgers this week is 3.5.
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I worry about a pity score against the walk ons.
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Chase Young’s suspension at tOSU was extended one more game, this Saturday at Rutgers.
He will return to the team next week.
So Rutgers' chance goes from "Snowball in Hell" to "Slightly smaller Snowball in Hell." Excellent.
A friend of mine who bets a lot told me you can bet the over/under on just one of the teams in a game.
The over/under For Rutgers this week is 3.5.
3.5?
Take the over at some point in the game the OSU team will be laughing so hard collectively that they will all get a simultaneous side ache.
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You are a stupid, stupid man.
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The wonderful thing is that original meow sentences are made every day and cap succeeded, I think meow.
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To a MORON every smart person is stupid.
You are stupid to everyone. You stupid, stupid man.
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You see, we can't be beaten.
There is not a formula for success against us.
hmmm...
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall...or something like that?
You deserve all accolades for the last few years...but don't start going all "Alabama Fan" on us...
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The targeting rule sucks dead donkey dick.
Defenseless player, the new buzzphrase for don't touch em, let em catch it. Asswipe rule.
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I'm here for you, Steve. We'll get through this together.
Psst...Is anyone near the Phoenix area in case this goes sideways and we need a full on intervention?
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don't worry...it will be my turn for suicide watch next week.
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Sparty draws first blood
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You see, we can't be beaten.
There is not a formula for success against us.
hmmm...
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall...or something like that?
You deserve all accolades for the last few years...but don't start going all "Alabama Fan" on us...
It was part belief, part tongue in cheek tUNC demonstrated that we can be beaten.
But it was funny for me to look at it and state with empirical certainy that we can’t lose.
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I assume Chase Young still has the Heisman all locked up, there really are not other players to make an argument, even though his body of work will be abbreviated there are just no players at running back or Quarterback who look like professional atheletes, the NFL draft will be Chase Young and then you might as well pick names out of a hat after that...
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No targeting by wolverine, wow.
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Think this is the year Michigan beats Ohio State.
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Tua dislocated hip.
Done for the season.
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Etienne has 110 yds. rushing in the first half and TLaw matriculation but neither is Young, even w/o 2 games, who cares, it’s the Coastal Atlantic, Jake.
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Brought back too early, player mill that is ALA...
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Brought back too early, player mill that is ALA...
Different injury.
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No sh!t, but have you ever played sports??
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Nevermind, sucks. Everybody likes and respects Tua.
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Why is he in the fucking game??
Sabin is a fucking fuck with his thoughts and prayers.
Fuck him.
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And Urban Meyer doesn't start Tom Brady II?
The guy will probably win the Heisman.
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I don’t understand.
I know Rutgers put up 27 or 21 on tOSU.
Wake: 3
So we are supposed to get beaten or out scored by a team that can’t stop 2-7 Rutgers??
Keep smoking that crack, SNOWGLOBE, not to mix metaphors, but did you ever just consider that we are on a different plane, of existence. You think, hey boys, we’ve got it this year.
Newsflash: The Big Smalls is the South Atlantic Coastals, it’s totally hilarious, baby.
Rutgers?
They put 21 or 27 on you.
Think about that for a second.
Now think about what CLEM would do??
Not let you score 55??
Ding. Ding. Ding.
Pathetic.
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And Gene Smith on whether he has ever thought of sweeping a violation “under the rug,” regarding the Chase Young pay for play controversy: “I haven’t thought of doing that...in years”
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️❤️☺️☺️🏈🏈✌️✌️🤭🤭🤔🤣
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Yawn
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Exactly
And at your peril
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Okla allows 31
Baylor allows 31
Math
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Baylor pays the real price of playing cupcakes.
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A touch, a palpable touch.
Everybody is a cupcake until they aren’t like tUNC, like tUSC, like ILL, etc., et al...
So Wake didn’t suck until they did, which was today, and vs. VT, all I’ve been saying all 72 hrs. or so is that figure out how we don’t score and you do...
Points.
We don’t get scored on, and it could be because we play pansies but the comps tell you otherwise...
The South can’t tell the difference between ILL ID ND PDue tMSU MICH WISCO...
and then there’s tOSU...all fucking talk always has been, always will be...you have no idea how ridiculous you sound.
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:-)
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Oklahoma simply did not let Baylor play in the second half last night.
The Sooners ran 58 plays after the break and Baylor ran just only 16. Baylor’s offense took up only five minutes and 40 seconds of clock time and included three three-and-outs and two turnovers. The Oklahoma comeback was the largest in its history.
Whether the Sooners can jump into the playoff picture is still iffy. Their SOS was hurt by two other second half rallies: Iowa State over Texas, and West Virginia beating Kansas State. And the Sooners May not get much of a bounce in the Big12 Championship game which is expected to be against Baylor
Alabama lost Tua Tagovailoa for the season to a freak hip injury. And it will probably cost them any CFP hopes.
For one, the Playoff Committee is directed to consider the following among other traits as it evaluates and compares teams:
Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
Second, and probably foremost is its SOS and the fact it cannot be a Conference Champion. Moreover Auburn suffered its 3rd loss yesterday to Georgia and will drop in the top 25 rankings. The Tigers are the only hope for the Tide to secure a major win this season.
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I am nearly the last person on Earth to make excuses for Nick Saban. But I can't fault him for playing Tua for one half of a football game. He very clearly wanted to be in the game. If this had happened in the fourth quarter, then sure, I would understand the second guessing.
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I am nearly the last person on Earth to make excuses for Nick Saban. But I can't fault him for playing Tua for one half of a football game. He very clearly wanted to be in the game. If this had happened in the fourth quarter, then sure, I would understand the second guessing.
Urban Meyer had a similar decision at Florida in 2009 as he related on Fox yesterday.
Tim Tebow was concussed in the 3rd quarter of a blow out win of Kentucky. After a bye week the Gators, defending National Champs, had a matchup with LSU. Meyer opted to sit Tebow.
But Tebow and his Dad came to Meyer’s house and argued that Tim was cleared by doctors and Meyer had no “ right” to sit him.
Tebow played and Florida went undefeated until losing to Alabama in the SEC title game.
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And didn’t dislocate a him looking at buildings 15 houses for his people, terrible.
Who fuching needs disability insurance now?
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Do you think Nick negotiation made sure that his ameteur/pro athletes have disability insurance??
No, it didn’t occur to him or you or me, but whisk is the lawyer on the forum and I bet the ? wasn’t raised, but I would have, you don’t think Nick has a policy thrown in...
I’ve never seen worse eye darting, bad body language from a coach,ever, just look, he is telling you that he fucked up at the same time he’s telling you he did the thing that the player wanted to do, dissembler in chief of ALA.
You are better than that cap, we have dissembler in Chief, at leas no genocide or whatever on Nicks hands...
Pathetic
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Oklahoma simply did not let Baylor play in the second half last night.
The Sooners ran 58 plays after the break and Baylor ran just only 16. Baylor’s offense took up only five minutes and 40 seconds of clock time and included three three-and-outs and two turnovers. The Oklahoma comeback was the largest in its history.
Whether the Sooners can jump into the playoff picture is still iffy. Their SOS was hurt by two other second half rallies: Iowa State over Texas, and West Virginia beating Kansas State. And the Sooners May not get much of a bounce in the Big12 Championship game which is expected to be against Baylor
Alabama lost Tua Tagovailoa for the season to a freak hip injury. And it will probably cost them any CFP hopes.
For one, the Playoff Committee is directed to consider the following among other traits as it evaluates and compares teams:
Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
Second, and probably foremost is its SOS and the fact it cannot be a Conference Champion. Moreover Auburn suffered its 3rd loss yesterday to Georgia and will drop in the top 25 rankings. The Tigers are the only hope for the Tide to secure a major win this season.
Notably, the very first year the Committee jumped a team whose QB had suffered a season ending injury in the final regular season game into the playoffs.
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I am nearly the last person on Earth to make excuses for Nick Saban. But I can't fault him for playing Tua for one half of a football game. He very clearly wanted to be in the game. If this had happened in the fourth quarter, then sure, I would understand the second guessing.
Football players suffer football injuries. I did not see the play - or any football, fortunately - but from what I ha e read, the hip and the ankle are not the same thing.
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Oklahoma simply did not let Baylor play in the second half last night.
The Sooners ran 58 plays after the break and Baylor ran just only 16. Baylor’s offense took up only five minutes and 40 seconds of clock time and included three three-and-outs and two turnovers. The Oklahoma comeback was the largest in its history.
Whether the Sooners can jump into the playoff picture is still iffy. Their SOS was hurt by two other second half rallies: Iowa State over Texas, and West Virginia beating Kansas State. And the Sooners May not get much of a bounce in the Big12 Championship game which is expected to be against Baylor
Alabama lost Tua Tagovailoa for the season to a freak hip injury. And it will probably cost them any CFP hopes.
For one, the Playoff Committee is directed to consider the following among other traits as it evaluates and compares teams:
Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
Second, and probably foremost is its SOS and the fact it cannot be a Conference Champion. Moreover Auburn suffered its 3rd loss yesterday to Georgia and will drop in the top 25 rankings. The Tigers are the only hope for the Tide to secure a major win this season.
Notably, the very first year the Committee jumped a team whose QB had suffered a season ending injury in the final regular season game into the playoffs.
A third string quarterback leading his team to a 59-0 win for a Conference Championship against a top 15 team helped. A lot.
Alabama won’t have that chance.
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Well, yes, but a 1 loss Alabama that beats traditional rivals and powerhouses Western Carolina and Auburn and runs smoothly with the back up may get the benefit should there be a couple of 2 loss conference champs.
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Well, yes, but a 1 loss Alabama that beats traditional rivals and powerhouses Western Carolina and Auburn and runs smoothly with the back up may get the benefit should there be a couple of 2 loss conference champs.
:)
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Oklahoma simply did not let Baylor play in the second half last night.
The Sooners ran 58 plays after the break and Baylor ran just only 16. Baylor’s offense took up only five minutes and 40 seconds of clock time and included three three-and-outs and two turnovers. The Oklahoma comeback was the largest in its history.
Whether the Sooners can jump into the playoff picture is still iffy. Their SOS was hurt by two other second half rallies: Iowa State over Texas, and West Virginia beating Kansas State. And the Sooners May not get much of a bounce in the Big12 Championship game which is expected to be against Baylor
Alabama lost Tua Tagovailoa for the season to a freak hip injury. And it will probably cost them any CFP hopes.
For one, the Playoff Committee is directed to consider the following among other traits as it evaluates and compares teams:
Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
Second, and probably foremost is its SOS and the fact it cannot be a Conference Champion. Moreover Auburn suffered its 3rd loss yesterday to Georgia and will drop in the top 25 rankings. The Tigers are the only hope for the Tide to secure a major win this season.
Bama has a pretty good backup QB.
In case you haven't been paying attention.
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I am nearly the last person on Earth to make excuses for Nick Saban. But I can't fault him for playing Tua for one half of a football game. He very clearly wanted to be in the game. If this had happened in the fourth quarter, then sure, I would understand the second guessing.
Yep.
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Oklahoma simply did not let Baylor play in the second half last night.
The Sooners ran 58 plays after the break and Baylor ran just only 16. Baylor’s offense took up only five minutes and 40 seconds of clock time and included three three-and-outs and two turnovers. The Oklahoma comeback was the largest in its history.
Whether the Sooners can jump into the playoff picture is still iffy. Their SOS was hurt by two other second half rallies: Iowa State over Texas, and West Virginia beating Kansas State. And the Sooners May not get much of a bounce in the Big12 Championship game which is expected to be against Baylor
Alabama lost Tua Tagovailoa for the season to a freak hip injury. And it will probably cost them any CFP hopes.
For one, the Playoff Committee is directed to consider the following among other traits as it evaluates and compares teams:
Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
Second, and probably foremost is its SOS and the fact it cannot be a Conference Champion. Moreover Auburn suffered its 3rd loss yesterday to Georgia and will drop in the top 25 rankings. The Tigers are the only hope for the Tide to secure a major win this season.
Notably, the very first year the Committee jumped a team whose QB had suffered a season ending injury in the final regular season game into the playoffs.
Or years ago when a team from Ohio went to the Rose Bowl and not the better team from Michigan.
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I am nearly the last person on Earth to make excuses for Nick Saban. But I can't fault him for playing Tua for one half of a football game. He very clearly wanted to be in the game. If this had happened in the fourth quarter, then sure, I would understand the second guessing.
Football players suffer football injuries. I did not see the play - or any football, fortunately - but from what I ha e read, the hip and the ankle are not the same thing.
And again, yep.
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Oklahoma simply did not let Baylor play in the second half last night.
The Sooners ran 58 plays after the break and Baylor ran just only 16. Baylor’s offense took up only five minutes and 40 seconds of clock time and included three three-and-outs and two turnovers. The Oklahoma comeback was the largest in its history.
Whether the Sooners can jump into the playoff picture is still iffy. Their SOS was hurt by two other second half rallies: Iowa State over Texas, and West Virginia beating Kansas State. And the Sooners May not get much of a bounce in the Big12 Championship game which is expected to be against Baylor
Alabama lost Tua Tagovailoa for the season to a freak hip injury. And it will probably cost them any CFP hopes.
For one, the Playoff Committee is directed to consider the following among other traits as it evaluates and compares teams:
Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
Second, and probably foremost is its SOS and the fact it cannot be a Conference Champion. Moreover Auburn suffered its 3rd loss yesterday to Georgia and will drop in the top 25 rankings. The Tigers are the only hope for the Tide to secure a major win this season.
Notably, the very first year the Committee jumped a team whose QB had suffered a season ending injury in the final regular season game into the playoffs.
A third string quarterback leading his team to a 59-0 win for a Conference Championship against a top 15 team helped. A lot.
Alabama won’t have that chance.
Second string basically all season long.
Second string.
Now you say it.
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Oklahoma simply did not let Baylor play in the second half last night.
The Sooners ran 58 plays after the break and Baylor ran just only 16. Baylor’s offense took up only five minutes and 40 seconds of clock time and included three three-and-outs and two turnovers. The Oklahoma comeback was the largest in its history.
Whether the Sooners can jump into the playoff picture is still iffy. Their SOS was hurt by two other second half rallies: Iowa State over Texas, and West Virginia beating Kansas State. And the Sooners May not get much of a bounce in the Big12 Championship game which is expected to be against Baylor
Alabama lost Tua Tagovailoa for the season to a freak hip injury. And it will probably cost them any CFP hopes.
For one, the Playoff Committee is directed to consider the following among other traits as it evaluates and compares teams:
Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
Second, and probably foremost is its SOS and the fact it cannot be a Conference Champion. Moreover Auburn suffered its 3rd loss yesterday to Georgia and will drop in the top 25 rankings. The Tigers are the only hope for the Tide to secure a major win this season.
Notably, the very first year the Committee jumped a team whose QB had suffered a season ending injury in the final regular season game into the playoffs.
Or years ago when a team from Ohio went to the Rose Bowl and not the better team from Michigan.
No, we did not deserve to go over THE. After all, they beat.us by 20. And beat that other team from Michigan by 23.
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I don't think that's the year he's talking about.
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Or years ago when a team from Ohio went to the Rose Bowl and not the better team from Michigan.
Apropos of the current conversation about key injuries.
Ohio State and Michigan tied for the Big Ten Championship and head-to-head they deadlocked 10-10 in 1973.
But the Wolverine QB, Dennis Franklin, dislocated his shoulder in the game. The Conference AD’s selected OSU for the Rose Bowl because of the Franklin injury.
Michigan coach Bo Schembechler bitterly disagreed but OSU went on to win the Rose Bowl in a romp over USC 42-21.
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Or years ago when a team from Ohio went to the Rose Bowl and not the better team from Michigan.
Apropos of the current conversation about key injuries.
Ohio State and Michigan tied for the Big Ten Championship and head-to-head they deadlocked 10-10 in 1973.
But the Wolverine QB, Dennis Franklin, dislocated his shoulder in the game. The Conference AD’s selected OSU for the Rose Bowl because of the Franklin injury.
Michigan coach Bo Schembechler bitterly disagreed but OSU went on to win the Rose Bowl in a romp over USC 42-21.
Oh. That was us.
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I don't think that's the year he's talking about.
:)
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Or years ago when a team from Ohio went to the Rose Bowl and not the better team from Michigan.
Apropos of the current conversation about key injuries.
Ohio State and Michigan tied for the Big Ten Championship and head-to-head they deadlocked 10-10 in 1973.
But the Wolverine QB, Dennis Franklin, dislocated his shoulder in the game. The Conference AD’s selected OSU for the Rose Bowl because of the Franklin injury.
Michigan coach Bo Schembechler bitterly disagreed but OSU went on to win the Rose Bowl in a romp over USC 42-21.
To the utter disgrace of the Big Ten.
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Or years ago when a team from Ohio went to the Rose Bowl and not the better team from Michigan.
Apropos of the current conversation about key injuries.
Ohio State and Michigan tied for the Big Ten Championship and head-to-head they deadlocked 10-10 in 1973.
But the Wolverine QB, Dennis Franklin, dislocated his shoulder in the game. The Conference AD’s selected OSU for the Rose Bowl because of the Franklin injury.
Michigan coach Bo Schembechler bitterly disagreed but OSU went on to win the Rose Bowl in a romp over USC 42-21.
To the utter disgrace of the Big Ten.
Just the opposite.
The vote seemed to have a curious effect on Woody. Given a second chance (OSU had gone to the Rose the previous year and the Big Ten was still under the tradition of a Rose Bowl no-repeat even though the actual rule was abolished) he opted for a more modern passing game.
It worked. The AD’s were relieved. And within two years the Big Ten was sending multiple teams to Bowls and a clear process for breaking ties was established.
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Or years ago when a team from Ohio went to the Rose Bowl and not the better team from Michigan.
Apropos of the current conversation about key injuries.
Ohio State and Michigan tied for the Big Ten Championship and head-to-head they deadlocked 10-10 in 1973.
But the Wolverine QB, Dennis Franklin, dislocated his shoulder in the game. The Conference AD’s selected OSU for the Rose Bowl because of the Franklin injury.
Michigan coach Bo Schembechler bitterly disagreed but OSU went on to win the Rose Bowl in a romp over USC 42-21.
To the utter disgrace of the Big Ten.
Uh... THE won the Rose Bowl behind a healthy Cornelius Greene, with Archie Griffin and Pete Johnson. Given Franklin's broken collarbone and UM's historically inept kicker the then aptly named Big 10 put the team with the best chance to win in the Conference's only bowl game. Hardly a disgrace.
Deciding vote to send OSU reportedly cast by MSU athletic director Burt Smith, which supposedly cost us a law school for 25 years.
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Eventual 2020 National Champion Michigan State University 23, Rutgers 3
There is “suck” and then there is “Lose to Rutgers suck”. I do not buy the Dantonio hot seat comments I have been reading. These last two weeks are… not good. But I think everyone at MSU knows full well that building a consistent winner in East Lansing is hard, especially when Methchicken is not coached by someone whose name rhymes with Grady Joke. This has been our best run of success since southern schools started allowing black athletes to play, and I think Dantonio is given the opportunity to straighten the mess out. Frankly, it is the defense that concerns me. I expected offensive issues, but the way the defense has played the last couple weeks is troubling. I blame Joe Bachie.
the Louisiana State 56, Arkansas 10
Really, what is with God’s Conference scheduling cupcake games the week before their regular season rivalry games? I am not sure if there is any real difference between scheduling a joke team in your second game and doing so in your penultimate game, but it sure seems like it. Of course, to be fair ClemSIN is taking a week off before its rivalry game.
THE 31, the Pennsylvania State 17
I have vacillated, or perhaps oscillated, between thinking this will be a close game and thinking it will be a blow out. I have essentially landed in the middle. PSU has not looked like a team to challenge THE in their last two games, but I still respect that defense. THE has too many weapons, and their defense is the real edge for me. On the other hand, it would be interesting to see how they react to getting punched in the nose, rather than just rolling. I would like a PSU win - it would be nice to see teams that have never made the playoffs make the playoffs – especially since the PSU got jacked out of a spot in favor of THE in 2016. I just don’t see it.
Georgia 27, Texas A&M 17
TAMU has lost to every good team they have played. Offensively, except for a couple walk overs, Georgia has been stuck in the 20s all year. I thought their offense would be better. They are already in the God’s Conference Championship game, but they have had their sights set higher all year, and I expect no let down.
Alabama 49, Western Carolina 0
Is Western Carolina even a state? No. Is “Catamite” a really bizarre name for a football team? Yes. Is that actually their team name? No.
Oregon 35, the Arizona State University 21
The Fightin’ Herms are riding a four game losing streak, needing this or a win in the Territorial Cup to be playoff eligible. The highlight of their season was probably beating us, which is sad. Oregon’s defense looked shaky in the three games leading up to last Saturday, but Herbert seems to be clicking offensively.
Utah 38, UArizona 6
Both of the PAWCP leaders head to the Sonoran Desert this week. Not that home field really matters. Utah and Oregon should take care of business this week and next, which could very well get the PAWCP a ticket to the playoffs and would virtually eliminate a non-champ team like Alabama – or, if they lose in the championship game, LSU. I will root for Utah – again, I would love to see a team that has not been in the playoffs in. Which applies to LSU also.
Oklahoma 42, Texas Christian 31
Oklahoma has given up 27 points or more in four of their last five games, which calls into question the idea that their defense has reversed course from last year. They have also come within a hare’s breath of losing the last two weeks. I always wondered, as a kid, how big a hare’s breath is. Such an odd measurement. I still think that way even after learning what the phrase actually is. Anyway, TCU can get their bowl eligibility next week.
Minnesota 27, Northwestern 7
Northwestern had an offensive explosion last week – more points than they had scored in all their games in October and (11/16 excepted) November combined. And more points than they will score in the rest of the year. Minnesota/Wisky next week will be for the Big Whatever West slot, regardless of what happens here, but while I respect NU’s defense, I think Fleck’s team rows the boat one more week.
Indiana 27, Methchicken 21
Trap game check list: Emotional rivalry game the week before? Check. Looking forward to another one next week? Check. Key players making stupid comments about the next game? Check. Quality team they should beat but capable of beating them? Check. On the road? Check. Do I hate them? Check check check check check.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 21, Boston College 17
BC is just not that good. 5 – 5 in the South Atlantic League? Bad. Loss to Kansfuckingass? Worse.
Virginia Tech 24, Pittsburgh 21
Someone is winning the South Atlantic League Coastal [sic], right? A showdown with Virginia looms for VTU. I am letting the home field call this one.
Cincinnati 27, Temple 13
Cinci is still the unfortunate decision to schedule THE for a paycheck away from unbeaten. That 11/29 showdown with Memphis should be an entertaining game that will go a long way to determining the Gang of Five bowl rep. But Temple is good, good enough to take down Cinci like they did Memphis.
University of California* 35, University of California** 24
I am sorry, but who came up with the bright idea of letting the Bruins play a game after this one? And why is this not played on the last regular season Saturday? THE v. Methchicken at noon, Nebraska v. Oklahoma in the midafternoon, USC v. UCLA at night, drinking cocoa and roasting hot dogs in the fireplace with my dad. Both teams in their home unis, a packed Coliseum, John McKay on the sidelines, Rose Bowl in the line, lots of student body rights… and now get off my lawn whippersnappers.
* Southern
** Los Angeles
Nebraska 23, Maryland 14
The last time either of these teams won a game was October 5. One of these teams wins its last game of the year Saturday. The other wins next in Sept… wait, Maryland still has us to play. Never mind.
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I am sorry, but who came up with the bright idea of letting the Bruins play a game after this one?
who else...Larry Scott
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Or years ago when a team from Ohio went to the Rose Bowl and not the better team from Michigan.
Apropos of the current conversation about key injuries.
Ohio State and Michigan tied for the Big Ten Championship and head-to-head they deadlocked 10-10 in 1973.
But the Wolverine QB, Dennis Franklin, dislocated his shoulder in the game. The Conference AD’s selected OSU for the Rose Bowl because of the Franklin injury.
Michigan coach Bo Schembechler bitterly disagreed but OSU went on to win the Rose Bowl in a romp over USC 42-21.
To the utter disgrace of the Big Ten.
Just the opposite.
Says you, and other Big 10 apologists.
But most of the nation disagreed and thought it was not only unfair but flat out wrong.
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It is irrelevant to how the Committee treats the Tua injury, which is why I didn't think of the reference. Different process, different rule.
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It is irrelevant to how the Committee treats the Tua injury, which is why I didn't think of the reference. Different process, different rule.
You may be right, of course.
But.
The 1973 Big Ten AD’s had no guidelines to break a tie and chose to consider a injury to a key player.
The CFP Committee does. It chose to kick that decision down the road and based its current rankings on current results.
But Chair Rob Mullens had an insightful comment:
Our job is to evaluate the games through Week 12,” Mullens said. “Obviously, we’re aware of the injury to the quarterback late in the second quarter of last week’s game, but Alabama continued on to a convincing win in that, so it didn’t impact the rankings this week.”
Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
Even with chaos the Tua injury as per Mullens will be considered.
I suppose Alabama’s exalted status is to be expected given its unprecedented success in the last 8 years.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
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Do not underestimate the chance of chaos. All it takes is for Texas to beat Baylor and Oklahoma to lose the championship game, Wisky to win out and we have two conferences with two loss champions. Oregon losing to ASU might give us a third.
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Went East for five weeks with no internet and couldn't get back into the site. Changed my password and it let me back in. Was going to make it ohiostsucks
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Do not underestimate the chance of chaos. All it takes is for Texas to beat Baylor and Oklahoma to lose the championship game
Big 12 equivalent of beating a dead horse. That conference can’t make it with a one loss champion.
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Do not underestimate the chance of chaos. All it takes is for Texas to beat Baylor and Oklahoma to lose the championship game
Big 12 equivalent of beating a dead horse. That conference can’t make it with a one loss champion.
Not over another one loss Conference champ, but if Wisky wins out and there are four one loss Conference champs? Independent OLotPT aside, the Committee has never elevated a one loss non-champ over a one loss champ. The champs they have passed over have all had a second loss, and the rationale has always focused on a one loss resume being better than a two loss resume, so the whole conference champs thing is not in play. A one loss Oklahoma with that extra data point should have an advantage over Alabama, or in my scenario THE.
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Do not underestimate the chance of chaos. All it takes is for Texas to beat Baylor and Oklahoma to lose the championship game
Big 12 equivalent of beating a dead horse. That conference can’t make it with a one loss champion.
Not over another one loss Conference champ, but if Wisky wins out and there are four one loss Conference champs? Independent OLotPT aside, the Committee has never elevated a one loss non-champ over a one loss champ. The champs they have passed over have all had a second loss, and the rationale has always focused on a one loss resume being better than a two loss resume, so the whole conference champs thing is not in play. A one loss Oklahoma with that extra data point should have an advantage over Alabama, or in my scenario THE.
Well certainly Alabama.
Certainly not Ohio State.
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
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Went East for five weeks with no internet and couldn't get back into the site. Changed my password and it let me back in. Was going to make it ohiostsucks
Hey, we have internet in the east. This ain't South Park.
Nice to see you back Bo.
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
You have a point, but consider, Alabama's hope to improve their SoS will be a win against a four loss team in at best, the 20s range in the Committee rankings. Compare that to who the teams around them will be playing. Without a conference championship on their record - which would also give them a better win - Alabama is going to be hurt for the God's Conference luck of the draw this year. I suppose they might be in the argument if there.are a couple of two loss champions - the committee really, really hates that second loss - but only if LSU beats Georgia.
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Went East for five weeks with no internet and couldn't get back into the site. Changed my password and it let me back in. Was going to make it ohiostsucks
I was thinking of starting a Faulkner discussion just to see if you were dead.
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
You have a point, but consider, Alabama's hope to improve their SoS will be a win against a four loss team in at best, the 20s range in the Committee rankings. Compare that to who the teams around them will be playing. Without a conference championship on their record - which would also give them a better win - Alabama is going to be hurt for the God's Conference luck of the draw this year. I suppose they might be in the argument if there.are a couple of two loss champions - the committee really, really hates that second loss - but only if LSU beats Georgia.
And you have a good point/s too.
I don't know how much leeway the committee has for just good old fashion common sense.(If they have any at all)
Also SOS isn't everything, and at this juncture that "quality" loss they have couldn't get any better than what it is.
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Do not underestimate the chance of chaos. All it takes is for Texas to beat Baylor and Oklahoma to lose the championship game
Big 12 equivalent of beating a dead horse. That conference can’t make it with a one loss champion.
Not over another one loss Conference champ, but if Wisky wins out and there are four one loss Conference champs?
If Wisconsin does win out it will finish with wins over 2 top ten teams and easily jump Oklahoma who can’t match that finish.
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
Indiana is not ranked. No one is comparing them to Auburn.
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
Indiana is not ranked. No one is comparing them to Auburn.
You did.
But the point being made is that there are 3 loss teams that are eh, and then there are 3 loss teams that aren't eh.
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Went East for five weeks with no internet and couldn't get back into the site. Changed my password and it let me back in. Was going to make it ohiostsucks
I was thinking of starting a Faulkner discussion just to see if you were dead.
😂😂
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
Indiana is not ranked. No one is comparing them to Auburn.
You did.
No.
But the point being made is that there are 3 loss teams that are eh, and then there are 3 loss teams that aren't eh.
Which will be a factor should Indiana beat Michigan and end 9-3 with two of its losses to tOSU and PSU. Auburn would have to beat Alabama to finish 9-3. A loss to the ‘ Tide would leave them at 8-4 It’s quality win over Oregon might be the deciding factor to finish higher than Indiana.
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
Indiana is not ranked. No one is comparing them to Auburn.
You did.
No.
But the point being made is that there are 3 loss teams that are eh, and then there are 3 loss teams that aren't eh.
Which will be a factor should Indiana beat Michigan and end 9-3 with two of its losses to tOSU and PSU. Auburn would have to beat Alabama to finish 9-3. A loss to the ‘ Tide would leave them at 8-4 It’s quality win over Oregon might be the deciding factor to finish higher than Indiana.
The deciding factor ought to be the other team IU lost to.
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Isn't there a rule about games against D3 teams not counting.
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Went East for five weeks with no internet and couldn't get back into the site. Changed my password and it let me back in. Was going to make it ohiostsucks
Hey, we have internet in the east. This ain't South Park.
Nice to see you back Bo.
I think he was at East Rikers
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
Indiana is not ranked. No one is comparing them to Auburn.
You did.
No.
But the point being made is that there are 3 loss teams that are eh, and then there are 3 loss teams that aren't eh.
Which will be a factor should Indiana beat Michigan and end 9-3 with two of its losses to tOSU and PSU. Auburn would have to beat Alabama to finish 9-3. A loss to the ‘ Tide would leave them at 8-4 It’s quality win over Oregon might be the deciding factor to finish higher than Indiana.
The deciding factor ought to be the other team IU lost to.
LOL!
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Isn't there a rule about games against D3 teams not counting.
Those are factored in using ‘ common sense’ by the Committee.
:)
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Alabama squeaks out a hard fought win over mighty Directional State.
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Thank God for Rutgers.
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I may stop watching the IU - Methchicken game. Because that way as far as I can tell, Methchicken loses.
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As much as I hate to say it, that Buckeye defense is a thing of beauty.
Dammit.
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
Indiana is not ranked. No one is comparing them to Auburn.
You did.
No.
No.
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Next week Alabama plays a nobody.
Then it plays a 3 loss (albeit primary Rival) Auburn.
Absent chaos from the rest of the contenders the Tide probably falls from five based on SOS alone.
But that has nothing to do with the facts this year.
Here's a few facts for you:
Three loss Auburn beat #6 Oregon. And their three losses were to the #1, #4, and #10 teams in the nation, by an average of only 7 points per game. So their metrics actually look very good.
Making them out to sound like they're the same as the 7-3 Indiana Who?siers is patently fatuous.
Indiana is not ranked. No one is comparing them to Auburn.
You did.
No.
But the point being made is that there are 3 loss teams that are eh, and then there are 3 loss teams that aren't eh.
Which will be a factor should Indiana beat Michigan and end 9-3 with two of its losses to tOSU and PSU. Auburn would have to beat Alabama to finish 9-3. A loss to the ‘ Tide would leave them at 8-4 It’s quality win over Oregon might be the deciding factor to finish higher than Indiana.
The deciding factor ought to be the other team IU lost to.
By my scenario you are right. Jim tends to roam all over the place in his 'thoughts'.
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As much as I hate to say it, that Buckeye defense is a thing of beauty.
Dammit.
THE dominated on both sides, much more than the score indicated.
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As much as I hate to say it, that Buckeye defense is a thing of beauty.
Dammit.
THE dominated on both sides, much more than the score indicated.
Yep.
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Kedon Slovis's mom positively screams Scottsdale.
Entertaining game. I imagine Trojan throwing things at the screen every time Brian Griese says USC should keep Helton.
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As much as I hate to say it, that Buckeye defense is a thing of beauty.
Dammit.
THE dominated on both sides, much more than the score indicate
Four straight years of classic games between Penn State and Ohio State.
Michigan needs to step up next week to compete after 7 years of futility.
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Harvard and Yale played football today for the 136th time.
The only notification bulletin I got from ESPN about the game was to announce there was a delay in play when students from BOTH universities stormed the field to protest
Climate Change.
LOL.
BTW. Yale won 53-40 in overtime and leads the series 69-60-9.
Just so you know.
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As much as I hate to say it, that Buckeye defense is a thing of beauty.
Dammit.
THE dominated on both sides, much more than the score indicate
Four straight years of classic games between Penn State and Ohio State.
Really? There was not a moment of the game I wasn't thinking something like, THE may give this game away, but PSU cannot take it for themselves.
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Harvard and Yale played football today for the 136th time.
The only notification bulletin I got from ESPN about the game was to announce there was a delay in play when students from BOTH universities stormed the field to protest
Climate Change.
LOL.
Good for them.
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Harvard and Yale played football today for the 136th time.
The only notification bulletin I got from ESPN about the game was to announce there was a delay in play when students from BOTH universities stormed the field to protest
Climate Change.
LOL.
BTW. Yale won 53-40 in overtime and leads the series 69-60-9.
Just so you know.
I'm sure they think they made a difference.
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As much as I hate to say it, that Buckeye defense is a thing of beauty.
Dammit.
THE dominated on both sides, much more than the score indicate
Four straight years of classic games between Penn State and Ohio State.
Really? There was not a moment of the game I wasn't thinking something like, THE may give this game away, but PSU cannot take it for themselves.
That’s the beauty of sports.
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Well the Fightin Hermites put the Ducks hope of a playoff berth to the bottom of the pond.
There's still hope for Bama yet. Okie keeps alive too. Colorado will be fighting for their bowl lives when they meet Utah this Saturday. But I don't hold out too much hope they'll pull of the upset in Uteville.
That leaves Oregon to knock off the Utes and Baylor to avenge their loss to the Sooners.
But what if Minnesota knocks off OSU in the Big Ten CG?(Pffffttt, bahahahaha!) Knew I couldn't type that with a straight keyboard. And hey, Missagain might beat OSU.
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Given how they have played this month it would not surprise me if Okie lost Bedlam.
So... Okie loses to Okie State and the beats Baylor. Oregon beats Utah. Minnesota beats THE. Georgia beats LSU. Chaos!
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Sad!
I couldn’t figure why Jimbo Baggins didn’t go for it on 4th and 11 unless he just wanted to beat the spread, I know success is unlikely but as Herm has said (and demonstrated yesterday): “You play to win the game).
Noticed C.H.U.D.cycodone not very insightful in booth, but it beats being fired for cause.
And Young definitely put a 5 star SUPERLOCK on the Heisman, I mean nobody else is even in the discussion really, when I try to make something spring to mind the mind recoils in horror, ikr??
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A little too early to be that drunk.
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Not a drop at the time, now I’ve had 2 beers.
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Jimbo Baggins??
That’s funny, right?
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I get that you’re a C.H.U.D./tHE apologist, but c’mon.
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Oh, Jimbo Baggins was good.
I am 13/14th of a Big Whatever fan. The THE is circumstantial - they have been the Conference's top team for a long time, and the flash point for haters and stupid, stupid men. And I do not have an encyclopedic knowledge of your personal code. Who or what is CHUD?
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Given how they have played this month it would not surprise me if Okie lost Bedlam.
So... Okie loses to Okie State and the beats Baylor. Oregon beats Utah. Minnesota beats THE. Georgia beats LSU. Chaos!
Wow that really is chaos. But you forgot Auburn beats Bama.
And anyone from the ACC manages to beat Clemson. Well that may be taking chaos a little too far.
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Oregon’s loss to Arizona State was a stunner The Sun Devils had lost consecutive games to Utah, UCLA, USC and Oregon State entering Saturday. Their last lead came in a 38-34 win against Washington State on Oct. 12. They trailed Oregon in the first quarter Saturday, tied it up a few minutes later, took a lead in the second quarter and held it the rest of the way.
It may be a reminder of just how big the gap is between Pac12 play and that of the Big Ten and the SEC.
That said, who is the happiest at the Duck disaster?
Nick Saban? Sure. One less team for the Tide to fret about.
How about No. 9 Oklahoma escaping with a scary 28-24 win over TCU ?Can the Sooners go 12-1 with no more home games?
But.
Now Oklahoma/Baylor are almost sure to meet for the Big 12 each at 11-1 with the winner able to strut its stuff.
As for the PAC 12.
Maybe Utah is actually better than Oregon. Certainly it is with the Duck loss. Utah may emerge as the more dangerous team having given up seven points or less in five of their last six games. And the Utes have the No. 4 ranked scoring defense is smashing foes, including the Arizona State offense (in a 21-3 win) that just lit up the Ducks. Any criticisms of their schedule are more than offset by their dominating wins.
Without chaos the resume comparisons of Utah, Oklahoma, and Alabama will dominate.
And nothing that happened Saturday makes Alabama’s profile any stronger.
The Tide has to trounce Auburn to stay in the conversation.
There’s a big cry to elevate Ohio State Defensive End Chase Young to Heisman status. Certainly he is a great defensive player. Ask Penn State or any other Buckeye opponent.
But.
Two other Buckeyes also would be getting votes. JK Dobbins and Justin Fields.
I don’t see how Joe Burrow can lose.
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He can't. He shouldn't.
Young changes the game on the defensive end more than any player. But he is not winning the Heismann. He will have to content himself with the millions the NFL will pay him.
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He can't. He shouldn't.
Young changes the game on the defensive end more than any player. But he is not winning the Heismann. He will have to content himself with the millions the NFL will pay him.
I don’t think Young cares about the Heisman nor should he.
That’s left to people who don’t pay attention.
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Oh, Jimbo Baggins was good.
I am 13/14th of a Big Whatever fan. The THE is circumstantial - they have been the Conference's top team for a long time, and the flash point for haters and stupid, stupid men. And I do not have an encyclopedic knowledge of your personal code. Who or what is CHUD?
I used to call him Sub-Urban Meyer.
So, Cannibalistic Human Underground Dweller, movie title “C.H.U.D,” is a low budget film from like 1980.
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So ‘84, when I was 15 and my brain developed solely intellectually thereafter, I am still a 15-yr. old video store wanderer, at heart.
In high school my 2-3 buddies and I would rent 2 movies, something like “Marathon Man” Or especially “Taxi Driver,” and then a trash one just to know.
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Oh, Jimbo Baggins was good.
I am 13/14th of a Big Whatever fan. The THE is circumstantial - they have been the Conference's top team for a long time, and the flash point for haters and stupid, stupid men. And I do not have an encyclopedic knowledge of your personal code. Who or what is CHUD?
I used to call him Sub-Urban Meyer.
So, Cannibalistic Human Underground Dweller, movie title “C.H.U.D,” is a low budget film from like 1980.
The movie part of the reference I got. I recall seeing an ad and my nascent interest in what appeared to be an enjoyably stupid, stupid movie being quashed by my girlfriend in favor of maybe El Norte or something.
Meyer is a great coach, but not a great Russet. He will soon be Trojan's issue.
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The Spartans have made the playoffs! So great to see my alma mater in the post season!
https://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/2019-20/releases/20191120lhmo0c
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I am a week behind. CWRU lost to Union on Saturday, 24 - 21.
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I am a week behind. CWRU lost to Union on Saturday, 24 - 21.
It's probably Hardin-Baylor and Mount Union. But I have to admit I'm holding out hope for Muhlenberg.
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Eventual 2020 National Champion Michigan State 27, Maryland 14
Going to be a great recruiting tool for Dantonio: come here, work hard and you can get a trip to a bowl game and spend your winter holiday in Detroit. The extra weeks of practice will come in handy. I am not discounting the possibility of a Maryland win. Maybe missing a bowl game will give Dant the impetus he needs to consider modernizing his offense.
THE 35, Methchicken 17
Methchicken has shown a strong defense all year, and their offense has started to produce the last few weeks. I do not think they can keep THE’s defensive front in check long enough for sustained success. THE is the class of the league. That was a pretty good PSU team. THE’s turnovers cost THE 7 and gave PSU 10 – and they still won by 11. Assuming Fields is healthy – he appeared to have some issues with his non-throwing hand, which might have played a role in the two fumbles – and THE got their fumbles out of the way last week, I think they can handle The Game.
Minnesota 24, Wisconsin 21
Well, why not. Minnesota has a pretty good passing game, with a strong set of receivers. I think Wisky is too one dimensional offensively. And, sometimes I like to root for a good story. Row the boat! Fleck is a good choice for the post-Helton era.
Virginia Tech 31, Virginia 28
Someone’s getting dick stomped by ClemSIN in the Championship game, right? Might as well be the Hokies. Virginia has not beaten Tech since 2003.
Memphis 31, Cinci 28
For as long as I lived in Ohio, I still cannot spell Cincinnati without autocorrect. Cinci – which I can spell – has been trying to lose each of the last couple of weeks, without success. Both teams are imagining that Gang of 5 slot in the Cotton Bowl. A Memphis win, if I am not mistaken, means the two teams get to do it all over again in a week.
Alabama 24, Auburn 13
Auburn has a tough defense. They also have a lousy Quarterback. Every time I watch the punditry on the Worldwide Leader, they keep talking about Alabama getting in the playoffs if they can beat Auburn. I still say that while it is possible within their rules, until the Committee puts a one loss non-champ in the playoffs over a one loss champ, I don’t believe they will do it. At least not one with Alabama’s strength of schedule – LSU losing to Georgia might do it. Alabama needs two two loss conference champions – which is possible. Wisky and (more likely) Oregon can win their conferences, and a two loss Pure Prairie League champ may also be in the cards.
ClemSIN 52, South Carolina 10
Yeah… I still think ClemSIN hoists the… well whatever the hell that trophy is. South Carolina had its moment of glory when they torpedoed Georgia.
Georgia 21, Georgia Tech 3
Georgia has won a lot of games against some good teams without every really looking impressive. Georgia Tech has not had an impressive win since the Obama administration. Fromm is looking like he was the third best guy in the quarterback room last year. There is just something not working with that offense. Still enough of it since the Georgia defense is pretty strong.
the Louisiana State 47, Texas A&M 24
Jimbo Baggins. Good one. TAMU has gotten way more respect than they deserve this year. Yes, they are about to have lost to five really good teams this year, but look at the teams they have beaten. Who is the best? Old Mississippi? To be a good team you have to beat at least one good team. To the extent he has not already wrapped it up, ex-THE Burrow just needs to not spit the bit in the home stretch to win the Heisman.
the Pennsylvania State University 42, Rutgers – 3
Nothing to help you lick your wounds like playing Rutgers. And the PSU took a beating Saturday that is not entirely reflected in the score. On the other hand, Rutgers got smoked by us. Got smoked by US. Team is so bad even Schiano wants nothing to do with the coaching gig.
Oregon 35, Oregon State 17
Herbert was Herbert Saturday. I think he is this generation’s Jeff George. Looks exactly like you think a Quarterback should look. Is not a Quarterback. Some NFL team is going to take him high in April and set the progress of their team back three years.
Utah 31, Colorado 10
I just want to point out I had Utah in my pre-season top 11. They have been a sneaky good team all year.
Oklahoma 35, the Oklahoma State 24
It has been about a month since Oklahoma has looked like one of the best teams in the country. They could have – indeed, should have - lost any of their last three games. Okie State has been on a hot streak, but I expect Riley to get OU right in time for the post season. A loss by Okie here still keeps them in the Pure Prairie League championship game and sets the stage for an Alabama playoff slot.
Baylor 24, Kansas 21
Don’t sleep on Kansas. The Mad Hatter has them sucking slightly less ass this year than in previous years, and I don’t Ruhle out them winning. See what I did there?
the Boise State 35, the Colorado State 14
Primed to take advantage of the possibility of Cinci and Memphis trading wins in the AAC? Boise.
Florida 31, the Florida State 10
Two loss Florida is still hanging around the Top 10. The Florida State is recovering from a bad hire. ClemSIN really needs someone in the South Atlantic League to resurrect their program, FSU or Miami and neither team looks all that close to them doing it.
Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin Baylor 52, Huntingdon 3
Look, they can’t even spell “Huntington” right. What kind of crappy college is that? MHB is looking at colliding yet again with the Mount, with the winner hoisting the golden beater Subaru or what ever the trophy is.
Mount Union 42, North Central 17
One of these teams is clearly confused vis a vis their directions. True interesting fact: the D III playoffs also include teams from Union and Central colleges. No sign of any teams from either North or Mount college.
Muehlenberg 31, SUNY Brockport 14
Muehlenberg shut down the really really smart kids at MIT. Not sure what else to say.
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I am not discounting the possibility of a Maryland win.
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Memphis 31, Cinci 28
Both teams are imagining that Gang of 5 slot in the Cotton Bowl. A Memphis win, if I am not mistaken, means the two teams get to do it all over again in a week.
Yes. And if this week’s loser wins the rematch the Gang of 5 Cotton Bowl berth will be up for debate.
If the AAC finishes with a two-loss champion Boise State will be the most likely benefactor. The 10-1 Broncos finish with Colorado State and then host 8-4 Hawaii in the Mountain West conference title game.
But.
What about one loss Appalachian State?
It’s No. 24 in the CFP rankings with two Power 5 road wins (North Carolina, South Carolina) and will face what could be a 10-2 Louisiana Lafayette in the Sun Belt championship game.
This could be the Committee’s toughest decision.
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Oh, Jimbo Baggins was good.
I am 13/14th of a Big Whatever fan. The THE is circumstantial - they have been the Conference's top team for a long time, and the flash point for haters and stupid, stupid men. And I do not have an encyclopedic knowledge of your personal code. Who or what is CHUD?
I used to call him Sub-Urban Meyer.
So, Cannibalistic Human Underground Dweller, movie title “C.H.U.D,” is a low budget film from like 1980.
The movie part of the reference I got. I recall seeing an ad and my nascent interest in what appeared to be an enjoyably stupid, stupid movie being quashed by my girlfriend in favor of maybe El Norte or something.
Meyer is a great coach, but not a great Russet. He will soon be Trojan's issue.
Yeah I went for sub-urban to chide and added the “-cycontin” part just based on assumptions about tOhioans...
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Entertaining game. I imagine Trojan throwing things at the screen every time Brian Griese says USC should keep Helton.
I am not one of the fans screaming for Helton to be removed. Though I can certainly understand if they make that decision. I would hope they feel they have a strong line on a really proven coach before they would pull the trigger on that at least.
I think if they replaced Clancy Pendergast and John Baxter this year, they would be in the 10-2 range with Helton and Harrell remaining in place. I really used to like both those guys, but the past two years seem to indicate the game has passed them by.
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Yale won 53-40 in overtime
I don't recall seeing an OT score like that before. Did they return a turnover for a TD?
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Really? There was not a moment of the game I wasn't thinking something like, THE may give this game away, but PSU cannot take it for themselves.
Maybe he means it in the same sense that I use to determine classic football games... 2005 Orange Bowl was a classic game! 2006 Rose Bowl was not.
Other people seem very confused by those facts. Not sure why.
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Yale won 53-40 in overtime
I don't recall seeing an OT score like that before. Did they return a turnover for a TD?
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I blame global warming for the inflated score.
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Yale won 53-40 in overtime
I don't recall seeing an OT score like that before. Did they return a turnover for a TD?
53-40 is almost something to fight over.
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If CLEM fans meet the other schools team in the middle that means it’s fucking ON, and I don’t mean to complain about the weather, sheeeeeit
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Wtf?
Looks like the Masons don’t want us to smack tOSU 31-0 again, otherwise abandon all hope of logic ye who enter here.
LOL
Scairt.
Puzzles.
Way to hold off Sandusky State??
No, thanks.
See you when-ever, little bitch.
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https://cnsmaryland.org/2019/11/07/ncaa-rules-help-umd-others-inflate-football-attendance-figures/?fbclid=IwAR0tcrOdmrZP5gUePmQ11VEfbfXSWOzRHelaCM5P4XYUwjBgOkkLq2Vl1fI (https://cnsmaryland.org/2019/11/07/ncaa-rules-help-umd-others-inflate-football-attendance-figures/?fbclid=IwAR0tcrOdmrZP5gUePmQ11VEfbfXSWOzRHelaCM5P4XYUwjBgOkkLq2Vl1fI)
Stadium expansion and move to Big 10 paying dividends!
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Wtf?
Looks like the Masons don’t want us to smack tOSU 31-0 again, otherwise abandon all hope of logic ye who enter here.
LOL
Scairt.
Puzzles.
Way to hold off Sandusky State??
No, thanks.
See you when-ever, little bitch.
A more plausible explanation is that THE's win over the Penn State compared to the LSU's win over Fayetteville State helped balance the strength of schedule to the point where the eye test rewarded THE's superior defensive performance enough to elevate them. When both win out, the LSU will likely be #1 again and I will see you in Glendale.
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What a pisser!!!
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More stupid preening.
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More stupid peeing.
fify
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Ehh.
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Now the Buckeye D knows they aren't going to win this game on their reputation.
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Now the Buckeye D knows they aren't going to win this game on their reputation.
Yeah, had to rely on their superior talent.
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Ohio State’s win moved the Buckeyes into first place in all time winning per cen age, overtaking Michigan.
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Waddle is one fast dude.
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Replay screws Bama at the end of the half. There is a glitch in the rule for sure.
If you just let it play out. As I think the refs should have there is no time to spike it. Half over. Screwed up rule right there.
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This game is turning into an all-time classic
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This game is turning into an all-time classic
MaryLand v SpaTanPansis?
Nope-the SEC boys down Bama way beating the crap out of each other
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A DIXIE DOINK!
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And now a Dixie dozen does Bama in.
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I'll go with
Clemson
LSU
OSU
Oklahoma.
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Just saw Paul Finebaum on ESPN explaining how Alabama can still make the playoffs.
Meanwhile, DJ remains a stupid,.stupid man.
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My belated apologies to cap for implying he would want his penis anywhere near that diseased senile trollop, even if only in its imagination.
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Okay, so does Sabin and Alabama have a gripe about that first half FG?
According to the rules he doesn't. Will the rules committee be taking a look at this particular glitch? And do the NFL rules address this sort of thing?
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LSU looked more than just a little impressive against Tex A&M yesterday. Do they hop back above OSU? Michigan was ranked, even though they looked rank in their game.
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Chaos was nowhere to be found this weekend. Can it be found next weekend?
If not the playoff field will be tOSU, LSU, and Clemson. Add Georgia if it wins the SEC. The only suspense would be the order to be sorted out by game results.
A Georgia loss sets up the fight for the fourth spot.
Utah or Oklahoma? I think the edge is with Utah if both win.
If both lose? Baylor.
So where is the most likely place for Chaos to be lurking?
In Charlotte North Carolina!
In the unlikely event(Chaos!) 9-3 Virginia could upset Clemson it would mean the Tigers are 12-1 without a Conference Championship and a weak SOS to compare with Utah and Baylor/Oklahoma.
Such a scenario is unprecedented in the history of the CFP.
Maybe Chaos would be shooed away but it would be chuckling for a few hours.
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If tUSC COCK put 3 on the board vs. *li’l old Clemson*, do you think we are getting off the ROY bus in Charlotte and let *chaos* ensue.
You are making up a scenario but you haven’t really thought it through.
tOSU is infinitely more likely to get *gophered* like Richard Gere, than anything close to what you describe...
I know you are trolling but wigger, please...
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There is no chance of Ohio State getting "Gophered" in Big 10 Championship game. But being Badgered is a possibility.
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Thanks for the correction, I had lesser important things on my mind yesterday...
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The 48 points Auburn scored against Alabama were the most points allowed by a Nick Saban-coached team since 1999. That’s when Drew Brees led Purdue to a 52-28 win against Saban and Michigan State.
The Tide has 101 missed field goals since 2007, the most in the FBS.
Seven different teams have won the ACC Coastal in the past seven years,
That’s every team in the division.
Six teams will play in at least their third consecutive conference championship game. Clemson (2015-19), Georgia (2017-19), Oklahoma (2017-19), Ohio State (2017-19), Boise State (2017-19) and Memphis (2017-19)
Ohio State has defeated four teams that will play in conference championship games.
The Buckeyes beat FAU 45-21, Cincinnati 42-0, Miami (Ohio) 76-5 and Wisconsin 38-7. They’ll have a rematch with the Badgers next week.
Indiana finished with a winning Big Ten record and has eight total wins for the first time since 1993.
The Hoosiers have won at least eight games eight times in school history, and the school-record for wins is nine, last reached in 1967. The Hoosiers will probably get a chance for number 9
In the Pinstripe Bowl against Pittsburgh.
There are 79 Bowl eligible teams for 78 spots. The likely team without a Bowl? Toledo. The Rockets were 6-6 but lost three MAC games to non-eligible Bowl teams.
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Okay, so does Sabin and Alabama have a gripe about that first half FG?
According to the rules he doesn't. Will the rules committee be taking a look at this particular glitch? And do the NFL rules address this sort of thing?
Sabin has no argument, IMO. The review was necessary to get the time on the clock correct. And He was dead wrong in his comment that "I know it takes three seconds, blah, blah, blah"! It doesn't take three seconds to snap a feetball, period. The official gives the ready signal, the center snaps the ball, the hold is good, the protection is tight, and the kick is up....the kick is good!
I don't give a shit what the NFL says....but college football must follow their lead so 8 assume they will follow whatever the NFL wants.
When will the college PAT be moved back to NFL distance?
How many players will be suspended for fighting and throwing punches after this week's deplorable
Examples of Sportsmanship?
Well Deej it's a live ball situation, had the clock stopped at 1 second like the ref said there was as it was a first down and then started and they ran up to spike the ball time would have run out. There would then have been no attempt to kick a FG. So in effect the replay gave Auburn a FG try. At least that's how I saw it.
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There is no chance of Ohio State getting "Gophered" in Big 10 Championship game. But being Badgered is a possibility.
I don't think Wisconsin could beat OSU in a couple months of Saturdays. No more than Virginia scores more than 10 points on Clemson through the first three quarters.
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The 48 points Auburn scored against Alabama were the most points allowed by a Nick Saban-coached team since 1999. That’s when Drew Brees led Purdue to a 52-28 win against Saban and Michigan State.
The Tide has 101 missed field goals since 2007, the most in the FBS.
Seven different teams have won the ACC Coastal in the past seven years,
That’s every team in the division.
Six teams will play in at least their third consecutive conference championship game. Clemson (2015-19), Georgia (2017-19), Oklahoma (2017-19), Ohio State (2017-19), Boise State (2017-19) and Memphis (2017-19)
Ohio State has defeated four teams that will play in conference championship games.
The Buckeyes beat FAU 45-21, Cincinnati 42-0, Miami (Ohio) 76-5 and Wisconsin 38-7. They’ll have a rematch with the Badgers next week.
Indiana finished with a winning Big Ten record and has eight total wins for the first time since 1993.
The Hoosiers have won at least eight games eight times in school history, and the school-record for wins is nine, last reached in 1967. The Hoosiers will probably get a chance for number 9
In the Pinstripe Bowl against Pittsburgh.
There are 79 Bowl eligible teams for 78 spots. The likely team without a Bowl? Toledo. The Rockets were 6-6 but lost three MAC games to non-eligible Bowl teams.
All that post needed was a picture of the Ohio State tuba player at the end.
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There is no chance of Ohio State getting "Gophered" in Big 10 Championship game. But being Badgered is a possibility.
I don't think Wisconsin could beat OSU in a couple months of Saturdays. No more than Virginia scores more than 10 points on Clemson through the first three quarters.
Yeah. I don't think Wisconsin has much of a chance either. I picked against Ohio State once this season. Likely not again.
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Am I the only one here who was impressed with the way LSU wiped the field with Texas A&M? Or the only one that remembers the game between the Aggies and Clemson earlier in the year?
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I did not get to see the IB this year, but rather than bitching about the refs or a gadget formation, I would focus on the fact that Alabama gave up 48 points to a team quarterbacked by Stevie Nix. Still, having been on the other end of a pissed off Saban Bama team before, I would not want to face them in a Bowl game.
I also did not get to see any of the LSU/TAMU game either, but what stood out to me in reviewing was the 7. Not that TAMU has been an offensive juggernaut this year, but limiting a team to 169 yards total offense for anyone is impressive. The Tiger D has been worse than usual this year, and they will need a performance like that against a team like THE or ClemSIN. As an aside: Burreaux was a nice touch.
God, we nearly lost to Maryland.
Harbaugh clearly did not like the “talent, preparation, coaching” question. Probably because it is all three. Even when it looked like Methchicken was working its way back, as with the PSU, it never occurred to me that Methchicken could take the game. THE could only give it away. One of the articles I read – not sure which – put it aptly: THE is competing with Alabama and ClemSIN. Methchicken is competing with Wisconsin.
Mount Union lost in the second round of the DIII tournament this year for the first time since the Clinton Administration. In fact, the Clinton Administration’s first term: 1994. No current Purple Raider player was alive when that streak began.
Lots of carnage yesterday – Missery, Old Missississippi, BC, South Florida…. But not Clay Helton. Yet.
RIP Pat Sullivan. One of the first players I actively remember watching play.
Relevant Conference Championship games in order of confidence:
Virginia 41, ClemSIN 24
Just kidding. ClemSIN 42, Virginia 7. ClemSIN went through its slough of despond and has come out of it the team we expected them to be. I understand why they are not the top seed. I understand why they are not the second seed. I still expect them to repeat. Virginia may get a mercy score, but no more. I look forward to the matchup against THE. THE has a great defense, but they have not played against a quarterback anywhere as good as Jennifer Lawrence, or a back as good as Etienne.
THE 38, Wisconsin 7
Teams change, grow, learn. College football can be weird. You cannot necessarily use a previous result to predict a future one. But in this case, I see nothing to indicate that the result of the rematch will be any different. THE is moving like a tremendous machine. Secretariat at the Belmont imagery chosen for its aptness. Dobbins has had his best games against THE’s toughest opponents (and us). Fields looks a little banged up but still threw for four touchdowns Saturday. And defensively, they locked down Methchicken in the second half with Young being schemed out most of the game. Actually, from what I saw, Methchicken’s tackles were quick enough to take his speed rush way outside. Something to watch for.
Oklahoma 42, Baylor 17
I take the second half of the first game as my guide. I think Oklahoma has more talent, and it never hurts to rely on that. See what I did there?
Memphis 35, Cinci 31
Did Cinci learn anything from last week? Probably. Will what they learned help them this week? Maybe. Have I learned how to spell Cinncinatti without spell check? Clearly not. It is tough to beat a closely matched team twice in a short period of time. Still, I think Memphis can do it, hallway dog pooped La Quinta and all. Arguably, I have a tough time letting go of irrelevant things. On to the NY6.
Oregon 24, Utah 21
I have really serious questions about this one. Primarily, they revolve around Justin Herbert and his ability to play to his talent level. Utah has been rolling along, offensively and defensively, but they really have not had a big test; the only currently ranked team they played beat them. A win here puts Oregon in the Rose Bowl. A loss will put Oregon… in the Rose Bowl. Lots to play for here….
the Louisiana State 42, Georgia 27
I have no confidence in this pick at all, really. Last Saturday’s suppression of TAMU may be a one-off, and the same could be said for Georgia’s offensive explosion against GTU. I am picking this as iff those two games did not exist. Burrow has the Heisman on lock down, and the defense will do just enough against a sputtering Georgia offense. But I had Georgia as my #2 at the start of the year, and I am a stubborn, stubborn man. I would not be surprised by a Georgia win. Which would be a really interesting bit of uncertainty going into the final Committee meeting. Assuming ClemSIN and THE remain unbeaten and a one loss Georgia as the God’s Conference Champion… Non-champ LSU with a great resume? Oklahoma with a lesser schedule and a four month lethargy? Or Utah, if they beat Oregon for their only impressive win of the season?
Irrelevant Conference Championship games:
Central Michigan 31, Miami of OH-IO 21
In the battle for the Players Not Good Enough to Get Recruited by Freaking Indiana Conference Championship game. If I do the Bowl Pool again this year: I AM PICKING AGAINST EVERY PNGEtGRbFI CONFERENCE TEAM.
Appalachian State 35, Louisiana 27
App State has an outside chance at the NY6, but it would take stumbles by both Memphis and Boise State. I don’t think either stumbles.
Florida Atlantic 35, UAB 27
Will FAU still have its head coach? There are a lot of schools out there who are probably willing to make a mistake and go Kiffining, and I expect he would jump at the opportunity, even this week.
Boise State 38, Hawai’I 17
Hey, nice year for the Rainbows.
Wisconsin-Whitewater 28, Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin-Baylor 21
Two traditional D III powers. UWW is actually, by my count, a total of 5 U’s. That counts for something in my book.
North Central 49, Delaware Valley 38
Delaware Valley is not even in Delaware. NC has a pretty cracker jack offense; 699 yards against the Mount.
Muhlenberg 42, Salisbury 27
I’ll steak my reputation on this one. That reputation being, a guy who will go for a bad joke over accuracy whenever necessary.
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Interesting comparisons pointed out today in the WSJ about how Clemson , Georgia , and LSU stack up in the final rankings. Clemson’s seeding is heavily dependent on the outcome of the LSU/Georgia
SEC CG.
All three had a common opponent; Texas A and M.
Clemson beat the Aggies 24-10.
Georgia beat the Aggies 19-13.
LSU crushed the Aggies by 43 points.
If the committee is faced with using common opponents to separate equal teams then Clemson and Georgia could be pretty close, but the Tigers would not compare well with LSU.
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My expectation:
1. LSU
2. THE
3. ClemSIN
4. Oklahoma
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I also did not get to see any of the LSU/TAMU game either, but what stood out to me in reviewing was the 7. Not that TAMU has been an offensive juggernaut this year, but limiting a team to 169 yards total offense for anyone is impressive.
A and M finished 7-5 with four of its loss to teams ranked in the top 5 before the last week of the regular season: Clemson, Alabama, Georgia, and LSU.
No team in the CFP era has faced a “Murderers Row” schedule like that one.
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Yes, but who is the best team they beat? Old Missississippi State? Losing to those five teams was due to having them on the schedule. It is not indicative of talent.
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I was not expecting Chris Peterson to walk the plank. I wonder what the back story is.
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Yes, but who is the best team they beat? Old Missississippi State? Losing to those five teams was due to having them on the schedule. It is not indicative of talent.
I wasn’t commenting on the Aggies talent level. Just pointing out how the vagaries of scheduling can effect results. And I think it is interesting that Clemson, with the easiest schedule path to the CFP, could have its seeding affected by how it compares to LSU against a 7-5 common opponent.
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Only three games have any intertest to those who like good games:
LSU-Georgia
Utah-Oregon
Clemson-Virginia
In that order.
Big 12, repetitive.
Big Whatever, repetitive and uncompetitive. Not worth your time or your dime.
LSU, Utah, Clem'Son
Of.course you think that, but you are a stupid stupid man.
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I think Ohio State vs. Wisconsin should be much closer than UVA-Clemson.
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I think Ohio State vs. Wisconsin should be much closer than UVA-Clemson.
Yes but you are not a stupid stupid man. And have not used "I was rolled by some guy in an OSU sweatshirt" as an excuse for your disheveled appearance in a New Jersey turnpike restroom so often you believe it actually happened.
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For what it is.worth, ClemSIN is the best and UVa the worst of the 10 power 5 Conference Championship teams.
I'd rank them:
1. ClemSIN
2a. THE
2b. LSU
4..Georgia
5. Oklahoma
6. Utah
7. Oregon
8. Wisconsin
9. Baylor
10. UVa
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You really should seek help, seriously, you need professional help.
I believe psychologists call this "projection" you stupid stupid man.
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What a whining, needy, attention-seeking, jealous little bitch you become I have always been.
fify
I am fine with my team's poor performance. You are an asshole is the issue.
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You are an asshole and a stupid stupid man. You would.be an asshole and a stupid, stupid man if MSU went 12 - 0. The world.would have better off had your father spent the extra 50 cents for the back door option.
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I was not expecting Chris Peterson to walk the plank. I wonder what the back story is.
Florida State?
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And I think Whitewater falls to Hardin Baylor.
You are not the only one that can make stupid jokes old Stevo. Although I have to agree that your stupid jokes are stupider than mine. But then you probably practice more than I do.
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My expectation:
1. LSU
2. THE
3. ClemSIN
4. Oklahoma
I wish, and so does outside the Oxyglobe...
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*everyone outside, I am not kidding the only team that scares people here is LSU...
Literally nobody has said, IDK, that tOSU...
Nobody even brings them up at all...and I can try to be an @sshole, this, I swear...
tOSU is not a thing, nothingburger...
Ridic
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I'd be shocked if a team that lost to both Louisville and Miami gave Clemson a workout for more than a quarter. While I don't usually participate in the "your conference sucks" silliness that goes on here, for all the garbage that's thrown at Big 10 here (which I recognize is mostly just trash-talking directed at Red/ESPN2), the awfulness of the ACC is surprisingly never discussed.
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The only "workout" UVa is likely to give ClemSIN is from the players sprinting down the field to join in the touchdown celebration.
The South Atlantic League is abysmal with a touch of ClemSIN, but no one is as unhinged and deranged about the Conference as that stupid stupid man is about the Big Whatever, and no one here has fantasized about being rolled by guys in Georgia.Tech sweatshirts.
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The Committee showed a lot of love for Utah moving it to fifth. Lots of praise for the Utes’ consistent play on both sides of the ball, even cutting them slack for the loss to USC when Utah running back Zach Moss missed most of the game.
Still, Utah is without a top 25 win so if LSU opens up the fourth spot by beating Georgia the Committee will have to sort out how Utah and Oklahoma/Baylor performed in CG games.
tOSU and LSU will face similar scrutiny after the B1G and SEC title games for the top spot.
Even more interesting will be the B1G Bowl placement. The highest rated league team after the Buckeyes will get the Rose Bowl(if the precedent set in 2015 holds). Right now it is Wisconsin over Penn State 8/10. Does Wisconsin have to win to go to Pasadena ?
If it doesn’t win and PSU moves up then the Badgers have a shot at the Cotton Bowl giving the B1G 3 NYSix Bowls.
The other January 1 Bowls the Citrus gets Michigan’s and Alabama, the Outback Minnesota and Auburn.
And Cincinnati stayed alive for the non power five Bowl(Cotton) if it can beat Memphis.
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Methchicken versus Alabama would be the feature.game in my personal Hell.
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You think that the fact that the Coastal Division has had 6 different champs in 6 years attests to the quality of the ACC? Okay let's say we view that differently.
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I guess your view of quality doesn't apply then to the Atlantic Division which Clemson wins every year. And it's fine by me that when Clemson wins by 50 points this Saturday you will then again talk about the parity, balance and competitiveness of the ACC. But it will sound silly.
You can use profanity. It doesn't bother me.
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And by the way my view of the ACC has nothing to do with Clemson who I view as the best team in the country.
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The MAC has had 8 different teams in their Championship game over the last 4 years. If parity, balance and competitiveness are your quality benchmarks then the MAC is the best Conference in the country. I mean, I have always thought the MAC sucked balls, but then I am not a stupid, stupid man.
I should point out that the stupid, stupid man can't even get his own case right. All seven of the Coastal schools have been to the ACC championship game in 7 years. And lost. Of the Coastal schools, only the Hokies have.ever permanently won the ACC Championship game.
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Appearances School Wins Losses Pct. Year(s) Won Year(s) Lost
7 Clemson 5 1 .833 2011, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 2009
6 Virginia Tech 3 3 .500 2007, 2008, 2010 2005, 2011, 2016
5 Florida State 4 1 .800 2005, 2012, 2013, 2014 2010
4 Georgia Tech
The ACC has more history than the past five years.....look at the BigWhatever track record keeping in mind that ZeroState's dominance is partially obscured by eligibityy problems.
No profanity, YG, would never direct such at a good guy like you.
The Big 10 has had 4 different champions in 8 years.
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And quicker whistles by officials. The NFL officials are much quicker than the college ones in blowing the play dead.
Neither true nor wise in the day and age of replay.
Forward progress is not reviewable so officials have to be sure.
On possible change of possession plays the same holds true. Be sure the fumble( for example) came after being downed or let it play out for the TV cameras to sort out.
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You think that the fact that the Coastal Division has had 6 different champs in 6 years attests to the quality of the ACC? Okay let's say we view that differently.
It’s sort of akin to a one party political state. Sure there are two in name but one always wins the “championship” while the other serves up fodder each year and then gives way to another candidate to try the next year.
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And quicker whistles by officials. The NFL officials are much quicker than the college ones in blowing the play dead.
Neither true nor wise in the day and age of replay.
Forward progress is not reviewable so officials have to be sure.
When a receiver catches a pass near the first down marker the play is reviewed to determine his forward position or progress. Happens all the time.
Different rule. Judging the “ spot “ of the ball can be reviewed.
Stopping a play because the official determined forward progress has been halted is entirely different. Any ensuing action, fumble, breaking free, backward pass, etc would be a moot point if the whistle blew for stopping forward progress.
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Player safety is paramount. Ask anyone who has played THE game.
Jock-sniffing spectators need not opine.
No one is arguing otherwise.
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Was that supposed to be a response?
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Telling that ThE SiameseStupidTwins rely on the MAC of the powerless 5 as a counter example-
the MAC's main purpose throughout its existence has been to serve as a Cupcake and Twinkie factory for the BigWhatever.
I chose the MAC because it is weak, you stupid, stupid man. It shows how stupid, stupid your argument using parity, competitiveness and balance as measure of quality is.
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Clay Helton and USC fight on!
Chris Peterson looks like he is done (his choice) as a coach.
Last chance for real chaos. (Not my prediction)
LSU beats Georgia (well that is)
Virginia beats Clemson
Wisconsin beats tOSU
12-1 non-champion Clemson
12-1 non-champion OSU
12-1 champion Baylor
11-2 champion Wisconsin
11-2 non-champion Georgia
11-2 non-campion Oklahoma
11-2 champion Oregon
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The quality of a cake is judged by how it tastes, not by how much it costs.
The quality of a conference is judged by parity, balance and competitiveness, not by how much one team wins.
The MAC is by that rule the best Conference.
And.the ACC the worst.
You stupid stupid man
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No one SHOULD expect ThE SiameseStupidTwins to understand anything about anything.
FIFMS
Oh, I understand. You are a stupid stupid man who has made a stupid stupid assertion solely because of your hatred of the Big 10 and Ohio State. You stupid stupid man.
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Ding-Ding-Ding, wrong again. No surprise there.
YankGuy made an assertion about the ACC being "awful" and I replied to yankguy.
Yes, and you being a stupid stupid man made a stupid stupid argument.
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I'd be shocked if a team that lost to both Louisville and Miami gave Clemson a workout for more than a quarter. While I don't usually participate in the "your conference sucks" silliness that goes on here, for all the garbage that's thrown at Big 10 here (which I recognize is mostly just trash-talking directed at Red/ESPN2), the awfulness of the ACC is surprisingly never discussed.
Agreed, they are really bad. This year.
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Methchicken versus Alabama would be the feature.game in my personal Hell.
I would pay to watch that game.
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Rule changes for player safety:
Flying wedge.....outlawed
3 guys trying to break the snapper's neck on punts....outlawed
Offensive lineman high-low double team, chop-chop.....outlawed (we don't want these delicate DL men hurt)
Crack-back blocks by wideouts....outlawed
Hitting the punter when he is defenseless....outlawed
Hitting the QB after the ball is thrown....outlawed
Targetting the head of defenseless receivers....outlawed
All ten players on the same side for an on-side kick....outlawed
All good rules for player safety
Needed: pushing and aiding the runner....should be outlawed like it once was.
And quicker whistles by officials. The NFL officials are much quicker than the college ones in blowing the play dead.
The targeting rule sucks as it exists right now. The 'defenseless' receiver rule is moronic. Wanna be safe don't play football, it's a man's game. Well, it used to be a man's game.
But opinions vary my friend.
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One of my favorites was the forearm shiver loved using it, way more effective than the head slap. Jack Tatum was the guy I emulated growing up. I chopped the heads off 100 chickens at the end of every summer. They tasted great. Bite me Burger King.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2865647-army-football-drops-gfbd-from-motto-because-of-white-supremacist-origins?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2865647-army-football-drops-gfbd-from-motto-because-of-white-supremacist-origins?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral
Did I read it wrong? Was the final verdict of the investigation that there was no truth to the rumor?
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2865647-army-football-drops-gfbd-from-motto-because-of-white-supremacist-origins?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral
Did I read it wrong? Was the final verdict of the investigation that there was no truth to the rumor?
there was truth
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Maybe the Commander and Chief can reverse his leaders on their decision to drop the 4 letters from the West Point banner, or have them adopt four others, MAGA.
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I haven't been keeping up with College ball, but its time to engage, so whats the rationale for dicking Utah and keeping them out of the big dance?
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Conference stuff.
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I haven't been keeping up with College ball, but its time to engage, so whats the rationale for dicking Utah and keeping them out of the big dance?
They haven’t.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
They have not beaten a team in the Playoff Ranking top 25. And Bud Wilkerson never coached there.
As I am sure trojan will appreciate, the full genius of Larry Scott will be on display tonight, as the PAWCP have the night to themselves, unencumbered by bothersome fans in attendance or watching at home.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
If anything the Committee has shown a lot of of love for Utah, a team with consistent strong performances but no top 25 wins. The Utes are5th, one spot out of the playoffs with Georgia(3top 25 wins) sitting fourth.
Utah wins the Pac12 and LSU beats the ‘ dawgs the Utes are in.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
They have not beaten a team in the Playoff Ranking top 25. And Bud Wilkerson never coached there.
Clemson only can play who Dabo wants them to play.
oh you meant...
NM
Whoever is #2 and presumably playing Clemson at #3 got a helluva road to a trophy.
If the favs win out there is going to be some serious politicking for the #1 spot.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
Utah wins the Pac12 and LSU beats the ‘ dawgs the Utes are in.
It would seem that way.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
If anything the Committee has shown a lot of of love for Utah, a team with consistent strong performances but no top 25 wins. The Utes are5th, one spot out of the playoffs with Georgia(3top 25 wins) sitting fourth.
Utah wins the Pac12 and LSU beats the ‘ dawgs the Utes are in.
What if LSU beats Georgia, Utah is less than impressive in beating Oregon and Oklahoma destroys Baylor? If each ranking is supposed to be different, does Utah's number 5 and Oklahoma's number 6 then matter?
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
They have not beaten a team in the Playoff Ranking top 25. And Bud Wilkerson never coached there.
Clemson only can play who Dabo wants them to play.
oh you meant...
NM
Whoever is #2 and presumably playing Clemson at #3 got a helluva road to a trophy.
If the favs win out there is going to be some serious politicking for the #1 spot.
Gotta beat ClemSIN eventually to win the title. I am hoping for OSU and ClemSIN in the Fiesta. I think I can get a couple of the tickets they reserve to sell locally.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
If anything the Committee has shown a lot of of love for Utah, a team with consistent strong performances but no top 25 wins. The Utes are5th, one spot out of the playoffs with Georgia(3top 25 wins) sitting fourth.
Utah wins the Pac12 and LSU beats the ‘ dawgs the Utes are in.
What if LSU beats Georgia, Utah is less than impressive in beating Oregon and Oklahoma destroys Baylor? If each ranking is supposed to be different, does Utah's number 5 and Oklahoma's number 6 then matter?
I think the 4 spot is way more open than RedJimm thinks it is.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
If anything the Committee has shown a lot of of love for Utah, a team with consistent strong performances but no top 25 wins. The Utes are5th, one spot out of the playoffs with Georgia(3top 25 wins) sitting fourth.
Utah wins the Pac12 and LSU beats the ‘ dawgs the Utes are in.
What if LSU beats Georgia, Utah is less than impressive in beating Oregon and Oklahoma destroys Baylor? If each ranking is supposed to be different, does Utah's number 5 and Oklahoma's number 6 then matter?
Each ranking is not “supposed” to be different. Each week presents more info to sort through but that does not guarantee a different outcome.
Utah, without a top 25 win, is already ahead of Oklahoma who has a win over ranked Baylor. I don’t think another win over Baylor can push the Sooners past Utah.
Georgia takes at least 4th with a win over LSU.
A loss, in my opinion, puts a Pac12 Champion Utah into 4th place.
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"Supposed to be different" means exactly as you defined it. Meaning that because Utah is ahead of Oklahoma today if both win it doesn't mean they will be tomorrow. I again think (assuming a Georgia loss) that a less than impressive Utah win over Oregon coupled with an impressive Oklahoma win over Baylor makes it a very close call.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
If anything the Committee has shown a lot of of love for Utah, a team with consistent strong performances but no top 25 wins. The Utes are5th, one spot out of the playoffs with Georgia(3top 25 wins) sitting fourth.
Utah wins the Pac12 and LSU beats the ‘ dawgs the Utes are in.
What if LSU beats Georgia, Utah is less than impressive in beating Oregon and Oklahoma destroys Baylor? If each ranking is supposed to be different, does Utah's number 5 and Oklahoma's number 6 then matter?
Each ranking is not “supposed” to be different. Each week presents more info to sort through but that does not guarantee a different outcome.
Utah, without a top 25 win, is already ahead of Oklahoma who has a win over ranked Baylor. I don’t think another win over Baylor can push the Sooners past Utah.
Georgia takes at least 4th with a win over LSU.
A loss, in my opinion, puts a Pac12 Champion Utah into 4th place.
I hope you are right, but Oklahoma if they beat Baylor will have 3 wins over Top 25 teams to Utah's 1. And in terms of additional data points, Baylor is ranked 6 spots above Oregon.
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"Supposed to be different" means exactly as you defined it.
Not if you include my entire quote]
I don’t dispute your view has merit. But you asked a question and I gave my opinion.
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I know they haven't dicked Utah yet, I'm just wondering the rationale for dicking them. Too many cupcakes in the PAC, strength of frosting. etc.
If anything the Committee has shown a lot of of love for Utah, a team with consistent strong performances but no top 25 wins. The Utes are5th, one spot out of the playoffs with Georgia(3top 25 wins) sitting fourth.
Utah wins the Pac12 and LSU beats the ‘ dawgs the Utes are in.
What if LSU beats Georgia, Utah is less than impressive in beating Oregon and Oklahoma destroys Baylor? If each ranking is supposed to be different, does Utah's number 5 and Oklahoma's number 6 then matter?
Each ranking is not “supposed” to be different. Each week presents more info to sort through but that does not guarantee a different outcome.
Utah, without a top 25 win, is already ahead of Oklahoma who has a win over ranked Baylor. I don’t think another win over Baylor can push the Sooners past Utah.
Georgia takes at least 4th with a win over LSU.
A loss, in my opinion, puts a Pac12 Champion Utah into 4th place.
I hope you are right, but Oklahoma if they beat Baylor will have 3 wins over Top 25 teams to Utah's 1. And in terms of additional data points, Baylor is ranked 6 spots above Oregon.
The way I read the Committee it has already put Utah ( 0 top 25 wins) ahead of Oklahoma (2 top 25 wins). I just wonder how another Sooner win over the Bears would make the Committee swap the two.
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The 6 slot difference between Baylor and Oregon? If Oklahoma has a statement win and Utah struggles in what promises to be crappy weather?
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I haven't been keeping up with College ball, but its time to engage, so whats the rationale for dicking Utah and keeping them out of the big dance?
They lost to Oregon? I mean, if they lose to Oregon. If they win over Oregon it seems like the Committee might have them fast-tracked to take the 4th spot. Assuming LSU takes care of business.
But if Georgia upsets the apple cart? Hmmm. Well, me personally I'd once again have two SEC teams in there. And as I've done in the past I'd base it on who LSU lost to and who Utah lost to. And who Oklahoma lost to. Now if Utah puts a pasting on Oregon I might think differently. But even still LSU has faced 5 Top 25 teams and Utah 2. With LSU going 4-1 and Utah going 2-0.
I just don't see how Utah slides in. Unless they paste Oregon and LSU gets slammed by Georgia. But hey, it's an opinion.
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And I think Oregon is going to beat Utah anyways.
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The 6 slot difference between Baylor and Oregon? If Oklahoma has a statement win and Utah struggles in what promises to be crappy weather?
If Utah wins in crappy weather I don’t see how they get dinged.
I just think the Committee sees the Utes closer to Georgia than Oklahoma.
Remember it took losses by Alabama and Minnesota to let the Big12 teams move up.
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I haven't been keeping up with College ball, but its time to engage, so whats the rationale for dicking Utah and keeping them out of the big dance?
But if Georgia upsets the apple cart? Hmmm. Well, me personally I'd once again have two SEC teams in there.
So does anybody and everybody who has been following the CFP.
The Committee has no intention of dropping LSU out of the playoff if it loses to Georgia
None.
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I haven't been keeping up with College ball, but its time to engage, so whats the rationale for dicking Utah and keeping them out of the big dance?
But if Georgia upsets the apple cart? Hmmm. Well, me personally I'd once again have two SEC teams in there.
So does anybody and everybody who has been following the CFP.
The Committee has no intention of dropping LSU out of the playoff if it loses to Georgia
None.
Maybe. I have been of the believe it when I see it on non champs getting in over one loss champs persuasion, but LSU will have the same record, and the champion thing is only considered if the teams are close. If Georgia beats LSU or THE loses to Wisky or ClemSIN loses to UVa I bet they would all get in, even if Utah wins. The Committee has already shown they do not value a 2 loss team, champion or not, the same as a one loss team which knocks out Wisky and UVa, and the strength of competition for THE and LSU and the eye test for THE, LSU and ClemSIN would certainly favor them over Utah or Oklaylor with identical 12 - 1 records.
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I haven't been keeping up with College ball, but its time to engage, so whats the rationale for dicking Utah and keeping them out of the big dance?
But if Georgia upsets the apple cart? Hmmm. Well, me personally I'd once again have two SEC teams in there.
So does anybody and everybody who has been following the CFP.
The Committee has no intention of dropping LSU out of the playoff if it loses to Georgia
None.
Maybe. I have been of the believe it when I see it on non champs getting in over one loss champs persuasion, but LSU will have the same record, and the champion thing is only considered if the teams are close. If Georgia beats LSU or THE loses to Wisky or ClemSIN loses to UVa I bet they would all get in, even if Utah wins. The Committee has already shown they do not value a 2 loss team, champion or not, the same as a one loss team which knocks out Wisky and UVa, and the strength of competition for THE and LSU and the eye test for THE, LSU and ClemSIN would certainly favor them over Utah or Oklaylor with identical 12 - 1 records.
So why the word “ Maybe”?
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Residual doubt.
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Never underestimate the power of residual doubt.
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Ducks OL came to play.
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#5 for Oregon is something else.
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Have I said lately that the targeting rule sucks?
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The Utes could use a score of some kind.
Yes it is advisable to finish with more than 0 points you stupid stupid man.
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Hard to explain how tonight’s Oregon team was so woeful in Tempe on November 23.
But a trip to Pasadena to cap a 11-2
season is pretty sweet.
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Note to StevieWonderDick: Now Go Fuck yourself, you really stupid, really stupid, Little Whining Bitch.
You stupid, stupid inarticulate man.
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Cap, 6 -year contract for Franklin....any opinion?
He wins games, he recruits well. We would have worse, we could have better. He's passionate about his job. Haven't seen the contract.
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As I thought the Ducks handled Utah. Now the Utah question is moot.
On to the next question. Baylor/Oklahoma? Do they have a shot if LSU loses a tight one? Do they have a shot if LSU gets their doors blown off?
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Cap, 6 -year contract for Franklin....any opinion?
He wins games, he recruits well. We would have worse, we could have better. He's passionate about his job. Haven't seen the contract.
He has also done.something Jim Harbaugh cannot: Beat THE.
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As I thought the Ducks handled Utah. Now the Utah question is moot.
On to the next question. Baylor/Oklahoma? Do they have a shot if LSU loses a tight one? Do they have a shot if LSU gets their doors blown off?
I really hope the Committee does not sit a one loss champ in favor of a non-champ, but the probably would.
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As I thought the Ducks handled Utah. Now the Utah question is moot.
On to the next question. Baylor/Oklahoma? Do they have a shot if LSU loses a tight one? Do they have a shot if LSU gets their doors blown off?
I really hope the Committee does not sit a one loss champ in favor of a non-champ, but the probably would.
One part of me agrees with you in a pure Power Five stratification sense. But that common sense part of me nags.
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As I thought the Ducks handled Utah. Now the Utah question is moot.
On to the next question. Baylor/Oklahoma? Do they have a shot if LSU loses a tight one? Do they have a shot if LSU gets their doors blown off?
I really hope the Committee does not sit a one loss champ in favor of a non-champ, but the probably would.
One part of me agrees with you in a pure Power Five stratification sense. But that common sense part of me nags.
Well remember, I have always felt the playoffs should only involve conference champs. The committee.so far has only elevated a non champ with fewer losses on the basis that the second loss makes the teams not.comparable, which is why Wisky is out regardless. If Baylor were to win, given their egregious OOC schedule and eye test issues, I can see LSU jumping them. If LSU wins, it is all moot. THE will get in over Wisky even if they lose. ClemSIN gets in even if they lose to UVa.
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As I thought the Ducks handled Utah. Now the Utah question is moot.
On to the next question. Baylor/Oklahoma? Do they have a shot if LSU loses a tight one? Do they have a shot if LSU gets their doors blown off?
I really hope the Committee does not sit a one loss champ in favor of a non-champ, but the probably would.
I don’t see a Big12 path other than by a Georgia loss.
Neither Baylor nor Oklahoma can match the body of work of tOSU,LSU, and Clemson.
Kind of sad to see Utah fail badly for the Pac12. (The Ducks owned both sides of the ball all night long)
The league makes it tough to win the conference since the winner is almost required to go 10-0 to attract attention(although Utah had the Committee’s eye until last night’s blowout)
And consider if Oregon had substituted Rice for Auburn the Ducks/Utah CG win would have been a shining moment for the league and rendered today’s Baylor/Okla game meaningless for the possible final 4 spot.
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Neither Baylor nor Oklahoma can match the body of work of tOSU,LSU, and Clemson.
That's exactly right.
Even if LSU loses to #4 Georgia they've proven to me they belong as a final-4 team.
the same is true of Clemson and Ohio State but to a slighly less and probably irrelevant degree as I can't see either of those teams losing today.
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Zeno as a quarterback seems rather paradoxical.
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Georgia is fortunate I think to only be down by 2TDs.
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Steve Largent wannabe.
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That's a dagger. Dawgs in real trouble now.
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And that may be the death stroke. Great instinctive jumping the route there.
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Cue the Dandy Don Meredith music
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I would say OSU has to totally pulverize Wisconsin to hang on to their #1 spot. Which means if they didn't then they'd get Clemson? EEEEK!
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And that may be the death stroke. Great instinctive jumping the route there.
They were dead when they didn't hold them to three points the last time. And Burreaux had.the stiff arm coming into the game and.to understate it drastically he has done nothing to change that.
They will be the #1 seed regardless of what THE or ClemSIN do. And while I have doubted Georgia's offense this year, the shut down is impressive. They play this defense,.the might be better than ClemSIN.
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If Burrow wins the ridiculous trophy.....what % do theSiameseStupdTwins claim
For ZeroState...50, 75 or 90%?
You are a really remarkably stupid, stupid man.
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I would say OSU has to totally pulverize Wisconsin to hang on to their #1 spot. Which means if they didn't then they'd get Clemson? EEEEK!
THE.and ClemSIN will be a great game.
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As predicted (in my head), LSU would smokeshow a team that lost to tUSC, and be #1 vs. whoever comes out of 2-3, fucking bring it!! I will be in a bar in New Orleans either way, but so will half our team...!!
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IKR?
31-6??
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Hey man, if Clemsin can be just be Clemson, put your chip in the bucket, or hey, Roy will take you back home to Pickens County, hey, look, we have to strap on a strap on just like the next guy...
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LSU just ripped what I think is one of the Top 3 defenses in the nation. The OSU and/or the Clemson DCs have a job on their hands.
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LSU just ripped what I think is one of the Top 3 defenses in the nation. The OSU and/or the Clemson DCs have a job on their hands.
Not to mention Oklahoma's.
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ClemSIN looking vulnerable early....
Regardless of what happens, there will be only 4 teams with 1 loss or fewer by the end of the day. Which makes the Committee's job seeding. I think the LSU is a lock for the 1. Oklahoma is the 4, I think, even if THE or ClemSIN lose. Looking in to the Fiesta Bowl tickets.
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LSU just ripped what I think is one of the Top 3 defenses in the nation. The OSU and/or the Clemson DCs have a job on their hands.
Offense wins championships.
You stupid stu... wait, you have a point. Today's college football is way more offense dependent than it was.even five years ago.
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I would say OSU has to totally pulverize Wisconsin to hang on to their #1 spot. Which means if they didn't then they'd get Clemson? EEEEK!
THE.and ClemSIN will be a great game.
Starting to salivate just anticipating it.
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LSU just ripped what I think is one of the Top 3 defenses in the nation. The OSU and/or the Clemson DCs have a job on their hands.
Not to mention Oklahoma's.
Georgia's offense sucks turnips. Oklahoma might be able to keep up scoring-wise. It'll be no cakewalk I think for LSU against the Sooners.
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No dipshit. Pooch, pin them deep, stop them, get the ball back.
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Don't think he made it. But they'll probably give it to them since the ref spotted it wrong in the first place.
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LOL
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And CLEM was not vulnerable, ever, at all.
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And LOL again.
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Clemson and Virginia play two different sports.
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Nice throw.
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Yes.
What’s up with the suicide sh!t?
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All you can care to Etienne??
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More LOLing. Nice game, I like it.
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what a punch in the mouth answer to tOSU's score
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tOSU??
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tOSU??
its like TOFU except made with corn fed beef
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More silly,stupid,stupid talk..,
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Tough nite for the Cavs, earlier this evening 76ers beat Cavs by 47.
With a couple of turnovers and disregard for mercy rules Clemson might beat Cavs by 50
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And what??
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up 24 and they go into a triple flee-flicker?
does it make a difference if they're #2 or #3
do they get to choose unis if theyre #2?
run it up
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I got it as
1-LSU
2-tOSU
3-Clemson
4-OK
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But I think that’s everybody now, right?
Let’s get it on.
Sucks winner of 2-3 playing LSU in New Orleans, but that’s it, right?
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I got it as
1-LSU
2-tOSU
3-Clemson
4-OK
I think the only real questions left are things like, who gets the Rose Bowl, the Penn State or Wisconsin? Does Boise jump Memphis? Utah or a third Big Whatever, and as a result, the Quick Lane or the Pinheadstripe?
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UWW took down Mary Hardin-Baylor. The last time any team besides UWW, MH-B or the Mount won DIII was 2004.
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I got it as
1-LSU
2-tOSU
3-Clemson
4-OK
I think the only real questions left are things like, who gets the Rose Bowl, the Penn State or Wisconsin? Does Boise jump Memphis? Utah or a third Big Whatever, and as a result, the Quick Lane or the Pinheadstripe?
I t
I think Wisky gets the Rose and Penn State the Cotton against Memphis. MSU will likely end up in New York.
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Yes.
What’s up with the suicide sh!t?
Artificial intelligence. And Man's suicide wish to create it.
Now I've got to get a new tagline. LOL
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I got it as
1-LSU
2-tOSU
3-Clemson
4-OK
I think the only real questions left are things like, who gets the Rose Bowl, the Penn State or Wisconsin? Does Boise jump Memphis? Utah or a third Big Whatever, and as a result, the Quick Lane or the Pinheadstripe?
And does Oklahoma surprise LSU?
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UWW took down Mary Hardin-Baylor. The last time any team besides UWW, MH-B or the Mount won DIII was 2004.
Good call on that BTW Stevo.
Do you think Muhlenberg has any shot at North Central?
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I got it as
1-LSU
2-tOSU
3-Clemson
4-OK
I think the only real questions left are things like, who gets the Rose Bowl, the Penn State or Wisconsin? Does Boise jump Memphis? Utah or a third Big Whatever, and as a result, the Quick Lane or the Pinheadstripe?
And does Oklahoma surprise LSU?
My picks will be out later. But... no.
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UWW took down Mary Hardin-Baylor. The last time any team besides UWW, MH-B or the Mount won DIII was 2004.
Good call on that BTW Stevo.
Do you think Muhlenberg has any shot at North Central?
Can't say yet. So hard to get a grip on DIII out here where it pretty much does not exist.
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Citrus Bowl looks interesting. Last time Bama missed a premier Bowl and played a Michigan school in a second tier game it was... not pretty.
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Yes.
What’s up with the suicide sh!t?
Artificial intelligence. And Man's suicide wish to create it.
Now I've got to get a new tagline. LOL
I get it now, but creating the elements necessary for your own demise might be distinct from suicide defined, bid.
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Utah's loss takes them from the Playoffs to... the Alamo Bowl. Boy, the PAWCP have a crappy set of Bowl games.
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As I suspected ZeroState would go to their another Shoe out west and get the Tigers as far away from home as they have been all year.
There were only two choices, doofus, in a rotation determined years ago. LSU got to stay closer to home because they got the 1 seed. THE would have gone to ATL had they been 1 because it is closer.
There are a lot of THE alum in ATL too. They are everywhere, spread out over the landscape like locusts, or Snopeses.
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If they made THE the 1 you would have.said they were doing it to avoid ClemSIN.
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DeeJ: Winner, Tigers, just don’t know which one...
Honestly if you go into the South, nobody, and I mean nobody talks about tOSU other than “yeah, they got a pretty good D...”
That’s it.
Purchasing CROW TO EAT OR DELIVER...
WISCO lost to Illinois. 😂😂😂💩💩
We didn’t lose to or play anybody and we won’t until I’m eating fucking crawdads...
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And, I will make you this promise.
You won’t be embarrassed by the Bayou Bengals.
That’s all I can help you with.
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DeeJ: Winner, Tigers, just don’t know which one...
Honestly if you go into the South, nobody, and I mean nobody talks about tOSU other than “yeah, they got a pretty good D...”
That’s it.
Purchasing CROW TO EAT OR DELIVER...
WISCO lost to Illinois. 😂😂😂💩💩
We didn’t lose to or play anybody and we won’t until I’m eating fucking crawdads...
I wish you the best, JB, up north in SnowGlobe world they are wearing T-shirts that say:
Ohio against THE World. They tell themselves how disrespected they have been treated and they
are out to win at all costs or "know the reason why!!"
They are also out to revenge their last tango with THE Tigers, 31-0!
They are playing Hold them Tigers music at full blast during practices which last 6 hours a day
With two on Sundays.
The one-trick BadGirls shot their wad in the first half and rolled over dead the second half.
ZeroState has NOT faced anything close to the speed your team has. But, I can assure you they
are the fastest team in the BigWhatever. They are not a team that will beat themselves, and they
are the dirtiest program since the CandyCanes folded their tent 20 years ago. (BTW! How many titles have the CandyCanes won since joining the ACC?, Zero?)
Best of luck to THE Tigers!
Yes, we are in you’re head, and that’s a YOU PROBLEM, love it, buh-bye...
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DeeJ: Winner, Tigers, just don’t know which one...
Honestly if you go into the South, nobody, and I mean nobody talks about tOSU other than “yeah, they got a pretty good D...”
That’s it.
Purchasing CROW TO EAT OR DELIVER...
WISCO lost to Illinois. 😂😂😂💩💩
We didn’t lose to or play anybody and we won’t until I’m eating fucking crawdads...
UVa lost to Miami. The bad one. THE and ClemSIN didn't lose to anyone.
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How long is Dabo going to play the "lack of respect" card?
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As I suspected ZeroState would go to their another Shoe out west and get the Tigers as far away from home as they have been all year. LSU vs Oklahoma pairs Hurt against a team he knows well.
Should be a lot of offense in both semi's. So who has the best defense that is likely to step up?
I will leave that to the Defensive guru of Elba, ElCapitan, to analyse.
I will just repeat what I observed of the Clem'Son pass rush, if they don't get some pressure on the BuckNut QB, this could be a game decided by who has the ball last.
Saw the highlight of the BuckNut last hit on the BadGirl QB with no time left on the clock and the game won. Why there was no flag for targetting I have no idea except the two officials right there looked at each other and said "game over. Let's get out of here". Just another display of dirty/cheapshot artistry from the BuckNuts. Likely a Tatum Award for #41?
Note to Clemson: there will be BuckNut bounties on your QB as well as the "traitor" (BuckNut talk) for Burrow, if the Nuts beat the Tigers in AridZona.
Bowl games are the college equivalent of "trophies and awards for everyone" at the Pop Warner level. Mediocrity and the scheduling of cupcakes must be rewarded.
Army-Navy next week.
The committee had an easy Week thanks to the PAC12 and NotreDame being irrelevant.
Final: LSU v ZeroState, Clemson has been too fat and happy for too long. Sorry JB.
Champs will be Tigers.
OSU does not match-up well offensively against Clemson's defense IMO. I am not as impressed by Fields as much as some others. Not to say he isn't a good QB. But I question his long game and his ability to locate secondary targets. Now if as you say Clemson fails to put sufficient pressure on him then that would seem work work in favor of my perceived flaws in his game. I think OSU has the defense to hang with Clemson though. Something they haven't had in the past. I know their D doesn't concern JB much. But it should, all bravado aside.
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How long is Dabo going to play the "lack of respect" card?
As long as it works.
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I think Clemson has too much overall for Ohio State. And it seems to me that with all the talk about how great and revolutionary Young is, I believe both Bosas were better.
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As I suspected ZeroState would go to their another Shoe out west and get the Tigers as far away from home as they have been all year. LSU vs Oklahoma pairs Hurt against a team he knows well.
Should be a lot of offense in both semi's. So who has the best defense that is likely to step up?
I will leave that to the Defensive guru of Elba, ElCapitan, to analyse.
I will just repeat what I observed of the Clem'Son pass rush, if they don't get some pressure on the BuckNut QB, this could be a game decided by who has the ball last.
Saw the highlight of the BuckNut last hit on the BadGirl QB with no time left on the clock and the game won. Why there was no flag for targetting I have no idea except the two officials right there looked at each other and said "game over. Let's get out of here". Just another display of dirty/cheapshot artistry from the BuckNuts. Likely a Tatum Award for #41?
Note to Clemson: there will be BuckNut bounties on your QB as well as the "traitor" (BuckNut talk) for Burrow, if the Nuts beat the Tigers in AridZona.
Bowl games are the college equivalent of "trophies and awards for everyone" at the Pop Warner level. Mediocrity and the scheduling of cupcakes must be rewarded.
Army-Navy next week.
The committee had an easy Week thanks to the PAC12 and NotreDame being irrelevant.
Final: LSU v ZeroState, Clemson has been too fat and happy for too long. Sorry JB.
Champs will be Tigers.
OSU does not match-up well offensively against Clemson's defense IMO. I am not as impressed by Fields as much as some others. Not to say he isn't a good QB. But I question his long game and his ability to locate secondary targets. Now if as you say Clemson fails to put sufficient pressure on him then that would seem work work in favor of my perceived flaws in his game. I think OSU has the defense to hang with Clemson though. Something they haven't had in the past. I know their D doesn't concern JB much. But it should, all bravado aside.
I think Fields is the best QB and Dobbins the best RB ClemSIN has faced all year. Probably THE has the best O line and receivers too. But then, except maybe the line, you can say the same about ClemSIN.
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The complete bowl line up:
DECEMBER 20
Bahamas Bowl
Charlotte vs. Buffalo
Frisco Bowl
Kent State vs. Utah State
DECEMBER 21
New Mexico Bowl
Central Michigan vs. San Diego State
Cure Bowl
Liberty vs. Georgia Southern
Boca Raton Bowl
Florida Atlantic vs. SMU
Camellia Bowl
Florida International vs. Arkansas State
Las Vegas Bowl
Boise State vs. Washington
New Orleans Bowl
Alabama-Birmingham vs. Appalachian State
DECEMBER 23
Gasparilla Bowl
Marshall vs. Central Florida
DECEMBER 24
Hawaii Bowl
BYU vs. Hawaii
DECEMBER 26
Independence Bowl
Miami (Fla.) vs. Louisiana Tech
Quick Lane Bowl
Eastern Michigan vs. Pittsburgh
Military Bowl
North Carolina vs. Temple
DECEMBER 27
Pinstripe Bowl
Wake Forest vs. Michigan State
Texas Bowl
Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M
Holiday Bowl
Iowa vs. Southern California
Cheez-It Bowl
Air Force vs. Washington State
DECEMBER 28
Camping World Bowl
Notre Dame vs. Iowa State
Cotton Bowl
Penn State vs. Memphis
Peach Bowl
LSU vs. Oklahoma
Fiesta Bowl
Ohio State vs. Clemson
DECEMBER 30
First Responder Bowl
Western Michigan vs. Western Kentucky
Redbox Bowl
Illinois vs. California
Music City Bowl
Louisville vs. Mississippi State
Orange Bowl
Virginia vs. Florida
DECEMBER 31
Belk Bowl
Virginia Tech vs. Kentucky
Sun Bowl
Florida State vs. Arizona State
Liberty Bowl
Kansas State vs. Navy
Arizona Bowl
Wyoming vs. Georgia State
Alamo Bowl
Utah vs. Texas
JANUARY 1
Citrus Bowl
Alabama vs. Michigan
Outback Bowl
Minnesota vs. Auburn
Rose Bowl
Wisconsin vs. Oregon
Sugar Bowl
Baylor vs. Georgia
JANUARY 2
Birmingham Bowl
Boston College vs. Cincinnati
Gator Bowl
Indiana vs. Tennessee
JANUARY 3
Idaho Potato Bowl
Ohio vs. Nevada, ESPN
JANUARY 4
Armed Forces Bowl
Southern Mississippi vs. Tulane
JANUARY 6
Mobile Bowl
Miami (Ohio) vs. Louisiana-Lafayette
JANUARY 13
College Football Playoff title game
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And I know both teams have good D's, but after 13 games a good offense is usually clicking on all cylinders which is why I expect each team scoring in the thirties and low forties.
44- 32
I'm looking for a low scoring game in the first half. Don't know what the under is in the first half but I'd lean towards taking it. And then take the over for the second half. North Carolina and Tex A&N probably had the best defenses Clemson faced, OSU's defense is better. Still in these games you just never fruckin know for sure.
As to LSU/Oklahoma this is probably the best offense the Tigers have faced this year. If you want to beat LSU you had better be able to put up 35+ points on them. LSU's defense is quirky. If Oklahoma can get some edge action going on in the short game it will be on. Lamb has to be smothered on every play. Personally I think he's more agile than fast, but in today's game agility gets you open.
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The complete bowl line up:
DECEMBER 20
Bahamas Bowl
Charlotte vs. Buffalo
Frisco Bowl
Kent State vs. Utah State
DECEMBER 21
New Mexico Bowl
Central Michigan vs. San Diego State
Cure Bowl
Liberty vs. Georgia Southern
Boca Raton Bowl
Florida Atlantic vs. SMU
Camellia Bowl
Florida International vs. Arkansas State
Las Vegas Bowl
Boise State vs. Washington
New Orleans Bowl
Alabama-Birmingham vs. Appalachian State
DECEMBER 23
Gasparilla Bowl
Marshall vs. Central Florida
DECEMBER 24
Hawaii Bowl
BYU vs. Hawaii
DECEMBER 26
Independence Bowl
Miami (Fla.) vs. Louisiana Tech
Quick Lane Bowl
Eastern Michigan vs. Pittsburgh
Military Bowl
North Carolina vs. Temple
DECEMBER 27
Pinstripe Bowl
Wake Forest vs. Michigan State
Texas Bowl
Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M
Holiday Bowl
Iowa vs. Southern California
Cheez-It Bowl
Air Force vs. Washington State
DECEMBER 28
Camping World Bowl
Notre Dame vs. Iowa State
Cotton Bowl
Penn State vs. Memphis
Peach Bowl
LSU vs. Oklahoma
Fiesta Bowl
Ohio State vs. Clemson
DECEMBER 30
First Responder Bowl
Western Michigan vs. Western Kentucky
Redbox Bowl
Illinois vs. California
Music City Bowl
Louisville vs. Mississippi State
Orange Bowl
Virginia vs. Florida
DECEMBER 31
Belk Bowl
Virginia Tech vs. Kentucky
Sun Bowl
Florida State vs. Arizona State
Liberty Bowl
Kansas State vs. Navy
Arizona Bowl
Wyoming vs. Georgia State
Alamo Bowl
Utah vs. Texas
JANUARY 1
Citrus Bowl
Alabama vs. Michigan
Outback Bowl
Minnesota vs. Auburn
Rose Bowl
Wisconsin vs. Oregon
Sugar Bowl
Baylor vs. Georgia
JANUARY 2
Birmingham Bowl
Boston College vs. Cincinnati
Gator Bowl
Indiana vs. Tennessee
JANUARY 3
Idaho Potato Bowl
Ohio vs. Nevada, ESPN
JANUARY 4
Armed Forces Bowl
Southern Mississippi vs. Tulane
JANUARY 6
Mobile Bowl
Miami (Ohio) vs. Louisiana-Lafayette
JANUARY 13
College Football Playoff title game
If I was a fan of Buffalo I I'd be booking my tickets right now and sipping a run drink
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The complete bowl line up:
Picking and choosing among the reasons to watch
DECEMBER 20
Bahamas Bowl
Charlotte vs. Buffalo
Charlotte’s first Bowl experience and Buffalo’s escape from the frigid northeast to Nassau!
Will any of the players care about the game.?
Frisco Bowl
Kent State vs. Utah State
Kent has never, ever, won a Bowl Fame. A win could finally erase the memory of its loss to Delaware in the 1954 Refrigerator Bowl.
DECEMBER 21
Las Vegas Bowl
Boise State vs. Washington
Chris Peterson hangs it up against the program he coached that lifted the non-power five teams to the spotlight.
DECEMBER 27
Pinstripe Bowl
Wake Forest vs. Michigan State
Traditionally both teams get to help ring the closing bell on Wall Street
Will the game provide Mark Dantonio’s stock value a reason to go up?
Texas Bowl
Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M
Can the Aggies convince Houston people that it is now an SEC town?
Holiday Bowl
Iowa vs. Southern California
Can the Hawkeye Cornheads fans outdraw the angst -ridden Clay Helton reluctants to San Diego?
Camping World Bowl
Notre Dame vs. Iowa State
How did Notre Dame wind up in a junior Orlando Bowl against an unranked team?
Cotton Bowl
Penn State vs. Memphis
The Nittany Lions might want to note that in this David-vs-Goliath Bowl the non-power five teams are 6-4 over the last ten years.
Fiesta Bowl
Ohio State vs. Clemson
The most awesome matchup of them all.
There has never been a CFP semifinal matchup of two 13-0 teams.
Redbox Bowl
Illinois vs. California
Good luck picking this one. Illinois lost to 3-9 Nothwestern but beat 10-3 Wisconsin.
Orange Bowl
Virginia vs. Florida
Two teams wearing Orange playing in the Orange Bowl. One of them is way over its head
January 1
Citrus Bowl
Alabama vs. Michigan
Two legendary programs , two disappointing seasons
Can Jim Harbaugh finally beat a former powerhouse, even if ‘Bama is playing its second team?
Outback Bowl
Minnesota vs. Auburn
The Tigers have to be frustrated. The Gophers have to be excited.
Rose Bowl
Wisconsin vs. Oregon
Can Jonathan Taylor end his career with a Ron Dayne-like day in Pasadena ?
Can the Badgers stop Duck QB C.J. Verdell?
Sugar Bowl
Baylor vs. Georgia
I hope the Bears rise to the occasion. It’s a setting they don’t deserve.
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Nice discussion, no sarcasm, but I think Simmons is better than Young, and he arrived at CLEM to play track at 155 lb., he is now 6’4”, 230, sick, but yeah, it’s on, I think they have a D, but who has scored on us and who haven’t we scored on??
You going to hold us to 24??
Ain’t no fucking way brah...
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You going to put up 30, ain’t no fucking way brah...
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Got my Fiesta Bowl tickets. Seats suck, but they are in the building and the stand that sells bomber sized beers is just around the corner just in case.
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Complete Bowl Line-Up with Odds
DECEMBER 20
Bahamas Bowl
Charlotte vs. Buffalo (-5)
Frisco Bowl
Kent State vs. Utah State (-9)
DECEMBER 21
New Mexico Bowl
Central Michigan vs. San Diego State(-4)
Cure Bowl
Liberty vs. Georgia Southern (-6)
Boca Raton Bowl
Florida Atlantic vs. SMU(-3)
Camellia Bowl
Florida International vs. Arkansas State(-3)
Las Vegas Bowl
Boise State vs. Washington (-3.5)
New Orleans Bowl
Alabama-Birmingham vs. Appalachian State (-17)
DECEMBER 23
Gasparilla Bowl
Marshall vs. Central Florida (-17)
DECEMBER 24
Hawaii Bowl
BYU vs. Hawaii (+7.5)
DECEMBER 26
Independence Bowl
Miami (Fla.) vs. Louisiana Tech (+7.5)
Quick Lane Bowl
Eastern Michigan vs. Pittsburgh (-11)
Military Bowl
North Carolina vs. Temple(+5.5)
DECEMBER 27
Pinstripe Bowl
Wake Forest vs. Michigan State(-3.5)
Texas Bowl
Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M (-5.5)
Holiday Bowl
Iowa vs. Southern California(+1)
Cheez-It Bowl
Air Force vs. Washington State(+2.5)
DECEMBER 28
Camping World Bowl
Notre Dame vs. Iowa State(+.4)
Cotton Bowl
Penn State vs. Memphis (+7)
Peach Bowl
LSU vs. Oklahoma (+13)
Fiesta Bowl
Ohio State vs. Clemson (-2)
DECEMBER 30
First Responder Bowl
Western Michigan vs. Western Kentucky (-2.5)
Redbox Bowl
Illinois vs. California (-6.5)
Music City Bowl
Louisville vs. Mississippi State (-3)
Orange Bowl
Virginia vs. Florida(-13.5)
DECEMBER 31
Belk Bowl
Virginia Tech vs. Kentucky(+3)
Sun Bowl
Florida State vs. Arizona State (-5.5)
Liberty Bowl
Kansas State vs. Navy(-1)
Arizona Bowl
Wyoming vs. Georgia State (+7)
Alamo Bowl
Utah vs. Texas(+7)
JANUARY 1
Citrus Bowl
Alabama vs. Michigan (-7)
Outback Bowl
Minnesota vs. Auburn (-7.5)
Rose Bowl
Wisconsin vs. Oregon(-2.5)
Sugar Bowl
Baylor vs. Georgia (-7)
JANUARY 2
Birmingham Bowl
Boston College vs. Cincinnati (-6.5)
Gator Bowl
Indiana vs. Tennessee(-1.5)
JANUARY 3
Idaho Potato Bowl
Ohio vs. Nevada, (+7)
JANUARY 4
Armed Forces Bowl
Southern Mississippi vs. Tulane (-6.5)
JANUARY 6
Mobile Bowl
Miami (Ohio) vs. Louisiana-Lafayette (-4)
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DECEMBER 20
Bahamas Bowl
Charlotte vs. Buffalo
Khalil Mack’s brother plays for Buffalo. They have more experience, and a strong running game. They also play in the MAC, and I am not taking any MAC teams. None. Charlotte.
Frisco Bowl
Kent State vs. Utah State
Kent’s QB is Crumy. I Love USU’s QB. Kent is traditionally a notoriously awful team by MAC standards, so it is nice to see them in a bowl. They have never won a bowl game, and it would be nice to see them win. But they are a MAC team and I am not picking them. USU.
DECEMBER 21
New Mexico Bowl
Central Michigan vs. San Diego State
Central Michigan was the first of several colleges my mother went to. She left after one year because she partied too much and studied too little. Learning this made me view my mom in an altogether new and unsettling light. Anyway, I think SDS can clamp down on CMU’s offense and besides, MAC rule. San Diego State
Cure Bowl
Liberty vs. Georgia Southern
Georgia Southern has a strong run game, and frankly any team that was founded by Jerry Falwell, whose evil-bloated soul is burning in Hell fire for all eternity, and employs Hugh Freeze deserves a public ass kicking. Georgia Southern
Boca Raton Bowl
Florida Atlantic vs. SMU
Actually, this could be a pretty good game, even if it off the radar: two strong Gang of Five teams. Both feature strong offenses, but Kiffin having Kiffined may make a difference. SMU
Camellia Bowl
Florida International vs. Arkansas State
I think this is the worst game on the bowl schedule. FIU has not won a game outside of the greater Miami area all year. Works as a decision point for me. Arkansas State
Las Vegas Bowl
Boise State vs. Washington
A fitting way for Peterson to bow out, against the team he lead to fame. Probably completely unintentional. I have thought Washington seemed out of sorts the games I saw. Boise State
New Orleans Bowl
Alabama-Birmingham vs. Appalachian State
App State is suffering the fate of successful Gang of 5 teams: probably playing the bowl with an interim coach, their current coach heading for Misery. Still think they have superior talent, whoever coaches them. App State
DECEMBER 23
Gasparilla Bowl
Marshall vs. Central Florida
As an aside, I had assumed Gasparilla was the sponsor, and that it was something like a more highly carbonated version of Sarsaparilla. Apparently not. CFU has had, by their standards, a disappointing year. Still, pick the talent, and CFU has more of it than Marshall. Central Florida
DECEMBER 24
Hawaii Bowl
BYU vs. Hawaii
If you were the Hawai’i Bowl, why would you invite Hawai’i? I know it is a bear for alumni travel, but you cannot be drawing much tourist money this way. And what is the reward for Hawai’i in this bowl? They don’t make you leave Hawai’i? Actually…. Anyway, I think BYU is playing well. Hawai’i had a nice year. BYU
DECEMBER 26
Independence Bowl
Miami (Fla.) vs. Louisiana Tech
Technically, it is the Walk On Independence Bowl. I expect to see Rudy Ruettiger suiting up. Manny Diaz may regret fucking over Temple. Karma! You could almost see the gears and springs shooting out of Miami down the stretch. Interesting fact: Miami has lost 8 of 9 bowl games. Still, there is just something about picking LTU over Miami that just does not sit right. U
Quick Lane Bowl
Eastern Michigan vs. Pittsburgh
Ypsilanti is actually commuting distance from Ford Field. Congratulations guys! Having wintered in the “greater” Detroit area for the first 21 years of my life, this is not a reward for a season well played, it is a punishment for sucking. Pitt can pressure the quarterback – it is a Narduzzi team – and I think that justifies where I was going per the MAC rule anyway. Pit
Military Bowl
North Carolina vs. Temple
One trick for your conference having a good bowl record? Play shitty teams and shitty conferences. North Carolina had one of the least explicable games of the CFB season, being one blown call away from beating the best CFB team in the country. That is pretty much it for me for either team. North Carolina
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DECEMBER 27
Pinstripe Bowl
Wake Forest vs. Michigan State
We do not deserve to be playing this extra game after the collapse against Illinois, but then, neither really does Woke. Lewerke has regressed to the mean, as I feared from the start: it was 2017 that was the anomaly, not 2018. Bachie’s suspension seems to have ripped the heart out of our defense. Still, I think Dantonio can bring the defense (lead by 2019 Burlsworth Trophy for Best Former Walk On Winner Kenny Willekes – our year was not a total loss!) around and I would pick my team even if I didn’t. I’d rather be loyal than right. Besides, Syracuse beat Wake by 9. Maryland beat Syracuse by 43. We beat Maryland by 3. Therefore, we are 55 points better than Wake. I defy anyone to point to a logical flaw in that argument. Eventual 2020 National Champion Michigan State.
Texas Bowl
Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M
Team Chubba! Oklahoma State
Holiday Bowl
Iowa vs. Southern California
I was more than a little surprised that the University of California* chose to keep Helton. They did not have a bad year, and they are young, so maybe keeping Helton to see what he can do with the talent works. The Scottsdale Slinger has played pretty well, but Iowa has a top flight pass defense. Offensively, Iowa is solidly unspectacular. Nothing to write home about, but I never write home anyway, it is so much easier to just call. Iowa
* Southern
Cheez-It Bowl
Air Force vs. Washington State
The Palouse is surpassingly lovely in a pastoral way, but it is the most remote Power 5 school around. It is hard to imagine recruiting well there. Which speaks to both the great job Leach has done there, and why his name pops up year in and year out for other coaching jobs. A definite contract in offensive styles. Wazzou has the style of offense and defense that leads to exciting finishes and keeps both teams in the game, and AF’s running game needs to control the ball to win. I think Wazzou gasses them in the end. Washington State
DECEMBER 28
Camping World Bowl
Notre Dame vs. Iowa State
Our Lady of the Perpetual tie in a third rate bowl game the middle of the afternoon between Christmas and New Years. Thank you, Santa. Is that schadenfreude, and given where and when my team is playing morally unjustifiable schadenfreude? Yes. Yes it is. Objectively, ISU has been all over the map, from dark horse Pure Prairie League pick to losing to every good team they played. Close losses, to be sure, but losses. OLotPT has been better consistently and actually beat a good team. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie
Cotton Bowl
Penn State vs. Memphis
As RedJimm pointed out, the Gang of 6 teams have had a way of tripping up the big name teams in the NY6. Not sure if Norvell will be coaching yet. the PSU has some interesting offensive talent (and I wonder where they would be if Fields had not backed out of his commitment to PSU and gone briefly to Georgia) and a stout defense. They will take care of business. the Pennsylvania State University at State College
Peach Bowl
LSU vs. Oklahoma
No Pure Prairie League team has ever won a playoff game. I do not expect that to change this year. Oklahoma’s defense is comparatively better this year, but if you look at the offenses and defenses for the Four Playoff Teams, it is the Okie Defense that stands out as the weakest link. Burreaux has been the best player, offensively or defensively, this year, and he has skill position talent all across the field to assist him – like pretty much everyone, I have developed a football related mancrush on Edwards-Helaire. There may be a defense that can check LSU (see below), but it is not Oklahoma. LSU.
Fiesta Bowl
Ohio State vs. Clemson
True interesting fact: no one seed or three seed has ever won the Tournament, which augurs well for THE. The #1 Scoring Offense v. the #1 Scoring Defense. The #3 Scoring Offense v. the #4 Scoring Defense. Strength against strength, strength against strength. This will be fun. ClemSIN’s biggest drop from last year is in its defensive front, and if they cannot pressure Fields and contain THE, THE will put up a lot of points. While THE has some top flight defensive backs, and should be able to bring pressure, Lawrence is a special talent at QB and I think THE is vulnerable to a quick passing game. ClemSIN has not played a team as good as THE, and while THE has played some teams in the general area code, none have been as good, or as complete offensively as ClemSIN. I think the difference will be the surprisingly underrated Etienne. ClemSIN.
DECEMBER 30
First Responder Bowl
Western Michigan vs. Western Kentucky
I will go out on a limb and predict they will play the game all the way to the end this year. WK crushed a Power 5 team – granted, Arkansas – and WM is… a MAC schoot. Western Kentucky
Redbox Bowl
Illinois vs. California*
I plan to return this one without viewing it. Illinois
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Music City Bowl
Louisville vs. Mississippi State
Louisville had a nice one year turn around, but they are not a good defensive team – no FBS team scored fewer than 20 against them. OMSU has beaten three bowl teams, though none of them are that good. LVille is vulnerable to the run and the best way to limit a high powered offense is by running on their defense. Mississippi State
Orange Bowl
Virginia vs. Florida
Was Virginia really the only choice from the South Atlantic League? I thought their arrangement with Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie let them slide in. This will be the worst of the NY6. Florida is back on the rise after a few years of malaise. Florida
DECEMBER 31
Belk Bowl
Virginia Tech vs. Kentucky
Bud Foster’s last game as Defensive Coordinator for VT, and it is a tough assignment. KY can run the ball – 4th in CFB in YPG. Still, their quarterback is a wide receiver who leads them in rushing yards and tried 2 – yes, 2 – passes in his last game. Granted, that had something to do with the 500 rushing yards, but I think VT can develop a way to shut that down. Kentucky wants to be here, but they really don’t want to be here. Virginia Tech
Sun Bowl
Florida State vs. Arizona State
Not just the Sun Bowl – the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl. Grrrrreat! I think the FSU kids may be playing to impress their new coach, but he is not there yet. ASU beat Oregon, yet lost to Oregon State, whish means they need to work on that consistency thing. Arizona State
Liberty Bowl
Kansas State vs. Navy
KSU is the only team to beat a playoff team this year. That has to count for something, right? Kansas State
Arizona Bowl
Wyoming vs. Georgia State
True interesting fact #1: both of these teams have a win over a God’s Conference team on their resumes. True interesting fact #2: neither of these two teams are really all that good. GSU got butt whipped by a MAC team. Wyoming
Alamo Bowl
Utah vs. Texas
God, the PAWCP has a rotten bowl schedule, outside of the Rose. Lose your conference championship game and they ship you to the middle of the day on Tuesday in a tertiary bowl. Wow, Larry Scott must suck. Texas was “back” last year. They were “back” this year. They will be “back” next year too. Utah
JANUARY 1
Citrus Bowl
Alabama vs. Michigan
On paper, this looks to be an excellent way to start off your New Year’s football. But consider: Mac Jones is talented enough to be recruited by Alabama, and he is still throwing to the best set of wide receivers in CFB. Defensively, there have been lapses but I think Methchicken’s offense is still clunky. Big Game Jim may find another dark spot on the fruit of his coaching reputation. That is a crappy metaphor and I am frankly ashamed of it. I think Alabama is the better team than Methchicken. Alabama.
Outback Bowl
Minnesota vs. Auburn
Minnesota had a nice run this year - I am a little surprised Fleck is still their cox. Still, this is a team that came within a lash of losing to an FCS team. Their QB is good, and their receivers have talent, but Auburn’s defense is better. Nix has not been impressive this season, so I expect Minnesota’s defense to keep them in the game for, oh, three quarters. In the end, Auburn.
Rose Bowl
Wisconsin vs. Oregon
Wisky has never lost a Bowl under Chryst, and have won five in a row total. They have a way of showing up a little better than you expect in bowl games, even when they lose. A couple of good running backs, two top level O lines. The difference in the game will be Justin Herbert. Which is why I am taking…. Wisconsin
Sugar Bowl
Baylor vs. Georgia
Baylor is a great story. Both of these teams are much better defensively than offensively. The three weeks should help Georgia get Swift and the receivers healthy, and get Brewer healthy for Baylor. Still, I think the Georgia defense will be motivated, and I have not seen anything special from Baylor’s offense this year. Georgia
JANUARY 2
Birmingham Bowl
Boston College vs. Cincinnati
Supposedly, BC is interested in Cinncinnatti’s coach, but he is not fickle…. BC is a one dimensional team who fired its coach for a reason. Cinci’s three losses are all to teams in the NY6. Cinwhatever
Gator Bowl
Indiana vs. Tennessee
Tennessee has had a resurgence after a wretched start, but really, that came once they got to the underbelly of God’s Conference. Indiana likewise benefitted from playing Rutgers and Maryland.
They also lost to us, which is inexcusable. Neither team has an impressive win. Indiana seems to be rising, though. Indiana
JANUARY 3
Idaho Potato Bowl
Ohio vs. Nevada
One of these teams is getting mashed! Their defense will get totally fried, their defense diced, their QB scalloped and their offense will spud-der. I’ll have to get baked to even sit through it. There is not a latke to recommend this game. This will be just an ugh rotten bowl. Seriously I got nothing. Nevada
JANUARY 4
Armed Forces Bowl
Southern Mississippi vs. Tulane
Tulane was falling apart at the end of the season but frankly I am losing interest in this project. Why are they playing bowl games AFTER New Year’s Day? How many more reasons do I need to not care? Southern Mississippi
JANUARY 6
Mobile Bowl
Miami (Ohio) vs. Louisiana-Lafayette
Is this game really necessary?** ULL
JANUARY 13
College Football Playoff title game
** No.
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The playoff field was so obvious this year talk of expansion has been close to non-existent.
But writer Stewart Mandel had a few pertinent observations when asked.
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Neither the PAC12 nor the SEC are interested
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A complicated set of intertwining contracts (ESPN’s main one with the CFP, ESPN’s individual deals with the Rose, Sugar and Orange Bowls; those bowls’ contracts with their respective conference partners) that don’t expire for six more years.
But beyond that:
Three.
Just 11 teams( all power 5) have filled the 24 spots in the 6 years of the CFP.
If we had an 8 team playoff in the same span then the 48 spots would have been filled (using P5 champions and 6 non power 5 teams and CFP rankings) by just 20 different P5 teams.
If college football is experiencing attendance drop offs what happens when 2/3rds the power five teams face the reality of no playoff possibility and reduced Bowl opportunities?
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Once.again, you seem to think that an expansion of the playoffs means an end bowl system. I recall a similar argument against the playoffs themselves.
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Once.again, you seem to think that an expansion of the playoffs means an end bowl system. I recall a similar argument against the playoffs themselves.
Well.
The current CFP was structured around the Bowl System to insure its success. As evidenced by the ESPN contracts with with still six years to run.
The point Mandel was making is with two thirds of the power five conference teams likely to be left out of an8 team playoff the drop -off in attendance will be significant.
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Once.again, you seem to think that an expansion of the playoffs means an end bowl system. I recall a similar argument against the playoffs themselves.
Well.
The current CFP was structured around the Bowl System to insure its success. As evidenced by the ESPN contracts with with still six years to run.
The point Mandel was making is with two thirds of the power five conference teams likely to be left out of an8 team playoff the drop -off in attendance will be significant.
Are we talking about lower attendance for the other bowl games or the newly acquired four if it goes to eight? Or both?
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Once.again, you seem to think that an expansion of the playoffs means an end bowl system. I recall a similar argument against the playoffs themselves.
Well.
The current CFP was structured around the Bowl System to insure its success. As evidenced by the ESPN contracts with with still six years to run.
The point Mandel was making is with two thirds of the power five conference teams likely to be left out of an8 team playoff the drop -off in attendance will be significant.
Are we talking about lower attendance for the other bowl games or the newly acquired four if it goes to eight? Or both?
The regular season, then the Bowls
With 2/3rds of power five teams likely out of bowl contention less interest in the last part of the conference schedules.
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It's possible I suppose. But most college towns have their permanent fans more of less. So I wouldn't overly worry about attendance. And the TV money is the lion's share of the $$ right? But you have a point, how much of an impact it would make is uncertain.
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Personally I think the best option/s isn't expanding to 8 teams. Rather 5 or 6 would make more sense. If 5 then #4 and 5 playoff two weeks after the conference CGs. and they get to play #1. If expanding to 6 then the top 2 teams get a bye and 3-6 playoff under the same scenario as the 5 team version. With the winners getting the #1 and 2 seeds.
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What about 7 & 8 tho??
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7&8 are doable too just eliminate the off week after the GCs. In both all Power Five champs would get in But the extra games for some teams would be taxing to the players IMO. Also there would have to be an agreement between the Power Five conferences to allow shuffling to at least try to prevent conference championship re-matches.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
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I say make the kids play additional games before they leave school without degrees.
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Oh, wait - maybe that's just hoops
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
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An 8 team playoff would use four of the NY6, play an extra round in early January. I note that there is already a two week gap between the semis and the championship game. Suspicious minds may think they are actually trying to accustom us to the schedule of an 8 team field.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
The 4 and 5 ranked teams in the final CFP Rankings would play one game two weeks after Championship Saturday at the home site of the No. 4 team or a neutral site. That gives both teams two weeks to rest up and prepare for that game. I say two weeks because I don't want to take anything away from Army/Navy week. But I suppose they could play that week and the winner gets two weeks for the 4 team playoff. Either way works. Use an existing bowl game or create a new one.
And then the winner gets a week to get ready for the College Football Playoff.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
The 4 and 5 ranked teams in the final CFP Rankings would play one game two weeks after Championship Saturday at the home site of the No. 4 team or a neutral site. That gives both teams two weeks to rest up and prepare for that game. I say two weeks because I don't want to take anything away from Army/Navy week. But I suppose they could play that week and the winner gets two weeks for the 4 team playoff. Either way works. Use an existing bowl game or create a new one.
And then the winner gets a week to get ready for the College Football Playoff.
And the loser?
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
The 4 and 5 ranked teams in the final CFP Rankings would play one game two weeks after Championship Saturday at the home site of the No. 4 team or a neutral site. That gives both teams two weeks to rest up and prepare for that game. I say two weeks because I don't want to take anything away from Army/Navy week. But I suppose they could play that week and the winner gets two weeks for the 4 team playoff. Either way works. Use an existing bowl game or create a new one.
And then the winner gets a week to get ready for the College Football Playoff.
And the loser?
Gets to watch the Pinstripe Bowl.
They should be riveted.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
The 4 and 5 ranked teams in the final CFP Rankings would play one game two weeks after Championship Saturday at the home site of the No. 4 team or a neutral site. That gives both teams two weeks to rest up and prepare for that game. I say two weeks because I don't want to take anything away from Army/Navy week. But I suppose they could play that week and the winner gets two weeks for the 4 team playoff. Either way works. Use an existing bowl game or create a new one.
And then the winner gets a week to get ready for the College Football Playoff.
And the loser?
Gets to watch the Pinstripe Bowl.
They should be riveted.
Well, sarcasm appreciated but aside, you are keeping a top program out of the bowl season or you risk putting a demoralized and unmotivated team in an NY6 game. I was liking a 6 team playoff with a 3/6 , 4/5 set of games, but I think it works better for all to play the additional games after the NY6 rather than before.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
The 4 and 5 ranked teams in the final CFP Rankings would play one game two weeks after Championship Saturday at the home site of the No. 4 team or a neutral site. That gives both teams two weeks to rest up and prepare for that game. I say two weeks because I don't want to take anything away from Army/Navy week. But I suppose they could play that week and the winner gets two weeks for the 4 team playoff. Either way works. Use an existing bowl game or create a new one.
And then the winner gets a week to get ready for the College Football Playoff.
And the loser?
Gets to watch the Pinstripe Bowl.
They should be riveted.
Well, sarcasm appreciated but aside, you are keeping a top program out of the bowl season or you risk putting a demoralized and unmotivated team in an NY6 game. I was liking a 6 team playoff with a 3/6 , 4/5 set of games, but I think it works better for all to play the additional games after the NY6 rather than before.
The loser get a postseason game and a shot at the playoffs. I would think any of the teams at #5 would make tht trade in a heartbeat. The fans get one extra game. As to unmotivated that risk factor is already there IMO. One prime example will be Michigan vs Alabama.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
The 4 and 5 ranked teams in the final CFP Rankings would play one game two weeks after Championship Saturday at the home site of the No. 4 team or a neutral site. That gives both teams two weeks to rest up and prepare for that game. I say two weeks because I don't want to take anything away from Army/Navy week. But I suppose they could play that week and the winner gets two weeks for the 4 team playoff. Either way works. Use an existing bowl game or create a new one.
And then the winner gets a week to get ready for the College Football Playoff.
And the loser?
Gets to watch the Pinstripe Bowl.
They should be riveted.
Well, sarcasm appreciated but aside, you are keeping a top program out of the bowl season or you risk putting a demoralized and unmotivated team in an NY6 game. I was liking a 6 team playoff with a 3/6 , 4/5 set of games, but I think it works better for all to play the additional games after the NY6 rather than before.
The loser get a postseason game and a shot at the playoffs. I would think any of the teams at #5 would make tht trade in a heartbeat. The fans get one extra game. As to unmotivated that risk factor is already there IMO. One prime example will be Michigan vs Alabama.
ROFL!
In a an expanded playoff the extra teams would play in Existing Bowls. The loser(s) are done. As they should be. No bowl is going to be “ created “ for a playoff loser or losers.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
The 4 and 5 ranked teams in the final CFP Rankings would play one game two weeks after Championship Saturday at the home site of the No. 4 team or a neutral site. That gives both teams two weeks to rest up and prepare for that game. I say two weeks because I don't want to take anything away from Army/Navy week. But I suppose they could play that week and the winner gets two weeks for the 4 team playoff. Either way works. Use an existing bowl game or create a new one.
And then the winner gets a week to get ready for the College Football Playoff.
And the loser?
Gets to watch the Pinstripe Bowl.
They should be riveted.
Well, sarcasm appreciated but aside, you are keeping a top program out of the bowl season or you risk putting a demoralized and unmotivated team in an NY6 game. I was liking a 6 team playoff with a 3/6 , 4/5 set of games, but I think it works better for all to play the additional games after the NY6 rather than before.
The loser get a postseason game and a shot at the playoffs. I would think any of the teams at #5 would make tht trade in a heartbeat. The fans get one extra game. As to unmotivated that risk factor is already there IMO. One prime example will be Michigan vs Alabama.
ROFL!
In a an expanded playoff the extra teams would play in Existing Bowls. The loser(s) are done. As they should be. No bowl is going to be “ created “ for a playoff loser or losers.
Maybe, no shit Sherlock, and don't bet on it.
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For the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to expand the field to 8 teams in a 4-2-1 playoff system, which would allow for the full paricipation of all the conferences and all the teams with a decent shot at a championship to get a shot, and would entail a cumbersome and grueling one more week of football when you can have the current 4-team, 2-1, format determined by 13 committee members holed up in a 5-star resort sucking down cocktails. Although the 4 additional football games and TV rights might cover the cost of the commitee getting room upgrades and comped mini-bar privledges.
LOL A master of sarcasm Rich.
Me personally I like the 5 or 6 team playoff. Eight wouldn't end my world though.
How does 5 work? A single play in game? It would have to be at least one week before the semis. Co-opt the Boca Raton Bowl?
The 4 and 5 ranked teams in the final CFP Rankings would play one game two weeks after Championship Saturday at the home site of the No. 4 team or a neutral site. That gives both teams two weeks to rest up and prepare for that game. I say two weeks because I don't want to take anything away from Army/Navy week. But I suppose they could play that week and the winner gets two weeks for the 4 team playoff. Either way works. Use an existing bowl game or create a new one.
And then the winner gets a week to get ready for the College Football Playoff.
And the loser?
Gets to watch the Pinstripe Bowl.
They should be riveted.
Well, sarcasm appreciated but aside, you are keeping a top program out of the bowl season or you risk putting a demoralized and unmotivated team in an NY6 game. I was liking a 6 team playoff with a 3/6 , 4/5 set of games, but I think it works better for all to play the additional games after the NY6 rather than before.
The loser get a postseason game and a shot at the playoffs. I would think any of the teams at #5 would make tht trade in a heartbeat. The fans get one extra game. As to unmotivated that risk factor is already there IMO. One prime example will be Michigan vs Alabama.
ROFL!
In a an expanded playoff the extra teams would play in Existing Bowls. The loser(s) are done. As they should be. No bowl is going to be “ created “ for a playoff loser or losers.
Maybe, no shit Sherlock, don't bet on it.
I would.
In a heartbeat.
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Well maybe not created. More like a spot/s reserved.
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Well maybe not created. More like a spot/s reserved.
Spot/s reserved for losers ?
Don’t think so.
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If Tlaw and Etienne win the championship they won’t be crying like a little bitch, JoBu...
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Jk, he was awesum
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Well maybe not created. More like a spot/s reserved.
Spot/s reserved for losers ?
Don’t think so.
One country heard from.
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RIP Haden Fry.
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At least three Oklahoma players, defensive end Ronnie Perkins, running back Rhamondre Stevenson and receiver Trejan Bridges, reportedly have been suspended for the Peach Bowl because they failed drug tests. Perkins would be a big loss since he is the team’s best pass rusher. The Tigers have allowed a lot of sacks this year.
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RIP Haden Fry.
Bump Elliot made a good choice when he brought Fry in.
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Are we doing a bowl challenge this year?
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I never got around to setting it up.
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Okie dokie.
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I can set a bowl pickem easily on the ESPN/Capital one site. Since I'm already doing it for another group
The only question would be starting from now (locked) or accepting pick sets already submitted from other contests (including yesterdays games)
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http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2019/en/group?ex_cid=bowlmania2019_email&groupID=277037&groupp=RWxiYQ%3D%3D&inviteuser=e0JDRDYyQzAwLUFCOUQtNDZCNC1BMTAwLTUxREY5Rjc5NzMzOH0%3D&invitesource=email
Group: Escape From Elba/NY Times
Password: Elba
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this will automatically track with confidence points, but more importantly perhaps, Steve, you can use the data to recreate your wins/losses game however you want to. for instance from today forward if not everyone already a pickset in place.
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Nice start yesterday for the MAC.
Buffalo got its first Bowl win ever by romping over Charlotte.
Underdog Kent State outlasted Utah State 51-41.
Oklahoma lost another defensive player for the Peach Bowl with LSU.
Delarrin Turner-Yell , OU's second-leading tackler, will be out with a broken collarbone.
Tv ratings were up for College Football in 2019 significantly.
Observers pointed out three possible factors.
1. Joe Burrow and the LSU offense made the SEC more competitive.
2. The CFP race had a good mix of well known teams fighting for the four spots right up to the last week
3. Fox moving key Big Ten matchups to noon.
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this will automatically track with confidence points, but more importantly perhaps, Steve, you can use the data to recreate your wins/losses game however you want to. for instance from today forward if not everyone already a pickset in place.
Sure. By the way, I got in after the first two games were played and the 3rd started. I would have taken Bflo, Kent and NC AT. No matter what contradictory alternate facts someone might make up.
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http://fantasy.espn.com/college-bowl-mania/2019/en/group?ex_cid=bowlmania2019_email&groupID=277037&groupp=RWxiYQ%3D%3D&inviteuser=e0JDRDYyQzAwLUFCOUQtNDZCNC1BMTAwLTUxREY5Rjc5NzMzOH0%3D&invitesource=email
Group: Escape From Elba/NY Times
Password: Elba
Found the group don't see a join tab
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this will automatically track with confidence points, but more importantly perhaps, Steve, you can use the data to recreate your wins/losses game however you want to. for instance from today forward if not everyone already a pickset in place.
Sure. By the way, I got in after the first two games were played and the 3rd started. I would have taken Bflo, Kent and NC AT. No matter what contradictory alternate facts someone might make up.
LOL
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Pass interference on the defense?
What a total suck call.
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Wishing a Merry Christmas to all here. See you on the other side of the 25th.
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The Hurricanes offense is beyond pathetic so far in this game.
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Correct call on targeting.
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Woody Hayes was waaayyyyy off target...
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Best shot they ever had at CLEM tho, the team, not the *”punch”*...
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The Grandaddy of them All, the fabled, tradition laden Pinstripe Bowl, kicks off today at.3:20 EST. All the best teams play on the Friday after Christmas. I am sure trojanhorse agrees.
Got my I - O sweatshirt for Christmas - my stepson got the O - H one. Not sure of my wife's priorities. Cannot wait for tomorrow.
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All the best teams play on the Friday after Christmas. I am sure trojanhorse agrees.
I will not protest. That's about all I can offer though. As bad as we've been playing, I'm of the opinion that the less said, the better
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Awful deep hole for our offense.
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By the way, I think you should be allowed to celebrate a fat guy touchdown however you see fit.
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By the way, I think you should be allowed to celebrate a fat guy touchdown however you see fit.
I thought that was already an official rule?
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Two straight drives end in red zone turnovers. MSU 2019. Season cannot end soon enough.
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That is JUST what we needed to spur next year's National Championship run! And the great season by 2020 MSU Heisman Trophy Winning Quarterback to be named later! Go Green! Go White!
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Look for me tomorrow on Gameday. I will be the one with the big "Woody Hayes Was The Victim!" sign.
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Justice for Woody!
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It's official, Stevo has a big Woody for the guys on Gameday.
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Hawkeyes score first.
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Hawkeyes score first.
IO! WA!
Quite an oddity: both of Iowa's touchdowns have come on reverses.
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Dan Enos, sacrificial victim.
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UUU ESSS CEEE!
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Looked like a forward pass to me.
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Don't listen to the announcers or the "expert". They're full of it.
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Kid from Iowa is good.
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Have a blast tomorrow whisk!!
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I expect both D’s to play well, beyond that idk.
If Travis gets 80-100, could be long tOSU night.
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11-4 start to the Bowl pool.
Not too bad....
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I expect both D’s to play well, beyond that idk.
If Travis gets 80-100, could be long tOSU night.
He is the reason I am taking ClemSIN.
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If we keep letting receivers get wide open we are in we might as well mail this game in.
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Bullshit!
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like OK with the 13 1/2, that a big back door for Hurts.
but LSU wins.
Like Clemson at -2 1/2
Dabo got a chip or three of we get no respect on his shoulder and I suspect he's got his boys ready to crush some nuts
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like OK with the 13 1/2, that a big back door for Hurts.
but LSU wins.
Like Clemson at -2 1/2
Dabo got a chip or three of we get no respect on his shoulder and I suspect he's got his boys ready to crush some nuts
I'm going with LSU and OSU. But you're right 2 touchdowns is a lot.
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Not sure how many times the PSU gave the ball to Journey Brown, but it wasn't enough.
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Cajuns ragin.
this game is getting ugly quick
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Oregon Ducks would have been better than choke-a-Homa.
Oregon did not quality.
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Tua for Hurts in the 2nd half?
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This game is reminding me of the Alabama beatdown of Notre Dame a few years or so ago.
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Oklahoma keeps getting in and keeps losing.
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I swear most of these so-called announcers never know what's going on until somebody in the tech booth tells them.
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As I have said all year long, OSU is the real deal this year.
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Clemson has a game on its hands.
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Tigers dodged a big bullet with that drop
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The targeting rule sucks cock. The QB ducked into that hit.
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Good call on the Pass Interference though
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It's a terrible subjectively flawed rule. The tackler can't lead with his ass.
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Clemson gets a TD given to them.
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He doesn't need to drop his head, which he did, either. Tacklers need to be taught to bring their arms to the party.
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Big time play by Lawrence.
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He doesn't need to drop his head, which he did, either. Tacklers need to be taught to bring their arms to the party.
No. Your logic is flawed and those that made it. The whole rule is predicated on a perceived fact that defensive players don't have heads on the "top" of their bodies. Which is ludicrous. Offensive runners are allowed to target all the time. The rule is selective and S.U.C.K.S.
The rule sucks. All it takes is a slight sidestep and a shoulder hit becomes a helmet hit. It's a moving target. THE RULE SUCKS!
Chickenshit prejudicial rule against the defense. I demand a recount! Get those people back in here! Turn those machines back on!
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The rule was supposed to eliminate "launch" targeting. But was insidiously morphed into a garbage rule.
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All running backs must run assbackwards if the rule was enforced on both sides of the ball.
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Every time a runner lowers his head and hits a defenseman he's breaking the targeting rule.
Subjective rule. SUCK RULE. I'll never change my mind on that.
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He doesn't need to drop his head, which he did, either. Tacklers need to be taught to bring their arms to the party.
No. Your logic is flawed and those that made it. The whole rule is predicated on a perceived fact that defensive players don't have heads on the "top" of their bodies. Which is ludicrous. Offensive runners are allowed to target all the time. The rule is selective and S.U.C.K.S.
The rule sucks. All it takes is a slight sidestep and a shoulder hit becomes a helmet hit. It's a moving target. THE RULE SUCKS!
Chickenshit prejudicial rule against the defense. I demand a recount! Get those people back in here! Turn those machines back on!
Unfortunate but necessary part of today's game
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Wow. 2 pointer there?
Up 2 now. Why?
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great game
great CFBW by Clemson
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It's a Beautiful night!!!!
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LSU v Clemson
love the Tigers
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$
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The targeting rule sucks cock. The QB ducked into that hit.
Don't know.if it was a good call or not - they did not show the replay in the stadium - but it sure changed the game. That and the roughing the punter were probably the two most important plays of.the game.
Had a great time. Disappointing end but oh well. We had one ClemSIN fan near us who was so South Carolina, right down to the frayed bill on his ball cap. Worst thing was the The fan right behind use who kept.yelling "Dobbins is a free elf" so much I wanted to PUNCH HIM IN THE FUCKING FACE!
Battle of the bands was a one sided romp. ClemSIN's band was bleh.
Geaux Tigers!
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The targeting rule sucks cock. The QB ducked into that hit.
Don't know.if it was a good call or not - they did not show the replay in the stadium - but it sure changed the game. That and the roughing the punter were probably the two most important plays of.the game.
Had a great time. Disappointing end but oh well. We had one ClemSIN fan near us who was so South Carolina, right down to the frayed bill on his ball cap. Worst thing was the The fan right behind use who kept.yelling "Dobbins is a free elf" so much I wanted to PUNCH HIM IN THE FUCKING FACE!
Battle of the bands was a one sided romp. ClemSIN's band was bleh.
Geaux Tigers!
Roughing the punter was stupid, they had Clemson backed up and most likely would have gotten good field position. That's on the special teams coach, he fucked up.
As far as targeting they should have left it at launch targeting and then left well enough alone. And yes, many people don't share my opinion I know.
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Of course the good thing out of all of this is that OSU lost.
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Went to bed at 11:30, see it turned out well for Clemson.
BuckNut Targetting thuggery backfires this time. And that was not their only attempt to take Lawrence out.
Mr. "I can't be blocked" #2 BuckNut DE, sure gave a good imitation all night of getting blocked.
ZeroState blew a 16 pt lead, which in the eyes of JumboJimNut means they choked B1G time against the lowly ACC champs.
Beautiful sight watching BuckNut fans blame the officials for missed calls. Now you know how it feels. (Not saying any calls were wrong, officiating was better than usual for the playoffs).
Steve comes out of his closest as a huge BuckNut fan which I knew he always was.
Congrats, Clemson and JB! Well done. A grateful football nation thanks you!!!
You remain a stupid, stupid man.
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The targeting rule sucks cock. The QB ducked into that hit.
Don't know.if it was a good call or not - they did not show the replay in the stadium - but it sure changed the game. That and the roughing the punter were probably the two most important plays of.the game.
Had a great time. Disappointing end but oh well. We had one ClemSIN fan near us who was so South Carolina, right down to the frayed bill on his ball cap. Worst thing was the The fan right behind use who kept.yelling "Dobbins is a free elf" so much I wanted to PUNCH HIM IN THE FUCKING FACE!
Battle of the bands was a one sided romp. ClemSIN's band was bleh.
Geaux Tigers!
Roughing the punter was stupid, they had Clemson backed up and most likely would have gotten good field position. That's on the special teams coach, he fucked up.
As far as targeting they should have left it at launch targeting and then left well enough alone. And yes, many people don't share my opinion I know.
The roughing was inexcusable.
Having seen the replay the problem was not that the The kid targeted Jennifer Lawrence's head, but that he dropped his when going for the tackle. Probably the right call. Waving off the fumble recovery touchdown was.as.wrong is it looked on the Jumhotron. For some reason, that was the only booth reviewed play they showed.
ClemSIN handled Young by doubling him, usually trying to take away the outside rush and forcing him into the guard, or be rolling the action away from him. When he was able to get one on one, he was pressuring Lawrence. The ran passing plays away from him most of the time, and got Lawrence out of the pocket the other way, and downfield as quick as they could, and optioned at him in the run game.
The The player who impressed me most was Okudah. A lot of elite coverage CBs are turn down tacklers. He definitely is not.
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The official they had on hand for review opinion, rules application confirmed every call that went against tOSU, cap you may not like targeting rule, but it’s irrelevant whether or not Tlaw lowers his head, nothing to do with the application of the rule, whisk you may not like the fact that Dobbins needed to secure the ball for it to be a catch (to the ground), and he didn’t have control of it at all, no catch, no TD, proper application of the rule.
Had I been a tOSU fan in the stands, I would be sure we had gotten jobbed.
But you didn’t. Fact. Calls indisputable, period.
And yes, the roughing play was moronic, thanks.
I don’t feel bad for Coach Ryan but he called a near perfect game against our formidable DC.
tOSU did get fatigued and Etienne finally got going and Tlaw was incredible running the ball.
tOSU should have lost 2 players in the targeting play as the second defender grew a punch at Tlaw and tried to unscrew his head.
Dirty.
Dobbins might’ve gotten an ankle as a result but no crocodile tears here.
Helluva game.
Lived up to the USC/UT game where it was hard fought and came down to the last play.
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The official they had on hand for review opinion, rules application confirmed every call that went against tOSU, cap you may not like targeting rule, but it’s irrelevant whether or not Tlaw lowers his head, nothing to do with the application of the rule, whisk you may not like the fact that Dobbins needed to secure the ball for it to be a catch (to the ground), and he didn’t have control of it at all, no catch, no TD, proper application of the rule.
Had I been a tOSU fan in the stands, I would be sure we had gotten jobbed.
But you didn’t. Fact. Calls indisputable, period.
And yes, the roughing play was moronic, thanks.
I don’t feel bad for Coach Ryan but he called a near perfect game against our formidable DC.
tOSU did get fatigued and Etienne finally got going and Tlaw was incredible running the ball.
tOSU should have lost 2 players in the targeting play as the second defender grew a punch at Tlaw and tried to unscrew his head.
Dirty.
Dobbins might’ve gotten an ankle as a result but no crocodile tears here.
Helluva game.
Lived up to the USC/UT game where it was hard fought and came down to the last play.
Yes, I may not like the targeting rule.
Don't get me wrong, I was rooting for Clemson to win. At least I think I was. LOL
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Given that I spend an extraordinary amount of money for U of Michigan, there's no way I'm rooting for Ohio State. But there's equally no way that I'll root for Dabo.
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The official they had on hand for review opinion, rules application confirmed every call that went against tOSU, cap you may not like targeting rule, but it’s irrelevant whether or not Tlaw lowers his head, nothing to do with the application of the rule, whisk you may not like the fact that Dobbins needed to secure the ball for it to be a catch (to the ground), and he didn’t have control of it at all, no catch, no TD, proper application of the rule.
Had I been a tOSU fan in the stands, I would be sure we had gotten jobbed.
But you didn’t. Fact. Calls indisputable, period.
And yes, the roughing play was moronic, thanks.
I don’t feel bad for Coach Ryan but he called a near perfect game against our formidable DC.
tOSU did get fatigued and Etienne finally got going and Tlaw was incredible running the ball.
tOSU should have lost 2 players in the targeting play as the second defender grew a punch at Tlaw and tried to unscrew his head.
Dirty.
Dobbins might’ve gotten an ankle as a result but no crocodile tears here.
Helluva game.
Lived up to the USC/UT game where it was hard fought and came down to the last play.
The targeting call was correct, under the rules, but it was not a dirty play - there was a targeting call on Okie that was much worse.
Overturning Dobbins's TD catch was also proper. I still say Okudah's TD should have counted given the ruling on the field. Still, the was the call and you deal with it. It is not why they lost. The got the ball back and scored. They could not get a stop when they needed it, and Olave screwed up his route. ClemSIN's D held The to field goals three times in the Red Zone in the first half, and made a key Defensive adjustment to the novel maybe we should try tackling Dobbins scheme after quarter. Great game, great win for ClemSIN. Congratulations and good luck with LSU.
the The did not appear gassed to me. Lawrence led a great drive at the end, but fatigue was not the issue.
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The targeting rule sucks cock. The QB ducked into that hit.
Don't know.if it was a good call or not - they did not show the replay in the stadium - but it sure changed the game. That and the roughing the punter were probably the two most important plays of.the game.
Had a great time. Disappointing end but oh well. We had one ClemSIN fan near us who was so South Carolina, right down to the frayed bill on his ball cap. Worst thing was the The fan right behind use who kept.yelling "Dobbins is a free elf" so much I wanted to PUNCH HIM IN THE FUCKING FACE!
Battle of the bands was a one sided romp. ClemSIN's band was bleh.
Geaux Tigers!
Roughing the punter was stupid, they had Clemson backed up and most likely would have gotten good field position. That's on the special teams coach, he fucked up.
As far as targeting they should have left it at launch targeting and then left well enough alone. And yes, many people don't share my opinion I know.
The special teams coach does not call for a block attempt without the head coach's OK.
Put the blame where it belongs.
I am morally certain The's punt block schemes do not include the direction to plaster the kicker if you miss. The call was fine - the The would have good field position if they did not get the block. Put the blame where it belongs: on the players who did not execute. But then you are a stupid, stupid man.
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Given that I spend an extraordinary amount of money for U of Michigan, there's no way I'm rooting for Ohio State. But there's equally no way that I'll root for Dabo.
Think of it as investing money, not spending it.
What's your beef with Dabo? Besides, his name being Dabo.
"God's favor" has nothing to do with winning college football games
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Actually, after watching the game post my comments, I agree re: “gassed”
I think we became more productive from Etienne and Tlaw because of some fatigue but gassed in the wrong word, tOSU was still banging, and thanks.
It was a last team to make a mistake/play game and an all-timer.
I do disagree re: “dirty,” it’s why he left the game.
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Dabo may overdo some of the “god stuff” for this lapsed Baptist who struggles with issues of faith and organized religion, but let me say this:
I am not steeped in the culture of coaching theory but I know enough to know that coaching through love and accountability rather than fear and punishment, of positivity rather than blame, and creating a culture of brotherhood, while not novel, I’m sure, has been a very successful recruiting, coaching and leadership model for Clemson and it’s author, one Dabo Swinney.
By the way, he is a loving father figure for many athletes who need that, whether it’s a kid (the Safety that caught the game winning pick) who lost his father to ALS in 2016, who Dabo had known since he was a kid having played with his dad at ALA before dad went NFL. The year prior Dabo had scholarship slots to fill he gave film of the unrecruited kid to Venables, and now, the rest is history.
Google Nolan Greenville News for full story...
...or an urban (black) kid with an incarcerated, absent, or dead father who needs a safe caring environment (not Miami) and some leadership and “brothers” with his best interest at heart, it’s worked...
And call him a bible thumper and ridicule him for the all glory to god shitck (and I get it) but understand that he has created a culture of brotherhood and love that also happens to be the most dominant paradigm in college football at the moment.
You can win other ways but he doesn’t recruit talented 5* thugs or primadonnas, have at them the rest of you.
I don’t think he’s alone in his philosophy but I believe he’s been revolutionary in creating results out of those simple, and yes, Christian, ideals.
So there is that, as cornpone as it is...
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https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/college/clemson/2019/01/07/clemson-football-dabo-swinney-nolan-turner-kevin-alabama-national-championship/2491731002/
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Given that I spend an extraordinary amount of money for U of Michigan, there's no way I'm rooting for Ohio State. But there's equally no way that I'll root for Dabo.
Think of it as investing money, not spending it.
What's your beef with Dabo? Besides, his name being Dabo.
"God's favor" has nothing to do with winning college football games
Heard SWINEy on the.radio while waiting to exit. My son's response to his interview was, that's why we lost. God fucked us! Bastard.
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Actually, after watching the game post my comments, I agree re: “gassed”
I think we became more productive from Etienne and Tlaw because of some fatigue but gassed in the wrong word, tOSU was still banging, and thanks.
It was a last team to make a mistake/play game and an all-timer.
I do disagree re: “dirty,” it’s why he left the game.
Well, it is.dirty in the way a clip or a facemask or horse collar tackle is dirty. It is against the rules, and penalized. But those rules, like targeting, do not require an intent to injure. The The kid made an illegal hit.that because of concussion concerns, we penalize with ejection as well. But I didn't see anything in it dirtier than other major penalties.
Last mistake was Olave messing up his route. Great game.
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The targeting rule sucks cock. The QB ducked into that hit.
Don't know.if it was a good call or not - they did not show the replay in the stadium - but it sure changed the game. That and the roughing the punter were probably the two most important plays of.the game.
Had a great time. Disappointing end but oh well. We had one ClemSIN fan near us who was so South Carolina, right down to the frayed bill on his ball cap. Worst thing was the The fan right behind use who kept.yelling "Dobbins is a free elf" so much I wanted to PUNCH HIM IN THE FUCKING FACE!
Battle of the bands was a one sided romp. ClemSIN's band was bleh.
Geaux Tigers!
Roughing the punter was stupid, they had Clemson backed up and most likely would have gotten good field position. That's on the special teams coach, he fucked up.
As far as targeting they should have left it at launch targeting and then left well enough alone. And yes, many people don't share my opinion I know.
The special teams coach does not call for a block attempt without the head coach's OK.
Put the blame where it belongs.
I am morally certain The's punt block schemes do not include the direction to plaster the kicker if you miss. The call was fine - the The would have good field position if they did not get the block. Put the blame where it belongs: on the players who did not execute. But then you are a stupid, stupid man.
Still wrong. The players would not have been close if the block was not on. The following punt Clemson's punter could have run for the first down easily because every BuckNUT WAS RUNNING DOWNFIELD.
I put the blame on the guys being paid millions, Ignoramuses like yourself blame poor student -athletes. Go figure. Now how stupid do you feel?
You are a fucking moron. There was no problem with ing the play. The thought they could get a block. If you paying attention, ClemSIN thought so too. The rest of their punts after that were roll out punts. Apparently ClemSIN saw the same thing The's coaches did. Players have to properly execute. You as a fucking syphlitic ass moron would as well criticize The calling a post pattern on their last offensive pay because Olave and Fields did not execute it. You stupid, stupid man.
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Given that I spend an extraordinary amount of money for U of Michigan, there's no way I'm rooting for Ohio State. But there's equally no way that I'll root for Dabo.
Think of it as investing money, not spending it.
What's your beef with Dabo? Besides, his name being Dabo.
"God's favor" has nothing to do with winning college football games
Heard SWINEy on the.radio while waiting to exit. My son's response to his interview was, that's why we lost. God fucked us! Bastard.
Well, yes he needs Jesus in his life obvi.
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When I watched it again, and tOSU went all in, and we threw to Etienne was, jeez, we just stole their Dobbins play that had fucked us, but there was nobody back just like we got burnt.
I’m not so much a Dabo defender as I am amazed at what he’s done and we don’t share the same exact belief system, and you (not You) can think it’s dumb, but we recruit Georgia (our last 2 #1 QB both rings...), Florida, and yes AL (#1 WR Ross), LA (#1, Etienne), down here Dabo’s thing is working for us and you (not You) can think his belief system is not what you prefer (me too), but it fucking works.
I just hope he stays away from LGBTQ community, because when I heard “I’m not a part of that because I refuse to be defined by my sexuality...”
So the latest thing is that you can’t name even a preference, even though everyone has one, you just can’t *say* it, so, same lens thru which I view atheists and Bible thumpers, whatever works for you...
For us??
We'll stick with Dabo for now.
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Well, yes he needs Jesus in his life obvi.
Well, he had better have a word with the complete Trinity before he goes up against LSU.
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When I watched it again, and tOSU went all in, and we threw to Etienne was, jeez, we just stole their Dobbins play that had fucked us, but there was nobody back just like we got burnt.
I’m not so much a Dabo defender as I am amazed at what he’s done and we don’t share the same exact belief system, and you (not You) can think it’s dumb, but we recruit Georgia (our last 2 #1 QB both rings...), Florida, and yes AL (#1 WR Ross), LA (#1, Etienne), down here Dabo’s thing is working for us and you (not You) can think his belief system is not what you prefer (me too), but it fucking works.
I just hope he stays away from LGBTQ community, because when I heard “I’m not a part of that because I refuse to be defined by my sexuality...”
So the latest thing is that you can’t name even a preference, even though everyone has one, you just can’t *say* it, so, same lens thru which I view atheists and Bible thumpers, whatever works for you...
For us??
We'll stick with Dabo for now.
He is a great coach.
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Which one of these geniuses is the next Cowboys coach?
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I predict the Tigers will win the National Championship and Death Valley will be celebrating.
That was fun
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CFP TV ratings are in and, no surprise, the trend continues; they were good but nowhere near what they would if they were played on New Year’s Day.
LSU/Oklahoma drew about 19 million viewers (for the first quarter and then went down) tOSU/Clemson had 21 million and an exciting conclusion.
The latter game set a record for a semi-final game designated as a NNYDgame (non New Year’s Day)
The combined audiences were approximately 40 million or 28 % lower than the 56 million who watched the first CFP on January 1, 2015.
On Jan 1 2018, the combined audiences were 47 million.
The current TV contracts run to 2026 which has the playoffs running on a 6 bowl/three year rotating schedule.
The only times the games are played on New Year’s are when they match up either Rose and Sugar Bowls.
Judging by the ratings it seems logical to push for a contract revision and move the CFP to the Rose and Sugar permanently. But the problem is the B1G and Pac12 get the 80$ million ESPN pays for broadcast rights in the non playoff years all to themselves.
Adding playoff teams does not make a lot of economic sense either.
The four preliminary games would be two weeks before the Holiday weekend and upsets could deaden the glow of possible Marquee Matchups.
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Hey, man, look, we don’t worry about the numbers, dadgum it we’ll be number 10 if we lose this year and y’all want to talk about l’il ol’ Clempson and it a bunch of bull crap, last time I checked we have to strap it and get on the Roy bus or I told ‘em if you don’t feel like putting your “all in” chip in the bucket, hey man, go back to the hotel and play x-box, man, galldambit...
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Adding playoff teams does not make a lot of economic sense either.
The four preliminary games would be two weeks before the Holiday weekend and upsets could deaden the glow of possible Marquee Matchups.
I agree with you on this.
I have heard a lot of the younger college football announcers arguing for expanded playoffs and frankly their arguments are less than stellar. This morning...it was either Danny Kannel or Greg McIroy was arguing that the LSU Oklahoma game was a great argument for an expanded playoff. His line of thinking was that Oklahoma would have been eliminated earlier and this semi-final would have been a better matchup.
How about... there were three teams this year that deserved a shot and it didn't matter who the 4th placeholder was?
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Unless there is a bye in the system, why should you have to play UGGA or ALA if they didn’t win their Conference, and yeah there are 3 teams that by the end of the year we’re better than everybody else, that same logic means probably 3 of 4 teams probably get smoked in a quarterfinal game, it’s bad tv, and you risk injuring the cream of the crop, and possibly render what they’ve done to that point meaningless.
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Like Tlaw and Higgins almost got concussed anyway, why should you further subject them or a Heisman winner to playing a semi-final “*” game??
The MacIlroy logic just means more teams get spiked in order to have a *true* #4: dumb.
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Further, if I’m a top 10 pick and we play at 7 or 8 there’s no fucking way I risk throwing away $10 million dollars...
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Ahhhhh, bollocks, Western Mich...
15-5, I think...
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Adding playoff teams does not make a lot of economic sense either.
The four preliminary games would be two weeks before the Holiday weekend and upsets could deaden the glow of possible Marquee Matchups.
I agree with you on this.
I have heard a lot of the younger college football announcers arguing for expanded playoffs and frankly their arguments are less than stellar. This morning...it was either Danny Kannel or Greg McIroy was arguing that the LSU Oklahoma game was a great argument for an expanded playoff. His line of thinking was that Oklahoma would have been eliminated earlier and this semi-final would have been a better matchup.
How about... there were three teams this year that deserved a shot and it didn't matter who the 4th placeholder was?
I think the official wisdom this year was right for once: there were three elite teams, everyone else was a clear step below. But you do not build an argument about playoffs on a single season. There have been years where there were good arguments for a fifth team not just to get in, but be a threat to win it all - the first year, for instance.
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Your perverse denial of ZeroState's tradition of dirty play is what is astonishing.
Did you know Ohio State was involved in the Kennedy killing? (Just John, not Bobby). No, it's true. You see JFK was an Ivey League kind of a guy, whereas OSU was keeping Harvard out of the No. 1 spot.....
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Your perverse denial of ZeroState's tradition of dirty play is what is astonishing.
Did you know Ohio State was involved in the Kennedy killing? (Just John, not Bobby). No, it's true. You see JFK was an Ivey League kind of a guy, whereas OSU was keeping Harvard out of the No. 1 spot.....
The stupid, stupid man you are responding to has a feeble and syphlitic brain that can no longer recall the the "I got rolled by a guy in an OSU sweatshirt" line was a lie he told to get out of being charged with male prostitution for his conduct in a Jersey Turnpike restroom. His "brain" now believes it happened and as a result he has a permanent grudge against the OSU. I was going to say he had a permanent hard on for them, but that would be distasteful given the whole self-mutilation thing.
Ward got targeting because he lowered his head into contact. The right call, a stupid play that was more dangerous to himself than Lawrence. Only a fucked up stupid old fool with a stump where his dick should be would see that as evidence of a dirty team. But then, that is dj.
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Adding playoff teams does not make a lot of economic sense either.
The four preliminary games would be two weeks before the Holiday weekend and upsets could deaden the glow of possible Marquee Matchups.
I agree with you on this.
I have heard a lot of the younger college football announcers arguing for expanded playoffs and frankly their arguments are less than stellar. This morning...it was either Danny Kannel or Greg McIroy was arguing that the LSU Oklahoma game was a great argument for an expanded playoff. His line of thinking was that Oklahoma would have been eliminated earlier and this semi-final would have been a better matchup.
How about... there were three teams this year that deserved a shot and it didn't matter who the 4th placeholder was?
I think the official wisdom this year was right for once: there were three elite teams, everyone else was a clear step below. But you do not build an argument about playoffs on a single season. There have been years where there were good arguments for a fifth team not just to get in, but be a threat to win it all - the first year, for example.
Except playoff increases come in sets of four.
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Adding playoff teams does not make a lot of economic sense either.
The four preliminary games would be two weeks before the Holiday weekend and upsets could deaden the glow of possible Marquee Matchups.
I agree with you on this.
I have heard a lot of the younger college football announcers arguing for expanded playoffs and frankly their arguments are less than stellar. This morning...it was either Danny Kannel or Greg McIroy was arguing that the LSU Oklahoma game was a great argument for an expanded playoff. His line of thinking was that Oklahoma would have been eliminated earlier and this semi-final would have been a better matchup.
How about... there were three teams this year that deserved a shot and it didn't matter who the 4th placeholder was?
I think the official wisdom this year was right for once: there were three elite teams, everyone else was a clear step below. But you do not build an argument about playoffs on a single season. There have been years where there were good arguments for a fifth team not just to get in, but be a threat to win it all - the first year, for example.
Except playoff increases come in sets of four.
6 is doable. 3/6 and 4/5 play in games the week after.co ference championship games. Of course, except year 1 it is hard to come up with 6 teams with an honest shot at the crown. This year, ClemSIN v. Georgia, Oklahoma and Oregon. Though I could see the Committee, with that extra spot, swapping Oklahoma and Georgia.
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Adding playoff teams does not make a lot of economic sense either.
The four preliminary games would be two weeks before the Holiday weekend and upsets could deaden the glow of possible Marquee Matchups.
I agree with you on this.
I have heard a lot of the younger college football announcers arguing for expanded playoffs and frankly their arguments are less than stellar. This morning...it was either Danny Kannel or Greg McIroy was arguing that the LSU Oklahoma game was a great argument for an expanded playoff. His line of thinking was that Oklahoma would have been eliminated earlier and this semi-final would have been a better matchup.
How about... there were three teams this year that deserved a shot and it didn't matter who the 4th placeholder was?
I think the official wisdom this year was right for once: there were three elite teams, everyone else was a clear step below. But you do not build an argument about playoffs on a single season. There have been years where there were good arguments for a fifth team not just to get in, but be a threat to win it all - the first year, for example.
Except playoff increases come in sets of four.
6 is doable.
No
It adds no economic benefits neither in TV money nor a suitable Bowl Game.
DOA
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We've never played Clemson, toad. Go crawl back up the rectum your mother dropped you out of.
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AssHole of the Year!
I know you are.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2020-nfl-draft-ohio-state-rb-j-k-dobbins-declares-after-2000-yard-rushing-season/
via http://cbssportsapp.com
Dobbins is a free elf.
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Well, yes he needs Jesus in his life obvi.
Well, he had better have a word with the complete Trinity before he goes up against LSU.
Especially since the Divinity has been cleared to play for LSU.
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Nice discussion, no sarcasm, but I think Simmons is better than Young, and he arrived at CLEM to play track at 155 lb., he is now 6’4”, 230, sick, but yeah, it’s on, I think they have a D, but who has scored on us and who haven’t we scored on??
You going to hold us to 24??
Ain’t no fucking way brah...
Interesting post #1.
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You going to put up 30, ain’t no fucking way brah...
Interesting post #2.
Final.score, 29 - 23. Gotta get me some of what jb was smoking.
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Ward got targeting because he lowered his head into contact. The right call, a stupid play that was more dangerous to himself than Lawrence
Lawerence is like 6’5”-6’6” and close to 250lbs. If he wants to run the ball then he takes the risks that running backs take every time they touch the ball. Besides, this targeting call is one of the biggest pieces of horseshit that they have come up with in many a year. A couple of guys in the replay booth are supposed to discern just exactly what a players intentions were when he moved his head a couple of inches up or down or left to right during a tackle? This is still football, right? Occasionally, it is evident that a person is taking a shot at an unprotected mans head. In that case they should march off a 15 yard penalty. But this bit about throwing a guy out out of the game, merely on the subjective opinion of the people in the replay booth sucks. They have already killed the kickoff as an exciting play in college football, now they want to turn hard hitting into a major foul? Well, I guess there is always flag football.
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Who cares? It’s one play.
Happy New Years to you and yours, 2020 huh?,
All the glory...
Cheers gents!!
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You going to put up 30, ain’t no fucking way brah...
Interesting post #2.
Final.score, 29 - 23. Gotta get me some of what jb was smoking.
Yes, me too, forgot that but thanks for props, my crooked logic was right on, but
and I look like a Vegas sharp, but if I had that in my 20’s I would be set, better lucky than good but we did cover.
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Ward got targeting because he lowered his head into contact. The right call, a stupid play that was more dangerous to himself than Lawrence
Lawerence is like 6’5”-6’6” and close to 250lbs. If he wants to run the ball then he takes the risks that running backs take every time they touch the ball. Besides, this targeting call is one of the biggest pieces of horseshit that they have come up with in many a year. A couple of guys in the replay booth are supposed to discern just exactly what a players intentions were when he moved his head a couple of inches up or down or left to right during a tackle? This is still football, right? Occasionally, it is evident that a person is taking a shot at an unprotected mans head. In that case they should march off a 15 yard penalty. But this bit about throwing a guy out out of the game, merely on the subjective opinion of the people in the replay booth sucks. They have already killed the kickoff as an exciting play in college football, now they want to turn hard hitting into a major foul? Well, I guess there is always flag football.
Intent is irrelevant for targeting. It is a prophylactic rule. You cannot make helmet to helmet contact, you cannot - as Ward did - hit with the crown of the helmet.
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Unless there is a bye in the system, why should you have to play UGGA or ALA if they didn’t win their Conference, and yeah there are 3 teams that by the end of the year we’re better than everybody else, that same logic means probably 3 of 4 teams probably get smoked in a quarterfinal game, it’s bad tv, and you risk injuring the cream of the crop, and possibly render what they’ve done to that point meaningless.
I like the 4 team format. I could live with the 5 team playoff with the one 'play-in' game of #4 and #5. How the play-in game fits into the Bowl Schedule I could care less.
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Adding playoff teams does not make a lot of economic sense either.
The four preliminary games would be two weeks before the Holiday weekend and upsets could deaden the glow of possible Marquee Matchups.
I agree with you on this.
I have heard a lot of the younger college football announcers arguing for expanded playoffs and frankly their arguments are less than stellar. This morning...it was either Danny Kannel or Greg McIroy was arguing that the LSU Oklahoma game was a great argument for an expanded playoff. His line of thinking was that Oklahoma would have been eliminated earlier and this semi-final would have been a better matchup.
How about... there were three teams this year that deserved a shot and it didn't matter who the 4th placeholder was?
I think the official wisdom this year was right for once: there were three elite teams, everyone else was a clear step below. But you do not build an argument about playoffs on a single season. There have been years where there were good arguments for a fifth team not just to get in, but be a threat to win it all - the first year, for example.
Except playoff increases come in sets of four.
No they don't, I've already established that. Please try and keep up.
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Ward got targeting because he lowered his head into contact. The right call, a stupid play that was more dangerous to himself than Lawrence
Lawerence is like 6’5”-6’6” and close to 250lbs. If he wants to run the ball then he takes the risks that running backs take every time they touch the ball. Besides, this targeting call is one of the biggest pieces of horseshit that they have come up with in many a year. A couple of guys in the replay booth are supposed to discern just exactly what a players intentions were when he moved his head a couple of inches up or down or left to right during a tackle? This is still football, right? Occasionally, it is evident that a person is taking a shot at an unprotected mans head. In that case they should march off a 15 yard penalty. But this bit about throwing a guy out out of the game, merely on the subjective opinion of the people in the replay booth sucks. They have already killed the kickoff as an exciting play in college football, now they want to turn hard hitting into a major foul? Well, I guess there is always flag football.
The voice of reason and sanity from the wilderness.
Also good to see you here my friend.
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Ward got targeting because he lowered his head into contact. The right call, a stupid play that was more dangerous to himself than Lawrence
Lawerence is like 6’5”-6’6” and close to 250lbs. If he wants to run the ball then he takes the risks that running backs take every time they touch the ball. Besides, this targeting call is one of the biggest pieces of horseshit that they have come up with in many a year. A couple of guys in the replay booth are supposed to discern just exactly what a players intentions were when he moved his head a couple of inches up or down or left to right during a tackle? This is still football, right? Occasionally, it is evident that a person is taking a shot at an unprotected mans head. In that case they should march off a 15 yard penalty. But this bit about throwing a guy out out of the game, merely on the subjective opinion of the people in the replay booth sucks. They have already killed the kickoff as an exciting play in college football, now they want to turn hard hitting into a major foul? Well, I guess there is always flag football.
Intent is irrelevant for targeting. It is a prophylactic rule. You cannot make helmet to helmet contact, you cannot - as Ward did - hit with the crown of the helmet.
The rule in it's current form sucks dead donkey dick.
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It is a prophylactic rule.
I’d hire you in an instant to be the broadcast rules’ expert.
Five words to properly put the targeting rule in context.
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Also good to see you here my friend.
Hey, Cap….always good to be talking’ at you. Just trying to put my thoughts in order after that OSU defeat. I guess it’s just the way it goes sometimes. Bucks had their chances for a win. It wasn’t like that 31-0 debacle. Clemson made the plays when they really needed to and OSU did not. Still, that targeting call and the fumble that turned out to be a not fumble after the replay people got through with it sticks in the craw. Those plays were not the complete difference makers but they sure didn’t help. OSU makes one more first down before they punted Clemson down to the 10 yard line and the game is probably over because Clemson never sees the ball again. Yet you have to give credit where credit is due. Clemson marches right down the field with 3 minutes or less left in the game??? Uh—calling the OSU defense….make a stop and it’s on to New Orleans. Just goes to show how difficult it really is to win that National Championship. Clemson played like a steady, veteran outfit and found the ways to win when they needed to and OSU just couldn’t get over that second to last hurdle (Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin—twice!).
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Ward got targeting because he lowered his head into contact. The right call, a stupid play that was more dangerous to himself than Lawrence
Lawerence is like 6’5”-6’6” and close to 250lbs. If he wants to run the ball then he takes the risks that running backs take every time they touch the ball. Besides, this targeting call is one of the biggest pieces of horseshit that they have come up with in many a year. A couple of guys in the replay booth are supposed to discern just exactly what a players intentions were when he moved his head a couple of inches up or down or left to right during a tackle? This is still football, right? Occasionally, it is evident that a person is taking a shot at an unprotected mans head. In that case they should march off a 15 yard penalty. But this bit about throwing a guy out out of the game, merely on the subjective opinion of the people in the replay booth sucks. They have already killed the kickoff as an exciting play in college football, now they want to turn hard hitting into a major foul? Well, I guess there is always flag football.
Intent is irrelevant for targeting. It is a prophylactic rule. You cannot make helmet to helmet contact, you cannot - as Ward did - hit with the crown of the helmet.
The rule in it's current form sucks dead donkey dick.
I'll defer to cap's expertise in chossing his comps, and I don't have a dog, donkey or Tiger in this matter, thought I did lay the points, but I thought it was a good and reasonable call, tOSU kid seemed to lead with his head and went kind of high on the sack. Was it intentional, IDK, but as boz notes, that ain't the rule.
And Happy New Year to all.
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Ward got targeting because he lowered his head into contact. The right call, a stupid play that was more dangerous to himself than Lawrence
Lawerence is like 6’5”-6’6” and close to 250lbs. If he wants to run the ball then he takes the risks that running backs take every time they touch the ball. Besides, this targeting call is one of the biggest pieces of horseshit that they have come up with in many a year. A couple of guys in the replay booth are supposed to discern just exactly what a players intentions were when he moved his head a couple of inches up or down or left to right during a tackle? This is still football, right? Occasionally, it is evident that a person is taking a shot at an unprotected mans head. In that case they should march off a 15 yard penalty. But this bit about throwing a guy out out of the game, merely on the subjective opinion of the people in the replay booth sucks. They have already killed the kickoff as an exciting play in college football, now they want to turn hard hitting into a major foul? Well, I guess there is always flag football.
Intent is irrelevant for targeting. It is a prophylactic rule. You cannot make helmet to helmet contact, you cannot - as Ward did - hit with the crown of the helmet.
The rule in it's current form sucks dead donkey dick.
IT'S ITS GODDAMMIT NOT IT'S!
Id est quod est. It is the duty of the player to comply with the rules as they are. CTE is a real issue.
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Also good to see you here my friend.
Hey, Cap….always good to be talking’ at you. Just trying to put my thoughts in order after that OSU defeat. I guess it’s just the way it goes sometimes. Bucks had their chances for a win. It wasn’t like that 31-0 debacle. Clemson made the plays when they really needed to and OSU did not. Still, that targeting call and the fumble that turned out to be a not fumble after the replay people got through with it sticks in the craw. Those plays were not the complete difference makers but they sure didn’t help. OSU makes one more first down before they punted Clemson down to the 10 yard line and the game is probably over because Clemson never sees the ball again. Yet you have to give credit where credit is due. Clemson marches right down the field with 3 minutes or less left in the game??? Uh—calling the OSU defense….make a stop and it’s on to New Orleans. Just goes to show how difficult it really is to win that National Championship. Clemson played like a steady, veteran outfit and found the ways to win when they needed to and OSU just couldn’t get over that second to last hurdle (Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin—twice!).
The reasons The lost, in order of importance:
1. ClemSIN is a really, really, really good, well coached team that committed no major errors.
2. ClemSIN held The to 3 field goals in 3 first half trips inside the 10. Twice Dobbins dropped certain or likely touchdown passes, but the real props to the ClemSIN defense for those stands. 28 - 0, 24 - 0, those are much bigger holes than 16 - 0.
3. The targeting call really changed the game - especially since the player who replaced Ward committed pass interference on the next pass.
4. Add in a roughing the kicker penalty, three huge mistakes that led to 14 points. Against ClemSIN, a team a great team making no major errors, you cannot do that.
5. ClemSIN's offense had two touchdowns of over 50 yards against a defense that gave up one of them all year. That Jennifer Lawrence run in particular was a game changer.
Add in Olave running the wrong route, the defensive touchdown that got called back somewhere beyond those. But in the end, the reasons boil down to my first: ClemSIN is really, really, really good.
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Go Ala... Go Mi... Fuck this game.
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Well that was quick.
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Ward got targeting because he lowered his head into contact. The right call, a stupid play that was more dangerous to himself than Lawrence
Lawerence is like 6’5”-6’6” and close to 250lbs. If he wants to run the ball then he takes the risks that running backs take every time they touch the ball. Besides, this targeting call is one of the biggest pieces of horseshit that they have come up with in many a year. A couple of guys in the replay booth are supposed to discern just exactly what a players intentions were when he moved his head a couple of inches up or down or left to right during a tackle? This is still football, right? Occasionally, it is evident that a person is taking a shot at an unprotected mans head. In that case they should march off a 15 yard penalty. But this bit about throwing a guy out out of the game, merely on the subjective opinion of the people in the replay booth sucks. They have already killed the kickoff as an exciting play in college football, now they want to turn hard hitting into a major foul? Well, I guess there is always flag football.
Intent is irrelevant for targeting. It is a prophylactic rule. You cannot make helmet to helmet contact, you cannot - as Ward did - hit with the crown of the helmet.
The rule in it's current form sucks dead donkey dick.
IT'S ITS GODDAMMIT NOT IT'S!
Id est quod est. It is the duty of the player to comply with the rules as they are. CTE is a real issue.
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Targeting rule morphs to other sports.
This just in, boxers will no longer be allowed to hit their opponents in the head.
UFC fighters will only be allowed to kick each other in the shins.
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Targeting rule morphs to other sports.
This just in, boxers will no longer be allowed to hit their opponents in the head.
UFC fighters will only be allowed to kick each other in the shins.
Well now, the concussion is the actual point in boxing and UCF.
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It is a prophylactic rule.
I’d hire you in an instant to be the broadcast rules’ expert.
Five words to properly put the targeting rule in context.
Note: First BJ of the year from JumboNut Jim to RisqueNutSteve.
(That didn't take long)
Third stupid, stupid post by a stupid, stupid man who does not know the meaning of the word prophylactic. Sadly, neither did the john who impregnated his mom.
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That pointless moment of the lame half time show reminds me: outcome of the game aside, Ohio State's band.was, way, way better than Clemson's.
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Looks like the B1G West will be exciting in 2020.
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It is a prophylactic rule.
I’d hire you in an instant to be the broadcast rules’ expert.
Five words to properly put the targeting rule in context.
Note: First BJ of the year from JumboNut Jim to RisqueNutSteve.
(That didn't take long)
Third stupid, stupid post by a stupid, stupid man who does not know the meaning of the word prophylactic. Sadly, neither did the john who impregnated his mom.
Is sodomizimg your stepson considered incest in the enlightened desert of AridZona?
No, the two of you can make your vacation plans without worrying about that.
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I guess with Harbaugh you know what you get.
Quick trivia: Of teams with at least 3 appearances, what school has the best winning percentage in Rose Bowl history?
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Nothing, but nothing, personifies college football better than the Rose Bowl.
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My hat is off to the Golden Gophers. What a great year for them.
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I wonder what Nick Saban said in the locker room at half-time. If anything.
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I wonder what Nick Saban said in the locker room at half-time. If anything.
"Relax. It's Harbaugh. You got this."
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It is a prophylactic rule.
I’d hire you in an instant to be the broadcast rules’ expert.
Five words to properly put the targeting rule in context.
Note: First BJ of the year from JumboNut Jim to RisqueNutSteve.
(That didn't take long)
Third stupid, stupid post by a stupid, stupid man who does not know the meaning of the word prophylactic. Sadly, neither did the john who impregnated his mom.
Is sodomizimg your stepson considered incest in the enlightened desert of AridZona?
No, the two of you can make your vacation plans without worrying about that.
You picked the right state to hole up in then. Good job! Jim wants seconds.
Well then, you should service him again. If he paid up. Don't let posting.stop you. Please.
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
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Making it a 15 yard penalty is condoning targeting, what’s your solution but the rule is clear and was correctly applied, say you don’t like the rule and own it, and don’t equivocate about whether it’s a good call or not, just say: “I don’t like the targeting rule” and shut the fuck up, I’m sick of it.
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If you have been lucky enough to attend a Rose Bowl the view of the San Gabriel Mountains right now at about 5 pm PST is worth the trip alone.
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Quick trivia: Of teams with at least 3 appearances, what school has the best winning percentage in Rose Bowl history?
Not sure, but I think I know the answer to "of teams with at least 30 Rose Bowl Appearances, which has the best winning percentage?"
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Just another boring Rose Bowl.
LOL
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Go Ala... Go Mi... Fuck this game.
Yeah. I had picked Alabama in the poll. But I would not have minded if Michigan had won, since I all for the downfall of the evil empire. But I was pretty ambivalent
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
They're defending the indefensible, again. It is not a game, it is life and death. Winning is the only thing. The rule is stupid. They know what they signed up for. We want bone-crushing collisions like a demolition derby....blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....
You stupid, stupid man. The only person here protesting the rule is the one whose dick is permanently lodged in your cheeks.
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Quick trivia: Of teams with at least 3 appearances, what school has the best winning percentage in Rose Bowl history?
Not sure, but I think I know the answer to "of teams with at least 30 Rose Bowl Appearances, which has the best winning percentage?"
Heh. One of the losses plays into my answer.
Alabama is.4 - 1 -1. The tie separates.them.
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Have you ever driven from Vegas to Phoenix at sunset with a shower and lightning coming in?
My most interesting experience like that was driving East on the 40 at night about 20 years ago with lightning strikes visibly hitting the ground on both sides of the freeway. While I was indeed impressed by the "Light Show," I was also scared s***less. I have never been that scared inside the Rosebowl...even when UCLA actually threatened to win. Therefore, I'm going to give the nod to watching the sunset at the Rosebowl out of those two experiences.
Though tonight, I was completely happy watching scarlet and blue intermix over the Saddleback Mountain out my back window while watching the Rosebowl from our family room.
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Just another boring Rose Bowl.
LOL
You know, that stupid, stupid man knows and cares so little about college football it is a wonder he posts.
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
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Have you ever driven from Vegas to Phoenix at sunset with a shower and lightning coming in?
My most interesting experience like that was driving East on the 40 at night about 20 years ago with lightning strikes visibly hitting the ground on both sides of the freeway. While I was indeed impressed by the "Light Show," I was also scared s***less. I have never been that scared inside the Rosebowl...even when UCLA actually threatened to win. Therefore, I'm going to give the nod to watching the sunset at the Rosebowl out of those two experiences.
Though tonight, I was completely happy watching scarlet and blue intermix over the Saddleback Mountain out my back window while watching the Rosebowl from our family room.
Lightning storms are like Methchicken cheerleaders: beautiful at a distance.
Personally, I never tire of Big Sur.
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If you have been lucky enough to attend a Rose Bowl the view of the San Gabriel Mountains right now at about 5 pm PST is worth the trip alone.
Nice game Jim. Hope you had a good time. I especially liked the ending.
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
Careful, cap. Some stupid, stupid man is about to mock you.
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
Careful, cap. Some stupid, stupid man is about to mock you.
You're starting to froth a bit bro. Its okay though.
LOL
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
That Jack Tatum died young and Earl Campbell can barely walk is probably an argument that those that don't think that stuff was great can make.
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
That Jack Tatum died young and Earl Campbell can barely walk is probably an argument that those that don't think that stuff was great can make.
Ali shook later on too. But he was the GREATEST.
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
It’s me tho, basically you are making the “get off my lawn”/“In my day...” logical fallacy, they have known this rule since high school..., what’s your beef, professional boxers and UFC fighters make a professional decision to forego the risk, and so has the NFL which applies the rule tighter than NCAA imo, questioning “targeting” on the TLaw play *is* dumb, and I like you cap but your argument is flawed.
You don’t like NCAA or NFL football don’t watch it.
That’s also a choice, but the idea these rules could be reversed is a non-starter...
The professional referee which I’m sure you categorize as an *apologist* was good enough for me and his logic was sound, good enough for me, and correct I thought.
If you think football should be played in a manner in which you can potentially end a players career, that’s sad, and you are detached from reality if you *argue* Tlaw lowered his head, go right ahead but I’ve seen the game 3-4 times including replay, and it’s just not factual.
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
That Jack Tatum died young and Earl Campbell can barely walk is probably an argument that those that don't think that stuff was great can make.
Ali shook later on too. But he was the GREATEST.
And it's sad he's no longer with us.
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And, like, we know about CTE now, the good old days were not ambivalent to science, they just didn’t have it, and btw, the rule is one reason a dad May let his kid play amateur football.
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And I’m not making an argument, just laying out objective facts, not matters in dispute, I get nostagia for the way things *used to be* but I’m not going to endorse lousy practices...in a bang/bang play, bang you were in and bang you are gone, sfw??
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Have you ever driven from Vegas to Phoenix at sunset with a shower and lightning coming in?
My most interesting experience like that was driving East on the 40 at night about 20 years ago with lightning strikes visibly hitting the ground on both sides of the freeway. While I was indeed impressed by the "Light Show," I was also scared s***less. I have never been that scared inside the Rosebowl...even when UCLA actually threatened to win. Therefore, I'm going to give the nod to watching the sunset at the Rosebowl out of those two experiences.
Though tonight, I was completely happy watching scarlet and blue intermix over the Saddleback Mountain out my back window while watching the Rosebowl from our family room.
Great story, Troj. Glad the PAC12 champs got the win. Have a good night with the family and best wishes for the New 2020 Year.
Best thunder soun show? On the Bosporus Straits in Turkei. The thunder rolls for about 20 miles and overlaps with the earlier echoes. Have never heard anything close like it since,
Saw that.from the prison, did you?
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And I’m not making an argument, just laying out objective facts, not matters in dispute, I get nostagia for the way things *used to be* but I’m not going to endorse lousy practices...in a bang/bang play, bang you were in and bang you are gone, sfw??
One of my friends had a sister married to a Purdue football player. Preseason his senior year in practice, gets hit while snapping the ball and his neck is broken. Died right on the practice field.
So no body ....
This list of college players killed while playing football does not match your story. Perhaps you have the wrong team? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_players_who_died_during_their_careers
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_players_who_died_during_their_careers)
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And I’m not making an argument, just laying out objective facts, not matters in dispute, I get nostagia for the way things *used to be* but I’m not going to endorse lousy practices...in a bang/bang play, bang you were in and bang you are gone, sfw??
One of my friends had a sister married to a Purdue football player. Preseason his senior year in practice, gets hit while snapping the ball and his neck is broken. Died right on the practice field.
So no body ....
This list of college players killed while playing football does not match your story. Perhaps you have the wrong team? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_players_who_died_during_their_careers
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_players_who_died_during_their_careers)
Or he made it up.
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Looking forward to days, if not weeks, of discussion about Walker's hit on Brewer last night.
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Looking forward to days, if not weeks, of discussion about Walker's hit on Brewer last night.
I did not see much of the game, or that play, but I assume some stupid, stupid man will use one hit to argue that Georgia is a dirty team.
Methchicken people are accusing Alabama of running up the score. I had switched away from the end of the game, but I assume by "running up the score" they mean "continue to play football until the final whistle". You know how to stop someone from running up the score? Fucking tackle someone. For the record, Methchicken's starting QB threw a touchdown pass up by 4 touchdowns with 2:33 to play against us. I am pretty sure Pete.Carroll - or trojan - would have some thoughts on running up the score against Harbaugh as well.
Hard to beat someone who forces you into 4 turnovers. But Wisky's maligned by idiots who might as well still be blindfolded and buggered in a Turkish prison Defense held the Ducks to 204 total yards, 70 on the opening drive. One scoop and score.on a botched punt, two TDs on turnovers around the Wisky 30. Tough hole to climb out of, though tackling the quarterback would have helped.
The equally maligned by idiots who might as well still be blindfolded and buggered in a Turkish prison Gophers Defense did a great job against a God's Conference elite team -.well, defensively elite at least.
The Pure Prairie League had a rough bowl season. 1 and 5, including a loss to a Gang of Five team, with only Texas over the allegedly vacationing Utes.
Still one game involving Power 5 teams to play, but God's Conference dominated the bowl season this year. 6 - 2, including winning all three of its NY6 games.
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So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis
The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
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So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis
The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
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And I’m not making an argument, just laying out objective facts, not matters in dispute, I get nostagia for the way things *used to be* but I’m not going to endorse lousy practices...in a bang/bang play, bang you were in and bang you are gone, sfw??
One of my friends had a sister married to a Purdue football player. Preseason his senior year in practice, gets hit while snapping the ball and his neck is broken. Died right on the practice field.
So no body ....
This list of college players killed while playing football does not match your story. Perhaps you have the wrong team? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_players_who_died_during_their_careers
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_players_who_died_during_their_careers)
Jim, You think someone would forget the school it happened at?
Out of curiosity, what is your level of confidence that Wikipedia's listing is complete?
Personally I trust wikipedia's over anyone's convenient example from personal experience posted on the internet. I always assume those are lies and am rarely disappointed.
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So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis
The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
I see no reason why any year would be different than this one.
The elites are consistently better each year with much stronger budgets and recruiting. Six teams only adds one power five team to the mix(unless the Powers buy off the gang of five)
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Close to 40 years ago, a guy I knew destroyed his leg and his future during an idiotic "football" drill at Ohio State. Google "Curt Curtis Ohio State".
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So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis
The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
I see no reason why any year would be different than this one.
The elites are consistently better each year with much stronger budgets and recruiting. Six teams only adds one power five team to the mix(unless the Powers buy off the gang of five)
Yeah, for the 6 team model to work I just wrote the Gang of 5 out in favor of a 5 Conference champs, one wild card scenario. This year that would have meant Oklahoma - Georgia and ClemSIN - Oregon.
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So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis
The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
I see no reason why any year would be different than this one.
The elites are consistently better each year with much stronger budgets and recruiting. Six teams only adds one power five team to the mix(unless the Powers buy off the gang of five)
Yeah, for the 6 team model to work I just wrote the Gang of 5 out in favor of a 5 Conference champs, one wild card scenario. This year that would have meant Oklahoma - Georgia and ClemSIN - Oregon.
And how do the games play out?
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So, using the final CFP rankings and adding in Memphis an 8 team playoff would be
LSU
tOSU
Clem
Okla
Oregon
Georgia
Wisconsin
Memphis
The first question is how many of those teams could win three times?
Answer is only the top three
Next who would care to watch LSU beat Memphis or tOSU play Wisconsin a third time.?
Answer is not many.
Who would pay to travel to watch those games?
Answer is even fewer.
Well, it is a mistake to set policy for all seasons based upon how that policy would function in a single instance. Most years would not have a rematch of a rematch in the first round. That being said, there is a reason why I think 6 teams would be better than 8. I can think of no arguments.against 6 that are not also applicable to 8 - except that, for this year, the team I consider to be the best team in the country would have to win 3 games. Although that would be ameliorated by getting to watch ClemSIN play Georgia.
I see no reason why any year would be different than this one.
The elites are consistently better each year with much stronger budgets and recruiting. Six teams only adds one power five team to the mix(unless the Powers buy off the gang of five)
Yeah, for the 6 team model to work I just wrote the Gang of 5 out in favor of a 5 Conference champs, one wild card scenario. This year that would have meant Oklahoma - Georgia and ClemSIN - Oregon.
And how do the games play out?
ClemSIN toasts Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.
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ClemSIN toasts Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.
When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
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God's Conference dominated the bowl season this year. 6 - 2, including winning all three of its NY6 games.
yeah, but "They Suck" is a subjective term.
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ClemSIN toasts Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.
When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
Logistis tbd.
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ClemSIN toasts Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.
When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
Logistis tbd.
No matter how you determine logistics any schedule will reduce the potential tv ratings and the ticket buying interest. Plus it will give the top two teams two weeks of prep and recovery time.
Before we leap to expanding the number of games the NCAA needs to maximize revenues by getting the semis on NYD.
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ClemSIN toasts Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.
When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
Logistis tbd.
No matter how you determine logistics any schedule will reduce the potential tv ratings and the ticket buying interest. Plus it will give the top two teams two weeks of prep and recovery time.
Before we leap to expanding the number of games the NCAA needs to maximize revenues by getting the semis on NYD.
I agree with that last. Are you going to tell the Rose Bowl, or am I?
Either the Rose or the Sugar needs to give up their NYD slot. You might be able to throw money at the PAC or.Big 12, but it comes down to the Big 10 or the SEC blinking and that will be a long, long wait.
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ClemSIN toasts Oregon, Georgia beats Oklahoma. So you still get Tigers/Tigers.
When and where do you play those games?
This year the available Saturdays would have been the 14th and 21st which already had NFL games.
Logistis tbd.
No matter how you determine logistics any schedule will reduce the potential tv ratings and the ticket buying interest. Plus it will give the top two teams two weeks of prep and recovery time.
Before we leap to expanding the number of games the NCAA needs to maximize revenues by getting the semis on NYD.
I agree with that last. Are you going to tell the Rose Bowl, or am I?
Either the Rose or the Sugar needs to give up their NYD slot. You might be able to throw money at the PAC or.Big 12, but it comes down to the Big 10 or the SEC blinking and that will be a long, long wait.
It is a $ number. That satisfies the step Bowls and the Two conferences.
It may be a number that is unattainable.
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Old Mississippi has hired.D J Durkins to be defensive coordinator and run its off season conditioning program. Kiffin promises."killer workouts".
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Old Mississippi has hired.D J Durkins to be defensive coordinator and run its off season conditioning program. Kiffin promises."killer workouts".
I saw this morning that Kiffin had hired him. I assume him being in charge of offseason conditioning was merely a part of your set up and not actually true? That would be in poor taste if it were true...and I think even Kiffin is not quite that stupid
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The poor taste is on me. As The Mqn Who Hires Welles put it, "An attempt at humor, I assume."
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
It’s me tho, basically you are making the “get off my lawn”/“In my day...” logical fallacy, they have known this rule since high school..., what’s your beef, professional boxers and UFC fighters make a professional decision to forego the risk, and so has the NFL which applies the rule tighter than NCAA imo, questioning “targeting” on the TLaw play *is* dumb, and I like you cap but your argument is flawed.
You don’t like NCAA or NFL football don’t watch it.
That’s also a choice, but the idea these rules could be reversed is a non-starter...
The professional referee which I’m sure you categorize as an *apologist* was good enough for me and his logic was sound, good enough for me, and correct I thought.
If you think football should be played in a manner in which you can potentially end a players career, that’s sad, and you are detached from reality if you *argue* Tlaw lowered his head, go right ahead but I’ve seen the game 3-4 times including replay, and it’s just not factual.
I like you too JB.
But don't tell me if I don't like it, it is their ball and go home.
I think football was a man's sport back in the day. Now it's a don't get hurt rules sport. Cover everyone in nerf and be done with it. Vegetarians are of the same ilk. Screw them I'm eating meat and I also want my football to be mean ass hard hitting.
Potentially? Every play is potentially career ending. Play real football. Eat real meat, fuck Burger King.
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You guys sound like idiots regarding the targeting rule, and *intent* has nothing to do with it when the action alone was egregious, like the TLaw hit, I knew that guy was gone from the first replay.
They both should have been ejected so tOSU got off light IMO, other dude threw a punch...wtf?
It’s a good rule, helmet to helmet play is never, ever excusable, so dumb.
You guys, I thought, were better than that, so fucking dumb.
Shaddap.
The Earl Campbell/Jack Tatum collision is one of the best plays I've ever seen. Two men playing football. Hundreds, no, probably thousands of like hits throughout college football history. Never see that great stuff ever again.
That Jack Tatum died young and Earl Campbell can barely walk is probably an argument that those that don't think that stuff was great can make.
Ali shook later on too. But he was the GREATEST.
And it's sad he's no longer with us.
Nobody lives forever. He earned his glory and legend. May he rest in piece.
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Close to 40 years ago, a guy I knew destroyed his leg and his future during an idiotic "football" drill at Ohio State. Google "Curt Curtis Ohio State".
YG, Did Mr. Curtis ever receive any compensation from OSU?
I don't know.
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Ontongeny recapitulates phylogeny.
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Ontongeny recapitulates phylogeny.
And vice versa. Metaphorically..
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The poor taste is on me. As The Mqn Who Hires Welles put it, "An attempt at humor, I assume."
As a joke it was funny. If it were true...not so much.
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Shocked - shocked! - to see that Chase Young is turning pro.
God's Conference went 7 - 2 in its bowls.
The South Atlantic League may have been even worse than the Pure Prairie Leaguez in some ways. While they won four games, only two of their wins were.against Power 5 teams, and they suffered 3 losses to Gang of.5.teams, including yesterday's beatdown of BC. The take all year was that the SAL was ClemSIN and some turds, and the bowl season bore that out.
PAWCP finished above .500 but that was in part to their playing Illinois and frankly if you cannot beat Illinois you have no business in a bowl game.
Last night's.exhibition of Recapitulation Theory left the Big Whatever below ,500 overall, and in their head to head matchups with God's Conference.
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Actually, no, your lack of humor makes your comment the stupidest comment of the new decade. But you are a stupid, stupid man.
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And its all because I lack a sense of humour!
I am glad you can admit it.
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Twenty five or so years ago, I used to think internet forums held the promise for intelligent discussion of opposing concepts. I think I badly misjudged how they would be used.
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Twenty five or so years ago, I used to think internet forums held the promise for intelligent discussion of opposing concepts. I think I badly misjudged how they would be used.
Amen Brother Ben!
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Internet forums are weaponized talk radio.
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Who's going to enforce those rules?
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Well then, except for the castration thing, it should be easy.
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Current moderator is very selective in who he moderates
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Internet forums are weaponized talk radio.
And anyone repeatedly calling anyone's mother a whore should be castrated.
Sure, advocate for a penalty that cannot apply to you.
A functional ignore feature would work wonders.
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Internet forums are weaponized talk radio.
And anyone repeatedly calling anyone's mother a whore should be castrated.
Sure, advocate for a penalty that cannot apply to you.
Would never apply to me because I would never and have never called anyone's Mother a whore.
Well, that plus your act of genital self-mutilation.
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And people say there is no good news anymore.
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Ontongeny recapitulates phylogeny.
And vice versa. Metaphorically..
LOL
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Yes! We beat Methchicken!
https://aol.it/37bzL0s
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Mike Leach moves from the most Godforsakenly isolated Power 5 school to the second most Godforsakenly isolated Power 5 school. Some sort of progress, I guess.
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Re:Leach...it must be more money. Though he has shown signs of fatigue at WSU the last two years. I think he is the kind of guy that wears out his welcome...a bit like Jim Harbaugh?
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Re:Leach...it must be more money. Though he has shown signs of fatigue at WSU the last two years. I think he is the kind of guy that wears out his welcome...a bit like Jim Harbaugh?
I think the Palouse is beautiful, but it has to be hard to convince kids to come there.
No word on if he is bringing his old Texas Tech "lock them in a storage room till they stop being pussies about it" concussion protocol to Starkville.
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Re:Leach...it must be more money. Though he has shown signs of fatigue at WSU the last two years. I think he is the kind of guy that wears out his welcome...a bit like Jim Harbaugh?
I think the Palouse is beautiful, but it has to be hard to convince kids to come there.
No word on if he is bringing his old Texas Tech "lock them in a storage room till they stop being pussies about it" concussion protocol to Starkville.
Nobody was locked in.
But you're right, assholes that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously should not be punished. Else their somewhat famous, asshole, daddy will scream bloody murder. Poor poor fucking asshole/s.
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Re:Leach...it must be more money. Though he has shown signs of fatigue at WSU the last two years. I think he is the kind of guy that wears out his welcome...a bit like Jim Harbaugh?
Whatttt?
Harbaugh has had what - 4 gigs in 16 years? All leaving for greener grass.
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Re:Leach...it must be more money. Though he has shown signs of fatigue at WSU the last two years. I think he is the kind of guy that wears out his welcome...a bit like Jim Harbaugh?
I think the Palouse is beautiful, but it has to be hard to convince kids to come there.
No word on if he is bringing his old Texas Tech "lock them in a storage room till they stop being pussies about it" concussion protocol to Starkville.
Nobody was locked in.
But you're right, assholes that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously should not be punished. Else their somewhat famous, asshole, daddy will scream bloody murder. Poor poor fucking asshole/s.
A diagnosed concussion and doctor's orders to not practice equals "asshole[] that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously." Got it.
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Internet forums are weaponized talk radio.
The worst part is random drive-by posts from people who have never posted in the forum before. The ugly equivalent of "first-time caller. "
Anywho, I read the last couple pages (yes, the Palouse is gorgeous) and Politics forum looking pretty tame right now. Though there was a fair amount of pedo talk when Utley used to troll there.
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Nobody was locked in.
But you're right, assholes that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously should not be punished. Else their somewhat famous, asshole, daddy will scream bloody murder. Poor poor fucking asshole/s.
A diagnosed concussion and doctor's orders to not practice equals "asshole[] that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously." Got it.
That's why Mike let the boy stay in a darkened , quiet controlled environment--just in case. Isn't that exactly what you are supposed to do for a concussion protocol? :0
Sorry, but I side more with Casey on this one. Craig James was an A-Hole before and after this incident.
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Harbaugh has had what - 4 gigs in 16 years? All leaving for greener grass.
That's an average of 4 years each. I'll stand by my assertion. He had pretty much worn out his welcome at each place before he left. Notwithstanding the one Super Bowl appearance (which you really do have to give him credit for), he never quite lives up to the expectations that he leads fans to believe he will achieve when he arrives and then he grates on them and the organization with his odd behavior and demanding personality.
Most people I have heard that have had interactions with him come away not being fans. I am not a UCLA or Rick Neuheisel fan by any means, but I have heard him tell several stories about what a jerk Harbaugh is.
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Nobody was locked in.
But you're right, assholes that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously should not be punished. Else their somewhat famous, asshole, daddy will scream bloody murder. Poor poor fucking asshole/s.
A diagnosed concussion and doctor's orders to not practice equals "asshole[] that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously." Got it.
That's why Mike let the boy stay in a darkened , quiet controlled environment--just in case. Isn't that exactly what you are supposed to do for a concussion protocol? :0
Sorry, but I side more with Casey on this one. Craig James was an A-Hole before and after this incident.
Yes to that last part.
We have learned more about concussion treatment and the dangers of CTE in the last 10 years. But even then, throw him into a darkened room for a few hours probably wasn't the prescribed treatment. And I doubt Leach would do it now.
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That's an average of 4 years each. I'll stand by my assertion. He had pretty much worn out his welcome at each place before he left. Notwithstanding the one Super Bowl appearance (which you really do have to give him credit for), he never quite lives up to the expectations that he leads fans to believe he will achieve when he arrives and then he grates on them and the organization with his odd behavior and demanding personality.
About as wrong as you ever could be
Peace, bro
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That's an average of 4 years each. I'll stand by my assertion. He had pretty much worn out his welcome at each place before he left. Notwithstanding the one Super Bowl appearance (which you really do have to give him credit for), he never quite lives up to the expectations that he leads fans to believe he will achieve when he arrives and then he grates on them and the organization with his odd behavior and demanding personality.
About as wrong as you ever could be
Peace, bro
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't take it personally that you disagree. We live on opposite sides of this track. Most everyone I know agrees with me. I know he also has his supporters or he would not keep getting hired.
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THE still sucks dead rats
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ClemSIN 38, the Louisiana State University 35
I love both of these offenses. Skill all across the board,.great receivers, great running backs. I like ClemWINS defenses - keeping the typo - tLSU has had.some issues. Well, not the last game of course. Burreaux has been magic this year, and I have the football mancrush on Edwards-Hilaire, but in the end, I think Etienne is the difference.
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Re:Leach...it must be more money. Though he has shown signs of fatigue at WSU the last two years. I think he is the kind of guy that wears out his welcome...a bit like Jim Harbaugh?
I think the Palouse is beautiful, but it has to be hard to convince kids to come there.
No word on if he is bringing his old Texas Tech "lock them in a storage room till they stop being pussies about it" concussion protocol to Starkville.
Nobody was locked in.
But you're right, assholes that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously should not be punished. Else their somewhat famous, asshole, daddy will scream bloody murder. Poor poor fucking asshole/s.
A diagnosed concussion and doctor's orders to not practice equals "asshole[] that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously." Got it.
Disrupting practice and grabassing, distracting from practice. Yes, ASSHOLE. Got told to GTFO of here. Good for Leach. Kid should have told his dad to butt the fuck out. Like a man.
Got it.
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Re:Leach...it must be more money. Though he has shown signs of fatigue at WSU the last two years. I think he is the kind of guy that wears out his welcome...a bit like Jim Harbaugh?
I think the Palouse is beautiful, but it has to be hard to convince kids to come there.
No word on if he is bringing his old Texas Tech "lock them in a storage room till they stop being pussies about it" concussion protocol to Starkville.
Nobody was locked in.
But you're right, assholes that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously should not be punished. Else their somewhat famous, asshole, daddy will scream bloody murder. Poor poor fucking asshole/s.
A diagnosed concussion and doctor's orders to not practice equals "asshole[] that want to fuck off and not take practice seriously." Got it.
Disrupting practice and grabassing, distracting from practice. Yes, ASSHOLE. Got told to GTFO of here. Good for Leach. Kid should have told his dad to butt the fuck out. Like a man.
Got it.
An asshole with a concussion has a concussion.
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The only way to get to the Cheez-It Bowl is by being a hard-ass.
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The only way to get to the Cheez-It Bowl is by being a hard-ass.
Well, I had the offer of a free ticket.
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"What time does tonight's Cheez-It Bowl start?"
"Well, what time can you get here?"
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Another OSU alum, now a coach, upstages another Harbaugh.
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What time is the game tonight? I like Ed O and I hope they can change the narrative of the past several years by dialing one up. I might turn it on later and watch some of it. But I'm not going to make a night of it. My daughter has dance until 6:45 PST and I'm going to work until I need to pick her up. College ball has lost some of its luster to me with the transfer portal and kids not playing in bowls etc. This is why I stopped watching the NFL 15 or so years ago.
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What time is the game tonight? I like Ed O and I hope they can change the narrative of the past several years by dialing one up. I might turn it on later and watch some of it. But I'm not going to make a night of it. My daughter has dance until 6:45 PST and I'm going to work until I need to pick her up. College ball has lost some of its luster to me with the transfer portal and kids not playing in bowls etc. This is why I stopped watching the NFL 15 or so years ago.
5:00 pst though kick off is probably 15 minutes later. I suggest moving with your daughter to Yonkers in order to get home in time for kickoff.
Don't understand the hate for the transfer portal. If a kid wants to transfer, why not let him make that known?
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What time is the game tonight? I like Ed O and I hope they can change the narrative of the past several years by dialing one up. I might turn it on later and watch some of it. But I'm not going to make a night of it. My daughter has dance until 6:45 PST and I'm going to work until I need to pick her up. College ball has lost some of its luster to me with the transfer portal and kids not playing in bowls etc. This is why I stopped watching the NFL 15 or so years ago.
I suspect a USC revival of fortunes would get you excited again. 😀
As to your earlier complaint about the lack of civility on message boards. I am moving on to a Big Ten Board where I will be the moderator. The platform is solid and is backed down by strict anti/flaming guidelines.
Fight On!
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Can a player go in the transfer portal and then still return to his team?
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Kids can leave the portal and the school can take them back.
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I'm thinking LSU and the way over
45-31
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Huge ovation for Trump
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Kids can leave the portal and the school can take them back.
Thanks
I know this is a new thing but does this actually happen often?
Would a player check with the staff first, see if they would be welcome back?
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Interesting that the officiating crew is free m the Pac12
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LSU now +7.5 for 1st half. Take it?
+2.5 for game.
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Cheap shot - defenseless receiver - no call on LSU DB
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Cheap shot - defenseless receiver - no call on LSU DB
Some stupid, stupid man would probably argue that.hit made the whole team a.dirty team. But only if their jerseys were scarlet. But that.would only fome.from a stupid, stupid, stupid man.
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WOW.
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Cheap shot - defenseless receiver - no call on LSU DB
Clean hit
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If they had any balls they would have put OJ on the 11. He may have been the best college back i saw play.
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What time is the game tonight? I like Ed O and I hope they can change the narrative of the past several years by dialing one up. I might turn it on later and watch some of it. But I'm not going to make a night of it. My daughter has dance until 6:45 PST and I'm going to work until I need to pick her up. College ball has lost some of its luster to me with the transfer portal and kids not playing in bowls etc. This is why I stopped watching the NFL 15 or so years ago.
I suspect a USC revival of fortunes would get you excited again. 😀
As to your earlier complaint about the lack of civility on message boards. I am moving on to a Big Ten Board where I will be the moderator. The platform is solid and is backed down by strict anti/flaming guidelines.
Fight On!
Good Luck Jim
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Kids can leave the portal and the school can take them back.
Thanks
I know this is a new thing but does this actually happen often?
Would a player check with the staff first, see if they would be welcome back?
USC has had players return to the team after not having luck in the portal. They also had a player leave for another team and then later come back.
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I turned on the TV to see the refs call face mask...not paying attention to the fact that the only reason the LSU defender could only get one hand out on the attempted tackle was because he was the recipient of a wrap around hold at the time. Pretty selective penalty call there.
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Cheap shot - defenseless receiver - no call on LSU DB
Some stupid, stupid man would probably argue that.hit made the whole team a.dirty team. But only if their jerseys were scarlet. But that.would only fome.from a stupid, stupid, stupid man.
When it happens repeatedly and over a period of say 50 years....then LSU would be a Dirty team like your BuckNuts. If a Silver Bullet BuckNut had that "opportunity to take the 'kill shot'" as the BuckNut manual requires, the receiver would have been undercut, and flipped on his head.
That you are blind to the truth is hardly surprising or unexpected.
That you are a stupid, stupid man and a hate filled bag of pus is well known. Y tu mama tambien.
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tough night JB
but you lost to a helluva team
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Cheap shot - defenseless receiver - no call on LSU DB
Clean hit
exaxtly!
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Nail in the coffin coming up.
Lights out, Good-bye Elba until Oct.
Thank God.
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Anyway, it is good to see a new team as champion. My old cyberpal Becky should be happy.
If it is any consolation, jbott, ClemSIN is in pretty good shape to be back next year. ClemSIN and The enter into the season with elite level quarterbacks, while most of the other the other elite contending teams - Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Oregon - have big questions to answer at the game's most important position.
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I agree that it is good to see some turnover at the top. It was getting pretty boring for all the rest of us when only two teams could win.
...well, three if you count Michigan State, of course.
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The CFP has a new Champion, but the format is not changing anytime soon, if ever.
Bill Hancock the front man for the old BCS and now the CFP was reappointed yesterday reaffirming his support of the college Predidents and the CFP Committee and, moreover, their desire not to change the four team format. With still six years left on the CFP contract with ESPN all stakeholders seem contented not to change a system that keeps producing undisputed champions.
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LSU’s passing game coordinator Joe Brady has told people today that he is planning to return to the NFL and the Carolina Panthers, per league sources.
Enjoy the replays of 2019, LSU without Burrow and Brady, may not be the same again.
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I agree that it is good to see some turnover at the top. It was getting pretty boring for all the rest of us when only two teams could win.
...well, three if you count Michigan State, of course.
Odds to win the NCAA National championship next year have been released. MSU is 500 to 1. In my best Jim Carrey voice... "So you're saying we have a chance!"
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LSU’s national championship game victory against Clemson drew nearly 26 million viewers to ESPN, up slightly from last year’s final.
ESPN said Tuesday that viewership for the three-game College Football Playoff increased 4% from last season, when Clemson beat Alabama in the championship.
The network’s championship game megacast, which includes ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU and ESPNews, drew 25.6 million viewers. Last year’s megacast had 25.3 million viewers. The ESPN-only audience was also up over last year, from 24.3 million to 25 million.
Joe Burrow, the Heisman Trophy winner, led No. 1 LSU to a 42-25 victory Monday night in New Orleans. The game was 28-25 in the third quarter before LSU surged and put away the title early in the fourth quarter.
Overall, the television audience for New Year’s Six games were down 4% over last year for ESPN
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Overall, the television audience for New Year’s Six games were down 4% over last year for ESPN
Does this include the "play off" games that were not held on New year's day?
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Overall, the television audience for New Year’s Six games were down 4% over last year for ESPN
Does this include the "play off" games that were not held on New year's day?
Yes.
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Overall, the television audience for New Year’s Six games were down 4% over last year for ESPN
Does this include the "play off" games that were not held on New year's day?
Yes.
Why is REDSTATEWARD answering questions meant for Espnthree?
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I assume that is a rhetorical question?
In any case, since the answer was yes, the reason for the down turn in ratings on NY6 games is simply because they were "not" all on New Year's Day? And everyone still seems to be learning that lesson?
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I assume that is a rhetorical question?
In any case, since the answer was yes, the reason for the down turn in ratings on NY6 games is simply because they were "not" all on New Year's Day? And everyone still seems to be learning that lesson?
“Everyone has figured it out” . The problem is no one has away to solve it.
Not as long as the Pac12, the BIG, and the Rose Bowl remain in contract along with the SEC and the Sugar Bowl.
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Trump all class with LSU squad
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/white-house-lsu-ceremony-donald-trump/index.html
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11. University of California*
In all honesty, this is a place holder. I expect someone from the Pure Prairie League or the PAWCP, or a fourth God’s Conference team, to go a strong 9 – 3. Just not sure who. Almost went with Okie State, or Florida. I had Texas here, before I slapped myself upside the head. They are not back until they are back. Assuming they’ve settled on the North Scottsdale Flash at quarterback, they should have a good offense. It is a tough schedule, though. Ah, well, a shout out to trojen.
* Southern
10. Louisiana State
Who is playing quarterback? Yes, LSU has a lot of returning talent, but who is playing quarterback? Burreaux was that good at reading and understanding defenses, extending plays, and finding his stable of all world wide outs. They have also had a lot of departures to the pros, including Jefferson, Moss and Edwards-Hilaire. Is Brendan Myles going to be able to provide some degree of what Burreaux did, especially with Brady also gone? There were games where Burreaux was clearly the difference, without him, do they win those? Until I see Myles actually do it, I cannot see them being better than, say, Alabama or Georgia. Or even Florida, who they draw across conference, even if I have them rated above Florida.
9. Wisconsin
In large measure, this is because I do not believe in Minnesota’s revival. The Big Whatever’s West is comparatively weak, the difference is in who they draw across conference. Here, Wisky draws Methchicken and the aforementioned Indiana, and OLofPT out of conference but avoids The and PSU and eventual 2021 National Champion Michigan State. Iowa, who I see as the next best team, gets The and PSU, plus MSU. Wisky needs to replace Taylor, but getting someone to run behind the beef has never been an issue for them.
8 Oregon
I do not know who the Quarterback will be – I am conditionally gearing up on my Shough of Despond jokes, because who does not love them some Pilgrim’s Progress references. But Oregon has rebuilt their brand on their line, so the loss of most of the offensive line worries me more. But Vardell is back, as is most of the defense. They have a problematic game out of the gate – they would not be the first team to look past North Dakota State – and even though it is at home I suspect The in Game 2 will be more than a jelling team can handle. But their toughest road test all year is probably the Apple Cup, or else… Arizona? I don’t know, anyone in the PAWCP I expect to be any good goes to Eugene.
7. the Pennsylvania State University
Franklin has the right stuff to coach a team up to the level of very good. Greatness appears to elude him. Still, the PSU has a lot of returning talent – they were overall a young team last year - crucially in the offensive backfield and along the offensive line. They have some defensive losses, but have recruited well. Their schedule takes them to Blacksburg VA for an OOC game against Virginia Tech, but other than a trip to Methchicken, all of their tougher Big Whatever games are at home. The is still the class of the Big Whatever, but the PSU is a worthy challenger.
6. Georgia
Of the teams with QB issues, I guess Georgia has the readiest answer, having picked up Newman, the grad transfer from Woke. But as an answer… I saw the rebroadcast of the Pinstripe Bowl and I am not sure he is a GOOD answer. Their running game will be less… Swift. I think that God’s Conference East comes down to Florida and Georgia again. For now, I go with Georgia.
5. Oklahoma
There are a few teams I think are going to be better than Oklahoma that I rank behind them, but I think Oklahoma walks through the Pure Prairie League. Sure, some will argue that Texas is back but I will believe that when it happens. Like many of the teams behind them, Oklahoma has QB issues, but Lincoln Riley has lost stellar quarterbacks before. They also lose a lot of wide receivers. But most of the defense returns, and the defense played pretty well until that last game. The conference is mediocre, specially if you think Baylor’s coaching change Rhules them out. (Do you see what I did there). OOC, they get Tennessee at home, but have to travel to the always challenging Army. I think they are set up for another likely 1 loss season.
4. Alabama
One year on the sidelines is enough. I do not know who their starting QB will be, but I assume whoever it is knowing what they have for an entire off season is enough to allow Satan to draft an offense that suits that QB – Harris is returning, so running the ball is an option. While Alabama has a lot of losses every year, the pipeline remains solid. As always, Alabama has one tough opening game – University of California (Southern) in Texas, and they finally draw a quality cross conference team (Georgia) in their third game, so any issues they have better get solved right away. Still, while there are three or four teams that could knock them off the God’s Conference perch, there are Quarterback issues for LSU and Georgia, and a flat bad QB at Auburn. I will slot them here, for now.
3. ClemSIN
They are here because I think ClemSIN’s losses are more serious than, say, Ohio State’s – it includes 4/5 of the offensive line, and Higgins and Simmons. But Trevor Lawrence returns, and he is a difference maker. Justyn Ross gives him one great target. Etienne’s surprisning decision to stay gives them one weirdly underrated weapon I had not counted on. ClemSIN’s recruiting classes have been top notch, so I expect the holes to be filled. Working most in their favor is a schedule that looks to include one dangerous game – at Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie – and a continuing down trending conference. Despite the losses, there is no reason to think they will not be one of the three or four top teams in the country.
2. The
Some will not like this, but there it is. The is facing some significant losses – Chase Young and Okudah could be among the first five draft choices, and Dobbins will be missed. But The has been reloading D line and corners for a while now, most of the O Line has returned, and The has the one attribute that sets them over all of the top flight competitors save ClemSIN: a returning high quality quarterback. Road trip to Eugene is an interesting early season game – Oregon’s defense is stout – but their QB situation is unsettled. Otherwise, the trip to Beaver Stadium is never fun, and The also travels to East Lansing for those who think that matters. But their tough cross conference game (Iowa) is at home. Another unbeaten season and a playoff appearance seems likely.
Michigan State
Yes, 2019 was a tremendous disappointment to me. Our offense never got rolling in a consistent way, Lewerke continued to make crucial errors that limited even his best games. While we did land on one running back in Collins, we were never able to consistently control the ball and the clock the way a Dantonio offense needs to. Defensively was even more of an issue. I expected problems with the offense. It was the way our defense absolutely collapsed around midseason that was alarming. Still, I am hopeful for this year. Between Theo Day, who is a pro pocket type passer, and Payton Thorne, who is more of a dual threat guy, we should be able to identify a quality starting QB. The wide receivers are a strong group where most of the games are played, on paper, and the offensive line are all experienced (for good and ill). A modicum of health and a resulting consistent and cohesive line up will help. Defensively, losing Willikes and Williams is a blow, as is losing Bachie, but we do have experienced replacements. Schedule wise, we draw the always tough Iowa (road) and sporadically tough Northwestern (home), and a resurgent Minnesota (home) across divisions, and have two interesting OOC games - BYU (road) and Miami (the real one, home) - together with The, PSU and Methchicken, so the schedule sets up tougher than we have had in the past. Still, why not predict a resurgent team? Make the passing game the soul of the offense, modernize! We can DO this thing! National Championship, baby! Or 6 and 6. Depending.
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Trump all class with LSU squad
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/white-house-lsu-ceremony-donald-trump/index.html
All? My favorite word in that article was "almost". "Donald Trump" continues to play the same roll for Donald Trump that King Charles's head played for Mr. Dick.
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You obviously don't believe in benevolent monarchies.
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You obviously don't believe in benevolent monarchies.
I think monarchies are inherently bot benevolent.
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Well, trojanhorse....
https://thespun.com/college-football/college-football-10-hardest-2020-schedules
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11. University of California*
In all honesty, this is a place holder. I expect someone from the Pure Prairie League or the PAWCP, or a fourth God’s Conference team, to go a strong 9 – 3. Just not sure who. Almost went with Okie State, or Florida. I had Texas here, before I slapped myself upside the head. They are not back until they are back. Assuming they’ve settled on the North Scottsdale Flash at quarterback, they should have a good offense. It is a tough schedule, though. Ah, well, a shout out to trojen.
* Southern
10. Louisiana State
Who is playing quarterback? Yes, LSU has a lot of returning talent, but who is playing quarterback? Burreaux was that good at reading and understanding defenses, extending plays, and finding his stable of all world wide outs. They have also had a lot of departures to the pros, including Jefferson, Moss and Edwards-Hilaire. Is Brendan Myles going to be able to provide some degree of what Burreaux did, especially with Brady also gone? There were games where Burreaux was clearly the difference, without him, do they win those? Until I see Myles actually do it, I cannot see them being better than, say, Alabama or Georgia. Or even Florida, who they draw across conference, even if I have them rated above Florida.
9. Wisconsin
In large measure, this is because I do not believe in Minnesota’s revival. The Big Whatever’s West is comparatively weak, the difference is in who they draw across conference. Here, Wisky draws Methchicken and the aforementioned Indiana, and OLofPT out of conference but avoids The and PSU and eventual 2021 National Champion Michigan State. Iowa, who I see as the next best team, gets The and PSU, plus MSU. Wisky needs to replace Taylor, but getting someone to run behind the beef has never been an issue for them.
8 Oregon
I do not know who the Quarterback will be – I am conditionally gearing up on my Shough of Despond jokes, because who does not love them some Pilgrim’s Progress references. But Oregon has rebuilt their brand on their line, so the loss of most of the offensive line worries me more. But Vardell is back, as is most of the defense. They have a problematic game out of the gate – they would not be the first team to look past North Dakota State – and even though it is at home I suspect The in Game 2 will be more than a jelling team can handle. But their toughest road test all year is probably the Apple Cup, or else… Arizona? I don’t know, anyone in the PAWCP I expect to be any good goes to Eugene.
7. the Pennsylvania State University
Franklin has the right stuff to coach a team up to the level of very good. Greatness appears to elude him. Still, the PSU has a lot of returning talent – they were overall a young team last year - crucially in the offensive backfield and along the offensive line. They have some defensive losses, but have recruited well. Their schedule takes them to Blacksburg VA for an OOC game against Virginia Tech, but other than a trip to Methchicken, all of their tougher Big Whatever games are at home. The is still the class of the Big Whatever, but the PSU is a worthy challenger.
6. Georgia
Of the teams with QB issues, I guess Georgia has the readiest answer, having picked up Newman, the grad transfer from Woke. But as an answer… I saw the rebroadcast of the Pinstripe Bowl and I am not sure he is a GOOD answer. Their running game will be less… Swift. I think that God’s Conference East comes down to Florida and Georgia again. For now, I go with Georgia.
5. Oklahoma
There are a few teams I think are going to be better than Oklahoma that I rank behind them, but I think Oklahoma walks through the Pure Prairie League. Sure, some will argue that Texas is back but I will believe that when it happens. Like many of the teams behind them, Oklahoma has QB issues, but Lincoln Riley has lost stellar quarterbacks before. They also lose a lot of wide receivers. But most of the defense returns, and the defense played pretty well until that last game. The conference is mediocre, specially if you think Baylor’s coaching change Rhules them out. (Do you see what I did there). OOC, they get Tennessee at home, but have to travel to the always challenging Army. I think they are set up for another likely 1 loss season.
4. Alabama
One year on the sidelines is enough. I do not know who their starting QB will be, but I assume whoever it is knowing what they have for an entire off season is enough to allow Satan to draft an offense that suits that QB – Harris is returning, so running the ball is an option. While Alabama has a lot of losses every year, the pipeline remains solid. As always, Alabama has one tough opening game – University of California (Southern) in Texas, and they finally draw a quality cross conference team (Georgia) in their third game, so any issues they have better get solved right away. Still, while there are three or four teams that could knock them off the God’s Conference perch, there are Quarterback issues for LSU and Georgia, and a flat bad QB at Auburn. I will slot them here, for now.
3. ClemSIN
They are here because I think ClemSIN’s losses are more serious than, say, Ohio State’s – it includes 4/5 of the offensive line, and Higgins and Simmons. But Trevor Lawrence returns, and he is a difference maker. Justyn Ross gives him one great target. Etienne’s surprisning decision to stay gives them one weirdly underrated weapon I had not counted on. ClemSIN’s recruiting classes have been top notch, so I expect the holes to be filled. Working most in their favor is a schedule that looks to include one dangerous game – at Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie – and a continuing down trending conference. Despite the losses, there is no reason to think they will not be one of the three or four top teams in the country.
2. The
Some will not like this, but there it is. The is facing some significant losses – Chase Young and Okudah could be among the first five draft choices, and Dobbins will be missed. But The has been reloading D line and corners for a while now, most of the O Line has returned, and The has the one attribute that sets them over all of the top flight competitors save ClemSIN: a returning high quality quarterback. Road trip to Eugene is an interesting early season game – Oregon’s defense is stout – but their QB situation is unsettled. Otherwise, the trip to Beaver Stadium is never fun, and The also travels to East Lansing for those who think that matters. But their tough cross conference game (Iowa) is at home. Another unbeaten season and a playoff appearance seems likely.
Michigan State
Yes, 2019 was a tremendous disappointment to me. Our offense never got rolling in a consistent way, Lewerke continued to make crucial errors that limited even his best games. While we did land on one running back in Collins, we were never able to consistently control the ball and the clock the way a Dantonio offense needs to. Defensively was even more of an issue. I expected problems with the offense. It was the way our defense absolutely collapsed around midseason that was alarming. Still, I am hopeful for this year. Between Theo Day, who is a pro pocket type passer, and Payton Thorne, who is more of a dual threat guy, we should be able to identify a quality starting QB. The wide receivers are a strong group where most of the games are played, on paper, and the offensive line are all experienced (for good and ill). A modicum of health and a resulting consistent and cohesive line up will help. Defensively, losing Willikes and Williams is a blow, as is losing Bachie, but we do have experienced replacements. Schedule wise, we draw the always tough Iowa (road) and sporadically tough Northwestern (home), and a resurgent Minnesota (home) across divisions, and have two interesting OOC games - BYU (road) and Miami (the real one, home) - together with The, PSU and Methchicken, so the schedule sets up tougher than we have had in the past. Still, why not predict a resurgent team? Make the passing game the soul of the offense, modernize! We can DO this thing! National Championship, baby! Or 6 and 6. Depending.
Nice list no real complaints. I think if there is a snake in the grass for your list it would be the Gators.
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Not.certain Florida will not be better than Georgia. They look to have what LSU finally found in 2018 in Burreaux. Maybe not the 2019 Burreaux.
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Trump all class with LSU squad
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/white-house-lsu-ceremony-donald-trump/index.html
All? My favorite word in that article was "almost". "Donald Trump" continues to play the same roll for Donald Trump that King Charles's head played for Mr. Dick.
Trump's doing a great job. My 401K is booming and a lot of asshole lifetime politicians are pissed at him. Win win.
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Trump all class with LSU squad
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/white-house-lsu-ceremony-donald-trump/index.html
All? My favorite word in that article was "almost". "Donald Trump" continues to play the same roll for Donald Trump that King Charles's head played for Mr. Dick.
Trump's doing a great job. My 401K is booming and a lot of asshole lifetime politicians are pissed at him. Win win.
So your demand on a president is that he make you rich and function as the world's foremost internet troll? Political fora thataway =>
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Trump all class with LSU squad
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/white-house-lsu-ceremony-donald-trump/index.html
All? My favorite word in that article was "almost". "Donald Trump" continues to play the same roll for Donald Trump that King Charles's head played for Mr. Dick.
Trump's doing a great job. My 401K is booming and a lot of asshole lifetime politicians are pissed at him. Win win.
So your demand on a president is that he make you rich and function as the world's foremost internet troll? Political fora thataway =>
Economy is booming. Mexico is starting to control it's borders, China is being brought to bay, Democrats lie straight faced to the people and the National Networks are in collusion with them. And an old man is kicking their 'collective' ass. As blood rolls out their ass. Yes, I'm happy.
Health care that Obama destroyed for the working middle class would be nice. But The Donald will probably get to that over the next 4 years despite their stonewalling and sopping up the blood. Boo hoo for them.
I assume you have a differing view. LOL
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Amazing. Nearly every word of that post was wrong, except the last sentence.
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I think monarchies are inherently bot benevolent.
Marcus Aurelius v Caligula
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I think monarchies are inherently bot benevolent.
Marcus Aurelius v Caligula
Reminds me of the Douglas Adam's bit about people voting for lizards so the wrong lizard doesn't get in.
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So again...you see no difference between Marcus Aurelius and some other emperor like Caligula... for lack of a worse example?
Did one just have a better publicist?
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So again...you see no difference between Marcus Aurelius and some other emperor like Caligula... for lack of a worse example?
Did one just have a better publicist?
Of course there is a difference. Just as there is a difference between a bullet in the brain and a bullet in the groin. Different, sure, but neither please and thank you.
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Clearly you are not a stoic.
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Clearly you are not a stoic.
I think of myself as being sort of like Dennis the Constitutional Peasant. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses not some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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Clearly you are not a stoic.
I think of myself as being sort of like Dennis the Constitutional Peasant. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses not some farcical aquatic ceremony.
The first movie I recall seeing at the theater when my stomach actually hurt from laughing so much. But I think it was more like "not because some watery tart threw a sword at you."
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That is the next line.
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That is the next line.
Everything about that movie is classic, right down to the brusque, no-nonsense God.
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Amazing. Nearly every word of that post was wrong, except the last sentence.
Well, you've been wrong before...
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I think monarchies are inherently bot benevolent.
Marcus Aurelius v Caligula
Good example. There are others scattered throughout history. But in this case Steve is probably more correct overall.
That correctness is really meaningless however as government by the "people" can be just as corrupt if not more. For example the current batch of Democratic scum we have in our congress is strangling the lifeblood of this country. But this is really a discussion for the Political Forum.
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Amazing. Nearly every word of that post was wrong, except the last sentence.
Well, you've been wrong before...
And will be again. This time though is an island, nay a continent of being rightness.
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Dantonio Retires.
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A Golden Era of Spartan Football comes to a close. He looked like he was getting tired.
Saban looks tired to me also. I would not be surprised if he retired end of next year if they miss out on the final four again.
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Dantonio Retires.
He leaves MSU with a career record of 8 - 5. Which trails only Duffy Daugherty's total of 10 wins.
Luke Fickell the rumored replacement.
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Other names I have seen tossed around: Narduzzi, Josh Huepel and... Urban Meyer.
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Two names that have also surfaced are Robert Saleh and Pat Shurmer. Saleh makes no sense for him or us. He's clearly on track for an NFL HC job. Shurmer is an alum, but has been unsuccessful as an NFL HC. Nards is apparently out.
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Two names that have also surfaced are Robert Saleh and Pat Shurmer. Saleh makes no sense for him or us. He's clearly on track for an NFL HC job. Shurmer is an alum, but has been unsuccessful as an NFL HC. Nards is apparently out.
I have someone I can send you. He has "solid" head coaching experience. I might even pay for the flight out.
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Two names that have also surfaced are Robert Saleh and Pat Shurmer. Saleh makes no sense for him or us. He's clearly on track for an NFL HC job. Shurmer is an alum, but has been unsuccessful as an NFL HC. Nards is apparently out.
I have someone I can send you. He has "solid" head coaching experience. I might even pay for the flight out.
No coach with feet of clay.
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No coach with feet of clay.
No takers?
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Fickell says NO to Michigan State.
Add Sparty to the growing list of Fickell “ thanks but no thanks”,
Baylor, Florida State, Mississippi State, Arkansas , and before them was it was West Virginia, Louisville, and Maryland a year ago.
Guess he likes Cincinnati.
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There are whispers that the odd timing of Dantonio's departure was to close out top level candidates who would be unwilling to change jobs at this point in order to force the job to Tressell Lite.
Failed Arkansas coach Bielema is now the rumored hot candidate.
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I am kind of thinking we go with Tressell Lite for a year, 2020 looks like a lost season anyway (not that I will not pick us to be Eventual 2020-2021 National Champion Michigan State). We can restart the search next year.
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Tucker changes his mind.
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Two similar views on what the Tucker hire means for the PAWCP:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/espns-chris-fowler-a-cu-alum-weighs-in-on-mel-tucker-to-msu/
via http://cbssportsapp.com
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/02/12/michigan-state-football-mel-tucker-hire/4735228002/
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So with Mel Tucker as the head coach I see no reason why we cannot go 12 - 0 in 2020.
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I was not impressed with Tucker at CU. But I have to admit I was not watching it all that closely. Maybe there were things happening that were not making it to the surface yet.
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Nick Saban has hired him 3 times. That has to mean something. Also, he is not Bert Beliema.
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Spartans bring back the bang stick! Harlan Barnett, architect of the No Fly Zone is going to coach the secondary again.
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Sorry, that's Da Bang.Stick. I watched a couple of his old highlights on youtube, and.all I could think of was, that'll get you suspended now.
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https://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/navy/ac-cs-david-forney-family-academy-death-0223-20200223-biwmkafhqrgk5fjza3qz4uitbi-story.html
Sad.
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Trojanhorse-
https://thespun.com/pac-12/usc/usc-pac-12-independent-realignment
Is USC a member of the Association of American Universities? Asking for a friend.
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Trojanhorse-
https://thespun.com/pac-12/usc/usc-pac-12-independent-realignment
Is USC a member of the Association of American Universities? Asking for a friend.
University of Southern California
Academic affiliations
AAU
NAICU
APRU
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Trojanhorse-
https://thespun.com/pac-12/usc/usc-pac-12-independent-realignment
Is USC a member of the Association of American Universities? Asking for a friend.
University of Southern California
Academic affiliations
AAU
NAICU
APRU
So are, among others, Cal,.UCLA, Oregon, Arizona and Colorado. LA and Denver would be interesting markets should, oh, a Midwestern Conference with an eye to growth of its TV footprint look to expand.
Though USC is a private college which does not really fit the culture.
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Trojanhorse-
https://thespun.com/pac-12/usc/usc-pac-12-independent-realignment
Is USC a member of the Association of American Universities? Asking for a friend.
University of Southern California
Academic affiliations
AAU
NAICU
APRU
So are, among others, Cal,.UCLA, Oregon, Arizona and Colorado. LA and Denver would be interesting markets should, oh, a Midwestern Conference with an eye to growth of its TV footprint look to expand.
Though USC is a private college which does not really fit the culture.
Hefty travel fees for the non-revenue teams make it a non-starter.
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I will be meeting with Mike Bohn tomorrow.
I'll ask him his opinion on going independent vs. just firing Larry Scott and hiring someone that knows what they are doing.
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Likely rule changes for college football:
Instant Replay has 2 minutes to resolve an issue. After that the call on the field stands.
Targeting penalty stays as is but guilty player can stay in the team area.
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The targeting rule sucks.
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The Chinese Wuhan Corona virus sucks worse.
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Stay safe everyone.
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The Chinese Wuhan Corona virus sucks worse.
Worse than The😁
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California on lockdown, NY on lockdown.
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Don't know if I would call it a lockdown really. But a lot of businesses are shut down. Yesterday was the first day the 24 hour numbers did not go up on new cases in the US. Not a bonafide pattern yet, but still encouraging. I didn't/don't expect to see the pattern disrupted until end of this coming week.
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Could not log on with my old password, so I started a new profile.
Just noticed USC appears to have finally learned that there is a new recruiting rhythm these days. Moving up with a bullet - #7 on Rivals and 24/7 for 2021 class
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ok look, not sure what these new changes are about. But if everyone has to go through Fort Knox security every time they want to make one post, this site is not going to last much longer. I can't even read those letters on the verification
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Nobody told him he got canned?
RUTGERS doing some nice things of late
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Still here. :-)
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Is anybody really here
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I'm not.
The Buckeyes are omnipresent however.
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I'm really getting tired of yardwork and home repairs.
Getting a lot done though I suppose.
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Did anyone catch the exciting marbles competition in ESPN2 over the weekend. It was just marbles racing each other in various set ups. Word is The wants to play them in football
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When I was a kid I used to have jars full of marbles. Most of them were hand me downs from earlier generations. I remember my dad showing me how he used to play marbles when he was a kid.
Needless to say, I lost my marbles a long time ago.
Cap nice job, the yard looks spiffy, but the bush on the right needs a little trimming.
stay healthy folks
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Did anyone catch the exciting marbles competition in ESPN2 over the weekend. It was just marbles racing each other in various set ups. Word is The wants to play them in football
Re: Marbles. Oddly, your hatred of The has caused you to lose yours.
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When I was a kid I used to have jars full of marbles. Most of them were hand me downs from earlier generations. I remember my dad showing me how he used to play marbles when he was a kid.
Needless to say, I lost my marbles a long time ago.
Cap nice job, the yard looks spiffy, but the bush on the right needs a little trimming.
stay healthy folks
Thanks Rich. Took your advice and cut the darned thing down. Looks bare there now though.
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When I was a kid I used to have jars full of marbles. Most of them were hand me downs from earlier generations. I remember my dad showing me how he used to play marbles when he was a kid.
Needless to say, I lost my marbles a long time ago.
Cap nice job, the yard looks spiffy, but the bush on the right needs a little trimming.
stay healthy folks
Thanks Rich. Took your advice and cut the darned thing down. Looks bare there now though.
Some prefer the no-bush look, others letting it grow wild and naturally.
I'm partial to a well-trimmed bush.
As an aside I remember cutting down some mature bushes only for them to sprout again so I had to do some serious digging to get to the roots. That worked.
Happy gardening cap and stay healthy. :)
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When I was a kid I used to have jars full of marbles. Most of them were hand me downs from earlier generations. I remember my dad showing me how he used to play marbles when he was a kid.
Needless to say, I lost my marbles a long time ago.
Cap nice job, the yard looks spiffy, but the bush on the right needs a little trimming.
stay healthy folks
Thanks Rich. Took your advice and cut the darned thing down. Looks bare there now though.
Some prefer the no-bush look, others letting it grow wild and naturally.
I'm partial to a well-trimmed bush.
As an aside I remember cutting down some mature bushes only for them to sprout again so I had to do some serious digging to get to the roots. That worked.
Happy gardening cap and stay healthy. :)
I've given the stump a stern glare. If that doesn't work maybe I can have Skippy talk to it. That might make it disappear.
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or bore it to death
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We have to wait until 2027. Satan will likely be gone by then, but this will likely still be epic.
https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ohio-state-versus-alabama/
The interesting thing is getting the home/home series. Bama prefers neutral sites.
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/18/sports/university-florida-ends-popular-gator-bait-cheer-citing-racist-origins (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/18/sports/university-florida-ends-popular-gator-bait-cheer-citing-racist-origins)
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — The University of Florida is ending its “gator bait” cheer at football games and other sports events because of its racial connotations, the school’s president announced Thursday in a letter making several other similar changes on campus.
Florida president Kent Fuchs said in a letter to the university’s faculty, students and staff that the cheer has a “horrific historic racist imagery” involving Black people, especially children, being used as bait for alligators.
“Accordingly, university athletics and the Gator Band will discontinue the use of the cheer," Fuchs wrote.
This reminds me of Hunter Thompson's openings in one of his Fear and Loathing essays-books.
Maybe Florida State can lend the Gators the tomahawk chop.
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If ClemSIN wins the title it should come.with an asterisk.
https://thespun.com/acc/clemson-tigers/analyst-names-clemsons-schedule-the-most-favorable-in-college-football
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The Big However Many cancels its OOC schedule. I'm guessing the whole season, for everyone, follows anon.
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I'm patiently waiting for the SEC'S announcements that they're doubling the amount of games their teams play and are adding an extra deck to each of its team's stadiums.
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Ivy League cancels all fall sports.
Usually I'd say something like, will anyone notice. But in this instance is it the first of many?
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Ivy League cancels all fall sports.
Usually I'd say something like, will anyone notice. But in this instance is it the first of many?
Patriot League follows.
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SEC rumored to be next and is reportedly considering flag football.
But they choose the flag.
*ducks*
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Been trying to log in the past several nights and it wouldn't let me in no matter what. Now tonight the large log in pops up and I'm easier than an The opponent
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Rose parade cancelled. Are games next?
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Been trying to log in the past several nights and it wouldn't let me in no matter what. Now tonight the large log in pops up and I'm easier than an The opponent
Still difficult, then?
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https://sports.yahoo.com/pac-12-student-athletes-reportedly-162200869.html
Transfer portal -------->
Thank you for your efforts, Mr Woods
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MACless.
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MACless.
With no non conference games against power teams and no tickets to be sold for any games what was its choice?
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Expect College Football to abandon all games very soon.
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Yep. I assume the NFL will take a little longer
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Power 5 about to pull the plug on season
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29629669/power-5-talking-no-fall-football (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29629669/power-5-talking-no-fall-football)
Commissioners of the Power 5 conferences held an emergency meeting on Sunday, as there is growing concern among college athletics officials that the upcoming football season and other fall sports can't be played because of the coronavirus pandemic, sources told ESPN.
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B1G takes the 10 count.
more like 14
votes 12-2 to cancel season
Rutgers-declared co-champ of 2020 season
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Iowa and Nebraska will reportedly play each other 10 times.
PAWCP reported to also cancel the season.
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Iowa and Nebraska will reportedly play each other 10 times.
PAWCP reported to also cancel the season.
boz congrats on the 2020 co-championship-great season for Spartans!
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Iowa and Nebraska will reportedly play each other 10 times.
PAWCP reported to also cancel the season.
boz congrats on the 2020 co-championship-great season for Spartans!
Missed out on the playoffs despite not losing a game! The system is broken!
Notably, the season ended with Meatchicken tied for last! Winning!
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there are reports that the B1G football is only mostly dead.
Miracle Max was recruited to bring the season back to life.
https://247sports.com/college/penn-state/Article/Big-Ten-refutes-report-of-canceled-football-season-college-COVID-19-pandemic-150086770/?fbclid=IwAR19xGGMWhPWWpIG6jBnnchnhzJ-kmeNMIrEe3Ar__Qdq-LqOIn_23g_Tp8 (https://247sports.com/college/penn-state/Article/Big-Ten-refutes-report-of-canceled-football-season-college-COVID-19-pandemic-150086770/?fbclid=IwAR19xGGMWhPWWpIG6jBnnchnhzJ-kmeNMIrEe3Ar__Qdq-LqOIn_23g_Tp8)
Despite the report, the Big Ten conference is reportedly refuting the report of a cancellation. According to Yahoo Sports’ Pete Thamel, the canceled talk is on hold at the moment.
Reports indicated that Big Ten presidents, “wanted to gauge,” if administrators of other conferences at the Power Five level — the ACC, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC — would do the same as them and lean towards, “pulling the plug,” on the season. Citing sources, ESPN said a, “vast majority,” of Big Ten presidents would vote to suspend the football season, potentially deferring for the spring. And on Monday morning, more interesting Big Ten information was released.
Miracle Max is pushing for a spring schedule.
President 3-putt, mark me down for a 4, wants the games to go on as scheduled.
On Monday, Trump tweeted: "The student-athletes have been working too hard for their season to be cancelled. #WeWantToPlay."
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On Monday, Trump tweeted: "The student-athletes have been working too hard for their season to be cancelled. #WeWantToPlay."
The season is officially fucked.
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On Monday, Trump tweeted: "The student-athletes have been working too hard for their season to be cancelled. #WeWantToPlay."
The season is officially fucked.
Welcome to March Madness2
B1G cancels fall football season and hopes to have a spring season.
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Iowa and Nebraska will reportedly play each other 10 times.
Heh. Family down in Lincoln report wailing and rending of garments. Nebraska has no major league teams or other sports franchises to speak of (well, there's a minor league Royals farm team, I guess, which used to be called the Royals, but then changed name to Storm Chasers for reason unclear to me), Big Red is pretty much the Big Thing. A lot of money flowed through Lincoln on home game weekends, so there are tremors of fear through many businesses.
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As a nation we have lost our balls.
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Cap if the cost of beating this disease, and saving tens of thousands of lives, and other related pain and suffering, (health and economic) is one lost football season, is that too high a price? Is that too much of a sacrifice to ask?
I really think if we had shut down in July and stayed shutdown for about 2 months there would have been a good chance kids all over the country preschool to college could have safely return to schools maybe by mid-late September, parents wouldn't have to make gut wrenching choices, and maybe we could start returning to some normalcy.
But we couldn't even do that.
We didn't lose our balls, we lost our fucking common sense.
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Ah, Capn' made the same post when football teams started wearing helmets.
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Ah, Capn' made the same post when football teams started wearing helmets.
😁😁
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Land Muffin confirms he is a major league asshole
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Lane Kiffin!!!!! Freaking word thingy
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WTF is a Land Muffin
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WTF is a Land Muffin
I propose we all adopt "Land Muffin" as Lane Kiffin's Elban name.
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WTF is a Land Muffin
I propose we all adopt "Land Muffin" as Lane Kiffin's Elban name.
😂😂
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I see the preseason AP poll is out. Looks like if they go unbeaten, The is a shoe in for the #2 seed, at worst.
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Cap if the cost of beating this disease, and saving tens of thousands of lives, and other related pain and suffering, (health and economic) is one lost football season, is that too high a price? Is that too much of a sacrifice to ask?
I really think if we had shut down in July and stayed shutdown for about 2 months there would have been a good chance kids all over the country preschool to college could have safely return to schools maybe by mid-late September, parents wouldn't have to make gut wrenching choices, and maybe we could start returning to some normalcy.
But we couldn't even do that.
We didn't lose our balls, we lost our fucking common sense.
It's a new age, and by some ways of thinking you're right Rich. If we're willing to change the paradigm of how the human race lives from now on you're right. Sports is history the way it was. Mankind is now going to drop, duck and cover anytime a new virus cuts loose. Social gatherings will be gone. Wearing masks will be permanent from this point on. And as science develops will we all become bubble people in the future. No contact whatsoever. Assuming Science, mankind's new religion, doesn't eliminate all virus anytime soon.
It's a flu bug. Flu kills people, that's nothing new. This one kills a lot more than the regular flu bug because we have no vaccine for it. This bug is no stronger than than any of the rest more or less. We just don't have a shot for it. Will we shut the country down every time a new strain of the flu comes along? The answer is probably yes. Is this the new future for mankind? Again probably yes.
Me personally, I'd rather take my chances and live the way I always have. But I have to think of the other chickenshits I know that. So I follow the rules and gripe about it. But I follow the rules, because law is ,"supposedly", what sets us above the animals.
Nobody was forced to get the flu shots before. Voluntary. Nobody was forced to wear masks in the beginning of this one. VOLUNTARY. The flu was a killer too of the old farts like you and I. Why is this flu somehow different? Where. how and when, did we cross over into the "new world". I dunno, but we're in it.
Bottomline freedom has always been an illusion. So i'm just bitchin because it hasn't been outlawed. Yet.
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WTF is a Land Muffin
I propose we all adopt "Land Muffin" as Lane Kiffin's Elban name.
Okay, sounds good. Can't have football. Might as well do this, beat picking your nose.
But not by much.
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It's a new age, and by some ways of thinking you're right Rich. If we're willing to change the paradigm of how the human race lives from now on you're right. Sports is history the way it was. Mankind is now going to drop, duck and cover anytime a new virus cuts loose. Social gatherings will be gone. Wearing masks will be permanent from this point on. And as science develops will we all become bubble people in the future. No contact whatsoever. Assuming Science, mankind's new religion, doesn't eliminate all virus anytime soon.
It's a flu bug. Flu kills people, that's nothing new. This one kills a lot more than the regular flu bug because we have no vaccine for it. This bug is no stronger than than any of the rest more or less. We just don't have a shot for it. Will we shut the country down every time a new strain of the flu comes along? The answer is probably yes. Is this the new future for mankind? Again probably yes.
No, we are not going to follow your first paragraph's prediction. We cannot even do that in the midst of the pandemic in full roar in some places. If it dies down, then a huge chunk of humanity will go back to its foolhardy ways.
And Cap, I like you, but stick to stuff you know something about.
This IS deadlier than the flu bugs we have going around, even if it is not deadlier than the 1918 flu. It is not a flu and if folks would stop saying it is, maybe the jackasses who keep having parties would stop.
The damage it does to people's organs that had no visible symptoms is unlike any flu we have seen and it does it to a substantial percentage of the folks who catch it.
Please read up.
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Cap if the cost of beating this disease, and saving tens of thousands of lives, and other related pain and suffering, (health and economic) is one lost football season, is that too high a price? Is that too much of a sacrifice to ask?
I really think if we had shut down in July and stayed shutdown for about 2 months there would have been a good chance kids all over the country preschool to college could have safely return to schools maybe by mid-late September, parents wouldn't have to make gut wrenching choices, and maybe we could start returning to some normalcy.
But we couldn't even do that.
We didn't lose our balls, we lost our fucking common sense.
It's a new age, and by some ways of thinking you're right Rich. If we're willing to change the paradigm of how the human race lives from now on you're right. Sports is history the way it was. Mankind is now going to drop, duck and cover anytime a new virus cuts loose. Social gatherings will be gone. Wearing masks will be permanent from this point on. And as science develops will we all become bubble people in the future. No contact whatsoever. Assuming Science, mankind's new religion, doesn't eliminate all virus anytime soon.
It's a flu bug. Flu kills people, that's nothing new. This one kills a lot more than the regular flu bug because we have no vaccine for it. This bug is no stronger than than any of the rest more or less. We just don't have a shot for it. Will we shut the country down every time a new strain of the flu comes along? The answer is probably yes. Is this the new future for mankind? Again probably yes.
Me personally, I'd rather take my chances and live the way I always have. But I have to think of the other chickenshits I know that. So I follow the rules and gripe about it. But I follow the rules, because law is ,"supposedly", what sets us above the animals.
Nobody was forced to get the flu shots before. Voluntary. Nobody was forced to wear masks in the beginning of this one. VOLUNTARY. The flu was a killer too of the old farts like you and I. Why is this flu somehow different? Where. how and when, did we cross over into the "new world". I dunno, but we're in it.
Bottomline freedom has always been an illusion. So i'm just bitchin because it hasn't been outlawed. Yet.
Cap-if you want real freedom then live on an island by yourself. But if not then you should recognie that society as we know mandates all sorts of laws and regulations to function. You might not like all of them all, but most of us obey them, and when we don't we pay the ticket.
I'm not going to argue about covid v the flu, or whether its just a nastier killer than the flu, I will argue that we should learn from observation, search out facts, beleive in science, and adapt our behavior in a common sense way. Its called learning. And everything we've learned of this disease from observation and science is that social distancing and masks seem to control te spread of the disease. We've seen that in areas and countries strict social distancing stopped the spread of the disease, but it came at a sacrifice.
But in the long-term what's worse, an economy hobbled for 2 months (the time for an effective quarantine to stop the disease),but the disease is controlled, or a half-assed patchwork of do what you want non-regulations that allowed this disease to control us for 6 months, kill 180,000 of us, cripple our healthcare systems in many parts of the country? And there is no end-point of certainty in sight. This motherfucker is voracious and is feeding on us.
And now with some of the effects of wide spread social distancing and mask-wearing finally taking place, BUT with the disease still spreading, we can't ask for college football to delay or postpone the season to save lives?
I hope all the kids that go back to school from pre-school to grad school, can do so safely as its the best learning environment, and solves a lot of problems for working, or hope to be working parents, and I look forward to stadiums full of fans, but to bitch about losing our balls, when we see 180,000 dead Americans and more in the future mostly because we did not use our common sense, seems really misplaced.
No one likes the steps needed to control this thing, or the sacrifices, but they seem so minimal, compared to other sacrifices others have made to protect us over our history, from colonial farmer-soldiers to current day ER nurese exposing themselves to death every day. Bitching about wearing a mask and being bored on a Fall Saturday afternoon seems so fucking selfish, it seems weird even to have to bring it up.
Stay well cap and wear your mask even if you, like me, hate the fucking thng, because I think you're smart ebnough to understand it saves lives.
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It's a new age, and by some ways of thinking you're right Rich. If we're willing to change the paradigm of how the human race lives from now on you're right. Sports is history the way it was. Mankind is now going to drop, duck and cover anytime a new virus cuts loose. Social gatherings will be gone. Wearing masks will be permanent from this point on. And as science develops will we all become bubble people in the future. No contact whatsoever. Assuming Science, mankind's new religion, doesn't eliminate all virus anytime soon.
It's a flu bug. Flu kills people, that's nothing new. This one kills a lot more than the regular flu bug because we have no vaccine for it. This bug is no stronger than than any of the rest more or less. We just don't have a shot for it. Will we shut the country down every time a new strain of the flu comes along? The answer is probably yes. Is this the new future for mankind? Again probably yes.
No, we are not going to follow your first paragraph's prediction. We cannot even do that in the midst of the pandemic in full roar in some places. If it dies down, then a huge chunk of humanity will go back to its foolhardy ways.
And Cap, I like you, but stick to stuff you know something about.
This IS deadlier than the flu bugs we have going around, even if it is not deadlier than the 1918 flu. It is not a flu and if folks would stop saying it is, maybe the jackasses who keep having parties would stop.
The damage it does to people's organs that had no visible symptoms is unlike any flu we have seen and it does it to a substantial percentage of the folks who catch it.
Please read up.
First off let me say I like you too. And I'm not saying I don't wear masks. In fact I started wearing them as soon as I was told it was mandatory. Didn't like it. Don't have to like it. But this bug is, yes, basically just like the bad strains of flu out there in terms of damage.
Flu damages too, that's no front page news.
But since you're into reading,
Both COVID-19 and flu can result in complications, including:
Pneumonia
Respiratory failure
Acute respiratory distress syndrome (i.e. fluid in lungs)
Sepsis
Cardiac injury (e.g. heart attacks and stroke)
Multiple-organ failure (respiratory failure, kidney failure, shock)
Worsening of chronic medical conditions (involving the lungs, heart, nervous system or diabetes)
Inflammation of the heart, brain or muscle tissues
Secondary bacterial infections (i.e. infections that occur in people who have already been infected with flu or COVID-19)
I may not me a world class scientist, but I do read. Flu often damages organs, always has.
This SARS based virus is nasty. Yes I once again say this. But my point was not which one was worse. It was has humanity turned a page marker in human socio-dynamics? The answer is a resounding yes. Is it right or wrong? That's for history to decide, not you or I. That was my point. I don't want to argue which one is worse. That's really pointless.
Many young people don't remember how bad viruses were 50 year ago. And of course they think they know everything and old farts like me are living in the past. And to a point I'm sure I am. Science progresses and we do better as time goes by sure thing. But be assured if everyone on the planet started wearing masks from day one it wouldn't have stopped this virus. Yes, I know you're going to say it would slow it down more. And maybe that's true. Maybe.
But mostly I was just grousing. I hope I haven't offended you as I said, I also like you.
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Cap if the cost of beating this disease, and saving tens of thousands of lives, and other related pain and suffering, (health and economic) is one lost football season, is that too high a price? Is that too much of a sacrifice to ask?
I really think if we had shut down in July and stayed shutdown for about 2 months there would have been a good chance kids all over the country preschool to college could have safely return to schools maybe by mid-late September, parents wouldn't have to make gut wrenching choices, and maybe we could start returning to some normalcy.
But we couldn't even do that.
We didn't lose our balls, we lost our fucking common sense.
It's a new age, and by some ways of thinking you're right Rich. If we're willing to change the paradigm of how the human race lives from now on you're right. Sports is history the way it was. Mankind is now going to drop, duck and cover anytime a new virus cuts loose. Social gatherings will be gone. Wearing masks will be permanent from this point on. And as science develops will we all become bubble people in the future. No contact whatsoever. Assuming Science, mankind's new religion, doesn't eliminate all virus anytime soon.
It's a flu bug. Flu kills people, that's nothing new. This one kills a lot more than the regular flu bug because we have no vaccine for it. This bug is no stronger than than any of the rest more or less. We just don't have a shot for it. Will we shut the country down every time a new strain of the flu comes along? The answer is probably yes. Is this the new future for mankind? Again probably yes.
Me personally, I'd rather take my chances and live the way I always have. But I have to think of the other chickenshits I know that. So I follow the rules and gripe about it. But I follow the rules, because law is ,"supposedly", what sets us above the animals.
Nobody was forced to get the flu shots before. Voluntary. Nobody was forced to wear masks in the beginning of this one. VOLUNTARY. The flu was a killer too of the old farts like you and I. Why is this flu somehow different? Where. how and when, did we cross over into the "new world". I dunno, but we're in it.
Bottomline freedom has always been an illusion. So i'm just bitchin because it hasn't been outlawed. Yet.
Cap-if you want real freedom then live on an island by yourself. But if not then you should recognie that society as we know mandates all sorts of laws and regulations to function. You might not like all of them all, but most of us obey them, and when we don't we pay the ticket.
I'm not going to argue about covid v the flu, or whether its just a nastier killer than the flu, I will argue that we should learn from observation, search out facts, beleive in science, and adapt our behavior in a common sense way. Its called learning. And everything we've learned of this disease from observation and science is that social distancing and masks seem to control te spread of the disease. We've seen that in areas and countries strict social distancing stopped the spread of the disease, but it came at a sacrifice.
But in the long-term what's worse, an economy hobbled for 2 months (the time for an effective quarantine to stop the disease),but the disease is controlled, or a half-assed patchwork of do what you want non-regulations that allowed this disease to control us for 6 months, kill 180,000 of us, cripple our healthcare systems in many parts of the country? And there is no end-point of certainty in sight. This motherfucker is voracious and is feeding on us.
And now with some of the effects of wide spread social distancing and mask-wearing finally taking place, BUT with the disease still spreading, we can't ask for college football to delay or postpone the season to save lives?
I hope all the kids that go back to school from pre-school to grad school, can do so safely as its the best learning environment, and solves a lot of problems for working, or hope to be working parents, and I look forward to stadiums full of fans, but to bitch about losing our balls, when we see 180,000 dead Americans and more in the future mostly because we did not use our common sense, seems really misplaced.
No one likes the steps needed to control this thing, or the sacrifices, but they seem so minimal, compared to other sacrifices others have made to protect us over our history, from colonial farmer-soldiers to current day ER nurese exposing themselves to death every day. Bitching about wearing a mask and being bored on a Fall Saturday afternoon seems so fucking selfish, it seems weird even to have to bring it up.
Stay well cap and wear your mask even if you, like me, hate the fucking thng, because I think you're smart ebnough to understand it saves lives.
Can't argue with much of what you said Rich. And any parts that I could just isn't worth hashing around.
Yes, I'm selfish, I admit. Weird, probably that too. Stay well yourself.
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LOL.
Nice to hear from you DJ. Most people here, with a couple of exceptions have decent hearts. My lawyer friend isn't too bright but he has a good heart.
I'm not sure the vaccine once produced will calm the situation down. Hopefully people will take it. Many will refuse for whatever reasons.
I for one will get it.
I don't like flu shots but I get them every year. I selfishly bitch about getting them too. I usually get a sore shoulder for days afterwards and a slight fever as I am told I am one of the people sensitive to it for some reason. But bitching is a good release valve.
Football is probably done as we know/knew it. But then so might be school, work, and just about everything else though. Times change. We deal with it in our own particular ways.
Take care.
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Cap if the cost of beating this disease, and saving tens of thousands of lives, and other related pain and suffering, (health and economic) is one lost football season, is that too high a price? Is that too much of a sacrifice to ask?
I really think if we had shut down in July and stayed shutdown for about 2 months there would have been a good chance kids all over the country preschool to college could have safely return to schools maybe by mid-late September, parents wouldn't have to make gut wrenching choices, and maybe we could start returning to some normalcy.
But we couldn't even do that.
We didn't lose our balls, we lost our fucking common sense.
It's a new age, and by some ways of thinking you're right Rich. If we're willing to change the paradigm of how the human race lives from now on you're right. Sports is history the way it was. Mankind is now going to drop, duck and cover anytime a new virus cuts loose. Social gatherings will be gone. Wearing masks will be permanent from this point on. And as science develops will we all become bubble people in the future. No contact whatsoever. Assuming Science, mankind's new religion, doesn't eliminate all virus anytime soon.
It's a flu bug. Flu kills people, that's nothing new. This one kills a lot more than the regular flu bug because we have no vaccine for it. This bug is no stronger than than any of the rest more or less. We just don't have a shot for it. Will we shut the country down every time a new strain of the flu comes along? The answer is probably yes. Is this the new future for mankind? Again probably yes.
Me personally, I'd rather take my chances and live the way I always have. But I have to think of the other chickenshits I know that. So I follow the rules and gripe about it. But I follow the rules, because law is ,"supposedly", what sets us above the animals.
Nobody was forced to get the flu shots before. Voluntary. Nobody was forced to wear masks in the beginning of this one. VOLUNTARY. The flu was a killer too of the old farts like you and I. Why is this flu somehow different? Where. how and when, did we cross over into the "new world". I dunno, but we're in it.
Bottomline freedom has always been an illusion. So i'm just bitchin because it hasn't been outlawed. Yet.
Cap-if you want real freedom then live on an island by yourself. But if not then you should recognie that society as we know mandates all sorts of laws and regulations to function. You might not like all of them all, but most of us obey them, and when we don't we pay the ticket.
I'm not going to argue about covid v the flu, or whether its just a nastier killer than the flu, I will argue that we should learn from observation, search out facts, beleive in science, and adapt our behavior in a common sense way. Its called learning. And everything we've learned of this disease from observation and science is that social distancing and masks seem to control te spread of the disease. We've seen that in areas and countries strict social distancing stopped the spread of the disease, but it came at a sacrifice.
But in the long-term what's worse, an economy hobbled for 2 months (the time for an effective quarantine to stop the disease),but the disease is controlled, or a half-assed patchwork of do what you want non-regulations that allowed this disease to control us for 6 months, kill 180,000 of us, cripple our healthcare systems in many parts of the country? And there is no end-point of certainty in sight. This motherfucker is voracious and is feeding on us.
And now with some of the effects of wide spread social distancing and mask-wearing finally taking place, BUT with the disease still spreading, we can't ask for college football to delay or postpone the season to save lives?
I hope all the kids that go back to school from pre-school to grad school, can do so safely as its the best learning environment, and solves a lot of problems for working, or hope to be working parents, and I look forward to stadiums full of fans, but to bitch about losing our balls, when we see 180,000 dead Americans and more in the future mostly because we did not use our common sense, seems really misplaced.
No one likes the steps needed to control this thing, or the sacrifices, but they seem so minimal, compared to other sacrifices others have made to protect us over our history, from colonial farmer-soldiers to current day ER nurese exposing themselves to death every day. Bitching about wearing a mask and being bored on a Fall Saturday afternoon seems so fucking selfish, it seems weird even to have to bring it up.
Stay well cap and wear your mask even if you, like me, hate the fucking thng, because I think you're smart ebnough to understand it saves lives.
Can't argue with much of what you said Rich. And any parts that I could just isn't worth hashing around.
Yes, I'm selfish, I admit. Weird, probably that too. Stay well yourself.
Let me know when the flu reaches a 3% fatality rate.
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Cap if the cost of beating this disease, and saving tens of thousands of lives, and other related pain and suffering, (health and economic) is one lost football season, is that too high a price? Is that too much of a sacrifice to ask?
I really think if we had shut down in July and stayed shutdown for about 2 months there would have been a good chance kids all over the country preschool to college could have safely return to schools maybe by mid-late September, parents wouldn't have to make gut wrenching choices, and maybe we could start returning to some normalcy.
But we couldn't even do that.
We didn't lose our balls, we lost our fucking common sense.
It's a new age, and by some ways of thinking you're right Rich. If we're willing to change the paradigm of how the human race lives from now on you're right. Sports is history the way it was. Mankind is now going to drop, duck and cover anytime a new virus cuts loose. Social gatherings will be gone. Wearing masks will be permanent from this point on. And as science develops will we all become bubble people in the future. No contact whatsoever. Assuming Science, mankind's new religion, doesn't eliminate all virus anytime soon.
It's a flu bug. Flu kills people, that's nothing new. This one kills a lot more than the regular flu bug because we have no vaccine for it. This bug is no stronger than than any of the rest more or less. We just don't have a shot for it. Will we shut the country down every time a new strain of the flu comes along? The answer is probably yes. Is this the new future for mankind? Again probably yes.
Me personally, I'd rather take my chances and live the way I always have. But I have to think of the other chickenshits I know that. So I follow the rules and gripe about it. But I follow the rules, because law is ,"supposedly", what sets us above the animals.
Nobody was forced to get the flu shots before. Voluntary. Nobody was forced to wear masks in the beginning of this one. VOLUNTARY. The flu was a killer too of the old farts like you and I. Why is this flu somehow different? Where. how and when, did we cross over into the "new world". I dunno, but we're in it.
Bottomline freedom has always been an illusion. So i'm just bitchin because it hasn't been outlawed. Yet.
Cap-if you want real freedom then live on an island by yourself. But if not then you should recognie that society as we know mandates all sorts of laws and regulations to function. You might not like all of them all, but most of us obey them, and when we don't we pay the ticket.
I'm not going to argue about covid v the flu, or whether its just a nastier killer than the flu, I will argue that we should learn from observation, search out facts, beleive in science, and adapt our behavior in a common sense way. Its called learning. And everything we've learned of this disease from observation and science is that social distancing and masks seem to control te spread of the disease. We've seen that in areas and countries strict social distancing stopped the spread of the disease, but it came at a sacrifice.
But in the long-term what's worse, an economy hobbled for 2 months (the time for an effective quarantine to stop the disease),but the disease is controlled, or a half-assed patchwork of do what you want non-regulations that allowed this disease to control us for 6 months, kill 180,000 of us, cripple our healthcare systems in many parts of the country? And there is no end-point of certainty in sight. This motherfucker is voracious and is feeding on us.
And now with some of the effects of wide spread social distancing and mask-wearing finally taking place, BUT with the disease still spreading, we can't ask for college football to delay or postpone the season to save lives?
I hope all the kids that go back to school from pre-school to grad school, can do so safely as its the best learning environment, and solves a lot of problems for working, or hope to be working parents, and I look forward to stadiums full of fans, but to bitch about losing our balls, when we see 180,000 dead Americans and more in the future mostly because we did not use our common sense, seems really misplaced.
No one likes the steps needed to control this thing, or the sacrifices, but they seem so minimal, compared to other sacrifices others have made to protect us over our history, from colonial farmer-soldiers to current day ER nurese exposing themselves to death every day. Bitching about wearing a mask and being bored on a Fall Saturday afternoon seems so fucking selfish, it seems weird even to have to bring it up.
Stay well cap and wear your mask even if you, like me, hate the fucking thng, because I think you're smart ebnough to understand it saves lives.
Can't argue with much of what you said Rich. And any parts that I could just isn't worth hashing around.
Yes, I'm selfish, I admit. Weird, probably that too. Stay well yourself.
Let me know when the flu reaches a 3% fatality rate.
Let me know what you think it would be for old people if there was no flu shot? Or anyone with compromised immune systems? This point seems to be lost on many people.
Like I said, people don't remember how bad the flu was 50 years ago. Or even 30 years ago. The history of virus vaccines specifically flu vaccines has been a rocky one to say the least. Science continues to improve them. But what do you think would be the death rate without it? An effective vaccine is going to be more important than all the masks in China. Ironically as the saying goes.
This is a good read if you want to understand the nature of vaccines and how far we've come from when I was a kid. This is where our future lies in fighting future outbreaks of rogue viruses. Much more than masks ever will.
https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Influenza/vaccine-history.aspx
(https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Influenza/vaccine-history.aspx)
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So let's live life like we did until a vaccine comes along?
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Who said that?
I said the existence of a flu vaccine skews the flu mortality rate. If we had a vaccine for WUHAN then it's numbers would most likely be more in line with flu numbers.
Sheesh.
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Fair enough. I'll consider that a retraction of your initial "as a nation we have lost our balls" post.
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Who said that?
I said the existence of a flu vaccine skews the flu mortality rate. If we had a vaccine for WUHAN then it's numbers would most likely be more in line with flu numbers.
Sheesh.
It is numbers?
It is not the same and there are a variety of reasons for that, but not on this forum.
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Fair enough. I'll consider that a retraction of your initial "as a nation we have lost our balls" post.
Nope. No retraction. The original ball post was to mean no sports. No "balls".
Get it?
After that everyone got all philosophical, so I obliged. Times change, but one thing is for sure this place never will.
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Who said that?
I said the existence of a flu vaccine skews the flu mortality rate. If we had a vaccine for WUHAN then it's numbers would most likely be more in line with flu numbers.
Sheesh.
It is numbers?
It is not the same and there are a variety of reasons for that, but not on this forum.
"It's" is your problem/hangup.
But yes it is the same. Most people don't take into account that the numbers are apples and oranges when one of the viruses doesn't have a vaccine. Thus my history of viruses link which some still didn't get why I linked it.
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Fair enough. I'll consider that a retraction of your initial "as a nation we have lost our balls" post.
Nope. No retraction. The original ball post was to mean no sports. No "balls".
Get it?
After that everyone got all philosophical, so I obliged. Times change, but one thing is for sure this place never will.
Oh.
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Fair enough. I'll consider that a retraction of your initial "as a nation we have lost our balls" post.
Nope. No retraction. The original ball post was to mean no sports. No "balls".
Get it?
After that everyone got all philosophical, so I obliged. Times change, but one thing is for sure this place never will.
Oh.
I'll consider that as a retraction of your retraction post.
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big10 talking about Thanksgiving start. Great The can have two turkeys
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big10 talking about Thanksgiving start. Great The can have two turkeys
Rutgers v. Maryland?
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Tie in the poll! Now a runoff...
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big10 talking about Thanksgiving start. Great The can have two turkeys
Rutgers v. Maryland?
LOL
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Tie in the poll! Now a runoff...
Ho many voted in the last one? Two?
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Tie in the poll! Now a runoff...
Ho many voted in the last one? Two?
millions-the fucking mail delivery is inexplicably slow this year
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Tie in the poll! Now a runoff...
Ho many voted in the last one? Two?
millions-the fucking mail delivery is inexplicably slow this year
I voted 1600 times and only two got through?
Friggin Trump's fault.
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Unofficial report says B1G has votes to start season in mid-October, play a championship game, and compete for national championship.
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How does this happen?
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How does this happen?
Common Sense
And a medical evaluation that recommends it
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How does this happen?
It would take nine votes from the U Presidents. From what. I have read those votes may not be there. They did not vote over the weekend, and instead one of the schools basically went on lock down.
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Yeah, Wisconsin. That was the basis of my question.
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Yeah, Wisconsin. That was the basis of my question.
Also Michigan State.
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Why don't the B1G schools just play a 2-football player per team cornhole tourney to settle B1G supremacy this year.
Maybe we can limit the sick and dead and Rutgers, Maryland and IU have a fucking chance at copping the crown,
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$$
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Do we have hospitalization and death numbers from any colleges yet?
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Kid-how many sick students, or sick parents, grand parents, teachers, janitors etc. would make you stop and think and perhaps apply the old saying, "an ounce of prevention" to a real life situation?
This disease could have been controlled with a little more leadership, truth, sacrifice and discipline, and a lot less politics.
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I have no problem having kids at colleges and dealing with the illness as it comes
Problems arise when schools do not hold students accountable for running way afoul of guidelines (read:. schools will not expel students because of monetary concerns).
No deterrent = no reason for kids to not have parties
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I have no problem having kids at colleges and dealing with the illness as it comes
Problems arise when schools do not hold students accountable for running way afoul of guidelines (read:. schools will not expel students because of monetary concerns).
No deterrent = no reason for kids to not have parties
I'm glad you have no problem with kids and presumably anyone else dealing wuth the disease at it comes up.
This is the same fucking short-sighted moronic thinking we had 6.5 million infected Americans, and 200,000 dead Americans ago, in February.
you don't learn do you?
even when you are told you were lied to.
you dumb fuck.
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Even if they don't play a game this season Maryland will still find a way to lose a few.
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Big Ten Football season to start October 24.
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Rose Bowl to severe ties with Big Whatever Oct. 25
USC football team just voted to switch conferences, joining B1G Oct 24.
Thank God the leaders of the B1G have finally prioritized once and for all, whether a university should stress academics or athletics.
Its cash.
As former Golden Gopher student-poet, Bob Dylan once noted, money don't talk, it swears.
Look out kid
you're gonna get hit
By losers, cheaters
and your fucking leaders
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This will not end well for the students, the athletes (including those who may be both) and the colleges and universities.
What do you see happening?
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$$$ over common sense. Cooler weather is coming soon
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Notes on BigTen scheduling from news reports.
The Big Ten will follow an "8+1" schedule, featuring eight regular-games followed by a ninth cross-divisional game for every team to be played the same weekend as the Big Ten Championship game.
The cross-divisional matchups will be decided based on each team's divisional standing at the end of the season.
As usual, the top team in the east will play the top team in the west for the championship, but this year all the other teams will be matched up, as well, with the second-place teams facing off, the third-place teams facing off, and so on.
Here's how the matchups would have played out if the conference followed this format last season.
Ohio State vs. Wisconsin
Penn State vs. Minnesota
Michigan vs. Iowa
Indiana vs. Illinois
Michigan State vs. Purdue
Maryland vs. Nebraska
Rutgers vs. Northwestern
The actual schedule of the 8 week regular season will be announced this week.
No tickets will be sold to the games.
But player families will be accommodated.
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This will not end well for the students, the athletes (including those who may be both) and the colleges and universities.
What do you see happening?
How many Americans have died from this Virus?
deej-spilled milk.
IMO the more appropriate question to be addressed is, how many more Americans are you willing to put at risk through infection, hospitaliation, and death and how much pain and suffering and disruption (economic, financial, social etc.) is tolerable, so you can watch college football for a couple of months in 2020?
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You see people dying due to BIG TEN football?
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You see people dying due to BIG TEN football?
You've drilled down to the heart of the matter.
Kid once again you have demonstrated your credentials as Elba's village idiot.
I see people get infected and dieing due to a lack of national leadership, an unfortunate and idiotic partisanization of common sense public health measures, and our inability to sacrifice for the common good.
But answer the question(s) that Deej and I asked or infered:
How many more Americans are you willing to put at risk through infection, hospitaliation, and death and how much pain and suffering and disruption (economic, financial, social etc.) is tolerable, so you can watch college football for a couple of months in 2020?
If you could save 50,000 lives would you?
How about 5,000 or 500?
What's an acceptable body count so you can watch Penn St v Rutgers this year?
How fucking stupid and selfish are you?
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How many more Americans are you willing to put at risk through infection, hospitaliation, and death and how much pain and suffering and disruption (economic, financial, social etc.) is tolerable, so you can watch college football for a couple of months in 2020?
If you could save 50,000 lives would you?
How about 5,000 or 500?
What's an acceptable body count so you can watch Penn St v Rutgers this year
By asking these questions you answer mine - and are truly a moron.
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Kid once again can't manage to address a question.
He's had that problem since 1st grade.
Let it be shown the answer to the question asked of kid of,
How fucking stupid and selfish are you?
Is VERY!
Kid-Science and the facts tell me that there are real risks associated with playing college football and mingling students from several colleges.
As we've seen in just the few weeks that schools have opened, Cv cases, are reigniting on campuses across the country.
College kids don't manage or assess risk real well.
But some of these risks could be mitigated with some sacrifice for a few months.
I've no idea how many athletes-students-teachers-parents-grandparents and all the other related people might get infected or might die.
500 5,000 or 50,000 more, I don't know.
But If we adopt the "herd mentality" (sic) that Trump seems to ascribe to, that might call for 200 million Americans getting infected.
If 1% of the infected die (versus about 3%) that would mean 2 million more dead americans.
But if the 3% is true, that's about 6 million dead americans.
Those are fucking Holocaust level maasacre #s.
Trump 6 million
Common sense and decency 0
so kid what's you're over under #?
when do you finally say, "that's too many dead Americans"?
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Thanks Deej- all good here, hope you and yours are safe and healthy.
I used the over under construct to put the discussion in lingua franca as I hoped kid might more easily grasp the concept of a public health crisis, common sense health and safety measures, risk assessment and hoped kid might be able to use the multi-factors to better be able to handicap the possibility and magnitude of looming illness and death, by having B1G play dates from New Jersey to Nebraska.
But then i remembered the years of kid's boasting of his handicapping prowess followed by his generally last place showing in various pick 'em pools, and came to the sad conclusion there is no common language suitable for use with that idiot.
To quote our presdient, "it is what it is".
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It now appears likely that the PAC12 will be joining the CFB playoff hunt.
Two reasons:
The pac-12 announced they will have rapid response testing on all campuses by the end of the month. ( the key development in the BigTen’s decision to return to play)
The Pac12’s other obstacle to playing is adhering to state and local guidelines. According to Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott, state restrictions are preventing play in California and Oregon, which host half of the pac-12's teams. Scott explained in part Wednesday morning:
“At this time, our universities in California and Oregon do not have approval from state or local public health officials to start contact practices We are hopeful that our new daily testing capability can help satisfy public health official approvals in California and Oregon to begin contact practice and competition.”
But,
California Governor Gavin Newsome says otherwise:
Nothing in the state guidelines denies the ability for the Pac-12 to resume. That’s been a misrepresentation of the facts.”
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Big Ten Schedule Key Games
TOSU @ Penn State October 31
MSU @ Michigan October 31
Wisc. @ Michigan November 14
Much.@ tOSU December 12
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Maryland never makes any listing of "key games."
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Maryland never makes any listing of "key games."
My choice of “ key games” was based on the preponderance of BigTen teams most often cited by posters here.
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PAC12 looking at 7 game regular season, Championship Game on December 18.
Meeting tonight at 8pm (Eastern)
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NCAA likely to throw out won/loss records for Bowl Games relying only on APR records.
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Further proof of the most corrupt sport in America is the horrific response by CFB to the coronavirus.
And half you fuckheads give money to these crooks!
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MidAm Football is coming back.
What MAC coach can be the next Nick Saban or Urban Meyer?
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Further proof of the most corrupt sport in America is the horrific response by CFB to the coronavirus.
And half you fuckheads give money to these crooks!
What virus?
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Should be some decent games to watch today.
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Kid once again can't manage to address a question.
He's had that problem since 1st grade.
Let it be shown the answer to the question asked of kid of,
How fucking stupid and selfish are you?
Is VERY!
Kid-Science and the facts tell me that there are real risks associated with playing college football and mingling students from several colleges.
As we've seen in just the few weeks that schools have opened, Cv cases, are reigniting on campuses across the country.
College kids don't manage or assess risk real well.
But some of these risks could be mitigated with some sacrifice for a few months.
I've no idea how many athletes-students-teachers-parents-grandparents and all the other related people might get infected or might die.
500 5,000 or 50,000 more, I don't know.
But If we adopt the "herd mentality" (sic) that Trump seems to ascribe to, that might call for 200 million Americans getting infected.
If 1% of the infected die (versus about 3%) that would mean 2 million more dead americans.
But if the 3% is true, that's about 6 million dead americans.
Those are fucking Holocaust level maasacre #s.
Trump 6 million
Common sense and decency 0
so kid what's you're over under #?
when do you finally say, "that's too many dead Americans"?
Very well said.
I'm still not sure of the percentage and really at this stage nobody could be sure.
But well said.
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Further proof of the most corrupt sport in America is the horrific response by CFB to the coronavirus.
And half you fuckheads give money to these crooks!
What virus?
The good thing about your posts, kid, is that all we have to do is think the opposite of what you say and we're instantly on the right side of an issue.
Fuck off, twit.
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All Conferences now BACK
And the first big weekend of the season starts off with third ranked Oklahoma blowing a 14 point lead in the 4th quarter And losing to unranked Kansas State.
More upsets to come?
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I'm not sure if LSU's defense is really that bad or if Rick Leach's Bulldogs are that good.
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Does college football have a tuck rule?
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LSU just can't seem to defend that underneath crossing pattern. It's killing them.
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Bayou Bengals QB has been indecisive all day long.
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On to the Bama game.
Waddle is the next star in line. Kid can fly and he just did.
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
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KJ Costello, the new king of post-graduate transfers, embarrassed defending NC LSU throwing for 623 yards. No SEC quarterback has ever done that.
And it was IN FREAKING BATON ROUGE!
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Easy there Skippy, you'll get some on you.
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
What are the stats on the Covid spread?
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
What are the stats on the Covid spread?
How many people died from tuberculosis last year?
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SC vs the Gators. Okay, sounds good
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
What are the stats on the Covid spread?
How many people died from tuberculosis last year?
How many brain cells do you have left, dipshit?
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TCU hooked the Horns!
Don’t expect anything normal in college football.
It’s 2020!
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
What are the stats on the Covid spread?
How many people died from tuberculosis last year?
How many brain cells do you have left, dipshit?
Go fuck yourself. :-)
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TCU hooked the Horns!
Don’t expect anything normal in college football.
It’s 2020!
Great game. Fumble at the end. Yes 2020 will be full of surprises.
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Bama seems to be back to form.
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TCU hooked the Horns!
Don’t expect anything normal in college football.
It’s 2020!
Great game. Fumble at the end. Yes 2020 will be full of surprises.
What are you talking about? The season hasn't started yet. Three weeks from today.
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
What are the stats on the Covid spread?
How many people died from tuberculosis last year?
Roughly 500 a year die from tb. Why do you ask?
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
What are the stats on the Covid spread?
How many people died from tuberculosis last year?
How many brain cells do you have left, dipshit?
Go fuck yourself. :-)
Learn that from your dad?
Oh, sorry. Forgot that you never knew him.
Well, at least your mom was like a dad to you, right?
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With Mike Leach one week your are sipping the wine
Next week you are stomping the grapes.
( apologies to John Cooper)
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Off topic, I know, but,
(CNN)Swiss Skydiver won the 145th running of the Preakness Stakes in Baltimore, Maryland, on Saturday, according to the race organization's official Twitter.
Was nobody at CNN WATCHING what millions of us saw live?
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Shout out to Matt Campbell and Iowa State and its big win against Oklahoma.
Look at those Big 12 standings!
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2020 Marches on!
Tulsa!
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The Big Flexible and Undetermined Amount has three teams in the top 7 of the new ESPN Top 25. So the league has been really impressive so far.
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Wow!
Jimbo Fisher sure loves to play Florida.
7-1 record at Florida State
1-0 at Texas A&M after today’s walkoff win.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSSports/status/1315011059862908929?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
(https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSSports/status/1315011059862908929?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
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The Sec and Big 12 circular firing squads are giving the B1G a shot at two playoff teams.
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Can't wait to hear the official remarks after the Auburn game. Looked like a backwards pass to me. Replay ref has to have an explanation on this one. I'd love to hear it.
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
What are the stats on the Covid spread?
How many people died from tuberculosis last year?
How many brain cells do you have left, dipshit?
Go fuck yourself. :-)
Learn that from your dad?
Oh, sorry. Forgot that you never knew him.
Well, at least your mom was like a dad to you, right?
You're the same old asshole Hammy no matter what name you throw up.
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TCU hooked the Horns!
Don’t expect anything normal in college football.
It’s 2020!
Great game. Fumble at the end. Yes 2020 will be full of surprises.
What are you talking about? The season hasn't started yet. Three weeks from today.
Yeah I hear one of the lesser conferences is planning on playing. The more the merrier.
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Bama's OL looking especially good so far. And as stated Waddle is amazing.
Longhorns win in OT.
What are the stats on the Covid spread?
How many people died from tuberculosis last year?
Roughly 500 a year die from tb. Why do you ask?
Just wondering. And how many humans die from it every year. Roughly.
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Bama's defense getting shredded.
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Kiffen's got em confused big time.
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Welcome to the new SEC
Formerly known as the MidAm
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Can we finally put to rest the canard that defense wins anything?
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TCU hooked the Horns!
Don’t expect anything normal in college football.
It’s 2020!
Great game. Fumble at the end. Yes 2020 will be full of surprises.
What are you talking about? The season hasn't started yet. Three weeks from today.
Yeah I hear one of the lesser conferences is planning on playing. The more the merrier.
Yeah, the MAC is back in business.
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Can we finally put to rest the canard that defense wins anything?
No.
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TCU hooked the Horns!
Don’t expect anything normal in college football.
It’s 2020!
Great game. Fumble at the end. Yes 2020 will be full of surprises.
What are you talking about? The season hasn't started yet. Three weeks from today.
Yeah I hear one of the lesser conferences is planning on playing. The more the merrier.
Yeah, the MAC is back in business.
Well as you know, there are cupcakes and there are cupcakes.
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Kiffen exposed several warts on Bama's defense.
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Well, since the CFB season starts on Saturday, time to roll out my traditional Top 11. It is based off the version I wrote back in August, before conferences started pulling the plug on games and the season. The only real change is downgrading Oklahoma and Texas, both of which I had in the Top 10, and moving PSU out. I was highly skeptical of LSU even before the early season struggles. Anyway.
Highly thought of teams I am do not highly think of and why:
the Pennsylvania State University - Can the PSU replace the as the Big However Many’s top dog? I have my doubts. The Big Red Dog of a QB is a game manager who voids mistakes rather than a top level quarterback, the O Line has potential but gave up an awful lot of sacks and most of PSU’s offense came in three games against putrid defenses. Defensively, they struggled against the pass, despite an elite rush, and their best player is sitting out. They could wind up a Top 10 team, but I think they are a cut below the, and with only playing eight games that leaves them a cut below the top 10.
the Louisiana State University – That is a lot of talent to lose. A. Lot. It may take them some time to gel, and it would not surprise me to see them struggle early in the year. I do not know if they will ever get it entirely together, offensively or defensively.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie – What, are they being highly ranked again? They are in an actual conference, playing actual teams for a change. The South Atlantic League is mushy but there are a couple of teams I think have more talent than they do.
Auburn – Bo Nix.
Meatchicken – Because hate.
Pure Prairie League – I think they are out, especially at this point. Okie State may still sneak in, but they have not been impressive overall, and I think both Texas and Oklahoma will beat them. Which leaves the Conference with a bunch of two loss teams.
11. USC
SOMEONE is winning the PAWCP. I got two choices. One of these days USC will live up to my expectations, even if I think they made a mistake in keeping Helton. It is almost like they chose to keep him one more year to see if some former coach might get bored with being a studio host for Fox, or something. I like Slovis, and while I do not now who will get the nod at RB they have a lot of good options. They have some excellent receiving talent, including a guy named Amon-Ra and another named Bru which is something that appeals to me. Worry about the defense, though. It has issues in 2019 and they have a new D Coordinator, which could make the lack of early season games problematic. They actually benefit from the reduced schedule quite a bit – they had a game against Alabama cancelled.
10. Wisconsin.
SOMEONE is winning the West and losing to the in the Big However Many championship game. Why not them?
9. Oregon
SOMEONE is winning the PAWCP. I got two choices. Sure, they underachieved last year with Herbert at the QB, and there is a chance offensively they will slide into the Shough of Despond, but they have at least one stud on the O Line and some excellent skill players around the new QB. Most of their very good defense returns – I am loving the name Kayvon Thibodeaux. Their schedule does not have any real stud games – like USC, they had a game against a Top 5 team COVID out on them. I can see them unbeaten going into the PAWCP championship game against USC. Or losing twice if the offense does not click.
8. Georgia
I like their defense, as always, and they will have a running game. Their quarterback, Stetson Bennet IV, sounds like an attorney for a quarterback, not an actual quarterback. He has White, Cook, and Pickens around him, although the O Line needs to regroup, fast. Most of the Defensive talent returns from a top flight defense. If the offense can catch up to that defense, just a little, they could be special. The only problem: they have already lost to Alabama once, which leaves them zero room for error – and leaves them in the unenviable position of needing to beat Alabama in the God’s Conference Championship game to avoid a second loss. It is not Smart to bet on any Saban assistant beating him. Not Smart at all.
7. Florida
I guess Trask is the top returning QB in God’s Conference. That loss to TAMU will gut them, though. The Gator offense will be better than it has in past years. They need to beat Georgia, but even if they do that one loss means they will have to beat Alabama to make the playoffs.
6. Miami
They cannot stay on the same field as ClemSIN, but then, who in the South Atlantic League can? The senior transfer QB helps, but they still have an iffy run game, with a questionable offensive line. Schedule-wise, they still have some technically ranked team to play in front of them, but I think those teams being ranked are as much a function of them actually playing than their talent.
5. Texas A&M
I write these backwards, so here is where it starts to get sketchy. I have no real feeling about what team is going to wind up, functionally, fourth when the season is over. Some of the teams I had considered here, back before COVID upended everything, now have two, or will eventually have two, losses – Oklahoma, Texas, Georgia, Florida. Given that, my best guess is one of the teams that doesn’t play in the conference championship game – TAMU, Penn State – sneaks in, unless a PAWCP team runs the table. So, while I am not huge on them – hate their QB – TAMU is my placeholder.
4. Alabama
They are not #1 because unlike the two teams ahead of them they are replacing their quarterback. That is pretty much it. Jones will be good enough to lead them to a great season, but I do not know if he can elevate their season. They have the receiving group and running game to make a good quarterback great, but there will come a time in the season where they will need Jones to be the man. Defensively, they have pro level talent everywhere and while it may take some time for it all to jell – the lack of the opening game cupcake buffet could lead to some rough early games – but I think the God’s Conference West may be a little down this year – LSU lost a LOT and it would not surprise me to see them struggle early, Auburn has Bo Nix as a quarterback, the egregious Mike Leach has opted to coach in the only place arguably more God-forsaken than Pullman Washington and I expect him to sink that program, Arkansas and Missississippi remain, respectively Arkansas and Missississippi, so their biggest games are TAMU and Georgia in their first four games. TAMU is merely solid, with an iffy quarterback, and Georgia is good, and should be able to stay with Bama for a half, but after that…. Pencil them into the playoffs.
3. the ©
The Big However Many East is loaded, though the draws a weak cross conference schedule and are fortunate that the trip to PSU is likely to be in front of a sub-Maryland level of attendees, if any one. They have to replace Chase Young on defense, and both corners went in the first round of the NFL draft, but, with apologies to certain God’s Conference teams, the has been CB U for quite a few years now, and while Young’s disruption was unique, the Defensive line has experienced, talented players all across it. The loss I am most worried about, for the, is Dobbins the free elf. Master Teague has a great name but lacks vision, and he was hurt in the spring. They may wind up with Trey Sermon as the lead back. I think Dobbins was underappreciated last year – they were an open wheel rout to him away from plying LSU in the championship game last year. The biggest thing in the’s favor is the returning Quarterback, which is always a plus unless your quarterback is Bo Nix. They also return their best wideout in Olave and a lot of talented kids to work in. I like their chances to run the table in the Big However Many.
2. ClemSIN
They have the best returning talent, including the best quarterback in the country and odds on Heisman favorite (non-MSU Division) in Trevor Lawrence. They also got a break when the underrated Etienne returned. They do have to replace most of the O line, and the loss of Justyn Ross and Tee Higgins is an issue, but SWINEy has been paying, elite highschoolers a lot of money to come to Clemson recruiting a lot of high caliber talent, and with the best QB prospect since Baker Mayfield Andrew Luck throwing to them, the new guys should fit in well. Defenisvely, they lost Isaiah Simmons and 3/4 of their Defensive Backs, but they have probably the best Defensive Coordinator in the country, and as noted earlier, the paid recruits are there. The South Atlantic League is improving, but it is still from 2 through 14 (temporarily 15) behind God’s Conference and the Big Whatever among the major conferences – I expect the typical early season Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie hype, and the typical running headlong into the reality that they have been a first rate second tier program for a while - so ClemSIN should breeze.
1. Eventual 2020-202 National Champion Michigan State University
I have no idea what to expect from Coach Tucker’s first year. I don’t even know who our Quarterback will be, and as a result cannot tell you who the Eventual 2020 Heisman Trophy Winner will be. I am leaning to Theo Day, though Peyton Thorne has some appeal, if only from a name standpoint. If it is Lombardi I may self harm. There is a lot of experience on the O Line – because everyone was hurt at one time or another over the last couple of years, we have 10 OL who have started a game – which I guess is good in a “maybe they can use the experience to improve” sort of way. We do get what I presume is the last of the Allen brothers back. Cool. Elijah Collins is the top returning back, which has me all meh, and we are replacing our top three receivers which normally would be bad but in this case is likely an improvement. The offense has been moribund in the late Dantonio years. Maybe the fresh coaching can bring it back to life.
Defensively, I am concerned about the talent depth in the backfield. The Bangstick is back as a coach – hopefully he can rebuild the no fly zone, although it may take some recruiting cycles to get there. The Linebackers, led by Antjuan Simmons, and the D line, not led by Jacub Panasiuk, should be strong, even with few returning starters. Overall, realistically, 4 or 5 wins (and the plus one) would be a decent year, although there are only two games where I can say with certainty we should win. When have I ever been realistic? What the fuck is the fun in that? Unbeaten and into the CFB playoffs! Woooooo!
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U of Michigan students got stay-at-home orders today. Athletes can come and go as they please.
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U of Michigan students got stay-at-home orders today. Athletes can come and go as they please.
They should be fine with all that personal protective equipment.
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Its heartening to see Professor Wagstaff's theory on college sports and higher education is finally being acted on, even if it took almost 90 years.
Wagstaff: And I say to you gentlemen, this college is a failure. The trouble is, we're neglecting football for education.
Both professors: Exactly. The professor is right.
Wagstaff: Oh, I'm right am I? Well, I'm not right. I'm wrong. I just said that to test you. Now I know where I'm at. I'm dealing with a couple of snakes. What I meant to say was that there's too much football and not enough education.
Both professors: That's what I think.
Wagstaff: Oh, you do, do you? Well you're wrong again! If there was a snake here, I'd apologize. Where would this college be without football? Have we got a stadium?
Professor One: Yes.
Wagstaff: Have we got a college?
Professor One: Yes.
Wagstaff: Well, we can't support both. Tomorrow we start tearing down the college.
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U of Michigan students got stay-at-home orders today. Athletes can come and go as they please.
Any further details on this?
At one school I know they are allowing just the mens and womens basketball team on campus - to prep for their seasons. And as some type of test for the rest of the student population returning. 3 x per week testing - as is common in schools with students already on campus - is included.
Is this preferential treatment for athletes that should be scoffed at?
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I don't think athletes coming and going as they please is something I'm scoffing at, rather it's something illustrative of the entire situation. I feel terrible for my daughter who should be having the time of her life at one of the best colleges in the country. But everyone's suffering.
Here's the stay-in-place order:
https://www.washtenaw.org/DocumentCenter/View/18386/Order---Stay-in-place-Order---Final-Oct-20
(https://www.washtenaw.org/DocumentCenter/View/18386/Order---Stay-in-place-Order---Final-Oct-20)
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I don't get it Yank. What is your daughter unable to do under these restrictions, other than congregating on the green and eating in the cafeteria?
Doesn't seem so bad for 2 weeks.
Are you getting any type rebate?
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No rebate has been offered by Michigan. Actually, given her major, my daughter's probably better off than most students. She can work, she has clinicals.
I think the very essence of college is being able to essentially do what you want and be surrounded by as many (or few) people as you choose to. Sporting events, parties, hanging out in large groups, irresponsibility (within reason) all parts of the college experience that seem circumscribed by this.
It's certainly not the college experience her siblings had.
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I don't think athletes coming and going as they please is something I'm scoffing at, rather it's something illustrative of the entire situation. I feel terrible for my daughter who should be having the time of her life at one of the best colleges in the country.
When did she transfer?
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I don't think athletes coming and going as they please is something I'm scoffing at, rather it's something illustrative of the entire situation. I feel terrible for my daughter who should be having the time of her life at one of the best colleges in the country.
When did she transfer?
And I'm sure her response would have been something along the lines of "I'm shocked he could read your posts."
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It's certainly not the college experience her siblings had.
Shouldn't you/she be more of a team player combating COVID?
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It's certainly not the college experience her siblings had.
Shouldn't you/she be more of a team player combating COVID?
I'll wager she is doing more to combat it than you ever will. And wishing she had a typical college experience is not antithetical to doing her part.
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It's certainly not the college experience her siblings had.
Shouldn't you/she be more of a team player combating COVID?
That kind of question suggests that somebody in this conversation did not have a college experience at all.
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Sorry, I have a no whining policy re: COVID-19.
All in it together, even the collegians.
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Sorry, I have a no whining policy re: COVID-19.
All in it together, even the collegians.
My daughter hasn't "whined" once. And considering her studies and job puts her in daily contact with people suffering from Covid, I think that's pretty admirable.
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Sorry, I have a no whining policy re: COVID-19.
All in it together, even the collegians.
Kid you've been an early and strong voice re covid.
Unfortunately, you thought it a political hoax, nothing to be concerned about, and could not muster the courage nor had the common sense to admit to wearing a mask, for fear of showing some less than pure partisan politcal purpose.
A decent person might show some empathy, for students cheated out of the typical college experience, or parents concerned about their kids, but you just mock.
You're just a stupid asshole troll.
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It's certainly not the college experience her siblings had.
Shouldn't you/she be more of a team player combating COVID?
That kind of question suggests that somebody in this conversation did not have a college experience at all.
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yank, I will say that your daughter is certainly having a different college experience than her siblings, but in the long run, it may turn out to be a far better experience for her and for others.
Best of luck to her!
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yank, I will say that your daughter is certainly having a different college experience than her siblings, but in the long run, it may turn out to be a far better experience for her and for others.
Best of luck to her!
Thanks....
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Unfortunately, you thought it a political hoax
SHADDAP, DIK
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Unfortunately, you thought it a political hoax
SHADDAP, DIK
Go finger-fuck yourself you dickless troll
and wear a mask.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51PGtrZfUdL._AC_UL1000_.jpg)
The Guiliani model seems about right for you
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Misrepresenting others, then lashing out childlessly.
Rock on with it, Bank.
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Misrepresenting others, then lashing out childlessly.
Rock on with it, Bank.
You didn't like the Guilani mask?
I thought it captured the "inner kid", the soul of a ghoulish troll, with just the right amount of seasonality.
October trick or treat.
LMAO
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Boy I am glad the CFB season is finally starting so we can begin talking real football before this forum devolves into the type of permanent flame war that makes the baseball fora so unreadable.
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Boy I am glad the CFB season is finally starting so we can begin talking real football before this forum devolves into the type of permanent flame war that makes the baseball fora so unreadable.
Covid-FootBall
Should be a thrill.
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Speaking of the Big 10....Michigan State is already down two touchdowns to.........Rutgers.
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And now?
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7 turnovers
hooooooot
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Fuck Rutgers
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Speaking of the Big 10....Michigan State is already down two touchdowns to.........Rutgers.
I think we wound up with a - 153 turnover margin. Bring back Johnelle Smith!
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Thank God for the short season.
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IU has a wide receiver named Whop Philyor and that makes me very, very happy.
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Wrong call the ball clearly hit the ground before it hit the pylon.
But such a great effort by that kid I'm not going to bitch about it.
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Wrong call the ball clearly hit the ground before it hit the pylon.
But such a great effort by that kid I'm not going to bitch about it.
Obviously the ball broke the plane.
That was a given.
How James Franklin gave that game away in the fourth quarter is the question of the century.
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Wrong call the ball clearly hit the ground before it hit the pylon.
But such a great effort by that kid I'm not going to bitch about it too much.
fify. That was a play that stands as called, however the call went.
The Mel Tucker era has nowhere to go but up.
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How about them Hoosiers!
They've suffered so many miserable close game late losses, they were due one
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You really have to put an effort in to lose to Indiania😁
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LOL Bo, you are absolutely right. The pylon IS THE PLANE of the end zone. How does the ball touch the ground (OUT OF BOUNDS) and then hit the pylon only the replay moron knows. Replay is good for the game and bad call get made.
But it shouldn't have been that close to begin with. Penn State played like shit and they lost. Good for the Indiana players.
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LOL Bo, you are absolutely right. The pylon IS THE PLANE of the end zone. How does the ball touch the ground (OUT OF BOUNDS) and then hit the pylon only the replay moron knows. Replay is good for the game and bad call get made.
But it shouldn't have been that close to begin with. Penn State played like shit and they lost. Good for the Indiana players.
I agree it was a bad call. The ball did indeed hit the ground before the pylon
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https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/10/indiana-stuns-penn-state-in-overtime-with-spectacular-diving-2-point-conversion
knees off ground, ball on goal line
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LOL Bo, you are absolutely right. The pylon IS THE PLANE of the end zone. How does the ball touch the ground (OUT OF BOUNDS) and then hit the pylon only the replay moron knows. Replay is good for the game and bad call get made.
But it shouldn't have been that close to begin with. Penn State played like shit and they lost. Good for the Indiana players.
Nose of the ball crossed the plane before the ass of the ball touched out of bounds.
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LOL Bo, you are absolutely right. The pylon IS THE PLANE of the end zone. How does the ball touch the ground (OUT OF BOUNDS) and then hit the pylon only the replay moron knows. Replay is good for the game and bad call get made.
But it shouldn't have been that close to begin with. Penn State played like shit and they lost. Good for the Indiana players.
Nose of the ball crossed the plane before the ass of the ball touched out of bounds.
LOL
So you’re claiming the ball actually crossed the goal line in bounds, came backwards as to avoid clipping the corner of the pylon before hitting the flat face of the pylon despite all momentum traveling the opposite direction. Yea no.
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LOL Bo, you are absolutely right. The pylon IS THE PLANE of the end zone. How does the ball touch the ground (OUT OF BOUNDS) and then hit the pylon only the replay moron knows. Replay is good for the game and bad call get made.
But it shouldn't have been that close to begin with. Penn State played like shit and they lost. Good for the Indiana players.
Nose of the ball crossed the plane before the ass of the ball touched out of bounds.
LOL
So you’re claiming the ball actually crossed the goal line in bounds, came backwards as to avoid clipping the corner of the pylon before hitting the flat face of the pylon despite all momentum traveling the opposite direction. Yea no.
No. You are ignoring the sideways momentum.
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LOL Bo, you are absolutely right. The pylon IS THE PLANE of the end zone. How does the ball touch the ground (OUT OF BOUNDS) and then hit the pylon only the replay moron knows. Replay is good for the game and bad call get made.
But it shouldn't have been that close to begin with. Penn State played like shit and they lost. Good for the Indiana players.
Nose of the ball crossed the plane before the ass of the ball touched out of bounds.
LOL
So you’re claiming the ball actually crossed the goal line in bounds, came backwards as to avoid clipping the corner of the pylon before hitting the flat face of the pylon despite all momentum traveling the opposite direction. Yea no.
No. You are ignoring the sideways momentum.
Sideways momentum?
Making stuff up? Sideways is not backwards. You can't change the laws of physics just because you thought up a goofy term. LOL
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Replay showed the nose of the ball over the goal line. Argue all the "physics" you want, Captain Dunning-Kreuger, the officials, who unlike you had no skin in the issue, looked at those replays and upheld the call. Because that is what the replays showed.
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Replay showed the nose of the ball over the goal line. Argue all the "physics" you want, Captain Dunning-Kreuger, the officials, who unlike you had no skin in the issue, looked at those replays and upheld the call. Because that is what the replays showed.
It showed no such thing. I don't "need" to argue physics. Physics speaks for itself. It isn't courtroom hocus pocus bait and switch.
They upheld the call because they "apparently" couldn't be sure. That's their excuse and they are sticking to it. A convenient out that the replay rules supply for them.
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Replay showed the nose of the ball over the goal line. Argue all the "physics" you want, Captain Dunning-Kreuger, the officials, who unlike you had no skin in the issue, looked at those replays and upheld the call. Because that is what the replays showed.
It showed no such thing. I don't "need" to argue physics. Physics speaks for itself. It isn't courtroom hocus pocus bait and switch.
They upheld the call because they "apparently" couldn't be sure. That's their excuse and they are sticking to it. A convenient out that the replay rules supply for them.
So... the refs who unlike you are independent, not partisan and rigorously trained in the use and interpretation of video replays, deliberately decided to award the game to IU because... reasons!
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You're not as stupid as you look.
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Looking for normalcy, or some semblance of the old normal.
Eventual 2020-21 National Champion Michigan State 27, Meatchicken 21
We cannot possibly turn the ball over 7 times again. Can we?* I had Minnesota on my “over rated based on last year and it is not last year anymore” list, so the Meat’s domination of them was not a total surprise. I though Lombardi played reasonably well, though I still expect the Day to come, and soon, when he is replaced. It is really hard to get a handle on how good (or bad) MSU is because the turnovers hide offensive function and give the defense short fields to defend. We outgained Rutgers, for whatever that is worth. (I also did not see the game) By now, you guys should know that I am taking Michigan State in this game if we were running out an 8th grade flag football team.
the 35, the Pennsylvania State University 13
The PSU game, on the other hand, I did see. Granted, PSU dominated the stat line against IU, but they still did not play that well. I don’t think the IUD is impenetrable, and PSU’s failure to penetrate it makes my less than confident about their ability to score much against the. I just see too much of their offense as serviceable. As for the, I do worry that they lack the type of stellar running back that has powered all of their best teams. Teague just doesn’t have the vision to be that guy. Still, I think they have a big talent edge, on both sides of the ball.
Hard to believe this is the only game between ranked opponents this week. I am not sure that there are even any interesting games, or even close ones, so most of the games are chalk here.
Texas 27, Oklahoma State 26
Probably the second best game of the day. OSU has a pretty good defense, but I am disappointed in their offense. Texas is not that good; I felt they had some good things ahead with Hermann, but that is not the way it is panning out. I expect the Pure Prairie League to wind up a morass of two and three loss teams.
Indiana 23, Rutgers 7
Congratulations Rutgers on your first Big However Many win in three year. But MSU is not going to com fumbling through that door.
ClemSIN 55, Boston College 10
I have seen nothing of BC that makes me think that they can stand up against ClemSIN much beyond the opening kickoff. Maybe ClemSIN takes its foot off the gas late, but I don’t think so. Unlesss of course Lawrence tests positive for.COVID, in which case ClemSIN might only win by 20.
Oklahoma 24, Texas Tech 17
I suppose if there is a top 25 upset on the board, this would be it. Oklahoma has been way on the underside of whelming this year, and I think their being ranked at this point is more muscle memory than anything else.
Kansas State 17, West Virginia 16
Oddly, I have seen a bit of Morgantown School of Applied Technology this year. And while I tend to use Pure Prairie League games as background for naps anyway, they have been an unexciting team. Not that KSU is eye popping. This whole league is mediocre.
Memphis 35, Cincinnati 30
Luke Fickell will regret not taking that MSU job. Maybe not today but someday, soon, and for the rest of his life. I’ll go with Memphis’s offensive power over the lightly tested Cinci D.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 37, Georgia Tech 13
I don’t think OLotPT is all that good, but they are better than Georgia Tech.
Georgia 27, Kentucky 14
Again, a crappy slate of games. I am not impressed with Georgia offensively to date.
Wisconsin COVID-19, Nebraska 0
Boy, Nebraska keeps screaming about the effect COVID has had on their season, don’t they. They should consider themselves lucky for not playing Wisky.
PAWCP comes back next week, praise be.
* Yes. Yes we can.
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Lawrence out for at least one week with a positive COVOD test.
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Fuck that - TWO weeks!
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Good grief! Do I have to explain again that the Zoom lense on these TV cameras distort the depth
perception so much that you have no idea where the tip of the football (hidden by the rest of the ball) was before the ball hit the ground and pylon!
IMHO, the replay official upheld the call because he could not with any certainty say the tip of the ball did not touch the plane (I disagree with the rule as written and the fact that the runner lost control of the ball, in my thinking, would result in a fumble out of bounds, but that's another battle). If the official on the field had ruled no conversion, the replay official would have gone along with that call (although, being on the Hoosier home turf....)
the official was in the right position and place to make a good call, his depth perception was not distorted by his eyeballs zooming in, the runner was a good distance from the sideline so this official looked to be locked in on the extended ball which the runner was stretching out two strides away.....therefore, I would say the call was most likely correct and the ruling on the field was correctly upheld.
If another video surfaces with a better look.....
I also think the Lion defender could have taken a better angle to the ball carrier and knock the ball into the empty cheap seats.
Harry pointed all that out and in a lot fewer words.
What was the most significant part of the play was Michael Penix, a left handed QB, switching the ball to his right hand before diving for the goal line. The only chance he had to score
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Fuck that - TWO weeks!
My bad - Notre Dame game next Saturday. I'd expect Trevor to be in there. But Clemson talks a good game re: safety, dont they?
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There should not be an issue with ClemSIN's backup stepping up this week at least. Unless you are your sports section's proof reader.
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On one hand, Maryland - Minnesota is a surprisingly good game. On the other hand I am watching CFB on a Friday night. Fucking COVID.
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Replay showed the nose of the ball over the goal line. Argue all the "physics" you want, Captain Dunning-Kreuger, the officials, who unlike you had no skin in the issue, looked at those replays and upheld the call. Because that is what the replays showed.
It showed no such thing. I don't "need" to argue physics. Physics speaks for itself. It isn't courtroom hocus pocus bait and switch.
They upheld the call because they "apparently" couldn't be sure. That's their excuse and they are sticking to it. A convenient out that the replay rules supply for them.
So... the refs who unlike you are independent, not partisan and rigorously trained in the use and interpretation of video replays, deliberately decided to award the game to IU because... reasons!
I told you in the post you just quoted. Easy fella, don't have a cow.
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Good grief! Do I have to explain again that the Zoom lense on these TV cameras distort the depth
perception so much that you have no idea where the tip of the football (hidden by the rest of the ball) was before the ball hit the ground and pylon!
IMHO, the replay official upheld the call because he could not with any certainty say the tip of the ball did not touch the plane (I disagree with the rule as written and the fact that the runner lost control of the ball, in my thinking, would result in a fumble out of bounds, but that's another battle). If the official on the field had ruled no conversion, the replay official would have gone along with that call (although, being on the Hoosier home turf....)
the official was in the right position and place to make a good call, his depth perception was not distorted by his eyeballs zooming in, the runner was a good distance from the sideline so this official looked to be locked in on the extended ball which the runner was stretching out two strides away.....therefore, I would say the call was most likely correct and the ruling on the field was correctly upheld.
If another video surfaces with a better look.....
I also think the Lion defender could have taken a better angle to the ball carrier and knock the ball into the empty cheap seats.
A very well reasoned and explained post Deej. I disagree that it was the correct call but then, two things, first one would expect me to disagree being a Lion fan, two you and I can disagree without it escalating into a shouting match.
Happy viewing. :)
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Fuck that - TWO weeks!
In NYS it would be two weeks.
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Crap the website ate my report.
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Condensed version.
Bama 41, Miss St 20
Bama's secondary is not quite there yet. But they won't need to be. The Bama offense is stacked. The Tide has one of the best OL's in the nation and I'm especially impressed with their Center.
Florida 30, Mizzou 27
Mizzou's offense isn't that good. LSU's defense is THAT bad. But then the Gators defense isn't all that nifty either.
Texas A&M 35, Ark 20
Jimbo has got the third best team in the ACC. Probably be the best team in the Big 10.
Michigan 31 Michigan State 27,
It will be a battle as usual. I like the young Wolverine QB. We'll see how he handles the hype.
OSU 31, the Penn State 27
The Lions QB looked like schlit last week. The Buckeyed QB looked good. Still it'll be close I think.
Texas 29, Oklahoma State 31
I can't figure out the Horns and I usually get the call wrong with these guys. Good news for Horns fans.
Indiana 23, Rutgers 27
Don't blame everything in the Spartans ineptness(although that had a lot to do with it). And don't give the Hoosiers more credit than the Lions ineptness had to do with it. Either way one of these teams will be 2-0 and make the Big 10's conference ratings "look" better than they are.
Clemson 51, Boston College 17
Well, .... uhhhh, ....yeah.
Oklahoma 37, Texas Tech 20
Oklahoma will do what they do. Offense them into submission.
Kansas State 27, West Virginia 24
K'State, a meat and potatoes team in a 5 Star dining league.
Memphis 3o, Cincinnati 32
Luke Fickell is a very underrated head coach. I think a big time team comes calling on him soon.
Notre Dame 37, Georgia Tech 24
Actually ND is pretty good.
Georgia 33, Kentucky 17
A team that Georgia can beat up on and I'm sure they will.
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Jesus jbot.
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Congratulations to YankGuy!
What are you going to do if Maryland really gets good?
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Crap the website ate my report.
How convenient.
Covered up your pick of Minnesota. lol
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Congratulations to YankGuy!
What are you going to do if Maryland really gets good?
Thanks. It will definitely take away some schtick. But I'm not too concerned.
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Stupid taunting penalty costs the Spartans.
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Crap the website ate my report.
How convenient.
Covered up your pick of Minnesota. lol
For the record i forgot about yankguy's Maryland connection or i would have included it. And taken Minnesota. Like everyone.
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Stupid taunting penalty costs the Spartans.
We keep doing that kind of stupid shit, across coaching staffs, for years. It must be in our DNA.
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Much is forgiven.
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Time to say "Hi" to all my UM fan friends and relatives on Facebook.
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Amazing things happen when you do not turn the ball over 7 times.
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Nice win by Silo Tech.
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Taunt away. No fucks given today.
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Crap the website ate my report.
How convenient.
Covered up your pick of Minnesota.. lol
Actually I just cut and pasted Stevo's picks Old Skip. And added some SEC games he left off.
But yeah, I probably would have taken the Go-4s.
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Bulldog's defense is playing big boy defense so far.
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Oh and congrats Steve. I watched most of the game. Switching here and there from time to time. #4 for Michigan was overmatched. I'm surprised they didn't throw even more passes his way.
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I am not sure what is more surreal - the empty Big Outhouse or all those seats for a white out.
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Crap the website ate my report.
How convenient.
Covered up your pick of Minnesota.. lol
Actually I just cut and pasted Stevo's picks Old Skip. And added some SEC games he left off.
But yeah, I probably would have taken the Go-4s.
I mean, it is a strange taunt coming from a guy who never picks games in the first place.
I do not share the low opinion of the Big Whatever mouthed - if that is the verb I am after - by some here, and it is only two games in, but based on yesterday's games, it is pretty clear that it would take a cataclysmic event for anyone to beat the in the Big Whatever. Or Alabama in God's Conference. I also think that ClemSIN will get in the playoff even if they lose to Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie - which I don't.expect them to do. The offense eventually looked pretty great even with the world's worst set of Scrabble tiles at QB instead of Pretty Boy Lawrence.
Franklin gets paid the big bucks to make tough decisions and take the big chances, but I cannot imagine that I would risk giving that offense a short field in the first quarter. Especially calling a screen to get the yards.
With Okie State getting the first of its two losses minimum the Pure Prairie League is out of the Championship chase.
Cannot wait for the PAWCP to start. But what is with the 9 am start times? I realize that the rest of the country having issues with late kickoffs, but there has to be a better solution then that.
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Crap the website ate my report.
How convenient.
Covered up your pick of Minnesota.. lol
Actually I just cut and pasted Stevo's picks Old Skip. And added some SEC games he left off.
But yeah, I probably would have taken the Go-4s.
I mean, it is a strange taunt coming from a guy who never picks games in the first place.
I do not share the low opinion of the Big Whatever mouthed - if that is the verb I am after - by some here, and it is only two games in, but based on yesterday's games, it is pretty clear that it would take a cataclysmic event for anyone to beat the in the Big Whatever. Or Alabama in God's Conference. I also think that ClemSIN will get in the playoff even if they lose to Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie - which I don't.expect them to do. The offense eventually looked pretty great even with the world's worst set of Scrabble tiles at QB instead of Pretty Boy Lawrence.
Franklin gets paid the big bucks to make tough decisions and take the big chances, but I cannot imagine that I would risk giving that offense a short field in the first quarter. Especially calling a screen to get the yards.
With Okie State getting the first of its two losses minimum the Pure Prairie League is out of the Championship chase.
Cannot wait for the PAWCP to start. But what is with the 9 am start times? I realize that the rest of the country having issues with late kickoffs, but there has to be a better solution then that.
I know Lawrence was out. But hey, he doesn't play on the defense.
Speaking of defense, I wish we had one.
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Crap the website ate my report.
How convenient.
Covered up your pick of Minnesota.. lol
Actually I just cut and pasted Stevo's picks Old Skip. And added some SEC games he left off.
But yeah, I probably would have taken the Go-4s.
I mean, it is a strange taunt coming from a guy who never picks games in the first place.
I do not share the low opinion of the Big Whatever mouthed - if that is the verb I am after - by some here, and it is only two games in, but based on yesterday's games, it is pretty clear that it would take a cataclysmic event for anyone to beat the in the Big Whatever. Or Alabama in God's Conference. I also think that ClemSIN will get in the playoff even if they lose to Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie - which I don't.expect them to do. The offense eventually looked pretty great even with the world's worst set of Scrabble tiles at QB instead of Pretty Boy Lawrence.
Franklin gets paid the big bucks to make tough decisions and take the big chances, but I cannot imagine that I would risk giving that offense a short field in the first quarter. Especially calling a screen to get the yards.
With Okie State getting the first of its two losses minimum the Pure Prairie League is out of the Championship chase.
Cannot wait for the PAWCP to start. But what is with the 9 am start times? I realize that the rest of the country having issues with late kickoffs, but there has to be a better solution then that.
I know Lawrence was out. But hey, he doesn't play on the defense.
Speaking of defense, I wish we had one.
If it is any consolation, at.least 8 other teams will have.the same wish this year. 38 points is on the low side for the.
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Re: PAC12 noon start times:
The 9 am Pac12 Start time ( Nov 7 ASU @USC is the first one) comes at a very opportune time for the league.
Fans can’t attend the games live because of COVID-19 and interest in the league should be higher since the Big12 relevance in the CFP is waning.
Fox has already in the past few years moved many of its marquee games in the BIG to noon and seen ratings gains.
The Pac12 also has 8 Friday night games on its schedule.
In reality the PAC12 stands to pick up viewers in the east with noon starts and relatively little to lose by trying it.
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EVENTUAL 2020-21 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 24, Iowa 17
True interesting fact: Michigan State is undefeated when turning the ball over 6 times or fewer! Iowa is now winless, which is not at all where I expected them to be. Lombardi is looking like he is determined to win me over. Last week was full of bad passes and perfectly placed ones. Some consistency would be nice. It would also be nice if Ricky White is the real deal – he sure looked it Saturday, but that was one game where he was working on island coverage without a lot of safety help. It would also be nice if we could run the rock. Simmons looks good, but tentative, Collins is no where to be found, and Heyward… welcome back from the transfer portal! We did a pretty good job defensively against Meatchicken – and not as bad against Rutgers as the score made it look – and Iowa’s offense has been mediocre. I am enthused.
Florida 17, Georgia 13
One of the two the non-MSU marquee games of the week. Georgia’s offense has been missing in action all year. Hard to imagine it turning up this weekend. Hard also to imagine Georgia’s defense not taking Florida to trask, but unless the Law Firm of Stetson Bennett LLP dramatically improves, Georgia team is going nowhere. Not sure how replaceable the two suspended for a half Gators will be, but I still think Florid has the defensive moxie to bottle up the weak Georgia offense.
ClemSIN 35, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 20
After giving up 21 points to BC’s offense in the first half Saturday ClemSIN’s defense throttled the life out of them in the second half. I expect the second half is what we see this week. OLotPT has not really shown me the kind of sustained quality offense necessary to stay with ClemSIN’s offense, or enough defense to make me think they can contain ClemSIN’s offense. The World’s Worst Draw of Scrabble Tiles looks like, well, like I am going to have to learn to spell his name next year. Etienne continues to be the most underappreciated great player in CFB. As an aside, does anyone know of the whereabouts of jbott? I really want to get back to making anti-ClemSIN jokes again.
the 52, Rutgers 10
There is a scene at the end of A Fish Called Wanda where Otto (Kevin Kline) has his feet stuck in cement unable to move while watching as Kkkkken (Michael Palin) slowly drives up to (and over) him in a steam roller. I imagine that is roughly how Greg Schiano feels this week. Rutgers is winless when its defense forces 6 turnovers or fewer. I expect that stat to be a valid one at year’s end as well.
Meatchicken 27, Indiana 20
On one hand, MSU showed opposing teams the crucial weaknesses in Meatchicken’s offense and defense. On the other, MSU also showed Meatchicken’s coaches the same weaknesses, and I do not know if IU’s offense can exploit Meatchicken’s island corners the way MSU did – or that Meatchicken will be using the safeties as run support again. I do think IU has a stout enough defense to take away the run option from Milton and make him play quarterback and to limit Meatchicken’s rather pedestrian receivers. IU is being talked about on the fringes of the playoffs. That is nice for them.
University of California* 35, Arizona State 27
Welcome back PAWCP! I get that the 9 start time makes business sense; I am just not sure that it makes sense for the pregame preparation for the kids who actually play the game. Anyway, I have high expectations for trojanhorse’s boys this year. So, stumbling out of the gate against a pretty good Sun Devils team is practically guaranteed. Sorry, troj.
* Southern
S 35, Y 31
The Battle of the BU’s!
the Pennsylvania State University 28, Maryland 17
It looks like Maryland has an offense, with Mini-Tua at the helm. On the other hand, Minnesota’s defense has had issues in both of the games they have played, so we will see. I think the PSU put up a good effort against the last week – there is just a huge talent gap between the and the rest of the Big However Many. PSU is the best winless team in CFB. I think they can contain Maryland.
Oregon 27, Stanford 21
Oregon breaks in a new QB – their old one is in the process of proving me wrong about him in the NFL, but he was a decidedly flawed college QB – and Stanford is trying to rebound from a down year. Really, I have no sense of the PAWCP until I see them play a few games, so I am just going with my feeling that Oregon will avoid the Shough of Despond. Because the world does not get enough bad John Bunyan jokes and I am the remedy!
Texas A&M 35, South Carolina 17
Don’t sleep on TAMU as the fourth playoff team, especially if the PAWCP forms the traditional circular firing squad. Their schedule going forward is manageable. One loss, with Alabama as your only loss? Granted, this year’s version of God’s Conference West is not like the last few years’s, but they still have the reputation and running the non-Alabama portion of that table is impressive. Looks good when compared to a lot of two loss teams from the Pure Prairie League, or God’s Conference East – particularly if it is Florida, who they beat - or whatever comes out of the COVID raddled clusterfuck of a Big However Many West. I suppose Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie could muck it up by beating a Lawrenceless ClemSIN. Anyway, I still don’t like their quarterback, but they are perfectly placed in this mess of a year.
Cincinnati 41, Houston 17
Then again, could this be the year a Group of Five team gets in? Cinci has the ranking to demand serious consideration in the event there is a butt load of two loss Power Five conference champions. Cinci made a pretty persuasive case last week.
Oklahoma State 27, Kansas State 17
I guess OSU has national relevance until they pick up a second loss. It could happen this week, but I am thinking their reckoning comes a bit later.
Wisconsin 0, Purdue 0
The Big However Many has a COVID protocol the includes cardiac testing and takes 21 days. Not only is Wisky not playing Purdue, they ain't playing Meatchicken in two weeks either. As a dedicated fan of chaos, I have to wonder what will happen in Wisky goes 5 - 0 and goes up against, say a 7 - 1 team that they beat. Technically, a half game behind, right? Or a 6 - 1 Nebraska, who Wisky would have a presumably higher ranking?
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Ok. I guess I figured out my issue. Hopefully I don't have more problems...
I have been pretty unmotivated when it comes to football and USC in general over the last 8 months or so. But I have to admit, I am getting a little excited about watching the team again.
First take: 9 am is flipping ridiculous and Larry Scott should absolutely be fired for trying one desperation move after another. That said, if you are going to do it...this is the year. Since there are no fans anyway, you are not interfering with tailgates and arrivals etc.
I am actually somewhat looking forward to watching gameday and immediately going to our game. SO ok...
I have USC 31 ASU 24
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I am enthused.
It is such a fine line between "enthused" and "euthanized."
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Missed making picks today. First time I can remember doing that. Been working all day putting a half million dollar tank orifice in. Can't mess that puppy up as it is a 3 month lead time to get a new one. Platinum is expensive. LOL
Can't believe the Spartans got beat that bad on what I thought was a good defense.
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Just caught the really nice pass and catch for the Trojans.
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Didn't take Georgia long. LOL
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Florida wupped em though. Good enjoyable game.
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Missed making picks today. First time I can remember doing that. Been working all day putting a half million dollar tank orifice in. Can't mess that puppy up as it is a 3 month lead time to get a new one. Platinum is expensive. LOL
Can't believe the Spartans got beat that bad on what I thought was a good defense.
We remain unbeaten when the turnover margin is less than 3.
Hey! Meatchicken lost! Woo!
Brought to you by an MSU alumni. And in this case the S stands for Schadenfreude. It is all I have left.
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Jesus cap. We both suck.
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Enjoyed the Clemson-ND game. First time in a while I actually watched a full hour or more from college ranks. ND tight end was sensational.
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Notre Dame played a good game, but I was surprised to see the clock mismanagement from the Clemson coaching staff at the end of regulation. That game should have been over after Clemson went up with 2 minutes left.
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Cheer cheer for you know who!
Uiagalelei was dazzling but the Irish went by the Book
Jim Harbaugh has increased his leadership in the list of Most Fired Head Coaches
Meanwhile disgraced and fired Ole Miss Coach Hugh Freeze is 7-0 at Liberty after beating VaTech
in a bizarre ending yesterday in Blacksburg. The game, 35-all with just seconds left, had Liberty lining up for a 59 yard field and then https://youtu.be/MP5g8l-Sa1U (https://youtu.be/MP5g8l-Sa1U)
USC ahead a great finish to beat ASU in the first ever 9am (PST) start time in PAC history.
TV ratings to come to see if 9am games will be tried again.
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heh
Thanks for that link
Good to see a coach get fucked by the inanity of calling timeouts on FG attempts
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Jim Harbaugh has increased his leadership in the list of Most Fired Head Coaches
Paul Finebaum thinks Meatchicken should hire Luke Fickel. I think it is the wrong year for a program to incur both a huge buyout and the massive salary to lure a prestige hire. Even if the buyout $ comes from boosters.
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Jesus cap. We both suck.
Well our ability to play sucky defense is only exceeded by our ability to commit turnovers.
That about sum it up?
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Jim Harbaugh has increased his leadership in the list of Most Fired Head Coaches
Paul Finebaum thinks Meatchicken should hire Luke Fickel. I think it is the wrong year for a program to incur both a huge buyout and the massive salary to lure a prestige hire. Even if the buyout $ comes from boosters.
Finebaum is a freakin genius.
Saying that has absolutely nothing to do with my saying that Fickell would be hired by a big time school soon.
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Maryland's hiring of Locksley was a masterstroke.
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Jesus cap. We both suck.
Well our ability to play sucky defense is only exceeded by our ability to commit turnovers.
That about sum it up?
For both.
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Maryland's hiring of Locksley was a masterstroke.
Getting that QB to transfer from Bama helped loads too.
Wait...didn't someone here pan the hiring of Locksley?
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Who could that have been?
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Who could that have been?
Someone who is a firm believer in reverse motor. Like with the Trump pick.
I was thinking about using reverse mojo next week and take IU over my beloved Spartans but I think that is not so much reverse mojo as sanity.
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On Michigan football....thoughts by former coach
https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Michigan-Wolverines-admission-policy-Rich-Rodriguez-defends-Jim-Harbaugh-154245969/?fbclid=IwAR3sT4oovgRIWn8JskoUvV9OMQQ5exNCOSO0ckFKiEqBp29UdeG-SjmsDAk
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On Michigan football....thoughts by former coach
https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Michigan-Wolverines-admission-policy-Rich-Rodriguez-defends-Jim-Harbaugh-154245969/?fbclid=IwAR3sT4oovgRIWn8JskoUvV9OMQQ5exNCOSO0ckFKiEqBp29UdeG-SjmsDAk
Typical Rodriquez bullshit.
Rodriguez has the lowest winning percentage (.405) of any coach in Michigan football's history. He also went 0–3 against Ohio State and 0–3 against Michigan State. Not to mention 0-1 against TOLEDO in the Big House.
His Michigan teams couldn’t play defense and, except when Denard Robinson came along, his lackluster spread offense was a bust.
His coaching style was dehumanizing to the players and, worst of all, he was a cheater.
His own Michigan players blew the whistle on his illegal tactics before he coached one game in Ann Arbor.
Michigan, in effect, pled guilty, self imposed sanctions, and took NCAA probation.
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Personally I miss RichRod.
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EVENTUAL
2020-212021-22 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 28, Indiana 18
Even I do not believe this, but as long as there is a ship I intend to go down with it.
the 42, Maryland 24
A suddenly interesting game. It seems like the loses a bit of intensity when out to a big lead. I think the Turtles scored a nice coup in getting baby Tua. I have seen nothing from Maryland defensively that indicates to me that they can stop Fields and company. Maryland is still the same team that got dusted by Northwestern. Yankguy’s boys still have Rutgers and Meatchicken is on the schedule, plus maybe one other game they should probably win… can’t think who that might be, but I am sure it is there… so a 5-3 record before the plus 1 is a real likelihood.Cancelled due to COVID on Maryland.
Wisconsin 0, Meatchicken 0
I do not think this game is going to be played. If it is, I will update. For now, let me just note that I do not think the talk of Harbaugh being ousted has any validity at this point. I think the budget for the Athletic Department is taking a huge, huge hit, and this is a bad time to be searching for a high priced head coach. As for the game, if played, Wisky has not been on the field for three weeks. They haven’t even been practicing in a real sense. As bad as Meatchicken has been this year, I think they would win this one.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 27, Boston College 10
Well, I did not expect the offense I saw last week. I till think they are a mirage until proven otherwise, but BC had its one great half of football for the year.
Alabama 49, the Louisiana State University 10
I know the LSU lost a ton of talent last year, and I expected a drop, but not this steep of one. Ogeron would be on the “would be most fired but for COVID list” with Harbaugh were it not for the fact that you simply cannot fire a coach one year after a championship unless they do something like black up and spout the n word while naked in the company of three men none of whom are his wife. Game has been cancelled. Lucky break for the LSU.
the Pennsylvania State University 27, Nebraska 21
You know, thirty years ago or so this would have been a great bowl game. Nebraska has not been nationally relevant in over a decade, though, and Penn State has been beatable this year. the Pennsylvania State has been the most disappointing team for me, personally, even though I thought that they were overrated at the start of the season. Turn overs + Bad Defense = loss. Where else would that equation be relevant….
University of California* 38, Arizona 27
Again, a game I am not sure will be played. Tucson is a COVID hot spot. I know it is one game, but USC’s defense does not look good. Still like their offensive weapons and Scottsdale’s Own looks like he has both talent and moxie.
*Southern
Cincinnati 35, East Carolina 17
OLotPT beating ClemSIN probably keeps any Gang of Six team out of the playoffs this year, unless OLotPT or ClemSIN gets a second loss this year. Too bad, really. I don’t think Cinci would have much of chance against Alabama as a 4 seed, but it would be nice to see them try.
Coastal Carolina 35, Troy 17
Troy – the traditional cupcake of top ranked teams. My parents live about three miles on the seaward side of CCU for years. That is all I got. I have seen a few CCU games this year, on the WWLiS, but only until I remind myself I am watching Coastal Carolina play football which means my life clearly sucks.
Not that you have seen it, but my repeated and inexplicable difficulties in being able to spell/type “myself” means I am required to post this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wj5VODa-eTY
Texas A&M 42, Tennessee 17
Somewhere along the line, UT is going to regret the decision to not hire Schiano. Oh wait… that day may be here.This game has also been postponed.
Florida 27, Arkansas 17
Two pieces of relevant information: 1. Arkansas has played three ranked teams this year and lost to all three (while winning all of their games against non-ranked teams) 2. Florida is ranked. I am aware that there is a very good argument that this is at the very least three facts.
Oregon 27, Washington State 17
The game is at Pullman, which remains the single most God Forsaken Outpost on the Power Five map. Anyway, Oregon did not have much trouble with Stanford. I expect WSU to take it up the wazzu. As the saying goes.
Georgia 17, Missouri 6
I was surprised by what Florida did to Georgia’s defense. I do not expect a repeat performance. This is starting to look like a great weekend for yardwork.
Miami 37, Virginia Tech 31
I wasn’t going to pic on this having no real thoughts, but with all the cancellations, I need something.
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Enjoyed the Clemson-ND game. First time in a while I actually watched a full hour or more from college ranks. ND tight end was sensational.
Best of all was the virus spreaders crashing the field and demonstrating the limits of their education at one of the most overrated colleges in the history of the United States.
Assholes.
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Enjoyed the Clemson-ND game. First time in a while I actually watched a full hour or more from college ranks. ND tight end was sensational.
Best of all was the virus spreaders crashing the field and demonstrating the limits of their education at one of the most overrated colleges in the history of the United States.
Hey, you are stealing my shtick!
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COVID-19 hits 8 Maryland players
Ohio State Game this Saturday called off Won’t be rescheduled.
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I imagine Wisconsin-Michigan is on thin ice as well.
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I imagine Wisconsin-Michigan is on thin ice as well.
fucking global warming!
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Ivy league cancels all winter sports. Once again common sense prevails over idiocy
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Ivy league cancels all winter sports. Once again common sense prevails over idiocy
Actually common sense is quite uncommon.
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I imagine Wisconsin-Michigan is on thin ice as well.
fucking global warming!
😁
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Yay!! Forum is back
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Yay!! Forum is back
Thanks for the alert. And yes, since about 5:15am EST. Did you get a note from me?
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Yay!! Forum is back
Thanks for the alert. And yes, since about 5:15am EST. Did you get a note from me?
I did get the email and it even went to the newer one and not the one I originally used years ago!
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Don't know about you cap but I am in favor of just pretending the 2020 season never happened. Well, except for the Meatchicken game.
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Don't know about you cap but I am in favor of just pretending the 2020 season never happened. Well, except for the Meatchicken game.
It can get worse.
And I’m sure you know what that implies
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Don't know about you cap but I am in favor of just pretending the 2020* season never happened. Well, except for the Meatchicken game.
*FTFY
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Don't know about you cap but I am in favor of just pretending the 2020 season never happened. Well, except for the Meatchicken game.
It can get worse.
And I’m sure you know what that implies
Actually I do not.
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Well, my weekend just got better.
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How has Tulane managed to get ten games in through all this
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Voodoo
One place in The US that I absolutely avoid.
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The targeting rule is just so much bullshit. Fuck this game, it's not football anymore. I'm done.
I'm never going to watch another friggin game.
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The targeting rule is just so much bullshit. Fuck this game, it's not football anymore. I'm done.
I'm never going to watch another friggin game.
0-5 does have a tendency to speed up an exit strategy.
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Good or bad, the rule's been the rule for awhile now.
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Good or bad, the rule's been the rule for awhile now.
True, but cap remains a huge fan of CTE.
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Dabo becomes a bigger asshole with each passing day
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We made them punt! Woo!
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Schiano has Rutgers back to embarrassing
3-15 on 3rd down 1-4 on 4th including 2 x early from their own territory
Disgusting
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Pac 12 circular firing squad continues to operate at peak efficiency. Washington goes down to Stanford. Oregon beat by Cal
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Michigan cancels game with ZeroStATE.
Pussies.
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Michigan cancels game with ZeroStATE.
Pussies.
l
Big Ten will find a way to get OSU to the B1G and CFB. Too costly not to.
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Why are they cancelling the game? It's a bunch of cripples which is THE's usual fare
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Why are they cancelling the game? It's a bunch of cripples which is THE's usual fare
Because Meatchicken is a bunch of pussies who know they will get their asses kicked into oblivion and are just quitting to avoid the humiliation just like Herbstreit sais they would.
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BigTen to remove 6 game minimum for its Championship game.
Will vote today.
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Ray Perkins is dead.
ps://www.al.com/sec/2020/12/former-alabama-coach-ray-perkins-passes-away-at-home.html (http://ps://www.al.com/sec/2020/12/former-alabama-coach-ray-perkins-passes-away-at-home.html)
NY Giants fans not in mourning.
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Damn right Deej!
I see Purdue and IU game has spilled out of the old oaken bucket.
Maybe the B1G, rather than bending over for the the ghost of Woody, and changing the rules to suit the Buckeyes interests, they could schedule tOSU to visit Bloomington.
They'll get their 6 that way.
And how the fuck is IU ranked just 12?
HARUMPH!
How many top 25 teams do they have to spank before they some respect?
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Ray Perkins is dead.
ps://www.al.com/sec/2020/12/former-alabama-coach-ray-perkins-passes-away-at-home.html (http://ps://www.al.com/sec/2020/12/former-alabama-coach-ray-perkins-passes-away-at-home.html)
NY Giants fans not in mourning.
Actually, Perkins came in with George Young, hired Bill Parcells as an assistant and was Phil Simms' first coach. He wasn't a particularly successful coach, though they did make the playoffs once with him (breaking a long drought), but he was there at the beginning of a lot of good things. I think he can maybe be looked as a parallel to Buck Showalter with the Yankees.
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Red StainWart is absolutely opposed to rule changing, so it stands to reason that JumboNut is all in
for making changes at this late date.
IMO, ZeroStATE did not follow the League's rules and therefore is not eligible for the Big Whatever
title game. Indiana will represent the Legendary East Division just fine.
(And it will be the only time this century they are likely to have that opportunity)
Go Hoosiers!
How did the not "follow the league rules?" It is not like they were deliberately canceling games. They did nothing wrong. I suspect that the head to head win over IU, plus the fact that had they played Saturday they would be in the Championship game win or lose had a big role in the decision. I would support the decision for.almost any of the Big However Many under similar circumstances. Except Meatchicken. Fuck those cowards.
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Red StainWart is absolutely opposed to rule changing, so it stands to reason that JumboNut is all in
for making changes at this late date.
IMO, ZeroStATE did not follow the League's rules and therefore is not eligible for the Big Whatever
title game. Indiana will represent the Legendary East Division just fine.
(And it will be the only time this century they are likely to have that opportunity)
Go Hoosiers!
How did the not "follow the league rules?" It is not like they were deliberately canceling games. They did nothing wrong. I suspect that the head to head win over IU, plus the fact that had they played Saturday they would be in the Championship game win or lose had a big role in the decision.
Exactly.
What is also obvious is tOSU is not a lock for the CFP even with the Big Ten Championship Title.
Those three lost games, most notably the arch rival game, leaves its SOS at a disadvantage if Florida upsets Alabama and Clemson beats Norte Dame.
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So the big10 changed the rules for one school? Huh.....talk about entitlement
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Michigan cancels game with ZeroStATE.
Pussies.
Covid survivor arrogance on display here.
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Anyone who thinks any conference would not do what the Big However Many just did for the under similar circumstances - put its best and highest committee ranked team in its championship game rather than keep them out for non-competitive reasons beyond their control - is living in a pre-CFP reality.
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Anyone who thinks any conference would not do what the Big However Many just did for the under similar circumstances - put its best and highest committee ranked team in its championship game rather than keep them out for non-competitive reasons beyond their control - is living in a pre-CFP reality.
Or is totally oblivious to reality.
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tOSU did not meet the minimum game requirement as set by the B1G before the season started to play in the confererence championship game, so
tOSU the B1G changed the rules after competition was finished. To many it seems unfair to all the other B1G schools who competed under the rules.
the answers of "well any other conference would have done the same thing" or "oblivious to reality" intentionally skirts the real issue, of fair competition and playing by the rules.
But they do explain the mindset of the state of the Republican party, that after losing an election, it now wants to invalidate the results, as it trashes the long-held generally accepted norms of fair competition, but at the polling place rather than on football field.
And I really don't give a shit one way or another, its only football, but play by the fucking rules should mean something.
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tOSU did not meet the minimum game requirement as set by the B1G before the season started to play in the confererence championship game, so tOSU the B1G changed the rules after competition was finished. To many it seems unfair to all the other B1G schools who competed under the rules.
the answers of "well any other conference would have done the same thing" or "oblivious to reality" intentionally skirts the real issue, of fair competition and playing by the rules.
the would have made the championship game regardless of the outcome of any sixth game. It is not like the did anything to game the system.
But they do explain the mindset of the state of the Republican party...
Fuck you. There is no reason to get personally insulting.
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the would have made the championship game regardless of the outcome of any sixth game. It is not like the did anything to game the system.
I understand the logic of that argument.
And I'm not blaming tOSU, but the B!G rules stated that 6 conferences games must be played to qualify for the championship, and they didn't play 6 games.
So the B!G changed the rules after the saeason was over.
What's the crime in letting NU and IU, who both competed under the B1G rules, and who finished first under the B1G rules, compete for the B1G championship?
That ratings might be hurt?
BFD
The fix will be in when the EC Championship Bowl Committee meets to pick the top 4 teams anyway. They'll kickout out the loser of Clemson and ND to make way for tOSU the illegitimate bastard son pretender to the B1G crown.
The B1G if they had an ounce of honesty would also rule that tOSU scrape the Buckyes stickers off their helmets and replace them with, you know what's coming-----
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heh
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the would have made the championship game regardless of the outcome of any sixth game. It is not like the did anything to game the system.
I understand the logic of that argument.
And I'm not blaming tOSU, but the B!G rules stated that 6 conferences games must be played to qualify for the championship, and they didn't play 6 games.
So the B!G changed the rules after the saeason was over.
What's the crime in letting NU and IU, who both competed under the B1G rules, and who finished first under the B1G rules, compete for the B1G championship?
That ratings might be hurt?
BFD
The fix will be in when the EC Championship Bowl Committee meets to pick the top 4 teams anyway. They'll kickout out the loser of Clemson and ND to make way for tOSU the illegitimate bastard son pretender to the B1G crown.
The B1G if they had an ounce of honesty would also rule that tOSU scrape the Buckyes stickers off their helmets and replace them with, you know what's coming-----
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heh
😁😂😁😂
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tOSU did not meet the minimum game requirement as set by the B1G before the season started to play in the confererence championship game, so tOSU the B1G changed the rules after competition was finished. To many it seems unfair to all the other B1G schools who competed under the rules.
the answers of "well any other conference would have done the same thing" or "oblivious to reality" intentionally skirts the real issue, of fair competition and playing by the rules.
But they do explain the mindset of the state of the Republican party, that after losing an election, it now wants to invalidate the results, as it trashes the long-held generally accepted norms of fair competition, but at the polling place rather than on football field.
And I really don't give a shit one way or another, its only football, but play by the fucking rules should mean something.
Ahhhhh. But you forget. The only rule that matters in CFB is "Give us money. Give us more money".
This is why the NCAA sidelined all of the college athletics programs that serve do many students, like wrestling, and crew, and tennis, golf, swimming(the safest sport!), sports from which about 70% of our Olympic athletes come.
CFB is a plague on college athletics. Always has been, always will be. So, there should be no surprise that tOSU was awarded something they did not earn. Especially by this proven to be corrupt conference. (See sexual abuse; Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State).
And there should be no surprise that the CFB BIG TIME ASSHOLE FANATICS are okay with it.
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Hell with all that. Let's focus on what is important: Saturday's battle for the World's Ugliest Trophy! You are going down cap!
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Anyone who thinks any conference would not do what the Big However Many just did for the under similar circumstances - put its best and highest committee ranked team in its championship game rather than keep them out for non-competitive reasons beyond their control - is living in a pre-CFP reality.
Actually, I do think that. In fact I know that there is a conference that would not do that. But then Larry Scott is a complete idiot...so there's that.
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Anyone who thinks any conference would not do what the Big However Many just did for the under similar circumstances - put its best and highest committee ranked team in its championship game rather than keep them out for non-competitive reasons beyond their control - is living in a pre-CFP reality.
Actually, I do think that. In fact I know that there is a conference that would not do that. But then Larry Scott is a complete idiot...so there's that.
I think the most attractive bowl game coming up is the Fiesta with Indiana and Southern Cal. Could be a showcase game for both Conferences. The Hoosiers riding high with the media, the Trojans w-a-a-y underrated.
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Anyone who thinks any conference would not do what the Big However Many just did for the under similar circumstances - put its best and highest committee ranked team in its championship game rather than keep them out for non-competitive reasons beyond their control - is living in a pre-CFP reality.
Actually, I do think that. In fact I know that there is a conference that would not do that. But then Larry Scott is a complete idiot...so there's that.
I think the most attractive bowl game coming up is the Fiesta with Indiana and Southern Cal. Could be a showcase game for both Conferences. The Hoosiers riding high with the media, the Trojans w-a-a-y underrated.
We should have a traditional USC-tOSU New Years Day battle
You know a New Years day game that we had back in the 60s, 70s and 80s.
the good old days of college football
Hayes versus McKay at 4pm was as predictable as a New Years hangover
ahh the good old days!
Today we could relive those magnificent gridiron match-ups of our youth!
a 4-0 USC v a 5-0 tOSU
we just can't call it the Rose Bowl
how about
The Relaxation Bowl.
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I think the most attractive bowl game coming up is the Fiesta with Indiana and Southern Cal.
I agree that would be a good game from a pre game hype perspective and hopefully a good match up.
I think the best case scenario for USC this year would be to win out on the Pac 12 championship game and then be at least very competitive against a team like Indiana. That would set up nicely for a better run next year when we hopefully have more depth and experience on both lines.
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On a day when the Ohio State/Michigan rivalry could not continue we can at least pause and reflect on what a rivalry is.
"So I’ll say this again. How do you respect a rivalry? You work it every day. You don’t shoot your mouth off. If I ever hear, whatever’s going on, I hear a player take a shot verbally at them - that’s a problem. How do you show respect for a rivalry? You work it every damn day. Not by tee shirts. Not by bullshit.
When I see people giggle about how we don’t wear blue in here - I don’t laugh about that. We don’t have blue pens in here. That’s not funny. This is Nike vs. Adidas, this is Coke vs. Pepsi, this is Ohio State vs the Team Up North. This is our livelihood.
So if you're new to the program - welcome to the program. Understand where you’re at. This is not a game. This is not silly. This is a way of life. There’s a bunch of former players in the back that lived it. As you move up, you live it. This is who you are.
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. And you work it every day. And I don’t give a shit if you’re from California or Texas or whatever, as soon as you say you’re a Buckeye this is part of your life for the rest of your life - and you don’t lose to those pricks. You beat them every day. Every day."
Urban Meyer. J
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Wow!
What 2 great games to close out the regular season in an irregular year.
Congrats to USC for beating arch Rival UCLA in a game that wen to the final second.
Florida was knocked out of CFP consideration thanks to the most unpredictable unsportsmanlike mistake I have ever seen.
A true bonehead play.
OSU fans couldn’t be happier.
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Congrats to USC for beating arch Rival UCLA in a game that wen to the final second.
USC is 5-0 and there are still many chanting to Fire Helton. gotta love fans...I guess.
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We were way ahead and all these mysterious "points" started to appear for the PSU! And none of them were for us! I hear boxes of points just were shipped in from a mystery spot! I demand an investigation! The Courts must overturn the result and award the victory to us! Stop the steal!
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We were way ahead and all these mysterious "points" started to appear for the PSU! And none of them were for us! I hear boxes of points just were shipped in from a mystery spot! I demand an investigation! The Courts must overturn the result and award the victory to us! Stop the steal!
I saw where Rudy Giuliani is taking new business.
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Pac 12 has scheduled the championship game of USC-UW on Friday at the coliseum, since the county of Santa Clara is still on lock down. Then they have scheduled CU-UO on Saturday also in the coliseum.
Apparently they want every combination present and ready to play in case someone has to drop out at the last minute due to covid.
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Pac 12 has scheduled the championship game of USC-UW on Friday at the coliseum, since the county of Santa Clara is still on lock down. Then they have scheduled CU-UO on Saturday also in the coliseum.
Apparently they want every combination present and ready to play in case someone has to drop out at the last minute due to covid.
Prescient
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Pretty sure U-Dub is out
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The latest COVID mess brewing.
The Rose Bowl is in danger because of California travel restrictions
Game could be moved to Texas and the Rose Bowl not be played for the first time in something like 117 years
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Steve I'm looking at the big ten's schedule and results this year. They basically have Ohio state and a bunch of also rans. They are starting to remind me of what you used to call the pac 12 twenty years ago. You may have to start referring to the big 10 now as the PAMWPs
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Congress introduces bill to control college athletics
https://www.si.com/college/2020/12/17/athlete-bill-of-rights-congress-ncaa-football (https://www.si.com/college/2020/12/17/athlete-bill-of-rights-congress-ncaa-football)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2020/12/17/ncaa-overhaul-come-democrats-college-athletes-bill-rights/3935483001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2020/12/17/ncaa-overhaul-come-democrats-college-athletes-bill-rights/3935483001/)
This is dangerous stuff. A presidential commission that would control the rules of all college athletics? Is the next step to nationalize and control all college academics and curriculum?
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Steve I'm looking at the big ten's schedule and results this year. They basically have Ohio state and a bunch of also rans. They are starting to remind me of what you used to call the pac 12 twenty years ago. You may have to start referring to the big 10 now as the PAMWPs
Well, the Big However Many had no OOC games this year and had a lot of cancellations in conference so a team that might be a 9 - 3 team with a 3 - 0 OOC can be 2 -.3. I am drawing no conclusions from this year.
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spoken like a true politician
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spoken like a true politician
Hey - I resent that! When have I ever insulted you like that?
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
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Won't their losing by 100 points tomorrow make that demand moot?
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
Opting out of the CFP would be a huge recruiting tool for OLotPT. Huge.
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
Opting out of the CFP would be a huge recruiting tool for OLotPT. Huge.
I think “ threatening” to do it IS a great recruiting tool.
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
He should think before he speaks. It makes him look less intelligent to make a completely idle threat. he probably could have made his point in a way that didn't make him look like a jerk. Oh wait...that's right he is one.
Won't their losing by 100 points tomorrow make that demand moot?
too funny...but my guess is they will get in anyway
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The difference between Brian Kelly and Dabo Sweeney is that Dabo can occasionally say something that makes him seem like a jerk and Kelly can occasionally say something that makes him seem like a reasonably nice guy.
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The difference between Brian Kelly and Dabo Sweeney is that Dabo can occasionally say something that makes him seem like a jerk and Kelly can occasionally say something that makes him seem like a reasonably nice guy.
True.
They're very much like Pete Carroll.
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
He should think before he speaks. It makes him look less intelligent to make a completely idle threat. he probably could have made his point in a way that didn't make him look like a jerk. Oh wait...that's right he is one.
I think he thought clearly BEFORE he spoke.
Standing up for his players and their families hardly has a downside. Even if he loses the battle he scores more points by thinking long term.
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I disagree. If he had thought before he spoke he could have fashioned a much better opinion on it instead of making a childish threat that no one would take seriously. I have no problem with him calling out California. I hope they do move it.
For those of you out of state that are not aware, Warden Newsom is about to face a recall battle. Moving it would just be another stain on his inglorious tenure.
But none of that excuses Kelly. I actually thought it was one of Kelly's least offensive outbursts, but he still comes across as childish and petty. He is just completely incapable of acting like a mature adult.
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
He should think before he speaks. It makes him look less intelligent to make a completely idle threat. he probably could have made his point in a way that didn't make him look like a jerk. Oh wait...that's right he is one.
I think he thought clearly BEFORE he spoke.
Standing up for his players and their families hardly has a downside. Even if he loses the battle he scores more points by thinking long term.
Yeah, and when ND gets sent to the Rose Bowl? And ND goes? Kelly will look like a fatuous blow hard.
Trojan is free to replace "look like" with the verb of his choice.
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Nails it!!!!
“I’m not sure we’ll play in the playoffs if the parents can’t be there,” Kelly said on a Zoom call leading up to the ACC title game. “Why would we play if you can’t have families at the game? If you can’t have families at bowl games, why would you go to a game where families can’t be part of it? What’s the sense of playing a game in an area of the country where nobody can be part of it?”
Well, idiot, the point is to generate the television revenue that’s so important to paying your seven-figure salary and keeping the NCAA afloat. That’s why we’ve had a football season this year, even though all the other fall college sports got moved to the spring. That’s it. And maybe Kelly hasn’t noticed, because his head is too far up his own ass, but we’re now passed 300,000 American deaths, and December has been the deadliest month of the pandemic here. So maybe pump the brakes on saying it’s so important to have players’ families at football games that you might not want to play if they can’t attend.
“It makes no sense to me to put a bunch of kids on a plane and fly them all the way to California to play in an empty stadium,” Swinney said, almost getting it before swerving into idiocy.
“That makes zero sense to me when you have plenty of stadiums where you can have fans and, most importantly, you can have families. It should be the same for all four teams as far as the opportunity that you have. This year everybody has had to make adjustments. To me, that would be a simple one to make.”
Yes, everybody has had to make adjustments. People have stayed away from their loved ones at holidays, people have had to figure out how to work at home if they’ve even been able to keep their jobs, and people have had to say final farewells to dying relatives on video calls because they couldn’t see them in person. And Swinney and Kelly are big mad because they might — might — have to spend New Year’s in the California sun, but without players’ parents? In order to protect those parents from traveling and possibly contracting a deadly virus?
https://deadspin.com/brian-kelly-and-dabo-swinney-should-be-fired-if-their-j-1845916665/amp (https://deadspin.com/brian-kelly-and-dabo-swinney-should-be-fired-if-their-j-1845916665/amp)
Fuck these assholes.
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
He should think before he speaks. It makes him look less intelligent to make a completely idle threat. he probably could have made his point in a way that didn't make him look like a jerk. Oh wait...that's right he is one.
I think he thought clearly BEFORE he spoke.
Standing up for his players and their families hardly has a downside. Even if he loses the battle he scores more points by thinking long term.
Yeah, and when ND gets sent to the Rose Bowl? And ND goes? Kelly will look like a fatuous blow hard.
To whom? Certainly not his players, their families, or recruits.
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
He should think before he speaks. It makes him look less intelligent to make a completely idle threat. he probably could have made his point in a way that didn't make him look like a jerk. Oh wait...that's right he is one.
I think he thought clearly BEFORE he spoke.
Standing up for his players and their families hardly has a downside. Even if he loses the battle he scores more points by thinking long term.
Yeah, and when ND gets sent to the Rose Bowl? And ND goes? Kelly will look like a fatuous blow hard.
To whom? Certainly not his players, their families, or recruits.
Precisely to them.
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Brian Kelly says Norte Dame could boycott CFP semifinals if team families are not allowed to attend
He should think before he speaks. It makes him look less intelligent to make a completely idle threat. he probably could have made his point in a way that didn't make him look like a jerk. Oh wait...that's right he is one.
I think he thought clearly BEFORE he spoke.
Standing up for his players and their families hardly has a downside. Even if he loses the battle he scores more points by thinking long term.
Yeah, and when ND gets sent to the Rose Bowl? And ND goes? Kelly will look like a fatuous blow hard.
To whom? Certainly not his players, their families, or recruits.
Precisely to them.
It's not how one looks to his sycophants that counts ( a lesson lost on those in the GOP, or Big 10 fans), it's what one truly is. Kelly is an ass, no matter who decides to kiss his.
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To whom? Certainly not his players, their families, or recruits.
[/quote]Precisely to them.
[/quote]
I think your well documented disdain for Notre Dame football is standing in the way of logical reasoning.
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Hey, Ward, learn how to format the page!
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Hey, Ward, learn how to format the page!
he is making it fun for us. Sometimes we go back and "fix" it for him.
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Today’s Sermon on the Mount
Go Bucks!
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Buckeyes took care of business.
It's looking like Clemson is giving no quarter to Notre Dame. Assuming they continue blowing Notre Dame out, is there any chance Notre Dame falls out of the top 4?
If they stay in, do they move them down to #4 in order to avoid another rematch of this game on Jan 1
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Coach Kelly
We got good news and bad news
the good news is your players and families will have plenty of time together watching the CFP semifinals
the bad news...
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Did anybody truly believe Notre Dame was the second-best team in the country?
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Did anybody truly believe Notre Dame was the second-best team in the country?
They still might wind up there or first.
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Did anybody truly believe Notre Dame was the second-best team in the country?
Sure.
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Brian Kelly was prescient
Rose Bowl cancelled.
Semi final CFP game moved to Texas.
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Brian Kelly got more than he asked.
Notre Dame will play Alabama in Texas where the seating will accommodate 16, 000 people, ample room for scores of friends of families that would not have been permitted in Pasadena.
Normally Alabama would be hosting a Sugar Bowl game, a geographical deference to the number one seed.
But Covid-19 restricts the Sugar Bowl to just 3000 fans. So the number one team was rewarded withna site that will have the biggest crowd
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Likely they won't take the title but ND is in, so fuck ya'all.
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What a joke
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Likely they won't take the title...
I don't think the committee did them any favor. If they thought Clemson was a shellacking...
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Likely they won't take the title...
I don't think the committee did them any favor. If they thought Clemson was a shellacking...
The committee ranks the top four.
It does not grant “ favors”.
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There is a Duke's Mayo Bowl? That sounds like the single worst Cracker Barrel menu item ever.
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Go out and punch an innocent football player today for coach😁
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Yawn.
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Red
your scripts arrived in time for today's big games.
Haven't watched a whole lot of college ball this year, but am looking forward to day.
Has Elba's own easy-rider Jbots made an appearance in awhile-I haven't seen his unique TIC and alcohol inspired takes in awhile.
I hope he's ok and can enjoy his Tigers playing the tOSU 6-packs
Does anyone feel Our Lady may get Roll Tied and ass-kicked today.
Sorry, Maam, this just doesn't seem to be your lucky day!
Happy New Year to All
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There is a Duke's Mayo Bowl?
This year there should have been a Yoshinoya (or Panda Express) Chicken Bowl. But I guess most teams would have opted out.
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Notre Dame and the under
Nice effort
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Notre Dame and the under
Nice effort
Yeah, but there was not a moment in the game where I thought Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie was anything like an equal with a chance to win.
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As a 20 point underdog why would they be?
Not their fault that as the top 5 team they are they are still a distance from Alabamy
Many on the Tide roster wouldnt be admitted to ND, correct?
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that was a 60 yards in the air dagger
helluva throw
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tOSU played a great game
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Ohio State is now the first “11th ranked” football team to win a CFP playoff game.
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So...
still Lawrence over Fields?
I still dont see what makes TL better than Burrow.
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I guess ClemSIN is the 12th best team in the country, eh Dabo?
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As a 20 point underdog why would they be?
Not their fault that as the top 5 team they are they are still a distance from Alabamy
Many on the Tide roster wouldnt be admitted to ND, correct?
Oh, I guess if you are into moral victories.
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As a 20 point underdog why would they be?
Not their fault that as the top 5 team they are they are still a distance from Alabamy
Many on the Tide roster wouldnt be admitted to ND, correct?
Oh, I guess if you are into moral victories.
I don't harbor any grudges against Our Lady of South Bend, but she got her ass-kicked once again in a bowl game.
WTF was Rudy?
Tough day for the ACC and its affiliate.
Fields had a game.
I thought he was going to explode on the field after that nasty helmet body shot he took.
He must have been given pain-killers last approved by the Kentucky Derby in the 1950s to get through that game.
But whatever, he was unreal. and that 60-yard dagger to ice the game, a thing of beauty.
A well deserved win for tOSU.
should make for a good championship game.
Bama is a 7 pt fav. ou is 77
tOSU is 7-0
7s are wild.
should be a good game
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Can't see the's corners keeping up with Bama's wideouts.
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Clemson's complete lack of a running game allowed OSU to do things with their CBs and safeties that they will not be able to do with Bama. In the second half the Buck's defense was ignoring the rush wholesale and the DE's were teeing off on Lawrence. If the Buckeyed defense can control the LOS like they did against the Tigers without keeping their safeties up they can win this game. But they can't and they probably won't.
Bama's defense, while better than Clemson's will have to deal with some really brilliant offensive strategy applied by them against the Tigers. The OSU offensive braintrust beat Venables at his own game. Or more to the point of not letting him play his game. Venables likes to steal signs. And he's very VERY good at it. The Buckeyes simply didn't afford him that opportunity and caught the Tigers flatfooted numerous times. The Buckeyes won't be able to apply that strategy against Saban's D. That's not to say the Buckeyes can't score on the Tide D. Frankly Bama's defense has some fleas. They aren't glaring but they are there at times. Bama will score and sadly for Buckeye fans OSU's defense won't stop them. Just how much OSU scores to answer back is really the whole ballgame here.
So the $64,000.00 question here is, "Just how hurt is Justin Fields?" That old style football hit was vicious! Now it's a penalty according to the pussies that make the rules. If Fields can take a hit then the Buckeyes have a real shot in this game. If he's wounded and it shows that's going to allow Saban do do some things on defense that will really make it hard for OSU.
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cap remains CTE's biggest fan.
Etienne is a better running back than Harris. The's success in limiting him - and being able to tee off on Jennifer Lawrence, had more to do with being up three scores. If they get up three scores on Bama, they can shut down Harris and.rush Jones hard too. I just don't see the getting that kind of separation. Of course I didn't see that against ClemSIN either.
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Trojans sign Korey Foreman, 24/7's #1 high school prospect.
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The Tide OL is way better than Clemson's. The success in limiting Etienne(Who is not really that much better than Harris if he is at all) was for the whole game as the Tiger OL couldn't make any holes. Easy to see that part. Yes in the end the teeing off was partly due to the score. But the building blocks for that were set in the first half.
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Trojans sign Korey Foreman, 24/7's #1 high school prospect.
Congrats Scotty. How is their class overall?
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Clemson's complete lack of a running game allowed OSU to do things with their CBs and safeties that they will not be able to do with Bama. In the second half the Buck's defense was ignoring the rush wholesale and the DE's were teeing off on Lawrence. If the Buckeyed defense can control the LOS like they did against the Tigers without keeping their safeties up they can win this game. But they can't and they probably won't.
Bama's defense, while better than Clemson's will have to deal with some really brilliant offensive strategy applied by them against the Tigers. The OSU offensive braintrust beat Venables at his own game. Or more to the point of not letting him play his game. Venables likes to steal signs. And he's very VERY good at it. The Buckeyes simply didn't afford him that opportunity and caught the Tigers flatfooted numerous times. The Buckeyes won't be able to apply that strategy against Saban's D. That's not to say the Buckeyes can't score on the Tide D. Frankly Bama's defense has some fleas. They aren't glaring but they are there at times. Bama will score and sadly for Buckeye fans OSU's defense won't stop them. Just how much OSU scores to answer back is really the whole ballgame here.
So the $64,000.00 question here is, "Just how hurt is Justin Fields?" That old style football hit was vicious! Now it's a penalty according to the pussies that make the rules. If Fields can take a hit then the Buckeyes have a real shot in this game. If he's wounded and it shows that's going to allow Saban do do some things on defense that will really make it hard for OSU.
Cap that hit last night was "spearing" and spearing has been outlawed for almost 50 years.
The pussies back in the 70s, like Woody and Bo, and Bear knew it was dirty and dangerous and banned it.
It was a dirty hit by the Clemson guy.
There's no place in the game for that shit.
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Absolutely loved that hit. That wouldn't have been a penalty in the 30's, 40's,50's, 60's, 70's,80's
So there was once a place for it for over a half century.
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Watched professional rugby today. Men still playing like men. Nice.
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Watched professional rugby today. Men still playing like men. Nice.
And not one rugby player leads with his head.
if they did they'd be playing wheelchair rugby.
If they were lucky.
Spearing, which was what that was, was banned, almost 50 years ago,
It was a dirty and dangerous play pure and simple.
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Congrats Scotty. How is their class overall?
#8 currently on 247
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Absolutely loved that hit. That wouldn't have been a penalty in the 30's, 40's,50's, 60's, 70's,80's
So there was severe lasting chronic brain injuries because of it for over a half century.
fify
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Whether or not such a hit would have been penalized in the days of yore seems irrelevant to me.
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You used to be able to clothesline defenseless receivers. Night Train Lane made a career of it. Brutal shit that is designed to injure should be outlawed. And frequently is. Like chopping at a lineman's knees.
How long has that type of hit been illegal? It is not a good football play, any more than a face mask tackle is.
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Why would Haskins be a warning for Fields? Anymore than, say, Tanner Magnum would be a warning for Zach Wilson?
Hit from the ClemSIN kid was a crown down hit. Does not have to be defenseless. That is always illegal.
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Watched professional rugby today. Men still playing like men. Nice.
And not one rugby player leads with his head.
if they did they'd be playing wheelchair rugby.
If they were lucky.
Spearing, which was what that was, was banned, almost 50 years ago,
It was a dirty and dangerous play pure and simple.
This spearing crap is so overblown. Calling that spearing is just plain wrong. That would not have been a penalty in my day. When I played that would have just been a great tackle. That's how we played, if you couldn't take it you either went and sat the bench or quit. No way in hell that play was flagged. No effing way.
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Whether or not such a hit would have been penalized in the days of yore seems irrelevant to me.
Great it seems irrelevant to you. Doesn't change the fact that it wouldn't be a penalty. It was friggin football.
The world can cry me a river about it and I just don't give a @#it. Or to put it nice like you do, it's irrelevant to me.
You're a classy guy YG I've always been the first to say that. And I'm...well... I'm not.
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Watched professional rugby today. Men still playing like men. Nice.
And not one rugby player leads with his head.
if they did they'd be playing wheelchair rugby.
If they were lucky.
Spearing, which was what that was, was banned, almost 50 years ago,
It was a dirty and dangerous play pure and simple.
This spearing crap is so overblown. Calling that spearing is just plain wrong. That would not have been a penalty in my day. When I played that would have just been a great tackle. That's how we played, if you couldn't take it you either went and sat the bench or quit. No way in hell that play was flagged. No effing way.
Cap that hit was the definition of spearing.
In your day you were not taught to tackle that way, I wasn't, no one was. Because leading with your helmet was dangerous to everyone.
The difference today is that instant replay can catch the play. Back in your day that would have been a hard brutal hit, and unless the ref had the right angle on it, nothing would have been called. But it doesn't change the fact it was a dirty hit.
I saw that hit and instantly, I mean instantly, thought "spearing that guy' gone".
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Absolutely loved that hit. That wouldn't have been a penalty in the 30's, 40's,50's, 60's, 70's,80's
So there was once a place for it for over a half century.
El Capitan, Good to see you are still kicking, Cap! All the best for a
Happy and Healthy 2021!
I checked out the video of the Clemson LB's hit on the BuckNut QB who was
running upfield at the time, not sitting in the pocket throwing the ball and hence
in a "defenseless position". The Tiger LB had been ejected before, I understand, and
should have been extra aware of his tackling technique. I think it is highly likely
the Tiger LB thought the BuckNut was going to slide and was surprised that instead he
twisted his body and thrust his back into the Tiger's helmet.
A stupid move by the BuckNut and he is to blame for any injury to his ribs he sustained.
( He also took a flop trying to draw a penalty which the ref let go with a warning!)
As for who will be drafted first Lawrence or the BuckNut....the NFL teams will have the
Lesson of one Dwayne Haskins to ponder long and hard before taking a chance on
an even more immature and less talented QB like Fields.
Anyway, Cap, good to see you!
Take care and stay safe.
DeeJ
Hey Deej, great to hear from you.
And yes the QB did do an Olé! But that's is NEVER taken into consideration when the bleeding hearts look at a play. Most can't do it objectively, they think the defensive player can make impossible moves in mid-air. The big lie is the "leading with your head" BS. I know what launch tackling with your helmet is. I've done it and I was good at it. And I know what simple bowing your neck, lowering your shoulders getting down and hittin a guy is. They are two dofferent things.
Did I ever feel bad about doing the latter? Never, did I feel bad about doing the former, well...sometimes. Hey. I said never I'd be lying. Sometimes you need to make someone understand why it's not a good thing to run your mouth too much.
But again great to hear from you.
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The rules of the past don't matter.
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Watched professional rugby today. Men still playing like men. Nice.
And not one rugby player leads with his head.
if they did they'd be playing wheelchair rugby.
If they were lucky.
Spearing, which was what that was, was banned, almost 50 years ago,
It was a dirty and dangerous play pure and simple.
This spearing crap is so overblown. Calling that spearing is just plain wrong. That would not have been a penalty in my day. When I played that would have just been a great tackle. That's how we played, if you couldn't take it you either went and sat the bench or quit. No way in hell that play was flagged. No effing way.
Cap that hit was the definition of spearing.
In your day you were not taught to tackle that way, I wasn't, no one was. Because leading with your helmet was dangerous to everyone.
The difference today is that instant replay can catch the play. Back in your day that would have been a hard brutal hit, and unless the ref had the right angle on it, nothing would have been called. But it doesn't change the fact it was a dirty hit.
I saw that hit and instantly, I mean instantly, thought "spearing that guy' gone".
Actually you're wrong Rich. Sorry but wrong. I was absolutely taught to make exactly the same tackle that the Clemson player made. That wasn't launch spearing, it was a simple get down and hit em tackle. Nothing wrong with it.
And yes my coach was always pissed if I launch "speared" someone. Mostly because he didn't want me to get hurt and out of the game. Didn't stop the SOB from playing me though. That's the "real" truth about coaching back in the day. All this "we never taught that stuff" is a flat out bullshit. Coaches taught it, maybe not all but lots of them did. That was the real world my brother.
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The rules of the past don't matter.
Didn't say they did. What I did say was the new rules suck.
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And as was case with players of every generation, players need to learn to play within them.
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And as was case with players of every generation, players need to learn to play within them.
Yeah yeah.
LOL
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Watched professional rugby today. Men still playing like men. Nice.
And not one rugby player leads with his head.
if they did they'd be playing wheelchair rugby.
If they were lucky.
Spearing, which was what that was, was banned, almost 50 years ago,
It was a dirty and dangerous play pure and simple.
This spearing crap is so overblown. Calling that spearing is just plain wrong. That would not have been a penalty in my day. When I played that would have just been a great tackle. That's how we played, if you couldn't take it you either went and sat the bench or quit. No way in hell that play was flagged. No effing way.
Cap that hit was the definition of spearing.
In your day you were not taught to tackle that way, I wasn't, no one was. Because leading with your helmet was dangerous to everyone.
The difference today is that instant replay can catch the play. Back in your day that would have been a hard brutal hit, and unless the ref had the right angle on it, nothing would have been called. But it doesn't change the fact it was a dirty hit.
I saw that hit and instantly, I mean instantly, thought "spearing that guy' gone".
Actually you're wrong Rich. Sorry but wrong. I was absolutely taught to make exactly the same tackle that the Clemson player made. That wasn't launch spearing, it was a simple get down and hit em tackle. Nothing wrong with it.
And yes my coach was always pissed if I launch "speared" someone. Mostly because he didn't want me to get hurt and out of the game. Didn't stop the SOB from playing me though. That's the "real" truth about coaching back in the day. All this "we never taught that stuff" is a flat out bullshit. Coaches taught it, maybe not all but lots of them did. That was the real world my brother.
Actually that was the defintion of spearing cap.
I was taught to tackle with my shoulder, head on the outside and wrap up the runner.
If you were taught to lead with your head, then you were.
the Clemson guy lowered his helmet and drove it into Fields.
I had no problem with him being tossed. It was a dangerous play.
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The rules of the past don't matter.
Didn't say they did. What I did say was the new rules suck.
So did Junior Seau's suicide. All sorts of rules get changed because they are dangerous and cause.injury.
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Watched professional rugby today. Men still playing like men. Nice.
And not one rugby player leads with his head.
if they did they'd be playing wheelchair rugby.
If they were lucky.
Spearing, which was what that was, was banned, almost 50 years ago,
It was a dirty and dangerous play pure and simple.
This spearing crap is so overblown. Calling that spearing is just plain wrong. That would not have been a penalty in my day. When I played that would have just been a great tackle. That's how we played, if you couldn't take it you either went and sat the bench or quit. No way in hell that play was flagged. No effing way.
Cap that hit was the definition of spearing.
In your day you were not taught to tackle that way, I wasn't, no one was. Because leading with your helmet was dangerous to everyone.
The difference today is that instant replay can catch the play. Back in your day that would have been a hard brutal hit, and unless the ref had the right angle on it, nothing would have been called. But it doesn't change the fact it was a dirty hit.
I saw that hit and instantly, I mean instantly, thought "spearing that guy' gone".
Actually you're wrong Rich. Sorry but wrong. I was absolutely taught to make exactly the same tackle that the Clemson player made. That wasn't launch spearing, it was a simple get down and hit em tackle. Nothing wrong with it.
And yes my coach was always pissed if I launch "speared" someone. Mostly because he didn't want me to get hurt and out of the game. Didn't stop the SOB from playing me though. That's the "real" truth about coaching back in the day. All this "we never taught that stuff" is a flat out bullshit. Coaches taught it, maybe not all but lots of them did. That was the real world my brother.
Actually that was the defintion of spearing cap.
I was taught to tackle with my shoulder, head on the outside and wrap up the runner.
If you were taught to lead with your head, then you were.
the Clemson guy lowered his helmet and drove it into Fields.
I had no problem with him being tossed. It was a dangerous play.
There is no way. And I mean no way Rich if you were a defensive player that you never not on purpose hit a guy with the crown of your helmet. No way. If you say you never did then...well... I'm sorry but you're lying. Sure you try and hit with your shoulder. But, here's the thing, guys you try to tackle have this nasty habit of trying not to get hit. They tend to move. And you can't always just stop in mid air to accommodate them.
I'm really the Reggie Jackson of this forum aren't I. :-)
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The rules of the past don't matter.
Didn't say they did. What I did say was the new rules suck.
So did Junior Seau's suicide. All sorts of rules get changed because they are dangerous and cause.injury.
Would you feel all butt hurt if I said I don't give a shit? You play a dangerous sport you take your chances. You knew what it was going in. Sure people will try and "fix" it. Happens to every dangerous thing out there. Some day you'll only be allowed to sky dive in a virtual reality chamber.
Fuck that.
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Watched professional rugby today. Men still playing like men. Nice.
And not one rugby player leads with his head.
if they did they'd be playing wheelchair rugby.
If they were lucky.
Spearing, which was what that was, was banned, almost 50 years ago,
It was a dirty and dangerous play pure and simple.
This spearing crap is so overblown. Calling that spearing is just plain wrong. That would not have been a penalty in my day. When I played that would have just been a great tackle. That's how we played, if you couldn't take it you either went and sat the bench or quit. No way in hell that play was flagged. No effing way.
Cap that hit was the definition of spearing.
In your day you were not taught to tackle that way, I wasn't, no one was. Because leading with your helmet was dangerous to everyone.
The difference today is that instant replay can catch the play. Back in your day that would have been a hard brutal hit, and unless the ref had the right angle on it, nothing would have been called. But it doesn't change the fact it was a dirty hit.
I saw that hit and instantly, I mean instantly, thought "spearing that guy' gone".
Actually you're wrong Rich. Sorry but wrong. I was absolutely taught to make exactly the same tackle that the Clemson player made. That wasn't launch spearing, it was a simple get down and hit em tackle. Nothing wrong with it.
And yes my coach was always pissed if I launch "speared" someone. Mostly because he didn't want me to get hurt and out of the game. Didn't stop the SOB from playing me though. That's the "real" truth about coaching back in the day. All this "we never taught that stuff" is a flat out bullshit. Coaches taught it, maybe not all but lots of them did. That was the real world my brother.
Actually that was the defintion of spearing cap.
I was taught to tackle with my shoulder, head on the outside and wrap up the runner.
If you were taught to lead with your head, then you were.
the Clemson guy lowered his helmet and drove it into Fields.
I had no problem with him being tossed. It was a dangerous play.
There is no way. And I mean no way Rich if you were a defensive player that you never not on purpose hit a guy with the crown of your helmet. No way. If you say you never did then...well... I'm sorry but you're lying. Sure you try and hit with your shoulder. But, here's the thing, guys you try to tackle have this nasty habit of trying not to get hit. They tend to move. And you can't always just stop in mid air to accommodate them.
I'm really the Reggie Jackson of this forum aren't I. :-)
Cap i played 2-way in high school and on kick-off team, and I banged hats with guys, because it happened, because its football, but not because I wanted to use my head as a battering ram.
But that's not the discussion and I did not say that-its a BS deflection.
Kids running at each other with mayhem on their mind are going to hit hats.
But I was never coached nor taught to lead with my helmet. I was taught technique.
If you're telling me you were taught to lead with your head, I believe you.
and the Clemson kid led with his helmet and speared Fields.And it was obvious.
And he got called for it and got run.
Which was the right call.
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It isn't obvious to me at all. He put his head and shoulders down to make a tackle. The QB ole'ed and he got nailed.
Unfortunate, but I'm not going to cry about it. Shit happens. At least you admit that shit happens. I'll take it.
You think the kid did it on purpose. I'm saying as fast as that happened it could easily have not been on purpose. And just because the "new rules" nailed him before that doesn't mean jack shit either. If it can happen once it can happen a dozen times.
So, I'll stick with fuck the new rules thank you. :-)
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And here's the thing Rich we are NOT going to agree on this. So one of us is going to have to say okie dokie we move on.
So okie dokie.
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I agree cap-reasonable folks can see a play in a different way.
There are some helmets to helmets I think are unintentional, CB lowers his shoulder as the WR braces and lowers, and helmet to helmet. and the CB gets called. Which I think is a tough call. And I probably would let those slide.
But I did not feel that way on the Clemson hit, it looked to me as planned and could have been avoided. I thought Fields was done for the day or longer.
And okie dokie.
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Fair enough my friend.
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There is nothing in the targeting rule that says that an offensive player can't be called for targeting. The key to rule is whether the player struck is defenseless. I agree, though, that in the scenario you describe Fields wouldn't have been called for targeting. And for the most part, I guess, it's hard to conceive of a defensive player being, well, defenseless.
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Fair enough my friend.
and HNY to you and your family
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. And for the most part, I guess, it's hard to conceive of a defensive player being, well, defenseless.
I think you may be forgetting the crack-back block and blind-sided peal-back blocks where the defender is definitely considered "defenseless".
Fair enough.
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Curious that Texas is betting on its return to upper tier of college football by giving the reins to Steve Sarkisian.
Granted that the Longhorns were forced to fire Tom Herman once it became known that its offer to Urban Meyer was refused. Herman was neutered in recruiting after that. In addition Herman’s 38-12 looks decent except for the fact his teams never won a championship and 27 of those 50 games were decided by 7 points or less and, of those, 16 games were against unranked teams..
Sarkisian had modest success at Washington but his stint at USC was marred by a reported drinking problem.
He became an analyst under Nick Saban then promoted to Offensive coordinator when Lane Kiffen left.
Now Sarkisian is considered an offensive guru running the Tide’s explosive offense led by Mack Jones, Devonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle, et al.
But those players were recruited by Saban.
Can Sarkisian keep up in the recruiting wars with Saban, Day, Kelly, Swinney, and Jimbo?
Texas just signed $25 million worth of payout checks to Herman and his departing coaches.
The stakes are pretty high.
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When the winless New York Jets put together a two game victory streak late in the season fans laughed as the hapless jets moved from first round draft choice to second. Clemson phenom Trevor Lawrence would go first in the draft.
Then Clemson fell to Ohio State and a game-of-the-year performance by Justin Fields in a CFP semi-final game.
Trevor who?
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A few observations even though Banks and Cap have okie dokied and move on....
Tackling technique has changed over the years (along with face mask design, and yes, they are connected). Sticking your face mask into the sternum of the QB as he throws was very popular.
But that technique was not recommended for bringing down a 240 lb fullback with a head of steam and his head lowered to ram anyone in his path. (More on that running back head butt later). Little scat-back types could be hit high with great success.
The head in front of the runner and wrapping up both legs was very effective when tackling from the side angle. And for awhile some Coaches advocated the rodeo tackle with shooting for one leg and lifting. This technique was favored by the wrestling coaches bidding their Time until winter sports were in season.
Using the helmet as a weapon was used by both runners and tacklers. I always wore shoulder pads that fit close to the neck and could position my helmet to brace against the pads for ranming
when necessary.
Spearing was against the rules, but not enforced with much enthusiasm by officials. The most common case of spearing was driving your helmet into a runner who was down or almost down on the ground before the whistle blew. DB's and Safeties were the main culprits. Certain college teams made this their MO in the Intimidation game.
Now the play in discussion....lets suppose that the Clemson LB keeps his head up and the BuckNut
QB rams the crown of his helmet into the defender, is that targeting? Of course not.
I am and have been in favor of the targeting rule from the get-go, but this was not the situation
the rule makers had in mind, IMO, when they with the best of intentions implemented this rule
for the safety of the players.
Don't know who the replay official was, but I have seen many similar hits since this rule was added
that have not led to an ejection.
Okie Dokie!
To clarify, the ClemSIN player lead with the crown of his helmet. That is targeting. It is ways targeting, offense or defense, defenseless or not. And regardless of what the targeted player is doing - Fields was trying to get a couple more yards to get a first down. If the kid goes in any other way than head down, crown first, there is no penalty. There are times, particularly with helmet to helmet contact, when you can empathize with a defensive player who gets caught by a player ducking his head, but this one was clearly illegal under a circumstances and an easy hit to avoid. I have never seen a crown of the helmet not called by replay, if it was missed on the field (as this one was).
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There is nothing in the targeting rule that says that an offensive player can't be called for targeting. The key to rule is whether the player struck is defenseless. I agree, though, that in the scenario you describe Fields wouldn't have been called for targeting. And for the most part, I guess, it's hard to conceive of a defensive player being, well, defenseless.
And the BuckNut QB was "defenseless" because he chose to turn and lead with his back?
Well, defenseless was irrelevant to the call, but he was trying to avoid the tackle to get a first down. Needed two more, and he was hoping to either make the player miss, or at least deflect the blow to get two more yards. ClemSIN kid goes in anyway other than crown first and it is a good football play, both ways.
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. And for the most part, I guess, it's hard to conceive of a defensive player being, well, defenseless.
I think you may be forgetting the crack-back block and blind-sided peal-back blocks where the defender is definitely considered "defenseless".
Both of which have been made illegal. Now that cap is no longer playing I am sure he is willing to see DLs cried for life for the sake of his enjoyment of old times football. For me, I welcome rules changes that make the game.safer and keep the best players on the field. Using the legal tackling technique that could have been a great legal hit without the risk of the ClemSIN kid a quadriplegic for the rest of his life.
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Head down, crown of the helmet deej, from any angle. It is a penalty if the hit had been to Fields's belly or side.
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You may want targeting enforced but you do not seem to understand what the penalty was in this case.
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I was not expecting this:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30662122/clemson-tigers-qb-trevor-lawrence-likely-no-1-overall-pick-enters-nfl-draft
When I was still living in SE Michigan I went to Greektown in Detroit with my girlfriend. As we walked the street, we saw a couple walking in our direction, closely followed by an old woman, waving her cane in the air, shouting at them. We stopped into a bakery for bread and baklava and when we came out, the same old woman was headed the other way, following nobody, waving her cane in the air and shouting the same things.
Which is.to let you know deej that when you delete your posts you make me feel like her.
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A few observations even though Banks and Cap have okie dokied and move on....
Tackling technique has changed over the years (along with face mask design, and yes, they are connected). Sticking your face mask into the sternum of the QB as he throws was very popular.
But that technique was not recommended for bringing down a 240 lb fullback with a head of steam and his head lowered to ram anyone in his path. (More on that running back head butt later). Little scat-back types could be hit high with great success.
The head in front of the runner and wrapping up both legs was very effective when tackling from the side angle. And for awhile some Coaches advocated the rodeo tackle with shooting for one leg and lifting. This technique was favored by the wrestling coaches bidding their Time until winter sports were in season.
Using the helmet as a weapon was used by both runners and tacklers. I always wore shoulder pads that fit close to the neck and could position my helmet to brace against the pads for ranming
when necessary.
Spearing was against the rules, but not enforced with much enthusiasm by officials. The most common case of spearing was driving your helmet into a runner who was down or almost down on the ground before the whistle blew. DB's and Safeties were the main culprits. Certain college teams made this their MO in the Intimidation game.
Now the play in discussion....lets suppose that the Clemson LB keeps his head up and the BuckNut
QB rams the crown of his helmet into the defender, is that targeting? Of course not.
I am and have been in favor of the targeting rule from the get-go, but this was not the situation
the rule makers had in mind, IMO, when they with the best of intentions implemented this rule
for the safety of the players.
Don't know who the replay official was, but I have seen many similar hits since this rule was added
that have not led to an ejection.
Okie Dokie!
To clarify, the ClemSIN player lead with the crown of his helmet. That is targeting. It is ways targeting, offense or defense, defenseless or not. And regardless of what the targeted player is doing - Fields was trying to get a couple more yards to get a first down. If the kid goes in any other way than head down, crown first, there is no penalty. There are times, particularly with helmet to helmet contact, when you can empathize with a defensive player who gets caught by a player ducking his head, but this one was clearly illegal under a circumstances and an easy hit to avoid. I have never seen a crown of the helmet not called by replay, if it was missed on the field (as this one was).
I am loathe to get back into this but...watch a few hundred tackles of that type. Tell me how many you think will be with the defensive players "head down". You'll find a large percentage are. If you miscalculate as a tackler you hit them with your helmet and not your shoulder. Put your head up too far and watch "your" neck get snapped if you miscalculate. So yeah at the last second often it is head down. Simple human instinct.
Unfortunately a person's head is on the top of their body. It's not nearly as simple and cut and dried as nonplayers think it is. Hundreds of head down tackles occur every week.(thousands when all divisions were playing) It is tackling.
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Your neck doesnt get snapped back if you are using the crown and "miscalculate". With head UP - yes. (let padded helmets and neck rolls be your friend)
The rule is there for very good reason
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That seemed all too easy.
OSU player pulling a cheap ankle twisting. LOL
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Your neck doesnt get snapped back if you are using the crown and "miscalculate". With head UP - yes. (let padded helmets and neck rolls be your friend)
The rule is there for very good reason
That's what I said young Kid.
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Well alright, it's looks like we're going to have a game after all.
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That seemed all too easy.
OSU player pulling a cheap ankle twisting. LOL
Old school cap is in favor of a little dirty work in the pile.
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Etienne better than Harris? Not so fast my friend!
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That seemed all too easy.
OSU player pulling a cheap ankle twisting. LOL
Old school cap is in favor of a little dirty work in the pile.
Yeah, I used to flush future lawyers heads in the toilet too.
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It's a joke in case you thought to take it seriously. You can be a little touchy at times.
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It's a joke in case you thought to take it seriously. You can be a little touchy at times.
A joke, with a touch of truth. The flushees were, i assume, not future lawyers but rather from the Math Team.
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Now that assumtion just doesn't add up.
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I assume the's DC knows more about how to design and run a defense, but it seems to me that having a linebacker cover Smith deep is, tactically, a bad idea.
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I think the should have a player go head to head with Smith to concuss him out of the game. Someone useless, like Wade.
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Well, that is a white flag.
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Yeah, that was kind of like...what?
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Now that assumption just doesn't add up.
I counted on you to make that kind of response.
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A joke of a season ends with a joke of a game. Pitiful just Pitiful
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I think Jim stopped the count in the 1st qtr.
I bet he was surprised to see final score when he awoke.
congrats to Bama fans
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Not much reason to watch after the raised the white flag with about 1:30 left before the half.
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That seemed all too easy.
OSU player pulling a cheap ankle twisting. LOL
They reward that at ZeroState, Cap, didn't you know?
Chris Spielman had it down to a T, that and getting off the pile last to jig up his tackle totals!
ZeroState is The Culture of Cheapness in college football.
I know you are a college football guy, Deej, so I'll just mark this down as trolling. Spielman remains the best college linebacker I've ever seen.
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Justin Fields was the offensive star award winner in the B1G but his leadership off the field greatly helped the league overturn its disastrous decision to cancel the season. Fields became the spokesperson for the players in fighting to play. He started an online petition that got 250,000 signatures in a day. Before long it sank in on the rest of the key league leaders that without a season the B1G might suffer harm that would takes years to overcome. The idea that the SEC, ACC(with Notre Dame) and the Big12 would be seen on TV while the B1G would not gave coaches and their recruiting staffs nightmares.
Especially Ryan Day at tOSU, the only BIgTen school to match Nick Saban in attracting top talent from all corners of the country.*
Finally the season was saved and a decision retired Commissioner Jim Delaney would never even have considered was overturned. It even convinced the moribund PAC 12 to play as well.
The BigTen wound up in the B1G game and kept its recruiting power on a par with Alabama.
* Their Uniforms Say Ohio State and Alabama. The Players Are From Everywhere.
Wall Street Journal, January 10, 2020
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Just because Spielman was good doesn't mean he didn't play dirty when he was so inclined.
You said he inflated his tackle numbers by jumping on the pile. That's laughable and incorrect. I suggest you go back and look at the films.
I don't think he was any dirtier than any other great MLB.
But don't talk to me about "kill shots" and targeting. I abhor them as I've made clear. You need to talk to Cap'n about his abiding love for them.
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My daughter goes to Michigan. I have no love for Ohio State. My son went to Northwestern. I have no love for Ohio State. I went to Maryland. I have no love for Ohio State. And to top it off: my ex went to Ohio State. I have no love for Ohio State.
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My daughter goes to Michigan. I have no love for Ohio State. My son went to Northwestern. I have no love for Ohio State. I went to Maryland. I have no love for Ohio State. And to top it off: my ex went to Ohio State. I have no love for Ohio State.
It is just dj's normal anti OSU hard on. He can never give them their earned due.
For what it is worth the greatest college linebackers of all time were George Webster, Brad Van Pelt and Percy Snow. And I am aware Van Pelt and Webster were hybrid safety/linebackers in college. In today's game they would be considered linebackers, like Isaiah Simmons.
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Van Pelt wasn’t 6’11, but he was a great athlete and for a long while was the best player on some awful Giants’ teams.
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Oh.
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Oh.
BVP was 6' 5". But to be fair, women have been lying to dj about how big 6 inches is all his adult life.
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I'd like to see that program. He was always listed as 6'5 with the Giants.
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A joke of a season ends with a joke of a game. Pitiful just Pitiful
A joke of a sport, which functionally exists only for the purpose of stealing $$$$$$.
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My daughter goes to Michigan. I have no love for Ohio State. My son went to Northwestern. I have no love for Ohio State. I went to Maryland. I have no love for Ohio State. And to top it off: my ex went to Ohio State. I have no love for Ohio State.
I have no love for Ohio, let alone Ohio State.
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Oh.
BVP was 6' 5". But to be fair, women have been lying to dj about how big 6 inches is all his adult life.
He was listed as 6'8, 235 in the program. But it is true that heights and weights were augmented
to increase the physicality of athletes. Women may have lied, but the men never did, big boy!
I clearly botched the landing on that joke.
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Looking back on the COVID-19 College Football Season:
“ Coronavirus doomsayers slammed college football for moving ahead with the season, with one “expert” even claiming that up to seven would die by the end of the season.
Others also predicted many more would end up hospitalized thanks to the decision to keep playing.
Well.
The college football season ended last weekend, and in retrospect, no one died from the virus, nor was anyone even hospitalized with symptoms.
So much for the “experts.”
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Looking back on the COVID-19 College Football Season:
“ Coronavirus doomsayers slammed college football for moving ahead with the season, with one “expert” even claiming that up to seven would die by the end of the season.
Others also predicted many more would end up hospitalized thanks to the decision to keep playing.
Well.
The college football season ended last weekend, and in retrospect, no one died from the virus, nor was anyone even hospitalized with symptoms.
So much for the “experts.”
Your'e a fucking idiot.
About 24 million Americans have been infected and about 400,000 have died becasue of the disease.
You have no evidence how many people were infected or how the virus spread on college campuses or by football players, as there was no contact tracing.
So just STFU
Your stupidity can spread and it is deadly.
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Red demonstrating how football is more important than people dying.
The lucid thoughts of a lunatic.
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Looking back on the COVID-19 College Football Season:
“ Coronavirus doomsayers slammed college football for moving ahead with the season, with one “expert” even claiming that up to seven would die by the end of the season.
Others also predicted many more would end up hospitalized thanks to the decision to keep playing.
Well.
The college football season ended last weekend, and in retrospect, no one died from the virus, nor was anyone even hospitalized with symptoms.
So much for the “experts.”
Your'e a fucking idiot.
About 24 million Americans have been infected and about 400,000 have died becasue of the disease.
You have no evidence how many people were infected or how the virus spread on college campuses or by football players, as there was no contact tracing.
So just STFU
Your stupidity can spread and it is deadly.
Spot on Rich.
Let's hope Biden and Co can ramp up the vaccine distribution to a war footing sort of thing. Because that's what it really is.
The vaccine progress seems painfully slow and the longer it takes the more people will die. We need to knock this thing out like we did with polio. America is undergoing a new millennium culture change. Everyone young and old have got to get onboard. I absolutely hate wearing masks but it isn't about what people "like". But masks and cleaning and separation alone isn't going to stop this virus. Sure I could use a $2,000.00 check but I'd gladly forego it if it would vaccinate a few more people. The longer it takes the more chance that a mutation far enough removed from the original make vaccines useless. Get your ass moving government and get this out to everyone.
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Of course, Red/ESPN3 again lifted those words (the proper term is "plagiarized") from another source without attribution so maybe Red/ESPN3 doesn't really believe them.
Edit: Shocking. What do you know? It can be found on Breitbart.
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/01/12/someone-is-going-to-die-grim-preseason-prediction-debunked-college-football-season-ends-zero-fatalities/ (https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/01/12/someone-is-going-to-die-grim-preseason-prediction-debunked-college-football-season-ends-zero-fatalities/)
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Looking back on the COVID-19 College Football Season:
“ Coronavirus doomsayers slammed college football for moving ahead with the season, with one “expert” even claiming that up to seven would die by the end of the season.
Others also predicted many more would end up hospitalized thanks to the decision to keep playing.
Well.
The college football season ended last weekend, and in retrospect, no one died from the virus, nor was anyone even hospitalized with symptoms.
So much for the “experts.”
Your'e a fucking idiot.
About 24 million Americans have been infected and about 400,000 have died becasue of the disease.
You have no evidence how many people were infected or how the virus spread on college campuses or by football players, as there was no contact tracing.
So just STFU
Your stupidity can spread and it is deadly.
Spot on Rich.
Let's hope Biden and Co can ramp up the vaccine distribution to a war footing sort of thing. Because that's what it really is.
The vaccine progress seems painfully slow and the longer it takes the more people will die. We need to knock this thing out like we did with polio. America is undergoing a new millennium culture change. Everyone young and old have got to get onboard. I absolutely hate wearing masks but it isn't about what people "like". But masks and cleaning and separation alone isn't going to stop this virus. Sure I could use a $2,000.00 check but I'd gladly forego it if it would vaccinate a few more people. The longer it takes the more chance that a mutation far enough removed from the original make vaccines useless. Get your ass moving government and get this out to everyone.
Yup
I'm just tired of Red's idiotic partisan game of 3-card Donnie. He only fools himself. Which is not hard.
My guess is Biden will fast-track vaccines "pharm to arm" because thats critical.
Get the National Guard medical personal out there with syringes. I'm tired of shitting on Trump, but Warp Speed for its successes, fumbled on the goal line and dropped the ball on getting distribution right. Vacc sitting on shelves does shit.
Lets get healthy, back to school, work, life, and kick ass.
We have a chance to regain our identity as Americans and sacrificing for each other for our collective benefit. So until we get vacced, wear masks and be smart and think of the greater good.
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Is it your opinion that collegiate athletics right now should all be on hiatus?
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Of course, Red/ESPN3 again lifted those words (the proper term is "plagiarized") from another source without attribution so maybe Red/ESPN3 doesn't really believe them.
Edit: Shocking. What do you know? It can be found on Breitbart.
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/01/12/someone-is-going-to-die-grim-preseason-prediction-debunked-college-football-season-ends-zero-fatalities/ (https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/01/12/someone-is-going-to-die-grim-preseason-prediction-debunked-college-football-season-ends-zero-fatalities/)
If “ it” are the facts I posted they can be found through multiple sources.
And they are undisputed.
Do you now dispute them?
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The fact is that you plagiarized. Again.
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The fact is that you plagiarized. Again.
Then you don’t understand the meaning of the word.
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Passing other’s material off as your own is the definition of plagiarism. I understand it well. For God’s sake how hard is it to cite your source?
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The fact is that you plagiarized. Again.
Thanks.
The facts stand and can’t be plagiarized.
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Is it your opinion that collegiate athletics right now should all be on hiatus?
Its not an argument I made. I'm not in a position to judge the facts, nor science nor health factors which should be weighed state by state region by region, before that decision is made.
Perhaps in a country where 4,000 people a day are dieing and hospitals are overflowing with infected, threatening our health care abilities you could lend your expertise and insight into the matter.
In a country where there is a raging pandemic, and where there will be 500,000 dead within the month, I would urge caution. As I did earlier this year. .
I would note that presumably out of saftey concerns tOSU football team played 7 games this season, including the national championship game.
In 2019 they played 14 games, and would have played 15 if they played the champioship game.
I found Red's point to be irrelevant misleading and meant to distract from 24 million infected and 400,000 dead.
He should be ashamed of his gross indecency.
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Bankshot did a fine job refuting the “facts” of the actual scribe of those words. I could write them down as my own, but who would do that? As far as your plagiarism goes, a heartfelt “I’m sorry” would be sufficient for me.
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Passing other’s material off as your own is the definition of plagiarism. I understand it well. For God’s sake how hard is it to cite your source?
A fact is a fact. It can’t be plagiarized but it can be challenged.
You plagiarize if you use the original ideas of others and give the impression someone else's work is yours.
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I’m glad you admit it. You used the language of someone else right down to the “coronavirus doomsayers slammed” and passed it off as original writing. Textbook plagiarism. And really lazy.
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I’m glad you admit it.
Admit what?
My posts stand as posted.
If you want to argue the issues fine.
If not use the ignore feature.
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It’s hard to ignore teachers who plagiarize.
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I’m glad you admit it. You used the language of someone else right down to the “coronavirus doomsayers slammed” and passed it off as original writing. Textbook plagiarism. And really lazy.
Except, of course, I made that point months ago.
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It’s not the “point” you supposedly made. It’s that you stole someone’s words to make it.
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It’s not the “point” you supposedly made. It’s that you stole someone’s words to make it.
I suggest you choose ignore.
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Red's point seems to be that months ago he did not accept nor understand the risks of covid as warned by "experts" (not identified).
And in that time millions of Americans got sick and hundreds of thousands died.
Its no wonder he chose to distract and mislead.
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Cleaning up loose ends regarding the size of Brad Van Pelt.
From the listing of Van Pelt in the College Football Hall of Fame:
Brad Van Pelt was a two-time All-America, unanimous in 1972. That year he won the Maxwell trophy as the nation's best player. This was the first time a defensive back won the award. Also in 1972, he was named Chevrolet Defensive Player of the Year and Columbus Touchdown Club Defensive Player of the Year. In his career, he had 14 interceptions. He returned two of them for touchdowns. Brad was one of college football's largest players at his position, as such he was also extremely valuable in run support and often shifted into a linebacker.
His physical stats at MSU, according to the Hall of Fame, were
6’5””
235 lbs
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In a country where there is a raging pandemic, and where there will be 500,000 dead within the month, I would urge caution. As I did earlier this year. .
So if they are cautious it makes sense they can play
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I’m glad you admit it.
Admit what?
My posts stand as posted.
If you want to argue the issues fine.
If not use the ignore feature.
LOL
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In a country where there is a raging pandemic, and where there will be 500,000 dead within the month, I would urge caution. As I did earlier this year. .
So if they are cautious it makes sense they can play
kid likes to pick cherries from fruit salad.
But he still manages to choke on the raspberries and strawberries.
The caution I urged related to these apples and oranges
Its not an argument I made. I'm not in a position to judge the facts, nor science nor health factors which should be weighed state by state region by region, before that decision is made.
I would note in a smaller universe than college athletics, the NBA a few days ago was considering a 7-14 day hiatus, and examining its protocols, as the virus runs wild in the country.
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It’s hard to ignore teachers who plagiarize.
Well, remember, Red's teaching certification is only good at private schools.
Heh
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College football has been ruined by $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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So it looks like OU and Texas are bolting to God's Conference. So long to the Pure Prairie League. Hard.to imagine it lasting without those two teams. Kansas and ISU are supposedly looking to jump to the Big However Many. I can almost see KU as a fit, but not ISU. Both are AAU schools (Texas was the only other AAU school currently in the PPL), but KU brings a fresh market for the Big Network, the Kansas City market and hoops cred, ISU brings othing that adds to the bottom line that I can see. Wonder if poaching from the South Atlantic League is in the cards to balance out a KU addition. Georgia Tech would be ideal.
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West Virginia might be in play for the Big and they could also make another run at Notre Dame?
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Actually, if I read the ND/ACC agreement right, if ND decides to go conference it has to pick the ACC up to 2036?
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West Virginia might be in play for the Big and they could also make another run at Notre Dame?
West Virginia checks no boxes for the Big. It is not an AAU member and more importantly does no really bring any financial benefit to the Big However Many. Easy, and fashionable, and generally accurate as it is to be cynical about any claim joining academic integrity and College Football in the same sentence, each of the Big However Many's additions over the years has shared two attributes: they have been AAU members, and they have expanded the Big's reach into areas it has not been, usually with major population centers with lots of cable outlets.eager to buy into the network. Nebraska is a big of an outlier, but they were an AAU member when they joined and while they did not reach a major population center they had at the time a big football reputation. Other than Kansas the only Pure Prairie League team that clicks both boxes is Texas. The only schools that don't click both boxes I can see them going for would be Notre Dame which may not technically expand the foot print but has an attraction well beyond the geographical and which could be an AAU member if they gave a shit about such things, and Oklahoma which has an athletic reach and reputation that may bring enough for the league to ignore the a academics. West Virginia offers some rivalry options, and it is a relatively convenient foe for alumni travel, but that is not how the Big However Many has been thinking in the past.
Here is an interesting thought: Texas and Oklahoma are bound to the Pure Prairie League for three or four more years. I suspect they act together. I wonder if they can set up a bidding war between God's Conference and the Big However Many.
Other than that, the search for more members for the BHM is likely to take them to the ACC. Syracuse left the AAU at the same time Nebraska got kicked out, but the BHM would love the New York state market. Georgia Tech and the Atlanta market would cause a tidal wave of simultaneous jizz expulsion in the league office.
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Actually, if I read the ND/ACC agreement right, if ND decides to go conference it has to pick the ACC up to 2036?
If Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie wanted into the Big However Many they would be there by now. The ACC offers them a looser arrangement that suits them financially and gives them an easier schedule towards the playoffs, without traditional powers like the, Meatchicken, the Pennsylvania State and Michigan State in the way. They would probably vet.put in the West and would be embarrassed at always losing in football to Wisconsin and Iowa.
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Actually, if I read the ND/ACC agreement right, if ND decides to go conference it has to pick the ACC up to 2036?
Notre Dame’s commitment to the ACC through 2036 does not include football.
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Actually, if I read the ND/ACC agreement right, if ND decides to go conference it has to pick the ACC up to 2036?
Notre Dame’s commitment to the ACC through 2036 does not include football.
For purposes of Big However Many expansion, it won't matter.
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Anyone think the PAC try and pick up a couple of teams?
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BYU would make sense. San Diego State?
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Anyone think the PAC try and pick up a couple of teams?
They may lose teams.
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If trojanhorse’s out there - or I guess in here - is there anything to the Southern California to the Big However Many rumors? I would have thought poaching Colorado or Arizona (like SC, AAU members) more likely. They are a private school, so they do not check off all the BHM's boxes, but a foothold in Cali and.particularly LA would be worth it. Can't see USC with no other team out west, though. The PAWCP does have a lot of AAU members to choose from, and there are consequences to being the worst run P5 conference.
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BYU would make sense. San Diego State?
That depends on the sense you think territorial commonality makes. The BHM wouldn't expand entirely within its existing footprint which is one reason BHM teams get about 10 million dollars more from tv rights then PAWCP teams. I could see one of the Texas teams, maybe Okie State though - if they can get past the 2 hour time zone difference that starts the PAWCP games at, what, 9 or 10 Central Time?
I also doubt USC and UCLA want to elevate a recruiting rival in Southern California.
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BYU would make sense. San Diego State?
That depends on the sense you think territorial commonality makes. The BHM wouldn't expand entirely within its existing footprint which is one reason BHM teams get about 10 million dollars more from tv rights then PAWCP teams. I could see one of the Texas teams, maybe Okie State though - if they can get past the 2 hour time zone difference that starts the PAWCP games at, what, 9 or 10 Central Time?
I also doubt USC and UCLA want to elevate a recruiting rival in Southern California.
The Pac12 had a chance to buck up its marketing value several years ago when it was on the verge of an agreement with the B1G to have each league team schedule one non-conference game every year between the two leagues.
Southern Cal nixed the deal.
They should revisit the idea.
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So, assuming the BIG 12 continues on who do they target?
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So, assuming the BIG 12 continues on who do they target?
Well, I can think of.teams THEY could target, but cannot think why a team would leave the AAU or Mountain West for an unstable conference that no longer deserves a Power 5 designation, and - especially if Kansas is perceived as possibly jumping - whose great athletic history derives from schools that are no longer ger in it.
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Some teams I toyed with putting in my Top 11 but did not: Texas A&M is showing up on a lot of Top 10, but I am skeptical. Mond was the world for their offense for a long time, and they are also replacing the bulk of their line. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie is replacing a book with the sound of one hand clapping, along with eventual NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year JOK. More importantly, tough schedule for a team that I think gets consistently overrated. Meatchicken… well, fuck them. They are not rated as if they have gotten over Mount OSU until they actually do it. They look to be at best the third best team in the Big However Many East.
LSU looked like their National Championship was the product of the right QB in the right system. They may well be Top 10 eventually, but right now I am skeptical. I almost put University of California* in, but I keep expecting more of them than they deliver and there is just something about the Helton era that makes me say, naw, not fooling me this time. Maybe when they join the Big However Many West it will get better. I think the Pennsylvania State University is the second best team in the Big However Many East, but I do not have enough confidence in the Big Red Dog or the O Line. While Cincinnati is kind of a sexy pick for a possible Top 10, they have two tough Power (soon to be) 4 teams on their schedule. They could be the best Gang of (soon to be) 6 team, but that even one loss will knock them out of consideration, given the inherently weak schedule. I had Florida in and out like a yoyo, but they are replacing their QB, have defensive issues against the pass, and, well, the schedule maker put both LSU and Alabama on their cross conference schedule. Indiana… remains Indiana, and Texas, even replacing the head coach, is in “shame on me” territory until they prove otherwise.
11. North Carolina
They have the potential #1 pick in the NFL draft in Sam Howell, and return all five of their starters on the O Line – which was shaky a bit last year, but are a year better. While running back remains a concern, it is a repeat of some of the defensive breakdowns from last year that is more troubling. Schedule wise, the South Atlantic League remains atop heavy league, and UNC avoids ClemSIN . The only daunting road game is Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, and the only even interesting OOC game they have is against Wake Forrest, a concept I am still trying to get my head around. I doubt that they will not be, thanks to the schedule and Howell, “Thurston” for a Coastal Division title.
10. the Louisiana State University
So I wrote the intro before I finalized this Top 11. My qualms still reman, but of all the teams that I had issues putting in, I had the least issues with them. I still wonder whether their National Championship team was a perfect storm, but it came down to them or Florida for this spot, and in the end I went with the team I think will win that game. I think they are settled on a QB, and I think they have too much talent to be as inconsistent – and as poor running the ball – as they were last year. But the real issue the team had in its post-championship collapse was the defense. Getting rid of Faux Pelini should help. Maybe I am thinking too much about tradition, but I do trust that LSU’s defense will live up to its past rep. At the very least, they take away a portion of the field in the passing game with Stingley.
9. Iowa State
Veteran returning quarterback who if not great is at least purdy good, a veteran line and a really good running back. They also return most of a defense that lead the Pure Prairie League against the run. Though given the league dynamic, being good against the run kind of misses the point. Still, I think that their secondary should be able to carry its weight against some advanced passing attacks. To me, the key is those first two interstate games. NIU may be FCS, but they are a high quality cupcake that ISU could choke on, and Iowa is a real good Big However Many West team. I am putting my money on their balanced offense.
8. Oregon
Someone is winning the PAWCP, right? They could always catch the napping – or unsettled – but it is in Columbus. Not a whole lot of wiggle room with that game on their schedule. I am not sure who their QB will be, but they have the other offensive skill position players to allow whoever it is to succeed. The line is experienced, if not top end. Defensively, they have one of the two or three top returning defensive player in Thibodeaux - shouldn’t he be at LSU? – and some strong line backers. They will need to run the table, and they have the ever tough Stoney Brook Brookstoners in a post-the trap game.
7. Wisconsin
Maybe this is reflexive; I usually peg Wisky for the top Big However Many West champ. Last year was a dud, especially with the absence of a stud runner, but I am not sure another top level team got his with the COVID issues quite like Wisconsin. They still have a huge O line, mertz looked good before he got sick, and the receivers who missed the bulk of last year are back. They are also brining back 8 starters from the nation’s best run defense. For some reason, they get all both of their tough cross conference games at home and their only hard OOC game is a neutral field. So, reflexive or not, they should be a one loss regular season team at worst before the traditional steam rolling in the Big However Many Conference championship game and the eventual bowl loss.
6. Georgia
I have had them anywhere from top (functionally) three to out of the rankings. Their offense was better once Daniels seized the QB spot, and I expect them to improve – although it looks like Pickens is out for a big chunk of – perhaps all of – the year. They return most of their O line and their top runners from last year – eventually - so I expect an offensive improvement. Defense has lost some talent, but they should be strong. Thanks to God’s Conference’s policy of scheduling lots of cupcakes and only 8 conference games, they miss out on the top three teams form the West this year. That first game is they key; if they beat ClemSIN they can be a playoff team. But I have them losing to ClemSIN and then, well, losing one more while, well, Clemsoning.
5. Oklahoma
Unlike the next three teams, Oklahoma has a very good returning QB in Rattler, and six other starters return from the Pure Prairie league’s top offense. They also have most of their returning defensive players back, and they had a good, improving defense last year. Schedule wise, except for the for me at least satisfying renewal of one of the great rivalries from my youth, their out of conference schedule are a bunch of non-entities, leaving the two or three better Pure Prairie League teams as their only real issue. I don’t think it will be a problem
4. the
The next three teams are all breaking in new quarterbacks for 2021, all replacing first round picks. the OSU is replacing their 2020 QB with someone who did not throw a pass for tOSU in 2020. No one but Fields did. Not nominal backup C J Stroud, not even on a trick play or fake punt. Yes, the tOSU – like ClemSIN and Alabama - are refitting rather than rebuilding, and there is a load of talent to choose from. I suspect they will figure it out before the Day goes too long, but they open against BHM West contender Minnesota and then Oregon, so there is a potential for an early season misstep. Anyway, whoever the QB (it’s Stroud) is will have stand out wide receivers, including two potential first round draft choices, and what should be a very good line. Running back is a concern; Master Teague is a heads down, hit the assigned hole come hell or high water kind of runner. Defensively, they struggled against the pass, after years of first round draft choices at corner back, their top CB stunk last year, and is gone. Replacing a lot of linebackers, and they still haven’t brought in a Chase Young/Bosa/Bosa kind of pass rusher… well, who the fuck has? Still, I expect them to be strong defensively, and win the Big However Many.
3. ClemSIN
Of the top 3, ClemSIN is bringing in the new QB with the most experience in the form of the world’s worst Scrabble tile set. But when he played, he looked real good, so I will probably have to learn his name. (As an aside, Uiagalelei’s backup – before he got hurt - is named Taisun Phommachanh. Seriously. What the fuck?) Travis Etienne is gone after his seven year career, and unlike QB there is no obvious successor, but my guess is that they will be fine. Good line, Ross is back as a receiver. Defensively, they return 9 starters from a very good defense. They open against Georgia, but they should be a heavy favorite in every other game this year. ClemSIN has missed the playoffs once, in its first year. Even if they lose to Georgia, they will be back.
2. Alabama
Sometimes the obvious answer is the best one. Sure, Alabama lost a ton of top players. They always do, every year. And they still are the only team to play in the CFB Playoffs every year.** I have in the past knocked them down because they were replacing a QB or a star wide receiver or defensive talent, but that is clearly become irrelevant. Mac Jones is gone? Next! Waddle and Smith are gone? Next! Harris is gone? Next! Surtain and Baramore? Next! Fuck it. It is not even worth recapping the changes. I hate them and their year in, year out excellence.
1. Michigan State University
No, I don’t know who our quarterback will be. I am hoping Payton Thorne, if only for the carry over to next year, but I am reading Russo is the likely guy. He throws, historically, a lot of picks, but that was with Temple. He will have better receivers to work with – I think it is the strength of the team. Our running game has been atrocious the last few years, but the addition of Walker and Joiner should be an upgrade. Actually, considering no running back scored a TD for us last year, it would be hard form them NOT to be a serious upgrade. The O Line returns all of its starters, which is the definition of mixed blessing, but I can always hope that the extra year in the system, and the extra year of development, can bring better play. If we can limit turnovers, we could have a successful season. Defensively, there is a lot of returning talent from a really bad defense. I worry most about the line, which may be OK against the run, but doesn’t really have anyone who can apply pressure. Only one D Back had an interception last year, and he’s gone. Last year was a disaster (Predictably, given the circumstances, with Dantonio leaving late in the coaching change cycle, the inability to practice extensively under the new staff for months, the initial cancellation of the season) but Tucker has been recruiting well both from high school and in the portal, so I see an upward trajectory. I see 5 tough games on the schedule (we avoid three of the top West teams) so win one of those, hold serve on the rest, and we can be 8 – 4, 7-5. Baby steps.
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** I somehow blanked on 2019. Sorry.
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Nice start for tOSU
Iowa impressive as well as Penn State in a nail biter at Wisconsin.
And Maryland close to a nice win against West Virginia
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So Kenneth Walker is the odds on favorite for the Heisman, right?
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Maybe if he can earn a status equal to Lorenzo White or LaVeon Bell
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Four targeting ejections in Louisville Ole Miss Game
Cargo must be throwing furniture
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Maybe if he can earn a status equal to Lorenzo White or LaVeon Bell
He is on pace for 3300 yards and 72 touchdowns. I fully expect him to reach, if not exceed, those totals.
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Yardage gained against academic powerhouses don't count. Any yardage he gains against the school in Ann Arbor will be similarly discounted. If he could somehow gain yards against his own school, though, it would count twice. So maybe they could figure a way to do that.
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Speaking of Leveon - I hear RAVENS are looking (fantasy nugget of the day)
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Yardage gained against academic powerhouses don't count. Any yardage he gains against the school in Ann Arbor will be similarly discounted. If he could somehow gain yards against his own school, though, it would count twice. So maybe they could figure a way to do that.
Ann Arbor Undergrad Academics are highly overrated. Except their School of Nursing.
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Yardage gained against academic powerhouses don't count. Any yardage he gains against the school in Ann Arbor will be similarly discounted. If he could somehow gain yards against his own school, though, it would count twice. So maybe they could figure a way to do that.
Ann Arbor Undergrad Academics are highly overrated. Except their School of Nursing.
Solid save.
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EVENTUAL 2021 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 45, Youngstown State 3
I am guessing this series is a holdover from the Dantonio era. I hate these kinds of games; they can only hurt you. I mean, even if Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner Kenneth Walker III goes off for 275 and 4 TDs again, what have you gained? Well, fine, 275 yards, but you know what I mean. But if you struggle or pull a Meatchicken and lose, your season and early momentum is sunk. We should handle the once mighty Penguins with ease. That is what worries me.
Iowa 27, Iowa State 21
This is the first time ever these teams have met when both were ranked in the Top 10. Iowa handled a Top 25 team with ease while ISU struggled against FCS Northern Iowa, but I am not high on the IU D and noted earlier NIU is not a cakewalk. I did not get to see either team, or even highlights (As odd as this seems to say, by the way, if you get the chance to stay at the Best Western in Great Falls Montana, with a river view room, do it.) so I am just going off general impressions here. That is tru, by the weay, for most of the games here. I had better things to do than watch football.
the 37, Oregon 20
Oregon struggled to hold off a decent Fresno State, while the pulled away from a good Minnesota team. Stroud looked good, as did his receivers, and Williams and Henderson kind of eleviate my concerns about the running game and I have questions about the defense after last week, but I will take them here.
Meatchicken 31, Washington 17
MONTANA? Seriously? This is why I hate playing Youngstown State. THE MONTANA GRIZZLIES? By the way, I saw a grizzly
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Meatchicken 31, Washington 17
MONTANA? Seriously? This is why I hate playing Youngstown State. THE MONTANA GRIZZLIES? By the way, I saw a grizzly at an appropriate distance in Yellowstone on my vacation. Awesome.
University of California* 27, Stanford 10
Boy, Stanford looked outclassed against Kansas State
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University of California* 27, Stanford 10
Boy, Stanford looked outclassed against Kansas State Fighting Nepotists. Not that long since they were a top tier program, but it sure seems that way.
ClemSIN 17, South Carolina 3
I mean, sure, Georgias defense could be that good, but that was not even close to top level offensive football. Probably just a blip, but you do need to wonder if ClemSIN has seriously hurt its Tournament chances. Sure, you can overcome one quality loss, but ClemSIN does not play anyone currently ranked for the rest of the season. How impressive can their wins be?
Tennessee 27, Pittsburgh 21
Two so so teams that are really looking to be bowl eligible, maybe move up a spot in their conference rotations with a win. Who says there is nothing worth fighting for in the world anymore?
Utah 23, BYU 17
Da Utes have won 9 in a row in the Holy War or this version of it. That actually surprises me. BYU celebrates its impending admission to the Pure Prairie League which has exactly 0 schools in a comfortable two days drive from Provo, in the traditional way: losing to another Power 5 school.
Syracuse 24, Rutgers 16
I think it was Alcibiades in the Peloponnesian War, 415 B.C. He said, if Syracuse falls, all Sicily falls, and then Italy. He knew that Syracuse was the jugular of the island. Old Alcibiades always went for the throat. Syracuse will not fall. Rutgers will be bad this year.
the Pennsylvania State University 21, Ball State 0
Either Wisky and the PSU have elite defenses, or those two teams are in a world of offensive hurt. Or, I guess, both. PSU should be able to fight off the Battling Lettermen.
Texas 31, Arkansas 13
I am probably not the only one here old enough to remember this one being anointed the Game of the Century, winner takes the National Championship game by Richard Nixon.
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Apostrophes and dashes apparently end posts when I copy and paste.
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Apostrophes and dashes apparently end posts when I copy and paste.
If you edit, putting the dash in, save, then edit and put the stuff after the dash in, it has worked for me.
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Apostrophes and dashes apparently end posts when I copy and paste.
If you edit, putting the dash in, save, then edit and put the stuff after the dash in, it has worked for me.
The key word there is work. Which i am not doing for this.
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Four targeting ejections in Louisville Ole Miss Game
Cargo must be throwing furniture
LOL.
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Big 12 not dead yet. A good crop of teams actually all things considered. Houston is a large population center. UCF gets them in Florida. BYU has a decent following Cincy gets them in a good football region.
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Big 12 not dead yet. A good crop of teams actually all things considered. Houston is a large population center. UCF gets them in Florida. BYU has a decent following Cincy gets them in a good football region.
Those are good points, but the Pure Prairie League has swapped TAMU, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas for UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and BYU. And while three of the schools are new markets, I doubt anyone would find it even a level swap. No one in Ohio thinks of Cinci when they think football. It is a commuter school, and its reach is purely local. Houston is a huge market, but even in its home it is at best the #3 program. Likewise UCF, which is probably #4 even in Orlando. I think these four teams are the best the Conference can do, but some team - or better two - has to step up strong to keep them relevant in football. Who is your traditional power now? Baylor? TCU? Iowa State? Okie State? Good.programs, but it is like if Iowa or NC State were the marquee program. In a playoff world, it is hard to see the current relevance.
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Yep.
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This'll change college basketball a little too.
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Good no call in the endzone. WR trying to stop to get the DB to run him over. Ref wasn't havin it.
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OSU DC unable or unwilling to adjust his set to account for that sideline running play where the TE blocks the LB. It's killing them.
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Love the classy OSU fan giving the Duck player the double bird. LOL
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It's a BEAUTIFUL day in Columbus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sun is shinin, birds are chirping. :-)
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One good thing about the losing; at least we know bosox is not dead.
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I hope one of Jim's friends here looked in on him and maybe brought him a cup of soup and sandwich. I'd stay away from Duck soup at least for a week or so.
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
You're quacking me up, cap.
Hooray for Captain Cargo
The Elbanese Predictor
Does a nice job picking victors
Hooray
Hooray
Hooray
HEH
How's it goin cap?
I understand there's Duck running amok in Columbus
Buckeyes can't quite catch them.
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Helton didn't even make the tarmac.
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
You're quacking me up, cap.
Hooray for Captain Cargo
The Elbanese Predictor
Does a nice job picking victors
Hooray
Hooray
Hooray
HEH
How's it goin cap?
I understand there's Duck running amok in Columbus
Buckeyes can't quite catch them.
The Captain is a National Treasure! No ifs, maybes, or Nuts about it!
So he is not one but two really really stupid movies?
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Some interesting matchups both in conference and OOC. A Gods Conference team actuality heads north. Miracles do happen!
EVENTUAL 2021-2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 27, University of Miami 18
We made it through the cupcake with predictable ease, even though we had the foot off the gas in the second half, and Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner Kenneth Walker III had limited carries. Thorne looks like he can handle the QB position as a game manager, although he really has not been forced to throw a lot of passes yet. True interesting fact: MSUs first play from scrimmage, two consecutive weeks resulted in a 75 yard touchdown. If we can keep that up, we will be fine. Anyway, a step up in class from Ytown, though the U has been dusted by Alabama, of course no shame there, and squeaked by App State, which is an issue. The game is in Miami, but this is not your fathers U team. Or rather, since I at least am old enough that my fathers Miami teams were pre-Schnellenberger, this is not your childrens fathers U team. I hate that apostrophes are so problematic that I am forced to eschew them.
Alabama 49, Florida 27
The great thing about both the and ClemSIN losing early season Power 4 matchups is that we might get some new blood into the Playoffs. Now if we can get Alabama to lose an early season game. Nope. Just checked. They are still Alabama and Satan is still their coach. Damn.
the Pennsylvania State University 17, Auburn 13
This should be a really good game. I have not seen anything of the the PSU offense that makes me think they can score a lot of points against a good defense, but I do like their defense, and Bo Nix is Bo Nix. Away from Jordan Hare he is dreadful, and the game is in Happy Valley. I have changed the winner three times on this already.
the 42, Tulsa 28
I think the the offense just needs some reps to smooth out wrinkles, but boy that defense looked both out of position and poorly led. The lack of adjustments was shocking. The should handle Tulsa fairly well, but the has given up 35 or more points in three consecutive games, and there are already calls for the DCs head. The still has some quality games on their schedule and can make the playoffs if they run the table, but the will not run the table unless the defense gets fixed.
Oklahoma 45, Nebraska 20
All day with my dad, OSU v. Meatchicken, followed by Oklahoma v. Nebraska, then USC v. UCLA while drinking hot chocolate and roasting hot dogs in the fireplace to take the edge off the midwestern November night. Man, I miss those days. Nebraska lost this year to Illinois. Illinois sucks. Nebraska therefore sucks rocks.
Maryland 35, Illinois 17
As you may know, I try to cover the favorite teams and alma maters of regular posters, past and present, so I apologize to yankguy, our resident Terp, for forgetting Maryland the last week or so. Note that Bowdoin will not be making an appearance, though, until the Colby or Bates games. I am not THAT committed. Anyway, Illinois has one win to their credit, which is nice for them and probably represents one half of their total for the year.
Cincinnati 35, Indiana 20
I think IUs relevance last year was a perfect storm of a decent team and the COVID disruption issues with the other Big However Many East teams. I think they are a 6 win 6 loss team. Cinci is a solid group of 6 team, well coached and primed for that New Years bowl slot.
University of California* 27, Washington State 24
Jesus, if you fire a guy after two games, why was he still there to start the year? I mean, Helton was going to get fired somewhere along the line, and it is not a surprise since the team was not only beaten by Stanford but looked an unprepared, undisciplined mess in doing so. But what new information did those two games give that was not there at the end of last year? Wasted a year of growth for the team and the head coach by not firing him in December. May have lost the chance for Urban Meyer as well. Anyway, the Trojans go to the Most God Forsaken Outpost in Power 4 football. I think they play hard for the new coach.
Meatchicken 35, Northern Illinois 10
I am not sure if Meat has a great defense or Washington has an horrific offense, or some combination of the two. And I am not sure how good Meatchicken
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Meatchicken 35, Northern Illinois 10
I am not sure if Meat has a great defense or Washington has an horrific offense, or some combination of the two. And I am not sure how good of a passer the Meatchicken QB is. I just know that defense is good enough to handle NIU, and Meatchicken has a solid run game.
Purdue 38, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 35
OLotPT has narrowly beaten a Florida State team that lost to FCS Jax State and a Toledo team that remains Toledo. Maybe they can survive that tight rope walk until the big dogs show up. Maybe not. I say not. But then you all know how I feel about them and can take however much salt you want for this pick.
ClemSIN 35, Georgia Tech 14
Sure, a one loss ClemSIN is still in the picture for the Championship, and in the end that their lone loss was to Georgia may tell, but between the and ClemSIN, I think ClemSIN has to have more go its way, outside of winning all their games, to make the playoffs. They are likely to have only one win against a ranked team at year end. Georgia Tech is not much of a hurdle at this point.
Arizona State 24, BYU 21
There is a lot of enthusiasm for the Sun Devils, a name that persists despite right wing cancel culture
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Arizona State 24, BYU 21
There is a lot of enthusiasm for the Sun Devils, a name that persists despite right wing cancel cultures attempts to change it, locally. I am skeptical, if only because UNSC** and Southern Utah are more famous for, respectively, the most consistently annoying Food Network personality and a having the Southwests preeminent Shakespeare Festival. I was surprised, a little, by BYUs handling of Utah. They are now 2 and 0 against the PAWCP, although Arizona is awful. It is at BYU, so an upset would not surprise me.
North Carodamnlina 27, Virginia 24
Wheels came off the Sam Howell for Heisman bandwagon pretty much before the band even wagoned. UNC had visions of the South Atlantic Conference championship game, but one more Conference loss will likely kill that. This is a conference game, right? I mean, normally but UNC is playing Wake Forest OOC, so you never know. UVA has cruised through its first two, but the Power 4 game was against Illinois, so that hardly counts. I think UNC keeps their chances alive for now.
Oregon 63, Stony Brook 17
I dunno. West Egg to Oregon seems like an awful long trip to get the crap beat out of you.
Northwestern 27, Duke 7
Smart guys in pads!
Stanford 31, Vanderbilt 20
MORE smart guys in pads!
* Southern
** University of Nevada Sin City. I explain these things only once.
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Duck you and fuck your cut and paste apostrophe rule.
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Three and oh Baybee!
SC's frosh is throwing darts to London.
I think we can beat this the team.
My pick on the NIU game was pretty much on target... for the half time score.
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Beloved Stony Brook has score a TD against the #4 Ducks. And in the 1st quarter no less. If nothing else goes right today that will be enough.
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Sabin is right, his team can't play well for an entire game.
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The Spartans as well as the Wolverines are looking stout.
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D.J. Graham's int was a thing of beauty. Defense baby, defense.
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I do not know what is wrong with Scrabble Tile, but ClemSIN is really going to test the whole "Defense wins championships" saw. If they don't get him right ClemSIN has some losses in them.
Looks like BYU is the best team in the PAWCP South.
I could see bosox getting ready to post for a while, but it does look like the has their feature back. They will have to fix the defense before they get to the meat of the Big However Many East schedule.
Great game in Happy Valley. The White Out lived up to its reputation, and the game matched it. The leaping touchdown from the TE was my second.favorite play of the night. The Big However Many is going to be really interesting.
On one hand Bama looked beatable against an offensively challenged Florida. On the other, they won and I cannot shake the feeling that Satan is going to take the game to tell his team, I told you you weren't as good as your press clippings and no one will come within twenty of them for the rest of the year.
I was watching the IU game and, first, the targeting ejection of IU's stud linebacker clearly changed the game, and all i could picture was cap going nuts in his mom's basement. Second at one point I heard "Irving Poindexter is running loose in the secondary" and I thought, there is a sentence i never thought I'd hear. Turns out IU has a wr whose last name is Ervin-Poindexter. Too bad.
There is a chance we could go into the Meatchicken game with both unbeaten. Schedule is doable, though we are at IU the week before and Meat has Whisky.
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Looks like BYU is the best team in the PAWCP South.
Would be if BYU played in the Pac12.
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Looks like BYU is the best team in the PAWCP South.
Would be if BYU played in the Pac12.
Sigh.
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Looks like BYU is the best team in the PAWCP South.
Would be if BYU played in the Pac12.
Sigh.
Sigh
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Ohio State converted its entire game day management to modern technology a week ago.
All Tickets and parking passes are now accessed via hand held phones and refreshments are paid via credit cards.
As you might expect it was not a smooth transition and thousands of fans were inconvenienced.
OSU promised they could fix the electronic problems.
Meanwhile the team laid an literal egg against Oregon.
The team made coaching reassignments.
Saturday on the field the team beat Tulsa, but not convincingly
Athletic Director Gene Smith concluded the ticket, etc snafus of last week were mitigated.
But.
25,000 fans from a week ago did not attend the game.
It was the smallest OSU Home Crowd in 50 years dating back to the Woody Hayes era.
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I do not know what is wrong with Scrabble Tile, but ClemSIN is really going to test the whole "Defense wins championships" saw. If they don't get him right ClemSIN has some losses in them.
Looks like BYU is the best team in the PAWCP South.
I could see bosox getting ready to post for a while, but it does look like the has their feature back. They will have to fix the defense before they get to the meat of the Big However Many East schedule.
Great game in Happy Valley. The White Out lived up to its reputation, and the game matched it. The leaping touchdown from the TE was my second.favorite play of the night. The Big However Many is going to be really interesting.
On one hand Bama looked beatable against an offensively challenged Florida. On the other, they won and I cannot shake the feeling that Satan is going to take the game to tell his team, I told you you weren't as good as your press clippings and no one will come within twenty of them for the rest of the year.
I was watching the IU game and, first, the targeting ejection of IU's stud linebacker clearly changed the game, and all i could picture was cap going nuts in his mom's basement. Second at one point I heard "Irving Poindexter is running loose in the secondary" and I thought, there is a sentence i never thought I'd hear. Turns out IU has a wr whose last name is Ervin-Poindexter. Too bad.
There is a chance we could go into the Meatchicken game with both unbeaten. Schedule is doable, though we are at IU the week before and Meat has Whisky.
Tulsa let me down
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Meanwhile the team laid an literal egg against Oregon.
A literal egg? I would've paid to see that!
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I do not know what is wrong with Scrabble Tile, but ClemSIN is really going to test the whole "Defense wins championships" saw. If they don't get him right ClemSIN has some losses in them.
Looks like BYU is the best team in the PAWCP South.
I could see bosox getting ready to post for a while, but it does look like the has their feature back. They will have to fix the defense before they get to the meat of the Big However Many East schedule.
Great game in Happy Valley. The White Out lived up to its reputation, and the game matched it. The leaping touchdown from the TE was my second.favorite play of the night. The Big However Many is going to be really interesting.
On one hand Bama looked beatable against an offensively challenged Florida. On the other, they won and I cannot shake the feeling that Satan is going to take the game to tell his team, I told you you weren't as good as your press clippings and no one will come within twenty of them for the rest of the year.
I was watching the IU game and, first, the targeting ejection of IU's stud linebacker clearly changed the game, and all i could picture was cap going nuts in his mom's basement. Second at one point I heard "Irving Poindexter is running loose in the secondary" and I thought, there is a sentence i never thought I'd hear. Turns out IU has a wr whose last name is Ervin-Poindexter. Too bad.
There is a chance we could go into the Meatchicken game with both unbeaten. Schedule is doable, though we are at IU the week before and Meat has Whisky.
Tulsa let me down
Wait for November 20. We'll have your back. Actually, 10/30 should do you right first.
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Meanwhile the team laid an literal egg against Oregon.
A literal egg? I would've paid to see that!
A thesaurus would have been cheaper.
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Meanwhile the team laid an literal egg against Oregon.
A literal egg? I would've paid to see that!
A thesaurus would have been cheaper.
Then you should invest in one.
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Meanwhile the team laid an literal egg against Oregon.
A literal egg? I would've paid to see that!
A thesaurus would have been cheaper.
Then you should invest in one.
I have Noam Chomsky on speed dial.
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Meanwhile the team laid an literal egg against Oregon.
A literal egg? I would've paid to see that!
A thesaurus would have been cheaper.
Then you should invest in one.
I have Noam Chomsky on speed dial.
Well, most of your posts make as much sense as Colorless green ideas sleep furiously, so I am not that surprised.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
Not the first time. It ran through East Lansing and Iowa City in 2015.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
Not the first time. It ran through East Lansing and Iowa City in 2015.
No. Michigan State reached only the final four, not the championship game.
Iowa got only to the BIG title game and lost to MSU.
It would be good for the league to have some fresh faces in the CFP, maybe even two the same year.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
Not the first time. It ran through East Lansing and Iowa City in 2015.
No. Michigan State reached only the final four, not the championship game.
Iowa got only to the BIG title game and lost to MSU.
It would be good for the league to have some fresh faces in the CFP, maybe even two the same year.
Well, it sure the hell didn't pass through Columbus in 2015.
I would love to see the, Bama and ClemSIN outside looking in, in favor of new blood. Georgia, Oregon and MSU i count as new blood, even if they have each been in the playoffs once. 🖊 State or Iowa would be good. I think ClemSIN looks unlikely. There is plenty of precedent for the Committee to look past early season issues to pick a team playing well at the end (as in the in 2014) but not with ClemSIN's schedule. They won't sniff a top 25 team until the South Atlantic League championship game. Pretty much any one loss Power 4 team have a better resume.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
Not the first time. It ran through East Lansing and Iowa City in 2015.
No. Michigan State reached only the final four, not the championship game.
Iowa got only to the BIG title game and lost to MSU.
It would be good for the league to have some fresh faces in the CFP, maybe even two the same year.
Well, it sure the hell didn't pass through Columbus in 2015.
Ohio State won the 2015 National Championship, the first one.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
heh
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
heh
I would have included Michigan except for obvious reasons
It
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I'll be in Ann Arbor at the end of October for Northwestern-Michigan game. While I made the plans back in July, I held off on getting tickets. As Michigan has improved each week, and seems a lot better than most thought they'd be, I had the pleasure of seeing ticket prices going up each week. I finally pulled the trigger and wound up at $200 for tix I could have had a couple of weeks earlier for $100. At least I managed to get a reasonably priced hotel room, something I wasn't expecting. For graduation though, I'll probably have to stay in Toledo if I want to get a reasonably priced hotel room.
Whaddayagonnado.
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Looks like BYU is the best team in the PAWCP South.
Would be if BYU played in the Pac12.
Sigh.
And you never lent creedence to my opaque posts of many a year ago.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
I generally thought of Columbus as a good piss stop on the long road to the CFP Championship on a longer trip that usually ended in Tuscaloosa.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
Not the first time. It ran through East Lansing and Iowa City in 2015.
No. Michigan State reached only the final four, not the championship game.
Iowa got only to the BIG title game and lost to MSU.
It would be good for the league to have some fresh faces in the CFP, maybe even two the same year.
Well, it sure the hell didn't pass through Columbus in 2015.
Ohio State won the 2015 National Championship, the first one.
But both the Big However Many Championship and the playoff game for MSU were also in 2015. I think. I have no memory of the playoffs that year. I assume we won.
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I'll be in Ann Arbor at the end of October for Northwestern-Michigan game. While I made the plans back in July, I held off on getting tickets. As Michigan has improved each week, and seems a lot better than most thought they'd be, I had the pleasure of seeing ticket prices going up each week. I finally pulled the trigger and wound up at $200 for tix I could have had a couple of weeks earlier for $100. At least I managed to get a reasonably priced hotel room, something I wasn't expecting. For graduation though, I'll probably have to stay in Toledo if I want to get a reasonably priced hotel room.
Whaddayagonnado.
You could always try Hell.
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
You're quacking me up, cap.
Hooray for Captain Cargo
The Elbanese Predictor
Does a nice job picking victors
Hooray
Hooray
Hooray
HEH
How's it goin cap?
I understand there's Duck running amok in Columbus
Buckeyes can't quite catch them.
I'm not the predictor I used to be Rich. Had a stroke 3 months ago that left me unable to see or walk and I'm still trying to master the fine art of motor controls. So I'd be happy to simply walk amok. Vision came back whike I was still in the hospital but it was, and still is somewhat, double vision. It has been getting better so I don't spend a lot of time staring into the mirror any more.
And I can walk, albeit shakily, without a walker. Even though the doctors said they weren't sure if I'd ever be able to walk again. They are all still somewhat in disbelief at my progress, but I told them then they didn't know me. They said I was pushing too hard in rehab but what choice did I have? They're jokes were terrible. :-)
Mowed the yard three weeks ago on the riding mower. Wife drew the line at me trying the push mower.
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
Not the first time. It ran through East Lansing and Iowa City in 2015.
No. Michigan State reached only the final four, not the championship game.
Iowa got only to the BIG title game and lost to MSU.
It would be good for the league to have some fresh faces in the CFP, maybe even two the same year.
Well, it sure the hell didn't pass through Columbus in 2015.
Ohio State won the 2015 National Championship, the first one.
But both the Big However Many Championship and the playoff game for MSU were also in 2015. I think. I have no memory of the playoffs that year. I assume we won.
I see the issue. When I said "Not the first time" I was referring to your first time in the BCS era comment, not the first time for the playoffs.
But then, we are no longer in the BCS era, are we?
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For the first time in the BCS era the path to the CFP Championship seems unlikely to pass through
Columbus
Will the Lion,the Hawkeye,Sparty, et al be able to handle the pressure.
Not the first time. It ran through East Lansing and Iowa City in 2015.
No. Michigan State reached only the final four, not the championship game.
Iowa got only to the BIG title game and lost to MSU.
It would be good for the league to have some fresh faces in the CFP, maybe even two the same year.
Well, it sure the hell didn't pass through Columbus in 2015.
Ohio State won the 2015 National Championship, the first one.
But both the Big However Many Championship and the playoff game for MSU were also in 2015. I think. I have no memory of the playoffs that year. I assume we won.
I see the issue. When I said "Not the first time" I was referring to your first time in the BCS era comment, not the first time for the playoffs.
But then, we are no longer in the BCS era, are we?
But we are, as defined as Championship Games.
Ohio State has played in Five.
No one else in the BIG has been in one.
Now it looks like that is going to change.
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
You're quacking me up, cap.
Hooray for Captain Cargo
The Elbanese Predictor
Does a nice job picking victors
Hooray
Hooray
Hooray
HEH
How's it goin cap?
I understand there's Duck running amok in Columbus
Buckeyes can't quite catch them.
I'm not the predictor I used to be Rich. Had a stroke 3 months ago that left me unable to see or walk and I'm still trying to master the fine art of motor controls. So I'd be happy to simply walk amok. Vision came back whike I was still in the hospital but it was, and still is somewhat, double vision. It has been getting better so I don't spend a lot of time staring into the mirror any more.
And I can walk, albeit shakily, without a walker. Even though the doctors said they weren't sure if I'd ever be able to walk again. They are all still somewhat in disbelief at my progress, but I told them then they didn't know me. They said I was pushing too hard in rehab but what choice did I have? They're jokes were terrible. :-)
Mowed the yard three weeks ago on the riding mower. Wife drew the line at me trying the push mower.
Holy shit.
I had no idea I figured your recent absence was covid or boredom or whatever.
Cap I've always known you to be a tenacious SOB, I identify, so I know you'll get back to throwing high and tight fastballs again and soon.
All the best wishes for a full and complete and quick return to health and being that pain in the ass I've known for over 25 years.
Rich
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
You're quacking me up, cap.
Hooray for Captain Cargo
The Elbanese Predictor
Does a nice job picking victors
Hooray
Hooray
Hooray
HEH
How's it goin cap?
I understand there's Duck running amok in Columbus
Buckeyes can't quite catch them.
I'm not the predictor I used to be Rich. Had a stroke 3 months ago that left me unable to see or walk and I'm still trying to master the fine art of motor controls. So I'd be happy to simply walk amok. Vision came back whike I was still in the hospital but it was, and still is somewhat, double vision. It has been getting better so I don't spend a lot of time staring into the mirror any more.
And I can walk, albeit shakily, without a walker. Even though the doctors said they weren't sure if I'd ever be able to walk again. They are all still somewhat in disbelief at my progress, but I told them then they didn't know me. They said I was pushing too hard in rehab but what choice did I have? They're jokes were terrible. :-)
Mowed the yard three weeks ago on the riding mower. Wife drew the line at me trying the push mower.
Well damn. I hereby retract the caps mom's basement crack. Get better! Go Lions!
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Get well soon, Cap.
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QB available
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-rankings-arizona-continues-sinking-as-new-no-1-team-emerges-in-the-bottom-25/
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
You're quacking me up, cap.
Hooray for Captain Cargo
The Elbanese Predictor
Does a nice job picking victors
Hooray
Hooray
Hooray
HEH
How's it goin cap?
I understand there's Duck running amok in Columbus
Buckeyes can't quite catch them.
I'm not the predictor I used to be Rich. Had a stroke 3 months ago that left me unable to see or walk and I'm still trying to master the fine art of motor controls. So I'd be happy to simply walk amok. Vision came back whike I was still in the hospital but it was, and still is somewhat, double vision. It has been getting better so I don't spend a lot of time staring into the mirror any more.
And I can walk, albeit shakily, without a walker. Even though the doctors said they weren't sure if I'd ever be able to walk again. They are all still somewhat in disbelief at my progress, but I told them then they didn't know me. They said I was pushing too hard in rehab but what choice did I have? They're jokes were terrible. :-)
Mowed the yard three weeks ago on the riding mower. Wife drew the line at me trying the push mower.
Well damn. I hereby retract the caps mom's basement crack. Get better! Go Lions!
Jesus don't go totally soft on me. but thanks for the good wishes. Besides, the only way I could get down in my mother's basement is to fall down the stairs.
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
You're quacking me up, cap.
Hooray for Captain Cargo
The Elbanese Predictor
Does a nice job picking victors
Hooray
Hooray
Hooray
HEH
How's it goin cap?
I understand there's Duck running amok in Columbus
Buckeyes can't quite catch them.
I'm not the predictor I used to be Rich. Had a stroke 3 months ago that left me unable to see or walk and I'm still trying to master the fine art of motor controls. So I'd be happy to simply walk amok. Vision came back whike I was still in the hospital but it was, and still is somewhat, double vision. It has been getting better so I don't spend a lot of time staring into the mirror any more.
And I can walk, albeit shakily, without a walker. Even though the doctors said they weren't sure if I'd ever be able to walk again. They are all still somewhat in disbelief at my progress, but I told them then they didn't know me. They said I was pushing too hard in rehab but what choice did I have? They're jokes were terrible. :-)
Mowed the yard three weeks ago on the riding mower. Wife drew the line at me trying the push mower.
Holy shit.
I had no idea I figured your recent absence was covid or boredom or whatever.
Cap I've always known you to be a tenacious SOB, I identify, so I know you'll get back to throwing high and tight fastballs again and soon.
All the best wishes for a full and complete and quick return to health and being that pain in the ass I've known for over 25 years.
Rich
Thanks Rich, you know me well. Too well :-)
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Get well soon, Cap.
Thanks Dude. Shit like this will wake you up a bit.
Ironic because for the first month after the "episode" all I seemed to do was sleep.
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"Gentlemen, Chicolini here may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot. But don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot."
You're quacking me up, cap.
Hooray for Captain Cargo
The Elbanese Predictor
Does a nice job picking victors
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How's it goin cap?
I understand there's Duck running amok in Columbus
Buckeyes can't quite catch them.
I'm not the predictor I used to be Rich. Had a stroke 3 months ago that left me unable to see or walk and I'm still trying to master the fine art of motor controls. So I'd be happy to simply walk amok. Vision came back whike I was still in the hospital but it was, and still is somewhat, double vision. It has been getting better so I don't spend a lot of time staring into the mirror any more.
And I can walk, albeit shakily, without a walker. Even though the doctors said they weren't sure if I'd ever be able to walk again. They are all still somewhat in disbelief at my progress, but I told them then they didn't know me. They said I was pushing too hard in rehab but what choice did I have? They're jokes were terrible. :-)
Mowed the yard three weeks ago on the riding mower. Wife drew the line at me trying the push mower.
Well damn. I hereby retract the caps mom's basement crack. Get better! Go Lions!
Jesus don't go totally soft on me. but thanks for the good wishes. Besides, the only way I could get down in my mother's basement is to fall down the stairs.
Oh, I will still tell you when you are being a dumbass. But that was gratuitous.
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Cap you are needed on the MLB forum
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EVENTUAL 2021-2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 31, Nebraska 10
First, a bone to pick with Sparty. This is going to be a striped game, meaning alternating sections in green and white. Can we have one great college tradition that is not bastardized by every other college? The White Out is special, Striping looks desperate. Anyway, while Nebraska looked better against OU than they have shown before, I think that was an anomaly. Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner Kenneth Walker III should find some room to run. Payton will be a Thorne in the side of the Nebraska secondary all day. Martinez is a big threat for Nebraska, but I do not see much else special offensively from them. So, I think our defense will be up to the task, especially at home.
Georgia 35, Vanderbilt 6
The more I watch ClemSIN the more I wonder how good the Georgia defense actually is. Pretty damned good I think, but we will not know for sure for a few more weeks.
the Pennsylvania State University 45, New City U 3
I think the Nittany Kitties are the best team in the Big However Many right now. I may still have my doubts about Clifford and the offense, but they seem to be more than adequate to score enough with that defense. Villanova should not be even a speed bump.
Wisconsin 24, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 17
Out of curiosity. Until recently Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie played Purdue every year. Which meant every other year, Purdue came to South Bend. With its band. With the drum. Just when did the entrance tunnel to the field shrink? One upping bastards. Anyway, Wisky has practiced defensively against Coan quite a bit, right?
Texas A&M 27, Arkansas 21
Arkansas pantsed Texas, but as usual for this time of year, have otherwise played cupcakes. TAMU struggled against Colorado and otherwise have played no one. So, my original view of TAMU is where it started the year, while Arkansas is a little more positive. I will still take TAMU.
ClemSIN 13, the North Carolina State University 0
The offense cannot be that bad, can it? Seriously? The defense is top flight, though.
Meatchicken 31, Rutgers 20
Hey, look who is unbeaten! No, not Meatchicken, they should be unbeaten given their schedule. RUTGERS! Sure, they haven
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Meatchicken 31, Rutgers 20
Hey, look who is unbeaten! No, not Meatchicken, they should be unbeaten given their schedule. RUTGERS! Sure, they haven not played anyone, Temple, Cuse and Delaware, but you never think of Rutgers as being the type of team that beats everyone they should. They have been pretty good defensively, even if offensively they have not shown much. Meatchicken has an impressive running game and defense, so far, and enough of a passing game to get by.
the 40, Akron 17
This should be a chance to get the apostrophe s defense right, but then I said that last week. Something seems just
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the 40, Akron 17
This should be a chance to get the apostrophe s defense right, but then I said that last week. Something seems just off about them and they are playing way below their talent level. Henderson can cure a lot of ills, though. He can be the Zeke they have been missing since their National Championship. But that defense
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So three periods also breaks it.
Woke Forest 24, Virginia 20
WtFU may be the biggest threat to ClemSIN in their half of the South Atlantic League, quite a fat since they let their best running back walker over to Eat* Lansing to become the first Heisman Trophy winner in MSU history. Virginia looked good up against UNC until they got just gassed from trying to keep up.
Maryland 24, Kent 21
Baby Tag is good. Kent is bad.
Iowa State 24, Baylor 14
For what it is worth, my greatest hope for this year is that we have as new a set of playoff teams as possible. Teams in once, like Oregon or Georgia or Eventual 2021 2022 National Champion Michigan State are fine. But enough of the, Alabama, ClemSIN and Oklahoma. Despite the loss toIowa, I still have some hopes that ISU will be able to win the Pure Prairie League.
West Virginia 30, Oklahoma 24
Calling it. A lot of people have looked at the, and ClemSIN and even Alabama and said hmmm, but they should be looking at Oklahoma in the same way too. They really have not played well, and their quarterback has looked, well, rattled. They are ripe for an upset.
University of California** 31, Oregon State 21
So, is there a QB controversy at SC? Dart looked like he had a better handle on running the offense than Slovis, but that is one game and I assume that Slovis was starting for a reason. What is clear, and what needs fixed for the Trojenz going forward, is their reliance on the Student Body Nowhere run game. Dart or Slovis cannot fix that.
Duke 35, Kansas 14
This game should clearly be played in short pants.
* I caught the typo. I am just claiming this trademark for Restaurant Week in the greater Lansing area.
** Southern
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Stroud is out for the against Akron. Not sure who starts. They are giving his shoulder rest, though they claim it is not serious.
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Stroud is out for the against Akron. Not sure who starts. They are giving his shoulder rest, though they claim it is not serious.
If Stroud s errant accuracy is not caused by an arm injury then tOSU has a much more serious problem.
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They'rrrrrre, ....ummm..... not so great it seems Tony.
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Probably a fine coming for storming the field though.
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El Capitan, our National Treasure (Ignore Lime's review)
Sorry to hear of your stroke and glad to see you back on Elba.
Hoping you have a full and complete recovery and you are
able to do all the things you were able to do before.
The recovery road is long, but as you told your doctors,
"You don't know me!"
I am proud to say I know something about you!
All the best, stay safe and enjoy your Lions!
DeeJ
Thanks DJ, I'm not quite done yet. :-)
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Looks like RU is finally competitive in the big 10. Tough loss to Mich.
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The wheels really fell off the Wolverines offense in the second half. Not that they weren't pretty wobbly in the first half. :-)
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Nice win by BC.
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And then there's Minnesowda.
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Winzawin.
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Though it was a pretty cool punt return strategy.
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They'rrrrrre, ....ummm..... not so great it seems Tony.
ClemSIN meet fork.
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What does ClemSIN have to do to drop out of the Top 25?
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Looks like RU is finally competitive in the big 10. Tough loss to Mich.
Congratulations on the cover
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EVENTUAL 2021-2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 35, Western Kentucky 20
Granted, our putrid second half offensive performance was rescued by a trick and a series of fortunate events (probably would not have worked if the punter had not punted to the wrong side of the field, away from his team apostrophe s coverage) but winzawin as I always say. I look for Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner Kenneth Walker III and Walter Peyton Manning Thorne to get back on track. Thorne has a real connection with Reed (they grew up together) and both Reed and Nailor have shown that they are dynamic players with the ball in their hands. Defensively, we are not as strong as the old No Fly Zone years, but we are strong up front and I think the secondary is growing up. While they are a Gang of 6 School with a 1 and 2 record, WKU has played both Army and Indiana tough, so it is not a cake walk.
Alabama 35, Old Missississippi 31
23 and 0 and counting. Satan has never lost to a former assistant. I do not think Kiffin is the one to break that streak. (I think that will happen later this year. Not to give away my picks, but the ex-assistant has a name that rhymes with Smirby Kart) I also think that second half against Florida as just what Satan needed to kick his team in the ass. Old Mississippi has a strong run game, and Bama has been vulnerable to the run, at least against Florida, so I expect some drama.
Iowa 27, Maryland 14
It would not surprise me to see Iowa lose this one. Or if you prefer, Maryland to win it. Mini Tug has been really good this year, and Iowa has some offensive issues that a strong defense has covered so far. Maryland is 4 and 0 with one good OOC win, but this begins a stretch of games where we will really find out about them. Six of their next seven are against teams currently, or who were once, ranked in the Top 25. I think realistically they have a successful season with two or three wins in that stretch.
Georgia 20, Arkansas 10
So, it turns out Arkansas is real despite my previously expressed doubts. I have reservations about both Texas and TAMU, but they are solid teams and Arkansas handled them easily. But you know who else it turns out is real despite my previously expressed doubts? Georgia
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Georgia 20, Arkansas 10
So, it turns out Arkansas is real despite my previously expressed doubts. I have reservations about both Texas and TAMU, but they are solid teams and Arkansas handled them easily. But you know who else it turns out is real despite my previously expressed doubts? Georgia apostrophe s defense. 77 total yards. I do not care if it is Vanderbilt or the Chicago Bears. That is impressive.
Florida 35, Kentucky 10
Theoretically, Kentucky a potential playoff team, being in first place in the God apostrophe s Conference East. Theoretically, I am a potential millionaire until I check my Powerball ticket.
Meatchicken 17, Wisconsin 10
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Meatchicken 17, Wisconsin 10
/he final score is not indicative of how close the game was is a stupid cliche. Wisky has offensive issues that a real good defense cannot hide, and it starts with a quarterback who has thrown more touchdown passes to the other guys than his own. Wisky apostrophe s defense poses a challenge, and I think as the year goes on and the competition improves, teams will work on shutting down the Meatchicken run game and force them to pass, which worked well for Meats against Rutgers. I am not sure Meats has the passing attack to take on tougher teams than they have played, but Wisky has shown essentially nothing offensively and Meatchicken has a good defense.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 31, Cincinnati 27
OLotPT is unbeaten without being really impressive. They laid the wood to Wisky Saturday but the final score is not indicative of how close the game was. I like what I have seen of Cinci. Well coached, talented. I just think OLotPT is a bit better in terms of talent. I wonder, though, what happens if Cinci wins this and runs the table. Is this the year a Gang of Six team can edge into the playoffs? It is not hard to see a bunch of two loss conference champs, like 2007, since the only super teams I have seen are in God apostrophe s Conference. Would an unbeaten Cinci, with two wins over quality Power Four teams, be more playoff worthy than, say, a two loss Oklahoma or the? Both of which, by the way, I am calling. Also, technically, I have rhetorically made the Pure Prairie League in a Gang of Six Conference, but that is really premature to do until Okie and Texas actually depart.
Woke Forest 24, Louisville 14
It looks like Wake Forest is the best hope for the South Atlantic League to make the playoffs, unless you count Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie. So far, thanks to ClemSIN and its extended run of excellent quarterbacks, it is one of the two conferences to make the playoffs every year. Outside of a team winning all its games, or the calendar turning back to 2007, they are out this year. The strength of schedule just will not support a one loss team from that conference.
Colorado 31, University of California* 27
SC still cannot run the ball. That results in too much pressure on whoever the quarterback is. Personally I would go with Dart because he is the future, but if you are an interim coach who already knows will not get the fulltime job you probably just want to get wins to impress someone with a head coach vacancy down the line and let the future take care of itself. What happened to SC? They could not even lick the Beavers. A series of bad coaching hires since Pete Carroll left? No wonder trojanhorse has been AWOL.
the 35, Rutgers 24
Did I read that right? The has fired the Pope? Talk about arrogance! Anyway, Henderson Henderson Henderson. That should open up the passing game. Defensively, stopping the aptly named Zips may provide a breather and some confidence but it does not change the underlying issue. Also, I guess at this point it is necessary to question the apostrophe s internal dynamics and cohesiveness. I do not think Rutgers has the offensive firepower to take full advantage of the apostrophe s issues.
Syracuse 27, Florida State 13
Holy shit FSU is bad. What the Hell has happened to them? Mike Norvell was given a vote of confidence by the AD after the third loss. You know what that means. With Helton already gone, he is the clear leader in the Most Fired sweepstakes.
Kansas State 27, Oklahoma 24
Look, Okie is not that good. I have seen them play a couple times, and they are not that good. Granted, I have more respect for Nebraskas defense after the second half last week, but still. They are not that good. They have been fortunate to get out with wins the last two weeks. The offense is pedestrian at best. I think I am going to pick against them repeatedly until they eventually lose twice.
Oregon 31, Stanford 20
Whatever goes on with the, that win over Fresno State is currently giving the Ducks two quality out of conference wins, which is good because right now they have one quality game before the season ends and any slip up is going to hurt the playoff run. A loss to, say, Stanford, could well drop them behind other 1 loss conference champs (including should it transpire, the) that pay tougher conference schedules. So, there can be no let down for the Quackers, and Stanford is just good enough to be dangerous.
Oklahoma State 24, Baylor 21
Say! Look who are both 4 and 0! That is nice for them. I do not think either of them are in it for the long haul as playoff threats, but they can both put together nice seasons. I like the Okie State defense.
the Pennsylvania State University 35, Indiana 24
The Big However Many East is looking like the second best division in CFB this year, after God apostrophe s Conference West. It is hard for me to see anyone getting out unscathed, but if any team can, it is the Nittany Kittens. Clifford is not the Big Red Dog I thought he was. Not that he is great, but he can make the throws and run the team. I have been skeptical about Indiana, and it looks like I was right. Pennix has had serious issues, and the team around him just is not that good.
Boston College 31, ClemSIN 10
I guess BC is also in the running for the South Atlantic League championship through four games. ClemSIN is now battling injuries as well as incompetence on offense. It is only four games and can turn around, but it is looking like I have never been so wrong about a non MSU player as I was about Scrabble Guy.
the Louisiana State University 27, Auburn 20
Probably the fifth and sixth teams in the God apostrophe s Conference Legends Division. Ole Mississippi State is in for a rough year. I discount the Auburn let down against Georgia Southern. That kind of thing is always troubling, but rarely matters in the games the team gets up for. The game is at the LSU, though, and I still think Nix is bad.
University of California** 31, the Arizona State University 27
Not that anyone but me is staying up late enough to see this one. That loss to Fresno State is going to hurt UCLA. I think there was some undue hype for ASU at the start of the season, but they have been about what I expected. Pretty good, but not Top 25. It is UCLA apostrophe s toughest remaining game other than both contests against Oregon. They get ASU at home, so I will use that as the decision point.
* Southern
** at Los Angeles
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I can't say enough about how impressed I am about the Georgia defense. I mean,,, WOW.
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I can't say enough about how impressed I am about the Georgia defense. I mean,,, WOW.
I think they are slipping. They gave up twice as many yards this week compared to last week. Keep this up and soon they will give up a rushing tiuchdown.
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Meanwhile.the the we are seeing today is the the we were expecting. 10/30 is going to be interesting.
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23 points in five games, they're certainly looking like the bully on the boardwalk.
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So with Oregon's loss and Cinci's win, what will it take for a Gang of 5 team to make the playoffs? Will the Committee view an unbeaten Cinci as comparable to a one loss power conference team? Do they need some two loss teams to win conferences to get in?
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So with Oregon's loss and Cinci's win, what will it take for a Gang of 5 team to make the playoffs? Will the Committee view an unbeaten Cinci as comparable to a one loss power conference team? Do they need some two loss teams to win conferences to get in?
A more timely question is will Cincy crack the top five in the polls after 4 weeks of games?
If so then running the table will be a ticket to the Playoffs.
Which is to say the cart is still in front of the horse.
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So with Oregon's loss and Cinci's win, what will it take for a Gang of 5 team to make the playoffs? Will the Committee view an unbeaten Cinci as comparable to a one loss power conference team? Do they need some two loss teams to win conferences to get in?
A more timely question is will Cincy crack the top five in the polls after 4 weeks of games?
If so then running the table will be a ticket to the Playoffs.
Which is to say the cart is still in front of the horse.
No, but they will after 5 weeks.
Do you think an unbeaten Cinci would get 8n the playoffs over a 9nce beaten Big However Many champ or.a one loss Oklahoma? Or a Bama/Georgia with one loss? Because right now those would be your four playoff teams. I think Cinci will need more power conference chaos to get in. Which is possible, the Big However Many is going to be tough, and Oklahoma unimpressive. Cinci has the OLofPT and Indy wins, but any of the teams.i identified will have more impressive, and more impressive wins.
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Is Kenny Pickett charging into the Heisman picture? I never would have thought Narduzzi would have that level of offense.
Between Oregon spitting the bit at Stanford and UCLA losing at home, looks like the PAWCP is sitting out the playoffs again. Even if O runs the table, they will not have another ranked team to play. I think even a one loss the gets in ahead of them.
ClemSIN is still not playing offense. It remains hard to believe how poor they have been.
Kiffin IS a clown.
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So with Oregon's loss and Cinci's win, what will it take for a Gang of 5 team to make the playoffs? Will the Committee view an unbeaten Cinci as comparable to a one loss power conference team? Do they need some two loss teams to win conferences to get in?
Without any so-called major teams remaining in their schedule they will probably have wait fir the inevitable attrition of the top 7 teams. And they will need to remain impressive in their wins. But yeah, it's possible.
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Hard to believe that Clemson's offense is that bad. But results certainly point that direction. Is it the OL or skill set or play calling? I just haven't watched them enough to form an opinion.
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Being the stat hound everyone knows I am I did some quick preliminary checking of Clemson's offense(dragged most of this off of a CBS sports piece) and these are the sticking points that stood out to me.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/the-monday-after-why-the-clemson-offense-has-struggled-during-lackluster-start-to-2021-season/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/the-monday-after-why-the-clemson-offense-has-struggled-during-lackluster-start-to-2021-season/)
Clemson is only averaging only 1.39 yards before contact that flat out sucks. That stat ranks 13th in the ACC with ony Louisville sucking worse. But to further flesh out the stat that puts Clemson at 102nd nationally.Youch!
Furthermore Clemson's young QB has been getting sacked a lot and pressured a lot, they're 81st nationally in preventing sacks and again on a bottom end of the ACC ranking 9th. The QB has been pressured on 29.9% of his pass attempts which puts them at again broken record here 9th in the ACC. That ranks them 61st nationally, and he has had an average of 2.46 seconds to throw the ball which is 81st nationally, 11th in ACC gee I bet they wish they were 9th again like everything else. :-)
So I've come to the conclusion that the problem is that they can't block anyone which leads to the inevitable statement of, they can't pass and they can't run.
Because they're OL sucks.
Somebody else mentioned, Herbstreet I think, they lacked a good slot receiver. Thar rings atrue to me as I remember how devastating Hunter Renfro was to defenses when he was there.
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On the flipside I was impressed with the way Bama's OL played yesterday. They've got room for improvement but their technique is excellent. Couldn't get a yard late in the game though and you could see that it really irked Saban. LOL
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Hard to believe that Clemson's offense is that bad. But results certainly point that direction. Is it the OL or skill set or play calling? I just haven't watched them enough to form an opinion.
Well like most offenses it starts with the line. But what I have seen the skill positions are weaker than any time in a decade .
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So with Oregon's loss and Cinci's win, what will it take for a Gang of 5 team to make the playoffs? Will the Committee view an unbeaten Cinci as comparable to a one loss power conference team? Do they need some two loss teams to win conferences to get in?
A more timely question is will Cincy crack the top five in the polls after 4 weeks of games?
If so then running the table will be a ticket to the Playoffs.
Which is to say the cart is still in front of the horse.
No, but they will after 5 weeks.
Cincinnati is now number 5
With 8 weeks to go they are in the playoff if they remain unbeaten and are a conference champion.
What could possibly go wrong?
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So if Michigan keeps winning they cant go ahead of Cincy?
Likely a moot point, I know, but for sake of discussion....
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So if Michigan keeps winning they cant go ahead of Cincy?
of course it can
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There are a few good games, but on the whole a lot of duds, and some teams taking the week off. So, this will be short. Which should make it easier to keep the apostrophes out of it
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There are a few good games, but on the whole a lot of duds, and some teams taking the week off. So, this will be short. Which should make it easier to keep the apostrophes out of it
Son of a warthog.
There are a few good games, but on the whole a lot of duds, and some teams taking the week off. So, this will be short. Which should make it easier to keep the apostrophes out of its or ellipses or quotes. OR DASHES
EVENTUAL 2021-2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 35, Rutgers 24
I do not think Rutgers of last Saturday is what Rutgers actually is. They played Meatchicken very tough, after all, and I do not think the gap between the and Meat is that big. I would expect the Scarletts to be at their peak after the embarrassment at the hands of the. As fore us, while WKY has been a good offensive team all year, our defense is a weak point. But, Rutgers has not been all that good offensively, even apart from the shutting them down. Offensively, we have a bevy of outstanding skill position players, Reed and Nailor, Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner Kenneth Walker III, Peyton Thorne, and I think we can outscore Rutgers even if the defense gives up some points.
the Pennsylvania State University 17, Iowa 14
Iowa has shown a good defense, but a very limited offense that lives off turnovers. They have averaged something like 40 yards on their scoring drives. If the Pennsylvania State University can avoid turnovers, their offense should be just enough to take this.
Texas 27, Oklahoma 24
I am still thinking that Oklahoma is not that great of a team. They have not played a single game that makes me think they can go through the year unbeaten. So, I will continue to pick against them when the opponent is credible. I WILL be right some day, just you watch.
Arkansas 27, Old Mississippi 14
The hype train for both teams got derailed last Saturday, but they remain solid teams. Or, I think Arkansas is. Until last week Ole Miss had not really played anyone with a pulse. Despite being nut slammed by what may be the best defense I have seen in years, I think Arkansas has made their rebuild from doormat to competitive but not as good as Bama, which is the best they can hope for in the God apostrophe s Conference West right now.
the 52, Maryland 14
Has the fixed its defensive woes yet is the question. Offensively, Stroud looked like the rest did him some good, and now that they have located a running back with explosive potential, the the skill position players are as good as any in the nation. Some worries about the O Line, and still worries about that defense, which should be good enough to hold up, at least until October 30. The stretch from October 23 to the end of the year is going to be fun in the Big However Many East.
Georgia 24, Auburn 3
The received wisdom is that the God apostrophe s Conference West is the strongest division in football, but I wonder how much of that is due to the fact that Alabama is observably better than any of the Big However Many East teams. I think that the BHM East has more quality teams, The GC West has Alabama and fewer bad teams. Just a thought. Anyway, as I mentioned above I think Georgia has the best defense I have seen in CFB in years. And Auburn still has Stevie Nix playing quarterback. He is better at home, and Auburn is at home, but the Georgia defense is not going to give him room for the handful of good plays he pulls out of his ass among the butt load of horrid ones.
University of Kentucky 31, the Louisiana State University 21
LSU probably should not have hired Gene Chizik as their head coach.
Meatchicken 24, Nebraska 21
Nebraska lost to Illinois. But actually, since then, they have played pretty good football, pushing a couple of Top 15 teams to the brink, with some special teams gaffes playing a role in those losses. I think they can play Meatchicken close. The Meatchicken defense is pretty good, though, and the offense looks like it can wear you down, even with the passing game still a question mark.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 27, Virginia Tech 24
Virginia Tech had its moment in the sun with the upset of UNC, although that may not be the impressive win I thought it was at the time. V Tach has been in meh mode from the last four or so years the Beamer drove them until now. I know my VTU booster friend is questioning how long Fuentes can have the Hokies at a 7, 8 win level and keep his job. He is not on the Most Fired List with Mike Norvell yet, but it bears watching. They may want a Casino Royale style gritty reboot of the franchise. Anyway, OLotPT has enough talent to take this even if, overall, they have not been really impressive all year.
Alabama 49, Texas A and M 14
Yeah, I do not think the playoffs is in the cards for the Aggies this year. They still have PMS (Post Monds Syndrome) big time. Again, I think that close call to Florida was the match Satan needed to light the fire under his team. Right now, it looks like we get both Georgia versus Alabama for the God apostrophe s Conference championship and a rematch in the playoffs. I do not see anyone on either team schedule that I think is more than a hard long shot to take them down.
Stanford 27, the Arizona State University 24
You know, if you used a random name generator to come up with the name of a college football quarterback for the crappy novel you are writing, it would take you through a lot of names that you would reject, sure, but I guarantee that you would stop when you hit Tanner McKee. Game is in the desert, but the temperatures for the weekend are only supposed to be in the low 80s, so that is one home field advantage gone.
University of California* 35, Utah 17
The entire PAWCP is looking like a shit show these days, and the PAWCP South is looking like the shit shows shit show. I had expectations of both of these teams once upon a time. Not any more.
Cincinnati Day School 42, Temple 21
I am not sure that Temple is not the toughest team left on the Bearcat schedule, which is the primary argument against their playoff chances. I still think that, even unbeaten, they need for there to be a couple of two loss conference champs to get in. Reserving two spots for God apostrophe s Conference, that leaves two open spots. I actually think it is more likely for the Big However Many to also get two schools in the playoffs than for Cincinnatil to get in. I mean, if say a once beaten the beats a previously unbeaten Iowa in the Championship game, would the runner up get in before an unbeaten Cinci, given the schedule? It would help them if OLotPT and Indiana kept slash started winning games.
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College football, still the most corrupt sport of all.
And you yahoos support it.
Dopes.
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I think God is back in place in Heaven
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I worry about our offense. We didn't have a sustained touchdown drive all game.
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Nicky's defense looked like crap.
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Five BIGs in the top ten.
October 30 is going to need a lot of popcorn.
PSU/OSU
MSU/UM
Iowa/Wisc
Not to mention adding cocktails in for Georgia/Florida
Cincinnati keeps getting a lot of love from the voters.
Wonder if the Committee will feel the same way.
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"Cincinnati keeps getting a lot of love from the voters.
Wonder if the Committee will feel the same way."
I doubt they will be ranked ahead of any undefeated SEC or Big Ten team, but there will probably only be one SEC and maybe two B10 when the poll comes out. They need ND to keep winning if they have any hope at all IMO. If Kentucky sneaks up and beats Georgia...or if Oklahoma gets bumped off.
The Mich/MSU game is starting to loom large in that respect too AND Iowa doesn't have to play either of them OR the Buckeyed.
Bottomline I just don't think Cincy has the scheduling to pull off a berth, but shit happens.
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"Cincinnati keeps getting a lot of love from the voters.
Wonder if the Committee will feel the same way."
I doubt they will be ranked ahead of any undefeated SEC or Big Ten team, but there will probably only be one SEC and maybe two B10 when the poll comes out. They need ND to keep winning if they have any hope at all IMO. If Kentucky sneaks up and beats Georgia...or if Oklahoma gets bumped off.
The Mich/MSU game is starting to loom large in that respect too AND Iowa doesn't have to play either of them OR the Buckeyed.
Bottomline I just don't think Cincy has the scheduling to pull off a berth, but shit happens.
Well, one team from God's Conference is a point in their favor. Georgia winning the championship game likely knocks a twice beaten Alabama out.
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Half way through the season: Michigan State, Kentucky and Woke Forrest are bowl eligible. Ohio State, Alabama and ClemSIN are not.
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What in the name of Norm Snead and Brian Piccolo is going on?
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Half way through the season: Michigan State, Kentucky and Woke Forrest are bowl eligible. Ohio State, Alabama and ClemSIN are not.
Wow. Think of the money that will be lost. This can't be.
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What in the name of Norm Snead and Brian Piccolo is going on?
Other than Duke, none of their remaining games are cake walks. Army, UNC, NC State, BCU and ClemSIN.
Meanwhile, Alabama and the have the same path back to the playoffs: win out or go home. The same with Oklahoma, although one loss could be survivable for them.
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Cool trivia: who was the coach the last time Kentucky started the season 6 - 0?
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Has to be Bear Bryant
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Has to be Bear Bryant
It was the 1950 season.
Bryant and Kentucky ended the Oklahoma 31 game winning streak in the 1951 Sugar Bowl.
At the time it was the longest such streak in college footbal.
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Has to be Bear Bryant
71 years ago. You'd think blind chance would have it happen at least once since.
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A lot of teams I would normally cover on byes. The, Meatchicken, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, the Pennsylvania State University, USC whose name I no longer feel like making fun of out of pity, and Maryland are all off this week.
EVENTUAL 2021-2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 35, Indiana 17
It is a game I worry about; granted, I would worry more with last year model of Pennix and receivers. This year, IU has not really scored against anyone, except WKU for whom defense is optional. Our pass defense has not been that great all year, but I do think we are growing. Looked very strong in the second half of the Rutgers game. We have been bend but do not break all year and the problem with that is eventually you break. I do not think this is the week for that, though. Offensively, we have been scoring on big plays all year. I think the IU D will be unable to stop our mighty seeds steeds. Between Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner III, Reed and Nailor we have I think the second best roster of skill players in the Big However Many behind the. Keep the safeties back to stop Reed and Nailor, III will gash you. Sneak them forward to stop III and both Reed and Nailor can take the top off. I think we can tear the IU D to shreds.
Cincinnati 35, Central Florida 14
To make the playoffs, I really think that Cinci needs help. I do not care where they are in the polls; the playoffs are a different matter. I think they need a combination of two of Iowa and Georgia to win their conferences and Oklahoma to lose twice. A one loss conference champion from those conferences gets in, and a one loss runner up, say Iowa or Georgia, would get in ahead of Cincinnati. Yes, it would be helpful for them if OLotPT or Indiana keeps or starts winning, but really they needed teams like UCF to present a challenge in conference to build strength of schedule.
Oregon 27, University of California* 10
See, here is the issue with the Ducks. If the gets in and they do not there will be a lot of pundit wailing and gnashing of teeth and fun times with the haters on this forum, but the committee has its rules and processes and they follow them. Head to head, like being a conference champion, only matters if teams are judged by the Committee to be substantially equal. Other than that, it is just a quality win for one team and a quality loss for the other. Yes, they beat the, but a one loss Big However Many Champ the will not only have a better, for lack of a good term and the ability to cut and paste quote marks, loss, they will have wins over four teams currently in the Top 10. Oregon will have a worse loss and in all likelihood only one win over a Top 15 team. Alabama losing does bring them more solidly into the playoff picture, though, since the committee to date has never elevated a two loss Power 5 school over a one loss Power 5 team with a solid record. I would still question whether even as a Conference Champion they would get in over a one loss God apostrophe s Conference runner up in Georgia, so they should be rooting for Iowa and Georgia.
Arkansas 27, Auburn 13
Boy, If I was an Auburn fan Nix would make me tear my hair out. I have not seen so frustrating a college QB in years, not even that kid who played QB for Oregon a couple years ago who never played to the level of his tools and I am certain will flame out in the pros. I forget his name. Bobby Hebert, or something ellipses omitted.
Florida 28, the Louisiana State University 13
Well, Ogeron had one great year. No one can take that away from him. Well, the NCAA can, sure, but there is nothing I am aware of on the horizon.
Texas 41, Oklahoma State 38
I keep forgetting Okie State is also unbeaten. I suppose I should factor them in my calculations for the playoffs, like Woke Forest or if I am being honest with myself Michigan State and I am not ever being honest with myself on the score deal with it, but like Woke Forest I do not see them finishing up unbeaten. Texas
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Texas fuck s collapse last week was painful.
Oklahoma 42, Texas Christian University 28
I wonder where Rattler will transfer to in the portal. The Heisman Winning First Round Draft pick hype train for him was a pretty sort one, no? U of A is looking for, well anyone who knows how to play the sport but their QB got hurt. He is a Phoenix kid, maybe some near to home cooking would help.
Georgia 27, Kentucky 10
The last time Kentucky won its first 7 games was also in 1950. The next time is not in the foreseeable future. Georgia is the best defense in the country. And while I remain skeptical of the old adage that defense wins championships and think it is especially nonsense in this day and age, a great defense and a real good offense sure the hell can win a championship.
Iowa 27, Purdue 24
Fun fact: Jeff Brohm is 3 and 1 against Iowa while at Purdue. Fun fact the second, he is about to be 3 and 2. Actually, this could well be a trap game for Iowa, coming off the emotional win over the Pennsylvania State University and Purducken coming off a bye week. I have it as a close call for them, of their remaining games it seems like the one most fraught with peril for Iowa. Until losing to the Big However Many East champ, that is.
ClemSIN 20, Syracuse 17
ClemSIN cannot be so bad, and fallen so far, as to lose to Syracuse. Can they? Personally, I think it is all a plot to keep their OC from going to LSU or USC next year.
Utah 27, Arizona State 21
Arizona States only loss this year has been when they ventured up to the SLC area. They are going there again. I just do not think they are good enough to go through the rest of the non-Oregon section of their year unscathed.
Tennessee 37, Old Mississippi 27
This is the only game between teams with three runs of double letters in their name, outside of the Egg Bowl. That counts for something. Doesn
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Doe snot it? Anyway, despite being beaten be a sneaky good Pitt and pantsed by Florida, Tennessee has been pretty good ever since they brought in that Hooker. Kiffin is rumored to have an interest in the LSU job.
NorthCarolina State 31, Boston College 17
Technically a one loss BC should be in the running for the South Atlantic League Not Any Good Division and technically both halves of the South Atlantic League are Not Any Good Divisions this year. But they have beaten two of the worst BCS teams, the worst God apostrophe s Conference team, and a tube of toothpaste.
Pittsubirgh 35, Virginia Tech 17
VTU helped keep Cinci playoff dreams alive last week. I have not seen Pickett charging** into the Heisman conversation, but he is putting up some impressive numbers for the Fightin Nards.
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** Yes I am repeating that joke and I intend to run it into the damned ground. Do you really expect better from me?
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Posterity.
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Discuss the state of College Football.
Is that state Alabama or Florida? Texas?
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"Cincinnati keeps getting a lot of love from the voters.
Wonder if the Committee will feel the same way."
I doubt they will be ranked ahead of any undefeated SEC or Big Ten team, but there will probably only be one SEC and maybe two B10 when the poll comes out. They need ND to keep winning if they have any hope at all IMO. If Kentucky sneaks up and beats Georgia...or if Oklahoma gets bumped off.
The Mich/MSU game is starting to loom large in that respect too AND Iowa doesn't have to play either of them OR the Buckeyed.
Bottomline I just don't think Cincy has the scheduling to pull off a berth, but shit happens.
Well, one team from God's Conference is a point in their favor. Georgia winning the championship game likely knocks a twice beaten Alabama out.
Now is when we see if Saban's defense is really that bad or if they've been doggin their prep.
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Where the hell did this LSU offense come from? Defense looking good too.
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Hoosiers hangin tough
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Winzawin. I was worried when I read our unis for the game were called the "stormtrooper" uniforms. No wonder we could not shoot straight all day.
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Actually I thought I was watching PSU for a second. Ya gotta win tose types of games though when you're offense isn't doing much. Nice defense though. It might just win you guys a championship.
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Somebody needs to perform the heimlich maneuver on the Hawkeyes. They seem to be choking.
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I have never met the Mississippi State QB so I can say I don't like him.
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Somebody needs to perform the heimlich maneuver on the Hawkeyes. They seem to be choking.
They have been offensively challenged and lived off turnovers. I thought the Purducken's offense wouldn't be good enough to change that, but they were today.
Who is going to be the first team to score 14 against Georgia?
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Oklahoma looks way, way better with Caleb Williams.
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Somebody needs to perform the heimlich maneuver on the Hawkeyes. They seem to be choking.
The who?
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The former #2 team.
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Somebody needs to perform the heimlich maneuver on the Hawkeyes. They seem to be choking.
The who?
They were #2 but the poll voters won't get fooled again.
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The former #2 team.
On the basis of what? Edging Penn State?
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The former #2 team.
On the basis of what? Edging Penn State?
Ask the AP voters and the coaches.
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Fore!!!!! Tennessee should expect a hefty fine for their fans imitation of Jan 6th
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I just found out tonight I get most of the college networks in my laptop using my neighbors Wi-Fi which by he gave me the password for. For some reason FS1 seems to be the only one I can't pull in. I watched the last quarter of Miss/Tenn. Quite a riotous ending😁😁
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Who takes a golf ball to a Tennessee Football game?
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Well it WAS the right color.
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Saban had his crew ready for the first time this year. He must've cut down on the AFLAC commercials and concentrated on his overpriced job. .
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Who takes a golf ball to a Tennessee Football game?
Well, you never know when you will get a clear shot at Kiffin.
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Well it WAS the right color.
A Delt
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Ed Ogeron out at LSu, though he apparently will coach the year out.
Edit: Apparently it is a can't keep his dick in his pants sort of issue.
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Meatchicken 35, Northwestern 17
Beating them is way more fun when they are coming in riding high. Northwestern is probably the biggest disappointment in the Big However Many West. Meat has been improving their passing attack each week, but I do not think they will need it. The Battle for the Inaugural George Jewett trophy should be over quick.
Pittsburgh 27, ClemSIN 21
Well, Clemson at least has a defense, so they cannot be counted out of any game. Still, that offense is bad. How did this happen, the way they recruit? They were a monumentally bad kicker away from overtime against the Cuse.
the 35, Indiana 10
The IU D looked much better Saturday than I thought it would be. Granted, our O Line is our weak point, but they lived in our backfield all game. Offensively, though, they do not have much. Not sure if Pennix is going to be available, but I do think the has put most of its defensive issues behind them, and their offense, specifically their line, is stronger than anything Indiana has faced to date.
the Pennsylvania State University 27, Illinois 3
I do not know if Clifford will be healthy this week, but if I were PSU, and I had any issues with his health, I would sit him. Illinois is awful. If you cannot beat them with your defense and your second string quarterback, you are in trouble.
Iowa State 24, Oklahoma State 20
Okie State has snuck up the rankings. Sure, part of that may be that Texas continues to be what they were under Herman, no where near as good on the field as they should be, but Okie State is playing good defense. I do not think they will go though the year unbeaten. Hell, I don't think they make it to Bedlam unbeaten.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 27, University of Southern California 20
I do not think OLofPT is all that, but they should be able to handle the imploding wreck of a team USC has become. I do not envy Vrabel the task he is going to have rebuilding the program.
Alabama 45, Tennessee 21
There are not enough range balls in the world to make a difference here. Besides, it would be a long throw, the game is in Tusks Are Loosa. Hooray for Captain Spaulding, the African Explorer. Did someone call me Schnorrer? Hooray hooray hooray. Sorry. Anyway, I think Alabama still has some defensive liabilities.
Old Mississippi 42, the Louisiana State University 27
Among Ogeron
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I'll be in Ann Arbor for that one.
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b]Old Mississippi 42, the Louisiana State University 27[/b]
Among Ogeron's sins: he supposedly hit on the pregnant wife of an LSU official. Which would not matter if they were 6 and 0, but they aren't. I think under the circumstances it is a mistake to keep him on for the rest of the year, but here he is. I note that among the candidates for the LSU head coaching job is Mel Tucker. I am not worried, Tucker has too much integrity to abandon a program he is in the early stages of building to jump for more money somewhere else. Oh, wait. We may need to pay him more.
Maryland 27, Minnesota 17
Maryland has run into some issues, being the sixth or seventh best Big However Many East team. But the BHME is pretty loaded, and Maryland needs this to have a shot at Bowl Eligibility in the Bowl Eligibility Bowl, last week of the season, against Rutgers.
Wisconsin 17, Purducken 13
I think Purducken being in the Top 25 is a definite over reaction to one game. They have scored 13 points in half of their games, and before Saturday their signature win was a home win over the Beavers. Wisky may be offensively challenged, but there is no issue with their defense.
University of California at Los Angeles 27, Oregon 21
Oregon has looked like a top 10 team exactly once all year, against the in Columbus. Since then, they let a putrid Arizona team hang around way longer than they should have, lost to Stanford, and barely got by Cal. I am not sure when the reckoning is coming, but it is coming.
Mount Union 45, Heidelberg 21
Just to note a couple of things. First, Heidelberg
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Mount Union 45, Heidelberg 21
Just to note a couple of things. First, Heidelberg's nickname is the very Sig Romburgian the Student Princes. Second, their win last week over Otterbein was for something called the Rhine River Cup, which is odd because the only river either school is near is the Sandusky River. Third, there are not a lot of games this week I am really interested in. Two of those facts are pretty cool.
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I'll be in Ann Arbor for that one.
Where does your rooting interest lie in that one, son or daughter?
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That's always a tough question. I probably don't root at all. It's a blast going to the game, so I'll enjoy that.
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Yank had his emotions removed surgically after 2004 ALCS
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So, between USC, LSU and Wazoo, I am pretty sure Pullman will be the destination of choice.
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Some coaches like actual winters, I guess.
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Some coaches like actual winters, I guess.
Good God why?
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Hey our defense stopped em one time. Wow.
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Hey our defense stopped em one time. Wow.
What the fuck cap.
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Wait. 20-18 in NINE overtimes? WTF?
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And if you had Army-Wake UNDER 125 -
You lose!
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Obviously I want my beloved Spartans to win the Big However Many and go to the playoffs, but as a pure CFB fan I have to say I really want to see the's offense and Georgia
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Wait. 20-18 in NINE overtimes? WTF?
A DEEPLY FLAWED OT set of rules. And BORING.
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Wait. 20-18 in NINE overtimes? WTF?
A DEEPLY FLAWED OT set of rules. And BORING.
Not as flawed as the NFL, which are plain stupid.
In the NFL, you at least have to gain yardage, first.
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Obviously I want my beloved Spartans to win the Big However Many and go to the playoffs, but as a pure CFB fan I have to say I really want to see the's offense and Georgia
I too would love to see that. OSU has played one team with a pulse and lost. Their offense has racked up big numbers at the expense of some Sad Sacks whose combined record is 12/22. They may indeed have a good offense, they can't help it if their schedule is weakish so far. But their defense is not showing me a heckuva lot.
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Cap, Not to worry....looking ahead catches everyone once!
Is it true that between the 4 and 5th OT your HC was on the phone with LSU and USC?
Hope so, I've never liked him. Hope he takes our OC with him.
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Cap, Not to worry....looking ahead catches everyone once!
Is it true that between the 4 and 5th OT your HC was on the phone with LSU and USC?
Hope so, I've never liked him. Hope he takes our OC with him.
Better yours than mine.
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Obviously I want my beloved Spartans to win the Big However Many and go to the playoffs, but as a pure CFB fan I have to say I really want to see the's offense and Georgia
I too would love to see that. OSU has played one team with a pulse and lost. Their offense has racked up big numbers at the expense of some Sad Sacks whose combined record is 12/22. They may indeed have a good offense, they can't help it if their schedule is weakish so far. But their defense is not showing me a heckuva lot.
To be fair, the worst team 3 - 5 Indiana lost to is Penn State. The other four are currently ranked in the top 10.
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Eventual 2021-2022 national Champion Michigan State 27, Meatchicken 17
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqv48MwEbaQ
Do you have any idea how many times I have watched the Trouble With The Snap video on YouTube in the last few weeks? Actually, you probably do. Guess high. Anyway, Meatchicken has an explosive running game, but that plays into our defensive strength. I think we can get Meatchicken into more passing situations and control the line of scrimmage. Defensively, Meatchicken has a strong defense, but they really have not played anyone with a potent offense yet. Not that we have; it is not our or their fault that Washington and Miami were down this year. Anyway, we will see how they handle our big play capabilities. I foresee a huge day for Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner III, Reed and Nailor. And Thorne. Now that I think about it, 27 points is too few. 45 at least! Go for 2 because they will not let you go for 3! CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES! GRIND THEIR BONES INTO DIRT! MAKE THEM REGRET THAT THEY WERE EVER BORN!
The 35, the Pennsylvania State University 14
Stroud has gotten better each week, and the continues to have the best set of skill position players on offense in CFB for him to work with. That was a pretty strong IU defense they hung 54 on last week, look at the first half of the Cinci game and the game against us if you do not believe me. I think Pennsylvania State has a good defense, but I do question the health and efficacy of their offense. If Clifford is quote right unquote they can put up some points but not enough to take down the if the has its offense in gear. And, well, ILLINOIS? Seriously, ILLINOIS?
Georgia 28, Florida 10
Georgia still has not given up more than one touchdown in a game. That defense is fun to watch in action. Offensively I am not entirely sold on their quarterback play. It is efficient rather than great, and if the defense was any less stellar that could be an issue. But man that defense. Florida should have been their biggest in season challenge, but I just do not see their offense sustaining anything, and their defense is hardly special.
Oklahoma 42 Texas Tech 27
Why did they fire the coach? You are TEXAS TECH. You are in Lubbock. Kids are not playing for you because of your quality program, they are playing for you because they burned some bridges in Austin. 5 and 3 is not that bad given who and where you are. How do you not get to finish off the year? Anyway, that first half against Kansas should have taken the air out of the Let us Give the Heisman to Caleb Williams after a Game and a Half trial balloon, though in many respects the second half pumped a little more air into it. The press loves moments they can point to, and Williams delivered those.
Wisconsin 14, Iowa 13
If you can limit your turnovers, you can beat Iowa. I think Wisky can limit their turnovers. Still have to score some, though. Defense wins championships only if you have enough offense to allow your defense o win championships. Neither of these teams has shown that much, or really any, offense.
Indiana 20, Maryland 14
Seriously, how many teams would not have five losses with that schedule? I am not sure who their quarterback will be this week, they all took a pounding last week. I am picking this game on the IU D, last week notwithstanding.
University of Southern California 31, Tucson Central High 10
That would be an insult to Tucson Central High, if there was such a thing. There isn
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University of Southern California 31, Tucson Central High 10
That would be an insult to Tucson Central High, if there was such a thing. There is not. Maybe they should not have fired RichRod. Anyway, having UA on your schedule is like having a FCS school on it, or Kansas.
ClemSIN 3, the Florida State 2
OK, probably not that low scoring. But ClemSIN looks just lifeless and clueless on offense. They have line and trust issue. The vowel guy is focusing on the pass rush and not his reads, and the consonant guy who I am told is pronounced Puma chon, did not look any better last week, although he may start this Saturday. They have a world of talent there, but it is just not clicking. Florida State is worse off, though, and despite Pickett charging through them ClemSINs defense is still stellar.
Steelers 49, Dolphins 24
Speaking of Pickett, I had my first sustained look at him last Saturday, and he was pretty impressive against a tough ClemSIN defense. Miami has been competitive against the Carolina schools, even with King out, but outside of a directional school from Connecticut they have barely slowed anyone down all year, let alone stopped them. Pitt is two games clear of the rest of the South Atlantic League Coastal COASTAL? WHAT FUCKING COAST? RIVERS DO NOT HAVE COASTS! And they look a good bet to match with Woke or NC State in the GooGoo Nut Cluster Bar South Atlantic League Championship Game. Or whatever it is called.
Baylor 27, Texas 24
I had such hopes for Texas this year. Not sure why.
Auburn 34, Old Mississippi 27
I expect Kiffin to get the LSU job. He has been at Mississippi too long. Anyway, I have history of not being as high on Mississippi schools as others. They tended to play a lot of Austin Peays and build up unbeaten records, before getting wiped by the rest of God apostrophe s Conference. Mississippi did play a so so Louisville this year, and while they have struggled with Arkansas, who I think we thought too much of out of two games, and Tennessee, they did beat them, but I am staying on skeptic level. Auburn is at home, and the home Stevie B. Nix is the good Stevie B. Nix.
Oregon 35, Colorado 17
Yes, that the win is looking pretty good, but Oregon
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Oregon 35, Colorado 17
Yes, that the win is looking pretty good, but Oregons biggest problem is it is just one win, and the rest of their quality of opposition is wretched. If they were rolling over mediocre teams, that would be one thing, but they are not. They need to start being impressive over the likes of the Buffaloes.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 42, North Carolina 38
OLotPT has not looked impressive at any time this year, aside maybe from the last 10 minutes of the Wisky game, but they do keep winning. There were some people who thought, at the beginning of the year, that UNC might be Top 10, South Atlantic League Championship Game loser material. What were those idiots thinking?
Arizona State 31, Washington State 20
Can Jake Dickert keep the full time job at Wazzou? One thing we know for sure, he definitely has a shot...
Other references of things I suddenly realized I was channeling;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t7HD2xG92-0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsa0ar443SI
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Obviously I want my beloved Spartans to win the Big However Many and go to the playoffs, but as a pure CFB fan I have to say I really want to see the's offense and Georgia
I too would love to see that. OSU has played one team with a pulse and lost. Their offense has racked up big numbers at the expense of some Sad Sacks whose combined record is 12/22. They may indeed have a good offense, they can't help it if their schedule is weakish so far. But their defense is not showing me a heckuva lot.
Where did you get those numbers? The's opponent's overall record is 20 - 24. Not stellar, sure, but hardly PEA.
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Obviously I want my beloved Spartans to win the Big However Many and go to the playoffs, but as a pure CFB fan I have to say I really want to see the's offense and Georgia
I too would love to see that. OSU has played one team with a pulse and lost. Their offense has racked up big numbers at the expense of some Sad Sacks whose combined record is 12/22. They may indeed have a good offense, they can't help it if their schedule is weakish so far. But their defense is not showing me a heckuva lot.
To be fair, the worst team 3 - 5 Indiana lost to is Penn State. The other four are currently ranked in the top 10.
Fair enough.
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Obviously I want my beloved Spartans to win the Big However Many and go to the playoffs, but as a pure CFB fan I have to say I really want to see the's offense and Georgia
I too would love to see that. OSU has played one team with a pulse and lost. Their offense has racked up big numbers at the expense of some Sad Sacks whose combined record is 12/22. They may indeed have a good offense, they can't help it if their schedule is weakish so far. But their defense is not showing me a heckuva lot.
Where did you get those numbers? The's opponent's overall record is 20 - 24. Not stellar, sure, but hardly PEA.
Still sucks.
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Ut oh looks like a fumble
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No, he was in I think. Can't overturn that
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Watching this makes me realize how much I missed a real college season last year. The crowds are what makes it
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What time does the Molest Bowl between Pedophile State and O-buse State begin, tonight?
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WOOT!!!!!!!
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For the first time in the 20 + years I have been posting on this forum and its predecessor, when I say EVENTUAL ... HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER I may actually mean it.
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What time does the Molest Bowl between Pedophile State and O-buse State begin, tonight?
Blither away idiot. I care about nothing today, least of all you!
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You have a right to celebrate, Hairy. But perhaps spare a thought for all those broken-hearted folks in Ann Arbor.
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Tomorrow. Right now half my Facebook wants Harbaugh fired. I keep telling them Bo Schembechler is not walking through that door, but RichRod is available.
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Great win.
Most had them losing.
Way to go.
Rutgers.
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Can I take a moment away from my euphoria to say how fucking awesome Georgia s defense is?
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I take it The 300 vanquished the dark forces of Xerxes!
Thermopylae!
congrats boz
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Boy the Texas Tech coach should be fired for how he mishandled the end of the half.
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So next year Meatchicken is replacing their field turf with a new synthetic made from recycled cardboard. Because their team is ways better on paper.
I am officially worried about Purducken next week.
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So next year Meatchicken is replacing their field turf with a new synthetic made from recycled cardboard. Because their team is ways better on paper.
I am officially worried about Purducken next week.
So, you're saying Michigan is overrated and sucks.
Then why jump up and down like a weasel on steroids because your team won?
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So next year Meatchicken is replacing their field turf with a new synthetic made from recycled cardboard. Because their team is ways better on paper.
I am officially worried about Purducken next week.
So, you're saying Michigan is overrated and sucks.
Then why jump up and down like a weasel on steroids because your team won?
To rephrase the question as an answer: Why jump up and down like a weasel on steroids? Because my team won.
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For the first time in the 20 + years I have been posting on this forum and its predecessor, when I say EVENTUAL ... HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER I may actually mean it.
The kid has got some game.
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Can I take a moment away from my euphoria to say how fucking awesome Georgia s defense is?
Yes, and you're right.
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So next year Meatchicken is replacing their field turf with a new synthetic made from recycled cardboard. Because their team is ways better on paper.
I am officially worried about Purducken next week.
So, you're saying Michigan is overrated and sucks.
Then why jump up and down like a weasel on steroids because your team won?
To rephrase the question as an answer: Why jump up and down like a weasel on steroids? Because my team won.
Not bad. Personally I would have preferred the 4 letter abbreviation you and I generally use.
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Two great Big Ten games today.
Just outstanding.
Congrats to Michigan, PSU, MSU, and OSU for terrific hard-nose football.
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Any guesses on the initial committee rankings? #1 is obvious; if it is not Georgia, they are watching a different game than I am. Beyond that, it is a crap shoot.
My guess:
1. Georgia.
2. Oklahoma
3. Alabama - because the TAMU loss is a q un-q good loss, looking better every week.
4. the - bear in mind the loss to Oregon does not automatically put the Ducks ahead of the for the same reason Stanford is not ahead of Oregon. I think there is enough of a gap between the two teams that it will not come into play.
5. Michigan State. Of the other unbeaten teams, I think we have the best win and the best overall strength of schedule.
6. Cincinnati. The OLotPT win is quality, but no other win is impressive. (Well poor, poor Indiana)
7. Oregon - they have a problem with strength of schedule but they did finally push around a bas in conference center team.
8. Meatchicken
9. Woke.Forrest - have not lost yet, but as I have said before there is a difference between q un-q not lost yet and unbeaten.
10. OLotPT
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Here is a better question, maybe. Will anyone score two touchdowns against Georgia, before the God apostrophe s championship? Misery, Tennessee, Charleston Southern or Georgia Tech? I am saying no.
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EVENTUAL 2021-2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 35, Purducken 13
Words cannot express how much this game worries me. Purducken is a classic trap game, or would be if Maryland, yankguy possessive Maryland, was not also interposing between big games. They are just good enough to be a serious problem if we get caught looking, well, behind. My guess is Tuck keeps us on task. Even with Nailor iffy for the game with a bad hand, I think we can score often against a decent defense. Seriously, I Mean It This Year, Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner III probably will not hit for five touchdowns again, but I think we get the Peyton Thorne of the second half of Saturdays game, so a couple TD tosses to Reed get worked in. We remain highly vulnerable to the air, but that is not the shot and beer team strength. As an aside, I missed swathes of the game Saturday, and only now realized just where we had Meatchickens band sit. That is some Grade A Petty Ass Expert trolling right there.
Georgia 27, Misery 3
Somewhere along the line, Georgia is going to need its offense to score points. That is the thing about saying defense wins championships; there is a reason Iowa is setting in the west; you still have to score. So far Georgia has a competent offense which has been enough, but there should be a reckoning some time when the offense needs to step up. Granted, the Georgia defense is historically epic, but I would sooner trust Stetson Bennet IV to probate a will than lead a drive with the game on the line. I do not think there is any way that matters this week. Or next. Or, well, until they play I assume Alabama in the Goody apostrophe s Headache Powder God apostrophe s Conference Championship Game.
Woke Forrest 35, North Carolina 31
Fun fact. This game has zero impact on the South Atlantic League standings. It is officially Out of Conference, the teams agreed to play an OOC game every year when the SAL split them into different divisions. I think WF is a nice story, especially considering who is NOT running the ball for them, and Hartman will be the best QB on the field Saturday. They have a loss or two coming somewhere this year, but I am done picking UNC, under any circumstance.
the 49, Nebraska 17
Bo Pelini is not looking so bad, is he? Scott Frost is nearing the top of the Most Fired charts. But to paraphrase what I told my Meatchicken friends this week, Tom Osborn is not walking through that door. And neither are the relative level of recruits he used to get. The has players who are bigger, faster, stronger and better. Nebraska is at home, and they have played some tough games there, but the should handle them with ease.
Meatchicken 27, Indiana 7
Maryland spoiled the IU narrative last week but still, this will be the sixth team IU played who was ranked when they played them. They are also on a true freshman starting quarterback, against a really good defense that is likely to be angrier than a burlap bagful of wolverines that have been beaten with clubs by Lacedaemons.
the Pennsylvania State University 24, Maryland 13
PSU had a six quarters offensive nap when Clifford went out. He appears healthier now, and they did move the ball against the. They also have a really good red zone defense that kept the possessive scores down to field goals. I think with Clifford they are a decent offensive team with a stellar defense. I think Maryland is OK, maybe the fifth best team in the Big However Many East. But the gap between them and the top 4 looks pretty broad.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 35, Navy 14
This has often been a troublesome game for OLotPT, but not this year. Metaphorically Navy is about as seaworthy as the CSS H. L. Hunley. I am not sure why OLotPT has dropped so much in the playoff talks. Everyone seems to assume that they will not be in the picture, but their only loss is a pretty good one, and the Committee does look at how teams are playing NOW, rather than how they snuck through some games early in the year. It pains me to say it, but it would only take a mild amount of chaos, say a loss in the league championship game by the Big However Many East and a second Oregon loss, for them to be a serious contender.
ClemSIN 20, Louisville 13
Has anyone heard from jbott? He did not even surface when the lost to Oregon. I hope he did not load up on Nati Lights and roll the moped into a swamp somewhere.
Texas A and M 31, Auburn 20
Again, the Road Bo Nix is the Bad Bo Nix. This looks like the best game of the year on paper, and it could be, but somehow I am thinking TAMU strolls away with it early and Auburn makes the score respectable late.
Alabama 45, Playing out the String U 17
Boy, for years this was such a circle the calendar and make plans to make no plans kind of game, and for years it mostly lived up to expectations. Thanks, Ogeron! Not only are we going to have to double our coach possessive salary the CFB world is deprived of what should be a great game. Anyway, if anyone thinks Satan is going to take the foot off the gas just because LSU is coasting to the end, they do not know Satan.
Arizona State 27, University of Southern California 20
Winzawin, yes, but USC beat one of the worst Power 5 schools by only 7 points. 7. A lot of my ASU fan friends are bailing on Herm Edwards, especially after last week. The team seems unprepared and uninspired for important games, and it would not surprise me to see him gone by the end of the year, especially if there are any legs to the NCAA investigation. Still, USC is sleepwalking through this nightmare of a season and losing London for the year is a nail in a coffin for them.
Wisconsin 23, Rutgers 13
Wisconsin is winning the Big However Many West, despite starting the season 1 and 3 and having no offense to speak of, and they are definitely a threat to the East Champ. Just thought you should know.
West Virginia 31, Oklahoma State 24
Oklahoma State is not winning the Pure Prairie League, despite starting 6 and 0 and having a good defense. Just thought you should know.
Minnesota 23, Illinois 10
No team with that bad of an OOC schedule and who loses to a bad MAC team should be relevant this late in the year, but here we are. Minnesota is currently the leader of the Big However Many West. Granted, their last two games are Wisconsin and Iowa, which will resolve their issue one way or the other, but for now, they need to be taken seriously despite not being particularly good.
Iowa State 31, Texas 27
If games were only three quarters, Texas would be in the playoff picture. Wonder how big a 4th quarter lead they will hack up this week.
Oregon 31, Washington 13
The Ducks may have the best win of the playoff contenders, for now, but they also have the wurst loss and that will not get the sausage made. Washington has no offense to speak of.
Cincinnati 42, Tulsa 17
It is all about style points for the Three Ways now. See? they will say. WE ARE THREE POINTS BETTER THAN THE!
Bates 14, Bowdoin 10
Bates has one win this year, over Tufts. Tufts beat Bowdoin by 12. Bowdoin has one win this year, over Amherst. The Belles beat Bates by 8. That makes Bates 4 points better than Bowdoin, by my math. Those are my only two data points. Fun fact, in the first of the BBC games, played last week, Bates lost to Colby 10 to 2, which was totally worth sitting outdoors in the late October Maine weather to watch.
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Notable from the TV ratings last Saturday
MICH/MICHSTATE was the most watched game of the season with over 9 million viewers.
More proof that Fox was spot on in staging marquis matchups at noon.
Also a reminder to OSU fans that the UM/MSU rivalry is every bit as intense as OSU/UM( especially in the state of Michigan.)
OSU/ Penn State had over 7 million viewers making Saturday a banner day for the B1G.
That number could have been higher were it not for the WORLD SERIES which won the sports ratings of the day with over 10 million watching.
The Cocktail Party delivered 6 million + even though Georgia sealed its win over Florida in the second quarter.
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Pretty clear any of the first five teams that wins out is in the playoffs. After that?
Georgia is clearly in, even if they lose to Alabama in the God apostrophe s Conference Championship game.
Given where Alabama is ranked with one loss, it is possible that they could make the playoffs even with a loss to Georgia. It might take nothing more than the Big However Many West and PAWCP South winning their conference championships.
I was surprised that Oregon was above the, but first, winning out puts both in the playoffs, and I suspect the's strength of schedule would result in them flipping in the end, since the finishes with two top 7 teams and Oregon has... unranked Utah, probably twice.
Cincinnati needs a little help besides winning out. Granted there are two sure losses anong the five teams in front of them, but that is not enough. The and MSU will eliminate one team, but they also need Georgia to beat Alabama or a loss by Oregon or the MSU - the winner.
And then... Oklahoma. Cinci is a couple spots ahead of them now, but if Oklahoma wins out they will gain two (or three) wins against teams roughly equivalent in the rankings to Notre Dame, and a much stronger over all schedule. (The team between them is Michigan, which has a real tough road to the playoffs, involving beating the and MSU losing twice to get them in the conference championship.) I think an unbeaten Oklahoma jumps Cincinnati in the rankings.
Beyond the Top 8, I think you need chaos to get in. Woke running the table does not increase their strength of schedule much, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie needs some two loss conference champs.
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Here is an interesting question: if Oregon wins out and makes the playoffs, who represents the PAWCP in the Rose Bowl? I believe their deal allows them to take a PAWCP team, even if not in the Top 12, but who would that be? Utah would have five losses in that scenario - the three they have plus a regular season and championship game loss to Oregon. The only team, if the Ducks win out, that can have fewer than 4 losses is Arizona State but. I would put money on them losing one more time.
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Who would the Big ten rep be?
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Who would the Big ten rep be?
Well, one of the six teams in the Top 25, depending.
It is the winner of the Championship game, or next best team if the winner goes to the playoffs.
In my scenario Oregon wind the Championsip game and goes to the playoffs.
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EVENTUAL 2021-2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 35, Purducken 13
Words cannot express how much this game worries me. Purducken is a classic trap game, or would be if Maryland, yankguy possessive Maryland, was not also interposing between big games. They are just good enough to be a serious problem if we get caught looking, well, behind. My guess is Tuck keeps us on task. Even with Nailor iffy for the game with a bad hand, I think we can score often against a decent defense. Seriously, I Mean It This Year, Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner III probably will not hit for five touchdowns again, but I think we get the Peyton Thorne of the second half of Saturdays game, so a couple TD tosses to Reed get worked in. We remain highly vulnerable to the air, but that is not the shot and beer team strength. As an aside, I missed swathes of the game Saturday, and only now realized just where we had Meatchickens band sit. That is some Grade A Petty Ass Expert trolling right there.
Georgia 27, Misery 3
Somewhere along the line, Georgia is going to need its offense to score points. That is the thing about saying defense wins championships; there is a reason Iowa is setting in the west; you still have to score. So far Georgia has a competent offense which has been enough, but there should be a reckoning some time when the offense needs to step up. Granted, the Georgia defense is historically epic, but I would sooner trust Stetson Bennet IV to probate a will than lead a drive with the game on the line. I do not think there is any way that matters this week. Or next. Or, well, until they play I assume Alabama in the Goody apostrophe s Headache Powder God apostrophe s Conference Championship Game.
Woke Forrest 35, North Carolina 31
Fun fact. This game has zero impact on the South Atlantic League standings. It is officially Out of Conference, the teams agreed to play an OOC game every year when the SAL split them into different divisions. I think WF is a nice story, especially considering who is NOT running the ball for them, and Hartman will be the best QB on the field Saturday. They have a loss or two coming somewhere this year, but I am done picking UNC, under any circumstance.
the 49, Nebraska 17
Bo Pelini is not looking so bad, is he? Scott Frost is nearing the top of the Most Fired charts. But to paraphrase what I told my Meatchicken friends this week, Tom Osborn is not walking through that door. And neither are the relative level of recruits he used to get. The has players who are bigger, faster, stronger and better. Nebraska is at home, and they have played some tough games there, but the should handle them with ease.
Meatchicken 27, Indiana 7
Maryland spoiled the IU narrative last week but still, this will be the sixth team IU played who was ranked when they played them. They are also on a true freshman starting quarterback, against a really good defense that is likely to be angrier than a burlap bagful of wolverines that have been beaten with clubs by Lacedaemons.
the Pennsylvania State University 24, Maryland 13
PSU had a six quarters offensive nap when Clifford went out. He appears healthier now, and they did move the ball against the. They also have a really good red zone defense that kept the possessive scores down to field goals. I think with Clifford they are a decent offensive team with a stellar defense. I think Maryland is OK, maybe the fifth best team in the Big However Many East. But the gap between them and the top 4 looks pretty broad.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 35, Navy 14
This has often been a troublesome game for OLotPT, but not this year. Metaphorically Navy is about as seaworthy as the CSS H. L. Hunley. I am not sure why OLotPT has dropped so much in the playoff talks. Everyone seems to assume that they will not be in the picture, but their only loss is a pretty good one, and the Committee does look at how teams are playing NOW, rather than how they snuck through some games early in the year. It pains me to say it, but it would only take a mild amount of chaos, say a loss in the league championship game by the Big However Many East and a second Oregon loss, for them to be a serious contender.
ClemSIN 20, Louisville 13
Has anyone heard from jbott? He did not even surface when the lost to Oregon. I hope he did not load up on Nati Lights and roll the moped into a swamp somewhere.
Texas A and M 31, Auburn 20
Again, the Road Bo Nix is the Bad Bo Nix. This looks like the best game of the year on paper, and it could be, but somehow I am thinking TAMU strolls away with it early and Auburn makes the score respectable late.
Alabama 45, Playing out the String U 17
Boy, for years this was such a circle the calendar and make plans to make no plans kind of game, and for years it mostly lived up to expectations. Thanks, Ogeron! Not only are we going to have to double our coach possessive salary the CFB world is deprived of what should be a great game. Anyway, if anyone thinks Satan is going to take the foot off the gas just because LSU is coasting to the end, they do not know Satan.
Arizona State 27, University of Southern California 20
Winzawin, yes, but USC beat one of the worst Power 5 schools by only 7 points. 7. A lot of my ASU fan friends are bailing on Herm Edwards, especially after last week. The team seems unprepared and uninspired for important games, and it would not surprise me to see him gone by the end of the year, especially if there are any legs to the NCAA investigation. Still, USC is sleepwalking through this nightmare of a season and losing London for the year is a nail in a coffin for them.
Wisconsin 23, Rutgers 13
Wisconsin is winning the Big However Many West, despite starting the season 1 and 3 and having no offense to speak of, and they are definitely a threat to the East Champ. Just thought you should know.
West Virginia 31, Oklahoma State 24
Oklahoma State is not winning the Pure Prairie League, despite starting 6 and 0 and having a good defense. Just thought you should know.
Minnesota 23, Illinois 10
No team with that bad of an OOC schedule and who loses to a bad MAC team should be relevant this late in the year, but here we are. Minnesota is currently the leader of the Big However Many West. Granted, their last two games are Wisconsin and Iowa, which will resolve their issue one way or the other, but for now, they need to be taken seriously despite not being particularly good.
Iowa State 31, Texas 27
If games were only three quarters, Texas would be in the playoff picture. Wonder how big a 4th quarter lead they will hack up this week.
Oregon 31, Washington 13
The Ducks may have the best win of the playoff contenders, for now, but they also have the wurst loss and that will not get the sausage made. Washington has no offense to speak of.
Cincinnati 42, Tulsa 17
It is all about style points for the Three Ways now. See? they will say. WE ARE THREE POINTS BETTER THAN THE!
Bates 14, Bowdoin 10
Bates has one win this year, over Tufts. Tufts beat Bowdoin by 12. Bowdoin has one win this year, over Amherst. The Belles beat Bates by 8. That makes Bates 4 points better than Bowdoin, by my math. Those are my only two data points. Fun fact, in the first of the BBC games, played last week, Bates lost to Colby 10 to 2, which was totally worth sitting outdoors in the late October Maine weather to watch.
So you're saying Bates will be Master at the end of the game
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13 minutes left - up ten
Purdue should have gone for it on 4th and goal from the 7. (actually could have run the ball on third - knowing they were going on 4th)
They have just set themselves up to lose 35-34. Nicely done.
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Sheesh.
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Jeff the Giantkiller.
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We remain highly vulnerable to the air,
This, it turns out, was accurate. but that is not the shot and beer team strength.
This, it turns out, was not.
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EVENTUAL 2021 2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 34, Maryland 17
Sure, we gave up 500 yards in the ir and 40 points to a team with a middling passing attack that had scored 13 points in half its 8 games. Sure that would worry a lesser man, and might give cause when going up against a Maryland team with a decent quarterback, or at least decently familied quarterback. But I am not a lesser man, and MD is giving up about 150 a game on the ground. We run Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner III around, through and over them all day. Anyway, one silver lining in the Purducken loss is fewer people are assuming the Louisiana State Seminary of Learning and Military Academy, or as it is more commonly known LSSLMMA, is going to throw unlimited money at Tucker.
The 45, Purducken 13
Can PU crush the dreams of three top 5ish teams in one year? No. The has an elite offense with multiple big play options and an improving defense. It will come down to the PU offense and, last week notwithstanding, I just do not see enough offense there,
the Pennsylvania State University 27, Meatchicken 21
They are really, really really going to regret that Illinois loss. I think they are a good team, and with Clifford being back and healthy, I think they have enough offense to support their strong defense. I still think being stout against the run can thwart the Meatchicken offense, provided you have a decent pass defense which we apparently do not.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 33, Virginia 28
OLotPT is on the skirts of the playoffs, and there is enough chance of chaos for them to get in, so they better lose soon. Well, it would be grimly amusing to watch them go up against that Georgia defense, but I would rather take a pass on that. Anyway, they keep winning without being great, but there are a lot of teams you can say that about this year, and a couple of them are likely to be in the playoffs.
Georgia 31, Tennessee 14
I am calling it. Someone is getting a garbage time second touchdown against Georgia before the end of the year, and it might as well be the Vols.
Oklahoma 35, Baylor 17
Baylor has been a fast turn around, but I have gone from thinking the Rattler lead Sooners are going to lose twice and miss the playoffs to thinking the Williams lead Sooners will go unbeaten and make the playoffs.
ClemSIN 42, Yukon 3
If your offense cannot get right against UConn, your offense cannot get right period.
Oregon 35, Washington State 17
Wazzou will take their shot, but this is not the week the lucky Ducks suck enough to lose their second game.
Wisconsin 23, Northwestern 13
Wisconsin is winning the Big However Many West, just as everyone predicted at the start of the year. What a long strange trip it has been, though. But they are back where they belong, back truckin on with a good defense and a bad offense. That bad offense will not matter this week.
Auburn 31, Ole Mississippi State 24
I have said this before, but the Mississippi schools get a lot of love simply for being in God apostrophe s Conference. Picking Auburn is a crap shoot, since the odds are fairly strong that their quarterback will have a flatly awful game. But the Home Bo Nix is the Good Bo Nix. Generally.
Texas A and M 42, Old Mississippi 30
I have said this before, and I think fairly recently, the but Mississippi schools get a lot of love simply for being in God apostrophe s Conference. I think the TAMU defense can corral the Old Mississippi offense.
Minnesota 24, Iowa 17
I am not sure how you remain ranked after losing to Bowling Green and Illinois in the same year, but Minnesota is not only ranked, it is ranked above a two loss Iowa that beat PSU. Still, Iowa has no offense to speak of, so Minnesota just needs to hold on to the ball and tough it out.
Pittsburgh 49, North Carolina 42
Again, I am done with picking UNC to do anything.
University of Soutb]hern California 31, California 13
Boy the Trojans season is broken beyond measure, but then Cal lost to Tucson Prep so this one is within USC s reach.
Woke Forrest 42, North Carolina State 38
Losing to that other Carolina school probably takes Woke out of the playoffs anyway. They still have the South Atlantic League title to play for since losing to in conference UNC was actually losing OOC. I like the Woke offense, although they could be better at running back.
Colby 31, Bowdoin 17
The Fighting Chamberlains* came within a point of Mastering Bates last week, but the Mules are a different matter.
Alabama 45, New Mexico State 3
I thought this sort of game in God apostrophe s Conference was reserved for the penultimate week of the season. Anyway, here for the sake of completion, I might as well get to the other playoff possibilities.
Cincinnati 27, University of South Florida 13
Cinci needs to run up the score on some of these teams, because they are not going to be beating anyone of note, especially with the Ponies spitting the bit the last two weeks. And by the way I have been to Tampa and it is not SOUTH Florida. I am calling Bull on this.
* Searching on Google informs me the Bowdoin team name is actually the Polar Bears but I never believe anything I find in a Google search that does not coincide with my pre existing belief system.
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Let's send congrats to Rutgers for the B1G win. Many had picked Michigan to win it all, but there is pandemonium in Piscataway, today!
https://www.onthebanks.com/2021/11/7/22768757/rutgers-field-hockey-wins-big-ten-championship-michigan-tayla-parkes-meredith-civico-kerrie-burns (https://www.onthebanks.com/2021/11/7/22768757/rutgers-field-hockey-wins-big-ten-championship-michigan-tayla-parkes-meredith-civico-kerrie-burns)
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Let's send congrats to Rutgers for the B1G win. Many had picked Michigan to win it all, but there is pandemonium in Piscataway, today!
https://www.onthebanks.com/2021/11/7/22768757/rutgers-field-hockey-wins-big-ten-championship-michigan-tayla-parkes-meredith-civico-kerrie-burns (https://www.onthebanks.com/2021/11/7/22768757/rutgers-field-hockey-wins-big-ten-championship-michigan-tayla-parkes-meredith-civico-kerrie-burns)
Any loss in any sport by Meatchicken warms the cockles of my heart.
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Well, Meatchicken ranks ahead of Meatchicken State:
The Michigan-Michigan State discussion really started last week, CFP selection committee chair Gary Barta told reporters Tuesday night. I would just summarize that the committee went back and forth and, really, the consensus was that Michigan was probably a more complete team.
https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2021/11/why-the-college-football-playoff-committee-ranked-michigan-ahead-of-michigan-state.html (https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2021/11/why-the-college-football-playoff-committee-ranked-michigan-ahead-of-michigan-state.html)
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If we win out it will not matter.
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If we win out it will not matter.
I think that whole committee thing is a scam
But that's because there's so much money involved.
And the sport is so corrupt
But do try winning out.
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Why are we not surprised?
https://news.yahoo.com/georgia-football-star-adam-anderson-arrested-on-rape-charge-033151378.html (https://news.yahoo.com/georgia-football-star-adam-anderson-arrested-on-rape-charge-033151378.html)
But. of course most CFB fans will only be concerned with how this may effect the betting odds.
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Georgia 31, Tennessee 14
I am calling it. Someone is getting a garbage time second touchdown against Georgia before the end of the year, and it might as well be the Vols.
I would not be surprised to see the Vols score 14 points before halftime.
And yes, I know.
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You were spot on in your evaluation Stevo. Nice job.
The Vols could have had 2 or even 3 more TDs if Hooker was a little more accurate. As I suspected the Georgia defense was a little raw in pass coverage. On the surface that would seem to be encouraging to other teams as apossible weakness they might exploit in future games. But I suspect all this game has done is make the Dawg defense a better unit. As there is nothing like like fire to season a young player.
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You were spot on in your evaluation Stevo. Nice job.
The Vols could have had 2 or even 3 more TDs if Hooker was a little more accurate. As I suspected the Georgia defense was a little raw in pass coverage. On the surface that would seem to be encouraging to other teams as apossible weakness they might exploit in future games. But I suspect all this game has done is make the Dawg defense a better unit. As there is nothing like like fire to season a young player.
Well, Georgia has Charleston Southern and the Wreck left before the God apostrophe s Conference playoffs. They do not really need a fire.
I am pissed at your boys, though when they came out of the first quarter with 3 points and one embarrassingly bad fake field goal I figured they were fucked. But I had hope.
We need to get really healthy and much better in the secondary within the next week. We could barely stop Meatchicken and Maryland and did not stop Purducken at all. The has three eventual first round receivers - and I will bet at least one more on the bench - and I have no clue how we can cover them. Get in Strouds face, and pray I guess. And outscore them.
Hard to see a way out.of the Playoffs for Georgia, given their remaining schedule - they are in with one loss. Alabama, Oregon and the win out and they are in. (For the record, us too). But that last spot is interesting. Unbeaten Cinci? One loss Pure Prairie League champ? Two loss Alabama? The committee has never considered a two loss team the equal of a one loss team despite ample opportunity to do so (cf., The over PSU).
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EVENTUAL 2021 2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 34, Maryland 17
Sure, we gave up 500 yards in the ir and 40 points to a team with a middling passing attack that had scored 13 points in half its 8 games. Sure that would worry a lesser man, and might give cause when going up against a Maryland team with a decent quarterback, or at least decently familied quarterback. But I am not a lesser man, and MD is giving up about 150 a game on the ground. We run Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner III around, through and over them all day. Anyway, one silver lining in the Purducken loss is fewer people are assuming the Louisiana State Seminary of Learning and Military Academy, or as it is more commonly known LSSLMMA, is going to throw unlimited money at Tucker.
The 45, Purducken 13
Can PU crush the dreams of three top 5ish teams in one year? No. The has an elite offense with multiple big play options and an improving defense. It will come down to the PU offense and, last week notwithstanding, I just do not see enough offense there,
the Pennsylvania State University 27, Meatchicken 21
They are really, really really going to regret that Illinois loss. I think they are a good team, and with Clifford being back and healthy, I think they have enough offense to support their strong defense. I still think being stout against the run can thwart the Meatchicken offense, provided you have a decent pass defense which we apparently do not.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 33, Virginia 28
OLotPT is on the skirts of the playoffs, and there is enough chance of chaos for them to get in, so they better lose soon. Well, it would be grimly amusing to watch them go up against that Georgia defense, but I would rather take a pass on that. Anyway, they keep winning without being great, but there are a lot of teams you can say that about this year, and a couple of them are likely to be in the playoffs.
Georgia 31, Tennessee 14
I am calling it. Someone is getting a garbage time second touchdown against Georgia before the end of the year, and it might as well be the Vols.
Oklahoma 35, Baylor 17
Baylor has been a fast turn around, but I have gone from thinking the Rattler lead Sooners are going to lose twice and miss the playoffs to thinking the Williams lead Sooners will go unbeaten and make the playoffs.
ClemSIN 42, Yukon 3
If your offense cannot get right against UConn, your offense cannot get right period.
Oregon 35, Washington State 17
Wazzou will take their shot, but this is not the week the lucky Ducks suck enough to lose their second game.
Wisconsin 23, Northwestern 13
Wisconsin is winning the Big However Many West, just as everyone predicted at the start of the year. What a long strange trip it has been, though. But they are back where they belong, back truckin on with a good defense and a bad offense. That bad offense will not matter this week.
Auburn 31, Ole Mississippi State 24
I have said this before, but the Mississippi schools get a lot of love simply for being in God apostrophe s Conference. Picking Auburn is a crap shoot, since the odds are fairly strong that their quarterback will have a flatly awful game. But the Home Bo Nix is the Good Bo Nix. Generally.
Texas A and M 42, Old Mississippi 30
I have said this before, and I think fairly recently, the but Mississippi schools get a lot of love simply for being in God apostrophe s Conference. I think the TAMU defense can corral the Old Mississippi offense.
Minnesota 24, Iowa 17
I am not sure how you remain ranked after losing to Bowling Green and Illinois in the same year, but Minnesota is not only ranked, it is ranked above a two loss Iowa that beat PSU. Still, Iowa has no offense to speak of, so Minnesota just needs to hold on to the ball and tough it out.
Pittsburgh 49, North Carolina 42
Again, I am done with picking UNC to do anything.
University of Soutb]hern California 31, California 13
Boy the Trojans season is broken beyond measure, but then Cal lost to Tucson Prep so this one is within USC s reach.
Woke Forrest 42, North Carolina State 38
Losing to that other Carolina school probably takes Woke out of the playoffs anyway. They still have the South Atlantic League title to play for since losing to in conference UNC was actually losing OOC. I like the Woke offense, although they could be better at running back.
Colby 31, Bowdoin 17
The Fighting Chamberlains* came within a point of Mastering Bates last week, but the Mules are a different matter.
Alabama 45, New Mexico State 3
I thought this sort of game in God apostrophe s Conference was reserved for the penultimate week of the season. Anyway, here for the sake of completion, I might as well get to the other playoff possibilities.
Cincinnati 27, University of South Florida 13
Cinci needs to run up the score on some of these teams, because they are not going to be beating anyone of note, especially with the Ponies spitting the bit the last two weeks. And by the way I have been to Tampa and it is not SOUTH Florida. I am calling Bull on this.
* Searching on Google informs me the Bowdoin team name is actually the Polar Bears but I never believe anything I find in a Google search that does not coincide with my pre existing belief system.
Colby's win over the Polar Bears was a bit cheesey
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The Pennsylvania State University 27, Meatchicken 21
Well, Michigan DID score 21.
But Pedophile State came up 10 points shy of that bold prediction.
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A couple of key games, but with the bulk of the God apostrophe s Conference teams enjoying some cupcakes in advance of traditional rivalry games, it is not a deep week.
EVENTUAL 2021-2022 NATIONAL CHAMPION Michigan State 42, The 25
I saw these numbers in a dream, floating around my head. A Kelly Green 2, a scarlet 2, a Kelly Green 4 and a scarlet 5. I put them together in the order that makes the most sense to me. The possibility that my dream was telling me the score would be the 52, MSU 24 has occurred to me as more likely, but who am I to predict defeat, under any circumstances. I am not sure we have an answer to their receivers. Even above the talented starting 3, the has good tight ends and we have not covered them well, even more so than our not covering wide outs, all year. But, the Hell with it. We pressure Stroud and force him into bad decisions. Toss in some big plays against the the defense which remains suspect (oh, the verbal gymnastics required when an apostrophe is unavailable!) and Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner III having a big day on the ground and UPSET! Come to think of it, this could well be the game that makes or breaks III as a Heisman winner.
Meatchicken 31, Maryland 17
Maryland showed a strong run defense against us for a half, but that left them open for a pretty efficient passing attack. Meat does not have a quarterback as good as Thorne, or receivers as good as ours, but they should be good enough. Maryland needs one more win to become bowl eligible, but that will have to wait until next week. Meatchicken needs to keep pace with the winner of the MSU slash the game to keep playoff hopes alive.
Woke Forrest 31, ClemSIN 24
Yes, ClemSIN still has a pretty good defense, but Woke has been putting up points all year long. ClemSIN still has not shown a reliable offense. I am still surprised at this. Woke has a pretty poor porous defense, so ClemSIN can win if they can keep the Woke O in check.
Alabama 42, Arkansas 24
At some point the absence of a credible run game is going to be an issue for Alabama (cough Georgia end cough). Pirate Sound* Kansas had one big OOC win that is looking less and less impressive as the year has gone on. They do have some big wins in God apostrophe s Conference, but they have also given up a lot of points to teams with good passing games. Like, say, Alabama has.
Utah 35, Oregon 30
Anarchy! Anarchy! Anarchy!
Cincinnati 27, Southern Methodist 20
This is the first team with a pulse Cinci has played since Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie. They have been less than impressive for weeks despite winning. I think that continues this week. SMU has dropped a couple in a row, but they are still a quality Gang of 6 team, so an upset is possible. Predicitong mid majors can be so Fickell.
UCLA 35, Southern California 27
Why is this not the last regular season game of the year for these teams? Why is college football so bent on denying me the pleasure of childhood memories? First no Oklahoma Nebraska showdown, now UCLA and USC moved up a week? Bastards. Rat bastards. The string is being played out in SC, has been since September, but they should be up for UCLA.
Oklahoma 35, Iowa State 27
The Caleb Williams band wagon has officially taken Meek s cutoff, or died of dysentery or whatever Oregon Trail reference works best. Toast. It is toast. Anyway, ISU was thought to be a major player in the Pure Prairie League, and they are still dangerous, but I think Oklahoma rights its ship.
Kansas State 27, Baylor 21
For much the same reason Purducken beat MSU and Iowa. Big wins followed by good opponents are rough to do, especially on the road. Anyway, once Tuck signs that ten year 95 million dollar offer from MSU I suspect Dave Aranda is next up for LSU. That new tv deal for the Big However Many rocks.
Oklahoma State 27, Texas Tech 14
Unlike God apostrophe s Conference, the Pure Prairie League is not shy about scheduling moderately tough games in advance of the big rivalry games. Moderately tough. Okie State should set up Bedlam, Round 1 nicely.
Wisconsin 27, Nebraska 10
Wisky has been on a roll since dropping three of four at the start of the season, all to pretty good teams. There are two ways of looking at this, first that they have corrected and improved their offensive issues since the Meatchicken game. Or, second, all their games have come against the Big However Many West (and Eastern doormat Rutgers) which is awash in mediocrity. Actually, I think it is a combination of the two. Settling on Braelon Allen seems to have solidified the running game, but other than Iowa they have ploughed through pretty loose soil. I was surprised that Nebraska extended the program killing Frost, but this is probably the wrong year for a program like Nebraska to be courting coaches. Way too may better openings. That is probably going to save more than one job. Like Mullins in Florida.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 35, Georgia Tech 20
Everyone knew the change over from the single wing offense, or whatever outdated offense they had, was going to be tough for GTU, but they remain a wreck despite recruiting for a real offense for a couple of years. I do not think OLotPT is anything like one of the four best teams, but them getting in the playoffs is about a 33 percent chance right now, especially if Alabama loses to Georgia
Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin Baylor 42, Trinity 13
D III playoff time! They had two teams in common on their schedule, Texas Lutheran and McMurry. Both waxed the heretic schismatics, but against McMurry MHB scored 77 points, while Trinity did not score a point**. That is a definitive data point right there.
Mount Union 52, Washington and Lee 7
Sure that is two generals the Mount is going against, which is tough, but keep in mind one of them was a rank traitor to his country. And last Saturday, they lost the battle for the Shenandoah. The last time that happened to Lee his surrender followed hard after.
* Arrrr.
** The game was cancelled. That does not change anything.
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For the Michigan Haters out there---Seton Hall beat them in basketball this week, in Michigan.
Ha!
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Let's send congrats to Rutgers for the B1G win. Many had picked Michigan to win it all, but there is pandemonium in Piscataway, today!
https://www.onthebanks.com/2021/11/7/22768757/rutgers-field-hockey-wins-big-ten-championship-michigan-tayla-parkes-meredith-civico-kerrie-burns (https://www.onthebanks.com/2021/11/7/22768757/rutgers-field-hockey-wins-big-ten-championship-michigan-tayla-parkes-meredith-civico-kerrie-burns)
Any loss in any sport by Meatchicken warms the cockles of my heart.
Michigan women got revenge on the soccer pitch.
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Eeeesh!
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Double Eeesh!!
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Either the Spartan DC doesn't have the athletes to play the Buckeyed receivers up on the line or he's stupid. Hopefully it's the former. This last TD pass for OSU was because the CB was 10 tards off the line. That's about as stupid of a coverage for that position on the field as it gets.
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I blame the refs.
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Either the Spartan DC doesn't have the athletes to play the Buckeyed receivers up on the line or he's stupid. Hopefully it's the former. This last TD pass for OSU was because the CB was 10 tards off the line. That's about as stupid of a coverage for that position on the field as it gets.
It is talent.
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Played them even in the second half.
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Whether Bama wins or not I think OSU jumps Alabama in the next poll.
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Hard to believe this group of green Keystone Kops beat the Buckeyed.
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Either the Spartan DC doesn't have the athletes to play the Buckeyed receivers up on the line or he's stupid. Hopefully it's the former. This last TD pass for OSU was because the CB was 10 tards off the line. That's about as stupid of a coverage for that position on the field as it gets.
MSU is on a level with Rutgers.
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So, Georgia is in, even losing in the God apostrophe s Conference Championship game. The, Alabama and Meatchicken are in if they win out. Cinci also? PAWCP and the South Atlantic League winner will have at least two losses, but there is a chance Okie/Okie State is a one loss conference champ. Would either of those teams jump Cinci if they win out? How about a 2 loss Bama?
And did C J Stroud clinch the Heisman Saturday, or does he need a strong showing against an actual competent pass defense?
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I dont know - I vote for Gordie Lockbaum every year
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Bryce Young leads him in just about every catagory. But they are neck and necK IMO. I haven't really done a good analysis of the defenses they've played against.
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MALIK WILLIS, baby.
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Cincinnati !
First non power-five in the CFP top four!
Win out and the Bearcats are in!
The Big Ten is in.
Georgia is in
Alabama needs to win the SEC to be in.
Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State need help to get in.
College Football is the best!
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Cincinnati !
First non power-five in the CFP top four!
Win out and the Bearcats are in!
The Big Ten is in.
Wisconsin?
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Rivalry Week!
The LAND GRANT TROPHY
Eventual 2022-2023 National Champion Michigan State 35, the Pennsylvania State University 24
It remains the UGLIEST trophy in all organized sports. The. Ugliest. Anyway, I am making this pick without being entirely sure if Reed, Nailor and or Eventual 2021 Heisman Trophy Winner III will be healthy enough to play. Nailor has not played in three weeks, Reed and III left the the game due to injuries, although whether inability to play as opposed to why risk them getting hurt further when we are down 49 points, I am not sure. We also have some defensive people hurt, particularly in the secondary, but given how we have played that may be a good thing. I can definitely see Clifford and Dachshund having a big day against what passes for our pass defense, but I will remain optimistic. Anyway, the Fiesta Bowl is in play if we win, and I am PSYCHED for that.
The EGG BOWL
Old Mississippi State 42, Old Mississippi 40
My disdain for over ranked Mississippi college programs is kind of irrelevant when they play each other, as is the fact that this game features two of my least favorite, most like to see lose, head coaches. Both teams have plus offenses and inconsistent defenses, so I expect the over. I will take the home team, despite the fact that I do not like their quarterback. Fun fact, number wise Will Rogers has been the better of the two quarterbacks this year.
The GAME
The 49, Meatchicken 17
The key to an upset for Meatchicken has to be putting pressure on Stroud. I do not think Meat has enough coverage guys to handle the
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The GAME
The 49, Meatchicken 17
The key to an upset for Meatchicken has to be putting pressure on Stroud. I do not think Meat has enough coverage guys to handle the possessive Big 3. But the has a good enough offensive line to keep the pressure at bay for the most part, and it has the best over all set of offensive skill position players in the country. The has seen its defense improve over the year and while its passing game has gotten better over the year, I think Meat is at its core too one dimensional to outscore the. They also remain coached by Big Game Jim Harbaugh so they have that going for them. I really hope and think we are headed to a showdown between the and Georgia in the National Championship game and I cannot wait to see the the offense against the Dog defense.
The IRON BOWL
Alabama 45, Auburn 10
As bad as I think Nix was, he is clearly better than having no quarterback at all. Alabama still cannot run the ball, but they can pass, even if their top receiver was the fourth best receiver at the before he hit the portal. I cannot see Auburn scoring enough, even if the Alabama defense looks vulnerable on occasion this year.
BEDLAM
Oklahoma 27, Oklahoma State 21
I guess both teams have roughly the same outside shot at the playoffs if they win out. I have no real sense of how this game will go, so a nice send off to Lincoln Riley on Saturday while his wife house shops in Baton Rouge, and he works on changing the names for his dogs from Boomer and Sooner to Geaux and Tigers.
The WHY ARE THEY WEARING LONG PANTS GAME
North Carolina State 38, North Carolina 35
What, no cute nickname? I guess the Tobacco Bowl would not fly these days, but there has to be something. Some people actually had UNC pegged as a top 10 team before the games began. Idiots. I am not picking them to win jack all.
PAUL BUNYAN S AXE
Wisconsin 31, Minnesota 10
Clearly a lesser game. MSU and Meatchicken play for all of Paul Bunyan. These guys just get his axe. I think Wisky is a definite and overlooked threat to Meatchicken and the in the Big However Many championship game, despite the result of the early season match up with Meat. I like ther defense and that they have rediscovered the running game.
The Rivalry Formerly Known as the CIVIL WAR
Oregon 31, Oregon State 21
They stopped using that moniker last year. I guess to avoid hurting the feelings of the veterans who survived that war, or something. Now they play for the Platypus Trophy, which on the surface makes no damned sense at all, though I suspect it has something to do with the platypus bill. Anyway, I look for the Ducks to get back on track this week.
The DUEL IN THE DESERT
Arizona State 24, Arizona 13
True interesting fact. The Territorial Cup, which is awarded to the winning school, is the oldest rivalry trophy in college football, dating back to 1899, 13 years before Arizona became a state (which explains the name) and 26 years before Arizona Normal became a four year college. A loss here would probably spell the end for Edwards at ASU, although that may be coming regardless. But Arizona is truly terrible and I cannot see them winning.
CLEAN, OLD FASHIONED HATE
Georgia 42, Georgia Tech 10
Not even a speed bump, I think.
The HEROES GAME
Nebraska 20, Iowa 17
Was not even aware this had a name, given how recent it really is as a rivalry. Nebraska has been kind of close to winning a few games this year, and Iowa has no offense to speak of, so I see an upset looming.
The APPLE CUP
Washington State 27, Washington 14
I was going to call this the Playing for tenth place on the head coach pecking order, but the rivalry has a name and tenth may be overstating the value of either position. Especially since whoever gets the head coaching gig for Wazzou still has to live in Pullman.
The PALMETO BOWL
ClemSIN 27, South Carolina 10
I somehow do not think when the season started ClemSIN envisioned going into this game with the TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl on the line as the prize for winning.
CAN WE JUST GET THIS SEASON OVER WITH
Brigham Young 42, University of Southern California 14
USC has packed it in big time. Given conference champion tie ins, BYU is number 14 in the pecking order for the top 12 bowl game spots. I wonder if this year we not only get a Second Tier 6 team in the playoffs, we get another one in the other top four bowls.
D III PLAYOFFS
Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin Baylor 27, Birmingham Southern 20
MHB only put up 13 against Trinity, but if you think about it going up against the Father, the Son, AND the Holy Spirit is a tall order.
Mount Union 42, Johns Hopkins 10
On the bright side the Johnnies will make excellent doctors some day.
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Welp, 20 years and $180,000,000 on the sidelines tomorrow.
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Aranda signs a new contract to stay at Baylor. Boy, that LSU job is making a lot of coaches a lot of money.
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Good news for MSU haters!
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-michigan-state-football-could-225830763.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-michigan-state-football-could-225830763.html)
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Good news for MSU haters!
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-michigan-state-football-could-225830763.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-michigan-state-football-could-225830763.html)
It will just make victory all the sweeter.
Are there really MSU haters in real life? It is sort of like hating Luxembourg. Why bother?
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First blood.
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OSU OC is a dork. Michigan DL takes huge splits and the dude insists on throwing the ball.
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Or maybe Stroud just didn't see it. Either way a missed opportunity for a big gashing run up he middle.
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2 quality teams.
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Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a BEAUTIFUL day!!!!!! The is going away
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Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a BEAUTIFUL day!!!!!! The is going away
I think I am missing something.
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I know a playoff someone will be missing.
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Michigan earned that one.
Might erase the memory of a decade of futility against OSU.
The B1G gets into the playoffs and the Rose Bowl, again.
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Not if Michigan loses the big10 CG.
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Michigan earned that one.
Might erase the memory of a decade of futility against OSU.
The B1G gets into the playoffs and the Rose Bowl, again.
On Wisconsin!
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Young had a shot to edge ahead of Stroud but he's choking.
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WILLIS!!!
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Not if Michigan loses the big10 CG.
The Rose tends not to take Losers of Championship games.
Especially if tOSU is available.
FYI
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Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a BEAUTIFUL day!!!!!! The is going away
I think I am missing something.
Bosox only shows when tOSU loses.
Understandable why you rarely see him in the College football chat.
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Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a BEAUTIFUL day!!!!!! The is going away
I think I am missing something.
Bosox only shows when tOSU loses.
Understandable why you rarely see him in the College football chat.
Not what was missing.
It was the word between "The" and "is" that I thought i was missing.
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On a day of choking Bama manages somehow to not choke.
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Stay inbounds and you win the game
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Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a BEAUTIFUL day!!!!!! The is going away
I think I am missing something.
Bosox only shows when tOSU loses.
Understandable why you rarely see him in the College football chat.
Not what was missing.
It was the word between "The" and "is" that I thought i was missing.
Some Regulars here use THE as an acronym for Ohio State.
It is a long story.
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Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a BEAUTIFUL day!!!!!! The is going away
I think I am missing something.
Bosox only shows when tOSU loses.
Understandable why you rarely see him in the College football chat.
Not what was missing.
It was the word between "The" and "is" that I thought i was missing.
Some Regulars* here use THE as an acronym for Ohio State.
It is a long story.
Not really an acronym, more a synechdoche. Josh, The Ohio State University insists of the The as part of their name. The shortens their name to one part of it, and picks at the pretentiousness.
* Me.
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Not if Michigan loses the big10 CG.
The Rose tends not to take Losers of Championship games.
Especially if tOSU is available.
FYI
If Meatchicken loses the Big However Many Championship game, Iowa goes to the Rose Bowl and Meatchicken is out of the playoffs. That would likely knock Michigan State out of the NY 6, since we were 13th in the list (the ACC champ is in despite not being top 12) and while between Okie, Okie State and Baylor, we should jump one team. Putting Iowa in knocks us back one more slot... Holy fucking flying nun i think i have to root for Meatchicken next week.
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Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a BEAUTIFUL day!!!!!! The is going away
I think I am missing something.
Bosox only shows when tOSU loses.
Understandable why you rarely see him in the College football chat.
Not what was missing.
It was the word between "The" and "is" that I thought i was missing.
Some Regulars* here use THE as an acronym for Ohio State.
It is a long story.
Not really an acronym, more a synechdoche. Josh, The Ohio State University insists of the The as part of their name. The shortens their name to one part of it, and picks at the pretentiousness.
* Me.
I was going to say, funniest looking acronym I had ever seen!
Thank you for for the The explanation.
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By the way I had to DVR the Land Grant Bowl, so I just watched it. Love November games in a driving snowstorm.
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Looks like Lincoln Riley meant it when he said he would not be coaching LSU next year.
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Looks like Lincoln Riley meant it when he said he would not be coaching LSU next year.
This morning he said he was staying at Oklahoma not taking the LSU job.
A few hours later he says he is going to Disneyland!
BTW who was the first Super Bowl winner to use the famed line I am going to Disney World?
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Cheer, Cheer for Luke Fickell
Wake up the echoes calling his name!
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Brian Kelly to LSU
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I remember the old days, when Oklahoma and Notre Dame were destination jobs, not stepping stones.
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Well...
Kelly WAS there twelve seasons
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Very few things really surprise me about college sports or coach's moving, but this one got a "wow" out of me.
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Corruption and chicanery is what college football has always been about.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing should ever surprise you about college football.
If Joe Paterno could protect a pedophile for years and years, and people still love him, then nothing should surprise you about College football.
Nothing.
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Cheer, Cheer for Luke Fickell
Wake up the echoes calling his name!
If he was not interested in LSU or USC. Why would he be interested in OLotPT?
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Cheer, Cheer for Luke Fickell
Wake up the echoes calling his name!
If he was not interested in LSU or USC. Why would he be interested in OLotPT?
Been well documented that Fickell is only interested in two jobs,
Ohio State(Alma Mater, Columbus born, 15 years there as asst.coach) and Notre Dame( Fickell has strong recruiting skills in the Midwest and he is a devout Catholic and Notre Dame is the most famous Catholic institution this side of the Vatican).
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Very few things really surprise me about college sports or coach's moving, but this one got a "wow" out of me.
Me too.
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Very few things really surprise me about college sports or coach's moving, but this one got a "wow" out of me.
Me too.
Not surprising you are so out of touch.
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CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK!
C-USA
UT San Antonio 42, Western Kentucky 38
Well, WKU put up big numbers through the air against us, but who the hell has not? Put up a lot of points the first time the two teams played, but UTSA put up more. I have no reason to think this will go any differently.
PAWCP
Utah 35, Oregon 28
The PAWCP is becoming more and more irrelevant to the playoffs. It has been 5 years now with no representative, and their highest ranked team has been 6, Oregon, in 2019. They need Lincoln Riley to take SC back to its glory years, or something like that. Even had Oregon finished with one loss, I doubt they would have remained in the playoffs against a one loss Meat or Oklahoma State, both of which have played much tougher schedules. I tend to think of Utah as a well coached sound team, and while I think the game will be closer than the 38 to 7 tail feather kicking the Ducks endured the last time, and that Utah is a better home team than elsewhere, I still think the end result is the same.
MACTION
Kent State 52, Northern Illinois 47
They have already played, and just two weeks ago. Why should anyone think the result would be any different? I will take Kent State, Crummy passing and all.
PURE PRAIRIE LESAGUE
Oklahoma State 27, Baylor 14
I think it would be fun to have some other OSU in the playoffs, and I think regardless of where the committee put them compared to Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, the extra data point will get them the jump over OLotPT and into the playoffs with a Bama loss. Last week aside, I like what I have seen from the Poke defense. I actually like Baylors back up over their putative starter, but I think OSU has too much defense.
PAWCP LITE
San Diego State 34, Utah State 21
SDS has wins over two PAWCP schools, granted one was abysmal U of A, but the other is in the PAWCP championship game. And they are coached by Brady Hoke, who beat the just as often as Harbaugh has, and in fewer years. USU overachieved this year.
SUN BELT
Appalachian State 24, Louisiana 10
App State once beat Meatchicken, so I kind of like them, generally.
MEEK
Prairie View 27, Jackson State 14
Not sure I caught the pronunciation of that conference right. Anyway, a quick stat check indicates JSU cannot run the ball, and PVU has a good run defense. So, why not.
GOD APOSTROPHE S CONFERENCE
Georgia 24, Alabama 10
I would hate to be the team that has to face Bama in a quote unquote normal bowl if they miss the championship tournament. They tend to take it out on the team they play. Or at least, us. Anyway, no one has found the answer to the Georgia defense all year, and I doubt Bama is going to find it. A Tournament without Alabama, Clemson and The? Yes please. But, can Alabama still get in the playoffs if it loses? We have never had a two loss team before, but if Oklahoma State or Cincinnati loses, where would the Committee place Alabama in comparison to a one loss Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie? Strength of schedule is a heavy weight in Alabama
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Apostrophe s favor against OLotPT, and neither would be a conference champion.
AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE
Cincinnati 31, Houston 28
This will be only the second currently ranked team Cinci plays all year. (Technically, I think Indiana was ranked at the time they played, but they absolutely cratered) For whatever it is worth, they tend to play to the level of their opponent, great against the best teams, good enough to get by against the poor ones. As a guess, for the playoffs, lose and they are out, obviously, but I also think they need Alabama, Meatchicken or Oklahoma State to lose even if they win. At least per the committee, Bama, OSU and Cinci were all very close; given the level of competition, I think Cinci is 5 if those three teams win out.
SOUTH ATLANTIC LEAGUE
Pittsburgh 54, Woke Forest 49
Woke has not played much defense all year. I like Pickett to lead the charge through their porous defense. While Pitt has a better defense, Woke has shown a prolific offense. I will take Pitt in a shoot out, for the South Atlantic League
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s representative in the NY6.
BIG HOWEVER MANY
Meatchicken 28, Iowa 14
You know, it is bad enough I have to pick them, since they are the better team, but I actually have to root for them to secure Eventual 2022-2023 National Champion Michigan State their place in the New Year 6. (FiestaBowlFiestaBowlFiestaBowlpleasegodFiestaBowl) Of course, the one likely replacement for Meat in the playoffs would be Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, so there is that. Iowa has no offense to speak of, but they have thrived off turnovers all year round. Meat takes care of the ball pretty well.
D III PLAYOFFS
Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin Baylor 28, Linfield 21
Revenge for 2004!
Mount Union 45, Muhlenberg 20
From 2000 through 2018, The Mount was in every D III final game except 2004 (See above). It has now been two years since the last time. As for Muhlenberg, their graduations hang on the wall, but that will never really help them at all.
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Good for OLotPT, taking the hot young Ass coach rather than trolling for a big name.
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Good for OLotPT, taking the hot young Ass coach rather than trolling for a big name.
What big names are there to troll?
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Good for OLotPT, taking the hot young Ass coach rather than trolling for a big name.
What big names are there to troll?
My spellchecker does not like the word."trawling". Matt Campbell, Luke Fickell, Gerry Faust, those guys.
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Good for OLotPT, taking the hot young Ass coach rather than trolling for a big name.
What big names are there to troll?
My spellchecker does not like the word."trawling". Matt Campbell, Luke Fickell, Gerry Faust, those guys.
Luke Fickell would be a bona fide
If he were not a coaching mate at OSU with Freeman who is loved by ND players.
Sometimes it gets complicated.
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That was huge.
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Looks like the reports of Bryce Young's demise from the Heisman were a bit premature.
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If Michigan doesn't choke they should get to play who? Does Georgia drop below #2? Does Michigan go to #1? If Michigan loses is it ND? Or does the Committee pull a total bullshit move and put in OSU? Or even Baylor?
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Stay tuned boppers.
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A Michigan win:
Alabama
Michigan
Georgia
Cincinnati
An Iowa win
Alabama
Georgia
Cincinnati
Notre Dame
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Defense wins Championships?
Certainly not when the competing teams are Alabama and Georgia.
Georgia almost invariably has blown double digit leads in the last 5 meetings.
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Chaos has left the building.
The revised order of the playoffs based on play in November.
Michigan
Alabama
Cincinnati
Georgia
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Chaos has left the building.
The revised order of the playoffs based on play in November.
Michigan
Alabama
Cincinnati
Georgia
Yesterday (east coast time) was December 4th. Seems absurd to be basing it on November without December.
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A bunch of dogs today except for Baylor/Okla St. I find it amusing they hold a title game in Indiana
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I am fine with Alabama at 1.
Georgia can even be 2. No worries.
So who goes to Rose?
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I am fine with Obama at 1.
Georgia can even be 2. No worries.
So who goes to Rose?
Ohio State and Utah
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Utah?? Holy smokes
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Defense wins Championships?
Certainly not when the competing teams are Alabama and Georgia.
Georgia almost invariably has blown double digit leads in the last 5 meetings.
As always you analyze poorly Skipster. If Georgia was going to get beat it was going to be by a team that had the "defense" to shut down their running game and make Bennett beat them. Which is exactly what happened. Georgia faced two teams with a Top 10 rushing defense, #8 Clemson and #4 Alabama. The Dawgs managed to squeek by Clemson but didn't have the same luck with Alabama.
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Chaos has left the building.
The revised order of the playoffs based on play in November.
Michigan
Alabama
Cincinnati
Georgia
Yesterday (east coast time) was December 4th. Seems absurd to be basing it on November without December.
LOL
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Defense wins Championships?
Certainly not when the competing teams are Alabama and Georgia.
Georgia almost invariably has blown double digit leads in the last 5 meetings.
As always you analyze poorly Skipster. If Georgia was going to get beat it was going to be by a team that had the "defense" to shut down their running game and make Bennett beat them. Which is exactly what happened. Georgia faced two teams with a Top 10 rushing defense, #8 Clemson and #4 Alabama. The Dawgs managed to squeek by Clemson but didn't have the same luck with Alabama.
The Dawgs are a middling rushing team. That Clemson 10-3 yawner turned out to be The Georgia signature win of the season. No wins against a top 20 team and the only top four team of last week to lose a conference championship.
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I would love to have the Commitee pick it, Michigan, Alabama, Cincy, Georgia.
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I think this is the only option.
CIN-ALA has to match up one way or the other
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What a surprise. They don't get the final four rankings right
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What a surprise. They don't get the final four rankings right
Now I know they did
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What a surprise. They don't get the final four rankings right
Really? The only question was Georgia or Meatchicken at 2/3 which is as close to irrelevant as you get.
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Mary Hardin or Wisconsin Whitewater
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Mary Hardin or Wisconsin Whitewater
Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin Baylor of course. The real news is the Mount has now gone three years without playing for the title. Heads are going to roll in Alliance. Is there a Kehres out there? I think Vince kids (which include kids named Bo and Jackson) are too young still.
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Mary Hardin or Wisconsin Whitewater
Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin Baylor of course. The real news is the Mount has now gone three years without playing for the title. Heads are going to roll in Alliance. Is there a Kehres out there? I think Vince kids (which include kids named Bo and Jackson) are too young still.
Urban Meyer may soon be available.
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BOWL TIME
Friday, Dec. 17
Bahamas Bowl, Middle Tennessee vs. Toledo
Fourth place in the C USA East and Third in the MAC West gets you a vacation in the Bahamas. Some teams are born mediocre, some teams achieve mediocrity, and some teams have mediocrity thrust upon them. For these teams, like for Major Major Major, it is all three. And the reward for that is the Bahamas. Middle Tennessee State
Tailgreeter Cure Bowl, Northern Illinois vs. Coastal Carolina
Coastal has put together a pretty good team for a school that, when I used to visit my parents there, was known for its first rate golf course and hotel management program. NIU has Rocky Lombardi as its QB and Rocky Lombardi sucks on any level. Also, Tailgreeter sounds like the worst job in a brothel. Coastal Carolina
Amos Alonzo Stagg Bowl, Mary Hardin Baylor, North Central Illinois
Technically, North Central is the reigning D III champion, having won the AAS Bowl in 2019 and no game having been played last year. However, how much respect can you have for a team that cannot even decide what part of Illinois they are from? It should be a good game if you can catch it on ESPNU. My sole decisive data point? Napierville is the home town of Payton Thorne and Jalen Reed. North Central
Saturday, Dec. 18
Boca Raton Bowl, Appalachian State vs. Western Kentucky
I think Bug Zappe has a big game. WKU can score. App State has a good run game and that can be the best way to silence an explosive offense. Chase Brice is not awful and the WKU defense kind of is, so it should be high scoring and entertaining. Meaning it will probably be something like App State 14, WKU 3. Western Kentucky
Celebration Bowl, Jackson State, South Carolina State
Kudos to SCST for playing a couple of FBS teams, one of which was ClemSIN. Both played FAMU and as a data point, JSU beat them and SCST lost big. I really do not have much to go on except that. Jackson State
New Mexico Bowl, Fresno State vs. UTEP
On the basis of the regular 2021 season, this should be the FSU Raisins game to lose. But their starting quarterback is in the portal, [or not, I guess he rescinded] and their coach is a Huskie. So, if you are betting, that 13.5 spread is looking juicy. Straight up? Fresno still has the talent. Fresno State
Independence Bowl, BYU vs. UAB
Such is the fate of an Independent. BYU was 13 in the Committee polls and they get shunted off to Shreveport in mid December rather than, oh, the Outback Bowl. No wonder they are off to the Pore Prairie League. There is a big talent disparity here, so either BYU is ticked and takes it out on UAB, or BYU is disappointed and there is a chance, a small chance, that UAB will make a game of it. Either way, though. BYU
LendingTree Bowl, Eastern Michigan vs. Liberty
EMU versus Liberty? I smell a very, very bad commercial on tap. The number of reasons to hate Liberty start with the bloated Hell mired corpse of Jerry Falwell, and have not improved with the hiring of Hugh Freeze. Yes, they have the first round draft choice (putatively) at QB in Malik Wills, and yes EMU could not stop a pee wee football team from running the ball, but I am not rewarding evil by picking Liberty. Emu
La Bowl, Oregon State vs. Utah State
I assume this is in French, right? Maybe played in Quebec? Anyway, I think the Beavers get licked and I never ever tire of that joke no matter you did not think it funny the first time what do you know from funny. And since the bowl is actually sponsored by Jimmy Kimmel, Not Funny is the operative phrase across the board. Utah State
New Orleans Bowl, Louisiana vs. Marshall
Louisiana is another school with a manumized head coach, but they were the better team over all this year, so I will still go with their talent. Marshall is sort of just a blah entry to the bowl season. Louisiana
Monday, Dec. 20
Myrtle Beach Bowl, Tulsa vs. Old Dominion
I do not really have anything, not even jokes, for this one. Tulsa
Tuesday, Dec. 21
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl, Kent State vs. Wyoming
Kent likes to play hurry up, and NIU showed how a strong ball control team can thwart them. I was in Wyoming over the summer, bought a U of W polo shirt to add to my collection of University branded polo shirts from schools I have no connection with. That is good enough a data point for a pick I am otherwise pulling straight from my HamiltonSamuels. Wyoming
Frisco Bowl, San Diego State vs. UTSA
AKA the actual Frisco Bowl. SDSU was missing about a third of their team in their conference championship loss. I will assume most of them are back healthy, so I think full strength they are the better team. And yes I know who coaches them. San Diego State
Wednesday, Dec. 22
Armed Forces Bowl, Missouri vs. Army
Misery is another team that has not been able to stop the run. Army
Thursday, Dec. 23
Frisco Football Classic, Miami (Ohio) vs. North Texas
This game should not exist, as it did not before this month and will not after this month. It reminds me of the bowl of petunias, briefly called into existence by the uncloaked engaging of the Heart of Golds improbability drive whose only thought before crashing into Magrathea was
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Frisco Football Classic, Miami (Ohio) vs. North Texas
This game should not exist, as it did not before this month and will not after this month. It reminds me of the bowl of petunias, briefly called into existence by the uncloaked engaging of the Heart of Golds improbability drive whose only thought before crashing into Magrathea was Oh no, not again. So, whatevs. Not the MAC team. North Texas State
Gasparilla Bowl, Florida vs. UCF
Well, Florida was a hot mess this year, other then scaring Alabama. My bet is UCF would love nothing more than to beat the Gators, and this may be their best chance. Central Florida
Friday, Dec. 24
Hawaii Bowl, Memphis vs. Hawaii
I always wonder if playing this game is wise for the visitors. How are you going to keep them in Memphis after they have seen Waikiki? Hawaii
Saturday, Dec. 25
Camellia Bowl, Ball State vs. Georgia State
Again, other than the even too obvious even for me Ball State jokes or David Letterman references, I got nothing. When in doubt, avoid the MAC. Georgia State
Monday, Dec. 27
Quick Lane Bowl, Western Michigan vs. Nevada
True Interesting Fact: sure, every FBS school in the state of Michigan made a bowl game, but at least the others got to leave town. (Well, to be fair, Kazoo is closer to Chicago than Detroit) Nevada has the pro prospect QB, so I will go there. To quote Jonathan Richman, Reno Reno Reno Honey, Reno Reno Reno. Nevada
Military Bowl, East Carolina vs. Boston College
No real sense of either team and I am getting lazy so Boston College
Tuesday, Dec. 28
Birmingham Bowl, Houston vs. Auburn
Really, as much as I dogged on Nix, and he deserved it, he at least had the ability to make plays. Some of which were good. I do not see much for the Auburn offense in its present incarnation. Score one for the Group of Six. Houston
First Responder Bowl, Air Force vs. Louisville
On one hand, AF has an offense that is hard to prepare for, but then Louvuhl has the time to prepare for it. Louisville
Liberty Bowl, Texas Tech vs. Mississippi State
AKA the Adam James Bowl. Somehow, I think that Old Miss State is going to have a fire lit under them for this one. Mississippi State
Holiday Bowl, NC State vs. UCLA
I originally had a Chip Kelly joke about Ducking out, but the opportunity for that has passed. I will go with UCLA and its superior ground game. UCLA
Guaranteed Rate Bowl, Minnesota vs. West Virginia
So the Gophers epitomized up and down. Beat Wisky, beat Purdue, lose to Illinois and Bowling Green. I am going with the like to Fleck up their opponents in big games and spend the down game in their PJs. Minnesota
Wednesday, Dec. 29
Fenway Bowl, Virginia vs. SMU
I suspect the Fenway Bowl deliberately chose to go up against the more established (as in, it has been played before) Pinstripe Bowl as part of the boring and interminable for everyone outside of a 200 mile corridor of I 84 baseball rivalry. I also suspect bowl organizers are going to miss out on the one thing that might make this game interesting, which is awarding an additional 10 points for anyone who can kick a field goal over the green monster. The Cavaliers play out for their departing coach. Virginia
Pinstripe Bowl, Virginia Tech vs. Maryland
An old school South Atlantic League rematch. My VTU booster friend Bill assures me that Fuente was the only thing standing between VTU and a return to football glory. Somehow I think there are deeper issues. Anyway, here is one for our newly departed yankguy. Maryland
Cheez-It Bowl, Clemson vs. Iowa State
I think, back and September, it would have been only a mild surprise to see this as the Cotton Bowl, what with ISU an only sightly dark horse candidate for the Pure Prairie League Champ. Neither team lived up to its hype, and ClemSIN markedly so, although they still managed a nice 9 wins with a substandard offense because they had a stout defense. The DC is the Oklahoma coach in waiting now, though, and the OC is the Virginia coach, though the Worst Scrabble Draw Ever never seemed to progress this year. The opportunity is there for an upset. Iowa State
Alamo Bowl, Oregon vs. Oklahoma
And this could have been the Orange Bowl as recently as four weeks ago, before the Ducks got absolutely bitch slapped twice by the Utes and Oklahoma lost to OSU for the first time since back when the Republican party was a functional political party and not a cult of personality. Now both teams are on interim coaches. I was so hoping the rumors that Oregon wass going to go with joint coaches were true if only in the sense I hope every Indy 500 ends with a massive crash from which everyone walks away unharmed). Anyway, although the Heisman hype was way premature, Caleb Williams is an exciting talent, and he will be setting himself up for next year. Oklahoma
Thursday, Dec. 30
Duke's Mayo Bowl, North Carolina vs. South Carolina
Worst menu item ever. It is sort of amazing that UNC and South Carolina play so rarely. SoCar was a pretty run of the mill God apostrophe s conference team, but I am not picking UNC for anything, ever. South Carodamnlina
Music City Bowl, Tennessee vs. Purdue
Is Tennessee coming off an emotional win with title implications that saps it of the necessary energy? No? Well then. Tennessee
Peach Bowl, Michigan State vs. Pittsburgh
I will not lie. Given our pass defense this is a pretty bad match up for us. Granted the month off will help us get healthy, but even when we were healthy we got pretty shredded. There is, at this writing, the possibility that Pickett will not play in order to prepare for the draft, but I do not thing that will happen. Anyway the game matches us against former DC Pat Narduzzi, creator of the No Fly Zone (as opposed to the current No, Fly! Zone). Despite his defensive chops, the Pitt defense is not all that. I am hoping our ground game lead by Doak Walker winning, unfairly excluded from the Heisman ceremony III and our big play wide receivers can help us outscore the Panthers. A high scoring game, but in the end
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Peach Bowl, Michigan State vs. Pittsburgh
I will not lie. Given our pass defense this is a pretty bad match up for us. Granted the month off will help us get healthy, but even when we were healthy we got pretty shredded. There is, at this writing, the possibility that Pickett will not play in order to prepare for the draft, but I do not thing that will happen. Anyway the game matches us against former DC Pat Narduzzi, creator of the No Fly Zone (as opposed to the current No, Fly! Zone). Despite his defensive chops, the Pitt defense is not all that. I am hoping our ground game lead by Doak Walker winning, unfairly excluded from the Heisman ceremony III Antjuan Simmons and our big play wide receivers can help us outscore the Panthers. A high scoring game, but in the end, Eventual 2022 2023 National Champion Michigan State
Las Vegas Bowl, Wisconsin vs. Arizona State
This is being played at 10:30 pm EST. So, I take it Larry Scott had a hand in scheduling this. The Minnesota game aside, Wisky rediscovered its run based energy in the last half of the year, and they have the defensive chops still. A trip up the future I 11 corridor to Vegas always ends badly for the folks from Phoenix. At least for me it seems to. Wisconsin
Friday, Dec. 31
Gator Bowl, Wake Forest vs. Texas A and M
I went to the Gator Bowl, sat two rows below the blimp. Andre Rison caught a 4th and goal TD pass. 4th and goal from MID FUCKING FIELD. With three people on him. We lost anyway. Good times. Woke had a good year, and has a lot of offensive talent, but still. Texas A and M
Sun Bowl, Washington State vs. Miami (FL)
Leaving aside Hawaii, is there a match up of two bowl teams that are more poles apart than these two? Not only is the physical distance great, but I have been to both Pullman and Miami and those are NOT similar cities. Not that that matters. But I do think Miami has gotten better over the year. Miami
Arizona Bowl, Central Michigan vs. Boise State
According to my guide, this is going to be shown on Barstool Sports. WTF is Barstool Sports? If that is who is showing your game, cancel. Central has CFB leading rusher Lew Nichols III, an efficient quarterback, and back in the 1950s my mom was forced to withdraw from Central due to poor grades she got because she partied too hard, a bit of knowledge that forever changed the way I looked at my mom. Central Michigan
Saturday, Jan. 1
Outback Bowl, Arkansas vs. Penn State
Other than losing to Illinois when Clifford was banged up, the Pennsylvania State University lost three very close games and one fairly close game to four very good teams. Arky likewise put a scare into two playoff teams. Not that I put a lot of stock into it, but the two teams did have a common opponent in Auburn who the Pennsylvania State beat, and Arkansas lost to. I think Penn State have a good enough defense to hold off the Razorback offense. the Pennsylvania State
Citrus Bowl, Iowa vs. Kentucky
Kentucky has a 9 to 22 turnover ratio, which does not bode well against an Iowa team that has lived off the turnover all year. Not that Iowa has anything like an offense that can scare KY, but I think their defense turns KY to jelly. Iowa
Fiesta Bowl, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie vs. Oklahoma State
I blame Okie State for us being in the Peach Bowl, had they just taken care of business against Baylor we would have moved up one spot in the Committee rankings, and this would have been us, and I would have gone to the game and we would have been treated to a run up focusing on the 1966 game which I remember with a clarity that is amazing given I actually have no memory of the game at all but know they played for the tie in the same way I know transubstantiation is real and as much as I take the Okie State betrayal in the Pure Prairie League Championship game as a personal affront I am not picking OLotPT no how no way and I cannot believe my grammar check did not flag this as a run on sentence. Oklahoma State
Rose Bowl, the vs. Utah
The Sonic Utes played like a Bull in the Heather against the Ducks, two games of 100 Percent Shaking Hell. But can their defense handle the Scarlett and Silver Rockets that are the three the wide outs? Can they stop TreVeyon Henderson from drumming on them like Rain on Tin? Will their offense take a Sweet Shine to the gaps in the the defense? Do they have the Starpower to take this game? No. The will whip them like it is a Teenage Riot. The will handle them with Little Trouble, Girl. The
Sugar Bowl, Baylor vs. Mississippi
Of all the NY 6 games, this is the one I really do not think much about. I am not sure why. I would like to pick against the God apostrophe s Conference, but I cannot, despite my habitual discounting of Missississippippi teams. Mississippi
Tuesday, Jan. 4
Texas Bowl, Kansas State vs. LSU
Why do they continue to play bowl games after New Years Day? Does anyone care, even their fans? I bet LSU does not. Kansas State
College Football National Championship Playoffs
Cotton Bowl Classic, Alabama vs. Cincinnati
Sure, Cincinnati is a great story, and Fickell has done a great job with them. They did what they had to do to get where they are, and they deserve it, but to borrow from Sesame Street, three of these things belong together, one of these things just does not belong. I would not pick my mother over a Nick Satan team with a month to prepare. I think the offensive fire power Alabama has is just too much. Defensively Alabama may let Cinci hang around for a while, but I do not think Cinci has the defense to stop Alabama.
Orange Bowl, Meatchicken vs. Georgia
So whenever a team takes a loss like Georgia did in the God apostrophe s Championship Game there is always the agonizing reappraisal of their season, and people start to question just how good that defense was. Georgia played in the God apostrophe s Conference West, the competition was not that tough, ClemSIN was an offensive train wreck and while they played some good teams Alabama was really the only great team they ran up against and what I think is Bull Shit. That was a great defense that lost to an elite offense that played a great game. Georgia still has the defense we thought they had, especially against the run. Meat has a very strong run game, and a very good defense with elite edge rushers who can make Stetson Bennett IV wish law school had started. But in the end, I think that the Georgia defense will contain the Meatchicken running game and Meat does not have the passing game to carry them through. And I am absolutely sick that I picked two God apostrophe s Conference teams into the Championship game but that is how the cards fall. Georgia
Monday, Jan. 10
College Football Playoff National Championship
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Still time to set up a Yahoo pool
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Go ahead.
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I will just pick the games here daily - folks can join in if they like
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I will just pick the games here daily - folks can join in if they like
I'll take the opposite of whatever you pick.
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Peachy!
Michigan State football RB Kenneth Walker III declares for NFL draft, will miss Peach Bowl
https://sports.yahoo.com/michigan-state-football-rb-kenneth-201809590.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/michigan-state-football-rb-kenneth-201809590.html)
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No ACL injury there
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Peachy!
Michigan State football RB Kenneth Walker III declares for NFL draft, will miss Peach Bowl
https://sports.yahoo.com/michigan-state-football-rb-kenneth-201809590.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/michigan-state-football-rb-kenneth-201809590.html)
Cannot blame him. It is his future.
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Missed the first game today
12/17
(winner of wager listed first *wins game if underdog picked))
6 PM Coastal Carolina -12 vs Northern Illinois
915 PM North Dakota State -5 vs James Madison
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12/18
Jackson State -10.5 S Carolina St
UTEP +12 Fresno State
BYU -6.5 UAB
Liberty -9.5 Eastern Michigan
Utah State +7 Oregon St
Marshall* +4 Lousiana Lafayette
Montana State +5.5 S Dakota St
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12/20 NCAA
(5-4)
Tulsa -7 Old Dominion
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12/21 NCAA
(6-4)
Kent State +3.5 Wyoming
San Diego St -3 Texas-SA
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12\22 games
ARMY. -6.5 vs. Missouri
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12/23 NCAA
Central Florida +6.5 Florida
Miami (OH) -1 North Texas
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12/25 NCAA
(9-6)
Georgia State -6 Ball St.
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12/27 11 am start
Nevada +7 Western Michigan
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5 bowl games have now been cancelled with another seeking an opponent to replace U Miami for later this week.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/26/us/college-football-bowl-canceled-covid/index.html
Turns out I had the right poll, but the wrong year!
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12/28 NCAA
Louisville pick Air Force
Mississippi State -10.5 Texas Tech
UCLA +2.5 NC State
Minnesota -5 West Virginia
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12/29 NCAA
(11-9)
Virginia Tech +4.5 Maryland
Clemson -1.5 Iowa State
Oregon +6.5 Oklahoma
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Big Ten Day
I will take 2 out of 3
Tennessee -7.5 Purdue
Michigan State -3.5 Pittsburgh
Wisconsin -7 Arizona State
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Referee chokes on his whistle in Tenn/Purdue in overtime. You just can't blow that whistle until you're positive.
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Eeesh! Missed chippy FG.
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12/31. NCAA
(13-12)
Alabama. -13.5. Cincinnati
Michigan. +7.5. Georgia
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Really glad Cincy got in the playoff. They played a decent game, but I still think they were overmatched.
I'm glad they got in because had they not, they were certainly good enough to have won the Bowl game they got in. And then we would have had to hear the endless BS that happened with UCF some years ago.
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Bama is one beat up squad though.
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Stick a fork in Michigan.
Once again the championship game is an SEC backyard pond.
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Stick a fork in Michigan.
Top 4
Offensive PI on first TD
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Stick a fork in Michigan.
Top 4
Offensive PI on first TD
Good team. Just not quite SEC championship caliber. Good enough for one of the lesser conferences though.
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1/1. NCAA
Notre Dame +1. Ok State
Iowa. -3. Kentucky
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Cont'd
Ohio State. -4. Utah
Baylor. +1. Mississippi
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Cont'd
Ohio State. -4. Utah
Baylor. +1. Mississippi
OSU is hurtin for players.
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Thanks
YeaIh I didn't factor any of that in but new lines reflect the changes. Just having fun.
ND. OKS turned out to be an excellent game.
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God is in his Heaven.
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God is in his Heaven.
Well, Michigan State won, Meatchicken got dick stomped, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie embarrassingly spit the bit, and the two best teams are playing for the National Title, so, yeah, and all is right with the world.
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Cont'd
Ohio State. -4. Utah
Baylor. +1. Mississippi
OSU is hurtin for players.
I think they have identified the successors to Olave and Wilson.
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Looks like, not counting the cancels and substitutions and tonight, I was about 23 and 11 on my bowl picks.
Got Georgia for the Championship game.
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While I fully support the right of student athletes to make decisions regarding their futures and make free use of the transfer portal, last night's superfluous exhibition game makes me wonder if perhaps not letting athletes into the portal until after the season is complete might not be a good idea.
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Cont'd
Ohio State. -4. Utah
Baylor. +1. Mississippi
OSU is hurtin for players.
I think they have identified the successors to Olave and Wilson.
And probably pushed Harbaugh to the NFL.
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A wonderful game for a Championship.
Absolutely great entertainment.
Georgia on my mind.
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Congrats to Chuck Ealey on entering the College Football Hall of Fame!
The quarterback who led the University of Toledo Rockets to 35 straight football wins from 1969-71. He never never lost a game in High School or College.
His Rocket teams won three consecutive MAC Championships and Three Straight Tangerine Bowls, and he was the offensive player of the year in the MAC All three years.
The 35 game winning streak is the second longest in the modern era of Division One football.
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Looks like, not counting the cancels and substitutions and tonight, I was about 23 and 11 on my bowl picks.
Got Georgia for the Championship game.
Nice job
I think I was 16-16 but that was vs number.
I chuckle at all the Harbaugh speculation. Should be interesting.
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Looks like, not counting the cancels and substitutions and tonight, I was about 23 and 11 on my bowl picks.
Got Georgia for the Championship game.
Darned good number Stevo.
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Excellent game by the Georgia defense. I knew the game was over as soon as Jameson Williams blew out his knee.
Two frosh wideouts spelled death for the Tide.
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It's like the Georgia QB went from Gandalf the Grey to Gandalf the White after the alleged fumble
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It's like the Georgia QB went from Gandalf the Grey to Gandalf the White after the alleged fumble
LOL, good observation Bo. Close games like this one was oftentimes only need weird shit like that call to tip the balance. And FTR I thought it was an incomplete pass.
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It's like the Georgia QB went from Gandalf the Grey to Gandalf the White after the alleged fumble
LOL, good observation Bo. Close games like this one was oftentimes only need weird shit like that call to tip the balance. And FTR I thought it was an incomplete pass.
Same here
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My Way Too Early Top (Fuctionally) 10:
First, some teams that are not in it. Call these 12 through 21, in no particular order:
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie I think they will be as good a team in terms of talent as last year and can certainly be in the playoff picture. But they have a new coach and their first game is in Columbus against a truly stacked the. In addition, there are games against ClemSIN, a resurgent (I expect) USC, and BYU. That is a tough schedule and I think they have had an unintentionally soft schedule the last few years (that is, it is not their fault Florida State, V Tach and USC were down last year) that has kept them elevated. Not this year.
Texas A&M TAMU was in everyone elses top 10 preseason last year, but not mine. And they are in everyone elses top 10 this year and not in mine this year for the same reason: I just do not trust them. They also break in a new QB, although they open with a couple of light snacks before the real schedule sets in. There is a potential for any of the God apostrophe s conference West teams to be in the Top 20, which makes for a rough schedule.
Oklahoma State The Cowboys are just a couple of years away from dominating their league. But they lost a lot from their defensive backfield from last year, and the backfield is a bad place to be lacking in that Pure Prairie League.
BYU I have them as my G of 6 rep, but I think the schedule is too unmanageable for them. Hard to be a G of 6 team and be top 10 with more than one loss. They should be the G of 6 representative in the Committee Bowls, but it is hard to see them in the playoffs.
USC It might take more than one year for USC to break through the carnage of the last year. They do have talent, but years of mismanagement is not going to go away overnight. The biggest question is the QB, which has seen a mass exodus of talent. If they can get Williams to follow Riley, that will help.
Oregon Starting quarterback Bo Nix. Nuff said.
Old Mississippi Maybe a reach, but I think Kiff has done well in the transfer portal. Replacing Corral with throwing Darts helps. But for them to break through to the Top 10 is tough. There is a pretty clear path for five losses for them. Or one.
the Louisiana State University I usually down grade teams with new coaches slightly, but Brian Kelly is a real good coach, and I think LSU was just off under Ed the Orgys On and his loose touch. The talent has always been there for a top flight team. The LSU schedule is a manageable one, but it is a tough division. I just think, as with USC, one year is not enough to flush the system.
Meatchicken Pains me to put them in my Top 11, of course, but they have no Power 5 Out of Conference games. They get both the Pennsylvania State and Eventual 2022 2023 National Champion Michigan State in Ann Arbor and got a favorable draw from the Big However Many West. They should still have a strong run game, and even though they were powered by a defense that suffered plenty of losses and have some QB issues, and Harbaugh could well be a Dolphin in a week, the strong run game and favorable schedule should cap their losses at 2.
Michigan State Yes, I know, I have them at 1. But this is reality, and the reality is they have one very big set of shoes to fill in III. They are using the portal well for their other holes, and I think the pass defense will improve, not that it could get much worse. But it is a tough schedule that could get them four or five losses pretty easily. I am comfortable with them in the real world top 20, though.
Anyway, here is my Top 11:
11. ClemSIN
Again, they are perfectly capable of returning to the top of the CFB ranks next year. But the worlds worst scrabble tile set never progressed last year, so until he does their offense is mired in mediocrity. The defense has carried them through and should still be strong. But Venable was considered a rock star DC for a reason. Will they be able to replace him and stay at the same level? On paper, it is a mushy schedule, but their two biggest games, OLotPT and Woke Forrest, are on the road. If this and the Meatchicken blurb read funny, it is because I have been toggling the two teams into this spot while writing this, and finally landed ClemSIN here and decided it was not worth rewriting the blurbs.
10. Wisconsin
The Big However Many did not do them any favors with the schedule reshuffle. They still draw both of their East teams on the road, and the East teams are the and Eventual 2022 National Champion Michigan State University. Still, they return a strong run game with their stud running back and I assume there is a reason Mertz was offered by Alabama and that reason may show itself any day. While they have some losses to make up on Defense, they should still be strong. Someone is winning the Big However Many West.
9. Kentucky
Someone is also winning the God apostrophe s Conference East, and I am taking KY. The Fightin Jellies return their entire starting backfield, including their starting QB and a thousand yard, 6 plus ypc running back in Rodriguez. They do need to do some work elsewhere on offense but are using the transfer portal well. Is this a reach? Probably. But the East is available for any team that catches fire.
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8. Oklahoma
It just occurred to me that it is impossible for me to misspell as opposed to mistype Oklahoma. I know way too many songs from musicals for a strictly heterosexual man. Anyway, Riley entering the coaching transfer portal has sent a lot of talent scurrying, including Caleb Williams who should have his head examined. But they seem to have replaced him through the portal before his spot had even cooled down. Riley recruited a lot of talent, and Venables will be the beneficiary.
7. Georgia
They are losing a lot from a generationally great defense. And I expect some God apostrophe s Conference East teams to be better than last years version of them, particularly Florida. The offense should still be good, and the defense will of course be almost as great. I just think there are enough snakes in the weeds for two losses.
6. Woke Forrest
Quarterback returns. So does the coach. Conference blows. Unless someone from the South Atlantic League rises up, they have exactly one game they should probably lose.
5. Baylor
I still like their back up quarterback better than the starter, although both return. Aranda is a good, solid old school coach, and I think the program can take advantage of the temporary conference instability with Oklahoma and Texas prepping for the move to God postrophe s Conference West also rans.
4. Utah
A PAWCP team is going to make the playoffs eventually. The Utes have a Rising young quarterback and their top runner returning for 2022, so why not them? I like their schedule, and the sort of meh state of the PAWCP makes them a threat if the get by that opening game with Florida. It also, though, means they cannot afford a misstep.
3. Alabama
It really does not matter how much talent they lose, does it? They lose some great players, every year, and it never matters. Fuck them. I hate them.
2. The
They are stacked. Well, like Alabama they are always stacked, but they are stacked with people like C J Stroud and Henderson and Smith Njigba who played significant roles in their 2021 success. If they can fix their defensive issues then they should be on everyones National Champion short list. Well, not jbott or bosox or cap but haters hate. There are some issues with the schedule; they do start the season with Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie, and they have the Pennsylvania State University and Eventual 2022 2023 National Champion Michigan State on the road. However, they get both archrival Meatchicken and OLotPT in Columbus, and while their cross conference draw is tough, both Wisky and Ioway come to Ohio. Last year the defense was a significant issue, but there is a ton of football talent there and a new DC to whip them into shape.
1. Eventual 2022
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1. Eventual 2022 2023 National Champion Michigan State University
Yeah, we lose III and Speedy Nailor, along with some long term starters on the offensive line. For what feels like the first time since the Raegan Administration, the starting center will NOT have the last name Allen. And yes, we had a horrible pass defense last year. But we are adding some Speed to the secondary, and there should be some improvement from the young starters. And more importantly, there really is not a pass heavy offense on the schedule before, or outside of, the. We do return Thorne, who has been better than I expected, and long term bromance partner Reed. Running game remains an issue without III, and I am not sure bringing in Wiskys second best running back who got dismissed from the team due to a prolonged hissy fit is going to cure that. Tuck has stepped up recruiting both in the regular world and through the portal. We are in play for a Top 10 spot, but the is a major stumbling block in the east and we draw Wisky from the West, and Minnesota, albeit both at home. And with the Pennsylvania State University and Meatchicken on the road, that becomes a difficult path to double digit wins.
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Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie I think they will be as good a team in terms of talent as last year and can certainly be in the playoff picture. But they have a new coach and their first game is in Columbus against a truly stacked the. In addition, there are games against ClemSIN, a resurgent (I expect) USC, and BYU. That is a tough schedule and I think they have had an unintentionally soft schedule the last few years (that is, it is not their fault Florida State, V Tach and USC were down last year) that has kept them elevated. Not this year.
The general consensus would say you're right. But IMO ND isn't the talent deficient team they were years ago. And if you're going to want to get OSU it is best to get them early. Like Oregon did. Wouldn't be surprised in the least the see OSU lose this game. Nothing to do with hate, just an experienced observation when it comes to the Buckeyed. I won't mention that your hate of ND might be keeping you from placing them in the Top 10. Or use the haters hate line. Uhhh...wait a minute. :-)
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Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie I think they will be as good a team in terms of talent as last year and can certainly be in the playoff picture. But they have a new coach and their first game is in Columbus against a truly stacked the. In addition, there are games against ClemSIN, a resurgent (I expect) USC, and BYU. That is a tough schedule and I think they have had an unintentionally soft schedule the last few years (that is, it is not their fault Florida State, V Tach and USC were down last year) that has kept them elevated. Not this year.
The general consensus would say you're right. But IMO ND isn't the talent deficient team they were years ago. And if you're going to want to get OSU it is best to get them early. Like Oregon did. Wouldn't be surprised in the least the see OSU lose this game. Nothing to do with hate, just an experienced observation when it comes to the Buckeyed. I won't mention that your hate of ND might be keeping you from placing them in the Top 10. Or use the haters hate line. Uhhh...wait a minute. :-)
I do not disagree with you. I just think it is more likely then not that the beats them because they have more talent, more experience and are at home. And that it is more likely then not that they lost.to ClemSIN at Clemson. That is two losses. And there are other bumps threatening. They could certainly wind up in the Top 5.
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Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie I think they will be as good a team in terms of talent as last year and can certainly be in the playoff picture. But they have a new coach and their first game is in Columbus against a truly stacked the. In addition, there are games against ClemSIN, a resurgent (I expect) USC, and BYU. That is a tough schedule and I think they have had an unintentionally soft schedule the last few years (that is, it is not their fault Florida State, V Tach and USC were down last year) that has kept them elevated. Not this year.
The general consensus would say you're right. But IMO ND isn't the talent deficient team they were years ago. And if you're going to want to get OSU it is best to get them early. Like Oregon did. Wouldn't be surprised in the least the see OSU lose this game. Nothing to do with hate, just an experienced observation when it comes to the Buckeyed. I won't mention that your hate of ND might be keeping you from placing them in the Top 10. Or use the haters hate line. Uhhh...wait a minute. :-)
I do not disagree with you. I just think it is more likely then not that the beats them because they have more talent, more experience and are at home. And that it is more likely then not that they lost.to ClemSIN at Clemson. That is two losses. And there are other bumps threatening. They could certainly wind up in the Top 5.
Well shit,...., now I can't have a good argument with you.
The world really is turning upside down.
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Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie I think they will be as good a team in terms of talent as last year and can certainly be in the playoff picture. But they have a new coach and their first game is in Columbus against a truly stacked the. In addition, there are games against ClemSIN, a resurgent (I expect) USC, and BYU. That is a tough schedule and I think they have had an unintentionally soft schedule the last few years (that is, it is not their fault Florida State, V Tach and USC were down last year) that has kept them elevated. Not this year.
The general consensus would say you're right. But IMO ND isn't the talent deficient team they were years ago. And if you're going to want to get OSU it is best to get them early. Like Oregon did. Wouldn't be surprised in the least the see OSU lose this game. Nothing to do with hate, just an experienced observation when it comes to the Buckeyed. I won't mention that your hate of ND might be keeping you from placing them in the Top 10. Or use the haters hate line. Uhhh...wait a minute. :-)
I do not disagree with you. I just think it is more likely then not that the beats them because they have more talent, more experience and are at home. And that it is more likely then not that they lost.to ClemSIN at Clemson. That is two losses. And there are other bumps threatening. They could certainly wind up in the Top 5.
Well shit,...., now I can't have a good argument with you.
The world really is turning upside down.
I could toss in a "Shut the fuck up forum Nazi" for old times sake.
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I suppose you could, if you could take the time off from the Leftist of the month club. That at least would show some good faith.
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Fanspeak with trades is totally unrealistic, but fun.
Look at this haul:
7: R1 P7 CB Derek Stingley - LSU
14: R1 P14 OT Charles Cross - Mississippi State
36: R2 P4 G Kenyon Green - Texas A&M
66: R3 P2 CB Jalyn Armour-Davis - Alabama
67: R3 P3 S Lewis Cine - Georgia
76: R3 P12 LB Channing Tindall - Georgia
81: R3 P17 LB Brandon Smith - Penn State
101: R3 P37 EDGE Boye Mafe - Minnesota
115: R4 P13 TE Jelani Woods - Virginia
146: R5 P4 G Cade Mays - Tennessee
154: R5 P12 G Chasen Hines - LSU
172: R5 P30 EDGE Tyreke Smith - Ohio State
176: R5 P34 WR Charleston Rambo - Miami
181: R6 P2 WR Danny Gray - SMU
182: R6 P3 EDGE Christopher Allen - Alabama
218: R6 P39 LB Josh Ross - Michigan
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I suppose you could, if you could take the time off from the Leftist of the month club. That at least would show some good faith.
Dude, there are like, 10 of those. I am going for leftist of the YEAR.
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I suppose you could, if you could take the time off from the Leftist of the month club. That at least would show some good faith.
Dude, there are like, 10 of those. I am going for leftist of the YEAR.
You've always been a go getter.
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B1G to stay at 9 conference games.
Alliance with ACC and/or Pac12 not in the cards.
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B1G to stay at 9 conference games.
Alliance with ACC and/or Pac12 not in the cards.
M O N E Y .
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B1G to stay at 9 conference games.
Alliance with ACC and/or Pac12 not in the cards.
M O N E Y .
Of course.
This is a business and the B1G is the best at it.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships.
You mean to compete for a National Championship.
That is a season long battle with no great difference, moneywise, after reaching the final four.
Which is why the B1G needs no help from the PAC12 or the ACC.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships.
You mean to compete for a National Championship.
That is a season long battle with no great difference, moneywise, after reaching the final four.
Which is why the B1G needs no help from the PAC12 or the ACC.
No I mean WIN a National Championship. And there is a big difference as college football isn't college basketball Jimmy.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
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Why are there so many of the lengthy spam posts showing up all over the forums. I thought that was fixed years ago but they're back in annoying force
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I dont see any spam posts.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
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I dont see any spam posts.
I've been reporting them. At first they were just hitting dead forums but now they're targeting active ones. There was one here today
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Why are there so many of the lengthy spam posts showing up all over the forums. I thought that was fixed years ago but they're back in annoying force
I presume that the spam generators found a workaround for the sign up security, since the security seems to still be in place. It would probably take an update to get newer spam blockers, but I don't have the authority/ability to do that.
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I dont see any spam posts.
I've been reporting them. At first they were just hitting dead forums but now they're targeting active ones. There was one here today
I appreciate the reports, since there are fora I go into far less frequently and would not otherwise see them.
You can skip reporting the ones in Business and Tech, though. The only non-spam activity it receives the vast bulk of the time are silly responses to the spam posts. I don't lock it because I figure they will just target a different place.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
Pointless to you and Jimmy. Possibly not pointless to others.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
Pointless to you and Jimmy. Possibly not pointless to others.
So what precisely is the point of exaggerating a case that the actual facts make quite well?
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
Pointless to you and Jimmy. Possibly not pointless to others.
So what precisely is the point of exaggerating a case that the actual facts make quite well?
I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp. The fact that it is tells me there's no point in trying to explain. The marginal difference in revenue doesn't seem to reflect results as far as football championshis. Pretty easy stuff here Stevo.
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I dont see any spam posts.
I've been reporting them. At first they were just hitting dead forums but now they're targeting active ones. There was one here today
I appreciate the reports, since there are fora I go into far less frequently and would not otherwise see them.
You can skip reporting the ones in Business and Tech, though. The only non-spam activity it receives the vast bulk of the time are silly responses to the spam posts. I don't lock it because I figure they will just target a different place.
I noticed that forum was full of them just now. The names are easy to spot of they're spammers
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
Pointless to you and Jimmy. Possibly not pointless to others.
So what precisely is the point of exaggerating a case that the actual facts make quite well?
I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp. The fact that it is tells me there's no point in trying to explain. The marginal difference in revenue doesn't seem to reflect results as far as football championshis. Pretty easy stuff here Stevo.
A point made by the truth. Making your exaggeration pointless. Why is this so difficult for you?
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
Pointless to you and Jimmy. Possibly not pointless to others.
So what precisely is the point of exaggerating a case that the actual facts make quite well?
I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp. The fact that it is tells me there's no point in trying to explain. The marginal difference in revenue doesn't seem to reflect results as far as football championshis. Pretty easy stuff here Stevo.
A point made by the truth. Making your exaggeration pointless. Why is this so difficult for you?
There was no exaggeration. 13 out of 15 or 11 out of 15 the point still stands tall. If you think me being off by a couple of numbers is, then you're just plain wrong. Or, more correctly childish.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
Pointless to you and Jimmy. Possibly not pointless to others.
So what precisely is the point of exaggerating a case that the actual facts make quite well?
I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp. The fact that it is tells me there's no point in trying to explain. The marginal difference in revenue doesn't seem to reflect results as far as football championshis. Pretty easy stuff here Stevo.
A point made by the truth. Making your exaggeration pointless. Why is this so difficult for you?
There was no exaggeration. 13 out of 15 or 11 out of 15 the point still stands tall. If you think me being off by a couple of numbers is, then you're just plain wrong. Or, more correctly childish.
Being wrong "by a couple of numbers" remains wrong. And since you claim the point "still stands tall" the exaggeration remains a pointless one.
Think we can keep this up until there is actually football to talk about?
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
Pointless to you and Jimmy. Possibly not pointless to others.
So what precisely is the point of exaggerating a case that the actual facts make quite well?
I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp. The fact that it is tells me there's no point in trying to explain. The marginal difference in revenue doesn't seem to reflect results as far as football championshis. Pretty easy stuff here Stevo.
A point made by the truth. Making your exaggeration pointless. Why is this so difficult for you?
There was no exaggeration. 13 out of 15 or 11 out of 15 the point still stands tall. If you think me being off by a couple of numbers is, then you're just plain wrong. Or, more correctly childish.
Being wrong "by a couple of numbers" remains wrong. And since you claim the point "still stands tall" the exaggeration remains a pointless one.
Think we can keep this up until there is actually football to talk about?
You're playing at conceptual semantics. And yes, we can childishly go on for as long as you want. Or, you(and I as well, I suppose) can just STFU about it.
And as for actual football we could talk recruiting. But most people think that is a bit of a bore. Me personally, I love the recruiting aspect. IMO it's one of the cornerstones of why the SEC has the more dominant posture in the championship arena.
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Arguable.
At least if part of the reason for the money is ultimately to win national championships. In football alone they fall far short of the SEC, as they have won 13 out of the last 15.
11.
Okay. And the big has won 1.
Which is why your original exaggeration was pointless.
Pointless to you and Jimmy. Possibly not pointless to others.
So what precisely is the point of exaggerating a case that the actual facts make quite well?
I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp. The fact that it is tells me there's no point in trying to explain. The marginal difference in revenue doesn't seem to reflect results as far as football championshis. Pretty easy stuff here Stevo.
A point made by the truth. Making your exaggeration pointless. Why is this so difficult for you?
There was no exaggeration. 13 out of 15 or 11 out of 15 the point still stands tall. If you think me being off by a couple of numbers is, then you're just plain wrong. Or, more correctly childish.
Being wrong "by a couple of numbers" remains wrong. And since you claim the point "still stands tall" the exaggeration remains a pointless one.
Think we can keep this up until there is actually football to talk about?
You're playing at conceptual semantics. And yes, we can childishly go on for as long as you want. Or, you(and I as well, I suppose) can just STFU about it.
And as for actual football we could talk recruiting. But most people think that is a bit of a bore. Me personally, I love the recruiting aspect. IMO it's one of the cornerstones of why the SEC has the more dominant posture in the championship arena.
Michigan State has the best incoming recruiting class in the nation. And I say that despite, or perhaps because of, my not knowing a damned thing about any of them.
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Mich St has a good class. I really like the QB they landed and Vansumeran who was coveted by a lot of high-profile teams. Mangham though I absolutely love. A couple of others I've looked at could really blow up to be above average players IMO.
But the SEC, as usual, owns about 50 percent of the recruiting real estate in the Top 25.
Alabama really stocked up on WRs and cherry-picked just about every position. As did Georgia and OSU.
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Mich St has a good class. I really like the QB they landed and Vansumeran who was coveted by a lot of high-profile teams. Mangham though I absolutely love. A couple of others I've looked at could really blow up to be above average players IMO.
But the SEC, as usual, owns about 50 percent of the recruiting real estate in the Top 25.
Alabama really stocked up on WRs and cherry-picked just about every position. As did Georgia and OSU.
Tuck does kill on the portal too.
I think NIL contracts are only going to grow the value of brands like Alabama and the, even over programs led by master recruiters, like Georgia.
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Mich St has a good class. I really like the QB they landed and Vansumeran who was coveted by a lot of high-profile teams. Mangham though I absolutely love. A couple of others I've looked at could really blow up to be above average players IMO.
But the SEC, as usual, owns about 50 percent of the recruiting real estate in the Top 25.
Alabama really stocked up on WRs and cherry-picked just about every position. As did Georgia and OSU.
Tuck does kill on the portal too.
I think NIL contracts are only going to grow the value of brands like Alabama and the, even over programs led by master recruiters, like Georgia.
Georgia really does a great job of recruiting. Kirby was one of Nicky's best when it came to that.
But Nicky, with all of the 5 star and 4 star recruits he gets, always seems to come up with that one, or two, guys that are listed on the lower end of his recruiting class that blows up into a starter. Last year he got a kid named Jaeden Roberts who could blow up. And also, Anquin Barnes could be another. Or Khyree Jackson the last guy on the RIVALS list.
Of course Bama's lower ranked guys would be probable starters on half the D1 schools in the country.
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Meanwhile.................
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/college-football-communism-capitalism-chaos
Money comes into collegiate sport and we didnt expect major problems?
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Texas A&M will now be able to give out a Fleet of golden Trans Ams with impunity.
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IMO it's one of the cornerstones of why the SEC has the more dominant posture in the championship arena.
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IMO it's one of the cornerstones of why the SEC has the more dominant posture in the championship arena.
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In fairness I think the t has to be capitalized to run afoul of The Ohio State University trademark that is now valid.
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So much for the PAWCP.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/usc-ucla-planning-to-leave-pac-12-for-big-ten-in-2024-with-announcement-imminent/
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One less sport to watch. The greed in college football has gone over the edge to make the sport unrecognizable from what it once was. Worship the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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As much as I love college sports, I'm afraid I'm leaning towards agreeing with you Bo. But you can also blame the BCS and the current format for the demise of the PAC 10. You can bet your bottom dollar that if neither had come to fruition then the BIG would be protecting their turf. Namely the Rose Bowl. And pulling teams out of the PAC would not be in their best interest.
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I don't keep up as much on minor league football as I used to so I was a little surprised to see USC and UCLA the anchors of West Coast college football want to join the B1G.
So its going to be the B1G versus the SEC for grid-iron supremacy amongst our student-athletes?
Will the Rose Bowl parade be awarded to the B1G/SEC champion, or just rotated between Birmingham and Columbus?
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I don't keep up as much on minor league football as I used to so I was a little surprised to see USC and UCLA the anchors of West Coast college football want to join the B1G.
So its going to be the B1G versus the SEC for grid-iron supremacy amongst our student-athletes?
Will the Rose Bowl parade be awarded to the B1G/SEC champion, or just rotated between Birmingham and Columbus?
Cap I'm hoping I can watch some games where smaller school's don't play it as a blood sport. There are certain multiple people and companies who have ruined it as it was meant to be
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I don't keep up as much on minor league football as I used to so I was a little surprised to see USC and UCLA the anchors of West Coast college football want to join the B1G.
So its going to be the B1G versus the SEC for grid-iron supremacy amongst our student-athletes?
Will the Rose Bowl parade be awarded to the B1G/SEC champion, or just rotated between Birmingham and Columbus?
Cap I'm hoping I can watch some games where smaller school's don't play it as a blood sport. There are certain multiple people and companies who have ruined it as it was meant to be
Well that was meant to be a reply to Cap but somehow it switched to Bankshot for the money😁😁
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Word in town has ASU heading to the Pure Prairie League with UA, Utah and Colorado. If that is true, i can see the Big Ten Ten looking at two more teams. I have seen Stanford on the list, but while they are AAU with elite.a ademics, they are a private school with under 20k students and a small stadium. Possible bait for Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie? Also Oregon, which would leave Wash. out to dry.
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I don't keep up as much on minor league football as I used to so I was a little surprised to see USC and UCLA the anchors of West Coast college football want to join the B1G.
So its going to be the B1G versus the SEC for grid-iron supremacy amongst our student-athletes?
Will the Rose Bowl parade be awarded to the B1G/SEC champion, or just rotated between Birmingham and Columbus?
Cap I'm hoping I can watch some games where smaller school's don't play it as a blood sport. There are certain multiple people and companies who have ruined it as it was meant to be
I keep an eye on several Div II and Div III teams. I'd love to see some networks pick up the games but if they did then $$$ would start flowing in and the evil might destroy them too.
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Word in town has ASU heading to the Pure Prairie League with UA, Utah and Colorado. If that is true, i can see the Big Ten Ten looking at two more teams. I have seen Stanford on the list, but while they are AAU with elite.a ademics, they are a private school with under 20k students and a small stadium. Possible bait for Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie? Also Oregon, which would leave Wash. out to dry.
I hear Oregon is actively asking to join the Big 12.
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Word in town has ASU heading to the Pure Prairie League with UA, Utah and Colorado. If that is true, i can see the Big Ten Ten looking at two more teams. I have seen Stanford on the list, but while they are AAU with elite.a ademics, they are a private school with under 20k students and a small stadium. Possible bait for Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie? Also Oregon, which would leave Wash. out to dry.
I hear Oregon is actively asking to join the Big 12.
Possible. Especially if the Big Ten Ten is dragging their feet waiting on OLotPT to defecate or get off the pot. Apparently Oregon is a bit of a tweener in terms of additional revenue. If other schools are leaving the old PAWCP it is time to check your chute and look for a soft landing spot before the Mountain West is your best option.
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One more reason to hate on Larry Scott
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One more reason to hate on Larry Scott
Welcome to the BiG old friend!
You are going to love Madison in late November!
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Anybody paying attention to the laws of California?
A number of away games in the B1G Midwest heartland will occur in states that California has officially condemned for not having suitably leftist social policies. The 20 states currently on the sanctions list are now due to become 22, under a 2016 state law called AB 1887. A reasonable person might figure that Americans in other states generally ought to be free to make up their own minds about local policies. A reasonable person might also consider the possibility that if 22 other states and counting do not choose to mimic California law on such topics as transgender policy, perhaps it is California law that ought to be improved.
In any case, the California condemnations have consequences. The UCLA website states:
The California Attorney General office has updated the list of states where state funds may NOT be used for travel. Indiana and Utah are the latest states to be added.
As of July 1, 2022, there are now 20 states where AB 1887 prohibits the use of state funds to pay for travel to a state on the Attorney General list, except where one of the statutory exceptions applies. It does not affect travel that is paid for or reimbursed using nonstate funds.
The following two states, Louisiana and Arizona, will be added to California travel restrictions list as listed below.
Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Mississippi
Montana
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Louisiana (will be added on Aug 1, 2022)
Hmmmm.
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It will get the message to the fans in the heartland that their states are governed by evil and corrupt asses when the opponents boycott them like white apartheid South Africa before it collapsed.
The only sports ward is qualified to comment on are hockey and topless equestrian events.
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Anybody paying attention to the laws of California?
A number of away games in the B1G Midwest heartland will occur in states that California has officially condemned for not having suitably leftist social policies. The 20 states currently on the sanctions list are now due to become 22, under a 2016 state law called AB 1887. A reasonable person might figure that Americans in other states generally ought to be free to make up their own minds about local policies. A reasonable person might also consider the possibility that if 22 other states and counting do not choose to mimic California law on such topics as transgender policy, perhaps it is California law that ought to be improved.
In any case, the California condemnations have consequences. The UCLA website states:
The California Attorney General office has updated the list of states where state funds may NOT be used for travel. Indiana and Utah are the latest states to be added.
As of July 1, 2022, there are now 20 states where AB 1887 prohibits the use of state funds to pay for travel to a state on the Attorney General list, except where one of the statutory exceptions applies. It does not affect travel that is paid for or reimbursed using nonstate funds.
The following two states, Louisiana and Arizona, will be added to California travel restrictions list as listed below.
Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Mississippi
Montana
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Louisiana (will be added on Aug 1, 2022)
Hmmmm.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Just say no to drugs dude
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Personally I think we ALL need a bit of a timeout.
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One more reason to hate on Larry Scott
Welcome to the BiG old friend!
You are going to love Madison in late November!
If the powers that be have "any" sense at all, they will schedule USC (and UCLA) to have 2-3 road games each in Sept and Oct and have all the midwest (and Eastern) teams coming to So Cal in Nov. That would make everybody happy (well happier)
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Anybody paying attention to the laws of California?
Hmmmm.
Do as I say...not as I do...
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/newsom-california-vacation-montana-00044363 (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/newsom-california-vacation-montana-00044363)
You raise a good point... UCLA is a public school. Will the coaches, as State employees, be prohibited from going to these games? Or will they have to pay their own way? Will the team be allowed to fly on a chartered jet paid for by the state?
California has elected officials that think like adolescents -- their executive functioning skills can't seem to think ahead to all the unintended consequences of their "well intentioned" plans.
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Anybody paying attention to the laws of California?
Hmmmm.
Do as I say...not as I do...
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/newsom-california-vacation-montana-00044363 (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/newsom-california-vacation-montana-00044363)
You raise a good point... UCLA is a public school. Will the coaches, as State employees, be prohibited from going to these games? Or will they have to pay their own way? Will the team be allowed to fly on a chartered jet paid for by the state?
California has elected officials that think like adolescents -- their executive functioning skills can't seem to think ahead to all the unintended consequences of their "well intentioned" plans.
Hey, Gavin Newsome knows how to run any state in the Union.
Except his own.
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One more reason to hate on Larry Scott
Welcome to the BiG old friend!
You are going to love Madison in late November!
If the powers that be have "any" sense at all, they will schedule USC (and UCLA) to have 2-3 road games each in Sept and Oct and have all the midwest (and Eastern) teams coming to So Cal in Nov. That would make everybody happy (well happier)
Nonononono. You are not getting off that easy. You want our money, you need to learn why we call the open area around the football practice field and tennis courts "the Tundra".
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Anyways, I look forward to making really stupid "ringing plains of windy Troy" and "literal definition of epic" jokes on a regular basis.
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Anybody paying attention to the laws of California?
Hmmmm.
Do as I say...not as I do...
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/newsom-california-vacation-montana-00044363 (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/newsom-california-vacation-montana-00044363)
You raise a good point... UCLA is a public school. Will the coaches, as State employees, be prohibited from going to these games? Or will they have to pay their own way? Will the team be allowed to fly on a chartered jet paid for by the state?
California has elected officials that think like adolescents -- their executive functioning skills can't seem to think ahead to all the unintended consequences of their "well intentioned" plans.
Hey, Gavin Newsome knows how to run any state in the Union.
Except his own.
He's doing a fine job when you look at FACTS.In your case ignorance is bliss and you are very blissful skippy
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
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Trouble at Rutgers. So what's new?
https://nj1015.com/twitter-reacts-to-rutgers-nj-football-spending-450k-on-doordash/
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
Yes!!!!!
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Anyways, I look forward to making really stupid "ringing plains of windy Troy" and "literal definition of epic" jokes on a regular basis.
LOL
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Anybody paying attention to the laws of California?
Hmmmm.
Do as I say...not as I do...
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/newsom-california-vacation-montana-00044363 (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/06/newsom-california-vacation-montana-00044363)
You raise a good point... UCLA is a public school. Will the coaches, as State employees, be prohibited from going to these games? Or will they have to pay their own way? Will the team be allowed to fly on a chartered jet paid for by the state?
California has elected officials that think like adolescents -- their executive functioning skills can't seem to think ahead to all the unintended consequences of their "well intentioned" plans.
Hey, Gavin Newsome knows how to run any state in the Union.
Except his own.
He's doing a fine job when you look at FACTS. In your case ignorance is bliss and you are very blissful skippy
California,(now with some help from Virginia) may single-handedly drag the rest of the nation into the new millennium. Whether it likes it or not. I'm not a big political commentor usually, but we need to convert to clean no matter how much it hurts. And then we can drag the rest of the world into it too. We're supposed to be a world leader, so we need to stand up and lead. Change hurts sometimes, but for the sake of future generations someone has got to make the sacrifice.
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
Me. Not paying for it. Been watching the SEC network though since its inception, at no extra charge. Same for the ACC Network.
Don't get me wrong I would have loved to see those BIG games for the last few years. But, just like the PAC, I wasn't paying extra for them.
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
Me. Not paying for it. Been watching the SEC network though since its inception, at no extra charge. Same for the ACC Network.
Don't get me wrong I would have loved to see those BIG games for the last few years. But, just like the PAC, I wasn't paying extra for them.
I have had it free on every system i have ever had. Even here. It is premium where you live?
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Going to try a little different approach this year. Rather than a Top 10 I will look at who I think will make the playoffs.
MY TOP 3 PLAYOFF TEAMS
MY PLAYOFF TEAMS
EVENTUAL 2022 2023 NATIONAL CHAPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Pretty much everything went about as well as it could for my boys, record wise last year. I mean, yeah, Purdue, but we were dancing on the rim of defeat a couple of other times so a second loss was pretty much in the cards. Can we catch as many breaks this year? Well, you have to make your own breaks and last year III put us in position to win those games (and almost single handedly carried us past Meatchicken. Jesus he had almost everything except the cape and x ray vision in that game). It looks lie we may committee the position with Broussard and Berger to replace him, and I am already claiming copyright on the term B & B for them, but the reality is even with III we had more of a dynamic running game than a consistent one. We need to improve the ball control, so some strengthening of the O Line in probably even more necessary than replacing III. It will be up to Thorne and his BFF Reed to pick up a bit of the slack. I keep hearing great things about Mosely and the entirety of the WR room, but really, it is Reed.
What we really have to do is fix the defense, specifically the Yes Fly Zone. MSU actually lead the Increasingly Inaccurately named Big Ten in sacks last year, I assume because other teams passed so much and with so much success the opposing line got gassed, and the D Line will be the strength. Line backers are good, and can be better. It is specifically the backfield we have to fix. We did add some speed from the portal, but what we are really hoping for is an improvement from the returning players, and an influx of talent from recruiting. I think we will be passable which I just realized is a pun but remain concerned. Fortunately, outside of The and Maryland, we do not really face any pass happy loaded offenses this year.
ClemSIN
The worst Scrabble tile draw in the world was about the worst quarterback in the South Atlantic League last year. It was not all on him, of course, but he was just bad. I wonder how short a leash U etc will be on this year. Word is they positively adore incoming freshman Fran Kubelick, if I got that name right, and SWINEy has played freshmen at QB before. But their offensive issues went beyond the QB last year. They never adequately replaced the incredibly useful and underrated Etienne, their receiving corps dropped the ball, and even the O Line had issues. Penciling them in here is a bit of a stretch, but I think their recruiting should carry them through and, hell, they won 11 games even without an offense. I am a little concerned about the loss of the coordinators, but I expect the defense to continue to be at an elite level. I expect a return to the playoffs, based on the lack of a real challenge in conference and my belief the offense has to get better.
The
The is sort of the opposite of ClemSIN this year. They need to fix a poor defense from last year. They brought in a new coordinator, swiped from an OSU that is not so particular about an article leading their name. The is playing the Saban game, they recruit so well that it is impossible to think they cannot fix any issue. I think they can get the defense to at least respectability, which given the offense is enough. The D line needs to find and develop the elite pass rusher they lacked last year, but is otherwise strong. I like their defensive backs. What puts them here is the offense, where Stroud returns with a year of excellence under his belt. Smith-Njigba may have been their best receiver last year and yes I know the other two were Round One draftees. Henderson would be a Heisman candidate if he played back when running backs could win the award. Not an easy schedule by any means, starting out with Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie in Columbus and the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten East has some pretty good teams, but I think they are the class if the league. If not the entire FBS.
Alabama
There is a part of me that wants to pick someone other than Alabama to win God apostrophe s Conference and make the playoffs, but I just cannot do it. I mean, I can nitpick about the offensive line, and the empty receiver room, but does it really matter? I do not need to know who is replacing Neal, or Metchie. It does not matter. It never does. Curse them. I hates them.
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Georgia
The Bulldogs keep popping up on all of the Playoff predictions. I think this is in part a Last Year Fallacy, sort of a cousin to the hot hand fallacy. People see what happened last year and think the same thing will happen this year. But particularly with CFB, that view does not take into account the changes from year to year. In the case of Georgia, those changes include the loss of many key members of a generationally great defense, including five first round draft choices. Yes, they have recruited well, and will still be elite, but those losses will be felt with replacement players not quite as good and depth not quite as, well, deep. The offense just is good, and their lawyerly named quarterback adequate. I just do not see it as good enough to be Top 4 without a defense that approaches last year.
Texas A and M
Well, you never know what symbol will screw over your post. Anyway, this may be my version of the Cold Hand Fallacy. TAMU has been a repeated disappointment in terms of results under Fisher, losing at least 4 games every year not affected by COVID. I expect the same this year, but the talent does change and it is probably wring to anticipate a repeat. Anyway, on an analytical level I know Jimbo has been a Fisher of prospects with great success, but the Aggies lost way too much to expect them to suddenly beat Alabama. Heck, I expect at least three teams to challenge TAMU for the second best team in the division, LSU, Arkansas and Auburn, and of them I rate TAMU third. I would put Arkansas first, but I cannot see them taking down Alabama, and not making the God apostrophe s Conference Championship game makes it hard for any non Satan coached team to make the playoffs.
God Apostrophe s Conference Others
There is always at least one God apostrophe s Conference team that enters the playoff picture. As I noted above, I like Arkansas in the west. Florida looks like the best opportunity to unseat Georgia in the East. Kentucky is apparently starting a pair of blue jeans at quarterback, so I am not sure why people seem to think of them as a sleeper. Anyway, I do not think anyone except Alabama make sthe conference championship game from the East and I have a decent level of confidence about Georgia as well. Cannot pick any one to the playoffs that does not make the conference championsip.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie
I will reiterate the point I made back in February: I expect them to be as good as they were last year, but they have a very, very difficult path to the Top 10. It goes through Columbus, at USC, and at BYU. They do draw Clemson at home, but the schedule also includes a few sneaky good games and few breathers. It is a recipe for three losses. Kudos on the cajones to make that schedule, but
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Great. Elipses too?
The South Atlantic League
Who? I know there should be at least one other Sally team that wins double digits but I do not see any other team that could make the Top 10, let alone the playoffs.
Meatchicken
Well, they got past the The hump last year, for the first time since Luke Fickell coached The, and made the playoffs. Sure, they got shut down by Georgia, but who the hell did not? But this year? The two huge disrupters they had on the D Line have gone on to the pros, and they took most of the defensive line pressure with them. The offense was pretty steady but unspectacular last year, and will be again this year, though they continue to have the LSU problem, which is, how can a team that recruits this well continue to not find The Guy to be quarterback? It has been their weak point offensively for quite a while. It is not like Mcs cannot play, but that neither has seized control of the team is a bad sign since as they say if you have two quarterbacks you have no quarterbacks. Anyway, they certainly have the potential, particularly given the Wisconsin level OOC they have this year, to make another run at the playoffs. I think The is on a different plane this year (and pissed) and I discount a second place Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten East team for the same reason I do it for the God apostrophe s Conference teams.
The Pennsylvania State University
PSU went PU at the end of last year, 2 and 6 over the last 8 games. And the one really dynamic offensive player they had, Jahan Nissan, is gone. Sure they had a stout defense, but they have a poor, bland offense and I see no reason to think they will find the spark that will allow them to be an elite team. You probably are unaware that I am a fan of one of the other Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten East teams since I strive for total objectivity, and as a fan of another IINBT West team I can say I do not fear Penn State. I think they are the fourth best team in the Increasingly Inaccurately Names Big Ten East.
Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten West
Normally I have one of the IINBTW teams in my Top 10, but since I am looking at potential playoff teams instead of a Top 10 this year let me just say, I do not see it. It is not that the West half is bad, but there just does not seem to be a team that can elevate.
Maryland
I always try to include every team the members of this forum are directly connected to in my write ups. And I still consider the mostly absent yankguy a member of this forum. Which is the only reason I include the Strive for Six Wins Turtles here. They should pass the ball as well as any Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten team outside of Columbus, but they have no run game and nowhere near enough defense to be anything other than a low level, win the last game against Rutgers to make 6 wins at best. At best.
Utah
The biggest problem for Utah is that the PAWCP is so poorly regarded that they have no real margin for error. One early season loss and it is difficult to see how they can make up for it later in the season. And they start the season at Florida, and so could well be out of the picture in practical terms by September 4. Anyway, they return a lot of talent on offense, including their Rising quarterback, some studs on the line and a running back who has not died. Yet. Defensively, they got shredded at the start of the season, and by The and need to replace a few key players. I like them to win the PAWCP, but just do not trust them in the playoff picture.
University of California *
The end of the Helton era got ugly ugly ugly. Ugly like a public restroom at Mar A Lago. I expect Lincoln to emancipate them from the shackles of the pointless decision to keep Helton on but I also think it will take time. Except Michigan State showed how quick a team can turn around in the modern version of the CFB through the judicious and lucky use of the transfer portal, and boy did USC try to do that. Caleb Williams had a Heisman bandwagon rolling for a few games last year for a reason, even if he faded near the end of the year. He gives the Trojenz a unique player to center their offense around, and the addition of last years best WR (well, no, but Jordan Addison did win the Biletnikoff Award), plus a couple good backs means the offense should be dynamic. But that was a really bad defense last year, and I do not think stealing Grinch is enough to fix it over night.
Oregon
True interesting fact: except for 2019, the Ducks have lost at least one game to a team with a losing record every year since 2015. Dan Lanning was a very off brand hire for them. They have made their bones by offense and it is the offense I worry about this year. Their leading rusher NILed out south, and to quarterback the team they brought in is Bo Nix. Which guarantees two things: a couple games where they pull the game out thanks to a superhuman play, and a couple games where he just flat out sucks. It is a trade off, but it is a trade off a PAWCP team cannot afford if they want to make the final four.
Texas
Yeah, no. They have been labelled as back before and have not been. Not until they prove otherwise. Also, their top 2 quarterback candidates are Quinn Ewers and Hudson Card, and I refuse to support a team that just makes up names like that.
Oklahoma
Well, a defensive coach? That is a new look for the Sooners. There is always a lot of talent in Oklahoma, but their top 2 QBs portalled and they brought in a decent starter from a second tier school. Their O Line was mediocre last year and while they should be better they are still a question. Defensively, they lost some good talent on the D line (I hope, Cleveland drafted a couple of them) and overall, the defense had issues. Venable is an experienced defensive coordinator, so he should help in the long run, but I am only concerned about this year. And I mean concerned in a couple of ways.
Baylor
They lost almost all of their skill position players from offense last year, but that includes the QB who was beaten out by a new guy. Still, they need to have new players step up at WR and RB to be in the playoff picture even with a very good line, and that is too much of a gamble for me. They need to replace some people in the back end of their defense as well.
Cincinnati and The Group of Six
It was nice to see a couple of new teams in the playoffs last year (yes, them too) even if they were little more than speed bumps on the road to the God apostrophe s Conference Title Game II. But Cinci in particular lost an absolute shit ton of quality players on both sides of the ball. I know Fickell can recruit and coach, but Cinci is not Alabama. I expect a regression. As for the rest of the non-power conferences, I know that a team will surprise me and win 11 or so regular season games, but something like Cincis run last year? I do not see it.
So who is my last playoff team?
I am going to take Utah to beat Florida Saturday, so I will go with them. I recognize the high probability of this being considered Most Wrong.very, very early on.
* Southern
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
Me. Not paying for it. Been watching the SEC network though since its inception, at no extra charge. Same for the ACC Network.
Don't get me wrong I would have loved to see those BIG games for the last few years. But, just like the PAC, I wasn't paying extra for them.
I have had it free on every system i have ever had. Even here. It is premium where you live?
Cargo never disappoints. Still dumb as a rock.
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
Me. Not paying for it. Been watching the SEC network though since its inception, at no extra charge. Same for the ACC Network.
Don't get me wrong I would have loved to see those BIG games for the last few years. But, just like the PAC, I wasn't paying extra for them.
I have had it free on every system i have ever had. Even here. It is premium where you live?
Yes, it's a level up on my box. PAC too.
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
Me. Not paying for it. Been watching the SEC network though since its inception, at no extra charge. Same for the ACC Network.
Don't get me wrong I would have loved to see those BIG games for the last few years. But, just like the PAC, I wasn't paying extra for them.
I have had it free on every system i have ever had. Even here. It is premium where you live?
Cargo never disappoints. Still dumb as a rock.
No Numbnuts. Just an incredibly cheap bastard. I won't even pay for a cell phone. I'd get rid of the internet, but it would deprive me of two things. One the ability to point out what an asswipe you are,(I'd say complete asswipe, but you lack the ability to do anything right, even be a moron)
And two, the odd occasion to tell Stevo to STFU.
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Great. Elipses too?
The South Atlantic League
Who? I know there should be at least one other Sally team that wins double digits but I do not see any other team that could make the Top 10, let alone the playoffs.
Meatchicken
Well, they got past the The hump last year, for the first time since Luke Fickell coached The, and made the playoffs. Sure, they got shut down by Georgia, but who the hell did not? But this year? The two huge disrupters they had on the D Line have gone on to the pros, and they took most of the defensive line pressure with them. The offense was pretty steady but unspectacular last year, and will be again this year, though they continue to have the LSU problem, which is, how can a team that recruits this well continue to not find The Guy to be quarterback? It has been their weak point offensively for quite a while. It is not like Mcs cannot play, but that neither has seized control of the team is a bad sign since as they say if you have two quarterbacks you have no quarterbacks. Anyway, they certainly have the potential, particularly given the Wisconsin level OOC they have this year, to make another run at the playoffs. I think The is on a different plane this year (and pissed) and I discount a second place Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten East team for the same reason I do it for the God apostrophe s Conference teams.
The Pennsylvania State University
PSU went PU at the end of last year, 2 and 6 over the last 8 games. And the one really dynamic offensive player they had, Jahan Nissan, is gone. Sure they had a stout defense, but they have a poor, bland offense and I see no reason to think they will find the spark that will allow them to be an elite team. You probably are unaware that I am a fan of one of the other Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten East teams since I strive for total objectivity, and as a fan of another IINBT West team I can say I do not fear Penn State. I think they are the fourth best team in the Increasingly Inaccurately Names Big Ten East.
Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten West
Normally I have one of the IINBTW teams in my Top 10, but since I am looking at potential playoff teams instead of a Top 10 this year let me just say, I do not see it. It is not that the West half is bad, but there just does not seem to be a team that can elevate.
Maryland
I always try to include every team the members of this forum are directly connected to in my write ups. And I still consider the mostly absent yankguy a member of this forum. Which is the only reason I include the Strive for Six Wins Turtles here. They should pass the ball as well as any Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten team outside of Columbus, but they have no run game and nowhere near enough defense to be anything other than a low level, win the last game against Rutgers to make 6 wins at best. At best.
Utah
The biggest problem for Utah is that the PAWCP is so poorly regarded that they have no real margin for error. One early season loss and it is difficult to see how they can make up for it later in the season. And they start the season at Florida, and so could well be out of the picture in practical terms by September 4. Anyway, they return a lot of talent on offense, including their Rising quarterback, some studs on the line and a running back who has not died. Yet. Defensively, they got shredded at the start of the season, and by The and need to replace a few key players. I like them to win the PAWCP, but just do not trust them in the playoff picture.
University of California *
The end of the Helton era got ugly ugly ugly. Ugly like a public restroom at Mar A Lago. I expect Lincoln to emancipate them from the shackles of the pointless decision to keep Helton on but I also think it will take time. Except Michigan State showed how quick a team can turn around in the modern version of the CFB through the judicious and lucky use of the transfer portal, and boy did USC try to do that. Caleb Williams had a Heisman bandwagon rolling for a few games last year for a reason, even if he faded near the end of the year. He gives the Trojenz a unique player to center their offense around, and the addition of last years best WR (well, no, but Jordan Addison did win the Biletnikoff Award), plus a couple good backs means the offense should be dynamic. But that was a really bad defense last year, and I do not think stealing Grinch is enough to fix it over night.
Oregon
True interesting fact: except for 2019, the Ducks have lost at least one game to a team with a losing record every year since 2015. Dan Lanning was a very off brand hire for them. They have made their bones by offense and it is the offense I worry about this year. Their leading rusher NILed out south, and to quarterback the team they brought in is Bo Nix. Which guarantees two things: a couple games where they pull the game out thanks to a superhuman play, and a couple games where he just flat out sucks. It is a trade off, but it is a trade off a PAWCP team cannot afford if they want to make the final four.
Texas
Yeah, no. They have been labelled as back before and have not been. Not until they prove otherwise. Also, their top 2 quarterback candidates are Quinn Ewers and Hudson Card, and I refuse to support a team that just makes up names like that.
Oklahoma
Well, a defensive coach? That is a new look for the Sooners. There is always a lot of talent in Oklahoma, but their top 2 QBs portalled and they brought in a decent starter from a second tier school. Their O Line was mediocre last year and while they should be better they are still a question. Defensively, they lost some good talent on the D line (I hope, Cleveland drafted a couple of them) and overall, the defense had issues. Venable is an experienced defensive coordinator, so he should help in the long run, but I am only concerned about this year. And I mean concerned in a couple of ways.
Baylor
They lost almost all of their skill position players from offense last year, but that includes the QB who was beaten out by a new guy. Still, they need to have new players step up at WR and RB to be in the playoff picture even with a very good line, and that is too much of a gamble for me. They need to replace some people in the back end of their defense as well.
Cincinnati and The Group of Six
It was nice to see a couple of new teams in the playoffs last year (yes, them too) even if they were little more than speed bumps on the road to the God apostrophe s Conference Title Game II. But Cinci in particular lost an absolute shit ton of quality players on both sides of the ball. I know Fickell can recruit and coach, but Cinci is not Alabama. I expect a regression. As for the rest of the non-power conferences, I know that a team will surprise me and win 11 or so regular season games, but something like Cincis run last year? I do not see it.
So who is my last playoff team?
I am going to take Utah to beat Florida Saturday, so I will go with them. I recognize the high probability of this being considered Most Wrong.very, very early on.
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Good stuff all of it.
Alabama.
Are the Spartans ready for the Bronco's running game? Can you guys score? And what are your thoughts on Tennessee? 7-5? 8-4? 9-3? 6-6?
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I am not worried about WMU running game. I am worried about ours. And I am not worried about their running offense.
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Oh, and I think Tennessee goes 5 and 0, gets ranked and discussed as a surprise contender, and goes maybe 2 and 5 or 3 and 4 on the home stretch.
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EVENTUAL 2022 2023 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 37, WESTERN MICHIGAN 16
Hopefully, this is a tune up. WMU does have a good running game, but their starting QB threw 7 passes last season, and their top receiver graduated. So, not the biggest test of our biggest weakness. They also lost some key pinemen, so that plays into our defensive strength. I expect Eventual 2022 Heisman Trophy Winner Peyton Thorne to have a big day in the half and a few he plays, although WMU had a pretty good pass rush last year, so I will be interested to watch our line play. I will also like to see how our B and B backfield shakes out.
Methchicken 42, Colorado State 10
I do not want to dog Meatchicken too hard about their lame OOC, because it is unusual for them, but they are really eating cupcakes this year. I am not sure which Mc they are starting at QB, but I do not think it matters.
Georgia 27, Oregon 14
I guess Oregon is technically the home team, but the game is in Atlanta. I think my feelings about Bo Nix are known. Georgia will still have a great, but not super human, defense, so I do not see Oregon putting a lot of points on the board. I think the offense is competent enough to score enough, and while the defense lost a lot, Georgia has benefited from some Smart recruiting and the fill ins should be fine.
Arkansas 35, Cincinnati 17
So did Cinci reload, or do they need to rebuild? We start answering that question this week, with a game against an Arkansas team that were better than expected last year and that some of the more knowledgeable experts (me) think are a decent bet for 10 wins despite the early season whoopin from Alabama and playing the toughest divisions in CFB. And Cinci replaces a QB who had ben there for 7 years, roughly, and their top running back and WR. That is a lot for anyone outside of the elite to replace, especially in game 1 against a talented team.
University of California * 31, Rice 14
Closely watching the Trojan rebuild, but this game will not tell us anything. Rice should be boiled straight off, left to simmer on low for exactly 12 minutes, and then fluffed with a fork. Because they are done. Though it will be interesting to see how well Riley incorporates Williams into a standard west coast style offense.
Utah 28, Florida 20
Probably the second game I am keeping an eye on Saturday. As I noted, I have the Utes making the playoffs, so there is something on the line for me here. I noted that I thought Florida has a shot at being the second best team in God apostrophe s Conference East this year, but the more I look at it the more I doubt it. I think their hire was a very good one, but there was a lot wrong with the team last year that he needs to fix. Utah is just solid everywhere, and they have a quarterback whose name I have turned into a stupid joke way to many times for anyone but me to tolerate but I am doing it again who is a Rising player. This is not Urban Meyers Florida team, but it is not Dan Mullins team either. I just do not think they flip that switch right away.
The 45, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 28
Hooray to both teams for starting out with this. I think The The offense is absolutely loaded, All Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten candidates, if not All American candidates at nearly every position. They should be fun to watch. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie has a lot of talent too, so it should be fun. I just think the The offense is too high powered to stop.
Purdue 24, the Pennsylvania State University 17
Well, was the last 8 games what PSU really is? I just do not see the offense. I mean Clifford is a decent enough dual threat guy, but I am not sure where else the explosiveness comes from.
Maryland Who Cares, Buffalo What Difference Does It Make
Or, let us say 31 17. Maryland can throw the ball. They may need work running it, or blocking, or defending the run, or defending the pass. But they can pass. And unless Josh Allen is taking the field Buffalo is a second rate team in a third rate conference.
the Louisiana State 27, the Florida State 17
Remember when this would have been the real match up of the weekend? It was not that long ago, both have won championships in the last ten years. But they both have had issues since. Mike Norvell is pretty high up on the Most Fired list right now, and he needs a fast start to get the program past their fourth straight losing season. Think about that for a moment, FSU went the entire Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama administrations without a losing season. The LSU crash was precipitous, and it is easy to pinpoint for its cause. They now have a top flight proven coach and they continue to recruit well. I expect them to start the rebound this week.
ClemSIN 24, Georgia Tech 14
As I mentioned in my recap, I expect ClemSIN to shake out of last years offensive doldrums, and have an excellent defense. 24 points against a team coming off a three win season for a coach also high up on the Most Fired list. It do not think the score will be as close as I have it here, I am sort of hedging on the offensive rebound a bit.
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Oh, and I think Tennessee goes 5 and 0, gets ranked and discussed as a surprise contender, and goes maybe 2 and 5 or 3 and 4 on the home stretch.
Yeah, that's my thinking too. Any team that can hold down their offense will most likely beat them. They've got themselves a good DC. What they lack is the players. Still, I've seen no names and raw talent succeed at times. With a whole lot of luck. I give em a shot at 8-4.
The Broncos lost most of their passing game, so I tend to agree with you. Personally, I would have tried to convince Speed to play safety. But then he might not have come to the Spartie party. He's a quality athlete who just ran up against better athletes in Georgia.
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
Me. Not paying for it. Been watching the SEC network though since its inception, at no extra charge. Same for the ACC Network.
Don't get me wrong I would have loved to see those BIG games for the last few years. But, just like the PAC, I wasn't paying extra for them.
I have had it free on every system i have ever had. Even here. It is premium where you live?
Cargo never disappoints. Still dumb as a rock.
No Numbnuts. Just an incredibly cheap bastard. I won't even pay for a cell phone. I'd get rid of the internet, but it would deprive me of two things. One the ability to point out what an asswipe you are,(I'd say complete asswipe, but you lack the ability to do anything right, even be a moron)
And two, the odd occasion to tell Stevo to STFU.
A bunch of insults but no answer to the question.
Which is succinct at two words.
No One.
The Big Ten now has TV revenue of one billion$ a year thanks largely to a vision that began 15 years ago( to much derision) that begat the BTN. Now every league has something similar but only the Big Ten has a footprint stretching lengthwise across the mainland with 4 of the five top tv markets in tow and campuses in a host of our largest cities.
This does not guarantee a yearly national champion in any sport.
It is just confirmation of a well constructed and developed business plan that rivals the NFL in thinking.
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Anybody laughing at the Big Ten Network now?
Me. Not paying for it. Been watching the SEC network though since its inception, at no extra charge. Same for the ACC Network.
Don't get me wrong I would have loved to see those BIG games for the last few years. But, just like the PAC, I wasn't paying extra for them.
I have had it free on every system i have ever had. Even here. It is premium where you live?
Cargo never disappoints. Still dumb as a rock.
No Numbnuts. Just an incredibly cheap bastard. I won't even pay for a cell phone. I'd get rid of the internet, but it would deprive me of two things. One the ability to point out what an asswipe you are,(I'd say complete asswipe, but you lack the ability to do anything right, even be a moron)
And two, the odd occasion to tell Stevo to STFU.
A bunch of insults but no answer to the question.
Which is succinct at two words.
No One.
The Big Ten now has TV revenue of one billion$ a year thanks largely to a vision that began 15 years ago( to much derision) that begat the BTN. Now every league has something similar but only the Big Ten has a footprint stretching lengthwise across the mainland with 4 of the five top tv markets in tow and campuses in a host of our largest cities.
This does not guarantee a yearly national champion in any sport.
It is just confirmation of a well constructed and developed business plan that rivals the NFL in thinking.
The question, such as it was, was answered. As far as the insults are concerned, no charge.
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Nice to see an old style rivalry game renewed. Sadly with the money whores running rampant they will soon be a thing of the past. W Virginia blew it not going for it on 4th and one with the chance to put the game away
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Nice to see an old style rivalry game renewed.
Yes it was and an exciting one, to boot.
Sadly with the money whores running rampant they will soon be a thing of the past.
I think just the opposite. Notre Dame and TOSU are at it for just the 7th time in History on Saturday.
How is it that the two who have combined for top five all time records in Wins,Winning per cent age,19 national championships, 18 Heismans, and 1,001 NFL players have scheduled only 4 regular season games,the last one 26 years ago.? The other two meetings were in post season.
It seems Notre Dame, whose gaudy all time numbers are based on its early dominance, is going to want more matchups like this one to stay in the national picture.
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I thought I was told this would never happen. . .
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/college-football-playoff-expand-12-teams
Meanwhile over at God apostrophe s Conference and the cap household, they are trying to figure out which two teams will not get in.
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Peyton.Thorne does NOT have the arm for that throw.
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I thought I was told this would never happen. . .
You ignored the Golden Rule ofCollege Football.
Keep saying NEVER until the deal is one no one can refuse..
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Something about Columbus just flat out screams "boring white rapper" in a jeans jacket.
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TWO safeties?
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I thought I was told this would never happen. . .
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/college-football-playoff-expand-12-teams
Meanwhile over at God apostrophe s Conference and the cap household, they are trying to figure out which two teams will not get in.
Money is College Football's God now. Just ask Skippy. And c'mon, I'm thinking 3 teams won't get in. Be real dude.
Georgia is dominating poor, possibly BIG 10errrsumpthin bound, Oregon. Malaki Starks has been impressive, likin this kid a lot. Iowa looked sharp today. Nebraska one of the BIG's acquisitions is slamming North Dakota.
On another note, N.C. State was ranked 13th why?
And Colgate travelled all the way to the left coast? Ya gotta love that.
On a serious note: The Wolverines looked all business today. They'd be a fair to middlin team in the SEC.
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Iowa v SoDa was on at the same time as North Carolina v App State. Hard to believe they were playing the same sport.
Sideline reporter to Smart at the half: how do you plan to keep Nix bottled up in the 2nd half. Steve on his couch: LET HIM BE BO NIX.
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Iowa v SoDa was on at the same time as North Carolina v App State. Hard to believe they were playing the same sport.
Sideline reporter to Smart at the half: how do you plan to keep Nix bottled up in the 2nd half. Steve on his couch: LET HIM BE BO NIX.
Georgia's Smart, IMO has reloaded that defense with the aplomb of Saint Saban himself.
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I really hate cornerbacks that won't or either can't turn their heads and look for the football. IMO that's one of the top three traits CBs should have or be taught. Backpedal, hipturn, and ball visual acquisition. Yes, crazy fast speed is great. And size is great. Armlength is great. But you can do an awful lot with just those three assets against players with better raw physical traits than you.
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Stroud feeling the ND defense out. Not trying to force anything, I like that.
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Stroud dialing in. Really like watching this kid. Too bad he's Buckeyed.
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OSU/ND tonight gave us a game that many of us would have liked to have seen had Woody and Ara
ever had the chance.
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A bad day for the PAWCP. I think they may already be out of the CFP picture. It looks like Georgia has a better offense than I had supposed. Or Oregon is massively worse. G defense looks like it has not missed a beat, but I wonder. Oregon moved the ball early, until that second Nixterecption. That seems to have taken the heart if them.
The Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten managed some near escapes, and that God Awful excuse for a football game between Iowa and SoDa, relatively intact. Big win for The, but their WR room may be overestimated. The defense looked great, though, and they have a nice complimentary pair of running backs. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie looked faster then they have been in the past.
Strange day for North Carolina and State. And Pitt struggled with a so so WVa.
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What an absolute dick punch of an ending for LSU. Kelly should have gone for two.
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Clemson offense looking bad.
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EVENTUAL 2022 2023 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 38, Akron 10
Winzawin, as I always say, but I was far from gruntled about how our offense played Saturday. Eventual 2022 Heisman Trophy Winner Payton Thorne looked off, and his connection with Reed just did not seem to be there. Our B and B did manage to run the ball fairly well, though. That said, WMU is a top half of the MAC team, and Akron is, well, not. I would like to see more consistency and accuracy from Thorne. Defensively, looks like the portal players have potential, especially the Wind Man and Bogle. Concerned that there will be no Snow in EL for the rest of the year, but we did look like we had some answers to the disastrous defense of last year.
The 49, Arkansas State 3
I was very impressed with the defense from Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie. They looked fast and well coached. Some of that may have been rust from Stroud. Without Smith Njigba, he just seemed to not be on the same page as the rest of the apparently talented crew. SN has a hammy that will keep him out until they play a team that does not suck, so The has the chance to get the chemistry going with Harrison and Egbuka and the rest before they get to the Increasingly Inappropriately Named Big Ten season. But the encouraging news for The is the way the running game took charge in the second half and just ground down OLotPT. Williams and Henderson make a nice combination that should open up the passing game and allow The to control the lead. Defensively, I am not sure how great OLotPT is on offense, but it sure seems at first blush like The has solved last years biggest issue.
Alabama 49, Texas 17
Look, no one expected USU to contend with Alabama, but it is worth noting they won their conference and beat a PAWCP team in the Jimmy Kimmel Bowl last year. Alabama looked damned impressive eating their cup cake. They are what we thought they were, and look like the best bet to win it all again. Bastards. Texas also ate their cupcake and their The refugee QB handled his debut OK. I just do not think they can hang with an involved and interested Alabama. Saban has lost exactly once to a former coach. Last year, in the CFP championship game to the best defense we have seen in years. So, I am going with involved and interested.
ClemSIN 35, Furman 0
Two things from Monday. ClemSIN has a great defense. And offensively, they need work. The end result looked good, but the running game struggled and Ukulele struggled. I note Miss Kubelik got some real world game time in. I suspect after last year a short leash. Anyway, the Hirsute should not be much of a challenge.
Tennessee 35, Pitt 24
I noted before I expect Tennessee to go 5 and 0 over the first half of the season and get overrated as a result, and I stand by that. Love their offense and Fightin Hendon Hooker. They Balled State up good last week, Pitt struggled running the ball against a not that great Morgantown School of Applied Technology and Slovis was just decent throwing it. There is a reason he is not a Trojan. And a reason he is a starter. He can keep them good, I doubt he can take Pitt to an elite level. Tennessee is suspect defensively though, so could well be more high scoring than I have it here.
Wisconsin 27, Washington State 7
Again, we are dealing with cupcakes here, but Metz was unspectacularly efficient against Ill State, and the Wisky running game was, well, what we generally expect from Wisky. Wazzou, on the other hand, almost lost to its Palousean neighbor cupcake. Wazzou has a defensive front that does present a nice challenge to the Wisky run game, but I think the Wisky will be too strong, and Braelon Allen will continue to demonstrate why Jalen Berger is ours now.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 31, Marshall 10
As I mentioned above, that is a nice looking defense for the Tie Playing For Bastards, at least until The wore them down. They are going to be good. They appeared to have offensive issues, though how much of that will ease when the new QB gains experience, and how much of that was attributable to the The defense remains to be seen. Should not be a problem with Marshall.
the Oklahoma State 37, the Arizona State 10
I really think the end is coming for Herm Edwards. Okie State admittedly struggled defensively; one of the numerous alma maters for my mater actually outgained them. You know, maybe this Knowles guy IS some kind of genius. Anyway, I think their offense with Spencer Sanders can score against the Sun Devils. I read nothing into the ASU chopping down the Lumberjacks.
Methchicken 42, Hawaii 10
McNamara was not impressive. Sure Meatchicken smoked Colorado State like so much Rocky Mounyain trout, but it was not because of that Mc. So, this week it is McCarthy with a chance to claim the job. Harbaugh is treating his cupcakes like the pre season it is. The defense looked very good against CSU, but I do not think we will know how good they are for a couple weeks. Good enough to down Hawaii, though.
Baylor 31, Brigham Young 27
The last of the three ranked teams game. I do not have a read on either team beyond my start of the year views. I like Baylor to win the Pure Prairie League and I think they are a threat for the playoffs. But you learn nothing from playing Albany. You learn a little more from SoFla, I guess, so BYU may have a stout run game. And while Baylor beared down on the oh jesus Great Danes? Really? The dog or my people? You do not learn anything from that game.
Florida 31, Kentucky 28
Well, Florida knocked out one of my pre season playoff teams last week, so some respect. And Richardson looks like a real dual threat. Defensively, they gave up a lot of yards to the Utes, but, and I must stress this, that is a real good offense they faced in game 1. KY jelled late against the lesser of the Miamis. I would have liked better numbers from Jeans Boy against a middling MAC school, but a little rust is expected in game 1. Should be a good game.
University of California * 35, Stanford 17
Is USC the PAWCP last chance to get in the playoffs? Last weeks debacle from Oregon hurts the entire PAWCP in the CFP hunt because it reinforces the negative views of the conference. Utah losing to Florida, maybe less so. But it means that the Marge Genovera is paper thin. USC has a chance because they have that game against OLotPT on the horizon. The three pick 6 against Rice does not mean that they have solved their defense any more than Stanford brushing and spitting out Colgate means that they have improved that much from last years 3 and 9 team. Whatever defense issues they have, though, Caleb Williams can don the cape and he is at home in that offense.
the Pennsylvania State University 35, Ohio but not The Ohio 10
The PSU was better offensively and much worse defensively than I expected them to be. Purdue shredded them through the air, but PSU passed the ball better than I expected from seventh year senior Clifford. The Bobcats are not a challenge.
Iowa 4, the Iowa State 3
Sweet Holy Mary was that an awful game from Iowa last week. Watching even five minutes of it made me want to open a vein.
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Boy, Alabama looks really poorly coached today. Time for a change.
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Really, Texas? You thought you were winning?
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Wow. App State!
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And Marshall!
No playoffs for Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie!
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Is the Sunbelt Conf a power 5 now? and where did they dig up the officials for Texas / Alabama
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Scott Frost seizes the early lead in the "Most Fired" contest. And Kirk Ferentz leads in the "Most Politely Elbowed Into Retirement" sweepstakes.
A great day for the Sun Belt Conference, while the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten lost all of its Power Five games. And who knew completely botching a safety call could have such an impact on the CFP race.
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I am not sure if I forgot that Virginia was a P5 team, or that Illinois is in the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten.
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And Marshall!
No playoffs for Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie!
Careful bro, if you trip, you'll pole vault right out the window.
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Is the Sunbelt Conf a power 5 now? and where did they dig up the officials for Texas / Alabama
Some really bad calls. But the eventual endzone call, I think, was the correct one. I could be wrong. My train of thought is this: Assuming there was no whistle before the Bama QB threw the ball. He wasn't down when he threw it, and it was deflected by a Texas player. So, no intentional grounding in the endzone. Just an incomplete pass. Had it not been deflected and wasn't intercepted it "might" of crossed the LOS. With the deflection that point is moot though. But to be truthful I really don't know the rule well enough to be sure I'm right or wrong.
But several pass interference calls and personal foul calls were missed as well as a ton of holding calls all over the field. Sloppy SLOPPY game for Bama. They looked like shit.
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Is the Sunbelt Conf a power 5 now? and where did they dig up the officials for Texas / Alabama
Some really bad calls. But the eventual endzone call, I think, was the correct one. I could be wrong. My train of thought is this: Assuming there was no whistle before the Bama QB threw the ball. He wasn't down when he threw it, and it was deflected by a Texas player. So, no intentional grounding in the endzone. Just an incomplete pass. Had it not been deflected and wasn't intercepted it "might" of crossed the LOS. With the deflection that point is moot though. But to be truthful I really don't know the rule well enough to be sure I'm right or wrong.
But several pass interference calls and personal foul calls were missed as well as a ton of holding calls all over the field. Sloppy SLOPPY game for Bama. They looked like shit.
The deflection only matter if the throw was aimed at an eligible receiver, which it was not.
Alabama looked awful. And while I expect Satan to dry the sloppiness out of them, I would still worry about that WR room.
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Is the Sunbelt Conf a power 5 now? and where did they dig up the officials for Texas / Alabama
Where did they get the players and coaches who do not know the rules?
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The deflection only matter if the throw was aimed at an eligible receiver, which it was not.
I think the NFL is better.
The QB was in the grasp and the logical result of that play would be a safety.
Kudos to the officials for sorting out the college rules even if they were confused at first.
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Nebraska has cooled on Frost.
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Is the Sunbelt Conf a power 5 now? and where did they dig up the officials for Texas / Alabama
Some really bad calls. But the eventual endzone call, I think, was the correct one. I could be wrong. My train of thought is this: Assuming there was no whistle before the Bama QB threw the ball. He wasn't down when he threw it, and it was deflected by a Texas player. So, no intentional grounding in the endzone. Just an incomplete pass. Had it not been deflected and wasn't intercepted it "might" of crossed the LOS. With the deflection that point is moot though. But to be truthful I really don't know the rule well enough to be sure I'm right or wrong.
But several pass interference calls and personal foul calls were missed as well as a ton of holding calls all over the field. Sloppy SLOPPY game for Bama. They looked like shit.
The deflection only matter if the throw was aimed at an eligible receiver, which it was not.
I assume you have proof or have seen proof of that, so I'll take your word for it.
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The deflection only matter if the throw was aimed at an eligible receiver, which it was not.
I think that would be impossible to officiate.
In the Texas/Alabama Game the pass in question was thrown forward and almost immediately batted away to fall incomplete. No official can guess where it might have gone.
My only question is if the offense throws an incomplete pass in the end zone which does not travel beyond the end zone is it , by rule, intentional grounding?
I guess not.
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Strange lists of names as potential replacements for Frost. They keep including people who already have good gigs, like Matt Campbell and Mark Stoops. I would think the Nebraska job would be awful. A has been program with a community that thinks they should still be great. A lot of pressure with a small chance of success. I suppose for Stoops, they could pitch the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten West as an easier road than the God's Conference East, but Nebraska is further away from even the expanded playoffs than Kentucky.
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Nebraska is where college coaches go to die.
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Smaller college coaches, or pro, or college assistants, may go there if the money is good enough. But they gotta know they are doomed.
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EVENTUAL 2022 2023 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 27, WASHINGTON 20
They damn well better win. One of my staff is a UW grad and I do not want to have to skip work for two weeks to avoid the gloating. Anyway, we need to run more. I know that is not the direction CFB is going, but we run and run block pretty well. On the other hand, Eventual 2022 Heisman Trophy Winner Peyton Thorne has just seemed a little off this year, missing throws he should make and his arm strength seems to have diminished. Better to rely on Berger and Brousard, our Bed and Breakfast Bread and Butter. Washington seems to have put last years offensive issues aside, and they have been pretty effective through the air, which is troubling for us still. Pennix gave us problems when he was at IU, as dual threat QBs do. Still, I think we can control the ball offensively enough to take this game.
The 49, Toledo 17
Given where Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie is right now, it seems I may have overestimated the rebound of the The defense. The handled their Arkansas State with ease, but before they lost Ark did drive the ball on The on occasion. But The has a monster running back combination to deal with, and Stroud has shown good chemistry with Harrison in the absence of Smith Njoku. So offensively, they should light up the I think Mud Hens? No, light up the Rockets. How did I miss that lame ass joke? Toledo has shown good offense against two terrible teams, so they should get a couple of scores and hang for a bit, until the depth, running strength and across the board better athleticism of The wins out.
Tennessee 49, Akron 0
We beat them 52 to 0. That is sort of the benchmark. The Akron dual threat QB that gave us some trouble got hurt, and given the whole half time trip to the hospital thing I assume he is not playing. Tennessee does not have much of a defense but then again, Akron has no offense.
Methchicken 59, Connecticut 3
There is a chance, just a chance, that Meatchicken will survive their brutal OOC schedule unscathed. Harbaugh has decided on his QB at last. I am not sure if Yukon is as bad as it has been in recent years, but I am pretty sure it is not good.
Oklahoma 42, Nebraska 7
Oh the days when this mattered, and was always great. I miss watching college football with my father. This one was always a highlight of the last week of the year, I associate it with the fire in the fireplace, hot dogs for dinner, a Saturday glued to the TV. I miss it. We should go back to those days. Now, get off my lawn!
Georgia 31, South Carogoddamnlina 3
Did I underestimate Georgia? Maybe, but though they eventually crushed Oregon, for a while Oregon moved the ball, only to have Bo Nix Bonix, and you cannot read anything into a game against Samford. Still, they are putting out a monster defense, and Stetson Bennett IV, Esq. is playing like he does not know he should not win the Heisman. The Cocks suck themselves, so I expect UGA to win big.
Auburn 28, the Pennsylvania State University 24
Last years game was pretty good. Nice to see these games between the Power 2 Conferences. I would like to see them later in the year as well, in the north. Anyway, the PSU has been better than I thought on offense, although the not the Ohio is nothing to boast about, and Singleton looks like he has some chops. Auburn did struggle against the San Jose State, but I think they can use the home field to their advantage.
Oregon 24, Brigham Young 21
Well, eventually there will be a Good Bo Nix game. He was always better at home then on the road when he was at Auburn, so why not a Good Bo Nix game here? And I am prepared to post the answer to this question next week as quote BECAUSE HE IS BO FUCKING NIX end quote.
University of California** 42, the Fresno State 32
What is going to happen when SC plays a team that does not turn the ball over on a routine basis? The offense is impressive, Caleb Williams is a stud, the receivers look great. But the defense is, well, not. Fresno State is not a pushover, and I doubt they will gift SC the ball like Stanford and Rice did. So while I expect scoring to keep happening for SC, I expect the games to start being closer for them.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 17, University of California 13***
OLotPT is going to miss their starting QB for the rest of the year. This would be the definition of addition by subtraction. Or will the team Pyne for Buchner by the end of Saturday? I think Buchner got the job because of the dual threat thing, but it looked to me like Marshall did not give a shit about the pass, with OLotPT also missing its best receiver. So if Pyne can chuck it, that might help open things up for a running game that has been nowhere. Anyway, Cal has been merely OK against UC David, whoever that is, and was barely adequate against UNLV, despite their having Jack the Snack Plummer at QB, so I expect a low scoring game.
Texas A and M 27, the Miami with Palm Trees 21
Pissed. I think that will be the word for TAMU this week. I doubt practices were much fun. Miami has played a SWAAC team, and a team that lost to Liberty, so this is their first real test. Despite the literal dog turd TAMU laid down Saturday, they are still a very talented team. I am interested to see how they rebound.
ClemSIN 35, Louisiana Tech 3
Ukelele is still concerning, and the running game is not what it needs to be. It will be interesting to see the Woke game in two weeks. But LaTech was the second worst time in CUSA last year, and I have seen nothing to indicate they are substantially better this year. There may be a day of reckoning for SWINEys boys but that is not this day.
Maryland 31, Southern Methodist 28
Maryland better be ready. SMU hung tough with a couple of the AACs better teams last year, so they are a real threat to a mediocre Maryland. Would not be surprised to see another P5 loss here.
Syracuse 35, Purdue 31
You know who I gave no thought to as a threat in the South Atlantic League this year? Syracuse. My bad. They have had an efficient passing game, and an effective running game in winning their first two games. I think Purducken is better than either the Ville or Yukon this year, though. I like them, they gave the PSU a run for her money. Game is in the, well, it is no longer the Carrier Dome, is it. I will take the home field advantage.
* I have a Wilde sense of humor.
** Southern
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According to Saban, Alabama "did" have a receiver, Jase McClellan, in the vicinity on the "safety" call. "If" he's right, then the incomplete pass call is correct.
Here, "maybe" is a photo that proves him right. It shows a partial view of an Alabama player behind a Texas player No. 13. I don't know who it is, and really it doesn't matter. any Bama player would do. The real referee video replay should have been for intentional grounding. Too bad there is no replay allowed for that unless it's called. It wasn't. Then the play would have been put to bed like it should have. But looking at the photo and to extrapolating from the video of Young's throw it was heading in that Bama player's direction. Thoughts?
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA11GuC2.img?w=768&h=432&m=6
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1)
Now I wish I had an overhead video. LOL
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Georgia 31, South Carogoddamnlina 3
Did I underestimate Georgia? Maybe, but though they eventually crushed Oregon, for a while Oregon moved the ball, only to have Bo Nix Bonix, and you cannot read anything into a game against Samford. Still, they are putting out a monster defense, and Stetson Bennett IV, Esq. is playing like he does not know he should not win the Heisman. The Cocks suck themselves, so I expect UGA to win big.
I always wonder about how many points the underdog scores after the outcome is no longer in doubt. But the Dawg second team is also so loaded with talent just itching to get some contact. Smart IMO is the best defensive minded coach in the college game today. After he left Alabama the Tide defenses were still good. But IMO not as dominant as when Smart was there. Schumann and Muschamp make a formidable defensive coaching combo in their own right. After watching them dismantle Oregon I think Georgia has the nation's best defense. Their offense however is still shaky at QB due to their potential problem with injury. Neither one of their top 2 QBs is 100 percent heathy maybe not even 80 percent healthy. So, it might not end up looking as lopsided as it really was final score-wise. But I look for the Dawg defense to be responsible for at least a couple of scores in this game. If not outright, then at least setting to offense up.
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According to Saban, Alabama "did" have a receiver, Jase McClellan, in the vicinity on the "safety" call. "If" he's right, then the incomplete pass call is correct.
Here, "maybe" is a photo that proves him right. It shows a partial view of an Alabama player behind a Texas player No. 13. I don't know who it is, and really it doesn't matter. any Bama player would do. The real referee video replay should have been for intentional grounding. Too bad there is no replay allowed for that unless it's called. It wasn't. Then the play would have been put to bed like it should have. But looking at the photo and to extrapolating from the video of Young's throw it was heading in that Bama player's direction. Thoughts?
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA11GuC2.img?w=768&h=432&m=6
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1)
Now I wish I had an overhead video. LOL
I don't think that guy was in the vicinity of where the ball was aimed. If aimed is the word I am after. But reasonable minds may differ. As may you.
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Like I said, my Kingdom for some overhead film of that play.
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According to Saban, Alabama "did" have a receiver, Jase McClellan, in the vicinity on the "safety" call. "If" he's right, then the incomplete pass call is correct.
Here, "maybe" is a photo that proves him right. It shows a partial view of an Alabama player behind a Texas player No. 13. I don't know who it is, and really it doesn't matter. any Bama player would do.
Well, no.Intentional grounding can only be judged when the ball lands , not when it is thrown. And in this case it was batted down so it was, as ruled, a simple incomplete pass.
[Saban] Bryce was not down when he threw the ball. One of their players actually touched the ball. So that made it incomplete.
End of story.
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According to Saban, Alabama "did" have a receiver, Jase McClellan, in the vicinity on the "safety" call. "If" he's right, then the incomplete pass call is correct.
Here, "maybe" is a photo that proves him right. It shows a partial view of an Alabama player behind a Texas player No. 13. I don't know who it is, and really it doesn't matter. any Bama player would do. The real referee video replay should have been for intentional grounding. Too bad there is no replay allowed for that unless it's called. It wasn't. Then the play would have been put to bed like it should have. But looking at the photo and to extrapolating from the video of Young's throw it was heading in that Bama player's direction. Thoughts?
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA11GuC2.img?w=768&h=432&m=6
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1)
Now I wish I had an overhead video. LOL
I don't think that guy was in the vicinity of where the ball was aimed. If aimed is the word I am after. But reasonable minds may differ. As may you.
An official cannot guess who an intended receiver could be until the ball lands.
And if a defender deflects it there can be no penalty for grounding.
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According to Saban, Alabama "did" have a receiver, Jase McClellan, in the vicinity on the "safety" call. "If" he's right, then the incomplete pass call is correct.
Here, "maybe" is a photo that proves him right. It shows a partial view of an Alabama player behind a Texas player No. 13. I don't know who it is, and really it doesn't matter. any Bama player would do. The real referee video replay should have been for intentional grounding. Too bad there is no replay allowed for that unless it's called. It wasn't. Then the play would have been put to bed like it should have. But looking at the photo and to extrapolating from the video of Young's throw it was heading in that Bama player's direction. Thoughts?
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA11GuC2.img?w=768&h=432&m=6
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1)
Now I wish I had an overhead video. LOL
I don't think that guy was in the vicinity of where the ball was aimed. If aimed is the word I am after. But reasonable minds may differ. As may you.
An official cannot guess who an intended receiver could be until the ball lands.
And if a defender deflects it there can be no penalty for grounding.
Actually, it hit the Georgia guy right square in the front of his helmet. But as much as it makes my gorge rise, essentially, you're right.
Egads, that's going to leave a bad taste for months.
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According to Saban, Alabama "did" have a receiver, Jase McClellan, in the vicinity on the "safety" call. "If" he's right, then the incomplete pass call is correct.
Here, "maybe" is a photo that proves him right. It shows a partial view of an Alabama player behind a Texas player No. 13. I don't know who it is, and really it doesn't matter. any Bama player would do. The real referee video replay should have been for intentional grounding. Too bad there is no replay allowed for that unless it's called. It wasn't. Then the play would have been put to bed like it should have. But looking at the photo and to extrapolating from the video of Young's throw it was heading in that Bama player's direction. Thoughts?
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA11GuC2.img?w=768&h=432&m=6
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1)
Now I wish I had an overhead video. LOL
I don't think that guy was in the vicinity of where the ball was aimed. If aimed is the word I am after. But reasonable minds may differ. As may you.
An official cannot guess who an intended receiver could be until the ball lands.
And if a defender deflects it there can be no penalty for grounding.
Actually, it hit the Georgia guy right square in the front of his helmet. But as much as it makes my gorge rise, essentially, you're right.
Egads, that's going to leave a bad taste for months.
If it hit a Georgia player we are in the wrong game.
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According to Saban, Alabama "did" have a receiver, Jase McClellan, in the vicinity on the "safety" call. "If" he's right, then the incomplete pass call is correct.
Here, "maybe" is a photo that proves him right. It shows a partial view of an Alabama player behind a Texas player No. 13. I don't know who it is, and really it doesn't matter. any Bama player would do. The real referee video replay should have been for intentional grounding. Too bad there is no replay allowed for that unless it's called. It wasn't. Then the play would have been put to bed like it should have. But looking at the photo and to extrapolating from the video of Young's throw it was heading in that Bama player's direction. Thoughts?
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA11GuC2.img?w=768&h=432&m=6
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/reggie-bush-on-uncalled-safety-for-intentional-grounding-maybe-the-worst-call-ive-ever-seen/ar-AA11G7CT?fullscreen=true&cvid=7c04393525e24adda4dc61f0b32c272b#image=1)
Now I wish I had an overhead video. LOL
I don't think that guy was in the vicinity of where the ball was aimed. If aimed is the word I am after. But reasonable minds may differ. As may you.
An official cannot guess who an intended receiver could be until the ball lands.
And if a defender deflects it there can be no penalty for grounding.
Actually, it hit the Georgia guy right square in the front of his helmet. But as much as it makes my gorge rise, essentially, you're right.
Egads, that's going to leave a bad taste for months.
If it hit a Georgia player we are in the wrong game.
Jesus, it's catching you've been right twice. What evil have I unleashed here?
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Just like a stopped clock.
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EVENTUAL 2022 2023 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 27, WASHINGTON 20
They damn well better win. One of my staff is a UW grad and I do not want to have to skip work for two weeks to avoid the gloating. Anyway, we need to run more. I know that is not the direction CFB is going, but we run and run block pretty well. On the other hand, Eventual 2022 Heisman Trophy Winner Peyton Thorne has just seemed a little off this year, missing throws he should make and his arm strength seems to have diminished. Better to rely on Berger and Brousard, our Bed and Breakfast Bread and Butter. Washington seems to have put last years offensive issues aside, and they have been pretty effective through the air, which is troubling for us still. Pennix gave us problems when he was at IU, as dual threat QBs do. Still, I think we can control the ball offensively enough to take this game.
This should be a very good game to watch. I'm predicting a Washington win, but with lots of drama right up until the end. Buuuut, if Tucker is smart enough to use all of that nice linebacking talent he has Pennix just might not know what hit him. The Spartan secondary has got some seasoning so let em hold their own Mel.
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University of California** 42, the Fresno State 32
What is going to happen when SC plays a team that does not turn the ball over on a routine basis? The offense is impressive, Caleb Williams is a stud, the receivers look great. But the defense is, well, not. Fresno State is not a pushover, and I doubt they will gift SC the ball like Stanford and Rice did. So while I expect scoring to keep happening for SC, I expect the games to start being closer for them.
I think Fresno State is going to get Fresnoed.
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Texas A and M 27, the Miami with Palm Trees 21
Pissed. I think that will be the word for TAMU this week. I doubt practices were much fun. Miami has played a SWAAC team, and a team that lost to Liberty, so this is their first real test. Despite the literal dog turd TAMU laid down Saturday, they are still a very talented team. I am interested to see how they rebound.
"Pissed", funny.
Because Jimbo Fisher has decided to pull out his Johnson in Miami. QB Max Johnson that is. Who IMO was his best option to start the season, but Fisher decided to go with King instead. A primetime game audience will see two of the more hyped head coaches out there. Johnson IMO is an underrated talent that hasn't hooked up with that OC that can bring out the best in him. Dickey is an excellent teacher and could be that guy. Prediction: Aggies 29 Canes 27.
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I cannot wait for the early games to stop sucking.
Flipped to the NU OK game long enough to hear rhe announcers say, "Nebraska has had issues taciklng, but they are really tackling well today". And then watch the OK QB pinball 61 yards through the NU defense like a mobile Fat Albert.
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Not sure who is worse, Nebraska or Northwestern.
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Looks like Georgia has some work to do on its third string defense.
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And the Purdue special teams coordinator should be skinned. Yes, it was a tricky tack unsportsmanlike conduct call (not knowing what was said) but that second call was inexcusable.
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When did Bo Nix transfer back to Auburn?
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Well, that was nice.
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Thorne says, "Hey wait, where are you?!".
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Well, at least 2 ain't 6.
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A box score to remember
https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401405088 (https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401405088)
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We may have some defensive issues.
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A box score to remember
https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401405088 (https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401405088)
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
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A box score to remember
https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401405088 (https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401405088)
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
I guess you cannot decipher box scores.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
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Yankees can't handle their beer.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
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Am I going to have to start karing about Cansas?
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A box score to remember
https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401405088 (https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401405088)
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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EVENTUAL 2022 2023 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 27, Minnesota 18
Who am I to let a little thing like getting waxed by Washington keep me down? We have a problem with the passing game, especially with mobile quarterbacks like Pennix. Minnesota is a running team. I will say I was surprised at how our own running game did not show up on Saturday, probably because of the hole we got it early. I think Eventual 2022 Heisman Trophy Winner Peyton Thorne can be better, especially if Reed is back. Mini has been better than I expected, but they are run dominant and I still think we take this one.
The Ohio State 45, Wisconsin 31
The merits of boasting of a win over a MAC school aside, The has an impressive offense, with talented depth everywhere. Stroud is looking sharp, he is gelling with the WRs and the two running backs (Henderson left the Toledo game but I expect him back, as cagey as The has been about the nature of his injury) are a load. I expect the parade of points to continue even against a normally stubborn Wisky defense. I still worry about whether the The defense can hold down a good offense, holding Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie down is looking less and less impressive each week. Wisky did move the ball even in the gam they lost, so I look for them to put up some points here.
Methchicken 42, Maryland 7
Yes, your offense can roll over Yukon. Don t impress me much, as they say. They have not been tested yet, and they will not be here.
the Pennsylvania State 35, Central Michigan 10
It looks like there is a decent sized gap between the top Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten and the rest. But note, the IINBT has been pretty bad against Power 5 schools this year. the Pennsylvania State, though, has not been.
Arkansas 35, Texas A and M 17
I do not think whipping out their Johnson fixed the TAMU offense. At least not yet. The defense has been good, but I do like Jefferson as a college QB.
Tennessee 31, Florida 21
Hooker has been pretty good all year, and the Vol Offense has been cooking. They put up 63 on Akron, and anyo0ne who can score more than 50 on the Zips has my respecicannoteventypethatwithastraightface. Anyway, Florida still has some offensive challenges, and Richardson has not been the big two way threat the Utah game portended, and as a one way quarterback he is lacking.
ClemSIN 27, Woke Forrest 14
Woke is undefeated, but I am not buying in. CelSIN still has not convinced me they have their offense figured out yet, and their defense has been a little vulnerable through the air, likely because they have been so good against the run. I will take the defense to dominate WTFU QB Mary Hartman all day.
University of North Carolina 27, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 12
Heh heh heh. Trip and pole vault right out the window. Heh. Schadenfreude is a legitimate feeling and I neither deny it nor apologize for it.
Syracuse 35, Virginia 17
Who knew Old Dominion would be the best football team in the state of Virginia? The Cuse has been surprisingly good, even though they needed a loaves and fishes end to the Purdue game to do it. Not as big a dick punch as the end of the Cleveland v Jets game which I am by the way still not over. Do you know how many things had to go exactly wrong for us to lose that? Son of a bitch. It will haunt me. Anyway. Good team, not great. But UVa lost to ODU and Illinois. Have not paid actual attention to them, but they must suck.
University of California* 42, the, NOT The, Oregon State 31
Still a great offense. The 2022 version of Caleb Williams for the Heisman bandwagon is warming up. The defense? Well, the Fightin Raisins did move the ball against USC, as everyone has. So I suspect the third best OSU will continue the trend. Still, I like USC to lick the Beavers.
the Washington State 24, Oregon 17
Flipped a coin. It landed on Bad Bo Nix. Oregon ventures to the most remote location in the Power 5, and Bo is at his Nixiest on the road.
Utah 42, the Arizona State University 13
I am shocked Herm Edwards lasted as long as he did. The two Arizona Us are tough places to coach and sustain success. Not enough talent for two major P5 schools, so you fight over the scraps left over from Cali.
Oklahoma 35, the Kansas State 21
I never thought much of Martinez when he was at Nebraska. Good for one or two great plays a game, but overall, not a good QB. Gabriel has benefitted from the better talent around him at OU.
Kansas 24, Duke 20
Holy Gayle Sayers, do I have to start to care about Kansas? A team that has not had a winning record since the Bush II administration? At the longest until mid-October. Then reality.
* Southern
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University of California* 42, the, NOT The, Oregon State 31
Still a great offense. The 2022 version of Caleb Williams for the Heisman bandwagon is warming up. The defense? Well, the Fightin Raisins did move the ball against USC, as everyone has. So I suspect the third best OSU will continue the trend. Still, I like USC to lick the Beavers.
As a former Corvallis resident, I promise you there is no Beaver-as-Pubes pun that has gone unmade. Or, in the state's civil war match, Ducks rhyme. And as a Jayhawk by birth, let me assure you you do not have to start caring about Kansas. Thanks for an amusing rundown.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
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Am I going to have to start karing about Cansas?
Maybe the Kansas head coach too.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
Okay.
Let me know when those numbers are matched in any game between
Division one teams.
I will wait.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
Okay.
Let me know when those numbers are matched in any game between
Division one teams.
I will wait.
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
Multiple similar stat lines happen every year. Some cupcake gets eaten hard.
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University of California* 42, the, NOT The, Oregon State 31
Still a great offense. The 2022 version of Caleb Williams for the Heisman bandwagon is warming up. The defense? Well, the Fightin Raisins did move the ball against USC, as everyone has. So I suspect the third best OSU will continue the trend. Still, I like USC to lick the Beavers.
As a former Corvallis resident, I promise you there is no Beaver-as-Pubes pun that has gone unmade.
There have been no Beaver-as-pubes joke unmade by me. And I assure you there never will be.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
Okay.
Let me know when those numbers are matched in any game between
Division one teams.
I will wait.
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
Multiple similar stat lines happen every year. Some cupcake gets eaten hard.
I will wait for you,too.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
Okay.
Let me know when those numbers are matched in any game between
Division one teams.
I will wait.
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
Multiple similar stat lines happen every year. Some cupcake gets eaten hard.
I will wait for you,too.
Whatever floats your boat.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
Okay.
Let me know when those numbers are matched in any game between
Division one teams.
I will wait.
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
Multiple similar stat lines happen every year. Some cupcake gets eaten hard.
I will wait for you,too.
Whatever floats your boat.
Thanks. I will not expect an answer for a long time. But watch those box scores !
lOL!
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
Okay.
Let me know when those numbers are matched in any game between
Division one teams.
I will wait.
You are boasting about beating TOLEDO? Raise your fucking standards.
Multiple similar stat lines happen every year. Some cupcake gets eaten hard.
I will wait for you,too.
Whatever floats your boat.
Thanks. I will not expect an answer for a long time. But watch those box scores !
lOL!
I will leave that to you. I will watch the games.
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
Okay.
Let me know when those numbers are matched in any game between
Division one teams.
I will wait.
Oh no please don't let us keep you waiting. I freely admit that you and the Buckeyed have won the cupcake pie-eating contest.
Congratulations.
Now, go wash your face.
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Here's second place.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401403853 (https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401403853)
Although seeing as Vandy totally sucks they may actually own first place. Either way happy gorging. :-)
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I assume it is the no punt return kick return yada yada yada.
After you sort through the meaningful numbers
Like 763 total yards, 11 TD drives out of 12 total, etc.
Stuff like that.
So Steve was right. You're bragging about eating a cupcake. LOL Go team!
Okay.
Let me know when those numbers are matched in any game between
Division one teams.
I will wait.
Oh no please don't let us keep you waiting.
I never expected you to.
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Sorry to deflate your Buckeyed chubby.
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Methchicken 42, Maryland 7
Yes, your offense can roll over Yukon. Don t impress me much, as they say. They have not been tested yet, and they will not be here
I'm thinking a much closer game here Steve. I'm not thinking Michigan will lose but that the Terps won't roll over.
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The Ohio State 45, Wisconsin 31
The merits of boasting of a win over a MAC school aside, The has an impressive offense, with talented depth everywhere. Stroud is looking sharp, he is gelling with the WRs and the two running backs (Henderson left the Toledo game but I expect him back, as cagey as The has been about the nature of his injury) are a load. I expect the parade of points to continue even against a normally stubborn Wisky defense. I still worry about whether the The defense can hold down a good offense, holding Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie down is looking less and less impressive each week. Wisky did move the ball even in the gam they lost, so I look for them to put up some points here.
I think you have the right of OSU putting up a win here. But I'm feeling that possibly the score might be a little lower. Something like 34-20. That's assuming the Badgers can eat some clock with the kind of offense they have. Also, in the Red Zone they have been pretty decent and FGs don't run up the score as much as TDs.
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University of North Carolina 27, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 12
Heh heh heh. Trip and pole vault right out the window. Heh. Schadenfreude is a legitimate feeling and I neither deny it nor apologize for it
I see the Irish grinding out a win here. NC has the better record but IMO their defense hasn't been all that. And IMO ND has way too much talent to keep looking as bad as they have. The OSU loss took the starch out of them. Sooner or later these guys are going to find second gear. I'm thinking it's this Saturday.
I'll go, ND 28, NC 25.
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Kansas 24, Duke 20
Holy Gayle Sayers, do I have to start to care about Kansas? A team that has not had a winning record since the Bush II administration? At the longest until mid-October. Then reality.
I expect a great basketball game here....uhhh....wait...what? Football you say? Hmmm. Lance Leipold is a very good coach. His dominance of Mount Union will attest to that. He has little top-notch talent to work with, but he's done a good job. Great offensive mind IMO that can work and scheme with what he is given. A lot of coaches can't do that and rely on their high-priced beef, which it's always been. (Only now more than ever with NIL)Note: you won't see many Kansas football players getting top dollar from NIL. But I digress, but yeah the guy works well with the clay he's given. I expect a high scoring game. 43/40. Don't know who will win but I've always had a Wiskiesque irrational dislike of Duke. So, I hope the Jays win.
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Not so fast Boo Boo Bear.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34646721/in-letter-pac-12-george-kliavkoff-cites-significant-financial-mental-health-concerns-ucla-move-big-ten (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34646721/in-letter-pac-12-george-kliavkoff-cites-significant-financial-mental-health-concerns-ucla-move-big-ten)
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There is a slight, very slight, remote chance that this is not our year.
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Rolling right along.
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Guess what second half game stats with the score tied at 14 these are from.
... punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, turnover on downs, missed field goal.
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There is a slight, very slight, remote chance that this is not our year.
What really jumped out at me Steve was 23/26. I never thought I'd that sort of stat from a Minny-soda QB on a Spartan defense. I don't know what's worse, and I'm sorry to say it, the Spartan defense or the Spartan OL.
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EVENTUAL 2022 2023 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 35, Maryland 27
On the bright side, I get more free time this Christmas season!
Methchicken 24, Iowa 7
I am not sold on the Meatchicken passing game as yet. They do have a beast on the ground, and while their defense showed some signs of having issues in their post-St. Anselm School for Disturbed Children part of their schedule, Maryland does have a pretty good passing attack. Iowa won a game this year with a field goal and a safety, so I am thinking we really are not going to get a read on the quality of the D quite yet.
The 52, Rutgers 17
You can sort of brag about The beating down Wisconsin if you want, they are not Toledo after all. Especially with the defense playing the run the way it did. I think The has so much going for it on offense that normal teams will be hard pressed to shut it down, even if either the run or the pass does not click on an individual game. Cannot wait to see them against a first-rate defense, which this will not be. And nobody cries for dear old Rutgers.
the Pennsylvania State University 27, North by Northwestern 13
There was a certain amount of luster lacking in the CMU game, and Singleton was pretty much held in check. I suppose down the road it will be interesting to see if the the PSU offense is the real deal, but NW has been so bad this year.
Kansas 31, the Iowa State 28
Rock Chalk Jayhawk! Does that apply to football as well as basketball? I may not know my sports terminology as well as I think I do. Anyway, I like that the KU Fog is lifting from their football program. And I regret that I could not find a way to insert Yourself into that joke.
Old Mississippi 35, Kentucky 21
Five games involving ranked teams this week. Or maybe three. Outside of the Florida game, I am not sure KY jelled in any of their games. I mean, you should beat a Youngstown State, even in its Tressell heyday, more convincingly. Old Mississippi has been as under the radar as a God apostrophe s Conference unbeaten can be. If they play the game I will take Old Mississippi.
Woke Forrest 31, the Florida State 28
Is the Florida State even going to play this week? Can they prepare? I suppose if Ivan heads more towards Tampa there will not be an issue. Anyway, are they back? They aced their one big test this year, though the Louisiana State is not quite up to the level they should be. I did like the way Woke FU moved the ball against a good ClemSIN defense.
Baylor 21, the Oklahoma State 17
I am kind of embarrassed to confess that of all the leagues, Pure Prairie League games are the most likely to lose my interest quickly. I am not sure why, but the OSU in particular puts me on snooze every time, every year. So I am just winging it here.
Alabama 42, Arkansas 14
It seems like every year we go through a stretch where we see Alabama not play as great as we think they are for a game or two, and I start to think, maybe this is the year they get that fifth slot in the bowl lineup and play in the Mercari Texas Bowl or something. It has not happened yet, and it will not happen this year.
ClemSIN 31, the North Carolina State University 17
The SIN are better offensively then last year, but still not all there, and the defense has not been as standout as I thought it would be. The NC State has not been impressive at all this year. How they are ranked at 10 above unbeatens like Washington or Minnesota who have both beaten one truly great team is a mystery to me.
Washington 35, University of California * 21
While not a battle of two unranked teams, it is a battle of unbeatens! UCLA remains unranked, though, I suppose because it needed a come from behind win against South Alabama. Washingtons signature win is looking less lustrous as time goes on, but I think they take this.
University of California** 35, the Arizona State University 2
I expected USC to pound the Beavers last week, but they could not penetrate the Beavers defense. They did manage to keep them in check offensively, though, which is a nice development. The the ASU post Edwards fumigation has only just begun.
Minnesota 31, Purdue 28
Minnesota has put up a lot of points this year, and Purdue has mostly not been stingy on defense. I am not convinced Mini is the Beast of the West, check with me after the the PSU game in three weeks, but they could enter the last two games of the season, against Iowa and Wisky, with the West in their back pocket.
Georgia 31, Missouri 3
22 points to Kent State? I suppose I am not alone in thinking this was a focus issue, not a talent one. After all, Georgia did hold KSU to less than 300 yards in total offense, and their biggest issue appears to have been turnovers. Back on track against a pretty bad Misery.
* at Los Angeles
** Southern
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It appears Rock Chalk Jayhawk started with the KU Science Club. Respec.
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What a great name the Houston kicker has. Bubba Baxa
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Georgia looking like they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
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I think next week we come out of the fourth quarter ahead 7 - 0. The first three quarter are what I worry about.
Holy Chryst! I would have thought he had a little more time than 5 games into his first real bad season.
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That
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I sense there was supposed to be more.
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I meant to write "that was a terrible firing."
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Three NY 6 bowls in 7 years, finished first or second in the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten West every year except the COVID year, 6 and 1 in bowl games. I know Wisky has been pretty good through three coaching regimes now, but Jesus, are their expectations THAT high?
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Three NY 6 bowls in 7 years, finished first or second in the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten West every year except the COVID year, 6 and 1 in bowl games. I know Wisky has been pretty good through three coaching regimes now, but Jesus, are their expectations THAT high?
That coach looked totally lost on the sidelines, his staff must have been doing all
the real coaching.
Well, if so, that model has worked very well for seven years.
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EVENTUAL
2022 2023 2023 2024 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNVERSITY 31, The Ohio State 25
Truthfully, I am just hoping to make them punt some time during the first three quarters. I figured we would have some defensive issues, but the startling absence of hap on offense has been unexpected. Anyway, for a somewhat more rational pick, reverse those numbers.
Methchicken 31, Indiana 17
Winning at Iowa was a decent achievement, but Iowa offensively is putrid and offensively Meatchicken spent much of the game sputtering. I am still not sure how good they are, and probably will wait and see until, well, next week. For now, I think Indiana is not a major hurdle.
Kansas 27, Christians from the State of Texas 21
Kansas is a great story. They have sucked at football for a long time, across multiple coaches. The last time they won more than five games, also the last time they won a bowl game, was during the George W. Bush administration. Yes, I think Kansas pretty much tops out at bowl eligible, and TCU is coming off a game in which they treated Oklahoma like it was the Tarleton State, but I will ride with the Jayhawks.
the Brigham Young 27, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 21
OLotPT may have righted the ship, well, enough to beat North Carolina. Meanwhile, BYU has not been all that against some meh teams the last couple of weeks. Am I picking BYU because of my hatred for OLotPT? No, but I really cannot present contrary evidence you if you choose to think so.
CelmSIN 27, Boston College 21
I keep getting the feeling, while watching CelmSIN, that they are a house of cards waiting to tumble. But they do keep winning. I think next weeks Florida State game will be an interesting watch.
Tteenneessee 34, the Louisiana State 27
Fightin Hendon Hooker is the man! By the way, if you are trying to remember his first name, I do NOT recommend typing Tennessee Hooker into your search engine
the Mississippi State 24, Arkansas 23
I expected more of Arkansas, but K J Jefferson has not been the dynamic two way guy I thought he would be, and their defense gave Alabama the runs. Or let them run. Something like that. I have an endemic mistrust of Mississippi schools, but they have been playing well.
Georgia 35, Auburn 10
I do not read too much into the last couple of Georgia wins, neither of which was anywhere near as dominating as you would expect. I keep reading Harsin is on the hot seat, five games into his second year. Triggers are getting pulled to quickly.
the Oklahoma State 35, Texas Technological Institute 27
True interesting fact: counting Saturday, four of TTU 5 opponents have been ranked at the time they played them. Lower case the Oklahoma State is the fifth. The look like the class of the PurePrairie League to me, although admittedly my eyes glaze over every time I turn to one of their games.
[]b]Utah 42, University of California * 21[/b]
Sure, UCLA has a clean sweep of the Alabama teams that suck, but they beat a pretty solid Washington team. Part of me would love to see them and USC clash unbeaten in the last game of the year with the Rose Bowl, or playoffs, at stake. But then, for reasons that defy any rational argument, that is not the last game of the season anymore. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH CFB? Anyway, I was thinking that USC was the last hope for the PAWCP to make the playoffs, but with Oklahoma tanking, there is a pretty good possibility that more than one one loss team could sneak in. I had Utah in the playoffs at the start of the year, so a win here keeps them in the picture.
University of California * 38, the Washington State 21
That defense has not looked quite so wretched the last two games. Wazzou gacked up a win against Oregon, but otherwise has been pretty good defensively. Could be a pretty good game. It is at USC, and I think the Cougars will miss the bright lights and constant 24 7 action of Pullman.
Alabama 42, Texas Agriculture and Military College 14
Remember when everyone but me had TAMU in their Top 5? Seems like more than a month ago, does it not?
Texas 31, Oklahoma 17
Putting this one on for old times sake. I saw some of the OU game last Saturday. That was the type of beatdown I would never have expected from an OU team. Maybe Venable is a victim of the Peter Principle.
* at Los Angeles
** Southern
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6 team moneyline parlay today
Georgia
Ohio St
Bama
Clemson
UCLA
Notre Dame
100 wins 323
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Tennessee really pasted LSU. Vol offense is daaaaaangerous.
Mike Leach, the guy many disdain, has another offensive squad to be reckoned with.
Texas has a field day against Oklahoma Tech.
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No patsy jokes here.
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Saban needs Young against Tennessee.
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I think next week we come out of the fourth quarter ahead 7 - 0. The first three quarter are what I worry about.
Ahem. At least I got one pick smack on.
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Micah Parsons. The Giants could have had him, but NOOOOooooooo.
Idiots. Morons. Assho...
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I think next week we come out of the fourth quarter ahead 7 - 0. The first three quarter are what I worry about.
Ahem. At least I got one pick smack on.
Smacked is a good word to use for that game.
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I think next week we come out of the fourth quarter ahead 7 - 0. The first three quarter are what I worry about.
Ahem. At least I got one pick smack on.
Smacked is a good word to use for that game.
We made them punt thrice. Which is twice more than I expected.
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So far Tennessee looks to be real. Or, maybe, Bama isn't the team they have been in the past.
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Somebody is in BIG trouble. :-)
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Kid must have thought his player had touched it. Or he is an idiot.
Methchicken looked impressive especially on defense.
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Rocky Top! That field goal would have been good from 40 1/2 yards!
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Glad to have gotten off the schnied, but it is odd that a double overtime win by my favorite team was only the third most nteresting game in that time window.
Can the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten East get two teams into the CFB playoffs? I was impressed with those fucking arrogant bastards Methchicken on defense, and their running game is strong. I still think they have exploitable QB issues, so despite how good they look, when we set on their run game in two weeks and
Are them throw, that is how we beat them in two weeks. A pick I am making now because my son is getting married that weekend and I will be off line for a couple of weeks. Also, a pick I would be making if the son of God was quarterbacking Methchicken.
But in the real world I cannot see anyone on their schedule beating them besides The. The PAWCP is down to University of California as an unbeaten and I cannot see a one loss PAWCP team making it. The Pure Prairie League looks too even to go unbeaten. So assuming ClemSIN, Georgia and the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten champ, that leaves one more spot. Bama in this scenario has one more loss (Ga if not. earlier) so..
* at Los Angeles
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EVENTUAL 2023 2024 NAIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 37, Methchicken 33
I am aware that this is two weeks away, but I will be gone for the next couple weeks and want to get this pick in. I am also aware that this was the score of last years game. I am also also aware that Kenneth III is not Walkering through that door. I just do not care.
The 35, Iowa 3
Iowa has the no 3 scoring defense in college football. They have not played anyone with the range of offensive options The does. Iowa also would have to score some to win. Which they will not do, or at least not do enough to win.
ClemSIN 31, Syracuse 10
Good job by the Cuse to be unbeaten this late in the season. Not that they have played much of anyone. This is the best team by far that they will be playing. ClemSIN has been improving as the year goes on, and Uuulieuuuieuu or whatever his name is has been better. I expect that improvement to continue. Syracuse has had a pretty stingy defense to date, but the best offense they have faced was probably Purdue. Nice to have an early game match up of ranked teams, but I do not think it will be that much of a game.
Tennessee 42, the University of Tennessee Martin 24
I was actually impressed with Tennessee defense, for a while at least, last week. Still too leaky a cauldron for a championship team, because eventually there will be a time when defense is required. Not this week, though. Tennessee Martin sounds like a mediocre country singer currently making a concert tour of midwestern dive bars.
the Louisiana State University 27, Old Mississippi 21
A couple of PAWCP refugee quarterbacks. Old Mississippi has developed a pretty good running game, but I just do not trust them. I am admittedly distrustful of the Mississippi teams early in the year because their schedules always seem to be back loaded, and fuck Lane Kiffin in particular, so do not put any money on this one on my say so.
the Texas 31, the Oklahoma State 27
The Horns looked pretty multidimensional with the Quinn Ewers, if that is his real name which I doubt, at the helm. Nice set of backs. Texas is like Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie in that I hear they are back so often I doubt they are back until they prove it. the OSU spit the bit against TCU, but until the last few minutes looked pretty good. Should be a good game. I may have underestimated the number of points.
Oregon 31, University of California* 17
I think not only will no PAWCP go unbeaten, they will all have two ore more losses. Yes, I still hate Bo Nix, but he is at home, so more good plays than stunningly bad ones.
Alabama 49, the Old Mississippi State University 45
Did you see that pass defense last week? OK, Tennessee has a great offense sure, but it was a balanced offense, not an air raid sort of one, and they shredded the Bama secondary. the MSU has a more potent passing game. Alabama just seems more ragged and undisciplined this year than they have been. I have Alabama out scoring them, but there is no reason why tMSU cannot outscore Alabama. Other than any team with Mike Leach as its head coach does not deserve success.
the Pennsylvania State University 27, Minnesota 17
While tPSUs inability to even slow down Methchickens running game was on full display virtually every minute of the game Saturday, and there own running game was non-existent, I do not view that as their norm. Minnesota does have a good running game, so the potential of an upset is there.
the Kansas State University 31, Christians from Texas 28
The comeback we impressive, but TCU pre-comeback was a concern. The Pure Prairie League seems to have a bunch of fairly equal pretty good teams, so it is going to be interesting to see if any of them is strong enough to go the year with no losses. Or even just one loss.
Kansas 27, Baylor 21
I had Baylor under consideration for the final playoff spot preseason, so what the fuck do I know. Kansas started 5 and 0 but if they do not beat Baylor there is a real chance those 5 wins are all they get.
Maryland 27, North by Northwestern 6
An interesting game in the yankguy household. Not sure if baby Tags is playing, but that really only effects the margin of victory. NW is baaad.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 31, University of Nevada Los Vegas 17
3 and 3 OLotPT may need this game to be bowl eligible, since three of their last six games are against ranked teams. Well, one is Syracuse but still. And despite wanting desperately to see them fail badly and wind up where they were when they made their Faustian bargain in the 80s, I just cannot do it.
* at Los Angeles
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Which Harbaugh is the bigger Ahole
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Impossible for conventional logistics to assertain.
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I crack myself up.
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Impossible for conventional logistics to assertain.
😁😁
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It's a beautiful night in Baton Rouge
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It's a beautiful night in Baton Rouge
How did your team do?
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SMU beat Houston 77 to 63 to kick off the NCAA Basketball season.
What?
Never mind.
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Other then the vicious and unprovoked assault by a Michigan player on the unprotected helmet of a MSU player, did I miss anything these last two weeks?
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Well, I rarely call out Nick Saban for doing something stupid, as he rarely does something stupid. But when he went for 2 points I remember saying to the tv screen, before the try, "Well this is stupid Nick, got your head up your ass or what?"
It sure bit him in the ass later.
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Under what conceivable circumstances do The or Meatchicken not make the playoffs?
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Starting with playoff implications.
Georgia 35, The Old Mississippi State 3
Is there a path that does not lead to Georgia being in the playoffs? Neither of their two remaining God apostrophe s Conference games are total stiffs, but even with a single loss, if they win the C a s C Championship game even with a loss, they are in. If they are unbeaten going into the Championship game, they get in regardless of the result. Mississippi State is a decent team, but Georgia should handle them.
The 52, Indiana 10
The winner of the The v Meatchicken game is in roughly the same boat as Georgia, except it is harder to envision either team losing one of their remaining games except to each other, and it is harder to see either losing the conference championship game. The real question is, does a once beaten Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten East team get in? The got their hiccup game out of the way last week and should handle Indiana with ease.
Methchicken 49, Nebraska 3
Because to me it comes down to Georgia, the The UM winner and one of four teams for the playoffs. Tennessee, TCU, UM The loser and LSU. Any other scenario will require chaos. Or, I suppose, an utter blow out in the The v UM game. Nebraska is just not good anymore, so Meatchicken should not be tested here.
Tennessee 42, Misery 21
Is there a non chaos scenario where Tennessee does not get in? They should be favored in all of their games, only the Cocks pose a challenge. I can think of one, which I will get to later. I like teams that have not been in the playoffs before getting in, so go Vols. Missouri is not a major hurdle.
Texas Christian 35, Texas 27
Here is one of two teams that could knock Tennessee or the IINB10 East loser out. TCU running the table. TCU has three games they could lose, and a fourth in the Pure Prairie League Championship game. They have played a highly ethnocentric schedule though and I think one loss could knock them below the other one loss teams, even if they win the PPL championship game, as no other PPL team has fewer than 3 losses. Texas is an interesting challenge.
The Louisiana State University 35, Arkansas 17
And here is the real wild card. LSU has a game in hand on Old Mississippi and though they still have games against teams that back in September were highly thought of in Arkansas and TAMU, they should run the table. Which gives them a punchers chance against Georgia. Does a two loss God apostrophe s Conference Champion get in over a one loss Tennessee, Georgia, The, Meatchicken, TCU? Which of those would LSU knock out with a win over Georgia? Probably Tennessee, since it is hard to imagine a scenario that would result in three G a s C teams in the playoffs. That would then leave the fourth spot for either the IINB10 East loser and TCU for the last spot.
University of California * 31, Colorado 14
Is the PAWCP still in play for a spot? USC can bolster their resume with wins over UCLA and Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie. That would give them two more quality wins and should put them in a good position. The problem is, they would need to win the Conference as well, and I am not sure, with that loss to Utah, it looks like they need some help to get there. Anyway, they should have an easy game against the Cradle of Coaches.
Oregon 40, Washington 17
Did the absolute pantsing by Georgia in week one permanently kill off Oregon as a playoff team? They have won out since, including games against some good teams, and if you take the view that Georgia is the class of CFB, and I think most of us do, losing to them should not be a deal breaker. But here we are. Anyway, I hope they lose to Utah next week. The PAWCP is not doing divisions for its playoff this year, and an Oregon loss to Utah should result in a 3 way tie for two places. The final tiebreaker is, I believe, letting Larry Scott decide, and then doing the opposite, which is wise.
ClemSIN 27, Louisville 20
If ClemSIN had been at all impressive this year, a single loss to OLotPT should not knock them that far down. But they have not been impressive, and they are on playoff life support, needing a lot of chaos to get to the top 4. I do not even have much confidence in them getting past the Vile.
North Carolina 27, Woke Forest 24
Included because I suppose there are some wild possibilities out there that could put the fourth spot in play for a 1 loss UNC. A couple of TCU losses, LSU losing one of its cake games, a Good Bad and Ugly PAWCP finale, that kind of thing. But the South Atlantic League is the deadest of the power 5.
Old Mississippi 35, Alabama 27
Old Mississippi needs LSU to lose one of its remaining conference games, and then win out through the God apostrophe s Conference Championship game. Not winning the Championship, even being a G a s C team with one loss, probably knocks them out because they are not Tennessee. Alabama needs LSU to lose twice to make the G a s C Championship, and that is not happening. Toast!
EVENTUAL 2022 QUICK LANE BOWL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 24, Rutgers 17
Now for the games with no bearing on the playoffs. We need two wins to be bowl eligible, so we better beat Rutgers and Indiana. Not feeling it against the Pennsylvania State. Our offense has just not been what it should be this year, but I think we can beat the Scarlett O Haras. Actually, I suspect that, given the state of the race in the West, we might bump up to the Guaranteed Rate Bowl, which I might be able to get tickets for.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 35, Navy 17
OLotPT did us all a service by knocking out ClemSIN. They were a pretender.
The Pennsylvania State University 24, Maryland 17
Maryland is 6 and 3 with games against PSU, The, and the traditional year end rivalry game with Rutgers. 7 and 5 is a good season for them.
Colby 27, Bowdoin 20
I missed the first two games of the BBC series. Sorry. The Cheese beat the Fightin Lawrence Chamberlains.
* Southern
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The more snobby of the Bowdoin students refer to Colby as "The University of Maine-Waterville."
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Under what conceivable circumstances do The or Meatchicken not make the playoffs?
Losing to tOSU.
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Under what conceivable circumstances do The or Meatchicken not make the playoffs?
Losing to tOSU.
A one loss Methchicken gets in over a one loss conference champion from the Bilge XII, ACC or PAC.
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Under what conceivable circumstances do The or Meatchicken not make the playoffs?
Losing to tOSU.
A one loss Methchicken gets in over a one loss conference champion from the Bilge XII, ACC or PAC.
No way.
Michigan has a terrible sos , best win is Penn State (to date)and without beating tOSU will not play for a championship.
TCU, still undefeated, has 5 top 25 wins and a Big12 Championship game. Coming up
Oregon with a loss (to Georgia) has 3 top 25 wins and a likely shot at a fourth in Pac12 title game.
A Michigan Loss to the Best team in the league and it will get the same fate as a one loss Tennessee, a nice Bowl Game.
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Assuming they win out the only thing that would keep Tennessee from being in the playoffs would be LSU winning the conference championship game.
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Assuming they win out the only thing that would keep Tennessee from being in the playoffs would be LSU winning the conference championship game.
Tennessee cant win the SEC or even play for it.
The only one loss team from the SEc that could go would be Georgia
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Georgia 35, The Old Mississippi State 3
Is there a path that does not lead to Georgia being in the playoffs? Neither of their two remaining God apostrophe s Conference games are total stiffs, but even with a single loss, if they win the C a s C Championship game even with a loss, they are in. If they are unbeaten going into the Championship game, they get in regardless of the result. Mississippi State is a decent team, but Georgia should handle them
I think this game will be much closer than this. Maybe even an upset special.
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Assuming they win out the only thing that would keep Tennessee from being in the playoffs would be LSU winning the conference championship game.
Tennessee cant win the SEC or even play for it.
The only one loss team from the SEc that could go would be Georgia
As always, your Big10 arrogance is showing skippy.
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Assuming they win out the only thing that would keep Tennessee from being in the playoffs would be LSU winning the conference championship game.
Tennessee cant win the SEC or even play for it.
The only one loss team from the SEc that could go would be Georgia
As always, your Big10 arrogance is showing skippy.
How is that?
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Assuming they win out the only thing that would keep Tennessee from being in the playoffs would be LSU winning the conference championship game.
Tennessee cant win the SEC or even play for it.
The only one loss team from the SEc that could go would be Georgia
As always, your Big10 arrogance is showing skippy.
How is that?
I assume your inability to control it.
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Assuming they win out the only thing that would keep Tennessee from being in the playoffs would be LSU winning the conference championship game.
Tennessee cant win the SEC or even play for it.
The only one loss team from the SEc that could go would be Georgia
As always, your Big10 arrogance is showing skippy.
How is that?
I assume your inability to control it.
LOL
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Bama's OL run blocking is killing them.
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Georgia 35, Kentucky 10
Of all of the teams, it is Georgia that I think is an absolute lock for the playoffs. I suppose there is always the theoretic chance that they could lose in advance of the God apostrophe s Conference Championship, but it is pretty much equally theoretically possible I will be able to bang Cecily Strong for Christmas. Kentucky has had a nice year, but they just lost to Vanderbilt. VANDERBILT. None of their wins has been against anything with a pulse.
The 52, Maryland 17
For both The and Meatchicken, a win on the 26th is the golden ticket. The loser still has a decent chance of making the playoffs, no matter what RedDickJimmEspn thinks. They will need TCU to lose at least once. As for this game, Maryland does not have the firepower to hang with The. The has some injuries to get over, especially in their offensive back field, but this week should help them get healthy.
Methchicken 35, Illinois 3
Because, think of what the landscape of CFB will look like if TCU loses once. The Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big 10 winner joins Georgia, but who are the other two teams? You are choosing from a bunch of one loss teams, like Tennessee, TCU, maybe USC, ClemSIN, and for purposes of this blurb and not as a prediction Meatchicken. Tennessee looks pretty safe in this scenario given their one loss to the first seed and they have several wins over quality teams. ClemSIN has a bad loss and at best a win over UNC, TCU will have lost to a team with at least three losses. So Meat is definitely on the menu, boys, especially since the eye test has shown them to be dominant all year. And if it is The instead, they do have that OLotPT win in their pocket. Anyway, the IINBT West is a mess right now. Lord knows who will come out of it to get spanked by the East winner.
Tennessee 42, South Carolina 28
I really think Tennessee is a lock, with that one loss to Georgia and a win over Alabama and a dominant win over LSU. Well, I guess LSU could beat Georgia and theoretically Tennessee could lose one of their last two games, but see the Cecily Strong slash Georgia scenario above. Short of that, they will probably be regarded as the best of the one loss teams even if TCU wins out.
Texas Christian University 38, Baylor 17
I think preseason I may have had Baylor as my Pure Prairie League Champion, and perhaps even into the playoffs. Oh well, as a wise man once noted, often wrong but never in doubt. Except I am constantly plagued by doubt. Anyway, the path for TCU is clear. Win and you are in, lose and we could well have a two Conference playoff ahead of us. I like the idea of new teams like TCU and Tennessee in the playoffs, so cool. Do it Horned Frogs!
The Louisiana State University 52, University of Alabama Birmingham 17
Nice to see LSU stay with the traditional penultimate game cupcake. Their path is also clear. Beat Georgia in the God apostrophe s Conference Championship game. I do not think they can do it, but that is the path.
University of California * 35, University of California ** 20
I have said this before but THIS SHOULD BE THE LAST GAME OF THE YEAR FOR THESE TWO TEAMS. Last game of the year, Oregon plays Oregon State. Washington plays Washington State. Alabama plays Auburn. Old Mississippi plays Old Mississippi State. And UCLA plays Cal. Fucking modernity sucks. Actually, a USC that wins out will present an interesting decision for the committee, since they will add wins over UCLA, OLotPT and Oretah on their resume.
ClemSIN 27, Miami 24
See, even a one loss ClemSIN with a South Atlantic League Championship under its belt will have two issues. They have not really beaten anyone. And they have looked shit doing it. The U has been a disappointment after the first game or so, and I think ClemSIN will win, but they do not fill me with confidence.
North Carolina 38, Georgia Institute of Technology 10
My mind just cannot admit UNC as a contender, and I think even if they win the South Atlantic League title over ClemSIN, they are too far down the ladder to be a serious threat to the other one win teams.
EVENTUAL 2022 GUARANTEED RATE BOWL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 27, Indiana 17
Bowl Eligible is not what I was looking for at the start of the year. But this is where we are. Thank goodness for TAMU, as we are not anywhere near the most disappointing team in CFB.
The Pennsylvania State University 35, The State University of New Jersey 10
The PSU may be looking past this game to the Battle for Creations Ugliest Trophy next week. Somehow I doubt it.
Utah 42, Oregon 31
Oregon Bonixing their game against Washington took them out of the playoff picture, but this remains the most impactful game of the non playoff contenders, with the winner taking on USC. Probably. Actually, if my dream scenario is UCLA beat USC, Oregon beats Utah, and then loses to Oregon State. That would give us five two loss in conference teams in a conference that has no divisions and takes the top 2 teams. I am not sure how the tiebreakers shake out in a five way tie, but I assume at some point they just draw names out of a hat. That would be such fun!
North Central 38, Lake Forest 17
Lake Forest Foresters? I am sorry, that is just plain lazy. Fuck them.
Mount Union 50, Salisbury 3
The Mount has not won the D III championship since 2017. That cannot sit will with the boosters. Do D III teams even have boosters?
Mary Hardin, Mary Hardin Baylor 31, Huntington 10
I am not sure where Huntington is, or rather which Huntington this is, so I am just going with West Virginia. Huntington Beach would be cool, though. ***
* Southern
** Los Angeles
*** Nope. Indiana. Not at all cool. Though they have a branch campus in near by Peoria. ****
**** Arizona.
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Anyone have Cecily Srrl gas phone number?
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Georgia 27, Georgia Tech 0
Given my blithe comments about Tennessee I probably should not say this but a loss to the Wramblin Reck is inconceivable so Georgia is in no matter what happens in the God apostrophe s Conference Championship game. Tech has been bad since they ditched the wishbone and I do not expect them to put up much of a fight, even in a rivalry game.
The 27, Methchicken 14
The winner of this game is in, like Georgia, regardless of the result of the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big 10 Championship game. The difference is that, while I can see the LSU beating Georgia, it is much harder to imagine Iowa or whoever else may emerge from the IINB10 West clusterfuck. The big question is what happens to the loser. Of the two, The has a resume that is more likely to withstand a loss and still keep them in contention, but it probably will require SC to lose one of its remaining highly loseable games. Meatchicken has a top flight defense, albeit one that has not been tested against anything like a high powered offense, but is offensively limited should that defense crack and The has the tools to crack any defense. I am not sure if Corum is playing this weekend or not. I am also not sure whether either or the two top The backs are playing, but it matters less with The.
Texas Christian University 35, the Iowa State University 20
TCU, like Meatchicken, barely avoided spitting the bit last weekend, and are win out and in scenario. The interesting thing is what happens to them if they lose. They have played a lot of good teams, the Pure Prairie League is positively lousy with good teams, but no great ones. While Georgia, The or Meatchicken is likely in the playoffs even if they lose their respective championship game, I think TCU is going to need to win their championship game against either KSU or Texas. the ISU has been the cellar dweller all year, and I do not see them pulling out of their tail spin.
University of California* 31, Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie 27
I am tempted to think the Trojenz are in if they win out as well, now that Tennessee is out of the picture, but the Committee has LSU ranked ahead of them right now and while I realize each week the Committee starts anew, that edge may not go away if the additional information the Committee has on LSU is that they beat Georgia. Still, the committee has never put a two loss team in the playoffs so I am holding out hope for USC. SC in the playoffs would require wins over OLotPT and Oregon I think, lord but the jungle PAWCP playoff system has created a weird range of interesting scenaria, both if whom are pretty highly rated. A one loss God apostrophe s Conference team is always a threat to jump a one loss Conference Champion, but it is harder to envision a team with the type of resume the Trojenz will have put together getting jumped by, say, Michigan or a two loss GasC champ. Anyway, since what appeared to be a season sinking loss to Stanford OLotPT has added a couple of nice wins. They are a threat to SC, but I will take SC.
the Louisiana State University 31, Texas A and M 20
The wrinkle is the real chance that the LSU beats Georgia in the God apostrophe s Championship Game. While I know Cap disagrees with me on this, I think the Committee has been reasonably consistent in how it judges teams. They do not view a one loss team as the equivalent of an unbeaten team, or a two loss team the equivalent of a one loss team, even when the two loss team has the head to head and a conference championship. Think the Committee taking 11 and 1 The over 11 and 2 the PSU a few years ago. Assume the IINB10 East Champion wins its Championship game and TCU wins out. Those two unbeatens will get in. I think Georgia gets in as well. That leaves a two loss the LSU against potentially a one loss conference champion USC or ClemSIN, and an interesting conundrum for the Committee. Is their GasC hard on so great that they would decide to take a two loss LSU over a USC with a strong resume? Anyway, the glare from the dumpster fire in College Station these days helps distract me from whatever the fuck happened in the second half last week, which I did not see and which I have no desire to check up on. How is a team that has recruited as well as TAMU become this bad? They do still have talent, though, so the LSU cannot sleep on this game.
ClemSIN 31, South Carolina 17
I suppose there is a theoretical possibility that ClemSIN can get in. Maybe SC losing, Georgia beating the LSU, Meatchicken getting blown out by The but not the other way around. But they really needed UNC to come into the South Atlantic League Championship game with one loss and UNC chose not to cooperate. ClemSIN just has not beaten anyone of note all year because they have played no one of note all year. SoCar may be the best team they play outside of OLotPT. SoCar did increase my chances of the Cecily Strong scenario happening, but I cannot see them doing it again.
That I think is the end of the rationally based Championship scenarios. Most likely four of these five teams, Georgia, The, Meatchicken, TCU, Cal * get in, with ClemSIN and LSU holding more remote shots. I am predicting Georgia, The and TCU in as unbeatens, with USC in as a one loss champion. That makes two teams into the playoffs who have never been there before, which is great for CFB.
the Pennsylvania State University 35, EVENTUAL 2023 2024 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE 14
I cannot pretend to be anything but disappointed. At least my holiday schedule is free.
Iowa 18, Nebraska 14
That, for those doing the math, is nine safeties from Iowa. This would put them in the championship game against a team they have already either handily lost to or been blown out by. That they are in the hunt makes a real statement about how bad the West has been this year. If they lose this, the most likely replacement is Purdue, although since the possibility of both Iowa and Purdue losing is very real Illinois cannot be discounted. In the highly amusing and hoped for chance that Iowa, Purdue and Illinois all lose, I think the tie breaker gives the Championship ticket to Northwestern, just for shits and giggles.
the Kansas State 31, Kansas 17
The KSU is in the PPL championship game against TCU with either a win here or a Texas loss. Kansas has been a nice story, going from down trodden to bowl eligible, but they have lost 5 of 6 since starting the season with five straight wins. KSU with three losses is the best scenario for TCU, and it looks to happen.
Alabama 42, Auburn 17
I have seen articles that mention a playoff chance for Alabama, but I cannot imagine the Committee has that much of a hard on for Alabama. There will be a couple one loss power five teams vying for that last spot, and I cannot see the Committee leaping them for Alabama.
Oregon 35, Oregon State 27
I am not sure if Bo Nix is going to play. I am also not sure how if that is a positive or a negative for Oregon. The scenaria for the PAWCP playoffs is even more whack that the ones for the IINB10 West. This is the most straight forward possibility. They are in with a win, or a Washington loss. The other OSU has had a nice season and the home field.
Washington 31, the Washington State 28
Washington needs a win over Wazzu and an Oregon loss AND a loss by either UCLA or Utah. Utah needs to beat Colorado, have Oregon win, Washington Win, and Cal beat UCLA. I think best chance Wazzu has is Washington getting lost on the way to the most Godforsaken Power 5 outpost of Pullman, but you never know with rivalry games.
Maryland 21, Rutgers 14
Is Baby Tags playing? If I gave a damn I would look it up, but I do not so I did not.
North Central 42, Carnegie Mellon 10
Have you ever had a Carnegie Mellon? It has orange flesh and a pleasant aroma, but it tastes like Pittsburgh. Pass.
Mary Hardin Mary Hardin Baylor 45, Trinity 10
Possibly true interesting Christmas potential fact. In 325, at the Council of Nicaea, Constantine the Great briefly imprisoned Santa Claus ** after he punched a fellow delegate, supposedly Arias, in the face during a debate over whether Christ was begotten or made. Santa and his side prevailed in the debate, Arianism was declared a heresy, and the concept of the trinity adhered to by most mainline Christian churches and affirmed in the Nicaean Creed was solidified. Violence can be persuasive! Not that this has anything to do with this game.
Mount Union 49, Attica 3
No, it is Utica, but Attica is more fun. Hard to imagine Pacino shouting Utica! Utica! Utica! It will not be an underdog day afternoon, though.
* Southern
** That is, the historic St. Nicholas of Myra.
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Alas, poor brutus😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Nut punch.
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This is the worst tackling Nick Saban defense I've ever seen. I mean they suck.
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Kudos to the University of Michigan leaders who did not give up on Jim Harbaugh when his teams were struggling against tOSU. Yesterday he won The Game second year in a row. He did it with a scrambling quarterback, ala the Buckeyes did it to him in the past.
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This is the worst tackling Nick Saban defense I've ever seen. I mean they suck.
I missed the Iron Bowl, but it seems impossible that the Bama tackling was worse then Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie. I mean, yeah Williams is special but OLotPT was whiffing on everyone.
So four teams are win and in. I continue to believe Georgia is definitely in and Methchicken almost definitely in even with a loss in their respective championship games. I can conceive of LSU beating Georgia, but a three loss team is not jumping a one loss USC. I will be rooting hard for Purdue, of course, but that one is not happening.
Both TCU and USC have tough games, but both KSU and Utah are three loss teams. With The and Alabama hanging right behind them, it will be interesting to see what happens if one or both lose.
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I think Williams won the Heisman last night
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I think Williams won the Heisman last night
Well, yes, especially with Stroud sucking and Corum sitting. Hooker got rolled out last week.
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Heisman voting is complicated since each voter has can name three players and rank them.
I-2-3. (870 media types and 60 or so former winners)
There are about 40 players on average yearly that get votes.
The media people are split among 6 regions, but historically the west coast players suffer a hardship because their games are seen at night in the Midwest and East and to smaller tv audiences.
But Williams did shine in Prime Time last night over Notre Dame.
And the Pac12 Title game this Friday (USC/Utah) at 8pm EST is the only power five game being played that night.
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Luke Fickell to Wisconsin.
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Luke Fickell to Wisconsin.
Smart hire. He was our first choice when Dantonio bailed in 2020, but he decided he did not want to jump jobs that late.
Meanwhile ASU has hired John Dillermand, or something like that.
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Here is a quarter, call someone who gives a shit.
I give a shit, but I will not be taking his call.
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AP has it Georgia, Michigan, TCU, and SoCal
The next three are tOSU, Alabama and Tennessee
(A)
If TCU or SoCal lose the Play Off Committee tie breaking rules leave tOSU in the weakest position.
(B)
If both lose then Alabama comes into play.
If Ohio state falls to fifth Tuesday night, behind Alabama, do not bet against Saban in scenario (B).
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AP has it Georgia, Michigan, TCU, and SoCal
The next three are tOSU, Alabama and Tennessee
(A)
If TCU or SoCal lose the Play Off Committee tie breaking rules leave tOSU in the weakest position.
Tie breakers only come in to play if the Committee thinks the two teams present an equal resume, and the Committee has never considered a two loss team equivalent of a one loss major team. Theink The and Penn State which had all of the tie breakers but did not make the playoffs.
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AP has it Georgia, Michigan, TCU, and SoCal
The next three are tOSU, Alabama and Tennessee
If TCU or SoCal lose the Play Off Committee tie breaking rules leave tOSU in the weakest position.
Tie breakers only come in to play if the Committee thinks the two teams present an equal resume, and the Committee has never considered a two loss team equivalent of a one loss major team. Theink The and Penn State which had all of the tie breakers but did not make the playoffs.
The Committee line up tomorrow will lay the groundwork for final week of the regular season
If Ohio State is 5th it has a chance should TCU and/or SoCal lose.
But if Alabama jumps them then the stage is set for precedence to be broken.
It all depends on the Committe view of how far to drop the Buckeyes after the blowout loss to Michigan.
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Nothing screams "We have no moral compass" quite like hiring Hugh Freeze.
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Georgia 28, the Louisiana State University 14
Georgia is a lock, so I would rather look at LSU. Is there still a path forward for them? Assuming they beat Georgia, that is. Three losses should be an automatic disqualifier, but what if, say, USC, TCU and ClemSIN all lose? Could a three loss God apostrophe s Conference team get in? The last couple of weeks have been hard on some teams, including LSU, but if they beat Georgia who would get the two spots after Georgia and Methcicken in a TCU and USC lose scenario? Three of the Conferences will have champions with three losses. Do you take one of them, or a team that did not make the championship game but had a better record? Do you take a one loss The after being pantsed at home? Alabama, which is hanging around the top few of the committee rankings like I have been hanging around Cecily Strongs house lately, peeping in the windows, hiding in shrubbery, walking forlornly past the front gate, head down but eyes cast towards the door, waiting for an invitation to come join in? Or Tennessee which let us not forget beat Alabama? I have not loved the Georgia offense lately, but I think they can do more than enough here.
Methchicken 31, Purdue 10
I would say that Methchicken gets in regardless of the result here, but a loss to Purdue would be a heavier black mark than the other one loss teams have. Including The. Should not matter. There is the hangover possibility, after all their worst game was a look forward trap game with Illinois, and they could get caught between looking forward to the playoffs and looking back at the The game. Not happening. I expect them to BTO this game.
Texas Christian University 42, the Kansas State University 38
Is TCU a lock also, even if they lose this game? Over at CBS Sports they think so. I have noted before, the Committee has pretty consistently not considered one loss and two loss Power 5 teams as comparable, but I do wonder how the Committee would judge a one loss TCU and a one loss The, when TCU has a loss to a three loss KSU and The has a loss to Methchicken that is definitely number 2. TCU has played a cake OOC schedule and while the Pure Prairie League has some good teams, it has zero signature wins against other Power 5 Conferences, just things like ISU over Iowa. If they lose bad to KSU, it could get interesting though. Still, I expect them to win, and I would expect them to be in the playoffs with anything other than a blow out loss.
University of California* 43, Utah 42
Of the current presumed top 4 teams USC is the most tenuous, because they have the Championship game I can most see them losing, because after all, they already have lost to a Utah team I had in the playoffs at the start of the year. Lose, and they go into the pot with, my guess, The, Alabama and Tennessee for spots four through seven, and I suspect they go to seven. I suspect I have seen SC more than most people on the East Coast have, and their offense and defense both scare me, but in entirely different ways.
University of North Carolina 35, ClemSIN 21
When you have no signature wins, you cannot get that second loss. A win pegs ClemSIN into a NY6 game, but they dreamed of so much more. Has any single player been as much of a disappointment as Uiagalelei has been these last two years? My money, which I am not risking that is a metaphor is on an emotional let down. Not the NC is riding any higher. In two weeks this went from possibly intriguing match up with Playoff implications to a dumpster fire.
Tulane 31, University of Central Florida 28
The winner gets that coveted last NY 6 slot. I think Tulane is a good story, from 2 and 10 to a big time goal. Good job.
Ithaca 27, North Central 21
Ithaca leaves the still hearths, barren crags and aged wives of its homeland to drink deep the delight in battle with their peers far on the ringing plains of windy Napierville**. I doubt they will actually win, but their team name is the Bombers and has been since the 1930s. I just cannot pick against that.
Mount Union 42, Delaware Valley 10
In a way, the D III playoffs are like the big boys playoffs. At this point, we can be pretty confident of three of the teams.
Mary Hardin Mary Hardin-Baylor 35, Bethel 3
Between them, North Central, MH-B and the Mount have won the last six championships over the last seven years.
Wartburg 27, Aurora 20
But who is that fourth? I am hoping for Wartburg because anyone that names their college Wartburg deserves something. Though it dawns on me Aurora is a good name too.***
* Southern
** Tennyson, anyone?****
*** Look at me I am so smart.
**** See ***, supra.
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Nothing screams "We have no moral compass" quite like hiring Hugh Freeze.
Time to move on.
Freeze had the double whammy of recruiting violations and repeated calls to an Escort Service.(Not a good move for anEvangelical)
But as a coach he is pretty damn good. He took Ole Miss to 9 and 10 win seasons plus Bowl games (even won a Sugar Bowl) before his fall.
Best of all(to War Eagle! Alums) he is only one of three coaches to beat Nick Saban in back to back years.
That is a big plus in Alabama.
Now at Independent Liberty he has his team on the way to its fourth Bowl Game in four years.
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Big audience for The Game.
Really Big.
According to FOX, 17 million people watched Michigan beat Ohio State.
That is more than:
Every NBA Finals and NBA game
Every World Series and MLB game
Every Stanley Cup and NHL game
The Rose Bowl, Kentucky Derby, The Masters, the Indy 500 and the Daytona 500
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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/michigan-state-vs-penn-state-odds-are-stacked-students-rcna58289
All over East Lansing they are ignoring the story, slapping high fives and shouting, Yes! We are a Big Time Football School! It is right in the headline! Woo hoo!
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USA 1 Iran 0
This may be the biggest USA win over Iran since Hulk Hogan kicked the Iron Sheik s ass in the mid 80
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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/michigan-state-vs-penn-state-odds-are-stacked-students-rcna58289
All over East Lansing they are ignoring the story, slapping high fives and shouting, Yes! We are a Big Time Football School! It is right in the headline! Woo hoo!
How long before these entrepreneur-athletes throw a game or do a little innocent
point-shaving to throw some green to the student body?
All universities will, of course, self-regulate and self-report.
Throw wide open the transfer-portal, aka college draft, have the star QB appear in a commercial during the game, and let ESPN show a KENO game on the split screen.
WooHoo, indeed!
Point shaving is not really our problem.
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Not much drama for the playoffs now. At least 4 and no more than 5 teams will finish with one or fewer losses. That is the universe of potential playoff teams. USC wins, it is in. If it loses The is in. Here is an interesting seeding scenario. Methchicken and TCU win, Georgia and SC lose. That should make Methchicken the 1 seed and The the 4 seed.
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Not much drama for the playoffs now. At least 4 and no more than 5 teams will finish with one or fewer losses. That is the universe of potential playoff teams. USC wins, it is in. If it loses The is in. Here is an interesting seeding scenario. Methchicken and TCU win, Georgia and SC lose. That should make Methchicken the 1 seed and The the 4 seed.
I do not think the Committee will base its seeding that way.
They will not set up a conference rematch in the semi finals
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Alas, poor brutus😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not Dead Yet!
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USC losses were both to Utah
43-42 in the first game of the regular season
47-24 in the last game.
Defense obviously did not improve.
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It's a shame the SC AN was injured in the game. They were clicking on all cylinders until he lost the ability to run, a major part of his game. They would have won easily. What's sad is the joke that is the BCS will now consider schools that couldn't win their conf. Sad
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What's the BCS?
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It's a shame the SC AN was injured in the game. They were clicking on all cylinders until he lost the ability to run, a major part of his game. They would have won easily.
Kind of overlooks the anemic defense of the Men of Troy. 90 points given up to Utah in two games
Not one iota of improvement.
What's sad is the joke that is the BCS will now consider schools that couldn't win their conf. Sad
Well, of course.
They are looking for the best teams.
Fundamental.
By the way the BCS went away 8 years ago.
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Nice job by the official's in ot of the Big12 title game😂😂
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Nice job by the official's in ot of the Big12 title game😂😂
The line Judge was proven right.
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It's a shame the SC AN was injured in the game. They were clicking on all cylinders until he lost the ability to run, a major part of his game. They would have won easily. What's sad is the joke that is the BCS will now consider schools that couldn't win their conf. Sad
An argument i am sure you made in 2017, right?
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
Best part of his hatred is that he has so few opportunities to vent.
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
😤🤧👎Seriously, YG?
Whoops. Sorry DeeJ.
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Nice job by the official's in ot of the Big12 title game😂😂
The line Judge was proven right.
No he wasn't
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
Best part of his hatred is that he has so few opportunities to vent.
About as few as you have working brain cells
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Nick saban has always been a great coach and person.
It did, however, seem a little uncharacteristic of him to try and influence the Committee for inclusion into the playoff his team did not earn.
Alabama was closer to number 6 than 4, especially since they lost to number7, Tennessee.
Good luck in the Cotton Bowl, Nick. Kansas State will be tough to handle.
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So Cinn is going to play rival Louisville at Fenway Park in something called the Wasabi Bowl.Wasabi is the first thing I think of about Boston
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
Best part of his hatred is that he has so few opportunities to vent.
About as few as you have working brain cells
The above quote was for Skippy the buckeye. Yank has his brain cells pretty much intact. The funny thing is I never mentioned the cow milking university. I stated that schools who don't even make it to a conf championship game should not be considered. Skippy did the rest on his own
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Good one!
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
Best part of his hatred is that he has so few opportunities to vent.
About as few as you have working brain cells
The above quote was for Skippy the buckeye. Yank has his brain cells pretty much intact. The funny thing is I never mentioned the cow milking university. I stated that schools who don't even make it to a conf championship game should not be considered. Skippy did the rest on his own
Nothing like misquoting posts easily researched.
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So Cinn is going to play rival Louisville at Fenway Park in something called the Wasabi Bowl.Wasabi is the first thing I think of about Boston
True fact: they were going to go with the first think people think about when they think Boston, but opted against it because "Fuckwad Fans Bowl" was too aggressive and might be confused with a local HVAC company with the same name.
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Nick saban has always been a great coach and person.
Half right. Which beats your average. It did, however, seem a little uncharacteristic of him to try and influence the Committee for inclusion into the playoff his team did not earn.
Actually it seemed precisely and predictably characteristic.
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
Best part of his hatred is that he has so few opportunities to vent.
About as few as you have working brain cells
The above quote was for Skippy the buckeye. Yank has his brain cells pretty much intact. The funny thing is I never mentioned the cow milking university. I stated that schools who don't even make it to a conf championship game should not be considered. Skippy did the rest on his own
Nothing like misquoting posts easily researched.
You should know all about that. PROVEN LIAR.
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The Saban narrative of his team has a carefully scripted end to the year.
The Tide behind Bryce Young crushes Kansas State in the Sugar Bowl and Alabama crows it was better than TCU all along and deserved to be in the playoff.
But.
If Young sits out the Bowl Game on his way to the NFL the narrative falls apart.
Then Saban faces the reality of college football with the transfer portal and NIL.
Alabama, this year, filled recruiting holes through the portal at left tackle, tailback, cornerback and (2 )wide receivers. Without Young his qb bench is suspect.(without Young this year the Tide would have never been in the playoff conversation)
Despite having 4 straight years of top recruiting classes Bama has just two playoff appearances and one championship.( there is a different standard in Tuscaloosa)
So the famed Saban process will change to reflect a new era of building teams.
The have-nots are getting stronger with the freedom of movement among players.
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So the Wasabi Bowl just took an unusual twist.
The game matches Louisville and Cincinnati.
Cincinnati lost its coach, Luke Fickell, to Wisconsin last week.
Louisville, until, today was coached by Scott Satterfield
But today Satterfield left Louisville for the Cincinnati job.
His Louisville players now must prepare for a game against their former coach, who likely will take some current Louisville assistants with him.
Fun times in Beantown.
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
Best part of his hatred is that he has so few opportunities to vent.
About as few as you have working brain cells
The above quote was for Skippy the buckeye. Yank has his brain cells pretty much intact. The funny thing is I never mentioned the cow milking university. I stated that schools who don't even make it to a conf championship game should not be considered. Skippy did the rest on his own
Nothing like misquoting posts easily researched.
You should know all about that. PROVEN LIAR.
Okay so it was Yank who mentioned the cow milkers first and Skippy chimed in with his little cheerleading outfit. I'm just used to Skippy leading the charge.......
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
Best part of his hatred is that he has so few opportunities to vent.
About as few as you have working brain cells
The above quote was for Skippy the buckeye. Yank has his brain cells pretty much intact. The funny thing is I never mentioned the cow milking university. I stated that schools who don't even make it to a conf championship game should not be considered. Skippy did the rest on his own
Nothing like misquoting posts easily researched.
You should know all about that. PROVEN LIAR.
Okay so it was Yank who mentioned the cow milkers first and Skippy chimed in with his little cheerleading outfit. I'm just used to Skippy leading the charge.......
By the way, as an alumni of the finest AG school in the Midwest i resent "cow milkers" being applied to any other school. Well, except Wisky.
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The transfer portal opened today and initial numbers of players interested in changing teams is 500.
By the end of the processes that number could swell to 3000.
Which team next year will emulate the success this year of , say, TCU or SoCal?
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Nobody can find more ways to say "I detest Ohio State" than Bosox.
Best part of his hatred is that he has so few opportunities to vent.
About as few as you have working brain cells
The above quote was for Skippy the buckeye. Yank has his brain cells pretty much intact. The funny thing is I never mentioned the cow milking university. I stated that schools who don't even make it to a conf championship game should not be considered. Skippy did the rest on his own
Nothing like misquoting posts easily researched.
You should know all about that. PROVEN LIAR.
Okay so it was Yank who mentioned the cow milkers first and Skippy chimed in with his little cheerleading outfit. I'm just used to Skippy leading the charge.......
By the way, as an alumni of the finest AG school in the Midwest i resent "cow milkers" being applied to any other school. Well, except Wisky.
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BOWL SEASON!
Friday, Dec. 16[/i]
Hometown Lenders Bahamas Bowl: Miami (Ohio) vs. UAB
Yeah, a week in the Bahamas and home by Christmas. Not a bad reward for going 6 and 6. UAB has a better offense, and MOO has given up about 70 more ypg then they have gained. Plus, they are from the MAC and my usual rule is when in doubt, pick against the MAC. University of Alabama Birmingham.
Duluth Trading Cure Bowl: UTSA vs. Troy
About the only thing I know about this game is the teams all get gifted allegedly comfortable underwear, and the game is played in Duluth. Well, also it is rare for a first bowl day game to feature two Top 25 teams. UTSA has a more potent offense, with a diverse running game and a better and more efficient passing game. Plus, the Riverwalk is pretty cool. University of Texas San Antonio
Saturday, Dec. 17[/i]
Wasabi Fenway Fuckwad Fans Bowl: Cincinnati vs. Louisville
I sense this is a game that should be played more often, it is only an hour and a half down I 71 from one city to the other, and the recent coaching changes have made the situation a little more flavorful. It is interesting for a head coach to leave a Power 5 school for a Gang of Four* school, albeit temporarily. Fickell developed a pretty good program at Cinci and in a game with no permanent head coaches, I will use that as my decision point. Cininnati
Cricket Celebration Bowl: Jackson State vs. North Carolina Central
Deion Sanders built a pretty good program at Jackson State. On paper they are the better team but I have been reliably informed they will not be playing this game on paper. Still, JSU will want to give Prime Time a nice show on his way out. Jackson State
New Mexico Bowl: SMU vs. BYU
There is an off chance that Mordecai will account for ten touchdowns again, but I am not counting on it. BYU had a rough October, but it is not October anymore. Brigham Young University
Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl Presented by Stifel: the Washington State vs. the Fresno State
Clearly the least funny of all bowl games. I dog Wazzou for playing in the most God-forsaken outpost in the Power 5, but I have been to Fresno and I prefer Pullman. On the other hand, while Pullman is in the middle of the lovely Palouse, Fresno is only about 2 hours away from both Sequia and Yosemite. It is like comparing apples and raisins. What does that have to do with the game? Nothing. Nothing at all. the Washington State University
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LendingTree Bowl: Rice vs. Old Mississippi**
USM has its most famous alumni about to be indicted for welfare fraud. Ice is a base for the main dish, not the main dish itself. And they do not belong in a bowl. A 500 team and a team with a losing record? Pass. I do not care who wins this game. I do not care if they play it. But I do have to pick someone. Southern Mississippi
SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl: Florida vs. the Oregon State
Florida helped ruin the PAWCP in game 1. THEY ALSO LOST TO VANDERBILT. That is almost as bad as losing to Indiana. I think the Beavers can shut down the run and force Richardson to pass, which he is marginal at. A ow scoring game, but I do not think the Gators will like the Beavers, although it might get hairy. the Oregon State University
Frisco Bowl: North Texas vs. the Boise State
Taking us to a bowl game? You are fired! The Boise State has a much better defense against better competition. Ignore the opponent in common. the Boise State University
Monday, Dec. 19[/i]
Ron Jon Myrtle Beach Bowl: Marshall vs. UConn
They do not seem to have an actual sponsor, but from my time visiting my parents in Conway, where the game is played, it should be either Ron Jon or PGA TOUR Superstore. UConn is in a bowl after going 1 and 11 last year, and are playing in their first bowl game since losing the Leningrad Bowl in 2015 to, hey, Marshall! They are also a 500 team going up against a team that beat Our lady of the Perpetual Tie. More relevantly, UConn is a run dominant team and Marshall, playing tougher competition, limited teams to under 90 yards rushing per game. We are Marshall
Tuesday, Dec. 20[/i]
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl: Eastern Michigan vs. the San Jose State
EMU has not won a bowl game since the Reagan administration. But for those that think history repeats itself, their last bowl victory was against the San Jose State. If you think the history repeating itself is just a cliche that people use to get around thinking about what useless pieces of poo people are and that what is repeated so often is not history but people being assholes repeatedly, you take the San Jose State. [b[the San Jose State University[/b]
RoofClaim.com Rat Mouth Bowl: Liberty vs. Toledo
In a just and moral universe Liberty would have sunk under the Hell bound weight of the Falwell family. Instead, they have never lost a bowl game. But their ethically challenged coach is going off to egregiously violate NCAA rules at Auburn, and uniquely for MAC schools, Toledo is pretty good. Toledo
Wednesday, Dec. 21[/b
R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl: Western Kentucky vs. Alabama***
WKU has a pretty good offensive system, but not much of a defense to support it. South Alabama has a good offense, though I was disappointed to learn the QB is not Willie McCoy. Anyway. South Alabama
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Thursday, Dec. 22[/i]
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl: Baylor vs. Air Force
Baylor is in the middle of a defensive coordinator swap out, just in time to face a pretty unique offense. I had Baylor as a dark horse playoff team back when the word was young. I was wrong. They have been uninspiring all year long. Up in the air, Junior Birdmen! United State Air Force Academy
Friday, Dec. 23[/b
Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl: Louisiana vs. Houston
You would think that Houston and Lafayette, both along I 10, would be close rivals. If you think that you have never driven I Fucking 10. Houston has a high powered offense, but so do all the teams that play Houston because their defense sucks. Houston has scored 30 points in 11 of 12 games, and are 7 and 5. Res ipsa loquitor. Louisiana
Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl: Woke Forest vs. Missouri
Missouri gave Georgia its toughest game of the year so far. They are a 500 bowl team, but they did play a tougher than usual for God apostrophe s Conference OOC, including Kansas State. Of course, Kansas State blew them out. WtheFU has a good quarterback in Sam Hartman, Sam Hartman. They also went 1 and 4 down the stretch. Missouri
Saturday, Dec. 24[/i]
EasyPost Hawai'i Bowl: the Middle Tennessee State vs. the San Diego State
Two uninspiring 7 and 5 teams getting to spend their Christmas season in Hawaii. There are worse fates. MTSU beat Miami back when it seemed possible Miami would be something. I do not have anything else to go on. the Middle Tennessee State University
Monday, Dec. 26[/i]
Quick Lane Bowl: the New Mexico State vs. Bowling Green
So what we lost out on when we lost to Indiana was a trip to Detroit for Christmas and the chance to lose to a MAC school on Boxing Day. I am fine with sitting home. Maybe NMSU can appreciate the change from Las Cruces. Bowling Green
Tuesday, Dec. 27[/b
Camellia Bowl: Georgia** vs. Buffalo
Who cares? Not me! Georgia**
SERVPRO First Responder Bowl: Memphis vs. the Utah State
Perfect sponsor. Because an hour after the game, it will be like it never even happened. A bowl this forgettable should be played before Christmas. I do not care who plays. I do not care who wins. But I have to put something down so the Utah State University
TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl: Coastal Carolina vs. East Carolina
Can you buy tickets to this off SutbHub? Coastal has been a fairly good program for a low Gang of Four* conference team. Coastal Carolina
Guaranteed Rate Bowl: Wisconsin vs. the Oklahoma State
Never mind the coach, with Vivian Vance**** in the portal, who is playing quarterback for Wisky? The non Mertz quarterbacks threw 11 passes this year. Braelon Allen cannot do it all. the Oklahoma State
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Wednesday, Dec. 28[/i]
Military Bowl Presented by Peraton: UCF vs. Duke[/b]
What is Peraton? I had a joke but it kind of reminded me of Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffanys. I am, first, docking myself points because I am ashamed that I thought of the joke, second, giving myself points for not making it and third, subtracting said points for referencing it in for you to figure out. Duke
AutoZone Liberty Bowl: Kansas vs. Arkansas
Kudos to Kansas for bowl eligibility. But the Ar makes all the difference. Arkansas
San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl: Oregon vs. North Carolina
On the strength of their defense, but DEFINITELY NOT THEIR QUARTERBACK. Oregon
TaxAct Texas Bowl: Texas Tech vs. Old Mississippi
Typical Old Mississippi season. Start the year with seven straight wins then play teams that do not suck. TT has had some really mediocre QB play all year, but has still had a productive offense. And it has been a couple of years since I have been able to make a Shough of Despond joke, so I got that going for me. Texas Tech
Thursday, Dec. 29[/i]
Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl: Syracuse vs. Minnesota
Nothing says desperate male midlife crisis like Bad Boy Mowers. Your life was a sad waste and your sole connection with your past virility comes from mowing the lawn. Welcome to your fifties, loser. [/b]Minnesota[/b]
Cheez-It Bowl: Oklahoma vs. the Florida State
Oklahoma decided to spend the year proving the Peter Principle. Welcome to mediocre. the Florida State University
Valero Alamo Bowl: Texas vs. Washington
Well, they beat us so having them finish with 11 wins makes our year slightly less pathetic. But only slightly. Pennx can be a real headache. Washington
Friday, Dec. 30[/i]
Duke's Mayo Bowl: Maryland vs. the NC State
As I say every year, the concept of a Mayo Bowl just makes me gag. Worst menu item ever. Though since it has the South Atlantic League tie in, I anticipate the year Duke gets this game. Also, is Duke Mayo a thing? Hell, mann, we do not have it out here. Per Wikipedia it contains more egg yolks than other brands and no added sugar, so there is that. Baby Tags is healthy. Devin Leary is not dead, but he will be outside looking in from the portal.Maryland
Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl: Pittsburgh vs. UCLA
This game should be Grrrreat! I think the UCLA QB is sitting this out to prepare for the draft, though why is beyond me. He is a fourth rounder, hurt or healthy. University of Pittsburgh
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl: Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie vs. Carolina***
OLotPT will by pyneing for a quarterback. The Cocks took down a couple of giants their last couple of games, after an unimpressive start to their season. University of Carolina***
Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl: Ohio vs. Wyoming
A bowl game full of stupid hot takes and rampant sexism, I guess. Again, when in doubt pick against the MAC. On the other hand, I am rather fond of the Bobcats, who are normally bottom dwellers, and were as recently as last year. Never let common sense and past experience get in the way of a good story. Ohio
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Capital One Orange Bowl: No. 6 Tennessee vs. No. 7 ClemSIN
Well, it is the ORANGE bowl, and it could not be oranger. ClemSIN stuck with Ugelielie sic longer than I would have. Now that he is in the portal, Fran Kubelick is the quarterback of the present as well as the future. What gives me pause is that SWINEy has in the past shown no issue with cutting away from an underperforming incumbent QB. The thing about back ups is there is a reason why they are not starting and the quickest way to find out that reason is to start them. I am not sure the Tennessee defense is primed to let us know what that reason is, though. Given the Tennessee defense and the injury to Hooker, I look forward to ClemSIN winning big and that ass SWINEy complaining that they should have been in the playoffs instead of insert name of team that loses in round one here. ClemSIN
Saturday, Dec. 31[/i]
TransPerfect Music City Bowl: Iowa vs. Kentucky
It is good that in an increasingly anti LGBTQ, TERF filled world we get a football bowl game affirming the worth of most hated, marginalized and shunned segment of our society. You are who you are, and that is PERFECT. As for the game, with Levis in draft prep the team that can score twice wins. And yes, that could be 4 to 3. Kentucky
Allstate Sugar Bowl: No. 5 Alabama vs. No. 9 the Kansas State
Not to put the KSU on too much of a spot, but from experience Satan coached Bama teams tend to react badly when they are excluded from the championship pool and take it out on whoever they play. I am not sure if Jones is going to play yet, or if he will be prepping for the draft, but I suspect the month before the game is enough time for Satan to bring whatever stud freshman QB is in the wings up to speed. Alabama
Monday, Jan. 2[/i]
ReliaQuest Bowl: the Old Mississippi State vs. Illinois
I always am suspect of Mississippi teams, but Bret Bielema does not have a particularly good track record against teams from God apostrophe s conference. the Mississippi State University
Citrus Bowl: LSU vs. Purdue
For what it is worth, putting three teams in the NY 6 really puts the Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big 10 behind the mark in the mid level games. Especially here, more than any other game. The IINB10 had three good teams, all from the east, and all in the NY 6, none of which are Purdue. This should be the biggest blow out in the New Years window. the Louisiana State University
Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic: No. 10 UC***** vs. No. 16 Tulane
I assume Caleb Williams is reasonably healthy and will set aside time for game prep during the post Heisman rubber chicken circuit. If he is hurt I still like the Trojans, even if they cannot handle the Utes, but not as much. University of California***
Rose Bowl Game: No. 8 Utah vs. No. 11 the Penn State
Tough game to pick for me. I really like Utah, and that season opening loss to Florida seems harder to explain as time goes by. the PSU only loses to playoff teams, though, and they can play tough defense. Utah has the edge at QB, at time Clifford sems like Nix Lite, but I like the overall rounded PSU offense. I will go with the Kitties and their defense. the Pennsylvania State University
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College Football Playoff schedule
Saturday, Dec. 31[/i]
CFP semifinal at the Vrbo Fiesta Bowl: No. 2 Methchicken vs. No. 3 TCU
I got the sense that TCU was living on the edge for a while, and that it was a matter of time before they hit the wall. People seem to think that McCarthy has turned the corner, but I am not sure. He hit three huge plays against The, but the rest of his stats were pretty mundane. Still, he hit those big passes and Methchicken has a strong run game, even without Corum, and a really good defense. I do not think they will have much problem with TCU. Methchicken
CFP semifinal at the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl: No. 1 Georgia vs. No. 4 The
I so want to pull the trigger on the upset here, because I think if any team has the offensive tools to score on Georgia it is The. Smith Njigba has probably smartly decided not to risk his hammy but The has done fairly well without him all year, and they have a good stable or WR and RB to go with Stroud. Defensively it can be a struggle and The has been vulnerable to big plays. Georgia has the best defense in CFB, and while their offense is not anywhere like that level, they play confident solid football and can wear teams down, especially since Georgia keeps the other team defense on the field so much. The Law Firm of Stetson Bennett has put up some good numbers, even if he is a pretty limited athlete. But it is the defensive pressure that sways me. I can see The hanging close for a half, but I think in the end they wear The down. Georgia
Monday, Jan. 9
CFP National Championship Presented by AT&T: Georgia vs. Methchicken
You do not seriously believe I am taking Methchicken. Even if I thought they were going to win I would not pick them. Evil! They are evil! Georgia
* I love a man in a uniform.
** Southern
*** South
**** This is what separates the men from the boys. A lesser wit would have gone for a straight forward Ethel Mertz reference. Not me! I make you Google!
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Wow. Mike Leach died.
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https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/highest-paid-college-athletes-in-the-nil-era (https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/highest-paid-college-athletes-in-the-nil-era)
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Arkansas and Kansas game tonight makes the Bowl Season the greatest stretch of the sports year.
Thank god we preserve it.
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Clemson # 33 is named Ruke Orhorhoro, which sounds like a dog who is just learning to talk.
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Stupid, stupid 4th down call.
And throwing behind the receiver on an out pattern is almost a guaranteed 6.
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The Fiesta Bowl replay official is obviously related to Stevie Wonder.
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Not punching it in from the 1 is not the refs fault.
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Not punching it in from the 1 is not the refs fault.
Who said it was?
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If targeting was called on that last play it would have killed Captain Cargo.
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If targeting was called on that last play it would have killed Captain Cargo.
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If you are not going to rush the passer in a prevent the wide receiver will win over a linebacker most of the time.
That last OSU TD was textbook.
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At least Iowa won a bowl game
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If targeting was called on that last play it would have killed Captain Cargo.
Marvin Harrison, Jr. sat out the Fourth Quarter against Georgia after being hit in the head in the end zone. On the field it was flagged as targeting but overturned by replay. Harrison was put in concussion protocol. The call, if upheld,would have given tOSU a first and goal at the one.( instead of the field goal that ensued the Buckeyes could have had 4 more points)
Kudos to the coaches for keeping Harrison safely on the bench even though it greatly reduced Ohio State s offensive strength.
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Sounds like the BuckNuts should have invested in some back-up receivers.
Sounds like the BuckNuts got a taste of their own medicine.
Looked like the weak BuckNut QB was trying to throw the ball away and could not
throw it far enough.
Looked like a Hail Mary pass that left the receiver out to dry.
Did not look like targeting on the replay, so the booth officIals got it right.
Sounds like more excuses from the ZeroStaters. ROTFLMAO 😂😂😂🤩🥳
We will win the game or know the reason why! TFF!
Nothing I posted was a criticism or an excuse for anybody.
Only you could twist it that way.
It was intended as applauding the coaches for protecting the health of a player about to embark on what could be a great career in the NFL.
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And it was not the coaches protecting anyone, it was the medical staff, YDF!
Think about what you just posted.
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Your words, your thoughts. You think about them you worthless piece of shit!
Thanks.
Happy New Year
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Your words, your thoughts. You think about them you worthless piece of shit!
Thanks.
Happy New Year
You reap what you sow. AssHole: Why post here if not to get a reaction.
Thanks for playing.
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Slide back under your slimy rock for another year! Loser!
And do not forget your title MOST WRONG. Your latest: college athletes will Never get
paid beyond the near worthless educations they are being given at football factories.
College athletes do not get paid to play.
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Sorry, JumboNut, you used up all the time I have allotted you for 2023.
We must chat again in 2024. You are dismissed.
Glad to set you straight.
Your ignorance will not be missed.
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Your words, your thoughts. You think about them you worthless piece of shit!
Shame that some good members of the forum were axed and this foulmouthery is allowed (encouraged?) by the mods.
Happy New Year, all.
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Just when we thought it couldnot get any better we got the
GREEN WAVE!
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A fitting end to the Bowl Season.
Big Ten vs Pac12 in the Granddaddy.
College Football at its best.
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The entire universe can not wait for the day
when USC represents the Big Whatever in the Nose Bowl.
vs Stanford.
If so I hope USC does not put another disgusting example of poor sportsmanship on the field like Caleb Williams.
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The best of college football will be TCU v Georgia.
All the polls and computers agree.
No surprise RedStainWart is wrong again.
Really? I do not think the game will be close.
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Michigan football team must be in agony watching this TCU team get manhandled.
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Michigan football team must be in agony watching this TCU team get manhandled.
They should be thankful they are not getting pantsed likeast year.
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The AP top 25 for 2022 is a real head scratcher.
Top four are
Georgia
TCU
Michigan
tOSU
It is as if the CFP never happened after the seeding.
No wonder no one reads newspapers anymore.
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Colorado is joining g the Pure Prairie League again. We need Dandy Don to sing Turn Out the Lights, the Party's Over for the PAWCP. Schools will be looking for a soft landing.
Curious about the next round of expansion I noticed three interesting schools joined the AAU, a stated requirement for Big Whatever membership in 2023:
Arizona State University, which means the Phoenix market (U of A is Tucson and the twain never meet). Not great recruiting territory, but 5 mil in the media market cannot be sneezed at. Although outside of the state, their alumni base is non-existent. Still, lots of expats from Wisky, Ohio and Illinois out here
Miami (Florida), which would put the conference in Florida, meaning cable boxes and the best talent.
And... Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie.
I would think the Big Whatever would kill for the last two. If they go westerly, I could see ASU as a possibility, but only if the BW does not want BOTH Washington and Oregon.
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Recent conference expansion rumor has the Big Whatever adding U Dub, Oregon, ClemSIN and Florida State. The apparent implosion of the PAWCP (a list of potential replacements for the three schools it is losing included Fresno State and Boise which does not bode well) means the first two are in play, but neither ClemSIN nor FSU are AAU members. And while $ is paramount, the Big Whatever has consistently stated academic fit is important to the conference as well.
If Washington and Oregon go, look for the remaining four corner schools - Arizona Ztate, U of A and Utah - to crawl to the Pure Prairie League.
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Recent conference expansion rumor has the Big Whatever adding U Dub, Oregon, ClemSIN and Florida State. The apparent implosion of the PAWCP (a list of potential replacements for the three schools it is losing included Fresno State and Boise which does not bode well) means the first two are in play, but neither ClemSIN nor FSU are AAU members. And while $ is paramount, the Big Whatever has consistently stated academic fit is important to the conference as well.
If Washington and Oregon go, look for the remaining four corner schools - Arizona Ztate, U of A and Utah - to crawl to the Pure Prairie League.
Do not see BIG doing anything except making a run at ND and Miami.
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Looks like its The Ducks and the Huskies to the Big Whatever. I want them to add two more members if only because then I could use the stupidly amusing only to myself as I drive it into the ground nickname of the Big Tens for the conference.
Arizona to the Pure Prairie League, but only if ASU gets to tag along. They share a governing board that is pretty adamant that they travel in pairs. I guess the PPL is not as particular about not overlapping market footprints as the Big Whatever, so they could add UA, ASU and Utah for a little Four Corners rivalry with BYU and Colorado.
Cal and Stanford get screwed. I mean, yeah, Corvallis Academy and Agricultural College, Expirement Station and School of Science of the State of Washington (actual original names!) too, but no one cares about them. The Mountain West is going to get slightly more prestigious.
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Man this forum is nothing without me.
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I think the Pennsylvania State University wins the Big Whatever this year. You?
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Air Noland impressive!
https://www.on3.com/college/ohio-state-buckeyes/news/5-star-ohio-state-qb-commit-air-noland-leads-late-comeback-win-august-18-2023/ (https://www.on3.com/college/ohio-state-buckeyes/news/5-star-ohio-state-qb-commit-air-noland-leads-late-comeback-win-august-18-2023/)
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Man this forum is nothing without me.
Holy Ghost! ElCapitan is BACK!
Without you here, RedStainWart drove everyone away, except Risque.
I actually was afraid there was something seriously wrong with cap when RedDick made a pronouncement that was proven totally wrong just.four days later, and cap was silent. Anyway, it is long since time for this.
Who is not on my list:
Wisconsin, Iowa, Others
I have traditionally reserved a place on my Top 10 for a Someone is Winning The Increasingly Inaccurately Named Big Ten West team. Iowa and Wisky are the two best options for that, but I still think the IINB10W will be a lot like they were last year, competitive, but with no dominant team. Which means the IINB10W Champ is looking like a three loss team. Of the two, I do not think Iowa will fix the offense, but that defense should keep them in every game. Wisky is the biggest possibility for a break through, because they aced the coaching hire. The loss of Brohm drops the Due down my list, but both Minnesota and Illinois are pretty well coached. No one will run away with it, but the IINB10W Champ is likely to have 3 Ls.
Texas Christian University
Yeah, that epic smoking could have a ripple effect next year, but that is not why I think people who are ranking them highly are off base. TCU lived on the edge in 2022, being on the winning end of six one score games last year. Max Duggan Returns not. I expect a couple of the Pure Prairie League teams to be improved. I just do not see TCU having a run like last year.
The Rest of the Pure Prairie League
One of them will be Top 10 at the end of the year. I just do not have a good read on who. I was surprised at how much Oklahoma underperformed in 2022, and Texas has the buzz, but they strike me as pre-Smart Georia; never quite as good as I expect them to be. So who wins the league? Maybe Okie State, maybe Baylor. Heck, despite my misgivings, maybe Texas. I do not know, but someone will be there, and likely in the Top 10. My money, if I had any, would be on Oklahoma, but I am not confident enough to put them in.
Tennessee, Florida, South Carogoddamnedlina
Smart has built quite a program at Georgia, and he has rid the team of its earlier propensity for an annual Clemsoning. Which decreases the margin of error for other God Apostrophe S Conference East teams. Both of Florida and Tennessee are breaking in new QBs and while Tennessee had success going Hookerless in a small sample, they also travel to a revenge minded Tide and have a really sneaky tough matchup with UTSA. Florida draws LSU, goes to Utah and ends with Florida State, and both have to deal with whatever South Carolina will be, as well as each other. Hard to see the GasCE runner up being a one or two loss team.
Oregon, Utah, Washington
Soon to be welcomed to the Midwest, Oregon, Utah and Washington are competitors for the last year of the PAWCP. Bo Nix is coming back for one more year. Which will lose Oregon two games they have no business losing. Utah also returns their starting QB, at least until he gets hurt prior to their bowl game again, but that is less of a two edged sword. Utah is playing a tough OOC with Florida and Baylor, and their two toughest PAWCP games are on the road, against the Trojenz and Washington. As for Washington I hate Michael Pennix, but for the right reasons, meaning every time he plays us he does something pretty good. But while it looks like they are returning serious talent, they also have serious scheduling issues. Not just visiting us which is one L right there, but games against Boise State and the other three best teams in the PAWCP on the road. I am struggling to see a two loss team among this group.
Who is on my list:
11. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie
Several of the teams I have discussed above have to work through two or three games against top flight competition, as so does OLotPT.They are a good team, but they play three of the teams in my Functionally Top 10, The, USC and ClemSIN. I am giving them this slot because they have the most doable schedule, after that, of those teams. Tough enough to impress watchers, but not so tough as they should not be big favorites in most games. I assume Sam
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11. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie
Several of the teams I have discussed above have to work through two or three games against top flight competition, as so does OLotPT.They are a good team, but they play three of the teams in my Functionally Top 10, The, USC and ClemSIN. I am giving them this slot because they have the most doable schedule, after that, of those teams. Tough enough to impress watchers, but not so tough as they should not be big favorites in most games. I assume Sam Mary Hartman is the new starter, with the loss of Buchner. Inconsistent QB play was a huge problem for them in 22, but if they can get good play from that position, the rest of the pieces are there. They just need to win one of those three big games.
10. the Florida State
They have one of the better returning QBs and good returning skill players on offense. It has been a dry spell since the height of the Jimbo Fisher years, but the return of Jordan Travis gives them at least stability at the QB position, if not high level excellence. Their receiving corps was bolstered by the addition of a damned traitor to bolster an already deep position. They had a strong running game last year, and despite losing a top back should be solid there as well. Defensively, they had some problems along the line last year, but have used the transfer portal well. Tough schedule, though, with both LSU and Florida OOC.
9. ClemSIN
So now we find out, was it just Ukelele or is there something else that makes ClemSIN less than it had been with Watson and Jennifer Lawrence as QB. Fran Kubelik returns as QB, Shipley at RB, and Baby Riley heads in from TCU as the new OC. Could be a fun O. The secondary needed work in its first post-Venable year, although there is, of course, talent. Schedule includes OLotPT and South Carogod etc as functionally OOC. But I cannot escape the nagging feeling that ClemSIN had success all those years because they had a superior QB, and they have lacked that success because they cannot work fully around a pretty good one.
8. Alabama
Something about Bama last year just seemed off, especially for a Satan coached team, and they never seemed to gel despite Young being great. They are breaking in a new quarterback and they still do not know who, which is pretty late, decision making wise. Still, they do have some good options, and. I am more worried about the receivers, who last year did not meet previous expectations, and the number of new O Line players. They have the same issue on Defense. They have been in reload mode for so many years now, it is hard to think they will struggle with any of this, but it almost feels like there are more cracks in the foundation this year.
7 The
My guess is that one of the three IINB10E teams will lose twice. Two might end up in the playoffs, though, depending on the breaks. Stroud is a big loss, but whoever gets the position has the advantage of perhaps the best skill position talent in CFB. As with Alabama I still worry that The does not have the next guy already in mind, but The really has become Wide Receiver U the last few years, and their two most productive receivers from 2022 return, as do Williams and Henderson in the backfield. I am more concerned about losing both tackles and their center than who will be the QB. The returns most of their defense, for better and worse. They have three easy games to break everyone in before that trip to OLotPT. I have them 3 of the IINB10E teams because The has become susceptible to the big play on defense. That needs fixing, or they are the IINB10E team with the two losses, especially since of the three The plays the only difficult team OOC.
6. Meatchicken
Blake Corum returning is pretty helpful, and Donovan Edwards gives them probably the third best backfield tandem in the IINB10E, but I am not convinced they have the passing game to win the Championship. McCarthy scorched The, but that was more big plays than a sustained excellence; even against The he was a 50 percent passer. The receivers were merely solid last year, with no one threat to elevate the air attack. Defensively they had some significant losses, but they were hit harder after 2021, so provided their DC does not also get caught uploading whacking materials on a work computer, I think they will be fine. Or, well, did you see that TCU game? Either that was a huge anomaly or there is something rotten in the City of Ann Arbor. They do have a pathetic OOC schedule once again, with no Power 5 teams for two years in a row, which helps them in the Top 5 battle. I mean unless they lose to Directional Carolina
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That is pathetic. They do have Texas and Oklahoma on upcoming schedules, and any team can get caught between Home and Homes for one year, but come ON.
5. the Louisiana State University
I am grouping these next two teams at 6 and 7, but I really think one of them is going to be in the playoff but, well, see below. Anyway, it turns out that what the LSU needed was a good coach. They have a really good defense, with Smith, Wingo and Perkins as bulwarks in front, which they will need because they will have an inexperienced secondary. Offensively, they really struggled on the O line and their leading rusher last year, in terms of attempts, was their QB. I think Daniels limits their upside and their floor, offensively, especially if they cannot field a top tier running back. Still, they have recovered from the Orgeron hangover pretty quickly, and I expect them to challenge Alabama for the GasCW.
4. University of Southern California
They return the Heisman winner on offense, and most of the remaining skill position players. They pretty much scored at will. Unfortunately, so did the teams they played. They need to fix the defense to be elite, and Riley did not exactly have the rep as a defensive guru when he was at Oklahoma. They have been the poster child for PAWCP footsie; perhaps I am just thinking them winning the league in its last real incarnation just feels right.
3. the Pennsylvania State University
Sean Clifford returns for his eighth year of eligibility. What? Finally? OK, so like The, the PSU is breaking in a new QB, but unlike The, Clifford should not be that hard to replace, and there is no battle to replace him. Drew Allar was one of the top recruits at QB coming into last year. Played well when he had the chance, and he has the advantage of handing off to a dynamic established duo of running backs. I expect the same traditionally strong defense. They technically have a Power 5 team on their OOC (West Virginia) but not a real threat, and they should roll into that October 21 game against The in Columbus unbeaten. I like them the best of the three top IIMB10E teams.
2. Georgia
Well, they have to replace Stetson Bennett and some key defensive people. Normally, this would make me hold off on them as the top team, but damn. Anyway, their QB depth chart contains people named
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2. Georgia
Well, they have to replace Stetson Bennett and some key defensive people. Normally, this would make me hold off on them as the top team, but damn. Anyway, their QB depth chart contains people named Beck and Brock and Gunner so you know they will be good. Two of them are 5 star prospects. And, well, they are still throwing to Bowers. Note: as of last Friday, they are going with Carson Beck which hardly seems like a real name. They lose a lot on defense, but not as much as last year and the fill ins are all talented and experienced. The schedule is pretty fortunate, saved from being Meatchicken OOC level by their game against a bad Power 5 in state rival, and they are missing both the LSU and Alabama in conference. Of course, there are also three really good CasCE teams waiting to pounce if they slip a little or have an off game, so it is not a cakewalk. It is hard to repeat, and harder to threepeat (though the hardest part of the threepeat is the repeat) but while I would bet against them winning it all again this year, there is also no one more likely than them to win it all.
1. EVENTUAL 2023 2024 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Peyton Thorne transferred to Auburn, leaving Katin Doogie Hauser and Noah Kim to battle for the starting spot. Well, I guess they looked at the competition and decided to Leavitt open. Well my guess is Kim, but I do not really know right now who it will be. Our O Line was awful last year, and the secondary play was little better. We have recruited well under Tucker (though because of the late Dantonio retirement, we essentially lost one year) so the sophomore class needs to step up on those areas. Losing Reed and Coleman hurts, regardless of who the QB is. Not sure who the starting wideout, but I note we have the second best legacy scion of a Hall of Fame receiver with the same name in the IINB10E, for what that is worth. We are probably the 4th best IINB10E team at best this year, but of the three better ones, only the annual ritual massacre by The is on the road.
Last year made 2021 look more like an illusion, where Walker III covered for a lot of sins, but I do not think we were as bad as we played last year. The talent is there for an 8 or 9 win season, but given that schedule the margin of error is pretty slim. We need to beat one of the Top 10 teams we play and then run a table which includes a trip to Iowa.
Anyway, my pick for the five teams to make the playoffs, seeded are
Michigan State
Georgia
the Pennsylvania State University
the Louisiana State University
University of Southern California
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Really, all of the oceans are interconnected so the Pacific really is the Atlantic, so Palo Alto may as well be on the Atlantic Coast.
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I think the latest college football expansion should result in a new conference name.
The A and P.
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OMG Northwestern has a so bad offense. Getting punked by Rutgers.
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Sad for me to see the pac12 disappear. A lot of historic match-ups.
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Lose shutout on a fumbled punt return late in 4th quarter.
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Hope jbott is well.
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Mel Tucker fired at MSU.
Michigan State fired head football coach Mel Tucker Sunday, hours after he was accused of sexually harassing a rape survivor in 2022
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Mel Tucker fired at MSU.
Michigan State fired head football coach Mel Tucker Sunday, hours after he was accused of sexually harassing a rape survivor in 2022
Wrong again. But probably only temporarily wrong.
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The real issue is, considering the charges date from, what, December? Why has he been coaching and recruiting at all this year?
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Anyway, The Bangstick era begins.
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Nice to see a couple of.cast off quarterbacks who could not cut it in the Big Who Knows How Many having success in an inferior conference.
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Oddly, that was only the second most embarrassing thing to happen to my beloved Spartans this week.
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Mel Tucker fired at MSU.
Michigan State fired head football coach Mel Tucker Sunday, hours after he was accused of sexually harassing a rape survivor in 2022
Wrong again. But probably only temporarily wrong.
Yes, for a change, only temporarily wrong.
https://247sports.com/Article/michigan-state-announces-process-of-firing-football-coach-mel-tucker-216415715/
I assume a pretty hefty booster funded buy out.
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https://247sports.com/Article/michigan-state-announces-process-of-firing-football-coach-mel-tucker-216415715/
I assume a pretty hefty booster funded buy out.
if he is fired for cause he is out the remainer of his contracted pay.
I think he had 95 million over 8 years and this is his third?
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https://247sports.com/Article/michigan-state-announces-process-of-firing-football-coach-mel-tucker-216415715/
I assume a pretty hefty booster funded buy out.
if he is fired for cause he is out the remainer of his contracted pay.
I think he had 95 million over 8 years and this is his third?
My assumption is settlement in lieu of litigation.
I think it is only year 2. He leveraged Kenneth Walker III, 2021 and the LSU opening for the pay day.
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https://247sports.com/Article/michigan-state-announces-process-of-firing-football-coach-mel-tucker-216415715/
I assume a pretty hefty booster funded buy out.
if he is fired for cause he is out the remainer of his contracted pay.
I think he had 95 million over 8 years and this is his third?
My assumption is settlement in lieu of litigation.
Then it would not need Booster money and I doubt they would insult boosters by asking anyway given it is a moral cause.
2/9 of 95 million, 74 million assuming they pay him full salary this year.
Pretty expensive phone sex.
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https://247sports.com/Article/michigan-state-announces-process-of-firing-football-coach-mel-tucker-216415715/
I assume a pretty hefty booster funded buy out.
if he is fired for cause he is out the remainer of his contracted pay.
I think he had 95 million over 8 years and this is his third?
My assumption is settlement in lieu of litigation.
Then it would not need Booster money and I doubt they would insult boosters by asking anyway given it is a moral cause.
2/9 of 95 million, 74 million assuming they pay him full salary this year.
Pretty expensive phone sex.
Oh, they already have a huge booster commitment for that 95 million. A little of that to make it go away. In my experience moral causes cost money to effectuate.
Now, as to hiring Brian Hartline...
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https://247sports.com/Article/michigan-state-announces-process-of-firing-football-coach-mel-tucker-216415715/
I assume a pretty hefty booster funded buy out.
if he is fired for cause he is out the remainer of his contracted pay.
I think he had 95 million over 8 years and this is his third?
My assumption is settlement in lieu of litigation.
Then it would not need Booster money and I doubt they would insult boosters by asking anyway given it is a moral cause.
2/9 of 95 million, 74 million assuming they pay him full salary this year.
Pretty expensive phone sex.
Oh, they already have a huge booster commitment for that 95 million.
Which will not be needed.
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Now that was a football game!
Eat it Lou Holtz!
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https://247sports.com/Article/michigan-state-announces-process-of-firing-football-coach-mel-tucker-216415715/
I assume a pretty hefty booster funded buy out.
if he is fired for cause he is out the remainer of his contracted pay.
I think he had 95 million over 8 years and this is his third?
My assumption is settlement in lieu of litigation.
Then it would not need Booster money and I doubt they would insult boosters by asking anyway given it is a moral cause.
2/9 of 95 million, 74 million assuming they pay him full salary this year.
Pretty expensive phone sex.
Oh, they already have a huge booster commitment for that 95 million.
Which will not be needed.
Just as an FYI, Tucker plans litigation:
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/campus/2023/09/19/mel-tucker-michigan-state-health-condition-statement-firing-brenda-tracy/70900080007/
My reading between the lines is he will be arguing the real motivation for firing him was whatever medical condition he is claiming. Though I am not aware of any medical condition that has as a symptom the need for squeezing one out on a Zoom call with a rape survivor.
They will buy him out to make it go away, even though it looks like he does not deserve it.
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https://247sports.com/Article/michigan-state-announces-process-of-firing-football-coach-mel-tucker-216415715/
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I assume a pretty hefty booster funded buy out.
if he is fired for cause he is out the remainer of his contracted pay.
I think he had 95 million over 8 years and this is his third?
My assumption is settlement in lieu of litigation.
Then it would not need Booster money and I doubt they would insult boosters by asking anyway given it is a moral cause.
2/9 of 95 million, 74 million assuming they pay him full salary this year.
Pretty expensive phone sex.
Oh, they already have a huge booster commitment for that 95 million.
Which will not be needed.
Just as an FYI, Tucker plans litigation:
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/campus/2023/09/19/mel-tucker-michigan-state-health-condition-statement-firing-brenda-tracy/70900080007/
My reading between the lines is he will be arguing the real motivation for firing him was whatever medical condition he is claiming. Though I am not aware of any medical condition that has as a symptom the need for squeezing one out on a Zoom call with a rape survivor.
They will buy him out to make it go away, even though it looks like he does not deserve it.
Nope
If MSU does it is chicken shit.
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Michigan State made the firing of Tucker official.
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Sadly,MSU is in a sad state off affairs and it will not be over for a long while.
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Sadly,MSU is in a sad state off affairs and it will not be over for a long while.
While it was seem long to me -I was be pleasantly surprised to win two more.games this year- how long it will take.to rebound will depend.in large measure on the hire, how the recruits respond, and the portal. Much easier to turn a program around quickly now.
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Sadly,MSU is in a sad state off affairs and it will not be over for a long while.
While it was seem long to me -I was be pleasantly surprised to win two more.games this year- how long it will take.to rebound will depend.in large measure on the hire, how the recruits respond, and the portal. Much easier to turn a program around quickly now.
10 years, minimum.
This is not the Big Ten( in numbers) anymore. And there a lot of more appealing places to use the portal.
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Sadly,MSU is in a sad state off affairs and it will not be over for a long while.
While it was seem long to me -I was be pleasantly surprised to win two more.games this year- how long it will take.to rebound will depend.in large measure on the hire, how the recruits respond, and the portal. Much easier to turn a program around quickly now.
10 years, minimum.
This is not the Big Ten( in numbers) anymore. And there a lot of more appealing places to use the portal.
Depends on the hire. Schools have rebounded quickly from bad situations.
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Sadly,MSU is in a sad state off affairs and it will not be over for a long while.
While it was seem long to me -I was be pleasantly surprised to win two more.games this year- how long it will take.to rebound will depend.in large measure on the hire, how the recruits respond, and the portal. Much easier to turn a program around quickly now.
10 years, minimum.
This is not the Big Ten( in numbers) anymore. And there a lot of more appealing places to use the portal.
Depend on the hire. Schools have rebounded quickly from bad situations.
Trouble for MSU is USC,UCLA, Oregon,and Washington are now in th B!G.
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Sadly,MSU is in a sad state off affairs and it will not be over for a long while.
While it was seem long to me -I was be pleasantly surprised to win two more.games this year- how long it will take.to rebound will depend.in large measure on the hire, how the recruits respond, and the portal. Much easier to turn a program around quickly now.
10 years, minimum.
This is not the Big Ten( in numbers) anymore. And there a lot of more appealing places to use the portal.
Depend on the hire. Schools have rebounded quickly from bad situations.
Trouble for MSU is USC,UCLA, Oregon,and Washington are now in th B!G.
Why is that a problem? They were huge programs before, and they still are. They have access to Big Whatever recruiting markets and we have access to theirs. The right hire, the right recruiters and the program can turn around. Wrong hire and we are Illinois.
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Sadly,MSU is in a sad state off affairs and it will not be over for a long while.
While it was seem long to me -I was be pleasantly surprised to win two more.games this year- how long it will take.to rebound will depend.in large measure on the hire, how the recruits respond, and the portal. Much easier to turn a program around quickly now.
10 years, minimum.
This is not the Big Ten( in numbers) anymore. And there a lot of more appealing places to use the portal.
Depend on the hire. Schools have rebounded quickly from bad situations.
Trouble for MSU is USC,UCLA, Oregon,and Washington are now in th B!G.
Why is that a problem?
Because those four will now be part of the Big Ten Tv contracts with three major networks and the Big Ten Network, leading to more TV exposure and more TV revenue.
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Sadly,MSU is in a sad state off affairs and it will not be over for a long while.
While it was seem long to me -I was be pleasantly surprised to win two more.games this year- how long it will take.to rebound will depend.in large measure on the hire, how the recruits respond, and the portal. Much easier to turn a program around quickly now.
10 years, minimum.
This is not the Big Ten( in numbers) anymore. And there a lot of more appealing places to use the portal.
Depend on the hire. Schools have rebounded quickly from bad situations.
Trouble for MSU is USC,UCLA, Oregon,and Washington are now in th B!G.
Why is that a problem?
Because those four will now be part of the Big Ten Tv contracts with three major networks and the Big Ten Network, leading to more TV exposure and more TV revenue.
Yes, but MSU will also have increased exposure in other markets as well,.particular on the left coast. That was the idea of expansion.
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My attempts to fix formatting have made it worse.
Anyway, the Big Whatever has released its in conference scheduling for the next five years, including announcing 12 protected match ups based on traditional geographic and trophy rivalries. What strikes me as odd is that none of the rivalries involve the Penn State. OK, I can see shelving the Land Grant Trophy game - we do not deserve it and it is such an ugly trophy - but why did the Big Whatever not protect the the PSU v the game? I would think the broadcast partners would demand that. But then, they do not have the and USC playing for two years, so they may not be as beholden to ratings concerns as I thought.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-investigates-michigan-for-alleged-in-person-scouting-michigan-state-notified-ahead-of-week-8-game/
Fucking cheaters should be forced to forfeit every game this year, including the ones they have not played. Or at least this Saturdays game.
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"How much worse could this year get?"
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/michigan-state-shows-image-of-hitler-on-stadium-videoboard-apologizes-during-michigan-loss/
Oh.
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Came over to Sports to post that but of course the Michigander has it covered. Not really that transgressive if it was just a trivia quiz, but the timing was horrible.
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I am beginning to think it is just possible Michigan State may not.be bowl eligible this year.
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Well thank God that is over. Bring on Jonathan (Not John and No L) Smith.
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Harbaugh will be in the pros next year.
Smith leaving his alma mater is a symptom of the demise of the PAWCP.
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I have not done this all year because, frankly, no one has been here but what the Hell. Note my fondness for potential chaos in a final four team Playoff Field that might otherwise feature the only four unbeaten teams in the Country.
CUSA Championship, New Mexico State v. Liberty
I know Liberty handled NMSU pretty easily early in the season but I will not, under any circumstances, pick a school inextricably entwined with the Hell ensconced Jerry Falwell for anything, ever. New Mexico State.
May It Rest In Peace Conference, Oregon v. Washington
Just sticking in my oar here, but please please please can one result of this conference dying be that USC and UCLA play each other on the last Saturday of the regular season again? Anyway, Washington is a good team, but I watched their earlier win against Oregon and thought that Oregon was the better team, hamstrung by an over reliance on analytics over plain football sense. Kick a fucking field goal now and again for fucks sake. Not only are they the better team, they are also the Chaos Choice. Oregon
Pure Prairie League Championship, Oklahoma State v. Texas
Texas has a couple of close wins to go with the loss to Oklahoma, but at least they did not lose to South Alabama AT HOME. I have seen nothing from Okie State to make me think they will win this. So they probably will, but. Texas
MAC Championship, Miami (OH) v. Toledo
Toledo won a fairly close game in Oxenford the first time out. Other than that loss, the two teams only have their Power 5 conference loss on their plate. I will rely on the prior game result. Toledo
Future Home of Wazzou and Oregon State, Boise State v. UNLV
Not much to go on here. Both got bitch slapped by currently Top 4 teams, both lost to the Fresno State Fighting Raisins. Maybe it is brand recognition, but I will take. Boise State
American Conference Championship, SMV v. Tulane
Tulane is in line for a trip to the desert with a win. They have been pretty good all year, a respectable loss to Old Mississippi being their only loss. SMU has two respectable losses, by virtue of playing two Power Five teams instead of one. But there is a strong chance that a Tulane loss might put Liberty into a NY6 game, and I will not allow that. Tulane
God apostrophe s Conference Championship, Georgia v. Alabama
As for chaos, Alabama winning would create clarity, not chaos, because in the event of a loss by any of the other unbeatens, a one loss Georgia would clearly get in. But I do not think that happens. Alabama has gotten better most of the year, fluke near miss to PAYTON FUCKING THORNE notwithstanding. But Georgia is on a Bud Wilkinson at Okie kind of run right now. They are the best team in GFB, and I do not see a let down. Georgia
Sun Belt Championship, Appalachian State v. Troy
App State once beat Meatchicken. I have friended them ever since. App State
SWAC Championship, Prairie View A and M v. Florida A and M
My sole data point on this? Last year, while vacationing in the St. Augustine area, I bought a polo shirt with the FAMU Rattler logo on it at a T J Maxx. My wife and I make odd tourism choices. FAMU
South Atlantic League Championship, Florida State v. Louisville
With Travis, this would be FSU. But without him? I watched the back up play last week against a mediocre Florida squad and, even accounting for the rivalry factor, it was not great. It is probably the chaos worshipper in me that makes this pick. Brohm was a pretty good hire. Louisville
Engulf and Devour Conference Championship, Meatchicken v. Iowa
Have to respect the Iowa defense enough to think it will be close, but between their offense and the Meatchicken defense, Iowa could wind up with negative yards from scrimmage. It pains me to do this, but Meatchicken
So, with those results, two teams are obviously set for the playoffs, Georgia and Meatchicken. But these results do leave us with a few choices for those final two spots.
First, I think the easy choice is Oregon, as a Conference Champion, and the most likely currently highest rated one loss team. That leaves four once beaten teams (Remember, the Committee has never in their final rankings elevated a two loss team over a one loss team, so even Alabama is out). Florida State, Texas, the, and Washington.
First out would be, I think, Florida State. They really do not have a signature win over a highly ranked team. In fact, it looks like the only Top 25 team they will play all year will be Louisville. They will not have a conference championship. You need to be perfect with that kind of schedule. I think that the Committee is not supposed to take injuries into account, specifically, but it is hard to separate the loss of their starting quarterback from consideration.
Herbstreet was treating the Meatchicken loss as disqualifying for the, but I do not think it is. For a one loss team they have a lot going for them. They have the best loss and wins over two of the Top 25 teams. The Committee also clearly likes them based on the eye test. It will be interesting to see where the Committee puts them in relation to Texas this week. But remember, they will not have a conference championship and they are also lacking that crucial thirteenth game data point. I think Texas leapfrogs them, regardless of where they are ranked.
So in the end, it comes down to Texas and Washington. In theory all the cards should be playing for Washington. They will have had the best win of the two, Oregon as opposed to two loss Alabama. Also, the best loss of the two, Oregon over Oklahoma. The RIP Conference was also stronger than the Pure Prairie League and stronger than it had been in a while, which gave Washington three wins over Top 25 teams in the AP, as opposed to Texas winning two, counting the Championship game. But, it is hard to envision the RIP Conference getting two slots when there are other valid choices. It would essentially give three slots to the Engulf and Devour Conference. I think being a Conference Champ would elevate Texas. So, my final four would be
Georgia
Meatchicken
Oregon
Texas.
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Great analysis
Thank you. I will be interested in seeing where the Committee places the and Texas tonight.
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What happens when Texas pulls a Texas (that used to be Clemson pulling a Clemson before they figured it out) and loses to Oklahoma State on Saturday?
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What happens when Texas pulls a Texas (that used to be Clemson pulling a Clemson before they figured it out) and loses to Oklahoma State on Saturday?
Based on my other winners above? The gets in over Washington.
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I think if I reenrolled at MSU I would stand a decent chance of being the quarterback next year.
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I may have to learn how to spell his name.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/dj-uiagalelei-to-enter-transfer-portal-oregon-state-ex-clemson-qb-moves-on-again-after-resurrecting-career/
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Does the Committee have the balls toea e God apostrophe s Conference out?
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One can only imagine the tantrum Saban would throw.
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One can only imagine the tantrum Saban would throw.
That would be a great side benefit.
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If cap were still here I I would be forced to apologize and admit he was right. I had always defended the Committee as being consistent in its vision, even when it seemed random. But. I can no longer defend for instance taking the over PSU in 2016. The Committee had consistently held a two loss team and a one loss team presented different resumes. If a two loss team is not comparable to a one loss team, a one loss team shod not be comparable to an unbeaten one. I cannot help but think name and conference bias got Alabama in. If Georgia had won, the Committee would not have hesitated to take FSU over Texas. Not for a second.
Crop. Justice requires me to root for Meatchicken in the first round. I may need some time to adjust to this.
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I still have no idea why there has to be those 6 in season playoff rankings.
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I still have no idea why there has to be those 6 in season playoff rankings.
TV advertising revenue for ESPN, and something for Paul Firebaum to talk about for a couple months.
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Kyle McCord to the rather crowded QB transfer portal.
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Just learned that the has an incoming freshman QB named Air Noland. Sweet.
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Well, I think Power 4 Confernce champs will get in automatically next year. With 12 slots, the argument from God apostrophe s Conference is going to be whether they should get 3 or 4 slots every year. But not this year. There is no automatic in, even for the best conferemce. And for the record i do not hate that Conference. I hate the arrogance,.sense of superiority and feelings of entitlement of their fans and media supporters.
It is not like the Committee has not put a team riding a third stringer into the post season in before. FSU earned the chance to see if their defense and a scheme designed around their second stringer. I think Bama stands a pretty good chance of winning it all this year. But by the Committee processes and history, they should not be in.
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If the same results Saturday happened with Jordan Travis playing the SEC would not have a team in the CFP.
And we would have Finebaum and Saban spitting nails.
The same way Bo Schembechler did in 1973When Big Ten ADs sent Ohio State to the Rose Bowl, not Michigan. The 2 tied for the League title after playing to a 10 all tie in the last game.
Mich QB Dennis Franklin was knocked out of the game with a season ending injury.
The Athletic Directors cited that as the overriding reason the vote went to OSU.
But there was also a darker reason to some, MSU was accused of throwing its vote to Ohio State to avoid Michigan getting a recruiting advantage.
In the Rose Bowl OSU beat USC 42-21.
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If the same results Saturday happened with Jordan Travis playing the SEC would not have a team in the CFP.
And we would have Finebaum and Saban spitting nails.
The same way Bo Schembechler did in 1973When Big Ten ADs sent Ohio State to the Rose Bowl, not Michigan. The 2 tied for the League title after playing to a 10 all tie in the last game.
Mich QB Dennis Franklin was knocked out of the game with a season ending injury.
The Athletic Directors cited that as the overriding reason the vote went to OSU.
But there was also a darker reason to some, MSU was accused of throwing its vote to Ohio State to avoid Michigan getting a recruiting advantage.
Fuck yes we did!
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"As long as Michigan requires it recruits to be functionally literate, it will always be at a recruiting disadvantage to Michigan State".
Signed a relative of Yankguy.
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Precisely the type of comment that makes Meatchicken fans the MAGA Hats of college football.
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Speaking of the Portal trans, I see the BuckNut QB is jumping ship.
Will he play in the bowl game? I can see the coach saying good-bye today!
Smart move for the QB. Playing for ZeroState is the last place for a QB who
aspires to play in the top pro league. Just ask Haskins.
Or C J Stroud?Q.) How many players will sit out their bowl games?
Between sitting out and the portal a lot of teams are looking different.
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Playing for ZeroState is the last place for a QB who
aspires to play in the top pro league. Just ask Haskins.
As always Deej takes heartless hatred and stupidity to the lowest level.
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I hate the arrogance,.sense of superiority and feelings of entitlement of their fans and media supporters. 👍👏👌
Some people feel that way about the ZeroState! 😅😜😂🤫
I understand.
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Shaddap
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So, are we doing a Bowl prediction contest this year?
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"As long as Michigan requires it recruits to be functionally literate, it will always be at a recruiting disadvantage to Michigan State".
Signed a relative of Yankguy.
Lots of pathways towards defining functionally literate.
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So, are we doing a Bowl prediction contest this year?
Given the posters here this year I would have been competing against myself.
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Yeah, this place is has gone way downhill without me here.
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Yeah, this place is has gone way downhill without me here.
Every Garfunkel needs an Oates.
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Aight.
Just don't call me Alice.
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So, would you have chosen FSU over Bama?
And what's your prediction on the Georgia/FSU game?
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So, would you have chosen FSU over Bama?
And what's your prediction on the Georgia/FSU game?
Yes. Georgia, bigly.
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To expand slightly: the Committee has always justified some of its more controversial omissions by noting that a two loss team - like the Pennsylvania State University in 2016 - did not present a similar resume to a one loss team even when the former had won the head to head and league championship - like the Ohio State University in 2016. If you are consistent with that, how do you justify elevating a one loss Power Conference team over an unbeaten power conference team? You earn the playoff slot on the field, which is what Florida State did. They took care of all the business sent their way. Alabama did not. They should have been the 3rd seed, and the final slot should have.come down to Alabama, Texas or Georgia.
Do you think Georgia is one of the 4 best teams in the country? Because I do. But they did not have an argument for making the playoffs.
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I like the way you put that and it makes good sense on the surface. But it may not be quite that cut and dried.
So, I would add to it that both PSU and Ohio state faced similar competition as far as SOS. However, FSU's competition quality as compared to Alabama's was more than just 'somewhat' disparate. Florida State had the 55th hardest schedule in FBS this season, Alabama's was 5th hardest. And Florida State's opponents over all combined records are abysmal, maybe like .500 or something. Smelly. And Florida State is without their starting QB. You also feel that Georgia is going to beat Fla St "bigly". So why would they be placed in the CFP to get manhandled the same way as some of the OSU teams have or ND did against Bama some years back? Now, if FSU beats Georgia I'll be all wet and will have admit it.
Whether that changes the material conclusion of your post is up for debate. I would opine that it does and may need modification.
Sidenote: I think I'm on record and have always opined that SOS should be the strongest category of the markers for CPF voting. Otherwise you could have a 12-0 Bowling Green in the CPF.
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I like the way you put that and it makes good sense on the surface. But it may not be quite that cut and dried.
So, I would add to it that both PSU and Ohio state faced similar competition as far as SOS. However, FSU's competition quality as compared to Alabama's was more than just 'somewhat' disparate. Florida State had the 55th hardest schedule in FBS this season, Alabama's was 5th hardest. And Florida State's opponents over all combined records are abysmal, maybe like .500 or something. Smelly. And Florida State is without their starting QB. You also feel that Georgia is going to beat Fla St "bigly". So why would they be placed in the CFP to get manhandled the same way as some of the OSU teams have or ND did against Bama some years back? Now, if FSU beats Georgia I'll be all wet and will have admit it.
Whether that changes the material conclusion of your post is up for debate. I would opine that it does and may need modification.
Sidenote: I think I'm on record and have always opined that SOS should be the strongest category of the markers for CPF voting. Otherwise you could have a 12-0 Bowling Green in the CPF.
Well, TCU deserved to be in the Playoffs last year, and look at the grease spot that was all that was left of them after the Championship game (and thank you for not mentioning the 2015 Cotton Bowl...). I would agree that SoS is a big component of rankings, but wins are just as important. Otherwise, South Carolina could make an argument to be in the playoffs.
It is a moot argument after this year, but if you play a Power 5 schedule and win all your games, you should be in over a 1 loss team. I keep thinking that no other 1 loss team, and at least no 1 loss team from any other Conference would have made that leap.
And, Cardale Jones.
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Next year the endless debate is going to be between teams 12 and 13. Cannot wait!!
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I never did get around to finishing the lesser bowls. But here are my picks going forward from today.
Wednesday, Dec. 27
Military Bowl presented by GoBowling.com Tulane vs. Virginia Tech
I have been eating lunch and every time I bend over to take a bite, it feels like I am dropping food from my fork onto my leg. I look around, but I do not see the dropped food anywhere. I just realized what I am feeling is the badge dangling from my lanyard. I write this in lieu of having to say something about this game. For my friend Bill. VCU
Dukes Mayo Bowl North Carolina vs. West Virginia
I sense I have made fun of this Bowl Game Sponsor mash up before. Drake Maye is understandably opting out, and when you have difficulty winning with Maye, you maye have trouble winning without him. Morgantown School of Applied Technology
DIRECTV Holiday Bowl Louisville vs. Southern Cal
I will be watching this on the Dish Network. Fight the power! Williams sits this out to prepare for the draft, and another QB is hitting the portal. Which means a diminished SC offense and, well, their congenitally diminished defense. Yeah, the Ville offense looked awful against the FSU defense, but they will not be playing the FSU defense. Louisville
Tax Act Texas Bowl Oklahoma State vs. Texas A and M
Well, you know what they said about Jimbo Fisher He could take his talent and lose to yours, or he could take your talent and lose to his. The kids are auditioning for Elko, and Okie State was a bad team that got some breaks. TAMU
Thursday, Dec. 28
Wasabi Fenway Bowl SMU vs. Boston College
SMU joins the South Atlantic League next year. There is a Museum of the War in the Pacific in Fredricksburg, Texas*, which makes more sense than having a School in Dallas play in a Conference named for an Ocean that is 1000 miles away. Say what you want about Cal and Stanford, but at least there is water nearby. BCU
Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl Rutgers vs. Miami of Florida
Maybe it is the Midwesterner in me, but I remember when bowl games were a chance for boosters and the like to travel from whatever snow bound Hell they lived in to some place warm and fun. Granted, that assumes living in Piscataway rather than Miami, but for both teams, this seems like more something the Krampus left behind. No one will cry for dear old Rutgers. Miami
Pop Tarts Bowl NC State vs. Kansas State
All games feature an edible mascot, if you have the will to make it so. Anyway, this would be an easy pick if not for Howard portalling away. NC State
Valero Alamo Bowl Oklahoma vs. Arizona
Arizona is pretty much pulling into the parking space Oklahoma is pulling out of. Gabriel is another starter portalling. So, let me tell you a story bout a man named Jedd. No, have I got a Fisch story for you. No, I am still auditioning replacement jokes for my truly hilarious but no longer applicable Archangel Gabriel joke. To quote the doctor I see for my constipation, Bear Down. That joke gets a lot of play in Phoenix.
Friday, Dec. 29
Tax Slayer Gator Bowl Clemson vs. Kentucky
It kind of feels unkind to make a joke about their name after they have come down to earth the last three years, but this is the time of year for traditions, no matter how stupid. ClemSIN
Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie vs. Thanks for the Coach
Is there anyone left to play Quarterback for the Beavers? Yeah, we lost three of ours, but we are not playing for another nine months. I do not know who the Beaver third stringer is, but I do know OLotPT has a good enough defense to shut down that guy who has run the Scout Team for three years. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie
AutoZone Liberty Bowl Memphis vs. Iowa State
No clue. Iowa State
Cotton Bowl Classic the vs. Missouri
It appears Harrison is sitting the game out although there is nothing official and he has not actually announced for the draft, and McCord has transferred out, but a surprising number of top flight the players are playing, including their other projected first round WR, starting RB and their best corner. The offense just seemed a little not dynamic with McCord, so we will see what Brown can do them. the
Saturday, Dec. 30
Chik fil A Peach Bowl Penn State vs. Old Mississippi
I had the PSU as my Big Whatever champ pre season, but they let me down. I expect more from their offense then we got this year. But that is still a pretty good defense. Both teams have managed to lose to two of the best teams in the country. But, I am going down this road because I am happy to see cap back and want to reward him. the Pennsylvania State University
TransPerfect Music City Bowl Auburn vs. Maryland
Not just perfect, fabulous. Last I checked, Auburn had serious Quarterback issues. Meaning, their quarterback is a real Thorne in the side of any success they might have. Maryland
Capital One Orange Bowl Florida State vs. Georgia
Words cannot express how much I want Florida State to win this game. But they are down to their third string QB, and I cannot see the Georgia defense taking its collective foot off the collective pedal. Loss to Nick Satan notwithstanding, I still think they are the best team in college football this year. But to get in the playoffs you have to prove that on the field, unless you are Alabama. Georgia
Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl Wyoming vs. Toledo
I have as much interest in this game as I do in looking up whatever the Hell Barstool Sports actually is. None. Toledo
Monday, Jan. 1, 2024
ReliaQuest Bowl LSU vs. Wisconsin
Wisky is missing Allen, and one of their best defensive players just joined my beloved Spartans. LSU has had defensive issues, and Daniels is opting out, but I still think LSU has more going for it. Louisiana State University and Agriculture and Mechanical College
Cheez it Citrus Bowl Iowa vs Tennessee
Take the under. But you do have to, you know, actually score to win a football game. Tennessee
[i[Vrbo Fiesta Bowl[/i] Oregon vs. Liberty
Luck Fiberty. I hope the Ducks burn them like Jerry Falwell burns in Hell. Oregon
College Football Playoff Semifinals
Rose Bowl Game Presented by Prudential Meatchicken vs. Alabama
Alabama should not be here. I think despite the loss they are a better team than either Washington or Texas right now, but they should not be here. I note, by the way, the no one thinks Meatchicken should be shunted off to a non playoff bowl despite a strength of schedule that is roughly equivalent to Florida State. Anyway, I have become grudgingly impressed with Meatchicken this year, and as much as it pains me to say it, they look like the team to beat. Meatchicken
Allstate Sugar Bowl Washington vs. Texas
If the Committee could have figured an out around the head to head, Texas would be in the Orange Bowl, and FSU would be the three seed. But this is the game we have. It should be entertaining, as both teams can score, and score quickly. I think Texas has a better defense, so that is my data point. Texas
* Because it is the hometown of Admiral Chester Nimitz, that is why.
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I think McCord may - may - have been a better QB then Buckeye Nation gave him credit for being. And Mizzou's kicker has not missed many meals.
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What a fine night it is here in Daytona Beach this evening. NYS I do not Mizzyou in the least. :-)
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College football is being destroyed. At least as far as the Bowl season is concerned. A sad time indeed. All you have to do is look at Ohio State's humiliating rub out last night. I can't stand this team. But even a hater like me felt sorry for them as they were humbled, brought to their knees as the new rules gutted them. As were the Beaver's of Oregon State wiped out by the Irish simply because they had a deeper and stronger team depth-wise. I felt like puking as I watched that and in fact I had to turn it off. Couldn't watch it. Made me sick to my stomach. And now I read about 2 dozen Florida State players are opting out. Such a cowardly game this has become.
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Next year the endless debate is going to be between teams 12 and 13. Cannot wait!!
So what?
I am not of fan of a playoff beyond four teams but adding 8 teams means 12more teams get a better post season. 5-8 get playoff money and an extra home game
9-12 get playoff exposure and more money. 13-16 get better Bowl games.
This season the 12/13 controversy ( assuming there would be)was between LSU and Oklahoma.
The fan bases of each would have strong thoughts but nothing like between 4/5.
As fore SOS it is a mitigating factor if two teams are close. It can never be anything but.
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Doesn't really matter anymore. Even with 12 teams in, there will be massive amounts of desertions of players even in the CFP. It all becomes a lie. P on the whole fake thing. I see the headline 'ESPN is upset with the Fla ST mass defections' Yeah well, you helped create the sickness take responsibility for the virus you created. Call it collage COVID.
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Doesn't really matter anymore.
Does not matter to you.
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With Georgia manhandling FSU the Committee can take a victory lap.
And Toledo and Wyoming may generate millions in TV viewers.
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Doesn't really matter anymore.
Does not matter to you.
LOL. Yes it doesn't matter to me. Unless there is a serious effort to correct it by people in positions to make a change. It very well may dilute and even destroy the college football post-season.
And this in an opinion forum, I (or anyone for that matter)could have the same similar retort for all of your posts. Or anyone's posts. You do understand that right? "That's your opinion". A little more substance would better serve all of us here and maybe bring some people in here. In my "opinion we need to get some new blood in here. Although I admit I don't know how to accomplish that.
So peace dude.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/state-of-college-football-has-coaches-up-in-arms-it-needs-to-be-fixed-commentary/ar-AA1mfVwZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8628dbea97e64fbdbde6a62804ea64bc&ei=66 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/state-of-college-football-has-coaches-up-in-arms-it-needs-to-be-fixed-commentary/ar-AA1mfVwZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8628dbea97e64fbdbde6a62804ea64bc&ei=66)
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College football is being destroyed. At least as far as the Bowl season is concerned.
Never been more popular and profitable.
I notice you never showed in here until the Bowl Season was about to begin.
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The profits may be in jeopardy. As far as showing up here you're right. Is that somehow important? You seem to be wanting to pick a fight. Why?
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As far as showing up here you're right.
Thanks.
See you again in December.
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You're welcome. For what I don't know, but whatever floats your boat. lol
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Oh, and for not being here it wasn't for lack of trying. Stupid Windows 10/11 wouldn't let me in here. Some sort of dipstick unsecured certificate ban. I finally figured out the only way to get in here was to open the site up with old Windows Internet Explorer. I'm sure some others will school me as to other ways I could have gotten in here, but c'est la guerre.
I'm apologetic and quite sorry you missed me so much that it seems to have upset you. Interesting to see you cared about me and my absence to the point that you invest such a great effort in heralding my return. Very touching, I may even cry.
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duckduckgo.com
It's a free browser, and doesn't balk at the expired SSL certificate.
Cheers!
Liquidsilver could fix this in about two minutes, if anyone knows how to reach him. The contact info the web host gave me last year seems to be incorrect now.
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Thanks Oilcan. I used to have his email address but lost it when I retired.
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With Georgia manhandling FSU the Committee can take a victory lap.
And Toledo and Wyoming may generate millions in TV viewers.
I think the Committee looks stupid for leaving Georgia out if they were truly looking for the four best teams.
The FSU team was nothing like the FSU team would have been in the playoffs. No team of second stringers would hang with Georgia.
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In New Orleans, the Penix stands proud! Go Huskies!
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Two Big Ten, or Ten-ish, teams in the Championship, but one of them is the focus of evil in the modern world. Go Huskies!
Still picking Meatchicken to win it all. Fuck. Fuck them. I am going to have to avoid family reunions for at least three years. No aunts or uncles are allowed to die, and that is final.
Why is the portal opening before the bowl games are played? You cannot force Keon Coleman or Marvin Harrison Jr. to ignore economic self interest, but given the competition for portal players, the current system requires McCord and Rademacher to enter the portal before the bowls or lose out on transfer possibilities. Why not open the portal after the championship is played? It might avoid debacle like the Orange Bowl. I mean, yes Georgia was going to win big because they are the best team in the country, but still.
Nice that after many years with one or more semifinal blow outs (us) the final four team tourney gave us two very competitive and fun games, two years in a row. The other four NY6 games were either stultifying or not really competitive. Now to avoid the absolute shit show of last year's final game.
The new system should always get us at least the 8 or 9 best teams in the country in every year, so even with Liberty and upsets in conference tournaments, it should be pretty good.
Welcome back cap, stick around. RedDick is just ornery due to the improved economy under Biden, his party being in thrall to a felon huckster, and the growing realization that he faces the prospect of 12 more years of Biden, Harris and Harris, which should last through his shuffling of this earthly coil. Depending on whether the PROVEN LIAR covered the Chuck Hughes death 52 years ago as an adult reporter as he claimed on the NFL forum, or is 47 like he claimed in the political forums.
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Oh, and for not being here it wasn't for lack of trying. Stupid Windows 10/11 wouldn't let me in here. Some sort of dipstick unsecured certificate ban. I finally figured out the only way to get in here was to open the site up with old Windows Internet Explorer. I'm sure some others will school me as to other ways I could have gotten in here, but c'est la guerre.
I'm apologetic and quite sorry you missed me so much that it seems to have upset you. Interesting to see you cared about me and my absence to the point that you invest such a great effort in heralding my return. Very touching, I may even cry.
Welcome back, ElCapitan! Good to see your postings. Forget about that lonely sad-sack JumboNut. He has no one to play with here. Three losses to the AmazingGoBlue, his star QB leaving for greener pastures, and a pathetic bowl game (Looks like someone did not invest in that third-string QB!) has the fat turd
feeling so bad!
I agree with your assessment of the state of college football. I am cutting my cable connection and will no longer send a red cent to ESPN again!
And these collectives posing as non profit charities have got to be regulated and taxed.
On a football note: Bama s play selection with the game on the line, Harbaugh did not need to steal any signs, did he? !
Good to see you again Deej.
That last play call was the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen. The Michigan DL was stuffing everything up the middle on short yardage. Why that dumbfuck, whoever it was that made the call, did it is beyond my ken. He should be fired immediately.
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I think the plan was to draw the defense into thinking it was up the middle,.and bounce Milroe to the left, where the motion had pulled out the edge. But there was trouble with the snap (a phrase that takes me to my happy place*) and Meatchicken was through too quickly for the play to work. If not, anything other than a play designed to get Milroe into space was indeed idiotic.
* My happy place:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqv48MwEbaQ
I note.3.1 million viewers, of which I am at least the .1.
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Michigan wins it all! Greatest Team of the Century!
Indisputable and Undefeated, 15-0!
Harbaugh dynasty to run another decade!
In related news, SpaTans to downgrade their football program to a club sport
They can enjoy it for a.couple of months until the NCAA vacates all their wins and Harbaugh lams off to coach Chicago.
I am cautiously optimistic about what Smith is building. My caution will last until roughly August until my customary foolishly unreasonable expectations take over and I pick them to win it all again.
Clearly, Georgia should have been in the playoffs instead of Washington.
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Michigan wins it all! Greatest Team of the Century!
Indisputable and Undefeated, 15-0!
Harbaugh dynasty to run another decade!
In related news, SpaTans to downgrade their football program to a club sport
They can enjoy it for a.couple of months until the NCAA vacates all their wins and Harbaugh lams off to coach Chicago.
I am cautiously optimistic about what Smith is building. My caution will last until roughly August until my customary foolishly unreasonable expectations take over and I pick them to win it all again.
Clearly, Georgia should have been in the playoffs instead of Washington.
Well, on the bright side The SEC and Biggest Whatever will have a lock on three spots in an expanded field, which will go to 16 as sure as the sun rose yesterday.
Question? Doesnot that guarantee ZeroState will always be in!
Doesnot that mean a 10-2 Notre Dame has a confirmed reservation?
The next step in the professionalization of college football will be the number of
college coaches being fired every year. So much money slushing around that championships need to be won NOW!
Thank God I have beaten my addiction and no longer watch. Cable cut yesterday and now I can spend more time beating Trumpism to a pulp!
Not another dime to the idiots at ESPN or FOX!
the is facing more top level competition with Oregon coming in. Also USC, Washington. Less room for error.
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Nick Saban is retiring.
What a record he had that will never be topped.
It is all due the training he got at Toledo, Ohio State, and Michigan State.
Happy retirement Nick!
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Vile traitor.
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Nick? Uh. Well..... WOW.
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the has hired Bjorn as its new AD. Swan dress jokes are too obvious, so I will just post this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALkk6UlfjgU
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Toledo Head Coach Jason Candle touted as OC under Ryan Day.
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Harbaugh is apparently seeking a new contract from Meatchicken that prevents them from firing him for cause based on current NCAA investigations into the football program. Wonder what he knows. Enjoy the title while they let you keep it, Meatchicken!
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Toledo Head Coach Jason Candle touted as OC under Ryan Day.
Bill O'Brian was Toledo's Head Coach?
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Has the dust settled yet? Are we done with the major team coaching, draft calls and portal reshuffling? I guess Harbaugh is still in play, but if he leaves I think Sherrone Moore takes over, and I am not sure that makes a huge difference. At the very least, unlike all of the other moves, it should only affect one team. I do not recall an off-season with so much change in the post championship weeks as this one. OK, granted, Satan does not retire every year, but there have been some reshaping portal jumps and draft decisions. To be honest, I have been all over the board on several teams.
To start, some teams not in my Top 11:
Arizona
I had them winning the Pure Prairie League before Washington went Fisching for a new coach. Their new hire is kind of, well, not exciting and it remains to be seen whether he can recapture the magic of last year s team. Which is the problem with being an Arizona, moderate sized fish swimming with sharks. Your coach is ripe for poaching, and then who do you get? By the time the carousel hit Tucson, all the horses were taken. That fact is why my beloved Spartans overpaid for Tucker after one successful year. Anyway, they still have Fifita and most of their O Line, so they are still a threat.
Wahington
I did not have them in my Top 11 before DeBoer trekked off to where the tusks are looser, and they are not there now with Fisch. Fisch did a great job with the turn around in Arizona, but you cannot make bricks without straw. They lost way too much for me to pick them as a top team in the Big However Many They Have This Year. The internal replacement for Pennix followed DeBoer to Alabama, although the AU backup followed Fisch into Washington. And I have to say this, Will Rogers reentered the portal after Fisch was hired, meaning Will Rogers finally met a coach he didnt like.
ClemSIN
If you do not get ahead of history it will crush you. SWINEy does not like the Portal. Fine, a lot of people do not, and even I have reservations about how it operates, and I have always been in favor of freer player movement in CFB. But if you are coaching in this moment in history, you either get busy living or you get busy dying. ClemSIN is dying.
University of California*
Maybe Lincoln Riley was not the right coach after all. Two years with Caleb Williams and SC was never really a playoff threat. Now, their offense appears a little Mossy, and the Defense has not stopped anyone for two years. They look to be about the fifth best team in the Big However Many They Have This Year.
Missouri
They had a good year last year, but I still look on them as a team that had a good year rather than a program being built. The workhorse back that they rode to the win is gone. See, Michigan State 2022 for further information. Regression likely.
The Pennsylvania State University
They disappointed me far too much last year to get back on that horse. Show me some progression from Allar and I will think about it. He was a bust against any team with a pulse last year.
Texas
In a vacuum, I think Texas should be as good as they were last year, really they have the most important pieces returning, including almost all of their offensive line and Ewers. But they are not playing in a vacuum, there are playing in God apostrophe s Conference now and that automatically ups the level of their in conference schedule. While Ewers returned, the Wide Receiver corps lost a lot, although one of the many Alabama refugees will help immediately. They also need to replace the middle of the D line. And frankly I remain skeptical of the Texas is Back! narrative until they prove it over a couple of years.
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Too Early Top 11:
11. Florida State University
Someone is winning the South Atlantic League and punching their ticket to the first 12 team dance, might as well be FSU, at least for as long as SWINEy continues to deny the reality of the modern CFB world in ClemSIN. FSU s last game leaves a bad taste, true, but they have talent returning, and they brought DJ Unnecessary Number of Vowels to help their offense. The thing is, DJU has fallen short of his potential in the South Atlantic League Before. Still, again, SOMEONE is winning the conference, and FSU has a pretty cake schedule, particularly if Florida continues to underperform.
10. Meatchicken
There is a chance for a huge implosion this year. They are actually playing good teams, and a lot of them, in addition to the. They have two other CFP teams, Texas and Washington, as well as Oregon. They also have USC, and of course a guaranteed loss on October 26. The good news for them is they only have Washington and the on the road. Still, they lost their top running back, wide receivers and their Quarterback with no experienced replacements waiting for most of them and no significant transfer portal adds. And, who knows but that the annual Harbaugh to the pros talk will have legs? Anyway, I still think that they can ride their defense a very long way, but it is a tough schedule and they are losing a lot offensively.
9. Utah
They are probably the best of the new Pure prairie League programs coming in, traditionally. They had significant injuries last season and under performed, primarily because Rising had his usual season ending injury before the season got underway, rather than just before the bowl game. And while Rising is coming back, along with a couple of other players who missed all or most of the season, the fact that two backups entered the portal is significant giving his injury history. Still, it is a solid program and Rising cannot get hurt every year. Can he?
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8. Alabama
Well I honestly was not expecting Satan retiring. DeBoer is a good coach, and he will have most, well many that was a huge portal list, of Satan s recruited players returning. But there are serious concerns, including massive losses in the defense, particularly the secondary and the inconsistency of Milroe, exacerbated by the loss of Sayin as a potential replacement. Yes, DeBoer brought a lot with him. Yes, they have options. They are Alabama, they always have options. But that schedule is tough, with a trip to Wisky, LSU and Oklahoma, plus an early season match with Georgia. Their talent and DeBoer coaching should keep them viable as a contender, but two or three losses is not out of the question.
7. Oklahoma State
With Texas and Oklahoma moving out, Okie State is now the best legacy program left, and they were sort of the Michigan State of the conference, good enough to occasionally challenge but not good enough to be a consistent threat to the elite teams. But now they look almost like the top remaining dog. They return their entire offensive line and key skill position players on offense. In a league that is going to struggle to identify itself, with fully half its teams joining in the last two years, that should be enough.
6. Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie
I did not have them this far up at first, but I kept moving teams down past them. Anyway, the did a decent job in replacing Sam Hartman, Sam Hartman with Elmore Leonard. Note, may not be actual first name. A couple of promising receivers and O Linemen in from the portal as well, which is probably their biggest need outside of QB. Defensively, they did get some starters to forego the pros for another year. Their schedule looks tough on paper, but a lot of those teams, like TAMU and USC and Louisville, enter into the season with a ton of questions. Their toughest game is likely to be FSU, at home. They are primed for a maybe one loss season.
5. Old Mississippi
Three of their portal adds were Yam Banks, Diego Pounds and Princely Unanmielen, so they win the portal on names alone. PU and Walter Nolen fill a big need defensively. They need help in the secondary but their asshole coach brought in a lot of God apostrophe s Conference ready talent to fill in those gaps as well. Offensively, Dart will be darting, and two of their top receivers are returning, joined by portaller Juice Wells. Really, does Kiffin recruit based on name? If so, that is a Hairy approved path. I am always skeptical of the hype of Missississippippi teams, but they do look real.
4. Oregon
They are losing Nix. Past Hairy would consider that a positive, but there is no doubt Nix played surprisingly to me well these last two years. Still, I think there is an element of system success for Oregon these days, and Gabriel is a proven QB, with Moore waiting for his chance. They are losing a lot in the secondary, but otherwise they should have a decent defense. Oregon, the and Meatchicken play a round robin which is likely to be the equivalent of a playoff play in.
3. the Ohio State University
I toyed with them out of the Top 11 for a while, but no team has had a more surprising off season for me, except perhaps Alabama. When I started drafting this, I fully expected Egbuka, Henderson, Burke Tuimoloau and Sawyer to all go to the pros, along with several other players. Instead, the only significant loss was Harrison. Granted, Harrison is a huge loss, but the is lousy with wide receiver prospects including consensus Number 1 recruit Jeremiah Smith. The managed to retain more of their pro eligible talent than many of the other top level teams. I guess that is what comes from not meeting your goals. And then the portal hits started coming. Just Sayin they did well on that score, poaching a solid if unspectacular starting QB, one of God apostrophe s Conferences top running back and three Alabaman refugees. Also worth noting that their schedule takes a decidedly Meatchicken approach to the OOC. Still, that horrible offensive egg laid in the Cotton Bowl was not just on the QB, and the weaknesses it revealed, like the O Line, did not go away.
2. Georgia
They were the best team in the country last year, and I expect them to be the best team in the country this year. Unlike the last couple of years, they are not replacing massive amounts of 1st round defensive talent. They do lose their two best pass catchers, but return Beck and picked up Baby Etienne to bolster the run game. And while the defense is not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven, that which they are they are, and that is really good.
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1. EVENTUAL 2024-2025 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE
I think we will be fine. After the initial rush to the portal following Smith s hire, many of the more important players have returned home. Our pathetic QB play should be improved (could hardly get worse without snapping the ball into a.vacuum) with Chiles coming in to give us a dual threat for the first time since, well, maybe Charlie Baggett? Smith has also brought in some O Line talent
I do not think we were quite as bad as our record, despite getting blown out five times. Anyway, we have a nightmare stretch of Ohio State, Oregon and Michigan in four games, and the team in the middle is Iowa. I will have more later.
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Too Early Picks for the CFB Playoffs:
To start, the current set up gives six Conference Champions automatic entries and six at large teams, and the Top 4 Teams byes. I think that format gets tweaked, since it is based on five power conferences, and the PAWCP sleeps with the fishes. I think it unlikely they go with two non-power conference teams, which this year would have put the AAC Champion, 24th rated SMU, in ahead of the 11th rated team, Old Mississippi. I am going to give an alternate in case we get only five conference champions. This will not follow my top 11, above, but I do assume that while the conference champion gets in, that does not mean they automatically get a top 4 seed. So, my Top 4 seeds are
1. Michigan State (Big However Many Is It This Year Champ)
2. Georgia (God Apostrophe s Conference Champ)
3. The (Reality Based Big However Many Is It This Year Champ)
4. Old Mississippi State (At Large Because of COURSE a second God apostrophe s Conference team is getting a top seed)
5. Oklahoma State (Pure Prairie League Champ)
The rest of the seedings:
12. Boise State (6/6) or Tulane (5/7) v. 5. Oregon
11. Tulane (6/6) or Texas (5/7) v. 6. OLotPT
10. Florida State v. 7. Alabama
9. Utah v. 8 Meatchicken
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Toledo Head Coach Jason Candle touted as OC under Ryan Day.
Bill O'Brian was Toledo's Head Coach?
Yes
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Will there be even one undefeated team in the CFP this season ? I'm thinkin the answer has a more than just a good chance of being no.
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Will there be even one undefeated team in the CFP this season ? I'm thinkin the answer has a more than just a good chance of being no.
Other than EVENTUAL 2024-2025 NATIONAL CHAMPION MICHIGAN STATE? No.
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I see long time Ohio State OC Bill O'Brian has left to be the head coach at Boston College.
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I see long time Ohio State OC Bill O'Brian has left to be the head coach at Boston College.
Yes,his home town. He also has a young son with severe health problems that returning there appealing.
The job opened up just after he accepted tOSU offer.
Chip Kelley was hired yesterday by Ryan Day to be the OC and play caller for the Buckeyes.
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Got a son who didn't make the NFL cut?
College NFL football career over, football career over?
Got a daughter interested in playing football, NRL rugby league football?
NRL is coming to town, in Vegas, early March 2024, holding a talent combine in the week before the double header NRL rugby league matches at Allegiant Stadium on March2.
nrl.com/vegas
click on
'Vegas Combine;
Introducing the Vegas Talent Combine
This coming March the NRL will launch the first official NRL Talent Combine in Las Vegas, Nevada for 25 female and 25 male athletes.
An event where you will be able to showcase your skills in front of NRL officials for an opportunity of a life-time in Australia.
You could be one of four athletes selected to travel to Australia to train with elite teams to try and earn a professional contract in the NRL or NRLW.
NRLW - Womens comp.
The NRL premiership matches [not exhibition games, these are round 1 of the season in Australia]...nrl.com
The big night, March 2...televised on Fox Sports 1
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Nick Saban is retiring.
What a record he had that will never be topped.
It is all due the training he got at Toledo, Ohio State, and Michigan State.
Happy retirement Nick!
As always you say stuff that proves you're dumber than a box of rocks.