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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 08, 2019, 09:56:51 PM »
Young plus Dunn for Randle.  Saves 5 mil for 20-21  Opens playing time for VERNON CAREY.  Maybe we get a #2 tossed in.



Thats what I get for sitting in for Diddley

You have long championed Payton, so I have it in my power to forgive you. 

Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 08, 2019, 08:30:29 PM »
Young plus Dunn for Randle.  Saves 5 mil for 20-21  Opens playing time for VERNON CAREY.  Maybe we get a #2 tossed in.


Basketball / Trader Vics [Be Careful What You Wish For]
« on: December 08, 2019, 06:54:16 PM »
Otto Porter

$27,250,576   $28,489,239

Thaddeus Young   

$12,900,000   $13,545,000   $14,190,000

Lauri Markkanen   

$5,300,400   $6,731,508   $9,026,952

Lauri an intriguing stretch-foud seven footer, only 22, and I reckon some of the Trader Vics on this forum view him as, I don't know, Porzingis Light?  Offensively, okay...defensively?  Mmmmmm?  Still, why would the Bulls want to bail on him? 

When healthy the past two seasons, for 29-32 minutes, a 43%/36% 2 & 3-Pt shooter, 7.5 and 9.0 boards and a very good FT shooter 84 & 87%, getting to the line 166 & 195 times. 

This season he is nursing an oblique injury and in 29 minutes his FG% is 37.1/31.4, rebounding down some, assists up. 

Otto Porter?  Just turned 26. 

Currently nursing a bad bone bruise in his foot.  In 15 games for the Bulls last season, his FT% was 90.6% and a 3-Pt % of 48%.  Nice.

In 9 games/25 minutes this season, 41.4-40.0% and FT shooting down 90.6 to 75%. 

Another nice player. 

But seriously?  Two seasons at 27-28 million NICE? 

Because we are disappointed with Randle and Portis, and Knox in only his second season, is coming along too slowly for some, so, off he goes to trail the ghost of Trevor Ariza and Rod Strickland and all of those young Knicks we gave up on too damn soon. 

Thaddeus Young?

Currently shooting 40.0/33.3 with a resounding FT% of 58.6%. 

AND with Courtney Lee guaranteed money through 2022. 

"Moving Randle is addition by subtraction. Who we get back is only somewhat relevant."


Well, hey, since you put it THAT WAY, who am I to argue with such sublime, forward-thinking logic.

Not to give, Julius a hall pass on 16.8/8.6/3.4 stat line, sullied as it is by 43.6/23.7 FG% and a grim 66.2 FT%.

STILL, if the idea is to BAIL on our contractual commitment, and find Julius a better fit somewhere out West, taking back long term contracts seems, in light of how consciously we leveraged cap space in the KP Deal, oh, I don't know...


Persevere. Trader Vics, persevere, but you might want to think things through a tad more

Or, as FACIL, so sensibly puts it:

If someone comes to us with a knockdown offer on the 15th, we should listen and pull the trigger on a really good deal. Since nobody has maintained or improved their value besides Morris, it would probably be an offer for him. Otherwise we should wait and see if Miller can install a reasonable game plan and find out how players look in a less chaotic setting.

Or as the learned FWK sums things up, NOT HAPPENING. 

To which I would add, let's see what Julius and Portis and Knox and RJ and company look like between now and the new year with a new coach and ELFRID PAYTON manning the rudder. 

At such times, I am comforted that Scott Perry, his decision making skills such as they are [cough], is in survival mode and in fear for his mortal soul, and thus, unlikely to follow through on any of these brilliantly crafted deals.

Basketball / Thadeus Young
« on: December 08, 2019, 03:04:01 PM »
Born: June 21, 1988 (age 31 years), New Orleans, LA

Height: 6′ 8″

Current team: Chicago Bulls (#21 / Small forward, Power forward)

And this advances our culture moving forward how, exactly? 

Basketball / 104-103
« on: December 07, 2019, 09:51:21 PM »

PS: Elfrid Payton

Basketball / Well Now...
« on: December 05, 2019, 09:56:28 PM »
Says you, your smugness.  Trier at least knows how to create some offense. 

Defense?  Now there's an original idea, like Ellington is such a stopper.  Hell, Jimmer for that matter. 

Not like we couldn't use some offense. 

Knicks shoot 9-34 from trey [26.5%] and 15-23 from the FT line [65.2%], and 34-83 total [40.2%].

Nuggets pretty woeful from the FT line, but 21-39 [55.3%] from trey and 49-87 total [56.3%]. 

Have been playing competitively in the first quarter, but when the first couple of punches land, and teams start raining threes, you can just see the fight drain the fuck out of them. 

Ah me...

What good is firing anyone at this time going to do? 

Want to clean house? 

April, with some sort of plan in mind perhaps, but is Dolan going to essay a plan for new VP, GM and Coach? 

Is that going to enhance our offensive coherence or inculcate three point defense? 


Basketball / What The Fuck
« on: December 05, 2019, 09:31:19 PM »
We are behind by 30-35-40. 

Why the fuck is Ellington out there, in lieu of Ziggy and Trier. 

Wassup with that, Fizz? 

And just like that, ANOTHER FUCKING THREE....Denver shooting 18-of-30 from trey. 

How is that possible? 

What the fuck? 

Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 04, 2019, 02:51:36 PM »
Knicks are flipping with Charlotte for second round right?

Phil traded ALL of OUR second round picks away.  None of our own until 2022.

Charlotte will convey their 2020 & 2021 second round picks in exchange for Hernan-Gomez. 

Dallas will convey their 2021 #1, and 2023 (with protections) from the KP trade. 

Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 02, 2019, 11:21:51 PM »
A bright spot with Kadeem Allan moving the ball around?

(maybe I'm reaching)

I thought the same thing.

Broke down the D.



Hit his threes.

PS: What was really startling to me, was how many times Shooters the likes of Ellington, let alone Barrett and Brazdeikis, not only missed their shots, but missed the f****** rim entirely. Not unlike the epic free throw shooting shit show.  Did I say wow?

Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 02, 2019, 09:54:45 PM »
Could be the ugliest loss of the season tonight

This is our college football version of Rutgers playing Ohio State


Washington Generals

Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 02, 2019, 09:53:12 PM »
Could be the ugliest loss of the season tonight

This is our college football version of Rutgers playing Ohio State


Basketball / Sigh
« on: December 02, 2019, 06:37:21 PM »
Key part of the Nyets back court rotation, with a very reasonable contract. 

Too much time on your hands. 


Basketball / BoD
« on: December 02, 2019, 03:05:44 PM »
Why in God's name would the Nyets contemplate trading SD to the Knicks, let alone to ANYONE?

He is a fixture, a fundamental cog in their machine. 

With Kyrie being as fragile as he is, force of nature when healthy though he is, SD's game and versatility as a facilitator and scorer takes on more import. 

Basketball / NOT A SHIT SHOW [Re: Nice Game]
« on: November 30, 2019, 02:06:09 AM »
Hit a few free throws and it's ours.

Fiz finally has the rotation down. Probably our best one.

Concerned about Knox getting squeezed out? Why? He's a huge liability on a basketball court. He'll get some minutes in as we can afford to give them to him and keep on working on all the stuff he needs to work on in practice. Odds of him every becoming an actual basketball player still fairly small, but I'm rooting for him.

Point guard coming along just fine, too. 14 shots. Nice forays into the lane.
Nice pnr w/mitch. Nice screen for Randle. Nice steady progress in 38th start and clearly getting coach's confidence. Good stuff. All good.

*** now that our "development year" coach has got the "which player" thing down, maybe he can start working on stuff like plays & having the right player do the right thing, like get Morris set up for some threes in the second half cause he's just knocking them down..

Why thank you, Dawg, for a reasoned and trenchant analysis. 

Surely dispiriting to lose, but showed some flashes of a rational rotation, offensive cohesion and defensive tenacity. 

RJ post game talked about team relaxing, and well...mmmmm, yes and no. 

Philly is a top tier team in the East, and even without Al and Josh, pretty fucking formidable. 

Even so, more a factor of a drop off from starters to subs...

And, oh yeah, a startling disparity in free thrown attempts and makes. 

Philly was 32-40 [80%]

New York was 19-33 [56.7%]

Considering that on treys?

Philly was 7-26

New York was 8-20

We were shooting the trey better and defending the trey better. 

And even shooting 57.6% from the FT line, we were in this game right down to the end, and that poor execution on that messed up inbound play coming out of a time out. 

So, no moral victories, but not a shit show. 

Boston beckons on Sunday at home, while the Bucks on the road Monday. 

We played them tough last time as well, and at crunch time, Kemba and Jayson were decisive. 

NOT A SHIT SHOW.  This is what passes for hope in James Dolan's Alternate Reality Universe. 


PS: Yes, by all means FIZZ getting Morris the ball more effectively in the second half, but let us give Philly SOME CREDIT for paying closer attention to our most dangerous shooter. 

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