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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 10:30:14 AM »
No one on the Left has proposed eliminating concrete as a building material.
Then you ignore the Green New Deal.

GND, which is a range of proposals to reduce carbon emissions, does not propose the cessation of all construction. 


 LOL. Without fossil fuels we canít manufacture cement under current techniques. Now  MIT is on the verge of a process that eliminates carbon in the current process. We have other proven alternatives to fossil fuels like Nuclear and other areas to explore such as capture and store. Yet none of the democrat candidates will endorse anything beyond severely curtailing carbon.

So modify your techniques and be part of a cleaner energy future.   That's what our children and grandchildren want, and why wouldn't they?   Oceans rising, permafrost is melting, heat waves are devastating, coral reefs are dead or dying, etc. and you're twiddling your thumbs.  MIT is working on an option for you, science is working on other clean energy technologies, energy storage tech and distributed networks is advancing the prospects of intermittent energy sources, and so on.   Why not get behind that and stop bellyaching about partisan politics? 

Capture and store is a pipe dream, incredibly expensive and doomed to be not competitive as clean energy technologies improve and scale up.  Coal plants are already too expensive to build, which is why NG plants are replacing old ones and are seen as a better bridge fuel. 

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 09:31:21 AM »
Harris is a bitch - Warren - not

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/19/politics/kamala-harris-campaign-2020/index.html

Nowhere in that article is any indication that Harris is a bitch.   Your crude insult, however, suggested you might be Donnie's bitch.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 09:26:15 AM »
No one on the Left has proposed eliminating concrete as a building material.
Then you ignore the Green New Deal.

GND, which is a range of proposals to reduce carbon emissions, does not propose the cessation of all construction.   What is being discussed is what you yourself were looking at:  lower emissions methods of baking concrete, and so on.  Enough with the strawman argument.   If other foundation and road and masonry materials, with a lower carbon emission, start shouldering their way in and competing with traditional concrete, that's something you could invest in, instead of making everything political and partisan.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 09:14:27 AM »
"Just no excellence among you." Does anybody understand the language Kid posts in?

heh.

I had a giggle over a Trumpist setting the bar at "excellence." 

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 07:39:43 PM »
No one on the Left has proposed eliminating concrete as a building material.   Or sheetrock (also a high-carbon production at the moment).   They will always have some carbon footprint, as does almost anything....concrete involves dredging and transport of huge amounts of sand, with large diesel engines.  Sheetrock involves gypsum mining.   It's not necessarily a Left/Right issue.  Everyone can see the merit in (1) alternative low-carbon production methods, especially in the "bake," and (2) exploring alternative materials that offer comparable structural quality (a state I used to live in reduced its highway concrete by using a composite made partly from recycled rubber tires, and found those roads actually last longer).    Further down the road (ha!), a society that nurtures innovation will have the diesel machines that harvest sand and gypsum replaced with machines run on fuel cells or algae-generated biofuel or something we haven't thought of.*  Without the government offering incentives to Redward's factory, making these changes will be a lot harder.   


* and won't think of, if we don't hone our young minds with excellent and affordable public education.   


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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 05:20:16 PM »
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I'll wait.  Just a page number is fine.   dumdedumdedumdedumde.....
Pages 170-181

Woops.   Nope, those pages show all those candidate positions were asked as separate questions.   Your aggregate question is fake.   Some of the questions also get different responses when the context is changed.   A majority favors higher taxes....on the extremely wealthy.   Or higher taxes....if the increase is offset by eliminating high insurance premiums.   That's why  differently phrased questions on a subject yield different answers.   OK, sardine hour is over.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 04:58:45 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/759761114/with-abortion-restrictions-on-the-rise-some-women-induce-their-own

When Arlen found out she was pregnant this year, she was still finishing college and knew she didn't want a child.
...


Well...

was she on birth control?
Did they use a condom?
Was this an immaculate conception?

Or has the women's rights movement given the go ahead to just sleep around aimlessly without regards to consequence?

How is any of that the government's business?   Sounds like you want to replace basic civil rights with  a committee on moral judgment.  Why do you go to the doctor,  Kid?   Did you sit on the couch in the evenings and just wander around aimlessly from one fast food place to another without regards to consequences?  Mmm?   Did you make a mistake somewhere back there?   Let's have the government pass judgmemt on you!

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 04:52:04 PM »
EVERYONE:  I would factcheck Red's claim that the quoted text he cited today is actually from a Harris Poll questionnaire.  I can find it nowhere in the PDF that he posted, nor in other online sources on the August 2019 Harvard/Harris Poll. 

If he or someone else cannot produce the link which shows the poll question actually phrased this way, then I would ask Kid to acknowledge that it would be legitimate to dismiss that post.

What does it have to do with me?

Your response to Redward's alleged poll quote:

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   Heh

Good stuff, RSW 




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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 01:50:19 PM »
I went so far as to google the quoted question.  It's nowhere, not at Harris, not in the MSM, though the phrasing was quite similar to that used by a writer in the Conservative Review.  So, yes, it could be an interesting way to do a psychological study on messaging, but if so, I can't find any evidence such a poll was conducted.

Actual polls, for one thing, would separate out those long sentences into several, each asking a distinct question.  For example, one could ask in a poll if one believed in standing up to China and Iran.  I would estimate at least 80% of any polling sample would answer "yes" to that one.  As would pretty much any candidate for national office in the United States. 

I think Needs covered this pretty well, so I won't go on.


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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 01:38:27 PM »
I dont use the Fox website often

You could even find the story there if you did.

The guy who posted "You really should expand your sourcework" should get his news from something other than the Fox News Cable channel.

Where do you suggest?

apnews.com

www.theguardian.com

reuters.com

npr.org

thehill.com


No paywalls for any of these.


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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 01:32:57 PM »
EVERYONE:  I would factcheck Red's claim that the quoted text he cited today is actually from a Harris Poll questionnaire.  I can find it nowhere in the PDF that he posted, nor in other online sources on the August 2019 Harvard/Harris Poll. 

If he or someone else cannot produce the link which shows the poll question actually phrased this way, then I would ask Kid to acknowledge that it would be legitimate to dismiss that post.




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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 01:23:33 PM »
A recent Harvard/Harris Poll of 2,531 registered voters used no names in presenting two agendas by potential candidates for President.
Hereís the text:


Which candidate are you more likely to vote for:

1.
ďA presidential candidate who stands for the green new deal on climate change, Medicare for all, free college tuition, opening our borders to many more immigrants and raising taxes to pay for these programs.

Or Ö

2.
A presidential candidate who stands for lower taxes and reduced government regulations, strengthening our military, strengthening our border to reduce illegal immigrants, standing up more to China and Iran and seeking better trade deals for the US. 


The result: 61% say theyíd vote for Agenda 2 including 65% of Independents and every other age group except those aged18-34 who split 50-50.


https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/HHP_August2019_Crosstabs_RegisteredVoters.pdf


Just curious, in the PDF file you posted, where is that particular question phrasing?  Because the phrasing sounds like a crude push-poll, rather than anything remotely scientific.

I'll wait.  Just a page number is fine.   dumdedumdedumdedumde.....

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 01:21:41 PM »
Sorry to interrupt, but I thought this was interesting.
A bunch of well-presented charts showing which states require what to get an abortion.  I knew restrictions were being put in place, but wasn't aware that more than half of the states (26) require a counseling session to try to discourage an abortion. 

Also 27 states require a waiting period.  8 of them longer than 24 hours:
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Utah, South Dakota, Oklahoma, North Carolina and Missouri have the longest wait times before one can undergo the procedure, clocking in at 72 hours.


This just details what steps are required in various states.  Not getting into new intentionally-difficult-to-achieve laws such as requiring doctors to have admitting privileges at a hospital, requiring basically a full emergency room setup and such, which has forced clinics to close in some, generally southern, states.
Or the recent fetal heartbeat laws which are intended to bring a challenge to Roe before the Supreme Court.  A heartbeat can usually be detected within 6 weeks, before most women would know they are pregnant, thus such a timeline rule would essentially ban or prevent most abortions entirely.

America is, demographically, a liberal secular democracy which is being hijacked and run by a conservative minority in the thrall of billionaires, bigots, misogynists and evangelical Xtians (considerable overlap in those categories).  Due to the average populations of red states, they have disproportionate control in the Senate, and they are skilled at buying votes in other chambers, both state and federal.  We could really use folks like you coming back to the States, rolling up your sleeves, and getting involved in trying to save some shred of democracy. 

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 19, 2019, 09:50:44 AM »
Trump just canít/wonít protect the nationís secrets. Canít keep his trap shut and pulls stupid shit out of his ass to impress the foreign dictator club members.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trumps-communications-with-foreign-leader-are-part-of-whistleblower-complaint-that-spurred-standoff-between-spy-chief-and-congress-former-officials-say/2019/09/18/df651aa2-da60-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html

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  But acting director of national intelligence Joseph Maguire has refused to share details about Trumpís alleged transgression with lawmakers, touching off a legal and political dispute that has spilled into public view and prompted speculation that the spy chief is improperly protecting the president... 

Ya think?   The clue in such matters is, as always, the word "acting" in the official's title.   Nothing like larding your administration with unvetted lackeys!

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